a simple desultory phillipic (or how i was jeff suppan'd into submission)
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT
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if you aren't familiar with the original, this won't make any sense. the original was, itself, a sendup of "subterranean homesick blues." does a spoof of a spoof make the outcome sincere, like a double negative?
i've been stavinoha'd, i been larry bowa'd
i've been mark derosa'd, even mendoza'd
i been todd and kip'd and maroth'd till i'm dying
i been flores-brothered, one after another
because of the handedness they got from their mother
that's the hand you use - well, never mind.
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i've been larry borowski'd, been al hrabovsky'd
well, i've had all the strauss that i can take
i been garcia'd and wainwright'd
i need a towel cause i'm too excited
i've just discovered chris carpenter's taking the mound
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i knew a man, fastball so slow
didn't have nothing to throw
not the same as boggs or lynn
or maybe even brendan ryan
he'll just get hit
cause when you say replacement
well, you don't mean just for walters - wherever he is
the man ain't got no upside
but it's alright, tone, guess SOMEBODY'S got to throw . . . .
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i been rolen'd, pujols'd, dj tools'd
oh, dan haren, won't you please come home
i've been danupped, leach'd, and red baroned
i been randy'd, jeff'd, and even aaron'd
someone please tell me how tyler's hitting in triple A
(i've lost my plate discipline, albert)
'tis now the witching time of summer, when the designated for assignment rolls gape
and the brewers breathe out rotation members to this league . . . .
this week has been hard on the birdos community. most of what should be said has been. but i wanted to pull out some info to put this all in perspective.
let's take a look at what we have, what the projections are, and what we could have used instead.
jeff suppan, late of a club on which he was considered worse than chris narveson, bush, parra, etc., was projected to be almost exactly replacement value over a season - one run over replacement value and a park-neutral ERA of 5.49.
the cardinals by contrast have numerous players who project better than replacement value in a starting role: boggs, hill (!), hawksworth, walters, the now-departed ben jukich, and lance lynn. now, the fact that the projection tags hill to be among the best replacement options may say something about the limitations of projections, and there's nothing wrong with taking a look at what you are actually seeing, and making a decision contrary to the projections (contrary to what people say about spreadsheet readers). regarding the limitations of projections, it's also worth noting that CHONE likes walters and garcia to have the same value this year.
boggs and the hawk are probably hard to pull out of the bullpen and stretch out. lynn, some might say, would have his development harmed by a stint in the majors; i have mixed feelings. he's still sorting things out in AAA. his K rate is still way too low (6.56 k/9) and he's walking almost four people a game. another not-crazy option is to put pj out there again; sure, he's not a great pitcher, but neither is jeff suppan. projection systems like them both the same, basically. the difference is that walters might have some kind of long-term benefit to the club and might even get better, while suppan is (we hope) just a rental for a month at most, who is 35 and unlikely to improve.
randy winn is an interesting case. CHONE likes him to be -16 runs/150 on offense and +8 on defense. on the other hand, CHONE also likes craig to be worth +5 on offense and -3 on defense; jon jay -8 on offense and +11 on defense. either one is probably a better option in the field, though winn does play CF and bat right-handed some of the time. it's still not clear that he gives us more value that allen craig in that circumstance, with ryan ludwick taking center on colby's off days.
aaron miles is another interesting case. CHONE likes aaron to be -27 on offense, and -1 on defense at second. tyler greene to be -18 on offense and 0 on defense at short. that's almost a win difference over a full season, though CHONE does not assume 600 PAs for everybody. CHONE assumes ~350 PA's for miles and ~400 PA's for tyler. basically, for every 100 PA's miles gets, we're losing 2 runs, per the projections.
obviously, everybody is free to quibble with the projections, and as noted above, they are not perfect. this is more a jumping off point than a final answer. but i think these are good benchmarks to start from.
also, someone has a sense of humor. included on the CHONE site for cardinal hitters:
Mark McGwire (DH): -27 runs on offense, 0 runs defense
| 0.154 | 0.287 | 0.338 |
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Truly fun post.
