A talk with Ozzie Smith about team chemistry and the prostate; a look at the Cardinals' newest futility meme
by DanUpBaby on Jul 13, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintRecently your host was given the opportunity to chat briefly with Ozzie Smith on the occasion of the All-Star Break. He's doing the press rounds first and foremost to discuss the Depend Campaign To End Prostate Cancer, which counts him among its ex-athlete spokesmen. He threw out stats in such a way as to make my inner Joe Strauss demand he get his nose out from the prostate-cancer-related spreadsheets in his mother's basement, but the main point of his message was this pull quote: "With early detection prostate cancer isn't just treatable, it's very beatable."
This is the first time Viva El Birdos readers have ever received a direct order from Ozzie Smith, at least so far as I know: Men 50 years and older (and African-American men 40 years and older) are hereby mandated to get their PSA levels tested, and regularly; the women of Viva El Birdos are to encourage their loved ones to do the same. Ozzie Smith said so. He went to the All-Star Game a million times.
After that we talked about the recent chemistry concerns that have filtered through the usual chemistry concern channels. Is the Cardinals' chemistry following Ryan Franklin's Greatest Hits, etc. To my surprise and delight, Ozzie Smith, noted King of Chemistry, favorite of fan and player, said this about that:
"Let me put it like this: You know, people ask me how do you spell chemistry, I spell good chemistry w-i-n. When you win, chemistry is always there... When you're losing it's just like anything—you fight with your brothers... with the daily grind of everything, the more you win, the better things are.
"It's not always glorious in a clubhouse. You know, I don't want a clubhouse where we're losing and everyone's happy. Give me that guy who's pissed off because we're losing. That's the kind of guy you want to be in the trenches with, that's the guy who you have a chance to win with. Nobody should be happy with a long losing streak."
There's something to be said for The Man Stew, but winning is what gets it simmering in the first place.
Finally, he demurred when asked about his increased power-hitting in the Celebrity Softball Game, suggesting he hadn't changed much as a hitter by necessity: "When you don't do it all year and you get up there and try to pull the ball out of the ballpark... I'm more of a go-the-other-way type of hitter these days." (I've seen him turn around on those slow-pitch softballs—I've seen it—but I wasn't going to press the issue.)
As for Matt Holliday's Home Run Derby exit, it was frustrating, as all Home Run Derby exits are. I was disappointed to see him swing so frequently and so (initially) unsuccessfully; Albert Pujols's 2009 exit was marked, at least, by long strings of taken pitches and an eventual switch to a completely alien high-leg-kick version of Albert Pujols who finally gave Busch Stadium what it wanted. But he did take the longest-distance shot of the night, at 497 feet, and if you're going to get kicked out in the first round it's best to get cut down in the prime of your swinging life, hitting golden balls for charity (but not, unfortunately, Three-Point Shootout-style double points.)
But what's especially frustrating about Matt Holliday's Home Run Derby exit is that I know it's frustrating now. Upon checking Wikipedia yesterday while preparing some SB Nation article or another I learned that the Cardinals have more home runs than any team in Derby history (100) and have sent more contestants (14), but still have zero victories to their credit.
My only recourse here? The Josh Hamilton defense—we can always fall back on Mark McGwire's 1999 performance, in which he tied Ken Griffey, Jr., for most home runs hit over the course of the competition, and took over press coverage of the event by hitting home runs over two Green Monsters stacked on top of each other, but lost because he hit them in the wrong distribution.
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women need to be screened too. the rates are not much lower than for the men.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
for colorectal cancer, that is.
proper nouns, they are fighting me.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the older you get, the more risk of cancer
when you are old like me, I am always getting screened for something. I will probably die from exposure to radiation from too many tests. I’m not saying don’t get the tests. Get the tests. I’m bemoaning the fact that cancer is so much more frequent that we need to get all these tests.
"I've had pretty good success with Stan (Musial) by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine
I think there's a specific list that affects younger demographics, too.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I've heard that they are close to having a test...
where they can determine onset colon cancer by substance levels in urine… because colonoscopies are so weird…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
Personally, I'm waiting for the FDA to approve
this.
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 13, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
winning... and Mark DeRosa!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chemistry of the Rose?
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 13, 2010 8:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
in case anyone likes their paper bags in the morning
this happened. and incidentally, Erin Andrews was involved.
SBN lightning coverage.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Am I the only cow...
…who has no interest in Erin Andrews? I’m just not that impressed. Rachel Nicols, on the udder hoof – ROWR!!!!!
:=8D
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Moo, I couldn't have said it better myself
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 13, 2010 8:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You're insane
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 13, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Erin Andrews...
…has a weird square face, and she’s kind of a bubblehead. Rachael is classy, smart, and a redhead (WOOHOO!!!), and I know for a fact that she loves cows and like to scratch them on the head and thinks they’re cute and sexy. Ok, maybe I embellished that a bit, but she is a whole pie of cuteness…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
well I'm not a cow,
but I’d bovine her
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Jul 13, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dye jobs turn me off
at least the blatant ones. Put some EFFORT into making it look natural. hahah
Rachel Nichols?
No thanks. I’m not big on Erin Andrews either.
Suzy Kolber, on the other hand….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I was at a Sunday Night game in Minnesota with seats on the first row of the endzone
back when she was doing sideline reporting for ESPN Sunday Night Football. She’s one of those people that you don’t realize how good looking they are until you see them in person. She’s very striking in person. That, coupled with the fact that she probably loves to talk sports for hours on end is pretty awesome.
I fell like Erin Andrews and Rachel Nichols are eye candy first, interested sports individual second.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I enjoyed
both Erin Andrews (illini game) and Rachel Nichols (CHI/MN MNF) in person. I was only close enough in both instances to probably complete a pass, but still made my days
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Can't Go ..
…by PSA levels alone, that can lead to a lot of misdiagnosis and unnecessary worry. But cowbined with examinations, family history, etc they can be very useful predictors in context. And I recowmend everyone get one examination by 40, as a baseline to cowpare future examinations to.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I was diagnosed with prostate cancer
at age 52 (last year) and I really wish I had been PSA tested over a longer period of time to establish a baseline. The PSA test is just a blood test and I would recommend starting around age 40 as you should be having your blood screened at that age for cholesterol, etc.
Diagnosis and treatment are very tough as there are a lot of factors to consider that are all difficult to pin down. Most docs will consider a PSA number above 4 to be an indication for a biopsy though some are lobbying for 2.5 to be the standard. The unfortunate fact is that PSA varies quite a bit for a given individual and is not an absolute measurement. My initial screening showed a number of 5.1. Since I have no family history of prostate cancer and my best bud had PSA scores in the 20s with negative biopsies I decided to wait and have the PSA checked again in six months. During that time my younger brother was diagnosed with malignant melanoma. I spent most of the next six months either traveling for work or traveling to see my brother. I blew off the follow-up PSA test as the numbers showed that I only had a 15% chance of having cancer and it is typically slow growing, etc.
