Lots of bad news, mostly Cardinals-related
Well, that was awful, and to top it off I don't have the time to do it full justice—I've got places to be, as it were. (Terrible food! And such small portions!) So let's just get the awfulness out in the open:
- The Cardinals lost to the Pirates, of all teams. The Pirates are the team they're supposed to beat! And they tacked on one of those late-innings non-rallies at the end, which are just killing me. When the team's winning—when it doesn't seem to fall behind in the first inning as part of a handicap agreement—Felipe Lopez bouncing a ball off the foul pole for a solo home run feels predestined and kind of cruel to the other team. When it's not winning, it's just a little sad.
- Jake Westbrook lost to the Pirates! Westbrook has been just-fine, but the Cardinals haven't taken advantage of it at all, which means that we'll be hearing that one-win-in-five-starts thing until—well, at least until his next start. Last night was the first game for which blame can really be lain at Westbrook's doorstep; for the most part what frustrates us should be that the Cardinals had previously lost three of the four quality starts he'd thrown. By Game Score, his first two starts as a Cardinal were tied as his third-best performances of the season; normally, that means the trade is a success.
- The Reds, of course, won a game that could well have been a heartbreaking loss. I'm not sure I've ever seen a Fangraphs chart quite like this before:
- Joey Votto narrowed Albert Pujols's lead in two categories of the triple crown and widened his lead in the other. Hey—if the Cardinals are going to miss the playoffs I needed that!
- As if things weren't bad enough already, I learned in the overflow thread that a New World Order will detonate a bomb in South Korea next month! Come on! Silver lining: mysterui didn't post a direct link to 4chan. Cloud lining: because the New World Order forced the thread off of 4chan!
All things considered, it was a bad night to be a fan of either the Cardinals or the Old World Order. The problem isn't whether or not the Cardinals can make up 3.5 games in the next month right now—it's that they're 3-7 in their last 10 games. They need to prove they can play well again, and regularly, before we worry about whether there's enough time to catch Cincinnati.
This weekend the Cardinals get four games against the Washington Nationals, and the Cardinals should—prescriptive should, not descriptive should—win all of them. 3.5 games back still feels doable; for some reason four seems like a particularly strong psychological barrier. The Cardinals descriptive-ought to have an easier time with Jordan Zimmermann (just back from elbow surgery), Scott Olsen, Livan Hernandez, and John Lannan than they could with four members of most any other rotation, so the schedule won't be the problem if they can't gain ground here.
Er, wait—The Reds, after a day off, get Tom Gorzelanny, Randy Wells, Casey Coleman (winner of the Baseball Mogul Simulated Name soundalike award for 2010), and Randy Wolf. So it looks like it'll come down to who's best able to beat up on mediocre pitchers, a gentleman's duel if ever I've heard of one.
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The Reptilians are probably behind the plot to create the new world order. The reason they want to destroy the old world order is so they can continue to effectively educates us stupid and discredit true physical truth of Cubic Time, four simultaneous days occurring in Earth Sphere, where man is cubic being existing in 4 corner time are you Jewish???
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
A rec for my favoritest crackpot of all time
“-1 x -1 = +1 is stupid and evil.”
by Andyfantastic on Aug 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
JASON MOTTE NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What's wrong? Is he progressing too nicely or something?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
this guy... "Dan Moore" yeah right that can't be real
says
http://stlouis.sbnation.com/2010/8/26/1651400/jason-motte-roughed-up-memphis-rehab-start
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
meanwhile, arise Joey Bombardiers
he’s on a hot streak.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I've pretty much given up on seeing Joe Mather again this year.
I dunno. His good stretches don’t really scream “back to normal” to me.
We’ve now combined for the first six comments in the thread today. What kind of losers post the first six comments before 7:30 )central time)?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
With a parenthesis fail to boot
Seven comments!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I am not forming Voltron with you.
just so you know.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
just so you guys don't feel so alone
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I think Yadi2Second said he definitely wants to form Voltron. All the kids at school will think we're the coolest.
Which lion do you want to be?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm out of the loop on this one
You guys just seemed lonely in here all buy yourself. And if that wasn’t bad enough, now you have to put up with a Brit
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Now I'm having Warcraft II flashbacks.
What ho! Stop clicking me! I’d rather be sailing! I don’t want to werk!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm here for the gangbang?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I'm pretty sure it's all dudes in here...
I know you’ve told some crazy stories before, but I don’t think even you would be up for that.
The good news is that there are five posters now. So we can join forces and trade for Carlos Voltron.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
AA meme sighting
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Really?
I guess I should have expected.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
seems to be an active meme
here’s the …. inception.
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2008/9/25/621741/struggling-mets-combine-to
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The 5 of us can call captain planet.
I liked how all of them were bad asses except the little feller from the Amazon….
WIND!!! WATER!!! FIRE!!!! EARTH!!!! HEART!!!! …..heart?
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Yeah, if you're gonna have a show that serves as little kid propaganda
having such a lame character is really shooting yourself in the foot.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
technically
all the Japanese five-man teams had a heart person. or spirit. except in Japan it’s tied to an actual element, probably thanks to a pun. I think it’s wood or lightning or something.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The Power Rangers didn't have a heart person, did they?
