(2010 Draft Open Thread): choosing up sides 2010
by lboros on Jun 7, 2010 1:40 PM EDT
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Printhowdy folks. on draft day last year i wrote a post about luhnow's first four years of draft dividends, compared to the harvests from the three previous four-year periods. the quick n dirty of that post (the whole thing is here, if'n you want to read ev'y word) was that luhnow would probably end up with three to five everyday players out of his 2005-2008 drafts, plus a gaggle of part-time players --- a good but not great rate of return, compared to the recent past.
with another year's worth of development time, we can now see how things are shaping up with greater clarity:
| 2005-08 | 2001-04 | 1997-00 | 1993-96 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| STARS | ???? | dan haren | albert pujols jd drew |
matt morris |
| REGULARS | colby rasmus jaime garcia chris perez |
skip schumaker brendan ryan daric barton |
adam kennedy yadi molina jack wilson chris duncan coco crisp rick ankiel |
placido polanco alan benes braden looper |
| PART-TIMERS | luke gregerson mitchell boggs |
kyle mclellan joe mather brad thompson anthony reyes jason motte |
bud smith mike crudale pablo ozuna |
eli marrero jay witasick cliff polite britt reames chris richard kerry robinson brent butler |
since i wrote that post last year, rasmus established himself as an everyday player, and garcia and chris perez have all but done the same. (to refresh your memory, a pitcher is considered "everyday" if he holds a regular rotation slot or is a regular closer.) meanwhile a couple of relief pitchers drafted by luhnow (gregerson and boggs) have become pretty well established as big-league middle relievers, which puts them in the "part-time" category. we may debate whether nick stavinoha merits the "part-time" designation or whether he is still just replacement-level filler (i would argue the latter), but no matter --- we'll probably know which box to put him into by this time next year. for that matter, we'll be better able to gauge 2005-08 draftees such as brett wallace, adam ottavino, jon jay, allen craig, etc etc. we may also know whether rasmus is bound for "star" billing on this table.
those paying attention will note that the 2001-04 ranks have been beefed up by the maturation of daric barton and brendan ryan into everyday big-leaguers. at this time last year neither one merited the title; i feel confident in bestowing it on ryan despite his early-season slump, and barton is finally delivering on his high-OBP promise (his .397 figure for 2010 ranks 6th in the AL as of this morning). at this time last year the cards' 2001-04 drafts had only produced two big-league regulars (haren and schumaker); as of today, those drafts look a lot more presentable.
check back a year from now . . . . .
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Hey lboros...
I would say Rasmus is a star right now, and Barton is soon to not be a regular. Yes the OBP is fine but you can’t have a first baseman with below average defense and a sub-400 slugging. They’ll need to upgrade that.
Also, it’s worth pointing out Luhnow never had picks as high as those that netted Drew and Morris. Considering the return/performance of Wallace and others lurking in the minors, I’d say Luhnow is looking quite good.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
I was thinking Garcia over Rasmus as the star
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
As awesome as he's been, it seems premature to give him the star label after only two months.
Now Brad Thompson, on the other hand…. My wife would also be upset that Yadi isn’t listed as a star, but I think she has somewhat different criteria than lboros.
I think Chris Perez is now being used as Wood’s set-up man in Cleveland, not as their closer, so he maybe belongs in the “part-timers” category. But that’s a very minor quibble, especially since he’ll probably be back to closing when Wood’s arm falls off again next month.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 7, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
barton has been worth 1.4-1.8 WAR (fangraphs/b-r) so far
with defense that’s -0.5 to 3 between UZR and RZR. His OPS is 129. That’s not a problem at first.
I wonder about that UZR...
he just looks so bad in the field…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
yeah i think rasmus has hit the "star" level
he’s going to top 4 WAR this year and you’d expect that to be the sort of production he’ll make going forward.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 7, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
dunno about those
But Molina is not in the same company as adam kennedy and chris duncan, whether he would quality as a ‘star’ or not.
But the fact that he’d be an improvement on basically any team he went to besides minnesota puts him pretty easily in the ‘star’ category, or at least requires some kind of explanation.
worse - tonight's SP
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Is Anthoney Reyes still pitching in the Majors?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Tommy John'd
on the 60 day DL, i believe
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Molina is working himself into the star catagory.
Many consider him the best defensive catcher in the league and all know his golden arm, he’s got a few GG now, and he’s about to make his 2nd straight AS appearance (fingers crossed). I think there is a case for Yadi being a star catcher right now.
I'd say he's a star
he’s starting to be thought of as the go-to all star catcher in the NL
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I think so
if Franklin Gutierrez can be a top player by being a good defensive CFer and an average hitter, than Yadi can definitely be a star as an average hitter and good defensive catcher. He was worth an average of about 3.5 WAR over the last two seasons, which doesn’t take into account the fact that most catcher/framing metrics also have him above average.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The category would simply be called...
Pujols until someone proves worthy of being in the same class as AP.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
...
hope there is no tlr-soup reunion.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
I wouldn't bet against it...
what with us so badly needing a 5th starter and all.
The first part I’m dead serious about…the latter is sarcasm (at least to me).
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
DFA MIles and make Soup a utility infielder, outfielder, 20-inninbg pitcher
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Don't forget...we keep our quota of facial hair with this move as well
swapping one fu manchu for another.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think we have this topic covered pretty well
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Bryce Harper
“I want to face C.C. Sabathia because he is a left and he is nasty. I love facing lefties. If Chase Utley could do it, I think I can”
… dick
I want the Walrus back...
i'm thinking his first choice is whoever had first pick
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
And will pony up eleventy billion dollars to sign him
That said, the Nats will be good by the time he’s up. I’m guessing they have him in the minors all of next year and he might be up in 2012. They’ll have a middle of the order with him and Zimmermann, a rotation with Strasburg and Jordan Zimmermann and Storen cleaning up, and quite a lot of money to add free agents. They’ll be one of the best teams in the NL within 2-3 years, I think.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed all around, and i like their young ss too
i’m rooting for them in the sense it’s good for baseball
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
because the fewer pirates and more competitive teams
the better for baseball, imo. especially when a team has two young players who will generate the most interest for a long time – i think it’s better they aren’t on a crap team.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ian Desmond
yeah he’s been impressive. They have a really good young nucleus building.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
truly ... which thread are we in?
anyway, lineups: BJRains Hawksworth on the mound RT@Fox_Sports_MW: Lopez 3B, Ryan SS, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Ludwick RF, Winn CF, Skip 2B, Larue C, Hawksworth P 3 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yikes
had we been shown that before the season started and told this will be your lineup for the first game of a series against the dodgers in game 50-something i think there would have been a great sense of dread around here.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
seeing Miles run out there live, seconds after Winn's AB
… I’m beyond shock.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is the single worst lineup i've ever seen
but now that i’m already expecting to lose 10-0, why is albert even playing? sit him, put stav at 1B, hit holliday leadoff, and have some fun.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Luke Gregerson has the 3rd lowest FIP in baseball among relivers
Dude is rocking a 16.50 K/BB ratio which is good for 2nd right behind Ryan Franklin’s 17 K/BB.
I hate Khalil Greene
the guy looked unhittable against us
Khalil Greene trade was soooo bad.
Is there anything definitive on Rasmus’ injury status, I can’t find anything on the P-D website.
yeah
that really freakin sucks!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I think he should be down as a regular, now. He’s not a closer in name but he’s a better pitcher than many closers around the leagues, including probably ours.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:31 AM EDT up reply actions
This is always nice to see....
Cardinals farm system ranked 29th according to Baseball America.
20 minutes away from 1st pick
I want the Walrus back...
But somehow out of that horribe farm system
We have 2 ROY candidates
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and a second-year player who should get some MVP votes
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
And our entire infield...
including the catcher, and our best pitcher, and via trade Matt Holliday.
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
to be fair
none of the guys above count as being in our farm system now. It’s actually pretty weak (although a few good starts to the year from several players have boosted it in the last two months, I think, and getting Mattias and Cox, if both sign, is great news, as I think they’re now our #2 and #3 prospects, quite probably).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions
live - Mike Juhl, Cards scout for what sounds like the NE
talking about the scoutin’ life.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Fired up
I’ll be tracking this draft with interest. I saw some of these guys in HS for the 2007 draft.
Let’s take Harvey with our first pick.
Good news, guys! Bryce Harper loves to play baseball
unlike so many other first-round draft picks
blarg
ha
and to get a free ride to stanford – those are the only reasons he plays
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I would take the free ride
but then again, I don’t have baseball skills that will net me (in a single signing bonus) more than most people make in a lifetime.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Bryce Harper goes to the Nationals
as first overall pick.
In other news, water’s wet… and oily in the Gulf.
I want the Walrus back...
His swing load is a lot less than what I had seen
His lower half is crazy explosive.
Not afraid to nitpick
Thinking Grandal at 4 for the Royals
even with the signability issues.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Actually, I think he says
he hears the Royals will take Chris Sale.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Ahhh, I was looking at his most recent mock
He says: UPDATE: Hearing the Royals will be taking Chris Sale.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
today someone had grandal going to us
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ugh, Colon at 4
the Royals really are in a world of shit.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions
who do we want to grab from the draft?
it better be someone super secret, cause 3 pics in the top 50 and 25th doesn’t sound too good
Baseball has so many busts
Even in the top 15. Take quantity and best available talent.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not so bad, really.
