Overflow Vengance
by Valatan on Jul 31, 2010 1:06 AM EDT
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It's the Pirates... the PIRATES. Do this.
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FIST!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions
it was fist
not first
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I failed there?
even though it was an old meme?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
your right
I board the fail boat
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
forgot about the new ludriguez thing.
ludriguezwick. has a nice ring to it.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
Cubs had that for his name above the locker in Chicago
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Ludwick hypothetical trade. Luddy pretends he no Ludwick. He Ludriguez. He clean.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Jul 31, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
...
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
Jay made an out.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I wanted to crap my pants
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
you wanted to poop your pants?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Better not fuck this one up, Valatan
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Good enough of an outcome for you?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Acceptable.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Coach out to tell pitcher how to get Molina to GIDP with runner on second.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
"You see, you line it STRAIGHT at the 2b, and you will achieve the double play"
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
i hate the bunt here.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
runner on third with 1 out...
I’ll take it…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
were the Pirates playing Ludwick the opposite way?
seemed the LF was a really long way off the line….
8 hours of doing physics research melts brains
and spelling is the first thing to go
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Boog could really use the walkoff.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Don't you dare pinch hit for Boog
This is HIS time.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 31, 2010 1:11 AM EDT reply actions
Boog.... do not go back here....
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Jul 31, 2010 1:12 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I liked the John Jay
Hansel thanks…but it wouldnt let me reply there thread too full
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Anytime, mang
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
when i posted the pic it was
in hope someone would edit it..i dont have the skillz or program
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
It takes a mini-stroke of inspiration. I'm not original, I just convey other people's ideas
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Be patient Boog
They won’t give you cookie.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 AM EDT reply actions
boog goat?
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
I was at the game
When Davis Eckstein had a walk off squeeze in the bottom of the 10th against the Cubs. I think it was in ’05. 2-1 Final score. Lets do it again.
Onubon > Gates
I love Davis Eckstein!!!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
His butcher boy grand slam was the best walkoff moment ever.
by cloistermaximus on Jul 31, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
i made a ringtone out of that call by shannon
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG WINNER
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
BOOG INFIELD SINGLE WALKOFF
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog
and RFL!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:14 AM EDT reply actions
MLBN just showed the Braves sweeping the Reds earlier in the season...
to lead into their CIN-ATL highlights tonight.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
AAARRRGH Al and Stav.
too bad we don’t have Stav to pinch hit.
RFL
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Al just called Franklin The Vulture
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:14 AM EDT reply actions
It wont let me reply to vexedechie
ahhh
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
that was rough
but a win nonetheless!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:15 AM EDT reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG!
Nice! He really needed this!
DONT TRADE BOOG
I want the Walrus back...
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG
that’s all I got.
I have a hate relationship with the Cardinals' roster makeup decisions. | Cards on Cards
Hooray, Boog!
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2010 1:15 AM EDT reply actions
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG!
by cloistermaximus on Jul 31, 2010 1:16 AM EDT reply actions
can't see the g
your avatar be blockin’
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
better.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
right now meeeeee tooooo
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
E-4?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Now Gameday changed it to a Hit
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I think it was changed to a hit.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Well...we didnt get shutout...
/gold lining
'I'm hitting .841. I play for the Bears...I have a Harley-Davidson, does that turn you on?' - Kelly Leak
x-Fire Tony LaRussa-x
we did win ya know
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
thats why its gold instead of silver
'I'm hitting .841. I play for the Bears...I have a Harley-Davidson, does that turn you on?' - Kelly Leak
x-Fire Tony LaRussa-x
ahh, i get it now.
i like to think im bright, but all the evidence says otherwise. i will continue to choose to ignore said evidence.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Brendan is not Chris!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:17 AM EDT reply actions
boog ain't no chris!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
SSS
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
whatever works.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
Well time for a celebratory drink...
oh wait been doing that for awhile…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
103?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
... although beaten to death
'I'm hitting .841. I play for the Bears...I have a Harley-Davidson, does that turn you on?' - Kelly Leak
x-Fire Tony LaRussa-x
by Heisenberg on Jul 31, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
after tonight's victory
i has to rec.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
still like this the best
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jul 31, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why's it gotta be a black baby in the background?
