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This Week Around Viva El Birdos: July 19-24

I'm just beginning my yearly trip outside the bounds of the internet, so this is a day early, but it's time for volume two of This Week Around Viva El Birdos. (Subtitle: If you aren't following the fanposts and SB Nation St. Louis as closely as you should be, it is relatively easy to catch up with it here, but stop doing that.) 

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This week's feature about the Cardinals was written by Alex Fritz, who took time off from his busy schedule at the fore of the Roy Oswalt beat to write a piece wondering about Jaime Garcia's case in particular and the seemingly increased whiteness in the stands at Busch Stadium in general:

Here is my problem: The last time a Mexican rookie pitcher had these kind of numbers four months into the season (let alone two) his local Latino community had damn near knighted him. Granted, that was Fernando Valenzula, and he took not just Los Angeles but the entitre country by storm, but I honestly feel that by now the Saint Louis Latino community should be having weekly parades down Cherokee Street in Kid Garcia's honor.

So where, in the burgeoning Saint Louis Latino community, is the disconnect? Maybe I have been disillusioned by reading too many Roberto Clemente books this summer, and wish the bodegas still swung to the rhythm of Spanish speaking announcers calling ball games while men wearing awesome hats did whatever they damn-well needed to do, but has the Latino community in not just Saint Louis, but most of America, stopped following American professional baseball the way the African-Amercian community stopped following a generation ago?

Here's what I like about his writing: at his most thoughtful he is still inclined to include the word Mexcellent in a headline. This week on The Sports of St. Louis, the only blog on the internet with my face on it, we talked about Walt Jocketty's Jason Isringhausen crush; the Globe-Democrat's sports staff walkoutChris Carpenter's tattoo; and whether it's true that men 25-54 think AM radio is totally weak, bro. Among other things. 

Fanposts

VEB alumni watch: chuckb, the masked man who appeared in town from parts unknown after houstoncardinal had to return to his home planet, put together a great fanpost about Roy Oswalt's value relative to Shelby Miller's. On Friday fanpost veteran bgh checked Dan Haren's supposed history of late-season fades against his xFIP, and Thursday BVHeck delivered a very pleasant winning streak post-mortem. Choice fact: "Oh and speaking of striking out, Albert didn't strike out once that whole Streak! Viva El Mang!"

ap5mvp's first fanpost, about Roy Oswalt, is perhaps most notable for debuting "fatty" is a possible (and presumably affectionate) nickname for Albert Pujols. On July 21 Dave Pendleton, in what might be a VEB first, took a dispassionate, undecided look at Aaron Miles

And I'd be remiss if I didn't note that azruavatar, SB Nation's only robotic moderator, did not like Inception. I still haven't seen the movie, so I can't confirm that his purportedly spoiler-filled review is not actually just a profanity-laden screed about how much I suck. 

But if that's the case he has hell to pay when it finally gets to the dollar theaters, God as my witness. 

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booooooooooooooooooooog.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 24, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm on a boat!

Same boat as you that is. Which the whole Inception thing.

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 24, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

do we have a bullpen update, by the way?

I saw a person who was supposedly Kyle McClellan yesterday wearing an elaborate towel headdress. except he looked so much like Franklin, I wasn’t sure….

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 24, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Az did, however, like Up In The Air

one of my favorite movies this millennium, and one that I thought for sure he would hate.

The robot just keeps us guessing!

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jul 24, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

hey, danup

any way that we can track what we specifically voted in the fan confidence poll? maybe even all registered members? i think it would be a cool feature to be able to look at just how fickle we all are. we could also see who has the most/least confidence in the team on average and who is the most fickle, etc. think it’d be cool

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 24, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

that's an interesting idea.

there’s no way to do it now—not on my end, at least—but I’ll pass that to the people who maintain it.

by DanUpBaby on Jul 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm listening to Astros/Cubs

Votto has already taken Oswalt deep.

Phillips field out
Cabrera singled.
Votto homered
Nix doubled
Bruce grounded out
Stubbs struck out

Cincy is up 2-0.