I think we’re willing to take some signability risks on this draft.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i'd like to see Matheny anywhere
but seriously, why not have a representative of the club announce the pick? i think that would be so much better
And does he have to repeat that whole thing for every pick?
With the (No.) Pick of the 2010 First Year Player Draft, the (team) select (player, position, school, city, state). The (team) have the next pick and are now on the clock.
I want the Walrus back...
Okay NOW we can start guessing what the next pick will be
I’m betting on Chris Sale
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Mayo and KLaw both say Colon
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
pirates took taillon and o's took the hs ss, right?
and we’re waiting on kc?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
not waiting on kc, apparently.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Is Machado comparable to A-Rod?
Well he’s Dominican born and grew up in Miami.
Not afraid to nitpick
Hah
there are better comparisons. Namely that Machado is a power-hitting shortstop that is likely to move to third.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
hahaha wow
can’t believe I didn’t see that.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
Heeeeeere's Nicky...
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions
The Royals pick is unpredictable
Because they took the best player on the board the past 3 years.
Not afraid to nitpick
took Colon
/spoiler
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
They took Colon.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
KC was probably looking for someone who could come up quickly.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I can understand that.
Want someone that can contribute right when all their young talent blossoms, like Butler, Kaiuhue…..uhhh……
The Royals have young talent….right?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Well, Greinke already developed, so I didn't count him.
Completely forgot Moustakas though.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
i think colon is an overdraft, talent-wise
but he could play for them tomorrow, so there’s that. if freeze hadn’t worked out, i’d definitely talk to them about gordon.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Klaw had him at 18 and BA at #7
Just a bit of a reach, but not horrible.
My question is, why demote Gordon to AAA when you aren’t competing in any way?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
because tlr?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
okay okay, so I've got one wrong so far.
I got Drew Pomeranz here.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I would say Pomeranz as well.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
you win.... nothing, because nobody bet anything.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
....Yay?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
are you blocked?
we’re watching online
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Oh no, I am watching the draft
I am talking about MLB Network in my local cable. You know, everyday, every night…
/mouth waters
I want the Walrus back...
ah
towel?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and that was during the offseason.
lots of old all star games and random world series games and stuff. so awesome.
It's cool for the visual
but, imo, the analysis you can find online for free is probably better and more in depth.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
*disclaimer
I know very little about Loux but he’s been connected to Arizona, so I think they’ll overdraft him
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Arizona definitely takes a pitcher.
Don’t know which 1 though.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
So, if they draft you out of HS
and you do sign, you never go to college?
I’m guessing this guy was drafted out of HS
I want the Walrus back...
that's cruel, dude
but very funny. nfl can’t draft a guy until he’s 3 yrs. removed from high school, so like this guy most go to college for awhile.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
rumor - Delino DeShields Jr to Astros.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he's supposedly moved up a lot recently
do the stros have another first round pick?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Matt Harvey to Mets
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
btw, how did Winn look yesterday?
had to miss the game to Pointfest, where I kept checking on the game
and when and why exactly was Miles taken out of the game?
winn hit two flies to left
one was a sac. miles was ph for with skip after a pitching change, i believe.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He was taken out because they put in a RH reliever
for Skippeh.
Winn hit a sac fly, and hit another fly to left with RISP. Not bad, I guess, and didn’t screw up that bad defensively.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
actually made a pretty decent play, didn't he?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, he did.
I just think they weren’t anything we would expect Ludwick or Rasmus to miss.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Tsk Tsk Tsk.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
"I was about seven years old when I started swinging my first wood" - harper
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Three predictions for the Cards' pick
Baseball America – Yasmani Grandal
FESPN – Stetson Allie
Baseball Prospectus – Brett Eibner
I want the Walrus back...
wouldn't mind allie
unless he’s expected to be there later
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
what happens if someone picks someone super secret
and the mlb network has no info on him?
awkward silence and then commercial?
cut to Bryce Harper.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 7, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
these are all american and canadian players
you don’t have to draft others, you can just sign them
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
thanks for clarification
so just send some boats and goats to cuba, mexico and the such and return with a boat full of infielders
my possibly inaccurrate recollection
Of the triangular trade routes from junior high means we have to send some rum to western europe before we get the infielders.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Jun 7, 2010 9:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
pass the rum, tom.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh wow.
That was a bigtime overdraft. Two wrong now.
Michael Choice here.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
delino deshields was my favorite player besides ray lankford back in the day
dude could get around the bases like nobody’s business.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
wasn't he traded for pedro?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
In my (extremely limited) experience someone described as
“Toolsy… with the potential to be a very good hitter”
Shouldn’t really go 8th overall
But hey, we could be wrong, i mean the astros have a good history of developing talent
oh wait; AHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAaa
i'm not going to try to spell that pick for the Padres.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sounds like a physicist
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
more biologist, actually
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
marine biologist?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Michael Choice
fo real.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
just got back
Colon #4 to the Royals!!! Holy crap…what a reach
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
DeShields
Least Colon was expected to be a first rounder, and BA had him at #7.
Deshields…however.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
well, everyone knew the astros were gonna take him
it was just a matter of when
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
But why not pick him at 19?
He’s most likely going to be available there anyway.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
is that
- where he was rated talent-wise, or based on who they thought would take him in the draft, in this case the team with the seventh pick?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Talent-wise I believe.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
supposed to say number seven instead of that one
must be an sbn thing
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
michael choice
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
A's.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oops
read that wrong
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
deck mcguire who's not spelled mcgwire
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
too bad it's not stav's first name
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
...Gammons says Utley to HOF?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
why not
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
well obviously if he stops playing baseball tommorrow
he won’t be…but looking at how players like him normally decline, you’ve got to think he will have a really good shot of putting up the type of numbers that get people elected…being a 2nd baseman doesn’t hurt
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
not quite the same
odds are utley is in (barring rolen-esque injury, whereas waino would be a much longer shot
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I just wasn't sure I was hearing him
i’ve gotten out of practice listening to the marbles in his cheeks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ha
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
these poor kids are kind of stunned. kind of a bad time to interview.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I love the MLB Draft
The interviews with these guys are PRICELESS. Sooo awkward.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
it's not quite Hollihead
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Man Bryce Harper seems like a tool
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
he's a right fielder now
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Only if Boras gets his way
What am i saying, he’s a s good as DH if Boras gets his way (which he will)
I'm pretty sure the Nats aren't going to be too influenced by what Boras wants outside of the $$$
Not afraid to nitpick
They could be hypnotized by one of his PPT's.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
not saying he influenced them just because he wanted it
but they drafted him to play right, according to the gm.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Don't really know if that is Harper
I can see the puppet strings and Boras closely behind.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
are you serious?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
if HOF stands for....
Hall of Fail
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Like Heyward?
A case could be made that some kids who receive way too much hype, under perform. Yet I need stats and examples to back that bold statement
I want the Walrus back...
I hope this doesn't mean you think Heyward is underperforming.
If he is, I’m scared to be a fan of a National League team for at least the next decade.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that is fucking unbelievable
gammons is losing it. this kid is in fucking high school.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
stop messin' with IHB
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
gammons is slowly going senile, i think.
i used to really like him, but he’s said some crazy ass shit before. i can believe he would do it again.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
the man did have a pretty severe stroke iirc
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
true.
thanks for making me feel like a jerk. this is all TPG’s fault.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
sorry, wasn't sure if you knew
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Gammons -
“Nationals draft Bryce Harper with first overall pick. May play for Boston Red Sox at some undisclosed point in the future”.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions
we'll get a chance to see that....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Don't really see why a team like the Jays goes with a "safe" pick
Its all or nothing in that divison
Plus
They gotta spend that money from losing Rios’ contract on something…..
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Puprle-haze
2010:
First 3 rounds 3-3,
Last 9 rounds 2-9.
“You can see how his production has been less during the last part of this season. He might be getting tired.”
“You know Al, he really is”
I want the Walrus back...
we get to see Barry Larkin.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Reds take Grandal.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
reds
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Torn limb by limb
some guy named Beowulf or something like that.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
by Taskmaster on Jun 7, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
nice
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
then you should've seen his mom
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Callis and Mayo
So wrong
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
sounds like some sort of sandwich
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
mention of Ankiel and Drew
thanks Gammons.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Can someone do a prospective time study
so i’ll about what time the cards will be picking?