I hadn’t heard that for years but it brought me back to freshman year in college. Jesus I’m old! Anyway, I do think it’s a little bit too bad that Suppan’s signing is generating more outrage than Miles and Winn. I used to want Randy Winn many years ago but Jon Jay had just started to show he belonged. He’s more exciting and, I suspect, would be a more valuable player. Greene didn’t get enough of a chance to show he could contribute this year and now he’s on a tear at Memphis. What’s he got that Miles doesn’t? Let’s see, youth, power, speed, upside, can play short, a future, throwing arm, excitement and the fact that he’s not Miles. That’s all.
I actually don’t mind the Suppan signing that much because Walters and Hawksworth are simply unacceptable, Ottavino is actually needed as the fourth starter right now and noboby else seemed to be available. Soup was never a really good pitcher but Dunc made him decent. If he could temporarily make him almost decent again this will be a worthwhile move. And really, he never had much in the first place so how much could he have lost?
Honest question...
Would you rather have on the bench….Miles and Stav or Greene and McGwire
by I miss Jack Buck on Jun 12, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions
Greene and Mac without his contacts in.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Greene and Mac.
Or Greene and a nice kid in a wheelchair. At least I’d feel good about my baseball team if they put some wheelchair bound Cardinals fan on the roster and let him bat once in a game.
For some reason, I feel like that kid might be better at baseball than Aaron Miles anyway.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Jun 12, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's face it
If we’re going to put people with a severe disability for playing baseball on the field twice a week, it might as well be a feel good, Pete Gray* type of story right?
*Pete Gray: Worth more wins over 200 AB’s than Aaron Miles is projected to be worth over 400 AB’s. WITH ONE ARM.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Not to defend Stav...
but if he went 14 for 48 with two home runs he’d be the talk of baseball.
DFA Miles, Call up Cox
gonna have to go with greene and mcgwire
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
McGwire's projection has pretty nice isolated patience and power
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm not familiar with the original
but this makes perfect sense.
Excellent.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions
+1
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
fish for the Fish
comment: This is obviously a very imaginative artist because he/she drew a stadium filled with fans
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So, they're gonna have 1.5" acrylic panels, with Lexan in front of that?
This seems very silly… Lexan is incredibly susceptible to scratches. They’re gonna be ripping foul balls off it, the front row people are gonna be knocking on it…which in itself is gonna drive the fish to insanity.
It seems incredibly gimmicky to me
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
those fish are dead, man.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Scott Stapp's voice will be the killing blow.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm moving to OR
in a few weeks, and as much as i hate not seeing baseball..with the rate this team is going signing old has been cards I’m ok with it…
when do they go after Jimmy again or maybe Weava, Miguel Cairo?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Think Lou Brock's still available?
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
you can always watch the mariners!
i’d take the cardinals any day.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i lived out west for a bit...i take no
baseball over mariners, but i love seeing Ichiro in person
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Lot of complaining the last three days
About guys who won’t have any role in determining whether we win the division and won’t see any PT in the playoffs. My bigger concern is that Holliday is not giving us any production and Schu is clearly not the future at second. I am excited about Ryan starting to show signs of life which should allow Lopez to move to 2B. Mr Freeze is the real thing and Garcia is still pitching well. I’d like to see the Cards pick up a starter at the deadline — maybe a Ludwick for a free agent starter trade (on the assumption that Holliday starts to produce). Oh and Pujols is still looking like a legit triple crown threat.
All in all, I’m pretty happy that a team with 3 rookies in the rotation are even in the division with a team that will not be there at the end of the year. I just want to see us put more space between us and Chicago. I think they are going to make a run if Ramirez gets healthy
Just win
holliday is not the only star not living up to his potential
color me unconcerned with either of them. they both have very long track records of being elite hitters. i still think skip is having bad luck. adjust his batted ball luck to his career norms and he’s still around average (though, still down from his career norm) at a .324 wOBA
i’m more concerned with boog. wOBA is only .269 and even when you adjust it for luck on batted balls, he’s only coming in just north of .300. and we all thought our revolving door at SS had been slammed shut. wrist? maybe?
anyway, barring injury or other unforeseen complications, holliday and pujols are gonna come around and mash. want to adjust them for batted ball luck? okay:
matty – .400 wOBA
alberty – .426 wOBA
familiar!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
sorry
what i meant to say is, “too busy counting his money!”
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Pujols is looking like a triple crown threat?
