Game 55 Open Thread: Brewers at Cardinals
by DanUpBaby on Jun 4, 2010 7:57 PM EDT
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PrintMilwaukee Brewers at St. Louis Cardinals, Jun 4, 2010 8:15 PM EDT
Last year's Cy fight
succumbed to a Lincecum fever;
at least now they know that he's not a reliever.
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Beat the Untuckers!!!!!
Did they quit doing that this year?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i am on the zephyr
Headed to kewanee. Going to try to follow first part of game on here then switch over to radio in the car
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
amtrak?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yes. Going to see the folks in western il
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, I'd like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail.
Yes, I’d like to send this letter to the Prussian consulate in Siam by aeromail. Am I too late for the 4:30 autogyro?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jun 4, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whoa, copy-paste fail. I hang my head in shame.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I looked at taking the train from here to STL this year.
I’ve always wanted to do a cross country train trip. The cost made it impossible. I was shocked at the price of tickets, something like $950 per.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I've only taken the springfield to chicago/milwaukee and back
I’m looking forward to some high speed rail between st. louis and chicago running right through my hometown, if the NIMBYs let it.
Only 22 to take train from chicago to kewannee. Less than it used to be I think
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
love this
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
Yeah I can’t believe that guy has 14 hr
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
wow, he started so slow and they were trying to deal him
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Edmonds for hall of fame!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I proselytize about it whenever I get the chance.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
nicely done danup
lineups?
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
I'm going to risk answering this over the objection of your signature
it’s apparently been an sbnation widget for a while; I’ve only recently started using it after the jump.
...
…
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
by mattyfrommo on Jun 4, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just when danup does game threads I think
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well its Jammin Jamie....
he ain’t no Limey
If I get up to bat
he’ll toss it right by me
wicky a wicky wicky wicky
a wicky wicky wicky…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I'm thrashing the untuckers!!!
http://www.brewcrewball.com/2010/6/4/1501457/series-preview-st-louis-cardinals#39023375
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
That was some seriously unnecessary bullshit.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the first of June and they're out of it...
Suppan is on the payroll, Fielder soon won’t be, their best player is a total douche…. They need something to get excited about. Plus they called the mang a dick.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
I don't know why you bothered to argue with them as long as you did.lol
They weren’t going to listen. It was like a little kid sitting in the floor saying he’s going to hold his breath if you don’t agree with him.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know,
I can kind of see their point. What Albert does would piss us off if Prince Fielder did it; it might also piss Albert off if he saw Prince Fielder do it. Looking at home runs and tossing the bat like he does is inconsistent with whining on the record about the untuck. I love the guy, but it is.
i pretty much agree with that
they are slightly different in that the bat toss is more a heat of the moment thing and the untucking a spirit of the moment thing, perhaps, but essentially we’re talking about behavior that doesn’t bother one’s own fans but bothers all opposing fans – at least the bat toss does from reading other sites; not sure if all other fans feel quite like us about the untucking.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Jealousy is a difficult emotion for other fans to express.
But that’s what it is.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
next time, leave it to adam to thrash milwaukee.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
wow
i love how they bash Pujols because he said MVP needs to go to a person on a playoff team and then wins it in 2008 and not doing so
as if he had a say in his second MVP award….. (do they expect him to say…" You know what… I can’t accept this… I didn’t make the playoffs… here take it"
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
when you are in somebody else's house
you don’t make the rules. just saying, there’s a way to do things and a way to not. the d’backs guys were great that hung here when we played, with the eels and all, and we had a good time over there too. i know when we played frisco, it may have been voxx, i forget, but he was welcomed there and had fun. one of their guys was here, and it was all cool. but i’m not sure this was at all the case here, but i’m not going to bother to check.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeh even if their overall point is valid
their evidence is crap…. ok homers, i’ll give you that… and i guess on that NLCS game where Albert was fucking pissed about getting shutout….
but to say he’s a hypocrite because he won a MVP that he said he didn’t deserve (in a somewhat different way) is just complete bullshit
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
not concerned about...
the ball in the dirt?
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Eh
I’m not going to sell on his plate discipline because of one AB but I will buy on power based on that swing plane and his body frame.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
What's the guy supposed to do...
with a pitching staff that bad?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Prince sure likes his ruffiage
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I know...
I just haven’t seen him throw that hard as a starter in a long, long time. Generally he sits 91-92 on the fastball.
by mattisnotfrench on Jun 4, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Good work Waino
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
1 chicken McNugget isn't even close to sounding delicious, much less 50
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
...mull it over
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
everything's good when mulling
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
does anyone know of any websites that have hitter splits?
i want to know what floppy’s hitting from the right
Said
Ryan Braun cost (defensively) almost the same amount of runs as he produced
I want the Walrus back...
right, I heard that
just no reference to any advanced metrics…
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
He still gives back half his value through defense...
it’s pretty bad.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I saw the Goodyear Blimp flying around.
I guess they just change the skin and make it DirecTV?
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 4, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, Kottaras?
The guy who the Red Sox used to catch the Knuckler? he could barely stay over the medoza line playing once every 5th day…. hehehehe
some mock drafts have the sox taking that catcher out of miami
didn’t know they’d already drafted him once before.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I am curious about that poll.
Who would you pick as your favorite 2006 former player?
I want the Walrus back...
Jimmy Edmonds, of course
still wish he was in cardinal red… not the same without him in center
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
waino looks good tonight
let’s hope the offense gets going. hoping the 1st inning wasn’t an indication
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
is the first inning ever much of an indication, zoomzoom?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Freese looks at two meatballs down the middle
and swings at the pitch out of the zone.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
perfect game
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
Bush is a soft tossing lefty?
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
Or you talking bout Jaime?
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
he's not going
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
parra taking bush's spot
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Oh ok. Was not aware of this.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
another game against a lefty, more struggles
c’mon cards… could you guys hit a lefty, just even one time?
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
It truly is amazing how this team is incapable of hitting a lefty
And how it’s been this way for what, 20 years at least? 30? My dad tells me stories about how they couldn’t hit lefties back in the 70s.
nor have we had much luck with lefties pitching for us
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
... jaime garcia.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
ok, that's one
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
especially since
all but 3 or 4 of our players are righty hitters.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
he's got his work cut out for him
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's only 22!
the way most players come up with this club, he’s got a good 4 more years to develop
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
2 more in AA
2 more in AAA
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Stupid miles
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 8:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Um wow ump, that was a strike
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
cincy down 2-1
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and Colby ruins that.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
i didn't think he'd do squat
but gotta admit the last month he’s carrying them, with heyward
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
still glad we didn't resign him
b/c if we did, he’d probably still be struggling.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
well, we couldn't resign him
we have that apu dude. that was a no-brainer, i think.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he looked ok at the plate and in field at times
but long term he would likely have to be at fiorst
too bad we didn’t get anything for him
arby would not have been a bad call
sign and trade
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
don't he and al always do that?
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
moose sighting!
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
bradford is pete sampras on roids
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i think they have very similar build and athleticism
and vaguely similar faces, and then the hair
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
stache sighting!
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Like walking in on your grandparents having sex.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 4, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
that's awkward... and creepy.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Misunderstanding
I knocked first & I thought Grandma yelled, “Come in”!
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
i keep saying to myself "never imagine anything on VEB, never imagine anything on VEB"
hold on a minute
BARFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!
damnit
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
BOOOOOOOOOOG!
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
nice sacrifice waino!
almost beat it out.
now back to the top of the order… redeem thyselves!
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
waino was busting it down the line
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hey, a run!
atta boy colby!
haha mcgeheeheehee
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
VEB: where you should never picture something that's been said.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
i love his stride
he took about 5 home – that ground closed fast.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Dan: So have you...
Sam: No.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on Jun 4, 2010 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
somebody's gonna get buzzed on the brewers now
a.d.a.m. won’t put up with that.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Bases are loaded for Bert
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
studwick!
cautious move by boog… didn’t want to challenge edmonds’ arm there.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
right where we want them
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I hope that Colby is taking notes on how to play CF.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions
he doesn't play nearly that shallow, though
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
True but how many times have we seen him get to a ball and not be ready to throw.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions
gehrig 23
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
not a salami, but a sac fly will do
the moar runz, the better.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
c'mon freeeese
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
bradford hates long innings i bet
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i like the cards having patience
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Dan: Are you married? Whats the deal?
