Game 122 Overflow Thread - A Tour
by azruavatar on Aug 23, 2010 9:14 PM EDT
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Tour Guide: Do you know what this is?
VEBer: By gum, it's a win streak!
Tour Guide: WRONG! It's the most amazing, fabulous, sensational win streak in the whole world.
VEBer: What's so fab about it?
Tour Guide: This little piece of game is a three-game win streak.
Dan McLaughlin: [Burp]
Tour Guide: No Bud. But I haven't quite got it right yet.
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the arch rocks
but i would never have the nerve to go on the elevator of that thing – i hate heights way too much.
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
its like riding in a miners cart ...not so bad and the view is awesome.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
especially now that's it's rusting & about to fall down
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
5 people jammed into a sardine can
But the view is awesome.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
I love the arch.
When I’m in StL for long periods of time, I often forget about it. And then every once in a while I look up and am all Holy Crap, we have a massive, beautiful sculpture in our skyline, and that just rocks.
by peach concrete on Aug 23, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i hear a lot of people are embarrassed by it because they think thats all there is to the STL
of course those people are assclowns
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Even if that was all to St. Louis, it makes the town pretty damn cool.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
the outfield shots of Busch III are so fucking sweet
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
Well. It could be 2am where he's at.
Just sayin’
never end a sentence with a preposition "Well it could be 2am where he’s at bitch "
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Aug 23, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
was going to say located, but was too many letters to type on this laptop.
Now I went and typed it anyways. Curse you!
so right i was in a hurry
"Thats fucking Little League shit , if you're going to flip the bat , I'm going to flip your helmet next time " Steve Kline at Jimmy Rollins in his rookie year.
by riftraftredbird on Aug 23, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
missed another comma
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
It's 10:49 in newfoundland.
So yes. I always go by Newfoundland time.
by peach concrete on Aug 23, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
listen to this woman, she's smrt & stuff
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
it's never too early, or too late to start drinking
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
sorry, I can't let this go quite yet
Talk to me in the 6th…
when it’s 6-5 Cardinals and pork chop is pitching with the bases loaded.
Fire La Russa!
by guayzimi on Aug 23, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
understandable consider the way the year has gone. good thing it did not come to that/
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
7-2 and on the ropes versus the Pirates...
is 6-5 versus everyone else.
I feel vindicated in my hate.
Fire La Russa!
My, but you're a cheerful bastard.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
dude
you made a prediction, own it.
Lohse was not spectacular, but 2 runs over 5 1/3 is not exactly bad either. I don’t care if it’s the Pirates.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
what, no second round pick in 2012?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
if he's a second rounder, then he's not as exciting as we thought
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
has Feliz altered his swing or is it just that he is getting lucky?
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Uncertain if he changed swing, but I'd guess not in such a short time.
It’s pretty safe to say it’s luck, and unsustainable long term. But I’d be okay with it being at this unsustainable level for a few more months.
Ryan Doumit, Right Fielder
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
sort of
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
who has Kyle's range out there
it’s just an unfair comparison. it’s like saying Mike Cameron isn’t as good as Willie Mays defensively. he’s still damn good.
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
THEY FOUND ALLEN CRAIG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
what are the pirates doing with a LHP in there?
well, i guess there was very little chance of winning anyway
I'm not trolling, just being sarcastic.
don't worry, that wasn't a strike boog
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions
i didn't even think about it, but you're right
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
ON WHAT F'IN PLANET IS THAT A STRIKE???
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Feliz safe at home!
hahahahahah
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
note to rest of team: here's how to slide
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
now 2 for 3
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Boog RBI . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
i love baseball sometimes
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
at least feliz is not slow
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
HAHA
FSNPitt announcer,
Fliez just came in & scored in the back door
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Great Jimmie Witherspoon blues, "Backdoor Man" lyrics not suggestive of baseball, however
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
but that doesn't make any sense
what’s funny about her saying that feliz scored in the backdoor?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
save Albert a rap here, Jon
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
oh Allen,,,
that puts the Cards in the lead for outs on bases doesn’t it?
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
depends
who was leading us and how many outs on the bases did they have?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i have no idea, i just remember Bernie writing about it recently & the Cards were up close to the lead
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
oops
missed the over flow…
So we got to see a veteran slide and a rookie slide… :D
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
So if Votto goes 0-5 tonight,
AP takes the batting average lead (.31948) to Votto’s (.31935)
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
is he starting again? i thought he was laid up with a bad back.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
i'm only 2hs from GABP, it can be whatever a large amount of medium sized unmarked bills want it to be
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
by gdm426 on Aug 23, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, Votto's in the lineup
batting third
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
SUCK IT, CINCINNATI !!!!
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i hope he's more than able
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
by sportsman on Aug 23, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
time for some Big Bang...I'm a sucker for that show... go cards. finish strong and may Miles and Winn stay on the bench.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
stay around for Albert's AB
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
i'm so pissed they are moving it to thursday in the fall
ya like i’m gonna miss Community CBS, morans
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Where are they putting it time slot wise?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Mike & Molly about two fat people who find love at a over eaters meeting
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
That's going to last about 4 episodes...
But time slot… 7pm Central 8pm Central? I just assumed CBS would keep the Survivor CSI lineup that has worked pretty well for them for awhile.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Lorrie is behind it so its supposed to be pretty funny, but we'll see, i doubt it's funny
CBS moved Survivor & the CSI’s around because those audiences are getting older. so they felt their line up needed a big shake up
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
yeah that's going to be a bad idea...
anytime you move shows around it ends very poorly.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
they didnt have anything this season to replace them
or CSI NY & Miami might have been cancelled. if they at least don’t hold their viewers they will be cancelled
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
ya it's an abomination, i can't see it lasting pasted this year
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
they must be getting . . . (puts on sunglasses)
killer ratings. YEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHH
The Susquehanna Hat Company killed my father!
by Donovan Hamstain on Aug 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hence why TiVo is good times.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Damn near right there with the wheel.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is funny
cause ratings haven’t quite caught up to that yet.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I'm pointing and laughing as hard as I can right now.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Aug 23, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Take solace in the fact I'm babysitting bridge painters tonite...
while you get to sleep, or drink, or talk to attractive women, or anything but hang out with painters.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I say you try to combine at least two of them...
your choice.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
With that
I am off to sit on the side of the road and watch a bridge get painted green… gotta love my life.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
do you ever yell to them,
“make it greeeen”?
The Susquehanna Hat Company killed my father!
by Donovan Hamstain on Aug 23, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Do you require six coats of paint?
by peach concrete on Aug 23, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sadly only 3
only one of which is green…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
rec, rec, rec, rec, rec, rec ,rec
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
....
did someone say GDM’s dream job?
prob very nsfw
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
I could handle that, if I were single.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
you don't remember this but this is the biggest move since NBC & ABC put Frasier & Home Improvement
up against each other back in the early 90’s. i hated that because my dad was a huge Frasier fan & i had to watch it. i don’t know how i got through it without tv on the internet
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Yeah...
go back and watch Home Improvement now… doesn’t hold up very well.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
yet Frasier is still awesome
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
ya what happened to me? i used to hate that show now it's funny!
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
it's always been funny
one of my favorite shows ever.
I hated when we had to watch HI. Of course I learned to like HI
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
So how have things looked tonite?
Stupid working nites again not lettiing me watch the game.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
they'd look a lot better with booze, hot dogs, nachos & brownies
but so far i can’t complain. too much
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Tabata's pretty good at baseball
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
If I catch #400 next inning
I own the world!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 23, 2010 9:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I still have that Cubs game to get to you.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
STFU AL
if the wind up is counter productive, please explain why it is used
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
yes he did
reasoning: “It’s counterproductive because everything up until you get to the point where you are in the set position is moving away from the plate.”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Is Boggs gonna pitch another inning?