He is down to .300 and is 1 for his last 15. He is like 60 points behind Ethier.
wow,
totally missed that. albert is not having a good year by albert standards. may be luck related, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
If luck related is him swinging at some really terrible pitches out of the zone,
then it’s luck related.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
fair point
partially lucj related perhaps. he’s not having the same batted ball luck, but that could easily be because he’s not hitting the ball as hard
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
True.
He’s just not getting good swings. I think he’s swinging with the same stroke, same power behind it, but he’s not judging the position of the ball in the zone very well. a lot of GBs as well as making contact with pitches in the O-zone and putting them weakly into play. What could be construed as bad luck, I would put part of it into bad swings. I still think that something is not right with his eyesight. Colby had a marked improvement after his trip to the eye doctor.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
MLB Trade Rumors...
… says Boston is in desperate need of an outfielder. If we must trade Ludwick (and I wish they wouldn’t), what does Boston have that might be a fair trade for Mr. von Crushtoven?
think they traded him to CLE for v-mart already.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Jun 12, 2010 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they totally over-value him
and FWIW I don’t think he’s going to be that great. I’d swap luddy for him, though.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 14, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know that Stav, Miles, Suppan, or whoever, won't have any role in determining whether we win the division...
the lead is .5 games and every run counts. I see no point in giving away runs by keeping inferior players on the roster and giving them playing time.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 12, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank you...
…though I hate how any electronica music is lumped into “techno”.
Gimme some House, breakbeat, and a hint of trance, and I’m a hella-happy man.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
yeah, that's what i was talking about
“for the most part” because i like a small amount of IDM
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Also, Electronic/Industrial Rock...
…LOVE me some Celldweller
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
yeah,
i’m not counting stuff like einsturzende neubauten when i say trchno
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
was just listening to haus der luge earlier today
needless to say, i left the glowsticks in my camping pack.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 12, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
techno's been just about extinct since the mid-90's
it’s pretty telling when someone still uses the term.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 12, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
it's always difficult to tell what they are talking about when they say techno
I think of the 4 on the floor 90s rave stuff. then you have the “electronica” insurge, with bands like Chemical Bros. and the Prodigy getting popular.
I think the really good stuff is often called idm or braindance: Aphex Twin, Autechre, etc or downtempo/cinematic stuff like Amon Tobin, etc
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer the term "annoying music that loops over and over again"
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
you speak the truth, sir
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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football starting.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and it's over.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wow, they just never, ever, ever stop with the little trumpets.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
is it not very Astros-like?
I want to like them, but I keep thinking Fat Elvis will walk in at any moment.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Big difference.
They don’t have to pipe the horns through the PA to make it seems louder.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
they are honestly destroying the entire experience
They are so freaking annoying
by FlimtotheFlam on Jun 12, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It is annoying, but slightly less the more I watch.
I’m sure the beginning of the second half they’ll bother me anew.
Regression, bitches.
and it's back
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Heh.
“One of the softest goals you’ll ever see…”
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
this guy's saying he made the equivalent of a Little League fail.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think his Mickey Mouse gloves betrayed him.
He and Skip can commiserate.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
the twits couch it in baseball terms
dgoold The ruling from the official scorer: Passed Ball. #usa #eng #worldcup 25 minutes ago via web
JohnMarecek "@MLB: Unearned goal. #worldcup"—-But, should be earned since E was his 5 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this camera work is awful
I have never seen so many wasted slo-mo shots in my life.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
There's no time because so few stoppages.
I actually think they’ve done a pretty good job.
Regression, bitches.
no, simple stuff
like tracking plays and people.
they cut to something to show us a play, and it’s not even on camera. they put non-play reaction shots on slo-mo, which makes no sense.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah i hated the slo-mo stuff
the south african broadcast editor was FAR too in love with those. It’s like those shows where the editor just discovers some exciting new wipe or something and hideously over-uses it. Ugh. Show some proper replays.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 14, 2010 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions
johnson's got blood on his face
a big disgrace.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 12, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sadly they're kicking the ball all over the place.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Jun 12, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
those poor guys
play a great match, and they have to talk to Jeremy Schaap
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
one thing i don't like about this EVO
it’s very difficult to get album art on on my albums on my phone
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i never thought i would miss itunes
doubletwist makes an attempt to be itunes for android, but it doesn’t allow you to add album art. you can with WMP, but sometimes i transfer it over with album art showing in WMP and the album art just doesn’t show up on the phone. sometimes it works. i can’t find any pattern
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
the programmers for doubletwist are
probably taking suggestions.
