Fan Confidence Polls
If you'll look just to the left of this lede you might notice a new network-wide feature taking up residence beneath the all-seeing eye of The Birdo: The SB Nation St. Louis Fan Confidence Poll.
It's pretty self-explanatory; every week the polls open to take the pulse of each team's fandom, on a confidence scale of 0-100, and when they close a picture is taken for posterity of fan contentment and/or hysteria at that very moment. The same is now going on at sister-blogs Turf Show Times and St. Louis Game Time, if you've got multiple fandom moods to communicate.
The results of these polls will be tracked in beautiful sparkline form at SB Nation St. Louis.
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I felt like a 75 but voted 70
The poll is trending artificially pessimistic.
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 21, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder if that just correlates at postive rates(over 50%)
I care so little about the Rams(20%) that I won’t even vote. So the lack of not caring votes is making the poll artificially optimistic. The people that would vote the lowest scores are so broken that they don’t even care to vote? Or do they vote 0% in an act of defiance?
Mmmmm data
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Done.
Unintentionally done, but done nonetheless as an 85 person who in my optimism rounded up to 90.
I felt like a 90, voted 90.
We need a couple of better pieces but, all in all, we’re not that bad.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 22, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
i also felt 85 but voted 80.
shit we should have coordinated
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
to make up for both of you, I voted 100
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
There always has to be one.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 22, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
frustrations aside, I'll go the condom route and say that I'm 98% sure they'll win a game in the playoffs
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Cool
It’s like we’re part of one big Frank Luntz focus group.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 21, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions
How would that be cool?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I am an idiot
I thought clicking vote would take me to the voting page. So I guess I voted 50. I probably would have voted 90 if I wasn’t an incompetent boob.
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
I kind of did the same thing
pretty sure I voted the lowest though….subconscious taking over since voldershort is on the squad
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
+ one more dummy
maybe 50% will always win?
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
negative numbers im sure would indicate you aren't a fan
in that case i bid adieu to you
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 21, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of
is this not the stupidest fanpost you’ve ever read?
i thought he had some intelligence…. but my god that would so fucking stupid to trade away all our 2011 draft picks for proven vets (not the same as the cardinals proven vets to be fair)
he’s just dumb
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, in fairness
it worked for Ditka in 1999 when the Saints traded all their picks for Ricky Williams.
… oh, wait, no, it didn’t. It was an absolute failure. Huh.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 22, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
well.. one could say but for Ditka's move with Ricky Williams, the Saints wouldn't
be where they are now.
The old genitalia in the toaster fallacy.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
that's one way of saying it.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 22, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I put 90
9 is cool
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 21, 2010 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
...but 6 is serious...
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
bow ties are cool.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 22, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I can't stand bow ties
they’re creepy
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought peeing your pants was cool...
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 22, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe when you are in pre school
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 23, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
or in a nursing home.
Baseball first, teams second, players third, agents last.
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 23, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
How do you see the results?
Did I miss that?
Anyway, I voted 70 but it was a strong 70. I couldn’t do 75 just yet if I look around the league.
Give me 2 more weeks like these past few days and I’ll go 80.
Baseball first, teams second, players third, agents last.
there is a link that Danup provided
it goes to sbnation st. louis
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 21, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I went to the A's/Cards game yesterday. I've never been to St. Louis before. I must say, it was AWESOME! The fans/park is unparralled. Go Cards!
It’s not easy filling the shoes of fan favorite Bobby Crosby, but Cliff Pennington says he’s up to the challenge.
by DyeLongJustice on Jun 21, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm glad you liked it
we’re a little worried about new Busch’s propensity to do the wave, but it’s a good time.
It made FOUR complete circles
IN THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH!!!! On VEB day…..we tried but the only thing that could kill that wave was the suck.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Who's doing the VEB day recap?
be interested to hear how you guys all got on and maybe some sort of comparative table of user acronym pronunciation would be useful, too.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 22, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder how much trolling those polls are going to receive?
is it like all the other sb nation polls, where you don’t need to be logged in to vote?