Or do we get Winn coming in at CF, to take the pitcher’s spot, and new reliever at #2?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 23, 2010 9:32 PM EDT reply actions
I dont know why the Cardinals officials are always ripping on Craig's defense
Hes not a world beater out there, but he looked average, at least
Chris Duncan, anyone?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i'll give you 17 internets.
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
Dear Cardinals
please do enough getting on base to give Albert another AB tonight
ITS COLBERIN' TIME
actually this is more your speed
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
by gdm426 on Aug 23, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
no words . . .
should have sent poet, etc.
The Susquehanna Hat Company killed my father!
by Donovan Hamstain on Aug 23, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Matheny would be pissed
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
He's having a problem with his back or hip and just trying to stay in the game
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Aaron Miles!!!!!
I can die now Lord! My life is complete!!!!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 23, 2010 9:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
...doompitty-doo.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 23, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
dunkity-deedient
The Susquehanna Hat Company killed my father!
by Donovan Hamstain on Aug 23, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, azru
in this parody, i think danny mac should be the one bloating and turning shades of some bright color. if anything, VEBers would be veruca salt (but MO-mmy, i want a top-tier bat NOW!). otherwise, fabulous work.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 23, 2010 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
I'm glad the allusion was apparent to some.
I was worried at the subtlety. I will take your allegorical criticisms under consideration for the next overflow.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Is this a reference to Veruca Salt the band or something?
I’m confused.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 9:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
get off my internet lawn.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 23, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
leave me, right here, i don't wanna go
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Such a great song...
I miss 90’s alternative
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
they still preform in the STL don't they?
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
I wouldn't know.
I know they’re from Chicago so I think I may have heard of them kicking around here if they’re still together in some form.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Joe Posnanski writes a bout Adam Wainwright, i feel happy.
There are others who probably deserve to be higher on the list considering their entire careers — Terry Steinbach, Carlos Lee, John Montefusco to name just three — but I’ll go with Wainwright here because he’s SO good and he shows every sign of being this good for years to come.
I have written here often about how so many people overrate pitcher victories, which have become a badly outdated statistic that every year (as starters throw fewer and fewer innings) shows less and less about a pitcher’s true value. That said, I do think Adam Wainwright would have the right to feel a bit cheated by the new era. He led the league in victories last year and finished third in the Cy Young voting. And this year, he is again leading the league in victories (and ERA) and the general feeling among the stats community seems to be that Roy Halladay is having an even better year (well, you know, Halladay’s xFIP is better, and according to Fangraphs Halladay’s 6.4 WAR is markedly better than Wainwright’s 5.0).
From my experience. Wainwright is a terrific guy and quite advanced in his understanding of the game. But, let’s face it, if he leads the league in victories again and loses the Cy Young again, well, you couldn’t blame the guy if he went all Jack Morris on us.
The Wainwright home run, incidentally, came in his 17th appearance — he came in to relieve Tyler Johnson, and he homered off Noah Lowry in San Francisco. He has hit five home runs in his career now — that’s already tied for eighth among active players. The most home runs for an active pitcher? You should know: Carlos Zambrano, and it’s not even close. He has 20. Livan Hernandez is second with nine.
ITS COLBERIN' TIME
by Aranathor on Aug 23, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I still think Halladay deserves the Cy
Just because of the differene in ballparks.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If only hitting stats were accounted for
like in the Gold Glove consideration…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
hitting is considered in fWAR
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
oh, think you are right
they have a separate tab for pitcher batting, and they don’t seem to sum them.
Anyway, so far this year, AW has been worth 0.6 WAR over halladay with the bat. So it definitely matters…
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
But should it matter towards the Cy Young?
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
in the NL, I'd say yes.
if nothing else, it helps to make his high “W” numbers actually mean something, since he’s contributing more to the offense.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
okay, so game's pitched at home don't matter?
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of like your face
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Aug 23, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
just a different way of saying Halladay has been a little bit better
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
If Waino finishes the year with and a sub-2.00 ERA
i don’t know how the voters can say no (obviously provided Halladay doesn’t also)
There is a feeling that Halladay has underwhelmed somewhat for the Phils, journalists who overestimate the difference between the AL and NL (Rob Neyer) think that Halladay should be pitching like Bob Gibson, Randy Johnson and Satchell Paige rolled into one.
ITS COLBERIN' TIME
/ hopes Hudson wins it
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
Plus for a guy like Wainwright, who has outperformed his FIP every year
I think there is a legitimate question as to if FIP is representative of his true talent level. There are certain guys who consistently outperform their peripherals for whatever reason.
Like Javier Vasquez!
Only, y’know, the opposite
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
That's irrelevant
Even using ERA, Halladay still comes out way ahead given his advantage in innings pitched and the fact that he’s in a hitters park to Wainwright’s pitchers park.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
So do you think we should just go by ERA?
Because then we would be systematically biased in favor of pitchers on teams with good defense.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think YOU needto come up with something that's perfect
you can do it, jerk!
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
by mattyfrommo on Aug 23, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
terrible movie
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
by mattyfrommo on Aug 23, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No, not only ERA
but I think it shouldnt just be ignored. If a pitcher has consistently shown he can outperform his FIP, I think there is a legitimate argument that there are reproducible skills present that FIP ignores.
FIP should still be used in conjunction, though.
WIn/Loss is useless, but ERA still captures useful information.
I agree
Would you be opposed to ERA adjusted by quality of team defense?
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
That sounds pretty reasonable
but then the question of the veracity of current defensive statistics raises its head.
It’s a tough question to get perfect.
Exactly
Which is why you shouldn’t disparage people who want to look at FIP, which completely takes defense out of the equation. Yes it takes out some BABIP skill, but that skill is usally dwarfed by K, BB and HR skill (and it’s also correlated with it, if you get me).
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I just like taking all of the information together, in context.
The more, the better. Sure there will be some noise, but I feel like Id rather mistakenly attribute a little performance to actual luck/defense than the other way around.
Just because most pitchers behave a certain way doesn’t mean they all do; there are always outliers. It would really suck to be one and not get credit for it.
That said, if a pitcher has a radical split between his FIP and ERA, or his FIP’s and ERA’s usually match pretty well, Id go with FIP as more reliable.
Okay, but you are missing my point
Sure there will be some noise, but I feel like Id rather mistakenly attribute a little performance to actual luck/defense than the other way around.
It’s the other way around. By using ERA instead of FIP, you are mistakenly attributing a lot of a performance to defense/luck and a little to actual skill. Not to mention that ERA will always be biased in favor of pitchers with good defenses.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I must ahve worded that poorly
I meant Id rather err on the side of getting most of the skill into the equation and allowing some noise in as a result.
I think we’re mostly on the same page here; I just don’t think that using ONLY FIP is the best idea. I like to use all the numbers in conjunction to form a more complete picture.
I agree
But I would weight FIP a lot more than ERA because I think ERA – FIP includes a lot more noise than skill.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Verrry interesting. Thx.
“Fewer runs allowed is more important to the voters than true talent.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
Not sure it's humanly possible to go
0-34 with a 0.5 era. But, point stands.
Rich Harden could do that
if he were pitching for the D’Backs….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
on second thought
never mind, that would mean he’d make 34 starts….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
by nota bene on Aug 23, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ehh, you'd have to make like.
68 starts. Since 0.5 era…so many no decisions leaving with 0 runs allowed.
Mm. Right.