Have you joined an android forum yet? Perhaps posing the question there could lead to a suggestion.
Regression, bitches.
nah,
i googled around and found a few suggestions. none of which i’ve tried yet
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
yeah, it looks nice
pretty much an EVO minus 4G and plus a physical keyboard from what i can tell. definitely looks like the elite class of physical keyboard smartphones
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
If the EVO was any longer, it wouldn't fit into my pockets.
Girls pants just don’t have deep pockets, but I’m able to wedge it in there.
Regression, bitches.
the size isn't really an issue
i don’t think i would want it any bigger, but i also wouldn’t wanna go back to that tiny iphone screen
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
yeah, it's glorious
anticipating froyo with flash 10.1 so i can watch mlb.tv on it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Have either of you rooted yet?
I’m probably going to root my Droid tonight. I really want to overclock it.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I have not.
I probably will at some point, but I’m still getting used to this thing. It’s a big change from BlackBerry.
Regression, bitches.
nah
i don’t really see that much of a benefit yet. i guess i could go ahead and install android 2.2, but it’s not that big of a deal. this isn’t an iphone. i don’t have to root/jailbreak to do the most important things i use my phone for. like tethering. or changing the background lol
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
You can't change wallpaper on the iPhone without root? Wow.
The Droid only runs at 500MHz and it’s noticeable sometimes. Apparently some folks are running them up to 1GHz. Bumping up even to 800MHz should help a bunch.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i actually don't think the battery life is that bad
i’ve been using it pretty heavily since i got it and i’m getting 10 hours per charge
of course that’s with sense disabled, 4G usually disabled and constantly killing unnecessary tasks running in the background with advanced task killer
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I haven't measured the time I'm getting.
If I’m at home, I’m constantly around a charger. Plus I have a car charger, so it’s always getting a little boost.
Regression, bitches.
Instead of using AtBat app?
I wonder how it will hold up…
I hope they actually get us Froyo before year’s end.
Regression, bitches.
i don't think android at bat has video
or that’s the impression i got from the reviews of the app on the android market
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Not yet
I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it happens soonish.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
reading through draft lists
someone get Goold an image stabilizer
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I see in that pic...
… that McGwire is finally wearing his #25 jersey. I wonder what finally got him out of the windbreaker?
Joe Strauss claims it was him.
http://twitter.com/JoeStrauss/status/15824545614
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i just wonder why people care
i found out readin strauss’ chat the other day that a lot of people were talking about this. uh, who gives a fuck?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Not Chris Carpenter.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Jun 12, 2010 3:58 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Suppan, Miles, Winn
I am actually ok with the Suppan signing. I think, for the Cards at least, he will turn out much better than expected by most projections. I am much less enthusiastic about Miles and I think the Randy Winn signing was just silly.
The St. Louis Cardinals- 11 time World Champions!
You would rank taking a guy with a .466 OPS last year who was a replacement player above taking a useful player?
Randy Winn last year in his worst year in awhile was nearly as good as Miles’ career year.
Not afraid to nitpick
stupid social life
I missed nearly all of Sauce Time. it’s a few measly pitches, and MLB does not deign to put it online.
all the copies mysteriously burn up….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So hot
People are probably dropping like flies out there at the Breast Cancer walk. I have been working outside since 6am detailing cars and lost like 10lbs in water weight.
It took some time and thought to create this.
As Bob Dylan fan I enjoyed this a lot.
Good Job, Tom S.
Baseball first, teams second, players third, agents last.
Except that...
… “A Simple Desultory Philippic” is a Simon and Garfunkel song. Off the “Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme” album, IIRC.
of course it was!
I was thinking of something else.
I’m embarrassed!
Baseball first, teams second, players third, agents last.
by Dave Pendleton on Jun 13, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
wow. The Expendables.
hahahaha, I just might see this for the nostalgia.
see the cast list.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Big McLargeHuge!
Smoke Manmuscle!
Beat Punchbeef!
Dolph Lundgren!
