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Lots of bad news, mostly Cardinals-related

Well, that was awful, and to top it off I don't have the time to do it full justice—I've got places to be, as it were. (Terrible food! And such small portions!) So let's just get the awfulness out in the open: 

  • The Cardinals lost to the Pirates, of all teams. The Pirates are the team they're supposed to beat! And they tacked on one of those late-innings non-rallies at the end, which are just killing me. When the team's winning—when it doesn't seem to fall behind in the first inning as part of a handicap agreement—Felipe Lopez bouncing a ball off the foul pole for a solo home run feels predestined and kind of cruel to the other team. When it's not winning, it's just a little sad.
  • Jake Westbrook lost to the Pirates! Westbrook has been just-fine, but the Cardinals haven't taken advantage of it at all, which means that we'll be hearing that one-win-in-five-starts thing until—well, at least until his next start. Last night was the first game for which blame can really be lain at Westbrook's doorstep; for the most part what frustrates us should be that the Cardinals had previously lost three of the four quality starts he'd thrown. By Game Score, his first two starts as a Cardinal were tied as his third-best performances of the season; normally, that means the trade is a success.
  • The Reds, of course, won a game that could well have been a heartbreaking loss. I'm not sure I've ever seen a Fangraphs chart quite like this before: 

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  • Joey Votto narrowed Albert Pujols's lead in two categories of the triple crown and widened his lead in the other. Hey—if the Cardinals are going to miss the playoffs I needed that!
  • As if things weren't bad enough already, I learned in the overflow thread that a New World Order will detonate a bomb in South Korea next month! Come on! Silver lining: mysterui didn't post a direct link to 4chan. Cloud lining: because the New World Order forced the thread off of 4chan!

All things considered, it was a bad night to be a fan of either the Cardinals or the Old World Order. The problem isn't whether or not the Cardinals can make up 3.5 games in the next month right now—it's that they're 3-7 in their last 10 games. They need to prove they can play well again, and regularly, before we worry about whether there's enough time to catch Cincinnati. 

This weekend the Cardinals get four games against the Washington Nationals, and the Cardinals should—prescriptive should, not descriptive should—win all of them. 3.5 games back still feels doable; for some reason four seems like a particularly strong psychological barrier. The Cardinals descriptive-ought to have an easier time with Jordan Zimmermann (just back from elbow surgery), Scott Olsen, Livan Hernandez, and John Lannan than they could with four members of most any other rotation, so the schedule won't be the problem if they can't gain ground here.

Er, wait—The Reds, after a day off, get Tom Gorzelanny, Randy Wells, Casey Coleman (winner of the Baseball Mogul Simulated Name soundalike award for 2010), and Randy Wolf. So it looks like it'll come down to who's best able to beat up on mediocre pitchers, a gentleman's duel if ever I've heard of one. 

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JASON MOTTE NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

meanwhile, arise Joey Bombardiers

he’s on a hot streak.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 8:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I've pretty much given up on seeing Joe Mather again this year.

I dunno. His good stretches don’t really scream “back to normal” to me.
We’ve now combined for the first six comments in the thread today. What kind of losers post the first six comments before 7:30 )central time)?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

With a parenthesis fail to boot

Seven comments!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am not forming Voltron with you.

just so you know.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

just so you guys don't feel so alone

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Aug 26, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Yadi2Second said he definitely wants to form Voltron. All the kids at school will think we're the coolest.

Which lion do you want to be?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm out of the loop on this one

You guys just seemed lonely in here all buy yourself. And if that wasn’t bad enough, now you have to put up with a Brit

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Aug 26, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

What-ho!

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now I'm having Warcraft II flashbacks.

What ho! Stop clicking me! I’d rather be sailing! I don’t want to werk!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm here for the gangbang?

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 26, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it's all dudes in here...

I know you’ve told some crazy stories before, but I don’t think even you would be up for that.
The good news is that there are five posters now. So we can join forces and trade for Carlos Voltron.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

AA meme sighting

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I guess I should have expected.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

seems to be an active meme

here’s the …. inception.
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2008/9/25/621741/struggling-mets-combine-to

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

The 5 of us can call captain planet.

I liked how all of them were bad asses except the little feller from the Amazon….

WIND!!! WATER!!! FIRE!!!! EARTH!!!! HEART!!!! …..heart?

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 26, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if you're gonna have a show that serves as little kid propaganda

having such a lame character is really shooting yourself in the foot.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

technically

all the Japanese five-man teams had a heart person. or spirit. except in Japan it’s tied to an actual element, probably thanks to a pun. I think it’s wood or lightning or something.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Power Rangers didn't have a heart person, did they?