My brother died from his cancer in late fall and one of his dying wishes was that I get a prostate biopsy. I had a follow up PSA test and the number was 6.3, so I got that biopsy. It was positive and showed a moderately aggressive form of cancer. I delayed a few more months while considering the various treatment options and eventually decided to have a DaVinci robotically-assisted laproscopic radical prostatectomy. The surgery was successful and I was back to full strength pretty quickly. However, the pathology report showed that the cancer hand grown through the capsule that contains the prostate gland so they couldn’t be sure they got all the cancer. They scheduled me for a follow up PSA eight weeks after surgery and the PSA level was undetectable, so they think I am cured. I will have to have a PSA test every three months for the rest of my life, but that is a non-issue.
So, if you are over 40 be sure you get PSA checked as part of an annual physical. Be sure to remember to abstain from sex for 72 hours preceding the blood draw or you may get a false positive. If you can’t abstain from sex for 72 hours you probably are not old enough to have the test.
Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
by giveml on Jul 13, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Lol....not at the subject, and I hope all works out for you ml,
but that was a great closing line.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
PSA
you are correct re psa levels. the most important aspect is rate of change. a collegue of mine had psa of 2.6, but had malignancy. he was alerted because his level was rising. i should add to the mix here that there are 2 types of psa tests. one is the common serum test and the other is a bound/free test. this latter test measures the fraction of psa bound to proteins vs. free molecules (cancer, as opposed to prostate enlargement) will drive the bound psa number up, a normal person will have about an 80bound/20free split. very good idea to have a baseline for this number also; might make you more confident that a biopsy is, or is not, in order.
also, givemi, my sympathies. do not fail to make those appointments. i know several people who have undetectable psa post-op, but then see it resurface 2-3 years alter. gotta remain vigilant.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
Cancer Sucks
I’m sorry about your brother- and am glad you are getting good news on your recovery.
Optimism carried too far becomes dementia.
by RosevilleRedbird on Jul 13, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it depends
on just how much you turn you on….
Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
What if he just has a vivid imagination?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Are there people
whose imagination is not vivid enough for solo sex? Other than our parents, of course….
Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
OT: i've (again) been reminder as to why i never read the comment section under PD articles
How many 70 run seasons has Albert had now? How many 50 run seasons has he had? Why does everyone think he is a God? I think he has had a few good seasons and made a few game winning home runs, but I think he is pretty much past his prime. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out of St. Louis, Albert. Good riddens in advance
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jul 13, 2010 9:01 AM EDT reply actions
another good rason not read most of the PD boards
I particularly like the spelling for “riddens”. Greatest fans in baseball and all that
Yeah the Stan/Jack Buck effect which never was as much as it was made out to be
Has been replaced by cheering for ourselves despite being the same as most fans because we’re not cubs fans, it’s pretty sad.
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 13, 2010 9:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
that's good
I prefer this one, though
If he’s such a “class act” why did he help tear down St. Louis’s only classical radio station? The one that had been broadcasting for 62 years? Much of its content was beautiful music glorifying God which had stood the test of time. Who does he think he is to come to our town and take down a wonderful old cultural institution? He has certainly lost a number fans for his team. Permanently.
if (random politician) is so great, how come they let bp happen??
good riddens, intelligent fan base.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jul 13, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Non-St. Louisan.
What is this even referencing?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
P-D
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That's too bad.
Classical music is awesome. It seems that with mp3 players and internet radio like Pandora, folks don’t listen to niche radio stations any longer. I know I haven’t done so—except for Cardinals broadcasts—for years. What did Pujols have to do with it?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think Pujols helped fund the station that is replacing it
Not exactly the same thing as “tearing down the classical station” so, as usual, this is P-D commenter nonsense.
Sadly, the classical station was going to die not matter what.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I hope that the replies were along the lines of:
“Buy an iPod.”
“Download Podcasts.”
“Sign up for Pandora.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
they had a point though
a lot of the cultural events were covered through KFUO. it was a pipeline to the charity and support for the arts. I’m not sure what fills that vacuum.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably NPR
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
I'm ignorant to this situation, so I'll defer to St. Louisans.
I tend to be sad about things like this, and if it is going to hurt the charity and the arts, then it is truly sad.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
The problem is treating all FM stations like money machines, which is what the conglomerates do.
If Clear Channel would just allow two stations in each market to be “loss leaders” and cover local music, arts, etc., then they’d have a lot better public outreach.
They just aren’t interested in public outreach, their only interest is in dollars. Capitalism at it’s finest, actually.
Our classical radio station here in Des Moines is funded through Iowa State University and private donation, so we don’t have to deal with this crap, although that day could soon come to an end as well.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'm fine with for profit ventures and capitalistic tendencies
But what I’m not fine with is the assumption that these models work for everything under the sun. They don’t. Many of the technologies we rely on today were developed outside of the capitalistic model and some really good ideas (such as alternative fuels, nuclear power, medicine etc.) need the safe haven of long term, non-market funded research that the market simply can’t adequately provide.
There are also things that are endemic to a functioning, informed, and literate society that the market simply cannot provide. Most people don’t give a shit about the arts, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t have value and that they will not be missed if they happen to wither away.
I think you need a good hybrid system, and that’s part of what we’re losing in this country, imo.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
but Capitalism is just fine
(I assume you misspelled on purpose?)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
that misspelled sign guy sign was stuck in the middle of some of the Derby montage
sucked.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also, the StL NPR station started a digital FM / streaming classics station to help fill the void.
Not nearly the same as having a broadcast FM station, though.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 13, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Although, the parent station has signed up to broadcast St. Louis Symphony Orchestra concerts on Saturdays.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 13, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
You guys have weekly Symphony Orchestra concerts?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
About 9 months out of the year.
My limited understanding is that the SLSO is pretty highly regarded. I don’t have any experience to compare them to myself.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jul 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
The Classical folks should get a slot on 88.1
Independant Radio
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
I used to listen to it
just because it was the only show that actually played music in the morning. I HAAAAAAATE radio morning shows
Same here
I particularly wanted to kill the people at 96.3 for a while. I don’t understand why arrogant jerks who think everybody cares about their opinion dominate morning drive radio so much. I can understand political talk radio, because that’s the whole point. But on my way to work, on an otherwise mainstream music station, I don’t want to hear that crap.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I think talk radio is absolutely awful.
There is rarely measured analysis or perspective.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Indeed, most of it is just to get attention
There is very little substance in talk radio.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Radio in general sucks...
it’s been completely ruind by C-o-n-s-u-l-t-a-n-t-s
Those links explain that the station closed
but finding Pujol’s link to it was pretty hard even with some extensive google searching. It appears that the company that bought out a struggling church owned classical music station was funding by some money that Pujols helped raise. I don’t see anything that he did wrong here, he raised money for a christian music station to get a stronger signal and at the same time bought out a struggling station. Yes it is sad that Classical is off the air, but Pujols didnt kill it single handedly
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
'Christian Contemporary Pop Music'
…sounds awful. Really awful.
