Game 52 Overflow
by azruavatar on May 31, 2010 7:44 PM EDT
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PrintHit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit.
That's 14 if I count correctly.
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is this the Robot Fighting League?
I thought this was the overflow.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I smirk every time I see somebody else post Robot Fighting League
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
'Mr. Gibson's here!'
Why, cause he’s black Horton? You’re so racist!
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
it's the guys in the truck
they’re on a roll.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Free Allen Craig!
Free Jason LaRue!
Clear the bench, Tony
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
wasn't craig announced?
he should get boog in there. probably won’t see a lot of time this series.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
not according to GD
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
and then it turns out he wasn't
which is a pisser, because apparently tony didn’t want any more runs again. then, instead of with bases juiced, they let craig bat against a freak lefty with a screwball, something he’s probably not exactly used to.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's like a british sitcom
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
like coupling?
or the brittish office?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
that's the one.
they would have to introduce themselves as Mr. Hawksworth and Mr. Boggs.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
good heavens. my mistake.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Frankie, Trever, Dennys on one side by the JH. Boggs trapped with Mottie on the other side.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
HFS Batman!!!!
I leave for a little bit and the offense goes f’in nuts! That is so cool!
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 31, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, Freese had some nice plays and hits and stuff.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I always miss the good stuff.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 31, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what she said?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I'll have to take your word for it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 31, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to dis the Reds
But they have played 33 games against the NL Central, and are 21-12 in them. Cards, by comparison, are 13-11.
eff'n Astros
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Was looking at the standings/records the other day
At the time, the Astro wins over the Cards represented more than 20% of their win total. Why we suck vs. the AAA Houston club is a mystery.
Yadi: The fastest of all the Molina brothers.
we have to trade for
Bud Norris
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Bud Norris
has a secret video of TLR kicking a puppy . . .
Yadi: The fastest of all the Molina brothers.
ONE UP IN THE LOSS COLUMN!!!!
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
ok David Freese for what we were expecting is awesome
"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw." ~ Bob Gibson
"Rasmus... who is on pace to strike out over 175 times this year... has had a good afternoon."
- Horton.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
cant say something good about someone without first
totally breaking balls.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
further proof
“that ball headed to center field… uh, 3rd base…”
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
shut up rick
(you too, al)
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Have I mentioned my distaste for horton?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
But Reynolds is on pace
to strike out 224 times. Just sayin’.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 1, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
into CF Ricky?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions
i think they gave him one there, LOL
right in his glove
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That was his equivalent of pouring some out for his dead homeys...
aka MiniDunc.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I prefer cows on skates...
at least a puppy would look adorable doing it…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
GD says hit
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
EVERYBODY has a hit....including PH's
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
No mo'...No mo'.
/PhilCollins
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Add to the list of Songs I don't need stuck in my head
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I don't care any mo-oo-oh
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
By contrast, the only 2 not to score?
Pujols and Holliday. hehehe
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
at first i read that
’let’s go 20’, and i briefly shuttered.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
Not a Lou Brock fan?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
stav on deck for you, vep
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
skip's beard now looks like ludwick's.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and now craig in
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's
the homer off of hoffman, trust me.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
I see why your scared but...
I was just saying that the no runs scored curse for a good hitting team that we suffered has passed to philly and now we are back to normal.
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Fun fact: 12 runs, 16 hits, 10 BB
no HRs
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
It's like Hot tube Time Machine
. . . back to the 80’s and Whitey Herzog’s team of jack rabbits.
Yadi: The fastest of all the Molina brothers.
Minus the stolen bases and 150 degree astroturf
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
So i flipped over to the Reds broadcast...
And there was Thom Brennaman, as always, describing everything as if it were a monumental, world-changing occurrence.
a WALK to SKIP SCHUMAKER.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Tom Brennamen
Was the perfect announcer for Albert crushing Lidge just for that reason
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 31, 2010 8:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Alright I believe it's time for some puck
I bid you all a fond farewell.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
well
i’m sad that i can’t really watch this game
no internet besides cell phone internet
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i tried
but the 3G here is not what it is in austin, unfortunately
might just have to wait until wednesday
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
How much longer before TLR gets disillusioned with Stav?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 31, 2010 7:59 PM EDT reply actions
when he thinks miles is ready
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ooooohhhhhh he didn't really mean it GOB
"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw." ~ Bob Gibson
About 100 more games.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
when stav is no longer a cardinal
see ‘ankiel, rick’.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
id rather stav do it now than when it counts
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Not true
Hawksworth has zero hits today.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Correction: Stav is the only player today to have a BA of .000
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Craig, Boog, Stav all in
Trever pitching
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So apparently Craig was NOT announced...
Wow Tony, just WOW.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
here come the scrubs
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 8:01 PM EDT reply actions
Most runs since Carp's GS game last October?
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
note: also off cinci
:P
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
I wish we could hit against kip wells everyday...
by CodyG on May 31, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don't know about that one.
He had a good WAR
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on May 31, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
High-larious!
"A good catcher is the quarterback, the carburetor, the lead dog, the pulse taker, the traffic cop and sometimes a lot of unprintable things, but no team gets very far without one." – Miller Huggins
Most runs since yesterday.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
UGH stav can't hit
this team is screwed. trade Pujols for prospects.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
Craig @ 1B!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Which means we'll see him bat later this inning!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
wrong time to be freed.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
have to admit i like stubbs talent
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
seems to be happening a lot this season
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
This guy looks like the Yankee slugger from Major Leagues.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on May 31, 2010 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
zomg THE GUYS IN THE TRUCK.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i would not guess his name is "Corky"
Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 31, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Last anem not Reemuss
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 31, 2010 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*name
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 31, 2010 8:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
surprisingly
and oddly, it is.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
he's probably already taken care of that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
maybe there's a "boy named sue" element to the equation
Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 31, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
For such a sweet stache
how have I never heard of a Corky Miller?
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
10th year?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
making Boog feel inadequate?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Just got off work, got to watch the game there until the rain delay
Now I can comment And Im damn happy to see that we’ve scored more than 1 run today
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 31, 2010 8:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
25 or 6 to 4
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Check yo'self.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
i saw
herrera pitch last year in cincy, and i can’t believe he’s a pitcher in the bigs. 82 mph fastball. i forgot he threw a screwball.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
craig
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Allen Craig is "on to the next one, on to the next one...now freeeeeze"
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Corky flew out to Corky(Cody?)!
