State of the Mistakes
by DanUpBaby on May 27, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintSince an April that began just shy of perfect—that brushed aside all the Spring Training questions we'd been turning over for two months—the Cardinals have obligingly given baseball writers and fans across the former KMOX listening area a number of new things to worry and complain about, beginning with insufficient run-scoring and getting, generally, more specific about the causes of same.
Having watched the Cardinals appear, in announcer-speak, listless for so long now I think I wouldn't mind at all watching a team that coasted to victory in the regular season, the playoffs, the World Series. But maybe part of our baseball fandom demands this kind of thing to dissect, diagnose, and cure. In any case: part of writing about baseball fandom demands it.
Baserunning is the closest thing to timely, so I'll come to it first. The Cardinals don't seem like they should be a bad baserunning team; they aren't that old, their outfield is devoid of slugs, their star hitter is famously reckless and, to his credit, an excellent base-stealer, and their only truly immobile player is the fastest of the Catching Molinas. But .
Ludwick, for instance, has made four outs on the bases this year—more than he had in all of any one season before now. Schumaker, normally an average baserunner despite being a little slow for both the middle infielder with no power and center fielder stereotypes, has made four himself, tying his own career high. Colby Rasmus was having an outstanding year before last night's cavalcade of baserunning comedy; he'd earned seven additional bases with his baserunning, though he's given some of it back with his inefficient base-stealing.
The Cardinals' starting eight are at -21 bases so far this season—last year, the same eight batters were worth 19 additional bases, despite Holliday (-2) and Pujols (-15) having the worst seasons of their career and Rasmus (26) and Molina (-26) canceling out one-another's career years.
That's the thing about baserunning numbers, though. They correspond pretty well with reality, inasmuch as the fast guys and the guys usually thought of as outstanding baserunners (Scott Rolen, for instance) do well most years, but there's a lot of year-to-year variance as guys make a few more ugly mental errors than usual, or nurse sore hamstrings for a month. The Cardinals' poor baserunning corresponds to real mental lapses and poor decisions, but its performance to this point can't necessarily be expected to persist over the rest of the season.
But the baserunning is just a prologue. What we're really feeling, at this point in the season, is the Cardinals' seeming reluctance to ever drive in baserunners they've been lucky enough to find in scoring position. But would you believe the Cardinals have the tenth highest OPS in baseball with runners on? .815—higher, even, than their overall OPS.
Now for the post-jump cold water: that OPS is pretty OBP heavy. The Cardinals are hitting .256/.373/.443 with runners on. The Cardinals' struggles aren't Albert's fault, but that line is—he's hitting .317/.548/.610 with runners in scoring position this year, thanks to 14 intentional walks.
The fact is that most of the Cardinals have had success with runners in scoring position this year; in addition to Pujols, everyone but Skip Schumaker and Matt Holliday—now up to .182/.274/.236—have OPSes considerably above their seasonal totals with LOBsters in the pot. But all those walks—29 intentional—are just additional torture when a team's hitting .256, more stillborn runs over which to fret.
I don't believe in a long-term clutch skill; I think it'll even out, or at least be less terrible, over the course of the season. But it's been an incredibly frustrating month with the middle of the order struggling, and I'd love for the luck correction to start... now.
As for the middle of the order struggling, it's not all Holliday and Pujols—as Bernie noted yesterday, Colby Rasmus was a huge part of the offense in April and has been a huge hole in the offense in May. It's less damaging to our psyche than Albert Pujols's month as a basically average hitter, but it's just as damaging to the offense. Holliday, meanwhile, is hitting, if not with power or runners on base—his .811 OPS is about the same as he managed in April, only OBP-heavy instead of slugging percentage-biased.
All of these problems are real, and frustrating, but the most significant concern is this: Albert Pujols is not hitting like Albert Pujols this month. Until that happens again, and I'm confident it will, Cardinals baseball will be a nervous affair.
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Went to bed at 8:30...
just read the play-by-play of the game…. 16 strikeouts, 11 lobsters, 2 guys out at home, 1 out at third, 1 out at second, and… one run scored in 13 innings.
LaRussa needs to have a sitdown with the GOBs and find out what they want. He may have to sacrifice one of his beloved cats.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
i think there was another out on the basepaths (5), but who's counting?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That had to have been the worst...
game to watch in a long time. Between the previous night’s fiasco, the late start, the early baserunning gaffes and lobsters… then to tie it up after having two out and none on in the 9th only to lose four innings later to none other than Hairston. It just doesn’t get any worse than this.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
we had something like an 86% chance of winning
and then made 2 outs on the bases in one play – not your typical dp, as neither of the outs was a force out. it was worse on our part than that time we got two opposing runners out at third on one play (pitt?).
we went from first and third no outs to first and two outs in the blink of an eye.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That had to be the ugliest thing I have seen in a long time.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Hairston 2, Cardinals, 1
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
it could have
at least we didn’t lose a starter this time
but apparently a functioning bullpen and hitting are mutually exclusive
effin GOBs
By my count...
…Lopez caught stealing…badly
…Jay fried at home by Durango
…Colby in the rundown on the overthrown ball
…Colby on the rundown between 3rd and home
….Yadi on the same play
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 27, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
It might have ended badly
but once he saw Torrealba (sp?) blocking the plate, I wish the cheif justice would have just laid down the law
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
btw, it's apparent now why they call him go-go durango
dude can fly.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, no joke....bunt single down the first base line...not often that happens.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
haha
at first i read that as… wouldn’t it be wonderful if yadi had durango’s legs broken?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
if Yadi anybody would have had durango’s legs/speed
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
We can just trade for him, right?
We seem to do that with Padres players a lot, yes??
Part of the reason I like Freese
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
it depends
is it our turn to win a trade from the padres? or is it their turn?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it ever REALLY their turn?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
we could trade freese for him
but then nobody on our team would be hitting
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Can't send Freese back....Part of the reason I like him is because he's from the Pad's org..
