rosterfarianism
the american expletives corporation announced friday afternoon that it had renewed its contract with spokesperson chris carpenter of the st. louis cardinals.
a company spokesperson said: "nobody puts our product in front of the consumer like chris carpenter. In just the last week, we've seen sudden spikes in demand for products used publicly by mr. carpenter, like:
'way to fucking play.'
'get out of here, fucker.'
'man, fuck the reds!'
'shut the fuck up, you old ass motherfucker. if you weren't 900 fucking years old I'd kick your ass myself. i'm nobody's fucking bitch, and i'll fight every motherfucker on your fucking team. fuck!' and
'hey, scotty, watch my fucking pitching arm!'"
due to increased demand for these and other products, the american expletives corporation announced that they would be opening a new shit factory in o'fallon, ill., despite the uncertain economic outlook in other sectors.
the company spokesperson would not comment on rumors that AEC planned to generate capital by spinning-off its controversial children's line of products into a publicly-traded corporation named "little bitches, inc."
all is not well in the linguistics products industry, however, with Rat-Based Similies, LLC closing its doors after 90 years in business. the company hit its peak in the 30's and 40's with its james cagney-inspired catchphrase "you dirty rat." In 1952, Rat-Based Similies lost a costly intellectual property suit for rights to the popular catchphrase to Rat Metaphors, Inc., almost bankrupting the company.
now, decreased demand has doomed RBS. "young people just don't seem to use phrases like 'as filthy as a rat' or 'cornered like a rat' or 'hungry as a sewer rat' anymore," said the RBS chairman. "pity."
it's time for us to think a little about the 40-man, as the roster gets a bit more crowded. our 40-man looks like the table below. penny and lohse are on the 60-day DL, so there are 42 players listed below. that also means that someone will have to be optioned, go through waivers, or be released when/if lohse or penny come back.
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Starting Pitchers |
Relief Pitchers |
Infielders/Catchers |
Outfielders/Catchers |
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Carpenter |
Franklin |
Pujols |
Mather |
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Wainwright |
Miller |
Schumaker |
Holliday |
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Lohse |
Reyes# |
T. Greene |
Jay |
|
J. Garcia |
Boggs |
B. Ryan |
Craig |
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P. Walters |
Motte |
D. Freese |
Robinson* |
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B. Penny# |
McClellan |
Hamilton* |
Stavinoha* |
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J. Westbrook# |
MacDougal# |
Lopez# |
D. Jones* |
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Suppan# |
Hawksworth |
Miles# |
Rasmus |
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Maclane* |
Salas |
Molina |
Winn# |
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Ottavino |
Samuel* |
Pagnozzi* |
Hill |
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Larue# |
Anderson |
players marked with a # are free agents at the end of the season. players marked with a * are candidates to be removed from the roster.
so, how much space do we need? well, rule 5 eligibility includes anyone who, when drafted was, 18 or younger who has been in the org for 5 years. anyone who was 19 or older at the time of drafting who has spent 4 years with the team will be eligible.
the 2006 draft class is here - feel free to review and point out players i have missed. ditto the 2007 draft class. basically, the whole 2006 class is now exposed to the draft, and any of the 2007 class who were 19 or older - college or juco types.
a random assortment of names of interest from the 2006 class:
Tommy Pham
Jon Edwards
Mark Diapoules
Casey Mulligan
D'Marcus Ingram
James Rapoport
Nick Additon
David Carpenter
pham is a toolsy type who is finally putting it together this season. he's been murdering left-handers, which would make him an interesting prospect for our outfield. he has followers and detractors in the prospect-watching community. i'd say he's a decent candidate going forward, but given that he's only made it to palm beach, he'd be very hard to hide on a ML or even AAA roster.a promotion to the springfield or memphis roster by the end of the year would probably keep him safe. none of edwards, diapoules, nor ingram are that interesting to me.
mulligan has put up some good numbers, but lots of folks think his stuff will not translate to the majors. beware his 5.12 walk rate at springfield this season. rapoport was a college sign and thus exposed last year; probably the same will happen again. he was promoted to memphis this year and has not risen to the challenge. additon has done okay, but doesn't seem like a future ML starter. david carpenter is another name where the player has had some nice performances, but still doesn't seem like a major leaguer going forward. his numbers are fine at palm beach but should be taken with a "25-years-old-at-palm-beach-in-my-fourth-season-of-pro-ball" flavored grain of salt.
the paucity of names bespeaks the extent to which this club has relied heavily on college types, so let's get to the meat of the matter:
the 2007 class:
David Kopp
Dan Descalso
Kyle Russell
Thomas Eager
Oliver Marmol
Tyler Henley
Adam Reifer
Chuck Fick
Andrew Brown
Sam Freeman
Tony Cruz
Nick Derba
Adron Chambers
there are some much nicer names on this list. note that two biggish names drafted in 2007 - kozma and hooker -- are high schoolers and thus not eligible till next year. though sam freeman appears on the 2007 list, i believe we only actually signed him after drafting him a second time in 2008, so he won't be eligible for the rule 5 draft this time round.
