The Roll
by the red baron on Jul 21, 2010 7:07 AM EDT
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We've waited for this all season, ever since those first few games of the year when it looked as if this 2010 team was going to roar through like a 2004 sequel. We've waited to see this bizarre, flawed, untimely team really put it all together and finally get on a roll.
Well, I think we can now safely say we finally know what it looks like when everything is working at the same time for the 2010 Cardinals. And it isn't too bad, is it?
Chris Carpenter looked healthy. Better than healthy, he looked efficient. Eight innings, just 90 pitches. Any time you can run through any lineup, much less one with the firepower boasted by the Phillies (even a half-strength Phillies), in less than twelve pitches per inning you're doing something right.
And really, that goes for the whole team. They're all doing something right at the moment. What's been most remarkable about this run the Cardinals are currently on isn't just that they're winning, it's the fact they're winning big. Not all the wins have been blowouts, of course, but just about all of them have been games which felt firmly in hand most of the way. The come-from-behind against Jonathan Broxton and the Dodgers didn't, of course, but the rest have. Honestly, even when last night's game was close, when it was just 2-0, there was never a moment when I felt like the Cardinals weren't going to win. It could be the massive dose of Ecstasy I've taken to ingesting before ballgames in order to cut the edge off losses, but I don't think so. It just felt like they were going to get it done, and nothing the Phillies could do was going to change that.
This is my message to all of you this morning: remember this feeling. Savour it. Soak it in, because none of us know how long it's going to last. Sure, the Cards have Jaime Garcia on the mound tonight, and he's as good a bet as there is to keep a roll like this going, and they've got Adam Wainwright going Thursday. Nonetheless, this whole thing could go right back in the gutter at any moment.
Still, for now, things look awfully good for our boys in red. Even with David Freese unable to get out of his own way and get back on the field, the Cards look strong. Sure, I cringe every time the ball is hit to Felipe Lopez, but hey, as long as he keeps getting on base the way he is, I can handle it.
The Cards' other rehabbing warrior of the O, Ryan Ludwick, is doing much better than Senor Freeze, as he hit a home run in his first rehab start last night. Of course, that forces us to confront the rather frightening question of just what happens when Ludwick is reactivated and a roster spot has to be found for him. Randy Winn hit a dinger last night, making it two days in a row he's hit a ball over the fence rather than throwing one over. Jon Jay is trying his damnedest to force us media types to dig up those old scouting reports that claimed he would win a batting title one day. And Allen Craig, well, Allen Craig is a bad, bad man, boys and girls. We've seen just the barest hint of how bad he can be. So what happens when Luddy comes back and there suddenly isn't even close to enough room for all these guys to get plate appearances? (Spoiler alert: I'll bet we're not going to like the way it plays out. Just a hunch.)
Kyle Lohse is on the mend, and on the radio, and the television, and guess what? He's all kinds of optimistic. Of course, that and four dollars will get you one of those fancy cups of coffee with the cream on top, but there actually looks to be reason for his optimism. He looks, dare I say it, close to coming back. Not close like the overly touchy sales girl at work who seems way too interested in how you're doing every day, but still fairly close. Like just about ready for a rehab assignment of his own close.
So with all this good news and sunshine pouring out of every hole, what could go wrong? Well, there are plenty of things that could go wrong, but honestly, I just don't have the heart to go over them this morning. I feel too good about this Cardinal team and where they are right now to rain on that parade. After months of waiting for this team to show up, months of frustration, we seem to have our team at last. A team that gives you that feeling, at least part of the time, that it doesn't matter what their opponent does, they'll find a way to win.
It feels pretty good to be a Cardinal fan this morning, doesn't it? I suppose winning streaks in general always do that, but this one feels a little more special than usual. This one feels like a prize long in the waiting and hard-fought for, a prize you sometimes doubted you would ever be able to reel in. Like I said, it could all go south tomorrow, or tonight even, and we shouldn't be surprised if it does. For now, though, it feels pretty good to be able to look at our redbirds and say they're right where they should be, finally.
Now, if we could just get the Reds to lose a fucking game...
The Baron's Playlist for the 21st of July, 2010
"Winning" - Emily Haines and the Soft Skeleton
"Everyone's a Winner" - Meligrove Band
"What's In it For?" - Avi Buffalo
"What's In it For Me?" - The Walkmen
"The Ballad of El Goodo" - Big Star
"You Win Again" - Hank Williams/ Ray Charles (I've never been able to decide which version I like better)
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anyone have the full sum-up on all the rehabbing Cardinals and ex-Cardinals
It would be cool to see it all in one place, but I can’t track them all.
Also, everyone wishes they were a warrior of the O.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Bring unicorns.
Strauss writes up the injured position players. The Freese timeline is pretty vague.
Concern exists that Freese could stress the injured right ankle if he returns too quickly and compensates for a painful toe. The club has confined its description of Freese’s ankle injury to a bone bruise; however, there have been repeated references to weakness in the area.
Manager Tony La Russa sounded more reserved than Freese discussing the matter.
Before the weight-room incident the club had projected Freese’s return for around the first of August.
No one publicly offered a modified time-line Tuesday but concerns were voiced privately that the accident could set back Freese’s return by two to three weeks.
Ludwick’s return is very near, it seems.
The Cardinals hope to activate Ludwick in time for this weekend’s series in Chicago against the Cubs.
There is also a little bit on Skip’s balky wrist and Greene’s continued progress.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It'll be so nice when the DL stops being a one-way trip.
It seems like the Cards have been adding guys to the DL without them ever coming off.
Pretty concerned about Freese. Is that ankle going to be an on-going problem from now on?
Also, is Colby’s hamstring still bugging him?
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 21, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks
what was all that about Ankiel? and Duncan? I mean, Randy Winn had this home run, and I wasn’t sure what was going on.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Side note
Apparently Ankiel is close to being called up from AAA here in KC. What a dumb signing by genius Dayton Moore.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
For a guy who can apparently spot minor league talent
My god is he bad at constructing a MLB team.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah 6ly
Supposedly the Royals rejected a deal from the Angels of P O’Sullivan for Callaspo. Seems like a good trade for KC.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Then Alex Gordon could play third.
Oh, wait…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Haha
No he’s an OF now…. #facepalm. They just moved him to RF from LF. He should have been in RF instead of LF the whole time with his arm. Just don’t understand sometimes. They don’t have Moose coming up at 3rd though. Sorry for hijacking this thread with Royals talk.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
that's what we get for you being a dual fan of the cards and royals.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm done in here today haha
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
To be fair he only cost about $2m, didn't he?
I actually think that was a pretty good upside move. It’s the sort of low-risk, high-upside move we often hope for the Cards to make in the off-season…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was around 4
but I may be mistaken.
by WyoCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
1 year $3.25 million contract
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, most of the ex-Cards are dead.
But Stan Musial is still around, ready to take some grounders.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 21, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
ain't dead yet
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Reds
The Reds almost coughed it up versus the Nats last night. They keep winning on this homestand, but Dusty has to get that bullpen to break down at some point, right? Right? Pretty please?
Dusty has sacrificed many young arms
To the Gods of Baseball. Thus in 2010 they reward there faithful servant.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
by mob16151 on Jul 21, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
He's got another lined up.
Anbody want to hazard an over/under on Chapman’s total number of pitches over the first 3 games he starts? When he actually starts, anyway.
Ha
Did anyone see the Phillies have demoted Kyle Kendrick to AAA after his bad inning monday?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
and they called up Drew Carpenter in his place.
Battle of the poor 5th starters, they lose, we win and win and win
and win and win….
and win and win and win
You missed a couple….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
This is my message to all of you this morning: remember this feeling. Savour it. Soak it in, because none of us know how long it’s going to last. Sure, the Cards have Jaime Garcia on the mound tonight, and he’s as good a bet as there is to keep a roll like this going, and they’ve got Adam Wainwright going Thursday. Nonetheless, this whole thing could go right back in the gutter at any moment.
I have my lucky charms, rabbits food, 4-leaf clover, black-eyed peas, and my fingers are crossed. Not that luck has anything to do with it of course.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
Which means the Cubs are gonna get the weak part of our rotation
but man I’d kill to keep this going through the weekend.
Yep...
I’m actually taking my father-in-law (Cubs fan) for Saturday’s game and I’m pretty sure it will be freakin’ Hawksworth, so I’ll have that to look forward to…
where does this idea that Hawksworth is terrible come from?
5 starts for us, no more than 4 ER given up in any one. Over roughly that period, he has an xFIP of 4.42. He’s not great by any means, and he needs to drop that BB/9, but he’s been a competent back of the rotation starter (and I will also add that he’s getting BABIP’d to the tune of about .370)
I didn't mean to imply that he's terrible...
sorry. I’d just rather see Waino or Carp at Wrigley.
It looks like Gorzelanny (of the pretty soft-tossing lefty variety) is going for them, so who knows what kind of lineup I’ll get to see. And if Hawk gets lit up for a HR or 2 (especially with all the guys he walks), I’ll be sitting at Wrigley Field with a bunch of liquored up Cubs fans listening to how the Cubs are gonna go on a roll now and whatever.
I guess that’s the risk you take going to a Cards/Cubs game there though, huh?
When I went to Wrigley during Memorial Day weekend,
the Cub fans were pretty subdued. Of course, it was Adam Wainwright and Albert Pujols doing the subduing…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yeah
I could use a trip like that!
It sounds like Lud might be activated by the weekend though. Pretty good-looking lineup if you slot him in and the team keeps hitting the way they have been lately.
Wait, opposing lefty = a Randy Winn in CF start (and no Colby) in all likelihood, right? Crap…
Probably, yes.
Maybe they’ll keep Bad Man Craig on the roster to have him rough up Gorzelanny and send a message to the Cub faithful…
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
but probably not in the starting lineup...
if Lud is activated. I mean, I doubt they’d throw him out in CF and start Craig in RF on Lud’s first or second game back into action.
Side note: Speaking of Colby, did anyone hear Al just bagging on him last night? And the dude wasn’t even in the lineup! He was talking about how Albert always plays banged up and junk but that Colby is gonna have to figure out how to get in the lineup when he has all of these little minor injuries.
It's been clear since Colby made the roster
that Al Hrabosky hates him. And I don’t think I am being unfair in the characterization. Nothing Rasmus does is ever praised by Hrabosky and Hrabosky always finds fault in Rasmus. I’ll never forget when Colby hit a double last year while batting in front of Pujols and Al said that the problem with Colby hitting a double right here is that the other team is now going to pitch around Pujols. Seriously, Al? It’s unbelievable. I really appreciated when he criticized Molina for not hustling against Chicago, but his anti-Rasmus bias is incredible and distracting.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
almost all of Al's critizism on Colby
is completely unfair. And I really grow tired of it. Playing banged up is not something we want players to do in all honestly. look what happened to Freese…
Albert playing with a sore leg is not nearly a burden on the team as Colby playing with a sore leg. Colby has to cover a lot more ground than Pujols.
Also
Albert is a freak of nature and seems to have the recovery powers of a video game character. I don’t really think it’s a good idea for mere mortals to try to come back ridiculously early from injuries or play through ridiculous pain because, well, there’s only one man who’s quite that ridiculous.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed 1000%
Perfect example with that “hitting a double is somehow a bad thing” story. It is just so predictable…
Last night, in the 5th (before Holliday’s 3R HR) Winn gets on base in front of Albert. Winn ends up stealing 2nd and I’m just WAITING for Al to say something about how it wasn’t a good play because now 1B is open and now they’re surely gonna walk Albert, which is somehow the worst thing in the history of the world. I mean, we’ve heard this ALL SEASON when Colby (or another guy) does it, so of course it’s coming, right?
Of course not. He doesn’t say a word. Scratch that…he breaks down Randy’s “pop-up” slide and talks about how impressive it was because there was “no wasted motion” and he can be “heads up and advance to 3rd if the ball gets away.” Really Al?
Such an old fucking curmudgeon…it really grinds my gears.
yeah
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Jul 21, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's clearly some form of dislike going on
I don’t know if Al still thinks he’s in clubhouse and he needs to get these little bastards off his lawn, or if Rasmus punched Al in the face and it’s been kept under wraps, or if Colby refused an autograph, or something else… but Al’s obviously got something against the guy. It’s almost pathological at this point.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
can you recall anyone else he's ever had this same attitude towards?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He complained about Allen Craig diving for that ball the other night when
the Cardinals were up by 6. Craig missed the ball, and Al said that you never want to take that kind of risk when you have a big lead. Um, wrong. I think it’s a general dislike of younger players, and a more specific dislike of Rasmus.