Besides, Captain Planet wasn’t Japanese, it was American/pseudo-international community. And instead of fighting galactic tyrants or giant monsters they fought pollution. LAME.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had that movie on tape

It was probably copied from Blockbuster. The fish sequence was pretty trippy for a little kid!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a Ted Turner creation, I read recently

Mind blown

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Usually, me

and re: Mather, he’s not been hitting for much power in Memphis this year. He’s also 28 and (probably) a minor league free agent next year. I think it’s more or less time we cut our emotional ties with Senor Bombs.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, I know that, you cruel toupee

B_Walton Remember him? OF Joe Mather on fire for Memphis: 15-for-30 (.500), 6 XBH, 7 RBI in last 7 games. #stlcards #hpgf about 9 hours ago via TweetDeck

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely pulling for him, though

I really thought he’d be our long-term Luddy replacement a year or so ago.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

stupid wrist

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tony plans on playing Joey in Sept
La Russa indicated that while Amaury Cazana is not a likely candidate for a September callup, Joe Mather could receive significant consideration.

from the mothership

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

yey

boog and bombs reunited!!
moar sitcom!

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amaury Cazana

is too scary for major league baseball. It simply won’t do to have big league pitchers soiling themselves for all to see.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't want to spoil the "year of the pitcher"

there’d be pitcher’s arms dropping left and right

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he's available for the rule 5 draft this offseason, isn't he?

I could see a team taking a flier on him, to take a look at him in ST and possibly try him out as a bench bat. I know some will think that it’s a crazy idea, but really, what is there to lose in that situation? $50k may be worth a look for some teams.

Padres' RFL for GG!

by stxcardsfan on Aug 26, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd start my own team

just to draft Amaury Cazana. I could fill up the rest of the roster with Aaron Miles and Mike Maroth clones, and pitchers still would draw skulls and crossbones on the schedule to represent when our team came to town.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Here's to seeing AP hit #400 tonight

& taking my middle daughter to her first baseball game!

Remember 8/23/10. Keep the Craigen at 2B!

by gocards62 on Aug 26, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Have fun,

I hope you see a Cardinal victory tonight. We all do.

by cardsgirl95 on Aug 26, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be there

Planning on setting up in LF for the first inning, then heading to my seat.

Home Run Tracker for Albert v Zimmerman at Nationals Park last May 1.

Video too with the 15 second ad courtesy of mlb.com

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'll be there too

Got tickets to three of the four this weekend. Tonight, I’m in section 100, so maybe I’ll catch #400

by brafi on Aug 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't understand

why you ignore your older and younger daughters like this. so mean.

by sdrone on Aug 26, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because

us middle children get no love.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Going to all 4

I am obviously single.

Red Means Go.

by bigwilley18 on Aug 26, 2010 6:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Brutal series.....

Cincy loses 2 of 3 like they are suppose to, and not only can the Cardinals not manage a sweep, we cannot manage to win 2 of 3. No ground lost, but we’ve got to take advantage of these situations when we can.

by Stanley1 on Aug 26, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

no ground lost

but we lost face
the Pirates. the Piiiiiirates…. didn’t anyone on the team get the The Pirates suck memo?
i’m tired of these charity losses, making bad teams look good
maybe we should play 10 against the Rays, 5 against Texas, couple against the Yankees and we’ll go back into the lead, but if the Nats sweep us, i won’t be too surprised – how pathetic is that

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pirates aren't as bad at home 30-36

which beats the Cards road record of 27-33.

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

we lost no face...

It is common knowledge that we can’t beat teams that lose 100 games a year.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean

by shadetree on Aug 26, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Updated Divisional Game Record...

CIN = 34-21
STL = 31-26 (4 GB)

Odd how that works. Winning in the division equals winning the division. Cincy is winning the season series against everyone in the NLC except St. Louis. St. Louis is only winning the season series against Cincy (10-5) and Pittsburgh (6-3).

by TBender on Aug 26, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

vom

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

2 runs allowed

Cincy 17-2
Cards 8-8

For reference, the 2009 Cards were 23-4 when allowing the opponent to score only two runs. Even the 2008 Cards were 13-4.

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

omg

Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte

by BVHeck on Aug 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the following is the case,
So it looks like it’ll come down to who’s best able to beat up on mediocre pitchers

then I guess we’ve already lost the duel… cuz we suck against sucky teams and sucky pitchers. This team is sooooooo damn frustrating!

Padres' RFL for GG!

by stxcardsfan on Aug 26, 2010 9:39 AM EDT reply actions  

I really haven't closely followed a team like this that I can remember.

I understood why we were mediocre for most of 2006. In 2007 it quickly became apparent that the team wasn’t built to succeed, especially with the loss of Carpenter. In 2008 we were pretty good but the Cubs were still better and as a rebound from 2007 I was very happy with the year. 2009 saw some crazy trading and pieces moved. But this year, even with the injuries, is just maddening. This team should be doing so much better in our division.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are four reasons it is not:

The thought process that leads to believing Aaron Miles is a solution.
And Randy Winn.
And Jeff Suppan.
And the deadweight effects game after game of the LaRussa Tax.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hypothetical...If you were to catch #400, would you...

a) keep it, rubbing it every night until you fell asleep?
b) keep it, and put it on the mantle
c) give it back to albert, and insist on signed memorabilia in return
d) give it back to albert, and simply ask to congratulate him
e) give it back and ask nothing
f) sell it
g) sell it to albert
h) other

discuss…

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Aug 26, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

give it back and politely hand him another ball to sign

take a picture with him if he allows it, shake his hand, say congratulations, we love you, good luck to the team and leave him the hell alone

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

you could also wrap yourself around his calf, and beg him to sign a team-friendly extension this offseason… what, too much?