They say Oswalt has allowed the most homers of any of the pitchers.
meh. do we want more pitching like this? May it was just a rough first inning.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 24, 2010 7:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Oswalt through 4 IP:

8 H and 6 ER.

Rough start.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 24, 2010 8:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

May be a blessing

who knows but it would seem to have to drive the price down. I trust Duncan and surely he is advising on this issue.

by Warcard on Jul 24, 2010 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

You know that's exactly what I was thinking

Maybe he’s actually doing it on purpose. SURE
Hernandez homered in the second inning. Cincy up 3-0

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 24, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: ASG radar gun is juiced

price just hit 99 according to the FSN gun

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter

by prophetjohn on Jul 24, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Oswalt

the guy is good, but he hasnt been what he was for some time now. I think Wandy is their true man..i havent looked at this years stats, but living in Htown last yr it seems Roy O was not the number one. Id still make the trade, but wouldnt sell the farm

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Jul 24, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

how do we

a. get uncle roy
b. pa fort luddy
c. re-up apu
???

seems impossible to me, so taking roy, even for nothing, costs us luddy and/or apu

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Jul 24, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

oswalt doesn't necessarily cost us luddy

perhaps the org had already made a decision on not keeping luddy, which is why they are even considering oswalt’s salary being feasible. and they are not making a move for anybody if it will cost them apu.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 24, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cincy up 6-0

Oswalt at 58 pitches through 4 innings. The 4th inning is the only one where Cincy has not scored.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 24, 2010 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

High Second Place

Have you missed us. How have you been doing???

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 24, 2010 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

oops so upset I can't think * Hi Second Place

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 24, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

perhaps his ankle is bothering him still

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 24, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

so normally MLB puts up 10 videos per game.

today there are 9 videos, including the recap.

not one is of Brendan Ryan.

there are no highlights of Brendan Ryan from this game.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 24, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Ubaldo has now officially fully regressed

good lord. 2 IP, 2 K’s, 2 triples, 6 BB, and 6 ER today. ERA up to 2.75.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Jul 24, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

he’s out to prove the gambler’s fallacy is no fallacy.

St. Louis Cardinals -- 2006 World Champions

by greenback06 on Jul 24, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Three game losing streaks

really kill the buzz from eight game winning streaks.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Jul 24, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

once the main post hit game thread

looks like it got a bit outta hand

I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch

by mattyfrommo on Jul 24, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Official - Colby doesn't like Summer

since June 21 Colby’s line is .247/.277/.404/.681 (111 PAs)
for Summer 2009 the line is .236/.294/.377/.667 (250 PAs)
Damn glad the post season is played in the Fall

by ubeddie on Jul 25, 2010 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

guess he loses weight when the summer hits

he’s young, and could still get used to the long grind.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe that's why Tony sits him ...

He’s trying to save his legs for the season and hopefully the post season.

Colby needs to start eating with Reyes every meal. That will help pack on the pounds.

You fit into me
like a hook into an eye

a fish hook
an open eye

by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it would be the opposite...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Garcia and IP

Jaime is up to 110 IP this year and if he stays on schedule would start 12 more times this season. Using his 5 2/3 ave IP/start, Garcia would be up to 178 IP at season’s end.

The Cards have five off days between July 26 and August 19, then play 43 games in 45 days to finish the season. By rearranging the rotation over the next 25 days, the Cards could skip two of Garcia’s scheduled starts, thereby reducing his IP total. The downside is that skipping Jaime would mean less rest for Carp or Waino and an extra start by Suppan and Waino in that period.

I for one would use take advantage of the schedule to rest Jaime.

by ubeddie on Jul 25, 2010 1:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Yesterday,

I read on either the P-D or the mothership that Waino was going to pitch Tuesday (thus skipping Jaime) but during today’s telecast FSM listed Garcia as the pitcher for Tuesday. With the number of off days upcoming between now and mid-August, I would be in support of Jaime skipping a start or two, especially if, after next week, it appears that Lohse will, indeed, be back in early Aug.

by ArkansasTravs on Jul 25, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be surprised if they went over 160 innings with him

not counting the post-season. this is just one more reason we need another starter – not saying it has to be oswalt or someone of that quality, but it has to be better than soup or hawk

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't comment on here a lot

Mostly because I’m a baseball history nut as opposed to a stats guy (so I would just sound stupid), but I absolutely love the writers and community here. GO CARDS!

St. Louis Cardinals and Indy Colts fan. Avid fan of the Springfield Cardinals, the Cards' AA team!

by Sir Sci on Jul 25, 2010 1:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Just an FYI

There will be a post tommorrow, but it probably won’t come until the afternoon.

Your robotic friend,
AZ

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jul 25, 2010 3:10 AM EDT reply actions  

So...