Sam: I am single
Me: mute
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
these are the worst questions ever
i know morneau better than morneau knows morneau, and morneau knows it.
he knows all the answers already
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yep
not taking any chances on his intro to the public – they know everyone in st lou watching the game
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Wish they would've done better.
They made our new QB look like a humorless dolt. Of course, as long as he’s football smart, I don’t care.
Regression, bitches.
um...
3-0, and you K? i am disappointed in you, mr. freese.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Score?
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 9:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
subject line?
/kidding
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Dan says Bradford is not flamboyant.
Apparently he wanted to hear stories about how Sam made it rain down in Sauget and pooped in an arch elevator.
Waino says "Take a seat, son."
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 9:11 PM EDT reply actions
STFU AL
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
wasn't paying attention
how was the ovation in jimmy’s first PA?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
al said, "nice ovation for jimmy"
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
KKKKK
waino rocks.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
ha-ha hart looked silly
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's working his way up to
27 consecutive Ks. just to see if anyone notices
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Wow, Brew Crew Ball just hates us even more
I had no idea we were the subject of such poisonous hate from all directions in our division.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
the gif
seems more appropriate here.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
waino looks awesome
cards up 2-0
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
colby, hit a dinger please
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
BOOOOOOOOG!
it’s the stache. trust me.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Nice, Boog!
the best thing that could happen to Boog is having lopex off the DL
I want the Walrus back...
boog
gonna get some pt now
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
rather see lopex
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Mendoza
line receding for Brendan. Let it continue this way!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 4, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think so.
There was an article on it a few weeks back.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 4, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
he'll win ROY
but mvp is gonna be tough – top 10 maybe.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if they let him pitch an inning
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I was not being serious.
/actually, heyward is the king of kings, our lord in heaven, the sacred christ.
blarg
Fernando was ROY, CY, SS, and 5th in MVP...
then he won a GG later.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Yes, Al...
He got his GDP.
He is so good, he’s a sovereign state.
by LukeMP1186 on Jun 4, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, Wolf already at 75 pitches (74?) through 4
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
could see suppan tonite
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
glad we didn't sign him
looking back, that was a good choice.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
We don't need hindsight to validate that decision.
He wanted WAY too much money.
Regression, bitches.
Are they trying to show a baseball game
or direct an arthouse film?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
They do that in basketball too.
Incredibly annoying.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Do they read this blog as a testing ground to see how many of us they can mess with?
or as an instant test group for feedback?
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Well, Ben Sheets was not signed.
So I doubt they read us :).
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
That plus their new interpretation of Cardinals red has me annoyed this season.
Regression, bitches.
67 pitches through 5 for Wainwright.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
dan&al are in their usual form
and so are we, just wanting them to shut up.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
The offense is so much better with Felipe healthy
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
about that....
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
We are the best fans out there...
I am sure BCB or RR go trolling whenever a Cardinal player makes a nice catch.
I want the Walrus back...
I don't know about the rest of you people
Yes, I am the best fan in baseball, and I suppose SBNation as well
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
alcides f. escobar
nice catch though
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
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Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
your turn brendan!
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
Congrats Al.
You’ve effectively explained that obvious simile to death.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I just sat here with my mouth agape. I can't believe he was saying all of that.
I mean, even for Al!
Regression, bitches.
Ice cream cone.
Even though I’ve never said that. It’s a snow cone.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 4, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I had to rewind it
I must have finally reached a point where I zone AL out, cuz I didn’t catch that the first time
and yeah, it’s a f’in sno-cone!
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
not a simile
just the phrase, ice cream cone.
I also call it a snow cone.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
"He catches it in the webbing and it looks like a ice cream cone."
I think that’s phrased as a simile, yes?
Think; It's not illegal yet.
you aren't joker24 as you don't have a Mizzou avatar
I reject your nitpicking.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Al: Knock Knock
3-year-old: Who’s there?
Al: Interrupting Cow
3-year-old: Interrupting Co…
Al: Mooo! (pause) Do you see what I did there? See a cow makes a ‘moo’ sound. So when I moo-ed to you it was like a cow. And if the cow was going to interrupt you, it would moo when you were still talking. That’s why it’s an Interrupting cow.
3-year-old: (shakes head and walks away)
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jun 4, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
you know it's bad when Az is making a kid out to be the good guy
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
whoa, the first time i read this, i automatically assumed that MooCow wrote it
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
haha
nicely done, azru
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Texas puts up 7 in one inning to go up 9-4 after being down 4-0 to the Rays.
bases-clearing double by Vlad, but then he was out stretching.
blarg
vlad's been on fire lately
much like glaus for the braves
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Boog's stache is back!
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vlad going for 3?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
in bp
hit hit a ball off the part of the structure of the batting cage
ricocheted off and hit him in the eye
he wasn’t supposed to play today
big vlad fan
glad he’s having a year. too bad he had those years on turf – didn’t do much for his or dawson’s knees, or scotty fwiw.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I can see the outfielders...
but Rolen was always in the dirt.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
spent a lot of time on the turf, still
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
once again...
alcides f. escobar.
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Boog's stache is back!
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Go away Escobar, shoo!
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
jesu. alcides escobar is quite good.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
Thou shalt not hit to right
is quickly earning commandment status…ok, so that wasn’t the toughest play in the world, but its kinda true nonetheless
a.d.a.m.
is continuing his domination.
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all ED commercials
are strange. everyday moments somehow relate to cialis? i don’t get it.
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Boog's stache is back!
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shutup!
as you would say. I have no idea what this thread is about, just being intrusive. I am surprised that Mark M, who is at least in his 40s, is still propagating, and triplets to boot. I am lazy, otherwise I should search to see if they have previous progeny. It was funny during today’s game, Mike, amongst many other hilarious things, suggested that the McGwires might need more nannys. How the hell does Mike know about nanny’s? Anyhow, all the best to the triplets. By the way, did you hear when Mike started talking about army guys in his platoon who were triplets. To me, it was so funny. What a raconteur! ON-ON
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 5, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
mark has at least a son with a previous wife
this wife is pretty young and poster material.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I mean, I know! And throwing a football through a tire swing?
that’s nothing like when I have sex, besides rope being involved
/ok maybe too far
...
“painting the bathroom makes me want to get it on!”
/painting the bathroom? really?
/bad example
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Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
freeeeeeese!
the cards are unusually showing that a lefty is vulnerable to being hit
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COLBY JACK!
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COLBY SMASH
OFF A LEFTY!
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
relax.
he was just being a braintwin without knowing it.
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@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
lol but mine had a SMASH. :-(
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
my love for colby grows
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Colby and new contacts
But I love him soooo much!
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jun 4, 2010 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I really love that one but I have a hard time picking a favorite.
I really enjoy these as well: Nerd Sniping, Exploits of A Mom, Success
I had this one outside my cubicle at work for a while but took it down because I had to keep explaining it. I also had to keep explaining why I was laughing every time I went into my cube.
And I’m sure there are others I’m forgetting. About once every 3 months, I’ll start at the beginning and just start clicking through them for hours. There’s more wit in one frame than in my entire being.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
did you read/participate in the colors survey?
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 4, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Some
Although I quickly bored of it. It wasn’t entirely clear to me what kind of answers he was going for. I did not try to screw with his tables with my inputs though I greatly respect those who did.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
ice wake up to a Colby Jack . . .
Shannon: Rasmus raising his leg again. Good boy, Colby. Good boy. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
That's not creepy in the slightest.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
no, not at all.
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Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
He still hasn't figured out...
how to go the other way against lefties while behind in the count late in a close game against a division rival that is underperforming but could pick it up if they get pitching…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
by guayzimi on Jun 4, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
ha
knew the clobby was getting one tonite
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It's pretty warm day here in Wisconsin...
better to drink on the porch than watch/listen/post inside.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
that's what...
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Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
wow...brewers fans kinda suck
only 120 comments so far
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
yadi2's got the night off
hes at like 200 comments above replacement
by YesWeOquendo on Jun 4, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I was pulled for the lefty
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And most of them were yelling at guayzimi :D.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I stayed away from the game thread...
and all I asked was why they thought Pujols was a dick… I’m not normally into trolling…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
they're brewers fans.
of course they’re going to act like douches.
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Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Having an argument with a friend.
He says Vlad Guererro is not a Hall of Famer if he retired today, because he was a ‘power hitter, who didn’t hit 500 homers’.
I called him an idiot, of course, but the fact that he was an incredible power/speed player who had about 10 straight years in the 1.000 OPS range apparently means nothing to the common fan.