three names jump out at me pretty quickly. dan descalso could be a backup infielder in 2011, and maybe something more going forward. his ceiling may be limited, but he's a solid player. at the other end of the list, adron chambers is a name to watch. recently promoted to memphis, he's showing signs of adapting well, notwithstanding a ridiculous BABIP. chambers is another speedy left-hander in the jon jay mold, with somewhat less power, with ridiculously good defense in the corners, capable in CF. he reads like a bench outfielder, though he may be capable of more. RF tyler henley is also a fairly easy choice; he had a hot start in springfield, followed by a crash in memphis and then TJ surgery. he's been a very solid prospect so far, and there's no reason to think he won't return from TJ as good as ever. none of these guys are superstars in the making, but very solid roleplayers, and you can't beat the price. not overpaying for these guys is how a team affords the hollidays and pujolses of the world; spending a roster spot on them is cheap wages.
david kopp, second round pick in 2007, has been an intriguing name. he's had a lot of fans in the prospect community, but has not really put it together. i'm not sure that i'd jump out to protect kopp at this point. if he's on the memphis roster at the end of the year, i really can't see him sticking even as a twelfth pitcher on a major league team. he doesn't strike out enough guys (runs about 6 k/9, a little lower this year), he walks too many given how few he strikes out (about 3.5 bb/9). he used to get the outrageous groundball rates (60% and 55% cumulatively in 09 and 08) he'd need to make up for those two deficits, but this year it's down to 46.8%. if left unprotected, he could be an interesting chit for another team, but i'd bet against anyone taking him and actually keeping him all season. still, it would be best to err on the side of protecting him. he may be having a down year and be able to adjust going forward.
i like tony cruz a lot, although i am probably in the minority that sees him playing the role of jason larue if anderson were traded or injured. fairly handy with the bat (an .856 OPS at Springfield, for a .635 MLE, which is . . . backup catcherish), his defense has improved: he had a 53% CS rate last year, and a 54% this year across two levels - much better than hill, anderson, or pagnozzi. give him a year or two and he might make it. you could get away with putting him at memphis, most likely, but he's not a crazy candidate for the 40-man roster. i'd rather see him in september than pagnozzi. in fact, as much as i like hill's bat, i think cruz is a hell of a lot more interesting as a player because he might plausibly play catcher on more than an emergency basis.
adam reifer (k/9 - 9.3; bb/9 - 2.4 at springfield) is a promising reliever and is close enough to the show that he probably merits protection. he's shown great improvements in his control this year, which makes him unique among our relief prospects.
so, where does this leave us? we probably need 4-6 spots on the roster (plus 2 for our 60-day guys). i won't be shocked if we re-sign westbrook, letting suppan and penny go. i hope we've seen the last of macdougal, and i have no idea whether dennys stays or not, but we'll need a LOOGY of some sort. so, there's 3 spots open in the pitching corps without breaking a sweat.
i would love to see lopez come back on a 2y/$6m deal. miles and larue are free to go, with anderson and descalso or greene filling their spots. winn can also walk, as far as i'm concerned. that gives us 6 spots just through free agent attrition, which pretty much covers us right there.
a little elbow room would be nice, so it may make some sense to clear the roster before the deadline to allow for our own rule 5 pickups, free agents, and players not eligible for rule 5 like matt carpenter to join the team. maclane, for instance, strikes me as fairly inessential. tony's comments were fairly telling when maclane arrived - something to the effect of "i just asked for a pitcher and this is what they sent." maclane is depth and not much more.
samuel, while he has a nice ceiling, has never put his control together (currently sporting 26 walks across three levels and 29 innings). hamilton has a lot of talent at hitting but not at staying healthy; if he can't be shifted in a trade, he's very expendable. both have real potential, samuel moreso than hamilton, but both have to show that they can hack it at a major league level and soon.
pagnozzi and stavinoha, on the other hand, are not going to ever be any better than what they are. both will be 28 by the time of the draft, past the time for development. i always read mo's comment that stavinoha had "nothing to prove at AAA" as a two-edged comment. yes, he's too good to play at memphis. but if he doesn't hack it at the ML level when given a chance, he really doesn't have a place in the org. nothing stavinoha did this year, other than showing the effect of random chance on BABIP, suggests that he belongs on an ML team. pagnozzi regressed to a .590 OPS at memphis, and, if he's a good defender, his 24% and 27% CS rates in 09 and 10 don't show it. he should just be done.
shane robinson remains eminently replaceable; i'm not sure what he does that rapoport or three other outfield prospects don't do, and robinson is coming off an injury. daryl jones is coming off a serious down year, and his prospecthood is being questioned. there's probably no harm in giving him another year, but the left-handed outfielder compartment on this train is getting very full. he'll have to rediscover his 2008 power if he wants to stand out before the end of 2011.