'Real women know that the way to a man's heart...is through a melee attack!' - KB
Formerly known as The_teague
so one day Matt Holliday turned to Albert and said
“You know what would be cool? More Creed.”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Because Christian Contemporary music has stretched it's meaning a bit.
Not all it’s sub-genres are all bad, but the Pop part of it sucks….well pop music in general sucks.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Not arguing whether or not they should be, just saying why they are.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
A mans greatness is measured in 70 home runs seasons
Even every day people, if you hit the equivalent of 70 home runs at your job, then you are great. If not you need to at least hit 50.
On my recent work evaluation I was told that my 45 home runs (during my age 27 season) for this last fiscal year were indeed above replacement level but my boss no longer sees me as a God… very disappointing.
He then punched me in the nuts and told me not to let the door hit me on the way out of the office.
what a moran
by salukihoops on Jul 13, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
didnt even say home runs
they said runs…i mean…color me confused as heck
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
This confused me, because I thought,
“The fewest runs Albert has scored in a season is 99, but that’s a terrible indicator of his individual offensive ability, so why are we using 50 runs as the mark? Don’t the majority of MLB starters score at least 50 runs?”
Then, of course, I realized that this individual meant dingers.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Morans dig the long ball.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
by TBender on Jul 13, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The person couldn't spell riddance correctly.
Not much of a stretch to think that they couldn’t put the “home” in home runs.
Stupid people are like oxygen, they’re damn near everywhere.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
May I steal that line from you?
“Stupid people are like oxygen, they’re damn near everywhere.”
I laughed.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 14, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
If Albert has never scored 70 runs in a season, that IS pretty bad
Honestly, I wish there was a way for us every day people to access this information.
I know they have a mainframe computer down at the university but it takes up an entire room. I doubt they’ll ever make one small enough that people could have them in their homes.
This astute poster probably tried to watch every cardinals game over the last few years, an kept a count (on scratch paper) of how many runs Albert scored. While his efforts are noble, its possible that he missed a few runs.
by salukihoops on Jul 13, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In my brain I sort of re-wrote the comment as 70 runs above replacement,
a mark Pujols has hit in the majority of his seasons.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
A FEW good seasons?
You mean, like, all of them? This is probably one of his worst and he’s still starting the ASG and is still nearly atop the NL in home runs. Are these people intentionally obtuse?
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by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 13, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
It's more like all of them are HOF seasons.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
If they all were HOF seasons, then why haven't the Cardinals won 10 World Series?
Such “logic” makes my brain hurt.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
so, you are saying ...
… that no one has evar had a HOF-caliber season without winning a World Series that year? Or are you just pointing out how ridiculous that remark is?
by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Jul 13, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He is commenting on how silly the anti-Pujols comments on the P-D site are.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Correct. Merely pushing the silliness forward.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Albert is so GD good it really is hard to keep things in perspective
Joey Votto is having, by all accounts, an absurdly tremendous year. A Herculean performance thus far. On the other hand, Albert is having a “down” or “disappointing” season. Their numbers? Roughly comparable.
I was just thinking about this last night
Votto is only able to put up a Pujolsian season because Pujols is having one of his most ho-hum offensive years. If Pujols were having the same kind of season as the last two years then the conversation would be quite different.
Votto is still pretty awesome though. Like, starting DH in the All-Star game good (eff you Charlie Manuel)
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Poor Pujols.
He has set our expectations so high. His wOBA is only 7th in all of baseball. Ho-hum indeed!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
It's insane!
Also, Votto’s BABIP is in the .340 range, while Pujols’ is right around .300. The difference in their slash stats is almost entirely due to difference in batting average. Hmmmmmmm.
Also, Pujols has a better BB/K and BB%.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Seriously.
I did a little playing around with numbers a few days ago, and realized the only thing separating this season from a normal Pujols season is about 8 or 10 singles.
10 singles adds 50 points to his slugging?
I don’t think so.
He’s slugged under .600 only twice in his career prior to this season, and they also were his worst two years (while being just about anyone else’s BEST two years, probably). His K rate is up a bit, but we’re talking about a handful of extra K’s in nearly 400 PA’s.
Zips update has him for 38 doubles and 39 homers at the end of the season. He’s only finished below 38 doubles once in his career, and if you add another 5 doubles to his slugging right now it brings it up above .600.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Am I misunderstanding what you're saying?
If 5 doubles brings his slugging up over .600, then how would 10 singles not do the same thing?
Are you adding on at bats, or just adding the raw hit numbers into his existing at-bat total?
Probably means 5 doubles in 5 PA vs 10 singles in 10 PA
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Because there's more PA's involved to get to 10 singles
You can’t hit 10 singles in 5 PA’s. You’re measuring the amount of bases per AB, so 5 2B in the same number of AB’s will raise slugging more than 10 singles in the same number of AB’s.
This is, of course, assuming that you’re turning outs into these positive outcomes, and not walks or other type of hits.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
he's turning outs that already happened into singles (not adding a new singles or doubles)
10 outs → 10 singles
and
5 outs → 5 doubles
have the same impact on SLG
by brackenthebox on Jul 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, I see where our disconnect is.
My statement above was assuming that Albert would have gotten those singles in his existing PA total, either via hitting them not quite so close to infielders, or not striking out on a bad pitch and putting good one in play, etc. Not adding on additional plate appearances to get there.
OK, I'm lazy,
what’s Albert’s career BABIP? I would guess it to be higher than league average due to LD% and the ferocity with which many of his ground balls are struck. I’m not surprised to see that his BABIP is (I’m guessing) low this year. There have been quite a number of very well at ’em balls off his bat this year.
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 14, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a crying shame that neither Votto or Youkilis is on the All-Star team
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
wait, votto really isn't on the All Star Team? REALLY??
its more than a crying shame. its fucking ridiculous, and not in a good way
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Well, Votto hasn't won an MVP,
and isn’t set to make $25MM in his mid-thirties (yet), and isn’t one of Charlie Manuel’s guys, so he hasn’t achieved “All-Star” status in the eyes of fans and the Phillie manager.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
wait, that's what i thought
is he on the team or not people?!?!
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Zimmerman gets screwed, yet again.
At least Votto got voted in. Zimmerman is having a great year while missing a bunch of time on the DL, and because nobody knows the Nationals (And admittedly, David Wright is having a really good year), he gets screwed. But seriously, Matt Capps gets the team appearance over Zimmerman?
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Zimmerman must be a jerk or something.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
or Votto could be the "save for extra innings guys"
and never use him :)
Though there are new rules this year
"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."
