Game 94 Open Thread: Phillies at Cardinals
by DanUpBaby on Jul 20, 2010 7:44 PM EDT
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With hym ther rood a gentil Pytcher
Of Phyledelph, his freend and his compeer,
That streight was comen fro the court, no loyer.
Ful loude he soong "'tis I, Jayme Moyer!"
The Phillees bar to hym a stif burdoun;
Was nevere a pytcher so greet or old aroun.
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I <3 Chaucer
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
I'm old and happily married but
the English teacher in me might be in love with your internet persona :P Yay for Chaucer.
I liked Chaucer
But I hated reading Middle English, so I had a hard time enjoying it.
Took a whole class of Middle English texts, too. That was miserable. Stupid major requirements.
its one of those things that always seems bizarre at first thought but after you think about it makes a lot of sense.
job creation, etc.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Or half the pumps in the 80's
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
lineups
phils: rollins SS, polanco 3B, ibanez LF, howard 1B, werth RF, victorino CF, ruiz C, valdez 2B, moyer P
birdos: lopez 3B, winn CF, pujols 1B, holliday LF, craig RF, molina C, miles 2B, c. carpenter P, ryan SS
Skip a late scratch?
listed at 2b on Gameday
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
...
Skip Schumaker is out of Tuesday’s lineup against the Phillies due to discomfort in his left wrist.
Schumaker jammed the wrist while making a diving play during Monday’s game. Consider him day-to-day for now. Aaron Miles will start at second base in his place and bat seventh against Jamie Moyer.
this hurts
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
what did Clobby do this time to get sat
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
LHP
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
i thought we had gotten over that
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
seriously, can i just yet again point out the insanity
that we are sitting THE BEST OFFENSIVE CENTER FIELDER IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL FOR RANDY F. WINN
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
he has a sore hammy
and has not played well at all since the break
let him sit
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
didn't realize the hammy was still sore. this was the info i was looking for, thx
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
even so
there’s no reason Jon Jay shouldn’t be playing instead. Except for some meaningless matchup.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
seriously, he's looked awful the past few days
pleasenoDLpleasenoDLpleasenoDLpleasenoDLpleasenoDLpleasenoDLpleasenoDLpleasenoDL
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
au contraire
pleasedon’tbeactuallyhurtpleasedon’tbeactuallyhurtpleasedon’tbeactuallyhurtpleasedon’tbeactuallyhurt
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
He's not allowed to play against players who pitched before he was born
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
er, at least offered him a contract
he’d be insane to turn it down, if he still wants to play.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
VEB poll: who's older than Moyer
not me—he’s got me by a few months
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
+1
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
yeah
just saying Jamie’s more than twice as old as me as well.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
I'm older than half his age
But he could legally drink alcohol when I was born
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if Moyer uses Bengay to get 2 more mph on his fastball.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Speaking of
This guy passed away today
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 20, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Perfect guy for the part too.
He passed away a few days ago though.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
The Phillies fans are all
giddy about something.
Also, they weren’t kidding about Ruben Amaro being smug. To wit:
"I think we know exactly what we’re going to do," Amaro said. "I just choose not to tell you."
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
of course they're giddy
their balls are in the air.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
That sounds like a Joe Strauss quote
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminder for others, like me, out of the region:
Extra Innings on Comcast is still free. Cards are on.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Is their combined wOBA less than Albert's?
What about their combined OPS?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Tripp Cromer and Scotty Hemond would like a word with you.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Winn, Miles, Boog,
and this version of Molina on offense makes me wanna cry
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
Was it before you were born?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, he was considered finished at that point.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Moyer looks like he's supposed to be Carp's dad.
Also, I LOVE me some vintage boog! looked good on that play
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
sit. down.
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
ludwick
Welcome back Ryan Ludwick! First AB, two-run homer over the Memphis bullpen, 2-0 Birds in the first. (memphis redbirds twitter)
sweet!
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
...wick
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Speaking of BBQ
I had some customer come in town asking for some good BBQ. Sent them to Pappy’s. They ended up running into Wainwright and Franklin there.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 20, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Thud
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ludnut!
RT @memphisredbirds Welcome back Ryan Ludwick! First AB, two-run homer over the Memphis bullpen, 2-0 Birds in the first.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Jul 20, 2010 8:20 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
f'in zoomzoom...beat you to it.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Some crazy rumors flying around in Philly
A trade tweeted by Rob Kuestner of CSNPhilly.com is Roy Oswalt to Philly, Jayson Werth to an unnamed team, with that unnamed club sending prospects back to Houston.
from philliesnation.com
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Is Jayson Werth a Type A?
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
well, there are those rumors about Werth
and Utley’s wife
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
yeah, those lousy .380 wOBA hitters with great defense
Boy he must have really fucked Utley’s wife.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it would be pretty dumb
to let a little cold streak force Philly’s hand.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Werth is signed to a better contract IIRC
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
cots confirms you are correct
here’s a cookie
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Say they get an extra win out of the move
that’s reasonable.
I don’t know who would replace Werth, but Oswalt is likely replacing someone pretty bad.
yeah
part of this depends on who’s going to be taking Werth’s place. A rotation with Halladay, Oswalt, and Hamels in it is pretty intimidating….
Okay, so it's not that bad
I had thought Werth was signed for a couple more years.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know how much it will help them actually make the playoffs
but it will pay big dividends if they get there.
ya....unamed team is probably SD.....
heh heh heh.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Probably on Oswalt's "Do Not Want" list
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
A month ago, I would have said the Yanks.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
well, the Yanks do have the connection w/the 'Stros
Pettitte
Clemens
Oswalt?
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
SD needs an outfield bat
a lot more than they need a pitcher.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
SD wouldn't need much offense if they had Oswalt.
I think the main motivating factor is the team getting Werth is strapped for cash.
at this point
I think Roy just wants to get the fuck out of Houston. I bet he’d waive his NTC if he’s going to a contender.
wow
and you think Phillies fans were angry when they flipped Lee for Halladay, just wait for this one
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
If I had a nickel for everytime someone has said this....
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
carlos ruiz
is not yadier molina
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
On the road to Cantebury and hopefully to victory . . .
Sweet liquor . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Craigression: Engage
almost
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Hmmm, Allen Craig got screwed again
Let me look shocked for a second.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Craig another attum ball. . . He's due for some Texas League hits . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Miles stole them all.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
one thing about jaybird and milk carton
they are both showing a pretty good eye at the plate
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
everytime i see holliday now i think about my dream
i hate it.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Dream?
…did it involve sexy Legos?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
and a hammock
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
I want sexy legos to be real
never really considered myself a nerd until this moment
by YesWeOquendo on Jul 20, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking person/Lego erotica
But I expect that I’ve already been beaten to that, too. There are no original porn ideas.
not really. he worked at my firm but he was also still a pro baseball player
and he told me he was embarrassed about his HR derby performance while we sat on a hammock. i think we were having an affair, but (thankfully) there was no affair-type conduct in my dream. or else i blocked it out.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
That looks more like Lego bondage
that’s tonight’s dream
by YesWeOquendo on Jul 20, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I've had odd dreams since I saw Inception.
Last night’s dream was about Lady Gaga, who I don’t listen to or follow. She wanted me to go on tour with her and keep her company because she thought I was funny.