there are a further 7 names that could be cleared, fairly painlessly, off the roster, although hamilton, jones, and samuel still have some value and would be my last choices to remove. we have tons of room, should we need it. one reason is that 2007 just wasn't a very good draft year. the most interesting prospects in the system are either already protected or came from later drafts. the pieces on the verge of joining the club are solid players though, with a reasonable chance for success.
footnote - two names missing above are josh kinney and eduardo sanchez, who were signed as an amateur free agents, one from the frontier league, one from venezuela. i'm not sure entirely how amateur signings are affected by rule 5, but i believe both are exposed this year. the good news is that kinney actually has put together a quietly good season, after being demoted from the big club - a highish walk rate in 2009 has dropped to 2.4 per 9 innings this season, with a k rate above 8. sanchez is having a strong season as well, splitting time between springfield and memphis, though his small-sample-size numbers at memphis are a little concerning. either or both of them may be worth putting on the roster before september. i'd rather see either of them in september than, say, samuel, macdougal, or maclane.
those are my initial, only semi-educated takes on the roster. take a look at the 2006 and 2007 drafts. did i miss anyone worth considering? anyone we absolutely should keep? absolutely shouldn't keep? remember that we aren't deciding who stays with the club, just whether we think that there's a decent risk another team lays claim to the player and keeps him.
if you are unfamiliar with the ins and outs of rule 5, wikipedia has a good explanation.
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First, I just wanted to say, excellent article.
There’s some good stuff here that I hadn’t really considered (or known much about) regarding system depth. The lead in stuff is amusing as well. Carp simply doesn’t give a fuck.
On the roster prospects, I’ll agree that Stavinoha has no place on the roster. He’s taking up valuable real estate, so to speak. Pags is likely in a similar boat, although you really can’t ever have enough catching depth. I suppose Motte’s positional flexibility cancels that out though, right? I’m being mostly sarcastic, of course – I think we actually have respectable catching depth in the organization. Certainly enough to let Pagnozzi go.
I might post again later after I look at some things, but thanks again for an interesting piece of work here, even if the lack of capitalization makes my left eyeball twitch uncontrollably.
Yeah, good review
I never know anything about the 40 man roster, but it’s important overall obviously.
I really hope we can clear Stav off the roster. Dammit.
My stock in AEC is !$#% skrocketing.
Also, since this 'is' about the roster...
Aaron Miles Rest of Season Projections:
.250 / .284 / .289 slash line, good for a .258 wOBA.
Spectacular, isn’t it? I’m just glad we haven’t seen him in a few days. I wonder how the team is reacting to having the exact same lineup 4 straight days? Some of the utility guys have to want a bit of playing time, but, at the same time, it’s also been 4 straight wins. I look for a bit of a lineup shuffle today, and quite possibly a Miles start.
in all seriousness
sombody shoulda asked Mo in yesterdays twitter chat if they completely ignore SABR….or even slash stats or had some proprietary stat that justified Miles….
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Not only promoted to Springfield
But he is hitting quite well (.900+ OPS in almost 120 ABs). Still a short sample, and one reminiscent of Daryl Jones first mid-season callup to AA, but an impressive AA debut so far to be sure. Last night he was an absolute monster: 4-5, 2B, 2HR. I am sure he certainly will be protected this fall (as he should be).
Sign Austin Wilson!
Ottavino can go on the 60 day DL to create some space for Lohse
Maclane is probably the next guy to get bumped off the 40 man roster even though he is having a good year down in Memphis.
Freese too.
He’s only on the 15-day DL, but clearly will be out for more than 60 days.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Aug 14, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes but that just us through
to the end of the season. When the Rule V draft comes along, that is when the Cards face a massive crunch on the 40 man roster. It will be interesting to see how JMo handles it.
I love how the beginning has almost a Monty python feel
Although if Mott python had Carp it would be more like “this fucking parrot was in his fucking perch because he had been fucking nailed there!”
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 14, 2010 8:48 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
"master of the crane technique"
thanks for today’s facebook status
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
If the Mario triplets (they look the same, shiggityshigggityshwah!)
Were all three gone next year I would be happy. Maybe Stav to the Cubs, Sup to the Reds and Miles to the ’stros(fingers crossed)
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 14, 2010 8:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Rat Based Similes
"They had him pinned up like a rat in corner," Dusty Baker said. "It wasn’t pretty."
I really hope Casey Mulligan makes it to the big club soon...
I wanna see the thriller dance at Busch.
"When a pitcher's throwing a spitball, don't worry and don't complain, just hit the dry side like I do." - Stan Musial
"When I knocked a guy down, there was no second part to the story." - Bob Gibson
"Son, what kind of pitch would you like to miss." - Dizzy Dean
nice...im glad u knew it was him
that was hilarious
by guillermozeliak on Aug 14, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
nice post, enjoyed
kind of got me thinking about my list to santa a little early
my list includes hamilton. i’ve watched him in spring games for the last couple years and he has one of the best looking swings in camp. just has to find someplace to stand for those pesky half innings in the field
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Professional Pinch Hitter...?
could that be a possibility? He could be next year’s Stavi…except stay on the bench because Albert will look at Tony funny, then Tony will think twice, or three times, about putting Hamilton out there.
no way you pay Hamilton that much money
just to PH
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
i think hamilton could be a garrett jones type...
problem, of course, is the major league depth chart at positions he could play.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
real possibility
only saw him at first, so no feel for him in the outfield
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
tom s. was waiting for this moment.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Jim Rapoport aka "is that the bat boy?"