Lil mans holdin’ him down.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
no clue
and all memes are beaten to death here
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
I must be nitpicky, but I can clearly see that the baby's left ear has either...
been accidentally erased, overlapped, or had its opacity changed….
'I'm hitting .841. I play for the Bears...I have a Harley-Davidson, does that turn you on?' - Kelly Leak
x-Fire Tony LaRussa-x
u can see it
its just tucked, and u are a nit picker
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
It's likely a pasted background sandcastle kid that was blurred and not layered underneath.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
yeah
i dont think its real, but the sandcastle one is the original i think..
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
I doubt it... It seems like the original should be nothing in the background.
It’d be WAY easier to simulate a soft focus background than to patch it out.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
well the first
time saw the pic it had the castles…i no its altered..um yeah
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
ha
hadn’t seen that one before
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
Also, I would like to clarify that the meme was beaten to death...
not the baby. that is all.
'I'm hitting .841. I play for the Bears...I have a Harley-Davidson, does that turn you on?' - Kelly Leak
x-Fire Tony LaRussa-x
by Heisenberg on Jul 31, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
heh
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
Is he holding a sandy turd in his hand?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Turd Ferguson?
'I'm hitting .841. I play for the Bears...I have a Harley-Davidson, does that turn you on?' - Kelly Leak
x-Fire Tony LaRussa-x
Burt Reynolds?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
this makes me laugh
because the first time i saw it someone said it was the scott rolen baby
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
another 1-0 game, wtf
ftw!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
no game sucks that ends with a boog win
and involves carp pitching
it could have been better, but in my boog suck stands for something different
repeat: IFUCKINGHEARTBOOG
it got lost in the shuffle. but honestly, i fucking love him. i loved the walk off, i loved the whole thing. how can i get boog to marry me?!?!?!?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I would suggest a prenup
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
sex him.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Jul 31, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
can you print me directions
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Jul 31, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Penis. Gateway to the heart.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Jul 31, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i may have to send a new love letter with a different theme
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
/shudder
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
Ow. I think Albert got a pretty good kidney shot in on Boog.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 31, 2010 1:22 AM EDT reply actions
maybe the team is paying the GOB so that at the end of the season and the postseason they will have an avalanche of hits
except for Jon Jay, who’s BABIP will be .067
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:22 AM EDT reply actions
the golden child?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He's SO hot right now.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
You already know.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Jul 31, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I liked the summer of jay idea better
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
"feels great just to get on base
feels great just to get a hit"
“i am fighting for my life right now”
i has a major sad
tlr: "[boog] deserves to enjoy it
carp was great
was really a well played game
brendan made a heck of a play
albert and yadi are so smart.."
etc
umm is Franklin gonna end the season with more wins than saves???
and not in the i got the win cuz i am Izzy and I blew the save way
I kinda doubt that
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
for those always hating on boog, and for reds fans,
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
fuckin' m...................................................................resisting the urge.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Fuckin' Norris...
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
I will have nightmares now
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
prays to the GOBs
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
rec'd
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
sweet.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
Waino's CG, 7/4/10
@zoomzoomj88
Fire Tony LaRussa
Forget the bench coach - the Cardinals need to hire a baserunning coach. Hello, Larry Walker.
stfu about boog horton
“i really liked the more serious brendan ryan this time”
fuck you ricky, we know you don’t like him, stfu
Yes, another in a long line of douchey things that Horton says on pretty much a daily basis,
last time i checked baseball is still a GAME, even though i realize its mostly business these days, its still a game…hell, after getting the TLR mindgame all year, Boog should be able to act however he wants after that. Ricky’s just jealous that Boog gets to do Play Like A Cardinal commercials (good ones @ that) & he gets stuck w/Sonic…effin d-lister
by buzzburton33 on Jul 31, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
try again
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This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
I had a beer with that guy one time
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I give you props just for knowing him... he is kick ass
and I never met him but really if you wear that you kick ass
why would the cubs do that?
i thought they were rebuilding
or are they just gonna spend a bunch of money in the offseason?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
In my pants?