Roll Fizzlebeef!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR Logic
Last time Aaron Miles was a Cardinal, he was good
Last time Jeff Suppan was a Cardinal, he was good
Therefore if Aaron Miles becomes a Cardinal, he will be good
Therefore if Jeff Suppan becomes a Cardinal, he will be good
heh
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
OT (for people who need extra hd space)
Dell.com is offering $45 500gb hard drives, I just ordered one
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
that's a good deal
but i’m kind of broke right now and more in the market for a TB
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
that's the same ext hd i have
embarrassingly, for more money than that at the time. it does have the tendency to produce a lot of heat and needs an ac power source to run. also, not the best if you need to transport it. other than that, no complaints so far.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 12, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
already got a 250gb passport, which is very portable. you can just throw it in your pocket
I kind of just need a bigger one at home to archive some music projects and video on
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
then i say go for it
i’m actually buying another one right now. $45 + free shipping is a great for that amount of memory.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Jun 12, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I already ordered one
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
that deal is crazy
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
some notes about last night's game
i will make a fan post with pictures at the end of the weekend.
- i thought jaime was getting squeezed quite a bit, at least in comparison to the calls lopez was getting.
- motte hit 97 on pretty much every pitch, according to the chase field radar gun. you could tell the dbacks hitters were not prepared for that.
- when boog hit the homerun, it really sounded like the whole stadium was cheering, it was really, really loud. very cool.
- there were a TON of cards fans there – more than usual. it would have been hard to see me.
- i laughed my ass off when albert kept spreading dirt after his strikeout (in the first?). hilarious.
- the crowd booed the shit out of laroche when he didn’t score in the 9th. it was the loudest i have heard chase field in the last few years.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
.
- the crowd booed the shit out of laroche when he didn’t score in the 9th. it was the loudest i have heard chase field in the last few years.
That’s pretty sad. A completely meaningless run, who cares?
Not afraid to nitpick
well he failed to meaningfully score... twice, if I recall it correctly.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, the first time it was a close call
but the second time…i couldn’t believe the cardinals’ good fortune on that.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
well to be fair, they didnt know it was meaningless at the time
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Should have
Down by 3 in the 9th inning with 2 outs, his baserunning there was totally irrelevant.
Not afraid to nitpick
yep, the only run that mattered was in the batter's box
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
am lookin' forward to it
meant to ask earlier… did you catch Boog trying to do a Tony impression, with Tony’s glasses?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that sums it up nicely, tom
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions
wat lineup
freese
rasmus
pujols
holliday
ludwick
schumaker
ryan
molina
ottavino
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
c'mon tony... really?
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's stache is back!
Aaron Miles, Tony? Really?
david freese
lead off hitter extraordinaire
at least he’s in the lineup
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
tony is just plain weird
although a .311/.380/.820 leadoff hitter is nice
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Freese has an .820 OPS I believe
just looked it up on fangraphs
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
what did you think it was?
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was SLG
usually that’s what the third stat is
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
ah
I’ve seen it done various ways I guess, but it would make more sense that way
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
an .820 slg would be pretty nice to watch.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
bonds
.863 the year he hit 73. broke 800 another year, and had a 799.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I have a hard time getting past the fact that Bonds was a prima donna.
But he could knock the shit out of a baseball.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a problem with the roids
but i wish albert would learn bonds patience during those mega years when he was either getting walked or seeing only one pitch per at-bat to hit and invariably hitting it hard. of course albert is getting more to hit, but i’ve never seen him miss before on meatballs – and platefuls of them, too. you have to feast on the mistakes, and he’s not, plus chasing, chasing, always chasing.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That's different but more than fine with me
Putting a decent hitter at #1 > putting a bad hitter at #1
Not afraid to nitpick
OK, that's ... interesting.
At least Freese is back.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
with this particular group, freese is as good of an option to lead off as anyone else.
would have been interesting to see colby there, but it seems like TLR might be tinkering with making colby-pujols-holliday-ludwick a staple.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
oh shit
I am staying in tonight
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
guys we should just be happy that
a) boog gets to play at all. i figured since he hit a HR yesterday, he would sit today.
b) all of our IF is positioned properly. this is fantastic. and rare.
c) no miles, no winn.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Plus
Since Lopez is better than Miles at every aspect of the game he’ll get the PH call before Miles…….I think.