"He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree." - Skip Schumaker on Jason Motte
Austin Wilson, please don't be a tease!
dan,
between sbnation st louis and VEB, you must do a hell of a lot of writing. and sbnation st louis is pretty nice looking. good work
i voted 80
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
is it open to interpretation what exactly you are voting on?
i voted that i was 80% confident in winning the division, but i can see how it could also mean a more general confidence in the team, or organization, or even getting to or winning the world series. maybe i missed it when i voted, but it has since disappeared.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I voted 70% in the confidence poll, confident, but no overly confident...
and I had no idea that Robinson Cano was batting .365 this year? He has to be on the voted onto the all-star team, especially since he’s a Yankee.
'Real women know that the way to a man's heart...is through a melee attack!' - KB
Formerly known as The_teague
Cano is really, really good
I think it’s possible he’s a bit under-rated actually, after having one or two slightly flakey seasons.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 22, 2010 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus his contract.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
I doubt he'll get voted to the ASG.
They probably just gave him the spot.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 22, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
my fantasy team!
he’s been a real asset this year since fielder is only having a pretty good year
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
NCAYSFT
Did I do that right?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 22, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
BTW
I’m 85% confident St. Louis will win the division, 60% confident that they’ll win their first playoff series, 45% confident that they’ll win the LCS, and 10% confident that they’ll win the WS. So, I didn’t vote. Maybe next week.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 22, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not really sure I understand the point of this.
I think it could become an interesting blog-to-blog comparative feature, though not quite sure how it’s all going to shake down in the wash…
Still bitching to contact.
Washes shake out, not down.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 22, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I have heard
that washes evident, as well
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 22, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
What would Gibby have done!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 22, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
he'd hit somebody.
Baseball first, teams second, players third, agents last.
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 23, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
SSS
I actaully can’t even see it so I don’t know how the sample size looks but assumptively SSS
"IF CARDS CAN SIGN SUPPAN THEY CAN GIVE ME A HOME"
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Jun 22, 2010 9:40 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I voted a solid 80 I think
I consider that quite confident. It’s simply too early in the season for a 100 vote, even if this looked like a team that couldn’t help but win the division. I still feel very strongly, though, that we are the front runners. So it’s also too early to panic still.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
poll would make more sense
if it were labeled “towels”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Red 6
I’ve got a problem here…..
Cardinals Baseball 2010: Why have only one 25th man when you can have four?
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Jun 22, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Um, I believe you mean Biggs Darklighter
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I used to bulls-eye womp rats back home in my T-16
They’re not much bigger than two meters.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
OT: O's trade
#Orioles may not be very good, but they pulled off the first animal surname for animal surname trade in years: Wolf for Fox
jake fox i think
former cub and now apparently former a’s player. who’s wolf?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how did he become an oriole overnight?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Not just animal,
but canidae.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I will say that the intra-St. Louis cross-promotional SBN efforts are lost on a lot of Cards fans.
I like the Cards but having not grown up near St.Louis, I DGAF about other St. Louis teams.
In other news, does anyone know if Felipe Lopez has a provision in his contract that precludes the Cards from offering arbitration if he’s a Type A FA? He’s barely Type A now according to some estimates.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 22, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions
The only one that has that clause,
to my knowledge, is Penny.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
kinda sucks for lopex
he has a hard enough time getting contracts without being type A. he’d probably just accept arby or he’ll never get an offer when it costs a first-rounder.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
but what's arb gonna be?
Much more than we signed him for, I would think.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
luckily i think it is somewhat based on this contract though
i think he can get 2 mil this year with incentives, so even if he got 50% raise it’d be 3 mil – more than skippy, but still not a bad deal for us. i still don’t get the 2 yrs for skip, unless having him under contract makes him easier to trade in the offseason to a team looking for a one-year stopgap. either that or they may as well trade descalso, who’ll be 25 next year.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I may be wrong,
but I thought arby was only salary based for non free agent players.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
lopez would be able to
submit whatever figure he wanted to in an arbitration hearing
the only stipulation with pre-free agency players (i think) that regards their current contract is that they can’t take a more than 20% pay cut. fair game on free agent eligible players
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I, also, have no interest in non-Cardinals StL-based teams
I did used to root for the Big Red ’till they left for warmer climes. Come to think of it, I still find myself rooting for them sometimes, especially when they are playing the Cowboys.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, RIP Darryl Kile
sad day in Cardinal History. SBN blog inhistoric has a pretty good article up.