Regression, bitches.
Whatever it is, it's fucking tiresome.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I went to that game as well.
I was 10 rows behind the cards dugout and my first trip to Wrigley. I thought I was going to hate that park but I actually really enjoyed the ambiance and the history of that place. You could almost feel the decades century of misery seeping from the walls.
It also didn’t hurt that Waino was dynamite and AP had three dingerz!
by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Wrigley is fun
if you don’t have to leave your seat to do things like get beer, go to the bathroom, etc.
Wrigley is a cool place to go visit once
That said, I’m glad I don’t have to go there every time I want to see my team play. It’s pretty much a dump.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
by albrtfn on Jul 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't even like it the one time I went there
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
On the plus side
if it turns out that the Hawk is going on Friday, you’ll get Suppan instead!
Yay!!!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
looking at WAR
Hawks and Soup are nearly the exact same, replacement-level pitcher. Both are are -0.1 after 60 innings this year.
But from a attending-the-game fan’s perspective, I’d much rather watch the young pitcher.
I believe Hawk's been better as a starter, though, hasn't he?
and I definitely think he’s got more upside (slightly stronger peripherals too, and a bit unlucky on balls in play, whereas I think Suppan has been slightly the opposite). But yeah, I’m not sure I’d want to watch either of them!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Hawk is better for the bullpen
He has a nice fastball and that changeup. I’m not sure his breaking ball is starter quality.
I am certain that it isn't.
Someone posted a graph on it yesterday or the day before and it is not even bullpen quality.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Yeah
<1000 RPMs is terrible from what I’ve seen. And since he’s been a starter it’s been worse.
For reference: Penny’s curve is averageish watching it and he gets 1400, Carpenter about 1650, Wainwright gets about 1800, Strasburg 1900. RPM isn’t the only way to look at it, but it’s a quick guess that seems to match with what you see from a scouting perspective.
He’s been throwing a cut fastball a few times a game lately and I have to wonder if they are going to have him turn that more into a cutter/slider long term for a third pitch.
Not afraid to nitpick
Thing is,
He has made it over one of the biggest problems for relievers turning into starters: the platoon disadvantage. The problem is that he can’t do the thing most relievers excel at: striking out same-handed batters with a slider.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Jul 21, 2010 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not even that hard to get a good breaking ball
I bet I could throw a curve with more than 1000 RPMs.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You have 60'6" of space in your mom's basement?
I’m impressed. Is the ceiling down there high enough for this type of activity?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Are you misclassifying your pitch as a "curve"
when really it’s a “slurve”?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
He seems to have a problem with pitch classifications:
Hence, no Penny pitch f/x post
::Ducks::
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I classified the shit out of Strasburg though
GameDay changed their classifications after the fact to match mine.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
From your post at THT?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
It seems that way
Either that or from Colin Wyers’ post at BPro, but I’m not sure if they subscrive to that or not.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not that hard to throw a good breaking ball
But it is that hard to throw it consistently and control any breaking ball at the big league level.
Not afraid to nitpick
That's what I'm saying
He might just be a starter with his FB/CH combo + a average breaking ball, but his curve blows however he’s throwing it right now.
Given that the Matt Morris cutter lineage has apparently filtered to Carp on down to Wainwright (and Garcia has this killer slider out of fucking nowhere), it seems they are decent at teaching that. If they plan on Hawk starting long term, it’d be worth a shot?
Not afraid to nitpick
Isn't Garcia's slider more of a cutter?
I know it’s kindof a moot point, because (IIRC) they’re thrown with basically the same grip and action more or less, but I’ve generally heard Carp’s and Jaime’s referred to as more of a cutter and Waino’s as a slider, and I think more or less the only distinction is velocity…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Jaime has a fastball, a cut fastball, a slider, changeup curveball
The cut fastball and slider are very different pitches. Similar horizontal movement, but the slider has a lot more drop and his about 10 MPH slower.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 22, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and additionally
I thought I’d read somewhere already that he’s working on a cutter?
I definitely think it’s the way to go because as far as I can see it’s one of the easier pitches to “learn” at the major league level (I can think of tons of pitchers who’ve added a decent cutter, but pretty much nobody who’s suddenly developed a curveball at the top level), and that curve isn’t going to cut it (no pun intended).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions
i feel sorry for your father-in-law
he must have suffered a lot over the years.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
My Scott Rolen voodoo doll
is working wonders, but every time I use it, something happens to David Freese. Weird.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Jul 21, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I ran into the same problem with my old
Scoot Rolen Voodoo doll. Little delay reaction though. Since i’ve put it away Santa has turned back into Santa
yes, you have to wonder about that connection.
Maybe it’s a generic thirdbase voodoo doll since Scott is hurt now also. anyway, I rec’d your post cause you made me laugh.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
I think Rolen is worth more than Freese
so if it’s a war of attrition via voodoo doll, we’re winning. Until Votto goes down, anyway.
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been thinking about creating a Joey Votto voodoo doll.
But if I stick a pin in it, would Albert get injured?
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
I'm wearing my red-striped dress shirt today,
in honor of the streak.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
My first glance at your subject line missed out the word "shirt".
Interesting.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't mess with a winning streak
even if that means we all wear dresses.
(Taffeta is in season, so you know.)
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 21, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
bgh is utley's wife??
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
bgh was the woman on the montage before (during) yesterdays game?
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
Your sig makes this better.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
i've betted against the Cardinals (fake internet money)
for the last 7 games… I’m riding this streak.
Keep losing money for the cause, bro!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
But be careful
Before the fake internet bookies come along and break your spreadsheets.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
by TBender on Jul 21, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hope this is not a threadjack, but
I just wanted to say two things as a first-time commenter:
1) Reading some mediocre Philly press this week, combined with the generally good work of John Weisman and the Dodger bloggers, made me realize once again how lucky I / we are to have such great writers (and commenters!) who love the Cards, from Brian Gunn to lboros to the current crew here at VEB. I sent this post to a friend based solely on the caption under Carp’s picture [and my own massive dose of Ecstasy.] Just wanted to say thanks and great work.
2) Speaking of being on a roll, as I was reading this, I thought the only thing that could impove the feeling of a winning streak would be if RedBaron tossed in a little Big Star for his playlist.
And lo and behold, there it is: The Ballad of El Goodo
When I got a new laptop earlier this year, I was poking around some websites to load up on, ahem, utilities and such, and came across a t0rrent of #1 Record / Radio City.
Hmmm, I thought, I’ve heard of this band, but have never heard a single note of their music. Wonder what they sounded like?
Thinking all along that they would be like watered-down Cheap Trick or something so “experimental” and “influential” that it would be 2 hrs of whale songs or something unlistenable.
To say I was totally blown away is the understatement of 2010. And the moment that happened was exactly 0:39 into Ballad of El Goodo. And everyone who knows, knows exactly what I mean.
Plus, of course, that chorus is exactly appropriate for a winning streak. Ain’t no one going to turn me ’round….
So Thanks, RB and others, for your great writing and great taste.
YOG
by YearOfGlad on Jul 21, 2010 8:30 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Chris Carpenter is a bad man...
who doesn’t give a fuck about anything.
And regarding bad sportswriters, we have some pretty bad writers here in St. Louis. Our favorite (most hated) around here is easily Joe Strauss. Remember to bring a unicorn.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
by Heisenberg on Jul 21, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know that folks here hate Straussie any longer.
I think that we know what he is and how he operates and find it sad, which is why we must couple a Strauss reading with a unicorn viewing—to make us happy again.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 21, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No I don't hate Balboa
I pity the fooo.
I hate Strauss
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I don't hate Strauss
I hate burwell. I no longer read anything Burwell rights. I no longer listen to Burwell on the radio.
I do dislike Strauss. But it hasn’t got to the point where I turn off the radio when he comes on or avoid reading his work. Because he does provide useful information from time to time.
Burwell wouldn't be so bad if someone
stripped him of his biases, instructed him how to write, and taught him about sports.
by mattyp on Jul 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No, he's paid to have an OPINION
There’s a big, big difference.
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Which is werid, really.....
…’cause anyone can have an opinion, but presumably one is paid to have an informed opinion when writing about sports…
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
heh
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by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
I should have said Strauss was the most publicly disliked writer on this blog. There are plenty of those who hate both, but Strauss gets most of the attention. My beef with Strauss is that when he should be providing decent analysis or writing about baseball, he’ll take his article personal and will blow up minor clubhouse incidents into scandals.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
burwell's a close 2nd though
although with the recent crap from strauss, maybe the gap is a little bigger now
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Where does Gordo fit on this list?
He’s pretty intolerable as well.
And if anyone wants to defend these guys by stating that “It’s hard to come up with content about the team for a full season”, I’m going to internet slap them and then give them the links to Birdland and Goold’s Twitter feed.
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This is a funny feed...
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
Heh
RT @Erik_Manning Jeff Gordon likes Aaron Miles bc Jeff Gordon is the baseball writing equivalent of Aaron Miles #NotNiceButTrue
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by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You could also give them links to VEB
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but if they're defending those guys in this feed, then they're already here, right?
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Touche
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know if this is referring to anything
but i’m going to take it as an awesome non sequitur
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Welcome to the site, man
plus, 1000 bonus internet points for some truly weird use of the blockquote.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm giving you props for your Infinite Jest username
by Andyfantastic on Jul 21, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
now that's the way to bring it with a first comment
here, have a rec!
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
Crazy
RT @fox6now: BREAKING NEWS: Bob Uecker to return to broadcast booth starting Friday night at Miller Park.
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Awesome -- I may have to tune into that broadcast if I can find it.
I love Uke.
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...
i bashed matthew leach last night. he mentioned on twitter that the last time the cards won 6 straight (before last night’s win) that the cards went on an 8 game losing streak afterwards. thanks for putting that thought in our heads, buddy.
on a positive note, i really like the way this team is gelling. i don’t honestly know how our team, being so depleted, is managing to do what they’re doing. you would figure that a team starting randy winn, allen craig and aaron miles wouldn’t be winning 7 in a row. and yet, somehow, the cards are defying the odds. and i like it.
the offense, especially matt holliday, has really started to click. i’ve seen a big difference in holliday between the first half and the start of the second. maybe the derby actually helped matt…
We don't give a f***
about Matthew Leach’s lame attempts at a curse. And fyi neither does Chris Carpenter.
Wasn't he also saying that it occured in 06?
Or was that another extension of that discussion. But really I can stand a couple losing streaks if and only iff the season ends like 06
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
i do know
that the cards won 7 straight in 06 (from an espn recap vid). i would guess that it’s the same year, but i’d have to look it up to find out for sure.
I don't see a scenario where this team could lose that many in a row
Generally, teams that lose bunches of games in a row don’t have a true #1 starter that can stop the bleeding with 7 or 8 shutout innings. We have two of those guys, plus another one that is pitching like he is an ace so far this season.
When Carp and WW are on the mound, 5 Cardinal runs look nearly insurmountable if they get through the 7th or 8th inning.
Franklin still scares the shit out of me, but if the starter gets the game to the 8th inning, there are other options that we can use to get those last 2 or 3 outs if he doesn’t have it.
Oh, and fuck Matt Leach for being such a pessimist.
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He also pointed out
that we won the WS that year.
i think we had 3 or 4 losing streaks of 5/6 or more games that year, didn't we?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think it was two 8 game losing streaks and also a 7 game losing streak
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
still won the WS :)
found a closer in August—some guy we got from ATL for JD Drew.
Turned out to be pretty good.
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
No, he left
A few Krispy Kreme locations closed down soon after from losing all that business.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
True
But my point is really in play with the ’06 team because our pitching staff that season was absolutely awful outside of Carpenter. Injuries and ineffectiveness, but just happened to catch fire at the right time on October 1st and Jeff Suppan turned into Greg Maddux for about a month, while Jeff Weaver did his best Jared Weaver impression.
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and reyes started game one
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
And Jeff Suppan was NLCS MVP
Talk about catching lightning in a bottle….
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and while Eck was good
I think Molina or Rolen deserved the WS MVP…and I really wish the WS MVP was given as more of a playoffs MVP since there is no NLDS award
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
I dunno
didn’t Eckstein hit like .400 for the series from the leadoff spot in the lineup?
If anyone was the MVP it was the Tiger’s pitching coach for not training his relievers to field and throw bunts properly.
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Or Curtis Granderson for looking like he'd never seen a curveball before
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Fortunately, a ring is a ring.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
well
in their defense they did have Carp, Waino, Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds, Molina….
they weren’t that bad. And the team that lost all those games in the 2nd half of the regular season wasn’t quite the same team that kicked ass in the playoffs….