Unearned runs totally slipped my mind, for some reason. I blame it being 11pm and me having far too many drinks of the alcoholic variety.
Yeah I would weight FIP more heavily too.
If only defensive stats were more reliable, especially over smaller samples, this would be much more precise.
ERA isn't perfect, but I sort of split the average between ERA and FIP when evaluating what 'has' been done so far in a season.
I use xFIP moreso for looking at future performance. If you split the difference between ERA and FIP, how does the NL stack up? I’d assume Halladay still first, but not by much?
splitting the average of ERA and FIP is still biased towards teams with good defense
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Slightly, yes.
But while I love FIP, I don’t simply want to look at ‘only’ FIP when evaluating the Cy. There are small things that a pitcher can do to influence performance that can’t be measured by FIP, Does it have a large benefit? Well, no. But it’s still there, even if tiny.
I agree
But those small things are dwarfed by random noise in the ERA – FIP split.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably. 75/25 split? I dunno.
It’s just something I do as a rough measurement for myself. I don’t have a vote where I’d take things seriously to determine things. I just like to add a little bit of ERA factor into there, for the ‘small things’ even if it is defense dependant.
maybe
but wainwright isn’t trying to strike everyone out, he is pitching to his defense. So why penalize him for pitching to his defense?
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who deserves to be in the conversation.
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I don't understand that feeling
Halladay’s ERA this year is 2.16, which is a good 1 run lower than it was the past few years in Toronto. So he’s improved more than expected by moving to the NL.
He’s on pace for like 270 innings this year, and with a 2.16 ERA in a hitters park. Waino is on pace for like 245 innings this year, with a 2.06 ERA in a pitchers park.
I don’t really see how you could justify Wainwright over Halladay without using W/L record.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It's close enough of a wash
And I like Waino and Halladay plays for a douche team
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How is it close enough of a wash?
Let’s do ERA – league ERA / 9 * Innings pitched. So basically Runs Above Average.
Waino: 45.5
Halladay: 47.5.
If you add in park adjustments, Halladay has at least a 5 run lead over Wainwright, which is pretty large. Not to mention that yeah, Wainwright’s BABIP is much lower than Halladay’s implying that the Cardinals have played better defense for him than the Phillies have for Halladay.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
now adjust it for batters faced
since we are adjusting for whatever park we are playing in.
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Naw.
I’ll just use the non adjusted numbers. I’m okay with that. But if you want to adjust for a park factor, might as well adjust each performance against a league average lineup.
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Why adjust for park factors
adjusting for park factors is like saying, well he did good, but here is how he would have done in a neutral park. Why not take that one step farther and say but here is how he would have done against a neutral park.
We are comparing players, and trying to level the field by removing the defense and park. Why not remove the batters?
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I wonder which is park in the ML is closest to "neutral"?
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I'm opposed to all of it...
when you look backward, just tell me how many runs crossed the plate. The pitchers defense and park are part of his environment – we want to know how the pitcher pitched given his environment.
Fire La Russa!
by guayzimi on Aug 23, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know
But why do I have to adjust for batters just because I adjusted for park factors? You’re okay with selectively choosing which things to adjust for (using ERA instead of RA). Why can’t I?
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
we can use RA
Holliday is allowing .42 RA/IP
Wainwright is allowing .26 RA/IP
I’m serious on the question why doesn’t anyone adjust for batters faced.
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BP does, or did
been a while since I paid for their stats.
Not sure if it was useful or not. There were some articles about it, but mostly just seemed like a gimmick. Over the course of ~1000 batters faced in a season, it evens out.
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or that adam has given up easier to field BIP.
or that he’s done a better job of fielding his position (AW has turned 5 GIDP’s on bunt attempts- Halladay, zero)
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Sure that probably
And that the Cardinals defense has been better than the Phillies defense.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Halladay has never had to pitch with Miles at second
Lopez at third, and Stavinoha in right field.
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Halladay also never got to pitch with Yadier behind the dish
Ryan at short, Pujols at first, Rasmus at second and Ludwick at right.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
wait...
Rasmus can play second? That solves a lot. Jay in Center and craig in right.
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think about it...
would you rather have rasmus at second or Miles? I better rasmus could play a better second starting today. (even while hurt)
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cardinals are -2.5 runs defensively by UZR on the year
Phillies, -9.2. So about 7 runs difference between the teams. Not really significant, when you consider that AW/Halladay have pitched about 20% of their teams’ innings.
Atlanta is actually -16.2, FWIW, so Hudson should theoretically be hurt by his defense, not helped.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
so Halliday's defense
has basically given him 1.5 earned runs this year.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
well, but AW's been about 3 runs better
fielding his position. So you could say Halladay has given himself 1.5 earned runs this year. Or more.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
and of course, they might have saved him 5 runs
and cost, say, jamie moyer 6.5 runs, and it looks the same.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
We all know UZR can be flawed
Besides, it’s quite possible that the Cardinals defense has played better under Wawinwright compared to the rest of the team, especially since Tony usually puts out the A lineup with Waino.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting about Zambrano
The year he hit 6 HRs (2006), the most in his career, was also his second-worst BA year (.151), not including his first year in the majors when he only had 6 appearances. He’s got a lifetime .236 BA. Not that I care about this loser….it’s just interesting.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 23, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
don't look now, but the hot physical therapist lady is on BBTN
with Stephen Strasburg’s elbow. or a reasonable depiction thereof. but who knows, it might be his elbow.
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Really?? You think Bell is hot?
Methinks, not so much. She’s cute, but not hot.
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 23, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
the classic analyst-therapist combination
The Susquehanna Hat Company killed my father!
by Donovan Hamstain on Aug 23, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
like so?
The Susquehanna Hat Company killed my father!
by Donovan Hamstain on Aug 23, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the ones who know their anatomy.
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why are you watching the WWL when a Cards game is on?
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I can watch both at once.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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what else can you do at the same time?
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this is a family blog
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
i've commented with this about six times
and no one seems to get the joke.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I get it
CDGAFITWSS
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
by mattyfrommo on Aug 23, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
it was never a family blog
well, not since gdm signed up
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
by mattyfrommo on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
GDM & family are like oil & water
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
what about fang
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not like I stole a gif.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
sartorial check... Boog with his off-the-bench no-socks look.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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Man, we're wasting all our runs
Does nobody think of Pythagorean record on this team?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
moar liek roidstista
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I know SSS and all that
but the current Feliz is much better than my expectations of him. Lets hope he can sustain his unsustainable performance!
I thought Craigen went, as well...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
The chick in front of me is texting
Octavio Dotel?!? Strange!!!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 23, 2010 9:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
don't ask. dotel.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 23, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
She has red blackberry curve
With a Red Sox background and here texts were from Octavio Dotel. Bizarre!
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 23, 2010 9:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
holy crap, it's got to be depressing to be a Pirates fan
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
The only place with less fans in the stadium is Florida.
Probably is a pretty crappy gameday experience.
One would think but apparently they've adjusted to losing:
One is a perennial favorite with great players in the thick of the playoff chase, the other is the Pirates.
Fire La Russa!
i'd love to see all the charts together
has SBN figured this out yet?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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rams is a classic example of fan voting
its the expectations not the actual happiness with team
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 23, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
oh fuck the circus is back, dammit wtf are they doing here?
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First base.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
"I'm not your bitch," Molina told Phillips.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no my sis & two nephews showed back up
they were here earlier & she backed into my bro’s car. the 5yr old is autistic & he’s uncontrollable & loud & always breaking stuff
i really need to GTFO of here like you all don’t even know
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Sweet we are still winning and Pujols may get another at bat.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
John Rooney: Who's going to play second? Miles has already been used!