Just read through the HR derby ot thread
Happy about the mst3k refernece and mojo has given me my new favorite phrase of all time “fuck the heck?”
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jul 13, 2010 9:14 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
the lineage of "fuck the heck"
merit badge
for the memesplanation
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I still think that the 2006 result was at least understandable
But the vote share for Howard since then is just stupid. As are the inevitable articles by dumb old fogey sports writers every damn year.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I've had this argument a million times, so I hesitate to rehash it
but it’s only understandable when you proceed under the assumption that HRs and RBIs are the end all and be all of baseball, which the sportswriters apparently did. For fuck’s sake, he was 6th!!!! on his own team in OBP.
But the FJM article was about 2008
In 2008 the argument was stupid. In 2006 Howard’s hitting was truly awesome, and it wasn’t just the homers and ribbies.
He has never come close to that production since then, but people still think of him as being that good.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm pretty sure he was seventh in all of baseball, and first on the Phillies
At least Fangraphs tells me as much. Well, Bobby Abreu was higher by .002 or something, but he had less than 350 at-bats so I didn’t think that counted.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Should have said Abreu had less than 450 PA.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Grammar nazi in da house.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Psh you don't know me
I do what I want
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jul 13, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Heh
Good. I was hoping the goofiness would come through, because in my head it was said in a white trash Jerry Springer guest kinda voice.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
2006 was almost the same as 2005...
except Howard hit 58 HR and not 51 HR.
Pujols trailed both Howard and Jones in the BBWAA stats by the same amounts while clobbering them everywhere else.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
I don't think it is understandable.
2006 WAR:
Howard, 6.5
Pujols, 8.3
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Howard's wOBA was .436 to Pujols' .448 in 2006
It was not as crazy a mistake as the later arguments when Howard’s offense settled into its normal patterns. Also, not everybody really understood how much better Pujols’ defense was than Howard’s back then. This was four years ago after al.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
All I'm sayins is
Howard had a truly great year in 2006, his only truly “MVP-type” year. I still think Pujols clearly deserved the MVP that year, as he was better than Ryan Howard. But that particular year doesn’t bother me as much as the subsequent years when he clearly didn’t live up to 2006 but still got all this dumb MVP support from the talking heads.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
If Albert hadn't missed time that season, who knows what his WAR could have been
by jd is legend on Jul 13, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
That too
Also, he managed to hit 49 homers in less than a full season (he missed something like 15 games, right?). Would he have broken fifty and put up a comparable number of HR to Howard, thus negating a large part of the supposed advantage Howard had in the voting? I think so.
It’s also amazing that he was only .2 WAR behind David Wright in 2007 despite the “down” year, with his ridiculous defense (according to UZR with all its flaws of course).
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Just awesome. I miss that site more every time I read an archive.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
given that McClellan's column in the fanpost was clearly farcical
I hereby nominate the Stephen A. Smith article ridiculed in that post as the dumbest article ever written. Actual quote from the article:
But the reality is the talent that is Pujols, while fairly unique, is a dime a dozen in the laundry list of Latin talent that has invaded baseball.
terrible syntax, internally inconsistent and self-contradictory, and to top it all off, one of the dumbest thoughts ever articulated in sports journalism
A dime a dozen?
How about, um, two? Pujols and Cabrera. Manny Ramirez is from New York.
Steven A Smith should stick to writing about basketball. Or should I say “taking blind shots in the wind” at reporting basketball news.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Stephen A. Smith is a horrible writer, even at basketball.
Has been for a while now, just keeps talking about racism and prejudice, as well as making the most idiotic insinuations.
He’s just as bad on TV as well.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Hehehe
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
He rivals Jim Rome for how fast I can change the channel.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooo, tough choice.
I would go with Smith there. I can’t stand Rome to save my life. His views (or, what they tell him to say) are so infuriating and dumb.
At least Smith yells and is somewhat entertaining to watch when he is angry, kind of like Skip Bayless, who is dumber.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I forgot about Skip.
I really try to forget about Skip. I honestly can’t stand any of them. Most of give a damn about the sound of their own voices, not the story.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip Bayless reminds me of Woody Paige
Who, for some reason, I always kinda liked. Maybe it’s because they were on Cold Pizza together and Bayless always made Paige look like the smartest guy in the room.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Trivia question:
If Don King, Skip Bayless, Jay Mariotti, Jim Rome, and Steven A. Smith died in a plane crash, who would be the lead on the news?
Answer:
The guy that did it.
In a parade.
Celebrating making the world a better place.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I would add Bill Plaske to that as well.
I hate that guy’s guts. Always out for the controversial stuff (The Bullshit controversial stuff, I mean), and is a blatant homer, among other things.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Wanna hear something weird?
Recently I’ve gotten on something of a cooking kick and have been watching Top Chef and Iron Chef and Gary CHEFfield and all kinds of other stuff… my wife loved it and I started watching it too and now I’m hooked and stuff… but anyway Skip Bayless is the brother of a very kind, warm, successful chef of high-end Mexican cuisine named Rick Bayless. The difference between the two is staggering. And one is talented too.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
THAT Rick Bayless?
oh em gee. seriously.
for real?
that is worlds apart. wtf.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes, acc. to Wikipedia
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jul 14, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
WHOA
Doesn’t he do a show about Mexican cuisine? That’s totally weird.
Anybody ever heard of Frank Stitt? I’m good friends with his brother’s family. Went to school with the nephews.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
heh
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to drive 1600 miles on a pack mule to St. Louis so I can give Albert Pujols a little look-see. Want to be able to speak up tomorrow when the Boss Man asks me if we should try to trade for ’im.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Quite frankly, I find this quote appalling.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
The whole article is...
I usually hesitate to call something racist, but saying Howard’s contributions to the game are more important because he’s black, and Pujols’s don’t really matter because we already have A-Rod, Manny Ramirez, etc., is pretty close.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
the funny part is A-Rod is white, right?
born in America?….
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 13, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
So, when I was looking at Strauss's Twitter feed,
to see him being childish toward DanUp, I saw where he replied in another tweet that he had noticed how sabremetric types have no sense of humor, and I thought, “Apparently, Strauss has not ever read FJM or watched Parks & Rec.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
LOL
Ryan Howard hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley. If Albert Pujols hit behind Jimmy Rollins and Chase Utley, he would have had 493 RBI. Do the math. It checks out.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Have you guys seen the videos
of the interviews to Carpenter and Wainwright? They are talking about who would play them if a movie was made about them. Carpenter actually smiles in this one
I want the Walrus back...
It has to be Scott Foley
They look so much alike. That was great watching his daughter hug on him.
"I've had pretty good success with Stan (Musial) by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine
that's badass
I might add it to the chris carpenter is badass tag.
(that girl is not dating until she’s 18.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
love the concurrent one with Wainwright
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=9909561
there’s a couple more that might be of interest… hang on
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
pop up videos... links!
