Game 96: Overflow Thread
by azruavatar on Jul 22, 2010 5:04 PM EDT
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PrintMotte and Boggs both with 2 inning efforts. Remember this the next time we're told we need a long reliever.
Aaron Miles 0-for-4 out of the leadoff spot. Try to forget this.
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LA game 3 remix?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Um, game 4 you mean?
er, I hope.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
oh yeah, that one
it’s the heat
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Seems to happen often when you switch pitchers in the middle of an AB.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
What the hell happened to our loogys?
cant get ANY lefty out…
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Now they are hackers
Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.
by Whiteyballer on Jul 22, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
our loogys haven't loogied in a while
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 22, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
Lefties
So both of our lefties faced Ryan Howard today and neither of them got him out. I can’t think that is at all a good sign.
that sign has been neon for awhile now, it seems
probably getting a few good, hard looks at maclane here and there, just in case.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Man I would be pretty pissed
if I sat there in the sun and stuck around for this debacle.
And now you’re taking out Holliday?
Boggs/Motte great
LOOGYs not so great
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
if the cards score
but only tie in the bottom half, i will flip
i will be done watching the game
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
in other words,
this is the last inning i’m watching regardless
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
Come on salas
lets get another 99.99
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I just realized how much of an asshole I would be If I was the manager
The way I feel right now I would have walked out to the mound and said: “Give me the fucking ball and get the fuck out of my face”
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 5:12 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Now the phillies have scored more runs than we have total hits in 10 innings
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Stark tweet
jaysonst (Jayson Stark)
Pitching for the Phillies used to be a good job. Not now. Cole Hamels has faced 167 hitters since he last thew a pitch w more than 1-R lead.
1 minute ago from web
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
This is ridiculous.
0 runs in 10 innings, probably nothing in 11 innings.
If you give a man a fish and he'll stink up the whole town. However, give a man a fishing rod and he'll poke your eye out.
if we're gonna lose in the 11th, can it be by less than 5 runs please?
this is a little embarrassing
the 1 hit through 10 innings already cemented that
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
We could be like the Rays
and get no-hit 3 times in 2 years.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Silver lining has dulled.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
As long as the rear-end of our pitching staff doesn't suck in Chicago.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 22, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
At least they're going against the cubs rear end too
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Even though the rest of the game has not gone our way
I just have a feeling that the unlikely lineup of Jay, Molina, Boog, Winn, Lopez might just get it done
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
It IS just 2 runs...
I just don’t like our ABs today. During this little stretch of winning, you’d definitely be optimistic but man, we’ve looked wiped out today.
Still, I hope you’re on to something.
My worry is that we've run off this string of victories and then we go and lose 4 of 6 or something.
nananananananana
My fingers are stuck in my ears and my eyes are shut
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
I think I could watch that 2005 NLCS HR every day for the rest of my life
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
that and the Waino-Beltran K. i had a couple weeks where i actually watched that waino K every time
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
He's shoveling the ball to the plate!
With a shoveling motion!
Shit, imagine how good Lidge would be if he was lefty and could get movement on his pitches.
All Rise
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
hung jury
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
skip pinch hit for boog, moves to 2B, Miles moves to 3B, Flopex moves to SS?
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
And how will they do that?
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Hi Mr. Lidge
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ok no DP
schumaker???
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
Good question.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Way to go up there and hack at the first pitch you see Skip
after sitting on the bench all game knowing that we have 1 hit
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
The only disappointing thing about this game for me.
Is we saw such a great improvement in the Cards batting patiently, working walks, working the opposing pitcher. And then this game has just been chop-chop-chop.
I want a WINN
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Streak over
:’(
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Ok, Cole Hamels pitched great today.
I don’t guess Philly would want to trade him.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
Hopefully, the angry, pissed off Cardinals offense shows up tomorrow
and rattles off 7 straight hits against Randy Wells this time.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
I second that.
Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.
by Whiteyballer on Jul 22, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Miles: .327 .358 .367 despite a .363 BABIP
A .300 BABIP (which is generous for how crappy he hits the ball) and it’s .270/.300/.310
Not afraid to nitpick
"We're trying to be the Miami Heat, I guess."
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in other stuff.
- For his career, opponents now slugging .527 against McClellan with a tie score. 28 minutes ago via web
- In ALL OTHER GAMES, opponents slug .313 against McClellan. Staggering. #stlcards 27 minutes ago via web
- In one-run games, Cards ahead or behind, opponents are slugging .364 against him. So it’s not just a matter of close game vs. blowout. 26 minutes ago via web
- Leach twitter
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Okay, and what's his point?