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 31, 2010 8:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
c'mon Allen Craig
make it happen or you’ll spend your life in AAA
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
how many innings they let him go?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
where did this guy come from?
he was ok last year, and then all of a sudden…
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
he's been pretty noticeable since he came up in the pen
he was better than ok last year.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He was very good last year and added 2 MPH to his already ridiculous fastball and better command
by vivaelpujols on May 31, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions
the trifecta!
Although I’m inclined to think some of it is skill given the quality of his stuff.
by vivaelpujols on May 31, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
And on my fantasy team
Yay me
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 31, 2010 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Can anything go Craig's way?
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 31, 2010 8:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
A bus to Memphis?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
a lifetime in AAA?
happened to a friend of mine. catcher who spent 9 or so years in the minors when simba was the team’s primary catcher. similar to bryan anderson right now with yadi.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
anderson should be up before 9 yrs.
like maybe next year if he does ok this.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Crash Davis?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Everyone stared in awe when I screamed "MATTHEW PERRY"
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 31, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Aynd here comes Laynce.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
it's the beard, i bet.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
if he's our worst RP
we’ve got a pretty good pen
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
Yeah,,,Boggs has got some heat. How does he not shut everyone down?
Same thing with Hawk they both have greaty stuff. Look foward to seeing them step it up as the year progresses
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DIVISION TYING WINNER!
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
WINNER!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
thats a winner!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 8:22 PM EDT reply actions
hm i must have missed it
now if these guys got their command under control, this bullpen would be so epic
You are now blinking manually o.O
by hr on May 31, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Miles
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"who will hit .100 first" is an entirely different question
by DanUpBaby on May 31, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
we've developed a lot of flame throwers recently and there's quite a few in the minors
YP
Motte
Boggs
Hawk
Otta
Reifer
Sanchez
Samuel
Miller
/missing anyone else that throws 95+?
Yadi.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 31, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
As much as people might diss our bullpen
I think the organization should get some praise for building it entirely from our system and it having some pretty good upside.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
sorry, i didn't mean to say entirely
i meant that has been the trend lately
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
I guess what bothers me the most is high-priced free agent relievers
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
francisco cordero $12M this year and $12 more next year
bahahahaha
Krod
11.5 next two years and a 17.5M option
Mariano
15M
lidge 11.5 for next two years and 12.5 option
and he's not even a closer
just a set-up man!!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
just saying he's the most expensive set-up man in history
since you brought him up
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
What's Billy Wagner making?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
i never hear about the guy in kc anymore
he was one, along with bell, i thought made the most sense to upgrade the club
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they're also incredibly cheap compared to most relievers.
Soria and Bell both earn about 4M this year.their trade value is too high for the FO to look into.
fuentes is pretty pricey
nathan too, but he was worth it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
does larue not have a hit on the season?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
batting .167
4 for 24
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
homer?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
1 HR 3 RBI
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh sorry
was looking at yahoo’s boxscore and they had his season avg at .000
knew that couldnt be right
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
and now i realize that with all the players in the game
i must have gone crosseyed and thought miller’s avg was larues
nvm
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
LaRue is 59th on the career HBP list!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Awesome night...
Cards plow the Reds and my favorite movie is on comedy central…BeerFest.
La Hiem!
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I am about to post something which may be disturbing to certain readers.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...
BJRains Crowd in left chanting “We love Stavi!” and he gives them a tip of the cap…must be a 12-4 game in the ninth. 6 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's a little early.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
at least it wasn't the wave.
Albert's grand slam, 7/3/09
@zoomzoomj88
Boog's reviving the 'stache!!! Woohoo!
like the wave that popped up during one of Jaime's deliveries?
at least there was a substantial lead this time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
free beer in left today?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
oh forgot to liveblog
when Holliday came through with the bases loaded, Albert at third punched the air, like yeah. that’s what i’m talkin’ about!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
or he could be saying, yes, now I don't have to kill you
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that would be a truly sunk cost -
6-foot sunk.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Washington....5th place NL East...
…would be 3rd in the NL Central.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Goddamn, that ....thing....gets me every time.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
oh, I can play that game too
Braves, 1st Place in NL East…
… would be 3rd in the NL Central
Albert Pujols is ridiculous.
wow, braves are in first?
i don’t even look at that stuff for awhile, but that’s surprising.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
very underrated team those royals
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Just for good measure....who got the win?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Reds are currently 11-15 against .500+ teams...
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Haven't like 80% of their games
Been against Houston and Pittsburgh?
by mattisnotfrench on May 31, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like it
9 vs PIT, 6 left
6 vs HOU, 9 left
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I went and checked.
They’re a total of 13-5 against Houston, Pittsburgh and Milwaukee. And that includes getting swept by Pittsburgh in April. Their schedule has been absolutely weak lately, with their last seven series coming against the Pirates (twice!), Astros, Brewers, Indians, Braves and Cards.
by mattisnotfrench on May 31, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
STL is 6-6 versus the same three
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Cubs are 7-8 vs same three
1-5 vs PIT
5-1 vs MIL
1-2 vs HOU
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
plus some travel quirks thrown in
hasn’t been an easy schedule.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
One of the best scenes ever is coming up on comedy central..
at least on the east coast…
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jose molina just picked a ray off first
chitown – toronto announcers (buck martinez and ?) having a conversation for you – baseball needs more athletes, they say, talking about crawford and his basketball scholarship to ucla and football scholarship (option qb) to oklahoma. then they talk about heyward’s athleticism.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i think the classic definition of athleticism differs from that of brute strength.
if you’re just talking about brute strength, Mo Vaughan had it in spades. Does that make him an athlete?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
no, not to me or the jays announcers
but to chitown he’s athletic because he’s an athlete by dint of the fact he plays a sport. same with any bowler.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if you have a skillset in a sport
then you are an athlete. if you are doing it more as a casual thing to do, then not really
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
fighter pilots are athletes, right?