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
we're at 25
now at 13
12×2=24 minutes plus give or take a minute for announcement, be here in 27 minutes (so you don’t just miss it)
Wonder if the Brewers will get a chance at Sale.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Nevermind :)
You can all thank me later for making sure they didn’t get a steal.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Meant Chris :)
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Wilson may be around still
if we want to take the risk.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
its a risk worth taking in my opinion
him or castellanos i hope
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
if they aren't around, allie sounds good, but could we get him a little later (probably not)?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm thinking Workman here.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Shelby Miller, btw,
At Quad Cities is struggling. K/BB of 3.86, ERA of 5.12
I want the Walrus back...
he's been pitching pretty well actually
don’t look at the ERA…his k/BB is really nice and his peripherals are tasty
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
And keep in mind, he's not just trying to keep runs off the board
They have him working on things, like throwing his changeup more often, etc.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
exactly
I’ve been very impressed thusfar
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
for real
i’ll take that anytime
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
I didn't know that
I’m just thinking he may have mis-typed and meant K/9, because a K/9 of 3.86 would not be desirable out of our top pitching prospect (or any pitcher, really)
So,
you are saying you don’t want Suppan?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 7, 2010 8:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes!
His clutchiness and proven veteraniness are worth $42MM!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 7, 2010 8:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's to make distinction
between K/BB and ERA
Anyways, his WHIP is 1.474 and gives up 10 hits per 9. Of course, this is numbers. I haven0t seen him pitch.
I want the Walrus back...
Thank you.
I read Miller’s K/BB being cited as evidence of his struggling and I was dumbfounded.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 7, 2010 8:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Dylan Covey for Brewcrew.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
...his face looks like a hamburger.
will fit right in?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
No
but Prince Fielder gets hungry on the bench….
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Just in case anyone was feeling a little sad today
Draft getting you down? Cardinal pick taking too long? Then this bit from Joe Posnanski should cheer you up:
“The Chicago Cubs — apparently unbothered by an outfielder turning 31 years old — gave Alfonso Soriano an eight year, $136 million contract. Soriano periodically has been a good player (and periodically horrific); he’s actually hitting the ball quite well right now. But before next season even begins he will turn 35 and he will still have FOUR YEARS and $72 MILLION left on his deal. That isn’t a contract, that’s a plea bargain.”
by Aranathor on Jun 7, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Joe Poz
is the best in the business, IMO. I read every blog post he writes.
Apparently.
Dylan Covey is a young Matt Cain.
Why not trade the slumping Fielder for Cain himself?!??!
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
...Fielder, Bengie, Sandoval, same team....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mmmm, it would be funny to see some steal attempts from that team.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
They'll need more garlic fries at the ballpark
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
is he from notre dame?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
For Stetson Allie fans
fwiw, Kevin Goldstein said in his chat that there’s a 50/50 chance he’s available for the Phillies at 27. I assume that gives the Cardinals ~50/50 chance at the opp. to pick Allie as well.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
There's a 100% chance he's available after pick 50.
VERY weird. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so many lock top 25 picks still on the board in round 2. I think there’s 4 or 5, and a bunch of top 20 guys fell into the supplementals too.
I guess that’s what happens when the Astros have two top 20 picks…
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Hayden Simpson for small bears
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
from central Arkansas
GOB have mercy on him if he’s a Cards fan.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Southern Arkansas
Not Scottie Pippen’s Central
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Ewwww
Never even heard of the guy.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
He knows how to win.
The Cubs will address that.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Hahaha they used Samardzija as evidence that the Cubs know what they are doing
Not afraid to nitpick
anyone know anything about him?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He's short, reportedly.
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
Jumping in late here, but...
a few comments about Hayden Simpson:
1. while reading through the early posts, someone said it’d be funny if someone picked a player nobody knew anything about, awkward silence, etc. Well, here he is!
2. I also heard them say he was “short” but listed his height as 6’1" (if I heard correctly) Sheesh! since when am I short?
3. Simpson pitched for Southern Arkansas University a small D-II school in the southern (naturally) part of the state. He was, apparently, pretty good as he was the runner-up D-II player of the year in one publications list. SAU had a good team, won their half of the conference and made it to the D-II final 8 or 16 (iirc).
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 8, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
if he's a righty pitcher, at 6-1 they would consider him short
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
then he's tiny
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Such a horrible pick
even if it pans out – they could’ve had him in round 2, easily.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:57 AM EDT up reply actions
he was projected anywhere from round 4-7
their scouting director apparently loved the guy and was afraid of some interest in the supp round, so since he was his guy he took him. we’ll see what happens, but cubbie director also picked halladay and carpenter before he joined the cubs.
bleed cubbie blue went off the rails though:
“Well, all of you have outdone yourselves.
Be proud, those of you who have mocked a kid trying to make his dream come true.
Many of you have acted like 12-year-olds here and egged on those who did. It’s embarrassing.
I am closing comments on this post, and have deleted the most offensive ones. Enough. Those of you who participated in this should be ashamed of yourselves.”
by Al Yellon on Jun 7, 2010
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
whoaaa!!!
simmer down now
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Give the guy a break...
he just loves Cox!
by soil_illini on Jun 7, 2010 8:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
is he the lefty pitcher
or the high school kid?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
high school
chris sale is the pitcher, was take by CWS
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
ah, i liked the pitcher
i think it’s a good pick for chisox
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Manny Machado can't talk right now
He’s being eaten by robots.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
AZRU....leave the kid alone.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Manny Machado is an Autobot.
so that’s cool.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
His swing looks silly
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Popup-ish?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Josh Sale to Rays
apparently pronounced like soleil?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so if he's horrible in the outfield
cirque du soleil?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
couple high school pitchers from their neck of the woods
i think they’d take one of those before allie – just a guess
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Good night guys, i hope the Cards draft good.
All i know is, if we’re still hearing the name of the 2010 25th overall pick in 3-4 years time, i’ll be happy.
GO CRADS
Unless he's been traded to the A's for a quickly deteriorating pitcher.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
/cry in corner
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Considering barely anyone knows who the guy is.....
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
The Twitter feed on the MLB draft site is full of Cubbie angst too.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Just had a mental image of the Cubs clicking the wrong button on their fantasy draft
Hayden Simpson!?! WTF?!1 I didn’t click that!!!!
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
haha like a fantasy draft
it was just the player the Cubs had their cursor hovering over when time ran out
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
how is this not green?
"In the event of a significant release of oil, an accurate estimation of the spill's total volume . . . is essential in providing preliminary data to plan and initiate cleanup operations." - Page 2 of British Petroleum's regional plan for dealing with offshore oil leaks.
Creative pronunciation of LA
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Loss AngelEEZE
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Jun 7, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
An embarrassment to the game, really.
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
Kaleb Cowart for Angels
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Random thought
On these compensation picks and they pretty much have to draft a “signability” guy or they lose the pick, why wouldn’t the supposed “signability” guy just change his mind after he got picked and demand more? Teams lie to players all the time, players lie to teams all the time—-it’s a businesss. Why would this be different?
Not afraid to nitpick
he'd sit a year until the next draft
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yea the entire idea behind shouting that you want extra money is
that only the teams ready to spend that much will draft you.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
I'm not even talking the 4-5M Major League Deals
Does anyone really think a team would let a 1st round pick go because he decided he wanted 200k over slot?
Not afraid to nitpick
Hmm...
I guess they wouldn’t.
But if you’re a top 100 talent, and you want 600k, you can probably get it if you’re patient. Someone will be willing to pay — so why lie?
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
Teams probably predict this
and go for guys that don’t have any other option but to sign with the team, like seniors, or people that will have to wait a year or play in an independent league.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
that's kind of sad, that Delino Jr mentions that his dad wasn't there as much
but he’s still so glad to have a dad who knew what was what, and to help him.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mike Foltynewicz to stros
apparently best pitcher of upper midwest?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Somebody made the Twitter feed...
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Guy expected in the Late 40's
They really must be strapped for cash in the scouting department.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
As in going for signability rather than upside.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
They've had a bad habit lately of not signing picks.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Drayton McClane is just an idiot
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 7, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was going for something less obvious :D
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Rec'd for truth
(but it’s McLane…)
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Hey hey...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i thought of him as a beckham type
but supposedly he can play center – i like their draft so far.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Is there any possible reason for going so slowly...
it’s not like they can trade the picks.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
what's that catcher's name from u of minnesota?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ha
he didn’t go to college. but i’m wondering if the cards are thinking of him at all.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Turned down Florida State though if I remember.
He was also a great QB in HS and plays catcher….go figure.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
gatorade player of the year
twins were supposedly interested in the u of m catcher, but they have a big prospect behind mauer – of course they could trade him and let this guy take his place.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Kvasnicka
From my hometown. Obviously this a few days late. but there’s your answer
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
with the astros now, isn't he?
another odd choice (given they have two decent/good young catchers and are barren every else) but probably the best of their 1st round
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 9, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Castro and who?
Certainly not Towles anymore.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Red Sox get Vitek
Good pick
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
apparently he's gritty.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thought it was the other sox
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
dude..
you’re pushing some serious misinformation here…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Neither do they, so you are right on track.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Don't feel badly.
Neither do they.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 7, 2010 8:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
BJRains: Jim Joyce umping the plate tonight for Cole Hamels, who took a no-no into the seventh inning.
wait a minute...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
ZACH COX ZACH COX ZACH COX COME ON
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
SHHH!
The San Florida Rangers will hear you!!!