Regression, bitches.
this is a better dream than mine. even though i don't like lady gaga
i wonder, if she showed up in my dream, would i even recognize her?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
a big nose and hardly any clothes.
probably.
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
nah, I don't think you're funny
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
maybe it was me
women dreaming about me…it’s been known to happen!
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
i have been trying, believe me.
i might resort to just staring at pictures of him before bed. i wonder how my boyfriend would feel about that…
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Anyone know why Greene is benched in favor of Ryan?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
bruise on hand
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
Left side of the infield is an injury magnet . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Wolves
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Okay, look, I know that ball was hit hard
But seriously…how many times is Miles going to get hit IN THE GLOVE by a balland not catch it?
Phillies game plan: Try and hit it directly at Aaron Miles.
It will probably work.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
$99.99
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
i like double plays that avoid miles
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Werth is a really good right-handed power bat
But scouts have long been critical of his sense of direction.
what I meant was
I wonder if there’s a way to track what fraction of a team’s DPs are 5-4-3, 6-4-3, 4-6-3, 3-6-3, etc.
He probably thought that
Albert stepped on first before he threw to second.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Jayson Werth doesn't understand the force out
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 20, 2010 8:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So is Moyer out?
Rooney was saying someone’s warming in the Phil’s pen
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Yeah.
Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.
by Whiteyballer on Jul 20, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions
that was actually a smart play by werth
he was out by a mile at 2nd, so run back to 1st in case albert touched the bag before the throw
The Other Carpenter
was just called up to replace Kendrick (to be their long man.)
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Moyer should have been more efficient in the 1st
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 20, 2010 8:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I was about to say
Manuel screwing TLR’s lineup
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Needed a nap.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
what
did finishing the game interfere with moyer’s bingo night or something?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Aaron Miles--accomplished foul ball hitter
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Gout
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is gout an old person leg disease?
I wasn’t sure. Went for it anyways. Should have gone with vericose veins.
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, young'uns can get it too.
Too much uric acid. Hurts like hell.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Just noticed your sig.
God I hate Ricky Horton.
Regression, bitches.
by spants on Jul 20, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's probably the best thing you can say about Aaron Miles as a baseball player though
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
It took a pretty special quote for me to bump ladies love it
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they'd work together
in a funny yet infuriating way
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
Of course
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ummm no thank you.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jul 20, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuckin' Miles
How does he work?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
GRIT
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
And the soon to be optioned Allen Craig
weeps
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Apparently, he gets up in the morning
and puts on his pants, one leg at a time.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 20, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
okay
that would have been a lot funnier if I’d managed to include the correct pronoun and more p’s….
No no
I think it’s funny just the way it is.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jul 20, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
"has hit safely in all six starts."
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
(Keep this tidbit away from Tony)
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Just one more twinkie...
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I have some twinkies from the seventies in the garage
maybe i should mail them to the booth?
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
I hate twinkies
if they were Suzy Q’s, they would already be in my tummy
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
Lobster for everyone :(
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
well skip prob wouldnt of been able to start tonight anyway, I have a feeling if this kid started Tony prob might of started Jay over Craig but
Rasmus was struggling and I bet there was a good chance Tony would have sat him for Winn anyway. At least Winn is hitting left handed though.
plus Colby's leg could still be bothering him
I’d prefer Jay in there over Winn but I’m ok with not pushing it with Colby. in other news, the bench is strong tonight haha
Three LOBsters in two, Moyer to the Gatesworth - Hell of a start to the game. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on Jul 20, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You could see it was way high out of his hand
And I was mostly shocked that Albert almost caught it somehow. I was sure it was going sailing into the stands.
ok that's a start
but that’s a simple throw. I could see him struggling with the required reflexes at 3b, or reading the ball off the bat, but that was routine
you think Lopez' fairly non-chalant throw is akin to Ankiel litany of issues?
i call BS, sorry but that’s a terrible comparison
I would classify that as a physical error
A mental error is throwing to the wrong base, not being in place for a cutoff, swinging at a bad pitch on 3-0.
A high throw is a physical error. Avoidable, yes, but not as damnable as a mental error, in my opinion. Bad throws happen.
unless it's due to a lack of focus...
not that we can know that at this point, though Al seemed to think so
hmm…that’s probably a point against it haha
I mean, the brain is always involved to some degree
An error is, by definition, avoidable, so most errors involve a lack of focus or poor judgment. I still think that a bad throw on a routine play is a “physical” error.
Why pitch out there?
I don’t get it.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
Ludwick first at bat 2 run homer in Memphis
by mick311 on Jul 20, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Allen Craig, please report to pre-game IF practice....
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Is Chris Carpenter gonna have to luggage a bitch?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
And then Miles for the extra base.
Plenty of failure to go around there.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
but i thought he was super savvy veteran king of grit?
can you imagine the reaction by the dugout if a young player had done that?
Lopez/Miles for the WINN
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
bright side...he's finally done something to get in tony's dog house
I'm like a polygon, I'm edgy.
Resident malcontented betamale
That should be enough to get his ass jerked.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Can anyone explain what just happened for those of us on gameday?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Miles is so tiny he couldn't catch Boogs throw and touch first base.
So the pitcher was safe. Then, he sulked and the runner advanced to third on him.
Regression, bitches.
zomg
Wah wah
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It was such an overdone sulk that I'm surprised Charlie Brown Christmas music didn't start playing.
Regression, bitches.
by spants on Jul 20, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Literally sounds to me like a little league move
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
bunt with 1st & 2nd
throw to Boog covering 3rd for out relay to Miles at 1st pulled the midget off the bag. Miles than hung his head and the runner took third
bunt with runners on 1st/2nd. Molina gets the lead runner at 3rd.
ryan throws a little off line and low to 1st, miles is covering 1st and can’t pick the ball.
MOPES AROUND LIKE A BITCH and the runner at 2nd goes to 3rd.
Wow
Al just explained pretty much exactly how that play went down without really being critical of Aaron Miles.
he did say he wasn't paying attention
the tone wasn’t rookie fuckup-ish, though
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
Yeah
“Miles puts his head down, runner takes third on heads-up play.”
That’s it, really? Miles just handed the Phillies an extra base. Inexcusable.
Miles didn't give the base away
Valdez took it!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
If Ryan had done that
Al would have ran down to the field and drop-kicked him. Cause he’s not a PROVEN VETERAN
by PeterStork670 on Jul 20, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
take miles out of the DP equation
and look how well it works
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
Can Carp and Miles get into a dugout scrap?
No biting allowed either
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
wouldn't be much of a fight
Carp will just do the thing where he puts his hand on Miles’ forehead and holds him back while Miles flails away at the air….
Dammit
(Our) Carp exceeded his pitches/inning average by 22% in the 3rd.
Yadi: The fastest of all the Molina brothers.
is the miles play at first
more on boog or miles? the rest was on miles, but what about the throw?
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
No out at first on Boog, wide throw.
Runner advancing third on Miles, apparently forgot he was playing a baseball game.
Miles footwork was wrong
using the proper foot Miles should have been able to stretch and make the out.