Wainwright wants in on the Derby; the usual about the team needing to put it together
Brandon Phillips miked up during Derby; he’s kind of hilarious. nice shot of the Rolenettes
Albert as role model; AJ keeps them at arms’ length and checks credentials… whoa what was that about retiring a Cardinal?
Scott Rolen messes with Kevin Millar and YES, they tell the AJ story. AJ! holla at yo boys!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
that Scotty link is absurdly funny
I’m tempted to fanshot it, except he plays for the redlegs now.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
someone else broke it earlier
I wanna say T_C but I’m not sure.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
the albert link is wrong
but otherwise, an excellent use of 10 minutes.
thanks y2s
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
gah
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
It's nice to see Albert in a suit
instead of an Affliction shirt or something.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
why that's a funny coincidence
ANAHEIM, CALIF. • On their chartered jet from Houston to the All-Star Game on Sunday night, Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina polled his teammates on what they planned to wear to interviews and other festivities.
Chris Carpenter said a collared shirt and jeans. Matt Holliday said a collared shirt and jeans. Adam Wainwright, an All-Star rookie, said what they said.
They all knew what Albert Pujols would wear.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's awesome.
He’s going to have a suit on because he’s Albert Pujols.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jul 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This makes me wish they'd just get this damn deal done already
I also hope that he’s thinking about taking a little less coin to avert the pressure of being the highest paid player and having to live up to that expectation.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I dunno
having that many kids plus the rest of their foundation kids — money would be an incentive.
and if he’s going to leave it to his agent, his agent just jumped ship from his group.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
I mean, it’s really hard to raise a family on $20M per season. You need at least $25-$30M to do that thing up right.
Gimme a break — that sounds like Latrell Sprewell bitching about “trying to feed his family” when he was making $15M a season. That’s roughly 5 times what a middle class American will earn IN THEIR LIFETIMES.
If this is really about money, he’s as good as gone. If he signs with a team in a major market, he can quintuple his endorsement contracts (Jeter makes 50% of his salary in endorsement money per season). But he’s not going to be protected from the New York media — if he sucks it up, he’ll take a lot of heat, something he hasn’t taken much of at all in St. Louis outside of Joe Strauss.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
And, with Straussie,
it isn’t so much heat as insufferable whining.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
note that I said foundation kids.
it’s safe to say that middle class Americans do not have the same expenses as the Pujols family. they’re operating the equivalent of a small NGO almost entirely from Albert’s income.
and they have one child whom they’ll be supporting for the rest of her life, even if she’s somewhat independent.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If your entire foundation is based strictly off of your income
You’re no longer running a foundation, you’re running an organized gift giving operation. Most foundations are given seed money from the individual to get started, then a much smaller amount is guaranteed each year (but not necessarily given if the foundation can meet it’s obligations), but they are expected to solicit donations and derive operating income just as any other non-profit organization would.
I highly doubt he’s supporting his organization on the back of his own income. Not only would that be insanely stupid, it would also put the foundation at risk.
Again, if this was solely about money, he’d be stupid to sign in St. Louis if a team in a larger market was offering him similar money. I don’t believe that it’s solely about money.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
not to mention
In most of the rest of the world, your extended family is also included in your expenses. You’re not talking about one household. You’re probably talking about several households.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the thing is, sports careers that end around age 35 effectively end the income.
sure, 15 million a year. Live to be a hundred, and that’s about 230,000 a year. not bad until you divide it among extended family, unexpected health costs, maintenance of property, taxes, and what if this international charity (not some smaller civic charity) starts expensing at 1 million a year? I don’t think this is suddenly greedy. It takes $1 million just to put a child through private school in NYC.
Albert is not LeBron. He has not branded himself to that extent. now, if he starts branding himself at a higher level, then we won’t have to worry about the contract, IMO.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what
albert will make at least $300MM throughout the life of his career just from his baseball salary alone. not counting endorsements and all that. live to be 100 and that’s $3MM a year. the dude is not living the hard life, just trying to make it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Also, that 300 mil will
pull in quite an interest payment.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Don't forget the MLBPA retirement benefits.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Are you trying to take food out of AJ's mouth?
Are you trying to keep Deirdre in just one pair of shoes?
The Mang is just trying to put some dinner on the table and keep his family clothed. Cut him some slack, please.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
AJ is gonna make more money than the Ridiculous One ever will
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
You kidding?
He’s gonna be a SS, so just on positional value alone he’s gonna be worth like an extra 5M a year.
Not afraid to nitpick
assuming that he's half as good at playing baseball as his father
which seems like a losing bet
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Shhhhh
We have a tacit agreement to sign him when he’s 16 and secretly gets his GED. He’ll be the first 17 year old to hit 20 HRs……by hitting 62 HRs……after we call him up in June to avoid Super 2.
Not afraid to nitpick
i'm down with that scenario
and i guess he also plays wizard-esque SS?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Albert Pujols started off as a SS, I believe.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Are you being serious?
You’re right — guys who retire from baseball don’t have any other outlet for income. They don’t move into media, open businesses, run camps, coach or manage. There are any number of outlets for the Aaron Miles’ of the world to make a living after baseball.
Pujols has already earned nearly $120M during his playing career. That’s, forgive the term, Fuck You Money, even with a fairly lavish lifestyle. He’s also probably due to earn at least another $200M or so in salary and endorsements before he retires, and quite possibly much more than that. Yes, can you go broke with that much money, but only if you spend it stupidly and wastefully, like the Antoine Walkers of the world. From what I gather, Albert lives in a modest house and tries to give back to the community by investing in it rather than giving handouts. That’s smart, and will give him the opportunity to make dollars down the road. Magic Johnson is 100X wealthier right now than he was when he retired from basketball.
That’s not even getting into money management. If Albert sets aside just $10M per season in TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities) for the next 10 years, he will earn somewhere between $2-$3M in interest each year with the safest possible long term investment vehicle. That’s more money, in interest, than I will most likely earn in my lifetime. Most families would like to have a nest egg that size when they retire, Albert could earn that in interest on 1/3 of his income, while still having that $100M sitting there in basically risk free investments.
As Brewsters Millions proved, you can burn through a shitload of money, but it takes a lot of work to do so. I could burn through $5M pretty easily I think, but $300M? I mean, that takes some serious work, unless you give it all to a guy named Madoff. As long as he’s not greedy and makes safe investments, that $100M contract set him and his entire extended family up for the next 100 years.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Gah.
That’s not even getting into money management. If Albert sets aside just $10M per season in TIPS (Treasury Inflation Protected Securities) for the next 10 years, he will earn somewhere between $2-$3M in interest each year after those ten, for the rest of his life and beyond, with the safest possible long term investment vehicle. That’s more money, in interest, than I will most likely earn in my lifetime. Most families would like to have a nest egg that size when they retire, Albert could earn that in interest on 1/3 of his income, while still having that $100M sitting there in basically risk free investments.
