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Carp's Body Art, Kyle Lohse's scar

I figured the other side of baseball can't break your heart and we've been talking about this for a little while, (UpBaby, I want to put your SB Nation St Louis article to shame haha) so even though this is not really fanpost material, here's my count on Carp's tattoos: 4. And I need to learn to tell the difference between left and right. Typical.

And if you guys know me at all, you know there will be pictures (that I stole from somewhere)

1. Let's start with the one we all know about but we have yet to see in its entirety: the non-pitching arm tattoo. Dan will allow me to steal a little from him too... The original Columbia Daily Tribune article from April 2009 indicating Carp got the tattoo in the 2008 offseason:

The new tattoo spreads over half the arm displaying his family via astrological signs. There’s a lion for his daughter, a Leo. A crab for his wife, a Cancer. An arch for his son, a Sagittarius. A bull for himself, a Taurus.

"It’s something I’ve been thinking about for a few years," Carpenter said. "My wife helped me come up with it.

"She loves it, and so do the kids."

I've been lurking for a little bit trying to catch a shot of that tattoo when the pitching staff throws around during batting practice, but so far no luck.

This photo below is from July 25th and was taken by Nam Y.Huh (AP)

Photo below was taken Aug 21st by Chris Lee of the PD. Someone on the Cards staff, please continue shortening his sleeves, thank you.

I also stole this from somewhere and forgot to take a note from where:

It reveals the back side of the arm. I flipped them and tried to enlarge and sharpen it a little but it's not really great

Update Jan 15th 2011: What can I say, I am awesome.. because boys and girls, a VEB exclusive (or at least the first full frame of it I've ever seen), Mr Carpenter himself allowed me to take this photo at the 2011 Cardinals Care Winter Warmup. I am surprised he didn't chase me away with security but I told him it goes in an article (yes, I will call this an article) and he agreed. Thank you, Carp, for being a good sport!!

2. The much talked about Aug 10th brawl revealed the top of a tattoo on his pitching arm too. The scar wasn't bad ass enough? I don't have a better screen cap right now but I'll try again later

3. This next one - a small tattoo on Carp's ring finger - is a weird one, not because of what it is, but because of its timing. I noticed it in a July 3rd photo by Jeff Roberson (AP) when Carp took a beating by the Brewers and was pulled in the 4th.

Enlarged:

In case this still needs explaining Carp's wife's name is Alyson and I thought I remembered it was two dots for their two kids, but it looks like three, so either they have one on the way, or means something else or means nothing - it's their business.

And since I already felt like a stalker for even noticing that, I thought I'd go on a little investigation of when exactly it appeared. It seems quite strange for a pitcher to get a tattoo on his hand mid season, right?

Remember the little Apil 21st Edwin Jackson incident that caused the benches to clear and was the birth of possibly the most awesome meme of all time - CCDGAF? Here is a cap of Carp's left hand from that game - nothing

Then there was this June 1st photo by Scott Rovak (who is a photography genius, please don't sue me for borrowing this) - and here he already has it:

During the time the @MLBSTLCardinals was bombarding us with the celebrity Stand For Stan photos, there was a photo of Carp posted May 28th:

So I guess it appeared in the week between May 21st and May 28th - now we know Carp is even more bad ass - getting a tattoo mid-season means he can do whatever he wants and DGAF.

4. The last mystery tattoo that I had only heard a mention of but never saw proof of, I accidentally ran across today. Credit goes to 101ESPN Radio St Louis WXOS's Facebook page. From what I can tell it's an actual carp fish and other stuff I can't make out and it's huge. I don't know if it's even actually finished at the time the photo was taken (Spring Training 2010) but here it is:

Yes, Chris Carpenter is mighty badass!

And now let's win some ball games so we can enjoy baseball again. Go Cards!

Update 12/09/2010 Carp's getting more bad ass at 9:30 in the morning (props to FSNM for sneaking in for this)

There's a video part 1and video part 2, as well as part 3, part 4 and part 5 Story behind the leg tattoo in Carp's words:

"about determination and perseverance, what I've gone through in my life [..] it's a Japanese koi fish, has nothing to do with people calling me Carp"


Tattoo artist explains that in Japan the koi is a royal fish that constantly swims upstream and has features of a dragon. Carp's tattoo is of a a twin koi with one is swimming up and the other down, and it's also about Chris' family and him being two different people on and off the field. So there you have it, no more mystery

5. New tattoo showed up on the back of Carp's other calf in Spring Training 2012. We'll have to investigate :)

Star-divide

Bonus: especially for Yadi2Second who was asking for a screenshot of Kyle Lohse's scar. I found a decent shot of the whole thing in some of the pictures I took at Busch, so here you go:

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"What exactly is that thing? A pessimism meter?" - Bruce McCurdy

by hazel on Aug 18, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it, I'm 5'11"

it’ll never work out.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Aug 18, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you found the koi one!

that was the one I wanted to see. it’s got to be colored in by now — but since it’s a multi-visit job, he must be just getting random tattoos every time he goes back.

you’re badass, d-dee. merit badge.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 18, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

(needs a Player Tag)

I gotta stick this in my Carpenter fanpost.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 18, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

argh, it's not even sbn, it's me

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/tags/chris-carpenter-is-badass

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 18, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is why I wanted to see it... from infokoi.com

aka … carp.