Oh john sometimes you crack me up!
ITS COLBERIN' TIME
Jon Jay
puttin the ball into play
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
Mr. Anderson is booed because Albert is not up.
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and neither does albert
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
or... bryan anderson
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 23, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't maintaing a super-high BABIP for almost 200 at-bats
move his true-talent BABIP projection upward somewhat? Maybe he is capable of maintaining something like a .330-.340 figure.
New rule
you can’t talk about BABIP without talking about the player’s batted ball profile
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
Well his batted ball profile would suggest around a .300-.310 currently
given league averages. I would adjust that upwards somewhat based on his speed. Obviously his current level isn’t sustainable, but he did have a .348 figure at Memphis this year with a similar batted ball profile. He’s had a few high numbers in the past, too.
I also wonder about the batted ball classifications
it can make a big difference to have a ball be classified as a fly when it was more a of a “fliner” type
and take note of Defensive positioning
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way too many
try 50 at bats and listen how the ball sounds so you know if they are hitting it hard
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
It will adjust his BABIP projection by maybe 5 points
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Right around .300 I would say
Given that he had no playing in the bigs prior and minor league BABIP’s transtale horribly to the majors.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I would think it would be at least a little above league average
given his speed and typical batted ball profile
crap crap crapcrapcrap
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 23, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
wait
Craig is going to play second. this is going to be awesome. this is going to be SO AWESOME.
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
never mind
maybe 3B though
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
by tehzachatak on Aug 23, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He is "the one".
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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
very good, Mr. Anderson.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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maybe he'll get a start now?
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
maybe Yadi will sit during a blowout!
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yadi has to play 1B
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Less tiring than catching
and it lets Anderson get more time behind the dish.
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Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 23, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This HAS to be the high point of Anderson's career.
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by StanTheManFan on Aug 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
let's not score all our runs at once.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT reply actions
so they're like rations?
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 23, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
NO...I want more PUjols...TOny you *(&)^
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
What kind of douche manager...
doesn’t know his guy is fighting for the triple crown?
Fire La Russa!
hate to say it but Pujols dogs may be barking.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
We play the Pirates two more games.
Pretty sure he’ll get his shot.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This week.
Pretty sure they play the Pirates three times per week for the rest of the season.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
I was just meaning that he has a pretty good shot at it here directly without pushing it.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
possibility that the rainfall
means he’s pulled for Don’t Injure Yourself reasons.
still annoying.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
tony didn't want it to conflict
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds logical. but i wanted to see Pujols pick up more rbis and hit .320
You fit into me
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a fish hook
an open eye
clearly fans need to do something more violent than booing.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
effing west coast
reds giants starting on espn2
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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Cincy San Fran on the ESPN.
just said Votto is making a run at the triple crown although he is barely holding on to only the ba titile.
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a fish hook
an open eye
His only hope...
is that Pujols gets hurt… I just can’t imagine him out-homering pujols by five from here on out.
Fire La Russa!
Park factor. Votto plays in a band box. . .
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i'm really excited to see this defense.
i figured it out though i think. Feliz to 2B, Craig to 3B, Boog, Yadi 1B, Anderson C, winn jay holliday.
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
nvm!!!!!
Craig to 2B!
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
by tehzachatak on Aug 23, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
winn to RF
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 23, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ALLEN CRAIG 2 SECOND
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someone cover the rest of them, I'm kind of... flabbergasted.
scarecrow is throwing.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Towels! We need more towels here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
skip must be terrified right now
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
self-flagellation is a go
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
CRAzY TONY!
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
ruh roh
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
2nd base is the new FEMA
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"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Aug 23, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
so this should be fun
unfortunately it’s with MacDouble pitching
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
Does MacDougal really need to be "putting it back together" or whatever it is he's doing...
on a major league roster?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I like how we have a "really good" bullpen
but we have a guy dropped by the nationals on our roster.
/i swear if he’s on the playoff roster, i’ll…
Maybe Arizona is the standard for "good"; thus, Cards "really good."
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
MacDougal will be our 5th starter next year
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 24, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's see how it works.
Craig as utility guy is not the worst thing I could imagine. Just as long as he doesn’t hurt himself.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
was that a cheer I heard?
why are there still pirates fans there?
I'm not trolling, just being sarcastic.
Right side of Craig and Molina, with MacNeedsasandwich
Can’t see this going wrong.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
the Truck creepily quotes his waist and in-seam measurements.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Is mlb.tv down for anyone else?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
holy wtf...
this is just asking for trouble. If we lose, TLR’s HOF candidacy could be in jeopardy.
Fire La Russa!
Almost looks like a spring training game now.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
abou the same attendance
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
oh weird
I didn’t realize Anderson bats left throws right.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
ESPN just fucked up a baseball tonight by playing the same highlight
in two different games.
'Hold my stones!'
----Always smooth----
cdunc apparently recovering from hip surgery
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Back before The Great Schumaker Experiment, either Erik or Azru mentioned over at Future Redbirds that it made more sense to try Allen Craig at 2B than Schumaker
I thought that was crazy, and yet here we are… with both, in the same game even.
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
Skip is league worst defense...
with terrible offense. Might as well get one or the other.
Fire La Russa!
Al sounds like he's choking.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If MacD can't keep the ball down
it really won’t matter who’s playing second.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
WTF ESPN, they switch to the Reds/Giants game
and you hear a guy whispering… ‘I cant do it…No, i can’t do it. I can’t do it. THANKS STEVE, WELCOME TO AT&T PARK.’
Very odd.
'Hold my stones!'
----Always smooth----
....weird.
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 23, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
by tehzachatak on Aug 23, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
says SO MUCH about espn.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
AND YET YOU DID IT
(thanks again)
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 23, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He should look over his right shoulder, not his left.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
Correctly so, one might add.
StanTheManFan
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He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 23, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Winner!
Keep the Craigen at 2B!
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
yep
too bad he had no chances though, but he can’t really be that much worse than schu at D… and he can hit better
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
WINNER winner
chicken dinner
Gritty Proven Veteran
by RosevilleRedbird on Aug 23, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
THREE!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Hopefully time to watch the Giants roll the Reds.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
"too much albert"
Never too much albert.
by peach concrete on Aug 23, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Jason Motte told a little kid that was chanting Let's Go Bucs
To shut up. Kids dad and him got into verbal confrontation just as game was ending.
by Hardcore Legend on Aug 23, 2010 10:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
wat
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome
damn kids need to be put in their place
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
by mattyfrommo on Aug 23, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
please tell me you're recording this
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Eh that's kind of a dick thing for Motte to do
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 24, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
man... that sucks
i like motte
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Giants.
But I want the Giants to win.
Baseball is hard.
by peach concrete on Aug 23, 2010 10:16 PM EDT reply actions
baseball & life have a lot in common
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
brawl mention.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ooh, they hate it when you mix them up.
The Susquehanna Hat Company killed my father!
by Donovan Hamstain on Aug 23, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Weird, though. They should know the difference.
Didn’t Benji used to play in SF?
by peach concrete on Aug 23, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
This season.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 23, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
he just doesn't like the Molinas
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
Fire John Mozeliak
by mattyfrommo on Aug 23, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
OMG. WWL2 is rehashing the Donnybrook, giving the BP "side of the story."
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
And now ESPN spinning Phillips.
Writer apologized and apparently took Phillips out of context.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
Apparently Phillips was joking with teammates and the writer overheard and published the comments
Writer apologized to Phillips the next day (with the Reds’ PR flack present).
