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An Early Morning Chat With Friends

Well, at least Jay can make it to the base in one slide. So, he's got that going for him.  (Photo by Al Bello/Getty Images)

Wow. Just wow. 

This is, without a doubt, the most frustrating baseball team I have ever followed in all my years. We watch them rattle off eight consecutive wins, looking all the while like the juggernaut we had hoped for, and then the last week we get this. This. All along, through the good times and the bad, the starters have carried this team. Then Adam Wainwright goes out and lays an egg, and it just seems as if this squad simply can't get it right no matter what they do. 

Of course, what makes it all the more maddening is the fact the Cardinals were once again shut down by a middling sort of pitcher. Jon Niese is a perfectly fine pitcher, and I wouldn't mind seeing him taking the ball every fifth day for the birds. (I certainly wouldn't lose sleep over kicking Suppan or The Hawk out of the rotation in favour of Niese.) As perfectly fine a pitcher as he is, though, the Cardinals just shouldn't be getting their asses handed to them by hurlers of this ilk. This offense, with this collection of talent, should chew up back-end starters as a matter of course. Niese was fine last night, but let's face facts: the Cards are not taking very good at-bats right now, and I don't know what happened to flip the switch back to OFF. 

I will say this for them: our boys only struck out three times total in the game last night. Unfortunately, that seemed more a reflection of Niese not having the stuff to put the ball past anyone than a particularly good approach by our hitters. They still chased plenty of balls well out of the zone, it just so happens most of the time they put the ball in play weakly. 

Early on there seemed to be a bunch of hard-hit balls right at fielders (and by fielders I mean David Wright), but as the game wore on our offense seemed more and hypnotized, lulled to sleep by another lefty who refused to throw the ball over 90. Sigh. 

Oh well. I suppose some nights it's just going to be that way, and last night was one of those nights. Maybe I'll just look at this current skid as a couple tough losses to a division foe and a blowup by your ace instead of something systemic that seems to keep cropping up time and time and time again this season. 

Anyhow, I'll be here today and tomorrow, filling in for our vacationing capitan, and I have a few hours to spare today. So let's run a little chat. Topics include the offense, how much I hate the offense, how much the offense sucks, and how irritating it is that Orbit decided to replace their previous spokeswoman with a new, much much less interesting blonde Brit. Very disappointing. We can talk about anything else, too, if you like. Austin Wilson, maybe? Or Austin Wilson? 

Anyway, I've got until about 10:00 or 10:30. I'm eating a bowl of rice. Let's have us a chat, shall we? 

The Baron's Playlist for the 28th of July, 2010

"Have Mercy" - Loretta Lynn

"The End of the World" - Skeeter Davis

"Why'd You Come in Here Lookin' Like That" - Dolly Parton

"Crazy Arms" - Patsy Cline

"I Don't Wanna Play House" - Tammy Wynette

"Boulder to Birmingham" - Emmylou Harris

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Rice?

Come on man. Power breakfast! Protein! Beer!

by sdrone on Jul 28, 2010 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

How about the Rotoworld sidebar on Shelby?

Any way he moves to Springfield before the end of the season? Heck, he’s should probably move to the big club b/c he’s better than Soup now.

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm hoping he gets bumped up to Palm Beach before the end of the season.

He’s certainly earned a move up, but I wonder how quickly the Cards are going to be willing to move him up. I think Palm Beach for the last month or so of the season and then starting there next year would be just fine.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pete Kozma approach(shudders because I just said that)

but there is no way he’s going to be in Springfield this year.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Defensively, yes.

With the bat, he would be a downgrade, as hard as that is to believe.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

in all seriousness?

yes, he looked rushed two years ago in QC whenever I watched him play but you could see he had good hands and good instincts .

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't tg do it better?

is his hand still an issue?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the exact same thing

He is ready for Palm Beach soon. I am still impressed with how well his K/BB has been so far this season

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't really argue with that.

I’m much the same.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not bad,

but there are some funky park effects in the minors, more so than the big leagues. Still, if you know what sort of park the guy plays in, HR numbers can be very useful.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

GO/AO is a good one.

especially if you can’t remember (like me) whether it’s an extreme hitters’ league or more of a pitchers’ one.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing they're wanting him to vaguely develop a changeup against weaker competition, perhaps?

Pretty sure his 95+ FB and nasty slider is way too good for the competition in QC, but presumably they’re playing the long game with him as regards developing his secondary offerings? Haven’t heard much scouting-wise this year but other than his FB and SL from what I recall he was considered pretty raw out of HS.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

He throws a curve, not a slider.

His changeup has supposedly made a lot a progress, but I can’t say either way as I haven’t personally gotten to see him yet live.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

just look at the spreadsheets then

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, you're right, slipped my mind

I always just assume anyone who throws 95+ must have a slider as a breaking pitch by default :-)

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He doesn't need a plus change-up.

He’s got the fastball and hammer curve. If he could add a “show me” change up and maybe a cutter that would be more than enough pitches. A 95 mph FB and a 12-6 curve is plenty to get hitters out at every level if you can locate them consistently.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

+

Beard

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Which would you rather have?

95+ FB (touching 97) with a 12-6 curve and location of 70 on a 20-80 scale.

OR

95+ FB (touching 97) with a 12-6 curve and plus change up, location of 55 on a 20-80 scale

I’d rather he had two plus offerings with great control than three plus offerings with average control. Obviously this isn’t a “realistic” choice per se, but it illustrates what I’m trying to say I think.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are there any starters who get by with just two pitches?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strasburg

Heat & Filth

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

granted, his change-up moves like some pitchers' curves

but they are two distinct knee-bucklers he throws. so, heat, filth and sick

by mikey_mac on Jul 28, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forgot Awesomeness

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Hot-ice

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think a lot of younger guys get by with basically 2

peavy and liriano come to mind off the top. eventually they start mixing in a third offering enough to keep guys off balance, but for 2-3 years they can get by with fastball/slider.

by mikey_mac on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at fangraphs

In his awesome 2006 year

He threw his fastball 44% of the time, slider 38% of the time, and his changeup 19% of the time

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, his slider was unhittable

started a foot outside and high, and ended up behind RH hitters’ ankles

by mikey_mac on Jul 28, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was

And his changeup was rated kindly to Johan’s.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nolan Ryan did for pretty much his entire career (95+ FB, Hammer 12/6 Curve)

So did Gibson, Blyleven, Koufax, Randy Johnson, even Clemens was a two pitch pitcher until he left Boston, then he developed the splitter while he was injecting Winstrol into his a**

If you throw 95+ consistently have have an plus breaking pitch, you can get by with two pitches. Now, you could state that the four seam fastball and the two seam fastball are different pitches, but it doesn’t require a skill to change your grip on the ball or require any mechanical changes.

FWIW, Jamie Moyer pretty much throws only two pitches, but he throws everything at varying speed so you never really know what’s coming.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

Moyer throws like 8 different pitches. "fast"ball + a true sinker, cutter, slider, changeup and curve. His PITCHf/x graphs are clusterfucks:

Also a big difference in that all of those guys had some of the best secondary pitches in history, which I haven’t seen Miller’s curve rated as. The guys I can come up with who are throwing 2 pitches almost exclusively are Burnett, Harden (and even that is cheating because he cuts/runs his changeup) and Gio Gonzalez. Anecdotally I would also say that changeup pitchers age much better as they lose their velocity.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has two grips.

That’s two pitches to me. Extra “pitches” infers that he’s changing grips, i.e. learning new mechanics.

I don’t care what “pitch F/X” classifications you’re using, and the reason they look like clusterfucks is because he changes speeds and arm angles with all his different pitches.

Gibson, by his own admission, threw three different sliders. A hard nasty one, a “show me” slurvy one (like David Cone’s “laredo” slider), and a backdoor one for left handed hitters.

He didn’t ask if an “average” starter could survive with two pitches, he asked for examples of guys who survived on two pitches. Tom Glavine survived on a fastball/changeup for YEARS — he threw his curve so rarely that hitters didn’t even prepare for it.

Can it be done? Absolutely, and you’re right, you do need both to be plus pitches. But that’s far away from saying “it can’t be done”.

Are you stating that Shelby Miller doesn’t have the talent to be a #1 starter? According to TINSTAAPP, he sure seems likely to be that, doesn’t he?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is TINSTAAPP again?

i had it once

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is no such thing as a pitching prospect

alternate meaning: i don’t really know what i’m talking about

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't or I don't?

Because there really ain’t much to it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

people who just toss around the acronym all the time

i think it’s just kind of an easy way out of being wrong about being excited about a shelby miller type

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps you should do a little research then

Specifically Victor Wang’s research.

Or you could continue making blatant stereotypes about people and be uninformed yourself.

Your choice I guess.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm familiar with what you're talking about

and the chances that a top 50 pitching prospect in the low minors has of becoming a star or even just a regular

i still think TINSTAAPP is bullshit. your snark is well appreciated, though

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you think it's bullshit?

Pitching is an unnatural motion, and there are so many things that can go wrong between being drafted and getting to the majors

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not completely bullshit

i’m not in any way refuting the likelihood that any pitching prospect flames out. there’s empirical evidence suggesting that it’s likely. my main complaint is with people using it as a claim that you shouldn’t draft raw arms or that you should trade them away just because TINSTAAPP. there is a good chance shelby miller flames out, but there’s a better chance he becomes a star than some no-name 20th rounder none of us have heard of

i’d rather just state the obvious, that a pitching prospect is less projectable than a hitter

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

No he cannot be a #1 starter with only 2 pitches given that his curveball isn't rated as being dominant

In fact I forget where I read it but I saw somewhere that his changeup was showing more promise as an off-speed pitch anyway.

And Moyer throwing a fastball, changeup, cutter, slider and curve are definitely different pitches and not just grips.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy Johnson

pretty sure Max Scherzer only throws a fastball and a slider (though he might have a very cursory “show me” change).

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

papa dunc's gonna want a sinking fastball...

"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
STOP TRYING TO TRADE SHELBY MILLER!!

by BVHeck on Jul 28, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would guess Duncan wouldn't make Lincecum or Strasburg throw sinking fastballs.

So I doubt he’s going to ask Miller to do that.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope not.

And I don’t think they will. This was essentially his first stretched out start. He is still working on his offspeed offerings. I would bet that he starts in AA next season, after ending this season in the Quad Cities. That being said, the Cardinals have shown a philosophy of aggressive promotion. With pitchers, this has generally been of the college (i.e., older) draftees. I don’t know what they will do with our straight outta high school blue chip prospect.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt they start him out in Springfield next year, even if he has a good spring training

I think they won’t risk moving him to a hitter’s league until he gets a really good grip of palm beach for a few months.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you primarily because of how much work he's

putting in on learning new pitches and refining his secondary stuff. I do not want him in Palm Beach this season.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jul 28, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

He is less polished than the bulk of the college starters we have drafted, so he has more work to do to fill out his repertoire. I’d rather he continue to do that in the Quad Cities.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wainwright

I was trying to remember last night when the last time it was that Wainwright made such a terrible start. I couldn’t recall him having made one this season. He hasn’t. I couldn’t remember one from last season. Well, my memory failed me. He gave up 6 ER in 5 IP against the Pirates last season on September 4, earning the “win” in a game the Cards won by a touchdown, 14-7.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

I remember that game. Rough.

Still, the fact he hasn’t had a real blowup all season up ‘til now tells you everything you need to know about his place in the pecking order. Hell, Ubaldo Jimenez was getting pressed as the best pitcher in the NL for most of the season and he’s given up six runs like three different times in the past month it seems.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

A couple of starts ago - might have been last start?

The announcers were saying that he had an MLB record 26 straight quality starts.

by stlfan on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that game

I was driving through Pennsylvania listening to the Pirates’ radio… we were leading 5-0, then I stopped to refill gas and buy a soda and we were down 6-5 when I got back in the car.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bummer

I missed the game but pulled up the box score before bed. I thought I was misreading that we outhit them, they had a few errors and the Birds still lost 8-2? Yikes.

How did Jay look against the lefty?

by paposse on Jul 28, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Hmm.

Seems rather quiet in here this morning. Perhaps this wasn’t such a good idea…

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I've got to go to a hearing,

so I’ll put a few music questions to you.

I didn’t like Expo 86 by Wolf Parade but am now warming up to it. Your thoughts?

What do you think of Ratatatat’s new album?

Did you see the Islands when they came to St. Louis on the 9th? I’ve always wondered how they would be live.

What is your favorite album released in July so far?

Thanks.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really like Expo 86.

Great New Wave-ish sort of sound, but still so very Krugified.

I haven’t heard Ratatat’s new one in full yet, but the couple tracks I’ve heard seem solid. I have to reserve judgement for now.

No, I couldn’t make the Islands show. I was very disappointed. I think Swans live would be brilliant.

And July record? Hmm. Hang on, I’ll have to actually look and see what all has come out in July specifically. Give me a bit.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Expo 86 is way awesome

Check out the new Arcade Fire record, favorite record of this summer

by riotmute on Jul 28, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wife's birthday was yesterday

We went out for dinner. I got him and turned on the game just in time to see Miles pop up with the bases loaded. Then then turned off the tv and did the dishes.

Anyway, the solution is clear. DFA Miles. Bring up Craig. If Greene can’t go just role with skip and ryan every day.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, a thousand times yes.