"Gelling"
I wonder what people think of our chemistry now.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
chemistry? it's as bad as ever
I saw players punching Matt Holliday the other day…
by mattyp on Jul 21, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
It was the whole team!
I swear. I thought Matt was doing his best impersonation of Jodie Foster in the Accused.
by Mulliganstew on Jul 21, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
there is a resemblance...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah...
the team was punching the [stuffing] out of holliday! it was awful!
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you mean (stuffing)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
They think he's a massive (seed)head, apparently.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
oh come on, guys.
the rookie got in the first swing. doesn’t that count for something?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe that win streak and the aftermath is why TLR tried to take a fall during the final game of the dodgers series...
he told the team…you guys keep winning you are tempting fate..you have to fall into the playoffs like 2006 not skyrocket into one like 2004
Why would you bash Leach for pointing out a fact?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
zoomzoom thinks everyone has his jinxing "powers."
Regression, bitches.
by spants on Jul 21, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think it's hilarious that zoomzoom got on someone for jinxing the team
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
no kidding
zoomzoom probably managed somehow to jinx the team with that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
When the Ludstick returns....
I think you have to look at shopping Jay and another minor leaguer (or maybe Greene, Boggs, or KMac) to try and pick up another arm or a middle infielder that might be on the block.
- I don’t see Jay having a ton of value as a corner OF, and he’s not going to be a CF for us, but he might interest another team that is short on LH bats and needs an everyday CF. I think his value to other teams is as high as it can be right now, and I also think it exceeds his value to our team as a 4th OF.
- I’m not a big fan of moving Greene, but would do it for the right price. I just don’t think he has much value.
- I think Boggs and K-Mac have to be trade-able options for this team. I like both those guys a lot, but they both profile as possible starters and have some pretty good value I’d imagine. I also think that we can afford to lose one or both of those guys with both Sanchez and Salas to replace them if we can upgrade our middle infield or #4 starter by moving them. I think you have to make the deal if you’re offered, say, Stephen Drew for Jay and K-Mac. That’s a pretty solid deal for us imo.
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Would that be enough for Drew?
I would think we’d need to offer more
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It really depends on where the D-Backs think they are right now.
If they think they’re a year away from competing, then that deal kinda makes sense for them, as Jay can help them in the outfield and K-Mac might be able to help them in the rotation. We might have to give up one more player as well, I guess.
If they’re blowing things up entirely, and starting the rebuilding process around Upton, Young, Reynolds, Montero, Kennedy, and Jackson while dealing away Johnson, Haren, LaRoche, and Drew for value then they’d probably ask for more prospects and not guys that can help right now — in which case we’re giving up Miller, and I don’t think that’s a good deal for us.
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Gotcha
Would you trade Miller in a package for Drew and Haren then?
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Depends on a couple of factors
- Is payroll going north of $115M? Because that’s the only way that deal works and we stay competitive.
- Who else are we giving up? If it’s Miller, Jay, K-Mac, Boggs, and a couple of other C prospects that works. But I’d imagine we’re giving up Descalso in that deal, and I really like him as a second baseman of the future — and we only get Drew for 2 more cost controlled years, and they’ll be expensive years at that.
I just don’t think that we have the scratch in the farm system to pull off a trade of that magnitude.
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Yeah I agree
I would love Haren but I just don’t see how it’s possible with our payroll, available prospects, and most importantly being able to sign Pujols. I’m really intrigued about Drew. I think he’d be a perfect fit with the BoB.
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As far as middle infielders go
Id love to get Bartlett from Tampa, they have a bunch of middle infielders and they aren’t likely to keep him at 5 mil since they are dropping payroll to 60 mil next year. He’d be a great starting shortstop and Ryan and schumaker can split the time at 2nd.
by lopey986 on Jul 21, 2010 10:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I forgot about him
Bartlett would be nice as well. I wonder if they would part with one of their extra MIFers?
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by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Why do you love Bartlett?
If he is a .380 wOBA player, he is a tremendous value, but I don’t think he is. I’d rather not pay him $6MM next year to have a .300 or .310 wOBA, unless his defense is not going downhill. Three-year UZR would put him at below average with the mitt. What effect the Tampa turf has on this is beyond me, though.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Why Bartlett? He's about as good as what we have right now.
He’s NOT the .380 wOBA player he was last year — that was clearly a very good year, but he’s just not that good and hasn’t been in any other year over the course of his career.
Drew would be a much better option as he is younger, better defensively, and has been a better offensive player in all but one season.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Wow didn't realize that about Bartlett
Pass then. Go for Drew.
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by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Aren't drew and Bartlett the same age?
And all I read about on here regarding lohse is he’s only been bad cause of injury. Well Bartlett has been hurt all year and is just now starting to get healthy. Tampa is looking to clear cap and Bartlett is owed more than drew so he’d be cheaper (in terms of prospects) to acquire I would think.
by lopey986 on Jul 21, 2010 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Aren't drew and Bartlett the same age?
And all I read about on here regarding lohse is he’s only been bad cause of injury. Well Bartlett has been hurt all year and is just now starting to get healthy. Tampa is looking to clear cap and Bartlett is owed more than drew so he’d be cheaper (in terms of prospects) to acquire I would think.
by lopey986 on Jul 21, 2010 11:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that's a good point
but i guess it come down to what AZ would want for Drew. If we could get him for KMac and Jay, like fourstick said, then doitdoitdoitdoit. but Bartlett carries the risk of not being an upgrade at all, whether for not being able to reach career-year numbers or just never getting healthy.
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Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
why would Ryan play second base? that wouldn't make any sense at all
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
...he started at second base...?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
What? He played SS all throughout the minors
Only 2nd when he first came up because of Khalil
Most 2nd basemen are converted from other positions anyways
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
because anyone can play second...
right?
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
he played seocnd base all through high school.
I believe, anyway. tis not a meme, I think they’ve said before that he started out at 2B.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
in any case, I'm mostly disputing "that wouldn't make any sense at all"
this is not a Skip situation. if he were put at third base, where he has zero experience, that would be— oh, right. Tony’s done that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
We should convert Craig to a 2nd Basemen before we put Brenden there...
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
if craig could play second we'd have our own
dan uggla without having to trade for one.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
And his name wouldn't be Uggla...
He should change that to something more pleasing… (i.e. Jon Jay, Chris Carpenter)
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
anyone can play second base
why would we waste such an excellent defensive player there? surely we could just move him to right to replace ludwick?
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Not officially,
but he’d just be the PTBNL and then moved when he comes off of the DL.
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Who do they have to replace Drew?
Is Tony Abreu next in line? I think a trade with the D-Back’s would have to include a SS going their way…Greene or Ryan (If we’re getting Drew, we don’t need both anyways). I’d start with Ryan/KMac and see where that gets us. Drew will be in his second arby year next year, and will probably be looking at $5-6M…
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by cardzfanbub on Jul 21, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
How much of a drop off in defensive value is Drew from Ryan?
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by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
According to Fangraphs...
He’s went from a poor defender in 2006-8 (not uncommon with young SS’s – See Furcal, Rafeal and Renteria, Edgar) to a plus defender 2009-10. His 2010 season is right in line with Ryan’s (3.2 vs. 3.0 UZR), though Ryan’s 2009 UZR was off the charts good. It’s safe to say he’s a step down defensively, but still a better than average SS.
I could see us making a trade for Drew, but I see us trading him away NLT 2011 offseason. We just won’t be able to afford much of anything until Lohse/Carp come off the books once we extend Albert.
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by cardzfanbub on Jul 21, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Responding to your three bullets. . .
Yes, Yes, and Yes
Although unless the D’Backs are dumber than I think they are, I don’t think that Jay and K-Mac would be enough to get Drew.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't either, but like I said above, it kinda depends on where they think they are as a franchise.
I would think that Jay, K-Mac, and another B prospect would get it done though — maybe David Kopp?
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Let's get this done Mo! We know you're reading this!
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by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Jay, K-Mac and one of Greene/Ryan
would be something they would have to think about.
Of course, someone on here was saying they wouldn’t trade Drew for Ludwick, and I don’t buy that at all.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I think they have to make that move...
Probably a fair trade for both teams, though it would be hard to let Greene go.
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by cardzfanbub on Jul 21, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you have any idea how much they've invested in Upton?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
6Y$56M I believe
and he’s insanely cheap for a guy of his talents until about 2014.
That’s probably the second or third best contract in baseball right now, imo, with Longoria being #1 by a mile.
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...Oh, I knew the answer, I was just being facetious
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i think the d'backs would prefer craig
he could play first or left for them. jay is most valuable to a team needing a cf’er i’d think, and the d’backs have young, though i have no idea of his contract situation.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Young is signed long term through 2013 and is pretty cheap as well
Thing is, he’s got the stick to be a good corner outfielder (16 HR this year), and if you put Jay and his excellent defense in CF and Young in LF with Upton in RF, they’d have one of the better defensive outfields in baseball.
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yeah, good point. i didn't consider moving young over
that would be a good outfield.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That was me actually
And the reason is that he’ll be more expensive than Drew next year, a FA after that, and they aren’t built to win next year if they’re trading Drew away.
Why would they move Drew and want Ludwick? The entire deal doesn’t make any sense.
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Because a healthy Ludwick. . .
in that park, probably makes them a top 3 offense in the NL and allows them the freedom (offensively) to dump whichever LaRoche is playing 1B (I get them mixed up, they’re both awful), and find a league average 3B who isn’t awful defensively.
Of course the problem with all of these trade scenarios involving Drew is that they have noone to play SS in Drew’s absence.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
A healthy Conor Jackson does that too though
So would putting Jay in CF and moving Young to LF, and that move would make them better defensively.
I don’t see why they would have any interest at all in Ludwick.
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Connor Jackson is an A now
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7486
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I dunno
3 spare parts for an above-average player at a premium position, who I think I’m right in saying still has two arbitration years left under team control (if it’s only one I guess that changes things)? I just don’t see how they’d do that in a million years. Maybe I’m wrong but I just don’t think it happens.
I doubt we’d accept three spare parts for Ludwick, even if we were looking to dump his salary for something, and I’d say he’s of similar value to Drew.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We're contending though, and they aren't
That’s a big difference.
Three spare parts? I dunno about that. K-Mac has been a very good reliever the last 2 1/2 seasons, and could probably be a fairly effective 4th starter. Jay could be a good CF option with his defense and left handed bat. Greene can play above average defense at about any position on the field and has some pop.
I’d say they’re getting some pretty good pieces for one guy. Could they do better? Probably, but certainly not with guys who could play right away.
As I said above — it certainly depends on where they think that they are as an organization.
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None of those guys are above-average players
they’re two bench pieces and a middle reliever. I’d say that’s pretty much the definition of spare parts. If they could get one impact player, or even a cost-controlled average starter, I’d say that’s more attractive than that deal. KMac hasn’t started since 2006 and I’m personally doubtful that he could do that job. Knock a couple of mph off his fastball and he’s a batting practice pitcher, IMO.
Drew’s not great but he’s still cheap and I think he’s got 2.5 years of team control left, and there seems a reason to suspect he’s above-average at a premium position now (in the midst of a career year).
I guess if we say Luddy and Drew are similar players in value (which doesn’t seem unreasonable), it would’ve been like us trading him last year (2.5 years of team control left) at the deadline for (just plucking some comparable pieces out of the air) Sam Fuld, Andres Blanco and Sean Marshall. I just don’t think I’d have pulled the trigger on that, even last year (and Luddy was having an injury-affected down year, then, too).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Hard to argue on Jay...
I like him a lot, but he is most valuable in CF, and we’re set there for at least a few more years. He’s got significantly more value to a team that needs LH help at the top of the lineup, and a solid CFer.
Greene doesn’t bring back anything by himself IMO…‘cept maybe middle relief. He’d have to be part of a package to bring back a starter or established SS (we keep saying MIF, but Lopez is a great 2B).
I’d like to hold on to Boggs (stuff is just too good), but KMac should be our most available commodity. His line LOOKS excellent (ERA under 2), he’s arby eligible for 2011, and Salas/Sanchez could outperform him today. I’m down for the Drew trade!
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Jul 21, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Add 3B to your list, Fourstick
Lopez has been adequate, but he’s gonna kill Albert one day with a throw into the baserunner. I’d prefer to see him at 2B.