Let me get this straight, this guy is saying the Cardinals (or St. Louis or someone) is racist, because thousands of Hispanics aren’t at Cardinals games, like they turned out for Fernando in Los Angeles?

Uh, sure, it has nothing at all to do with the fact that St. Louis doesn’t have many Hispanics (2%) while Los Angeles has about half (48%).

by DiscoJer on Jul 25, 2010 4:38 AM EDT reply actions  

ummm....

methinks you missed his point

Sign Austin Wilson!

by nmstar on Jul 25, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure where I called anyone racist.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jul 25, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Don't think the Reds are worried about us getting Oswalt

after they gave him a whipping last night. I wonder what the scouts will tell Mo after last night’s game? Um….yeah…maybe we should re-think this.

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Jul 25, 2010 4:51 AM EDT reply actions  

i doubt they'll put too much stock in one game

oswalt doesn’t have much to prove.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

judging Oswalt’s ability after that start would be like judging Carp after his bad start before the ASG. I don’t think it will cause any GM to write off the last several years of very good to dominant pitching by Oswalt.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 25, 2010 3:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Congratulations to Whitey on his big day!!!!


And also to “The Hawk”

Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon

by KYCards on Jul 25, 2010 5:14 AM EDT reply actions  

fondest memory

..serving Whitey chicken at the end of a buffet line.

by martimeryard on Jul 25, 2010 7:59 AM EDT reply actions  

oh Jimmy.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/99183534.html

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Why doesn't he just...

DH or PH with very light fielding duties? Dude can still rake… He’d be an asset on any team in baseball.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Jul 25, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

the injuries may be getting to him

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right...

but if he didn’t play the field, he had have fewer it would seem. He would be worth 2 wins to half the teams in the AL playing DH.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Jul 25, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Edmonds is the best

He can do it however he wants. I wish it had been in St. Louis this year.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 25, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but where would he get playing time?

this team has more outfielders than it knows what to do with and many of them are young.

babip giveth... and babip taketh away

by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

not saying it would be logical.

I just remember how he “willed” the Cards WS win in 2006. Wish we had some of that now.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 25, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

can anyone explain the context of this?

http://twitter.com/JohnMarecek/status/19504573336

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

while spinning?

this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.

by Evilfrog on Jul 25, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

I can’t parse the English either.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Little early to be drinking, John.

But after the last few games, not unexpected.

I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?

by The Continental on Jul 25, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh good

I thought it was me.

…guess that means moar alcohol?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

morgan and miller are in cooperstown

anybody know who’s doing the game tonite?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

hfs

this might be a good game to watch

I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch

by mattyfrommo on Jul 25, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's right this is a night game.

This is going to throw off my whole Sunday routine. Meh.

I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?

by The Continental on Jul 25, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oswalt

Originally I was against the trade for Roy, thinking we did not have the prospect depth + payroll to be able to acquire him. However, after sleeping on it and re-looking at the standings, I think the Cards have to acquire him. We are currently a half game behind the Reds and a game behind the Giants for the WC. Now I think the Reds are going to fade or the Cards will pull away but there is a chance that might not happen. Frankly, I dont think the Cards can take that chance. We cannot miss the playoffs this year. The King only has so many opportunities left and this cannot be a wasted year. Oswalt will increase the chances of us making the playoffs. I just think this is a deal that has to get done especially if Shelby is not involved.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Jul 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

if shelby isn't involved it's a no-brainer, imo

i really don’t want to see us blowing up jaime because we’re in a dogfight down the stretch. the kid pitched what, 30 innings last year? of course we could sit tight and count on penny and/or lohse, but then the deadline passes and we’d be dependent on a waiver transaction in the event at least one of them didn’t come through.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Westbrook!!!!

seriously when you put a guy like suppan on the mound it makes the need for a pitcher more pressing, but let’s not forget suppan sucks and is a below average pitcher. There’s a reason the brewers dropped him from their already crappy rotation and replaced him. Let’s look at the things westbrook gives us that oswalt won’t.

  • secures payroll
  • cheap in terms of prospects(kmac+samuels+salas)
  • will give Mo the chance for MIF help instead of one big acquisition.
  • isn’t overpaid/won’t be overpaid past this season
  • Shelby Miller(I’m almost 100% sure that the deal won’t go through without him as much as I hate it, I mean the astros want Matt Kemp an already proven 5 WAR CF!!!)
  • Umm kyle lohse is probably going to be back and however uncertain I am about Penny if he comes back that’s already a good playoff rotation(hell the playoffs are a crap shoot people)

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did some yardwork and am eating a sandwich with colby cheese.