Why is this so hard for the guys who are supposed to be such smart ‘baseball people’ to see?

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he wants Craig off the Major League roster so he can claim he's not MLB-ready

so he doesn’t have to trade him.

or maybe mutant elephants.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't honestly understand it.

The dynamics of this team are puzzling to me. Why certain players retain roster spots is just beyond me, TLR or no TLR.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree if the players are of equal value only pick youth if they can't develop anymore, otherwise keep fine tuning them

The problem here is that the young players are of much higher value and some have no need for more grown in AAA but the braintrust is listening to Horton/Hrabosky and blowing a load at the thought of “veteran”

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

we draft a lot of college guys, but our "young" players tend to be 25-27 and treated as if 22

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've long thought that Miles must have

incriminating pictures of LaRussa. Is there any other reasonable explanation?

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Miles IS La Russa.

I’m not being facetious; I honestly think that’s why. Aaron Miles is basically who Tony was as a player, just enough better with the bat you can almost justify his spot.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's exactly it

tlr is just crazy irrational when it comes to miles because it’s like he’s managing himself

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Almost

Until you see him take every ground ball off his chest….then I still want to throw things at the TV…..

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

there's a

“This is beyond baseball” parody in here somewhere.

by nycbirdo on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

then you must shoot the tv when schu is out there

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct, sir

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

not when he played

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this is hilarious

even though I had to read it twice.

"I have CDO. It's like OCD, but the letters are in alphabetical order. Like they should be."

by BigMOman on Jul 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how appropriate your username is given the subject matter

Well done.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

18 men LOB last night

Pujols = 5
Holliday = 4
Miles = 5

by UNCDubya on Jul 28, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

internet fame seems to be getting to him

must be off-field issues

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

halloween 2010

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

That cat definitely pissed on the bed for the next week.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's probably azru's favorite.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's Felonious!

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
STOP TRYING TO TRADE SHELBY MILLER!!

by BVHeck on Jul 28, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Where the hell do you get those dog lobster suits anyhow? I’m struggling to imagine the conversation/though process the person/people who designed that product actually went through.

Can I buy a dog costume somewhere for my lobster?

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

went to dinner and still washed the dishes?

I thought you could only pay for a meal like that on tv?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Smart Baseball or Bias

I guess I feel like stirring the pot a bit, but look at these numbers and tell me who deserves to be cut:

AVG OBP SLG OPS OPS+
Greene .273 .351 .424 .776 108
Miles .317 .344 .350 .694 88
Schu .262 .325 .341 .666 80
Ryan .201 .265 .285 .550 48

How can you look at this and conclude that Miles that needs to go more than Schumaker? At least Miles costs less. I can’t really see the case that Schumaker has better defense than Miles.

Admittedly, Schumaker’s number have started to come around the past two weeks.

Over the last 14 days:
Schu .333 .407 .542 .949
Miles .320 .346 .320 .666

Ryan, though, is starting to look hopeless.

The truth is that we have no clearly optimal option in the middle infield, so TLR is going to keep playing with different match ups. I don’t see that this strategy is less justified than simply going on a gut-level evaluation of players.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you keep insisting on using

Miles’ 60some odd PA’s to argue that he’s good at baseball. There is not enough data there to suggest that he’s anything but what he is. Bad at baseball. At least Skip and Boog have a track record to suggest that this year is an anomaly. And Skip has started gravitating to his career norms. Aaron Miles is a nice guy, and should be offered a coaching spot in Palm Beach or something. He should not be getting playing time on this, or any MLB team for that matter.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

We All know....

…he is our (un)official team mascot who probably shouldn’t do moore than pinch hit on occasion, but injuries have forced TLR to be creative. besides, he does add his grittiness to the cowlective.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are the Boog

Consistence is futile.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I would be just fine

with him getting playing time on the Reds MLB roster.

by WyoCardsFan on Jul 28, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would you use 60 PA's of Aaron Miles

to determine that he’s better than those other two guys, considering those other two guys were twice as good as Miles was just last season.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Miles has 4 infield hits out of 28 groundballs hit

Ryan has 3 infield hits out of 94 groundballs and Ryan is much faster than Miles. Miles’ luck to this point is staggering, with a .300 BABIP (which is far too generous for how softly he hits the ball), his line looks like .265/.300/.290. There are 27 pitchers with a higher ISO than Miles. This on top of being horrible on defense.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

In his *66 PAs*,

Miles has a .352 BABIP, 9.3% LD rate, .314 BA, and .304 wOBA. A player’s offensive output cannot be more hollow than that of Miles. Miles’s career-high BABIP is .342 with a 21% LD rate. Why on earth would anyone think Miles deserves a chance to play over Schumaker or Ryan or (especially) Greene?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

oddly, it's our starting third baseman being out that has exposed our middle infield

i wish they’d move carpenter up to memphis already, see what he can do – seems a bit of a freeze clone.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno if that's the solution

when a large part of the problem is albert’s .333 OBP since june 24

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zoinks!

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

egad

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brendan Ryan

still awesome in New York.

I have never hated a midseason deadline like I do now. Boooooooogtradebait. Shelbyyyyyytradebait. Jayyyyyyyytradebait.

how am I supposed to enjoy the good parts of the game? cutting off me arms!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

It is rather worrisome, isn't it?

Checking the newsfeed every day, hoping not to see something stupid having happened, yet still hoping SOMETHING happened.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

at least we can watch RFL

without going one minute between discussions of how Craig/Jay can replace him.

it’s more like five minutes.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm fine with almost nothing

westbrook or his ilk to fill penny;s shoes is all we really need right now
we take his salary and give them boggs or his ilk seems best

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

How Good..

Will Colby be? I thought he would be hitting 3 hundo this season.

by albertrodgers on Jul 28, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

it smells like there are off-field issues going down.

I’m leaning to health reasons.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Doesn’t he already have 16? You don’t think he’ll hit 20?

by Toddius on Jul 28, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's all my fault

a little while back I predicted that Colby would get to 20 before Albert

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt he ever hits above .300.

Just doesn’t have the contact skills. A .900 OPS annually is certainly doable, but I just don’t think he’ll ever be a high average guy.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

And walkapotamouse

I love Colby and I would take a high OPS guy with smooth defense any day even if he never goes above .300. I just hope he gets back to getting better in the second half like he did in the minors rather than what’s happened the last 2 years where you wonder what’s happening behind the scenes.

"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 28, 2010 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

haven't seen much of the past 5-6 games

but the first game after the all-star break i thought he suddenly looked pretty thin again.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if anyone has noticed

With all the other crap flying around, but Albert Pujols (and to a lesser extent Matt Holliday) is taking a metric ton of first pitch strikes, it just seems that pitcher KNOW he’s going to take the first pitch so they can throw whatever the hell they like right down central and El Hombre just ain’t gonna swing.

Has anyone else noticed this or am i going crazy insane?

100% Sober, 40% of the time

by Aranathor on Jul 28, 2010 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

can it be both?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

big thing about last night...

Albert 0 for 5. Holliday 1 for 4. Big guys don’t get it done, we don’t get it done.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

true 'nuff.

maybe they don’t like the Effort Chart.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't Albert 1 for his last 16 or 17?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

now thats ugly

100% Sober, 40% of the time

by Aranathor on Jul 28, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Goold's writeup
His fifth 0-for-five game of the season extended his current run to one for 20.

He’s hitting .296. That just seems… weird.

by paposse on Jul 28, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if it were April or May I wouldn't worry

But it’s almost August. Kinda weird.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's had a bunch of these mini-slumps this year

in past years seems he’s instead had just one (more-prolonged) slump – that’s how it seems, anyway.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

true dat

The most likely explanations for Albert’s declining performance are (1) random fluctuation; and (2) age-related decline. IMO, it’s a little of each.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 28, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you watch his BABIP, it's easy to think this is partly random

but if you watch his K% it’s easy to think he’s really declining.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

BABIP doesn't mean anything without context

I remember looking at it last year and thinking “Wow! How much better would he be his BABIP normalized to his career numbers!”

But then I looked at the batted ball data, and he was trading line drives for fly balls

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

His LD% is up from last year, and GB% and FB% have both dropped.

I know it’s still well below his career average, but it seemed to work out okay last year.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

up from last year

which was way down from his career numbers. i don’t know why you’re only looking at last year’s numbers

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I mean to say is there's a lot of variation in this, but it's not enough to say

“less line drives, ergo lower babip” and chalk it all up to a perceived decline.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and then i watch is ABs

and he looks lost, so i take all the evidence i already have and i clank it up to a perceived decline

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you said clank to chalk

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know, chalkball

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i got the joke

thought it was funny.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

um,

his BABIP being out of whack would suggest that it’s not random, right? considering the definition of random

but i’m willing to wager that he’s not getting particularly unlucky, too, which is where i think you’re going. his LD% is down from his career numbers, his O-Swing is way up and his Z-Contact is way down. BB% is down, K% is up, etc

it doesn’t look pretty for albert this year. i almost hope he’s injured, because if not, that $300MM contract is going to be begin to hurt right away

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert has played injured for a long time.

When was it that his elbow problem was diagnosed? He was playing the outfield. Last year after the ASG his production fell off and I assumed, let-down after being the virtual host of the ASG and the elbow.

This year, his health is supposed to be good and he is not having the results we would expect. It’s very interesting to read all this data supporting what I have noticed.

But you know what else. He looks old. I just don’t know how else to say it. Could he be worn out? Some people’s bodies don’t hold up as well.

I share your concern about the $300MM.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

but this year

his decline is mostly in judgment on when and what to swing at
many more bad decisions than in the recent past
eyes? contract? home?

who knows

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could send him to Colby's eye doctor

Kidding. But Albert is a smart guy. If there is something to figure out and fix, it would be done by now. So there is something wrong he or the cardinals cannot fix and we are not being told what it is.

Contract? maybe
An undisclosed injury? definite possibility with this bunch.

It’s unfortunate all this is going when DeWitt et al have such a big commitment staring them in the face.

eh, in another way who cares? I’m burnt out on this team. Until the next time they do something awesome, of course.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess would be he senses/feels a slight (slight) decline

in his hitting ability, but is exacerbating that by compensating with over-thinking/pressing/cheating, with the emphasis on cheating (which includes guessing). and i want to emphasize the SLIGHT decline, which he’s just making worse. and this is just a guess.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert's first strike % is 46.8

which is the second lowest of his career, behind last year’s 46.6. His career rate is nearly 52%.

So, no. That’s presumably not happening, or if it is, pitchers haven’t caught up to it yet.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's struggling a bit

He’s opened his stance up, and maybe he’s taking some first pitches because he’s not picking up the ball as well lately. He wasn’t taking many first pitch strikes earlier in the season, and I can think of 5-6 times off the top of my head where he’s hammered a first pitch for a homer or a double.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

and several fat ones

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like it watching

but fangraphs say his FS% is 46.8% this year vs. 51.7% career. So, it would seem, he’s actually seeing fewer first pitch strikes (of course, I guess he could be taking more…. I didn’t see that split on fangraphs).

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 28, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert's first strike % is 46.8%,

according to Fangraphs. His career low is last year at 46.6%.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

im pretty sure Bert takes first pitch fastball damn near every AB.

 i guess its not always a strike, but still. There’s selective, and there’s predictable. Not that i am gonna tell bert how to hit a baseball….

by zeruko on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

if Alberto is getting predictable, maybe someone should tell him.

It seems counter-intuitive to swing at the first pitch, but what the hell, the results can’t be much worse that whats happening already

100% Sober, 40% of the time

by Aranathor on Jul 28, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

After the last few games...

Is it better to put Jameson or Baileys in my coffee?

Is there a forwarding address that I can send the invoice so that the Cardinals pick up the tab?

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions  

this seems to be a great answer for today.

both!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...it's definately both....

That’s my Sunday morning ritual.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Middleton's!!!!!!

?Does not endorse using Middleton’s in coffee.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Taillon!

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why bother with the coffee part?

Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 28, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Seconded

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

on a more positive note, starcraft 2 finally came out

as for baseball, i get that the offense sucks but our defense with a certain someone on 2nd and recently a certain someone on 3rd ain’t exactly stellar either. that, and having one of your only 3 decent starters implode – plenty of things to complain about

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

This is very true.

Miles in particular is just painful to watch. At least Floppy does the job on one side of the ball; watching Miles dive for things two foot to either side and still miss them makes me angry in a way one should not get angry over a baseball game.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

i really don't want to hate the guy

cause i’m sure he’s probably a decent person
but defensively he’s a nightmare and it beats the hell out of me how his numbers are so good
but he can’t hit a watermelon flying at him 65mph in a clutch situation
that and rick horton’s “he’s probably a plus defender” yesterday is just too much
i expect my head to explode any minute now

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should avoid ever listening to anything Ricky Horton says.

I recommend the mute button and a nice record. Leonard Cohen goes down well with baseball.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ricky Horton

is a nice counter argument for anyone who insists that you have to have Played The Game™ in order to truly understand it. Or that said people necessarily have a better understanding of baseball than the rest of humanity.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

What kills me,

is this is a guy who pitched on a team with Ozzie Smith up the middle. Yet, he is calling Miles a “plus defender.” Are you kidding me? This is insulting to anyone who ever watched Ozzie play, especially when this fellow witnessed it from the pitchers mound.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

First We Take Manhattan...

Then we take St. Louis!