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
do you think he would be best talent available, if he were
or do you have another reason?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think he's pretty easily the best talent available
But that’s based on reading other peoples’ mocks. I have no real opinion
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
just wondering
i think he could be, but i still like a couple high schoolers. didn’t know if you liked the position he played, possibly, or what. he can hit, right?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I decided to follow the amateur draft this year
first time, really
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i would like harold to stop saying "not previously drafted"
before i hit him with a blunt object
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
a lot were, though
some guys get drafted 3 times
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Reds down 4-3 to Zito and the Giants
if anyone cares at the moment :).
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
you just knew that wouldn't last
After the Giants left them loaded in the top of the 6th
Yeah, they were doomed at that point.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Ugh. Quit saying The Ohio State University. Seriously. Stop it now.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Miami back in the day was almost as bad.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
To me, not so much...The U is their logo.
And there is a history behind it.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
By the way
Zach Cox won’t get past the Giants methinks.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Good news is there are basically enough players that have "fallen" so far
for the cards to have the chance to get one
including: cox, castellanos, o’conner, cole, allie, wilson, brentz, ranaudo
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
no ranaudo or brentz please
allie, either of the high school outfielders – wilson and the kid from washington – or the minny catcher, or cox.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yea
I wouldn’t mind Brentz (it’d be nice to have some power in the system again, despite the lack of BBs), but i’d much prefer cox castellanos o’conner cole allie or wilson. Hopefully we draft one of them.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
OH MY GOD THREE MORE SPOTS
COX COX COX COX COX COX COX
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
to Rangers.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
watch this guy
the Rangers are great developers of talent. He could be huge.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
rangers and catchers?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
a Canadian!!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I SWEAR TO GOD, IF WE CHEAP OUT AGAIN I'M THROWING SOMETHING
FUCKING DRAFT SOMEONE GOOD
we havent done that in three years
"I throw him four wide ones then try to pick him off first base." - Preacher Roe on Stan Musial
by Shi on Jun 7, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Reds just took the lead.
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
I'm saying Aaron Sanchez
to go with Anibel Sanchez.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
fish take yelich
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ZACK COX ZACK COX ZACK COX
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Sweet!
Salsa lessons cancelled tonight, so I just got back in time to watch the Cards pick
I want the Walrus back...
is the supplemental tonite?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yea
top 50 tonight.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
Who are your top 2 guys remaining?
We are guaranteed to have a shot at taking one.
I’ve got Cox and Castellanos as my top 2 left.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
can't argue
but i really like allie and the washington hs of’er – of course maybe we could get them later?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'll go with you on that one
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i almost hope
/sorry you cox lovers
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You guys weren't exagerating about Selig's suckage.
It’s like he’s reading in a foreign language or something.
i'm not watching
just waiting for the reaction here – it’ll be like a game thread, either jubilation or despair will erupt at once.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Alright!!!!
lets go CARDS
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
(fingers crossed)
Make it good, guys.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
Gary Brown to SF
we on the clock yo
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
OH MY GOD WE HAVE SO MANY OPTIONS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Nobody panic Re: Cox
Everyone stay calm.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
AND SO MUCH MORE ROOM FOR ACTIVITIES!
"If you want some get in line, but bring a lunch mutha f*cka." -Ice Cube
by SethCity on Jun 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
who is that chick in the draft room?
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
Not sure.
But I wish there had been a draft in that draft room.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Jun 7, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, good looking draft room there, Cards.
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
re: lady
check the Christmas tweet with the picture of everyone in reindeer costumes. she was in there IIRC.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i can't, too many windows open.
it’s off the official twitter…. or you can attempt to VEB up search term “reindeer”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
lesee....
http://pikchur.com/KpW
→ http://pikchur.com/Kpy reindeer
http://pikchur.com/MoC
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
maybe she's going to address signability issues for the club?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Jun 7, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
lulz
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
who should we pick
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions
i hope they pick me
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
me me me
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COMMERCIAL
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I've been in the Mariners draft room btw
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
During the draft?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
No. Like a week ago. I took a picture of it on my phone
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Cardinals draft room shot!
Mo pointing at board from other side of room!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tyler Greene was actually pretty toolsy
if i understand correctly
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
How many supplemental picks do we have and to whom did we offer arbitration in order to get them?
Regression, bitches.
Picks from Derosa and Pineiro I believe.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
2 at 46 and 50
De Rosa and pineiro
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
#25 is...
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
Sources say Zach Cox....seriously
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
your sources are good
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
here we go.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
shut up bud
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
shut up bud! announce it!!!
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
Stop with the bullshit, already used car guy!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
Hope you all are happy
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Zach Cox
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
...did we just draft Brett Wallace again?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Slightly more likely to stick at third, but yeah.
Hits like a sumbitch, though.
That depends on what you think about position
I’d say he’s a higher ceiling than Wallace because he could conceivably have a similar power profile (line drive gap power with 15-20 homer upside) AND legitimately play 3B or 2B. Wallace was a good bet to get stuck at 1B when he was drafted.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that was my thought also
A plus arm can make up for mistakes
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
No, the question is whether or not he can play 2B
Pretty confident he can play 3B
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
yeah, with a rookie third baseman
i guess they figured he was best available, so maybe best trade value one day
i’m a little disappointed, but we have a couple picks coming up in the supp
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Quick! To rb's draft preview.
/for those of use not tuned in to the amateur guys.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
That turned out about as well as we could hope.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
did we just draft Brett Wallace?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
his D has gotta be better right?
not as much power it sounds like
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh
walrus didnt have THAT much power anyway…
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
I was him hit one pretty far in QC
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
anyway
the mlb network announcers were saying he didn’t have a ton of power and were theorizing moving him to second or something
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
they ripped him off!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm...
The next pic is Cardinals 1st round draft pick Brett Wallace who is supposed to have great hitting power. Seeing the bat bend from the sheer torque of his swing is amazing, just try to bend a wooden bat by standing on it, it won’t happen. Over the years I have only captured two other Big Leaguers that you can see the bat bend during their swing, Scott Rolen & Albert Pujols.
I want the Walrus back...
maybe i have Barton in my head then...
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
first time i saw him hit
thought he had the most amazing bat speed – this is why i am not a big holliday fan. i’d trade him for wallace today, if only the jays would.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm pretty sure it's a photo if I remember correctly
this pic was around a lot when we had him
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
plus
just look at those forearms
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
any other team would have kept him
but we didn’t really have a place for him it seems. Freese is undoubtedly better at defense at third, and Pujols at first. not sure where else he’d play
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
left
for 17 mil less i’d give him some leeway out there so we could use that money elsewhere. offensively we wouldn’t take a big hit, and he’ll get better too. he and holliday are both doubles hitters with 20+ hr pop.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Got it from a photography site.
And it was fanshot’d a couple of weeks after he was drafted as a pic. So, as far as I know, it’s no capture.
I want the Walrus back...
walrus can smell the wood burn when he fouled one off, i bet
eh, those were the days, paulspike
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Is this before or after contact?
Because I would guess nearly all the bats bend on contact with the ball, especially one with a thin handle like that one.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
wild guess
from his left arm looks like they came inside on him. i’d guess before, but just a guess.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yep
and he has a hell of an arm. He was a pitcher in HS, and could have pitched in college, but U of A didn’t want him and Eibner playing both ways.
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
....dude, he looks like Allen Craig's brother.
or somebody familiar.
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I believe there's your shot of Matheny. soak it up.
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No no...you're watching LAST year's draft
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I thought Shelby Miller was thin
…no?
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
Er... I meant two years ago
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Wilson's still in play
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah, but would they be willing to pay him that much over slot in the mid 40's?
Selig would shit a brick if they did. Doubt he makes it past the first round anyway.
selig can suck it
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
if you are willing to pay him x amount, better to get him as low as possible, right
so you can grab somebody ahead of him? but yeah, i suppose selig would be displeased.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
so do you think the Cards will get a big break in price with Cox
and will be willing to put the money saved towards Wilson, if he’s still there? My guess is you’d still have to give Wilson at least $2.75 mil in the supplemental round to keep him from going to Stanford
I actually don't think we'll draft Wilson if he's there
Cox will be a tough sign as a sophomore, so I’m expecting a signability pick
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i doubt it
cox is a sophomore, he has lots of leverage. probably will cost more than an average 25 pick
blarg
yeah, for some reason I was thinking he was a senior
but since he’s a sophomore, then yeah, it will still cost to sign him.
i thought he was the typical junior
as a sophomore, that changes things. at least it’s not as bad as the nats with all the further times harper can enter the draft.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think so
looks like 2b.
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Per MLB
Fielding: Recently moved to second base, he looks better there than he did at third. He sees the field better from second and seems to have adjusted to turning the double play well.
I want the Walrus back...
like it.
arm is a plus at 2b
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Cox is going to be a fast moving type
low ceiling, high floor with decent defense and questionable power
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
D
his D isn’t bad. I’ve seen him play quit a bit down here in Ark and he plays well and moves well in the field. Hell of an arm
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
freshman year
had a .903 ops and hit 13 hrs. Set the Razorback record as a freshman. this year he had a 1.109 ops with 9 hrs.