Besides, Captain Planet wasn’t Japanese, it was American/pseudo-international community. And instead of fighting galactic tyrants or giant monsters they fought pollution. LAME.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Godzilla VS thte Smog Monster was a Notorious Box Office Failure...
;=8)
I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O
I had that movie on tape
It was probably copied from Blockbuster. The fish sequence was pretty trippy for a little kid!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It was a Ted Turner creation, I read recently
Mind blown
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Usually, me
and re: Mather, he’s not been hitting for much power in Memphis this year. He’s also 28 and (probably) a minor league free agent next year. I think it’s more or less time we cut our emotional ties with Senor Bombs.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, I know that, you cruel toupee
B_Walton Remember him? OF Joe Mather on fire for Memphis: 15-for-30 (.500), 6 XBH, 7 RBI in last 7 games. #stlcards #hpgf about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Definitely pulling for him, though
I really thought he’d be our long-term Luddy replacement a year or so ago.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
stupid wrist
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Don't take it out on your lover.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tony plans on playing Joey in Sept
La Russa indicated that while Amaury Cazana is not a likely candidate for a September callup, Joe Mather could receive significant consideration.
Amaury Cazana
is too scary for major league baseball. It simply won’t do to have big league pitchers soiling themselves for all to see.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
doesn't want to spoil the "year of the pitcher"
there’d be pitcher’s arms dropping left and right
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's available for the rule 5 draft this offseason, isn't he?
I could see a team taking a flier on him, to take a look at him in ST and possibly try him out as a bench bat. I know some will think that it’s a crazy idea, but really, what is there to lose in that situation? $50k may be worth a look for some teams.
Padres' RFL for GG!
by stxcardsfan on Aug 26, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd start my own team
just to draft Amaury Cazana. I could fill up the rest of the roster with Aaron Miles and Mike Maroth clones, and pitchers still would draw skulls and crossbones on the schedule to represent when our team came to town.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Here's to seeing AP hit #400 tonight
& taking my middle daughter to her first baseball game!
Remember 8/23/10. Keep the Craigen at 2B!
Have fun,
I hope you see a Cardinal victory tonight. We all do.
I'll be there
Planning on setting up in LF for the first inning, then heading to my seat.
Home Run Tracker for Albert v Zimmerman at Nationals Park last May 1.
Video too with the 15 second ad courtesy of mlb.com
by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll be there too
Got tickets to three of the four this weekend. Tonight, I’m in section 100, so maybe I’ll catch #400
I just don't understand
why you ignore your older and younger daughters like this. so mean.
Because
us middle children get no love.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Going to all 4
I am obviously single.
Red Means Go.
by bigwilley18 on Aug 26, 2010 6:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Brutal series.....
Cincy loses 2 of 3 like they are suppose to, and not only can the Cardinals not manage a sweep, we cannot manage to win 2 of 3. No ground lost, but we’ve got to take advantage of these situations when we can.
no ground lost
but we lost face
the Pirates. the Piiiiiirates…. didn’t anyone on the team get the The Pirates suck memo?
i’m tired of these charity losses, making bad teams look good
maybe we should play 10 against the Rays, 5 against Texas, couple against the Yankees and we’ll go back into the lead, but if the Nats sweep us, i won’t be too surprised – how pathetic is that
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
we lost no face...
It is common knowledge that we can’t beat teams that lose 100 games a year.
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
Updated Divisional Game Record...
CIN = 34-21
STL = 31-26 (4 GB)
Odd how that works. Winning in the division equals winning the division. Cincy is winning the season series against everyone in the NLC except St. Louis. St. Louis is only winning the season series against Cincy (10-5) and Pittsburgh (6-3).
vom
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
2 runs allowed
Cincy 17-2
Cards 8-8
For reference, the 2009 Cards were 23-4 when allowing the opponent to score only two runs. Even the 2008 Cards were 13-4.
omg
Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte
If the following is the case,
So it looks like it’ll come down to who’s best able to beat up on mediocre pitchers
then I guess we’ve already lost the duel… cuz we suck against sucky teams and sucky pitchers. This team is sooooooo damn frustrating!
Padres' RFL for GG!
I really haven't closely followed a team like this that I can remember.
I understood why we were mediocre for most of 2006. In 2007 it quickly became apparent that the team wasn’t built to succeed, especially with the loss of Carpenter. In 2008 we were pretty good but the Cubs were still better and as a rebound from 2007 I was very happy with the year. 2009 saw some crazy trading and pieces moved. But this year, even with the injuries, is just maddening. This team should be doing so much better in our division.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
There are four reasons it is not:
The thought process that leads to believing Aaron Miles is a solution.
And Randy Winn.
And Jeff Suppan.