Not afraid to nitpick
aaron miles is our worst hitter.
and that’s saying a lot
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
me too but skip played well yesterday
i thought maybe skip had better numbers against haren, but no:
floppy: 1-6
skip: 1-7
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
good chance he gets double-switched in
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no doubt
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the same line-up as last night's...
…with Freese swapped in for Lopez.
I'm pro Colby leadoff
speed + ultra high OBP.
How doesn’t it make sense?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I don''t think Colby likes hitting leadoff, for one
I saw something awhile back when he hit leadoff or those few games indicating he wasn’t comfortable there for whatever reason.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Jun 12, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, he said that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
interesting
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I want to see how Ottavino does too
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Is Freese going to get more than one AB
Lopex to sub for him in the bottom of the first?
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
wOBA fun
-they are tied with the Cubs and Phillies in the middle of the pack in MLB in wOBA
Cards wOBA leaders
1. Pujols .402
2. Rasmus .401
3. Ludwick .370
4. Holliday .367
5. Freese .364
Ludwick is 2nd to Pujols in wRC, Rasmus 4th
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
basically Ludwick and Holliday have been very similar hitters so far
Ludwick is 2.2 WAR and Holliday is 2.0 WAR. probably mainly because Ludwick is the best defensive RF in the game imo
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I may take that back
JD Drew and Ichiro are probably better than Luddy in RF defense, so he’s just best in the NL. still though, him and Holliday are very similar players this season
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
And what's the price tag diff?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe i should have said
And what’s the true talent level diff?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
True talent level doesn't mean a helluva lot if you don't play at that level.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
whatever man
i can’t bring myself to freak about the fact that a career .400 wOBA hitter has put up a .367 wOBA in two months.
a career .400 wOBA who is a career slow starter, i should say. color me unconcerned. feel free to color yourself as you like, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Current WAR pace
Ludwick: 5.8
Holliday: 5.3
Ichiro: 5.3
Drew: 3.9
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
ur dun it wrong
you’re supposed to be making cracks about him counting his money
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Mean wOBA over the past three years
Holliday: .397
Drew: .384
Ludwick: .372
Ichiro: .358
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i would hope holliday would top that list
he should top a list of outfielders no matter who is included, i’d think, since he’s being paid to be atop the list
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he should top the list
because his past success suggests that he is an elite hitter. his salaray has nothing to do with it. so annoying
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
how is that?
his past success got him the salary. the cards signed him to his contract, with that salary, to be at or near the top of the list of elite hitters for many years going forward, much like soriano and lee.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how would you feel
if lopez performed at the WAR/$ value he’s being paid? that’s less than 1 WAR. you’d be disappointer, not because of how much money he’s making. you’d be disappointed because he’s not living up to his true talent level (even if he’s damn close). salary is just an excuse to complain about a player who isn’t living up to expectations. it’s pretty much to the point of the P-D forums when it comes to the subject of matt holliday’s contract. it is what it is and it’s not going to change so how about we talk about what he’s doing on the field. y’know, baseball. this aint a business and finance blog
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
there's business involved in every trade
free agent signing, draft pick and signing, etc.
lopex is a bad example because we knew we were getting a 5mil guy for 1 or 2. i would be disappointed if he didn’t produce like a 5mil guy, because those are the expectations – we got a steal because his agent f’ed up or whatever.
yes, holliday isn’t living up to expectations by a long shot, and we can talk about what he’s doing on the field, but i thought you brought up the money above. also, expectations are tied to the contract – if the FO gives him that deal, they have certain expectations.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if i brought up the money, it was in sarcasm
holliday isn’t living up to expectations by a long shot
the guy is rocking a .370 wOBA and on pace for his career average WAR. and that’s if he maintains his current luck on batted balls which is not likely
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
that's great
but the expectations are for him to be a run-producer. to many, he isn’t living up to that, by a long shot.
if he would just hit his career averages with RISP there would be no complaints, even with that 90pt gap of OPS between his numbers (-60) and the rest of the league (+30), because the front office must have known this going in.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i bet the front office also knows
the random nature of batting environments. there’s nothing to suggest that RISP numbers are predictive and everything to suggest it’s random variation. it sucks that he’s not getting hits with RISP. the reason why that sucks is not the size of his paycheck
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
it sucks for us as fans
and that may or may not have anything to do with his paycheck. but it also sucks for the team and front office, and the size of his paycheck does have something to do with that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i don't know how
the front office allocates resources toward production. they are business and finance as much or more so as baseball. why wouldn’t they be concerned about an asset, especially a big one, that is under-producing? it’s an investment they have to hold for seven years. cashing out, cutting loses, reinvesting that money in something else – these are not options.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
because they know
that production with RISP isn’t predictive. they know to look at stats that are more predictive and to look at large samples
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
his whole career thus far
is not a large enough sample for RISP?
how many more years before we can look at it?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You win pj.