that’s the ultimate sport, and they have reaction times off the charts.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I guess it could be debatable that is a sport
but I don’t think many would say it is
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
on memorial day it has to be
i’m calling it for my uncle, who spent 3 years as POW after being shot down.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think it would depend on what you define "sport" as
but perhaps this is a debate for another blog. actually, it is a debate for another blog, no politics!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
no religion!!! whatever that has to do with anything, lol.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I am finding both politics and religion to be less and less interesting as I age
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i just never see them here
except after the word “no”. how is a pow political? we best not mention that spanish inquisition again…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I meant that is fighter piloting a sport
could make a political turn. I’m done.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
ok
that would be some stretch though. didn’t even know ww2 was touchy around here.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
...we don't have fighter pilots now?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not a sport I guess is what I was saying
personally I don’t care about talking about the stuff, but it is not allowed in the site rules thing.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
no, i mean ww2
i’m just missing stuff, now. been sleepy for hours.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i missed that part of the rules i suppose
i had a long chat here last year with a few people about aircraft, fighter pilots, what’s on the horizon, etc. are we really debating ww2 politically?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no
I’d have to explain my thoughts in another forum
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
i wasn't talking about now
but we do, to some extent, though only to some extent because there are better ways now.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
fighter pilots are pretty ordinary guys
I was on a softball team with 11 F-16 pilots- flight test guys, so absolute best-of-the-best, and we went 2-14 against a bunch of civilian desk jockeys. In a weak league.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
see my two paragraphs below
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard someone on ESPN radio this morning refer to John Kruk as an "athlete"
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 31, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
he came up last night
people define it differently – all that’s important i guess is that each knows what the other means by the term when having a discussion.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he is an athlete
if you go by the actual definition of athlete
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i think we are going more by the sports definition of athlete
not by a dictionary definition – just so there is no confusion. no one disputes that by your definition those people are athletic – we are just talking about something else is all. so there really is no argument.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I just cannot believe we are still talking about this after last night's exhaustive debate.
You can read it in any tone you like.
I didn't bring it up
but I think my paragraphs below are worth reading
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
no worries
no one need get involved who doesn’t want to be. there is no time-limit on discussion that i know of, especially when it is not contentious. i mentioned it to begin with today because we had just had that long debate and then watching the jays-rays game today they began talking about it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
maybe I sparked a nationwide dialog!
one can dream…
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
athleticism is a set of skills allowing you to play a sport
if you play it well, you have good or even great athleticism. if you play poorly, you probably need to quit and are not really an athlete. if you play at league average or better, you’re athleticism is adequate. no need to be a cross training athlete or whatever, since this would be a bit of a novelty.
also, athleticism is not entirely physical. it incorporates muscle memory and other mental skills, which has lead some to write articles on whether or not an athlete is a genius, because their brain is extra adapted or evolved to execute hand eye coordination, quick reflexes, and specified skills that other people cannot do. so athleticism has more to do with an evolved set of motor skills and reflexes mixed with years of learned muscle memory programming through repeated tasks.
/my two cents
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting note on the mental aspect of athleticism. Still, I worked as a sports writer for a spell, and I was astounded by the depth of the shallowness of some of the players I interviewed.
They looked upon thought they way vampires look upon crosses. As an aside, the brotherhood of oysters tended to have short careers.
I once led a profile with, " ______ can do anything with a basketball but autograph it." The lead was spiked. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I believe they were challenging the idea of genius
and that it could be a brain evolved or specialized in quick thought and execution of tasks through the body… I like to think of martial arts as an example. you need to be pure of mind perhaps even moreso than pure of body. also, it is more important that you train in whatever skill you want to excel at to match your raw talent. this could be someone that doesn’t “look” athletic, is all I was saying. sure, there are some that are cross training and are working on a more broad skillset, but I do think that this wide variety of skills could lead away from specialization.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think it matters at all how you look
sandoval is much more athletic than almost anyone who looks like him. you cannot judge athleticism by looks alone – it is a good indicator, but is not the be-all, end-all of the discussion.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
very true
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I am inclined to think that mediocre athletes can maximize their skills with intelligent design training.
Have had a long-running debate about the point of no return for intensive training and workout routines. . . Your thoughts?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
not sure what you mean
but they definitely have to be born with quick reflexes or they could train until they are blue in the face and it wouldn’t make a difference
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
some "sports" require no quick reflexes
golf, bowling, billiards…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they do require muscle memory and practice
as I said before, this is all contingent on which sport we are talking about, what position the athlete is playing, etc.
anyway, I am thoroughly tired of dissecting the idea. talk about something else below. I’m sure we can think of something more interesting.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Thinking of athletes that are aware of all manner of related factors - diet, best hours to train, effective traing cycles - as opposed to simply trying to lift ever-increasing amounts of weight and running ever greater distances.
You are of course spot on about hopeless cases trying to train into the HOF.
Ain’t going to happen. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
there are so many factors really
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
ha
it’s a single-mindedness that is outside the realm of ordinary everydayness, though, and since it is something i delve into often, and have experienced and continue to help young “athletes” with, i am a bit biased, perhaps.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
And...6 K in 2 IP
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
ethier is back
haren goes tomorrow and his era in the 5’s
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
What time did the game start today? Christ I missed a very good win.
How did Garcia look? Hard to tell from the PD and even the VEB threads. PJ tomorrow?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
think it was around 3:20 central
there was an hour rain delay and both starters came back – jaime was decent, all things considered (some defensive lapses too) – he hit and ran the bases well
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Thanks, odd game time. I'm not used to that or seeing Garcia surrender 2 first inning runs.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
could've possibly been 1
missed it, but apparently colby was snoozing. colby woke up after that. and i hope you caught that, that the rain delay came after i think 3 innings, so jaime did a good job coming back out.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah saw the rain delay. What happend to Colby? Saw that TLR was critical - again
Is Colby headed for the doggy domain of Anthony Reyes, Scott Rolen and Boog?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
well, he sat him yesterday
colby apparently didn’t get the message until after the top of the first, but then he was good. what did tony say?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
As per the PD, Tony taking him to task for the high K rate. "Hurting the team if he (CR) doesn't put the ball in play. . ."
Readers pointing that others have high strikeout totals that do not garner TLR’s (public) censor. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
who?
has high strikeout totals other than Colby Rasmus?
(at the very least, anybody you mention isn’t even in his territory of Ks, so its pretty weird to say other players should be called out)
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
No one is as high as Colby, but Ryan Ludwick has struck out a fair amount.
And even with Luddy’s great season thus far, Colby’s been worth more offensively.
