The Late Bloomer Show
My first thought on last night's game: only Tony La Russa could have managed to somehow have the pitcher batting cleanup in a game with the designated hitter.
My second thought: Jaime Garcia is awesome.
Third thought: Matt Holliday is pretty awesome, too.
Fourth thought: what the hell happened to Jose Bautista?
And that's where I want to kick off the post proper this morning: with the inexplicable outburst of ridiculousness we've seen from Jose Bautista, who is leading all of baseball in dingers after years of toiling in baseball purgatory. (You may know it as Pittsburgh.)
It would be tough to find anyone who actually predicted this breakout season for Bautista. And by tough, of course, I mean impossible. This is the same Jose Bautista, after all, who posted an OPS+ of 89 from 2004-08, and the same Jose Bautista whose career high in home runs came in 2006, his age 25 season, when he hit 16 homers in 469 trips to the plate.
It's entirely possible this is just an extreme outlier season; possible we'll all look back a couple years down the line and say, "Hey, you remember when Jose Bautista hit like 40 homers that one year, and we all thought he was going to take off and be a top slugger? Man, that was weird, wasn't it? Oh, well, at least it wasn't us who gave him that contract for six years and eighty million." Then we'll laugh on in to the night at Bautista's 2011 and '12 campaigns, when he hit a total of 28 homers and assured himself a spot in the Toronto Blue Jays Hall of Bad Contracts, right next to Vernon Wells and Alex Rios and B.J. Ryan.
Or, on the other hand, Bautista could also serve as a cautionary tale about giving up on a player too early, the same way Ryan Ludwick and Jayson Werth do.
The story isn't the same with all three, of course; both Ludwick and Werth suffered mainly from injury issues early in their careers, and as a result were never able to garner the kind of consistent playing time that leads to star careers. Bautista just wasn't very good, and now suddenly he sort of is. Werth was drafted out of high school in 1997, made his MLB debut in 2002 (with Toronto, no less), and posted an .825 OPS in his first extended look in the big leagues in 2004 with the Dodgers. He dropped off to a .711 the next season, then missed all of 2006 due to injury. The Phillies picked him up off the scrap heap, and the rest is, as they say, history.
Ludwick's trials and tribulations in getting to the majors have been well chronicled by now, and with good reason. It's an impressive story, with lots of adversity and talent and a cameo appearance not once but twice by Juan Gonzalez. The short version is this: extremely talented player drafted out of UNLV in '99, got hurt a little, made his debut in 2002 (interesting, no?), then got hurt. A bunch. Got hurt and hurt and hurt, bouncing around and losing his job to Juan Gonzalez. Picked up by the Cards a couple years ago, called up to bolster a Calista Flockhart thin outfield, fought off another challenge from Juan Gone, and the rest is, as they say, history.
note: I realise Calista Flockhart is only mildly topical, and only because she just married Indiana Jones, but I have good reason for such a reach. The original version of that was with Karen Carpenter instead, but my better nature prevailed and I chose to back away.
I can't quite decide if Ben Zobrist fits into this category or not; he was drafted late by the 'Stros (he was already 23), then got traded along with Mitch Talbot for Aubrey Huff in '06. He looked like a utility infielder, then just exploded with the bat. He was one of the most valuable players in baseball last year, and so certainly seems at home with Luddy and Werth, but he didn't really knock around the hinterlands nearly as long as these other guys.
Chris Carpenter certainly fits; he's another injury case, but also a case of a player whose performance never matched his talent until he grew up and learned his trade a bit more. I wonder if if part of the common thread here might be these players all took off when they got into another organisation.
There's Josh Hamilton, of course, whose story is really on a completely different level than virtually anyone else you can think of, but definitely fits into this demographic.
Half the closers in baseball end up being these guys; failed starters who find their niche throwing just their best stuff for 15-20 pitches at a time. Eric Gagne was awful in the rotation, then had perhaps the greatest season ever by a reliever in 2003.
So is this power explosion from Bautista real? I have no idea, to be honest. His batting average is almost exactly in line with the rest of his career (.239 career BA before this season; .232 this year), his walk rate is up quite a bit, but that's likely a result of the fact he's hitting the ball over the wall at a frightening rate. He's actually striking out a bit more often than in the past; he's basically turning himself into a three-true-outcomes hitter. Such players can be very productive, of course, particularly if that offensive profile doesn't come with Adam Dunn's fielding issues. (And for the record, Bautista is a little below average but not bad in the outfield and probably shouldn't be playing third base. Just in case you were wondering.) There's anecdote/narrative support for his newfound power, of course, as there always seems to be, but only time will tell if this is the Jose Bautista we're going to see from now on.
Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be much in the way of identifying characteristics here, no way of really telling what players might just be waiting for their chance to shine and which really do belong on the scrap heap. Joe Mather looked like a classic late bloomer just two years ago; now just a couple seasons and a whole mess of wrist trouble later he's an afterthought once again.
So, any players you guys think could end up big-time deals off the heap in the next few years? I still like Jeremy Sowers for some bizarre reason; I just wish he would return my calls once in a while.
Anyhow, that's all I've got this morning; it's just too damned hot to think of more than one thing to write about.
The Baron's Playlist for the 23rd of June, 2010 -- With Apologies to Bryan Adams and Don Henley
"Summer Wind" - Frank Sinatra
"It's Summertime" - The Flaming Lips
"Summertime" - Sam Cooke
"All Summer Long" - the Beach Boys
"Summer Snow" - Snow Machine
"Summer Babe" - Pavement
"Summertime" - Girls
"Summer Dress 2" - +/-
"Summer's Over" - Rialto
"Summer Shakedown" - Slow Club
"Summer of Hate" - Crocodiles
"Oslo in the Summertime" - Of Montreal
"Summer Teeth" - Wilco
"Summer's Cauldron" - XTC
"Summertime Clothes" - Animal Collective
"Jogging Gorgeous Summer" - Islands
"Knives of Summertime" - Sparklehorse
"Summer Grof" - the Spinto Band
"Hands Down" - Dashboard Confessional (Okay, so it doesn't really fit, but I don't care. Listen and tell me it doesn't belong here. I don't think you can.)
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i think he probably respects cito gaston
tony might only make those moves to diss a manager he doesn’t care for, like “look what i can do and you would get fired for”
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Or, in a nod to Billy Martin's Yankees shenanigans
he starts Adam Wainwright as DH.
Then moves Wainwright to left field, meaning he loses the DH for the rest of the game, but enabling those double-switches he so loves.
All before the fifth inning.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 23, 2010 10:49 AM EDT reply actions
Oh, come on!
I thought of eighteen actually good songs with summer in the title without even looking at my itunes library! That has to count for something!
That is a good one, though, and probably worth an add.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I take that back.
I don’t think I like that song as much as I thought I did.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
fair enough
what you did was quite an impressive feat, and I probably like that song’s association with Rushmore more than I like the song itself.
Me too.
It was brilliant in that movie, and not so good everywhere else.
A Summer Song is the musical equivalent of Owen Wilson: only good with Wes Anderson.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Heh.
Actually, that one was just my fault. I posted before I had the whole thing I wanted to say down.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I tried
to send a response to this that got lost. Anyhow, one of my favourites, please supply name of group (memory fail) is hot town, summer in the city….It is not an R&B groups, but early rock group. Another, but nothing to do with summer, was the summer of 68 when I was working suckering tobacco, the hit was working in a coal mine,….which was definitely R&B. Can’t remember if that was Clarence Carter (of Patches fame) or whom.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The Lovin' Spoonful.
And not one of my faves, but lots of people love it.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Also the band behind other hits such as
“Do You Believe in Magic?” and “Daydream”.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
Madridbend called it. Who was in the Lovin’ Spoonful? Zal Yanofsky, good old Toronto boy. He left the band, recorded a demented album (so they say), then ran a restaurant in Kingston, Ontario, proud home of 5 penitentiaries. Sadly he died in 2002. In my mind, a true 60’s-70’s Canadian rock icon, along with other guys like David Clayton Thomas of Blood Sweat and Tears, and all of the other bands like Guess Who and so on.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not
to mention Leonard Cohen, as iconoclastic as can get, the Canadian Dylan?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
he's the man
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
workin' in the coalmine
was by Lee Dorsey (written by Allen Toussaint). There was a version by Devo in the 80’s.
youneverknow
I recognize
the Allen Toussaint name. But apparently never in a group. The fact that he penned Sneakin’ Sally through the Alley for Robert Palmer wins me over completely. He also did Lady Marmalade. I will have to get the Devo version, still remember Are we not Men?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, pretty big name down here in the easy
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Everyone should check him out.
