This Week Around SB Nation: August 16-22
by DanUpBaby on Aug 22, 2010 6:34 PM EDT
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PrintAfter some downtime spent moving Viva El Birdos World Headquarters to Fort Collins we're back with a new edition of This Week In SB Nation, an ideally-weekly feature designed to draw attention to the Cardinals material produced off the front page of VEB.
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The week began with our final look at Brandon Phillips's creative use of obscenity—The Top Five People Brandon Phillips Should Antagonize Next, a list that begins with the lead singer of Weezer and, via the St. Louis Rams, ducks through three very different second basemen.
Alex Fritz chimed in on the Pedro Feliz trade—you might remember it —with a presumably incomplete list of players, people, and inanimate objects he'd rather see play third base than Pedro Feliz.
Things I Would Be Okay With Trading Away For Pedro Feliz
A half-empty Orange Julius smoothie
The memory of Bob Horner, myself, and my mother having a very awkward encounter in the lobby of the Ballpark Marriott, circa 1988.
Pedro Feliz himself, stuck in a never-ending vortex of being traded
On the Sports of St. Louis Blog, meanwhile, there was talk of Jaime Garcia winning rookie of the year; Pete Kozma eventually being good enough to become a rookie; and the Cubs trading Albert Pujols's 2005 foil, among other things.
Viva El Birdos Fanposts
Another great week in the Viva El Birdos Fanposts Section. Cards Fan in Chitown took a location poll of Viva El Birdians (note to self: come up with better demonym); what surprised me most wasn't the five votes outside the continental US but the eight votes from New York and New England, which seem to me to be tough places to stick to one's Cardinal fandom.
JWO took the occasion of the end of the MLB Draft signing period to collate scouting reports from the Cardinals most highly touted new faberge eggs. mstreeter06 is keen to start a VEB Out of the Park Sim Baseball league, which I would definitely recommend if you aren't, like me, a dyed in the wool Baseball Mogul player.
thepainguy, in a good-news/bad-news scenario for VEB third base watchers, took a look at the overly lunging swing of Allen Craig and the impressively long swing of Pedro Feliz. These swing breakdowns are always worth checking out; in particular, he's convinced he could fix some of Pedro Feliz's problems without a lot of time investment, which means that whoever among us who's seen Celtic Pride the most times should orchestrate Feliz's kidnapping and delivery to painguy headquarters prior to tomorrow's game.
Next d-dee, fresh off her definitive Cards/Reds fight fanpost, collects everything there is to know about Chris Carpenter's mysterious tattoos. Paulspike rhapsodizes for an ordinary-guy starter behind the Cardinals' three stars. (Unfortunately, I think this is the guy Kyle Lohse is being paid to be.) Finally, punchinjudy reminds us that things used to be worse in the Cardinals universe—Felix Jose worse.
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I am happy that Feliz is working out... So far...
But what I really want to say is… Jaime Garcia is a bad ass!!!
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
but are you feliz that Happy is working out?
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
he;s basically free
so i’m happy with whatever we get beyond solid 3B D
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
you know what?
The guy who does the roto world is a jerk.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Roto world has been nice to Jaime all season long
and he finally puts up a truly spectacular performance (especially following his last strong outing) and he gets the “Jaime Garcia? Really?” treatment.
Whatever, Roto World.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
what do you expect from those pathetic north side losers?
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
I didn't think the rotoworld stuff was bad
The worst thing they said about his performance is that it was surprising. Were you not (pleasantly) surprised?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 23, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
with the way he’d been pitching lately (only pretty good), i was pretty surprised to see him challenge for best cardinal starting pitcher performance of the season
waino had a 2-hit shutout, but jaime faced only one over the minimum and needed only 89 pitches. i’m probably not laying this award on jaime without questioning it because i’m such a huge waino fanboy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
ok, our next 10 games are against the Pirates, Gnats, and 'Stros...
If we can’t pull off at least 8 wins in that stretch, I’ll be severely disappointed. I’d like us to be well within striking distance of Cincy for our next meeting.
Maybe we’re seeing a new Cards team as compared to recent years… mediocre in August, and unbeatable in September. Oh how I’d enjoy seeing that.