You can read it in any tone you like.
vin scully just says ubaldo 10-1 with 0.70 era after today
threw 120 pitches in shutout, and timmeh threw 120 in 5.2
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Can only hope to avoid Jiminez this year. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Sweet, but all things considered I'd rather:
1. Trade for him – say the Memphis roster
2. Have him face the Reds and Cubs about five times each
3. Avoid him altogether. .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Better still. . . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
yeah, was he a latin signing?
dude reminded me of pedro from day 1 out of the pen, but he has a better frame and work ethic, so i think he’ll be around in top form awhile.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he probably ran 5 miles afterward instead of 6
dude knows how to use his legs when pitching. waino typically throws that many, and ubaldo is fitter, i’d say.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
does 1997-2003 not count as "awhile"?
ubaldo’s peripherals are sub-carpenter; pedro struck out 11 and walked two per nine innings while allowing 0.6 home runs per nine in some of the most inflated offensive years of all time for seven years (ERA+ 213.)
pedro is the greatest pitcher ever, imo
but it was “brief”, as you note, and i think ubaldo can go well into his 30’s with his dominance. i doubt there is a bigger fan of pedro here than i.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
was he dominant in his 30's?
perhaps i missed something – notice i put quotes around brief? i’m talking nolan ryan material here.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
right
and nolan ryan wasn’t, and i’m thinking ubaldo of that ilk. hell, otherwise as good as pedro once was, he would’ve won 300 too.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yes, i believe you and others are missing the point
or just being blindly difficult. ubaldo is a physical specimen unlike pedro, and i like his chances of longer dominance better. i am not comparing ubaldo to ryan – we are discussing pedro vs. ubaldo physically going forward.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
And I think that a pitcher like Pedro is more likely to be productive in the long future than a pitcher like Jimenez
Pedro had much better command and breaking stuff, so he’s able maintain great numbers if he loses velocity. Jimenez does not have good command and has to rely on batter’s not being able to touch his 97 MPH fastball with sick movement. Most pitchers will lose a lot of velocity in their careers, and Jimenez will be hurt much more by losing velocity than a guy like Pedro (in Lincecum, as we see this year).
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Lincecum has been a lot more about command than velo this year
But yeah, at this point if he drops more to 86-92 instead of his now 88-94, it’s gonna be awfully tough to dominate.
Not afraid to nitpick
My point was that Lincecum has already lost 3 MPH on his fastball since he debuted, but his performance hasn't dropped at all
Because he has such good command and deception. Jimenez is not that type of pitcher.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Lincecum is a one of a kind pitcher
with a stride that is 120% of his height when he goes he will go fast
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
do you think that Lincecum will fall off a cliff or decline slowly?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
Decline slowly
Because he’s already gone through the major hurdle that all pitchers go throw (loss in velocity) and has come out the other side untouched.
this year hasn't been stellar
really good, but not that upper echelon stuff.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He has a 2.65 FIP and a 2.95 xFIP, both under his career averages
He’s striking out batters at a career rate (although only slightly more than last year). The only stat that’s worse for him is ERA, and we all know that’s a pretty unstable stat. A difference of .5 points of ERA (this year compared to last) is not very signficant, espcially when you look at the other stats.
he also walked four and looked
really hittable by his standards
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
he has in his last couple maybe it is a glitch
maybe a trend how many bad starts before it is an issue?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
so the guy doesn't walk 5 batters in
a game all of last year now does it three consecutive starts and it isn’t a trend yet?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
last 4, tomcat
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how do they compare to last year?
all i know is his era is over 3 and he has walked 5 or more in his last 4 starts, and baserunners are perfect on him this season – 4 steals last game before today, and today helton took third on him standing but the batter fouled the ball. and when we played them, we didn’t allow him to walk us, but he was not “on”.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you are a really lazy pedant
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
against us he wasn't good
but we didn’t hit silva, so…
he’s way off this year, and it’s been commented on much here long before today – as i said, he is aware, i guess, and is tinkering with those mechanics which supposedly made him impervious to injury, wildness, etc.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hagainst us, he had a lot of help from the umpires
That was one of the more upsetting games of the year, for me.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Yeah, I thought we worked him pretty well
Loaded a few baserunners but couldn’t do anything with them.
but ERA is important too, as you said at red reporter:
“Yep, that 1.32 ERA is just terrible”
by vivaelpujols on May 31
you can’t defend jaime with era and discount it for other pitchers.
people talk about bias in scouts but what about in sabermetricians – is it really as cold and analytical as it’s made out to be?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Sure ERA is important
It’s just very unstable. A difference of .5 runs of ERA (which is what Lincecum is experiencing this year) is NOT significant, because ERA has many factors outside the pitchers control.
It’s especially not significant when you look at his FIP and xFIP, which are below his career averages.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
he is working on changing his motion/mechanics
i brought this up today, because i wonder what his father thinks. ubaldo will, like pedro, develop whatever he needs to continue to dominate. he’s that kind of talent, imo. pedro continued to develop, as did michael jordan. i think ubaldo will too. that is why when pedro lost velocity he could still dominate. and i also think ubaldo has more command than you assert.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
in some lines of work
one must be a fortune-teller.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's had half a season of ERA-driven "dominance"
comparing him to the best pitcher ever and the one with the most incomparable longevity is just asking for people to be difficult.
i don't really mind
people being difficult, just if they are willfully misinterpreting and constantly asking you to explain. only reason i brought that up. but hey, i’ve been behind this guy for a couple years now, so i’m not really gonna give up on him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
basically you’re saying a tall muscular ubaldo can sustain a longer peak than a short skinny pedro. I get it, it makes sense.
Yes
There is no denying that Jimenez has been outstanding this year, and his stuff has been incredible. He’s averaging around 97 MPH with his fastball, which is just ridiculous.
But no one can sustain averaging 97 for that long just due to injury. I can say with high confidence that Jimenez will be sitting at around 94-95 in a couple of years, if he is lucky. and Jiminez throwing 94-95 is not a sub 1 ERA pitcher, but rather a 3.5-4 ERA pitcher.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
but he isn't a strikeout pitcher either
he is a great athlete who has four plus pitches and considers himself a ground-ball pitcher so there is no reason to think he couldn’t remain well above league average into his late thirties(see Halladay, Roy)
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
I'm not saying he's a strikeout pitcher
That’s irrelevent to my point. I’m saying, given his command, deception and arsenal of offspeed pitches, he is a guy who will be hurt much more by a drop in velocity than other pitchers.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
assuming his comand won't increase with a drop in velocity
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
Command doesn't really "increase"
At least not nearly at the rate that stuff declines. Jimenez has consistently been below average at throwing strikes. The only reason his walk rate has gone down is that batters are swinging at more pitches out of the strike zone because of the quality of his stuff.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
right Randy Johnson says you are full of it
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
so you are saying declining BB/9
is a sign that he is not becoming a more polished pitcher rather that hitters are getting dumber?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
is that true of Carpenter as well?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
Could you please refrain from using
such crazy technical jargon? I mean the amazing amount of wonky technical details you are using to back up this point is really bogging down the discussion
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
I mean he said that
Carpenter has always had better control than Jimenez
How am I going to compete with that? How can I ever even hope to break that kind of analysis down?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
or other pitches develop
which they will with this kid. he’s a very special talent who is insanely driven.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Halladay has much, much, much better command than Jimenez and better offspeed pitchers, so that is not a good comparison
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
halladay walked people all over the place before his third season
and chris carpenter did the same until he was two years older than ubaldo is now, don’t act like control is day one thing for these guys. Pedro had BB/9 rates of 4.8 and 3.1 in his first 3 years as a starter(granted he was 21)
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
Carpenter never had as bad of control as Jimenez
His career high in walk rate was 4.26 and in his first 4 years, those numbers were 4.09, 3.14, 2.88 and 4.26.