I like Leach and all, but this is just a statistical anomaly. It means nothing. Undoubtedly, TLR will never again bring K-Mac into a tie game.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
that's what people do with baseball
point out statistical anomalies. Just tidbits they find interesting.
this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.
what evilfrog said
it’s his schtick. his blog is full of the oddities, and he labels them as such.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
OT question
Does anyone here play any baseball simulation games? Used to play Strat-O-Matic as a kid and am thinking about picking up something to play online, but am completely out of the loop as to what is out there. What’s crap and what’s not, etc. I know Strat-O-Matic has an online version but I don’t know much about it, and don’t know if there is anything better.
I believe Danup does,
but I can’t recall the name of it. Baseball mogul maybe?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think I've read a mention of it from him
I just googled it and it looks interesting.
by Merry CRasmus on Jul 22, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
baseball mogul is great
it’s less in-depth than Out of the Park, the other popular one, but the interface is more intuitive. Basically, if you’d like to sim a day at a time, deal with the 40-man, play the rule 5 draft, you’ll probably prefer OOTP; if you want to build up a dynasty and sim a week or a month or years at a time, Baseball Mogul is the best.
Each of them has a demo, so I’d check them both out.
Oh my gosh
why have i never heard of this? Apparently i was born just a couple years too late. That sounds really fun
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
this is going in the folder of
next time I get a big tip from work
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
to really enjoy BM though
you have to make “integrity rules”, like “no fair trading 7 scrubs for chase utley”, and “no fair trading an ace pitcher who is on the DL for 279 days who is in the last year of his contract for prospects”, and “management of minor leaguers should be done IAW the MLB rules and not what BM lets you get away with”.
Otherwise it’s pretty easy to build a team that wins 100+ games, year aftert year after year.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Thanks
I’m thinking the faster pace might keep me more engaged, at least initially, so maybe Baseball Mogul is the way to go. Will check them both out though – appreciate it.
I gather you’re making contract decisions with your roster, making and taking trade offers from other organizations in the sim, right? If so, I’m assuming you are pretty pleased with how realistic it all feels to you? We’re not talking about an X-Box level here, where you could offer 3 pieces of garbage to land a younger all-star, etc?
by Merry CRasmus on Jul 22, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
it's gotten harder since mogul 2003, which was my first version
but there’s still a certain level of self-control required in trades, because the AI isn’t perfect.
My Uncle plays strat-o-matic
Ge used to have the dice and paper and everything and now he does it on the computer. He loves it. I would never have the time
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 22, 2010 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure I'll have the time either
Things seem to have settled down a bit lately though, so I’ve been thinking about giving something a shot and see how it goes.
by Merry CRasmus on Jul 22, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i've never heard of this
is this like rolling dice to predict the outcome of a baseball game or something?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
wow--just spent an hour of my life reading the AM thread
you guys had 990 comments when i cracked open my lunch. my crappy ass work computer crashed when i tried to load the thread. it was depressing.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
So was the game
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 22, 2010 6:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That was all pretty much before noon your time.
VEBsplosion. Did you hear the Cards might be after Roy Oswalt?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
REALLY?
but, yeah. i started my lunch at 12:15 and say 975 comments and just went WTF? you guys aren’t allowed to do that anymore. i like to be able to read the thread on my lunch and i wasn’t able to today. it ruined my lunch.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
There were aboot 100
when I logged on @ 730 my time. It’s usually about 15 or so. I thought something had actually happened. I can’t wait for August 1st, so all of this trade guess crap will end.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
also, the thread went up last night so that had a little to do with the high amount
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Hey people.
I have an extra ticket to the game tomorrow. If you want it email me and it’s yours.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
fuck!
a free ticket to a cardinals/cubs game? it just had to be in chicago.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't seen mention of this
in today’s 2500 comments, but MiLB implemented HGH testing.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
they did, they just spelled it in all caps
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The Strange Courtship of Roy Oswalt
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The Strange Courtship of Roy Oswalt
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wtf sbn, I never said you could post the second one.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
any word on if Luddy will play tomorrow or this weekend?
He loves hitting at Wrigley and I’d love to see him back. I think we will bounce back with some offense tomorrow…hopefulluy we get to randy wells like last time…no way we get 2 straight good starts from sup so were gona need some runs
by mick311 on Jul 22, 2010 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
should be back tomorrow
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
gulp
just got home and checked the score.
I was looking forward to watching the re-play on archive, but, uh, only one hit??
maybe not. poop!
Twins inquiring about Oswalt. But then, every GM in baseball has probably contacted Wade to see what the asking price might be.