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tim K is one of us
if we were truly geeky baseball geeks. aww, Timmy.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm a big fan of mr. timmy
way, way ahead of buster olney in my book.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 14, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
That's the thing about box scores
I’ve NEVER enjoyed them in the newspaper, there are too many missing.
Oh, you know what?
We should email him and explain the magic of cut and paste into documents he can keep forever.
Timmeh strikes me as a tactile learner.
like Dave Duncan’s got to have binders.
though I think DD does do quite a bit of computer work nowadays.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 14, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i have a feeling
he already understands how that works.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Or he could just print out the box-scores and then cut them out.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
not the same
it’s like listening to vinyl instead of MP3s. Or reading books instead of using an E-Reader.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
not the same
it’s like listening to vinyl instead of MP3s. Or reading books instead of using an E-Reader.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
not the same
it’s like listening to vinyl instead of MP3s. Or reading books instead of using an E-Reader.
Don't say hi to me.
not the same
it’s like listening to vinyl instead of MP3s. Or reading books instead of using an E-Reader.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
not the same
it’s like listening to vinyl instead of MP3s. Or reading books instead of using an E-Reader.
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
not the same
it’s like listening to vinyl instead of MP3s. Or reading books instead of using an E-Reader.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
it's the same.
like listening to vinyl instead of MP3s. Or reading books instead of using an E-Reader.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
I'm going to retort all of these with
“Any port in a storm.”
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
you still use ports?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Sorry pj, I haven't played D&D since I was about 15.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
...
that has nothing to do with D&D
at least not that i’m aware of. i’ve never played it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I know it doesn't.
That just had a D&D sound to it. I could’ve used a reference to picking up a girl in a bar, but that didn’t sound geeky enough.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a helluva beverage.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
did
the same thing with michael jordan articles back in the day. i’m sure that box is still hidden in my parents’ house somewhere
by martimeryard on Aug 14, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Timmy K is great
My closet was a shambles, the top shelf had collapsed from the weight of 15 years of box-score books, two books per year, a total of 30. My suits were on the floor, covered with plaster and covered with box scores from 1990. Two suits were ruined, which was especially troubling since it’s hard to find size 32 short anywhere other than Nordstrom For Kids.
I have a scrap book that some of my older uncles put together when they were kids. All kinds of Cardinals clippings in there. I have several complete newspapers from Cards World Series in the 80’s. A shame that’s coming to an end.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. I can relate to the clothes thing...
I’ve pretty much given up looking for pants with a 30 waist, 28 leg in stores now. At least they have the internet now.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
My favorite line was
I estimate I have lost at least six pairs of scissors because I forgot to remove them and the security men and women and the airports thought I might hijack a plane using scissors that were as dull as NFL pre-season games.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
forgot about that whole having to option someone for lohse thing
i would assume macdougal is first in line?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 14, 2010 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
i would think stav actually
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
holy crap, stav is actually on the roster.
thank you, tony, for making me forget that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 14, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i would also think salas before Macdougal
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
sadly true
macky-d has a lot more history of fail than salas can accumulate in just the rest of this season
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
not only that
if you option Salas, he is gone for 17 days. If you DFA D-Mac, he is gone forever.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
They would move Octavino or Freese to the 60 day DL first
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
its the 25 man crunch that klohse will cause
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
...to DFA TLR
Either
Salas or Mike MacDougal if they want to stay at 12 pitchers.
We also have 6 OFer’s on this roster
So most likely Craig or Stav will be optioned. Or Winn would be released
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm thinking it's a pitcher
considering stav just got here (and doesn’t usually take the craig treatment), optioning craig would be, among other things, just flat out stupid, and taking winn out of the equation would cause him to be released, and IMO he’s at least been serviceable.
salas or macdougal. IMO it’s got to be macdougal, but who the hell knows what’s going on in tlr-iak’s mind.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 14, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
TLR apparently about lost last night when they brought in Salas
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Really?
Is there reporting on this?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Aug 14, 2010 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They were talking about it on the radio last night
He also lost it when they brought in Blakesworth
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Because it was weird genius enough for him.
He can’t stand doing things the plain, old, boring, straight up way.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
why does it have to be MacDougal?
Salas get’s to come back on sep 1st if he is optioned. Macdougal won’t.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Both the 40 man and the 25 man roster are impacted by Lohse's return
moving Freese to the 60 day DL solves the 40 man problem.
for the 25 man issue, either Salas is headed back to Memphis or MacDougal is dfa’d and the Cards work with him on a minor league assignment for two weeks. MacDougal could be picked up by another team through the waiver process (I doubt it since STL is his third team this season) or he could choose to just head home for the season and collect his paycheck instead of spending time on the minor league bus.