Padres' RFL for GG!
We may miss Strasburg as well if his injury is serious
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 23, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder... would we ever draft a woman? This girl might be worth it someday..
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/e60/news/story?id=5386830
Could the MLB break the gender barrier in the next 10 years?
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
wow, her fastball is 6 mph lower than Wakefield's, at age 13.
she might actually be able to make it work.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
We got Dibs on that ilttle Japanese Knuckleballer!
Phil Neikro: Johnny Knuckleseed!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
On a tangential note
I watched RA Dickey the other day beat up the Astros. That knuckler of his is pretty darn good.
are you surprised?
his intials are mother shitting RAD
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Many positives today for the Cards, but
is this going to be another fall on your face after looking great? That has been how it has gone all year long so hopefully this is the start of a good streak.
Wainright, Carpenter, and Garcia look ready for the challenge and while Westbrook has pitched well he needs to get some W’s.. Those four are a big key to a successful stretch run, but Lohose may be just as important. Part of the Cards problem with consistency can be found in the two automatic loss days after Penny and Lohose went down. The big three gave them an excellent chance to win while the bottom two sapped the life out ouf every potential winnning streak. They can not longer afford an automatic loss day and therefore Lohose becomes a very important part of the stretch drive. They need one of those old fashion winning streaks.
Pressure remains on the offense
Of the five losses last week, the memphis and the veteran scrubs were the only ones who managed to break two runs in a game. Three of the loosses were by scores of 3-2. Some clutch hitting would have turned the 0-5 into 3-2 and wild card lead and half a game back of first place.
The offense and the defense has to support the starters over the next 10 games in order to keep the race tight for the big Labor Day series.
Pool time!
When will Albert hit his 400th?
I’m going with this Saturday
by CarpIsMyManCrush on Aug 22, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Thursday
for the simple reason that I’m going to be on an airplane that day and therefore unable to see it. The year’s been kinda like that: good stuff happens to others, and I can’t even watch.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 22, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Tuesday
since no one’s claimed that day yet.
by ArkansasTravs on Aug 23, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
two on monday
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
i ment to reply to pool time my bad
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
overlooked vital component
there have been many wonderful theories and discussions lately about what areas and players need to crank it up for us to make the playoffs. Mine is this:
He may not be the main one (to blame for the mediocrity) but he is one who, if he hit the gear he is capable of, would make a hell of a difference. Our very own expensive streak hitter in residence, Mr. Holliday.
Remember this time last year; the boy was carrying us. He has just looked funky to me most of the year and I remain stunned that his numbers are as good as they are. Seems like he has as many flared or blooped or lucky fall-ins as he has stingers.
If he starts driving the ball consistently, we’re in business.
word
The guy has fallen all the way to 11th in OPS and has a career high matching 21% Line Drive rate, while being 27 points below his career average.
Slacker.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
he's way behind his normal xbh for the season
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
based on ?
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
sorry, posted without previewing
year….xbh….xbh/h….isolated power
04…….48….. 41%…..198
05……. 50…. 34%…..198
06…….. 84 …. 43%…..260
07…….. 92 ….. 43%…..267
08……. 65 ….. 38%…..217
09……. 66…. 36%…. .202
10……. 55…. 40%…. .219
again, this is while matching his career high LD rate and being .27 below his career BABIP
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
damn he was a beast in '07
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 22, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lead the league in...
BA, H, 2B, RBIs and Total bases.
4th in HRs. 16 short of Fielder.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
and times being knocked out cold while scoring the winning run in game 163
totally led the league in that.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
oh, so at 4:00 in we learn that Joe Neikro taught her
to throw the knuckleball, in exchange for a kiss on the cheek. And then he died.
bit weird, that part. And then she wrote a poem. if she does succeed, even becoming a marginal minor leaguer, this will be the greatest story in the history of baseball, imho.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
oops, replied to wrong post
Joe Niekro never kissed Matt Holliday. let the rumors die NOW.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
the damage is done.
Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte
Fox told me sometime this week he's way low in xbh
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
I'm not sure where you are getting that LD number
Fangraphs has him at 17.5%, which is below his career average 19.4%.