Maybe I’m off base here? Is this the common thought regarding Vlad? Good player, but not HoF worthy? I didn’t really thing there was any question about him making it.
I think Vlad's a HOF'er
If Dawson makes it, Vlad just has to
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
yeah, vlad better than dawson
not gonna be first-ballot, though, haze
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'd bet he's not no matter
unless he goes crazy for 3 or 4 years in texas, then he could be
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Maybe not if he retires today.
But he’s in line with his career averages during his age 35 season. DH’ing in Texas, he could very well be quite productive for a few more years yet, approaching that magical 500 mark, and pushing his hit total closer to 3000. Considering the speed element, and the fact that he had an amazing arm (though I doubt this would be taken into consideration at all), and he could be a first ballot guy.
But yeah, probably depends who he retires with, and who gets in during next few years.
No chance first ballot...
he’s borderline at best. Yes he was a good hitter, but he was a corner outfielder. You have to absolutely rake to get in as a corner outfielder.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
vlad's borderline to me
but i think he’ll be in.
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Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
He might have some issues do to his finishing as a DH but he is a lifetime 322
.322 hitter with an MVP if he had played in Bos/NY I would say first ballot as it is I would think he gets it but not right away
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
I agree with your statement.
But to add, periods and commas are your friends
I want the Walrus back...
I'm the type that would want to look at numbers
but my off the cuff, non-verified opinion is that he’s not. Career longevity, position and defense concern me with him. But I’d have to look in his case.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Career longevity...
I dunno. He had a very, very good sustained stretch. He’s never had otherworldly seasons, although posting an OPS of 1.000+ with ~40 steals is pretty amazing, but he’s had what, around 10-11 straight years of excellence, before a couple injury-plagued ones with the Angels? Now he appears to be back on track this season.
There aren’t many guys who were as good as he’s been for as long as he was. There are guys with better counting stats….but stretching your career on 5-6 years as a middling player will do that to some guys.
like vlad - he'll be able to stretch it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he ages.
I thought he was about done, but this year, even factoring in SSS, has been impressive.
everyone loves to hit in texas
though he might actually be hitting better on the road – someone was. but in general, i never trust those numbers there.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, he has a pretty favorable Home split.
But only 88 at bats away from Arlington isn’t much to read into, I guess.
so many great hitters from his era were 'roiders and won't get in
that he will as a power hitter without 500 homers
Waino is just f'in dealing.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
so what'd I miss
my braintwin is here, so i’m well-represented
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...
waino mowing the brewers down, raz hit a homer off a lefty, cards up 4-0
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
That is probably the most mind-blowing comment I've seen in a long time.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
knuckle-bump
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
never thought i'd say this
but… let’s go nats.
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@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
haha braun.
atta boy matty!
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Boog's stache is back!
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Douchefail
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
you, sir, have earned a rec
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@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Thanks, it was too obvious not to.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Not that I'm laughing at it
But damn that’s funny.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ha braun is the suck
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
There is a decent crowd in Washington tonight...
This must have been the game that they thought might be Strasburg’s debut. I remember hearing that a bunch of Nationals “fans” were upset when they found out that it wasn’t.
june 8th
the few nationals “faithful” should’ve known that
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Yes, we all know the date now...
But there was speculation that it would be tonight, and they sold a bunch of tickets. Then the fans that had already bought tickets got upset when they learned it wouldn’t be tonight.
There is something I will not miss
If he is what they say he is, I want to be able to say: “I saw his first pitch ever”
I want the Walrus back...
so in the last three days
how many World Series 06 championship players have we seen play at Busch?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
am i having deja vu
or did you ask that in another thread
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
I did
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I didn't think they'd actually let Soup out, for some reason.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
let's see...
jimmy ed
soup
narvy?
rolen
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Boog's stache is back!
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[rechecks question]
we is.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ludwick on 1st
Holliday hits a single that Braun misplays into a double, Ludwick scores
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
hello soup.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
kind of thumb-ish or index finger
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sure did
hope he’ll be ok
/nomilesplease
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@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
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yadi?
last at bat he rolled out to third, didn’t he?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
No, that was his 2nd AB.
His 3rd AB he smoked one to the RF gap that Hart ran down.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 4, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe I'm remembering wrong
that wasn’t hard hit down the line?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
he lined out to third the first time
the second time it was a roller
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
so does dan
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@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Yadi hits a fly ball off Suppan, caught by Edmonds.
huh.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
My friend has a great dog named Edmonds
named after Jimmy Ballgame. I hate seeing him playing for the Douches. (Edmonds the player, not the dog)
by RollBirdsRoll on Jun 4, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
can't blame him
he’s trying to add some numbers, and brewers offered him more playing time
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i don't like it either
much like when he played for the cubs, but he got more playing time out of it.
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@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
there are worse scenarios
where the same thing could happen
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
the apocalypse ends with the aliens coercing a pick-up game?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
When did DirecTV finally add WGN HD?
I just noticed it in the last 2 weeks or so. Ot’s even more fun to see the Cubs lose in HD.
no one wilolo ever beat his championship record
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
only
if you are a d-1 bb coach
then i say forget ti
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
oh now you're saying I can't be a d-1 bb coach
well listen bub, I might not like basketball but I can yell pretty loud and that should be enough to motivate those kids….
dan and al
always so accurate
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
RIP.
A coaching legend, and by most accounts a hell of a guy. I don’t much like UCLA, but lots of respect for John Wooden.
Yeah, as a USC student, I have absolutely no bad feelings towards John Wooden
Great coach
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
oh wow.
RIP. awesome coach, a basketball legend.
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Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Al: Fredbird scaring those little kids....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
freeeeese!
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@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
gold hand.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That hit Wainwright's foot?
Hope he didn’t hurt himself
NICE FREEZY!!!
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Of course it did, Mr. Joyce.
/didn’t see the play. Being a dick.
Frame-by-frame confirms he was out by a tiny, tiny margin.
His heel was barely above the bag when the ball was in Albert’s glove.
Barely.
was albert on the bag?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
we'll take it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that is 15 in a row for waino
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Does Adam finish it off?
He’s at what, right around a hundred pitches?
yeah, why not
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i think 95
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
85 to start the 8th
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 4, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if there are many ultimate players here
But here’s a high def version of the championship game between Carleton and Florida.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
ULTIMATE!
Our school has an intramural team…finished second this year. I love it.
by jackhammerslam on Jun 4, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
well it's been fun. I shall likely attend tomorrow's game
so have fun recording the esoterica in my absence.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ben or Jerry?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 4, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stay classy BCB
If it’s any consolation, it sounded like Wainright took that off the ankle
“The Milwaukee Brewers’ line score is starting to resemble an international phone number” – Pittsburgh Pirates Radio during 20-0 shutout – 4-22-10C
by MadtownTim on Jun 4, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
like i said before
them brewers fans are douches.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Heheh...they'll wake up tomorrow and still be Cubbies. It's it's own punishment.
by RollBirdsRoll on Jun 4, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
hate that Bleed Cubbie Blue and Brew Crew Ball have the same initials
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Mike
breaks me up. Now an old army story about triplets in with him.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 4, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
way to go man
(signed it a while back)
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
odds he's not pitching next inning?
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Depends on the ankle.
If he’s batting though, it must be ok.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
ankle must be ok
if he beat that out.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
we'll keep taking them
of course we’ll pay when they even out
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
God I love FakeMikeShannon
The old UCLA coach John Wooden died tonight. He saw a lot- WW I, WW II, Great Depression, but never a Cubs WS. heh heh heh #stlcards
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
a somewhat sad laugh.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
______ > dan&al
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
why he has to run on full-count
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Score?
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 10:33 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
...
7-0 now (studwick double)
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Now 7-0
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Hfs! Nice!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 4, 2010 10:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
dammit Danup
Now I’m reading through all the old XKCD cartoons again. . . so much funny, I can’t stop.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I do this about every 3 months.
I read through the archives of all 5-6 webcomics I follow religiously. It’s a pretty time consuming habit, unfortunately. But good for many laughs.
which ones?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 4, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Um. There's a few I kinda-follow, but mostly:
XKCD
Least I Could Do
Ctrl + Alt + Del
The Whiteboard
are the main 4, I guess.
