A minor morning post
by azruavatar on Jun 13, 2010 7:00 AM EDT
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PrintIt's been an interesting weekend thus far. I'm in Northern Illinois watching the Low-A Quad Cities and I've had neither the opportunity nor the predilection to watch Cardinals baseball this weekend. There's little more to discuss with regards to recent roster moves though I was pleased to find one Fernando Salas. He's likely doomed for a Jeff Suppan induced departure but baby steps are necessary to remove me from the ledge of "the last roster spot".
It's good, as always to see HR: Colby Rasmus in the boxscore again. Less good to see was the abbreviated start by Ottavino. As I didn't see the start, it's hard to comment much about it but these types of short starts are what gives Jeff Suppan a foot in the door. The problem is that, maybe, perhaps, that's justified. It's not justified in that Jeff Suppan is little more than a replacement level player but Adam Ottavino isn't without his warts either. Ottavino's stuff remains undeniable but the results have been somewhat limited thus far.
The Cardinals have a small window of opportunity to survive on four starters but the worst fears about the rotation from the offseason have been confirmed. Short of Chris Carpenter's arm falling off (PLEASE NO!), Brad Penny injury seems to linger, Lohse's 2009 injury has made it's way into 2010 and the sixth starters from Memphis have yet to settle comfortably into the St. Louis starting role. Jaime Garcia's walk rate seems to be the last thing I needed to view after these remarks but 5 BB on Friday and a 4+ BB per 9 are leaving an unpleasant taste in my mouth. If prior to 2010 my complaint about the rotation was a lack of dominant aces, the complaint now seems to be a complaint consistent pitching beyond our two aces. I'd like to have my cake and eat it too please.
Forgive me for keeping things brief this weekend. Game time is 3:10pm.
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Well that's the whole thing with Ottavino
He has ground ball stuff, excactly like Dave likes it. Heavy two-seamer, quick breaking offspeed pitches. The problem is that he’s leaving everything up.
He’s all potential right now, but he’s still better than Soup.
For having groundball stuff, Ottavino's never been a pitcher
who generates significantly more than the average # of groundballs. I’m not sure I agree with your assessment of what kind of pitcher he is. We’ve been enamored of Ottavino’s stuff since 2006 but he’s not shown good command until this season and he seems to have reverted upon reaching the bigs.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
i think you missed the point of what I was saying
He has groundball stuff, but he’s leaving the ball up, so he’s not getting groundballs like he should. At least that’s what I get from watching him.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not convinced he is better than Suppan.
Be nice if he was. But he is walking batters at a higher rate. Batters are putting up a Higher OPS against him; and his Groundball/flyball ratio isn’t as good.
Ottavino may turn out to be a much better pitcher over the next few years. But I’m not convinced he will be the better pitcher over the next four starts.
The "heavy two-seamer" remark
is that based on pitch f/x? He’s never been able to get that low in the zone. There was some public back and forth a few years ago about how he was having to learn a two-seamer rather than the four-seamer he was used to (this was right dirng the particularly charged Anthony Reyes era so it was memorable). So I’m not sure I agree with the remark on his stuff.
I like Ottavino because he’s got strikeout stuff. Personally, I don’t think it’s just a location problem. I don’t think he has stuff that’s particularly adept at generating groundballs.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
The other thing that stands out is the lack of sliders that Ottavino is throwing
His slider was superb in the minors. He threw about 5 yesterday looking at Brooks Baseball. He threw about 15-20 changeups. This seems completely backwards too me. I like Ottavino the fastball-slider pitcher who throws some changeups to keep lefties off-balance. I’m not so hot on Ottavino the fastball-changeup guy.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
It is from Pitch f/x
His fastball is much more of a sinker than it is a fourseamer. In his debut he threw fastballs then sliders first. Maybe Brooks was misclassifying things.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 13, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on the clusters
I don’t think they’re misclassifying sliders (or at least I’m ignoring the ones they are). I’ve never seen Ottavino’s fastball and thought sinker but perhaps that’s changed over recent months — it certainly has been reflected in his results.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I broke down his first start pretty well
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/5/31/1494103/adam-ottavinos-debut-and-oh-my-god#comments
72 fastballs, 15 sliders, 8 changeups. Fastball was closer to a sinker than a fourseam fastball in terms of movement. Changeup and slider both had good drop to them. Using my similarity scores he compares favorably to a lot of ground ball pitchers with his stuff.