Padres' RFL for GG!

by stxcardsfan on Aug 26, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

ask for Yadi's autograph

that ought to cause some good nature clubhouse abuse

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, no.

You have to have Aaron Miles sign that. Then donate it to the Hall of Fame, where they will display it appropriately, and young kids will frustrate their fathers thereforth with questions of “Who is Aaron Miles, Daddy?”

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

this

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He can have his baseball

But he’ll blow me first!

/Mel Gibson’d

by lopey986 on Aug 26, 2010 10:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

yep--this is what I would want to do.

personally congratulate him and give him what he has rightfully earned.

perhaps I’d walk away with a “sign a team-friendly and stay here!”—to be determined.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Aug 26, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

I’m sure Pujols could care less about hr 400, and wouldn’t be concerned about getting it back. If you offered it to him, he may just sign it and hand it right back to you. 400 is great, but for a guy of Pujols’ level of talent who’s only been in the league 10 years, it probably doesn’t mean much yet. Now hr 500 may get his attention and hr 600 would definitely be a ball that Pujols would want.

Padres' RFL for GG!

by stxcardsfan on Aug 26, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen that Dove commercial with him in it?

He has a whole collection of milestone balls. I am thinking he’d want it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was about to say that

he has a bunch of those and i’m sure if you’d offer to give it back, he’d take it and even say “thanks mang”

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think choice E

I don’t think I’d ask for anything back. It’s enough of a pleasure just to watch him play the game. It’s his ball, I don’t need anything in return.

Of course, I’ll be at the game saturday with seats near the left field foul pole, so umm, if by chance I actually end up with the ball. Well, it’s easier to say what you would do in theory.

by stickman179 on Aug 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I'd want a signed bat in return

that’s the usual sort of thing people ask for and I’m sure he’d only be too happy to sort that out.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think a signed bat sounds greedy at all.......

compared to what I’d want for it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't think I'd give it away.....

If Albert wanted it, I’d probably give it back to him for some signed memorabilia. If not, I’d hold onto it. Probably worth more later.

by Stanley1 on Aug 26, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

d

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 26, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby update from today's mothership preview
Cardinals outfielder Colby Rasmus is still out with a sore right calf but is making progress and could play sometime in the Washington series.

Nats are throwing two lefties in the series (Fri and Sun) so Tony might only start him on Saturday.

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 10:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Long-time reader, first-time commenter

Have loved this site for a long time, guys, but I gotta ask one question:

Why does it seem like every other post starts off with how busy the writer/reporter is and how they don’t have time to write. Most of the time, you go on to write a fine, if not short, piece. For as bad as newspapers have become, very few columnists start off their piece say, “Don’t have time for a well-thought out column today, but …” If you’re busy, like most folks trying to make a living in this economy, why not bring more writers/editors into the fold?

Love the site as it helps keep me sane in Canada.

by archstanton on Aug 26, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

because this is the real world

and the guys that make sure there are posts daily don’t get paid to do this and just this. as far as i am concerned dan and tom and az and vep and rb can write whatever they feel like saying

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sit down sometime and see if you

can set aside 2 or 3 hours/day or more to make a serious, researched article. Then do it each day.

And if you have time to do that, well screw you hippie.

by sdrone on Aug 26, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really the point.....

But those guys aren’t doing it daily. One person a day, correct?

by Stanley1 on Aug 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan does 3 days a week I think

in fact possibly 4. RB does one (Wednesday), VEP ostensibly does one although I think Azru’s been doing his lately (Sundays?) and TomS does one (Mon or Tue I think).

Also, y’all are totally misunderestimatating the OP’s point. Read it again. He’s not complaining about the lack of content in the main posts. Comprehension, my fellow Redbird fans!

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaaand?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

no respondo

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

the OP is suggesting (in a rhetorical manner) that the quality of even the short front-page posts is sufficient that it is unnecessary and slightly self-flaggelatary (is that even a term?) to say “sorry I didn’t have much time to write this”. Isn’t that perfectly clear if you actually read his post?

He’s not shilling for editorship and he’s not criticising the quality of the front page material, over and above this one minor (constructive) suggestion. It’s really not necessary to chew him out over this if you misunderstood the thrust of his post.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Danup -> tuesday, thursday, friday

Tom → saturday
Azru → sunday
Me → monday (dan ends up covering for me a lot).

by vivaelpujols on Aug 27, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

the point is to not use a disclaimer

not very professional

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think what causes it

is that there’s a wider gap between this being a job and this being a responsibility than there is for newspaper columnists. Sometimes I have more pressing things come up and realize I won’t have time to do what is, for me, a full VEB post, and I feel bad about it because it’s a responsibility I’m shirking (hence the disclaimer) but I can’t really avoid it because it’s not a full-fledged job I’m blowing off.