I check up on a few others when I’m poking through my bookmarks for something to do, like…uh… Between Failures, +EV, and Dark Legacy Comics.
the ones I follow
Webcomics
http://www.amazingsuperpowers.com/
http://www.boatcrime.com/
http://www.explosm.net/comics/new/
http://www.arustylife.com/
http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/
http://www.picturesforsadchildren.com/index.php
http://basicinstructions.net/
http://biggercheese.com/index.php
http://xkcd.com/
http://www.optipess.com/
http://www.murraythenut.com/
http://survivingtheworld.net/
http://abstrusegoose.com/
http://theoatmeal.com/comics
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php
http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20091115
http://buttersafe.com/
http://www.smbc-comics.com/
http://www.questionablecontent.net/index.php
http://www.leasticoulddo.com/
http://www.wetherobots.com/
http://thisisindexed.com/
http://scribs.us/
http://www.theunmotivation.com/
http://www.chainbear.com/
http://www.myapokalips.com/
http://www.comics.chickennation.com/
http://www.notquitewrong.com/rosscottinc/
http://pbfcomics.com/
http://www.spaceavalanche.com/
http://drawingboard.smackjeeves.com/
it's not like they're all daily comics...
I use a feed aggregator and I’m currently backed up on about 1400 updates, not all comics though…
Neither of you follow
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 5, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
His hot streaks are getting longer and his cold streaks shorter
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
keepintherunsgoingwick
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Guys! Stop scoring! We gotta save our run differential for other games!
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
as long as
we get the division lead and beat the shit out of these douches, i have no problem with it.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
we probably just went up a win
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
all we are missing is an apu dinger
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I tried to forget 2/3 of that.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
glad it's no longer that.
although edmonds was nice to have in there. dunK and anK… not so much.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
?
neither duncan nor ankiel were bad players while edmonds was here. dunc’s defense might have been painful, but both were good players at that time.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
...
frustrated by the fact that our guys look at pitches down the gut and swing at balls at their shoes.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
You do see the score....yes?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
yes
but it seems to be a pattern this year.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
If guys lose concentration when it's 7-0
I will cut them some slack. Plus, it’s Pujols. He isn’t the guy you should worry about.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
more like a bullpen + franklin implosion.
but we’ve got waino, so i’m not worried.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
this game rocks.
beating a soft-tossing lefty, the untuckers, lots of runz… good night tonight!
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Fly the flag in Wrigleyville, Houston wins 3-1
Paulino gets his first win of the season
Big Z goes 4.1 innings and gives up all 3 runs
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
this was his start?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah just realized...
Z is back in the rotation.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Zambrano = 4.1 IP, 3 ER, 6 H, 3 BB, 3 K, 84 pitches
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
and where's dave duncan?
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
His start yesterday got rained out.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
...
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 4, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You forgot
3) Hitting a lefty hard
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Suppan maybe should hang 'em up...
he had a better career than what might have been predicted for him.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
get the shutout waino
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
don't tempt.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Speaking of tempting
During the Cards eighth inning AB, somebody got ahead of themselves and changed the graphic in the Cards bullpen to show Adam’s record at 8-3. Sure, we were up by 7 or 8 (I don’t know when it was changed, first noticed it after Albert’s AB), but we still had three outs to get. I don’t think I like the organization appearing to so blatantly tempt the GOBs.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 5, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
it was an order
nothing else factors in
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ESPN is tempting the GOB
They hate us!
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
It probably estimates after so many decimal points, eh?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Rounding error
Appease the GOBs
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Adam Fucking Wainright.
He defies your silly probabilities. Also, it’s our WE from the future.
Do we really get on that high of a horse about respecting the game of baseball?
That is seriously all the brewers site is talking about.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
Considering their star player is a douche....
they have to find something to complain about regarding us, or it’d be an even more bitter pill to swallow.
why
is their star a douche? I presume that you refer to the Prince. But I know that his dad really messed up and apparently misappropriated P’s bonus, so he hasn’t had a great experience that way.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 5, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions
non, Braun.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ok
without trying to annoy Brew fans, why, since I am so far away, and lucky to get gameday, is he not so likeable?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 5, 2010 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions
it's a long list
a combination of his doucheyness off the field (see: definition of a douche)
and his cocky shit act on the field. longingly admires his home runs, yet lost almost as much defensively at third base, and now he’s been in left field for a long time and is still terrible. when we joke about him drawing a penis in the dirt before throwing a ball, he actually talks about making snow angels on the warning track. as they say… a legend in his own mind.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/4/11/1415603/game-6-open-thread-stl-mil#34460483
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/5/18/1476617/finding-it-in-your-heart-to#37789743
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
because he plays for the brewers, and is good, and has a contract we are envious of
the brewers have the same opinion of pujols – just the normal back-and-forth banter between fan bases.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That VEB gets on the high horse?
Reely?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
WHO CARES!
The Cardinals are in first and the Brewers suck terribly this year. Adam Wainwright just pitched a dominant game. Let them complain about whatever they want. They’re a bad baseball team that missed their window of opportunity 2 years ago.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Jun 4, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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and the team (along with the fans) are complete douches (not applying to jimmy ed, of course)
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Why are they complete douches?
That word is overused in general, but the constant “so and so is a douche” nonsense is getting tired.
Regression, bitches.
I still don't understand why everyone compares Ryan Braun to a shower anyway
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
it sure the hell is
it was funny with Braun (at first), not so much since it was applied to the who damn team…every freakin time we play em
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
i agree
I never visit other sites (no time), so long as this site is respectful of the opposition (which it it is, I am fine}. I just like more debate about the roster, like why do we have Adam here? The alternative, to me would be…whom? Tyler, Joe, or Kozma (that is a stretch). I couldn’t sleep last night as usual, and I was thinking, was Adam brought up purely for “team leadership” for the younger guys? In whose view? There must have been a TLR/JM debate, or not?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 5, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Adam?
Not quite following whom you are speaking of.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 5, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
What else do they have?
The team is terrible. They’re headed for 95 losses and 4 months of irrelevant baseball. The minors are thin. They don’t have money to bring back Fielder. They’re losing 8-0. And Jeff F. Suppan is pitching.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Speaking of pitching.
One guy said that it really pisses him off that our starters are better in the 9th than theirs are in the 1st.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 4, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they definitely have money for fielder
but i’m not sure they shouldn’t deal him – they still have position talent, should deal for some arms
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I suppose they do...
A long term deal for Fielder seems pretty fraught with risk though.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
I'm sure he'll age gracefully.
Just like Mo Vaughn. And Ryan Howard.
When Jimenez regresses.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
good question
that’s what sucks about being on a midwest team with the wwl’s east coast bias.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
ubaldo plays in denver
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
But Ubaldo has been crazy good
10 wins, under 1 ERA. Any recognition he is getting, he deserves
I want the Walrus back...
I meant
WWL looks at wins, and that’s why he gets mentioned. But yeah, probably not the best argument around VEB. Fuck wins
I want the Walrus back...
He's been amazing.
Just saying Wins are a retarded metric for pitchers, as I’m sure you well know.
he's not the most dominant based on wins, though
it’s based on everything else
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
There are better metrics
but I doubt you made fun of counting stats when they got carp and miller recognition
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
Sure we are derisive toward counting stats.
Last year, based on counting stats, Wainright should have won the Cy – but no one around here disagreed with Lincecum winning it. Superior is superior, and Wins are not a measurement of such.
Ubaldo has been great this year. It’s arguable that Hallday has pitched better, though – just with worse results. The FIP/xFIP vs. ERA arguments.
Yeah but those measurements don't measure what a pitcher did just what they
would do in a vacuum, Ubaldo had a 6BB performance which didn’t help his 2.6 FIP but he also no hit the opponent so the walks didn’t matter.
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
no, halladay has had a couple games where he's been hit
ubaldo has been untouchable. gotta give the man his due – and it’s actually not even close right now between those two
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Halladay gave up 11 hits tonight
but only two runs
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
It's been extremely close.
So a few balls find the holes against Halladay, and Ubaldo has a BABIP against of what, about .220? Ubaldo has had much better results, while they’ve actually pitched to similar levels of dominance.
Ubaldo won’t have a .220 BABIP against, and a 95% strand rate forever.
yeah but don't pretend a 95% strand rate is an accident either
there have been several mid-high 80% strand rates and even if you tripled Ubaldos ERA it would still be below Timmys the last two years
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
95% strand rate, while not an 'accident'
is merely a function of the solid K rate, and yes, a little bit of luck. A strand rate of 77-80% wouldn’t cause me to bat an eye. Where he’s at isn’t sustainable in the least.
what was gibby's strand rate the year of 1.12?
whatever it was, must have been pretty good.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Don't have a clue.