If you look at the location charts you can clearly see why he didn’t get a lot of groundballs.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 13, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
No I remember that but there are two things that stick out to me
1) I’ll accept for a moment your premise that it’s “closer to a sinker than a fourseam fastball”, though that’s a rather lukewarm endorsement. My problem is that he’s never been able to get that pitch low in the zone. Even in the minors that was a problem. So I’m left to wonder if there’s something that mechanically prevents him from getting both the sink AND the location. If it’s purely a command issue, that’s believable too as that’s long been an issue. I’m admittedly skeptical of analysis (based on 72 fastballs) that tells me he should be getting groundballs when he’s never, in 4 years, been a groundball pitcher.
2) The changeup looks like garbage to me. I hate it and I think it’s impacting his slider. At the least, I’d prefer that it be his third pitch rather than his second (as it has been in recent starts).
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Cards need help fast
I’d be signing up Smoltz?Martinez as well to start giving us some backend of the rotation depth. I’m concerned that Penny may be gone for a while an Garcia might not last the whole year.
Just win
I still think the Cards should try and pick up
Zach Duke from Pittsburgh, or Chris Resop from the braves.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
It's the offense
AP & Holliday – 4 for 35 on the road trip, and swinging at bad pitches out of the zone.
Skip & Boog continue to be negative contributors.
Injuries to Freese and Raz have taken out two consistent hitters.
I would like to see: 1) Miles released, 2) Skip on the bench, 3) Tyler Greene up. Or 4) start making a play for one MIF bat (K. Johnson or Uggla).
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
We don't need a new bat
we need the ones we’ve got to start hitting
Does anyone seriously think that Alberto Pujoles is going hit less than .300 all year?
Holliday should see an upswing in stats too
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd say that is an open question
i think his recognition issue may be physical, which will not cure itself, and is not a slump in the traditional sense
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
can you say more about this?
what do you mean, his eyes are bad? His brains ability to discriminate has gone wacky?
"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw." ~ Bob Gibson
Wainwright and Carp then roll out the tarp
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose and sometime it rains.
not the tarp!!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Vince weeps
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
speaking of prospects, anyone have impressions of the all-Cardinals draftee college game?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes.
Zach Cox is another Brett Wallace, a big heavy guy who can hit the hell out of the ball.
Seth Blair is another Jess Todd, a kid with awesome stuff, but last night totally ran out of gas in the fourth against AZ State. He’s going to be a set-up, middle reliever guy — but a good one.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 13, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Cox certainly looks like Walrus II.
And he loves the ball down in the zone (which is a pretty common lefty trait, I suppose, so no surprise there).
Blair’s breaking stuff looked nice and was around 92-94 with his fastball. Things certainly came apart in the 4th, though.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
On an unrelated note:
I liked what I heard from Morgan Ensberg in the booth. Seemed a notch above most color guys.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
have we adpoted him yet, or did VEB scare him away?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
^adopted
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What's a gdm?
Anyway, I’d sure like to hear him replace Al on Cards broadcasts, former allegiances aside. Or at least give him a shot on Sunday games. Never happen, though.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i liked eibner better than either
what was the rap on him?
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
did cox play second, and how did he look in the field?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He DH'd
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He's had some back problem recently
So they were probably keeping him off the field to prevent aggravating it
Hopefully he's not Todd.
I heard Blair could dial it up to mid-nineties and even higher over short stretches. Todd didn’t have that ability (though he had a decent slider), which is why Todd is a quad AAAA pitcher/bullpen filler, IMO.
Also, Cox can actually play 2B or 3B (and is not as heavy as Wallace), so IMO he’s immdiately a better prospect than Wallace, at least for this for this team. (BTW, I loved Wallace’s bat but soured on him quickly after watching him take infield one time. He looked “turrible.”)
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
Yay?
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
At least that's one dead arm we don't have to worry about re-aquiring.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 13, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Drayton McLane being a champion
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
They've already
found a “flaw” in Suppan’s delivery.
And it sounds like the Cards on are on the hook for his buyout (2 million) next year.
Pass the hat?
Let me guess
Dave Duncan already discovered that he’s “tipping pitches.”
Well, Suppan’s first start is going to be against Seattle, a team hitting 27th in the major leagues in average and 26th in OBP. So there’s that, at least.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
guess again!
Duncan and Mason spoke with Suppan about an erosion in his delivery that could help him recover some of the control he has in the lower reaches of the strike zone.
it was carbon-copy Smoltz entrance interview last year
except Soup seemed a touch emo.
you could show the segments side-by-side from FSM, and they’d be identical.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
that explains it!
