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Watching Barry Enright (wasn't that the dude in Rocky Horror Picture Show?), somehow shut down our offense just like every other shitty pitcher in this league is really, really pissing me off. Seriously, I've never seen a more frustrating team.

And guess what, Suppan? You still suck. 

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is the manner in which i would like to score runs

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Just say no to LOBsters

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

already?

wow. must be a real boring game.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

shut the huck up, al

he is still going on about colby being home run happy

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

he is

but the reason why he is striking out a lot is because he hit a bunch of home runs

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I always worry when young hitters go on home run binges. That is something that really, really concerns me.

by mojowo11 on Jun 30, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

One of the "ask the broadcaster" questions for Shannon was what does OPS stand for?

I was really hoping for something crazy, but sadly he gave a succinct and accurate answer. Then he said one of the scariest sentences in Cardinal baseball, “It’s up to Nick Stavinoha.”

by BTown Birds fan on Jun 30, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I was hoping he would describe what it is more in depth

but he barely talked about it. like stats are unimportant

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew it

we scored all of our runs last night, now we can’t score any in game 3

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

i knew it too

and i knew that today was tony’s throw-away game. he hates sweeps.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently the whole team hates sweeps

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

just have to concentrate on winning the series remember?

It’s a long season. You’ve got to tip your hat to their guy, he pitched well. Just couldn’t find the holes… Am I missing anything? Oh yea, Day games after a night game are tough.

by thewizard3 on Jun 30, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much everything here I agree with.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of do too

but, I do think at this point in time the team could really benefit from a sweep, get some mo going. I think Tony agrees, and wants to get one of these. But he doesn’t like to dog his players, especially a pet. So he comes up with the same rationalizations of why we lose over and over, and it gets old. So, I was more making fun of Tony’s habits than disagreeing with him. But I’m also mad at him for Aaron Miles and Nick Stavinoha… so everytime I get ticked at him it becomes magnified…. ahh that was a good vent.

by thewizard3 on Jun 30, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh. "up to stavinoha"

That’s never good

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Jun 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

As predictable as the sun rise

By the way, how have Allen Craig and Joe Mather been doing?

Mather: .324 with a .848 OPS.
Craig: .305 with a .882 OPS.

How about Tyler Greene? .839 OPS.

Naw, we’d rather have Miles and Stavinoha on our short bench.

With this kind of roster management ineptness, no wonder this team has played .500 ball for two months now.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta love it...

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

and no reality shows.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about jay?

plus our roster management absolutely sucks. hate how we’re not giving our young guys a chance.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's Greene's AVG?

I’m too lazy to look.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so he's like d'Artagnan?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always mix them up, so I'll defer to someone who's read it more recently.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

very simple

You’re forgetting the “tough out” factor for Stav, and the “proven” factor for Miles. Which are way more important than any fancy stat.

by thewizard3 on Jun 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wallace is hitting

.301 / .869
In case someone was wondering. No one? Just me? Oh well

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Jun 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of Ks as well

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jun 30, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

working on power stroke

so the k’s nothing to really worry about – he’s still a beast.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 1, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...

#)_(&@&(!)(^#)(^!!#!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Al mentioned Allen Craig

whoa.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

If Al is suddenly clued in to how good Craig is

they he must really be in trouble

"I've had pretty good success with Stan (Musial) by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine

by spfldbird on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK THE LOBSTERS

what a frustrating game

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Jun 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Shannon just realized that he missed cinco de mayo

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

he's also making fun of suppan's fastball

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suppan's Fastball

is a punch line to a joke. But I don’t blame Suppan — he’s not the one signing his paycheck.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Milwaukee is.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jun 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Listening to the game, I could never tell if we were facing Barry Enright or Berrian Wright. Doesnt matter, I dont think we would have scored off either.

by bikestl on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i like how al is blaming the pace of this game on the batters and the umpires

and not suppan.

dan says the umpire needs to call strikes. i say maybe suppan should throw some.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

"dan says the umpire needs to call strikes. i say maybe suppan should throw some."