Probably in the 85-86% range, if I had to guess. That year was obscene. I seem to remember his FIP being like…1.8? Which is amazing beyond belief. As an example, Ubaldo’s FIP this season is 2.6
i could see it ending about where gibby's was
not gonna hit homers when you can’t even hit singles off the guy, and he’s only had a game or two that have inflated his walk totals.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He'll give up more hits than he has.
He’ll naturally have a lower BABIP than most due to the nature of his stuff, but it’ll regress closer to .260 than .220, which, in addition to his propensity to string some walks on occasion, will hurt him a little.
Mind you, I’m not disparaging Ubaldo’s performance at all so far this year. Just saying that while the results have been amazing, there’s been a little bit of a luck and timing element involved. That’s always going to be the case for ‘Nintendo-like’ numbers, though, unless your K/BB rates are off the chart.
That could be true but the guy is
a ground ball pitcher with a 8+ k/9 and an elite defense behind him he seems poised to put up a historic year
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
For the year to actually be
‘historic’, I think he’ll need to trim the walks, ‘and’ up his K rate. Or maybe just trim the walks.
Baseball is a fickle game, unfortunately. Balls put in play occasionally find holes. Sometimes they do it a few times in a row, even when hit on the ground, and not terribly hard.
If Ubaldo can bring his walk rate down under 2, I’ll be sold on him, entirely. But that’s going to be pretty tough to do, considering the amount of movement he gets.
If you just have to settle for an awesome year, instead of a historic one…. somehow I can’t imagine you’ll be all that upset about it.
And an awesome year is about what I expect. Something in the range of a 2.5 era with a K/BB rate around 3.
You are probably right here is Gibbys 25-26 year up against Ubaldos 24-25 yr
w-l G GS Inn k/9 bb/9 hr/9 BABIP LOB%
13-12 35 27 211.1 7.07 5.07 0.55 .287 75.1
15-13 32 30 233.2 8.01 3.66 0.58 .261 75.6 %
12-12 34 34 198.2 7.79 4.67 0.50 .306 70.8 %
15-12 33 33 218.0 8.17 3.51 0.54 .290 73.5 %
Wow tough to format can you guess who is who?
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
also on walks he has 1 6BB start(no hitter)
1 4BB start a 3BB start and the rest are two or under. In his last eight starts he has 1 4BB game 5 2BB games and 2 1BB games so it seems like he is commanding his pitches much better
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
The formatting on the tables makes my eyes hurt.
But yeah, he’s ‘only’ had a few bad starts in terms of walks…but over the course of a season, that tendency will hurt him in rate stats. Not sure ‘why’ he has nights like that.
Mechanical inconsistency? Don’t really know. All I’m really saying is, if he’s going to have those games, you’re going to have to be prepared for his end-year stats to be less shiny than you’d like.
Walks + balls in play finding holes = bad combination. I’m looking forwards to seeing what he does for the rest of the year, though. I’m just trying to be realistic – 0.78 is amazing, but…. 2.5 or so is more likely. Still awesome, of course.
especially since he is a Rockie they of the 5.5 era starters
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
Not really sure where you're going with that, if anywhere.
Are you just trying to say people are only expecting him to regress a little bit because of the perceived notion that ‘all Rockies pitchers must suck’?
No just that for years
Rockies fans have had to hear why their hitters are actually not very good and are only good because they play at Coors. Well unlike Timmeh, Ubaldo plays half of his games at Coors and is still dominant. If Todd Helton’s .372 /.463 /.698 with 42hrs and 59 doubles is only good for fifth in the MVP then Ubaldo better get the converse weight in his stats.
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
Regarding the 'Inverse Coors Effect'
I don’t think Coors really has the same reputation that it did back in Helton’s prime.
I don’t have the park factors in front of me or anything, but isn’t Coors actually middle of the pack these days, as opposed to an extreme Hitter’s Park?
Funny how perception changes
but Helton still lead the NL in WAR and finished the park factor has dropped but Ubaldo has a 574 era+ even if you cut that in to thirds it is amazing. Holliday still lost to Rollins two years ago and there was plenty of Coors Field Creation talk
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
he's got a third of the season in the books
though – sort of like the pythags we took a look at earlier, if you were around for that, where teams are projected with winning records yet a negative run differential, because of what they already have in the books.
if his era triples from here on out, it will still fall well below the 2.5 overall – i think you have to account for what’s in the books. unless you think his era here on out will be more like 4.
i do know his highest walk game was the no-hitter, so there’s that. his other game of high walk total, maybe tomcat knows how he did in that game.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that was his 7 inning 2 hit loss to LA
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
you know Maddux only had 4 seasons
with a FIP lower than Ubaldo has and the only one where Smoltz did it he was a reliever
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
I took what was already done into account
when I said he’d end around 2.5.
So you see him around 4.00 going forward?
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
Probably closer
to mid 3’s, but yeah, I see some of his peripherals evening out.
huh
well, i have to disagree. i could see his true level at 2.5, but to put it at 4 is really not giving him much credit. do you think he’s a top ten pitcher in the national league?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Top 10 in NL?
Yeah, I’d say so. I think his true talent level lies in the low 3’s, unless he can consistently churn out a respectable walk rate. You can’t really just wish away bad starts, walk-wise – bad starts happen, even if he’s been fortunate with balls in play in his high walk games so far this year.
He’ll regress somewhat, and still pitch well the rest of this season, but he’ll get nickel and dimed a few times when his control leaves him, and it’ll deflate the more conventional stats a bit.
ZIPS has him at 2.68 at year end, and 3.77 going forwards. I think he’ll be a little under that, closer to 2.5 / 3.5.
bad starts do happen
but there’s no need to wish them away until they do actually occur – i don’t believe he’s had one, tbh.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he had one walkwise
6 walks is 6 walks but it did happen in a No-No so it was far from a bad start
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Sure, he had 6 walks in a start.
We call it a good start for some reason, because he was fortunate enough that all balls were catchable/able to be converted into outs. What if his BABIP that game had even been on line with his season average?
Those walks get moved around, possibly even score, and instead of calling it a good game and ignoring the high walk total, it’d be a point of concern.
Regarding Lincecum, I dunno. I’d say taking the past into account, Lincecum is a safer bet to have better control going forwards, although he ‘has’ been struggling as of late. Makes me wonder if he’s trying to work through a nagging injury or something.
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then he might have given
up one more run. That said at least one of his earned runs came after what should have been an error advanced a runner so he could just as easily given up 6 runs
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you seem to think that BB/9
is a static thing or indicative of “control” Smoltz walked 100 in his 26yr old season and lead the league in walks another he wasn’t a ’wild" pitcher was he? Glavine had 3.8 BB/9 as a 28 yr old was he wild?
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Sure, Tom Glavine had
pretty bad control a few years, and it never was all that great. I’m in the camp that thinks he was a bit overrated, honestly. A career FIP of 4? Meh.
what about smoltzie?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how about smoltz?
Chris Carpenter never had a BB/9 rate below 3 untill he left Toronto two years older than Ubaldo is now
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Halladay poster a 4.8 walk rate
in his first full season(22yr) Roger Clemens had BB/9 rates over 3.3 in 10 of his season in the bigs
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i'm just kind of laughing
realizing ubaldo is the most discussed pitcher on this site lately…probably makes him less desirable to most here, understandable considering this is a cards site and we have waino and carp.
i was pimping ely until i realized we have our own rookie and so it rubbed people the wrong way, and again that’s understandable.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ely is so unfair
I you had told Colletti at the start of the year you would take Pierre and his contract, and that his PTBNL would be a swift kick in the groin he would have smiled and spread’em
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I like what I've seen from Ely, for the most part.
Control is pretty solid, K rates are decent if not spectacular, and his luck-driven peripherals don’t stand out as greatly influencing his results in a positive manner.
I’d like to see him generate a slightly higher GB/FB rate, perhaps, but all in all, he’s been superb.
i think he's loving it now
but ely was pretty devastated to be traded, tbh.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
And traded for....
Juan Pierre. Shows how much they thought of him.