Due to the twin curses of work and the return of the Premier League Football season
I will be unable to attend the game thread for tonight, for this i am deeply sorry as my incredible insights e.g. GOOOO CRADS and COLBERIN TIME, will surely be sorely missed. In my stead i offer this simple message:
GO CARDS WHUP THE SCHLUBS
100% Sober, 40% of the time
by Aranathor on Aug 14, 2010 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
whatever you contribute will work
on a similar note, i’ll be around for today, but i might not be around for tomorrow because i’m moving in to my college dorm.
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
by zoomzoomj88 on Aug 14, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Your mom goes to college.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
rochester college
in rochester hills. (you might know where it is, but nobody else will)
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
I got up at 4:30 this morning to watch the Spurs-Man City match.
Not bad, but I wish one side had scored.
"Now that's how you talk. You don't talk to the newspapers, you talk to the baseball." -- Shannon
Agreed. I think the team is feeling the pressure that is on Mancini.
How’s that for jackleg psychologizing?
I had the Spurs for the match, though I do like City too.
"Now that's how you talk. You don't talk to the newspapers, you talk to the baseball." -- Shannon
Cueto's penalty will have little effect on the Reds
Apologies if this has been discussed already. The Reds, as the Cards, had an off-day on Thursday and will have one on Monday. By dropping his appeal, Cueto serves his suspension immediately. So, he can not pitch for seven games – Weds. was the first, then three against Florida this weekend, then 3 in Arizona from Tues-Thurs. But, with the two off-days, the Reds can simply juggle their rotation. The other 4 starters simply get one day less rest but no one is forced to pitch on 3 days rest and the Reds are not forced to start someone who hasn’t been starting. One of these effects would seem to be the typical consequence of a 7-game suspension, but the two off-days mean there is virtually no penalty to the Reds for Cueto’s actions. What a joke!!!
that's full of awesome and patheticness all at the same time.
and probably the only reason tony did that. i don’t actually think larue will be out all that long, but they knew they could take him off the DL whenever they wanted to.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 14, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
even though it's actually thursday.
soup can come off the dl monday.
follow me on twitter @nickg105, @Rams_Fan_Voice
by stlcardinalsfang on Aug 14, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
actually, Flim
LaRue played in the game Aug. 3 (the blowout loss to Houston), so I don’t think he can come off the DL until Aug. 19.
OH
I was thinking his last game was the 1st
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Addition by subtraction of Additon?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Aug 14, 2010 12:23 PM EDT reply actions
I missed the return of the Walkapotomoose last night :(
0-0 4 BB
Awesome
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
The same amount of walks he had in July
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
It's almost like walks are homework for Colby
He’ll put them off for a long time like some sort of science project, then do them all at once. Oh wait, maybe that’s just how I got through school…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Aug 14, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So is there a possibility they could try Hamilton in the OF?
It seems like with the way he can hit if that was a possibility they would have already tried it.
by mick311 on Aug 14, 2010 12:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
not to be THAT guy
But the Cards didn’t sign Kyle Russell and he was drafted and signed by the Dodgers the next year.
/mlb draft nerdiness.
Future Redbirds! www.futureredbirds.net
Rams Gab! www.ramsgab.com
New old stock
of several gross of ratfucks. My dad gave them to me.
Put 'em on Craigslist
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
My uncle has tons of rat-bastards in his garage
I looked them up on eBay and they’re not really worth much. I told him to just hang on to them, cause you never know.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ratbastard isn't nearly used as much as it should be, neither is icouldgivearatsass
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Speaking of DL / roster moves
anyone heard about Motte’s progress? I think he’s eligible to come off the DL mid-next week.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions
no word if he has chewed through his restraints
yet
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 14, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not sure how his defense is but would anyone else be in favor of us picking up Encarnacion?
He cleared waivers and could help give Floppy a little rest/time off at third.
by mick311 on Aug 14, 2010 1:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
The world is ending-
BJRains Same Cards lineup for a fifth straight game: Lopez, Jay, Pujols, Holliday, Rasmus, Molina, Schumaker, Carpenter, Ryan
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
next thing you'll tell me there'll be a game thread on time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Everyone knows it's a 3:10 start, right?
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
And it's going to be really fucking hot.
With a possible side order of thunderstorms.
Worst of all, there will be a bunch of Cubs fans at Busch. Wish me luck.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Did it rain a ton last night?
I went to bed early but my father said his pool was overflowing when he woke up.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it rained like hell last night.
Starting around 1am -ish, I think.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i now have water in my newly remodeled basement
I’m not a happy evilfrog. Some one is going to die for this.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
I guess I just assumed water in a basement would delight an evilfrog.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Must be a dry-land frog.
Would a horny toad qualify?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't a horny toad really a lizard?
Any TCU alums around?
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it is.