[fake blockquote]

Well, Koi fish symbolize different traits. The meaning of Koi fish symbols that is most often used in interpretations is taken from Japanese symbology. As you may well know, the Japanese give different meanings to different animals. The Japanese base their interpretation of the meaning of Koi fish symbols on the characteristics and behavior of the fish itself.

The Japanese consider the Koi to be the most energetic of fishes. This is because it is constantly moving, often churning up water. In fact, some countries are trying to minimize the Koi population because of its tendency to mess up waterways by stirring up the substrate.

The Koi is also able to fight the current of the water and swim upstream.

This can be interpreted in two ways:

   1. Being a non-conformist – Koi swimming upstream can be interpreted as showing the philosophy of non-conformism because of the fact that the Koi does not "go with the flow". This can mean a person is very independent minded and does not do things the way they are expected of him or her. Swimming upstream can mean that a person is not easily influenced by others and does what he or she wants.
   2. Strength in time of adversity – Koi fish also symbolizes persistence and the willingness to go on even though you are being swept away. It also symbolizes surpassing expectations. The Koi fish swimming upriver can show that a person has overcome various obstacles and not only does he or she keep standing, but he or she has come out victorious.
[/fake blockquote]

look up Children’s Day, too.

bonus carp video in 3D.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 18, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

i totally want to electrocute the mississippi river now

Chris Carpenter for Manager
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker, on Jason Motte

by BVHeck on Aug 18, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

that dude got hit in the nuts by a giant fish

lolz

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean

by shadetree on Aug 20, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

also pun in Japanese. Different kanji, but the term "koi" means love as well as "carp."

Japanese kakejiku (scrolls) that feature “koi” sometimes are symbolic of love themes.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Aug 22, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

while canoeing on the Missouri River

with a group of friends, we were bombarded by jumping koi. Almost every canoe had half a dozen koi in it. Multiple people got hit in the head with 2ft+ long fish. Luckily I was the last canoe in the group so I just paddled back and didn’t get caught in the flying fish storm. It was so hilarious to watch though.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Aug 25, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw something about that on River Monsters

but it was the Illinois River they focused on.

It was about how a native species can take over an entire river or an area. The actual episode was about an air breathing/land walking fish called a tiger fish or something. Basically a pirahna the size of a trout.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Aug 25, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

snakeheads

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what it was

vicious little creature.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Aug 25, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are a few clubs on the IL river that go "fishing"

but shooting carp with a crossbow while they’re in mid air.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Aug 29, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's pretty awesome!

cool tats Carp. I should get some work done in the near future on my 2 that are both like 2/3 of the way done.

thanks for another quality fanpost, d-dee!

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Aug 18, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

@MLBSTLCardinals was bombarding us with the celebrity Stand For Stan photos

that was so awful

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Aug 19, 2010 2:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Am I the only one

who finds this a little creepy?

by El Hombre on Aug 19, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

why is it so creepy?

oh, have you seen VEB’s new van?

Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made

by gdm426 on Aug 19, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i wasn't sure if I should rec this fanpost or flag it

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Aug 19, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez relax

we’ve been talking about those tattoo’s for a while
it’s not like i camped in front of the guy’s house with a telephoto lens and a ski mask
these are all pictures from our local media
flag the post if you want

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 19, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you need to relax

we were both joking.

Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.

- John Wayne

by Tackle Box on Aug 19, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

we can all relax by vanning

Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made

by gdm426 on Aug 19, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't go a knockin

if gdm & fredbirds’s van is a rockin

I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.

Fire John Mozeliak

by mattyfrommo on Aug 19, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya, like that will ever happen

Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made

by gdm426 on Aug 19, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

you just need to get fredbird drunk

I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.

Fire John Mozeliak

by mattyfrommo on Aug 21, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

....

Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made

by gdm426 on Aug 22, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

aww,

Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made

by gdm426 on Aug 19, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey now

"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial

"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson

"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean

by shadetree on Aug 20, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was mostly

noticing the finger tat that creeped me out. I looked at that picture and was expected to see a tattoo. I did not see it until I read further down that it was on his finger. You must pay very close attention to detail.

by El Hombre on Aug 19, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was pure coincidence because that picture was originally huge

and it was easy to see since there’s not a lot going on
and then i got curious

i take about 3000 pictures every month so i am used to looking for details
and i don’t own a van or night vision goggles

..i miss ludriguez-wick..

by d-dee on Aug 19, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its ok

The posts like this are appreciated :)

by El Hombre on Aug 19, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any chance that the one on his leg isn't a Koi

and actually a CARP????

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Aug 25, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

same thing.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Aug 25, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is one big leg tattoo

Great Odin's Raven I love Mike "The Predator" Dixon!

by pinkelposse on Aug 26, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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