Freese is a definite “maybe,” along with Penny. If Craig or Greene isn’t going to get a chance to play 3B, we need another bat
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
how much would Jay and Greene bring in a trade?
or better yet, how much would Craig, Greene, and Salas bring in a trade?
/VEB flame war baiting
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing a lot of awesome
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this idea
one of Boggs/KMac and one of Greene/Ryan/Jay for Drew. That strikes me as a good fit for both sides. I wonder if the Cards might ask for an A-ball throw-in prospect or something.
I wonder if teams (especially if they’re planning on going into rebuilding mode) might be more interested in Sanchez/Salas than the arms already at the big league club.
i hope we keep sanchez
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
for some reason I just don't want to make any trades this year
we just need to find the next Simo man
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That's less than we gave up for Mark DeRosa last year
and Drew is way more valuable than DeRosa (cheaper, probably better, more premium position, younger AND signed for more than just half a season).
I just don’t think people are being realistic as to what Drew will fetch in a trade. There are a lot of contenders looking for a competent shortstop, and one with another 1.5 or 2.5 (not sure which, I think it’s 2) years of team control is even better.
I think the Diamondbacks could get one or two teams to part with their top prospect to land Drew, or at the very least a couple of B+ prospects. I just don’t see why we think we can get a valuable piece with spare parts.
Boggs, Jay and Sanchez might just about get it done. I really don’t see why they’d trade him for any less than that.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions
How about them Phillies?
While our team has stopped and started, failed to get going, and generally been mildly disappointing, we have never been less than 45% to get into the playoffs and always looked like an incredibly talented team just waiting for a bit of luck.
The reigning NL champs are now sitting at 11.4% and have been essentially crushed by their top-heavy pitching staff and loss of their real best position player. Ruben Amaro has proved that he really was the luckiest GM in baseball for a few years: The Ibanez, Moyer, and Howard contracts were all terrible, but because of all the underrated talent on that team, they were able to survive some stupid decisions. Now, they no longer look like the fearsome Phillies of yesteryear, and it will take some excellent play and serious luck for them to get back into this thing.
It feels like it wasn’t long ago that any game against the Phillies I was relieved to avoid a blowout. Now I’m hoping for a series win or better. I can see how a little more bad luck would have put us into their position, but now all we really need is a bit less luck from the Reds. I’ve never rooted harder for the Nationals.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
Strasburg goes today against the Reds.
This may extinguish the Reds’ luck, especially when they trot out a lineup against him that is without Scott Rolen.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Strasburg is probably a terrible matchup for Rolen anyway
Seemed Rolen always struggled against great fastballs, and there’s nobody faster than the Burg.
Not afraid to nitpick
Especially after the shoulder injury, I would agree with you.
I just meant that losing Rolen’s .380ish wOBA is going to hurt that offense sooner or later. He and Votto have been a tremendous one-two punch and Gomes has been the beneficiary in terms of RBI with those two getting on-base in front of him. Add to this that the immortal Miguel Cairo is starting at third for them, I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh for sure
I was just throwing in a needless comment, because that’s what we do here.
Not afraid to nitpick
Fair enough.
Carry on.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Bossa Nova!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Cintron!
err…
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
perhaps one of the best,
politically incorrect scenes ever on film.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
this is gonna be my FB status for today.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
We're not so good either when Pujols is hurt
I realize Utley’s not a complete explanation for their problems, but playing without Utley still is a major factor. He’s their best player, and most teams don’t do well when their best is down.
And remember, this team still still had enough in the tank to sweep the Reds, so I wouldn’t be overly optimistic. But they definitely are a shadow of the invincible Phillie incarnations of the past two seasons.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Jul 21, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
We play in the weakest division in MLB
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Your mom plays in the weakest division in the MLB
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 21, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Boosh!
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 21, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately for JD
his mom is none other than Mike Fontenot.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Given my irrational hatred for Mike Fontenot
You just crossed some mothafuckin’ lines
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 22, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Aw
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He's been a top 3 player in the game
Even if you don’t buy the UZR’s (which I probably don’t), his baserunning gets marks for being amazing too.
Not afraid to nitpick
I mean they were still projected to do well going into the season, even with all of Amaro's bad contracts
So it’s a bit unlucky that Utley got injured, Ibanez has underperformed, Blanton has sucked, Happ is injured, Lidge got injured, Madson got injured and sucked. I can’t think of a single player is who oeverperforming on their team this year (maybe Polanco).
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
on paper and healthy I still think they’re marginally the best team in MLB (although we’d probably be in that discussion too).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't see how we even afford Haren
They gave up 4 good prospects for him a couple of years ago, and they’d be selling low on him at this point, and that’s before we get into whether we can afford his salary added to our payroll.
I’d much rather go with Westbrook and hope for a Penny return (or a Lohse 2008 return) for the last 4-6 weeks of the season.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I don't see Haren either.
It seems like people are really holding on to that “I’d really like to play here again someday” quote from a while back. I’m pretty sure the D-Backs don’t give a shit if Dan Haren would like to return to STL.
Haren would be pretty freakin’ cool (assuming we didn’t have to give them the Arch or Schlafly or anything) and although I don’t think it would necessarily take “4 good prospects” like he brought a few years ago, I don’t know that it’s a very realistic move.
...the Arch or Schlafly or Shelby Miller...
I have tried to put this out of my brain, trading for Danny Haren. After all, there are the looming offseason extension negotiations to be had with Albert Pujols that will carve out an additional $10MM+ of the payroll and a baren farm system from which to draw in acquiring him. It would almost assuredly require Shelby Miller or a St. Louis landmark. That being said, Danny Haren is the one that got away. I couldn’t even watch him pitch for Oakland during the Mulder years. I won’t watch the Cards-Diamondbacks games that he starts. If we got him back, I would probably lose any sense of rationality in assessing the trade. I would probably be that guy who goes out and gets an authentic Danny Haren jersey to commemorate the trade.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 21, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they can have the arch and put it next to the london bridge
Havasu is the place to be.
by Evilfrog on Jul 21, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ha!
It sounds like you’ve been incredibly measured in your reaction to that trade and subsequent rumoring ;-)
Yeah, it would almost certainly have to include Shelby and I don’t know that we should revisit trading a promising young pitcher for a high-salaried, established veteran.
Arizona will have to give a little bit of a shit
Since Haren can veto a trade to 12 teams.
by lopey986 on Jul 21, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
All the more reason to keep him around
It’s not like they’re in horrible shape as a franchise. They have a very flexibile payroll situation, have their best player locked up long term, and have some young, cheap pitching options at the big league level, they just need seasoning. This is a team that with the right deal could easily compete in that division either next year or the year after, so I see no need to blow things up.
Taking 40 cents on the dollar for Haren because he can veto trades would be a really stupid move for them, imo, especially since the other 18 teams that he can’t veto a trade to have better prospects than the Cardinals do.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yeah I agree
If I was Byrnes I’d only deal Haren if someone blew me away with an offer, which realistically probably isn’t happening this year. I think they’ve got a sniff at competing next year, there’s really no-one who looks like they’re going to be dominating that division in the meantime.
They’d really look in better shape if they hadn’t made that horrible trade in the winter, though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
He makes a lot of
$ though, and teams want to shed payroll. That contract of Haren’s could turn bad in a hurry.
and we could be the ones
to take it off their hands.
by WyoCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
"Teams want to shed payroll"
Really? Which teams specifically, because I doubt one of those “teams” is Arizona, who have only 2 long term commitments on their roster that will be above $10M in the next 3 seasons.
If you’re going to make comments like this, it would behoove you to look at their payroll situation here. Click the link to open the spreadsheet that shows their existing payroll obligations going forward. We’ll be paying Matt Holliday and Albert Pujols more than they even have on the books in 2013, and that’s WITH Danny Haren.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I also don't see how Haren's contract could turn "bad"
Even with #3 starter production, he’ll easily be worth the $13M he’s going to make the next two seasons, and then they can buy him out of that last year if he’s headed downhill.
There’s absolutely no need to salary dump him, as we covered in a thread a few weeks back.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yeah, this
Haren is a very valuable pitcher. He’s better, younger and cheaper than Roy Oswalt, and the Astros want a decent prospect for Oswalt.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh. When did that happen?
Sensible move, I think. For a guy who seemed for a while like one of the best young GMs around he sure made some moves that turned to shit in the last 2-3 years.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Haren would be great but its just not gonna happen..
that link says the cards aren’t interested in trading PROSPECTS for a one year rental. That definitely makes sense especially if they are going to part with a Craig/Jay or even one of the bullpen guys, but from what I have heard out of Mo (ktrs,bernies show) the team was leaning more towards a one year rental guy they could pick up by taking on salary rather than giving up prospects….
by mick311 on Jul 21, 2010 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
the link says
the cards aren’t interested in trading prospects for a ONE YEAR RENTAL.
Hooray! Harren back on the table!
and we keep Luddy's salary?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
He’s gone on record as saying he’s from the west coast and of course if he got traded to a west coast team, that would be ideal.
It’s all just soundbites – totally depends on what reporter and media outlet.
some people on my softball team saw dan haren throwing balls against a fence earlier this year at the field we play at
maybe i should go hang out there until haren shows up and have lots of pies ready.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Or, bring a mitt,
since poor Danny Haren seemingly has no one to play catch with? I find this kind of sad.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yes, if you need more pies let me know.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
OF THE BANANA VARIETY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
for the love of GOB
please, NO ONE PHOTOSHOP THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
was noted yesterday in cyberspace
that westbrook gets a 2M lump sum payment upon a trade and his 2010 base salary jumps another 1M. If we go after him, I’d hope the quality of prospect goes up or down, depending on who picks up that cash.
Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!
by timmycardinals on Jul 21, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Indians apparently aren't interested in JUST a salary dump
but a big part of me thinks thats just a rehtoric
I can't see us trading anything concrete for Westbrook
he’s not much better than our current 4th/5th starters (he’s better, definitely, but I could see him only being a 0.5-1WAR upgrade or so over the last couple of months) and he’s expensive.
To be honest I’m not particularly excited about getting him, I’d probably happily just wait for Lohse (or even Penny), but if we did make a play for him I’d hope it’d be for nothing more than something like Francisco Samuel.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
If Lohse has a setback or Penny looks out until Sept
i can see the FO making a move for a pitcher, if Lohse is back on schedule (Late July i believe) then i think we’ll get to october, even without Penny
Always better to have too much starting pitching..
….than not enough. I say we get Westbrook and fight over who gets the starts later…
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Couldnt we just say to Dbacks GM:
Hey look the only reason you have him is we got robbed by Beane…see he’s stolen property just give him back and we won’t go to the police.
by ADMDrayson on Jul 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
its a bold strategy cotton
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
westbrook most likely
the cards are going to have a little bit of an issue $-wise if they’re gonna go after haren. i’d love to see it, but westbrook makes more sense.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
This happy go lucky version of RBis a bit frightening.
I hope this team keeps rolling, or the crash to normality could be brutal.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Dear Baron,
Lay off the X. I don’t want to have to refer you to Dr. Drew. Also, I don’t really see the Reds running into the ditch. The Cardinals have to keep positive and energetic and RBI-tastic.
Honi soit qui mal y pense.
I feel pretty good about the steak rolling on tonight.....
This will be the 15th game this year for me….so far I’m 11/3….somehow I’ve only seen Garcia once but I bet he bounces back tonight
by mick311 on Jul 21, 2010 10:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Starter yes, but
Closer is going to be an issue. Not a ton of available closers, but maybe Seattle would part with Aardsma? Anything else out there? Maybe the Sith Lord Duncan still has some dark side that he can lay on Franklin, but……
How is the closer/bullpen going to be an issue?
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Bully may be come around, but does Franklin stick out as a trusted go to guy down the stretch, maybe just my opinion, and that may be from watching Izzy go from “works well” to “best we have” to “OH NO!” over a short stretch. If there is a ton of faith in him out there, than so be it , but I’ve just seen this play out before. That and the train wreck against the Dodgers a few weeks ago really has me concerned. That being said, since I’ve moved away from the area I don’t see every game. Maybe if I watched as much as I wish I could, I’d have a different opinion.
Franklin is actually having a really good season
BB/9 down and K/9 up.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that his earned runs through this year have already exceeded what he did last year through half as many games. And yes, his WHIP is lower but his ERA has nearly doubled since last year. To his credit, he is on pace to improve the number of blown saves, but that seems unlikely if the ER pace keeps going up
This actually makes me feel better about Franklin this year.