And the deadweight effects game after game of the LaRussa Tax.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Hypothetical...If you were to catch #400, would you...
a) keep it, rubbing it every night until you fell asleep?
b) keep it, and put it on the mantle
c) give it back to albert, and insist on signed memorabilia in return
d) give it back to albert, and simply ask to congratulate him
e) give it back and ask nothing
f) sell it
g) sell it to albert
h) other
discuss…
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
give it back and politely hand him another ball to sign
take a picture with him if he allows it, shake his hand, say congratulations, we love you, good luck to the team and leave him the hell alone
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
this
you could also wrap yourself around his calf, and beg him to sign a team-friendly extension this offseason… what, too much?
Padres' RFL for GG!
by stxcardsfan on Aug 26, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll give the ball back to you if you sign a 7 year $35 million deal with the Cards
“A year?” “No. 35 for all 7. $5 a year.”
by Mulliganstew on Aug 26, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell, no.
You have to have Aaron Miles sign that. Then donate it to the Hall of Fame, where they will display it appropriately, and young kids will frustrate their fathers thereforth with questions of “Who is Aaron Miles, Daddy?”
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Personally
I’d have Chris Carpenter sign it:
To the HOF: I’m Chris Carpenter, and I don’t give a fuck.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
He can have his baseball
But he’ll blow me first!
/Mel Gibson’d
by lopey986 on Aug 26, 2010 10:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
d. I just want to shake his hand and tell him congratulations. and I would want to give it to him myself.
yep--this is what I would want to do.
personally congratulate him and give him what he has rightfully earned.
perhaps I’d walk away with a “sign a team-friendly and stay here!”—to be determined.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Aug 26, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
honestly
I’m sure Pujols could care less about hr 400, and wouldn’t be concerned about getting it back. If you offered it to him, he may just sign it and hand it right back to you. 400 is great, but for a guy of Pujols’ level of talent who’s only been in the league 10 years, it probably doesn’t mean much yet. Now hr 500 may get his attention and hr 600 would definitely be a ball that Pujols would want.
Padres' RFL for GG!
by stxcardsfan on Aug 26, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Pujols won't want the ball.
The ball will want him.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Have you seen that Dove commercial with him in it?
He has a whole collection of milestone balls. I am thinking he’d want it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i was about to say that
he has a bunch of those and i’m sure if you’d offer to give it back, he’d take it and even say “thanks mang”
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I think choice E
I don’t think I’d ask for anything back. It’s enough of a pleasure just to watch him play the game. It’s his ball, I don’t need anything in return.
Of course, I’ll be at the game saturday with seats near the left field foul pole, so umm, if by chance I actually end up with the ball. Well, it’s easier to say what you would do in theory.
by stickman179 on Aug 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I'd want a signed bat in return
that’s the usual sort of thing people ask for and I’m sure he’d only be too happy to sort that out.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think a signed bat sounds greedy at all.......
compared to what I’d want for it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Perhaps not
but felons typically are…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't think I'd give it away.....
If Albert wanted it, I’d probably give it back to him for some signed memorabilia. If not, I’d hold onto it. Probably worth more later.
id just want some fair market value/ or fair exchange
im not some dumb groundskeeper
by guillermozeliak on Aug 26, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby update from today's mothership preview
Cardinals outfielder Colby Rasmus is still out with a sore right calf but is making progress and could play sometime in the Washington series.
Nats are throwing two lefties in the series (Fri and Sun) so Tony might only start him on Saturday.
Progressing nicely.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Long-time reader, first-time commenter
Have loved this site for a long time, guys, but I gotta ask one question:
Why does it seem like every other post starts off with how busy the writer/reporter is and how they don’t have time to write. Most of the time, you go on to write a fine, if not short, piece. For as bad as newspapers have become, very few columnists start off their piece say, “Don’t have time for a well-thought out column today, but …” If you’re busy, like most folks trying to make a living in this economy, why not bring more writers/editors into the fold?
Love the site as it helps keep me sane in Canada.
by archstanton on Aug 26, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
because this is the real world
and the guys that make sure there are posts daily don’t get paid to do this and just this. as far as i am concerned dan and tom and az and vep and rb can write whatever they feel like saying
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Sit down sometime and see if you
can set aside 2 or 3 hours/day or more to make a serious, researched article. Then do it each day.
And if you have time to do that, well screw you hippie.
Dan does 3 days a week I think
in fact possibly 4. RB does one (Wednesday), VEP ostensibly does one although I think Azru’s been doing his lately (Sundays?) and TomS does one (Mon or Tue I think).
Also, y’all are totally misunderestimatating the OP’s point. Read it again. He’s not complaining about the lack of content in the main posts. Comprehension, my fellow Redbird fans!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
so are you saying the op is actually putting in an application
to be an author/editor on veb?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I did
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
no respondo
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
no
the OP is suggesting (in a rhetorical manner) that the quality of even the short front-page posts is sufficient that it is unnecessary and slightly self-flaggelatary (is that even a term?) to say “sorry I didn’t have much time to write this”. Isn’t that perfectly clear if you actually read his post?