….and I got to see him play in Fort Wayne!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
That's for sure
I was thinking after Holliday’s inevitable SO w/ the bases loaded last night (anyone here NOT see that coming even when it was 3-0?), is it time to put Freese behind Albert and move Holliday down to 6th or maybe up to 2nd?
by ArkansasTravs on May 27, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
pretty much sums up the cause of frustration
the baserunning is obvious to everyone, notably the opposing team:
“The Cards made so many mistakes on the basepaths.”
by Zach (maestro876) on May 26, 2010
they went on to note all the outs, but sometimes it’s in not taking the base, like in the first when jay didn’t get to third when the left-fielder made a blunder and threw to first in an ill-advised attempt to double off albert, who gave jay a look and motioned to him that “hey, you should be at third”. then he wouldn’t have been thrown out at home (slide?) – how did he not get to third? the throw even went to the camera well. it’s like we have no instinct for the game whatsoever, unlike the pujols/rolen/edmonds/ecksteins who did. (speaking of eck, he has the best UZR in mlb for 2b at 6.1)
going into the game albert had 1 dinger in his last 82 ab’s. the watch continues.
the padres have the best run differential in the league. they are no joke. i love the way they play. it’s the kind of team tony larussa would love to manage. if we played like them, with our talent, we’d be arguably the best team in baseball. (bud black is a very good manager – he should get picked as a coach for the all-star game)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
black has done a wonderful job this year
although I just can’t see it continuing. So many of their pitchers are playing way over their heads, and their lineup is otherwise pretty ordinary other than Gonzo. In many respects, this could turn out to be a bad thing for the Pads because, if they don’t make the playoffs this year, they may be missing out on a valuable season in which they could’ve been rebuilding.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 27, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
they’ll still sweep us, though…
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 27, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i've had all those same thoughts
it’s a double-edged sword, for sure.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Albert only has 1 in 82
because it was in Cincy. Even he was surprised it went out. He’s hitting strictly with his hands.
by vinniefromjersey on May 27, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
that last popup last night
might have been out some place other than petco
gave me a glimmer of hope
a very small one
it did seem to just die
sea air, i guess. he needs to direct them toward the hairston section of the stands
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Looking at the replay...
Rasmus was right to go home, but he has to make more of an effort. He should have run back to third no matter what. At least that would occupy the third baseman and let Molina get in there.
He’s young. He’ll learn.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
he's definitely very talented
but i wonder about his baseball savvy. sometimes he seems like a gifted athlete playing the game for the first time – i mean, the rundown, whether you are the hunters or the hunted, is one of the most basic things in baseball. everyone knows how it’s going to go, and how it’s going to end, yet he seemed to be in the first rundown of his life. which i know wasn’t true, because he also got in a rundown between second and third earlier – stupidly – and cost us another opportunity by ending the inning.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Sometimes I worry about his savvy period...
that said, you don’t have to be a genius to play baseball. He might be so talented he just has never had to concentrate on the level that others have to. He also seems to be on cruise control a lot of the time… Not in a bad way that’s just sort of how he moves, which isn’t very effective in run downs.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
i'm not sure
Colby is all that bright. His learning curve may be a lot longer than your typical big leaguers. If someone can show me his MENSA card, I will retract. Otherwise, he looks and acts like a high schooler gifted with athletic ability but overly challenged by Algebra I.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
"Intelligence" doesn't work that way anyway.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I heard he's the 3rd smartest person from Alabama...EVER
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Nick Saban isn't from Alabama, he just lives there now
He’s certainly a very bright guy, though
by jd is legend on May 27, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Bear Bryant and Nick Saban
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
The statement said "ever."
(Of course, neither Bryant or Saban is actually from Alabama.)
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
1.) Waldo L. Semon
2.) Heather Whitestone
3.) Colby Rasmus
4.) JD
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
and the ladies love it
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
(heh)heh(heh)
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 27, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
don't piss in JD's cheerios
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
'course take into consideration
that you are talking about Alabama here….
by ArkansasTravs on May 27, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He's played baseball his entire life.
You don’t learn these things in the majors.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I dunno..
I think maybe embarrassing himself and screwing the team at the major league level will help him focus. Plus older players do get better at these sorts of things, imo. Not sure if it’s “learning” so much as concentration, focus, etc…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
It's no excuse but...
I think his lack of “baseball savvy” is probably an imbalance in his ratio of “baseball talent” and “baseball smarts” – he’s got tons of the former and little of the latter. He’s always had so much physical talent, he was never going to get pulled because he threw to the wrong base or missed a sign. Anything other than “see the ball, hit the ball, catch the ball” and he’s in trouble.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He shouldn't have broke in the first place IMO
When the IF is playing, they’re doing it specifically to cut you down at the plate. If the ball is hit on the ground and gets through, you’re going to walk across home plate anyway, so why break like hell on contact?
As for the rundown, Rasmus could have done more to stay in it, but the Padres also executed it perfectly. The guy with the ball has to run as fast as possible and take the thing over, and that’s what Torrealba did. Then he was heads up enough to see that Molina was dead meat too. I don’t nod along with Al very often, but he was right when he said that Yadi was already in scoring position at second and probably shouldn’t have risked it anyway… or at least not with Rasmus running back towards the base trapped.
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by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah...
if he had just run directly into Yorvit, Molina would’ve stayed at second. If he had prolonged the rundown as much as possible Molina would’ve been at third… He sort of did the worst thing possible.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
I went through this last night
He did try to prolong the rundown as long as possible, if he tries to go back to 3B then it’s an even easier play to tag him then Molina……he tried to guess when Torrealba was throwing it to 3B and guessed wrong. It wasn’t a lack of effort, Torrealba just executed that perfectly.
It’s Molina who can’t really be going to 3rd until Torrealba actually does throw that to 3B, if he can at all with his speed.
Not afraid to nitpick
You might be right about this...
Oquendo never signalled for Molina to try for third…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
No he didn't...
As you watch the rundown develop, Yadi consistently seems very far away from third.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Yadi typically seems very far away for a very long time from the base to which he is trying to advance
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on May 27, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm suddenly envisioning Yadi running toward Swamp Castle.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the short stop between second and third no Yadi in sight.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
He's behind the SS, I would guess.
A wide turn of second?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
No he's at second base...
you can see it on the video
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
agree with you here
Another “bad baserunning” question is, why the heck wasn’t Skip on second base?
Luddy made an out, so it ended up not mattering, but if Yadi goes to third, skip has to go to second.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Well that's true
Hadn’t thought about that. I concede the point. Now if there HADN’T been a guy on first…
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by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not sure if it was his decision to break
i know i wouldn’t leave the decision up to him. likely the contact play was in effect and he just did what he was supposed to do. and just when you would love one of our slow rollers we get instead a shot, and then right at the fielder, of course
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
"the fastest of the Catching Molinas."