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He tied the school season hits record tonight
in their regional final win. Career stats: .355/.437/.511 w/ 150 hits, 26 doubles, three triples, 22 HR, 87 RBI. He is sitting at .427 BA for the year with a super-regional against Arizona St. coming up.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 8, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Full scouting report
list him as a 3B/2B with a good arm. He was once a pitcher, so arm is definitely there.
I want the Walrus back...
not such a factor at second, though
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yet some sy
that he might not hit for enough power to be a factor at a corner infield position. But as a second basemen, the things change.
Skip’s two year contract expires, then Cox? Heh, it’s free to dream.
I want the Walrus back...
yeah, if he can play second, it's his best chance
descalso will be a rook next year, though
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I have been reading everywhere
that he played better at 2B than 3B when he was moved there late this past season. So, he can do it. Hey, if Skip did it…
I want the Walrus back...
i guess descalso might not work out
but cox could end up trade bait, a la our favorite walrus
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Anyone have any possibly salary figure for Cox
Can’t seem to find anything.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Cox is Prematurely Extending?
Isn’t there a pill for that? Moar push-ups?
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Bud, the witless banter needs to stop.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
kyle parker to rox
where’s CG with the inside info
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
20 homers... 20 td passes. so they say.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
High avg., so-so power, solid arm at 3B but not a ton of range
…David Freese?
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
If he can pull it off
there’s no guarantee he can handle 2b
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
...anybody can—
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It'd be sweet to have him turn out as a Ben Zobrist type.
That would rock.
nope. hometown kid. Jesse Biddle.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
for Phillies.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Bittle to Phils
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
err Biddle
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
He was ranked very, very highly by every publication
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This draft class is weak on hitters
any other year, he’s not nearly as highly rated.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Every class since 2005 has been labeled "weak on hitters"
Every class after the #1 or #2 rated pitcher is “weak on pitchers”
Not afraid to nitpick
better than Chris Sale to the White Sox?
I wouldn’t be mad if Nick Castellanos wasn’t still on the board.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
but
dgoold: Cox turned down an $800,000 bonus from LA #Dodgers, who took him with 20th-round pick out of high school. #stlcards 8 minutes ago via web
he has no leverage anymore, so he'll sign
lots of guys turn down offers out of high school – utley shunned the dodgers too
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
speaking of the dodgers
hawk and larue tonight?
why are we trying so hard to lose the first game against the dodgers after the nlds fiasco?
dodgers are throwing their worst "fill-in" starter
so this should be a free-for-all tonite. although monasterios might be needed down the line for them, as i hear that their opening day starter got into a little trouble at the ritz-carlton. no details, but there was a complaint lodged against him, presumably by a young lady.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
oh, and turns out he's a draft-eligible soph
thought he was a junior. so he has some leverage, but not really all that much.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
a guy drafted out of high school has leverage
because he most likely has a college scholarship, so you have to pay him more if you want him to forgo that. once he enters a 4-yr university (as opposed to juco, like harper), he has to stay a certain period before he can be eligible for the draft again. this is generally after his junior year, but there are some draft-eligible sophs. so most of these guys sign then, when they have at least a little leverage (they can return to school for senior year and then reenter draft, at which time, though, they have no leverage)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
when is our next pick?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
We're drafting at 25!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
But Nick Castellanos was on the board!
So was Austin Wilson, but I’m starting to think he’s not going to sign at all.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
if he has uggla power, that's not bad
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
So whom are targeting next?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions
With the 25th pick in the draft the Cardinals select ... Nick Stavinoha
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
lol, i thought of stavi when I heard big guy with a surprising lack of pop for his size
this just confirms it.
(not really hating on the cox pick already)
rick ankiel?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Lets get Bryan Harper in the second round.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
open it up......
- dgoold Cox turned down an $800,000 bonus from LA #Dodgers, who took him with 20th-round pick out of high school. #stlcards 9 minutes ago via web
- dgoold Cox is 2-for-3 tonight during Arkansas’ elimination game against Washington State. #stlcards 10 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Dodgers get Zach Lee
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
probably won't get him b/c qb'ing for SEC
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
probably why they picked him
have no money to spend
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Los Angelease
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Rankings,
on a scale from 20 to 80
GRADING OUT (Future):
Hitting: 50 (60)
Power: 40 (50/55)
Speed: 50 (50)
Defense: 40 (50)
Arm: 60 (60)
I want the Walrus back...
BJRains
Apparently the Cardinals pick, Zach Cox, left tonights game for Arkansas with a tweaked back. 1 minute ago via web
2 minutes after we picked him or what?
jeebus
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He's been suffering with that for the last couple weeks
seeing as how they won 7-2, I’m guessing they pulled him to protect it (note I wasn’t listening to the game and missed the local sports so…. purely a guess).
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 8, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Cam Bedrosian to LAA
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and Chevy Clarke
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
great pick
didn’t think we’d take him, but the kid is undervalued because he’s a smallish righty.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Wilson still hanging out there on the board....
Make it so Mo!
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
here is what he can do with a wood bat
Cox moved on to the prestigious Cape Cod Summer Baseball League where he played for the Cotuit Kettleers. All he did was bat .344 in the premier wood bat summer league, was named to the West All-Star team where he took most valuable player honors and was dubbed the No. 2 prospect in the league by Baseball America magazine.
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Cox moved on to the prestigious Cape Cod Summer Baseball League where he played for the Cotuit Kettleers. All he did was bat .344 in the premier wood bat summer league, was named to the West All-Star team where he took most valuable player honors and was dubbed the No. 2 prospect in the league by Baseball America
I’m not impressed. ;-)
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
well..
….he can handle the wood. It could be worse.
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Cox can handle wood
Awesome lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
everyone...
….needs a talent.
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but I read reports that he had absolutely no power in the Cape Cod League
The wood bat may drain what power he has shown in college.
i did hear that too
He would a be a plus over Skip.
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a cool commercial
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Chevy Clarke to LAA
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
I like Clarke
He seemed like a toolsy kid
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
don't tell him about flied out.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ha
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
They drafted Kirk Herbstreit?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
+
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I feel like Conan O’Brien. You guys nailed it.
"When I gave up a grand slam to Pete LaCock," Bob Gibson said later, "I knew it was time to quit."
by The Classical on Jun 7, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that picture of jack wilson
it looks like someone cut those eyes out individually and taped them both onto a blank face.
that picture
also makes me wonder how far down his chin his lower teeth are
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
by BVHeck on Jun 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
JACK WILSON
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Zack Cox's Swing
Just happened to have this in my library.
This is quite a nice swing.
My question is his eye and his ability to consistently put this swing on a major league caliber pitch.
Is it just me
Or is there a lot of moving parts in that swing?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I don't like his load
Too much sway (ala Ludwick).
However, his position at the Point Of Contact, in this swing at least, is good.
I think he's toned down some of the sway
Looking at the footage on some of the other scouting sites. Your footage is from 3 years ago — I would guess that he’s made a few adjustments since then just to hit college pitching.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
yeah
he’s reportedly shortened up.
The draft preview on the D-backs SBN site
said his swing might be too armsy and this might make him miss too much on the major league breaking pitches.
I want the Walrus back...
I saw some arm-y disconnected swings, but this isn't arm-y
This is perfect.
And in the neighborhood of Uggla.
Except for the Ludwickian sway in the load.
i am curious to see how that swings works against good off speed stuff
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure even if you get Harper out front he'll still be able to destroy a ball Holliday style
Not afraid to nitpick
For sure
But I mean 500 foot power without that long of a swing path is a good sign.
Not afraid to nitpick
Really?
I know we’ve had this one before, but I hadn’t seen anything longer than a Prince Fielder.
Not afraid to nitpick
you can shorten it though, right?
i think this is what chris young has done this year with the d’backs.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Decent view of an oppo double. And Side view of a few swings and a bomb. I don’t really see length being too much of a problem there, he’s bat isn’t any more “wrapped” than Manny. He’s not gonna be Pujols short, but I mean the 80 power plays…
Not afraid to nitpick
I agree with you
I think his problem is going to be swing path and not length.
His arms seem to get extended quickly on the path down to the ball, meaning he’s not going to be able to check his swing consistently against good breaking stuff. And he swings so damn hard that if he’s out in front he’s not going to be able to adjust much.
Thing is — he’s 17 fucking years old. If he’s able to make a couple minor adjustments (such as a better timing mechanism) he’s going to be a monster power hitter even with his 120+ K’s per year.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
there's a vid above
i think you posted it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I posted some links above that had tons of good info in them about Cox
He seemed like an overdraft to a lot of people in the Top 10 but good pick at 25
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
if we thought he was best talent available
then i’m all for it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
pretty much the way the Cardinals work
Take best available talent regardless of need
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what i would do
i just didn’t realize he was even close to the best talent available, compared to some of the high schoolers out there. i thought he was just more “developed”.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah, what i was thinking
another walrus-type situation. that’s valuable, just hope we use it wisely.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that is him...
from HS. He looks advanced even then. He keeps his head still for quite a while after contact is made. I think he will not k very much.
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by Cardinalnation on Jun 7, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like he put on a ton of weight...
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Justin O'Conner to rays
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'd have lol'd
If the Rays had taken Washington again.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Dammit.