This year, his BABIP is about average and he is walking almost two fewer batters per nine innings. And his HR rate, while low, is not so low that it is unbelievably lucky. I am no longer waiting for the other shoe to drop. His xFIPs for 2009 and 2010 are almost identical. I feel more comfortable with the 2010 Franklin.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
and then you look too closely at his beard, and it goes to hell.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be more distracted with the bird flying out of it personally.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
good movement.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
VEB has even (more or less) dropped the Franklin Sucks meme
It has been a surprisingly stable year from Frankie, I must say.
except for 2 games
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
other than that one game in Colorado--
(I find myself typing this in many contexts.)—Franklin’s been pretty reliable. I don’t immediately get in the crash landing position every time he comes in anymore….
not even remotely related
but i still get into the crash landing position EVERY TIME KMac comes into a game. weird, but i just can never trust him.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
I do too
I think azru has said he feels the same way. It’s irrational, he’s a good pitcher, but I just can’t help myself.
its entirely irrational
i have k-mac on my fantasy team (VERY deep league with 5 RP spots), and he has only lost me points once or twice. he’s almost always good for 4-6 points (can’t ask much more from a non-closer role). he has a lot of holds.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Both Franklin and KMac have cut down the BBs this year
which is really all they needed to be reasonably successful.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Internal candidate, probably
both Boggs and Motte look like they wouldn’t be embarassing in the role, if Franklin falters. I dunno if Aardsma is a massive upgrade over what we’ve got, and I think he’d probably cost more than he’s really worth.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
is that a type of marsupial?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't get it, Yadi.
I JUST DON’T GET IT.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Aardsama
I must be mistaken. Afrotherian, perhaps.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, mysterui.
Any insight on lunch?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like tomato bisque, salad, and a sandwich today
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
hard-hitting reporting here in VEB!!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Company man.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
anyone who wants hitting tips or a heartwarming story of life renewed
tune in to Albert’s Make a Wish segment, or whatever they’re calling it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is that today's Make a Wish?
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha I'll have to find it then
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
also includes a nice juxtaposition with today's caption.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
on a side note
nice videogame machines.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
the one good thing about Josh of FESPN
His West Coast bias.
Which means while every other anchor fails to name anyone other than Albert Pujols and the flavor of the month (and maybe they’ll play name that Molina) … Josh will name off everyone who lives or went to school in California.
AKA the only way Brendan Ryan gets any play in a night full of defensive gems. Or, how to get Skip Schumaker’s name pronounced correctly.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If ESPN dedicated a channel to Women's softball...
would it be LESPN?
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Jul 21, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Someone is suggesting LaRussa to the Cubs
poor cubbies
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
that was a mulling incident.
let me find the thread.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
here it is
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
desparate times
i think it’s pretty obvious that sandberg is the heir for the managing job.
there’s also been discussion about prying jocketty from cincy on the radio. Hendry has to be on the chopping block, right?
hendry
you’d think so. he has made a lot of head-scratching moves over the years. plus, the cubs fans hate him to death.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Hendry should be gone even before Lou IMO
he’s made some breathtakingly abysmal moves. As with the likes of Ed Wade, the game has passed him by, badly.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
No kidding.
Rebuilding is barely an option, as they have so many shitty longterm contracts (Zambrano, Soriano, Ramirez) that nobody even wants.
God Hendry is horrible.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Ramirez's is contract is only through next season, isn't it?
That’s not that long-term.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I doubt Ramirez pulls the trigger on that option.....
/how stupid are player options? Especially $15million player options.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
they can't trade ramirez
he will exercise next year’s option considering the (injured) year he’s had, and there is a clause in his contract that if he is traded the 2012 club option automatically vests.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I was just using it as a an example of the long-term contracts Hendry has given out.
Also, They have extended Dempster for the next 3 or so seasons as well.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Ramirez has like 18 homers in his last 5 games
If he continues his return to form, his contract is actually fairly decent.
he's hit 5 HR in the past 3 games vs. houston.
Randy Winn could do that.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
In his last 12 games
He has hit 9 homers and raised his OPS about 200 points. He is on fire right now, Astros or otherwise.
if I was Ricketts
Hendry would have been the first against the wall as soon as I took over the team.
And I'll repost this for those who weren't in yesterday's thread...
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
by Heisenberg on Jul 21, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Ha!
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Some Folks should Pay Moore Attention to their Jobs...
Obviously a favorite Five-Oh hangout
Bennett was in uniform at the time of his visit to Club Alex’s in Stoughton and was reported to authorities by at least five other officers, said Stoughton Police Chief Paul Shastany.
Apparently he wasn’t the only cop there that night…
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm gonna have to rec that again
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec'd (again) like Buster's general reputation within baseball circles.
Perhaps he should stick to licking baseball cleats.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
stark also mentioned larussa.
as far duncan wanting to ‘stick it to the cards’ as the link you provided states, i’m calling bullshit. if that were the case, he would already be long gone. also, i just cannot imagine larussa going to the cubs. he may not be universally loved in st louis the way torre is in new york, but he is definitely greatly appreciated, and he just doesnt seem the type to give that up to me. im pretty sure albert would kill him if he did it.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
...
you’d think DD would have left after the whole situation with trading chris last year. but, in the end, he stuck around. but, they seem to be a team. whatever duncan does, TLR will do (or vice versa)
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
the vice versa may be right
but tony has stated that he and dunc are not a package deal, that dunc leaving wouldn’t mean he’d necessarily be leaving too.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
TLR is on the record
saying when he’s done managing in STL, he’s done managing. I can’t see him moving to the scrubs and starting all over vs. penciling in Pujols and Holliday for the rest of his career in the dugout.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Isn't he also on record
as saying “I don’t think I could managed the Cubs” if he left St. Louis?
I don't know, but I just don't
see him going to a team that’s going to need a good 5 or 6 years of rebuilding before they are in contention. TLR has the horses here and now to compete for the WS for the next 3 or 4 years. He’s not going anywhere.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
If he was gonna leave, he'd have take the Yankees job a few years ago
It was definitely on the table for him to go there, and I think it would have been a disaster, because he’s not good with the media and you have to be in New York or they’ll run you out of town.
There’s no way he goes to Chicago — that team is fading and will be in a cost-cutting mode for at least the next couple of seasons. I see no way that they’ll be competitive in 2012 or 2013, and I’m really, really surprised that Derrek Lee has not been moved yet. They could absolutely get value for him in this trade market where there are few good bats to go around.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
lee has to approve the trade i believe
but i can’t see him not wanting to go to a contender.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He hasn't been moved
‘cause he sucks. I think he’s finally on a bit of an upswing.
I would posit that he sucks
because he plays for the Cubs. That blue pinstripe stink will make anyone suck.
If their going to move Soriano, this would be the year to do it as well. You might only have to eat 1/4 of that contract instead of half of it
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
ok that link was old
but I guess it is being talked about. I can’t imagine even anyone in Chicago going for it. St.L would probably riot.
That’s probably what they need to do-get rid of Hendry and start all over. Not that I want them to be a well run organization or anything.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
This upcoming stretch of day games can suck it.
I hate it when we play in Wrigley.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
at least we're on espn sunday night.
but yeah, day games suck. especially at wrigley dump. nite games rok!
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you really underrate him.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I'd rather read
17 Strauss articles than listen to Joe Morgan talk.
by WyoCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we have Carpenter going that night...
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
I consistently underrate him
But hey, at least I’m consistent, right Joe?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yep.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
What’s Morgan Ensberg doing these days?
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Jul 21, 2010 5:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Living in the UK
I have to give a big thumbs up to day games. It’s a nice, civilised start time for me!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
what inning is tea?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I usually tuck in to scones and Earl Grey around the 4th.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Since they are six hours ahead,
tea time has long since passed for first pitch. I remember watching Sunday Night Baseball on the BBC at like 3:00 a.m. when I studied there. And Thames hit a homer for the Yankees. How appropriate!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
On the BBC?
I call transatlantic shenanigans. Pretty sure it’s never been on the Beeb. Sure it wasn’t Channel 4, with Jonny Gould and Josh Chetwynd?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
It might have been.
I don’t remember. I remember going to bed early and getting up at 2:45 to watch it in the common room. It very well could have been Channel 4.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That is rough.
The AC in our hallways was out the other day and it was disgusting.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
DONE
I also loaded up My Progress Bar to watch the time tick by
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
hfs that would suck!
hang in there man
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
You're in a suit and tie?
I don’t see you as much of a suit and tie guy, Flim….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I don't wear them to often
But actually have quite a few suits. I get them custom made out of Thailand
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
How much do they run you? I’m a pretty average guy, but I still can’t get a department store suit to fit just right.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
so true
Always get a suit tailored after you buy it. You will look a 100% better. I paid $350 a suit for mine
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
To get it tailored? Or, just for the suit?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I was worried there for a minute.
And you are absolutely right. Every suit must be tailored.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i think a shirt and tie is sweet,
but i dont have to wear it to work everyday.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
OT: Apparently Jenny Finch is retiring...
I guess that Celebrity Game performance really got to her and she decided it was time to hang em up.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
When Hammer goes yard on you, perhaps you should rethink your career.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
MC Hammer is the Pete LaCock of celebrity softball.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by Epic on Jul 21, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Off-topic: School bullshit
Lets see if anyone here can relate to the bullshit I’ve had to go through this summer.
____________________________________________________________________
So I doubt anyone cares on here, but Im on campus today working on a research paper for 1 credit hour.
First: I’ve had to jump to multiple positions in the library because of renovations. Nothing like trying to write on ecological issues when someone right below you is drilling and hammering shit into the wall.
Second: Why 1 credit hour you ask? Let me explain. I should have graduated in the Spring of this semester, in fact, I had all the hours I needed. I took my finals, I walked across the stage and received my diploma. After graduation, I looked up my grades to realize that I failed one of my classes. Oh yes, I failed a class, the only class Ive ever failed in my entire life…by a whopping 5 FUCKING points. So if I would have gotten a B on my final instead of a C. I would have passed. Nothing like paying for 1 credit hour of classes out of pocket.
Third: Im taking 1 credit hour because that one class left me 1 credit hour short of graduating. On a side note, I diddled her favorite student for a week then dumped her. Yes, I said diddled. And no, I dont give a fuck.
___________________________________________________________________
Anyways, karma is a bitch and so is regression.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
by Heisenberg on Jul 21, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
So...
Maybe you should have just studied and got a ‘B’? But no, you were entitled to those 5 points.
by lopey986 on Jul 21, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Come on, man
this is totally someone else’s fault!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
And when and where did I say that it was someone elses fault...
glad you guys can just assume that Im blaming anyone but myself…
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
TBH I have little room to argue
as I graduated with a 2:1 (i.e. 2nd best degree) from university when I was plenty smart enough to get a First (and missed it by a few fractions of a percent, I think). The slightly annoying thing was that a few people with LOWER grades than me in my subject actually ended up with a better final degree. Kinda crappy luck, but again only myself to blame as I could’ve done better with more work.
And I wasn’t getting laid. So at least you got that going for you.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 21, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what, fuck it, I blame my love for the St. Louis Cardinals
I skipped that class on multiple occasions to watch Cards day games. Especially opening day at Cincinatti. It was a monday and I was pretty sure I had a quiz that day. But noooOOoo, I stayed home and watched the game instead.
/lol
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
you will be rewarded for that in the end
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Jul 21, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, its not that I was entitled to those 5 points...I agree its my fault for fuckin up.
But the professor had me believe I was in good standing all semester and that I was going to pass with ease. Grades were never posted, I completed every paper. Apparently, I lost points on attendance as well.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
And I studied my ass off for that test...
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
If that was possible...
I’d consider it.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
or diddled the prof
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
attendance grade = bullshit
if i’m capable of achieving a level of knowledge without attending, then that’s my choice. I pay you for a service. The degree to which I use that service is not your choice.
With the exception of a lab-type or participation class, of course.
where i went
they had a rule in place that attendance cannot negatively affect your grade. It could boost a persons grade but was not allowed to hurt you. Professors still did it because most people didn’t know or care to do anything about it, but it was technically a written rule that a professor actually told me about.
ugh
at my school you cannot pass the course if you miss more than twice the number of times you meet in a week. e.g. in a MWF class, you can’t miss more than 6, in a TTh class, you can’t miss more than 4, and in a once a week night-class, you can’t miss more than 2.