I deleted a sentence here
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
yeah, he'll probably be fine
i don’t see him as some sort of antoine walker (who, for the record, made $99m)
but i don’t think that gives us any sort of leeway as far as not paying him the inevitable ryan howard +5/yr contract.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
No, I don't either
But making the claim that he “needs” this money because his career will end at age 40 is ludicrous.
I could take care of my entire extended family just on what he’ll draw from his players pension, which also pays for health insurance for his immediate family.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think they will get an extension worked out shortly after season's end.
In the Straussicorn interview with DeWitt, DeWitt said that they had some discussions during Spring Training, but that both sides decided it would be best to wait until after the season to pick up negotiations. I believe DeWitt also described this offseason as the best time to get an extension done.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I have to congratulate Mr. Pujols on his choice of suit.
I have one just like it. Well, it looks like it anyway. I seriously doubt that we shop in the same stores.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I know we were talking about Amazon Prime a few days back
fyi, Amazon is offering a free year of Prime to college students, no strings attached
The Boss died, just now.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
no, not that one. I can't spell Steinbrenner
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The King is dead, Long live the King!!!
Sorry, that was my medaeval English Sensibilites coming through.
Seriously though, damn, thats really really sad, that guy was the Yankees, as much as i dislike the Evil Empire he was pretty important.
Nightmare about having to rehire Billy Martin?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Why do I think that George Costanza was involved?
'Real women know that the way to a man's heart...is through a melee attack!' - KB
Formerly known as The_teague
by Heisenberg on Jul 13, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's too bad.
There is no question that he left his mark on the game. While I’m not a Yankee fan, I have family who are, and I imagine most folks are happy that he went out as a World Series champion. And, as the comments here demonstrate, the Seinffeld Steinbrenner stuff is awesome.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
One of his greatest moments:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/george-steinbrenner-fires-tigers,2064/
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
So am I the only one
considering not watching the All Star game? I know it’s only a pebble in an ocean, but eff Bud Selig and his this time it counts crap (again). I hate everything that this spectacle has turned in to.
I’m sure I will still end up watching it, but it will be mostly to see how bad Chollie eff’s everything up, and hoping Carp and Waino aren’t lit up.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
ASG or Deadliest Catch...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
Deadliest Catch reruns, right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a friend in town and we're getting coffee at 7:00,
which means I’ll miss Pujols’s PA, which means I may or may not tune in when I got home. Playing high school baseball (which is a summer sport in Iowa) caused me to miss nearly ever ASG, and I’ve never really gotten back into watching. Of course, I watched every minute of coverage in St. Louis, but, other than last year, I don’t really watch that much of the game these days.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm about as interested in the ASG as I would be in any other mildly-interesting matchup of non-Cards teams.
It doesn’t help that I don’t find either starting pitcher incredibly compelling and none of the players really stay in for long anyway. Might tune in about half way through.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
same, the fact that Price and Ubaldo are starting turns me off a lot
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why I was in favor of Strasburg making the game
How many more people would watch if he were starting? A LOT
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
im sorry that would be ridiculous
i don’t care how good he’s been or how many people he would attract, that’s just not fair at all to some other pitcher that made it
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 13, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
ehh
you’re telling me he doesn’t deserve it more than Arthur Rhodes or Meek, or Kuo?
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
im not for relief pitchers either for the record
but i don’t just don’t see why a guy with 7 starts should top a guy with 17….
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 13, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he's been the best pitcher in baseball over those 7 starts
1.99 xFIPs don’t happen.
Not afraid to nitpick
i still am not convinced, so im want to agree to disagree here
if it was some no-name producing a 1.99 xFIP, i doubt there would be as much push for him to make it (not saying this has ever been done, but if it was)
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 13, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, but just cause he's hyped isn't a reason to exclude him
because shockingly it turns out he actually wasn’t overhyped (or at least not much)
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
based on his current stats, he's actually been underhyped
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but SSS - i know, i know, but I don't see him keeping up a 1.99 xfip for the season.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
of course not
But as of today, he’s pitched better than the hype. By the way, his projections aren’t too far off his current numbers.
THT Forecast’s projects a 2.53 ERA going forward (subscription required).
They were the most optomistic about Strasburg at the start of the season, projecting a 2.86 ERA to start the season:
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/tht-forecasts-updated/
They look to be dead on so far.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Super strikeout, pitch to groundball-y contact when it happens with command!
Fastest fastball, most RPM curveball and a 31% Whiff changeup. I mean, my god.
Not afraid to nitpick
And you didn't like his changeup velocity
tisk, tisk,tisk. That was the pitch I was all over after his debut!
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem is that there are no no-names who put up xFIP's of 1.99 in 7 starts
SSS yes, but that’s the kind of thing you can’t luck into. Secondly, yeah, the reason people want Strasburg in the All Star game is because he projects to pitch so well in the future.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Also Strasburg has pitched more innings than Rhodes this year
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he deserves it more than rhodes
i think they should have just let zimmerman in instead of stuffing pitchers in… or some other hitter maybe
idk there are too many All-Stars if a rookie who pitched 7 starts has a viable case over about 10 guys
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 13, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Omar Infante totally deserved the all-star nod
by jd is legend on Jul 13, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
my point exactly
i don’t see why there are 30+ All-Stars if you could make a case against 10 of them (in each league no less)
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 13, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not fair that it's only taken him 7 starts to prove definitively that he's better than the last pitcher on the roster?
Not afraid to nitpick
Some are of the view that the All Star game should reward pitchers who were good in the first half
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Meek is the only Pirates rep though
Or is he on the Nationals? I don’t really give a shit.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't give a shit about the All Star game anyway
I’m just tuning in to see Pujols, Yadi and Holilday hit, and Wainwright hopefully get some goddamn respect from the announcers.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
In 2008 he missed June and July with the finger thing
and in 2009 he was 10-5 3.01, which was All-Star worthy but not as outstanding as his second half (9-3, 2.10.)
So mostly bad timing.
I'll probably just DVR it
then fast forward through and watch the Cards’ appearances.
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jul 13, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
so i am seeing this alex gonzalez for brendan ryan trade rumor
I really hope iit doesn’t happen but its all over the place now. . .thanks a lot joe strauss if this trade happens I’m blaming you. ….like someone said yesterday this would be the ultimate buy high, sell low trade.
by mick311 on Jul 13, 2010 11:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I feel the need to make a
“Leave Boog alone” you tube. Thankfully, I don’t have time to embarrass myself like that.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
neither does Brendan Ryan
do it!
IHB got a restraining order for the love letter, so we’re out of options.*
…. just like Brendan Ryan!!†
*not really
† really.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
the crazy thing is espn is reporting that Atlanta is also interested in Gonzalez...