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 28, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're Muppets?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

See sig

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's pretty great, i played some yesterday

worth the… what was it 12-, 13-year? wait

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something like that.

I was still in high school when the first one came out, so it’s at least twelve years.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tetris and MarioKart for me...

"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.

by pattimagee on Jul 28, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got Final Fantasy I on my phone now

I play it constantly.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I played Dragon Warrior

till my thumbs fell off. My budddy actually had a seizure after one 12-hour, all night session of the game.

I’d love to see a new, updated version out, though it would probably cost me my job and a divorce.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 28, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dragon Warrior was a good one

A new Shinning Force game would also cause me marital issues…

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have inappropriate feelings towards Shining Force.

I’d do awful things to any sequel produced in America.

by Mulliganstew on Jul 28, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm playing II right now.

Well, not this second. I have FF1 on the Wii, played through it a few times last year.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

a few times!

WHY

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have psx emulator available for my phone

if i wanna cough up $5 for the emu, i could be playing ff vii at work

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

My computer can't run SC2

I even watch some commentaries online and the whole bit, but I tragically will not be buying it right now, as I can’t afford to upgrade my 3-year-old laptop to a gaming PC. :(

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, schu has a great game 2 nights before and miles starts ?

by knifecakes on Jul 28, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

TLR's

Actually, lefty pitching.

by paposse on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

defensive benching is my guess.

also: lefties.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

way out of left field, but...

Austin Wilson….what’s your strategy to sign him?

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Ya....that was good.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what else?

Saddam Hussein had a poster of the 1987 Stanford College World Series champions on a wall in one of his palaces.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jack McDowell attended Stanford on the Fidel Castro Leadership Scholarship

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Stanford baseball team taught

Tiger Woods how to hire hookers.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 28, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

See, now

that would be a reason to go to Stanford.

Now, if you’re talking about how they taught Tiger Woods to hire the specific type of crazy hookers that Woods frequented … well, then yes, I would think Austin Wilson would run from Stanford.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, no, no.

Let his PARENTS find out about how the baseball team taught Woods how to hire strippers.

You know, kinda like this:

You know Mr and Mrs. Wilson, Tiger Woods is a very proud Alumn of Stanford. He says he owes a lot of his growth as an adult to his time recreating with the baseball team.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 28, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention a tree that has been ejected multiple times from basketball games

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fixed

 There should also be serious consideration as to whether your best option

is to attend a college whose mascot is AN INTOXICATED TREE!!!!!!.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, the Cardinals are more inclusive.

While the Cardinal seem to be part of some anti-pluralization sect that wants to remove the S out of everything.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

they have a tree as a mascot, and a color as a team name

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure his guide, allen craig, cal alum, brought that up

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, you don't really even have to do that.

Just tell him the truth, and look at the recent track record of Stanford developing hitters. They can do pitching, but hitters who go to Stanford get worse, not better.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really hope we sign both Cox/Wilson

Cox seems pretty impressive as a hitter and I don’t want to kick myself when he becomes the next Zimmermann/Longoria type.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's left handed

So I’m hoping for the next Robin Ventura….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the

“Name a left handed hitting third baseman who’s better than Robin Ventura” thread?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

you even included Jim Thome

who wasn’t ever really a third baseman..

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

There was a reason they moved him to first base, and that reason was not Matt Williams….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Duncan

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Will Work For Food"

sign-holding takes GRIT.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised Tony hasn't brought him up already if he has that much grit.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRussa

prefers Proven Veteran™ GRIT.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

can't argue that.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

im at stanford right now so ill help

By burning the baseball field down and spreading nasty rumors about the dorm food or something

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Jul 28, 2010 1:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fucking Stanford

Ruined my only chance at a National Championship here my freshman year ;_;

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey now this isn't twitter

I don’t need to know everything you did.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just peed again

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

again? well that one time too many

you should see a doctor in case you have rectal cancer, I suggest you get that checked out.

you should also see a therapist(also an analyst), he’s really good. here’s his business card

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6945/screenshot005pm.jpg

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Better Cover of Pixies' Gouge away?

1.) Promise Ring
2.) Action Camp
3.) Papa Roach

?

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Meh.

I’ll say Promise Ring, but I’m not a huge fan of any of those cover versions.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you make all the way through the papa roach cover there is a surprise...

the surprise is coming to the realization that papa roach is really a horrible band. Okay. So it wasn’t a surprise. I just just wanted to see if anyone could make it through…

Better version of Enjoy the Silence

1.) Tori Amos
2.) Amberlin
3.) Linkin Park. (remix)

Sorry for the music questions. I just can’t think about baseball right now

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

Tori’s is okay. I don’t know the Amberlin one, honestly; I’ll have to check it out.

And you’re lucky I don’t ban you for typing Linkin Park.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

meh

papa roach are a very entertaining band live

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

This.

I know I am in the minority here not liking the indy rock stuff and preferring hard rock/metal but I’m glad you wrote that. I wasn’t a Papa Roach fan but a buddy dragged me to a show last year. My god were they entertaining. Once of the best shows I’ve seen. (Although, I felt old there)

by paposse on Jul 28, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not a metal fan...

but my wife is. She drug me to the metal mayhem festival last week. Metal bands put on a great show.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

rob zombie was probably the best stage show i've seen in my life

and i’ve seen many many live shows
this year’s mayhem was pretty excellent

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rammstein is great live, if you like scary Germans.

Also, as stupid as it is, Gwar is brilliant to see in person. I was hoping to see Mastodon when they came through with the whole Brendan Small/Dethklok thing, but missed it.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rammstein's the one show i'm still waiting to see

and i lived in Germany for 7 years
i didn’t like Mastodon particularly, i saw them maybe 2 yrs ago – but to be fair their sound engineers didn’t do a very good job
Slipknot are also quite excellent live – crazy profusely sweaty excellent

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh.

I’ve never liked Slipknot much. Not sure why.

And yes, if you’ve never seen Rammstein you are missing out in a big way.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

me neither really

until i saw them live

so i guess i’ll have to plan my next trip to germany around a rammstein tour

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen them live.

one of the big festivals. Still didn’t feel it.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've only seen Rammstein once

With Godhead at the pageant. It was right after Joey Ramone died.Rammstein had a great show. Then everyone got on the stage and did Pet Cemetery…

sorry. I can’t get off the cover songs tonight.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

metallica with jsn newsted?

it was so awesome i didn’t care if i was actually going to get out there alive
metallica now – meeeh

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh on Metallica

on everything after Master of Puppets.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

..and justice for all is great

most of what came after is okay
but i think that’s because i’m sentimental

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was Justice after Puppets?

I may have them backward.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, had 'em backward.

Okay, And Justice for All was the last great Metallica record. My mistake.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a big fan.

It wasn’t bad, and Enter Sandman is a classic, of course, but I just never liked the Black album as much as the thrashier stuff which preceded it.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

SLEEP WITH ONE EYE OPEN

GRIPPING YOUR PILLOW TIGHT

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's

GAAAAA-RRIPPIN YER PILLOW TIIIIGHT

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

...........

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we know

the inspiration for Franklin’s chin hair.

That’s just so freaking metal.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maiden

For me it’s always been about Maiden. Just saw them in Cleveland 2 weeks ago for the second time. Both have been there front and center. Love love love their live show.

by paposse on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only Maiden I like is

their first self-titled record, when Di’Anno was still the singer.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

typo

but it helps if people are trying to do a youtube search to have the correct band name.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

by the way

did you get any of the downpour at mayhem?

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

My wife knows Randy from Lamb of God

So we had backstage passes to the show. We were hanging out with him over by the VIP tent during the down pour. So we really didn’t get rained on to much.

Korn is a little more dedicated than Kings of Leon.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

yeah, a liiiitle more

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh and after that the fight starter.

Mad World…

Tears for Fears or Gary Jules. Keep in mind once you answer people will forever judge you on it…

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gary Jules.

And I didn’t even hesitate.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

What's your opinion of Band of Horses?

I seem to be late to the party on them (not a surprise). Didn’t like them at first, but the more I listen, the more I like.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Loved loved loved their first record, Everything All the Time.

The other two aren’t bad, but I’m not as keen on them since the original guitarist left. They seem to have lost something. Still some really high points even so.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same Here....

…love the originals too much

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

None of the above.

Just listen to the original.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

Pixies is the best version. For some reason yesterday I started checking out multiple covers of different songs and comparing them.

It’s amazing how many people have covered the pixies.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah ok, but effin Miles…

by knifecakes on Jul 28, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

How many

years of service does Ludy have in the tank? Will he ever come close to his all star season form again? You know, the season where he was a viable Pujols Protector.

by albertrodgers on Jul 28, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

No.

That was his career season. That being said, he can still be a very productive player, but he’s starting to get expensive now unfortunately.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

His

defense still seams pretty good. Maybe he just needs to get glasses like Ricky Vaughn.

by albertrodgers on Jul 28, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, his defense is top-notch.

And there’s nothing wrong with him. Everyone has a best year; 2008 was his.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

the ben folds and nick hornby collaboration finally has a name and release date

Its called “Lonely Avenue” and it drops September 28th.

1) How excited are you for 9/28?

2) What are the chances that the album title is descriptive of the Cardinals season on September 28?

I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.

Resident malcontented betamale

by slu on Jul 28, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions  

and can we get Joey Slides in to teach these guys how to slide through the catcher?

at least attempt to get to the plate!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:14 AM EDT reply actions  

third time in two nights

the circus music is so loud.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or perhaps put Lankford vs. Daulton on a video loop in the clubhouse?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

missed the game

who was the culprit? in fact, you mention 3 times in 2 nights – missed them all – who all are we talking about?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lopez

He was on third, went to home on contact (which isn’t his fault)

But when he got there, he starts sliding, but doesn’t get very far. Like he stops a foot short of the bag. I’m guessing the dirt is wetter than how they do it at Busch, because it just looked ridiculous

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He shoulda dove in.

Then his cleats wouldn’t have gotten hung up.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since May 4

this team is 37-37.

They are who they are, a maddeningly inconsistent .500 team.

One would hope when (if) Freese returns to third, and Lohse returns to the rotation that they’ll rise above the muck in which they’ve played the large portion of this season. But as the Marine Corps is so often fond of saying: “Hope is not a plan.”

I also think their fumbling of fundamentals this season recalls another Marine Corps saying: “The more you sweat in peace, the less you bleed in war.” Well, the Cardinals have been doing a lot of bleeding in 2010.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

the road numbers are crazy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brendan Ryan has that on a shirt

a version of it, anyway. (video)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you nailed it

they just aren’t very good—not bad—just mediocre (and highly annoying to follow on a daily basis.

Sign Austin Wilson!

by nmstar on Jul 28, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

What needs to change

in the off season (time of peace?) so that the 2011 redbirds are not hemorrhaging all over our dreams?

by albertrodgers on Jul 28, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one who wonders

if the team would respond better to Oquendo as manager?

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, you're not.

Except I don’t limit it to Oquendo.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not limiting to just him

He’s just the first one who springs to mind.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

I’m a big fan of Pop Warner, personally.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

The SIGN JOE MADDON petition will be in full effect this offseason.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jul 28, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Maddon

is metal.

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't want oquendo at all

but i’m wondering, if the cards are going to be young, cost-controlled around our big guys (and contracts), if perhaps tony just isn’t the right guy for that type of roster. i think he showed he can adjust somewhat to younger players – who are perhaps a different breed these days – with colby, but with colby’s talent he really had no choice. the other youngsters are going to be average players, not star talents…so i just wonder.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't blame Big Mac, because I hate playing the hitting coach blame game

but why can’t our hitters do more with the ball? I mean, how many batters last night rolled over the pitch and pulled it down the third base line. Niese kept throwing the same damn pitch because our hitters just kept doing the same damn useless thing with it.

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is puzzling, but I don't know how you fix it.

How do you tell the team to just stop trying to fucking pull everything? Oh, wait, like that.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

And tell the team it's okay to take some pitches.

(I’m looking at you Yadier Molina and Jared Schumaker.)

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

That ship has sailed on Skippy and Yadi.

Neither one is ever going to have anything approaching plate discipline.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is TLR coming back--that's my question

if not, the entire coaching staff is up in the air.

If he is, then the roster will undergo a big change. I think some of the guys can’t play looking over their shoulder to see if they’re going to the bench after a bonehead play.

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

like Ryan, Rasmus, Greene, Craig?

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

and Skip and Lopez

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if some of the bonehead plays would cease

if they weren’t constantly looking over their shoulders…..not that they should be tolerated, but jerking guys around all the time isn’t the best way to motivate them.

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else

Go find something else do during the game when Molina comes to the plate? Especially with runners on? I always go check the fridge for a minute or see what the wife is doing. Anything other than watch his slow rollers to ss for the 6-4-3.

by paposse on Jul 28, 2010 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, god yes.

I realise it isn’t proper to bitch about Molina, but Yadier Molina is my own personal pet peeve. Guy just irritates me, watching him hit groundballs to middle infielders all day long only makes it worse.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think he irritates himself too

he seems so frustrated at the plate
and it started off so well…
argh

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

The last two years were so encouraging

It was awesome to see him make himself into a basically average, and then above average hitter, especially after 2006. This year he hasn’t been 2006 bad, but it hasn’t been pretty.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

My sentiment exactly.