He’s not shilling for editorship and he’s not criticising the quality of the front page material, over and above this one minor (constructive) suggestion. It’s really not necessary to chew him out over this if you misunderstood the thrust of his post.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Danup -> tuesday, thursday, friday
Tom → saturday
Azru → sunday
Me → monday (dan ends up covering for me a lot).
by vivaelpujols on Aug 27, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
the point is to not use a disclaimer
not very professional
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I think what causes it
is that there’s a wider gap between this being a job and this being a responsibility than there is for newspaper columnists. Sometimes I have more pressing things come up and realize I won’t have time to do what is, for me, a full VEB post, and I feel bad about it because it’s a responsibility I’m shirking (hence the disclaimer) but I can’t really avoid it because it’s not a full-fledged job I’m blowing off.
Thanks for the kind words.
also I wanted to make the follow-up annie hall reference
by DanUpBaby on Aug 26, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn foreigners….we will Americanize you yet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think every Woody Allen flick
could be described as a nervous romance……As could most of his life.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'd be nervous too if I was boinking my adopted daughter :-<
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
"Hey, don't knock masturbation! It's sex with someone I love!"
:=8D
I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Aug 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which was bull.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Star Wars didn't have Christopher Walken. He makes any movie gold!

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
by shadetree on Aug 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
indeed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
if only….
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 26, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Hope that link works...
Youtube is blocked for me here at work.
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
youtube commenters hate everything.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Hang on, I need to fix this so it describes every Woody Allen movie.
“it’s a movie about women […] and the [much older and creepy] neurotic jewish man who loves them.”*
*Except for What’s Up Tigerlily, which is a pulse-pounding spy flick about the search for a stolen egg salad recipe.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever
Take the Money and Run is an accoplishment in American Slapstick Comedy
This film is presented as a documentary on the life of an incompetent, petty criminal called Virgil Starkwell. It describes the early childhood and youth of Virgil, his failure at a musical career, and his obsession with bank robberies. The film uses a voice over narrative and interviews with his family, friends and acquaintances.
by YesWeOquendo on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
he had a second wave of great movies in there - mighty aphrodite was good. i really like sweet and lowdown.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Sweet and Lowdown is very enjoyable.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Sweet and Lowdown is my favourite Allen film by a long stretch
I’ve found his work that I’ve seen to be very variable, but I’d say that’s one of my top 20 or so films.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions
what do you mean "even you"?
how dare you imply you are less educated than i am? ha
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
he's 12
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
catastrophic...
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
injury.
But he’s Progressing Nicely.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The site team's post are great ...
… and I have never seen a need to apologize for time or content. I don’t care if you have 10 minutes or 10 hours, you usually hit it dead on. It’s one of the best sports sites on the InterWebs (with the possible need of a little more Jeff Gordon ridicule every now and then). And honestly, as often as your research is “borrowed” by some of the regular media, you should be getting at least a royalty check or two. Don’t apologize for your time. Readers like me appreciate whatever you guys give us. Keep up the good work.
by archstanton on Aug 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I often wonder if the comments also get poached
for instance, in his weekly slobberfest of a chat, Joe Strauss, when answering a question on Infante’s chances at the battiing title, seemed to nearly echo the discussion here on that topic. I realize it could be just that he’s using the same stats, but it made me wonder…in the context of a chat, less time to do one’s own research, etc.
Colby: "There's been a whole lot of riff-raff going on"
maybe we should test this theory
and for a week write about nothing but unicorns, divorce, cupcakes and urinary tract infections and see how he does with his articles and chat
…and then i go and punch him in the face
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
hahaha awesome
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Just cut to the chase
and punch him in the face now.
by cardsgirl95 on Aug 26, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a great idea...
it would be like the “Joebaiting” that went on when FJM was in existence.
So…Straussbaiting, anyone? Maybe we can come up with a better title; something that involves surfing a tsunami or a “meister” or something dumb.
Straussterbaiting?
any better?
Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte
straussspotting
for some reason sounds good
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
guayzimi was the one responsible for Omar Infante's stats
so ill give him props
u’d think at the same time….the less research they do by reading veb they would focus on other things like exercise….bernie?
by guillermozeliak on Aug 26, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
While I don't really agree with the stuff about columnists etc.
It does seem like VEB editors mention their time-strapedness very often.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
yeah
it would be better to just give the article without the disclaimer. it’s like most people wouldn’t even know that it was a rushed article.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's just a proactive defense mechanism for an article that we felt wasn't given full justice
by vivaelpujols on Aug 26, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well, when I had art critiques in college
every time someone used a disclaimer for something creative it was always discouraged, no matter what the disclaimer was.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
okay?
I’m just saying that, as a person who almost exclusively saves his posts to the last minute, I often don’t have time to be as detailed as I would like and I try to inform the reader of that.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 26, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it's really just a matter of preference
I’d rather not read disclaimers, personally. I’d like to live under the illusion that the post is the best thing we can get.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
we do after all live in the best of all possible worlds, dr. pangloss.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
ok
basically what I am getting at is just when you are reading something, reading a lot of disclaimers gets old after a while. I’m sure everyone is busy and doesn’t have the amount of time they’d like to invest, but we don’t necessarily need to know that.