Yeah, it’s only a quarter chub.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
how unexciting
except for the happy ending. no pun intended.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
that last line
pretty much sums up my feelings about WPA and all it’s derivatives
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i don't care if they did added nothing
he got 3 hits. everything else is out of his control. WPA is a gimmick
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i suppose
it’s kind of like RBI. fun to look at, but not real meaningful
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
It's plenty meaningful
just not particularly predictive.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
WPA
RBI always struck me as a bizarre thing to keep track of, even when I was a kid.
But WPA is a decent way to tally what you actually got out of a player, rather than what you could expect to get out of them going forward.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i dunno
i think WPA is just as bad a measure of how good the player is or how well the player did.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Why?
It tells you how much the player improved the teams chances in a given game. That seems to be exactly what a measure of how a player did should be.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
but
it’s entirely too dependent upon things outside the player’s control
like jon jay going 3 for 4 and having a .003 WPA, but boog is .166 because he reached base on an error at the right time
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
It was ruled a hit, I'd assume the stat
would reflect that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i dunno what it was ruled
i assumed it was an error because it clearly should have been
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I think it got changed
I’m not sure if FG has updated to reflect that yet. The AP box score I read was inconsistent…..
ah, then yeah
that’s probably why
but i still think jay’s 3 hits wtih nobody on should be more valuable to a metric than boogs “hit” to score the winning run
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I think it's more that the definition of WPA is kind of arbitrary
because when somebody is 3 for 4 they’re going to help the team win more often than not…..giving them a break-even WPA makes no real-world sense. That’s the problem, is that sometimes the numeric output of the model doesn’t seem to correspond with reality terribly well.
Other times it does though. Carp’s high pitching WPA makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?
not exactly
if all of Jay’s hits had come with the bases loaded in a tie game, he’d have enormous WPA. Did he perform worse, then, since his hits instead came with the bases empty? Is he at fault for the previous batters not having hit?
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Though there are weird artifacts to WPA
like Trever Miller accumulating a fifth as much as Carp in this game.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i think if WPA is meaningful
then RBI is meaningful. it shows you exactly how many runners scored as a result of the hitter’s PAs
WPA shows you how much the teams winning percentage changed as a result of the hitter’s PAs
they’re pretty similar stats in meaningfulness
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
what's bizarre about RBI?
I mean, I get that using it to evaluate an individual batter’s skill isn’t very useful, but it does matter in each individual game context, doesn’t it?
I mean, if you hit a single, your BA & OBP go up, but you don’t score unless somebody else does something positive…..
agreed
shenanigans.
Is there another stat that is like WPA but corrects for obvious screwjobs like that? Like RE24 or something?
i dunno what you mean by "like WPA"
gimme wOBA or gimme death!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
wRC is better than WPA
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Drink...
it’s what I’ve been doing all nite and it’s awesome… in related news my bottle of Knob Creek is much more empty that this time last nite….
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I prefer Maker's
but decided to expand my bourbon horizons… any suggestions?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
not really
but i like knob creek a smidge more than maker’s
other than that, i’m not a very seasoned alcohol veteran. and i prefer scotch to bourbon
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Just drink Jamesons.....
it’s better and will cost you less.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't know...
I tend to like the bourbon… maybe it’s growing up in the middle of all those corn fields. granted I like pretty much any whiskey with either sours or coke… for some reason don’t have enough hair on my balls to drink it on the rocks yet… maybe when I pass 30…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I'm really not much of a whiskey guy.....
when I do it’s a Jameson’s ditch.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
whiskey is the only liquor worth it
or maybe some good tequila
but i’m a beer guy.
actually, i’m a marijuana guy, but when i drink, i’m a beer guy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
ya.....I'd pretty much agree with that.....
Living in a medical state is wondrous.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well,
i don’t live in a medical state
but the last couple hours of each night, i usually am
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
ya...I was just rubbing that in your face....
sorry bout that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I get the suspicion
half the board mulls it over….
anyway, as for beer, I need stouts & lagers. Otherwise I’m drinking rum, wine, or occasionally vodka. I can’t stand light beers, and hoppy beers don’t really do it for me….
i thought lagers and stouts was a strange combo
but to each his own
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
if we're going irish, i'd rather have bushmill's anyway
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
protestant whisky......
blasphemy.