CG is amazing.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 13, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Here it is:
“Suppan was released by the Brewers on June 7 with more than $10 million remaining on the final year of his contract worth $12.5 million. The Cardinals will only have to pay a prorated portion of the Major League minimum: $400,000 for the remainder of this season, but there’s a $12.75 million option with a $2 million buyout for 2011 that the Cardinals will be responsible for. "
by jim of beam on Jun 13, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Now
If Soup is on the roster at the end of the year, they’d be on the hook…and if that happens, something either went miraculously right, or horribly wrong.
by jim of beam on Jun 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I still can't get over that contract
To me, its worse than the Zito or Wells contracts. Simply because those guys were or had the potential to be elite guys. Suppan never was particularly extraordinary but $12.5million option is just insane, that would put him near the top 20 highest paid pitchers (per annum).
Thanks Cot’s Contracts
Another interesting fact: Holliday’s contract makes him the 16th best paid player ever, 5th highest for outfielders per annum. I am still happy with this contract.
The Brewers saw themselves as having a window for 2007-2008...
Their pitching sucked and they needed a league average guy. I think they badly overpaid (obviously) and I think the cost outweighed any long-term benefit… but I give them credit for identifying their window and going all in.
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
That just can't be right...
He was released and signed to an entirely new contract by the Cardinals. I’m reading what you’re reading but I just don’t believe it. We didn’t “acquire” Jeff Suppan and his contract from the Brewers. He was released and we signed him to a new contract as a free agent.
If we’re paying Jeff Suppan $2.4 million for four months of work I will eat my laptop for breakfast tomorrow.
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
yeah, this
unless the cardinals reached an agreement with him to pay him $2MM next year or something
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
My British friend just sent me this joke
.
New BP CEO announced
Robert Green (England Goalkeeper) has been announced as the new BP chief. My source said “he’s an expert on spillages and his eagerness to help america in their difficult situation won’t go unnoticed”.
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 13, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ahahahaha
Poor guy, must be getting killed in England.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I would imagine that guy couldn't go back to England for awhile if they don't make it out of group play somehow
Not afraid to nitpick
Indeed.
England isn’t as bad as some places in that regard, but yeah, a nice vacation in the US for 6 months might work :).
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I've heard so many stories about what Iraq used to do
under Saddam Hussein. That freaks the crap out of me. They apparently tortured their players after losing the World Cup.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I think they had their feet caned
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 15, 2010 7:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Pujols is now hitting
296/368/540 in non-IBB plate appearances.
Anybody says he’s okay is deluding themselves…
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
How'd you find that, out of curiosity?
I wonder how he usually does in non-IBB situations the last few years.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Just deduct IBBs from his totals...
hits + walks + hbps – IBBs / plate appearances.
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
You'd need to deduct IBBs from his PAs too, right?
by jd is legend on Jun 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why you are the 4th smartest person from Alabama
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
calculate his career average with IBB's removed and come back to us
by vivaelpujols on Jun 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
His career obp without IBBs is 406 (vs 426 w/IBBs)
This year it’s 368 vs 410. Never before have his IBBs shored up his numbers like they have this year.
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
2007 he didn't get ibb'ed a lot - 22 times
his obp was .429 overall and .409 without the ibb’s – just a tick above his career averages of .426 and .406. it was mostly his slugging that was down that year – .568 (this year is at .540)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's still over .900 OPS
sure he can do better, but it’s not THAT bad
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
cards are falling fast out of the picture
right now they do not look like any sort of playoff team, and Albert is a part of it, very average most o fthe year
by Rickfansince76 on Jun 13, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions
How do the Mets look?
Falling fast out of the picture?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
because, y'know
there’s only 3 weeks left in the season
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
that's a bit hyperbolic.
As evilfrog said, they’re 1 1/2 out.
And they’re 1 1/2 out with Pujols and Holliday underperforming, no production coming from our MIF and two of our starters being injured.
If we have any type of progression to the mean for those players, our offense will pick up, and assuming Penny is able to come back at some point, we’ll at the very least, be fighting for a spot by the end of the season.
I know everyone’s concerned about Pujols, but I’d be surprised if he doesn’t at least match his career-worst numbers from his sophomore season this season, and those are still pretty monstrously good numbers.
wow!
now this is very very early in the season to be saying that
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand that you must be frusted recently
But cheer up. The season is long, and every team has slumps or struggles when injuries hit. Maybe I am saying this mostly to cheer myself up. It’s been tough to watch these almost come backs. I give them credit for fighting ’till the last at bat.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Strasburg picks up where he left off.. 8 ks in a row now.
throwing 100 on his first 2 fastballs too.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
... 9 Ks in a row.
this kid is unbelievable.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
8 in a row as in continuing from last game
i was being unintentionally misleading
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
yeah, i noticed that now
oh well, i still wanted to watch this game
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
huh?
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
haha ok
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Who has the game?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I always forget about TBS on Sundays. Thanks.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Dunn just crushed Santana at the plate.