I can’t do much more.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

oh and there's bacon.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can only do so much

that’s why the yardwork.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Such a team player you are.

Go throw some bb’s? Smoke perhaps? Raking perhaps?

I’m done now. I’m getting paid to watch TV and sit in air conditioning and I still hate it. I’m such a spoiled employee….

by pbg222 on Jul 25, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

appreciate

i appreciate the love DanUp. “Fatty” is pretty fun, hope all will use in the future!

by ap5mvp on Jul 25, 2010 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I do not care for your tone, Mr. Rains.

http://twitter.com/BJRains/status/19512218756

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

who is he?

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the suit Whitey has on below

…is the suit to which Rains is tweeting about, it doesn’t look like it’s pinstriped.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 25, 2010 3:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Whitey and Froemming


album

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

gross

Birdos were in the small offending category..Dont go to FL though

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=100725/stadiumconcessions

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

At least ScottTrade is clean.

Lessons- Don’t get sushi at the ballpark, and for the love of god, bring your own food in Florida.

I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?

by The Continental on Jul 25, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Chicago so ass-backwards

that while everyone else is doing Sunday matinees, they finally decide to do a night game?

babip giveth... and babip taketh away

by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

FESPN

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnny Bench

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Is he working on his stand-up routine?

I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?

by The Continental on Jul 25, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was very funny

He did a Harry Carry bit.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 25, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you sure that's not elton john?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

@B_Walton

#stlcards sign 9th-round draft pick, LHP Tyler Lyons from Oklahoma State and assign him to Batavia of the NY-Penn League. 39th signee

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

from FR

Baseball America:

    After leading USA Baseball’s college team with a 0.00 ERA in 2008, lefthander Tyler Lyons had a chance to go in the first round of the 2009 draft. His stuff was down for most of his junior season, picked back up in the NCAA playoffs and the Cape Cod League, but dipped again this spring. Lyons pitched at 87-90 mph as a sophomore and added velocity coming out of the Team USA bullpen, but now he rarely tops 88. His curveball also has regressed, leaving his changeup as his best pitch. He still throws strikes, but he got pounded to the tune of a 3-6, 6.06 record this spring. The 6-foot-2, 207-pounder now projects as a middle reliever, though moving back to the bullpen could restore zip to this fastball. Though he had a good summer on the Cape last year, the Yankees didn’t make him an offer after drafting him in the 10th round.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

google image search includes some fine musical numbers

I’m thinking not the same guy.


Remarkably, his pitching-face ain’t too bad.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

we’re started on the Carp/Waino/Garcia part of the rotation again, so we’ve got until the end of that to make a move.

babip giveth... and babip taketh away

by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just some pogs.

"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon

by Alxfritz on Jul 25, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think they need to make 2 deals

as do most people, but havent heard them mentioned on a MIF just SP…I dont have suggestions to who, but if they could land a decent SP who can go 6 every time out and a decent MIF to replace boog or skippy..

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

MIF I see available

Peralta
Cantu
Uggla
Guzman
Johnson
Lopez

I am the Batman .
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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drew, hopefully

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by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and of course drew.

Jose Lopez would probably be cheap also, of course he can’t get a walk to save his life.

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

brian roberts has just been activated

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

For Wigginton

“playing” 2b is such a loose term. He’s a butcher in every sense of the word, and has cooled down considerably since the beginning of the season.

Might as well acquire Uggla at that point, who I wouldn’t mind if it doesn’t cost Shelby.

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-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jul 25, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should pull off a blockbuster deal for Drew and Haren...

But, we have no prospects or if we did the deal afterwards we would have zero prospects.

But maybe ryan, jay, miller, anderson, lynn for drew and miller? or more?

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by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

oh…i’m assuming we don’t get Oswalt. The news looks that way.

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by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you just said
maybe ryan, jay, miller, anderson, lynn for drew and miller?

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh...

Duh..

meant Oswalt. Guess I should focus more eh?

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by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

you meant haren, no?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 25, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn it!

yes…Haren. I’m benching myself till the game. Going for a run to clear the cobwebs.

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by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wandy Rodriguez

six innings of one hit ball against Cinci.
Maybe we could get him at a discount?

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by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

he's their true #1

young, good, streaky though

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right

listed as 31, i think its his face…

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by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's the fact that he's finally emerging as a useful starter

I mean he was probably a #4 starter at best before I heard of him.