That’s really wierd b/c it seems like Yunel Escobar, even though he’s struggled this year, has a lot more value than alex gonzalez. I’d be happy with us getting escobar, that would be a great buy low guy. . .
by mick311 on Jul 13, 2010 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
three way trade?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
They are sick of Yunel
We probably wouldn’t have to give up too much to get him
by jd is legend on Jul 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That would make this so much better
Yunel’s ISO disappeared (he wasn’t exactly a power hitter before but he had way more than he has this season) and his BABIP dropped too. He has still managed to put up a decent OBP (.334 or something like that) this year, and he plays good defense according to the metrics. Awesome buy low guy.
I now defer to others for the man stew arguments.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it's probably been said
but I don’t have time to look through previous threads.
I’m convinced Holliday waited until the last out to start hitting home runs to prove to VEB that he could hit in high pressure situations. I’m expecting a big second half from him.
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Second Half Matt!
a 2ndHalfMatt screenname is inevitable.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You certainly have an affinity
towards donning the number 2 in your screenames
I want the Walrus back...
Doc's kid
from poutine to cheesesteak… bet he has a heater, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
audio of what seems like a match to the link above
will it have DanUp’s deep voice?
http://cardsdiaspora.com/2010-articles/july/ozzie-smith-answers-your-questions.html
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wow. Just wow.
Jose Bautista has 24 home runs!?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
yup
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
how freakin awesome is it that Ozzie Smith talked to VEB!
super wizardly awesome, is how
also, as much as I didn’t like him, RIP Steinbrenner. he is the prototypical baseball owner, and was practically the voice of god in seinfeld
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions
Albert is expecting a monster second half
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
Hopefully he can deal with the K issue
I’m not terribly optimistic though; I expect him to do only slightly better in the second half.
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
if he ends up being over 1.000 OPS I have no room to complain
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
not that I do anyway, but y'know, figure of speech or whatever
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure if this was posted already but here it is anyway
http://www.fangraphs.com/community/index.php/call-up-time-brett-wallace/
would any team want Overbay? not familiar with him as a player
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
He's an average-ish defender and an average-ish offender
He’s been worth basically 2.0 WAR every year of his career.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I can't imagine a team would want Overbay.
He is a 33-year-old first baseman who has a .323 wOBA and .745 OPS. (That said, his career OPS is .807 and it was .836 last aseason. His career wOBA is .336 and last season was .363.)
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
if you had a black hole at first he might be useful
I don’t know which contenders that matches right now, though.
he sounds like he would just be a pinch hitter
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If he could, he wouldn't be playing 1B
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
lol
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
are we talking about baseball
or sex?
Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
like Seattle?
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
weren't they trying to get Branyan back?
hahahahahah
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
They did get Branyan back
For 2 C prospects
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
oh
whoops. still they shoulda just signed the guy!
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They couldn't
His asking price was too high at the start of the offseason, when we wanted to resign him. He wanted 3 guaranteed years, which the front office wasn’t willing to give
It only came down wayyyyyyy later when Cleveland finally signed him. We wanted him the whole time, we just had to wait for the right price
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
he was kinda blocked by that Albert guy though...
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, seriously, what's he ever done besides destroy a radio station?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
by TBender on Jul 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and blow up a giant "I"
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 13, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically,
Pujols is past his prime, if we accept that his prime was 28 or 29.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Nobody wanted Adam LaRoche this offseason
and he’s a rich man’s Lyle Overbay.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
the giants wanted him
but he wanted to hold out for less money
worked out for the giants, too
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Every time I visit VEB today
I get a laugh out of the pic and the caption. Heh.
Chuck Armstrong sent out an email today saying that he wants the offices closed at 4:00
So that we can get home and watch the ASG. This job rocks.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
mysterui, mysterui!!
can you comment on Ichiro’s media day wardrobe?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I have it on good authority that he, in true Brendan Ryan-like fashion, will wear a man thong in order to
conjure up some good juju for the game. And then he will berate the entire team with obscenities like he always does.
Also: I’m now officially job shadowing the advance scout/statistician for next Monday’s game. We’ll get dinner beforehand, grab a drink, and then he’ll show us what he does for the CWS game
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
so does it explain
Didn't see that picture.
Hm. I don’t know. He’s just a weird, idiosyncratic man.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
good answer
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So Luddy & Freese probably won't play this week
and our black-hole offense continues at SS, 2B, & C
So if you were Mo, what would you do?
1. Stay with the hand you have
2. Take four: Discard Stav, Miles, LaRue, and Winn for Craig, Mather, Anderson & whoever
3. Make a deal for a bat & an arm
I like option #2 myself, but I don’t know who’s available for #3.
I’m scared Mo will choose door #1.
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Not Sure....
- will be any better than #1, and I don’t see #3 really being an option, except maybe for an arm off the scrap heap
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Oh, I'm pretty sure #2 would top #1
(assuming you meant you doubt 2 is better than 1)
or even only dropping Stav + Miles…
I don’t know about 3 because of potential minor league depletion…
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
I want to say yes... let me check.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's a yes.
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/jul/06/minor-league-notebook-several-players-turn-quality/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
damn
so i guess we don’t have any internal options. except tyler greene is doing fine. they need to call up craig.
i am not opposed to an IF of Lopex, Greene, Skip, Pujols / Lopex Boog Greene Pujols
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Tyler has been hitting
but his defense at SS is scaring the hell out of me. I want Boog back.
Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
whew, I'm so ill I've lost control of the sensemobile
Does anyone get the feeling AJ is going to be the one doing the negotiating…?
Meanwhile, here is AJ (in the background) shirking his babysitting duties.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
AJ protects his interests
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jul 13, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
J.A. Pujols, One Tough Lawyer.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.
"No more questions! Give my man room!"
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
rec'd
for the caption
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
The Tyler Greene experiment seems to be going okay...
why the talk of trading for a shortstop?
Fire La Russa!
i can't believe i didnt realize boog just needs to be avenged!
i’m working on this.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
In 57 PAs,
he has a wOBA of .347 and an OPS+ of 112.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
does he have the grit requried though?
im not sure he does…..
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 13, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Greene has been pretty decent aside from a couple defensive mistakes...