Jimenez, on the other hand, has a career average walk rate of 3.93 and a career high of 3.00 so far.
an average colored by a 4.7 in his rookie year
had a 3.5 last year 3.0 this year carpenter had a 4.3 BB/9 as a 25 year old almost one more per game than Ubalo had at the same age
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
I was thinking Tewksbury or Tudor
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
we all know that though, cody
you don’t go there.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't see why I can't go there
it doesn’t take away from the fact that he was one of the most dominant pitchers alive.
just kidding
see jimenez, ubaldo.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ok batman
or clemsongirl, or buzzkillington, or whoever you are. i anticipated you being around from an early post today out-of-the-blue from another valued member of veb.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The CG thing is mighty
interesting
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
Nolan Ryan had a career low 3.3 BB/9
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
but he was really good at other things
like striking out batters and keeping the ball in the park. His LOB% I would guess is pretty high…if I knew where to find it.
Even clemens had a 4.3 year
Nolan Ryan had several years over six, Randy Johnson had one that was almost 7, Curt Schilling had a 4.7 as a 24 yr old, Smoltz had years of 3.5 and 3.7 in his mid twenties, I think most power pitchers have some issues with BBs
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
to me it's just tough to look at numbers
in a vacuum. i don’t know if he’s walking the opposing pitcher, or pujols, or in what situations. it gives you a general overview, but to take it without context, without watching the games, can be tomfoolery, if you will. are those bb’s every other inning, or 3 in one inning – this is a “personality” trait that is overlooked. was he walking guys with a 4-run lead, or in scoreless games and being careful with a certain hitter – especially in coors – is that no longer a factor?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
walks may be more troublesome when
you can’t miss bats, but i’m not sure what the numbers say on that. seems to me you can make a case against anyone if that’s what you set out to do, or vice versa. there may not be bias in the numbers, but there certainly can be in the case that one wants to make.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the guy hasn't slipped yet and i remember dave cameron saying in his 09
preview that he wasn’t sure ubaldo could repeat his 08 performance
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
fwiw, the san fran color guy
not sure who it is but an ex-mlb’er, said ubaldo has the best stuff in the NL, bar none, and this in a game timmeh is pitching.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I agree
Timmy’s stuff hasn’t been great for a couple of years. His command and deception on the other hand…
just saying these guys are the same age
and i’ll take ubaldo going forward – not only in their upcoming prime, but long beyond.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't get your assertion that Ubaldo will not be able to be
deceptive or develop good command because he had a 3.5 BB/9 last year as a 25 yr old but Timmeh had a 3.33BB/9 as a 24 yr old and is an excellent command pitcher
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
so issuing 85 walks in 216 innings of work is wild
but 84 walks in 227 innings is elite command? that seems like a hell of a slim margin
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
i'm watching the game now
i always watch his performances, usually not live but on archive. i’ve seen every one of his games this year. he’s not on my team, and it’s sensitive here on that, so i try not to bring it up too much (i’ve even tried to avoid the ely talk now), but if anyone can say he’s not the first pitcher you would take in an open draft to start a team, then i don’t know what to say. who would be desirable above him – strasburg?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Are we talking pure talent or age and contract status also?
I would take Halladay above Jimenez, Greinke too. I would put Josh Johnson and Verlander and Wainwright on a similar level.
just talking right now
as things stand talent- and age-wise. if you could have any of those pitchers for the next 10 years at the same price, who would you take? greinke would be my second choice, though barely over josh johnson.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no to mention Ubaldo is under club control
through 2014 for less than 22 million
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
and i disagree
once pedro’s stuff slipped, he adapted. ubaldo is every bit mentally driven as pedro, and physically more so.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
His xFip must be awful that HR/9 rate is unsustainabe!!!
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
where is the coors field factor?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Guys who strikeout a lot and hit for a lot of power will tend to have a higher BABIP than normal because when they put the ball in play, they put it in play hard
I’ll bet you 100 ebucks it will be closer to .330 than to .300.
Besides, even if his BABIP regresses he’s still a .350 wOBA hitter (wOBAr) and that’s assuming no drop in his strikeout rate. A .350 wOBA hitter with plus defense in center is awesome.
Why is putting the ball in play important?
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Saw your Red baiting, and Brendanukkah's interesting (if uncalled-for)
reaction. Don’t they know we’re the best fans in baseball????
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 1, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i see monk sneak in on bcb
and they seem to have no clue. yesterday he said he thought it was brilliant to hang sliders to pujols, and they were all his pals.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they like dogs with wigs?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i guess
of course they don’t even notice motte in a cards cap commenting…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
pj strikes at vulnerable times
it’s like yadi stealing a base
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Okay, that should not have been a reply there
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
i was just reading it with the up button, and confused
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
7 years isn't what I'd call that brief
Besides, Jimenez doesn’t have nearly the control or deception that Pedro had. If he loses 3 MPH on his fastball (which is likely to happen) he becomes a not that great pitcher.
by vivaelpujols on May 31, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
it is brief in comparison to 15 years
the point was physically keeping it up, and i think ubaldo is much more equipped than pedro to do that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
right
and nolan ryan a little more, right? of course we are talking different frames, etc, which is my point with ubaldo. he has a chance to be otherworldly as far as dominance at an age beyond 32, 33. as i said, pedro is my favorite pitcher ever, but i had no expectation of him at 37 still dominating – ubaldo i can see doing that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You can say that about a lot of guys
Josh Johnson is just as big and probably better to this point in his career (and lower FIP this year for kicks), Wainwright, Verlander, Felix etc.