If yadi had a Facebook this should be his quote.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I'm so relieved
that someone has finally owned up to the Cardinals’ poor baserunning. Early in the season, after a string of Ludwick and Schumaker mishaps, complaints about baserunning were dismissed as invalid because of small sample size. Well, now we are 47 games into the season and it is apparent that without corrective action, the follies on base may continue. Just average baserunning would have preserved a couple of wins that got away. Let’s hope the players wise up because I’m not sure there is a thing the coaching staff can do about this.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
I'm still not sure it's systemic
Like Holliday’s troubles with RISP, I can be both convinced it’s happened to this point in the season and also not worried about it continuing. Ludwick and Schumaker are both at least average baserunners over the course of their careers. I expect it to happen again.
This must be what Cubs fans felt like last year
Heavily favored to win the Division out of the gates. Then Injuries hit their pitchers and their high paid starters under preformed…
This must be what fans of underperforming teams feel like
Being compared to the Cubs.
by chalk on May 27, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It didnt suck quite so bad until these two comments. Now being compared to the Cubs...
Oh God! I’m depressed.
When I start feeling like that I find that counting backwards helps to calm me.
2006, 2004, 1987, 1985, 1982, 1968, 1967…
Yes, starting to feel better now.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Just an excruciatingly boring team
It’s nice to see the pitching succeed, but with no means of offense, the Cardinals are destined to settle into the middle of the NL Central pack.
Is the grace period on Colby Useless over? The guy is a bust.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not...
I hope so…but just in case:
Player A’s second season: .300/.366/.481 – .369 wOBA
Player B’s second season: .261/.380/.507 – .375 wOBA
One of those is Colby, one of those is Jr. Griffey. I think its a tad premature to be calling Colby a bust.
His posting history tells me
that this is not sarcasm.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
COMS?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
No, he's not.
That’s his schtick. Review his history; virtually every comment he’s ever made has been based on the premise the Cardinals are, in fact, a terrible baseball team and everyone associated with them should be ridiculed.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't he live in Boston?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No idea.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
so he's actually a cubs fan?
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmmmmmm
One of those guys pretty much skipped the minors and was in the big leagues at 19 and didn’t have a single injury issue until he was 26.
The other hit the big leagues at 22 after playing 3 full seasons in the minors and another injury plagued one, then had an injury plagued first season and has put together 2 good months in his first 7 big league months.
It’s a little much to compare him to one of the best can’t miss prospects in the last 25 years. If you wanted to compare Griffey to Jason Heyward, that would be a little more fair.
I agree that it’s too early to call him a bust, but you can do that without all the hyperbole too.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Please don't let facts
get in the way of a good rant!
On the other hand, Colby’s 2nd season isn’t over yet.
Hold the phone
He had a bad rookie year and started well this year (showing the things that will he him doing well) and he’s in a slump (and not exactly the only one not hitting) at te begining of his second MLB season and he’s a bust?!
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 27, 2010 9:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*keep
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 27, 2010 9:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
well then
i should calm down
/still angry from last night’s gaem
/needs to go to work
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 27, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
You assume wrong.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm truly disappointed.
At least this sort of thing is rare here as compared to most places on the internet.
True.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Trouble is,
we don’t know yet if April was True Colby and May is Just-Slumping Colby, or if April was Career-Month Colby and May is True Colby.
If that made any sense.
by Andyfantastic on May 27, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
BUST BUST BUST!
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 27, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I LIKE MY COFFEE EXTREMELY SMOOTH
…wait, what?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 27, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Well
He did pull away from Ryan Howard in the SO department. He is now ahead by 1. But he has double the walks and actually has a higher Slug than Howard.
Rasmus’s Apirl
.323 / .463 / .708 / 1.171
Rasmus’s May
.205 / .298 / .329 / .626
He’s had a pretty bad month so far.
Colby is a bust?
you’ve got to be kidding me. just more negative commenting from OD
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Stan Musial
is a bust…
"Who is John Gall?"
by iron duke75 on May 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It's painful to watch
this team right now … but I can’t stop myself. I need group therapy or to start taking drugs.
The last time the Cardinals
won a game by 10 runs or more was Oct. 1, 2009, against Cincinnati, when they won 13-0. The biggest winning margin this year: seven runs, May 9, against the woebegone Pirates.
by Michael_68_1999 on May 27, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
don't let yahoo commenters read this comment...
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
i feel ill
dgoold Chalk up two more outs on the basepaths. Great @jay_jaffe pointed out that #stlcards lost 6.9 runs on bases this season. Make it 8.9 right? about 8 hours ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chemistry? nagging injuries?
Pure speculation about the former.
But we know the latter is certain. Penny, Lohse, AP, Hawk, and Holliday are/were gutting it out. It will be nice if everyone will get healthy.
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
there is a DL for a reason!
I can understand Hawk and Penny wanting to play through pain. But Holliday and Lohse are set for the next few years. Get Healthly damnit!
not sure about the DL
but would it be a bad thing to give an AP a game or to off just to clear his head? when I see him off his game like this (and “off” here is pretty relative compared to mortal players) it seems to stem from frustration at seeing so much stuff out of the zone, increasingly reaching out for away pitches and leading more with his hands. would it hurt to give him a game or two away from the frustration so he can just concentrate on recalibrating his swing? or would that just aggravate it?
nick stavinoha = trade bait
by Oedipa Maas on May 27, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I could buy into that
I’m sure he’ll come round eventually, but this is pretty much the worst form I can ever remember as long as I’ve watched him. Some time off surely couldn’t hurt.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 27, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
This isn't the kind of thing...
one says about a $30 million player.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Exactly.
I was in one of the “Party Rooms” for Saturday’s game when I had enough beers to think that I could at least talk logically with some friends about “when do you seriously begin to wonder about NOT signing Albert?” I was pretty sure the whole group was going to burn me at the stake.
It’s taboo to suggest it, but really, a $30 million/per, multi-year deal for a declining player would absolutely cripple this franchise.
On a more optimistic note, I was watching part of one of the BOS-TB games a few days ago. They were talking about Big Papi and his early-season struggles last year and this year. Anyway, they showed the splits and he had like 1 HR up until some date (like 2 months in), then led the AL in BOTH HRs and RBIs for the remainder of the season. I’m hoping we’ll see something like that from Albert. And given his track record, that kind of optimism isn’t out of the question, but man, I hope the revival starts soon.
Honestly though
You’ve gotta start thinking about this stuff and I’m sure they are.
I think the conventional wisdom was that there was no way we would simply exercise his option for next year but that we’d get him taken care of long-term if we were gonna keep him (after all, no way we want him sniffing FA offers, right?). Now…who knows? I mean, say he has a crap year.
Do you use the crap year as justification for a “lower” multi-year deal? Does his camp balk at such a suggestion?