Allen Toussaint is one of the all-time greats up there with Stevie Wonder imo. /heresy
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jun 23, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
working in a coal mine
I think that was Lee Dorsey and it was an Allen Toussaint song, if he didn’t write it , he arranged it for Dorsey
"How can a Mexican lose the ball in the sun" ? Harry Caray
by bigchieftootiemontana on Jun 23, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Summer in the City? Loving Spoonful?
Hot town – summer in the city
Back of my neck getting dirty and gritty
Cool cat looking for a kitty
Gonna look in every corner of the city
Hate that song.
Also don’t like Summer Breeze. I might consider the Type O Negative cover from the Scream 2 soundtrack, but not the original. Blech.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Mixed
view on Summer Breeze. It is pretty syrupy, but evocative of a certain time period. In the end, I guess I didn’t mind the lyrics, and liked their harmonizing. Oh well.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I Like that Summer Breeze has a toy piano on it
I like the song ok, but am older than dirt, so there you have it.
youneverknow
Post fail
my dirt is probably older. Anyhow, like we do, I associate that song with a certain road trip, so it is not so much the about the music as the memories. And not such great memories, but I still have the album.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you thinking of I Know What You Did Last Summer?
I don’t think it was in Scream 2.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly.
I have the album somewhere, but haven’t bothered digging it out to look. You might be right. I know Scream 2 had the great Less Than Jake cover of “I Think I Love You”, but I could be wrong on Summer Breeze.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
good call
but do you go Eddie Cochran, Blue Cheer, or Who? (just noticed that Ceech Marin and The Beach Boys have versions too!)
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Jun 23, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Eddie Cochran the original?
I’d just go with that for historical purposes.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I knew the Beach Boys had done it
but I was unaware just how many people had covered it.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yep, Eddie Cochran did the original
I’m kinda partial to the Who’s version, but agree to have to give props to Eddie for writing the song.
youneverknow
by floodOfLove on Jun 23, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
the song, but can’t remember the version that I have heard. I guess Eddie, but I would sure like to hear the Blue Cheer version, and the Who one, which somehow I just don’t recall.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard the Who's versions for probably 35 years
Finally heard Eddie Cochran’s the other day and finally understood why the kid couldn’t get the car that night
ok this was a joke.
but what about Summertime – Billie Holiday
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i do like that sublime version a lot
but thought maybe that wasn’t baron’s style
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
(Doin' Time)
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
Not the correct name of the song.
Totally thought of that one, though.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't want to start a new thread, so I'll just say it here. Pavement is the perfect summer band.
Also that is a great list of songs and an even more impressive memory.
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Jun 23, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
um
summer crane – avanlanches
summertime – coltrane
long summer day – two gallants
summer – mogwai
summer goth 2 – wavves
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Got the Avalanches song,
but I don’t really like that one. If I want a summer song off Since I Left You it has to be the title track. Summeriest thing evereverever.
Good call on the Coltraneand Mogwai tracks; those I did not remember.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously, USA.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
blue balls.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Algeria could pull their goalie and the U.S. still couldn't score.
by Ghostrider520 on Jun 23, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I've lost count.
I’m now assuming the shot will not go in, or will be disallowed.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
they can't even get the other team to do an own-goal.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Dempsey's bleeding.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
ain't no card?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
another mysterious call
handball that isn’t
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Late bloomers
before testing was semi-serious and semi-accurate, there were a lot of late bloomers.
a few years ago, i would have suspected that of Bautista, but maybe he’s just a guy who is fortunate to play in a bandbox and has hit a run of good luck.
FINALLY
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
TWSS
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
SCORE!!!!!!
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 23, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
that happened ages ago
i was only watching the game then. Only came on here after full time.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 23, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Just sayin'
As an Englishman, you should probably have been hoping for a draw between US-Algeria (which would allow England an easier path to the final)
blarg
After that terrible "pass" in front of the net, I'm glad USA redeemed themselves.
Regression, bitches.
True.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The ball. It went into the net.
Whoa.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jun 23, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
I figured they'd declare Donovan's fauxhawk illegal or something.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jun 23, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Or one of the other guys. I dunno who's who.
I'm out of champagna. How about some 7-Up and Mad Dog 20/20?
by The Continental on Jun 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be okay with that.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I am not
watching. If they win, do they go to the final 16?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
they won, and yes
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
We have a MUCH MUCH MUCH easier road to the Finals now, too
If Germany wins, we get Serbia/Ghana, Uruguay, and South Korea
If we got 2nd in the pool, we would’ve gotten Germany, Argentina, and Mexica
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Uruguay's been good, sure
I’d still rather face them than Germany or Argentina
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
this is a question for guayzimi
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Wow
traveling around, with sporadic connections, I totally missed this. I saw the draws and thought that they weren’t making it.great, I will now cheer for USA!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well done guys
bit of a nailbiter for england too. It would’ve been a travesty if you hadn’t gone through given how u dominated against ALgeria and got robbed vs Slovenia.
Two teams I wanted through, going through. Nice.
Still bitching to contact.
Not sure the USA deserved it, but
it would have been a travesty for Slovenia to go forward on that phantom disallowed goal.
USA deserved it for sure
you hit the post what, twice today? And that goal that was disallowed for offside today (a bit like England’s today, but more so) was VERY close. And you “beat” Slovenia. I think the best two teams went through.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 23, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
having watched the highlights usa totally dominated though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 23, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
we didn't lose a match - how is that not deserving?
and it’s not like we benefited from some bogus calls.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this commentary is hilarious
man stew time
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yep. Better goal differential than England, I believe.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Same differential, but more goals.
That was so amazing.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHA
oh my God do you look SUCH an idiot right now. I dunno how you’ll live that one down. I guess you’re going to have to get a new user ID or something now.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 23, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
did the usa win the group?
the graphic on fespn showed england the winner, usa runner-up.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
USA wins the group
ESPN know nuuuuu-thing.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
First time in 80 years
that they’ve won their group.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Also the first time the U.S. has scored a goal in the third game in group play.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 23, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And I think it's the first time since 1930 that didn't lose a game in group play,
although I’m not completely sure about that.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I'll have to move to a different city in case some VEB-ites track me down
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
GOOOAAALLLL
Better late than never, right?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
FYI the Germans are behind the announcers filming the match.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
then they get to talk to Jeremy Schaap
poor guys.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
now everyone plays with wee Landon
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 23, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
HEH....
Wife left him for an alternate on the US Curling team.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Never saw these before
Guess I need to read more Teh Onion. Here’s Albert’s.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 23, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
So I guess we could conceivably be playing any of the teams in Group D
depending on how this afternoon’s games shake out. Serbia seems like the most likely though (assuming they beat Australia and Germany beats Ghana, and Germany still leads on goal differential).
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT reply actions
wouldn't surprise me if ghana might nick a draw or something off germany
but serbia looks like a good possibility.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 23, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
don't forget
that the pitcher batting 4th with a DH in the lineup came after some CHEESE
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
longest match ever at Wimbledon, it seems.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
29 all in the 5th - incredible
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and the match i was watching just ended 3 sets to 2, 16-14 in the fifth.
weird day at wimbledon
blarg
And they're _still_ playing!
It’s now 39-38. Apparently it’s gone past 7 hours.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
May I make a confession?
given the choice, I’d rather watch this tennis match than any WC game. (There, am I weird?)
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean, some people prefer tennis to soccer. That's fine.
But the quality of tennis in this match isn’t great, and we just watched the US score the latest goal in WC history, to win the group for the first time since 1930
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Oh, I'm happy enough for the US team
I’ve just never, ever been able to get into soccer. I don’t have a problem, really, with all the hype. This IS the World Cup, after all. I just think it a bit weird, sometimes, that I kind of, secretly, like tennis more than one would think someone who never played it would.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
No shame there. Tennis is a beautiful sport. Played it all throughout high school
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
nothing wrong with tennis
love the mano a mano. remember last year’s wimby final, with fed and roddick?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
maybe they get tea breaks, like cricket
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Every two games
And it’s not THAT tiring when you’re just acing the other guy 70% of the time
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
all they do is serve anyway
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i wonder if they are in cahoots, got some freaky bet down in vegas
tennis is funny like that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
brilliant list.
the only additions I can quickly recall:
“A Summer Wasting” – Belle & Sebastian
“Summer Days” – Bob Dylan
Crap.