/joke not religion.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
DEY TUK ER GAWD
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
by ducttape16 on Jul 31, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Woodford Reserve
A little late on the suggestion, but you should definitely try it. So much goodness.
Also, there’s nothing wrong with Knob Creek, but it is just Jim Beam+.
by Cardfanintherock on Jul 31, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
woodford reserve rules
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
After that game, yes it is.
If we had lost it would have been Jim Beam-
by Cardfanintherock on Jul 31, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions
By the way, what is your face?
Sense you are responding to posts at 1:36am CST.
by Cardfanintherock on Jul 31, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Since rather.
And in case you’re wondering, my face is actually Gin and tonic.
by Cardfanintherock on Jul 31, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I should probably switch my face to that as well.
So if I’m drinking beer, my face is Franklin’s?
by Cardfanintherock on Jul 31, 2010 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I usually end up with creepy flesh color beard.
So I guess my face is Franklin’s. But that begs another question. Someone who is really drunk is shit-faced, if they are hammered on beer does that mean they are Franklin-faced?
by Cardfanintherock on Jul 31, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
this is a little over my head, kierkegaard
i think chitown is our resident philosopher. i’ll defer you to him on this matter
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
That's not the 900 bucks a bottle stuff is it?
Or whatever the super expensive stuff Binny’s has is
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
nope
it’s the $35-$40 a bottle stuff
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I'll have to remember that the next time I head to the non 4am liquor store...
seriously I live within stumbling distance of a liquor store open til 4am and 5 am on Saturday nite… I love Cihcago…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
this place does rock
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions
1000 Liquors FTW
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
vas foremost is better
or gentile wines and liquors
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Are they open til 4 am though?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i liked chicago a lot the one time that i went there
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
If you come back drinks are on me...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i would definitely like to visit chicago again
no idea when, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
we pretty much have it all
top notch food, a shit ton of bars, great live music, a giant well kept park by a huge lake, public transit and lots of bike trails so that you don’t have to spend money on a car if you don’t want to, affordable apartments, etc
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Says the guy who was badmouthing where I live
earlier today… shakes fist…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
wait
affordable apartments
i would’ve assumed chicago was expensive
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Depends where you want to live
and your definition of affordable
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i thin austin is expensive
in that it’s hard to find a 1 BR apartment anywhere in the city for under $700
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
My 1 BR in Lakeview is 1140...
So take that as you will… not sure what your job here projects to but yeah…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i wouldn't be able to afford 1140
not assuming the whole “you have to gross three times rent” thing. i only work part time right now
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Uh oh... you said 'right now'
following the Carolla theory right now is never a good thing… aka you never hear “right now I work for NASA…”
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
well,
i will definitely go full time at some point. probably not until i finish school, though which will be 2-4 years. depending on grad school
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
How old are you?
Just trying to give some unsolicited advice.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Fair enough...
That’s when I went back to grad school… best 2 years of my life. I’m 27 now… if that matters at all.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
i just need to do some research
and see how much difference grad school and two years in the work force would do me.
it also kind of depends on how i feel. i kind of want to be done with school
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
I went to work for 2 years....
then came back for grad school. Not sure what field your in, but I would recommend my path. When I got to grad school I appreciated it much more than I think I would have if I would have went straight in.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Uh yeah....
have fun with that… also ignore the your/you’re fail up there… I’m a civil engineer to me the whole CS thing makes absolutely no sense at all…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
strangely enough
I am rapidly approaching the end of my wine….my other choices are Guinness & Sailor Jerry’s….
I had some college buddies
who had more than a few good nites with Sailor Jerry… these are the same guys who put Long Island mix on tap in a 5 gallon bucket…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I finally had some proper Captain and Coke last weekend...
num ummys… now I see why my buddy loved that stuff so much.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Captain's is good stuff
now try Jerry’s. It’s 92 proof and has a better taste IMHO. Morgan’s was my drink of choice for a long time though….