::moneyshot

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jun 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

where is brendan ryan playing?

jesus christ i feel like a broken record

by LukeMP1186 on Jun 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

the mismanagement of Brendan Ryan

who knows who dunnit.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

hey! 99.99!

a bright spot in the game!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I was going to say

“we’re effed now. Dan Haren hitting.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

mother of god

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

Isn’t Haren’s hitting alone already worth 1 WAR?

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the bench guys care about being passed over?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jun 30, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am gonna hate Dan Haren also

Wait, I already hate Joey Votto. Can I hate Haren too. Ok, I will be supremely resentful of haren until he comes back to his sense and stl.

"I've had pretty good success with Stan (Musial) by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine

by spfldbird on Jun 30, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can hate as many players as you like

I don’t limit myself

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Suppan takes forever

just to get hit hard.. He sure takes a long time to suck. The antithesis of Paris Hilton

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Jun 30, 2010 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

and a rec for you, sir.

(signed the petition, btw)

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh hey we walked their pitcher who was pinch hitting

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jun 30, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jun 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice...

we finally pitch around haren!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

stuff

Boggs throwing.
LaRue getting snippy about the calls.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

nice catch

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip not tall enough.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

103 pitches for Suppan is

103 too many.

But then, I don’t run the roster. I’m not a Proven Veteran™

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Lol

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Jun 30, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow i can't believe that happened

after walking the pinch-hitting pitcher! shocker!

by LukeMP1186 on Jun 30, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Awesome for me!!!

I get to take a trip on Friday morning to the tractor assembly building to see the bulldozer that I’m designing stuff for… the building is huge and they literally build the tractors in huge pieces (Cab, Tracks, Frame) with a huge overhead crane

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

is it thursday yet?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Someone has to tell Milwaukee that we have to finish this game

before we start Friday’s game. There might be a slight delay.

by Ghostrider520 on Jun 30, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

tomorrow is an off day?

i haz a sad

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

tomorrow they play the brewers. WOLF vs. hawksworth.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

wolf and hawk.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh good!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

do that and he can be the 4th outfielder

"I've had pretty good success with Stan (Musial) by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine

by spfldbird on Jun 30, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

say bye bye to Shelby then

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah.

It won’t take Shelby to get Haren.

by Ghostrider520 on Jun 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

bye to Pujols then?

elaborate. he’s got a big contract right?

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop watching for a few weeks then

there will still be months of the season left

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I start to try and avoid watching, then we rip of two good wins...

and I’m like “Yeah, this is what I’ve been waiting for.” Then this crap happens. We just can’t get “there.”

by thewizard3 on Jun 30, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's very rational of you, Chitown ;-)

But seriously, for me anyway, it’s not that I expect us to win EVERY game, but rather I would like for this team to get on a roll. And when they play SEA, ARZ, etc. and win the 1st 2 games and just can’t finish a team off, it’s irritating. I mean, these guys could easily go on a tear – like 10 out of 12 or something – and yet they just seem so flat far too often.

And what irritates me isn’t the loss in the 3rd game of a series; it’s the appearance of not even trying. I mean, look at this pitcher today…is there any reason that we shouldn’t be able to hit him? Look at the lineups that TLR regularly trots out for the 3rd game of a series.

You can point to injuries now, but how many times this season has TLR inexplicably felt the need to rest Ludwick and/or Colby or play LaRue when trying for a sweep?

/end rant

by goodymobb on Jun 30, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, there's a distinct difference between expecting too much,

as in expecting them to win every game…and expecting them to complete one GD sweep of a three game series out of 7 chances, especially against a shit-tastic pitcher. I’m expecting the exact right amount…that is, expecting to win the games they SHOULD win that will come back and haunt them at the end of the season if they don’t

by mattyp on Jun 30, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

fixed

fuck this game the lack of sweeps

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about

fuck suppan, miles and winn? plus the recent roster management.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are the 4 below him?

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

LaRue has to stay but we can get rid of the other 4 for a combo of Craig, Mather, Greene, Jay, and pick your pitcher.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winn doesn't offer much to me

Am I just wrong with this? I don’t really know.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

He offers plus defense and somewhat below average offense

Jay might be the only one who could replicate that, but he’s left handed and if we are going to be spelling our LHH centerfielder, it would be best to do it against LHP with a RHH.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 30, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm just bitter about the homer that shouldn't have been

But I really think Jay > Winn. Winn can’t hit RHP IIRC

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit

I mean to say. I thought Winn couldn’t really hit against LHP. I’m all frustrated from the game.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why it's dumb...