But from the few interviews I’ve heard from Mozeliak (last night especially in ktrs) he made it seem like the cards are intent on adding some sort of bat, and right now MI (especially SS) looks like the spot to upgrade. Its really too bad though that the team has so many guys struggling on offense and b.ryan doesn’t have anymore options. It seems like they have given up on him, he has lost his stating job and is the rumor of trades. I hope the cards don’t trade him for gonzalez, I think that would be a really bad move.
by mick311 on Jul 13, 2010 3:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not to step on VEP's toes
but there is some Pitch F/x stuff at FR on Miller and Sanchez’s Futures Game performances…it’s been tabulated by steve sommer….good stuff….click hizzy
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
That guy we gave a lot of money in the offseason to protect albert is dead to me...DEAD TO ME
maybe one of you can anwer my question
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
That guy we gave a lot of money in the offseason to protect albert is dead to me...DEAD TO ME
I answered over at FR, but it's in moderation because I included a link
Good baselines for avg movement http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/7/18/953255/graph-of-the-day-average-spin
I’d say that -10 horizontal is a lot, but definitely not unheard of.
by stevesommer05 on Jul 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
For example, AJ Burnett's two-seamer gets about 10 inches horizontal
There is also a distinct possibility that the cameras for that game weren’t calibrated correctly, an addition to sample size restraints, so the Pitch f/x data for that game doesn’t really mean much, but it’s still fun to look at.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It would have the same "Park Factors"
as normal Anaheim games right? not that I know what those are… just saying it shouldn’t be any less reliable than a normal Anaheim should it?
by stevesommer05 on Jul 13, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure
I wouldn’t be surprised if the system wasn’t set up exactly like it normally would be for an Angel’s game. Besides, you get Pitch f/x fluctuations all of the time even outside of the normal “park factors”.
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
how would it be setup differently?
isn’t it just a series of cameras?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
yes, but tiny differenes in the angle/placement of the cameras can have an effect on the data
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
switched out for up-and-coming cameras down in the minors
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Yeah I'll taking regular scouting on this one
95 with life, we’ll leave it at that, and the most 19-year-old looking curve I’ve ever seen.
Not afraid to nitpick
It's just one curve though, can't really make a judgement
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he did it on purpose
so they would know it was coming and feel even worse when they couldn’t hit it?
(I haven’t seen it)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
?
the most 19-year-old looking curve I’ve ever seen
do curveballs age like wine or the same as people?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
i think he means
that most 19 year olds have about as much control of their curveball as they do their genitalia.
Carry the battle to them. Don't let them bring it to you. Put them on the defensive and don't ever apologize for anything.
I miss throwing curveballs at age 19
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Are you referring to the curveball or the genitalia?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
well, at least I don't have to do it now
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought it was supposed to be up
yesterday afternoon…….
/TWSS.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Three minute scene from "The Last Airbender"
…Yeah, it really is THAT bad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwccNqklC_k
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
watch the animation instead!
it came first, it’s a masterpiece, and it was not meant to be someone’s storyboard.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
DanUp would like it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it was okay
certainly nothing i’ll ever seek out to watch again
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I hated that movie
I know, everyone disagrees with me. But I’m not sure why everyone seems to think the symbolism was anything but forced as hell, the characters were anything more than caricatures (is Eastwood ever going to play a non-Dirty-Harry character?), and the acting was anything above high-school-play level. I spent much of the movie laughing at things that weren’t supposed to be funny.
The One Trick Pony
has officially run out of tricks.
I love it when M. Night does an interview and gets all pissy when people call him a one trick pony. About how most of his films don’t have a twist or a reveal in them. Yah, like all the shitty ones he’s made, lol.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
The previews to Airbender have been painfully bad
Bland, boring stuff. It does appear to be a break from the contrived story lines of Lady in the Water, etc., which were trying to be charmingly allegorical, or something.
The success of Sixth Sense seemed to give M. Night the artistic license to explore elaborate, modern, metaphysical fables—that only inspire him. Has any other major director had this kind of career trajectory in terms of critical acceptance:
by ncgostl on Jul 13, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Can you PLEASE do a fanpost on this and compare to other directors?
Or, I dunno, submit it too a movie website or something?
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I request:
Chris Nolan
Martin Scorsese
Judd Apatow
Steven Spielberg
Y’know. The big ones.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Since Mysterui...
got us started on M. Night’s latest movie, I thought VEB readers would enjoy some data. Sorry if my commentary made it less appropriate for VEB.
Thanks for letting us know you liked Gran Torino!
...I thought he was serious. Wasn't he?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
You should see my May 2010 essay...
….in Cineaste showing how Wes Craven appropriated and then rejected Frank Capra’s vision of middle class America.
I really liked Unbreakable the most of his movies.
The Last Airbender had quite possibly the worst writing I have ever heard.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Blind guess
- Renny Harlin: Made Die Hard 2……and then nothing but shit, including fucking up the best action movie script on the history of the planet (The Long Kiss Goodnight).
- Joel Schumacher: Hasn’t made a good movie since A Time To Kill (I guess it depends on what you think of 8MM though), and his flops include the horrific Batman and Robin.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I still liked The Long Kiss Goodnight
Great writing.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
It was ok
You read the script though and you see what kind of movie it could have been. Shane Black is amazing and only one or two directors has ever been good enough to translate his scripts into good movies (Lethal Weapon w/Richard Donner and The Last Boy Scout with Tony Scott)
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
it's okay, i'm still laughing too
weren’t you the one who linked it earlier?
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
is that for real? thats not from the onion?
How could they write that. That’s hilarious, I guess its not as bad as ‘tired gay gets beat by dix’
by mick311 on Jul 13, 2010 4:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can someone please follow him and ask this question
“Can you please explain to me how the F%$^ you are better than Colby Rasmus this year?”
by vivaelpujols on Jul 13, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm
“"Can you please explain to me how the F%$^ you are better than Colby Rasmus Jaime Garcia this year?"
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
it would make no sense to me if a position player won the NL ROY
in the year of the bp pitcher
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
Well, the guy is going to be a HoFer!
Gotta give it to him!
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
If he's gonna be a HOF'er, he'd better step it up for the rest of his career.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
But....but...Espn told me he was going to be a HoFer.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
And we all know that FESPN is the final authority on all things HOFer.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
That’s some riveting stuff right there. So glad I took the time to read it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
There can be only one.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Urgent query
To give Yadi some rest, couldn’t we play Luis Pujols at catcher for once and shift Yadi to first?
אנא טוני לא יותר ט.א.ס.ס
I don't know when the last was that I read anything that had
1. The Orioles firmly in control of the AL East.
2.Made mention of both the Pilots and Senators.
3. Reported on “Little” Joe Morgan (the ballplayer) and Pete Rose(the ballplayer).
4. Made mention of Larry Dierker being a “winning pitcher”.
The last one is just purely for the use of “winning pitcher” terminology.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Always good to see an Old Hoss Radborn reference, too
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Yah, When was the last time you saw that?
I laughed when I read the part about Hank Aaron only hitting 600-650 HRs.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jul 13, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What no mention of the near guarantee
that the Cubs were going to break their (only) 61 year string of no WS titles?
by ArkansasTravs on Jul 14, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
This marketing campaign by Old Spice is fucking brilliant
http://www.twitter.com/OldSpice
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
wow, I haven't been this ill in a long time
I’m gonna lock myself out of the basement and hole up with my bottle of juice. have fun.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
NL finally won!
world series home advantage!!
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jul 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT reply actions
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