Eh last weekend it was more of a memorial drink
my buddy would down 5ths of Captain and Coke a night without being phased… and he died the week before so we poured out some for our dead homey and got lit like a Christmas Tree the way he would have wanted…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Thanks...
his dumbass got on a bike without a helmet and bought the farm… I’m now more just kinda pissed he was stupid than being sad… I know that makes me sound like an ass, but I assume you guys are smart enough to know what I’m going for.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
no
i’ll just be impressed that mo stays up later than i do
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
fuckin' caffeine...
…how does it work?
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
it bloxks adenosine receptors, i believe
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
by prophetjohn on Jul 31, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your attempts at besting me are humorous
You are like a tiny marmoset trying to take down a strong alpaca like me.
Oh ho ho! You are but tickling me!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Guys I'm here! We can win now!
Oh…
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 31, 2010 1:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
10:40 AM
It’s gonna be a rough trip, this one…
I’ll have to recouperate with lots and lots of alcohol when I get there. Open bars at weddings = godsends
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 31, 2010 1:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Houston. At 5:50. For two hours.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 31, 2010 1:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
bars aren't open.....
that’s why I don’t fly at night.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Invest in a flask?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Keister it?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Have the lady friend keister it?
I’m totally cool with paying for alcohol at the airport… cause I fly about once every 14 years per capita in my life…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
K going to bed its
10:51 PC hope i wake up to see a MIF or SP..but one can hope..
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
haha Carp
What did you do during the rain delay?
I sat and read my book
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 AM EDT reply actions
he;s out of control
colby should still start every dy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
i love cheese
but honestly, if i have to pick between someone that will go 3 for 4 every start or someone that will strike out 2 or 3 our of 4, it’s a no brainer
he plays CF and RL, have him play left so lego can get a break
teach him to catch (he seems like he has the body for it), and we’re all set – of course i’m kidding
c'mon
it won’t last. I’ve on the JJ bandwagon, but it’s a mirage. He’s good, but he ain’t that good.
of course he's not that good
but until he shows signs of regression, i see no reason to sit him too often
i don’t say play him for colby all the time, though
but he deserves to get starts, he’s trying hard and if tlr brigs up another washed out gritty vet pet project, he’ll be one of the first ones to go
let the kid enjoy it while he can
But..... and I am just sayin.... what if he is that good...
Most of our best players come from unexpected places… see Pujos, Albert
my paycheck says
that jay is not the first to go when, say, stav comes back
tony views jay as an everyday starter. winn is more likely to be DFA’s
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
that's a shame
i like winn
maybe tony will surprise us all and realize who needs to be dfa’s first
just saying
but jon jay is getting lucky
and colby has perennial all star potential. he can’t work out of his slumps on the bench
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
oh, no
i’d be the first person to tell you that albert is underperforming. and it’s to the point of being really frustrating
albert in july: .250 /.324/.489
that’s not just sub-pujolsian. that’s just a bit above average
yes, .225 BABIP
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
jesus
didn’t realize he’d been that bad for that long. He needs a rest. Give him a week and let Craig play 1st.
i just don't understand the double standard
you can sit boog for weeks because he “needs a mental break”
but you can’t bring craig and give albert a mental break?
Not to mention
There a A LOT of fans that are paying good money to see Albert play. Slump or not.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
yeah,
i don’t think tony has a lot of control over albert
i don’t remember when it was, within the last week or so, but albert had just argued a call. a pitch went near albert’s foot and tried to sell it like he was hit, though he clearly wasn’t. tony ran out there to argue the call and albert just waved for him to go back to the dugout. tony turned around and went back. i remember thinking that that showed a lot about what goes on in the dugout
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
albert and boog
are understandably held to different standards and give different levels of control over their situations. i bet tony would like to give albert a couple days off
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
who cares if jon jay is playing when he is doing well
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
sure jon jay is lucky
does it mean he should be benched?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
no, him being lucky does not mean he should be benched
but his luck does not mean colby should be the 4th outfielder
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
it's not an easy decision really
Holliday = lock to start
RFL probably should be a lock, but I guess they are letting him come back slowly
Rasmus = slumping
Jay = on fire, ride the hot streak
so what would you do?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i think rasmus should be a lock to start
maybe have a three man rotation where each of them takes every third day off
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
that's what it should be
just give equal playing time to all 4 players. if you look at tony’s reputation of giving equal playing time, you would think that would be the way it would go
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
he really can't be any worse than skip at D
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions
freese might be back in like a week, though!
provided he doesn’t run over his foot with his car…
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Am I a dick for being happy that Oswalt sucked in his debut in Philly and
Happ kicked ass in Houston
I laughed when I saw what happened
After listening to ESPN kissing the Phillies ass for this move….I had a good laugh.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
depends
it’s hilarious, cause the 2-time defending NL champs aren’t looking good.