Tony “electing to carry an extra pitcher” so you have the extra pitcher, but you are hesitant to PH for your middle reliever? I mean, you HAVE AN EXTRA PITCHER. There is another dude who can do the same thing!

PH for a guy who rarely takes any BP cuts and at least give yourself a shot. But yeah, you’ve gotta always “save” a guy.

So frustrating.

by goodymobb on Jun 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's kind of a catch-22

He’s got the extra pitcher, but if he PHs for Boggs, that’s one fewer guy left on the already-thin bench

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

one fewer guy

that he won’t use anyway, right?

by goodymobb on Jun 30, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

Gotta be prepared for a 20-inning game right

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

taking a shot

stav miles la rue suppan

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Dickson

is 8-4 with a 2.94 ERA for Memphis, although his WHIP is 1.33. Basically, he’s Ottavino with fewer strikeouts.

But they’d rather have Suppan.

What good is having a player development strategy if the manager wants his comfy blanket of Proven Veterans™?

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

when you have soup starting, it’s an automatic L. throw in a no-name starter, it’s a sure L.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This will be the eighth time

this season the Cardinals win the first two games of a series, and lose the third, if they lose again today.

I’m not talking about taking two of three, I’m saying they’ve done a W-W-L pattern eight times this year. That’s not random. That’s deliberate. And that’s LaRussa’s roster management and lineup decisions.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair,

i dont know how the lineup today could have been better (absent roster changes)

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

well considering TLR is heavily responsible for the roster changes...

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jun 30, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, definitely he can be partially blamed for that.

but as far as the lineups go…today’s isn’t one to be upset about.

although, they should put luddy on the DL retroactively to get through the weekend series

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

hitting .220 against rookies........

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Jason LaRue

is hitting .128. Hahahahaha, I know he never plays but… still.

by thewizard3 on Jun 30, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Right?

For as little as he ever plays, wouldn’t you still like to see Bryan Anderson in there on Yadi’s days off? I mean, at least he can handle the bat and pose a THREAT of possibly hitting the ball/driving in a run.

by goodymobb on Jun 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

but tony CAN'T have that...

he has his proven veterans ™ theory

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not the Hall of Fame Manager(TM)

but I’d replace LaRue with Bryan Anderson
Stavinoha with Allen Craig
Winn with Jon Jay
Miles with Tyler Greene
and find a space for Joe Mather.

My kinda team. Wait, that pretty much was the roster in April, wasn’t it?

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

why joe mather? i feel like he's getting unrelented love here

probably because he’s joey bombs but he wasn’t very good here and while in AAA he is doing well, im not going out of my way to put him on the roster…..

and Winn i’d still keep over Jon Jay

Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog

by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 30, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd probably also keep winn over jay

but i’d swap stav and miles for craig and greene

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

where are you now, rally pig.........

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Jun 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

what am i missing?

i watched it and i didnt see what you were referring to

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

me either.

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.

by TNTinCO on Jun 30, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love the look on that horse's face

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you have the sound on?

It sounds like a pig’s getting slaughtered when Anderson hits the ball

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

GOOD TIMES.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jun 30, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, that is hilarious

I didn’t hear that on the first one, so didn’t play the second link.

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.

by TNTinCO on Jun 30, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the radio call doesn't have that sound

it must be the tv version only

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok what is going on there?

because it sounds like it was deliberately edited in afterwards… is it fake?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it was live for 2, maybe 3 games,

and then the rally pig left us.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jun 30, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this in the glossary?

cause i have no idea what you are talking about

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's explained above, and it wasn't fake.

and yes, it is due for the glossary. it was almost stricken from the list from lack of use THANKS, CARDINALS TEAM.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it is not.

3 games in April, I think, the pig squeal was heard during the broadcast, we dubbed it the rally pig.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jun 30, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, maye he would/should

I mean, we all agree that Tony has been riding Yadi into the ground so far. So give him an extra day off and get Anderson some PT. And with the frequency of these effin’ throwaway games/white flag games, I think Anderson would get enough ABs to justify the move.

by goodymobb on Jun 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he would need at least 15PA a week to justify any call up.

do it a week before the allstar break and give yadi a 10 day vacation with some off the bench at bats.