Summer Wasting I totally wish I had remembered. Summer Days is just okay. Not one of my favourite Dylans, and I might have left it off even if I had thought of it. The B&S one I’m kicking myself for though.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That's probably true.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on Jun 23, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The ladies all agree!!!
It’s so weird seeing my name that many times. Thanks for the compliment though!
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
by Dttl89 on Jun 23, 2010 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
eric gagne
Hmm, how ever did he have one of the greatest seasons by a reliever ever? Hard work and perseverance after struggling for years as a starter?
Oh, no, steroids.
Sorry, it may be unfair, but anytime a guy goes from a 10 homer average to 40 the mind instantly goes to steroids. Sorry jose, but that’s the way it goes.
Jose fits in a class of brady anderson and gary matthews jr…not ludwick and werth.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
according to baseball
It doesn’t have to be proved. Mark McGwire never tested positive for a substance banned by MLB during his playing days but that didn’t stop him from being blackballed by the Hall.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
there wasn't any testing, was there?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yes, he admitted to taking performance enhancers
If you read any of his interviews he never states what we took and everyone and their mother knew he was taking Andro, but it wasn’t a substance banned by the league at the time.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he has admitted to taking steriods
he didn’t give names but:
McGwire did not name specific drugs that he took.
“The names I don’t remember, but I did injectables,” McGwire told Costas. “I preferred the orals. The steroids I took were on a very low dosage.”
i like that im a troll
Because my opinion differs from yours.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and the writer of this post
Compared jose bautista to eric gagne, not me. Whether intentional or not, its funny that he is compared to a guy who admitted he was only good while on the juice.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
sounds like you defend mac but knock gagne for the same thing
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
not at all
I defend all the guys from the steroid era who did everything they could to get a leg up on their competition, because hey, if its the difference between making a mil a year and 10 mil a year and you know the mlb league office doesn’t care, why wouldn’t you?
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not at all
I defend all the guys from the steroid era who did everything they could to get a leg up on their competition, because hey, if its the difference between making a mil a year and 10 mil a year and you know the mlb league office doesn’t care, why wouldn’t you?
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
ach, double post!
Sorry. Can’t delete the extra one from my blackberry. Dumb POST button.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm not going to judge whether they should have or not
but there are consequences.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i agree
Sadly for players in the late 90s, MLB did not tell them what those consequences were.
That would be like your parents never setting a rule for how late you can watch tv, so you spend 5 years staying up til midnight watching tv and then all the sudden one night your father walks in a paddles the hell out of your backside and says you never shouldve been watching tv past 10pm.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i think it's more like your parents setting a rule
but never enforcing it until the one night your father walks in.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i can go with that
So long as we add that you have the tv blaring and you know your father can hear it every night yet waits 5 years to walk in and then proceeds to punish you for all those nights.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
haha, yeah, guess i agree with that description
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that would be tough to do with testing
how does he beat it?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
This assumes that players aren't using substances for which a test has not yet been developed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
BALCO
Sure, Victor Conte is a provocateur, but I think there is some truth to him basically mocking the testing for PEDs because the drugs will always be a step ahead of the testing.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
hasn't testing learned and made great strides though?
i think they’ve closed the gap in time. if a player is doing something that can’t be detected today, isn’t there a good chance it will be detectable within a year, or less?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Assuming it is still in the player's system, which is a big assumption.
This is why some have called for MLB to preserve samples for future testing. I believe they do this in cycling. Basically, the theory goes that the way to stay ahead of PED development is to preserve samples so that, when a test is developed, they can test old samples. I think the FBI may have seized some old MLB samples in a raid. Does anyone remember if this is true?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
huh, i would have thought that mlb already preserved samples
why wouldn’t they – is there player’s union opposition?
i know the fbi seized balco samples, but i thought they only seized testing results from mlb? although there could have been samples – i know mlb was supposed to destroy something per confidentiality agreement, but unsure if it was the results, samples, or both.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I wouldn't be okay with it, if I were an employee.
I wouldn’t trust that there were procedural safeguards to prevent contamination and ensure that the samples belonged to the person to whom gave it, especially if my reputation hinged on it.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think this is related
to the 100 player list, in which the MLBPA agreed to random, unnamed testing, and then never verified that the samples were destroyed as per the agreement. Then the FBI got them. I found this, seems it’s all related to Bonds / BALCO prosecution.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
they recently seized a lot of stuff from Galea
The doc who treated arod after hip surgery. But he seems more connected to the nfl than anything else.
by lopey986 on Jun 23, 2010 1:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and tiger woods
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Also sadly
This is my first thought when the topic of Bautista comes up. How can it not after the last decade? I hope not because he’s another awesome story. I saw him play many a time in steel town and he never had that kind of power. Good for him though, I hope he’s legit and I hope he keeps it up. (although not against StL)
But you can’t fault anyone these days for making that ugly assumption on an extreme outlier.
thanks for reminding me of that great XTC song...
… from a great album “Skylarking”. Thanks a little bit less for reminding me of “Summer Wind” by Frank (mixed memories of playing in a Wedding Band in the late 90’s).
youneverknow
It seems that the real Matt Holliday is standing up.
2009 wOBA: .390
2010 wOBA: .390
Career wOBA: .399
2009 OPS: .909
2010 OPS: .891
Career OPS: .930
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
along that line
Do you think the Matt Holliday we have seen thus far this year is the one that we gave a massive contract?
Are you ok with his level of production per dollar spent this season?
Just curious…
if he hits close to his career numbers for the first few seasons
then I am okay with it. Because that is what the front office valued his contract at. It’s not like the expected him to hit well above his career numbers when they signed him.
yeah, i suppose they bought this matt holliday
he’ll probably have a typical year, around his career averages – i just don’t think that rates his contract, especially in terms of length. five years would have been ok, even though i don’t think he’ll be quite the same player in five years. seven years is something i thought only the yankees did.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you'll be better off if you just accept that
if he hits his career numbers, that justifies the contract because that’s what the FO paid him to do.
Otherwise it’s going to be a rough 7 years.
actually, and maybe i'm wrong
but if he hits his career numbers for the first few years of the contract, aren’t we underpaying him for that performance? so in theory, it evens out over the years?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Yeah, we'd be underpaying
And if his presence brings a higher probability of making the playoffs (which Steve Sommer, I believed, proved that he did, at least last year), then it’s been show that playoff appearances are worth an average of an extra $20 million in revenue
And that doesn’t even count for the externality that his presence might convince Albert to sign her long term
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
exactly. so this is why his contract did not bother me. i remember now.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i don't think that albert signing is contingent on holliday at all, per se
because signing werth or crawford or any other good player as a commitment to win would have the same effect.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
its not holliday specifically
but the fact that the cards signed a very good player long-term.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Yes.
If he gives us 5-WAR seasons, we are underpaying him, according to my abuse of Fangraphs’s valuations. My hope is for five 5-WAR seasons out of the contract, but I don’t have my hopes up for that.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i think this is possible, actually.
he’s only 30. so you’re hoping he puts up 5-WAR years through age 34. edmonds did that.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Right.
The contract isn’t that bad. Just pray that he is not injured. Scott Rolen was 29 in 2004, and was coming off of four seasons of 6.1, 7.3, 6.7, and 8.8 WAR. He was a surefire bet for a few more 6+ WAR season and a few more above 5 WAR as well. Then, he suffered a shoulder injury in 2005. He was a 5.5-WAR player in ‘06, but hasn’t been above 4.0 WAR in any other year since 2004’s MV3 season. Of course, this year Rolen is on pace to re-visit his pre-shoulder injury production levels, but that doesn’t change the cautionary nature of long-term mega deals.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
true, but i feel better about a long term deal fro holliday
more than most any other player. mainly just because he is a fitness freak. because of that he’s less of an injury risk and more likely to sustain production later into his career
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I agree.