He was so promising and now he is so frustrating. Any longer, I don’t even feel like giving him more days off might help would help.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i still think he needs days off

perhaps it is too late, though. haven’t seen the games, but what’s with the stolen bases on him recently?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's tough to tell.

I almost feel like we might be seeing the mileage of catching so often catch up with him. I would love to see a comparison of Yadi’s number of starts by year and then comparing the number of starts to other catchers (perhaps Bengie?).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russell Martin starts a lot

Kendall is another Iron Man when healthy.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

bengie gets an unreal amount of time off

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’ve been really surprised how bad he’s been. At the start of the year especially, I even wondered if he was going to add a bit of power (I’ve always felt that he has quite a bit of untapped power potential, with his seemingly good eye for contact and, well, size) – he started pulling the ball a bit more, or so it seemed, and I’ve always hoped he’d start doing that a bit more with hittable pitches instead of just poking them into right field.

One thing that’s worried me this year – his BABIP has been low, but I wonder if teams aren’t just playing him a bit better defensively? It seems that 50%+ of his hits are poked pretty low between 1B and 2B, and I wonder if defenses could be shifting the 1B further from the bag (with his speed, the first baseman can still get back to make a putout easily) and moving the 2B closer to 1B, to cut off a lot of the area Yadi gets most of his hits in. I suppose it’d be unusual if suddenly EVERYONE was doing that and no-one had done it previously, but it’s always seemed to me to be a shift that would be very effective against him, at least until he decides to pull the ball more.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mo says

they expect to sign Seth Blair soon and he expects to sign Zach Cox. He didn’t mention the two guys who are more interesting to me: Austin Wilson and Tyrell Jenkins. I get why they are being low-key with Wilson.

I’m kind of puzzled what is up with Jenkins though. I expected they would have a good idea what it was going to take to sign him since they delayed their pick before taking him. Now we hear only crickets chirping about him? Anyone know if they are just waiting to the deadline to announce a deal or if something else is afoot?

Sign Austin Wilson!

by nmstar on Jul 28, 2010 9:27 AM EDT reply actions  

It'll go to the deadline with him either way,

because he’ll definitely be an over-slot guy. The question with him is whether he wants to play football or not. He wasn’t supposed to be a super tough sign, but it wasn’t a given he was going to hop into pro ball, either.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

and apparently he wanted the summer off anyway, so what's the rush?

i think he’s a very good bet to sign, but as baron noted he’ll be a late-sign because it’ll be over-slot, though i don’t think egregiously so. and that money can be spread out anyway, with his 2-sport status.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-star, but headed to Baylor

May mean he wants to play CFB.

As opposed to being a 2-star headed to Texas, for example.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, if he wants to play pro ball, and i suspect he does, it will be baseball

he’d just be losing a lot of money by playing football and delaying starting his pro career.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read somewhere that's he's not very good at football, though

and there are a lot more professional pitching jobs than professional quarterbacking jobs…

I think we sign everyone except Wilson, personally.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Dave Duncan of Hitting......

We all take pride in Duncanstein. But is there a Dumbledore to his Gandalf? Is there someone in the league as known for his voodoo with the bats as Dunc is known for arms?

by albertrodgers on Jul 28, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Rudy Jaramillo

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only know how to spell it because a co-worker has the same last name.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

And honestly, I’m not sure there could be. Game planning for hitters is important, of course, but not in quite the same way as with a pitcher. And all the mechanics guru guys are way in the past.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i am surprised they don't have like iPad's for the players

With video break downs of each pitcher and their tendencies to throw pitches on certain counts. They need a Sabr and video god on this team to help McGwire

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 28, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where's thepainguy?

"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan

by flipthebird15 on Jul 28, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

your honest thoughts on Rasmus, please

Hey RB,

I just wondered how you felt about the Colbster. No playstation/xbox trades or anything, but honest assessment – is he still someone we should allow to grow, or should we cut our losses? The reason I ask isn’t just because he seems lost at the plate lately. He’s shown flashes of true brilliance, but why are they only flashes? Is it off-field stuff? Is it injuries – they seem to be little nagging ones, more than something larger. And I just wondered your thoughts on how he’s treated. He seems like a quiet guy, and I know I have to listen to the garbage Hrabosky spews almost nightly, but I didn’t know if management felt the same way that he does. To the point that I wonder if he will ever reach his true potential with us, or if he needs another environment to succeed, in which case, should we see what we can get for him, or just keep at it.

I know it’s only his 2nd year in the bigs, and I’m probably jumping the gun, but really, at times, what gives?

by A1R3Z on Jul 28, 2010 9:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes, you are most definitely jumping the gun.

Colby was quite possibly the best centerfielder in the game in the first half of the season. As for the streakiness, he’s young and needs to tell his dad to go the fuck away. Beyond that, just tune out what Al has to say about him.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

so no real evidence

as to whether manager/coaches feel the same way Al does? He’s just got some growing up to do?

by A1R3Z on Jul 28, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I don't think he's Tony's favourite person.

Beyond that I don’t know.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I missed last nights debacle,

to go watch the step (kinda) son’s All star district Championship game. They had to be beat twice. Lost the first game 6-5, and won the second for the Championship 4-1. At least I got to watch some good baseball. Their “stud” player hit three dingers between the two games, to of which were over 350’. Not bad for a 12 yo.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

no, we have to sign AJ first!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

The kid's 6'1......

the other coaches have asked for his birth certificate twice so far in the tournament rounds. Silly birthers.
/NO POLITICS.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh oh oh can we do this for height?

get on it, math bitches!

By figuring each player’s batting average based on their bodyweight, we get a look at "Points Per Pound", or P3. The formula is simple: batting average (without the decimal) divided by weight in pounds.
So which Cardinals give the biggest bang for the hunk?

http://www.i70baseball.com/?p=1530

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

How about wOBA instead of batting average?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure

bring on the maths.
because this time….. I said there would be.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

deli section - AVG

of course KMac .500/215 →2.325

Chief Justice .378/200 → 1.89
that guy that should be DFA’d .317/180 →1.76 argh

Greene Tea .273/190 → 1.437
Winn .273/195 → 1.4

Batman .296/220 → 1.345
Jared .262/195 → 1.34
Cheese .266/200 → 1.33
Floppy .271/205 → 1.322

Lego .304/235 → 1.29
Mang .296/230 →1.287

RFL .279/220 → 1.268

Dr Thunder .256/240 →1.067

Boog .201/195 →1.03

Yadi .234/230 → 1.017
Pornstache .208/205 → 1.015

Soup .214/230 → .93
Jaime .188/215 → .87
Waino .148/230 → .64
Carp .119/230 → 0.517

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle McClellan!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

deli section AVG on height

of course KMac .500/74 → 6.757

Chief Justice .378/71→ 5.324
that guy that should be DFA’d .317/68 → 4.662 argh
Batman .296/74 → 4
Lego .304/76 → 4
Mang .296/75 →3.947

Floppy .271/72 → 3.764
Jared .262/70 → 3.743
RFL .279/75 → 3.72
Greene Tea .273/74 → 3.689
Winn .273/74 → 3.689
Cheese .266/74 → 3.595
Dr Thunder .256/74 →3.459
Yadi .234/71 → 3.296

Pornstache .208/71 → 2.93
Soup .214/74 → 2.892
Boog .201/74 →2.716
Jaime .188/74 → 2.541

Carp .119/78 → 1.526
Waino .148/79 → 1.873

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes..there is a site that

tracks this specifically. I can’t remember the name of it though. Sorry.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's been linked on VEB before.....

I’m sure Y2S knows it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

hm

doesn’t open for me either..

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

birdbats

but it’s hard to find. I’m not sure bat weights are automatically listed for everyone, just brand and type.

in fact, I’m not sure how you’d know bat weight just by looking.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

not hard to find

with the proper key word. Thanks.
linki

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, not the site

I meant the complete list of all the players and their bats. you’d have to read through all the archives.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is if you're trying to buy something game-used.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will keep that in mind.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

birdbats

but it’s hard to find. I’m not sure bat weights are automatically listed for everyone, just brand and type.

in fact, I’m not sure how you’d know bat weight just by looking.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ronny Cedeno? I laughed out loud.

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 28, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't look now...

He’s been worth 1.3 WAR so far this season, can pick it with the glove, and hits better than Aaron Miles.

He’s not a huge upgrade, but he’d cost nothing, and Miles would probably be off the team at that point. He’s the perfect TLR defensive replacement.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but

does Ronny Cedeno have GRIT? What’s his GRIT:WAR ratio?

Repeal The LaRussa Tax.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 28, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Livan??? NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Livan no??? Man id say NO to all of them...

Except maybe Westbrook….he isnt even having a very good season. But I.think Dunc could help him. I dont see how Bush is an upgrade over Hawk.

I was lookin at Livans stats….dude was a rookie in 96! Hes in his 15th year! And he was never even very good!

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You're right

But Westbrook at least has a history of showing up in big games, although the 2007 ALCS was a few years (and major surgery) ago. Giving up something for Livan would just be lunacy. I’d (urk) rather have (gag, wheeze) Suppan…..

Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue....

by Futility Infielder on Jul 28, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

and he shall be Livan

And he shall be a good man
And he shall be Livan
In tradition with the Washington Nats

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did leave out a guy apparently....

Strauss just said on the radio that the Cards are also interested in Scott Downs

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 10:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He said its a secondary need....

But that the cards think they need a LHRP, and if Mo can’t pull off a big deal that could be an option.

 He also said the Cards arent out on Oswalt, and that they ate still talking with Hou. He said the Cards are just waiting it out and seeing if Houston comes down on their price

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i think a lot of teams with more pressing bullpen needs are interested in downs

i wouldn’t outbid anyone for him.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Kinney

 has really turned in on at AAA, and he’s pretty effective with that slider.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 28, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

surprised he didn't get the call instead of macdougal replacing salas

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

So the marlins released Nate Robinson

come on mo!!! he has to be better than soup/hawk

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

The Celtics resigned him.

"I got to get Dr. Freeze off my twig right now."-Nyjer Morgan

by flipthebird15 on Jul 28, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

twitter

The Cat reports the Reds are very interested and active in the Roy Oswalt trade talks. Listen live on @insideSTL or @590TheFanKFNS

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

[charlie brown aaaauuuugggghhhhh]

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

lies!

 miklasz RT @johnfayman: Spoke to Walt Jocketty after the game. He said nothing is in works (trades.) “It’s been very quiet,” he said. about 9 hours ago via UberTwitter

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

you realize that you're

quoting “The Cat” and McKernan, right?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Look, just because a man happens to be an expert on cougars

doesn’t mean he can’t be a trade rumour guru as well.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say you were the one lying

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, walt's going to say it's quiet until the deal is done

larry walker was kind of a surprise.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

As bad as the New Orbit Brit Chick is....

…the new fake ska-pop-punk No Doubt wannabe (themselves a crappy fake Hollywood ska-punk band) for Free Credit Score.com makes me want to hurl my cudballs…

:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 28, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't believe I've seen them yet.

Do they wear pirate outfits like the old band?

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice: I posted my disparaging remarks on this band on facebook....

..and the the lead singer sent me this as a message:

  Lucy L. Levinsohn July 28 at 12:57pm

I see you reposted my bands video with an insult. Even your insults are compliments cause you just gave me more exposure. And for that I thank you.
- Lucy

I see an anti-cow song from them in the future!
:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 28, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can the Mets be buyers?

Atlanta’s way, way out in front, and Philly will be better when Chase returns.

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

David Wright

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

bs

soup for santana so it doesn’t change our alphabetical player list

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone having any luck accessing the Cardinals site

for those free tickets?

be the trouble you want to see in the world.
never forget

by il rosso on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions  

you too?

be the trouble you want to see in the world.
never forget

by il rosso on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Virtual Waiting Room

is like a virtual hell right now… Ugh!

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm past the vwr

still not working
i have always thought mlb ticketing needs a better concurrency schedule, but they half ass this as everything else

also small tip: internet explorer gets in quicker than firefox, don’t ask me why
have both browsers going at the same time

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

I decided to use Google Chrome this go round. It’s been running faster than I ever had firefox going. Either way, I’ll keep waiting in purgatory until I find something out.

Looks like more nosebleed seats for me. At least at Busch, every seat is a good seat.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Does that mean they

are finished with the 8,000 free ones?

by goodymobb on Jul 28, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

i selected 2 10 dollar seats wenth through the login etc just to get an error select at least one ticket and then be thrown back into the very first virtual waiting room
fuck it
the mlb can kiss my ass

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

This error?

Error
We’re sorry, we were unable to process your request due to high transaction volumes. Please try to submit your request again.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

so you got to the ticket screen?

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately for me,

I don’t have $10 in my account at this time.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I tried

It’s still the $10.00 tickets. It’s just not working right.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey i got one free ticket

(well it was a $1.25 so so much for free haha)

for mon august 2nd 7:15
section 368 row 11
do you want it?
you can have it
i don’t need it but i kept trying thought someone would enjoy it

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Keep it

I’m sure you’ll find someone who could use it more than I. Thank you so much for the offer though. I truly appreciate it.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah. No big deal.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are compensation

for those who didn’t get free tickets. Also in limited quantites.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't get free tickets...

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna be pissed

when I see empty seats on TV during those games.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

My God...ESPN is just dumb.