But it likes dry, arid places like our Evilfrog apparently does.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it's a lizard.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
but you're a frog—
ohhhh. you’re evil. right.
sorry to hear about it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if you're looking for victims, i've got a list
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Wow
And TLR is making out the lineup, right. Superstition at it’s best.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
superstition?
I think there is something wrong. We need to call a doctor Tony may not make it the rest of the season.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Paging Dr. Paletta..
there’s no use..he’ll be misdiagnosed. i’d still take a crazed TLR for the W
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Aug 14, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa...
My avatar twin! Azru is gonna be so mad.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
aw dang
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Aug 14, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm totally fine with it
But Azruavatar gets notoriously confused by people changing avatars, so I don’t even know what it’ll do to him if there are two of us running around.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Maybe we should all change to your avatar just to fuck with him
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 14, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
now that's an evil idea
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
by Evilfrog on Aug 14, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
its my first avatar. i don't even look at them when i read this.
names are handily dandily right below everything
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Aug 14, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
you went through..
the scary door
I thought I told you to trim those sideburns!
by martimeryard on Aug 14, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa dude.
now i am confused.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I'm always confused too....
cause your avatar looks like a little man waving a flag.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
CAN'T UNSEE
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh good grief
someone else did this to me a long time ago. it’s a cardinal. =)
ugh. haha. now i’m seeing it too.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
I'd like a rush order from the American Expletives Corp. please.
BJRains If Molina needs a game off tomorrow, Cards will recall Matt Pagnozzi from Triple-A. La Russa said starting Hill would be “unfair” to all. 5 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ugh. BJRains, you're bringin' me down.
BJRains If Molina needs a game off tomorrow, Cards will recall Matt Pagnozzi from Triple-A. La Russa said starting Hill would be “unfair” to all.
BJRains La Russa hinted that slumping Lopez may need a break. He said Miles and Craig would be the two options at 3B.
Anderson is banged up right now, isn’t he? Super bad timing.
Also, Craig please? Pleeeeeease?
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions
reloading says I knocked you out of first.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Only for one, but not the other
I half-win! Mwahahahaha!
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
kind of sucks for Hill
Got up and didn’t even get a PA
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I bet he gets in one PH appearance right before he's sent back down.
I think he knows he was up mostly because of logistics.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
we know it.
so i hope he knows it.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Anderson is clearly the best choice but if he's hurt, he's hurt.
I would probably take Pags over Hill at this point for one game. I don’t care if Pags goes 0-4 for one game. Hill is learning how to play catcher right now, which is why he’s in Double AA. Pags has at least worked with Duncan and caught our pitchers before.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If his last name was not Pagnozzi
He would not be on this team
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
True, I guess. But guys like him, or Kevin Cash, or Corky Miller, are always around...
bouncing between the MLs and the Minors. Our version just happens to be named Pagnozzi. Pagnozzi is an archetype, not an exception. Meh.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not true.....
His defense is why he is around.
What you should have said, was…..“with his offense, most other coaching staffs wouldn’t keep him around.”
Like Twin said above, Pags can best handle the staff. And that is important.
Damn, I was hoping that he'd done that on purpose.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you know?
There is more to defense then throwing out base runners. And there is more to throwing out base runners than just the catcher, also.
If he can call a good game, and gives the pitcher confidence to throw balls in the dirt, he is pretty good defensively to me. I’m guessing SB’s won’t be an issue, FOR ONE GAME, at the ML level.
i've seen him play baseball
maybe he calls a good game, but he is not a good defender
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
the numbers never lie, he sucks
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
His defense is WAY over rated
Defensively is below MLB average
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on what?
Stolen bases? See my post above.
When I say defense, I’m mostly talking about handling a staff, calling a game, and blocking balls. The first two really aren’t measurable.
The first two are NOT DEFENSE.
Don't say hi to me.
by chalk on Aug 14, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Catching baseballs.
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Aug 14, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
blocking balls is something he's not very good at
in his brief MLB/spring training time he’s looked pretty stiff to me. He’s probably better at that stuff than Bryan Anderson, but nobody handles pitchers well enough to justify starting a second pitcher in the batting order. When you look at the runs you’d be leaving on the table—it’s just difficult to imagine a catcher causing anything like the same kind of damage because he can’t “call a game.”
Also, people have tried to measure those other things, and had trouble finding any difference between guys who were basically pilloried because they could hit (Mike Piazza) and guys who were Clubhouse Heroes because they hit like pitchers (Brad Ausmus.)
by DanUpBaby on Aug 14, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If his defense was Yadier Molina on steroids he still couldn't justify being a MLB player because of how bad a hitter he is
Not afraid to nitpick
he's right around average
and he’s one of the better hitting catchers in the league because of it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Huh?
I’m saying Pagnozzi would be the worst hitter in the big leagues by a pretty wide margin, you could safely pinch hit for him with a number of pitchers.
Not afraid to nitpick
oh,
i don’t get how that means that, but i agree.
i thought you were saying that even if yadi juiced up he’s such a bad hitter that juiced yadi still wouldn’t be an MLB player if not for his defense
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
If [Pagnozzi's] defense was Molina caliber defense on steroids, Pagnozzi still couldn't justify being a MLB player...