Throw was pretty low and wide
I’m okay with Miles coming off the bag to keep the ball in front of him. But letting the runner go to third was amazingly bad.
right foot on the base and a stretch
and he makes the play. He was using his left foot (glove side) which is not what you do when covering first because that method shortens the stretch
it's kind of hard to spontaneously play a new position
I don’t fault him for not making the play, but forgetting the game was going on was annoying.
....and that has nothing to do with keeping your head in the fucking play
and not forgetting there were two runners on.
winndingo
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well ok Randy Winn...
Just bought himself more time on the roster…
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
head essplode
for the winn
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
WINN
Courtesy of TLR, sooooper genius.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I think we could trade Randy Winn to the Braves and sell his Phillies-killer abilities
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
cloby who?
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
too bad lopex has to start @ third
He’s our best hitting second baseman
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions
SHUT UP ABOUT HOW GOOD STAVINOHA IS. PLEASE.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
lol wut
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
dan and al being unbelievably stupid
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
So I figured
I think if I listened to them every night I’d be lol wut’ing a ton
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
instead of Redrum,
his head says “Nick Stavinoha is a Professional Hitter.”
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
wow
that’s actually impressive
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
GAAAR!! Randy Winn be going yard
sorry, there’s just something about his batting stance that makes me think he’s a Pirate, like an actual Pirate, not a Pitt. Pirate
woot
I get the feeling that he’s trying to prove to me personally that he doesn’t suck.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
dammit
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Right on cue......
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Winn homerun - Craig run home to Memphis. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
i like Winn too, as a 4th OF
the problem is, we have more than a few of those, and he’s starting. if we didn’t have Jon Jay, Stav (ugh), or Craig, i’d be insanely happy to have Winn as our 4th OF.. but we do.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Moyer left elbow strain.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Left elbow (disintegration)
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Left elbow (fossilization)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Maybe hurt it at home. His house is for sale in Magnolia - easy to spot - has a batting cage in front.
Bargain at $7 million
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
This could be the immortal Moyer's last game
it’s like Dumbledore dying
by YesWeOquendo on Jul 20, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
That belongs in Cooperstown
Or Ripley’s believe it or not
This player is OPS’ing a lucky .639!!!!!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
there goes another winndinger
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
Prince
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 20, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wait no Cecil
Fuck I can’t pick
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 20, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It must be Drew Carpenter's reputation
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
CDGAFABAS...
oh wait… wrong carp
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
F/x is showing crazy movement on that fast ball again.
Is it?
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
vis a vis what, exactly?
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Randy pissed about Moyer
leaving the game. Winn needs 14 more PA’s against LHP to first performance clause in his contract – $10K baby for 50 PA’s against LHP. He thought he’d rack up three tonight, but no, old guy has to pull something.
Now saying injured elbow for Moyer.
StanTheManFan
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Except when writing for this list.
strong possibility
what’s weird is that nobody noticed anything while he was out there, suddenly there was just somebody else pitching.
PLEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT BJ RAINS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah, seriously
starting to serrrriously get on my nerves
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Sorry if this is nexdef’d
Chicago Cubs manager Lou Piniella announced Tuesday that he will retire at the end of the season, ending a storied and often colorful career that included 18 years in the majors as a player and another 22 as a manager.
…
General manager Jim Hendry said former Cubs Hall of Famer Ryne Sandberg, now a minor league manager in Des Moines, will be a candidate for the job. He said Piniella’s replacement won’t be hired before the end of the season.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:04 PM EDT reply actions
i have no idea how good of a manager he actually is
but I like Lou, one of the most candid managers.
i dont really know how he was in his earlier years as a manager,
but i think he has been terrible for the cubs. he too often will blame the players without taking responsibility himself. and his in-game decision making is curious at best.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Was a players' manager in Seattle.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Yeah, everybody loves him here
Got a standing ovation when the Cubs came to town
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
interesting.
is he still considered that with chicago?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
In Seattle he had some players to manage.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
I like him too
But only because I have a lot of Cubs fan friends who got their hopes way up when he was hired and he failed miserably
The purpose of the exercise is to win the World Series
by Walking Underwear on Jul 20, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we're gonna send an outfielder in a trade
there’s just too damn many of them
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i feel like Craig is the only one who's worth anything though
and he’s my second favorite of the extra ones.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Jay has value also.
he is a superb fielder who can play all three OF positions. Makes up for a lot of the offensive differences between him and Craig.
sure
but i feel like he doesn’t have much value on the trade market because his ceiling isn’t so high
whereas Craig’s got a power ceiling that teams like.
i also think we need to trade DJ Tools, but that’s another store
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
truth
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
i think he was talking about Jay
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
and of course
no one will want winn or stav. see ya jay or craig
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
Aaron Miles has played OF before can we trade him?
I would literally give Miles and cash to a team
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i like that trade
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
I dunno, I feel like we're shortchanging the other team
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
only way i could see it being better is if you could trade MLB draft picks
Aaron Miles and cash for a future 50th round pick.
now THAT’s a fair trade
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
me too
he can ride the bench on my softball team.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
not that long
but we got a solid 1-1.5" in like 45 minutes. It poured. Whole lot of lightning. And if the storms are training, it may be a late night….now that we have a lead, gotta make sure this one gets to the 5th….
these are stout enough rainmakers
that I’d be concerned about the ability of the outfield to recover
the way the radar's looking
they’ll get the entire game in.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
heres a crazy idea: play lopez at 2nd, take a chance on craig @ third for a game or two, and let boog try and pick up the slack on D
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
honestly i support that idea
then jay in the OF ’til luddy gets back
Signatures are overrated.
by hr on Jul 20, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it makes too much sense to ever happen
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Somebody get me a Whitey bobblehead.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
"He'll stretch that into two."
You’re killin’ me Dan.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
and yes. I am here.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
similar to Molina's foot speed. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
So Miles hits like .850 on grounders and soft flyballs,
and gets his one liner caught. Baseball is a weird game sometimes.
Wainwright is a kick!
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Waino enjoyed that deeply.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"well he got that hit off Edwin Jackson" ... is that what he said?
damn, Waino must really have a free pass with Carp.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think he said a couole of hits.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
he was looking sideways the whole time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Waino giving Carp hell on his batting.
Carp sez eff you.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions
Carp is possibly the least enthusiastic batter in all of baseball
he always looks like one of those Southwest Airlines ads (wanna get away?)
my favorite is when he was squaring up to bunt
the pitcher was delaying, and Carp just held his stance and nodded his head back and forth like a bored preschooler.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
made more hilarious
by how fearsome/intense he is on the mound. The contrast couldn’t be any starker.
I have been chuckling about this pretty much since 2004.
i dont get it.
gameday has miles out on a lineout, but also says “pitcher Drew Carpenter to first baseman Ryan Howard.” ????
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Liner that the pitcher stopped
It was actually pretty hard hit
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
now i understand
thank
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
miles lined one off the lesser Carpenter
tis not even a flesh wound
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
WTF?
1. Wheres Moyer?
&
2. Who is this other Carpenter?
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
elbow pain, out after 1
on #2, no idea
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
elbow pain?
I guess when you throw as many innings over the years as Moyer it’s bound to happen.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
This IS a strange game to be coming in late on.