Per ESPN and the “other side” of the story….two weeks later.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
whatever
sounds like they’re trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
OK, so that puts Cueto's tantrum in context. Good. Settled.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
that's a fucking lie he wasn't joking, it was a one on one & the writer never apologized
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
i take that last part back
the paper & the team got together & tried to spin it. but the fact is he said it & didn’t back down the next day & i haven’t read him backing down since
fuck em all
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Where the hell have you been?
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
Wait this?
That’s old news sugga, I thought you were talking about something recent.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. ESPN's crew tonight was giving us Phillips' "side of the story"
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
Was he born a poor black child?
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
so what's the difference
between saying something to a teammate and saying it to a reporter? You’re still saying the same words.
It’s actually a bit worse if he was whining about it behind their backs, afraid to say it to their faces ;)
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Would you say he acted like a little bitch?
by vivaelpujols on Aug 23, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I might, actually.
And I’d say it to his face ;)
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
i call bs. someone (goold?) retweeted a comment from a CIN
Sportswriter to the effect of “yes, I heard phillips say it. I didn’t report it because I thought it was said on background (I.e., off the record).” That made sense b/c the story didn’t get picked up initially except by one outlet.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 23, 2010 11:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
fuck brandon phillips.
and fuck espn for trying to make him sound innocent.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
stupid WWL2 is blacked out in ohio, i so hate the reds announcers
might just have to watch the post game & DDD
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
They are the worst. Though someone tonight said the Pirates announcers were.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
Texas doing the tandem no-no...
Harden good, wild and unable to finish seven b/c of a high pitch count. Story of dude’s life.
Fire La Russa!
wow
Harden’s line:
6.2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 5 BB, 6 K
does anything describe Rich Harden better than that?
Craig Carton, radio host:
"If you’re a senior citizen going to Citi Field today, be careful because K-Rod might punch you in the face."
Caller:
"Nah, I wouldn’t worry about it Craig, the Mets haven’t beaten people in back-to-back games since June."
by tehzachatak on Aug 23, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless he joins MLBN
Could Colby Rasmus hit a ball so hard that even he couldn't catch it?
by Cardinals645 on Aug 23, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Yadda wanted no part of that post game with tv's pat parris
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
beat them, giants
Kain
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 10:25 PM EDT reply actions
Scott Rolen is NOT Country Strong
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
Whew, Jimmy, thought you were going to put your old team into some hurt.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
... hairball?
(really? no one else went there?)
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 23, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
weep
Scott Rolen apparently arranged his own trade.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the story is that JP was so incompetent, he let
read: asked
Scotty to call up Walt himself and work it out.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
woo aubrey huff!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't play Huff at third.
He’s a bit of a clanker in left and even at first, although he’s done pretty well this season defensively. I’d have been okay with Beltre, though, even with the price tag.
how about second base?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Lol, Huff.
He’s clanked two plays in one inning at first base. I love the guy, but…his glove even at first isn’t a selling point.
The Giants finally have...
some offense with this Huff-Burrell-Guillen axis. Posey can hit a little too.
Fire La Russa!
and volquez sucks.
so that’s a plus.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
mostly just Huff out of those three
but don’t forget Torres!
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So close, but still scores two.
Go Gigantes!
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 23, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Keep it goin', keep it goin'
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 23, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
OT: hilarious call
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10859689
skip to 3:30
I'm not trolling, just being sarcastic.
6ly, this kid is going to fall through the f'ing floor down on top of me
go the F home!
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Kinda funny, after WWL jerks talking up what a great pitcher he is.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
gi ants in the pants
running those bases
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Did you run that by Craig, or just send him out there?
Nah…he’s an infielder. Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be?
-TLR
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
"I'm not your bitch," Molina told Phillips.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's a good quote.
6-0!!!
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
LOL Jim Joyce behind the plate for possible no hitter at Texas
'Hold my stones!'
----Always smooth----
HAHA!
the plate umpire in the rangers game is jim joyce.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Perfect . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Sanchez knocks in another. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Well played Mauer,
well played.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
"I'm not your bitch," Molina told Phillips.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I was going to rec it, then you added the second one.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
No hitter over...
I blame Aaron Miles
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
There it goes.
Gorgeous Joe with the knockout.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 23, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
They did say that before they switched games, right?
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
It really isn't
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i would laugh
if the memories didn’t make me cry.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Be nice if the Reds use up their pen in game 1 of the series. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
If the Reds don't have Leake or Volquez...
they roll with Bailey, Cueto, Arroyo, Harang’s corpse, Wood, LeCure…
Seems thin.
Fire La Russa!
wtf is with arroyo?
he is not good, but pitching well
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
it's like when people say my car isn't fast...
but they keep losing races to it at gateway…
hmm…
weird.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
no shit
Cincy can slug with anybody, but I just don’t find their rotation intimidating at all….
Leake fell back to earth at least somewhat, wonder if the same will happen to Wood.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
I think Wood profiles a little bit better.
Seems to have both better control, and swinging-strike generating stuff.
Haven’t looked at the stats to see if they back up my gut feelings, though. Busy watching Giants shit on the Reds.
This is glorious.
I’m a Giants fan as well as a Cards fan (although if the two teams meet, or have conflicting interests, as in the wildcard, I support the Cards), so it’s especially sweet to see them shit all over the Reds early on here.
I'm kind of a fan, too. It's the closest NL park to me, and it's a great place to watch a ballgame.
Might as well root for the home team.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
And here comes the 'pen.
Sweet.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 23, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
I would still...they won the game...
which is the important thing
'Hold my stones!'
----Always smooth----
bye, volquez.
you suck.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Well, at least two pitchers didn't survive the first inning tonight.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
It doesn't matter how behind the Reds are
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and them to score 7 runs in the bottom of the 8th or something
rick ankiel hit a home run tonight....
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
he also had a clutch
2 out go ahead triple in the 9th inning with the bases loaded two nights ago.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Volquez
0.2 IP
10 batters faced
5 ER
3 runners still on base
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
still too early.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he's done.
He can’t improve on that line.
Oh wait…
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
no, I mean the reds.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
well, i've got to get up at 5 tomorrow morning.
so i’m calling it quits. hope i don’t see a stupid comeback in the morning.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
Stay classy, Cinci
Maybe Jim Edmonds will get hurt tonight.
by Brian B on Aug 23, 2010 7:59 PM PDT via mobile
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
yes
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It's gotta be weird for them,
rooting for 2 guys that repeatedly gutted them over the years.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
"I'm not your bitch," Molina told Phillips.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
between Cincy fans and Birds fans
I’m not wholly sure which group is getting the short end of the stick in that arrangement….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
Well, we got their best years,
so there’s that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
"I'm not your bitch," Molina told Phillips.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
man, how the years blur in the mind
Brian Barton and Jim Edmonds never played together. I could have sworn they did.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
I just now checked gameday for the Reds/Giants game
I like what I see.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
espn2
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
"I'm not your bitch," Molina told Phillips.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
On ESPN2 if you are so reclined.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
your second thanks was notably less emphatic
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
probably because it's "inclined"
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not if you are sitting on the couch with your feet up
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
so you're saying
that’s the position for espn2?
oh my.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 23, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Now some live reporting from Votto's colon
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
Damnit Scotty
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
At least Jimmy E knows something about team loyalty.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
love the one you're with, man
good lord, is it really only the 4th inning?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Nix out, with a sprained y
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
by TBender on Aug 23, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Damn - leave for a meeting - worthless - and come back to find Rolen rollin'
Sad – what did each of the following do to piss of TLR?
Kerry Robinson
Anthony Kennedy
Adam Kennedy
Scotty
whom did I omit from Tony’s (B)ARF foundation?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
The original....