Thanks for the kind words.

by DanUpBaby on Aug 26, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn foreigners….we will Americanize you yet.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

"a nervous romance"?

oh i’m thrilled, gotta rent it..
not

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think every Woody Allen flick

could be described as a nervous romance……As could most of his life.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd be nervous too if I was boinking my adopted daughter :-<

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which was bull.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Star Wars didn't have Christopher Walken. He makes any movie gold!

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean

by shadetree on Aug 26, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

indeed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

if only….

Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 26, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope that link works...

Youtube is blocked for me here at work.

Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Aug 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah!

I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Aug 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really...

I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Aug 26, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT?!?!

damn woody allen and his weidness

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hang on, I need to fix this so it describes every Woody Allen movie.

“it’s a movie about women […] and the [much older and creepy] neurotic jewish man who loves them.”*

*Except for What’s Up Tigerlily, which is a pulse-pounding spy flick about the search for a stolen egg salad recipe.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Whatever

Take the Money and Run is an accoplishment in American Slapstick Comedy

This film is presented as a documentary on the life of an incompetent, petty criminal called Virgil Starkwell. It describes the early childhood and youth of Virgil, his failure at a musical career, and his obsession with bank robberies. The film uses a voice over narrative and interviews with his family, friends and acquaintances.

by YesWeOquendo on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

he had a second wave of great movies in there - mighty aphrodite was good. i really like sweet and lowdown.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet and Lowdown is very enjoyable.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 26, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet and Lowdown is my favourite Allen film by a long stretch

I’ve found his work that I’ve seen to be very variable, but I’d say that’s one of my top 20 or so films.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean "even you"?

how dare you imply you are less educated than i am? ha

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

damn boy

that was hurtful
and you’re not that much younger

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's 12

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

months

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

removed from...

Colby: "There's been a whole lot of riff-raff going on"

by kalmavet on Aug 26, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

injury.

But he’s Progressing Nicely.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The site team's post are great ...

… and I have never seen a need to apologize for time or content. I don’t care if you have 10 minutes or 10 hours, you usually hit it dead on. It’s one of the best sports sites on the InterWebs (with the possible need of a little more Jeff Gordon ridicule every now and then). And honestly, as often as your research is “borrowed” by some of the regular media, you should be getting at least a royalty check or two. Don’t apologize for your time. Readers like me appreciate whatever you guys give us. Keep up the good work.

by archstanton on Aug 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I often wonder if the comments also get poached

for instance, in his weekly slobberfest of a chat, Joe Strauss, when answering a question on Infante’s chances at the battiing title, seemed to nearly echo the discussion here on that topic. I realize it could be just that he’s using the same stats, but it made me wonder…in the context of a chat, less time to do one’s own research, etc.

Colby: "There's been a whole lot of riff-raff going on"

by kalmavet on Aug 26, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha awesome

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't

no US passport yet

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha this is a fabulous idea!!

Colby: "There's been a whole lot of riff-raff going on"

by kalmavet on Aug 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

Joe should just put a unicorn on his Twitter page

by Mr. Wilson on Aug 26, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a great idea...

it would be like the “Joebaiting” that went on when FJM was in existence.

So…Straussbaiting, anyone? Maybe we can come up with a better title; something that involves surfing a tsunami or a “meister” or something dumb.

by goodymobb on Aug 26, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer...

…we not call it “Straussbaiting.” That just sound dirty.

Maybe “Unicorn tipping”?

by dronemc on Aug 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha...

good pt. That is kinda gross.

by goodymobb on Aug 26, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Straussterbaiting?

any better?

Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte

by BVHeck on Aug 26, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

straussspotting

for some reason sounds good

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR

by sportsman on Aug 26, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

guayzimi was the one responsible for Omar Infante's stats

so ill give him props

u’d think at the same time….the less research they do by reading veb they would focus on other things like exercise….bernie?

by guillermozeliak on Aug 26, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I don't really agree with the stuff about columnists etc.

It does seem like VEB editors mention their time-strapedness very often.

"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Aug 26, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it would be better to just give the article without the disclaimer. it’s like most people wouldn’t even know that it was a rushed article.

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, when I had art critiques in college

every time someone used a disclaimer for something creative it was always discouraged, no matter what the disclaimer was.

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay?

I’m just saying that, as a person who almost exclusively saves his posts to the last minute, I often don’t have time to be as detailed as I would like and I try to inform the reader of that.

by vivaelpujols on Aug 26, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's really just a matter of preference

I’d rather not read disclaimers, personally. I’d like to live under the illusion that the post is the best thing we can get.

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

we do after all live in the best of all possible worlds, dr. pangloss.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

basically what I am getting at is just when you are reading something, reading a lot of disclaimers gets old after a while. I’m sure everyone is busy and doesn’t have the amount of time they’d like to invest, but we don’t necessarily need to know that.