Lots of weird shit.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
...
moyer: out, left elbow strain
phillies’ carpenter: long reliever, called up when kendrick was sent down
Elbow trouble.
Impostor.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Randy Winn responsible for most of the runs.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
1. On the way to visit Frank Jobe, probably. :-(
2. Don’t ask, just enjoy.
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Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Jul 20, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yadi effin earned that one.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wooooooooooooo
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Brendan is very, very clear with his signs. in fear of luggaging.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hurry the fuck up and finish the inning already!
come on, 3 outs from Carp and we might win a short one….
yea you probably have at least an hour and half. its just now getting
to como
Great moments are born from great opportunity.
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i'd just like to say
Ryan F. Ludwick.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ya! Homer in Memphis.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
One more time: Cards game free on Extra Innings
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Why do I never find out about these things until so late?!
Is it through tomorrow?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ESPN.com poll
Which is a greater managerial accomplishment for Lou Piniella?
A. Winning World Series in 1990 with Reds
B. Winning record-tying 116 games with Mariners in 2001
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Just offhand, I'd think he had more to do with the 116.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Also
68% of ESPN.com voters said A
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Boooooooog.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
5 IP, 46 pitches
Take notes, Young Garcia.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
That is really impressive.... but the Phillies are quite a free-swinging team.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Would Lynn, Hawksworth and Boggs fetch Harren? Would you pull the trigger?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
AHAHAHahahahAHAHAhahaha no
but I’d pull that trigger faster than a Cheney
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I think if I was AZ
I’d ask for Garcia, which obviously hell no. I don’t think we’re likely to land Haren.
Why obviously hell no?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Taking on Haren's contract is probably in conflict with resigning Pujols.
But I wish that they’d trade for him anyway.
Regression, bitches.
Maybe we just need to.........
OPEN DEWALLET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
if they can figure out a way to absorb the payroll, and not overpay in terms of talent, then sure! Trade for Haren. But what are the odds that we can do both of those things?
Same thing goes for Oswalt, only Wade likely won’t want trade O within the division.
nolasco
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
because Garcia fills a rotation spot for peanuts for years to come
exceptionally important with APu coming due. i don’t think it actually has anything to do with taking on Haren’s contract, but instead losing a filled rotation spot for nothing.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
That's definitely nice about Garcia
I just don’t view it as “obviously hell no”
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
think about trading Wainwright in 06....
cheap, effective, healthy, young starters under club control are almost priceless.
exactly.
i’d argue Jaime right now (except for the minor caveat of injury risk) is as/more valuable to this team as even a Roy Halladay would be, because he’s SO cost-controlled, and it’s so important to us.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Ehhhhh
I guess I see the point. I just don’t view it as open-and-shut as you guys do.
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i would not trade Garcia except for
another cost controlled player
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 20, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Towel
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
he's at least going to get a cup of coffee in September right?
seems like everybody else from Memphis has been up this year….
I would think so, yeah
as long as he pitches better down the stretch. They wouldnt want to bring up Lynn if hes pitching badly in a pennant race
Was that a random MILF in a red dress in that baseball montage?
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
talk about little red dress.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
She was a long cool woman in a red dress...
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
phillies pen will be trashed by the end of this series
got to whoop blaton tomorrow so there’s no one left to follow hamels
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Nice time to catch the Philles in their follies. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
That was a TERRIBLE call!
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
That was a LOW strike call
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
.........................
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pregame Chili and Broccoli
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Hope he called doorknob
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Fart joke
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
WINNAR
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, look at you, stlfan.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Super ripper . . . good show . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Well done.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
reply fail.
SBN!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
post more often
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
I'm lovin' it.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
TWSS
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Yeah that pitch sucked
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm calling Craig ripping on here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
FUCK TYPO I TAKE IT BACK TAKE IT BACK
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Maybe Craig can only HR if he's somehow involved in a back-to-back
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
OMFG
I love this team right now.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
I'm concerned that the
team is to dependent on the HR for scoring runs.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
sort of true i guess.
the real problem is that half the damn lineup is pretty much an automatic out at this point. we need health more than anything.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Also, more regression (but only positive regression. none of that downward stuff.)
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
I know that no-one cares but:
Kendrick got sent down after the Crads whooped him yesterday, called up in his place? Drew Carpenter
yada
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Is fun to see Yadi regressing.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
I'm totally OK with the Cards scoring a lot of their runs by dongjackery.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
wow this is really enjoyable
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
I thought Rollins was faster than that
That looked Jeterian
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Albert doesn't play because he has a responsibility
he does it so he can make disgusting amounts of money
dan ‘n’ al are especially annoying tonight
And it's Cincy's money!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
That Miles sure is impressive.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Would be in contention for MVP of the Batvia Muckdogs. a proper placement in my judgment
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
quite gritty
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Listening to the Phillies dirge-like announcers wailing the blues . . . nice
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
lmao Wainwright face
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Attention Guys In The Truck:
Mic up Waino every single night.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i concur.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
he's so delightfully redneck
I love it.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Fine Cardinals' Care $99.99
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
with his hit earlier tonight,
carp probably needs to replace his luggage. its likely all wore out by now. hence, gidp.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
but i'm greedy, see.
mainly, i just love carp’s smug look when he gets on base. its great.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
So, just wondering
How many people are interested in having intercourse with this homestand so far?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jul 20, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Like, with more than one person?
I dunno man, sounds risky. We might catch a Stavinfection
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
he's on the DL
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Holliday blows a huge bubble.
Almost covers his face.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
all i know is gdm calls him Bubbles
that’s good enough for me
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
he said more than once he needed to be wrapped in bubble wrap.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yes...he came into the
clubhouse with his arm wrapped in bubble wrap once last season.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
all his limbs.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 20, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
gdm tweeted about it today
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
anybody else get
a homoerotic vibe when al is talking about holliday?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
LOL @ Holliday waving at the crowd
‘Oh hey bleachers, Oh hey left field seats’
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
please
impregnate my wife?
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on Jul 20, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp's curveball seems to have more horizontal movement tonight
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
wonder if it's the heat/humidity
seemed to me that Waino’s last start, his curve was even more gonzo than it usually is. Looked like he was trying to get it to go backdoor sometimes.
do not tempt them
already one injured vet starter
by YesWeOquendo on Jul 20, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice pick, Booooooog.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
Ankiel is rehabbing in Memphis too
he’s 0-2 with 2 K’s. Ryan followed up his homer with a K and a FO
What's Duncan doing?
Get the old gang back together!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i think Spiezeo is independent ball, trying to make a comeback
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
On the DL with Washington's AAA team.
And scuffling badly when he was playing.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The 18-8 team is back!
I love a sport where you can take 61 games off and still be perfectly fine shape.
Fire La Russa!
NBA?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Boog disagrees
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry if this has been asked and answered before, but...
Does anyone know what Carp has tattoo’d on his arm?
Testicle-exploding shit storms, to date: T.E.S.S. '08, T.E.S.S. '09, T.E.S.S. '10
It's a Devil swinging a Samsonite Carryon at a Unicorn
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
by TBender on Jul 20, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Family portrait a la zodiac
The new tattoo spreads over half the arm displaying his family via astrological signs. There’s a lion for his daughter, a Leo. A crab for his wife, a Cancer. An arch for his son, a Sagittarius. A bull for himself, a Taurus.