I am the Batman .
@CodeeG

by CodyG on Jun 30, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmm boggs hitting.

batting practice!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

or maybe his beard is hitting.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's looking really Just for Men, today.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

the white flag was engaged

before today’s game even started.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair

We don’t have much of a bench at the moment.

That’s its own major problem, of course, but it’s the reason Boggs is hitting, most likely.

by mojowo11 on Jun 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and whose fault is that?

cough… larussa… cough

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly...

Carrying an extra pitcher means that you can replace one middle reliever with a pinch hitter and then bring in that 47th reliever or whatever. Because. He’s. The. Extra. Pitcher.

by goodymobb on Jun 30, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

zomg Booooooog.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope this game is another 20 inning debacle

What else am I gonna do for the next 12 hours before I go to bed

by leefyg on Jun 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

you can do this video conference meeting for me

with my boss here in 8 minutes

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

always

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

discouraged, even

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't show below the waist

And it’s summer anywho, it’s hot.

by leefyg on Jun 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooog.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Boog checks his nails.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the update

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOG!

has wheeeeeeeeeels!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

boogity

babip giveth... and babip taketh away

by purple_haze on Jun 30, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Does it help our moods any

knowing the Pirates are beating the Cubs, 2-0, top ninth?

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

not really

considering that the reds won and we’re playing some shitty baseball.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that made my boring afternoon better

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

zomg our middle infield is not sucking much!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Boog caught a stop sign, even.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

skippy!

has wheeeeeeeeeels!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

bahahahahaa. Skip's like, hey, Yadi can do it...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

gee, dan...

like i really wanted to know that neither side has had a 1-2-3

WHEN WE’RE DOWN BY 3 RUNS!!!!!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

he proved

he’s just as slow in the natti

by thewizard3 on Jun 30, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

WALKIES!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

lopex BB

bert eliminate???

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

wheeee

babip giveth... and babip taketh away

by purple_haze on Jun 30, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I know he's Latin

But can that be a tough, gritty, quality PA?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 30, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

nope

it has to be a smooth, latino PA.

babip giveth... and babip taketh away

by purple_haze on Jun 30, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shhh

You’ll only encourage LaRussa to find tough, gritty Latinos.

And we don’t need Miguel Cairo.

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

no pressure, Albert.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

how on earth is this game in the 6th?

I seriously thought that we were in the 8th or something

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Lopex apparently dove back into first base.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

That

Or Pujols can miss a grooved fastball.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 30, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

swung at ball 4, yeah?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

According to Gameday, yes.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jun 30, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

wheee

babip giveth... and babip taketh away

by purple_haze on Jun 30, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

swung at thaaaaaaaaaaat?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on Jun 30, 2010 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, too jumpy

The guy risked walking in the run, but Albert couldn’t hold up.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jun 30, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

[vowel sounds]

Pujols missed the tag.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

fuck can't even do a run down properly

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright...

I’m off to wash the dog.

And no, that’s not a metaphor for anything.

by goodymobb on Jun 30, 2010 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

boggsy!

now… offense, listen up: MOAR RUNZ!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

So who had?

95-98 mph reliever in the “What will Mitchell Boggs become” pool from 3 years ago?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 30, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

jorge sosa

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

pedro bourbon jr

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well he had... I just didn't think he had the mindset or control.

I think he’s been properly Carp’d, now.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I may be crazy

but i have always thought that if he could harness his control that he could be a closer

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's possible

perhaps even more than motte

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

the beard is pretty sinister as well

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

my triumphant return.

is this easier/more disappointing?

by clankbot on Jun 30, 2010 5:18 PM EDT reply actions  

he had the skull avatar.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

kidding! kidding

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

shall i change my name too?