Do you just exercise the option (and NOT talk extension) to see if he returns to normal Albert-type levels? Does that piss them off and reduce your chances to signing him after the option year?
Do you just overlook the entire crap year because he’s been so awesome and bet about $30 million/year that it is an outlier?
I think if we try to lowball him based on one bad year (assuming this year ends up being "bad")
He and his agent get offended and take their service elsewhere
by jd is legend on May 27, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotta go beyond Howard...
in AAV and equal to/beyond Holliday in years or offending him is a given. He knows the Cards made out like bandits over the previous 10 years.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
whoa.
I have no doubt AP is going to turn it around. let’s not go all dfa here. I just wondered if a day or two off wouldn’t be of benefit. On the other hand, it could exacerbate the situation from a psychological point of view. it’s just speculation.
i know morneau better than morneau know morneau, and morneau knows it.
by Oedipa Maas on May 27, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think anyone is "going all dfa here."
I mean, all guayzimi said was “this isn’t the kind of thing one says about a $30 million player.”
Just talking about questions that need to be considered.
OTOH
a poor season would certainly help to bring him into the 20-25m range, which I think we could afford much more comfortably. Perhaps there is a silver lining.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 27, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not really...
worried about him for this year or the next year… I just think we all need to get past the “Albert is a freak. Albert is superhuman. Albert is a machine…”
He has been all of those things, but he WILL decline, he WILL demand a minimum – and I stress minimum – of 8 years and $25 million, and the Cardinals WILL suck if they have $25 million in dead money on their books for even a year or two unless the farm starts generating awesome players on the order of the Rangers or Rays.
Honestly, the best baseball move is to trade him at the deadline this year. After that it’s $30 million per year or two draft picks. Teams that get rid of superstars thrive all the time. I watched it in Seattle. In 1999 they ARod and Griffey and they sucked. First they ditched Griffey and they were +12 wins the next year. Then ARod walked and they were +25. Payroll flexibility and agressively signing amateur players are the way to go, not enormous contracts for 30-something players.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
there is no way the FO let's Albert go
let alone trade him
he sells tickets and merchandize
he’s st louis’ icon
they can’t let him go anywhere
I agree..
they won’t trade him, which is why I’m thinking this whole thing is going to end badly.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
just wait it out
we’re freaking out based on 4 weeks
his april was good
new month starts in 4 days
he’s trying too hard and as soon as he realizes it, he’ll be fine
I'm actually not at all worried about...
this year or the next few years with regard to Albert and the Cardinals. It’s 2014+ that concerns me.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
what I'm worried about with Albert
is that his “nagging” injuries seem to get more numerous each year – elbow, back, now right leg and/or knee – I hope it’s not true, but it’s possible he’ll never put together another outstanding season because his body won’t let him – what a lousy thought this morning
but won't it all be worth it in the end?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Have him spend some extended time with the Mrs.
Didn’t she “correct” his swing during a pronounced slump a few yrs ago?
woman's got four kids now
she doesn’t have time to do his homework
but benching him for a game or two might so some good
we should bat him in front of Albert so he gets some good pitches
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on May 27, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
rec
i know morneau better than morneau knows morneau, and morneau knows it.
by Oedipa Maas on May 27, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I see what you did there
Somebody get Marti on it, stat.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
ONE game, max
But I think it could help
by jd is legend on May 27, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i wish it was this game today then
because you know it won’t be chicago. and if tony tries to rest him tonite, hide the bubble gum. albert hates sitting, period, but he’s usually going good and so he accepts the day off grudgingly. but tell him he’s sitting when struggling…i don’t know how that would go over.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I was thinking the same thing after every PA
except the liner to CF, which I think he thought he got all of. which could possibly mean he does need some time off to recharge or change his power batteries
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Hitting with runners on
While watching games it always felt like the Cards were starting rallies with 2 outs and that was leading to all the stranded runners. That was my impression anyway, the first 2 hitters would make outs, and then back to back singles before the 3rd out. Bam, 2 LOBsters.
So I decided to take a peak at some team splits on baseball-reference. Some interesting things to note:
Leading off an inning: 240/293/343
0 out : 239/302/346
1 out: 248/314/418
2 out: 275/380/423
Not getting the lead off man on is a good way to lead to stranded runners. And that seems to be the main issue here. Worse is the fact that the 0 out BA is slightly lower than the lead off BA. That means hits aren’t being strung together early in the innings.
The 2 out numbers are nice, but if there aren’t runners on before getting to 2 outs, it’s going to be difficult to score runs.
by stickman179 on May 27, 2010 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 11 recs
These are some good points
A rec for you, Mr. Stickman.
by Andyfantastic on May 27, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
nice
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That's also a reflection on pitching.
I think it’s natural for a pitcher to pound the strike zone with no one on base and an out or tow on the board. I don’t have anyway to prove that but generally you are more careful with runners on while looking for the quick out with the bases empty.
Marissa Miller for SS
I may be thinking wrong
but doesn’t this:
Not getting the lead off man on is a good way to lead to stranded runners.seem counter-intuitive?
But with your points, I wonder if any amount of lineup-tinkering would help those numbers. I have felt good about the lineups they’ve been trotting out there every night, but like you say, it always seems to end with 2 out rallies.
i think he means assuming you do get a baserunner on in an inning
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 27, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks for translating
That statement is counter-intuitive. But Willie’s Twin did a fine job of saying what I meant to say.
per strauss
JoeStrauss: Apparently Reds taking this NL Central race seriously. Assigned two scouts to Cards series in SD. #LookOut 9 minutes ago via Echofon
JoeStrauss: Doh. RT @Hard_8: @JoeStrauss I think the Reds are scouting SD for when they meet in the NLDS. 3 minutes ago via Echofon
I was going to say "from insult to injury" but that is not an idiom to be entertained right now....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 27, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I always get the feeling that Strauss is just licking his lips when he puts out stuff like that.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahah!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
intrigue...
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I am just having zero luck finding things. I must be expanding my zone.
Does anyone remember Brendan Ryan talking about the actual decision to get a second opinion? It was a quote like he just couldn’t take it anymore so he went down the road to consult someone? I hate these beat reporters only taking snippets of interviews! I thought it was in the Globe-Dem but I just checked their February archives. I’d check that ST blog of Marecek’s if I could find it.