Ozzie
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
"I'm not your bitch," Molina told Phillips.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Forgot about him. . . wonder how he would have gotten along with Musial?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
ozzie just got old
and didn’t want to admit it.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Might have been some interesting sociology between TLR and say Bob Gibson
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
nah, gibson knew when it was time to hang them up
he gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock and said “I’m done”.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
that's someone's sig around here
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Remeber when Gibson was asked toward the end if he was throwing as hard as before.
Classic reply:
Yeah, I’m throwing as hard. It just takes longer for the ball to arrive. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Go CHRIS O'LEARY
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha, nice.
Although extremely odd and a little hipster-ish
'Hold my stones!'
----Always smooth----
if you go by musical tastes
it’s probably true
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 23, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Buffalo Bill: The High School Years.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Go Giants!!!
ESPN stop jocking Votto and Bruce. They love Bruce but Colby is invisible.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
yeah well
Colby didn’t come up mid season and hit a HR in his first AB did he? Kid needs to learn to sell it.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Seeing Piniella cry about that being the last time he would put the uniform on
made me think how funny if it would be if football and basketball coaches had to dress up like their players.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
that would be awesome
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
better than those red pajamas he wear half the time.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Law and Order fans here
What was the best cast in that series?
I’m going with season 6: McCoy as ADA, Kincaid (damnfine) as Jr. ADA, Briscoe as detective 1, Curtis as detective 2, Schiff as DA.
loved briscoe
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Aug 23, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that I can argue with this choice
but I have a soft spot for Green.
The cast in the final season was outstanding—it’s a shame they took that long to adjust to not having Briscoe.
Not to mention having to replace McCoy
The last cast was pretty clutch, but I get the feeling most people started to tune out once Briscoe and McCoy were gone.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too, but it was kinda jarring seeing him not be the star of the last 30 minutes of every episode
I thought Cutter was really good though.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved the Michael Moriarty years.....
old school.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
How the fuck did Bob Gibson not win a Cy in 1969?
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
oh, it'
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
its because of Seaver's 25 wins
damn those less enlightened times
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, to a truly disastrous 2.18
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
shame
Baseball Ref gives Gibson a truly epic 11 WAR that season to Seaver’s 7.6
Yet Gibby didn’t get a single Cy vote.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
JIMMY NO
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Losing two outfielders in one game.
Maybe the worm is beginning to turn.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
I don't even want to read RR's reply
i would probably lose faith in humanity.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
hurt himself swinging in the top of the 6th
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
sucks for Jimmy
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
actually they just said
strained right oblique
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
swung and pulled something.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Leg/ankle injury running on Votto's GRD
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
sprained ankle
Man, so that leaves Cincy with an OF of Heisey, Gomes, and Stubbs?
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
Bruce
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey folks
I was watching up until the Cards went up 4-0… how did we seriously score the rest?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions
Edmonds threw out his hip?
Let the old guy comparisons commence.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
Is the Gateworth anywhere near Jimmy's restaurant?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
He's gonna build his own retirement community there
called N19teenF15teen.
/lame
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I like how I went onto FESPN's page to check the score of the Reds game
And the highlight is “Joey Votto could ACTUALLY win the triple crown”.
As if there weren’t somebody else who leads in HR AND RBI and only 5 pts off in BA.
FESPN.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 24, 2010 12:12 AM EDT reply actions
where is votto sitting after tonights ABs so far?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
where is votto sitting after tonights ABs so far?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
He's at .324.
1 for 2 today.
Albert, of course, is ridiculous.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 24, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
i have this sneaking suspicion that albert is going to lead this team to the promised land
this race is far from over and i could see albert winning the triple crown and taking the MVP away from Votto… but then again… I picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Albert at .319 / 33 / 92 currently
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
We could *very* easily end up with the MVP, Cy Young and ROY
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
TOWEL
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
remember to take the FRESH ones
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
And miss the playoffs because we have 5-6 players who don't belong in the bigs.
That’s difference between the Cards and the Reds. The Cards have a lot of studs and some scrubs, the Reds have one stud and a lot of average/slightly above-average players.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
nah, reds have a lot of scrubs playing over their heads.
and one stud playing over his head, and a couple of former studs playing a bit over their heads.
And brandon phillips, who should be a stud, but he’s a whiny bitch, so he’s a 4-5 WAR player instead of a 6 WAR player.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
by SleepyCA on Aug 24, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
According to FESPN (but the good FESPN, Dan Szymbizzle)
Pujols has a 16.7% shot of winning the triple crown. Votto… 0.8%
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Albert is more likely to pass Votto in BA than Votto is to pass Albert in HR.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
Votto has the advantage of playing in bandbox. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Albert has the advantage of being ridiculous
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I defer, sir. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Late night slackers...
This should be green.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
two days later & still no greenage, you all suck
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
fo shizzle
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow... This is a comment from Dan Szymborski about mccarver:
McCarver was probably all excited that he learned a fact and wanted to make sure everyone knew he learned something.
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
this is when he magically appears, right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
?
what do you mean?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
he just... comments to VEB.
like magic.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Dan Szym(whatever) comments on here?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
je
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
wtf, sbn?!
he’s picked up his rate of magic comments.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
nice... i had no idea
hey i saw your reference to horseshoe’s the other day… do you know the history of them (cause i have interesting information about their origin)?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I've heard a few stories
is there a definitive version? Incidentally, girlfriendup and I tried to make them while I was visiting, and let me just say there is no dish worse suited to Japanese grocery stores.
Well there are many stories but I'll stand by this one
My Dad’s Uncle Steve Tomko was a chef and the Leland Hotel in Springfield many years back. According to a plaque from the City of Springfield (which someone in my family is currently in possession of) he was one of the co-orginators of the dish. My dad actually has the original recipe for the cheese sauce that they used.
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
haha
Well the funny thing is that my Dad’s brother had been feverishly working on figuring out the recipe for the sauce they use and Darcy’s pint. I am happy to report that he got it 99% correct and now my family cooks a pot of both sauces at family get togethers… makes me fat and happy
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
if you are interested in making horseshoes...
I can get you either of those recipe’s if you want
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm always interested
I’m not sure I have the skills to pull it off, but I’d love to give it a shot.
well i'll email you when i get a chance
and if anybody else is interested in a super tasty springfield Illinois food tradition, i can make a fan post
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
a horseshoe
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
a fanpost it is!
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Springfieldonian?
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
This.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i'd like to know who dan szymborski is
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
look down....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Second base….I’ve played second base, how hard can it be? -TLR
Also, Dave Concepcion.
its not hard to make
just combine ingredients in a pot
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Just for that guys:
Pujols 2011 ZiPS: 223/334/380
I have a running list of about 50 keywords of stuff I’m interested in talking about or in the news (including my name). With less time than I used to have, it makes finding discussions to participate in easier.
by D.Szymborski on Aug 24, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure if nexdef'd but...
“Pujols, in fact, ranks tied for ninth in PNC homers with anybody who did play for the Pirates.” That’s insane.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
and incredibly fucking sad
(if you are a pirates fan)
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Cain lookin sharp. I did not realize he was only 25. I thought he was like 30.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Here's to the GoB straining a few more Reds' muscles as they flail away at him. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
i once convinced a giant's fan
to trade me Cain for Ankiel…. to bad GMs aren’t stupid.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
ive been dying to ask: thoughts on eminem's recovery album?
first of all, im a fan of rap, but not usually albums; they always suck… well not eminem but… anyway reason i ask is because im pretty sure most of VEBers don’t like rap and was wondering what their thoughts on eminem were (good lyrics make all the difference)
i love his album: not afraid of course, love the way you lie is the probably the best song, 25 to life is the perfect song for hard breakups, talking to myself shows eminem’s mental battle and his doubts, no love is an incredible remix, space bound is one of my favorites although less well known…
i linked the lyrics because that’s the only way you can like his rap songs over others… anyway, im pretty positive im not gonna get a great response, because it probably would have already been mentioned… lastly, anybody hate rap, but like eminem cause i hear that a lot?