I do really appreciate all the good writing and info on this site though, don’t get me wrong. just saying, maybe don’t need to know every time that you don’t have enough time to do write or whatever.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i wasn't criticizing your request, just having a little fun about illusions.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
I know
sorry about that heh
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
You should apologize.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
already did!
I’ve been bad
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think everyone here understands that:
a) there’s not always an awful lot to say about Cardinals baseball on a day-to-day basis, and
b) not everyone is able to spend upwards of an hour per week saying it.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions
re: conspiracy
I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a tad nervous now
He didn't stay to see Jimmy?
The thing about Kim Jong Il, is that the craziest of the Communists, think he’s fucking nuts.
// NO POLOTICS
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The Chinese aren't cow-moo-nists anymoore....
they make moore bank than just about anyone else!
I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O
He has to visit people every once in a while
because he gets so lonely.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ha, if it gets too hot to be in the us, i can always move back to europe
and just so you know, i’m taking the cardinals with me.
what sounds better – frankfurt cardinals, madrid cardinals, milan cardinals, oslo cardinals?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Berwick-Upon-Tweed Cardinals
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If you're going to use it, have the full city name:
Frankfurt am Main Cardinals.
Stormtrooping through the National League.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I cosign
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
if i were a cardinal, i'd definitely vote for oslo.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Clearly, this is an international Kim-Chi summitt.
Kim Jong Il is sharing tips on how to make the best stuff.
yeah

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
That looks familiar for some reason.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Remaining Schedule
favors the Reds by a long shot. Here are some differences going forward
Cincy has 2 more home games
Cards play 5 more road games (losing record on the road)
Cincy host
- 4 with Dbacks (2nd worst road record), Astros for 3 and Brewers for 6
Cards host
- Reds for 3, Padres for 4 (best road record) and end the season with 4 against resurgent Rockies
Cincy visits
- Cards for 3, Padres for 3 and Rockies for 4
Cards visit
- Nats for 4, Braves for 4 (best home record), Pirates for 3, Cubs for 3, and the one game makeup in FLA
But the Cards play the tougher teams better.
We lose to the crap teams, so I look forwards to those Padres/Reds/Braves/Rockies games.
I swear to god I remember a time when the world made sense.
When was this?
The Whitey Herzog Years?
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Baseball Prospectus
says the Giants are favored to win the wild card, barely, followed by the Cardinals and Phillies.
The Reds are favored to win the NL Central 75-25.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I was generally amused when the graphics for this road trip came up...
And most experts were saying we had the advantage over Cincy because we were playing crap teams… but as most of us know playing crap teams is the Cardinals Kryptonite. I would have rather played 9 against the yanks than play a road series against sub 500 teams.
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
The Photoshop possibilities for this Albert pic are endless.

I would personally enjoy a speech bubble that said something like “Hey Brandon Phillips, scoreboard.”
Of course we would need to post this when we win the division. Which may mean this doesn’t get posted this year. DAMMIT THIS POST WAS SUPPOSED TO BE POSITIVE.
In kickball championships we had a sign that said
“we’re drunk and you’re losing”. At the end of the game my friend adro asked the guy why he didn’t hold up the sign and he said “well…you were never winning…”
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Hey guys, the scoreboard says we're playing the bleep bleep Pirates!
by TBender on Aug 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Listen up --
Carp is delivering luggage over there, so get your asses in line.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
"look at the scoreboard now, grasshopper."
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Aug 26, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
is there going to be baseball in this new world order?
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions
is this some sort of meme from last night's overflow or something?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Click the link in the main post
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Click your mom in the main post!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Baseball and cockroaches my friend...
baseball and cockroaches.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on Aug 26, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and twinkies.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 26, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
OT:
So the Omaha Royals are moving out of Rosenblatt Stadium to a ballpark way out in the suburbs, the middle of a cornfield off a highway. In conjunction with this move, the franchise is having a “name the team” contest.
As I think “name the team” contests are hellalame, I tried to think up the stupidest name I possibly could. Actually, it was easy. Nebraska is known for corn, and every damn minor league team is either the Cats, Katz, Catz, Dogs or Dawgs.
So here you are, fans, your 2011 Omaha Corn Dogs!
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
why not the omaha buffets, to honor the native son?
or, i suppose, the omaha bright eyes.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
You wanna know what's funny?
I’m a Chartered Financial Consultant, and I honestly asked myself,
“Huh? The dinner buffet was invented in Nebraska?”
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
in fairness, i think it's buffett.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Yeah, I think you're right.
