This Week Around VEB: July 12-18
by DanUpBaby on Jul 18, 2010 7:38 PM EDT
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PrintViva El Birdos is unconventionally set up, as far as blogs go—long-form entries, no breaking news, mostly one story a day—but there's a lot of other Cardinals-related content being generated around SB Nation. So while I plug SB Nation St. Louis I thought I'd also take this opportunity to start a weekly summary of VEB's fanposts, which taken in full view format forms an enjoyable shadow-VEB.
SB Nation St. Louis
On SB Nation St. Louis we ran three Cardinals features last week. On July 12 Your Host wrote about the Top Five things not to worry about over the All-Star Break, which I am happy to say included whether or not the Home Run Derby would break Matt Holliday. On Friday Alex Fritz liveblogged the 1994 All-Star Game, which featured the antics of, among others, Ozzie Smith and The Gregg Jefferies. Spoiler alert:
And just like that, it's over. The National League's six year losing streak is done, and we are all sure there will never be a streak like that again. Fred McGriff is your All-Star Game MVP and we head into the second half of the summer of 1994, a summer that will surely not destroy my childhood and make me bitter and jaded for the rest of my life.
And this morning I took a look at Jon Jay, the minor league hero of the month to date.
There's also the Sports of St. Louis blog, which I update a few times a day, news willing. Among other things I examined the Molina brothers' relationship and whined about Edinson Volquez.
Fanposts
On Shadow-VEB—seriously, I love the full view—we have, most recently, a poll about Adam Wainwright's Cy Young chances. There's also an interesting post about the need to play Felipe Lopez given his precarious Elias ranking and this retrospective and discussion thread about baseball cards. (Me, I'm lucky to have grown up in a time when Mothers throwing away valuable baseball cards had become an archetype to avoid.)
On July 13 VolsnCards5 ran down the ten most valuable trading commodities on the Cardinals. I'd have trouble pulling the trigger on anybody above number six, and I'd have trouble getting value out of anybody below number seven. An awkward position!
On July 12 there were no fewer than three fanposts: there was discussion about trading for leadoff options, trading for Alex Gonzalez (how about Yunel Escobar, straight up?), and, astonishingly enough, Eminem's "Not Afraid" as performed by Tony La Russa and noted hypeman Aaron Miles.
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Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Indeed.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Cards signed... Bibona?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so....is this the thread we're hangin' out in?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 18, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, he came ready to go.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
by TBender on Jul 18, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I enjoyed it
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 18, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
My name on a front page post
Hooray!!! My dream has come true!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
That guy we gave a lot of money in the offseason to protect albert is dead to me...DEAD TO ME
Jason Werth steals second
Is safe. Beard created no noticeable drag.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Speaking of Werth
I have been meaning to ask the VEB folks about this, and haven’t actually been on much lately so I may have missed the boat. But what is up with this rumor that Werth had an affair with Utley’s wife? Is that the kindof thing that guys get traded away for?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Or a high-fiveable offense
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 18, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure when or how it originated or anything
But if you do a google search of “werth utley affair” it gets lot of hits. I’m not even sure when I read about it, it was in the last week or two though.
I am doing a quick glance now and it looks like maybe it was debunked since then. So it could just be BS.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Anyway, now that I have looked closer for a few minutes...
The main “source” that I can find is some website called “phightinphils.com”, and lots of comments from various places say it’s bogus.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Also I've seen something about a site called "TheDirty.com"
How on earth does this crap get started?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
That's a huge troll site.
It’s on Tim McKernan’s radio show from time to time. (Trolls stick together.)
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
The Dirty
it’s run by someone McKernan knows. I actually find the ITD morning show pretty funny but I don’t care for most of what McKernan (and his fellow “too cool for school” trolls) do in StL.
Silly humans, this world is for robots.
i heard it on the radio about two weeks ago
that’s as far as it got though.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 18, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Kendrick vs Hawksworth tomorrow.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I think Hawk might actually be favored in that one
by vivaelpujols on Jul 18, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Kendrick's 4-0 in four starts against us...
he’s given up 5 runs in 27 innings… and he’s received decent run support. 50 runs… yes 50.
Fire La Russa!
Who brings an offense with him.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
have you seen the phillies play recently?
the cubs just routed them. with halladay pitching
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 19, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Halladay giving up runs.
2R HR to Soto
Then 3 straight singles (Gorlezanny, Colvin, Castro).
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
And....Ryan Howard drops a foul popup.
Joe Morgan with the instant excuse.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
WHY COULDN'T WE GET IN ON THAT!!!!?!!!!
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 18, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Because trade chips didn't add up
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
your mom's trade chips don't add up.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 18, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
the real question
can we still get in on it?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Jul 19, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
more like the Braves didn't want to trade him to us
by FlimtotheFlam on Jul 19, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
IIRC on our end we agreed that rick ankiel for kelly johnson, or Luddy for Escobar, would make sense. They wanted more.
in retrospect, I’m (still) really glad we didn’t trade luddy for escobar, and there’s a very good chance that KJ would be seen as a huge failure if he was playing in STL.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
I am pretty sure if we could ever have got Escobar for Ankiel we would've done it in a second.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 19, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Bobby Valentine btw said Ike Davis was "well on his way to winning Rookie of the Year"
Is Ike Davis in the top 5 for RoY?
Not afraid to nitpick
Doubt it
Strasburg, Heyward, Garcia, Posey, Gaby Sanchez, Freese, and Stubbs are probably all higher.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
is stubbs still a rookie?
he got some pretty decent playing time last year i thought. probably throw leake in the mix.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Davis is hitting .255/.331/.448 in 79 games so far
which might have been enough to get consideration in last year’s mediocre rookie class (with apologies to Raz, he was only so-so as a rookie), but surely won’t be this year.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Jul 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Soriano homers off of Halladay.
Still overpaid.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
He's having a really good bounce-back season
considering some were suggesting he might even be out of baseball within 1-2 years after last season.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jul 19, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It's so nice not being hamstrung by
massive, terrible contracts.
…. just don’t link me this post 5-6 years from now, please.
Lohse is pretty bad
But not massive.
Also, the internet will be dead 5-6 years from now.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 19, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Well duh
5-6 years from now is 2015-2016, which is after the apocalypse in 2012
"Very accomplished bunter" - Rick Horton about Aaron Miles
by jd is legend on Jul 19, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
By the way, they are making a TV series sequel to 2012
It actually sounds… cool.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 19, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
if the apocalypse is in 2012...d
Cardinals should take on a lot of 300 mil 5 year contracts next year.
that's probably an understatement
Rasmus can hit lefties
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 19, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions
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