It's a fantastic album
Going to be multi platinum
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Aug 24, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
aw man, it seems to have jumped Arcade Fire
on the Billboard 200
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Another great album
I heard on the radio that Recovery has sold 100,000+ albums for 8! consecutive weeks. That’s Pujols.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Aug 24, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved Em's first three albums...
but none of those songs did anything for me. Em sounds good but the beats are NOT good.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 24, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I like rap but I've never been a big eminem fan
If you like more intellectually/interior-minded rap you should check out either Lupe Fiasco album or Danny!‘s “And I Love H.E.R.” I’m also a big Kanye West fan, but he grates on people a little more (for obvious reasons.)
Lupe's pretty good, i prefer Kid Cudi over him
and Kanye needs to start making songs again, he was on a good roll…
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
kid cudi has some great songs
but every once in a while he says something that makes me think, “man, that guy is just incredibly dumb, and he doesn’t realize it at all.”
Example's please?
I usually just listen to Cudi for the beats because his lyrics don’t really make sense (but the beats are really, really good).
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
well soundtrack to my life makes sense
I’ve got some issues that nobody can see
And all of these emotions are pouring out of me
I bring them to the light for you
It’s only right
This is the soundtrack to my life, the soundtrack to my life
i mean that’s awesome, i listen to songs for lyrics, that’s why i hate lil wayne
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
the ones that come to mind:
“I live in a cocoon, opposite of cancun” and juxtaposing his whining with getting his cock sucked in soundtrack to my life.
Also that line where he goes “metaphor for my liiife mayneee.” I know it’s a metaphor cudi, I went to eighth grade too. And all that interstitial garbage with Common talking about him like he’s a God-king of overblown teenage sadness.
Basically I think his musical skills are commensurate with his ambitions, but his writing absolutely isn’t, so he should get some help or tone down his scope.
His new song is great, though, I like that he’s willing to risk releasing a single that sounds like Weezer to kick off his new album.
had to tie Weezer into it
didn’t you?
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
also evidence for his weed smoking
“And I tried to piece the puzzle of the universe
Split an eighth of shrooms just so I could see the universe”
and
“Only things that calm me down, pussy and some Cali trees
And I get both, never truly satisfied
I am happy, that’s just the saddest lie” ?(which is pretty clever actually)
yeh “nobody gave a fuck, but when its all said and done, my cock’s been sucked” – that’s definitely a head-scratcher
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I will bet you 10,000 dollars he smokes weed
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
95% of rappers do
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
and the other 5% are old
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
"the other 5% are old"
or the other 5% have taken steps to improve their life, i.e eminem…..
not many old rappers out there
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
sure there are
rappers get old like everyone else.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
that's probably because he's high
he supposedly smokes a lot of weed…. (actually, a lot of weed-smoking friends at my high school like him for this very reason).. he’s also very random in a lot of songs
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I definitely agree with that
Lil Wayne is also really random, but he’s reallllllllly good at making clever rhymes.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Lil Wayne is just absurdly talented
and hearing his voice is a delight
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
i like some of lil wayne's songs, its just he's so overrated its not funny
and all of his songs go mainstream it seems like…. i mean drop the world makes little sense yet its a great song
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I just think he's really funny
He makes the sickest rhymes and his lines make no sense taken in conjunction with eachother, but they are so good. For example:
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
see i didn't like his no ceilings album
because it felt rushed, lyrics were sacrificed for speed… i mean its clever and his voice gives him an advantage, but its not my thing
most of his original songs are good beats and i guess the problem is they get old fast while i don’t really get tired of eminem songs because of the lyrics… i like drake better when it comes to good beats and so-so lyrics
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I guess I like clever lyrics more than, well, good ones haha.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
hmmm clever?
shows the qualities of a lil wayne song pretty well
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah that's pretty good
I like the use of weird words (like tobogganing). My favorite little string of lil wayne lyrics are the begining to run this town:
C-A-R-T-E-R put the beat in ER.
I’m colder than BR
Add another 3 R’s
Watch me like D-V-D-V-C-R
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty good at understanding and comparing the aesthetic qualities of most pop music
but a lot of hip-hop is lost on me. Don’t get me wrong, I adore the stuff, it’s just that a lot of the “seminal” works don’t really click with me. Public Enemy sounds dated to me, for example.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It's probably because most rap albums don't really hold together
it’s a singles oriented artform.
That said, if you haven’t checked out “Hell Hath No Fury” by Clipse, you are missing out bigtime.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
I'm not a huge fan
A lot of the songs sound too much alike (soft woman’s melodic voice in the chorus, hard rap in the versus), and Eminem isn’t really funny in this one, which I thought was a strong point for the rest of his albums. I also thought the beats/tunes in the songs were kinda meh. I definitely thought it was one of his weaker albums.
Then again I was a huge fan of early Eminem and 90’s rap in general, so maybe I just have different taste.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you on that.
I’ve listened to like 6 tracks now and the production is really weak. It’s interesting to compare this to 2001: The Chronic, which I’ve been listening to nonstop the last two weeks. That’s got to be up there for greatest rap albums ever. Great beats, great raps, Dre, Snoop and Eminem on one album…jesus.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 24, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it was awesome
I thought the original Chronic was better, but I wasn’t disappointed with the second one.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Those are two of the greatest rap albums of all time
Along with Fear Of A Black Planet, Illmatic, the second Eminem album, Doggystyle, etc.
by mattisnotfrench on Aug 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
he's changed his style a bit i think
i mean, i think i know what you mean… i love crack a bottle, the way i am, cleaning out my closet, ass like that…. but his newer album has better lyrics i’d say
he tried the funny in relapse and it didn’t come out well… not a fan of 3 AM
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree about the lyrics
But even those seem a bit rehashed. I still think it’s a pretty good album, just because Eminem is so good, but I liked it a lot less than his others.
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i haven't heard the whole album
but what I have heard sounds like a retread. Then again, I’ve always hated Eminem’s attention-starved brooding and look-at-how-shocking-i-am verses.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
NIce, but where the hell did Huff the Magic Dragon come from? Wasn't he wallowing in some Baltimore miasma?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Giants piling on
this is a great day for America
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
fuck yeah
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Aug 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL reds
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions
Pandas can swim!
Prolly out though.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions
i thought so too
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
thank you GOB
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by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
who goes tommorow for cincinnati?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Survey says-
Travis Wood
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
haha WTF kind of slide was that?
….I sense a new gif involving cake.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
The one he learned from Joey Slides.
Needs practice, though.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
might need a slightly more aerodynamic runner too
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
The grounds crew has a ditch to fill in now.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i would think that Sandoval would be more aerodynamic than mather
I mean… look at the prius… its got a coefficient of drag that is .25 compared to a Nissan GTR which is .28
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
bwahahaha
a group of Giants fans had a LET’S GO GIANTS thing going with their shirts, and the camera showed the E and one of the Gs leaving the stadium….
10-2 now, still nobody out.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
That's why it's easier to do that with BOOOOOOOOOOOOG
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
see
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
or by consensus
GO BOOOOOOOOG.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
whoever is wearing B has to be a Proven Veteran
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
well these are posters.
for the O/G flipping thing to work.