I do really appreciate all the good writing and info on this site though, don’t get me wrong. just saying, maybe don’t need to know every time that you don’t have enough time to do write or whatever.

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wasn't criticizing your request, just having a little fun about illusions.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

sorry about that heh

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should apologize.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

already did!

I’ve been bad

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think everyone here understands that:

a) there’s not always an awful lot to say about Cardinals baseball on a day-to-day basis, and
b) not everyone is able to spend upwards of an hour per week saying it.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

re: conspiracy

I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t a tad nervous now

by edgewin on Aug 26, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

He didn't stay to see Jimmy?

The thing about Kim Jong Il, is that the craziest of the Communists, think he’s fucking nuts.
// NO POLOTICS

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Chinese aren't cow-moo-nists anymoore....

they make moore bank than just about anyone else!

I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Aug 26, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has to visit people every once in a while

because he gets so lonely.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha, if it gets too hot to be in the us, i can always move back to europe

and just so you know, i’m taking the cardinals with me.
what sounds better – frankfurt cardinals, madrid cardinals, milan cardinals, oslo cardinals?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're going to use it, have the full city name:

Frankfurt am Main Cardinals.
Stormtrooping through the National League.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cosign

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

if i were a cardinal, i'd definitely vote for oslo.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly, this is an international Kim-Chi summitt.

Kim Jong Il is sharing tips on how to make the best stuff.

by dronemc on Aug 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean

by shadetree on Aug 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Remaining Schedule

favors the Reds by a long shot. Here are some differences going forward

Cincy has 2 more home games
Cards play 5 more road games (losing record on the road)

Cincy host
 - 4 with Dbacks (2nd worst road record), Astros for 3 and Brewers for 6
Cards host
 - Reds for 3, Padres for 4 (best road record) and end the season with 4 against resurgent Rockies

Cincy visits
- Cards for 3, Padres for 3 and Rockies for 4
Cards visit
- Nats for 4, Braves for 4 (best home record), Pirates for 3, Cubs for 3, and the one game makeup in FLA

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  

But the Cards play the tougher teams better.

We lose to the crap teams, so I look forwards to those Padres/Reds/Braves/Rockies games.

I swear to god I remember a time when the world made sense.

by dronemc on Aug 26, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

When was this?

The Whitey Herzog Years?

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball Prospectus

says the Giants are favored to win the wild card, barely, followed by the Cardinals and Phillies.

The Reds are favored to win the NL Central 75-25.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was generally amused when the graphics for this road trip came up...

And most experts were saying we had the advantage over Cincy because we were playing crap teams… but as most of us know playing crap teams is the Cardinals Kryptonite. I would have rather played 9 against the yanks than play a road series against sub 500 teams.

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean

by shadetree on Aug 26, 2010 11:16 AM EDT reply actions  

The Photoshop possibilities for this Albert pic are endless.

I would personally enjoy a speech bubble that said something like “Hey Brandon Phillips, scoreboard.”

Of course we would need to post this when we win the division. Which may mean this doesn’t get posted this year. DAMMIT THIS POST WAS SUPPOSED TO BE POSITIVE.

by Ghostrider520 on Aug 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

In kickball championships we had a sign that said

“we’re drunk and you’re losing”. At the end of the game my friend adro asked the guy why he didn’t hold up the sign and he said “well…you were never winning…”

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Aug 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Listen up --

Carp is delivering luggage over there, so get your asses in line.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Ump, you're ejected!"

I am sure the Walrus can play RF...

by Paulspike on Aug 26, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT:

So the Omaha Royals are moving out of Rosenblatt Stadium to a ballpark way out in the suburbs, the middle of a cornfield off a highway. In conjunction with this move, the franchise is having a “name the team” contest.

As I think “name the team” contests are hellalame, I tried to think up the stupidest name I possibly could. Actually, it was easy. Nebraska is known for corn, and every damn minor league team is either the Cats, Katz, Catz, Dogs or Dawgs.

So here you are, fans, your 2011 Omaha Corn Dogs!

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Aug 26, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

why not the omaha buffets, to honor the native son?

or, i suppose, the omaha bright eyes.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wanna know what's funny?

I’m a Chartered Financial Consultant, and I honestly asked myself,

“Huh? The dinner buffet was invented in Nebraska?”

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 26, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

in fairness, i think it's buffett.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think you're right.

