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Trade Buzz Overflow/Pregame thread 7/22/10

Roy Oswalt this, Jake Westbrook that. Dan Haren this, Shelby Miller that. VEBsplosion!

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how dare you forget Nolasco.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 22, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

edit buttons

they work

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 22, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nolasco

No chance he gets traded but….

I like the way you think.

Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.

by Whiteyballer on Jul 22, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

has Shelby Morris been shipped away yet?

"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."

by The Classical on Jul 22, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions  

last I heard "nothing imminent"

except WAshington taking an early 1-0 lead

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Jul 22, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

sadly, neither can pitch

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Jul 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

We should just take that money from Oswalt's 2010/2011,

and use 1/3 of it to sign Wilson and Cox, and use the rest this offseason to sign Jorge De La Rosa or Ted Lilly. Then the remainder can be used to open that VEB bar everyone used to talk about.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Jul 22, 2010 12:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes and yes....

VEB bar FTW. Can I call dibs on creating the drinks menu? SABRBOMBS FOR EVERYONE.

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 22, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i missed an 'e'

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 22, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

No you didn't

Reads fine as it is.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Jul 22, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually have less problem with trading Shelby than I do with the money

Shelby is a few years away and a lot can happen in a few years. But Allen Craig would be gone for sure also. Berkman is probably gone after this year. Is is more about the money investment. But if this is the difference not just making the playoffs but at least getting back to the World Series. The additional profit would cover Oswalt. Seems like a big risk though

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 22, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got wood
dgoold: Watched the Austin Wilson Experience this morning. Saw him launch balls into the visitors’ bullpen, & Big Mac Land on last swing. #stlcards

by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 22, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

so many towels!

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

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by tgreenfield on Jul 22, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, cool.

I’m glad he got more than one day with the club. His batting practice session yesterday was rained out.

I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?

by The Continental on Jul 22, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yummy

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jul 22, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

why can't it be both?

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 22, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y'all thought U Were Haunted by Haren.....

just wait ’til u see the heartbreaking moans of angst if/when Shelby Miller turns into an ace for our divisional rival if this deal goes through…

:=8(

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Jul 22, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd sell shelby for oswalt's salary

let the stros pay it. but if the team can afford oswalt and wants to hang on to shelby, that’s fine too. then we ship craig/salas, something like that, and pay roy ourselves and keep shelby.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

You keep

saying that, but I don’t think that’s how it works when dealing w/ the Astros.

Regression, bitches.

by spants on Jul 23, 2010 9:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

then there would be no deal

mo isn’t an idiot.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volquez has now walked the bases loaded with one out

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 22, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

and just gave up a single to pitcher Livan Hernandez, 2-0 Washington

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 22, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I hope Volquez didn’t aggravate his arm.
Hopefully he just isn’t as good as I feared he would be. Not everyone can come back from surgery like Carp.

by bobohilario on Jul 22, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

RBI groundout 3-0 Washington

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 22, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 runs on 1 hit. Very efficient.

'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.

by Heisenberg on Jul 22, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't let that seeming efficiency fool you

they also had a few walks that just clogged up the basepaths, keeping their offense from moving along smoothly.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 22, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Serves the ped head right.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 22, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

but they have chapman!!!!

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 22, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't wait to see him come out of that pen

he’s fun to watch, for sure.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't wait for him to come up either

1.96 K/BB in AAA this year, we should be able to score runs in bunches off of him.

by vivaelpujols on Jul 23, 2010 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know how many bunches of runs we will score in one inning off him

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did

did you see his first start? if you are just going on this performance, then i guess most every pitcher is washed up, since they all have them. especially coming back from long injury layoffs – it’s usually every other start gets them for awhile. hell, carp was healthy and sucked for two starts in a row.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Either way it's ridiculous to expect anything of him

He was terrible in 2009 and has been terrible every year of his career outside of 2008 and is coming off injury and PED usage. To project him any better than you would any other lottery ticket is ridiculous.

He currently has 6 walks in 8 innings, so yeah, as good as new for Volquez.

by vivaelpujols on Jul 23, 2010 4:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's been out a year and you are basing something on his first 2 games back?

he is apparently healthy, and the last time he was healthy he was good.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

Livan Hernandez RBI Single off Edinson.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 22, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions  

y'all need to be more assertive when you post overflow thread links.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 22, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

oh please.