I won’t say another derogatory thing about Holliday again. I’m sure that he’ll be just fine and will start hitting again. And I look forward to the next 6.5 years of him playing LF for us.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 12, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Check this out:
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/6/6/1503834/top-position-players-of-the-past
The first comment has Holliday as the 7th best position player over the last 3 years, and he’s the best OFer by far. The next closest OFer is Jayson Werth, and he’s 11 positions lower than Holliday.
Regression, bitches.
damn
i knew i loved werth, but didn’t realize he was ranked that high. he was a part-time player in 2007, and in 2008 didn’t even crack 500 ab’s. he’d be way up there if extrapolated out to 600 ab’s per season. i was almost going to write earlier that he was the most productive outfielder, but that was more opinion – good to see these numbers. he had just over 1200 ab’s compared to holliday’s well over 1700 ab’s – a whole season werth. oh well, we don’t have money to sign him, even though it’d be half of holliday’s money.
surprised to see youk ahead of holliday, and pedroia virtually tied. i wouldn’t mind those contracts at all. i guess it just shows you have to develop and keep your own guys. plus, both those sox are very trade-able, whereas holliday is not, without the cards eating salary.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Well those contract situations are vastly different.
As for Werth, he was a late bloomer. I like him very much, but in many ways he’s not as good as Holliday. In other ways, he’s better. Still, not surprising that you’re giving the 7th best position player no love.
Regression, bitches.
eh, i'm just pissed at the guy
and haven’t warmed to him yet, i suppose.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
SLG leaders
Rasmus
Pujols
Ludwick
Winn’er
Holliday
Chief Justice
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
is anyone going to make a youtube video of tom's post?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dun dun dun
dgoold Freese batting leadoff in return to lineup. #stlcards Brain trust mtg now to discuss Suppan. 8 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So, the White Sox dugout looks pretty loose.
I wish they’d light up Silva, though.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions
Carlos Silva does not believe in regression.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
red sox had a guy hit a granny in his first career at-bat
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Daniel Nava...
they also have Jeremy Hermida on that team, too. Interesting…
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'Hi, I'm Mr. Heisenberg, and if you don't chew Big Red, FUCK YOU!'
first career pitch seen, in fact
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Pierre has seen film on Joey Slides.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
Castro had a chance to get him on the knee too, but whiffed.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
i was going to ask that. listening to santo on radio doing his “oh man…oh man!” while the other guy described it and it sounded exactly like joey slides.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yep, virtually the same play. He was clearly safe.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
dun dun hatesamerica
Fox_Sports_MW Cardinals impressed with Suppan’s side session saying his arm looked healthy. Plan is to sign him early next week and put him in rotation. 17 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
If we're going to sign Suppan,
we better sign or callup some long relievers….we’re gonna need it.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
'Hi, I'm Mr. Heisenberg, and if you don't chew Big Red, FUCK YOU!'
"So, Jeff, looks like your right arm is still attached.
Welcome back to the Cardinals."
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I understand...
… Suppan may get the start on Tuesday at home vs. Seattle. Monday’s game (on ESPN, BTW) is Wainwright, with Garcia going on Wednesday. Looks like the Mariners will go with Vargas, Snell, and Rowland-Smith.
FUCK
Guess who is going on Tuesday and was really really excited until now.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Also, I had seen Penny lose three times in a row so far this year.