They have photoshopped Warrick Dunn and Derrick Brooks’ faces onto “Brooks & Dunn,” the country music singers. I have no idea how this relates to anything.

by goodymobb on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

So basically

Absolutely no chance at any tickets if we’re still waiting?

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

I was hoping to get in on the 17th but doesn’t look to likely.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

tough it out for a bit and see what happens if u have the time

I’ve lucked out before 20 min or so after they went onsale. I would recommend 2 instead of 4…a little more likely to come through.

by goodymobb on Jul 28, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd take 2 in a second if at all possible.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Per the site:

THE FREE TICKETS ARE ALL DISPENSED, BUT THE CARDINALS HAVE MADE AN ADDITIONAL ALLOTMENT OF TICKETS FOR THE SAME GAME DATES AVAILABLE FOR THE DISCOUNTED PRICE OF $10, LIMIT OF FOUR PER CUSTOMER.

(yes it was in all caps)

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like

either a SI Miners or Gateway Grizzlies game. Oh well, a game is a game.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Do Grizzlies...

and get the donut burger thing.

by goodymobb on Jul 28, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do I need a heart attack?

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

twitter stats

Since being traded to Texas, Cliff Lee has 25 Ks and 1 BB. Since being traded to Seattle, Justin Smoak has 22 Ks and 1 BB.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jul 28, 2010 11:55 AM EDT reply actions  

Ha

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

-_-

fml

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you become a mariners fan?

its a long, sad, tough road my friend.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, it's really NOT to be.

I’ve followed the team all summer, gone to more games this year than I can count, and everybody in the front office is just awesome

I think the team will be successful sooner than later. A lot of the struggles this year have been luck-related

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

they made some offseason moves that really looked good at the time.

i picked them to win the AL west…

i still like the mariners as my AL team of choice. they just seem inherently less douchey than basically all other AL teams.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you don't read the sabermetric blogosphere that much, then yeah, they seem less douchey

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

In fairness though, they have kind of taken that up as a self-deprecating joke.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember that report that said the Phillies were the only MLB without a stats department?

…I don’t think we have one. As far as I can tell, it’s Tony Blengino and another guy (who basically does VEP/Steve Sommer type work. SQL databases, stuff like that), who do their own pet projects

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cards have one?

wow…that’s pretty surprising given some of the roster decisions made. Maybe they deal more with the scouting side of things, or maybe LaRussa just ignores them.

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe Mo just ignores them...

I seriously doubt stat guys or scouts are bring their data to tony.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know...

I just like clinging to this optimism that Mo knows what he’s doing and would never, of his accord, make some of these pitiful roster moves

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been thinking about it

And I know we’ve talked about this before, but it’s all about the dynamic between the GM and the manager

Here, Jack Z hired Wakamatsu, so they tend to see eye-to-eye on things, and to some extent, Jack has more power over roster decisions

With the Cardinals, TLR has been with the team much longer than Mo, has a great track record, and is infamously stubborn, so Mo doesn’t have as much power over roster decisions as Jack does

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

my 2 cents on the current state of the cards

well, as we all know, last night was awful. the offense pulled their usual shit against a lefty, albert tweaked something, and waino wasn’t waino.

of course, you have to expect the offensive numbers to be low when you’re running guys like lopez, boog and miles out there. instead of freese and colby, we’re being treated to lopez and jay everyday (nothing against jay, just sayin’). this team has been riddled with injuries up to this point, and it seems like we’re back in the same place we were last year, before trading for derosa and matty. running guys like thurston, ankiel and duncan out there every day was painful to watch, and this isn’t much different.

part of this is tlr’s fault. he’s the guy who wanted miles and soup, and got them. the cards were desperate for an OF at one point to the point where they picked up randy winn. running those kinds of players every so often will not do your ballclub any favors, offensively or defensively.

the cards have to, HAVE TO, do something at the deadline. at this point, i’m past the idea of trading miller. if it takes trading miller for a big name, so be it. this is the kind of time where i liked walt jocketty. if he was still here, he probably would have traded for a big name already.

this team is just too frustrating right now. i thought they were righting the ship during the 8 game winning-streak, but they fell back to reality and have since, losing 4 of 5 since the streak. they gotta do something, or we’ll be seeing flashbacks of the last four years all over again.

by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 28, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

What the hell? Lopez is a really good offensive player. Your irrational hatred of him is odd

I think the best upgrade is to get Freese back. It makes our lineup a little deeper, our bench a LOT deeper, and we don’t have to give anything back.

In fact, it’s almost like trading for a starter…

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree on Freese.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

realistically though

he probably won’t be back til mid August I’m guessing. maybe he’ll flash some more power when he gets back

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

you like to freak out, heh

I have no idea why you don’t like Lopez, he’s a good if not great player. he just kinda sucks at defense, but he’s one of our better offensive players.

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, you're back to hating Lopez.

Huh.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't say that...

he’ll be back on the hating Freese boat. I just got him off there last month.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are quite similar,

but Freese probably has more power (which he has yet to show in the big leagues).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop hating on felipe

its really not cool to lump him in with miles

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

so streak plus post-steak we are 9-4? that will get it done, imo

lopex is not a problem, except for you, it seems – and you’re not even criticizing his defense, but rather his offense? winn has been fine, also.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you and Steve Phillips have a long talk on the phone last night or something?

Seems like a lot of irrationality running around in this comment.

The sky isn’t falling, we just won 8 in a row a week ago.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus dude.

Chill out. We are 10 games over .500 with quite a few important role players missing time, and half our lineup not hitting as expected for various reasons.

You are admiring Walt Jocketty now? Are you turning into a Reds fan on us or what?

This team has been one of the most frustrating I can remember, but at least they are still competitive in the division and a shot at the playoffs.

As for your Lopez hate, I give up….

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jul 28, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday to the Baron!

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't believe you

Not without a 10,000 word retrospective anecdote

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

...also happy birthday

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy B-day RB.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

...you're getting ooooollllllldddddddddd.........

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

well guys, i have ONE TICKET TO GIVE AWAY for Monday 8/2 against the Astros 7:15

all i could get was one so you can’t bring a buddy and it’s not too great but IT’S FREE
section 368 row 11
and the best part – my tickets are in an entirely different part of the stadium so you don’t have to deal with me
who wants it?

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

really guys?

no one wants a free ticket? i can’t attend but here’s a bump.

be the trouble you want to see in the world.
never forget

by il rosso on Jul 28, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does make a new yellow comment though

Maybe we should start calling it “yellowed”! Then we could have our own cool forum lingo.
Yellow’d for Boogs, veber!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got yellowed one time on vacation in-

Wait. Um, never mind.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If it sounds too good to be true

she’s probably got some sort of disease. I speak from experi—
I mean, maor boogs!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

count yourself lucky if u still have both kidneys

OTOH, never lost an organ while “z’ing”.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 30, 2010 3:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

whatever.

i meant “here’s a comment so that yours gets noticed more.” yellowed, if you like.

be the trouble you want to see in the world.
never forget

by il rosso on Jul 28, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

but i'm glad you like my style.

be the trouble you want to see in the world.
never forget

by il rosso on Jul 28, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stopped by sedwick's last night to catch the end of the game after dinner with an old friend

and I missed it (oh well!). right before I left, some guy came up and asked me who won and I told him about the recent skid… and he gave me an interesting pick me up: the cardinals aren’t playing well because many of them are wondering about the trade deadline and who might be traded.

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

But Boog

was offered and he is picking it up! Maybe they should all be placed on the block so to speak.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way way way OT:

I’m looking into getting a DSLR Camera soon (4-6 months). Any recommendations?

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

get a Canon

and if you don’t like Canon, Nikon is good also. I’ve always liked Fuji as well

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm looking in the $1000 range

So probably around a 15 MP with a lower end lens to start with

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that won’t buy a great lens but I should be able to find a decent one, don’t you think?

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seconded

I haven’t bought mine yet, but this is the best one I’m finding from multiple sources.

Where did you end up buying yours? What two lenses do you have? I’m assuming you got the standard one as it’s a great buy at $100, but what is the other one?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

55-250 IS

got it for virtually free
i marched into bestbuy with a bundle offer i had found online
they matched it, no questions asked

someone was asking a while back and i wrote this about the camera

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

I couldn’t remember what the other lens was…

I’m looking at that one and a different one with a better f-stop but not quite as much zoom. I don’t think I’ll need the superzoom for much of anything with what I’m doing.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

you probably won't

i am just so addicted to zoom
when you shoot on large, if you are a normal person, you should be able to crop what you need without needing the insane zoom

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably need something with vibration reduction too if you're going much beyond 200

I can shoot on a 55-200 lens with short exposures without VR just about but my hands aren’t steady enough to shoot anything with more zoom or with slightly longer exposures. I think most modern lenses at that range have VR anyway, other than the bargain bucket ones.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think VR is what Nikon calls them

Canon calls them IS (image stabilized)
and yeah, i wouldn’t buy a non-IS lens even if it didn’t go beyond 55, you’ll never get it in focus

by d-dee on Jul 30, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless you are planning on blowing up your pictures to an absurd size

the number of megapixels your dslr is sporting is largely meaningless. 15MP is just absurd and unnecessary; go for it if it’s the best camera body, but anything over about 8 (or even 6) seriously won’t make any difference for most photography using most lenses. In camera technology the quality of the software inside the camera and the lens on the end of the camera are going to be the retarding features of your image resolution and quality.

I’ve got a nikon d40. If I was buying again, I would DEFINITELY make sure I got a DSLR with an internal motor; motorless cameras need lenses with motors to autofocus, and they are far more expensive than the basic versions. Even if it costs a few hundred more to get a camera with an internal motor, you’ll save that money in the long run on lenses, and you’ll be compatible with far more third party lenses too.

Kit lenses are usually fine (they’re in the 18-50mm range usually) but for shooting things like sports or wildlife (or indeed anything at a reasonable distance) you’ll need something that zooms to, say, 200mm or so. My first two lenses were an 18-50 and a 50-200, and, again, if I was buying again I’d pay a little more and buy an 18-200mm lens that did both jobs. It’ll cost a bit more money and the lens may be slightly less sharp (but probably not to the extent you’ll actually notice) but it’ll be worth it when you consider the hassle of swapping lenses, the potential for getting dust in your camera (and wearing out the lens housing), and the shots you’ll miss if you’re having to swap between lenses to take wider angle and zoom shots.

I like my nikon but I hear good things about canon too. My gf’s dad has a Sony one which is actually quite nice in a retro-y way but a bit noisy.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

to clarify

my D40 doesn’t have an internal motor. Nikon make similar (larger) DSLR bodies with motors, and I think you’ll be able to get one, plus a kit lens (and maybe even the nikon 18-200 if you need the zoom) for <$1k, without checking. I’m sure canon will be similar.

Still bitching to contact.

by Felonius_Monk on Jul 28, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, Jeremy Bonderman?

I don’t really know him very well, but he missed a bunch of time in the last few years. Did he have some kind of surgery? Can he pitch a sinker? He’s never been a groundball guy especially, but could he have something left? His FIP is at 4.32 for the year.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I actually misread something about him originally

So I thought he had been let go or something. I think I was confusing him with someone else on that front.
Anyway, he’s apparently considering retiring at the end of the season if he can’t get a deal with Detroit or somewhere close to home, which seems wacky since he’s only 27 or 28 I think. Kind of intriguing, but since we’d have to trade for him I guess there’s no point.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the Ex-Tigers Stinkers?

nahhh…

:=8P

Although he is the best of the lot (Willis, Robertson, etc)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 28, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

yawn. oh well.

Not sure what this team needs to turn it around but I’m fairly certain Oswalt wasn’t it.

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's good news

At this point we may not even see him in the stretch run or the playoffs if we get there

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so we're the frontrunners

and the Phillies are out of the race…DAMN!

I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don't know why

but I am interested in Jeremy Guthrie.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

/pukes

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

change your avatar back

I’ve been wondering why you haven’t posted for the last 2 days

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jul 28, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

i’m waiting for a clank post so I can change my avatar to match his.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

He isn’t good but IMO he beat Suppan.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has a 4.98 xFIP

and has been worth .9 WAR with the benefit of a .276 BABIP.
So yes, better than Soup’s 5.37 xFIP and -.5 (!!) WAR. but still terrible. I don’t think it would be enough of a difference to justify getting him for anything more than the minimum.
Of course if we only got Lohse back it would all be moot.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

oswalt is such a flip-flopper

The Phillies remain top contenders for Oswalt, although consummating a trade will be difficult before Saturday’s 4 p.m. deadline. Sources said yesterday that Oswalt would waive his no-trade clause to play in Philadelphia, which echoed what Oswalt said Monday. Sources also said his $16 million club option for 2012 is not the sticking point it has been made to be, indicating Oswalt might not make the Phillies pick up the option, if it meant being traded or remaining in Houston.

I thought he wanted to go to the Cardinals so bad? WTF if he goes to the Phillies AND they don’t pick up that option, I think I will be angry.
link

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

so in summary

he’d do anything to get the hell out of houston

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you blame him?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

oh course not

i just wish he wouldn’t have done the “aaah i so want to be a cardinal you are my first choice” thing and then given the phillies the exact same script
but hey, if it were my ass, i’d probably be doing the same thing

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the sentiment about St. Louis was and is genuine.