His BABIP at .320 is below his career average, but there is no way that .347 career BABIP is going to stay that high.
He has a 29.6 O-Swing percentage, which is clearly a career high. This could be why he looks bad to the naked eye.
WPA isn’t the best stat, but as for putting what we see into perspective I think it does some good. His WPA is considerably lower than it ended up being even last year, 1.45 to 3.51.
I think there is sufficient evidence so say that he is not playing poorly at all, but he could easily be playing better. This season should be one of his best in terms of his age.
by thegodfather on Aug 22, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm getting his LD% off of BR
One man’s LD is another man’s flyball I guess.
saying that that WPA isn’t the best stat is understandment. I’d actually go ahead and call it a completely useless stat that has less meaning then wins/losses for a pitcher. Him being down in that this year is more due to his poor hitting with RISP through the first few months of the season.
His O-Swing Percentage is up, but his K% is down. Though you do tend to hit less LDs when you are hitting balls out of the strike zone.
As far as the age thing goes, I thought I guys 27 year old season was suppose to be one of his best? Not his 30 year old season. Could be wrong there.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Nitpicking
Well then his 21% LD rate is right at career average, according to BR.
I don’t think WPA is valuable for much of anything, except what I used it for. It offers some suggestion as to why many people see him as performing worse than last year even when his total numbers are similar.
His K% is trending down along with his BB%.
Age 27 is supposedly the peak season, but his age 30 season should still be one of his best. Conventional wisdom has been 28-32, even though it’s probably somewhat younger than that.
All I was trying to say is that it isn’t unreasonable to expect Holliday to perform better. He’s been good, but his career numbers say that he can improve on what he’s done.
by thegodfather on Aug 23, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i would say 28-32 is the prime age
for an athlete and hackin holliday is no diff..i was a lil bugged he went down swingin with the bases loaded today
its not like the guy bloomed as 20 yr old so he should be fine beyond 30…lets look after these next 2 weeks..if he’s idle..i would be concerned…hopefully he can heat up and finish at or around the 8th best hitter
is anyone vehemently opposed to hitting him in front of albert? its sorta retorical but if have something beyond..“hell yes/no” quality i wouldnt mind reading it
by guillermozeliak on Aug 23, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
it's ridiculous to bat him behind albert.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
I think you answered yourself.
"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy
by hazel on Aug 22, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing much.
How did those Mariners do today?
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
No clue
I have little to no affiliation with them the rest of the year, at least
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Ahh, internship ended, oh well.
Still fun while it lasted.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
So, let us all welcome Cody Ross to the San Francisco Giants
and hope he sparks them to a 3 game winning streak.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 22, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
so this officially recalibrates my opinion of the Ludwick trade
Since CR is basically Ryan Ludwick, having an off-year.
OTOH, damn, we should have jumped on this. He’s definitely better than Randy Winn.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Yeah, he might have been a nice pick up.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 23, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
actually, no.
This was frigging stupid from the marlin’s perspective. It was extra-stupid, for any GM to let this guy get past them for less than $1M, but it was stupider to give him away.
Doesn’t change my opinion about player values- players have an intrinsic value, and you don’t sell when the market is low.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
by SleepyCA on Aug 23, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Outside of being too sentimental
this is why I didn’t like the trade. (Obviously not alone in that regard.)
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Aug 23, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
POLL
who’s the MVP today?
who’s the MVP by the end of the year?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
you still in rolla?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope, back at USC now
Last semester before I graduate =(
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
have fun!
i was going to ask you to punch my brother in the face for me, but i guess that’s not going to happen.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
He will get punched enough in the face enough as it
BY THE REALITY THAT HE GOES TO SCHOOL IN A SHITTY TOWN WITH NO GIRLS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
he moved in last saturday
joined a frat on tuesday. and moved into the frat house on wednesday. fast paced, eh?
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I guess frats are the way to go there, if you want to be social at all
I couldn’t even imagine myself in one here…
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Graduates in October?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 23, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
pretty much.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 23, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Also: Everybody who considers themselves a nerd/geek at all needs to see Scott Pilgrim. Now.