Rays are constantly picking off guys I’m hoping will fall.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
SF retakes lead vs Cincy
Bottom 8th.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
To the ninth...still 6-5 Giants.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Gamethread, anyone?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
Sort of.
Some kind of intrasquad thing, I think.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've been waiting for it
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Custer in red at Chavez Ravine, sigh . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Cito Culver to Yanks
first round over
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not likely
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Not impossible
If we get Castellanos, Allie, or Cole, I’ll be stoked.
Still, 13 teams need to pass on him first
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Or wilson
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I want Bryan Harper in the second
I may be misspelling his first name though clol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
reds are down by 1
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Brendan Ryan seems to be giving Colby hitting tips
why did we let him socialize him, again???
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Currently on TV5Monde Etats-Unis
“Fort Boyard”. I’m not sure whether it’s a soap opera or a medieval game show. Or why I have this channel, but not ESPN2.
College TV is weird.
blarg
Keep ur fingers crossed
If either of Castellanos or Alise is still there at 46…and we take them….I’ll literally have a cow!
-- GOOCH
If you do birth a baby cow
I’ll expect you to post it to youtube. lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Still available
Castellanos, Allie, Ranaudo, Wilson, Brentz, LaMarre, Wojciechowski and Eibner
I want the Walrus back...
Its on mlb.com now
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
No they're doing the supplemental round
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
bagwell says it's kvasnicka
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the U of M guy
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's the guy i like
who took him?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
bagwell=stros
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh, they have former players announcing for each team?
good pick for them…finally, i guess.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I guess someone heard us,
Representatives announcing compensation rounds. Wohoo Matheny!
I want the Walrus back...
GameThread shaped thing if you want it.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
46, 50
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
roberto alomar says it's aaron sanchez
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If roberto had spit on someone
after announcing the pick , it would have been epic.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
lipka to the A T L
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Brentz gone
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Houston has a poor everything really.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
so let me get this straight
with our first pick, we didn’t get speed, power, or a LHP…the three things the org said were our biggest need
with castellanos and allie still on the board…color me unimpressed
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
When a top 10 talent falls to your lap at #25.....
You don’t let that go.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
top 10 talent...really?
maybe i am just missing it
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Read any expert's mock draft
KLaw said that Cox was the best pick of the first round
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Yes, Mock Drafts
Keith Law has him at No. 7 to the Mets.
Andy Seiler has him at No. 7 to the Mets.
Deep Leagues has him at No. 6 to the Diamondbacks.
Jonathan Mayo has him at No. 10 to the Athletics.
Perfect Game USA has him at No. 8 to the Astros.
Baseball America has him at No. 7 to the Mets.
Frankie Piliere has him at No. 7 to the Mets.
Kevin Goldstein has him at No. 7 to the Mets.
John Sickels has him at No. 8 to the Astros.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well i will admit those guys know more about scouting than me
but i am just not seeing it…but thats ok…if he signs he’s a cardinal now…and i will be all about him
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Yep
BPA>Need
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
but was he BPA
i know castellanos is in high school…but he projects to be a better player than cox
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
that would be sweet
but doubt he’d sign
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
overslot pay
Quick way to restock system
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but we are gonna have to cox overslot money…he has all kinds of leverage
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
i imagine he can meet us in the middle
I don’t believe it is always about the money. Dude is in Arkansas. You want to play for the Cardinals
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i think he is anxious to sign
wouldn’t give him more than shelby miller just out of principle, but i don’t know what shelby got. especially if some great talents fall to us now, like allie and a high school of’er – then we can really play hardball with cox.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
But born in Kentucky
don’t know where he grew up, played HS ball, etc.
I think the general feeling around Fayetteville is that he would probably sign with whomever if taken early. I’ll try to keep a watch out for any interviews with him on local news.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 8, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe i am biased because I am a Cardinal fan
But the Cardinals sure seem like a good organization to play for.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 8, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
All indications are that the Cards are a good org to play for, if you can make it to the show, you’ve almost always got a shot at post-season, etc. I think most any kid would be pleased to be drafted by the Cards. However, Cox, unlike many from Arkansas, may not be a life-long Cards fan and may not, or may, be prone to taking a bit less to sign with them.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 8, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
so does the washington hs of'er i think
oh well, i’d rather pick cox than brentz. still liked the catcher from minny though, and allie – if we end up with any of these high schoolers i’d be stoked.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think they were surprised that cox fell to them
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
not always a good thing, though
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well
any pick is not always a good thing. these drafts are pretty random
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 7, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
when a guy falls...i mean, everyone above you could be wrong about him
or they just like someone else better – who knows.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i hope he was the best on the board
i have my doubts though. he’s definitely an easier sign than some of them, i guess.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
bryce brentz to sauks
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I now hate brentz
BecauseI hate the Dead Sox
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
first pitch, btw. popup by lopez
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sorry danup came in
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/6/7/1506457/game-58-open-thread-cardinals-at
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
taylor lindsey to LAA
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Taylor Lindsey
May have a future in Trans gender porn. If the baseball thing falls through.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I just want to toss this out there, to temper everyone's expectations for the next two picks
Cox is still going to demand early-mid 1st round money. Even if someone falls to us, there’s a good chance they take someone who’ll sign for cheap.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
I refuse to spell the Jays and Red Sox picks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Rays too
Really frustrating to see the top teams taking the top talents.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
best draft so far
Houston seems worst for 3 picks
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Astros could have had...
Grandal, Zach Cox, and Castellanos (among others). Their position players suck at those positions.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 7, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Repeating myself...
McLane’d
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
You live in H-town too, right?
Thank goodness I’m not a Stros fan. I’d be livid.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 7, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
I think McLane does this just to hack off Richard Justice. And the fans are collateral damage.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
the catcher was a good pick
thought minny might take him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ranaudo really fell
guess it was the elbow problems. i wouldn’t have risked it – who took him?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ryan bolden to LAA
meanwhile WE NEED YADI.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
screw it
lets spend 6 million on our first two picks…GET WILSON!!!
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
roberto has to pronounce the asher kid. number three comp pick for them
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I thought I heard someone say Matheny
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Rocco! says Drew Vettleson
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
switch pitcher who can hit.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Rays and Red Sox are cleaning up.
I hope we do the same with our picks
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
taijuan walker to M's
there’s an intriguing girl there… should ask our insider. at least I think it’s a girl.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nick castellanos to texas
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wrong team. detroit.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Crap. Jerk Tigers
Was really getting hopeful for Castellanos there.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
should of known it
Tigers do like to go overslot. Especially for their first pick in the draft
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Pete O'Brien looks exactly like he should be representing the Texas Rangers.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
long haired punk Luke Jackson to Texas
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Let's go Cards, make us proud with some upside.
Wilson or Allie would be AWESOME.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
Seth Blair
I got nothing
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
here we go...
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Mike Matheny says Seth Blair.
MIKE MATHENY.
sorry.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wha?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Has to be better than
Peter Tago. lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
peter tago to rox
dante!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ok, when its our turn again?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
50?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
coolest name gone. Chance Ruffin to Detroit.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
his dad's name is Bruce
doesn’t get cooler than that.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
C'mon upside, let's do it.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
update: THUDWICK.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ludwick dinger
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Killwick
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
we have money!
give him money!
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
I dont have money lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I hope the delay is because we are checking how much $$ we have.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
We're out of pies
Thanks, Holliday.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
playing with his pocketknife
we got benes instead.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
by Cardinals645 on Jun 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
oh the suspense!
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Where's their pick?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Alan Benes says Tyrell Jenkins
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tyrell Jenkins
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
That leg kick is old school
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
a young Doc???
c’mon Harold. Hope he doesn’t like the coke!!!
Believe it if you need it
or leave it if you dare......
no vittleson, no allie, no wilson
not real impressed.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
This is what happens....
…when you get wrapped up in pre-draft mocks and scouting reports. You get wrapped up in specific potential prospects, and you really don’t realize how good this draft is. The Cardinals got a top 10 talent with their first pick, and picked a solid prospect and a high risk/high reward pitcher with their supplementals.
Although they’re both raw, have good mechanics, and are about the same age, Jenkins has a higher ceiling than Allie. Allie’s issue is that most scouts believe he won’t be a starter in the majors—he just can’t maintain his stuff through several innings and he also has very erratic control on all of his pitches. Jenkins has a bit lower velocity on his fastball (he has thrown in the mid-90s), but he has more movement and command. He’s also a three-sport athlete and scouts believe that if he concentrates on baseball and developing his three pitches, he’s a definate starter.