The lack of capitalization also threw me for a loop, though I know that’s your thing.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 26, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I hear the White Sox are gonna pick up Manny

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean

by shadetree on Aug 26, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

New World Order?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Aug 26, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

A time of upheaval in wrestling

I remember being all like, “whoa, Razor Ramon isn’t really hispanic, and he’s in WCW now? And who’s this XPac guy who looks just like the 123 Kid?”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And where the he** is the Ultimate Warrior?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

And is he really Kerry Von Eric?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Aug 26, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

that took a few more years for him to show up on WCW

by saladdays on Aug 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

One Warrior Nation.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 26, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

/bronco buster

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Cueto pitches on the 4th
When asked if the Reds would consider juggling their rotation in order to skip Cueto in that series, manager Dusty Baker told the newspaper, “I don’t know yet. He’s going to have to pitch against them some time. They say time heals all wounds. Maybe it doesn’t.”

by swmofan on Aug 26, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

why don't you ask jason larue if time heals all wounds when you see him dusty? oh wait,

HE’S OUT FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

/buzz

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

carp hits the kicking girl with the first samsonite

busch stadium erupts in cheers and gives him a 15 minute standing ovation

alternative – distribute the baseballs you use for bp to the crowd and let them shower cueto and bp with them on their first at-bats

alternative – let sauce start the game and plunk cueto with a mild 99 mph in the ribs and when he’s tossed, let carp resume normal operations

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sauce would have to pitch to nine batters to get to Cueto though

Start with Hawk, get him through eight hitters, let Motte come in just for Cueto, THEN bring Carp in

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probability of beaning

>1, somehow.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some wounds take 60 days to heal

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cueto Should be Plunked on the Very First Pitch He Sees...

…and the umps should allow it. If this is not allowed to happen then there is no justice in baseball, and Carp should luggage him in the tunnel after the game.

I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Aug 26, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that concussions every actually heal.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

you a doctor or summin'?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Aug 26, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert Pujols

Does his best Johnny Cueto cornered impression

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that looks like something out of Guernica

is he getting HBP there or what?

Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.

by nota bene on Aug 26, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Baseball Mogul

Picked it up a few weeks back, Dan, per our discussion. Have to say it is a fantastic diversion to use whenever the real world Cards are letting me down…..which is to say I’m playing it almost daily.

by Merry CRasmus on Aug 26, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions  

No OOTP :)?

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did mention that one as well

Said that Mogul was a bit more manueverable for someone who is just dipping their toes in it, so that’s what I went with. Think he said OOTP provide a lot more realism in terms of 40 man management and things of that nature? Notice a lot of teams just load up their over the hill veterans in AAA in Mogul.

by Merry CRasmus on Aug 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah thats correct

OOTP is very realistic. So many options. I havent played BM but it does seem more manageable for someone just starting a baseball sim. OOTP isn’t too difficult either IMO.

BTW, I almost have the site for my OOTP league ready. I’ll let those you are interested know later today.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome

For anyone interested in the statistics of baseball and any interest in acting as a GM of a team OOTP is amazing. If you do pick it up let me know. Online leagues with actual human GMs are that much better.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

For those of you old enough to remember. . .

the Cold War era flick WarGames,

Baseball Mogul is Tic-Tac-Toe. . . .

OOTP is Global Thermonuclear War.

That’s overstating the difference a bit; BM is a fine game, but it’s statistical realism and financial model are not nearly as good as OOTP IMHO. Granted, it’s been a few versions since I played BM, but OOTP is far more adaptable and immersive.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And in fairness. . .

BM is probably more accessible and playable in the short term.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to be able to do the things available in OOTP and not Mogul

especially the Rule 5 draft, which I’ve always been way too fond of, but as it’s configured now the gain in enjoyment I’d get from its complexity is really marginal. OOTP’s interface just drove me nuts whenever I had, say, an hour to play something.

by DanUpBaby on Aug 26, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The interface has improved. . .

as have the statistical modelling, the financial modelling, and the draft pool modelling.

Perhaps more importantly, the new version (OOTP11) seems to be much less of a RAM-hog. Under some of the older versions, it would literally take 10-15 minutes to either (1) load an MLB-sized league with full minors, or (2) download an update to an on-league file.

If you have an extra few bucks lying around, you really might want to chack out 11; the rookie signing bonuses, arbitration, and addition of individual pitch ratings really have helped the game take a great leap.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should all chip in alittle to get DanUp OOTP

That way he can play in my league I’m starting :)

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: For those in the KC area

RT @BaconFestKC EARLY REGISTRATION CLOSES AT NOON TODAY! Walk-up registration will be open the day of the event! www.baconfestkc.com

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Aug 26, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

today around the majors

The Yanks and Rays are tied for first

The White Sox are 3.5 back from the Twins (sounds familiar)

The Rangers might be the first team to win a division

San Diego has the biggest lead in the NL for division title

it looks like there will be a dog fight between the Braves and Phillies

if we can’t win the division, it won’t be easy for a wild card with the Phils leading, and San Fran ahead of us… and the Rockies will probably be a factor also.

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

ot: this just got forwarded to me with subject "dinner"

beef patty, cheddar, bacon, hotdogs 25 min at 400 deg = turtle burgers. hmmmmm….

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

reminds of the Cosby Show -- Bacon Burger Dogs

For those of you young-uns or d-dee, the Cosby Show was kind of a big deal TV show in the 80s.

by OCCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

young-uns or d-dee

aahahaa

actually i saw quite a few episodes of the cosby show in germany – they run it during the daytime

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

dubbed?

i have a terrific image of theo’s mouth opening and a stream of german coming out.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course dubbed

germans dub everything, their words are too long for subtitles
until you put Jugendarbeitsschutzgesetz on the screen, you’re already 3 sentences behind

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

n the 80s.