Not afraid to nitpick
I could easily see Wainwright being better than Jimenez for longer
He doesn’t need to maintain a 95+ MPH fastball for him to be successful. If Jimenez gets injured and loses 2-3 MPH on his fastball, that will hurt him a lot.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Cabrera has never approached having the stuff ubaldo has
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
Yeah, but Cabrera was never good at all
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can't think of anyone of the top of my head
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
true
why don’t we compare ubaldo to two guys who have nothing in common with him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's also a lefty with an injury history
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Kazmir never had a +15 slider or +9.6 changeup for a season
or anything approaching he had a +6 slider for eight games in 04 beyond that Kaz was a FB only guy
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
The runs above value on Ubaldo's pitches his wSL and wCH
last year nowhere near Timmehs wCH but still great stuff
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
ridiculous
and if ubaldo was a bird everyone would have a different tune.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
birds are pretty brittle
even if he were a big one I can’t imagine him lasting much past this year.
by DanUpBaby on Jun 1, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bullshit
I’ve offered a perfectly legitimate reason for me being skeptical of Jimenez’ future. Please refute that before calling us out for homerism.
by vivaelpujols on Jun 1, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
you can make any case you want
i disagree with your assertion that ubaldo is reliant totally on his velocity. and i won’t get into the homerism on a fan site, because i’m not saying anything is wrong with it. ubaldo, imo, will get better and better. hey, that’s just my take – nothing personal.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
but i am not saying that
i am saying that my pick is ubaldo – that’s all. if i could have one pitcher going forward, i would take him. i said this when he came up as a reliever. it was obvious, at least to me, what this guy could be. yes, you could say that about some other pitchers, but i am not. this guy has been my bet for a few years now, and i am sticking with him – sorry. this is my opinion. he is the one i chose of that group back then.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
then pick one already
you are already years behind me – decide!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ummm I'm saying it's pretty pointless to pick one
Pitchers blow up in all sizes and Ubaldo isn’t anything more special in terms of success so far.
Not afraid to nitpick
i guess i could say that about a lot of guys
but i don’t, and am not. i’m saying ubaldo is the long-term cream of the crop, rightly or wrongly. i really don’t pay that much attention to the numbers at this point – they can be blinding – but rather just watch the performances and comment accordingly. if i’m in a rough spot with my thinking i’ll look at some select numbers, but otherwise i’m pretty comfortable with my eye-ball assessment, especially if i have any “background information” about a guy.
i’m merely judging talent/performance by eye-ball, i admit. i’ve missed on guys that haven’t made it to mlb, but very rarely once they get there – oliver perez after his first few outings with the pirates a notable exception. but i think ubaldo is out of that range at this point, and it is now a determination of just how dominant and for how long it will be.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
playoffs
i have a feeling we see them. i might pull a high school tennis move, and match penny or jaime against him, give carp and waino more favorable matchups. of course it’s too early to think about it, and i’d only do it if it didn’t cost one of them a start in the series.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
THAT GAME FUCKING RULED!!!!!
that is all.
also, new rasmus MAJESTIC tee shirt jersey? fuck and yes.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 31, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Web Gems of May
Boog spinning is in.
Also, Luddy against the scoreboard.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 31, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
The nose twitch is even better in slo-mo.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 31, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of gifs, does anyone have Albert and Yadi's slapfight?
espn only has part of it, but ksdk had an extended look. it was hilarious.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 31, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Heercule Poirboog
M. Hastings, I ’ave the solution, mais non?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
a most luxuriant specimen of mustache
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He needs to use those little grey cells at the plate
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
damn, it didn't occur to me that they'd do month-end schticks.
when shall this thing come back…..
/montage-sucker.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 31, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
manny hit number 550 tonite
that’s a big number.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
what the hell is 24?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
# of times that Stan was in the ASG.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 31, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think cody meant that
but it’s a nice number
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It's the only answer I had.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 31, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, gotta go with what ya got
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ryan F. Ludwick is #3 on Web Gems leaderboard!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Fredbird and his silly hat standing for the national anthem makes it into the SC opening montage
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 31, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
from red reporter:
“Joe Nuxhall Memorial Honorary Star of the Game
Jaime Garcia. I hate to do it, but he pitched six strong innings, only allowing two earned runs and striking out six. He also went 2-2 at the plate with a walk and scored two runs. Honorable mentions go to Colby Rasmus (ugh), Felipe Lopez, and Ryan Ludwick."
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
sounds like it
but i don’t know if it’s just the mod or a consensus, or what that’s about.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if he isn't better than he was last year at the end of this season, I may mull over him being an overhyped prospect
the main problem with him is his arm isn’t very good, but I don’t think anyone claimed he had a great arm. I just wish him, and our offense overall really, weren’t as streaky
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
What?! He's OPSing over .800 and by that measure is our second best hitter.
In his second season! Everyone else on the team is older.
Check this out and tell me Colby is over-hyped.
You can read it in any tone you like.
some are saying he is overhyped
but I disagree. unless he doesn’t improve upon last season
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He's already improved upon last season.
I’m not saying he’s going to finish the season with nearly a .900 OPS but it’s not outside the realm of possibility.
He’s been slumping something fierce, and his OPS is still nearly .900. LINK
Obviously this season is only 1/3 over, so there’s plenty of time for these numbers to get worse or get even better. It’s not like he was hyped like Strasburg or Heyward.
You can read it in any tone you like.
I am very optimistic that he will have a good season
despite his recent struggles.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
also
people tend to complain a lot about strikeouts. as long as his slugging is that high and his OBP is nearly .400, we have nothing to complain about, even if he can be a little sloppy fundamentally. I think he’ll improve actually… I don’t see him K’ing this much over the course of the season
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
he'll probably hit dingers at a better rate too
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
crap...
his OBP won’t be very high if he keeps striking out though, his BABIP will regress to the mean of around .300.
just look his Babip is .369(before today) and he’s hitting only .262 when it drops his BA will drop and so will his OBP. He’ll need to keep his BB rate up and .Iso high if he wants to continue being a high OPS guy. And most importantly put the damn ball in play
yeah
at least there’s a chance of creating errors too if you don’t K
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
the umps still aren't giving the walkapotamoose respect on a regular basis, too.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
fucking umpires
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
fumps
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I knew a guy who had a wicked case of the fumps
Got it from a hooker in Texarkana
by jd is legend on Jun 1, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
See does this explain my reactiosn in the last thread?!
by vivaelpujols on May 31, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
you overreacted a bit
maybe tone it down a notch lol
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know if he overreacted
just maybe used the wrong language. colby is a big talent.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it was the all-caps that offended me
j/k, I high fived him!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, you were laughing while saying it...
it may have been a bit rough around the edges, but certainly necessary. After that play in the first, I had people telling me we should trade him. I erupted with laughter.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
trade him for who?
do we really want Jon Jay as the center fielder? and Luddy is not a center fielder by any means. he is, however, a right field legend.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Alot of that is bolstered by his unbelievable April
April: .323/.463/.708/1.171
May: .226/.320/.357/.667
If he plays the rest of the season like May, his season-ending numbers will probably fall below last year’s, and Chitown will have a point. I think he’s somewhere between, as he’s still walking a ton even when he’s not hitting for average, and I think people who are jumping off the Colby Rasmus bandwagon are a little trigger happy.
by jd is legend on Jun 1, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think his numbers will be in the middle of those extremes, and I can live with that.