...Welp, there we have it I guess
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
the new one is on his leg, I think.
beginning of the season, it wasn’t done. Japanese carp.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also, Al is a fucking moron... again
With 2 outs and a 6 run lead you would absolutely rather see him try to make that play. The difference between a single and a triple is basically nothing, whereas the difference between a triple and an out is huge.
he would've been kissing Luddy's ass for the aggressitivity
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
Carp's pitch count tonight is like something from a video game
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Manomang!
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
I tell my kids that.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
BTW:
I think you’re the one who asked upthread — Yes, free Extra Innings goes through tomorrow night — but not every game is available every day. So it will at least be worth checking out.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
video great; audio ugh
in other words, where the h. is Mike Shannon.
Amidst this embarrassment of riches lately my ‘listening’ pleasure has taken a beating. Either put up with Hrabosky via MLB or grit my teeth over Clairborne.
I DID enjoy some of Singleton and Garciaparra last night, tho
6 IP, 59 pitches
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Al, that was the dumbest thing I've ever heard
“He’s been getting roughed up a little bit this year, because they don’t give him any run support!”
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Booog!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Dude you are whiffing a ton tonight
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn't that get awkward?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 20, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best damn lineup sporting 5 guys hitting under .250
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
preparing for the end of his pitching career by practicing for a possible change to DH
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
CF
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmm....
Family Guy – ‘Raaaaaaaaaaaaandy’ – ‘HA HA’
Picture reference not found.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
This literally made me lol
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Nobody likes a whiner, VEP
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This.
Wandymania is only for one person.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
albert go boom?
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
missed this half-inning
what’d I miss?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
AVENGE!
Lopex single, Winn flyout to center, Boog tagged up and went third.
And then that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
DSGJKLSDGJLKDSGJLK GODDAMMIT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I got 2.5 hours of sleep last night and my fiancee just left for the summer
Hold me =(
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Is that why you got 2.5 hours of sleep?
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
by vico on Jul 20, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
lulz
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
hahaha
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 20, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
A gentleman wouldn't ask
And a gentleman wouldn’t tell
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
we aren't gentlemen
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
In that case.
Yes. That’s exactly why I only got 2.5 hours of sleep.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DO HIT AND RUNS TONY
I garauntee Albert wouldn’t have swung on that if the runner wasn’t going.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
It's 3-2... Pujols is allowed to not swing
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
But he's going to be more inclined to swing if the runner is going
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Claiborne just said there was a swing em out strike em out DP
that was right after he said there were 178 games in a year.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
That suketh. . ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Wish he would just let people walk him sometimes...
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
but with a full count the hit and run wasn’t an issue. if you walk the runner is safe.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Guys - outta here - US embassy run. . . Bring home a winnar . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I can't wait until...
we have a manager that let’s the fifth best hitter in history hit the ball without meddling in the situation.
Fire La Russa!
he should have just taken it, it would have been ball four.
i dont see how this is on tony
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
agreed. no need to protect the runner when he could've walked.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
It's on Pujols too of course...
I just hate the constant overmanaging, especially when we have better players than everyone else.
Fire La Russa!
yeah, i can agree with the overall sentiment for sure
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Best shape of his career!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
Beat me to it.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Rooney: "a fan wants to know what your favorite song to do karaoke is, Mike"
Claiborne: “…….huh.”
Finally came up with Take Me Out To The Ball Game.
Sweet Caroline for me, bitches
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
My cousin was given a karaoke machine for Christmas one year.
That family Christmas was awesome. My brother sang Whip It and brought the house down.
Regression, bitches.
like a prayer, bitches
or rocket man
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
do you sing it like Shatner?
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
...and Im gonna be....
(takes a drag) HIGH as a kite by then…
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
definitely Space Oddity
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
My friend and I did a ridiculous rendition of Piano Man
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
thrilling
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey maybe the answer to solving the problems of the Phillies...
is to trade Chase Utley’s wife Jennifer….No? Spreading slanderous rumors not allowed? Ok.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
the family needs therapy
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Jennifer Utley has been getting lucky lately
her value is as high as its gonna be
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Her babip is through the roof
balls in… oh nevermind.
Fire La Russa!
by guayzimi on Jul 20, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
rec'd for tastelessness
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if shes interested in DPs.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Day in, day out, Albert plays his position well.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
We could send them a highlights reel.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
UZR is not a fan
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Effin' UZR
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
I call shenanigans on UZR
I was looking at that last night. There is just no way Pujols is costing the team runs on defense.
Huh?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
What did they say about UZR?
Who had the stones to talk to them about UZR?
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Some NY Times reporter kissed Texeira's ass about it
I think Tyler Kepner
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
the reason I checked
is cause I saw Holliday show up on the WAR leaderboard on the FG front page, and not Pujols, which made me wonder.
part of it is that it is only applicable in large doses,
like, for at least one full season. so, if uzr doesnt like what big al has done so far this year, no biggie.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Thats true, but the fluctuations are enormous from year to year
and the variance between the different systems is rather large. I dont think its entirely trustworthy.
And if that is the case as they say,
why do they calculate WAR with single season UZR data? Seems like a big flaw.
i agree
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
not that i think
they should use more than one year. but i think there should at least be another WAR stat with the UZR data heavily regressed to the previous 2000 innings or league average if sufficient data is lacking
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
its bizarre that with all the reservations SABR-inclined folks have about small sample sizes, fangraphs throws arguably their most important stat out there with very flawed partial-season UZR data. i don’t get it.
true.
though to be fair, i think most stats people are aware of the limitations of uzr, war, and other such stats. its definitely a problem when we use these too aggressively though, for example, when declaring a 4.2 war player clearly superior to a 3.9 one. its easy to do though.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
well, that's the whole trouble
isn’t that the whole idea behind WAR, to be able to better compare players?
which is why this would be good
instead of us looking at the WAR numbers and be able to say, this guy is being overvalued by UZR, so he’s not quite this good, we can have a solid number and a standard amount of scrutiny (regression) applied to all players. not because we’re trying to make it a predictive stat, i still want my WAR judging what happened, but because it’s about the only way to be more accurate. which is what any saber nerd is striving for
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is I see that all the time
even directly on fangraphs. Last year they had an article declaring Ben Zobrist more valuable then Pujols based on a slightly higher WAR; the problem was that his WAR was predicated on an obscenely high 22.8 UZR rating. They seemed to have no problem with this.
we all do it
i do, at least. that’s why i think it would be nice to have that defensively regressed WAR sitting right next to us to remind us of context
DRWAR we can call it. or drWAR
doctor war!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
fangraphs is only okay these days.
one thing that makes it hard to follow is that they have so many different contributors who value each stat differently, and also some contributors who compare a bunch of stats and then really dont say anything.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
They just need a Dave Allen graph every day
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
the only stat
that i really accept without much hesitation is wOBA. everything else needs some serious context.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
one thing that is strange about it though
is that the top pitchers war is always lower than that of top hitters. are we undervaluing pitchers, overvaluing hitters, or is it just that baseball innately values hitters more. i guess its hard to compare them as pitchers only play once every five days. but that their wars are so different has always bugged me.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
that may be,
but considering that greinke’s season was pretty historic and that he didnt break double digits is bizarre i think.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
I do
Some guys have BABIP talent, others are fluking into lower FIPs based on their parks.