So maybe I’m cursed or something? I enjoy having the opportunity to go to so many games and all but this is ridiculous.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
brentz is signing with red sox for less than 900k
vitek took 1.36 mil. aren’t they considered equal talents to cox – law had brentz somewhere in the 6-10 range, and i think cox and vitek were right around in there too. can’t see how cox gets more than 1.8 to 2.2.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
cox was considered the best college bat
and best bat other than harper
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
how much did walrus get then?
he was considered the best bat too.
cox may have been considered the best bat, but he, vitek, and brentz were all rated as pretty equal overall talents, i believe.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no idea
i can’t even remember what shelby got. don’t know where to find it either
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Miller
$2.875 million
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sticking with 1.8-2.2 then for cox
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
cool,
then we should have plenty of money to give wilson $3-4MM
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
if his asking price is truly 3 as has been suggested
they should definitely pay him if they think as highly of him as they did shelby.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
If baseball people thought Cox was likely to take this price
He would have gone much earlier in the draft. That said, I hope Cox comes to his senses on his quote. I think he will, he seems willing to sign.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
maybe
but i’m not convinced signability was the only issue. some teams just liked other guys better – after all, he might be best player available in terms of most major-league ready, but talent-wise, there were guys with more upside – they are just bigger gambles, especially with most being high-schoolers.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You and I are in the same camp on Cox
but I would be very surprised if there was a club out there who wouldn’t crave Cox’s major league ready bat at the right price. Cox is basically Brett Wallace right now… he could go straight to AAA. The Royals picked Cristian Colon with the fourth pick who is the same type of pick without the signability issues.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i think colon was a terrible pick
but the royals may have very well picked him because they thought he was the best player available. i don’t know how they rated him, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’d take colon over cox for the same price.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Colon doesn't have Cox's bat
he does have a glove that’s supposed to stick at second base, probably, but he’s probably only going to be an average hitter at best.
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 14, 2010 5:42 AM EDT up reply actions
cubs rallying
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no longer
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
if the sox sweep them there is going to be hell to pay for someone in cubland
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Already lost it, I guess.
That’s a shame.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
someone, or more than one, will lose a job
or players will be traded off.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Mo:
Penny- He’s improving, but not as quick as first estimated. Another 3 weeks until he’s back. Should start throwing this week.
Lohse- Too soon to tell. Hopefully not long term.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions
Draft- Thrilled to get Cox, not expecting to get him.
Suppan- I came in late, but I think he said that they’re waiting until they need the 5th starter to ink the deal.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
the loss in production
Penny 3.5 tERA, 3.44 FIP, 1.1 WAR in 9 games
Lohse 3.87 tERA, 3.75 FIP, .7 WAR in 9 games
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Brendan:
I feel good about the at bats I’ve been taking.
Shannon- “Are you superstitious?”
Boog- “Very! I’ve tried everything- mustache, pants up, pants down, changing jerseys”
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions
well, bannister is pitching for kc
phillips hit a homer in the first, and gomes then hit a 3-run job. 4-0 after 1 inning. but now top second kc still batting off cueto and have plated 5.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
On Motte:
Cat- Are you in control?
Motte- Not really, no.
Cat- No cursing, though?
Motte- No. No cursing.
Skip- “He’s in his own world out there. He says he doesn’t cuss. I disagree.”
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:51 PM EDT reply actions
He doesn't realize he's cursing
He has no idea what he’s saying
by jd is legend on Jun 13, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
kc 5, cincy 4 in the 2nd
"having stavinoha and winn on the roster seem like brilliant decisions compared to miles and suppan.... let that settle in" -prophetjohn
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 12, 2010 7:54 PM EDT reply actions
Freese:
On leadoff- “I’m excited! Something different.” Says he’s probably never batted lead off. “I might bunt!” (not really)
Ankle- 100%, I’m ready.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions
Cat on Soup:
Duncan has already detected some issues in his delivery.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions
For future unfortunate situations.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
Your beard is weird, your 'stache is trash!
That poor bastard may not be able to go home again.
Hell, they might not let him back in the country.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. Can't see it at work
but I’m guessing a robert green pic?
Still bitching to contact.
by Felonius_Monk on Jun 14, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember what happened to the Colombian back
who scored an own goal in ’94 vs. USA?
Andres Escobar. Not pretty.
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Colombia is a dangerous place no doubt.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
Your beard is weird, your 'stache is trash!
Well hell,
no one told me there was a fucking gamethread.
Meh.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 12, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions
haha, yeah, i've got both open
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
Your beard is weird, your 'stache is trash!
merit badge for your fine work.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
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