It was like he got hit by a car.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
Adam Dunn definitely ranks up there as one of those guys
you really, really don’t want barreling down on you.
Also, how the hell are they playing a game in an AL park, and NOT using Dunn as the DH?
Morons.
yeah.. instead they take their best defensive player out of the game and DH him
although with all fairness he probably needs a rest… but still.. very odd
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Yeah, I mean...
can’t really argue with getting a dude some rest, and still keeping his bat in lineup, I guess. Just seems that after losing a few games to the Nats, and having a guy on the mount you have a vested interest in….keeping your best defense behind him is a good idea.
Adam Dunn rocks
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I am sorry but I just don't like him
A few years ago, there was a game at Busch where the Cards were totally beating up on the Reds, and I think Pujols and someone else had curtain calls for multiple homers. Then Dunn gave himself a curtain call after a HR just to mock us. I was annoyed.
There is no denying that he is country strong.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Is that the top prospect catcher the Indians just called up?
Welcome to the bigs, kid
by jd is legend on Jun 13, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Ya
What a welcome right. Dunn has like 6 inches and 60 pounds on the kid. Dunn didn’t even see him until the last second. Santana thought the ball was coming home but they threw to first instead. Dunn looks down the line and just raises his forearm as he sees santana. The kid went down like a sack of potatoes and Dunn was just standing over him.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
There is a monsoon in the quad cities today your not gonna see a baseball game today!
Hope you made it to the game yesterday it was gorgeous despite the humidity
Greinke
is just about the personification of a one-year wonder.
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 13, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
reclamation project for dunc
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I find it hard to believe his ERA will be around 4 after the season is over
he’s just a better pitcher than that. his FIP is 3.91, I think he can still improve on that pretty easily
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. His stuff just hasn't been as sharp this season, though.
He’s striking batters out at a lower rate, and isn’t generating the same amount of ground balls, either.
Yeah, and he was also quite good in 2007 and 2008.
Obviously last year was his best so far, but it’s not like he completely came from out of nowhere.
He just finished up a complete game 5-hitter with 0 BB and 12 K (did give up 3 ER and two HR to Joey Votto). We’re now one game back of the Reds….
by BTown Birds fan on Jun 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
But I’d have trouble calling 92 a ‘changeup’ with a straight face, myself.
man
that breaking ball is something else.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Strasburg's ability to keep a good
GB/FO rate will be the real key for him, I suspect. As hard as he throws, balls in the air might…tend to travel.
8 pitch innings as batters beat his stuff into the ground definitely have to be encouraging for the Nats.
Meh
The same logic that balls in the air go a long way doesn’t really work for Ubaldo and he’s in Coors
Not afraid to nitpick
catcher out to talk to strasburg
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
he apparently needs a lot of mound maintenance
they keep having to put more dirt on the pitcher’s mound
*now with more veterany veteranness and a higher grit factor
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
another trivia question
about rookie pitchers wher ankiel is the answer =(
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Sadface :P.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Thank god Miles is on this team
Craig’s .326/.383/.486 sucks because it’s not in the big leagues.
Not afraid to nitpick
When this current generation
of old-time managers retires for good, I wouldn’t want to be an Aaron Miles or a Jeff Suppan. Because then I’d be unemployed.
I long for the day when the label “Proven Veteran” will be as corrosive as “Crack Whore.”
by Michael_68_1999 on Jun 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The next gen of managers
…is being trained by the current grandpa generation. The only openly SABR minded manager that I can think of, Manny Acta, has done rather terribly at two places (though he’s had some lousy teams to work with) so I don’t see an army of Actites taking over managing anytime soon.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 13, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
March of The Actites
this summer on the Discovery Channel.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 14, 2010 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Craig needs AB's in the minors
That’s the logic, I suppose. If i were Craig I’d be really quite ticked off. The big club is using Aaron Miles at third base in pinches. Are you really telling me, Cardinals FO, that Allen Craig couldn’t be a better sometimes third baseman than Aaron Freaking Miles? Craig isn’t the second coming of Albert Pujols obviously. He’s probably a utility type guy who can fill in at either corner in the IF or OF at best. What are hundreds of minor league at bats really going to do for the guy? If he’s good enough to play, get him up here and let him be a bench guy and let Aaron Miles grow a sweet goatee or something.
I get the feeling that if you’re a young player for the Cardinals and aren’t good enough to be a full time player, than you can’t be a bench guy. It’s either primary POSITIONX player, or you’re going to rot in Memphis.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Traveling Nats fans!
HFS®!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions
Baby steps.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Virginia,
there is a gamethread.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 13, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
next thing you'll tell me
Troy Glaus exists.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
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