I don't give a fuck who you confuse me with.

by chalk on Jun 30, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

crankbot it is, then

I don't give a fuck who you confuse me with.

by chalk on Jun 30, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahahhaa

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

walkapotamoose.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

but he plays one on tv

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

for the same reason that somehow the book on soriano doesn't include one sentence

slider low and away: repeat

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Jun 30, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Stav sits dead red fastball on every pitch he sees no matter the count. I mean I know SSS and how dependent the Pitch Value stuff is, but the wSL/C is -5.91 for sliders. My god.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 30, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

smoooooth steal.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

and now we get la rue

it would be cool if they hadn’t kept yadi in for the entire shutout yesterday so that maybe he could pinch hit and come in the game.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

is LaRue down to one tiger stripe?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

When the hell did LaRue clean up?

Clean cut? No facial hair? How could he ever be mistaken for a Metallica roadie looking like that? This development is profoundly disturbing.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jun 30, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby had a haircut, too.

but seriously, we may need a fanshot to properly vent our distress at his clean-cut-ness. it’s been several weeks since Lohse went at him with the trimmer and the gel.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you guys seriously want an actual date and time on this?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait.....

Colby got a haircut?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jun 30, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that was

the epic Colby-got-a-haircut May 3rd thread.

no guarantees on what went on in the concurrent game…..

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You missed it.....

Seattle!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jun 30, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've got it at

May 19

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw him from the front on the post-game last night

and thought, “who is this guy? I thought LaRue was #21. Oh, it is LaRue”

Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 30, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

took this when the cards were in LA

by FunkeeC on Jun 30, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT

So who saw Twilight at midnight?

by leefyg on Jun 30, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

twilight? really?

waste of time & money. that’s all i’m gonna say about that.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did. My fiancee made me. I was so wasted I slept through 3/4 of it

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Jun 30, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I added extra garlic to any food I've eaten for a few weeks in protest of that shit

I was forced to watch the first one, and if there has ever been a major produced movie with worse acting, I’d actually like to see it.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 30, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah, yeah

I was forced into seeing the first one because Casino Royale was “guns and boobs.” Exactly.

by leefyg on Jun 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just saw Wolverine the other day

I was disappointed with the acting, script, basically the whole movie

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm 30, Male and Straight

Halle Berry couldn’t drag me to that nonsense.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jun 30, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oughten it be "La Run"?

ba dum bum!

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jun 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

i forgot about last night’s lameme that labegan.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

COLBY'S SO FAST, THEY DON'T EVEN THROW.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

allegedly that's LaRue.

I think he’s Ottavino’s dad.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not?

You expect the All-Star Holliday™ to drive in a RISP?

by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's trademarked?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was the most unexciting run...

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

unexcited by colby?

i don’t recall…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap

Larue actually got a hit!

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

larue!

i was wrong, the average back up near .150

I don't give a fuck who you confuse me with.

by chalk on Jun 30, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

who out of these 5 should go to ASB

I know they probably won’t make it, but these are the top 5 outfielders in my mind, with help from fangraphs

Rasmus
Holliday
Willingham
Werth
Byrd

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm partial to Rasmus, Holliday, and Werth

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha! yes

well, if people were voting better, who would be the starters

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trever

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

trever time!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

..........KMac warming.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

I played Votto

Because you play Votto. That’s just what you do.

Votto has now homered off both Greinke and Halladay recently.

by mojowo11 on Jun 30, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Votto is awesome/carrying that team

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Rolen too of course

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hit a game-tying three-run homer with two outs in the bottom of the 9th off Lidge yesterday

He is having a season of near-Pujolsian proportions, right down to the Lidge-pwning.

by mojowo11 on Jun 30, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boooooooog.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

yawn.

longest game ever?

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 5:38 PM EDT reply actions  

My name is Brendan Ryan

and I neither can hit nor resist swinging at breaking pitches

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Jun 30, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

...

but i have great defense and can grow mustaches while spinning!

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, no.

he chases balls.
that’s his thing.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfortunately that's in both halves of an inning.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i was hoping

lopex could keep the streak going, but of course i had to figure that he’s going back on his two week 0-fer 1-fer streak before having a 4 for 5 game again.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

was that the first 1-2-3 inning? posted by a guy with an 8.33 era??

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Jun 30, 2010 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

shut down by qualls

*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 30, 2010 5:45 PM EDT reply actions  

cheese!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

fire being smooth in the outfield!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:49 PM EDT reply actions  

er..burning.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else shocked to learn that McClellan has a 3.84 xFIP

And a 1.06 WHIP? He’s having the best year of his career so far. Strikeout rate at a career high, walk rate at a career low.