Holliday has a higher level of fitness than almost any other long-term contract recipient, but that doesn’t eliminate the freak injury possibility, like the Cintron and Choi incidents with Rolen.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Albert is pretty fit
or at least his cover on Muscle & Fitness awhile back led me to believe…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
yeah? well where is HIS cover of Muscle & Fitness?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
just getting ready to post that...
Albert’s tricep keeps staring at me, however
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
M & F
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
nothing beats the other AP's cover though...

holy shoulders, Freese
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I thought he was fast and strong on TV
and then I saw him play live…wow
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
you doubt the maching's triceps?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
It's a magazine cover
They probably blew his arms up to 5 times their normal size and made them extra shiny.
I don't think it was that photoshopped.
They definitely greased him up, though.

Regression, bitches.
yeah, they just got him after a workout, all pumped
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Someone far smarter than I could do the calculation
But you’d have to account for inflation (both economic inflation and inflation of baseball contracts)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
What are the Cardinals paying for? The market is still working itself out, but assuming an average market value of $4.4 million per marginal win, seven percent annual salary inflation, and 0.5 WAR a year decline, seven years, $120 million dollars indicates a 4.5 WAR player for 2010. With that number in mind, what is a reasonable projection for Holliday?
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/holliday-returns-to-the-cardinals/
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
OK
so 120M divided by 4.4M/win = ~27.3ish wins? So 27.3 / 7 years = ~3.9 wins per year.
So (neglecting inflation) he’s got to average 4 WAR/yr over the life of the contract for the Cards to break even. If he beats that, the Cards are underpaying. I think he can do that…..
FWIW right now FG has him @ 3.3 WAR already for 2010.
i think you have to figure the discount in like fangraphs does
a 7-year deal means you are looking at production beyond 17 mil per year. it’s different than 7 separate 1-yr deals. don’t know their formula, but you are probably looking at getting production of 140 mil or more rather than 120.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
discount i don't know what you mean?
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
when you give a long-term deal
their is a discount rate – in exchange for the security. it’s different than a one-year deal for 17 mil, then another, then another, etc.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
are we using 17 mil?
shouldn’t we be using 15 mil? I know Cots has him at 17, but i could have sworn 2 mil was deferred…
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
your right
but they figure the 2 million deffered into the payroll for this year so it technically counts
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Only when ownership needs to flaunt how much they are spending
I absolutely stone cold guarantee their actual accounting reflects that money as being discounted since it is deferred.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 23, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
*it's either discounted for the present value
Or they don’t even put it on the books until it is actually paid out. There is a zero percent chance they count that 2M in full each year it is deferred from.
Not afraid to nitpick
so depending how they are investing the money,
the present value of that deferred money could be like .5 mil
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
if not, to account for the deferred money he would
have to put up some WAR when retired.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm trying to get a general sense of what the break-even number is over the life of the contract
I have no idea what you’re talking about with this discount stuff.
The discount basically means,
in return for a longer contract, Holliday accepts a lower annual salary.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
fangraphs always figures it in when discussing contracts
and WAR values. for instance, holliday could have signed for 1 yr, 20 mil, but for 2-3 yrs he’d get 19 per, for 3-4 it’d be 18 per, and for 5-6 it’d be 17 per, and 7 yrs maybe requires some deferred money – the player gives up something per year for the long-term security of the contract. so a club would have to value holliday at 20mil per year to give him 17mil per year for seven years, which means they would expect 20mil of production, however you want to calculate the cost of 1WAR – i think it fluctuates somewhat.
(i’m just making the numbers up to illustrate.)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
would you figure the discount into that?
in other words, they are paying for more than 17mil per in production by dint of the 7-yr deal.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
depends on how you value it
maybe for individual years he is underpayed, but for a seven-year deal there is a discount per year. you shouldn’t look at it as 7 one-year contracts and then sum it up.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
We had quite a discussion about this in the offseason.
I wrote three pieces dealing with other long-term LFers, Holliday’s historically similar comparisons, and other Ten-Millionaires. But, there is more and a lot of it was better than mine.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Jun 23, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it is nice to have him back
but I did do that fanpost about how he gets better as the season progresses, so I’m not that surprised.
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
derp forgot the link
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703438604575314763366028050.html
it’s about the minor league lancaster jethawks and their ridiculous stadium
Signatures are overrated.
Remember that time the US soccer team scored in the 91st minute to win the pool and stave off elimination?
That was cool
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
do you know how they did it in 1930 -
was there drama, or did the third match even matter?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Stav off elimination?
they did it from their knees?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Jun 23, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
whoops. don't mind me
i seem to have misplaced my baseball blog
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Funny huh....
this looks exactly like the one I’ve lurched around nearly everyday for the past 4 years…same posters and everything. Just that this is apparently a soccer blog. It’s like an alternate universe or something.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
You know...
It’s only for a month or so. It’s only every 4 years. And it’s not even talked about everyday.
March Madness and NFL/college football on the other hand… That shit got old.
Regression, bitches.
plus everyone is rooting for the same team
most everyone, anyway
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm an Eritrea guy myself
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
(you're not doing this right)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I guess Albertofstan is a technocracy
since Albert is a Maching
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Jun 23, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kenapa
pak? Tidak ada yang punya, apanya, tidak ada orang orang yang bisa main. Lebih baik main badminton!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
i like how this one poster on bcb picks all cards on his fantasy team because no one else will pick them. then he just forgets all about fantasy and roots for the cubs. if they don’t win the division, he says he knows at least he won his fantasy league without even checking.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Not me
I’m an Argentina fan. If other people here were Argentina fans, I could talk. As it is, I could care less.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I don't really care...
found it more humorous than anything. Other than the first couple of posts, I read 50 about the World Cup before getting back to baseball. It likely won’t shorten my life any.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
Nobody's asking you to
It’s not that hard to skip over the chatter you don’t care about. Yes, this is a baseball blog, but I think we, as a community, have gotten tight enough that we can discuss other things
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
have you seen
the music thread? I believe you even posted in it….
allow me one more soccer question then, please
I admit that this US world cup team has been an exciting surprise, but how come whenever I watch the US or other teams composed of the most elite soccer athletes in the world, there’s always at least a couple plays where the ball is sitting in front of a giant, gaping open net and some player kicks it wide or hits the post or, even more commonly, boots it over the net by about 60 feet?
Yeah, if you look at Jozy's missed goal from point-blank range today
The ball is traveling downwards, he has to kick high to meet the ball, then try and keep the ball under the crossbar. Simple physics says that the ball is going to want to travel upwards
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
From an early age,
Soccer players get screamed at for exactly this. It’s like a golfer missing a 4 ft putt or an outfielder dropping an easy fly. Some combination of pressure, inattention, luck, and other things imperceptable to the audience.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Jun 23, 2010 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
...

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I had to...
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
We could combine the two,
and remember Matt Holliday getting hit in the groin by Dan Haren. I’m not really sure how that would help though….
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
the way haren is hitting, i could see that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'll give you a rec
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think a lot of players are still getting used to the ball this time, too
Not everybody has used it a lot before, and it apparently is designed to spin less and “knuckle” more, in baseball terms (I think, feel free to correct me on this guys). I think the Germans used it in their league last year but they are in the minority.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
leave it to the Germans to do the smart thing
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
It's really hard to square up a moving soccer ball
Seriously, try it some time. These guys are pros, yes, but they’re also trying to do it in the midst of defensive pressure from all sides and a closing window of opportunity.
how far can a soccer ball be kicked in the air - 70 yards?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Tim Howard regularly kicks it 90 yards, I'd say
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I don't know about that
He usually gets it past midfield, but not 90 yards.
I would guess 90 yards is probably the absolute max for the strongest legged dudes.
Yeahhhh, there was some rough meter-to-yard converting in there
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
hey, there was a separate fanshot for this
everyone moved over here.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
stupid soccer
at least I haven’t had to see any of it, but it’s all over facebook and baseball blogs
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions
and the twittersphere
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
the super freaking i have no idea what you're talking about league
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i gathered that much i just don't get it
or just didn’t have a witty response
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Fine. I'll do it.
They’re actually a relegated team in the EPL, and it stands for Nottingham United. F. Tuck is known as one of the best goalies nobody knows about, L. John is a bear of a defender, and R. Hood is known to be one of the foxiest strikers in the league, famous for his snipes from long range
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Jun 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and Maid Marian is in a short dress
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Wait, the US has other Soccer fans?