Not afraid to nitpick
there's life outside of fangraph's pitcher WAR
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
not inherently
rWAR does. i don’t think fWAR does. might be wrong on the latter, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
generic run factors
Not home run factors, which would be the biggest differences in FIP.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
And even still
A flyball pitcher is going to be much more affected by that than a GB pitcher.
Not afraid to nitpick
I do, I don't like FIP for either value or predictive purposes
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
how do you feel about xFIP?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
not directed at me,
but i think it’s kind of a third tier stat
there are so many pitchers who are just good enough to outperform league average HR/FB, that you can’t look at, say, halladay or waino’s xFIP and be all, “oh, this is his true talent. he’s getting lucky”
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
how is it bad for predictive purposes
it correlates pretty well to next year ERA
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but not as well as xFIP or SIERA
And not nearly as well as a proper projection system.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
eh,
i never really read about SIERA beyond the article where it was introduced. and as above, i think xFIP sucks as a standalone stat. i’d rather have FIP or t(E)RA
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I mean, it depends
What are you looking for in a stat?
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a weird question
i look for different things in different stats. for true performance/talent, i’d go with FIP/tRA. for actual performance/value i’m gonna look at ERA compared to those two and rally WAR
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I can tell you that for true talent level purposes
xFIP and SIERA are going to be the best – actually the best is a projection system.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
could you be more specific?
how does a projection do better? i always imagined it would be harder, as you have to use previous stats to predict what will happen in the future.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
in what way?
are they shown to correlate to next year ERA better, or what?
just in terms of what makes the most sense to me, i think tRA is the best available with the caveat that i don’t remember what all SIERA accounts for and don’t even know where to find it, if possible
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
xFIP correlates to ERA in the next year better than both tRA and FIP
Because HR/FB over a single season doesn’t mean that much. It’s better to regress it 100% to the mean (xFIP) than 0% to the mean (FIP).
In reality it’s best to regress it like 70% to the mean, which is what a projection system will do, so the projection system is best.
tRA is actually less predictive than FIP (and way less predictive than xFIP) because pitcher LD% has almost zero y-t-y correlation.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don't like it because I don't really get what the coefficeints mean in themselves
So I can’t tell which types of pitchers it overvalues/undervalues. xFIP, I know exactly what it’s doing, so it’s agood baseline.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
The next wave of predictive/projection stuff is going to include velocity. I forget where I read it, but it was like 80% of a low velocity group coming from the minors underperformed their projections and 80% of a higher velocity group coming from the minors overperformed.
Not afraid to nitpick
just so everyone knows,
i love this blog. we have a great community here. we are spoiled. i am constantly reminded of this when i read comments on fangraphs in particular.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
You are so right.
conversations here are almost always civil, informed, and interesting, while still being vigorous and entertaining. It’s a fantastic community.
I love how we're so cool, we can even pat ourselves on the back and it doesn't sound too self-serving
oh wait
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Spendsome time on most other internet forums
and tell me this one isn’t head and shoulders better than most.
the bad thing
all the quality baseball talk has made me seriously neglect all the work that i was wanting to get done today
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
as bad days go
thats pretty damn good
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
has there been an off topic discussion all day?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
well, that depends
this subthread started off by talking about how Pujols’ WAR is getting brought down by an inordinately pessimistic UZR and then somehow got in to FIP…. ;)
It must have been here
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/improving-pitcher-projections/
Then some shmuck decided to build a projection system using Pitch f/x based similarity scores:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/projecting-hanson/
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That would be it
Not quite as resounding as I remember it for the high velo guys.
Not afraid to nitpick
And jesus that was a lot of work on Tommy Hanson
Ever try to pick up a girl with “hey baby, I wrote a PITCHf/x projection algorithm trying to predict a talented 2nd year pitcher, so yeah, kinda a big deal”?
Not afraid to nitpick
No, I just show her the size of my database
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it's the not the size of a man's database
it’s the skill with which he employs it
by nota bene on Jul 21, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, right. That's what the little ones say.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
contreras
wow hes old…might be older than moyer..
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
you can take the team out of the AL
but you can’t take the AL out of the team….
by nota bene on Jul 20, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
no more Craig :(
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Ank update in Memphis game
three K’s in rehab game on a total of 16 pitches. Eight swings and misses, two fouls and six balls.
Ludwick pulled for Shorey after three PAs
looks like he's in midseason form
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Well when you foul pitches off and look at strikes, thats what you are gonna get...
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
yes, he did hit that pitch =)
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
i was about to post that exact comment (without the smiley)
/brain twin’d
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
i always thought it was only used in regards to a really hard fastball.
never heard it wrt hitting.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
'High Stinky Cheddar'
Rosenbagger, you’re up.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
A Colby nickname, Colby being a kind of cheese.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
i hope he does.
no reason to have carp pitch anymore, imo.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
I agree, except for not tiring the 'pen, but I'm not sure how hard they've been worked.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
quick, where is brad thompson?
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
that's not true.
dayton moore = worst gm in baseball.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
Probably not I'd say.
Not scoring a run here wouldn’t hurt us much, and he has an inning or two left in him.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
do we have any unhurt pinch hitters left?
by YesWeOquendo on Jul 20, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
the stros suck. cubs just came back from 7-0. 7-7 now.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 20, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Cubs winning a few for Lou.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
WHAT IS THIS DIVISION
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jul 20, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I DON'T EVEN
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
only 89 pitches. and a five run lead isn't that big. i'd leave carp in the for the cg.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 20, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd give him the rest
he will need it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm jus not fan of pulling guys who are cruising and have the lead just to get guys in the bullpen work
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 20, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't care about work for the pen
i care about rest for an injury prone starter who is a vital part of this team. the team doesn’t need him to finish the game. they need him fresh for the next start when he doesn’t get so much support
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
well, i'd be ready to put someone in if he started to get hit
i don’t think saving 11 pitches means anything. i’m fine with it since he had to bat, but wouldn’t have done it had he not been scheduled to bat
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 20, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it means enough in the july heat that i'm not worried about it
this lead isn’t going to be given up. and if it is, it’s one of those bizarre things you just have to take
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
with garcia tomorrow
ehh i would keep carp in for the ninth…in case a fresh bullpen is needed
Signatures are overrated.
Rejected contract....
Unheard of option…
WONDER HOW THIS WILL PLAY OUT…
I stood where no man goes...
27
It was designed so he’d retire when he was 37-38 and thus the cap hit over the 10 year contract goes from 10M to 6M/year. There have been similar contracts, but they only took players till they were 42. Kovalchuk will not be playing when he is 44 with 100% certainty.
Not afraid to nitpick
Guess Tony told him...your off the hook chalk.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
But Reyes?
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Porkchops w/ Habnero Salsa...
MMMMM.
You fit into me
like a hook into an eye
a fish hook
an open eye
Ow.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
Been some strange happenings in this game.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Heads up down there in the corner Phillies
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
lolol
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha that one dude who had his hands up like
“Not interfering!”