Also, the guys at Crawfish Boxes basically want Shelby Miller, every player under 25 on the Cards, every player in the Cards farm system, and all of their families.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 22, 2010 8:42 PM EDT reply actions
that article that someone posted right before you
Was saying there is no way Oswalt gets traded until after he makes his next two starts….I thought with all the talks heating up that it was going down soon.
by mick311 on Jul 22, 2010 9:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oswalt insists on making those starts
he will nix any trade before. one win ties him with joe niekro as all-time astros wins leader, and two makes him the man. he even offered to bump a start up, give himself the opportunity before the deadline and officially okaying a (the) trade.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
wow, that's interesting.
kinda feels like bad karma, though.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
haha, yeah, i can sorta see (or feel) that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Today wouldn't be a day that we'd use our long relievers though
Waaaaay to close, no team in the game is gonna trust their long relievers tied 0-0. We had to use our aces, so I don’t mind Boggs and Motte each pitching two innings.
jayson stark reports that we have offered two young players off our major league roster
sounds like mo is really trying to get it done without including Miller if he does this he will be a God in my eyes!!!
by CentralILcardsfan on Jul 22, 2010 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
does Stav count as a young player?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Stav and KMac
for Oswalt!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Ok...
assuming it’s two “young” guys off the active roster, who are the legitimate possibilities?
Motte
Boggs
Freese
Greene
Craig
Jay
Salas
Garcia and Rasmus are too good; Ryan and Hawksworth aren’t good enough.
Freese and Boggs are probably the most valuable, followed by Motte, then Craig, then Greene/Jay/Salas.
I’d be sad to lose both Freese and one of Motte/Boggs, but if it could be just one those plus a lesser guy, that would be ok. I don’t think Houston would throw in much cash for this caliber of prospect(s) but I bet Oswalt will forgo or rearrange the option year.
Fire La Russa!
I hope and pray that we trade Kyle McClellan in this deal, if it happens.
I would be incredibly happy if we did this and replaced him with Salas permanently.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I doubt K-Mac...
just b/c he’s arb eligible and not particularly young. I commented earlier that he should become a starter or be non-tendered. Houston is going to want that.
Fire La Russa!
I would really prefer
not to have lopez/craig/greene at third for the remainder of the season though.
The more I analyze this possible trade, the more I just really don’t like it, no matter how it gets done
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
wOBA
Felipe Lopez: .335
David Freese: .342
Tyler Greene: .348
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
you and your FACTS
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i doubt freese
givin his injury history and current DL status.
this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.
we are not trading our starting third baseman
for freeze alone houston would have to send a prospect with oswalt if they are not paying any of his salary.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I would personally try and keep Lopez there for the next few years.
But then again, I like Lopez more than most people and am not too high on Freese, especially in the power department.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
i like lopex a lot
but i think he is the second baseman. we will likely ride all the cheap years of freeze we can. remember, the dude is only a rookie – sure, he’s an older rookie, but still has a window to adjust and improve.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I agree
There is still 5 years of team control over Freese and he looks like at least an average player. He’s a lot more valuable than Miller IMO.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 23, 2010 3:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Boggs, Motte, and Garcia
are not on the list. At least if Mo doesn’t what his soul devoured that is.
this thread is all Aaron Mile's fault.
by Evilfrog on Jul 22, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It can't be Freese because he is on the DL.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
why does that exclude him?
he’s eligible to come off, and he’s still going to be a major league ready 3B prospect going forward
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I believe it is in the CBA
or a league rule that players on the DL may not be traded.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
but isn't he eligible to come off?
so theoretically they could activate him then trade him?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
That would be horrible, wouldn't it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
he's not exactly young tho
27is not old I know but not exactly young for a baseball player
by CentralILcardsfan on Jul 22, 2010 11:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's not going anywhere
what, you think we have another third baseman ready to take his place? we don’t even have a third baseman in memphis.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
salas and greene
if houston pays no salary. the more we want them to pay, the more we give in talent.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I dunno that's still a lot of talent to give up,
Freese in particular who seems to have established himself as a starting caliber major leaguer and will be free for the next few years.
I think you guys may be overvaluing Miller because of TINSTAAPP, I would rather give him up and have Houston fork over some cash that have to give up players of equal value and Houston kick back jack.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 23, 2010 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i would imagine salas and jay/craig
i don’t see them trading anything that’s not redundant and i doubt it’s motte or boggs
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
oswalt costs little in the way of talent
i don’t know why everyone doesn’t understand this. but if we want houston to pay his salary, then we have to sell them a shelby. it’s our choice.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
azru:
“Aaron Miles 0-for-4 out of the leadoff spot. Try to forget this.”
That’s cherry-picking. Raz, Mang, Holliday 1-for-12 behind him.
That's cherry-picking, too.
The whole team was 1-for-33 with but 2 walks.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The difference being those three are great hitters...
while Miles is likely to go 0-4.
Fire La Russa!
so more of the onus is on those great hitters
for miles it was expected, right? but the others f’ed up then.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The Moneyball movie has started shooting.