Of course who wants to
feel not good enough
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well, the sox actually valued pierre
it wasn’t that so much as it was him growing up a diehard sox fan and signing because they drafted him (3rd round) – otherwise he likely would have pitched his senior year at miami ohio.
he was on their top ten prospects list everywhere, had gone 14-2 in AA last year, and considered to have the best off-speed in the org. i don’t think they undervalued him so much as overvaluing pierre.
that said, he got to the majors faster this way, as he only made three AAA starts for the isotopes before getting the call.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Gah Pierre wasn't worth that
guy when he was entering his prime let alone leaving it
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hey, i'm not kenny williams
i hated it happened, but now i’m sort of glad – ely wouldn’t have sniffed a start with the sox this year, and probably not even an outing from the pen or a sept. callup
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
haha by the way did you catch ely
on Not Top Ten… nothing major… he started walking off the field before the inning was over (the classic “how many outs are there?”)
rookie mistake
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
Smoltz and Carp
both were fairly wild in their younger days. Carp was just bad, to go along with being wild.
I’m not denying that Ubaldo could post better walk rates as he gets older, and in fact, I expect that to happen. When he loses a mph or two off of that heater, he’ll need to command it a little bit better, or he won’t be nearly as effective.
But right now, his walk rate is a little too high for him to consistently pitch as well as he has been. It’s indicative of a few poor performances going forwards. Everyone you’ve listed with high walk rates when they were younger had these poor performances mixed in with some excellent starts (or just poor performances, in some cases).
I’m not really sure where any of this is going. Ubaldo has pitched well, and he’ll continue to be good – just he’ll end up with results more fitting of how well he has pitched, instead of results that don’t accurately portray his performance.
Even ending the year even under 3 would have to be a great success for the kid. As he matures as a pitcher, I expect his command to get better, and perhaps add another pitch to his arsenal to counter a slight drop in velocity. Most of the pitchers mentioned with high walk rates early in their careers did just that, after all. Splitters and cutters in particular.
I think you may be the recipient
of some of VEP’s pot stirring he ended our discussion of Carp and Ubaldo by saying Carp has never been as wild as Ubaldo. That was the whole of his argument, and it burned me a bit.
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sorry about the walkoff just happened
but back to the discussion, i think ubaldo must have a rep as a pitcher with a fastball and nothing else. if i had that fastball, i’d rely on it too, but he has other pitches that will also improve.
in the last game he pitched against lincecum, the giants announcers acknowledged that ubaldo had the best stuff in the league – best stuff, not best fastball.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ubaldo does have a pretty good changeup.
I’m not all that impressed with his breaking stuff, however.
when he's pitching against their own
tim lincecum, and they say that, it gets your attention. i’m not taking my cues from them, because i could have told them that myself, just saying that it is noteworthy.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Sucked
but the bullpen looked uncharacteristically shaky tonight.
He has amazing break on it
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That's a pretty awesome clip.
I love his changeup, and fastball, of course. His breaking stuff seems to be more of an eye-level changer than anything, and isn’t really effective. I think he needs a third plus pitch going forwards – his fastball isn’t going to be this good as he ages. Cutter? Splitter? Improving the Curve? I don’t really know.
His slider was 15 runs above
average last year, but a splitter or cutter would be great, too bad Bus Campbell is dead he could teach him that Knuckle Curve/Cutter combo Halladay uses
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He hasn't used the slider much this year
and it’s been pretty ineffective when he has. But he’s compensated by throwing the changeup more than ever, and his changeup is a nasty, nasty pitch.
Not sure why he’s throwing the slider so much less, though. Perhaps he felt a little discomfort from it? Or maybe just feels the changeup is a better pitch to throw in some similar situations.
certainly can't argue with the
results
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Yeah, certainly not.
My guess is he used the slider in favorable pitchers counts last year, which, of course, are going to generate good results on the pitch – even if the pitch itself isn’t amazing. He somewhat replaced the slider in some of those counts with the changeup this year – for much improved results.
This leads to the slider being what it is – an average ‘look at me’ pitch, and the changeup being showcased as a truly top notch out pitch.
This make sense?
probably why his
Z-Swing has dropped 6% and his O-Swing rate is up 4% he has a much lower swinging strike rate but all of these numbers are SSS
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that is badass
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Seems lucky that
Uribe didn’t hit it
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ha
yes, quite a bit of good fortune for ubaldo on that one.
speaking of the knuckle-curve, the best guy to grasp it i taught is graduating from the same high school as ely this year. he’s a lefty who’s been pitching since he’s 8 – and i mean pitching, mind-wise – and is better than john at this age. he reminds me a lot of garcia, and it would be great if the cards got him in a similar round as jaime – he’s only throwing 88-89 now, but he’s a year younger than his graduation class too.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That pitch took some
getting used to from the receiving end, but was really effective once the pitcher got it down.
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it isn't really wishing it away
Timmy has now walked 5 in 5 straight games would you say he has more or less control problems than Ubaldo
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he's also giving up a perfect stolen-base avg.
at least going in to that last game against you guys, runners were 12-12 and 4-4 the preceding game. i saw helton steal third on him easily, but the batter fouled it off. there seems to be something going on in the lad’s head, where bochy had to call him in to the office.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Heh.
The stolen base thing isn’t entirely on Lincecum, though he does need to at least pretend to keep the runners honest. Bengie Molina is pretty terrible.
Good thing the Giants are letting a pretty solid defensive catcher learn the game by playing first base.
it's not his fault entirely
but most bases are stolen off the pitcher, and giants fans will tell you this is the case here – their announcers talk about it, his lapses where he doesn’t even look at a runner for a couple pitches in a row
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Oh, yeah, I'm not denying that
Lincecum is horrible at holding runners on.
But when an entire pitching staff has horrible stolen base against rates….you have to start looking at the dude behind the plate as well.
well, giants fans will also say
bengie sucks.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Which he does.
He’s a black hole offensively, defensively, and has no place on their roster. Whiteside is the superior defensive catcher, and should be the backup to Posey.
Trade Bengie for a bucket of testicle sweat or something, and the team would be better off.
i'm not saying that here
about a molina (but in private i might agree)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yadi isn't his brother.
I love Yadi. Bengie is just a bad baseball player at this point in his career, and handled things badly with the Posey situation.
Posey needs to be catching, and Bengie won’t accept a backup job. Bit petty of him, honestly, and makes him a poor teammate. Cutting him, or trading him for almost nothing is the only viable course of action.
they should have just brought posey
up last year and told bengie too damn bad in the offseason
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Mm. Maybe.
I’d have been okay with opening the year with Whiteside as the starting catcher, and Holm or something as the backup, until they called Posey up to take over starting duties at the start of June.
There was some interesting things I looked at regarding Catching ERA’s that showed Whiteside as being much, much better than Bengie. Even enough to make him a viable starting option for most teams, overriding his anemic bat.
It was a solid business decision, or at least a defensible one, to have Posey stay in minors until June of this year. I don’t begrudge Sebean that. The decision to have Bengie on the roster, I do blame him for.
The decision to keep giving the guy starts, I blame Bochy for (who really is a god awful manager). The Burrell signing by the Giants was likewise….questionable.
thing about posey is
they thought him a bit raw as a catcher, and wanted him catching every day in the minors and working with a catching coach. tough to just turn your staff, which is why you could be in contention, over to a rookie catcher. they finally caved because they needed a bat, and so were willing to put him at first, but his bat doesn’t play as well there, and he’s not really considered, by them, to be an everyday catcher yet at this level.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah but their window on Cain Lincecum
is closing they should have been all hands on deck last year
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Hoot is actually a pretty good comp on Ubaldo
very similar stuff, BB/9, K/9
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i don't know
i’ve seen all ubaldo’s starts, but only about half of halladay’s. i haven’t really seen it to be that close.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's almost sad to see
that armando galarraga has more recognition than waino right now. of course, we know why, but still.
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Halladay finally getting a little recognition doesn't bother me at all
he has deserved it for a long time
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In all fairness,
any recognition of Galarraga should be directed towards the guy’s attitude. I steal cannot think of any other player with that amount of grace, sportsmanship and humbleness.
I want the Walrus back...
Adam has 3 losses.
Dude just doesn’t know how to win. Carlos Silva is much better, obviously.
no
but ubaldo is right now.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't know about that
This year, Wainwright’s FIP is slightly higher, and his xFIP is lower. And that’s not including his shutout last night. If you recalculate his ERA for the shoutout, it’s only 2.04, which is over a point higher than Jimenez’, but not that much larger than the xFIP gap this season between the two. So I would say that Jimenez has pitched better so far this season, but not by a huge margin.