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
tampa and BAL
9-9, Pit Mil 11-9..chi hou7-7….NFL?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
So the Reds/ Nats game is delayed by rain in the bottom of the 5th...
any chance it gets rained out? They haven’t yet completed 5 full innings….
Does that matter with a Reds home game?
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Nope. Game is official.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Thought so.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
RANDY WINN IS AWESOME
/SSS
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
And its Randy Winn buying out Stavinoha's portion of the Cardinals OF Timeshare
/crosses fingers
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
To resort to a cliché, no way.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
soooooo we have a six run lead
Carp is finished.
Is Yadi sitting?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you smokin', boy?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep seeing Randy Winn
the third baseman only has one hand!
what is this shit
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 20, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Squatting.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
DFA Randy Winn he is old and therefore cannot be good!
Oh…wait…
(yeah yeah small sample size and all that yada yada yada)
by lopey986 on Jul 20, 2010 10:45 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
oh yeah?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
what makes you say that?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the trade rumours, probably
apparently oswalt for werth is what’s going around.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
interesting
seems stupid enough for the astros to do it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
three team deal, more than likely
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
or something with Haren
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
okay, i give up. i have no hyperlink insertion skills
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/phillies-discussing-major-trade.html
Optimism carried too far becomes dementia.
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 20, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
im not trusting it til it happens
course its not olney..
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Jul 20, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
nasty
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Beautiful.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Salsa with my chicken
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
WOO
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Sexy Salsa
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
i thought it was down to 5, need to win 3 of 4 for free August weekday outfield reserve tickets?
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jul 20, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This team is just cruising right now.
Finally they are playing up to their potential, and down several key pieces, no less! Its a good time to be a Cardinals fan.
which is weird
because they still don’t have Freese, Ludwick, Penny, or Lohse back yet; Rasmus has been trying to stay healthy, the middle infield still isn’t hitting, Schumaker was held out of the lineup today, etc etc….
I guess we’re going to look goddamn good every time we manage to win with Soupsworth at the back end of the rotation…..
...
yeah, it’s bizarre that we’re playing so well without the big guns.
by zoomzoomj88 on Jul 20, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Good god Dan
Get off the Jack Clark diet
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 20, 2010 10:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
aramis ramirez has come back from the dead
just in time for jeff suppan and blake hawksworth to make wrigley field starts
ahahhHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahhahaHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA....
ha .ha.
ha.
hAHAHAHAHAHaHahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahaHAHAHAHAhahahAHAHhAhaHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHHA
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
okay breathe... breathe...
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Buster Olney, you are a funny fucker.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
mull-ing.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 20, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
the ONLY way that would happen
would be in two years, as in, tlr and pujols bolt together. for now, there is no way tlr is leaving albert. also, i violently shudder at the thought.
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
if Albert goes to the Cubs
It would probably take all my self-control to keep me away from hard drugs that day
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
is he actually out?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
zomg a boog postgame feature.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's the best
and it actually loses something when he doesn’t watch the ball all the way over the fence.
winning streaks
so we haven’t had too many of these this season right? at 7 games, this is the longest one eh?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
winning streaks
so we haven’t had too many of these this season right? at 7 games, this is the longest one eh?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions
d'oh
excuse the double post, need new ’puter
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It's de rigeur to blame it on SBN.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
I would except that I am amazed that my computer is even letting me comment at all right now
I was rendering video for a concert on friday night and my machine overheated. I am going to reinstall the OS to determine if this is a hardware failure or if I just need a good hard drive cleaning. unfortunately I am thinking my hard drive is on the brink.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
if it's been on the fritz
since overheating, reinstalling windows won’t really do any good
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that
but my hope is that maybe it’s actually not due to overheating and I just have some annoying program running in the background or something.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe
just goto win key + R, then startup, then disable all
reboot and see if it persists. if not, then reenable each one (ones that you want to run at startup, ie: very few) one at a time to locate the bad guy.
but most of them should be unchecked anyway. shit slows down a computer like nothing else
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
wait
after win key + r, type msconfig, then startup
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
so I hold down the windows key and the r button, type msconfig, and restart?
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe he's saying
Go to Start, select Run, type in msconfig and choose disable all from msconfig.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
after you type msconfig
press enter. go to the startup tab
and uncheck literally everything except your AV software or anything else you you know has to be running at all time. which not very much. then click okay and reboot
then if you aren’t having the problem anymore, you can slowly enable each program one by one to see which one you want to install. or you can just leave it
also check your windows updates for recently updated drivers. ad drivers cause really weird shit to happen
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean
what are your symptoms anyway?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
cough, headache, large growth on my penis
by vivaelpujols on Jul 20, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
those are testicles, sir
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
wait
large you say?
no idea
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
the computer was crashing when more than one program is running
it seems to be faring better tonight, but it’s not as hot outside tonight. maybe the best remedy is some air conditioning.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
it very well may be overheating
but i had a similar problem when in built this computer. it was the drivers for the wireless card
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
plus I have vista
so there’s that
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, vista not so bad
provided you’re all up to date with SP2 and everything
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, maybe I'll just get a can of air
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm telling you
if that’s all it is, it’s a helluva lot simpler to just zap it with a five dollar can of air than to go to the trouble of reinstalling the OS and everything else, or dicking around with any hardware BS….if the fan is clogged up it could make the computer overheat.
any BSoDs?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
not sure what that is
more symptoms: my computer will not shut down properly, so i have to hold down the power button to get it to shut down when the circling cycle of computer death begins. which means it is crashing and I can’t do anything.
after I hold down the button and shut it down and wait a minute and turn it back on, it always goes to the screen where it asks you to enter safe. mode. last night I entered safe mode and it allowed me to back up all my files, so that is good (as long as the files actually work I suppose). but anyway, I disabled a few startup programs and it didn’t help, I am still getting the problem. I just tried to put some songs on my mp3 player and to watch a new episode of true blood and those both (at different times) made my computer crash. it seems to operate ok for the few minutes after startup so maybe the can of air is all I need.
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
BSoD
= blue screen of death. In other words, when your OS hangs and gives you a fatal error.
I take it that’s why you want to reinstall the OS, cause it won’t shut down properly. I’d rule out the fan problem first. I’m not totally sure you’re going to be able to reinstall Windows with it being so crashy.
Turn your computer off for 10m
Get a fan. Box fan, oscillating fan, whatever.
Point it at the computer. Turn it on. High, if you like.
Go get a beer.
Come back, turn on computer, and use it.
If you don’t have problems anymore, you had a heat problem.
Dont’ re-install windows. People do that too often ‘’cause geeks who can’t handle linux and need to compensate have convinced them that’s the solution to everything.
i think it's just because it's the easy way
and doesn’t require actually diagnosing a problem which can be hard
about the only time the OS ever needs to be reinstalled is when it won’t boot at all. and not even all of those instances
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
for the record
not saying that sometimes it isn’t worth it. there are plenty of cases where pinpointing some problems are just may more trouble than it’s worth. and i’ve had to go that route a few times
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
yup
a clean start is never a bad thing with a computer imo
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 21, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions
by the way
anybody who has ever been pissed off that their storebought PC is slow as shit should familiarize themselves with what’s in pj’s post here.