I hope the P-D didn’t archive this. My holey memory says it could be anywhere between his arrival at Spring Training on February 22 and the Goold treasure hunt article on March 20. God help me if it’s earlier… I want to say it was the long “presser” the day he reported to camp.
and yes… this is about the upcoming surgery.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm pretty sure it was the G-D too
but wasn’t it earlier than that? I guess that would be weird since there wouldn’t be any media around to ask him about it…. nevermind…
I think the thing that bums me out the most, is
two of our pitchers…Waino and Formerly “Young Pitcher”, now known as Jaime Garcia are having great seasons so far. Both pitched lights out against SD and we couldnt win it for them. If we had Carp going tonight this would have to be one of the lowest scoring series ever if we don’t win tonight.
I think it's Walters tonight.
although I do notice you said “if”, so i think you mighta known that anyhoo…
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by Felonius_Monk on May 27, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm thinking OPS w/ RISP may not be the best metric for diagnosing our run-plating problem
As you said - in this case it’s dominated by OBP, which itself is dominated by walks. Walks are great and all, but they’re not so effective at plating RISP.
Could we just go with something more general to explain our offensive malaise?
Maybe difference between projected team OPS+ and actual? or something… anyway, I think our failure to produce isn’t just due to RISP sucking but also caused by general suckage.
I'd like to see a computer sim
30,000 times with the OPS w RISP plugged in. Unless the OBP part is ridiculously skewed I’d like to believe it’s random distribution…
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Major power shortage...
SLG May/April
Freese 467/412
Ludwick 437/488
Holliday 405/477
Pujols 384/655
Rasmus 329/708
RISP numbers look OK, late and close look OK, babip numbers for line drives and flies still low but edging closer to normal.
Pujols, Holliday, and Rasmus have just sucked for the last three weeks.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Yup
The Cardinals entire offense has been based on singles and walks. This isn’t 1906 anymore, and teams that only punch the ball around are going to lose. You have to drive the ball into the gaps regularly to win games. Three of the guys who are supposed to do that the most often (Pujols, Holliday, and Rasmus) just aren’t doing it. Ludwick has been down too, but not as badly.
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by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
At the same time...
those guys haven’t permanently morphed into singles hitters… it’s just a 3 week+ slump.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
wow
luckily freese has been helping a lot in may
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Cardinal malaise
Hey, numbers are great. They provide ever expanding ways to get a handle on what’s going on Real Baseballwise. But if you watch the games, it’s pretty clear that the Redbirds problems on offense start and stop at the heart of the order. Shu’s early struggles didn’t help; Boog’s free fall has now compromised the bench; Ludwick has been soft…all of these spell trouble. But the primary reason for the whole thing is the failure of Albert, Holliday and Rasmus to stand and deliver.
It’s not like last year, when the addition of a productive thumper, Holliday, could change the whole dynamic. If these three don’t come back to some kind of normal, it’s going to be a long, long summer.
“I’d love for the luck correction to start.” With all this love for sabermetrics, what’s up with that?
Nobody here actually WATCHES the games.
What sort of blog do you think this is???? Most of us have never even seen a baseball.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 27, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
According to my spreadsheet, we already won the World Series this season!
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by Andyfantastic on May 27, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You can't trust the numbers!
THE NUMBERS DON’T HAVE A HEART.
by chalk on May 27, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the numbers don't actually play the game! it's the people!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
because they're scientifically proven
just like the cognitive biases that dismiss empirical evidence.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on May 27, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Your best post ever, Stark.
Rec’d. And Hard.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you rec it hard, or did you rec it while hard?
by chalk on May 27, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Both.
Any other questions?
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
that's a rec
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
most people who watch baseball AND think about what they're seeing
Realize that players and teams go through boom and bust cycles. Most of these viewers realize that when the heart of our order is composed of two of the best hitters in the NL that those two hitters are highly likely to rebound. Most of these viewers do not worry about what will happen IF colby, albert, and matt fail to come out of a slump, because most people know those slumps are temporary. An interest in sabermetrics is not required to understand that.
Most people who read baseball blogs also notice when posters only post after embarrassing losses or in the middle of slumps and losing streaks. Most people recognize concern trolling for what it is.
Will we see you in august when we have won 10 of our last 14? Because I don’t recall many posts of yours in April when we were winning two of every three.
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by tom s. on May 27, 2010 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Umm, pretty sure he said he wasn't interested in numbers, Tom.
And guess what? “Number of over-the-top negative posts coming during rough patches” is a statistic. A useless one at that. You need to watch the posts, instead of trying to quantify them.
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Can we hire Ozzie Guillen for 1 day
just to go on a tirade about the offense and call the team out.
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
no kidding
On a related note, is it just me or has the umpiring seemed HORRENDOUS during this series? I mean, the strikezone has been all over the place and particularly wide.
There were a couple of times these last 2 games when I thought TLR might come out and get into the ump’s grill a little, particularly in some of the critical situations where (poorly) called strike set up a K (or backwards K).
I know it’s irrational, but I would LOVE to see some life from the manager. Go stick up for your team, take your frustrations out on the ump, and get tossed. Maybe it will light a fire, maybe not, but whatever’s been done to this point certainly has not.
You know, the strike zone is the strike zone,
but I do have a problem with these *’s injecting themselves into the game. After Freese had words after getting called out on strikes, the * umpire was following him towards the dugout still jawing at Freese. That guy needs to be reprimanded.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Yeah, that guy was out of line.
Did you hear Guillen’s quotes when Buehrle got called for 2 balks the other day? Funny stuff…something about how “this bleepin’ ump thinks the fans bleepin’ come out to bleepin’ see him” and a bunch more.
first base ump also took 2 seconds to rule every time
why? had to think about it? you’re being paid to react and be invisible
i want moar robots umping at home plate
It's like that with College basketball anymore, too.
The coaches really have had their ability to say anything to the refs cut in half. You don’t wee any of them being nearly as chirpy as they used to be.
Hasn’t this been steadily getting worse since the Umpire Strike? Or is it just a more recent thing that has just become blatantly terrible?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Umpires don't seem to strive for invisibility anymore.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Here's what we ought to do...
…Invent a gizmo that calls balls and strikes. Then position it right by the home plate umpire, but don’t turn it on. Just have it sitting right there. The message is clear…
“WE DON’T NEED YOU! JUST CALL BALLS AND STRIKES, DO IT WELL, AND SHUT THE HECK UP!!!”
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by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
just put pitch/fx on the jumbotron
That will shame them into getting it right in short order.
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get it out there this season
for Bobby Cox’s last hurrah
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
don't you mean bobby cocks?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda like a little kid that's not getting enough attention.