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
Mine is the exact same way
what school do you go to?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
well even though I wasn't talking to you
oddly enough I go to Moody Bible about 2 blocks from Loyola’s downtown campus
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
ya right down the street
i used to live near there
Grading on attendence is invalid anyway IMO
A teacher who does this is deducting or adding points based on merely sitting in class. That has nothing to do with performance. If an educators want to ding people who don’t show up regularly, they should give regular quizzes or have a lot of discussions or something. That way they can say that Absentee X didn’t complete required components of the grade, which is perfectly valid.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, at least you got something out of that class
Did you ever think about taking it pass/fail so you could fuck off the class the entire semester? Doesn’t sound like you needed it.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I didn't need it for any requirements. I just needed the hours.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
For useless credit hours,
may I suggest a class about balancing checkbooks or playing pool? Maybe a Music Appreciation class focussed on Hip Hop or Rock and Roll history?
If your college has an athletic program, trust me, these are available. You also might be able to get a part time job tutoring your classmates that are on the football team.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
This next year (senior year), having already fulfilled my major requirements
I’m taking a 4 hour film symposium class where we watched advanced screenings and directors come and talk to us (USC Film School FTWinn)
A 4 hour class about the Beatles
A 4 hour class to finish out my minor
A 2 hour class on sailing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
My best elective class
Was a class about Racquetball. Attendance was 100% of the grade
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If you wear suits to work
Racquetball might be the best class you ever took in your entire four years to prepare you for a career, or maybe I’m just stuck in the world of 80’s wall street movies where playing racquetball with your boss nets you a ridiculous career after you kick his ass.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Racquetabll is a brutal sport to play
No sport ever tired me out like Racquetball
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
this is hilarious....
it’s a class “about” racquetball, it’s not even a PE class where you play racquetball.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 21, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
No that is all we did
Is play Racquetball
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, i see. the "about" threw me off
I also took Racquetball for a PE class, but it was a different experience. To get the only A available, you had to win the class racquetball tournament. I got an A- cause I lost in the championship. All other grades were Bs and below. The two worst players in the class played and the loser got a D; winner got a C-.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 21, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that would take all the fun out of the class
Though it would be some seriously intense competition. Hopefully you weren’t friends with anyone in the class
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
No, I knew almost everyone in the class.
The guy I lost to in the final is still one of my best friends.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 21, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn
That would be intense. I’m not sure that’s the best way to do it but I’m sure the instructor had fun. Or something.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
all the PE classes were like this so it's not like it was a surprise
better than boxing and wrestling, which were set up somewhat similarly.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 21, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
that's pretty insane
never heard of something like that before, but i like it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i don't
i would be incredibly pissed if my GPA got fucked because i’m not good at goddamn racquetball
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
No, you should be pissed because you're not good at goddamn racquetball
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 21, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bowling
was my favorite for a full credit. If you bowled a 200 game, you automatically got an A. Simply had to show up the rest of the semester.
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
I took a Canoeing class
a Rock Climbing class
and a tennis class.
Best 1.5 credits of my life
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
...
i hate you.
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
I took it in high school through the local community college
So I could leave school early every day
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Classes
My senior year, I took fencing for half a semester. The foil kind, not the theft kind, though that would have been fun as well.
There was an evil porn villain...
…in Buttman called The Diddler…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Jul 21, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sheeesh....
…I try to school you young’uns and fill yer cute fluffy little heads with real world knowledge, and this is the thanks I get…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Haha, I had no response. I get the reference...
Never seen this porno.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
OT: Apparently Jenny Finch is retiring...
I guess that Celebrity Game performance really got to her and she decided it was time to hang em up.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
What the....I think you got SBN'd
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
That's a weird SBNing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Yes it is...
either that or I really want to get my point across…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
OT: Apparently Jenny Finch is retiring...
I guess that Celebrity Game performance really got to her and she decided it was time to hang em up.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
curiouser and curiouser
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Jul 21, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it's time to reboot
there is some crazy stuff going on here…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
+20
Haha!
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
holy crap, SBN twilight zone
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
he was in the minors, wasn't he?
i can’t remember who he was with – is he a pitcher?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
OT: Apparently Jenny Finch is retiring...
I guess that Celebrity Game performance really got to her and she decided it was time to hang em up.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 21, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHA, now this is just getting hilarious
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
this was not SBN'd
but it is funny nonetheless.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you did there...
and I like it.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
it's not Jenny
it’s Jennie.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I just figure it's not a big deal
to get an accomplished professional athlete’s name right. and no, as far as I can tell, it is not a nickname.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Y2S says no Jennifer?
Interesting…
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
I was surprised.
apparently it’s Jennie Lynn.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
forrest gump is overrated, imo
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
its kitsch to me
and overly sentimental. its style just rubs me the wrong way.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Jul 21, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if you mean overrated in the Iliad/Odyssey way then I agree
/Iliad and Odyssey are not overrated either
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
The Iliad and the Odyssey aren't overrated in any way
And Forrest Gump is stole Oscars from The Shawshank Redemption.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Just because The Shawshank Redemption is a better movie
doesn’t mean that Forrest Gump isn’t great in its own right
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I actually don't mind Forrest Gump, but I do think it is overrated
The Oscars that year are exhibit A. There are things I really like that are still overrated.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Yeah i was just trying to say that
a lot of people say epics are overrated when they are not
Both Shawshank and Gump are in my top 5 favorites
Also, it seems that most of my comments today have been related to Stephen King
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Aaaah, my bad
Didn’t catch the irony. Stupid internets…
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
how do they work?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I think one of the tubes got stopped up or something
and then I wasn’t able to hack the mainframe.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
VEB: Where multiple posts about Jennie Finch's retirement occur.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 21, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Some really needs to find the tagline code in the source code...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Possible player that shall not be named acquisition.
What would we have to give to get him? I was reading MLBTR and a few people mentioned Shelby/Ludwick, but then quickly said that Ludwick wouldn’t have appeal for them because they would be blowing the team up by trading Haren…. My question is, what is reasonable? I think trading Ludwick would not be ideal, but to get someone like Haren would be amazing. Jon Jay/Allen Craig/Winn conglomoration would have to hold up, but I guess I just wanted to gauge other people’s feeling on this subject?
If he is part of the deal
Doesn’t that all but assure Ludwick/Carp are gone? Or Carp is going to take a STEEP paycut?
well, i don't expect the club to pick up carp's expensive option
but i think they might be able to work something else out.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ludwick's gone probably whether
the trade is pulled off or not. with the current outfield situation, there is just no way that lud will fit, especially if craig and jay are given a chance.
as for carp, who knows. he’s a free agent after this year, i think. he’s 35 too. i don’t know how much longer he’ll be around.
Carp is signed through 11
and has a team option through 12. I still think Luddy can be locked up for 2 -3 years at a reasonable rate.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
what's lud getting paid this year?
isn’t it something like $5M? i just don’t see lud being able to come back. it will be really difficult if albert re-ups this upcoming offseason instead of after.
Arbitration is probably going to be in the 6-7 mil
range, I would think. 3 yrs @ 19 -20 would probably get it done.
And yes I know Craig is cheap, but this is RFL!!! we’re talking aboot.
/pure speculation.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
any chance all these big contracts are ending in 2012 due to it being the end of the world and all?
i guess then i wouldnt have to worry about how bad this team might look in 2013
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I just dont see us going after the Geico Caveman...
To the point, monetary reasons.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
I was thinking today
Do you think Holliday switched his jersey number from 15 to 7, to remind us on a daily basis of his 7 year contract?
RFL for GG!
Holliday always wore 5 IIRC
That one’s taken
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, his number and his spot in the lineup were both taken by the same mang
but it seems to be working out now.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Jimmy is having a good year if anyone noticed
Will end up probably being a 2.5 win player this year
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope this little extra gets him into the HOF
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Jul 21, 2010 6:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rolen too
I thought both would miss out. Both guys probably deserve to be in (mainly because their defence puts their HOF-marginal offensive careers in, IMO) but another, say, 1-2 years of healthy production from both probably put them their, especially if they can put up a sneaky 30HR year or something (which Rolen was well on the way to until he got hurt).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah but JD Drew wore Seven
And he was a legend here too!!!
For the record, I think Drew is a fine player who, though frustrating to watch regularly, didn’t embarass himself as a Cardinal. Far from it, in fact. His wOBAs were .344, .384, .432!!!, .342, and .381. Pretty damn good and the only thing he didn’t really do was stay healthy. Which sucks of course and added to the frustration but did not make him bad. Aaron Miles is bad.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
getting hit by a pitch on the hand halfway through a season
while being on pace for 50+ HRs doesn’t help either
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
That blew
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
and it was in interleague
so it’s not like we could “retalliate”
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
what are they soundin like?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
like the best power pop band on the planet
thats right Danup, I’m calling out Weezer.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
ah
so I will find them super annoying
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm your resident experimental/weird music guy
if that gives you an clue (no, not a huge fan)
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
right on
yeah, there’s a small chance that I might like it, but lately I haven’t been listening to pop music at all.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
no no
give em a chance. Alex Chilton was in that band. Listen to em at least once.
Comparing them to Weezer is not doing them any justice at all.
Yeah, they are better than Weezer.
I’m just saying they are both power pop. And antagonizing Danup.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I liked Weezer for their first 2 albums...
everything since… not so much
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The whole "I'm going to prove to you that I have nothing to prove to you" vibe gets to me
Not afraid to nitpick
what do you mean?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm
maybe its cause im in work mode, but i honestly don’t have any idea what you are talking about. It’s ok though. I’m just kinda out there right now
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
really? Maybe the modern day Weezer
but the Blue Album is irrefutably one of the best albums ever released
I will cop to not having heard everything Weezer's done
but I’ve never been into anything I’ve heard from them
Elliott Smith did an AMAZING cover of Thirteen, if anyone likes him
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
i must thank the baron for white blank page
by mumford and sons. great great song.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Little Lion Man is my favourite of theirs.
One of my fave bands of the last year or so.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Big Star members keep dying!
someone should tell them to stop dying.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i'm with leach: lol.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Secretly a psychological study to see how optimistic or pessimistic greater NYC is
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm no expert but... what is with the pitcher's mechanics?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
After he releases the ball and follows through, he "springs" back up into that position
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
so that's his fearing for his life mechanics?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
fascinating.
thanks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
astros clearing up 40-man
with another roster move coming after the game
over/under on weeks before werth bangs berkman’s wife?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Werth apparently banged utley's wife
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
that would be a team chemistry breaker for me
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Slumpbuster?
Shameless Rob Dibble reference….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Decades ago, a couple of Yankees "traded" wives.
Or at least that was the story.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
If the trade is between Yankees,
Who gives the cash considerations?
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Jul 21, 2010 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ruben amaro
is “very, very aggressively” working to move werth. the real rumor being for oswalt
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
because he banged chase utley's wife, of course
obviously it won’t be the astros he goes to, but i can’t make that joke if i don’t know what team he’s going to
jeter’s wife?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Trade him to the Indians so he can bang Roger Dorn's wife.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
My best freind
asks me that every time I talk to him. Wierd thing though…. My youngest is really short and scarily athletic. Just like my best friend. Hmmm.
Hang on a second. I’m gonna go call my wife….
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Could also be that they have Brown at AAA
and he’s raking.
And they need a starter.
How does one sleep with Werth if one is married to Chase Utley? I’m not an expert on handsomeness, but I would suppose that more women find Chase Utley attractive than Jayson Werth. Maybe she’s a Dead Head or something?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Could it be that Werth is the "Man among the Men" or something like that?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a lumberjack and he's okay?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Yes... exactly!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be
She looks a little bit like Megan Fox, actually.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
lol @ chase utley
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
He's the Werth among equals
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions
trying to get werth involved in a three-way as well.
maybe ruben should try harder…
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
werth in a three-way...who else's wife is involved?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think he and his beard count as two...
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
werth is not at all attractive
speaking as a member of the fairer sex.
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
unless you're Chase Utley's wife?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he is if you're looking to fornicate your way back down the human evolutionary chain
which she apparently is
Maybe she was looking for a man with two working thumbs.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would she want that???
Oh wait, forget I asked.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
Playing RF for the Phillies*
So easy a caveman can do it! ©
*Or the Brewers.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
My friend (female) said Werth was the only attractive guy out there
But I think she likes the scruffy look
Yes definitely scruffy
He looks like he doesn’t wash his hair. ick
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
After the stunt earlier today
I am to recuse myself from posting further today… well that and I have TiVo to be watching.
Recurring posts to come later.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
It was hardcore crazy...