Also I’d recommend going through the Services tab and the Task Manager process list. Google anything that you don’t recognize, and determine whether it needs to be running.
first of all
if you’re going to be messing with the services tab, you need to first check the box that says “hide all microsoft services”
second, i just wouldn’t advise it f you don’t know what you’re doing. there’s going to be a lot of shit that you don’t know the purpose of. chances are you don’t need it, but when you do and you can’t figure out why X won’t work, it’s gonna be a pain in the ass
i don’t see what’s to gain by randomly killing running processes at all
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
but as for going and killing startup items
from the startup tab, you can uncheck literally everything except for your AV software. nothing else needs to be running the moment you turn on your computer. if you want to run itunes, you open itunes. otherwise it’s just hogging resources that your computer could use to perform better. remember: unchecking programs from the startup tab in msconfig does not disallow it from running. it only disallows it from launching as soon as you start your computer very, very few programs need that privilege. ftr, on my desktop, i have one – AVG. on my laptop, i have 2 – microsoft security essentials and the synaptics pointing device software that allows me to scroll by moving my finger down the side of the pad. that’s it. my computers run fantastic
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
we're having a streak of comments...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 20, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, very chatty bunch today!
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
5 games was the previous longest.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I slightly prefer Starbucks Java Mocha Frapuccino ice cream.
But, ya, risotto is the kitty.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
sex on a mattress filled with pudding
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 20, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
BCB bolded themselves in one of the Pinella threads.
It’s not just us!
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 20, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
In response to Buster Olney's analysis...
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
by Heisenberg on Jul 20, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 13 recs
A. Ramirez had like 7 ribs or some shit
chief justice
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 20, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You fail for having a Cub on your roster.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
I only picked him up a couple weeks ago! They were out of the running a month ago...
And a Cubs fan in my league had him for the whole time before that.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
crap, fantasy team
i haven’t checked on mine in like a month
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions
And they play the Reds next
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Jack Clark uses 'duck fart' on post game show...
quality broadcasting is quality.
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Albert's "My Wish" segment is on right now
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
good stuff, TLR's only lines
talking about Albert, ‘You know what we call him around here? Overrated.’
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
The kid also got to go into the Video room, and guess who was in there? Chris F. Carpenter.
CDGAFAKWC
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Carp: "GET THIS FUCKING KID OUT OF HERE I'M WATCHING VIDEO"
Producer: “Chris, he’s from the Make a Wish foundation”
Carp: “I DON’T GIVE A FUCK!”
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ya, let's start calling him that around here.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Fredbird and his van! zomg.
dude, that was really awesome. can see how patient Albert is about bringing kids out of their shells.
“My locker’s next to Yadi… got to be next to the best.”
Albert interrupts Carp before a game start!
and the hitting tips were priceless. Albert for coach.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 20, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
And the kid actually starts roping them.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
traditional mix tape
Mo Money
did y’all see Carp turn the volume down with his eyes?
Nevermind behind Holliday…
what happened during his interview? all of a sudden everyone started laughing, and Boog interjected. I missed it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yeah, I couldnt hear what Boog said, but apparently it was hilarious. Everyone was laughing...
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
should rerun in the morning. hmm.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 20, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Lugo is the hero in Baltimore... First Family in attendance.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
soooo... G-Dem's sports staff just up and quit.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we're up here
(link to post in other thread)
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 20, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
all I see are haters.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I saw that
starting up an online news site of any kind is tough work, I wonder if they didn’t expand too quickly.
Globe-Democrat
venerable (and, until recently, defunct) St. Louis newspaper. Recently revived as an on-line only operation.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 21, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Waino loves him some Pappy's.
"They punched me a lot," Holliday said of the celebration [after his July 18 walk-off single]. "But they were good punches."
Ow.
Crawford caught the throw and the glove to his groin. Damn.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 21, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
Pinella's agent let the cat out of the bag early?
Huh.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 21, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions
man
10:44pm: Olney and Stark hear that the Rays are discussing possible trades for Werth (Twitter link). The Phils are working “very, very aggressively” to move Werth, who has $2.85MM remaining on his 2010 salary (Twitter link).
kinda makes you wonder if he did bang utley’s wife. why else would they be very, very aggressively trying to get rid of their best active hitter?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
maybe second best
howard is a touch better right now
still
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
But Werth has a ton more defensive value
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
sure
but i was just talking about the best hitter
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't he learn from Ed Wade?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Aren't you still a minor?
“I’m Chris Hansen with Dateline NBC. You wanna sit down?”
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Ehhh it was a reach anyway
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
don't worry
i get it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
ummmmmmmmmm
do you just troll that site for fun?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
No, that was somebody else impersonating me
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
At least he got the vulgarity down
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
It was the exact same format as a comment in the Ubaldo thread
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
lolol
#
vivaelpujols says:
June 18, 2010 at 3:26 am
No problem sorry for cursing anyway. I agree with you completely there.
Vote -1 Vote +1
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vivaelpujols says:
June 18, 2010 at 4:53 am
No, I take that back. I’m not sorry. FUCKING EVIDENCE BULLSHIT
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
it's something vep would do.
i’m just sayin’.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure Danup would be pleased with that!
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
ahhhhhhhhh
well that’s cute.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
is that really you posting?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 21, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
okay because i couldn't see you arguing that Ichiro is more valuable than Miguel Cabrera
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jul 21, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
my thoughts exactly.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
hah!
i saw that way back when that was written. i thought you were against fangraphs and were just tryin to piss people off! lol
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
so that game was fun.
the end.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
cincy wins?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
man...fuck the reds
7 game winning streak and we’ve only gained 3.5 games. don’t they know they’re supposed to suck during our winning streaks?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions
take that back
2.5 games.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
They are playing.. the Nationals, they weren't likely to lose the last two games
Tomorrow they face Strasburg and we face Blanton. There is a very good chance we gain another game.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 21, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i'm aware.
i was just being whiny.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 21, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Me like
Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.
by Whiteyballer on Jul 21, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Joe Torre broke him
Craigression and Holliday were the hammer; July in St. Louis was the anvil….
Yeah, Torre did a double mound visit (second was accidental). Basically Torre starting walking off the mound, Loney asked him a question, Torre came back, and then Broxton had to be pulled. In comes Sherrill who allows a double.
Baseball makes the world go 'round, or at least in my world it does.
by Whiteyballer on Jul 21, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Torre was tossed at that point.
it was Mattingly.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 21, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
...
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 21, 2010 2:01 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
The Braves had a pretty leet start to this game I went to in '07
Also, Troy Percival batted.
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Ah Nascar Night...only in the south....
and Im glad I dont remember that game. 14-3 after 4. Ouch. Did Kip Wells start that game? Jason Marquis? Todd Wellemeyer?
'Don't kiss an ass if its in the process of shitting on you.' - Best advice ever.
Quick b-r lookup shows the starter as ol' Braden Looper!
Though, I dunno why they had a NASCAR night. The races in Atlanta are traditionally held in March and October.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Research also shows Chris Duncan went yard in that game.... yayyyy
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Chris Duncan was a triple away from the cycle in that game
And Wille F. Harris went 6-6 with 2 triples
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only was it NASCAR night in the South
That game set the record for attendance at Turner Field
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 21, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
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