I thought my species was extinct!
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Crap, can't think of any biological metaphor.
Not like soccer fans have a mating season every 4 years….
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
what's this ad, then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2FRXmjfVaE
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the cicadas that come out every - i think it was 17 years
i was in chicago for it, and the noise was like attending the world cup. really, it drives you nuts when it starts up, and they are just everywhere.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hey let's talk about the gonzalez firing, that should keep your mind off soccer
i said it earlier and now Jon heyman is saying Gonzalez is top candidate to take over braves in ’11
fredi got fired?
if so, yeah he’d probably get the atlanta job, depending on what else was open. why was he fired?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
just read the article
it said he led them to a franchise-record 87 wins last year. that is very surprising, considering the two world series. and he’s replaced by the AAA manager mid-season? kind of strange.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
article said the owner wanted to fire him at the end of last year
because they didn’t make the playoffs. then he was ready to fire him again this year just before the hanley incident, so they held off because they didn’t want to appear to be supporting hanley at all. so i doubt hanley had anything to do with it. loria said he expects this team to compete for a championship, and they are under .500.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I said this in the earlier thread, how can they expect to compete?
sure the talent is there but with the braves/ phillies beating them with depth and the mets with salary, how can they expect to win? they’re just out of luck, if they were in the central they’d probably be ahead of the reds.
thats just not true
they won 92 games in 1997 and won the WS, then won 91 games in 03 and another WS
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
yeah, i thought it sounded messed up
it’s the sb nation article at the bottom of the right margin
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
thanks. yeah, come on SBNation stop printing false information
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Nice post again, RB.
also, how about the Aquabats "Hot Summer Nights (Won’t Last Forever)?
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 23, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
so last night's game was cool
the outcome and all, but am i the only one who thought it was kind of boring playing toronto? the must have been like 30 people in attendance
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
at least we didn't have to play in oakland at the mausoleum
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it makes me sad to see empty baseball stadiums
it would suck to be a toronto fan. even when they’re good, they’re still not good because of the AL east.
the field is so weird, too. the OF looks gigantic because there’s hardly any dirt in the IF.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
One of my sons
lives in TO and is a Jays fan. It must be frustrating to have a better WPC than us and be in 4th place. We don’t talk about it.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Jun 23, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
hehehe
Wimbledon commentator just compared Isner’s swing-and-miss to a batsman facing a doosra. They really need to pick up some baseball metaphors.
blarg
is that match still going?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it just stays on serve, right?
nobody is getting broken and breaking back?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Apparently no one's even close to breaking
From what I read Mahut hasn’t had a break point all set, and Isner hasn’t had one since it was 33-32 (now 46-45). This is just goofy – at some point they have to find a way to end it.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
paper rock scissors, best of three
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I was thinking roshambo,
but your suggestion is probably more appropriate for Wimbledon.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
because I said it wrong and the drive on the wrong side of the road
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
someone will pass out eventually
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Jose Bautista!?!
I find the Bautista story is interesting because it parallels the story of a hitter I have worked with, Andres Torres of the Giants (LF), who has seen a pop over the past 2 years. People have been wondering what happened and, as I explain in this piece…
My Experience With Andres Torres
…it has a lot to do with Torres’ finally getting good information about how good hitters actually swing the bat.
I don’t know Bautista, but I wonder if something similar happened to Bautista, especially since both he and Pujols are from the DR and Pujols is very willing to talk hitting if asked.
P.S. I think this whole bad hitting information thing is relevant to the idea of the AAAA player, at least on the hitting side.
P.P.S. Is the AAAA phenomenon just applicable to hitters or does it also apply to pitchers?
Evan MacLane, Oneli Perez, possibly even PJ Walters
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
walters has consistently been pretty damn good throughout the minors
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
You could argue that the best way to pick a lock involves a live alaskan salmon.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Jun 23, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it would have been just fine in the bigs
Problem is he went from 91-96 to 88-92.
Not afraid to nitpick
I think it applies MORE to pitchers than hitters
Seems a lot of guys can get by with 87 mph at AAA but don’t get it done in the bigs.
Not afraid to nitpick
RT @ RobRains
An earthquake hit Toronto and just shook the Cardinals team hotel for 30 seconds. Email from John Rooney said everything is OK.
I figured Diner tripped on his way to the buffet line
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 23, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I want to hear what the California guys said
last time they were in town for an earthquake, they shrugged it off
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
5.5
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/us2010xwa7.php
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
scary
hope they are ok
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
clearly next one at Philly.
RobRains Rooney say there are no indications of damage or injuries yet, but a lot of confusion. The Blue Jays were in San Diego earthquake last week. 6 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dang
they are the earthquake team!
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't realize they had earthquakes in that part of Canada
by jd is legend on Jun 23, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a mid-continental plate not unlike the New Madrid area
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
highest scoring game ever?
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
off espn2
the next matches have started in S Africa
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And now they've reached the century mark
50-50. That’s like two whole matches’ worth of games in one interminable set.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i was just doing the math on that
this set is like a typical 5-set tough match, in number of games played. isner just saved 2 break points, but he looks like a zombie. i don’t give him much longer.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Good gravy
I checked the interwebs to see who had won. It is absolutely flabbergasting that it is still going.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
espn3.com is showing it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I just started streaming it
One of the announcers said “Texas Leaguer.” Yay for baseball metaphors!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
the chair ump announced the score in disbelief
9 hours.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Maybe they should start the games at love-30 from here on out
Someone might actually have a shot at a break that way.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
tiebreaker once it hits 50 all - but who envisioned that?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I had actually forgotten that a match couldn't end in a tie breaker until just a couple days ago
Maybe my brain is psychic.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
yeah, not in the 4 majors
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
don't believe so
not in the fifth set – pretty sure that’s for all the majors, no?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
From Wikipedia
he tiebreak is sometimes not employed for the final set of a match, so that the deciding set must be played until one player or team has won two more games than the opponent. This is true in three of the four major tennis championships, all except the United States Open where a tiebreak is played even in the deciding set (fifth set for the men, third set for the women) at 6–6.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
huh
i believe that is a more recent change. i used to live in new york and attended every year, and i recall a great night match with patrick mcenroe that i’m almost certain went long into the fifth. also recall sampras puking in the fifth at like 8-8.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the sampras incident
which was more than once that set, may have had something to do with the change.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this could only happen at wimbledon
where you can win every service game and don’t have to deal with the heat of new york or down under
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Good point
Different weather could make this unbearable.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
johnny mac shown taking the match in
the queen should be there soon
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
she won't make it then
match point…saved. she can get there by tomorrow if it continues – the sun has pretty much set.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Totally Random and Worthless Observations
a) US World Cup Team survives – woot!
b) Tony Larussa’s daughter is pretty darn hot
c) If Holliday maintains his current pace from the past four games, he will finish the season with approximately 155 HRs and a .750 Average.
stav is hitting cleanup tonight wat
lopez
holliday
pujols
stavinoha
freese
rasmus
molina
winn
ryan
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
This is a joke, right?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
That's because the joke is on us.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
wtf is stav doing on our team
freakin retarded
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF: Tonight's Lineup
Lopez 2B
Holliday LF
Pujols 1B
Stavinoha DH
Freese 3B
Rasmus CF
Molina C
Winn RF
Ryan SS
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
o noez
ludwick should be DHing if he’s not going to be playing
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
There goes that "rest the regulars with the DH spot" idea.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
misinformation
see, he had the jays preparing for that, and he pulled the switcheroo – genius.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The Jays' pitchers are all scared saying to themselves,
“Crap, I thought we were gonna see Ludwick tonight, but now we have to face Stavinoha? We’ve got no chance! And Randy Winn is just overkill!”
I actually don’t mind Winn playing at all.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
At least he's in the proper batting order.
You want to DH Stav? Fine. Bat him 7th.
Regression, bitches.
or they are over-confident
tony is lulling them
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
man.
I’m okay with Ludwick sitting and DHing. I’m just not really OK with Staivnoha batting 4th when Colby and Freese are in the same lineup.
they have a lefty tonite?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think he wants to APu catch Barry's Bases loaded IBB record
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
he does keep batting pitchers fourth, doesn't he
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I sure am glad that Stavinfection is the everyday DH.