And if you look at previous seasons and projections, Wainwright blows him away.
right now though ubaldo is the class of the major leagues
that could all change (i don’t think it will, because he can even get better), but for right now i don’t know how he hasn’t been the most dominant pitcher this year. arguably his worst game was a no-hitter where he was throwing upper 90’s in the 9th – maybe that’s a little nolan ryanesque.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Still don't know how people say he's unquestionably been the most dominant. Numbers don't really lie.
FIP Leaders:
2.31 Halladay
2.40 Liriano
2.60 Jimenez
2.61 Wainright
2.66 Johnson
Perhaps it’s in how you view dominance. His K rate is solid, but not really anything special. Walk rate is better than it has been in the past, but still is a tad on the high side. He’s been very fortunate with batted ball results, both HR/FB and BABIP.
He’s unquestionably had very good results, but he hasn’t pitched all that much better than a handful of others, but all metrics that measure such things.
Regarding xFIP, which is, without question, the best metric we have for predicting future results… I think we’d need to weight it slightly for someone that generates the movement Ubaldo does. He’s going to have a HR/FB rate slightly lower than the league average, but it’s going to be higher than 1.6%, as well. 8% sounds about right, in my book. A ‘stuff-adjusted xFIP’ (switching HR/FB rate modifier to 0.08 instead of 0.11) would give Ubaldo an adjFIP in the 3.2 range, which honestly sounds about right.
Ubaldo also probably has the ability to generate worse contact on balls in play
So I’d be comfortable giving him a .280 BABIP going forward and a 7.5% HR/FB. But those numbers are still astronomically higher than his current ones, and would push his expected ERA into the high 2’s range.
I don’t know why cardball is so infatuated with Jimenez. Sure he has amazing stuff, but he doesn’t get a lot of strikeouts, walks a bit too many hitters, and has a good, but not elite ground ball rate.
This year, Wainwright has pitched slightly more innings per start, more strikeouts per 9, fewer walks per 9, and an identical ground ball rate. And according to FanGraphs batted ball data, the two have allowed a similar amount of line drives (13.3% for Ubaldo vs. 14.9% for Wainwright).
You really can’t make a statistical case that Ubaldo has been better than Wainwright THIS YEAR, not even considering past results. The ONLY advantage Ubaldo has on Wainwright is a lower ERA, and we know that is influenced by many other things than pitcher skill. Even then, Wainwright’s ERA is right at 2.05, which isn’t that much higher than Ubaldo’s.
It’s absolutely ridiculous to say that Jimenez has unquestionably been the best pitcher in the major leagues. Among pitchers with at least 50 innings pitched this year, Ubaldo has the 4th best FIP (and BARELY above Wainwright and Johnson), and the 15th best xFIP.
Obviously there is a lot more to pitching that what is captured in FIP or xFIP, but not nearly as much as the ERA discrepancy is. Ubaldo is getting lucky, plain and simple. He threw a complete game shutout no-hitter, with 6 walks and 7 strikeouts and allowed more fly balls than groundballs. That is CLEARLY an astronomically lucky start and given his freaking .223 BABIP this year, he’s been getting lucky in other starts as well.
You can say that Ubaldo has the best fastball in the majors and his command might improve, but as of this moment, there are many other pitchers who are pitching better this year and project better into the future than Jimenez.
It comes down to Performance vs. Results, in my mind.
Ubaldo, without question, has had the best results so far this year. You can’t really argue with what 0.78 ERA means to a team, no matter how lucky/fortunate/fluky it was.
I covered almost every one of your points (and agreeing with them) in the subthread down (up? whatever) this thread. Average K rate. High BB rate. Mediocre K/BB rate. Low BABIP. Low HR/FB rate. Unsustainable LOB rate.
What Ubaldo does have going for him is an absolutely filthy fastball/changeup combo – the best in baseball, in my mind. This does generate a lot of weak contact – impacting the ‘luck’ driven factors more than one might like to admit. I’d feel pretty comfortable with him ending the year around 2.5 era. He may well win 22+ games, for whatever that’s worth (not much, if anything), and will have had an incredibly successful season considering the expectations for him this year.
If Ubaldo can manage to command his unquestionably filthy stuff a little bit better, develop a plus third pitch – I’d prefer a curve, cutter, or split (his current curve is pretty meh, and it’s an ideal out pitch compared to his functional, but gb-inducing slider), he could evolve into the best pitcher in the game, by any metric. He’s still young, he’s still able to improve command. His control isn’t ‘that’ bad, it’s just not nearly elite. If he can improve it…..
At any rate. He’s a lot of fun to watch, and I’m tired of having to point out the same things over and over regarding his past and future performance. So this is my last post regarding Ubaldo, for now. Peace.
ok, well, we agree on more than we disagree
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
there are many other pitchers who are pitching better this year?
how do you define many? i haven’t seen one, much less even a few.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
name the "many" other pitchers
when i say seen, i mean seen, with my own eyes. i may have missed some people, so if you name them i could perhaps reconcile this notion in my mind – there very well could be some pitchers having phenomenal years that i am unaware of, so just point me in their direction and i will give it a look.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Wainwright, Halladay, Cliff Lee, Josh Johnson
I watch Wainwright pitch every start and I think he’s been the best pitcher in baseball over the past two years. I haven’t seen much of the other three.
eh, i don't believe in predicting the future
you are giving jimenez an 8% rate, which is what lohse had in 2008. we are only looking at what has happened, to date, anyway. you put up one stat, FIP, and he’s third on that – that’s great. he’s first in era – that’s great. for a groundball pitcher, he gets a good number of k’s – that’s great. he throws upper 90’s late into games – that’s great. he has a nasty change – that’s great.
i don’t know how much you’ve seen him this year, but he has just dominated. i haven’t seen that for awhile, so excuse me for being appreciative of his performances. and he’s consistent – hasn’t had a single bad or mediocre start.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You still haven't shown that Ubaldo has been the best pitcher in the majors this year!
Among starters with at least 50 innings pitched this year, Jimenez ranks the following in a plethora of pitching stats:
FIP: 4th
ERA: 1st
xFIP: 15th
SIERA: 15th
Of course neither of these stats are perfect, but the only one that Ubaldo leads in is ERA, and you know I can give you a 100 reasons why ERA might be wrong in this case. I could also give you 100 reasons why xFIP might be wrong, but that’s besides the point.
In only one pitching metric does Ubaldo rank the best so far this year. In the three others listed (I’m sure there are more, but those are the three readily available) he ranks anywhere from the 4th to the 15th best.
If you want to average each of those 4 metrics out, you get Ubaldo with an expected ERA of 2.56. If you do that for Wainwright, you get an expected ERA of 2.67 – hardly a difference. If you do that for Halladay, you get an expected ERA of 2.56 – identical to Ubaldo. If you do that for Cliff Lee, you get an expected ERA of 2.56 as well. Josh Johnson = 2.78.
Based on those 4 stats, Ubaldo is not clearly pitching better than anyone in the ML. Wainwright, Cliff Lee and Roy Halladay are right there with him.
no, i can't show that ubaldo has been the best
just as you can’t show he hasn’t. we can make all our arguments, but it is still an opinion either way. we just have different opinions.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yes, he is by far the most dominant pitcher in baseball right now
but i do not understand zoomzoom saying east coast bias on a dude from denver
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i didn't say that
i suppose espn takes a pitcher who’s been good (like ubaldo) and sticks with him while he’s good. greinke’s another good example.
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umm, yeah, two great pitchers
don’t know what you mean about while he’s good – they are both young and will be good for a very long time, barring injury. it’s not like they are flukes
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
their seasons.
greinke last year, ubaldo this year. wins, era, etc.
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ok, but still those are going to be two of the most talked about
pitchers every year for years to come.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think he means win they put up the sub 1 era
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waino dominating CG WINNER!
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congrats, waino on the first career complete game shutout
fucking ace
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
his first shutout?
that is rather surprising.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
against a pretty good offense
only 1 walk i think.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
18 i believe
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
it's amazing
that this dude is actually better than he was last year
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
A.D.A.M. elimination program run.........complete.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Damn
It’s getting severely painful to watch these postgame shows. TTTAJack Clark is not easy to listen to.
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
indeed.
if the cards play as good as they did tonight for a while, i’ll be a happy man.
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Wonder if the team could go to a three-pitcher rotation? Super game. . .
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It's being considered
over the next stretch with days off available.