The lack of capitalization also threw me for a loop, though I know that’s your thing.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
So I hear the White Sox are gonna pick up Manny
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
A time of upheaval in wrestling
I remember being all like, “whoa, Razor Ramon isn’t really hispanic, and he’s in WCW now? And who’s this XPac guy who looks just like the 123 Kid?”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
And where the he** is the Ultimate Warrior?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
And is he really Kerry Von Eric?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
One Warrior Nation.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
/bronco buster
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Cueto pitches on the 4th
When asked if the Reds would consider juggling their rotation in order to skip Cueto in that series, manager Dusty Baker told the newspaper, “I don’t know yet. He’s going to have to pitch against them some time. They say time heals all wounds. Maybe it doesn’t.”
why don't you ask jason larue if time heals all wounds when you see him dusty? oh wait,
HE’S OUT FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
in the case of Cueto, hopefully Time Wounds all Heals.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Aug 26, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
/buzz
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
carp hits the kicking girl with the first samsonite
busch stadium erupts in cheers and gives him a 15 minute standing ovation
alternative – distribute the baseballs you use for bp to the crowd and let them shower cueto and bp with them on their first at-bats
alternative – let sauce start the game and plunk cueto with a mild 99 mph in the ribs and when he’s tossed, let carp resume normal operations
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
Sauce would have to pitch to nine batters to get to Cueto though
Start with Hawk, get him through eight hitters, let Motte come in just for Cueto, THEN bring Carp in
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Probability of beaning
>1, somehow.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Cueto Should be Plunked on the Very First Pitch He Sees...
…and the umps should allow it. If this is not allowed to happen then there is no justice in baseball, and Carp should luggage him in the tunnel after the game.
I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O
I don't think that concussions every actually heal.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Albert Pujols
Does his best Johnny Cueto cornered impression

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
that looks like something out of Guernica
is he getting HBP there or what?
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
by nota bene on Aug 26, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Baseball Mogul
Picked it up a few weeks back, Dan, per our discussion. Have to say it is a fantastic diversion to use whenever the real world Cards are letting me down…..which is to say I’m playing it almost daily.
No OOTP :)?
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He did mention that one as well
Said that Mogul was a bit more manueverable for someone who is just dipping their toes in it, so that’s what I went with. Think he said OOTP provide a lot more realism in terms of 40 man management and things of that nature? Notice a lot of teams just load up their over the hill veterans in AAA in Mogul.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah thats correct
OOTP is very realistic. So many options. I havent played BM but it does seem more manageable for someone just starting a baseball sim. OOTP isn’t too difficult either IMO.
BTW, I almost have the site for my OOTP league ready. I’ll let those you are interested know later today.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I'll pick that one up over the offseason
It does sound interesting.
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 26, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome
For anyone interested in the statistics of baseball and any interest in acting as a GM of a team OOTP is amazing. If you do pick it up let me know. Online leagues with actual human GMs are that much better.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
For those of you old enough to remember. . .
the Cold War era flick WarGames,
Baseball Mogul is Tic-Tac-Toe. . . .
OOTP is Global Thermonuclear War.
That’s overstating the difference a bit; BM is a fine game, but it’s statistical realism and financial model are not nearly as good as OOTP IMHO. Granted, it’s been a few versions since I played BM, but OOTP is far more adaptable and immersive.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
And in fairness. . .
BM is probably more accessible and playable in the short term.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd love to be able to do the things available in OOTP and not Mogul
especially the Rule 5 draft, which I’ve always been way too fond of, but as it’s configured now the gain in enjoyment I’d get from its complexity is really marginal. OOTP’s interface just drove me nuts whenever I had, say, an hour to play something.
The interface has improved. . .
as have the statistical modelling, the financial modelling, and the draft pool modelling.
Perhaps more importantly, the new version (OOTP11) seems to be much less of a RAM-hog. Under some of the older versions, it would literally take 10-15 minutes to either (1) load an MLB-sized league with full minors, or (2) download an update to an on-league file.
If you have an extra few bucks lying around, you really might want to chack out 11; the rookie signing bonuses, arbitration, and addition of individual pitch ratings really have helped the game take a great leap.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We should all chip in alittle to get DanUp OOTP
That way he can play in my league I’m starting :)
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
OT: For those in the KC area
RT @BaconFestKC EARLY REGISTRATION CLOSES AT NOON TODAY! Walk-up registration will be open the day of the event! www.baconfestkc.com
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
today around the majors
The Yanks and Rays are tied for first
The White Sox are 3.5 back from the Twins (sounds familiar)
The Rangers might be the first team to win a division
San Diego has the biggest lead in the NL for division title
it looks like there will be a dog fight between the Braves and Phillies
if we can’t win the division, it won’t be easy for a wild card with the Phils leading, and San Fran ahead of us… and the Rockies will probably be a factor also.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions
ot: this just got forwarded to me with subject "dinner"

beef patty, cheddar, bacon, hotdogs 25 min at 400 deg = turtle burgers. hmmmmm….
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
sick.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 26, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
reminds of the Cosby Show -- Bacon Burger Dogs
For those of you young-uns or d-dee, the Cosby Show was kind of a big deal TV show in the 80s.
young-uns or d-dee
aahahaa
actually i saw quite a few episodes of the cosby show in germany – they run it during the daytime
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
dubbed?
i have a terrific image of theo’s mouth opening and a stream of german coming out.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
of course dubbed
germans dub everything, their words are too long for subtitles
until you put Jugendarbeitsschutzgesetz on the screen, you’re already 3 sentences behind
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
n the 80s.