Ya know, because there aren’t any better options.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
tweeters of VEB
post your things. i made a new one that i may actually use to tweet about gadgets and baseball and such. we’ll see. i’m not real good at all this social networking stuff, but this is at least way less creepy than facebook
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
That and the World Cup and this ridic Wimbledon marathon
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
the crowd keeps growing at the isner match
it’s a spectacle. i wonder how many have been there from the outset.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i wonder if carp and waino can serve heat
they have the height and the arms – roddick supposedly has a good fastball.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I didn't realize that the 5th set started today.
They stopped the game yesterday because of darkness.
Regression, bitches.
this match is a continuation?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yes.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ggGGiBtrewAj42Es30E6cTKAhSIAD9GH4SA00
Still, the 5th set is approaching 7 hours, and is already the longest ever played.
Regression, bitches.
yeah, but it makes it a little less impressive to me now
just a little, because that’s a long time. isner is delirious, might not know where he is. the other guy is bouncing around. the umpire just stumbled over the announcing of the score – sure he’s never dealt with such big numbers before.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm also a little less impressed.
But it’s still a remarkable amount of tennis. And Isner was supposed to play doubles today, too. Whoops.
Regression, bitches.
i hope it was rescheduled and not a forfeit
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, that would be pretty unfair to him
“I’m still playing in another official Wimbledon match” seems like a pretty solid excuse….
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i don't know the rules on that
and isner’s partner might be one of those doubles-only guys, so this is his payday.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
They think they're playing ping pong
and they’re wondering how their paddles got so big, man. Also, they think they are still in Vietnam.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
i think this is live streaming
http://espn.go.com/espn3/player?id=6367&league=Wimbledon
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this might get stopped for darkness again
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
time out at 58-all
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...I believe the crowd is doing the wave.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, they are delirious too
this is a huge crowd for this matchup
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
mahut selling it
diving for a ball
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'm relying on audio
no hope of getting a proper video stream on this comp
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
controversy
might call it here.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
to be continued
mahut wanted it stopped, isner acted pissed by the decision
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
haha, wow.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
probably over in 5 minutes tomorrow
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It gets useful
Once you’re following a lot of people. Keeps teh twitterz organized and easier to read all the unread tweets.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
@gbowles
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
damnit! thought I clicked reply. f'n SBN
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
So now will you haters vote for Holliday for the All-Star team?
or must he surpass .300/.400/.500 w/ RISP first?
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
i didn't realize people here weren't voting for holliday
still, i think rasmus and luddy are more deserving at this point. holliday won’t get voted in anyway, but if he is deserving in a month’s time then i’m sure the manager and coaches will select him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I refuse to vote for the
stain on baseball that is the all star game, but that’s just me.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
with the expanded roster i think there should always be one spot for these cases
the commish should put griffey in, let him be in the homer derby, get a farewell. i know a lot of people are opposed, but i think of ripken’s last all-star game.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm opposed.
It actually matters (WS home field) and such gestures are just awkward and weird (the Ripken/A-Rod thing was just bizarre)
blarg
if it matters so much then the fans shouldn't vote either
he doesn’t have to actually play. the rosters are what now, over 30?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah, fan voting is stupid too
but otherwise, the managerial selections are at times dumb as well (see Charlie Manuel last year)
blarg
I've never voted for the ASG either
I almost want to just vote for all Phillies players, though.
Just to prove how inane the current system has become.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Just be careful
Selig might hear you and decide to “fix” it. We all know how well he does when he steps in to fix things.
Before too long, the Elias folks will be deciding the All-Star roster with a (not very) modified version of their free agent rankings. The year after that the draft will use the system to pre-determine all draft choices and slot bonuses to improve parity.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
ambiguous answer
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Germany finally breaks through
So if it stays like this we’ll be getting Ghana next round…? I think they’d win the tiebreaker against Serbia with one more goal scored.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
Holy cow - it's now slightly plausible that Australia makes it through
They’re up 2-0 on Serbia. If they score one more and Germany scores one more, Australia beats Ghana on goals scored.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
tonight's lineup
does not compute
1. Lopez, 2B
2. Holliday, LF
3. Pujols, 1B
4. Stavinoha, DH
5. Freese, 3B
6. Rasmus, CF
7. Molina, C
8. Winn, RF
9. Ryan, SS
Abort, Retry, or Fail
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
its been so long since i used to play with dos as a kid
but what was the difference between Abort and Fail?
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
Effectively?
nothing. In my experience, choosing any of the three choices usually resulted in the same outcome, the Abort, Retry, or Fail choice appearing once again.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ludwick left the game early last night
Do you think there is something wrong? I hope it is just Tony showing off his geniusness again.
"I've had pretty good success with Stan (Musial) by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine
who knows
Frankie getting pulled the other night turned out to be a lingering sinus infection
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well, he sucked too
maybe because of the infection, but sucking like that will get you pulled even if healthy
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think Tony is concerned about Luddy's health
It’s easy to be snarky from the outside looking in on day-to-day lineup oddities, but it usually makes sense down the road.
Except for Aaron Miles starting at 3B/SS… that never makes sense.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
4th!
We’re batting our 7th best hitter 4th!
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think Colby is allowed to bat 4th... too good at baserunning maybe?
Freese… not enough raw power…
Molina? That’s so 09.
I feel a 3K, 1 HR (from his knees) kind of night for Stav.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Lopez would have been 4th
Yadi would have been better 4th.
Freeeze and Rasmus would definitely have been better 4th.
Skip Schumaker would have been better 4th.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it's pretty clear by now that Flopex is our leadoff man when he plays
And Molina? I fail to see how a higher contact ratio leads to more RBI’s. Nonsensical.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
probably boog and skip
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
skip's not in the lineup
must mean boog and pujols.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yes, that.
;lakhf0oa40lkdga;lkhga;d!!!1
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
you think stav is our seventh best hitter?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Better than Skip, Ryan, LaRue and Miles
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
skip is where we disagree then
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think they are about even
Skip was only able to be a not terrible offensive player because of a .325 career BABIP. Based on his hitting a ton of grounders and flairs and not having great speed, I’m thinking that number is lucky.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
how do you get lucky for that many plate appearances exactly?
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Skip has only had 1,700 career plate appearances
and 1,400 balls in play. And BABIP stabilizes (meaning past performance predicts future performance at 50%) at 1500 balls in play, so that means Skip’s past BABIP will only predict his future BABIP around 45% of the time, which means their is a 55% chance that Skip’s BABIP will be lower than .325 going forward (not really how it works, but it’s close enough) which means that their is around a 30% chance that Skips current BABIP is .325 without any skill involved.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
without any skill?
i don’t see how this is possible…. if you’re saying he should be closer to .300 than .325 then i get what you’re saying i guess…
how does this make stavinoha better skip?
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm saying there is a very decent chance that Skip's BABIP is .325 if he has *no* BABIP skill whatsoever
But my rough math, I’m going to say that number is around 15%. And it’s very, very likely that his BABIP going forward will be in between .300 and .325, siding slighltly on the .300 side.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Australia up 2-0 over Serbia
If they score two more, or if Germany scores two more, or if both Australia and Germany score one more, then Australia can make it out of their pool
This shit is nutstarded
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Welp, that about does it for my Australia dream scenario
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Wait, one more goal by Serbia puts THEM through now
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
This is what happens
when so many games in your sport end in ties.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 23, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you trying to insinuate that ties are bad?
It leads to hugely interesting scenarios in group play, and there’re no ties in the knockout rounds
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah, i've changed my mind on the ties in the group play
it keeps more teams alive, which makes it more interesting – like pennant races.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Pitching matchup of the weekend: Greinke vs. Soup Friday night
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions
Don't remind me.
At least I get to see Greinke pitch. I get to see Suppan and Hawksworth as our starters. Ugh.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
take heart
you won’t have to watch suppan for long.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's true
but if he can pitch an effective half-game, that’s fine – not ideal, but with two starters injured, not so bad.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Wasn't disputing
I just hate to think of when Suppan might blow up. It could be ugly.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I think Accuscore
will break in half.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 23, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
new P-D online goes live
old bj rains slapfight on twitter. heh. (bring unicorns).
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ooh, Strasburg's pitching right now.
Sports are conspiring to prevent me from getting anything done today.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions
reds up 2-0 in 4th in oakland
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
effin sports!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Here comes Yuniesky Betancourt to blow the game open for the Royals!