I guess this is what happens when I try to post comments after working 16 hours yesterday and getting up after 5ish hours of sleep.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
completely on topic
i’m sorry that you’re not getting anything done the rest of the day
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Oh fuck when did we travel back in time
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
it took the genie two tries,
but it finally got peter venkman
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
My firewall is extremely happy
that I will get some work done today.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
which one
The FlimtotheFlam or VEB Proxy
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
flimtotheflam
finally got picked up here @ work and is blocked. Veb proxy still works, but not as well as the other did.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
did you let your co-workers on it?
Or was IT just smart enough to figure it out. The VEB Proxy just looks like you are surfing google from IP perspective
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't give it out.....
Websense grabbed it. This is the message:
This Websense category is filtered: Parked Domain. Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that is so weird
Surprised I get enough traffic to even get picked up
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya, I was kinda pissed.
Websense picks stuff up through the VEB that it didn’t on the other. Craigslist, for example.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
not to hard to set up a proxy through your home computer to use at work
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Did NOT get Stubby Clapp, though.
Guessed David Ortiz (!), Michael Young, and Casey Stoner (a motorcross star).
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
He couldn't guess Adam Wainwright :(
He guessed Josh Beckett, then Jon Lester, then Carp
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He got Wainwright for me on his second try
He guessed Josh Beckett first on mine too
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Got Stephen Strasburg first try...
Genie understands hype.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
It just got JP from Grandma's boy...HOLY SHIT
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
and Greased Up Deaf Guy
I give up
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
It guess Pujols first, then correctly Yadi on the 2nd guess
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
he got Colby right
but it took him three tries. I think having English as his main language threw him off
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
It got Underdog right
that’s impressive
also, I love Underdog
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
It guessed Colby right given 30 questions
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
wow
it guessed exactly right on harry from dumb and dumber…. that’s like a cool 21 questions game
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It guessed mary swanson too
for me
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
nice
actually watched the movie couple days ago…. that’s why i did it
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 21, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Rejoice!
RT @KenTremendous: Attention, Fire Joe Morgan fans: happy to announce that FJM will ride again, this September 22, on Deadspin. #FJM
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 21, 2010 2:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
FANFUCKINGTASTIC!!!
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Let me know when someone actually fires Joe Morgan...
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
did you see him flash his ring at orel herscheiser (spelling) the other night?
it was sickening
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
One day, Orel is gonna toss Joe out of the booth.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I heard Joe endorsed having Orel as an analyst.
Here’s how the conversation went…
FESPN Brass: Hey Joe, what would you think if you could have Orel every night?
Joe Morgan: I’d like that very much!
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not picturing anything on VEB, not picturing anything on VEB, not picturing...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I'm sure he makes him kiss it off camera.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well apparently you weren't watching
because jon miller DID kiss it
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
was it a world series ring, or hall of fame?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I need more than one day...
I hate being teased.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I like this
Now, if there was only a way to recommend that others read this…. Hmmm….
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
So I have been thinking about the pitching line up this weekend
Right now it seems as if we are going to run out hawksworth (gawstab) and suppan and then carp. The thing that I wonder about is whether or not we will make a trade before then. It just seems to me that Tony would have aligned the pitching in such a way as they had it earlier in the year (when they were getting 2 of Carp, Waino, or Jamie every series).
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions
I think Tony focused on 8 games against legitimate playoff contenders
and was willing to take whatever hand he was dealt against the Cubs. Look at who we play the next 2 weeks…Cubs, Mets, Pirates, Astros…we should do fine, regardless of which of the 5 start.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The White Sox are "trying to accelerate" talks with the Brewers for Prince Fielder
per MLBTradeRumors citing Rosenthal.
That’s a rare time when you can use “Prince Fielder” and “accelerate” in the same sentence.
to be fair, he accelerates more than most.
i imagine he takes much more time to reach his top speed, whatever that is, than, say, crawford.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
nevermind
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
I get it, he actually moves pretty well for his body type.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
in a race with Kung Fu Panda...
who wins?
If there is a slice of cake at the finish line?
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I believe we are all winners there...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Fun fact: The Cardinals are only 5-4 when scoring 7 runs this year
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Also, we are only 7-7 when allowing 2 runs this year
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
moar 7's
the 1890 Browns and 1925 Cardinals are the only teams in team history to win 77 games in a year.
the only team to lose 77 – the 2003 cardinals.
Surely some fool...
…in the pre-FJM days would learn of this fact and spin it into some grand yarn about the intangibly intangibles of the Cardinals DNA of grit (apologies to DGoold, but that was pretty bad) and stuff. Assuming they paid attention to that sort of thing.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
MLB.com article paraphrasing dan and al
“and in the equivalent of a mid-season trade, former All-Star Edinson Volquez returned from Tommy John surgery in time for the second half”
You know MLB.com... It really is!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Did they add on that he
failed a PED test and received zero discipline for said infraction?
Screw you Selig!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It's a load of crap
that he was able to serve the suspension on the DL.
There is no other way to spin it. The team was not penalized at all by his use.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
The rules should be amended to stipulate that a player must serve his
suspension when he is fit to play and not disabled.
by Ghostrider520 on Jul 21, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The rules should actually ban a player for a meaningful period of time.
A couple of months is derisory. PED suspensions should start at 2 years.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 6:25 AM EDT up reply actions
indifferent really
It’s okay for us to jump up and down screaming now. But if it was a Cardinal player I’m not sure if we would be.
Were the rules designed to penalize the player or the player and the team? If it’s just the intended to penalize the player than it is fine. If it was intended to penalize the team as well then the rule needs work.
I just think that this is a fair play issue.
And it could lead to bigger problems. What’s to stop a player coming off of TJ surgery from using if he won’t lose any playing time? Sure the money hit is there, but I think it needs to be reworked.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
songs listened to lately on my mp3 player
Amon Tobin – Nova (great summer song imo)
Estradasphere – The Debutante
Fennesz – Rivers of Sand
Orange Goblin – Alcofuel
Primus – The Pressman
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions
I love Amon Tobin
I listen to his stuff all the time while I’m puttering around the house or cooking dinner.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
yeah
He is one of my all time faves too, especially the first two albums ‘Permutation’ and ‘Supermodified’. They are all good though, really. That last one was pretty interesting, I need to give that a listen again (it has all real live mic’d sound samples from a Foley room, I think it was one of the major video game studios that let him use it, Chaos Theory was also recorded there, that soundtrack he did which was also great). he is a big influence on my electronic music
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
also, shameless plug
you can buy my last album here: http://www.reverbnation.com/sitari on cd. I’m going to order some to sell myself too. although I have a new one coming out in a month or so. for fans of Amon Tobin, Aphex Twin, Autechre, Orbital, and similar sounds (although my stuff is not as good as those guys!)
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
you're not selling yourself till you put a link in your sig.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that day will come
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like the 50/50 drawing at the little league game over the weekend.
3 tickets for $2, or 6 for $5. What a bargain.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I didn't even know I was selling ringtones to be honest
the best deal is just buying the cd because I think the artwork is pretty cool and it has .wav files. you can always import the mp3s
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
you like Permutation and Supermodified better than Bricolage?
I agree they’re fantastic but Bricolage is in my top 5 favorite albums EVER, it’s by far my favorite of his.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
yeah I like them better
for some reason I thought bricolage was a Cujo release
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
the only album he released as Cujo was Adventures in Foam, which i’m not that into.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
I'll have to give Bricolage another spin
I like Supermodified best I think, it’s got a little of everything on it
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Tobin rocks
I’ve always wanted to try to put together some shit that sounded a little like that, but by writing the stuff ahead of time and miking instruments and chopping them up in the wave editor, as opposed to sampling & sequencing. Guy kicks ass.
Fennesz does some out there shit, I’ve only heard a little bit. You into Venetian Snares at all?
So I'm listening to Bernie with Cal Eldred and Ken Reitz
Ken Reitz sounds like Cletus the Slack Jawed Yokel
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions
Some folk'll never eat a skunk, but then again some folk'll
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I shake my head in sadness when I think that Colby could be sounding this way in 25 years
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Brandine!
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 21, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey!
Tiffany, Heather, Cody, Dylan, Dermot, Jacob, Jordan, Taylor, Brittany, Tiffany, Wesley, Rumer, Scout, Cassidy, Zoe, Chloe, Max, Hunter, Kendall, Caitlin, Noah, Sasha, Morgan, Kyra, Ian, Lauren, Qbert, and Phil 0- we’re eatin’ tonight!
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Jul 21, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gravity is an illusion...
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/13/science/13gravity.html?_r=2&8dpc
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
They should take those guys and make them figure out
Why the fuck does Jason Marquis allow fewer hits on balls in play than Randy Johnson before they start pondering the non-reality of gravity.
(Gravity as we know it seems to me to be an entropy reducing force….everything would be randomly distributed through space if gravity were reversed and matter would push away from other matter. I get the feeling they know this better than me though.)
Not afraid to nitpick
Supposedly. . .
back in the 30s, Dizzy Dean read an article from a Harvard scientist stating that a curveball was an illusion, to which he replied, “Go stand behind a tree 60 feet 6 inches from me and I’ll whomp the hell out of you with an illusion.”
I say supposedly, because I read it long ago, and it may be apocryphal. Still, great line.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Jul 21, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It is a bit of an illusion
Magicians use similar arcs in their movements to deceive your eyes when pulling off a magic trick or illusion. It’s something about the way your eyes perceive the movement.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
here's what i got out of the article
by _pistol_ on Jul 21, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This reminds me of a joke that'll probably have me on the fast track to hell...
You have to be Hawking smart to beat ALS… yup I said it…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Oh yay string theory...
my brain hurts… really really really bad.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
twins that married and divorced sisters
lol
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
Oh, string theory...
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 21, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
just because....
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Jul 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yes!
That’s excellent.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw this once
It made me laugh then and it’s made me laugh now.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Good God the Astros suck
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions
Here's a really interesting thread
I don’t know from where, but it’s from a prisoner who just got out of prison, and he started a thread about what it was like from the inside.
Note: There’s a lot of graphic items in there, so don’t read it if you freak out easily
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
is this safe for work?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Visually, yes. It's just text
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Well, and an ad for "The Other Boleyn Girl" but nothing illicit
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
thats some pretty interesting shit
by mick311 on Jul 21, 2010 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow
great read. this would make a good book. I’m always amazed by people who can experience something (dramatic or mundane) and then regurgitate the experience in a interesting, meaningful fashion.
Yeah, there was one on the porn industry too
I think the guy was named Tyler Knight, and it was on Tucker Max’s forums
Or maybe not. Here’s the link to an MMA forum
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
you should read
It is full of stuff like that. No offense to VEB but it is my favorite web site
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah get the hell up outta here!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
lol interwebs
It appears to be someone on TeamLiquid (a Starcraft clan/forum/community) quoting — I think — a user from 4chan.
Plan 1
Slider away
Slider away
Slider away
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Lineup tonight
Lopez 3B
Winn CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Craig RF
Molina C
Miles 2B
Carpenter P
Ryan SS
Ugh…
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
This looks familiar.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
damnit nvm
Lopez 3B
Jay RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Rasmus CF
Schumaker 2B
Molina C
Garcia P
Ryan SS
My bad
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
I like that better
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too
I was ready to punch a hole in the wall if we saw Winn and Miles starting again.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
except Craig needs to be at second instead of Schu
if he’s played third he can give 2nd a try, I say
/because anyone can play 2nd
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
UZR would disagree overall
but my eye agrees with you. I would like that too, except that Craig’s arm is so weak he can’t even throw it that far. at least, that’s what Tony must think?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Very nice! I like it....
The funny thing is though over the past few weeks the lineups all of us have hatred the most have faired the best..
by mick311 on Jul 21, 2010 4:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It doesn't have Miles
GOOD LINEUP
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
here's a towel
in the shape of a LOBster
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i'm so happier much.
although why is Sch batting before Yadi? that’s a little odd
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Oh that's an improvement
Good to see Clobbers in there. Hope his leg stays attached.
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It has Miles
BAD LINEUP
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
phils lineup
Polanco 3B, Victorino CF, Francisco LF, Howard 1B, Werth RF, Rollins SS, Ransom 2B, Ruiz C, Blanton P
Francisco? Is he good?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Book it.
4-4, 2 2B, HR, 5 RBI
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
KLo
BJRains Kyle Lohse on the mound at Busch Stadium, throwing a simulated game. The hitters are Skip Schumaker, Aaron Miles and Jason LaRue. #stlcards 14 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That ought to build his confidence pretty quickly.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
damn
I want to see that
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
updatey update
MatthewHLeach Holliday, Wainwright, Carpenter among the spectators for Lohse’s sim game. #stlcards 41 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Carp will find a tell
..and we’ll discover that there was nothing wrong with his forearm — just tipping pitches
Just win
So, Lohse is throwing a simulated no-hitter?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
BJ Rains tweet
Austin Wilson is here at Busch Stadium and in uniform. Cardinals trying to win him over like college recruiting trip
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
So it's
luggage from Carp, or a free ride to Stanford?