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

last yr was a good yr for him

and hes always been kinda streaky..one of those could be good guys that seems to fail to put it together…id take him if it were cheap but i think they want to shed Roy os money..then with roy gone, hed be #1…

also they should maybe look into myers?

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by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Wade is asking way too much for any of his pitchers availbble

but yeah if anyone on their staff met our needs,it would be Myers.

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ed Wade needs to understand that his team sucks and it isn't getting better

and will not do so unless he can bite the bullet and turn some old players and huge contracts into cheap, young players.

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by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

...Ed Wade.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

“and for Oswalt and his expensive contract I expect the player in return to be Matt Kemp”

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bernie called it...

the only problem trading with the Astros is they are stupid.

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by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

that really calls for its own lolcat.

I’m sure someone wittier than me can come up with a good one…

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by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

An ed wade lol cat on the phone w glasses

saying…

 Iz in your farm system stealin yourz AAAA players?

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by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

How bout an LOL Walrus?

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by Red Blazer on Jul 25, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

iirc?

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by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC= If I recall correctly

it’s the Internet’s lazy way of saying I’m not checking to see if this is right but I’m going to say it anyways.

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

When he was scouted by the Astros in 1998, Rodriguez pretended his name was Eny Cabreja and that he was 17 years old. He had convinced a friend to let him borrow his identity. The real Cabreja was born on August 18, 1981 while Wandy was born on August 18, 1979. Wandy lived under the name Eny Cabreja until 2002, when he admitted to the Astros that he was really Wandy Wulton Rodriguez and that he wasn’t really 21 but 23.

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by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

happen too often

I found it funny when someone’s favorite prospect "grabriel sanchez/hernandez?’ I think. who was thought to be 17 was like 22 so his awesome season as a teenage was “meh he’s a grown man.”

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breaking News!!!!

Oscar taveras turns out to be 27, he wonders why others haven’t caught on sooner with his ability to grow a full beard in mere hours and always smelling like scotch.

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they get a decent bat, or SP what happens?

Hawk back to the pen, what with soup?

if they get a MIF what happens..

Guys they have
-skip
-boog
-miles
-tgreen
-Freeze(dl)
-Lopez

if none of them are moved in a deal and u get a guy who can hit to replace Boog full time, or Skip then what?

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by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Shorey released.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

he tussled with Strauss earlier

I think he might mean it ironically. ironically.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

did they say why?

making room for???

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 25, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

voted off the island

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lyons

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by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Batavia.

per Walton.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, but via promotions

which amount to Lyons in, Shorey out

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by purple_haze on Jul 25, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that seems like a long shot?

but with more signings, it could be someone else.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

'e's got the article up, but it's subscriber-only

someone can find out.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh, house hunters went to STL

the city, not like the previous one that was all over the area.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:08 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah Astros

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 25, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Andre Dawson said a version of this 3 times in his speech.

If you love this game, the game will love you back.

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 25, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Back from work.

Writing commencing. . .

Silly humans, this world is for robots.

by azruavatar on Jul 25, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Houston beat Cincinnati 4-0.

We could reclaim first place tonight.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jul 25, 2010 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

but will someone get luggaged, that's what I want to know.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 25, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the nats are rumored to be trading matt capps?

I could’ve never predicted this, great reporting buster olney.

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by CodyG on Jul 25, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

-buster olney

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by punchinjudy on Jul 25, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would be interested in knowing how to

Have a USB Disk with Portable Firefox that can use Flash and Silverlight(MLB.tv) even if it is not loaded on the computer itself. I know a lot of computers don’t have flash installed or silverlight. Especially public computers. I am still working on the details. I got flash to work and sort got Silverlight to work. Can watch MLB.tv but not netflix streaming yet. Still need to be able to get around blackout restrictions.

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 25, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope lee smith ends up making it into the hall of fame. He is always the first guy that comes to mind when I think of dominant closer. If gossage is in the hof lee smith should be a shoe in

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 25, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought sutter was better than smith

but fingers – iirc he won an mvp. smith did pitch a long time though.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 26, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

not only did he pitch a long time

his career ERA is 3.03, his career FIP is 2.93

his career K/9 is 8.79 (peaking at 12.23 one season!)

career LOB% is 76.7%

478 career saves

imo, this is better than Gossage. I’d say it’s a tossup between Sutter and Smith

Sutter’s stats: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1012743&position=P

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 26, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

New thread is up

Come and Play

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