And to be honest, there’s a good chance Wilson won’t be picked this year. Before the draft, there was a ton of talk that Wilson wouldn’t sign with any team no matter the money because his parents wanted him to go to college. Teams stayed away for 50 picks, and that speaks volumes.
by Forsch31 on Jun 8, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the parents may have over-negotiated with the stanford talk
and he also might not be seen as such a can’t-miss to be worth the money. tbh, he wasn’t my first choice with where we were picking – vettleson was, and then allie with our first supp. i think you pick talent, which is slightly different than best player available – like the rays do, who took vettleson a few picks before our first supp. i suppose we were possibly going to take him there, and just got beat to the punch, which there’s nothing you can do about except be disappointed.
i really don’t see cox as a top ten talent, even in this draft. a lot of teams picking in front of us apparently didn’t either. of course teams have different needs, and not every player suits them, but one can’t rationalize that he fell for signability issues when there is only indication that the opposite is true. cox may have been one of the top 10 players in the draft as far as being “major-league ready” but i don’t see him anywhere near a top-10 talent. i have no problem with us going for the best player available in that slot, but sometimes i’d just like us to go for talent, as we did with shelby miller, and as we did with jenkins – i liked that pick, but i thought the arizona state pitcher was pretty conservative and uninspiring, especially after we went “safe” on our first pick..
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
looks like wilson isn't going to sign
given we got him with the 390th-odd pick. Decent insurance policy if Cox wants megabucks, i suppose.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
and re: Cox
I heard from several sources he was looking for “Alvarez money”, i.e. top 5 sorta slot. In which case it’s highly probable he DID fall for signability issues.
There’s also a big argument that we needed a guy who’s likely to be a major league starting position player, and who has a possible impact bat, in our system. We literally have none of those. I could see the argument for a real sky-high hitting potential guy like Brentz, or a guy with more projection and a lot of talent like Castellanos, but I really think Cox is a good selection because we simply NEED to produce average to above-average major league players every year to be able to afford the Holliday/Pujols contracts. From what I’ve heard, Cox is the closest in this draft as a lock to do that job and he’s got decent upside as well (unlike, say, Colon, who only grades out as average).
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
well, had we picked colon i'd be pissed
even in the supp (can’t believe he went that high, tbh). i didn’t see a lot of him, but checked in now and then on a game online and i thought kozma, had he gone to college, would have basically been colon. just my opinion, and the royals seem to disagree.
cox may be putting out there that he wants alvarez money, and why not, but alvarez was much more highly regarded, iirc. anyway, everyone seems to like the pick, although i’m unsure if it’s because they think we got a steal based on mock drafts or because they actually like his game, but i’m swayed a little by the consensus. i’m a little worried about his position, as some believe he will be a left-fielder, but even then he would have trade value – if it wasn’t a prospect swap, though, we’d still have to pay whoever we got for him. i don’t think he’ll be a problem to sign, even if they draw out negotiations as usual. if he can play second base, i could really like him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
FWIW
I think Colon was regarded better than Kozma ever was (not that I saw any of either actually playing!) but the knock on him seemed to be that he was merely average in most respects. IIRC a lot of folks thought Kozma was a bit handsy and would struggle to hit with wooden bats, which seems somewhat prescient. That said, yeah, I’d have been distinctly underwhelmed by Colon. I think he’s got a fair chance of being an average major league 2B like, say, Orlando Hudson, who keeps signing for about $5m each season. Not exactly what you’d call impact talent.
I think I like Cox based on the fact he’s got a bat. Toolsy guys are well and good but it sounds like Cox is going to hit for sure at major league level and has already done it against similar competition with wood bats in Cape Cod. His numbers in Cape Cod were really eye-opening (I think it was > .900 OPS), when you consider it’s probably equivalent to Quad Cities or even Palm Beach and he’s still, what, 20? He sounds like he’ll move quickly, and combines a pretty high floor (he’ll hit for sure, and presumably will stick at either 2B, 3B or RF so he’s not got the Wallace fielding stink to the same extent) with a decent ceiling.
I think if we wanted to shoot for the moon it seems like guys like Austin Wilson or Castellanos (or even Brentz, though I know a few were pretty down on his swing) have probably got more ceiling, but Cox seems like he’ll move faster than any of them (a good thing, as we need to save money in the majors SOON and we literally have NO position players coming through in the next two years who might be regulars, with the possible exception of Descalso) and has a decent chance of being an impact guy.
I am a little concerned that (for a top-10 guy in most mocks) there are some dissenting voices, but a lot of that seems to be based on the suggestion he has a handsy swing and may not pack on much power – I think his Cape Cod performance particularly dispells that rumour, and there’s also suggestions he intentionally hit for average and contact in his last college year, as there were knocks on his K-rate. The fact that the guy is so comfortable hitting at that level that he can immediately change his hitting approach and have instant success is very encouraging IMO.
i’m a little worried about his position, as some believe he will be a left-fielder, but even then he would have trade value
Yeah, that sounds like another knock on him, and tbh I too am a little concerned that a guy who was considered a mediocre 3B can move to 2B and suddenly become better. I guess a lot depends on his work ethic as a pro (I hear good things about his makeup, so that’s a plus, I guess), as he looks like he has the body type to do the job, at least for a few years, like, say, Dan Uggla. However, I still wouldn’t be TOO concerned if he hits and has to move to the OF – we don’t likely have an obvious RF in the system and apparently Cox has a great arm. If he moves to a corner I bet they’ll do an Aaron Luna with him and swap him into RF at AA. But obviously, yeah, he’s probably only going to be a star if he can stick at 2B or 3B.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 9, 2010 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont think so
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
Wrong Austin.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
BA says he can touch 95 and has been 92-93
They call it a great upside pick in the sandwich round for someone with multiple picks.
Not afraid to nitpick
Maybe, but he showed high 80s in the scouting video
And I think the idea of projectability is mostly bunk.
I disagree with that one
A 6’2 180 kid throwing 88-95 with the frame to be 6’2 215 is much more likely to pick up velocity than the 6’2 215 filled out kid throwing 88-95.
Not afraid to nitpick
so who's left on the board?
so I may inform the lazy game threaders who are watching this excruciating game (that is thankfully still low scoring)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Seth Blair
an electric arm that will settle at 90-93 mph but with troubles at having consistency with his secondary pitches.
I want the Walrus back...
Motte?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
no, no, the fastball will settle at 90-93
not the slider
by DanUpBaby on Jun 7, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tyrell Jenkins
has reached 95 on the gun and has ok command. He has a breaking pitch and a change up. Tall, lean, athletic, 3 sport star. If we can convince him to play baseball, we might get a high ceiling guy. I see this kid as having signability issues
I want the Walrus back...
Football scholarship to Baylor....I mean it's a football scholarship but it's also Baylor
Not afraid to nitpick
Who is about to be left behind by UT and A&M
…and Ann Richards can’t save them this time.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Just a 2 star QB on scout
Now Scout is pretty much shit, but he sounds like a project and possible redshirt type. And to your point, it’s Baylor. I’m sure it’s a nice thing to leverage, but I think he probably could be signed.
Ht: 6-4 Wt: 175
Position: QB
Year: Class of 2010
High School: Henderson HS
(Henderson, TX)
2010 Scout.com HS Football Rankings (full list):
Pos: QB Pos Rank: NR Pos Rating:
Biography:
Athletic dual-threat quarterback and three-sport star from Henderson (Texas) High School… Three-year starter at quarterback under head coach Dickey Meeks at Henderson… Threw for 1,095 yards on 87 of 159 passes and 16 touchdowns with four interceptions as a senior in 2009… Also rushed for 280 yards on 61 carries and scored six rushing TDs… Unanimous 2009 first-team All-District 14-4A quarterback and honorable mention All-East Texas as senior… Threw for 1,735 yards on 136 of 274 passes and 12 TDs as junior in 2008… Threw for 954 yards on 69 of 122 passes and four TDs as sophomore in 2007… Accomplished baseball pitcher projected as 2010 MLB draft prospect… Earned third-team 2008 THSBCA All-State honors as junior pitcher… Also played basketball, named 2008-09 District 14-4A Defensive MVP as junior.
by Merry CRasmus on Jun 7, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
that biography is so cool
wish that was me
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Baylor or a
million bucks?
doesn't sound like a pro quarterback
i’d guess he chooses baseball pretty readily.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
so okay
which pick went with DeRo and Kicksave?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so they magically transmuted into...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
DeRo cost Perez & Todd, got us Seth Blair
Pineiro cost us $21mil & 2 years of patience, got us Tyrell Jenkins
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
yeah, I'm not exactly happy with the last two picks there.
Blair appears to have some stuff but has control issues. I never like hearing when scouts project a guy to the pen so early. I want a high upside STARTER this early in the draft. I doubt we’ll be able to sign Jenkins, so I dislike this selection. He’s projectable, but I have a feeling his chance to play football for Baylor will make him too expensive and we’ll lose him.
I never put too much stock into being projected into relief if they've had success as a starter
These guys have 3 years to figure out a 3rd/4th pitch and you have next to no idea if they are going to do it. I know it’s the anomaly and that singularly doesn’t make scouts stupid, but Lincecum was thought by many scouts to be a reliever because he didn’t have a reliable 3rd pitch at all nor command of his curve.
Not afraid to nitpick
size was a big issue with lincecum
as it is with all righties. the smaller ones are always projected to the pen. how big is blair?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Nah I heard it based on stuff not on innings
His change/slider weren’t very good coming out of the draft and his command wasn’t that great either.