You can read it in any tone you like.
June is off to a good start
and honestly if he really is this streaky, hopefully it goes like this
April: RIDICULOUS
May: SUCKS
June: RIDICULOUS
July: SUCKS
August: Ridiculous
September: SUCKS
October: RIDICULOUS
June may very well be a great month
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 2, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about his arm not being that good.
He just makes some dumbass decisions. He doesn’t always seem to know what he’s supposed to do and when to do it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 31, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that will come with experience
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
Not everybody comes into the league fully formed. I think his talent level was so much higher than everybody else at the lower levels that he didn’t have to think about what he was doing and now he has to know at all times who, what , where, and when. If he gets it all put together, it oughta be a helluva show.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I think next year he will be on the all star team
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
when did furcal begin to look like joe thurston?
little pudgy, couldn’t get around the bases on a kemp double with 2 outs.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I noticed chipper jones trimmed down a lot this season
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
kelly johnson ties it up for dodgers
boots then throws the grounder away with 2 outs, allows two runs to score – two errors for him on one play – booting and throwing.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Gawd awful play. At least he can hit,so Shumaker comparisons only go so far. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
true, i would trade schu for him any day
but i think i’d rather have lopex than johnson.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'd imagine most of the Dbacks could be had. Reynolds out some lameness. . .Would you swap Freese even up for him?
Wonder what it would require to pry Haren away from the desert. Can a team redeem its sins?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
i think haren could and will be had
not sure we have the goods. i would not trade freeze, no. his average is higher right now than i expected, but otherwise he’s just that zeile-reitz combo i thought he would be. of course the season is young, and he could fall flat on his face, but i don’t expect that. i think he will hit around .275 – .280 when all is said and done.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's asking if you'd trade freeze for reynolds
of course we’d trade him for haren, but that ain’t happening
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Agreed. However, it's tempting to lose the sight of his age. How old is Reynolds?
Wonder what it would take to snag Haren? Lynn, Boggs/ ______?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Reynolds turns 27 in early August.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 1, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
lynn, boggs, motte, ottavino
would get it done, but i wouldn’t do it. leave motte out and it’s a tougher choice – depends on who we put in there. i’d guess they’d want craig, and i wouldn’t do that either. i’d consider varieties of such packages for their shortstop, though.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Wait. The Cards scored 12 runs without a dinger?
Wow.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 31, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
what's the problem
the Cards do this all the time
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
but the sox already picked one of ozzie's sons
another MIF who, when he flamed out, got a job with the team and then was fired for tweeting critical things – to pick a second son would be unprecedented, as if we had picked both duncan’s after firing one.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Shelley wanted to be a Yankee
so we had no such luck
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 31, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL - Dodgers awful baserunning. Nice to see the Cards don't have a monopoly on baserunning bluners. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
loney gets picked off second in bottom of ninth
1st and 2nd no outs and martin was going to bunt them over.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
padres are whoopin the mets
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hilarious - Walk off balk. Dodgers announcers: Example of winning ugly
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I think if the Dodgers win the west it will be because no one else stepped up to win it
their team isn’t all that impressive to me.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 31, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ubaldo is doing the best he can ya know!
by jackhammerslam on May 31, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Padres
wtf
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
dodgers and rocks will both be in the playoffs
in the end that’s likely the best division in NL
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I have no idea personally
this season is pretty weird so far
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
which Vazquez was that?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
in any case, since no one is gonna tell me
if he’s a foreign-born pitcher, I recall a retired player and/or coach saying sometimes all the rules are not explained. so that’s a possibility. can you imagine explaining balk rules with a language barrier….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he plays for arizona
and i think balk rules are fairly uniform.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
so you're saying they're enforced the same way every time in every country?
the quote was basically that there are so many rules and situations, no one sits down with these guys and explains everything thoroughly. I think the trigger situation was Yadi — it’s immaterial where they play now.
in any case, I floated that as a possibility, since no one is clarifying which Vazquez did it so I can open my last tab and find his actual background.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i don't know which vasquez
but, yes, i believe the balk rules are fairly uniform, especially after going through the minors, etc.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yes, but how many times do you actually encounter a balk situation
that’s what I mean. it’s a complex rule. it’s not just “don’t do this one thing.” it doesn’t matter to my point whether the balk rules are uniform. it matters whether they are uniformly taught.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by the time you are making $400K/year, minimum, to do a simple job
i think you should be expected to be able to find someone to explain the frigging rules to you in whatever language you need them explained in. I’m sure there’s someone out there who can explain the balk rules in czech, if necessary; finding someone who can do it in spanish should be trivial.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
except rookies are expected to be seen and not heard
you’ve just run into the unwritten rules.
for one thing, these guys may assume that they know the rules.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
What, again, are the minor leagues for?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
VEB bless the fates we don't have a DBAX team. Johnson throws in 2 runs, pitcher balks in the the loser. . .
Lose creatively, lose ugly, lose often. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
man
they have potential, but they are totally screwing it up
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Listened to the Dodgers' announcers. They are blunt. "Loney just bad baseball." "Feel sorry for AJ Hinch - trying to play chess without any pieces."