At the same time, it means we face Happ more often.
Happ is a good pitcher...
Makes me wonder why the Phillies have been trying soo hard to get rid of him..
he was in AAA
for 2 rehab starts this year after being injuried
this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.
it's okay, it happens to the best of us
remember me flipping out over trading wallace for holliday? no? i guess that’s because it didn’t happen. i was never yelling for a craig dejesus platoon in LF!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Stav for a bag of seeds
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew Oswalt would have been a bad move
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Phillies are dumb
just look at the Howard deal. luckily for them they stumbled upon Chase Utley and Jason Werth
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
although
.386 wOBA = werth career year
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
he's slugging .516
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions
speaking of the phillies sucking
i called that they miss the playoffs this year because they were due for injuries. it’s not lock, but it looks like the WC will come out of the west and the braves might take the east
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
it definitely looks that way
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions
no
albert’s got .943 OPS on the season, but he looks like he might be about to decline
i’m nervous about what kind of contract he gets
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
it will at least be a keep the seats packed to see a HOFer contract
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
anything additional is icing on the cake
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think he'll be that bad
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Hasn't he been a value in the past?
aka if you factor in overpaying him in the future and underpaying him in the past will it roughly balance out? If so I’m fine with it… even if not I think he sells tickets so the ownership is fine with it if he isn’t other worldly in the future.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I'm still of the opinion
it’s ok to overpay once in a generation talent…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I just hope pujols realizes he wants to be a cardinal the rest of his career
and that his contract would hurt how they compete, so he pulls a joe mauer and goes pretty cheap.
Well I think we all hope that,
but at the same time I couldn’t fault him for getting all he could from whatever team he could… I’d do the same in his position.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
that's a pretty good line
if albert is still putting up a .900 OPS toward the end of his contract, it was probably a good contract
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
those seasons are seriously limited
i don’t know if it’s reasonable to expect any 32 year old to put up those numbers
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
well,
mo has said that he plans to offer a contract commensurate with what he expects his future performance to be, not what his past performance has been.
it might be rough if he sticks to that mindset of “i have to have a bigger contract than howard or teixeira or etc”
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
yeah
and albert needs to retire a cardinal
if he’ll take a 5 year deal, i don’t think it can hurt too much. maybe even a sixer that starts in 2011
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
yeah,
we need to get lucky on these drafts. they need to pay whatever it takes to get austin wilson signed. and cox and jenkins.
if wilson fails to sign with us, we can’t draft him again next time he’s eligible, can we?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
oh, wait. i see what you mean
i thought you were reviving the slogan with regard to signing all those picks
YES WE CAN! sign austin wilson
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
just got back from the game.
I spent 2+ hours at bb’s waiting for the game to start, only to see 10 innings of pathetic baseball. I’m glad we got the win but damn. Karstens again? I think it was up to 1 run this team scored over a 26 inning span. That was a really bad game to watch. Carpenter didn’t look very sharp but was still good enough to shutout the pirates. Lol.
I don’t know how I would of handled sitting through that entire game to see a loss. I had a feeling we would win the whole game but it was still painful to watch. All I can say is i hope the offense turns it around for Suppan tomorrow and if they don’t hopefully Mozeliak can do something to make us happy. Jake Westbrook please! Mo was quoted tonight as saying ‘all is quiet’ though. I sure hope that’s not true and is some sort of ploy. All better not be quiet with all the holes we have right now. If I have to see another game like tonight from the offense plus Jeff Suppan tomorrow and the deadline pass without us adding a pitcher I’m not sure I will survive.
by mick311 on Jul 31, 2010 2:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
you must be exhausted
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 31, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
What the hell is this godforsaken hour?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
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