They start stomping around and slamming doors. "I"M AN UMP AND I’M IMPORTANT, DAMMIT!"
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
very recent mlb article on umpiring
Cardinals manager Tony La Russa, long thought of as one of the most inventive and proactive thinkers in the game, said that his team evaluates umpires as part of the process of charting their pitchers. La Russa also said that you can’t pitch to an umpire as much as you could a few decades ago, and he maintains that a hitter has enough to worry about without considering the umpire behind him.
“You can make an evaluation that one guy has got a tighter strike zone than somebody else,” he said. “But there’s no real consistency there.”
haha!
that’d be awesome. might actually work too.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
what if
tony went out to argue with the ump, but instead of saying anything, pulled out an iPad with gameday on it and shoved it in the ump’s face to show him how awful his strike zone judgment was. i’d think that would be a pretty solid way of calling the ump out. plus it would be really funny to see a manager ejected for using an iPad.
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
he would be ejected for use of electronics.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is that actually a rule?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
kind of.
it’s an unwritten rule that got written down. scroll down to March 31, 2000. everyone dug it up for the phillies sign-stealing thing.
meanwhile, there’s also this:
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/05/21/dont-bring-your-ipad-to-yankee-stadium/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he could take a picture of the ump throwing him out
and post it on facebook with a caption that says… Douche
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he'd get an endorsement deal
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
several thoughts
- assuming 600 PAs, holliday was payed $28,333 to strike out with the bases loaded. sign me up.
- it seems like albert and holliday are trying to pull EVERYTHING outside, resulting in lots of weak ground outs.
- the baserunning stuff reminds me of the cubs, which makes me sad.
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
Pujols and Holliday
have a higher % of balls hit to center, rather than to left, than at any other point in their respective careers.
so does this mean i'm just projecting?
i ask because it seems like they are both seeing a lot of outside pitches but hitting very few of them to right field. just curious about the reality as opposed to my increasingly warped perception.
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on May 27, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
they could be hitting the ball to center more and also pulling outside pitches
resulting in weak grounders – they aren’t mutually exclusive at all.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm actually more concerned that Holliday and Albert aren't pulling the ball ENOUGH.
Matt can’t seem to figure out how to get around on the pitch on the inside corner and Albert really doesn’t seem to be handling that pitch very well either right now. When Jon Garland is busting you inside, there’s something wrong.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I think it's kinda of a "one thing leads to another" type of issue.
If you’re struggling on the ball inside, you’re generally going to have trouble hitting the outside pitch the other way, because you’re starting your hands and weight shift earlier to get around on the ball inside.
Albert isn’t hitting those line shots off the wall in the RCF gap like we’ve seen him do so many times. He’s hitting a lot of singles up the middle and through the hole between SS and 3B, but he’s not really squaring up the ball inside and pummeling it. Holliday is whiffing a lot of balls on the inside 1/3 of the plate.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I want to scream at him at the beginning of his ABs
They are going inside on him seemingly on every AB and then going away to put him away. He should be mashing some of these pitches inner half.
Not afraid to nitpick
my view: Glaus syndrome
what has been bugging ME about Holliday is his sulking and bitching at the plate umpire. So often, after the first called strike on him, he has to back out and give the ump the glare. He too often reminds me of Troy G lately, and that ain’t good.
Stay in the box, concentrate, and just mash the damn ball. Holliday is a very strong boy; he should be able to do this.
I don’t recall feeling this way about his ‘complaining’ last year.
Like Albert's 8th inning AB last night?
definitely guessing, and getting it wrong, on all three pitches. (In hindsight, I should thank him for making me disgusted and turning the game off and getting a decent amount of sleep.)
by ArkansasTravs on May 27, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols killed a ball to right center last night
In any other ballpark that would have been a home run. As far as I am concerned, he hit a home run last night even if it doesn’t count in his stats.
by vivaelpujols on May 27, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
the one in extras?
if so, that was more straight away, which is 396
if not, ignore this comment
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
true
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The ball was caught at the warning track...
…in the shallowest part of that section of the OF. I’m not sure what the park has to do with that, unless you have some insight into the wind currents last night.
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by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it just me
or has the SB Nation Recent Stories box not updated in like two weeks?
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VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
Thanks Dan.
I wouldn’t care, except Aaron Fucking Harang’s handsome visage keeps staring down at me with the “Reds Top Cardinals” headline. Yuck.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure feels BCBish in here.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
i am sad.
‘cuz there’s no reason for it, if it is. even if this team doesn’t turn it around. which it will.
i know morneau better than morneau know morneau, and morneau knows it.
by Oedipa Maas on May 27, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
regardingin Lohse's impending surgery.. My wife has something in common with him
she is neither a track star or a motocross racer but she is going to have the same surgery, on her legs but still. Maybe they’ll be rehab buddies. I wonder if this Cali doc is in our network?
Last I heard, they were looking for a surgeon
who has done the surgery. I’m not sure it will be Shin.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
One of the kids on my soccer team had it done in STL.
The surgery pretty much consists of them putting slits in the compartment sheaths… But he was back earlier than 7 weeks… and he had it on both of his calfs…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
was it extreme compartment syndrome?
because the post fasciotomy on wikipedia don’t like the kind of thing that happens to a pitcher’s arm and allows him to every pitch again
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
kids heal faster
and i bet that kid’s body part of his wasn’t worth 10 mil a year
they need to put some thought into this and even if kyle doesn’t pitch for us for a while or again, doesn’t mean they should take it lightly with who does the procedure and risk ending his career
One article (on the P-D if I remember)
seemed to indicate that he might be able to pitch w/o the surgery, but would have to switch to relief. I wonder if the Cards have any insurance on his contract?
by ArkansasTravs on May 27, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they need to get a specialist from oceania, or perhaps pangea.
but there ya go.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 28, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions
i've probably been totally nextdef'd on this
but was that dick freaking enberg on the padres call last night?
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 27, 2010 12:10 PM EDT reply actions
dc
has retired to calling Pads games, yes. it was nice to hear
i know morneau better than morneau know morneau, and morneau knows it.
by Oedipa Maas on May 27, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i always liked him
but hearing him call that hairston home run last night was nasty. either way, and people will probably disagree with me here, but i think enberg is at his absolute best doing grand slam tennis. just awesome to hear him call wimbledon.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 27, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yadier Melinda
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Moleenda!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
JoeStrauss: Seems like the fan base a wee bit agitated this morning. It’s what happens when folks break curfew to watch a bad loss.