I suppose you think it’s all homogeneous.

and for your information, my Latin prof encouraged the use of y’all. Second person plural is otherwise not rendered in English.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 22, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

"yous"

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 22, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Brandine!

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

and I love second person plurals, but can it not be a word that makes you sound like an idiot every time you say it?

and I’m saying this as a former resident of Texas.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 22, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

its spelled youse...

as in, youse guys.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jul 22, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

We goin to the mall, yount to?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

(a little foxworthy there)

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just went with the phonetics.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 22, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

my usual second person plural is "you motherfuckas."

I’m thinking this doesn’t fly for everyday VEB use.

and I’m sorry you think everyone who says “y’all” is an idiot.
y’all just get over it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jul 22, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Dexter Mo they say you'uns

"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."

by spfldbird on Jul 22, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

like this

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 22, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As much as having Roy Oswalt a cardinal makes me need a towel...

I keep thinking that we really don’t need another #1 starter. We really just need a #3 or 4 who can eat innings right? I would rather bolster the offense with a 2b or a SS

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't wait

Miles can hit a blooper and play shitty defense like its no ones business

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jul 22, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Julio Lugo?

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

HUBBLE GOTCHU

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jul 22, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have we avoided being douches back to the Reds fans that came over that one night?

Cause the temptation is killing me

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for that fang kid

"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."

by vico on Jul 22, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, not a douche TO the Reds fans as far as I know,

but throwing it up to that crazy Reds fan here.

"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."

by vico on Jul 22, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I meant the shit like

“3 games back… let that sink in”

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't do it.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 22, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to

I’d have to become a member of their site first and whenever I feel like doing something its always a spur of the moment type thing.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So can I ask a practical question?

If the Reds beat us and make the playoffs, do we root for them? I’m kind of thinking I will should it come to pass. The NL isn’t looking half bad this year.

by mattisnotfrench on Jul 22, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. But really, are they any worse than Cubs or Astros fans?

Honestly, I don’t troll their blog but they don’t seem any worse than any other fanbase.

Except ours.

by mattisnotfrench on Jul 22, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

the guys we are referring to have been unable to handle winning with any grace

they ran their mouths with like 70 games to go and now they look stupid

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

well i didn’t help things when I accused them of being bandwagon fans… i knew it would piss them off but they were really on my nerves that night

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was also the night of one of the colorado BP implosions

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, well, you are talking one or two people

hell, have you read some comments on other sites by veb’ers?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

eh

one guy’s profanity-laced rant about VEB, the Cardinals, the city of St. Louis, etc., got like 8 recs and many more expressions of support. I’d just hate rooting for a team that has such an angry SBN fanbase.

אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס

by chalk on Jul 22, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you hate rooting for the cards?

i’ve never seen their members call each other names, or have any animosity at all toward one another. they are pretty civil and lighthearted compared to here.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

what have their fans done?

i’ve missed all this. is it new, historical, or what? i know their site well, and they are cool there. are you talking about at the games? do you live in cincy, by chance? otherwise, their fans have a reputation very similar to cardinal fans.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

what?

i was never a douche to that reds fan. just calling him out on his stuff ON THIS SITE. not even on his. it was a harmless joke. why you callin’ me out on it?

by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 22, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it was just one who said something maybe a little off

but then apologized. their site is just like this one, pretty good, but has a few who post shit on other sites. that doesn’t make all of veb bad, nor does it red reporter.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Adam Dunn was an all-star T ball catcher when he was 4.

"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."

by vico on Jul 22, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Volquez done after 2+

ouch

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Love it. Day keeps getting better.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jul 22, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who produces more WAR in 2010...

Volquez and Chapman or Hawksworth and Suppan?

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Jul 22, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

probably the first pair

in half the time.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 23, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love the big bow on it

(that Astros sticker is not a Caterpillar part by the way)

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 22, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

GAME THREAD

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG
My Boat has T-pain and nolasco on it, what does yours' have?

by CodyG on Jul 22, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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