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
It was discussed in the earlier thread;
most commenters seemed to think it is a bad idea.
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
Is that you, Dusty?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
+1 . . .but not DBag
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if they could
we’d have one of the best rotations in baseball. carp-waino-garcia. damn.
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Rather see a 4ish man rotation of sorts.
Pitching Adam and Carp as consistently as possible, while limiting the starts of our rookies. I love me some Jaime, but I don’t want to overwork him this year, especially not this early in the year.
i could see them going to a 4 man
and frankly i wouldn’t mind it, but a 3 man would be a stretch.
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Makes more sense than going 3
The team is still carrying 13 pitchers, right?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
12 + Miles and Floppy
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back to the minors?
seems to fit best
/craig > miles
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Second base.
Not the second baseman; the base.
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
Spray paint him white, and just have...
him be really gritty. Spike marks fade away, the pride in being a good second base is forever.
Does Fredbird need an apprentice? Maybe cast Miles in a remake of the Hobbit until then
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+1 - My complments, sir. . .
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Did LaRussa just say the Dominican we just signed is going to be a star?
I couldn’t hear the question and he mumbled half the response
Onubon > Gates
I thought they were talking about Ludwick.
Clearly I too have no idea what was said.
Regression, bitches.
It sounded like he butchered some Spanish name
I though I hear him say Matiras or something
Onubon > Gates
I went back and listened again
and I think he was talking about Alcides Escobar. I think the question was about “that catch on Ludwick”.
Onubon > Gates
that makes sense
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Question
What’s the last time that a team had two starters with an ERA at or below 2 this late in the season?
yeah I know.
but i assume that Waino will bring it down at the beginning of next start
by LandSickness on Jun 4, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
waino & carp
each had era’s around 2 last year.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Brew Crew Ball
really hates baseball etiquette. Just hate hate hate it. If there is one thing that is going to ruin this sport, it’s etiquette.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
and their game thread
a measly 234 comments.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
not only that
but they trashed us cards fans who went over there. and THEY thought WE were the douchebags…
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
I think I got banned...
They’re just in a bad mood… As they should be. If Jeff Suppan was making $12 million to pitch for my team I might just have to switch allegiance.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
It's okay.
We don’t have Jeff Suppan.
Just Kyle Lohse.
slight difference between a guy sucking and a guy injured
i didn’t disparage carp the couple years he missed.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
don't know what that matters
he’s comparing two guys as if similar. suppan was never going to earn his salary. lohse was earning his salary till hurt. yes, there was no extra value, so it wasn’t a great team deal, but neither is there with oswalt.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm just saying that of course you don't disparage carp the couple years he missed.
I believe that Lohse turned a corner in his pitching ability once he joined the Cardinals, but I can understand those you don’t.
Regression, bitches.
That last you should be a who. I'm probably too tired to be typing. Or anything.
Regression, bitches.
/passes Spants the bottle.
Never too tired to drink!
just wash a handful of percocet down with some vodka and go to bed like a nice housefrau
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
well as long as it's yours
he probably doesn’t appreciate picking pebbles out of his teeth
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
if he makes you clean the floor with one he deserves it
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
although I have a hard time imagining
anyone making you do anything
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
well, grade schoolers have that opposites day
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i don't picture anything i read here
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
maybe you could let hime wear the spants once in a while?
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
no, i agree
they say there are beatles folks and stones folks (or maybe elvis was one?) – i think there are waino people and carp people. last year i thought carp should win the cy, and still think waino will never be at-his-best carp. that doesn’t mean i don’t think waino is great, because i do, but i’m a carp guy – in other words, i could never disparage him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
perhaps we still have strings on Mark Mulder, too. Wonder if the DBAX would take him in a trade for Haren?
They could have a hell of the DL with Brandon Webb and MM
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
you probably did
but we don’t care, really. they’re just depressed d-bags. i can see why, but they don’t have to trash us when they’re the ones who don’t set a good example.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
I don't blame them for hating us
or being in a bad mood. Just the Adam comment wasn’t good.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
and we had to fight back.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
Hey look...
… now you’re a douchebag on TWO sites in one night!
Ban me. It’s totally worth it. :)
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 4, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
simba!!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Indeed he was.
What begins in fear usually ends in folly.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on Jun 5, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
he's like the ryan braun of blogging
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
dontrelle starting tomorrow for d'backs
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That whole team is going to get sliced and diced...
Monumental disapointment. I was living down there a few years ago and they had the blue chip prospects stacked like cord wood. Drew, Jackson, Quentin, Upton, Reynolds, Carlos Gonzalez, Brett Anderson, Chris Young…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
I was going to say...
‘fuck the eel cat’….
but then I pictured that.
you know what we say...
don’t ever…
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
wow, ian stewart just hit a bomb off ian kennedy
and they were high-school teammates.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That offense is really coming alive
hey Cody care to play double or nothing on which Ian(Stewart, Kinsler) hits more this year?
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
lot of ian up in there
sounds like a good place to be
by LandSickness on Jun 5, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe our pitching staff is first in the majors now.
So Wainwright sent us into first twice today.
Onubon > Gates
yeah, we've been neck-and-neck with san diego for awhile
tampa was first not much more than a week ago, but they’ve fallen down.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
trick is to be there after game 162 - but feels quite good now. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
just have to say
that was a GREAT game to be at.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 5, 2010 12:26 AM EDT reply actions
also, i fell in love tonight.
so that’s good.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 5, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
What, was lunchables doing a promotion at Busch tonight?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
cute.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 5, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
OK, so instead of watching Waino pitch possibly the most brilliant game of his career thus far
I was at the Kansas / Foreigner / Styx show. Yup.
So anyway, when the appropriate sentimental moment arrived in the show, it struck me.. yeah I bet they do. And sure enough, there was a virtual lighter app for my phone. Biggest. Dork. Ever. But it entertained the family for a few minutes.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
I have
no idea about your concert techno speak, but used to be a big Kansas fan. although not as good as the Brit alternatives, Gentle Giant, Genesis, Yes, etc., not to mention the Canadian ones.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 5, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Great game tonight
followed by a good fireworks show. I thought about getting a scorecard on the way in, then didn’t ‘cause I figured I wouldn’t be able to keep it up and help corral the grandson. Now I wish I had! That has to be the best game by a Card’s pitcher I’ve ever seen in person. Once we got in the shade, it wasn’t even very hot. I don’t imagine I’ll be as comfortable tomorrow although our tics are supposed to be in the shade.
should be interesting seeing otto tomorrow
it is otto tomorrow, right?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Is there peoples still here?
I’m bored
"Tomorrow's game starts at high noon. High Noon. That's a great movie with the Duke. Shane, come back, Shane!" - Mike Shannon
Just finished up the replay
big grin from Waino after the last out. That had to feel fantastic. Hell, I had no idea it was his first shutout. I thought it was his first CGSO. How did he not have a shutout before now. Hard to believe.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
Er.
What is your distinction between CGSO and shutout? Heh.
A shutout that the bullpen finishes?
I guess the starter doesn’t get credit in that case, though (shrug).
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 5, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, gotta go nine
cgso is an unnecessary term.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I blame my classic rock addled brain.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 5, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Not really.
Shutting out the opponent is awesome no matter how many pitchers it takes.
Regression, bitches.
a shutout is by definition a complete game by one pitcher
so when you name one pitcher – waino- and say he had a shutout, then that means it was a complete game. thus, no need to be redundant. we know it is a complete game. by adding the phrase, it implies you don’t know the definition of shutout. you can say someone pitched 7 shutout innings, but you can’t say someone pitched a 7-inning shutout.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Unless it was weather shortened
but, yeah…..
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 7, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
best mixtape ever
Just heard “My Name Is Jonas” on the replay, wondering who has taste in the clubhouse. The workers are going home!
thank goodness
I thought there would be no mixtape.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I just went over to take a look at Brew Crew ball
and that is the saddest excuse for a baseball blog Ive ever seen. It was nothing but whining, hateful comments towards opposing players (that include wishing opposing players got hurt), and pessimism.
I didnt see a single informed post over there and they took a shot a Cardinals fans, Busch Stadium, and Albert Pujols every chance they got.
Its gotta have something to do with the initials BCB.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
and yes, some of our posters antagonizing them probably didnt help.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'You're playing like Betty White out there!'
'That's not what your girlfriend said.'
there are never shots taken of wrigley here
or cubs fans, or zambrano or braun. i’m glad we are above those other sites.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
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