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
that is still so sad.
I will never forget that day. Reading the article told me things I didn’t know. The Cubs fans gave the Cardinals a standing ovation. I don’t remember that. I remember Girardi speaking. I couldn’t imagine what had happened. God bless his family and friends.
"I've had pretty good success with Stan (Musial) by throwing him my best pitch and backing up third." - Carl Erskine
I was away at summer camp when it happened
A camp counselor was a fan of a rival team (don’t remember which team) and we were going on about each other’s team sucked. Then he goes, o by the way, Darryl Kile died yesterday. I totally thought he was still joking about how bad the team was and just crossed the line. Then when I got home and realized he wasn’t joking … man, that sucked. Pretty impressive that that team almost, and some say should have, made the WS that year. I remember that base hit by Lofton hurting almost as bad as the one by Womack the year before
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
I was taking my daughter to a friends house
sitting in their driveway, I turned on the radio to hear the start of the game and Shannon was saying something about the crowd not knowing yet and that they were waiting until the Kile family was notified. I suddenly felt like I’d been punched in the stomach.
by ArkansasTravs on Jun 23, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
top 2 starting pitchers in the NL according to elias rankings
chris carpenter
adam wainwright
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Bottom 1 way to determine what type of free agent a player is according to me
Elias rankings
But seriously, our pitchers are awesome. Y’know, when they’re all healthy and don’t include a surprisingly tolerable Suppan
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
isn't it
the official way to determine what kind of free agent a player is?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Yeah it is, which sucks
It’s archaic and for hitters, it ranks them based on average, RBI, HR, fielding percentage, stuff like that
A guy at Detroit Tigers Thoughts was able to (almost) reverse engineer the rankings to see its components
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Also, 2B, 3B, and SS are all grouped together
Which obviously benefits 3B at the detriment of 2B and SS because of the positional advantage (better hitters at 3B)
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Don't we all, my friend? Don't we all...
I myself often look past Colby’s inflated BABIP when toweling over his awesomeness
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i do too, but!q
his K rate is sure to regess enough that it’s feasible he could keep up his current pace
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I know, but his batted ball profile leans towards fly balls
Which should have a very low BABIP
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
But he's also a guy who's very selective
So when he makes contact, he’s usually swinging at a hitable pitch. He should be able to maintiain a higher than average BABIP on groundballs and linedrives.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 22, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what fangraphs or mlbtr or whoever is putting this out do
the elias system is secret so teams can’t manipulate it. they only put out the official list after the season. remember last year when the reverse-engineer made some kind of mistake in computing and had to say whoops my bad. since it’s based on two-years performance it’s not surprising that carp and waino are the top two, with timmeh being a little off thus far. well, i guess it is a little surprising considering halladay, although his numbers may not have been quite carp and waino numbers last year, unless they do some sort of league adjustment.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
OT: Happy Jaime Day!

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
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so you can now get google voice without an invite
sorry f. monk, americans only
go get your free phone numbers on
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
why no post today?
i’m having trouble waiting 3.5 more hours for the game
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Tonight's Lineup
Lopez 2B
Holliday LF
Pujols 1B
Ludwick RF
Freese 3B
Stavinoha DH
Molina C
Winn CF
Ryan SS
(Garcia SP)
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
Lefty Cecil is SP
No excuse to start f’n Winn though.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
Speaking of Colby
He’s on the front page of Yahoo! Sports Fantasy Baseball

....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
Rasmus can't hit lefties. He's not good at that..
He never has any success against them. They neutralize his power. He changes his approach and becomes less selective. Facing them messes up his swing. His confidence takes a beating. It causes him to go to steak n’ shake and get inguinal hernias.
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
sorry guys
vep couldn’t get a post up today, and I’m in the pacific time zone, where it’s tougher to adapt. Here’s a thread, featuring Tony La Russa’s smiling, pet-loving family.

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