Who the hell is Motley Crue?

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Aug 26, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty cool.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gross...

:=8P

I Hate Jason Marquis!!!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Aug 26, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you captain obvious
BJRains
  
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..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

basically we are reaching the point where we need two out of the three of these things to happen

the easy one first: start racking up a lot of wins vs. bad teams. we haven’t done this yet.

second: Reds starting rotation collapses. we have seen possible signs of this vs the Giants

third: Reds go from slightly lucky BABIP to unlucky BABIP

if 2 out of 3 of these criteria are matched, I still like the Cardinals chances. it’s too bad it’s reached the point that we need a majority of these to happen though.

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing stops that kind of density.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

duct tape

over his mouth and tape his fingers together so he can’t tweet

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slim-Fast

"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10

by vico on Aug 26, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, they need to start scoring more runs than the other team.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you can't do that consistently,

you’re not going to win many baseball games.

Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.

by nota bene on Aug 26, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

so I heard Luhnow on the radio

he said
1. he knows Amaury Marti Cazana real well
2. Amaury Marti Cazana is an enigma

TRUTH!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Did he explain why they won't let Amaury come save us in September?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was all for it. went on quite a while about him being a baseball rat and performing at all levels

not to mention improving his baserunning and defense
but the last quotes from TLR said not really.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, I saw some guy walking from a bus stop with a pink bedazzled Cardinals hat.

he might have been carrying, so I didn’t honk at him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: This a question for the medical people in our midst.

Do any of you know about how much physical therapy helps with non-diabetic neuropathy? I’ve been trying to research it and haven’t gotten any definitive answers. Thanks.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 26, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

You need Scoot.

Sounds like it’s right up his alley.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I figured either he or hazel could ferret something out.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 26, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can ask my wife when she gets home

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Aug 26, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 26, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends on how bad it is

and what the cause is. Need more details.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Aug 26, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My dad has had it developing for about 10 years.

It started sometime after his triple bypass. They just told us that it happens in a certain percentage of people that have heart surgery. The numbness has gotten up to about his mid-thigh in both legs and at least the forearm area of his arms. He just talks about his legs being weak and stumbles a lot.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 27, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

per Leach


link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I think you can make out his reflection.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kind of creepy, actually.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost jumps out of the screen...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

what, Carp didn't push for Boog?

or why the hell is he sitting all of a sudden?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

doghouse

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Per Tony he is not sitting Boog

He is trying to put out a winning team.

by OCCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the fuck does that mean?

why did we go dumpster diving to improve defense if all we’re doing is simultaneously decreasing the defense? i have to believe that floppy at 3B + Boog at SS is better than Feliz at 3B, Floppy at SS. RIGHT?? but i guess, what the fuck do i know

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is my guess that Boog is injured.

That’s the only explanation that makes sense.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Aug 26, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

it’s the matchup or so was said

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can that be?

Zimmerman has a grand total of 91 career innings.

Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.

by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure tony will clarify in pre or post game interviews if asked

and besides, since when are you expecting to understand tlr decisions?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I know

But even this is nuts by his nutty standards.

It defies even Tony-Logic.

Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.

by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would think that if that were true, Tony would say so

besides i never saw him do anything that looked injurious. i guess we have to make up for the pit of offense that is feliz and substitute floppy for boog. EVEN THOUGH BOOG IS HITTING VERY WELL IN THE SECOND HALF.

FUCK

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea

Here is the quote from yesterday which is what I was referencing

Felipe Lopez, though struggling at bat again, will play shortstop instead of Brendan Ryan, who is missing his second start of this series.

“He’s not getting a night off,” said La Russa. “He’s just not playing. I’m trying to play a team that wins the game.”

by OCCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's awful

Ryan’s been worth a win in the field already this year.

Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.

by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm suprised Carp didn't get Boog in there

That whole “winning team,” is bullshit….they’ve lost the last two games under his “winning team,” and Boog is ridiculous in the field.

Wait until Lopez makes an error behind Carp. If you thought he was mad with Brendan having the wrong glove, you haven’t seen anything yet.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

…there are times when Tony tries to play a team that won’t win the game? That explains all the PT for Miles, Suppan, Fat Miles, Winn, etc.

by dronemc on Aug 26, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winn hasn't gotten that much playing time lately

and he still doesn’t belong in the same group with those others

by saladdays on Aug 26, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gawd, sometimes we jump on the slightest thing here.

Look, my overall point is a valid one. And just because Winn is better than the troika of goateed roster-spot wastes doesn’t mean I’d want to see him start over any of our 4 other outfield options. Holliday, Clobby, Jay and Craig should all be ahead of him on the depth chart right now.

by dronemc on Aug 26, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

raz is still sitting till this weekend

but progressing nicely
boog is mia

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

like... drag the rivers?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the food court.

Rasmus out until Saturday, I think someone said earlier.