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
I would really, really like to see a fanpost that compares and contrasts the different defensive metrics
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
still...
I would really, really, really like to see a fanpost comparing and contrasting the different defensive metrics. really.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
how do we get stavinoha and miles off the team
is a question worth pondering. hmmmm.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
mulling
the only way to do it…pondering just doesn’t work.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
mull, ponder, call it what you will
there must be a way to remove the staviles
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
mulling has a specific meaning here
maybe you’ve been mulling so much you’ve forgotten?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I know I said mull it over once and it seemed to turn into some kind of theme
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
memesplanation
buster olney ‘reporting’ that the phillies were mulling over howard for pujols
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ah
I missed that particular
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
so, olney was obviously high
but i think it was more the phils front office doing the mulling, now that i think about it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Why would you want Stav off the team?
He’s one of the better bench players in the NL as far as hitting goes.
It looks ugly, but he has gotten results.
You want to DFA a player hitting .309/.345/.455? Really? He won’t end the season hitting over .300, but a SLG of .450+ is within his reach, which is above-average for PH-focused bench players.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
ya
my VEB inclinations and his performance to this point this season really have me conflicted on how to react
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
i know
it’s not likely to continue forward.
however, he HAS been effective so far this season. just take that at face value.
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
At face value it means we can breathe a sigh of relief and then DFA him for someone talented.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
ANYONE can be effective if they are getting 43% of their groundballs to go for hits
Not afraid to nitpick
No it's not
He’s striking out in 30% of his PAs, swinging at 40% of balls out of zone→essentially has zero plate discipline and doesn’t really have light tower power to make up for that massive deficiency. He’s gotten extremely lucky so far and if he had a .300 BABIP would be hitting something like .235/.260/.350
Not afraid to nitpick
So ride him while he is lucky, which could be most of the season.
Fernando Tatis is hitting .175/.254/.333 for the Mets and getting similar playing time as Stav.
Is a bad player playing above his head more frustrating than a historically average player flailing badly? I dunno. But while he is playing over his head I will enjoy it.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Ride him while he's lucky?
That’s like saying ride a quarter because it’s flipping heads a lot. Getting grounders to go through the hole is not a skill. His underlying stats are bad and anyone should project him going forward for being bad. It’s a joke that he is DHing and even bigger that he is batting 4th.
Not afraid to nitpick
Illogical.
No guarantees that the luck will stay. The best assumption is that from here on out, his BABIP will be average, that is around .300 (generous, since he doesn’t hit a lot of line drives). If that’s his babip from here on out, he’ll suck. “Ride him while he’s lucky” isn’t the same as “ride him while he’s hot”, and we shouldn’t be doing it.
blarg
ride him til he's lucky
then watch him strike out in every postseason appearance
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
while
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I generally consider hot to = lucky
Though I understand there is a difference. Seeing the ball better is different than grounders finding gaps to be sure.
I simply maintain that he is perfectly suitable for PH duty on a major league team. He shouldn’t be batting 4th in a starting lineup (not even on the orioles or pirates), and he shouldn’t make a start on defense except in an emergency capacity.
Of course, these things happen, but I fail to see how that should make us want to get rid of Stavinoha just because he is being used improperly. Miles is another story.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Question
If Stav was hitting .235/.260/.350 like he “should” be, would you say the same?
Not afraid to nitpick
Probably not.
But you can’t make roster moves based on where players should be. A lot of it comes down to the mental state of a player, and if they are playing over their heads they can stay on a roll, and the opposite seems to be true as well (see: Allen Craig in 2010).
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
I just can't process this
Yes you can and yes you should.
If you see a guy in craps go bet $100 on Yo-11 and hit twice in a row, you don’t think “holy cow, let’s bet with this guy on Yo-11”, you think “holy cow that guy was lucky, let’s never let THAT GUY handle my money!”
Stavinoha is apparently in a good mental state…..and still has TERRIBLE underlying stats that are seemingly getting worse. Those are what you should be using to judge what he’s really done if you are trying to guess what he will be going forward. Just because he’s gotten lucky so far has just zero relevance as to what we should expect from him this point onward.
Not afraid to nitpick
the fact he was on the roster to begin with
shows they don’t care about his underlying stats.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Baseball luck and craps luck are two different animals.
Flipping a quarter is complete luck.
Craps is complete luck.
There is certainly a lot of luck in hitting grounders through the hole, but there is still some skill involved.
Nick Stavinoha is a bad baseball player, but he is OK at PH’ing because he usually does so in late innings and he seems to have a mysterious power over average-to-crappy relievers.
I do not want Nick on the roster next year, and when the September call-ups come along, I think he should be a benchwarmer.
I just don’t think he should be DFA’d in the middle of the season when he’s humming along at about average for his role in the NL.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
How about this
Stavinoha should not ever be seeing the field as a DH when Allen Craig is better than him and on the 40-man.
Not afraid to nitpick
he doesn't have a mysterious power IT'S CALLED LUCK
Why should we wait for him to suck before letting him go? We already know he’s not good at baseball.
blarg
again, they knew what he was to begin with (i hope)
yet rostered him out of spring training. why would they cut him now?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Because maybe they realized how stupid they were being in the first place?
And decided to stop being stupid? They are a FO after all, being stupid should not be the norm, just the occasional mistake.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
it might not be the front-office
i don’t think they are stupid. not that i think tony is stupid, but i believe he wants stav here.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Right I don't think they are stupid either, which is why I think the Stav move was a mistake that they should have the will to abort
The only reason they aren’t doing it would be Tony’s confirmation bias in how well he is hitting and perhaps risk of fan unhappiness (although I can’t imagine people would care much if Stav were to leave – I doubt he has any kind of cult following, he’s just not cool enough).
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you underrate how people remember the Hoffman HR
I made some money the other day betting some moron that Stav wouldn’t hit .300 the rest of the year…
Not afraid to nitpick
Didn't we have this discussion yesterday?
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
you only have to look at the Stav's K & BB %s to know that his current numbers are mirage
I am pleasantly pleased, thankyouverymuch
let's just say that I'm not real confident in the guy's hitting going forward
and he can’t defend, so, there’s that.
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
also
small sample size
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
wow college recruiting is pathetic
Lake Forest College sent me a postcard with fans in Wrigley Field wearing Cubs jerseys… on the back it says that the the college is connected to the city and go in city and whatnot
ironic…. a school trying to get me to go there because they might just go to Wrigley Field… (for non-Cubs fans, I don’t get this… the product on the field is poor and not worth watching)
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
Suckworth
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Strasburg's striking out just over 15 per 9 IP (including his 7 in 4 IP today).
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 5:29 PM EDT reply actions
2 of em are Bannister looking like an AL pitcher though
His velo is down today. Though I actually like his changeup 87-90 when he’s throwing 95-98 better than the 91-93 when he was 97-100
Not afraid to nitpick
I seriously don't see why
Isn’t the differential the only thing that matters?
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm totally guessing
But I think he’s getting more movement with it #1 (if not by spin, by the fact that it has a couple split seconds to break) and then also it’s not dead in the normal zone of fastballs—-hitters have 90-93 timed in their heads pretty well.
Not afraid to nitpick
probably a pretty reasonable guess
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Those reasons both make sense
But I would still rather seen some evidence before I believe that. I’ll see if I can take a look at it.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I just like to think that way since that’s what I’ve been thinking all year and then he’s backed it down the past couple of starts and gotten a Insane® number of swinging strikes on it…
Not afraid to nitpick
This actually seems like a good idea for a study, and it should be easy to do
So thanks.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Very few, but that's why I'd be comparing intra-pitcher instead of across all pitchers
I can probably find at least 10 pitchers with a change that hits 92 and varying degrees of fastball velocity.
And if not, I can just use lower velocities and extrapolate from the difference.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I wouldn’t be using anyone averaging less than 94 on the fastball though, that’s gonna get past the point where what I’m saying will matter.