I’m still terrified every time he comes in, though.

by mojowo11 on Jun 30, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

nope. he's on my fantasy team!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

atta Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooog.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:52 PM EDT reply actions  

they just did a LOBster count.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Miles comes out on deck

Hooray for our bench. Is Wainwright available?

by OCCardsFan on Jun 30, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm not sure if shannon

was just confusing him with stav or if it actually was miles

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
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by albrtfn on Jun 30, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

and now.... it's all up to stav.

blarg

I don't give a fuck who you confuse me with.

by chalk on Jun 30, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Stav's next

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Jun 30, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

is he nick stavinoha?

I don't give a fuck who you confuse me with.

by chalk on Jun 30, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what egregious means but

The managing this series month has been egregious.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jun 30, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

The managing this series month season has been egregious.

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
Hoping that the Cards trade for Cliff Lee!

by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I choose offensive.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Jun 30, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

PH with Miles is not offensive

it’s the antithesis of offensive

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jun 30, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do know what it means actually

I just wanted to appear like an ignoramoose

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jun 30, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good advice

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jun 30, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

so it was up to Stav... twice?

or was it up to Miles twice?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I have an idea.

Let’s option Miles, and Stav (or whatever we need to do to make them go away) and call up Craig and Greene. Whaddya think? genius?

Currently selling signature space. All offers considered.

by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 30, 2010 6:11 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

brilliant

but far too radical for Tony

by madridbend on Jun 30, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

but is it..... suuuuuper genius?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Not like either of them play better defensively than Miles and Stav or anything..

by leefyg on Jun 30, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Allen Craig does not suck, or at least hasn't been shown to suck yet

Keep in mind that Craig had a 28.6% line drive rate but only a .053 batting average when he was up. He hit a lot of balls right at people.

And Tyler Greene maybe sucks, but sucks less than Miles, is useful in the field and on the bases, and even has occasional power.

by mojowo11 on Jun 30, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he was being sarcastic

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Jun 30, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing you are looking for is

DFA!!!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Jun 30, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your ideas intrigue me

And I wish to subscribe to your newsletter

by Merry CRasmus on Jun 30, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

call up jay & greene

get rid of miles & stav

Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Jeff Passan is an asshat
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by zoomzoomj88 on Jun 30, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am somewhat morbidly interested in seeing the plays of the month for June.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

we look kind of awesome in montage

Colby gets his own section in the home runs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ludwick gets his own section, period.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi and Adam, complete with handshake!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yes, the rookies got their own cup of coffee.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many of these third games have been day games...?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

the 9th longest game in Cardinals history

since they started keeping time stats in the 80s.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions  

it's by time, so I assume so.

/tvstats

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

even with the two 15+ innings games in the last year, that's just 2 out of the 9.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Four Hour Waste of Time

Now now Red Baron…..La Genius is gonna reprimand you for “disrespecting the competition”. According to him, every pitcher that has taken the mound against the Cardinals this season is the second coming of Cy Young himself.

The shots of the young tanned girl were the MOST entertaining moments of this otherwise completely forgettable affair. Hats off to the boys in the truck!

by Vinegar Bend on Jun 30, 2010 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

good evening, all

please, PLEASE tell me that wasn’t nick stavinoha and aaron miles that batted with two on in the ninth winning with a chance to tie and win the game. please tell me i didn’t actually witness that.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

where, i'm sitting

my TV reflects off my window really well and i often have moments where i look and go holy crap thinking that matt garza is standing outside my window

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

sigh.

I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?

by The Continental on Jun 30, 2010 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I really hope the Cardinals finish the season 2-3 games out.

And La Russa gets fired.

Stupid shit like his demand of having “his guys” on the team leads to shit like Randy Winn and Aaron Miles getting 86 PAs and Jeff Suppan throwing 14 piss-poor innings when there are unproven commodities with MLE’s just as good as the crap we’ve been throwing out; if you’re telling me that Allen Craig, Joe Mather, et al. couldn’t blow Winn out the water, and Delcalso, Gotay, or Greene couldn’t run circles around Miles?

by craig3410 on Jun 30, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

i hope the cardinals make the playoffs

but i kind of hope TLR moves on also

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair...
Jeff Suppan throwing 14 piss-poor innings

suppan has been more than adequate in his temporary #5 starter role.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ehhhhhhhh

I’d say adequate at best. His ERA is beating his FIP and xFIP, but neither of those numbers have been great. Ottavino probably could have done just as well.