I still think it should be standardized, because there are a lot of easy ways to have a not-ready-for-TV poster. font mavens can expound on that…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is why the BOOG sign plan is srs bznz.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Aug 24, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Need to go through a couple of more Reds firemen. . . .
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Man... I was dumb to have been so down about the Cardinals chances after Friday night's loss
I was convinced that the season was drawing to a close.
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Reality check for those who said the season was over:
We are 1 game out of the wild card and will be 2.5 games out of the central if this result holds.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
i need to check my irrational stupidity at the door
thank you sir… may i have another?
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
tomorrow we have wainwright
and the reds get to face jonathon sanchez who has the ability to completely shut them down with travis wood pitching (no idea how good he is)
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Wood's done well for them so far
2.51 ERA in 9 starts. IIRC he took a no-hitter into the 9th.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
Yeah Wood's pretty good
But his xFIP is 4.21 and he’s an extreme fly ball pitcher. Are they playing at GAB?
by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
damn well we got waino
i want to make up one more game during this series so we are only 1.5 games back when they go play the cubs and easy teams..
if we can stay at 1.5 when we face reds, i like our chances
by stlcardsfan4 on Aug 24, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
good point. it is just so frustrating cause it seems like we should have a 4 or 5 game lead in the division especially after the sweep of Cincy.
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another game?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well, that was a fun evening of baseballs. 21 runs scored on the side of the angels.
"He was fun to be behind." -- Boog on Jaime, 8/22/10
Brett Wallace made a web gem.
or half a web gem. it was a Bretts gem.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he is gonna be a good one I think. but we got Pujols and he netted us Holliday so he served his purpose.
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Next years line-up...I take some liberties and assume two guys can field their positions.
Ryan SS
Jay CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Rasmus RF
Craig 2B
Cox 3B
Molina C
Pitcher
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at worst...
you get a Craig / Cox platoon at 2B and Freese at 3B if his ankle regenerates.
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anyone can play second base...
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
at least Craig spent some time in the infield? although I have no idea if he can turn two...
kinda important so maybe I will put down the crack pipe now….
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Except Adam Kennedy . . . for TLR
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HL Mencken
that is the thought. maybe we can get him a segway?
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by the way is it less stress on the legs playing a corner spot?
You fit into me
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well as long as he doesn't emulate Ankiel face plants off the stadium wall he should be okay I just like the idea of Jay in CF who seems to have fresher legs.
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Think Cox will win a job in ST, or is this a mid-season line-up?
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 24, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know...just daydreaming ...I saw five minutes of a scouting vid and thought between that and Tony calling him a player and the ML contract maybe he pulls a Pujols.
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Matt Carpenter??
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I think from what I've heard and seen I would rather Freese.
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Do yourself a favor
and read Azru’s write-up of the Springfield hitters.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
Thanks - Wonder if he can jump a level. Hard to explain why he is not at Memphis now. .
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HL Mencken
he's clearly blocked by Reuben Gotay
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
not clear
I certainly would rank Carpenter over Gotay in my organizational depth chart.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
One of the PD writers said that the Cards do not see any chance of Gotay having the tools to play third in the bigs. If so, why the hell not move Carpenter up?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
oh I did read that...
is not he a bit old for his level?
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night folks
go cards… f the reds
Meanwhile, the Cardinals had the great silencer standing on the mound for the opener. His name is Carpenter, and, to quote James Brown, papa don't take no mess.
by FredbirdisaDork on Aug 24, 2010 1:24 AM EDT reply actions
how much does it suck to be a Mariners fan...
your sure fire can’t miss team blows up.
your coach gets fired.
you trade away Adam Jones for Bedard.
you trade Morrow.
:(
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losing mysterui just broke the camel's back
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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it wasn't sure fire can'- miss at all
they were a defensively oriented team with a pair of aces, designed for low-scoring games
there was never much hitting
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
without the OBP or baserunning
or defense, or pitching.
Oh, wait.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
fine...in theory it reminded me of whitey ball. in practice it reminds me of the crap.
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from the recap
Pujols has homered in 10 of his last 19 games. Also, Ohlendorf had “soreness and tightness in his right shoulder”, to get MRI on Tuesday. "It got worse with each pitch. I didn’t feel great warming up but I thought I could pitch," he said. "Hopefully it’s in the muscle and not the shoulder."
Sounds grim.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
nota good sign for Ohlendorf.
pun intended.
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Jose Bautista did something in the offseason?
hmmm
’09 .173 ISO, .408 SLG
’10 .331 ISO, .586 SLG
what the hell
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 24, 2010 1:42 AM EDT reply actions
finally started to hit the gym?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 24, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
who knows
the dude is probably gonna hit 50 this year
baseball… how does it work?
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
they must not test for PEDs in Canada.
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he actually hit ten home runs last September
after hitting three in the first five months. I hope he gets 50.
he does seem to have nice bat speed and kind of a super slap ...
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I was guessing the other night
that the Toronto grounds crew moved the walls in and didn’t tell anybody….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
conversion from meters goes awry
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That reminds of one of the bits of Robin Williams Live on Broadway.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 24, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
What do you expect from a country that festoons its coins with beaver?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
really strong beer and hot chicks who dig hockey?
You fit into me
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A trademarked Matt Leach stat of the day for you all
Stat of the Day, 1: Yadier Molina is batting .348 since the All-Star break with a .395 on-base percentage.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
He really took that "I'm going to treat it like it's a whole new season" to the next level, didn't he?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 24, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Boog has picked it up as well. Schu too. wtf happened to us in the first half?
holliday and Pujols were both shaky as well.
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latter is 'cause the rest of the lineup was freaking out.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well, if they're going to start playing like they ought to
now’s the time to do it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 24, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Luddy was kind of a weird case though.
Guy was nails with runners aboard, but couldn’t hit sand if he fell off a camel when no one was on. Kinda the reverse of Lego.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 24, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
kid number 2.
maybe he really wanted a girl.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Okay, g'night folks
Waino day tomorrow. I am predicting an 81 pitch, 27 K game from him, all of which are swinging strikes.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
the Reds' TV network
has a very long post-game show (always). Tonight it was delightful.
By the way, Dusty is fairly sure Edmonds is headed for the DL.
so,
lohse didn’t look great, but i think it was a really promising outing. last time, he looked solid for 3 innings and then imploded. this time, he looked solid for the most part for 5 innings and they pulled him before he imploded. should be a good outing for his confidence, too. i’ll be interested to see how his next start goes, but i’m still not ready to call him “back.” he’ll get another fairly easy opponent next time and i think if he can get on a roll at the same time he starts getting that command back, he’ll be a nice asset for the stretch
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
front page article on the P-D
Pujols, Lohse lead win over Pirates
Home run No. 399 for Cardinals slugger Albert Pujols provided comfort Monday night for pitcher Kyle Lohse, who returned to the mound for the first time in three months.
eh?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i'll just leave this here
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Aug 24, 2010 3:35 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I think this must be wrong
ESPN, MLB Network, etc. are all talking about how Votto is the frontrunner for the MVP and is a great triple crown candidate. To be a candidate, he’d have to be leading in at least 2 of the 3 categories, right?
defy, cards, defy. hey logic --- you suck.
it helps that Albert plays in a bandbox
and votto hits in a pitchers park, right?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
to be a candidate
really i’d say he just has to be in the top three of all categories. He’s a Candidate much like Ron Paul was last election. His name is there. But he doesn’t have a realistic shot.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Also of note...
Albert in 3rd with AVG (4 behind Votto)
Wainwright in 4th in Ks (15 behind Halladay)
Albert looks like a vagrant in that picture
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
crap, there was so much hope for this week after this game
the Cards should be ashamed of themselves
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