Not afraid to nitpick
Pronoun syndrome
"Now that's how you talk. You don't talk to the newspapers, you talk to the baseball." -- Shannon
All true..but he's not a MLB player and no one, including the Cards, thinks he is.
The only reason he is even being talked about is because our regular backup (LaRue) is hurt, our AAA backup (Anderson) is hurt, and our Double AA backup (Hill) is just learning how to play catcher. And even then, he’d still only play if Yadier “needs” a rest, which looks unlikely.
Bottom line, the whole thing is a non-event.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd still like to freak out about it
if it’s all the same to you.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
by all means then, go right ahead.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
trust me, you don't want to get on EF's bad side
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
I'm just not a fan of giving the worst hitter to see the big leagues by a wide margin more ABs than he's already gotten
This is what Paul Lo Duca or Paul Bako or Rob Bowen are for.
Not afraid to nitpick
also
BJRains La Russa hinted that slumping Lopez may need a break. He said Miles and Craig would be the two options at 3B. 5 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
We've gotta stop meeting like this.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Slumping Lopez > Lucky Miles
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Aug 14, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I asked Moz about Craig playing 3B
He responded with Mo speak about liking Lopez at 3B
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I swear to fucking god if I see a lineup with Miles AND Gagnozzi in it
Oh my god. No. Just fucking no.
Not afraid to nitpick
This statement brought to you by the AEC
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
by jacksonian on Aug 14, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Boog played well last night.
A couple of really good defensive plays that helped get westbrook out of innings.
Also, he took some grief for swinging at the first pitch afew times, but the pitches he swung at were fastballs right down the middle. The approach was there even if the results didn’t follow.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Aug 14, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions
bunting Westbrook over to third was big also.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
CRAIG BEING FOUND AS WE SPEAK
OR DROPPED OFF BY AN UNMARKED VAN, WE DON’T KNOW
BJRains Craig was out taking extra ground balls at third base. La Russa walked down and now the two are having a discussion. 2 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
or he could come away hating Craig for some unspecified reason.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this made me think of TLR"S irrational rage as the Eye in LOTR
quick, a distraction!
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
You know it would work better if he would keep rotating his rage.
It would keep players on their toes and no one would have to live under that cloud for too long. Unfortunately, his rage tends to filter out veterans.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
oh this makes me so happy.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
this doesn't mean he'll get a start at third
but it does mean that they are open to the idea.
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
Assuming TLR set the lineup even though he isn't managing
I wonder if anytime in his entire career he has played 5 games in a row with the same lineup
This ties his longest streak, I think.
I think there’s a fanshot about it.
Although, I guess this streak won’t count as “his”.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
That is only 3 days
Looking for 5 days
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Read the gray box
Last time a Larussa managed team used the same lineup 4 straight games: 5/12-5/17 1995 (5 straight).
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
meanwhile, back in Burlington... forces collide.
cjbeatty44 Watching man vs wild in clubhouse before we leave! This guy inspires me to never quit baseball!!!!!!! Lmbo he is CRAZY! 43 minutes ago via Echofon
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I prefer Survivorman a little more
Seems more genuine and less extreme.
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
as do I
but mostly I watch m v. w to figure what the camera guys have to do to get those shots.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Think of poor Les Stroud
He has to carry all his camera’s also. If you like living off the grid stuff. Do a video search on Les Stroud about living off the grid. Pretty cool mini documentary
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Mike Shannon was talking how TLR came up to the press box last night
The very first time he has seen the press box in his time in Saint Louis. (or possibly just the new stadium)
was he in awe? lol
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
actually he was
He was commenting on how loose it was and a mention I think to the booze
by FlimtotheFlam on Aug 14, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ahahahahaha
Tony thinks: That explains so much.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
moar tweet news.
- DavidMWilhelm Jeff Suppan is throwing a bullpen right now. Doesn’t appear to be favoring his injured right groin. less than a minute ago via web
- BJRains Dennys Reyes’ grandmother passed away while the team was in Cincinnati. He stayed with the team, but La Russa didn’t pitch him on purpose. 4 minutes ago via web
- BJRains With off day Monday, Molina will likely play tomorrow and no move will be made. but TLR said if he needs a day off, Pagnozzi will be here. 6 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
needs to stick around to screen Carpenter in a few weeks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
don't screw up Craig
dgoold At third, Craig took soft toss grounders — a drill from spring that infielders do. Had La Russa, Pettini and Oquendo watching. #stlcards 5 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He was doing them by himself against a wall in his backyard
Probably cried a little.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
heh
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Aug 14, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
well that sure explains a lot then, someone should tell him THERE'S NO CRYING IN BASEBAL
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
Tony, Pettini, and Oquendo take ecstasy?
this explains a lot
I also want to address this... Hi there... What's your name? My name's Heisenberg. You like Colby HRs, I like Colby HRs. We have that in common. I'm a Gemini. Maybe we should hook up sometime. Looks like you need a towel, here have mine. *SCREAM* Oh sorry, I should have gave you a clean one.
frreeeeee
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 14, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Craig!