His desire was echoed by Richard Justice, who said Oswalt wants to be a Cardinals so bad that he would walk to St. Louis. If Oswalt wanted to be a Phillie (Philly?) so bad, he would be one by now. Also, as the deadline approaches, his desperation to get out of Houston may be increasing, making his demands less set in stone.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember him making a similar comment a few years ago as well, when the Astros were still good.

I think there are a lot of players that truly want to play in St. Louis, due to the fan support and the franchise history. I can think of only one guy that’s been run out of St. Louis by the fans (Keith Hernandez, although you could make an argument for Garry Templeton too I guess) and that was 30 odd years ago, so players don’t even think about it.

Midwest niceness, coupled with fantastic history, a great ballpark, and great fans? I think that’s why we hear these comments from a lot of players. You hear the same thing about the Dodgers, or at least you used to.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

From reading Keith Hernandez's book I believe that it was Gussie Busch

and Whitey that ran him out of town due to his drug issues.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not for the Just For Men commercials?

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

haha… HE MOVES AND GROOVES….HE SCORES!!!

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's Keith Hernandez!

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm STILL not helping him move!

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It was

but there was a strong fan contingent that wanted him gone too, at least that’s how my uncle tells it and he’s lived in the area for 30+ years.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha

I’m sure the the Hernandez book was maybe a touch biased :)

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would respectfully disagree. . .

with your uncle. At the time of the trade there were all sorts of threats about torches, pitchforks, and blood running in the streets, mainly because Herzog was man enough not to disclose the real reason that Hernandez was traded (i.e. Hernandez snorting any white powder that he could find on a regular basis). Hernandez was very popular at the time of the trade, and the “haul” that the Birds got back was nothing special (Neil Allen, Rick Owenby and maybe some other assorted trinkets).

It was only after it came out that Hernandez had a drug problem that the fans forgave Whitey.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tino would like a quick

word with you fourstick.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was about to post old #24's name.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember Tino getting lambasted by fans during AB's

but maybe I’m misremembering. The media hated his guts, I do know that.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got roasted regularly on the PD boards

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert Pujols gets roasted on the PD boards

I don’t put a lot of stock in what’s said over there.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm...different level of roast

Pujols – light roast
Tino – very dark roast

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Templeton kinda cut his own throat with the way that he played.

I don’t think that he really wanted to be here because those weren’t great teams we had back then. Then he flipped off the fans that were heckling him after he drew a walk and Whitey came out of the dugout and physically threw his ass off the field. Which was when we acquired Ozzie and the rest is history.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Astros ultimately have to OK the trade too though

I’m willing to bet the Phillies see their window to compete as closing way faster than the Cards see theirs. Maybe they’re just willing to offer way more than we are?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can the phillies possibly have the pieces?

they are always fucking trading. i don’t get it

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh...

@ KenRosenthal #Cardinals out, #Dodgers making no progress. #Phillies divided about whether to take add’l payroll and trade add’l prospects. #Astros #MLB

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have a pretty deep farm

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

not so sure about that

the talent they got back for lee certainly didn’t match the talent spent for halladay. but they can trade werth for prospects to flip to houston.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well sure, but their farm is still DEEP; way deeper than ours

Somebody like Gillies would probably be the #2 or #3 prospect in our system

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

As we speak, Dom Brown just got called up to replace Victorino, who was DLed

Should be fun

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i guess it just depends on which team you compare them to

for how deep they are.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werth, Happ, & ???

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can do the trade without a separate trade with Werth, it says

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he was willing to not pick up the option to play here

the issue would have been what the astros wanted for him.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm glad Mo stuck to his (reported) offer

of Boog + Jay

Roy’s too expensive otherwise in terms of $$ and prospects

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, well I'm gonna split...taking off from work a little early then heading to the

game tonight. Going with a contingent of 8 or so other Cards fans, so there’ll be some solid STL support coming from our section. Let’s go Jaime! (This would be an appopriate spot for a Garcia graphic)

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Pick up some offense on the way to the game, and dont forget the hits with RISP!

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 28, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

And, if you have time, drop off the Miles at Goodwill

Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 28, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

MAKE TIME!!!!!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't give anyone any ideas

Somebody will think it’s fun to go to Goodwill and pick up a cheap Aaron Miles, mostly ironically. Then hipsters will catch on and start spending real money on Aaron Miles reproductions, and this will spiral out of control and somehow lead to the completely collapse of our precious national economy.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except in real life "completely" is an adverb and not an adjective

because I suck at typing.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a feeling Mo will make some sort of move before saturday

But what I dont understand is if we are going to trade for a pitcher or even a MI for that mater why we haven’t already done so. I know you tend to overpay a bit for trading early but the cards have said they are leaning more towards a tradw where they can pick up salary and not give up as many prospects. So, in that case trading earlier does not necessarily mean giving up more….

I would love for us to pick up a starter or MI before the deadline but a trade now would be far less beneficial. We have already been running Suppan, Hawk and Miles out there for over a month.

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 2:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And now we are about to get Freese and Lohse back....

I still think we NEED a starter I just wish we could of got someone a month ago….

Especially if some of these rumors are true and the Cards are lookin at guys like Dave Bush and Livan Hernandez. You cant tell me a deal for a player of that quality just wasnt out there a month ago.

By the way…anyone have any recent updates on Freese or Penny? Looks like the cards were overly optimistic on Freese again too, they said the toe wouldnt effect his return. Well, they said 2 weeks from the break. That would be today and I haven’t heard anything about him even being close.

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 2:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It'll be Westbrook I'd imagine

and they might buy low on a middle infielder and pray. Someone like the aforementioned Cedeno.

I think just getting Westbrook is the key. If Lohse comes back that means Hawk and Soupy are out of the rotation. You just have to hope Freese comes back and is a productive player.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their internal prognosis on Freese will dictate a move (or not) for a MIFer, IMO.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

cheap middie?

better than gotay?

he’s only what 27 and a “vet”?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't play SS though, and I'd imagine that's what they're looking for

Cedeno is Izturis 2.0, although he’s probably not as good defensively.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

updating all of you

who have been waiting anxiously along with me, my license was issued by the state of MO today. I’m still waiting on the missus to get the high speed set up at home. Apparently the options are few and far between for the great city of Advance. Once that happens, perhaps I will dig into the SLAP lesion as the robot requested. Also, I’m going to Lexington this weekend for a continuing education course titled “The Rotator Cuff and the Master Athlete” in which Dr. Ben Kibler, one of the leading researchers on rotator cuff injury and repair will be speaking. Should be interesting stuff and I’ll definitely do what I can to share

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Jul 28, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Congrats again scoot.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats doc!

so um.. i have this pain in my shoulder blade…

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stephen Strasburg? Is that you?!

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So dumb

Every pitcher in the big leagues right now has “shoulder stiffness and inflammation” outside of maybe Suppan since he throws 85.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

They’ve probably had “shoulder stiffness and inflammation” as a constant since they were probably 19-20 from what I understand, so that doesn’t rule out that they are in the best shape of their life since they are probably stronger/better in other areas than when they were <18!

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. I got done with the report that I've been working on all summer, so I'm basically just chilling

and doing sideprojects until the summer’s over

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hit F/X!!!!!!

Go get it..now.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just emailed Tony Blengino about it, asking him if we had it and if I could take a glance at it >_>

That’s not overstepping my boundaries, is it?

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by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say not.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

I would find it endearing in a professional way.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

people typically love talking about their work

OTOH, seeing their names posted on internet message boards by some intern, not so much. Just a thought.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 28, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too late now

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a reason I never ever ever ever go to Lookout Landing or any other Mariners blog

And I don’t post anything that would get me in trouble here

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's good.

Cuz I’m betting it would take them about 5 seconds to figure out who you are.lol

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the speed of your internet connection

Click username, click website link. That might take less than 5 seconds.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, and my name is in my username

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, good luck.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 30, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liken TLR's obsession to Miles

To any others addicts obsession with their vice of choice. You know your friend needs to stop with the drinking, drugs, Gambling, whatever. You know he’s not going to listen to you until they hit rock bottom. So you watch in horror and hope for the best, but you know better. You know how this is going to end.

Every time Miles hits a 50 foot single, I know in my heart thats 5 more AB’s until Tony faces reality. As it stands now, he’s not going to see what any sober thinking person knows to be true until September most likely, and that scares the hell out of me.

by Merry CRasmus on Jul 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

what generally happens

when you have a team packed with talent that plays way under their heads? doesn’t the manager usually get fired?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

not a chance TLR gets fired.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're not that under preforming...

It’s not like we are 8 games back or anything.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks to the performance of our top 3 starters....

so it could be said that Dave Duncan is TLR’s job security.

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by Heisenberg on Jul 28, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

8 games back in a weak division?

i’m not comparing the team relative to other weak teams. this team is been a .500 team since the end of april. that’s not acceptable

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, if you just look at the standings

but we’re currently under-performing our Pythagorean (actual 55-45 vs. Pythag 58 – 42). Preseason, BP pegged us for 94 wins, at our current win % we’re on pace to finish with 89. That’s what I’d call some pretty serious under-performing, especially when many around here thought we’d outdo our projected wins and some even thought we could hit the 100 win mark

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

so we are under-performing our pythagorean by 3 games

is that the cut off for firing the manager?

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I never said fire the manager

I was just speaking to the point of under-performance.

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

when a team

that is supposed to be the class of the league play .500 ball over a 3 month stretch of the season, that’s my cutoff

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i will never understand that

that 3 month stretch also happens to be when he was given Suppan, Hawksworth and Company as the 4-5 pitcher. They lost their 3rd baseman, filled that position with the only guy that can hit playing second and short stop.

Not to mention injury time to our stud RFer, and young stud CFer.

Tony’s had a few head stretchers but to soloing blame him for that is silly.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be like blaming him for June-September 2006.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's also

when he was handed a .900 OPS from colby, a negative ERA from garcia and an even better cy young campaign out of wainwright than last year. it hasn’t all been the breaks this year

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This supposes that this manager would start the .900-OPSing Rasmus.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay has a 1.028 OPS

the only argument I can come up with for sitting colby is to ride Jay’s hot streak until other teams figure him out and give colby time to get his body and mind straight

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by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay's OPS by OF position:

LF: .533
CF: .713
RF: 1.358
PH: .833

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's interesting

i dunno if it really means anything, though

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn't,

except the Jay may be cooling, since most of his RF stats occurred while Ludwick was the DL.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

without looking at his splits

could also mean he is facing more lefthanders while in CFer. Since he seems start there over Colby a lot when facing a left hander.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay's "hot" streak is also fueled a lot by a "lucky" streak

Dude is rockin a .425 BABIP. That’s not to say it’s all luck, but the >1.000 OPS wouldn’t be without a hefty portion of bloopers falling in.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

better to be lucky (Miles) than good (Craig)

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by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

F YOU GOBS!!!!

Aaron Miles barely makes contact, gets like a dozen freaking infield hits, reaches on errors but gets them ruled hits, sports an inflated BABIP, and is still making starts

meanwhile, Craig BABIPs in the .090s for awhile while smoking the ball to the tune of a 30% LD rate, has a piss poor BA to show for it, and gets treated like a red-headed stepchild most of the time

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rasmus's OPS

has been .738 over that three month period.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is the product of a terrible july

a july where he’s pretty much been replace by jay who is playing out of his mind right now

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is kind of misleading.

It has been up and down, which is reflective of Rasmus’s streakiness.

April: 1.171
May: .677
June: .984
July: .554

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not kidding misleading

he is the one who selected a 3 month period that we are .500 and then said Tony had Rasmus tearing the cover off the ball.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean

Over the season Rasmus has been great. And July was marked with injury and missing some games. So it is nothing to panic over. (Though im not convinced he still is completely healthy)

But Aaron Miles did out slug him in July.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, it might not be a terrible idea to option colby for a few weeks

#1, it’ll let him get his head on straight, and #2, it’ll gain a it’ll gain us a year of club control.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 28, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would it get his head on straight?

Or would he feel slighted by the organization?

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i have a feeling it would get him down even more

the same way he was when he didn’t make the team in ’08 and slumped all year

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

head on

apply directly to the Colby?

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way they option him, and i don't think they should

the DL would be different, if something is wrong. but would that really gain us a year of club control (interesting…)?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

DL would not. Option would.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 30, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to Brian Bartow (don't know who that is)

Macdougal got called up today?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

forgot about that guy

guess with salas being all beat up, needed some fresh bullpen

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twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

thought kinney was doing better

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: birthday presents

since there’s nothing else going on….what should i get my bf for his birthday? i already got him a new bat bag with his name embroidered on it…. i wanted to get something else, too…something small. there are a lot of men on this site. help!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Aside from baseball, what are his hobbies?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

.....

this is the problem. softball and whiskey, thats it.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn, sbn'd

was supposed to say

< crickets >

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flask with his initials on it

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, too much monograming

small bottle of something good
blue label j. walker or sth

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it weird to give alcohol as a present?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, why would it be?

i mean you’re both over 21 right?
and blue label jw is a fine drink

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

not really

so long as its quality, not a six-pack of Carling

100% Sober, 40% of the time

by Aranathor on Jul 28, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright,cool. i like the jw blue idea.

thanks all

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly, I think JWBlue is overrated and

overpriced. Try going to an upscale liquor store that specializes in scotch and see if they can recommend a nice single-barrel for around the same price or even cheaper. I’m not an expert by any means, but maybe Glen Livet 21

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm i might do that. i'm not a whiskey girl so i have no idea

JW blue gets points for name recognition though

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, +1 on the Glen Livet

and the price point is at least as good as JW Blue.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 28, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

For something really different

Lagavulin is my favorite. Although the taste is so distinctive (smoky) and different from most Scotch that even some long time scotch drinkers aren’t crazy about it.

by NCSaluki on Jul 28, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ever had Laphroaig?