29 minutes ago
eff you joe strauss
yeah mr. midnight teaser
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
why is joe strauss such a dick?
serious question. He just seems to have a fly up his ass every single day.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 28, 2010 6:52 AM EDT up reply actions
hfs
wait, kyle lohse needs surgery? oh my. can i summon the “everyone let’s overreact and trade for roy oswalt discussion” or has that been sufficiently hashed out.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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That's not gonna happen
You know that Ed Wade is now holding out for Stephen Strasburg because Steve Phillips would do that deal right now.
I think the Astros should hire Steve Phillips as President of Baseball Operations so we can concentrate the locus of dumb in one baseball city.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I agree
Steve Phillips is a damn fool. His rant against Beltran last year in that Sunday Night Baseball broadcast actually made Joe Morgan look like he had a clue about something. If that’s not the bottom of the barrel, I don’t know what is. I don’t think it’s ever occurred to Phillips that when a player ages it matters considerably less what his name is and what kind of a winner he is because his skills will diminish significantly. Roy Oswalt is old, expensive, and declining. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a pretty good pitcher still… but you’ll be buying the 2005 Oswalt and getting the 2010 one.
Then again, I guess you can’t expect intelligence from someone who argued that pitchers earn their run support by setting off a vibe around the team on days they pitched, or who didn’t have enough sense to keep his hands off his fellow employees at ESPN. He would be a perfect GM for that organization, he could make terrible deals for aging “winners” and then be shocked when the team finishes 78-84 every year.
VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009
by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
heh...78 wins for Phillips would actually be a success.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
So would <250 pounds of employee
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on May 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Boom! That just happened.
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by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oswalt is having one of the best seasons in his career
And I think he’ll end up being worth right about his contract over the next two years. The problem is that his contract is just too damned expnesive for this team to afford given all of their other obligations.
by vivaelpujols on May 27, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
So, rather than agonize over these two awful loses
I’ve been watching a pair of Cardinals building a nest. It’s about 6 feet from my window. Mama Card keeps bringing building material while Papa Card supervises.
It’s therapeutic.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions
Not sure why I capitalized cardinal every time there.
Old habits die hard… is a bullshit excuse. (shrug)
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
"Papa Card supervises"
male chauvinist bullshit!
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
reply fail.
It’s just a slump, I’ll regress.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
someone run a statistic on veb
to check what the most used two word combination is (excluding player names)
i bet it’s “reply fail”
posts are played on the board
not on the spreadsheet….especially since the posts are stored in a relational database that isn’t anything at all like a spreadsheet…
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
You've just summarized my day.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
on second thought
excel has line limit of 65536
that’s like half a season of comments
1. export to spreadsheet csv, use spss
So I don't have to read the threads any more?
I can just wait for the spreadsheets to update? Awesome.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus cat pictures don't work well with spreadsheets.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Toaster _____
Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.
by the red baron on May 27, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You deserved the win...
but tripped rounding third and got into a rundown..
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
W-L is a terrible stat for reply fails
I prefer Pip+ (posts in play adjusted)
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Men are pigs
even when they’re birds.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
it seems like they have been working counts to no avail
I’m predicting a TLR “aggressive” memo soon
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
o please not
i know morneau better than morneau knows morneau, and morneau knows it.
by Oedipa Maas on May 27, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
strauss complaining of migranes
just wait will i smack you over the head with a big cast iron pan
then you’ll know what pain is
I have a big cast iron pan that you can borrow
if it would help expedite this scenario.
I also have a smaller one if you’d prefer the additional pan speed you could generate.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take the smaller one
Not for the speed, but because when you hit someone in the jaw the force is concentrated in a smaller area. It’s the same principle with MMA vs. Boxing gloves.
Not afraid to nitpick
16 days till application for citizenship
once through, i’ll take both of those
can you draw me a unicorn on the bigger one while we wait?
Why bother with the DL?
Just DFA his ass.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 27, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
10 second snippet of existence
FESPN on at work, Adrian Beltre wanted to be Fat Miles but couldn’t get his knee down fast enough.
/back to work :(
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 27, 2010 1:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah so...
I went to bed last night after the game really pissed off. Then I woke up and realized that the offense and the baserunning could not be playing any worse and they are still only 1 game out of first and still over 500. However, then my cynical Joe Strauss jaded mind got me thinking about the offensive woes (video addiction etc…). It was after I got out of the shower and about killed myself tripping over my cat walking down the stairs that I realized something. Holliday has been here less than a year so he is not such a prime target for the bad habits that the team has developed for a few years. Albert is Ridiculous and if ridiculousness has any integrity at all… Albert will start tearing the holy shit out of the ball soon. This made me feel a little better after such a steaming turd of a game last night.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions
I feel like we could all use a moment to chill out
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
just getting ready to comment
that skip and luddy’s big hits were lost in the later RISP fail…2 doubles for the schu-man last night (I don’t care if one was durango-aided)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
yay skippy
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I refuse to believe the bullpen's story of Skip's self-proclaimed nickname
he can’t possibly want to be called that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and yet it is so tempting to use it.........
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
cool, thanks
it’s kind of… what do they call it… meta. players miked up talking about broadcasting a baseball game.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thanks for posting this
so funny to hear these guys chatter away.
Currently selling signature space. All offers considered.
by RosevilleRedbird on May 27, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn't realize he was Irish
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
skip must have been constantly frustrated this season so far
first he struggles and makes errors that are magnified by everyone
then he is constantly made a LOBster
can’t catch an effin break
i would hate being a lobster
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
last year in the game threads
I used to lament that they needed to be brought home
they were alllll alone out there
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
depends on how you make lobsters...
do they hump or something? how does that work?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate it when that happens
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind Freese getting a day off and having Lopez at third, boog at ss, and ss at 2nd
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
so boog and his indefinite range will play both MI positions?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
surely not
MI and outfield
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The ultimate Dave Duncan Pitching philosophy would allow him to be the battery
Just never throw a pitch that the opposition misses… ULTIMATE pitch to contact… all he has to do it pitch and then cover the plate
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
he'd get lit up then fall apart
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ss=skip schumaker
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I was deliberately trying to be crafty
guess it worked!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to play along
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
are you left-handed? we can't hit you?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
haah
not left handed, but I may be from out of left field
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
So I'm listening to Charlie Steiner call the Dodgers/Cubs
And John Ely is pitching. He has his family in attendance for the game (as he grew up in Chicago). However, he grew up a die hard sox fan and so he hates the cubs. Well they were talking about his family and they said that his dad couldn’t make it. 1) Because he is wheel chair bound and Wrigley is hard for someone in a wheel chair to navigate 2) Because his dad hates the cubs so much that he refuses to go to Wrigley.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions
i must say that i am really enjoying Charlie Steiner and Rick Monday
they are really entertaining
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
kill me now
we get destroyed by this guy? really?