Can’t remember Cards radio guys even approaching that threshhold of honesty.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
they do have classy announcers
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
here in arizona
it’s like the announcers are being proactive to try to stem the “get rid of AJ” wave, yet the wave hasn’t rushed in yet. the team is bad — fundamentally bad as well as devoid of any big-time talent. i’m not sure whether the D-backs fan base is (1) apethetic or (2) so savvy that they understand it’s not AJ’s fault.
by puffymonkey13 on Jun 1, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
they need Upton to wake up and hopefully he is better than what he has been playing
I still like Reynolds a lot. Kelly Johnson has been hitting very well. but yeah, it had to be a major setback when Webb is not ready yet. Haren isn’t quite himself either. they have some potential, but they are not playing well. very bad bullpen always destroys a team’s morale too.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I would put _____ in the "big-time talent"
category.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Jun 1, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
both teams have a lot of potential but aren't playing good baseball
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
dodgers are hot hot hot
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they started off really bad
then they won a ton of games… but they can’t seem to keep up with the padres, who won handily vs the mets tonight. had around 10 runs
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
they began with a bunch of injuries
but the dodgers have far outpaced the pads in the last 20 or so games, and are so much better in the long run.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
perhaps
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
worst bullpen in baseball
and the starters aren’t so hot either.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Geez,
Sweet Lou looks like a whipped dog here. Or maybe like a guy that doesn’t want that job any more.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on Jun 1, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
that reminds me
the look on his face after the third Pujols home run was the most heartbreaking look I have ever seen. he looked like he wanted to cry but he was too tired to. it was truly a very very sad face.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
that was a classic
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah
when they cut to him sitting alone in the dug out, with shiny eyes, staring off into space…. I wish I could find that pic, that face is amazing. it would make a good painting, really.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he is really regretting his decision to take that job now.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
it was all fun and games while the Cards were rebuilding
though I really am starting to wonder about the toxicity of Wrigley Field.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I would say the toxicity of Chicago.
But then again, I’m from Southern Illinois and biased against most all things from that end of the state.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
it's really funny
because people in northern Illinois do not dislike southern Illinois. I find it fascinating how it works.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
that's 'cause it's largely ignored and neglected?
just a guess.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I suppose
but it is also underpopulated, which may have something to do with it. Southern Illinois University is a great place to visit if you are looking to party, though.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
it's kind of like us railing against fespn ignoring the rest of the world outside of the east coast
the east coast doesn’t know what we’re complaining about. meanwhile Stan Musial is not widely known.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
people should take a baseball education class
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
this
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
there's a million aspects that could bleed over into other topics too
historical parallels, etc
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
good guess
the center of power…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
We tend to get treated like the barefoot country cousins down here.
Anything we get is by the sheer benevolence of Chicago. But this would get into politcs and I won’t go there.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I want to go rock climbing there
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
The Garden of the Gods is pretty fucking awesome for that kind of thing.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I have been wanting to go there for years
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Not a rock climber, but this is in "my back yard"
Just one bit of it. The Humbug Spires outside of Butte.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
awesome!
I would not climb it though, I need smaller rocks to climb
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That's a helluva backyard.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
btw
the whole state is pretty underfunded. there are more and more potholes and stuff in chicago. so I have no idea where the money is going. maybe Blago knows
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
also the storm drains don't work right
it’s a mess in places, and really nice in other places. weird city.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
You oughta see what our roads have turned into down here.lol
We would be better off trying to go back to straight gravel roads.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
they have resorted to placing traffic cones into the giant foot deep potholes now
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
We do have an advantage there, we just fill them with rock.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
are you talking about highways, or in town?
at least the interstate is ok, eh?
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
The highways they kinda fix. They are servicable but rougher than a cob.
Same with the interstate. They need to be wider to accommodate the truck traffic, which is what really destroys the road system.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
it’s a definite conundrum. I wish the state could get things funded properly. it’s like bad governor after bad governor after bad governor. and the state legislature wasn’t even meeting up for a while. wtf
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahaha
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Jun 1, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
in new orleans
residents put tall bookcases into such holes, but people steal them.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'm shocked no one's posted a gratuitous sinkhole picture yet.
off your game, veb.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's what I was thinking when I watched that video
I’m thinking the whole stigma of the Cubs may prevent them from ever getting a good manager, especially after piniella, who is at least not a bad manager. and seeing how frustrated he is, and not being able to explain why they can’t win, etc.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Another knee slapper. The video feed is spotty and has the effect of showing Lou's blues in SloMo. Al l the funnier.
Reader comments tend to be of the Lou’s-given-up variety. More probably, Lou’s awakened to the fact that his team is sleepwalking all the way to the bank to deposit their indifference vouchers.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I kind of feel sorry for him
he is obviously trying hard to come up with explanations, yet there are none.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
wow
by the end of that thing, the interviewers even seemed uncomfortable.
Rule #1 of “managing to keep your job”: Never let them interview you while sitting on a la-Z-boy.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
y'all hear about how the Marlins are cashing in on their nonexistent ticket sales?
thanks Doc…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
awh yeah
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Us and the Rays in the WS...
Man, living in Tampa…that’s gonna suck, lol.
by jackhammerslam on Jun 1, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
well, I should've hit the hay an hour ago...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
classic
lol
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
The catfish and AJ Hinch have about the same actuarial value.
Thinking of which, does anyone know the name of the congressman who was officially censored for this on-the-floor bon mot?
Q:
What’s the difference between an Iraqi woman and a catfish?
A:
One has no teeth, whiskers and smells bad- the other’s a fish.
Women’s groups the world over protested as one. Not sure of fish lobby
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
peta is offended!!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
TLR explaining regression to the mean
“He’s played seven years,” La Russa said of Holliday. “You take career stats. Somewhere around the end of the year, if he stays healthy he’s going to be right around his average, which is a nice average and good production.”
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Also justifying the team paying his exhorbitant salary, and so-far-to-date mediocre season.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
He's actually hitting pretty well
.367 wOBA, decent defense. Obviously, below his career averages, but a lot better than mediocre.
It’s the lack of production that’s killing us.
I think the numbers somewhat belie the season. IFFFFFFF he picks up production as per his norm, the team should be all right.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
if he can hit in the latter stages of close games
i will be very happy.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
fanpost about holliday up
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 1, 2010 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions
McGwire's wife having triplets
so Big Mac is taking a leave of absence of 2-3 days
I want the Walrus back...
I can't wait for someone to write an article about it
when the Cardinals walk seven times each night.
didn't we have 9 or so today?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
If it were octuplets would he get a week off?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
welll, i posted up a fanpost on Mark McGwire
that he should be in the HOF… im really excited to see the response and generally want the opinion of others on whether he should or not (wasn’t here when he was admitting)
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
if he gets in one day i have no problem with it
i think it’s a ways in the distance, though, and i’d rather see pete rose in.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well pete rose doesn't make sense to me
when these steroid users (im not sure which in particular, if i had to guess someone like A-roid will probably break the mold) get in, and pete rose doesn’t, it won’t make sense to me
he belongs in, he didn’t aid his performance…..
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 1, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
technically we don't know that about anyone -
albert, carp, etc. included – unless they confessed or were busted, but it has nothing to do with rose and the HOF.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Oh for sure.
I’m just saying – a guy who decided to gamble on baseball sounds less than ethical.
You can read it in any tone you like.
that's a good point
but its also not the reason he won’t make the HOF
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on Jun 2, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
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