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Aug 14, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
from the AP recap of yesterday's game
"Listen, talk to me about Chicago right now," Pujols said. "Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati. This is a new series and everybody’s focused. We flip the page."
That is sufficiently awesome that for the first time in my SBN career, I now have a signature.
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
i like it.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
call their chamber of commerce
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I really want Cinci to win the Wild Card now
A Cards/Reds NLCS would be intense.
Adios Esposito.
Adios Sarge. Say a prayer for Surf Boy...wherever he is.
Matt Holliday stats
i was always under the impression holliday was a big prospect but then i looked at his history…7th rounder out of hs and his best year in AA :
‘02 Carolina…MLE’s: .228/.307/.311 when he was 22yrs old
’03 Tulsa AA was a tick down
‘04 24yr old debut MLB for the Rox’s was .290/.349/.488 @400 PA’s
he never was exposed to rule 5 but i found still found this interesting
by guillermozeliak on Aug 14, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions
re: recent pictures of Piniella
man, he just looks shelll-shocked. Staring off into space….it’s like in his head he’s already retired and is sipping a beer on the couch, in his bathrobe and bunny slippers….
Whatever happened in Cincinnati, stays in Cincinnati.
he looked that way last year.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He probably should just go ahead and retire, let the Cubs choose a new manager
who could start getting acquainted for the rest of this wasted season.
But he deserves his last trip around the league. In fact, the Cards ought to have a small ceremony for him before the game last time he’s in town, the way everyone is doing for Cox.
"Now that's how you talk. You don't talk to the newspapers, you talk to the baseball." -- Shannon
they'll probably wait till sunday
I don’t think anyone wants to delay Chris Carpenter’s start for any reason….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Aug 14, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
something i don't see posted (it was probably in the game thread last night)
but after the red’s clobbered johnson last night, wainwright is the undisputed era leader in the mlb.
here’s a look at the more conventional, more cy voter type, stats.
earned run average
waino 1.99
hudson 2.13
johnson 2.27
innings pitched
halladay 185.0
wainwright 176.1
carpenter 171.0
strike-outs
halladay 168
lincecum 163
waino 158
all in all, right now i would say halladay is the favorite (especially when considering the perfect game, all of the cgso) but it is definitely within wainwright’s reach.
apologies if this just rehashes stuff
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
Don't forget wins!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
yeah, i was surprised too.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
santana tied for 3rd
randy wolf, carp, santana, and waino are teh only pitchers to have started 25 games. carp will be the ML leader in games started after today? weird.
Fire TLR.
wins
jimenez 17
wainwright 17
halladay 14
and just for fun
shut-outs
halladay 3
waino 2
complete games
halladay 8
wainwright 5
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
perfect games
Halladay 1
Wainwright 0
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
umpire aided
and having a real third baseman might help there.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Still it's a perfect game
Which will give him the edge in some of the voters’ minds.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
oh, voters' minds
mulling, gotcha.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I didn't read the fine print.
il rosso already mentioned that.
>While Albert Pujols batting, This Signature picked off second. Three out.
and i missed this.
oops! =)
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
yeah, i mentioned that.
"I don't know where Cueto learned to fight."-- Chris Carpenter
do not mess with yadi f. molina
now that you're making me look at pitching stats
Carlos Marmol’s K/9 is still 16.5. that’s absolutely absurd
Fire TLR.
Looks like Waino's option gets picked up
for 2012 & 2013. Top 5 finish in Cy Young voting means guaranteed $21M for Adam.
don't see health clause
- 2012, 2013 options guaranteed with top 5 finish in 2010 or 2011 Cy Young vote
- 2012 club option increases to $10M with 2010 or 2011 Cy Young
- club must exercise 2012 and 2013 options at same time
Goold also brought it up before
I didn’t get on base. One time I did (Wednesday) and we scored a run. That shows if I get on base, things can happen - Oilspill
TWIB's on
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
david price
bamf
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he really got Waino'd
nothing accelerates a badass pitcher’s career like closing a playoff game
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Joe Maddon putting a bike together and going biking.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Can't he just tell some intern
To haul around a real bike for him?
Is John Mabry still on the roster?
apparently it's this ex-er-cise thing.
he keeps it in a suitcase and puts it together. so I presume he brings it on the road.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
montage sucked. aw.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
whats this bike stuff i keep hearing about?
Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing can be made
at least there's a breeze
For now…
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 3:30 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
if you're at the game, azru knows where to find you.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
for one of the 37 first pitches
A 10 (?) Yr old kid just threw a strike from the rubber. Excellent.
jprutherford- Bud Norris could get @dgoold and @matthewhleach to stop twittering. #layup
by The Continental on Aug 14, 2010 3:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
mea culpa - you all were right
Pham is up in springfield,not PB. I just read az’s rave reviews of his appearances and will say pham need to go on the 40-man.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Aug 15, 2010 12:38 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

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