It’s absolutely fucking fantastic
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Saw it with my wife
And enjoyed the heck out of it. Very funny stuff (though it will probably resonate best with young folks).
Albert Sneaks Towards Triple Crown
Just thought I’d throw this out there. Albert is currently:
- .316 AVG (4th)
- 32 HRs (1st)
- 89 RBIs (1st)
Oh, truth in advertising. Votto is right there with him in all three categories. But I can’t help but think of Albert as a “Triple Crown Stealth Bomber” this year.
it's crazy how for like 2 months it seemed like a lot of people were wondering if Pujols was already in decline
and now he’s got a good chance at the triple crown
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
well, he's always had a chance at the tirple crown
it’s always the bizarre outliers, hitting 58 (or 50) home runs as a rookie, batting .346 as a 36yo, etc, that have prevented it.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
seems like this is the year to do it
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
well, if not now, soon.
otherwise he’ll be the one relying on luck to make it happen
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
yeah, that's the thing
the best hitter has to be lucky, and everyone else has to be “not extremely lucky”.
That’s why it almost never happens. Though Jon Jay has a good shot at it, next year.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
missed saying "barry bonds" as an outlier. but, yeah.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
it was a legitimate concern
but he’s been the same old albert for a while now
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i havent gotten to see,
other than box scores, his PA been better?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
i got no stats
i just know he’s looked much better
seems like he hasn’t K’d in ages
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i havent gottent to see an at bat
not really looking at stats…cause he was chasing alot there for a bit…
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
The last 28 days, he has struck out 6 times
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This is not the Sponge Bob Square Pants theme song
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 23, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Okay.... My friend just posted this on Facebook
BIZARRE
by Mulliganstew on Aug 23, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
it's been blowing up my twitter feed since friday
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Yeah, I'm really digging this song
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i want to blast it as loud as i can, but the cops have been to my neighbors twice this weekend
and i don’t want anyone calling them on me
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
danup
thanks for the mention in the post, i know i’m nto the greatest writer, but i had fun remembering my first few cards games and the teams
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Once again, DanUp
welcome to beautiful Colorado.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 23, 2010 1:53 AM EDT reply actions
thanks! it's been pretty beautiful so far
The second day I was in town I walked around town all day and it was so mild I failed to realize it was 90 and sunny out.
The sunburns have just now subsided.
hope this roadtrip goes well
or it could be real brutal…but tis time to see cincy slide a bit, or philly…my bets on cincy before philly though…
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
speaking as nycbirdo, i would ask...
have you ever MET a mets or yankees fan? staying true to the cards up here is easier than you might think.
true dat, many are quite unfriendly, down right hostile folk
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
actually currently dating a yankees fan (who works for the NFL)
very weird. I’m trying to turn her into an angels fan, just so she has a nice wardrobe of red clothes to wear, but she associates red with the red sox, so it’s a nonstarter.
sigh. just isn’t going to happen, I’m afraid.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Why try to turn her into an Angels fan when you can try to turn her into a Cardinals fan?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 23, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe she likes the idea of a DH?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 23, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It's doomed to end badly; Yanks and Cards fans never get along in the long run.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 23, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
that could explain why i'm always fighting with myself,,,,
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
yea we need him back bad....
The last update I saw was that article over the weekend on the Cardinals website. It said ‘the good news is Colby doesn’t think he will have to go on the DL, but he likely won’t be back until sometime (this) week’.
by mick311 on Aug 23, 2010 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
condensed jaime gem
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11274101
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Thanks for the mention DanUp!
I don’t want to beat a dead horse but I highly recommend OOTP to everyone here. If you’re like me and always thought being a GM of a baseball would be awesome, this game is for you. It is very fun and addicting and also very realistic. I would check out the demo if you haven’t. I mentioned to DanUp if the cost of the game is a concern, it is possible to share a copy of the game between two people. Each purchase comes with two licenses so members could pool money together and play that way. I absolutely love OOTP and I really think everyone here would as well. If you are interested please let me know over at the FanPost, email or teh twitterz.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
these fanpost roundups are great
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
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