Not afraid to nitpick
yeck
so he’s small and w/o good stuff. btw, i don’t like that “small” gets a righty projected as a reliever, just noting that’s how it is. i really liked bedrosian in this draft, but his stature gets him the same designation – i really wish we had him instead of this arizona state guy, but i guess he was probably already off the board.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
John Sickels of Minorleagueball has Jenkins
Underrated 2010 Draft Prospects
Nice tidbit about Blair in the comments of
Draft Question: Late First Round Pitchers
I have seen him pitch at least 20 times in person over the past 3 years (season ticket holder for ASU) and I can certainly chip in on him:
From a "stuff" standpoint he’s better than Mike Leake. Now before you all jump on me, I’m saying simply by what he puts on the ball. He is obviously no where near as polished, have the intangibles, or is not near the pitcher Leake was for us. That said, Blair has a better fastball with more movement (leake sits at 88-89 while Blair 92-93) and Blair’s slider is more an out pitch than anything Leake throws. Leake’s strength was being a master at his craft, adding and subtracting from his pitches, and throwing 4 pitches for strikes. Blair comes with a nasty boring fastball will break some bats at the next level, a power slider, and a change that shows some promise but isn’t used that often. Blair’s control can be erratic, he’s helped out a lot by kids with limited plate discipline. When Blair gets in trouble he just rears back and unleashes a 97mph fastball and college kids for the most part chase it no just because of the sheer velocity and movement, no matter where it is (or isn’t) in the zone. Big league hitters will wait Blair out and feast on his mistakes.
IMO, Blair could excell as a closer. His fastball would bump a few notches and he could scrap his change and just worry about mastering the slider. I could see him a closer with a 97mph 2 seemer and a mid-high 80s slider
97 mph 2 seamer?
is that even possible?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
pretty sick
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
have you heard of mitchell boggs
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Seth Blair ground out to fly out ratio: 111-61
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 7, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
awh yeah
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
So he's a college guy
What year? ASU = Ariz. St?
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 8, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like if Blair gets a little more command
and masters his change up he may be a #3 starter type guy. And if not, well power bullpen arms work as well.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
I'd like to think that if a guy who can hit 98 figures out a 3rd pitch and develops command would be a lot better than a #3
Not afraid to nitpick
well, behind wainwright and shelby...
/crosses fingers
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
so, just to be clear,
we floated the idea we wanted speed, power, and LHP…and we took none of those with our first three picks…sounds to me like we were trying to throw other people off our game
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
hellz yeah
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions
z
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 7, 2010 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I take offense to that good sir...
friend me on facebook y'all
by BuzzKillington on Jun 8, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Then my next single-character post could get me banned.
I’d better cool it.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 8, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
For anyone wondering who to watch for tomorrow
Kevin Goldstein at BP has this
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
gotta say
after reading this, it looks like the astros won’t be competing any time soon. they did a terrible job by drafting deshields and foltynewicz so early
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Or they did a brilliant job
Its just to early to tell.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
If DeShields would have been there in the second round
Then they did a poor job by drafting him there, whether he pans out or not.
Would he have been though?
Since I haven’t seen any teams draft board I have no idea? And I’m not trying to be difficult, I’m just saying that it’s really honestly to soon to tell how any team did. But it’s a lot of fun to try.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
like the cub pick
it sounds like a big reach, but if they wanted him above anyone else and it was going to be their only chance to pick him, then they had to pull the trigger.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
nice draft, eh?
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions
roto says cox is rough at third, could be moved to outfield
on a cheerier note, this from truebluela:
A Couple of Cardinal Greats Through Age 30
Player G PA 2B 3B HR R RBI BA/OBP/SLG OPS OPS+
Musial 1370 6070 373 127 206 1044 923 .347/.431/.584 1.015 172
Pujols 1455 6336 400 14 380 1105 1156 .333/.427/.626 1.053 172
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
or second base
wow, he really is the mang. or maybe no nickname can really describe him
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
we can think second base
i’m hopeful too, but i can’t see how if he doesn’t have the athleticism and quickness to play third how he could possibly be suitable at a tougher defensive position.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
a lot of stuff i've seen suggests 2b and 3b are basically interchangeable in terms of difficulty
although also from what I’ve heard, he doesn’t have a lot of footspeed. I’d have said 3b is more reactions and agility, 2b is more footspeed and first step, so his skillset seems more suited to 3rd (especially as he has a strong arm). That said, scouting reports liked him more at 2nd. We’ll see how it shakes down in the wash.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
personally I'd rather play 2nd than 3rd
I’ve always thought that third is harder
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
better athleticism is required at second
better reflexes and arm are required at third. cox is said to not have athleticism or range for third, which would mean no way he can play second. now maybe he’s just terribly out of shape or something and they can fix that, but otherwise i cannot envision him transitioning to second, which would probably leave left field as the only viable option.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
why not right?
he apparently has a great arm and could hit 90mph on the mound.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 9, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions
true
i just regard right field as more than just an arm. there’s no keeping a guy going first to third if you can’t get to the ball in a manner that would dissuade him, or get him out, and i don’t know about cox either way. i just know that if given luddy’s arm, or even ank’s, holliday would not be a right fielder. i just think, taking arm out of it, left field is an easier position to play, perhaps due to configuration of parks, idk, but to me it right requires not only a better arm, but better outfield acumen and athleticism.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think Holliday tracks and catches flyballs about as well as Ludwick or Ankiel to be honest
they might both shade him on athleticism (Ank by a long way) but Holliday is actually faster across the ground IMO, and reads the ball pretty well (something Ank was very poor at).
Overall I think Ludwick is the best RF of the three as he combines solid athleticism with good instincts and a good arm, but I don’t see Holliday being much worse and he might actually get to the ball better. I think he’d be fine in RF with Ludwick’s arm. Please note this is all just my opinion.
FWIW the advanced fielding stats conflate LF and RF as equally valuable and therefore difficult to play. Maybe this is because LF sees slightly more balls hit in that area, I don’t know.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 9, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
So
I just got back from the piss pounding in the city of angels and wanted to make some sort of who loves cox joke, but it seems that it has already been covered. :(
You people are just to clever. haha.
We have Cox covered
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 8, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hi folks
just dropping in to say that I’m really pretty happy with this draft. Yet again we seem to have got a talent who should’ve gone 10 spots or so ahead of us in the 1st round and taken the best player left on the board.
That said, the three guys I wanted (Brentz, Cole and Wilson) all seemed to be on the board when we picked, and Cole and Wilson were both on the board (seemingly) when the supplementals went down. What’s with that? Signability issues?
FWIW I think the RedSox cleared up too – Vitek in the first, Brentz and Ranaudo with supplementals. All three of those guys could’ve been top 15-20 picks and they got them with picks 20, 36 and 39.
Also – whither left-handed pitching? Jesse Biddle (who I think would’ve been a great pick too) was available when we made out first round pick. I guess Luhnow just couldn’t NOT pick Cox at that point. A lot of the mocks I saw had him going in the 10th pick or so.
Gausman and Cole, two pitchers I really like, are still there and hopefully we can get one of them in the 2nd round. I’m actually surprised both are still on the board after 50 picks, Cole especially. I guess we’d have to pay way over slot to get him now, unless there’s some injury I’m not aware of.
Still bitching to contact.
Also
no Stetson Allie. So, ummmm, why are a bunch of pretty clear first round guys still on the board after 50 picks?
And if we can get Cole, Allie, or Gausman in the 2nd and have to pay 1st round money, do we do that? I’m guessing, hopefully, YES.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
i read a couple places that allie was just way too expensive
i like the rays draft. they took vettleson, who i was hoping for, a couple picks before our first supp.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah from what I hear
Allie will be top 10 next year. I guess no-one takes him in the 2nd round because they’ll have to pay WAY over slot, probably top-10 money. I’d still like to do that, but realistically the budget probably doesn’t stretch with Cox and possibly Tyrell Jenkins being slight over-slot signs.
I’m also guessing Wilson is not getting drafted this year, for signability reasons. I’d have really loved to have made a reach for Wilson or Cole in the supplementals.
Of the guys left, if we’re looking at lefty pitching still (unless that was just BS), I like Solis. I think he’s a good choice in the 2nd round and I bet he won’t cost much if anything over slot. If we’re prepared to take a signability risk and Cole’s still, on the board, I really, really love him as a 2nd round pick. Eibner’s probably another slight signability risk that would make a good high-upside shot.
Any idea what pick we have in round 2?
I’m thinking if we go signable and lower-upside polished player, Sammy Solis (college LHP) or maybe Jedd Gyorko (college 2B/SS who I thought might go to us in the supplementals) would be good if they’re still on the board.
Higher upside/signability risk, I’d love to get AJ Cole (HS RHP) or Kevin Gaumsan (HS RHP), of which Cole will be the harder sign, or perhaps Brett Eibner (college OF/RHP), who’ll be a tricky sign and who has issues with his two-way projection (wants to hit and many think he’s better pitching), or Jesse Hahn (college RHP), who got injured but was projected as a top 10-20 guy and may now need TJ surgery.
I’m hoping for Cole, but realistically he probably wants too much money, so any of these guys would be good. Gausman is exciting, and Gyorko seems to fit our needs pretty well. Hopefully at least one of these guys is on the board when we pick.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 8, 2010 6:45 AM EDT up reply actions
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