Repeal The LaRussa Tax.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jul 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
pics or it didn't happen
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He looks goooooooooooooood in a Cards uniform, doesn't he?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
He's got that Brian Barton thing working for him
/not a racist comment
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
what?
he looks like an astronaut?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Baking pies as we speak
Let’s get this done people! Circle the wagons!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
ok someone with a twitter account has to ask about the pies
"I told myself from the very beginning: 'If he's going to throw a shutout, then he's going to tie,'" Wainwright said. "He was not going to beat me today."
can we call today austin wilson day?
And can Albert and him please hug out all the reasons he should sign here?
And can we please please please please please please please sign him. give the middle finger to Cox for asking for way too much, and then have two first rounders next year?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
Resident malcontented betamale
albert should have invited him to the all-star game on the charter
and had his agent aboard – maybe it would be an ncaa violation and he’d be ruled ineligible, have to sign.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Win him over Mo!
RT @BJRains Austin Wilson is here at Busch Stadium and in uniform. Cardinals trying to win him over like college recruiting trip.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
Micheal Bourne sucks.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
DP in order again.
gag
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Neither of these teams deserves to win.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
That was the nadir of the season.
(Let’s hope.)
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
this game makes me less freaked out about this weekend
no matter how much the Cardinals are kicking ass and how much the Cubs are sucking ass… I still get really anxious and freaked out whenever the Cubs and Cardinals play
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
His illegitimate brother Jason, though,
is awesome.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Dropping in to say
results are in, I have passed my boards and I am a board certified Doctor of Physical Therapy. I owe it all to my time spent on an anonymous internet blog avoiding studying and paying attention in class.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
by scoot on Jul 21, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
Hey, Doc, I've got this pain in my right hip. . . .
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Nice bro!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
So now you'll have more time to write.
May I suggest a review of the SLAP tear accredited to Ottavino and the pros/cons of rehab versus surgery.
Thanks in advance,
Selfish Robot
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
selfish robot
convince the missus to set up our internet service at home and you’ve got it
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
that should be your present for passing heh
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
congrats!
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Well done, scoot!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
new or old movie?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
go watch the fountain if you havent yet
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Predators was pretty good
here’s a few off the top of my head
Solaris (original version)
Equilibrium
Gattica
Minority Report
Children of Men was one of the best ones I’ve seen in recent times
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
usually sci-fi is better in book form though
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i just started re-reading hitchhiker's guide
so much better (in 2 chapters) than the movie
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I was going to recommend Equilibrium.
I would also recommend Sunshine.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Event Horizon was pretty cool
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I also really enjoy Omega Man, starring Chuck Heston. He could also rent the series Firefly and then the movie Serenity.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Firefly and Serenity were both great
if he wants to go crazy he can watch all the new battlestar galacticas (make sure to watch the pilot first)
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you have taken the time to watch the original series, too. It's quite enjoyable.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
when I saw it in the theaters years ago I thought it kicked ass
if I saw it again I may revise my opinion.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 22, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
None of these are exactly secret gems, but here are some recent sci-fis in my Netflix that I've liked,
in order of decreasing likeyness:
9
District 9
Moon
Children of Men
Neverwhere (BBC miniseries of the Gaiman book)
The Lost Room
Hancock
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
oh crap
I knew there was something I was forgetting. District 9 was the best!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
wait, 9 is your favorite?
the cartoon one? i was really disappointed in that. district 9 was my favorite film last year though. much better than avatar.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
'twas my favorite movie of '09 as well
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean I like Will Smith as much as the next guy...
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
for sure
plus he’s not a very good actor
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i, robot was alright
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
And he doesn't have to cuss in his raps to sell records
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 22, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was pretty good - I certainly didn't feel like I'd just thrown away two hours
of my life after watching it. But in that list, the biggest gaps in likeyness are probably between District 9 and Moon, and between The Lost Room and Hancock. (The Lost Room was pretty corny by the way, but it was also a lot of fun.)
by BTown Birds fan on Jul 21, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I've heard the Moon is good from a couple of people, so I'll have to check it out
thanks for the reccomendations
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I still have to check that out
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If I'd have read to the bottom, I wouldn't have needed to type anything.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
it's been a while
but i don’t remember thinking it was all that good
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
It got mixed reviews from my friends.
I thought it was one of the better movies I’ve seen. I had very low expectations though.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
The Running Man
Starring the Governator
based on the Stephen King short story
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
oh hell yeah
I have that in my dvd collection.
Total Recall too
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
have you read running man?
It’s a great story. Published under the pseudonym Richard Bachman. The Long Walk is a good futuristic Bachman short story too.
I love Stephen King shorts. They really showcase his talent without also showcasing his ability to write REALLY LOOOONG books.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
i wouldn't necessarily call the long walk a short story
that was more of a full length novel wasnt it? (at least from what i remember when i read it)
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah you're right
I read it in “”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bachman_Books" target="new">The Bachman Books" so I think of it as a short story since it was a part of a (very) larger book when I read it.
It was still short by King standards though. Ever read the unabridged Talisman, It, or The Stand?
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
How has nobody mentioned Children of Men?!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This is a joke, right?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Oh god I didn't read everything properly
Disregard, all
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Independence Day
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 22, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Bladerunner, if you've not seen it. My favourite movie, probably.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Here come the DisAstros!
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Good grief...talk about driving people to a site with a headline...
only to have really shitty and lazy analysis when you arrive.
Perhaps it would be better to do your homework Dave!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Too bad the commenters are eating it up
Whatever, I’m sure it will just be lost in the other 15 posts they will have up by the end of today.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe they are all mariners fans
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
just eat up anything dave says
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
I think we'd be freaking out too
if all of a sudden Waino’s BB/9 and xFIP doubled over the course of two months as a cause of his fastball velo dropping 3-4 mph.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Well, for one
LIncecum’s fastball has actually been better this month than it’s been all season, and secondly, his seasonal xFIP is just as good as it’s ever been despite lower velocity all season.
Dave basically cherry picked one start (in which the velocity data was suspect) and then cherry picked monthly xFIP splits to prove his point.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I see
it takes a sabermetician to know when another sabermetician is blowing smoke
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
dave cameron isn’t a sabermetrician.
St. Louis Cardinals -- 2006 World Champions
by greenback06 on Jul 21, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, he is such a bull shitter
Can’t believe he got elected
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh. Rec'd for truth.
/politics.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 22, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
what's the issue?
the dude’s velocity plummeted, that isn’t worth writing about?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
but it hasn't
Nick Steiner says:
July 21, 2010 at 5:59 pm
Before his last start, his fastball velocity had been way up from where it was at the beginning of the season:
http://www.fangraphs.com/fgraphs/5705_P_FA_20100715.png
And even in his last start, it was higher according to BIS than it was according to the Pitch f/x data you quoted. If you look at the other starting pitcher that game (Kershaw), his fastball averaged 91.5 MPH compared to a seasonal average (per FanGraphs) of 92.8. The other pitchers I checked for that game (Broxton, Kuo, Casilla) were also well down from their season velocity. I’d estimate the Pitch f/x gun for that game was running cold by at least 1 MPH.
Overall this year, Lincecum’s average fastball velocity is 91.5 this year, which is less than 1 MPH slower than last year. His xFIP on the season is 3.38, which is about .10 points higher than his career average. His strikeout rate is 9.53, about .5 points lower than his career average.
In short, I really don’t how you could come to the conlcusion that it’s time to "commence worrying" unless you are putting a lot of weighted on his July xFIP split. I don’t see how that is warranted.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
It hit the bull.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Warning to Adam Wainwright
there are risks involved in learning the Lincecum change.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
That's embarrassing
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
BETTER TRADE HIM TO THE CARDS, SINCE HE IS DONE
WE HAVE ANY LEFTY FIRST BASEMEN LEFT?
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
No way.
We want this to shred the Chicago pen for the weekend, even with tomorrow’s off-day for them. I want a 20-inning marathon of ineptitude.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Good lord...
this sound, right now, on WGN….“Let’s go Cubbies…”
is EXACTLY what I don’t want to hear on Saturday.
like... what do you mean?
like beats or just the sampled drum sounds?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
more along the lines of sampled drum sounds
by LandSickness on Jul 21, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I just need a file that I can manipulate and loop for this project I’m working on
by LandSickness on Jul 21, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
if you're trying to make music
you’ll probably need more than a wav file with drum samples.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
im going to internet kill you if GD says that this isn't right
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
YAY
you are internet safe now zoomzoom
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
well we have had it before where hopes were up then dashed to pieces
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
so are they 10 games under? or 9?
i dont know if GD has updated the records
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Cubs jerk the football away from their fans once again.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
living with a cubs fan makes it kinda sad
kinda
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Jul 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Heh
Kitten Riding a Tortoise (youtube)
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
Leaving work, gonna head to the game.....
Weather doesn’t look too promising…
by mick311 on Jul 21, 2010 6:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
About an hour ago it looked like the thunderstorm
Would pass through by gametime but now it looks like there’s another big storm around springfield right now that might screw up this game
by mick311 on Jul 21, 2010 6:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Strasburg goes for the Nats
maybe CIN loses?
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Ha haven't seen a MLB player look that scared of a pitch that was almost a strike
Not afraid to nitpick
nice curve
and 1-2-3 inning for Stras
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
He's the most fun pitcher I've ever seen
In the same inning, he made Cabrera jump out of the way in fear of his life and then sawed him off, made Votto swing at a change that probably hit the plate and then watched a curve right down the middle—-and his slowest 2-seamer was 97. Outrageous.
Not afraid to nitpick
Not Felix a few years ago, though
Remember against the Red Sox a few years ago in Dice-K’s debut? Fastball sat 97-99, slider in at 90, change up around the same
Now his fastball sits at a comfortable 94-96, with everything else scaled down a bit too
I’m guessing Ubaldo will go the same route, and Strasburg as well in a few years
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I remember what you are talking about and the gun that night was totally juiced
Strasburg throws ~2 mph harder on average than Felix ever did.
Not afraid to nitpick
And his offspeed pitches are an improvement
Felix’s curve has -6 inches vertical, 4 inches horizontal. Felix’s have -8 vertical, +8 horizontal. Felix’s change has -6 horziontal, +3 vertical. Strasburg’s change has 0 vertical, -6 horizontal.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Felix' slider is pretty effin dirty
But Strasburg throws a lot harder and has a better changeup.
Not afraid to nitpick
Hawks has to hold his own umbrella.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Rumor: Oswalt will only go to a team willing to pick up his $16mm option for 2012
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Oh, just that then Roy?
I mean, just sort of toss in that $16M option?
Roy: If you wouldn’t mind, team X’s GM. It would be kind of you!
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 21, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruben Amaro signed
Baez to a multi-year deal.
Ibanez to a three-year deal.
Howard to a ridiculous extension.
Polanco to a three-year deal.
Moyer to a two-year deal.
He’s dumb enough to do it.
looks like
nolasco is starting to pop up in rumors as an available pitcher. hopefully this will draw mo’s attention to him!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
EVERYBODY TRY THIS RIGHT NOW
It’s like having a superpower. WHILE DOING LAUNDRY
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I would be shocked if there was anyone on the internet
That hasn’t seen that 1000 times now. But yes, it’s cool and all that.
Mind. Blown.
And yes I tried it. And yes i failed.
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
Resident malcontented betamale
lol craig paquette
how much did he get paid after that year?
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
Resident malcontented betamale
Orel says Strasburg is pitching so hard, it's ripping apart his clothes.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
beat me to it
I’ve never heard that explanation before. I’ve seen Waino and Carp have their top few buttons undone, but never really knew it was because of the mechanics of pitching. Really cool!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Bobby V's voice is so irritating
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
how in the hell anyone thought it was a good idea to have him call games
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
I have the utmost respect for the guy due to the fact
that the guy is practically a god in Japan, but the last place the guy should be is behind a microphone
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I think he might just be the worst broadcaster ESPN has ever had
and that’s quite a statement
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
I seriously think he is worse than Morgan
Morgan has moments when he makes sense, I’ve yet to reach that conclusion with Bobby
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
So what kind of lineup can we expect with the series won and an 8-game streak?
Does Fredbird play 3rd?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
does he have a better arm than craig?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
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