Who the hell is Motley Crue?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
pretty cool.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
thank you captain obvious
BJRains
Today’s column on FOXSportsMidwest.com: Cards can’t afford to keep losing to lesser competition: http://bit.ly/cIFyqa #stlcards #mlb 3 minutes ago via web
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
basically we are reaching the point where we need two out of the three of these things to happen
the easy one first: start racking up a lot of wins vs. bad teams. we haven’t done this yet.
second: Reds starting rotation collapses. we have seen possible signs of this vs the Giants
third: Reds go from slightly lucky BABIP to unlucky BABIP
if 2 out of 3 of these criteria are matched, I still like the Cardinals chances. it’s too bad it’s reached the point that we need a majority of these to happen though.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
nothing stops that kind of density.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also, they need to start scoring more runs than the other team.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
perhaps this is just the ticket
for some sweet Cardinal victories
PERhAPS
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 26, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
if you can't do that consistently,
you’re not going to win many baseball games.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
so I heard Luhnow on the radio
he said
1. he knows Amaury Marti Cazana real well
2. Amaury Marti Cazana is an enigma
TRUTH!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Did he explain why they won't let Amaury come save us in September?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
he was all for it. went on quite a while about him being a baseball rat and performing at all levels
not to mention improving his baserunning and defense
but the last quotes from TLR said not really.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also, I saw some guy walking from a bus stop with a pink bedazzled Cardinals hat.
he might have been carrying, so I didn’t honk at him.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
OT: This a question for the medical people in our midst.
Do any of you know about how much physical therapy helps with non-diabetic neuropathy? I’ve been trying to research it and haven’t gotten any definitive answers. Thanks.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 26, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions
You need Scoot.
Sounds like it’s right up his alley.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah.
I figured either he or hazel could ferret something out.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I can ask my wife when she gets home
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Thanks.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 26, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
depends on how bad it is
and what the cause is. Need more details.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
My dad has had it developing for about 10 years.
It started sometime after his triple bypass. They just told us that it happens in a certain percentage of people that have heart surgery. The numbness has gotten up to about his mid-thigh in both legs and at least the forearm area of his arms. He just talks about his legs being weak and stumbles a lot.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 27, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
per Leach
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think you can make out his reflection.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Kind of creepy, actually.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
almost jumps out of the screen...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what, Carp didn't push for Boog?
or why the hell is he sitting all of a sudden?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
doghouse
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
what the fuck does that mean?
why did we go dumpster diving to improve defense if all we’re doing is simultaneously decreasing the defense? i have to believe that floppy at 3B + Boog at SS is better than Feliz at 3B, Floppy at SS. RIGHT?? but i guess, what the fuck do i know
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
It is my guess that Boog is injured.
That’s the only explanation that makes sense.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
How can that be?
Zimmerman has a grand total of 91 career innings.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
i'm sure tony will clarify in pre or post game interviews if asked
and besides, since when are you expecting to understand tlr decisions?
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
I know, I know
But even this is nuts by his nutty standards.
It defies even Tony-Logic.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
you would think that if that were true, Tony would say so
besides i never saw him do anything that looked injurious. i guess we have to make up for the pit of offense that is feliz and substitute floppy for boog. EVEN THOUGH BOOG IS HITTING VERY WELL IN THE SECOND HALF.
FUCK
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I have no idea
Here is the quote from yesterday which is what I was referencing
Felipe Lopez, though struggling at bat again, will play shortstop instead of Brendan Ryan, who is missing his second start of this series.
“He’s not getting a night off,” said La Russa. “He’s just not playing. I’m trying to play a team that wins the game.”
That's awful
Ryan’s been worth a win in the field already this year.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
I'm suprised Carp didn't get Boog in there
That whole “winning team,” is bullshit….they’ve lost the last two games under his “winning team,” and Boog is ridiculous in the field.
Wait until Lopez makes an error behind Carp. If you thought he was mad with Brendan having the wrong glove, you haven’t seen anything yet.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So...
…there are times when Tony tries to play a team that won’t win the game? That explains all the PT for Miles, Suppan, Fat Miles, Winn, etc.
Winn hasn't gotten that much playing time lately
and he still doesn’t belong in the same group with those others
Gawd, sometimes we jump on the slightest thing here.
Look, my overall point is a valid one. And just because Winn is better than the troika of goateed roster-spot wastes doesn’t mean I’d want to see him start over any of our 4 other outfield options. Holliday, Clobby, Jay and Craig should all be ahead of him on the depth chart right now.
like... drag the rivers?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
at this point I will be surprised when Rasmus actually plays
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
just sayin I wouldn't be surprised when he is not in the lineup at this point
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
shame he's spending so much of his last couple months as a Cardinal
shelved with a busted leg meat piece
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 26, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
whoever did this was really anal retentive
used a ruler.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
different handwriting
that means someone… probably on the Cardinals side … is tearing their hair out and about to snap
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I like that they have Rodrigue^2 playing catcher
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Even without Raz or Boog
I still think we have better players at 6-8 positions. They have us beat only at one position. Maybe two toss-up positions (only because I really don’t know anything about Desmond, and I don’t know how Kennedy’s doing this year)
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll align with Dan...prescriptive
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Desmond
> Lopez
> Boog
He’s had a great second half, and is a pretty hot prospect. Garry Templeton, maybe (minus the attitude, and with eras adjusted for a bit more power)?
by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
BECAUSE TLR
MatthewHLeach Because many have asked: TLR doesn’t like the matchup for Ryan vs. J.Zimmerman. So it’s Lopez at SS. 3 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yuck
Posted above, but that’s just ridiculous. Zimmerman has 91 innings pitched, threw one game against the Cards in which he gave up 5 runs in 5 innings.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
maybe its zimmerman's style of pitching that doesn't fair well for boog.
or maybe Tony has a hat with a bunch of excuses in it and he just pulls one out of the hat when someone asks why someone isn’t playing.