I am by no means a Scotch expert but that one was pretty strong and smoky to me

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laphroaig is great

very similar flavor to the Lagavulin but about 60% the cost (at least here in the stupid NC state controlled liquor stores)

by NCSaluki on Jul 28, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find government run liquor stores to be a bizarre phenomenon

Anyway, I don’t drink enough Scotch to just go and and buy it at any time (been working on a bottle of Talisker forever) but maybe I’ll check out Lagavulin sometime.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

already has one

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hm. What jd said below is good

Browse through Uncrate. It’s just a buyer’s guide for awesome guy stuff

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by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Maybe a referral to this place?

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by Heisenberg on Jul 28, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

What kind of whiskey?

If he likes rye (i.e. what Don Draper drinks on Mad Men), there’s a great small batch distillery here in Iowa called Templeton Rye (we can hardly get it here it sells out so fast). It was the whiskey featured in all of Al Capone’s Chicago Speakeasy’s during Prohibition and a descendent of the original moonshiner began making it again about 5 years ago with just an Iowa distribution license, but you can get it in Illinois now and also online. Link.

It’s very, very hard to find, but the merch on their website is cool and you could also give him a distillery tour if you don’t mind driving quite a ways (if you live in St. Louis you’re looking at 6+ hours each way).

Check out the site….lots of good info on there.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe she lives in Arizona.

So probably not practical.

Templeton is pretty wonderful, though, when you can get it.

Semper fidelis tyrannosaurus!

by the red baron on Jul 28, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he usually drinks maker's. i have no idea what kind of whiskey that is.

and i do live in az.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well go for this...

only aboot $35 a bottle here.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ooooh pretty bottle

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's bourbon

which will be a bit darker and smokier.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you had Templeton Rye?

It’s by far my favorite right now, but I have bottles of Woodford and Blanton’s in my home as well.

Haven’t had Crown Royal Black, but I can’t drink Crown Royal without a mixer (the finish is really harsh, imo) so not sure if I’d like it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think I've tried Templeton

will give that a go. crown royal black is better than crown royal fwiw. I also like Bushmills’ dark one. Tallisker is the funkiest whisky I’ve ever tried

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right but none of us know what a girlfriend should get us because we've never had one

The coolest thing I’ve ever gotten was a framed Brad Smith autographed poster of the MU-NU 41-24 “we finally won after 25 years” game. Sports stuff never gets old.

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by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

RB is your bf?

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by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

sigh...if only

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would get him a new softball bat

depending on what type of league he plays in, either a Worth or Demarini

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by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can never have too many bats

I prefer an end-weighted bat for coed and an even-weighted for men’s and depending on the amount of beer consumed at a tournament I vary the weight

I missed any prerequisites on price, sorry.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not particularly small.

And could be expensive. At least, I know that aluminum baseball bats are.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

a good composite softball bat will run you around $300 probably

so, yeah

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS

yeah, that’s more like a present you give for a bigger event. maybe like a ‘hey, we’re finally getting married’ celebration…

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sound, ummm

impatient.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jul 28, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha, mostly kidding....mostly.

that’s a lot of money to spend on a birthday present, especially considering his already has two really nice bats.

still, it was a good idea STLRegalia~!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

start a lay away program

and in a few birthdays he can finally get his bat.

I am currently dropping non-subtle hints for christmas to the wife about a new bat

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't get a bat

i’d suspect he’s particular about his bat, and might just feel obliged to use it even if he hates it…and blames you for his results.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

a hammock

and a Matt Holliday mask?
/this will never get old for me.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

its ok i have finally moved on.

it was hard for me to look at him for awhile. like after you have a random sex dream about a co-worker and then you feel awkward….no? that’s just me?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you can look at his tremendous skull and not shudder?

you’re further along than I am.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he has a favorite baseball player historically, or from his youth,

and you have actual knowledge of his baseball card collection, I would love that. It’s small (but, could be expensive).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not feeling very pleasant today

but i wonder. if almost all dishes are destined for the dishwasher and there is room in the dishwasher, why do they have to have a layover in the sink? isn’t that more work? why pick something uyp twice when you can pick it up once?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

dishes only go in the sink if they have to be rinsed off, right?

otherwise there is no good reason for it

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

because I'm too lazy

to empty the clean dishes from the dishwasher?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have to be screened for weapons first.

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 28, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i need to get a dishwasher...

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one is a favorite of the Horn Section

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish Rickie Weeks was on the trade block....

He is having an awesome year….i dont know much about his defense but he can hit…he has an .871ops 22hr, 67rbi and decent speed. Thats some nice production out of a 2nd baseman.

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 3:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I had no idea Cincy is playing right now...

That Travis Wood kid looks good….theres no score in the top of the 4th but cincys threatening, 2 on 1 out…

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 3:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i like him a lot

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

was reading AmazinAvenue's wrap-up of last night's game and came across this:
Jon Niese had an interesting outing tonight. He got tons of ground balls — the majority of them finding David Wright, it seemed — but he induced just three swinging strikes all night. Hardly dominant, but just one run allowed on seven singles and two walks in six innings.

It never ceases to boggle my mind that we fall victim to the same strategy that Dave Duncan has used to tremendous effect against other teams. I guess it’s partly inevitable, but you think Dunc would peek his head out of his binder once in awhile and say…“Waitaminute…! I see what they’re doing! Take some pitches guys, and stop trying to pull every fucking pitch”

by mattyp on Jul 28, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

i think it's exactly like when a ball is hit to the pitcher and he's supposed to throw it to one of the bases to force someone out

when he overthrows it you think you’re a fuckin pitcher, you can throw a 90+ mph ball with all kinds of movement to hit a target as small as an apple, but you can’t make THAT throw?
just because you’re doing something well on one side of the equation, doesn’t mean you can defend against it well on the other

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random note

I think the mound plays a HUGE factor in pitcher’s inability to throw to bases. They are stepping down a hill and throwing at a downward angle, now they have to throw at a very different angle at a very different distance and are stepping on flat ground. I have little doubt that most pitchers would have unbelievably accurate arms for a fielder if they trained throwing from SS for example.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jul 28, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

i was by no means saying it was a justified or rational thought
just a thought

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many of those plays at 3B get by an avg 3rd baseman?

(all probably make it past Lopez)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: TLR Firing -

TLR has certainly made some poor decisions, like starting Stav and Miles on defense, keeping pitchers in too long, not keeping pitchers in long enough, etc., but I’m not sure if he’s made enough for it to be serious cause for concern that his game management is worse than other managers’. I’m as annoyed as anyone by our failure to win close games and our offense’s tendency to get shut down with ludicrous frequency, but i don’t know how much of that falls on TLR’s shoulders.
also we can’t blame him for the poor roster moves, at least not fully. he pushed hard for both Miles and (iirc) Soup on the roster, but those decisions are Mo’s to make. The only worry would be if Mozeliak is somehow subservient to TLR’s opinions when it comes to the rosters.
a lot of the blame for our underperforming has to fall on the unexpectedly-poor performances by:
boog (inconsistent defense, terrible offense); skip (poor defense, poor offense); yadi (poor offense).
some of this is luck, some of it is just they-are-who-we-thought-they-were syndrome.
another soupçon of blame should be laid on the injuries.
underperforming the pythag by 3 wins is pretty disappointing, but can be easily chalked up to just random variance.
all together i don’t think there’s really enough evidence to justify firing TLR.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Starting Stav was a roster issue

not a manager issue. When Jay was put on Stav went away.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I guess I misremembered – thought Winn was on the roster as well at the time of the first stav starts

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Underperforming our pythag is of course not the same thing as underperforming in general

I’m more concerned with underperforming based on reasonable preseason expectation, projections, and the like. A lot of that can be chalked up to injuries.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 28, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

and albert pujols being out-WAR'd by Angel Pagan at the end of July

yikes.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone worried about Albert or Colby?

Colby has been streaky all year and its hard to break a slump when your riding the bench,so he doesnt really worry me, but Albert does. Albert going 0_4 or 0_5 in a game use to be unheard of. Hes been doing it quite a bit this year. Im wondering if he is hurt or something is bothering him. I know evrrytime this gets brought up he goes on a tear but he is struggling more than ever.

Albert is 1 for his last 20
Colby is 3 for 29….and if you take away his pinch hit single vs. Phi in a blowout gamw he is 0 for 21 in his last 7 games

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 3:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Not really.

If I were the manager, I would keep starting them.

Now, when Pujols extension talks begin and numbers around $30MM start getting tossed around, then I may worry…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rasmus is prone to streakiness, especially given his relative inexperience

I’m pretty worried about ’Bert but its not really serious unless his poor performance continues for another 20ABs or so, then there might be a mechanical/injury issue to worry about

100% Sober, 40% of the time

by Aranathor on Jul 28, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

because it's populated by streaky hitters

which now includes apu.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm starting to get nervous about the .300/30/100 streak

I was hoping he would do that for at least 18 yrs

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brewers Lead Cincy 2-0 in 4th.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

lineup

Lopez 3B
Jay RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Molina C
Rasmus CF
Ryan SS
Garcia P
Skip 2B

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I like it.

I’d prefer Luddy, but whatever.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not possible...

I think a few people even hated the All-Star lineup, lol.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only way that might happen

is if he managed to somehow have 4 pujolses in the infield
3 legos in the outfield
waino and yadi
then most ppl will shut up

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope,

Because a Holliday would inevitably hit behind a Pujols, and someone would go ape-shit.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

this is the best lineup we can produce, given our current situation, other than jay for ludwick

iirc, we had a lot of nice lineups when everyone was healthy.

my perfect lineup:

lopez 2b
holliday lf
pujols 1b
ludwick rf
rasmus cf
freese 3b
molina c
boog/greene ss
pitcher

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

clobby should be batting 2nd

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

and holliday 5th?

i don’t see how that’s an improvement

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes! Yes! I Remember!!!!

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I like this lineup a lot

That’s a lot of depth up and down the lineup

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

so why the hell am i not managing this team

those guys would love to play for me. i would allow beer in the dugout

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, and TLR was a lawyer too!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

do you know any specific, offhand?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im glad Skips starting over Miles....

Id rather see him and Ryan switched though. Im ok with it I guess if Luddy needs a day if rest but I would of liked just for once all the starters that are healthy in the lineup. Its odd to give Luddy a day off vs a lefty. I hope hes ok

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 3:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

TLR finally noticed his reverse splits?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's with tg?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 28, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

wants to get the gidp out of the way early

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raztastic

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

with the two best on-base guys right in front of him, you have to think he will get plenty of gidp opportunities.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh geez, here we go again
JohnMarecek
So, now @FoleysNY and Brian Barton have something in common. They are the only 2 owners of @dgoold signed baseballs about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

 dgoold
@JohnMarecek There’s a few more than two champ. I’m no @JoeStrauss with his Tsunami and el nickname-o and cult of personality, but … 6 minutes ago via web in reply to JohnMarecek

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Didn't see this in my brief look... but an effort chart update

Joe Strauss: First base coach Dave McKay posted it about a decade ago when another Cardinals team was underachieving. It allows coaches to post red dots when a player makes a mental mistake or commits a fundamental boo-boo. (Players also receive positive mention as well.) Basically, it’s a quiet way to call out guys who aren’t getting it done. However, after watching the Cubs series, when Holliday failed to run out a dropped third strike, several others showed marginal interest in running out ground balls and tardiness occurred, one has to wonder if the “effort chart” is allowed to travel. Didn’t see it in the Wrigley clubhouse. But it’s a cute story, even after a loss.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Now he just sends them a text that says "red dot".

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now he just sends them a text that says "red dot".

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 28, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting SBN'd there.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

new bernie article

Cards are roadkill

* In his first nine seasons (2001-2009) Albert Pujols routinely ripped up road ballparks with a .333 batting average, .422 onbase percentage and a .629 slugging percentage. Pujols’ road numbers are down this season: .265 BA, .368 OBP and a .540 SLG. Other hitters dragging on the road include Ryan Ludwick (.248 BA), Brendan Ryan (.172), David Freese (.230) and Felipe Lopez (.249).

* Matt Holliday is batting .196 (9 for 46) on the road with runners in scoring position.

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

hey!

We dwindled down the complaining on holiday about batting RISP to just batting RISP on the road. That’s progress there.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 28, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's he batting

w/ RISP on the road during tuesday day games?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 28, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

against lefties with 2-5 years ML experience.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know who is gonna start friday?

Are they gonna start Suppan or move up Carp on regular rest like with Waino?

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 3:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

This

nifty little page says Carp on Saturday, TBA for Fri and Sunday. Who knows.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm excited about seeing TBA live

I’ve heard good things about him

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hear he is a grinder

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think friday is oswalt's scheduled start for houston

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp on Saturday?

Yes!

I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just fucking great....