Boog? Don’t know.

by TBender on Aug 26, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoever did this was really anal retentive

used a ruler.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

not enough

one seven is crossed, the other isn’t

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

different handwriting

that means someone… probably on the Cardinals side … is tearing their hair out and about to snap

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that they have Rodrigue^2 playing catcher

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

two rodrigues behind the plate?

but Lopez is bigger than everyone else

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even without Raz or Boog

I still think we have better players at 6-8 positions. They have us beat only at one position. Maybe two toss-up positions (only because I really don’t know anything about Desmond, and I don’t know how Kennedy’s doing this year)

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you're saying we should win?

descriptive or prescriptive should?

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll align with Dan...prescriptive

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desmond

> Lopez
> Boog

He’s had a great second half, and is a pretty hot prospect. Garry Templeton, maybe (minus the attitude, and with eras adjusted for a bit more power)?

by SouthsideCardsFan on Aug 26, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

BECAUSE TLR

   MatthewHLeach Because many have asked: TLR doesn’t like the matchup for Ryan vs. J.Zimmerman. So it’s Lopez at SS. 3 minutes ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yuck

Posted above, but that’s just ridiculous. Zimmerman has 91 innings pitched, threw one game against the Cards in which he gave up 5 runs in 5 innings.

B-R Link.

Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.

by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd for deliberately obtrusive, goold-style obscenity euphemism.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the whole Boog sitting the bench for no reason thing.

Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.

by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

right. shit.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

right. (seed.)

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, (intimate relations).

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So that makes "hat" a euphemism for "ass" then?

Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.

by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL rec'd

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish TLR would just come out and say "he's in the doghouse" or whatever.

"I'll be in the conversation at the end of the year." Adam Wainwright

by spfldbird on Aug 26, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes please!

Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.

by lightbulb on Aug 26, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think

There’s a box big enough to hold the amount of dice it would take to make up TLR’s infinite number of double-switches, matchups, and whether or not the grocery store had his hair dye thus determining whether Boog sits or not.

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought someone fanposted the tony dodecahedron lineup generator last year.

y2s?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was Fritz...hang on.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

My bad....

It was Flim.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, this dodecahedron of suck - with miles, feliz, winn, etc., could really be the "bop-it 2" of home lineup creation.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Aug 26, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing personal against Craig.....

And I know it won’t sit well on the board, but I don’t like the kid’s swing. I don’t think it lends to being very productive or consistent at this level.

That is just my opinion. Nothing but time will tell.

by Stanley1 on Aug 26, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the more i watch him,

the more i agree. i don’t think it necessarily precludes him from being productive at this level, but it’s a pretty ugly upper cut swing and i think it precludes him from putting up the kind of numbers he has put up in the minors here

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Aug 26, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he looks OK personally

he’s going through a rough stretch and it can’t be easy playing your first full-time season. He’s always been considered a guy with a slightly long swing in the minors IIRC and he’s made it work. There are a number of people here who agree with you, though.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Aug 27, 2010 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

in case someone didn't hear
MLBSTLCardinals
  
The Cards/Marlins rainout from 8/8 will be made up on 9/20 @ #Marlins. Game time: 3:10. 4 minutes ago via web

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

YES...Last off day of the year is the 2nd.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

[weep]

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

so over

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 26, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

over

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Aug 26, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

oush

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Aug 26, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

over

Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.

by nota bene on Aug 26, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not want to watch this shock video

Do you remember that spelling bee you won in the first grade? Rock? "R-O-K"?

by jd is legend on Aug 26, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 game sweep

would be very very nice

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

well Randy Winn is batting 5th so....

Colby: "There's been a whole lot of riff-raff going on"

by kalmavet on Aug 26, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Aug 26, 2010 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

re: winn 5th

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Aug 26, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's almost as bad as Feliz 5th

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction
it’s almost as bad as Feliz 5th

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

AJ warming with the bullpen

He slacked off and only jogged half the warning track.

by ubeddie on Aug 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

dfa!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

never thought I would ever say this

but seriously, GO CUBS! Votto doesn’t like you btw…

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Excuse Me

But do I have Barbacoa in my teeth?

by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 26, 2010 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Listening to an NPR show right now where they're saying

Lou Gehrig might not have had Lou Gehrig’s disease. Some scientists in Boston (same group that did the study on former football players’ head injuries recently) are saying that some medical problems associated with recurrent head trauma can look very similar to ALS. And apparently Gehrig took quite a beating – one time he was knocked unconscious for five minutes after being hit in the head, and he came back and played the next day “with a huge lump on his head and a bad headache,” thereby keeping his streak alive.

Link to the program here.

by BTown Birds fan on Aug 26, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

so Lou Gehrig's disease is actually just called stubborness?

shit, I think I might have spelled that wrong, haven’t written that word in quite some time. or maybe it’s just one of those words that looks wrong when you write it but it’s actually correct.

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe post concussion syndrome

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Aug 26, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, both

"Nah….He’s an infielder. Second base…..I played second base, how hard can it be?"

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 26, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

LARUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEE

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boog highlights!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 26, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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