And here is a photo of Jonah Hill as Paul De Podesta.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
this whole oswalt thing isn't actually happening, right?
i mean, the cardinals don’t have that kind of money. or enough prospects to get it done. or anything houston would take. can i wake up from this dream yet?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
The Cardinals easily have all those things...
and what’s more, Roy O is in command of the situation with his NTC, and he wants to come here. He can basically force the Astros to trade him to the Cardinals, and he can make the trade palatable to us by restructuring his contract.
The liklihood of this happening seems quite high to me.
Fire La Russa!
correct me if i'm wrong
but a NTC give the player the right to veto a trade, not pick precisely to what team and for what players he is traded for. Correct?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Yes...
but he can put the Astros in the position of taking the Cardinal’s offer or not trading him. That gives us good leverage. Plus we don’t even need them to help with his salary since he can do that on his own, if he’s so inclined.
Fire La Russa!
i was being semi-sarcastic--you're right
if roy oswalt wants to pitch in st louis, he’s going to get to pitch in st louis. the two things holding the cardinals back from this are not wanting to trade shelby miller and $$$. oswalt can take care of the $$$ part all by himself. and if he is unhappy in houston and about to tank on the, the astros might lower their price and dump his salary.
though what they really need to do is dump carlos lee’s salary. that contract was absolutely hideous. NO ONE will take that on though.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This missive compares Lee’s trade value against some of the other worst contracts in baseball.
The conclusion? The only contract close to being as bad is Zambrano’s, and the Cubs still wouldn’t make that deal.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 22, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This missive compares Lee’s trade value against some of the other worst contracts in baseball.
The conclusion? The only contract close to being as bad is Zambrano’s, and the Cubs still wouldn’t make that deal.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 22, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Bite me, SBN.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 22, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
we have two choices
acquire oswalt for basically nothing and pay his salary, or send talent to reduce the money – the more we want the stros to pay, the more we send, all the way up to shelby miller if we really don’t want to take on much financial obligation.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You have to wait for the kick
Or else you’ll end up in limbo!
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2010 10:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm surely getting nextdef'd on this BUT lol
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/timo-perez-signs-with-phillies.html
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions
does he have a ring?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He played with the White Sox in 2005
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
d'oh
and us in 06, too,
/general knowledge
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
so that bastard has 2 rings
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, we sure did a number on the Phils
Took 3 of 4. Sent one of their pitchers down, and got their Hitting Coach fired. Not bad
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Two pitchers, in fact.
Kendrick went down for Carpenter, then Carpenter went down for AA guy Vance Worley.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 22, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
And, sadly, they're probably going to take Ol' Moyer out and...
no, I promised myself I wouldn’t cry.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 22, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Think Drayton is cursing his own existense?
Can’t figure out why he couldn’t spend his way out of this mess, can’t figure out why he is out of money and may have to send the greatest player in franchise history to the team he probably hates the most for Allen Craig and Jon Jay.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2010 11:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think you mean Ed Wade,
but they are practically interchangeable.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
jeff bagwell or craig biggio?
because I like Biggio in a platoon arrangement in which he only hits at Minute Maid.
In fairness
Oswalt does hold the highest WAR total for an Astros pitcher.
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2010 11:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If we empty our bench
Getting rid of Craig and Jay, for the love of God can we release Miles so TLR doesn’t have more reasons to use him?
by Hardcore Legend on Jul 22, 2010 11:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
the latest from fritz
“PJ WALTERS HAS BEEN PULLED FROM HIS START IN MEMPHIS AND TRADED STRAIGHT UP FOR ROY OSWALT.”
http://twitter.com/boxcar_fritz/status/19307013467
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
orly?
sb nation st louis comes complete with sources?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
we have as wide a range of made-up sources
as any St. Louis media outlet this side of Joe Strauss.
by DanUpBaby on Jul 22, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
damn. i'm impressed.
can i be a source now?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I once shared a gyro with Josh the bat boy at 3 am.
You get closer to the team than that, you get herpes.
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by Alxfritz on Jul 23, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
the cardinals have herpes?
Jason F. Werth…
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Isn't that the third done deal
reported by him in the last hour?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
quick look says yes.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
There may be more to come!
"In 2035, 25 young men will be able to call themselves world champions. Some of those guys haven’t even been born yet. And some of them are Asian." -Mike Shannon
by Alxfritz on Jul 23, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes!
keep ’em coming!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 23, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
John Lackey has a no-hitter through 7
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
aww, the P-D forums are trying to talk about stats
it’s so cute
ERA doesn’t mean anything in this case. Fielding Independant [sic] ERA would mean more, and I think Bernie posted today in his bytes that that stat was quite good, possibly Oswalts [sic] best in his career this year.
http://interact.stltoday.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=735432
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
twatter
you READ the P-D forums?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
so is it true Shelby Miller isn't good enough for Drayton?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think they just want players who can contribute in the majors right away
because they probably think they can compete next year (or get back in it this year – haha)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
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