Not afraid to nitpick
announcers talking about the ank meltdown
in nats game – showed that graphic about the 10 k games without a walk.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ank
I’d like to see Ank as a Loogy and backup outfielder. He’d probably be quite valuable in that role in that he could hit for himself, would probably eat left handers alive, and essentially be a fourth outfielder. The potential for double and triple switches by TLR would almost infinite
Just win
i'd love to see it too
but probably somewhere else.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Strasburg
looked pretty good, but has given up 5 line drives in the 5th inning. Lucky only 1 run scored.
blarg
I don't know if Billy Butler floating one over the 1B really counts as a line drive
Not afraid to nitpick
ynoa finally threw his first pro pitch
only took a couple years. and sano is tearing it up – wonder why we didn’t go after him instead of mateo? i think the money was about the same.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/scouting-the-short-season-leagues/
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think a lot of it has to do with connections
Who we have down there, which Dominican instructors they’re familiar with, etc.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
yeah, i could see that
they all have those reps who are a bit shady too – anyone recall what they are called, these coach/agent types, in spanish?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ha
i can’t come up with the word, but it’s used as commonly in baseball as bodega is used in new york.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it was one million more than mateo, highest at time
and i believe the a’s set the precedent for signing players like this
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
ynoa
and for an extra mil, i’ll take sano, but like mysterui said above, maybe we didn’t have a chance.
2 nats thrown out at the plate this game, 1-0 royals. but the last guy was safe.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i was just commenting on a horrible call
as bad as joyce’s – well, actually worse because it could change the outcome.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Not really
Butler’s “line drive” was a floater, Guillen’s “line drive” landed 10 feet past the infield. Callapso in the 2nd and the out to end the 5th and DeJesus are the only ones that jump off my head that were really hit hard.
Not afraid to nitpick
I guess you're kind of right - he's better than his WHIP for this outing.
Still, I felt that he was giving up more hard-hit balls than in his previous outings. Maybe something to do with his velocity?
blarg
asn't there an argument on VEB about Strasburg
comparing him to a SEC pitcher? I seem to remember the commenter was arguing that Strasburg was over rated because this other pitcher had put up similar numbers in a tougher conference
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
Strasburg rocking a 1.50 FIP through 4 starts
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Jun 23, 2010 6:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
please just stop with all that overblown hype. he's just a product of east-coast biased fespn.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 23, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Sarchasm like sarcasm but really deep?
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
by TomCat009 on Jun 23, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
don't be so quick to dismiss man
I feel the birth of a meme relating to peoples inability to filter internet sarcasm
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
which will then fail because it's not obvious enough
/meme-forecast.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what if it was used descriptively
Wow, really fell into the sarchasm there
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
it could be tried
I just observe the effects.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I guess I just don't understand why people complain about the hype.
barring injury, or some sort of bizarre Ankiel-like meltdown, he’s going to be f’ing awesome. I don’t see why I shouldn’t be excited by this.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 23, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
People have a natural inclination to be partypoopers
It makes them feel smarter.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He is amazing and just what that franchise(and MLB) needs
there seems to be a lot of young exciting players entering baseball right now, it could be perception but it seems that 7 of the top 10 pitchers in baseball are 27 or under.
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
and his skillset should point to his lasting longer than the average pitcher
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
It is so good to be a cards fan right now
barring freak injuries or mental meltdowns
- 900+OPS in all three outfield spots(solid to spectacular D)
-1000+ OPS from 1B
-the best defensive catcher in baseball(who is also solid offensively)
-a potential ROY candidate at 3B
-the best super U in baseball
and when healthy the best rotation in MLB
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
i feel i should say something nice about the rocks now
so, i hope you guys can get and stay healthy. what a run of bad luck with the injuries.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
please tell us how the Rocks have even close to the rotation of the Cards
And offensive talent.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
where do you get that?
i just said they’ve been getting hit by injuries.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
On the pitching side
I will use a Stat that I know you respect. and that without our number 2 starter or closer so far.
The offense is really in flux right now we have four OF with around a .500 slugging average the team would be better if Hawpe went back to 1B like he was in college, and we hadn’t just lost our franchise player for two monthes.
The Cards(and Spants) are coming to Denver right before the ASB we will see how that goes, either this team implodes around the Tulo injury or starts getting it together and playing up to expectation and get a late season lift from Tulo’s return
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
Yeah the DLR and Street thing was bad enough
but losing a 900+ OPS SS is a luxury this team does not have. On the silver lining side maybe Chris Nelson pushes barmes to super U
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
I get the feeling he's going to be the most frustrating pitcher in baseball when he's 38
He’s going to be throwing 85 but still beating people with sliders/cutters/changeups/and a 66 mph curveball.
Not afraid to nitpick
color me unimpressed
i could do that if i wanted – just give me his height, pitch arsenal, control, and demeanor – then its a piece of cake
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
he seriously looks like a badass on the mound...
sure its helps that he’s King over 9 per inning
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
catcher can't catch, obviously
f’n pudge.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how many does he have?
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
you put per inning rather than per game
messing with you.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
wow didn't even notice it
haha
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 23, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
the pierogi was rehired, so everyone can stop worrying about him, or it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Boggs is hilarious
he has the full report on the beards. he says his is because it makes him look like a gentleman.
motte’s apparently changes all the time.
I missed one — “he has a good one, but he just won’t commit”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
making fun of Hawksworth's Canadianness.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was a classic pre-game.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he said Hawks came out of the hotel dressed like a Mountie
I am skeptical, but that’s a funny image.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
boggs, the southern gent
totally see that, his family being so prominent in atlanta and all.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
his father has some huge firm in atlanta
they probably have a plantation or something. anyway, some of his detractors from atlanta figure daddy is paying the cards to keep him – some posters on talking chop went to high school with him, and the general population of that site knows of his family, so the clan must be a pretty big deal.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Huh
I guess the fastball he can dial up to 98 has nothing to do with why the Cards are keeping him. Must be the rich daddy.
It’s amazing what kind of crazy logic people will resort to.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Ludwick is apparently cramping up. that's why the sitting out.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there's probably a joke there somewhere
if RFL wasn’t beloved.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
dibble talking about strasburg being put on the final five list by the commish
to be voted on by fans to determine the final all-star roster spot.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
just wondering but uhh...
what would be the appropriate contract given to Jaime Garcia at this point? For the record, I’m talking about a Waino/Longoria type contract where its longer term…
what should be done… a Waino like deal filtered with options or something completely different because of his shoulder injury?
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
I woud not sign Jaime to a longer term deal just yet...
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 23, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, no reason to do that
razzums, otoh…should have done it in the off-season
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he had tommy john - elbow
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
iw ould give him league min for two more years
and then go to arbitration with him
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
at least the two more years, definitely
then they could see where they’re at – maybe arb, maybe a deal
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
earthquake update
yeah, the SoCal guys were not terribly bothered.
1. the guys on the early bus didn’t feel it… the guys who lingered for the late bus were at the hotel and did
2. Aaron Miles felt it… and was immediately called up by Brendan Ryan.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm in SoCal
There was an earthquake? Miles lives in fucking SoCal?
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
keep up
there was an earthquake in Canada
and yes, Miles lives in the Bay Area. that’s how he got scooped up… right after a series with the Giants.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Boy that would be awkward
“hey (nicks friend) look it’s that Miles guy who I was telling you is like the worst baseball player in the hisotyr of of the game”
by vivaelpujols on Jun 23, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
you're in LA aren't you?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
miles is from the bay area, so was just curious
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Haha
That’s like asking if someone was from STL and saying, “Oh, because he’s from Chicago”
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
well, yadi2 said miles from the bay area, and vep said
he might run into him then, and i wondered why – san fran and la don’t lead me to this conclusion.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
why wasn't miles on the early bus - doesn't he have anything to work on?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
someone has to make sure Boog gets out of bed
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
For the record books, Strasburg's first career loss was at the hands of the Royals.
Probably not too many saw that coming.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 23, 2010 7:08 PM EDT reply actions
but it was a really impressive loss
Time is the best teacher; Unfortunately it kills all its students
the umpire blew a call at the plate badly
like the usa/slovenia game, which would have given strasburg a no-decision
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Just wanted to drop in and say...
AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!
That goal was like Nick Stavinoha hitting a 2-out, 2-strike, down three runs grand slam in the 9th inning off of 2003-era Eric Gagne to put the Cardinals in the World Series. So improbable. Beat Ghana.
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Salvaged scrap-heapers? How about franklin, pineiro, and lopez to name three players close to our hearts.
Also “summer lies” by the magnetic fields; “summer of the shark” by yo la tengo, neither are great songs, just fine.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Jun 24, 2010 3:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions

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