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Touche

Of course we are talking about < 20 IP sample sizes for both of them (not considering Soup’s numbers with MIL this year). I didn’t expect Ott’s advanced numbers to be so bad (even in < 20 IP).

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that was going to be my next argument

we only need soup to be serviceable over a small sample size (hypothetically). so far, he has done that.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Soup's gonna stick to the end of the season

Even if Penny returns

Like it or not, we’re stuck with him

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

sssssssshhhhhhhh

even though he’s probably better than lohse, ottavino, hawksworth, etc so i can’t complain too much. and it’s not like he’ll make the playoff rotation. or the roster. hopefully penny comes back though, just realized it’s been almost six weeks. i’d rather not live with hawksworth starting the rest of the year.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

soup is better than lohse?

how do you figure that?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 1, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

ERA.... that's about it though

im not agreeing with him, just that he probably glanced at his ERA and thought it…. but yeah there is no way soup is better than lohse

Rasmus can hit lefties
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by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 2, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have to say

soup has probably given us about what i expected, probably even a little more, and so for the immediate emergency situation we were in i’ve been kind of fine with him. but i’d much rather have lohse in the rotation. seems a miracle if he could actually come back this year, but those seem to be the indications from the club.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Jul 2, 2010 5:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm gonna wait

until he has at least one bad outing before i resume bashing him

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jun 30, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we can't score more than 4 runs off a AA pitcher,

then we can hardly hold Soup to blame for this loss.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 30, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 2/3 innings with 4 runs allowed?

i think that’s wildly better than most people would have hoped for and as good as or better than what we’re likely to get from ottavino or walters

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jul 1, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

My god how many times does it need to be said

RANDY WINN IS NOT BAD. Bitch about Miles, bitch about Stav, but none of Mather, Craig, Jay or whoever you’d like to choose are going to be expected to be better than Winn. He’s below-average offense with a plus glove.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Jun 30, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree--the defensible one is most definitely winn

at least he’s good at something. he’s even been serviceable with the bat as well. miles and stav, on the other hand, aren’t good at anything besides taking up space and frustrating fans.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

A few things:

1. Uhhh, you do realize that Randy Winn has actually been a good pickup, right? Fluky homerun aside, he has a track record as being a very good (at least above-average) defender, his statline is pretty above-average for a bench outfielder. I mean, we would all love Allen Craig or John Jay to get some starts, but he doesn’t have Aaron Miles-like incompetence.

2. Jeff Suppan has pitched 3.95 ERA ball out of the 5 spot. How about you reserve your judgement until he actually sucks? Most 5 starters aren’t pitching near as well as Suppan.

3. And no, Craig and Mather wouldn’t blow Winn out of the water. Winn is what he is, a plus defensive outfielder with little offense game. Craig, while unlucky, is not a great defender, and we really don’t know if he achieve a .333 OBP like Winn has even with the peripherals saying otherwise.

And keep dreaming about LaRussa getting fired for the record.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jun 30, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, now that I look at it, Winn's not been terrible.

Thought he was hitting worse than he was.

It’s just INCREDIBLY frustrating to see minor leaguers not get chances to show what they can do in favor of guys that are terrible solely because they played for Tony 5 years ago, and losing games because of it.

by craig3410 on Jun 30, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well.

In Suppan’s case, the minor leaguers have been really bad this year, as Ottavino has no control and Hawksworth is, well, Hawksworth. They are going for it this year, and while playing Ottavino would be good in the future, the FO believed that Suppan could contribute now, which is in their philisophy.