Reporter: Tony, any reason why Ryan is sitting again today?
TLR: (pulls index card out of small hat at his desk) Yeah, uh, he struggles against lefties, so he’s sitting today.
Reporter: But…Zambrano is a right handed pitcher.
TLR: oh..yeah…uh (pulls another card) I’m trying to put a winning team in the field. now scram, i have (seed) to do.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
rec'd for deliberately obtrusive, goold-style obscenity euphemism.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
you know its a good day when tom s. rec's your comment.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Except for the whole Boog sitting the bench for no reason thing.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
right. (seed.)
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
ah, (intimate relations).
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So that makes "hat" a euphemism for "ass" then?
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
To wit:
or maybe Tony has a (hat) with a bunch of excuses in it and he just pulls one out of the (hat) when someone asks why someone isn’t playing.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I wish TLR would just come out and say "he's in the doghouse" or whatever.
"I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year." Adam Wainwright
I don't think
There’s a box big enough to hold the amount of dice it would take to make up TLR’s infinite number of double-switches, matchups, and whether or not the grocery store had his hair dye thus determining whether Boog sits or not.
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Do they make 9-sided dice for the lineup?
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 26, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh I think they can make any kind of dice
by Merry CRasmus on Aug 26, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
VEB did
it’s in fanshots
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You are way too slow today.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i thought someone fanposted the tony dodecahedron lineup generator last year.
y2s?
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
I think it was Fritz...hang on.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
My bad....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
man, this dodecahedron of suck - with miles, feliz, winn, etc., could really be the "bop-it 2" of home lineup creation.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
allen craig has a .589 OPS and a .250 wOBA
la de dah.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
Nothing personal against Craig.....
And I know it won’t sit well on the board, but I don’t like the kid’s swing. I don’t think it lends to being very productive or consistent at this level.
That is just my opinion. Nothing but time will tell.
the more i watch him,
the more i agree. i don’t think it necessarily precludes him from being productive at this level, but it’s a pretty ugly upper cut swing and i think it precludes him from putting up the kind of numbers he has put up in the minors here
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I think he looks OK personally
he’s going through a rough stretch and it can’t be easy playing your first full-time season. He’s always been considered a guy with a slightly long swing in the minors IIRC and he’s made it work. There are a number of people here who agree with you, though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions
in case someone didn't hear
MLBSTLCardinals
The Cards/Marlins rainout from 8/8 will be made up on 9/20 @ #Marlins. Game time: 3:10. 4 minutes ago via web
..i miss ludriguez-wick..
YES...Last off day of the year is the 2nd.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's a damn good thing we have 3 pitchers that can go the distance any given night.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure i would put jaime in that category given he's only pitched into the 8th inning once.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
yes that was the most efficient jaime was all season. just saying i dont think he's someone who can "go the distance any given night"...yet.
but i really really really want him to be
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
over.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 26, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
over
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
over unless the unthinkable is thought
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 26, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know what you're talking about, but i definitely don't like it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i don't care for it myself
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 26, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
The unthinkable:
It never occurred to me, to be honest.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I do not want to watch this shock video
Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?
by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
4 game sweep
would be very very nice
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
how bout those stros on their 4gamer
by guillermozeliak on Aug 26, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
it's almost as bad as Feliz 5th
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction
it’salmost asbadasFeliz 5th
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
AJ warming with the bullpen
He slacked off and only jogged half the warning track.
by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
never thought I would ever say this
but seriously, GO CUBS! Votto doesn’t like you btw…
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
Excuse Me
But do I have Barbacoa in my teeth?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions
Listening to an NPR show right now where they're saying
Lou Gehrig might not have had Lou Gehrig’s disease. Some scientists in Boston (same group that did the study on former football players’ head injuries recently) are saying that some medical problems associated with recurrent head trauma can look very similar to ALS. And apparently Gehrig took quite a beating – one time he was knocked unconscious for five minutes after being hit in the head, and he came back and played the next day “with a huge lump on his head and a bad headache,” thereby keeping his streak alive.
Link to the program here.
by BTown Birds fan on Aug 26, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions
so Lou Gehrig's disease is actually just called stubborness?
shit, I think I might have spelled that wrong, haven’t written that word in quite some time. or maybe it’s just one of those words that looks wrong when you write it but it’s actually correct.
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
well, both
"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
LARUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEE
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Boog highlights!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

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