Cincy just put up 4 runs without even recording an out in the 6th to tae the lead 4_2 & a guy on 2nd no outs

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 4:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

per Straussicorn: Macdougal up Salas down

Oh and Fuck the Reds

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

http://interact.stltoday.com/discussions/sports/joe-strauss-live/LD0723101161/all

its down a few comments

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

link fail

http://interact.stltoday.com/discussions/sports/joe-strauss-live/LD0723101161/all

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

link and reply fail

damn

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

i cannot claim I was SBN’d… I was Fredbird’d

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

who the hell is mike mcdougal?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

former closer for the Nats

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Royals.

70 career saves. Was an All-Star in 2003 w/the Royals.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didnt know that

for some reason i thought that he came up with the nats

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

well where did he come from?

when did we get him? what is he being called up for? WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He opted out of his minor-league deal with the Nationals

and we signed him a couple weeks ago.

TLR apparently didn’t like how Salas pitched last night. There looked to be quite an irritating discussion between TLR and Salas on the mound last night after the HR he allowed to Reyes.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm..

Salas: “But Suppan gives up runs in bunches.”
TLR: “Goodbye kid.”

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

I missed it while i was playing in the wierdest possible softball game ever last night

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was something along the lines of how the score was 8-1

and Salas needed to bear down and pitch because he wasn’t coming out of the game.

Tony kept looking out to the scoreboard and pointing.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

It was the last game of the season. We need either to win or not lose by more than 1 run to the team we are playing to clinch the last playoff spot for our league (they take the top 2 teams from each night and tie breakers are done by total runs scored).

We go into the bottom of the 7th up by a run (we are away) and they proceed to load the bases with 1 out and hit a sac fly to tie it. However, because they need to win by 2 or more runs, they decide to not advance bases when they hit the ball (which would win the game for them but only by 1 run) and wait for a 2+ run homerun.

So they proceed to hit 2 singles and we force them out at home on each. This continues into the extra innings (where you start each inning with a man on second and no outs) where we go up by a run and they refuse to score the winning run on anything but a homerun (which they weren’t going to hit anyways because the win was blowing in enough to knock every ball down).

Eventually they have the bases loaded again in the bottom of the 10th tied and with no out and our RCF gets pissed off. The next ball is hit to him and he runs out of bounds to force their final run in. They win by 1 but we get into the playoffs on our total runs scored throughout the season.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is an amazing story

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

so your offense went dead and couldn't add any more runs?

p.s. those rules don’t sound fun

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually it was a back and forth game

we were up like 11-10 going into the bottom of the 7th and tacked on 3 more in the following 3 innings… Actually the rules are there to try and speed up the completion of games (much the same as the rules that you start with a 1-1 count and that you only touch first base after a homerun) but yeah they take some of the fun out of it

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

You only touch first after a HR?

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah... thats really lame

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm confused

What do you mean by “you only touch first after a HR”?

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't round the bases.

Lots of leagues do it to speed up play.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohhhhhhhh duh

I thought it meant you ran from home to 2nd, to 3rd, to home, to first…

Me dumb

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus, it's frigging hard to run all the way around

wtf.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 30, 2010 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only hit about 1 a season

so even though we have the same rule, I always run them all at a Ricky Henderson pace

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume that means slow

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hit a walk off GS last year

it would have been so much better to actually do a celebratory homerun trot

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your team should have done what your RCF did in the 7th

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe he just wanted a fresh arm

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

well where did he come from?

This is a bit awkward over the internet, but here goes:

When a man and a woman love each other very much…

by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 28, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I can't wait to have that discussion with my son

I am going to be brutally honest on just about anything he asks me

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

You see, a Cincinnati Bowtie.....

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

too funny

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Formerly "Mac the Ninth."

Now, barely a threepenny reliever, though.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Oh the shark bites / With his teeth dear,"

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

brewers finally got out of that inning....frekin 5 runs

……i WISH we could score 5 runs in an inning

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 4:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

we did so twice vs. PHI this year

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

once

see sig

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on Jul 28, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I was a little bit taller

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish i was a baller

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a 6-4 impala

(or something similar to that)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: press hops

i saw something last night on e:60 about how there’s a DJ who remixes classic press conferences into a song. it’s actually pretty sweet. and catchy.

original and #2

by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 28, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

So is Nike copying him?

Or is he copying Nike?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

COW ON THE BEACH!! :=8O

Hitting Bethany Beach this weekend for 3 days of fun, sun, surf, and ummmm, turf? Not even bringing the laptop, sooooo:

LET’S GO CARDS!!!!!!!!!

will have to suffice for the weekend. if I don;t return then someone has poured water on me on the beach and rolled me back into the ocean, with all the udder whales…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 28, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

don't forget the sunscreen

unless you plan on tanning your hide! (sorry for the lamo cow joke, but I am jealous that a cow gets a vacation while a human toils away, unfulfilled)

Optimism carried too far becomes dementia.

by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

HEH

Derek Lee wishes to remain on a bad team

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jul 28, 2010 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I think that might have something to do with staying in Chicago long term

Perhaps he thinks they’ll offer him arbitration?

I have no idea why they would….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim...Hendry?

The guy that actually gave Aaron Miles a 2 year contract?

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jul 28, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is how you avoid saying

“why doesn’t anyone want a 1st baseman hitting .220?

by sdrone on Jul 28, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe his agent doesn't want the stigma of being traded for a bag of balls

on his record entering free agency.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

unicorns aside, i thought this was funny

Bob French: Is it common, or even considered, that a pitcher would request a middle infielder(s) to play behind him, as might happen with a particular catcher?
Joe Strauss: Yes, it is. Note how often Brendan Ryan starts behind Chris Carpenter. Coincidence?

carpenter loves/hates boog

link

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jul 28, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

better yet
Rik: What about Tyler Green, Blake Hawksworth and Allen Craig for Edwin Jackson and Stephen Drew???

ahaha
and then strauss actually gets a brownie point in my book with the reply

Joe Strauss: That meth is bad stuff.

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because jokes about meth are funny.

Probably should have just gone with a hallucinogen joke there.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 28, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

stauss seems to only take questions that have some weird address to him personally

check this shit out, he was addressed as:

“Wave Rider”
“Sir”
“JSL (bringing the Heat Wave)”
“ChatMeister”
“Great One” <——-baaaaaahahahaha
“Wavemaster J”
“Jose”
“Great Surfmeister of the Mississippi”
“Mighty Joe”
“JoeAlmighty”
“Big Kahuna”

i wonder if he’d take one that starts with “hey douche, …”

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know that we were swept at home by the Astros

but it must really really really suck to be a Cubs fan. They basically have a .500 record against everybody but the Pirates and the astros (who are whipping their asses again today).

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Austin Wilson nugget, Unicorn disclaimer...
Greg: What are the chances Austin Wilson ends up signing?

Joe Strauss: Still less than 50-50. But the fact I’m even discussing it is reason for optimism within the Cardinals front office. Initially they thought it likely a token pick. Wilson really enjoyed his visit to St. Louis. Apparently his family did as well. Intriguing.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Sickels said 50/50, Seiler says negligible.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's a complete idiot if he doesn't sign.

period.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 30, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Phillips grand slam....9_2 reds....

God I hate the reds. I wish they would just loose 5 or 6 games in a row and go away
…now I just heard on the radio Jocketty is considering trading Chapman for Oswalt

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

booooring

boring
boring boring
wtf reds
boring
aaargh

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Less than 2 hours to game time!! Woo!! (too soon for a game-thread?)

In other news: can ‘Berto bust out of the funk against Johan? (i f’in love the name Johan; Santana, Cryuff… its like the name was purpose-built for awesome sporting persons)

Last 5 years: Pujols: 6-12 w/ 2 HRs against the lefty

100% Sober, 40% of the time

by Aranathor on Jul 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

even more awesome when the moonman calls him Joe-Han

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ken Rosenthal Tweets
#Cardinals showing interest in #Orioles’ Tejada. Unclear if a match is possible. #MLB

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 28, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

No match, no match!

Someone take Bruce Vilanch in the center square for the block!

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Look out Bruce Vilanch there are super humans fighting up there."

And I don’t think that was Bruce Vilanch on Hollywood Squares. It was Louis something.

Onubon > Gates

by Carneros on Jul 28, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it was Bruce

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I heard this rumor a few weeks ago....

The only reason I could see them doing that is if freese is gonna be out a while….

Personally I think its garbage either way. Tony lobbying for another washed up vet. But hey, if he costs us nothing and takes Miles spot I could deal with it

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 5:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Does that mean Freese's injury is worse than previously thought?

Tejada can’t play middle infield anymore can he?

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, he's strictly third

but he has a rep for his enthusiasm being infectious – that, coupled with what we don’t know about freeze, and i believe this rumor

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

so how come he isn't the PTBNL for Lugo???

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

so how come he isn't the PTBNL for Lugo???

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

SBN'd?

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 28, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

what? where did this come from?

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unicorn'd.
David Baker: Pujols and Greene for Johnson and Uggla?

Joe Strauss: Interesting comment. It’s not going to happen, but Pujols has listed the Marlins as one of the six teams to which he would accept a trade.

by Ghostrider520 on Jul 28, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

just in case

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

reply fail - just in case

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 28, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

albert f. pujols does not

wait
never mind

be the trouble you want to see in the world.
never forget

by il rosso on Jul 28, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no...keep going.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would take any baseball player ever in a trade for Stav, Miles, and Schu

Yuniesky Betancourt? Sign me up.

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it would be like consolidating crapness

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we talk them into Winn

instead of Schu? (we do have more OFs than IFs ready at Memphis).

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 28, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit...lost the body of that comment somehow...

In Cardinal players, maybe someone like Lynn or Kopp (who’s stock is up a bit I’d imagine) or maybe McClellan and Trey Hearne or someone like that.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 28, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cardinals website actually has an article stating how the rotation will play out

Hawk tomorrow
Carp Friday
Suppan Saturday
Waino Sunday
Garcia Monday

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 5:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Splitting up Hawk + Suppan is nice

No more consecutive depressing games of suckitude from starters.

by mojowo11 on Jul 28, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well unfortunately for me all the shuffling

Still leaves me with the same Hawksworth v. Bud Norris matchup tuesday for Champions Club tickets no less…..

But thank god theyre starting Carp friday wheb I go, I woulda been pretty pissed to draw a suppan/hawk combo…all this us assuming they dont add a pitcher. Im thinking they may have pushed back Suppans start bc they expect to possibly have anorher pitcher by then.

by mick311 on Jul 28, 2010 5:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sounds familiar

I hate Champion’s Club tickets back in June. My matchup was Suppan v. Cahill. It was nice seeing one of whom I believe to be a future star pitcher in Cahill. However, the rest of the game was pretty mediocre.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 28, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeeeey

i finally get to see jaime day happen live!!
for $10

by d-dee on Jul 28, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck me

i gotta get out of going to that game saturday

I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch

by mattyfrommo on Jul 28, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope this is right for my viewing sake

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

did the reds suffer a soul crushing comeback defeat?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 28, 2010 6:03 PM EDT reply actions  

that game against atlanta, if you remember it

but they bounced right back, so i don’t know that it was soul-crushing.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing everyone missed Joe Posnanski on Bernie's show?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Swapping MacDougal for Salas is dumb.

dumb dumb dumb.

CHONE projections MacDougal: 4.50 ERA
CHONE projections Salas: 4.20 ERA

This is exactly the kind of stupid shit that makes people believe someone would rather have a veteran than a young player. This team is going to lose the division because they continue to throw away runs on the margins. Playing Aaron Miles, not playing Colby, playing Nick Stavinoha over Craig, and now MacDougal over Salas. We’re a tight race and they’re pissing away wins. Death by a thousand paper cuts.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jul 28, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

the whole part where TLR walked up to the mound and upbraided him in front of the Citi crowd probably had something to do with it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was unbecoming from Tony who wants to use these young relievers as

mop up types in bad situations. He acted like an ass. That said, this needs to be a baseball decision not a personality one. The Cardinals are making too many of the former this season to their detriment.

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jul 28, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

mhm

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 28, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what happened?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jul 28, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

loaded bases, and Dunc didn't go up there

Tony went up there. I couldn’t tell if it was in Spanish or not, but he pointed at the scoreboard and went on for a bit, infielders and LaRue watching.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's terrible

Add that to the TLR hates rookies pile of evidence

by OCCardsFan on Jul 28, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair, salas kept looking to the dugout

as if he wanted to be taken out.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's also like tony going

hey, look, I was right, we should have signed tejada, now bring him to me

chief justice

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 28, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you think he will cost?

i think just money, basically.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 28, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the ultimate crafty veteran

Dude’s like 65 but everyone thinks he’s 30-something

"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles

by jd is legend on Jul 28, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know anything about the Dugout bar?

apparently the tickets I lucked into for Friday give me access to the dugout bar

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I believe I found it the day after I had access to it....

one on the first and third base sides, just at the end of the lettered rows, before the numbers start. Diamond box has access to it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe I found it the day after I had access to it....

one on the first and third base sides, just at the end of the lettered rows, before the numbers start. Diamond box has access to it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 28, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get the tickets tomorrow, so I'll finally know what section exactly

I’m hoping 1B side

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even want to know where that Aaron Miles interview went.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

so there's... Matt Holliday

he adjusts his hat which is of course too small…
then he yawns.
which increases the size even more. visually reminded of certain nature shows.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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