It sucks, but whatever. Least the team is competing for something. I think that if they didn’t have a team breathing on their neck, they would become complacent, and suck like they did against the Dodgers.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jun 30, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't care how pissed i am at the cardinals or their FO

i will never EVER root for them to not make the playoffs…. that’s just me

Rasmus can hit lefties
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St. Louis Sports blog

by stlcardsfan4 on Jul 1, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Molina Update

Bengie to Texas, traded for Chris Ray

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

Adam Wainwright reaches on force attempt, throwing error by Aaron Heilman. Jaime Garcia scores. Brendan Ryan to 3rd. Adam Wainwright to 2nd. None out.

by TBender on Jun 30, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Thouroughly "meh" trade.

At least it means the Giants quit jerking Posey around.

by craig3410 on Jun 30, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, at least there were a lot of Molina v. Molinas.

let’s hope Bengie doesn’t catch the yips.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Jun 30, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might not need it

Pointless to put him on the 15-day DL when he’ll only be out 6 or 7

by craig3410 on Jun 30, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been out for 7 games

If it was a 15 day injury or close, the Cardinals would have DL’ed him, but their inaction makes me believe that he will come back in 2-3 days, maybe tomorrow. I don’t think they are that incompetent. :)

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jun 30, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i sure hope not

as i mentioned below, it’s just frustrating. this has happened before with other players in other years, and it’s one of the most frustrating things to watch.

however, i’ll give the cardinals the benefit of the doubt for now. hopefully he’s back for the weekend, the lineup misses him.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess

They didn’t think the injury was that bad at first, but Ludwick wasn’t healing, and figured out it was more serious.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jun 30, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

then they should have DL'd him the second they realized that

just pisses me off that we’re essentially wasting a roster spot on a roster that already sports stavinoha and miles playing in bench roles. i mean, nick stavinoha has started two consecutive games in right field. that’s inexcusable.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That depends.

What if they believed the injury would take 2 days, but they found out it would take 5 more days on top of that. Would you still DL him and waste 8 days of production? I sure as hell wouldn’t. You said it yourself, the less Nick Stavinoha in right field, the better.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jun 30, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

By the way.

For people who commonly look up stats. I have a question, for people like Suppan who transfer to another team mid-season, where would you look up seperate stats? Fangraphs only does stats for both teams combined, and I can’t find anything useful for some reason on Baseball Reference.

Any help is appreciated.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Jun 30, 2010 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

+1,000

i don’t give a shit about what he did for the brewers, but am having trouble finding his numbers with just the cards.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball Musings's Day by Day Database has a useful filter.

I seem to remember Fangraphs dividing the season between the teams last year. Am I wrong on this?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Jun 30, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

or you can go to B-R

go to game logs, the click the row where you want to start looking at stats and then click the row where you want to end and it’ll sum everything between

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Jul 1, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

Barry F. Enright. 14 lobsters. Stav-Miles grit their way to the final two outs. This is reminiscent of the agony of 2006.

Fire La Russa!

by guayzimi on Jun 30, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

So, All-Star voting is winding down.

I put my 25 votes in, and tried to avoid blatant homerism, and giving the NL the best chance to win. That led to me not necessarily voting for the best choice at some positions.

C – Brian McCann. I love me some Yadi, but the dude just isn’t hitting well enough to justify a spot this year. Plus, he needs more games off, not…more games to squat in.

1B- Albert. Duh. Votto may well be having a better season so far this year, but it’s…Albert Pujols.

2B – Chase Utley. This one really isn’t close.

SS – Hanley Ramirez. Don’t like the guy, but probably deserves the spot.

3B – David Wright. To be honest, I’d rather vote for Rolen or Zimmerman here, but Wright is the only person with any chance to overtake the horrible Placido selection, so he gets my vote.

OF – Holliday, Rasmus, Ludwick. What? Don’t look at me like that, I’m a Cards fan, and I love our outfield. Plus, you can actually make the argument for all three of them when accounting for defense as well.

I couldn’t bring myself to vote for a terrible AL squad, despite my obvious desire to see the NL win. With no real preamble, I went with

C Mauer
1B Morneau
2B Cano
SS Jeter
3B Beltre
OF Hamilton, Crawford, Rios

Is it just me, or does the AL lineup as a whole look a little bit better?

by Voxx on Jun 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn

Yadi has the 33rd best OPS among (all) catchers in the NL…he’s 2nd to last among catchers with at least 150 PAs

by jd is legend on Jun 30, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yikes

so two backups are hitting better than yadi.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 30, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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