But while Norris has often been dominant, his control remains scattershot. He has issued 5.36 BB/9, with just 43.8% of his pitches crossing the dish (48-51% MLB average in recent years). Bud’s getting behind hitters more than most, with a 56.6% rate of first pitch strikes. The big league average sits around 58%.
..
Norris has also stranded just 58.9% of base runners, well south of his 78 LOB% in 2009 and the typical 70-72% range for big league pitchers.
I really wish he wasn't in our division
I’d prefer not playing him again this season
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
remember when the Astros changed their rotation so Wandy could meet us?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they would do that
wouldn’t they
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
no, they really did.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's what I meant
or said, or whatever
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, you're saying Bud might be rotated in?
well yeah. Bud Norris looked at the schedule and time itself re-adjusted.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I just didn't know that they did that
and I was saying it was something they would do
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
hey evilfrog
is it me or does Mitch Boggs look like a bigger version of Trever, now?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he looks like he should be on a beard commercial
or a fishing show
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
he scoooores!!!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert just needs a clean shave
that always meant he was about to go off in the past
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
then i'm out of ideas.
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
I'm bringin' back "heh heh heh"
…we were a better team when it was used.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
remember April 2010
those were good times, back then
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, I do *sniff*
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Maaaan, i has a sad now.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
we'll sing the old songs and look at the old photoshop
which is mysteriously sepia, now. ohhh the memories.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
back when the biggest concern
was the inability to close out a sweep
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Roster move
RT @Fox_Sports_MW Fernando Salas is with the team is with the team; no move announced yet.
I would assume Lohse to the DL. I guess Hawk could go to DL as well. I wouldnt be surprised and if so Ottovino up is my guess
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
whoa nelly.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm wrong
Samuel is on the 40-man. But the 40-man count is less than 40 so there shouldn’t be an issue adding him.
I’d expect Hawksworth to hit the DL for saturday’s starter (Ottavino).
Think; It's not illegal yet.
if lohse is put on the 60-day
doesn’t the club get to add to the 40 even if it’s full – like we can replace lohse with salas, but it’s not a permanent spot for salas, as he could later be removed with no danger of losing him? i thought there was some such rule when the DL stint was that long.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I need the flash card
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Good command
low-90s velocity(92/93), good breaking ball. His stuff plays up because of his command.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
thanks
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Salas up, Lohse to DL
RT @BJRains Kyle Lohse to the DL…..reliever Fernando Salas up from Triple-A Memphis
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
whoaaaa nelly
the club has optioned outfielder Joe Mather in order to clear roster room for reliever Fernando Salas.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
How's that work?! So lohse hits DL, Salas up, Mather down...
…that’s a net move of -1, yes?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
my favorite shows always get canceled.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 27, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the question is
what if Miles comes up and they win 20 out of the next 25?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
someone has to keep an eye on Boog
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I will not watch baseball games that Aaron Miles is involved in
I certainly will not attend baseball games that both Miles and FatMiles might both play.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on May 27, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
how long until
TLR pinch hits with fat miles and sends awkwardly pudgy miles in for defense in hopes that the umps won’t notice it’s not the same guy?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
OMG can you imagine a starting lineup with those two?
by vivaelpujols on May 27, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
whatever that stat was you ladies invented
it just went down
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
they might be clustering all their roster moves right now
because the Redbirds are in Fresno tonight, and then they move back to Memphis for a homestand.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Tonights lineup
Ryan SS
Ludwick CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Freese 3B
Stavinoha RF
LaRue C
Schumaker 2B
Walters SP
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
yeah, LeBlanc (I think)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Smooth = Mather?
I hate to say it, but I think I’d rather see the chair at this point. Mather has not earned his nickname
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I heard it back is sore
from swinging and missing so much
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
it = his
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
poor little red riding.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
can they honestly do any worse?
it took 18 innings to score so I’ve decided since, 18-(13-9)=14, that the cardinals will win 1-0 in the 14th inning
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
And Walters gets the CG win, 14 innings deep.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
on only 112 pitches
Duncan is shown asking the equipment manager for more towels in the dugout
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on May 27, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure if I would call the padres' offense wolves
unless a-gon goes on a tear. but then again, they have that hairston guy, what a slugger.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
ah shit
freakin stavinoha starting?? f that
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
...back to the dugout after striking out
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
and is faster and plays 5x better defense
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
walked twice last night
and made two outs on the basepaths. Then strike out twice. We are facing a lefty. Let the kid sit.
I'd rather see Lopez in the outfield than Stav tbh
or Jay, or Mather, or whoever
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
5:35 CST
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
hopefully the sun will help
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
OT: What's with pitch FX?
I haven’t been around here very often so I don’t know if this has been talked about, but why if Pitch FX showing such high percentages for 2-seam fastballs. I’ve looked at several pitchers: Ubaldo Jiminez, Chris Carpenter, Kyle Lohse, Roy Halladay, Aj Burnett, and the average of the league, all have drastically increased two-seam fastball percentages. Did every pitcher in the league get together and decide to throw two-seamers way more often or is pitch FX missing something? Most of the pitchers I’ve looked at have two-seam rates at around 20% higher, and Ubaldo’s is 50% higher. What is up?
Onubon > Gates
why is* Pitch FX
and those pitchers I named are the ones I looked at, there’s probably a lot more like that if I had to guess.
Onubon > Gates
What site are you using?
Because it’s going to make a difference as to classifications. For example, Texas Leaguers (the site I use) reclassified 2 and 4 seam fastballs this offseason.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Fangraphs uses the Gameday classifications
And it certainly seems that Gameday has been a little 2-seam happy this year so far.
Not afraid to nitpick
You can bet your ass I'm print screening that and framing it!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on May 27, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ok
Because I was just looking at Ubaldo Jiminez, and I was thinking that was the reason for his success since he throws a two seamer 50% of the time now as opposed to .8% of the time.
Onubon > Gates
Well Ubaldo Jimenez may very well be throwing more two-seamers
But you should look at the actual movement/velocity of his pitches to determine that. The classifications aren’t going to tell you much though.
by vivaelpujols on May 27, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Even then it's pretty hard with guys like him,
because even his 4 seamer has some lateral movement to it from the graphs I looked at the other day. You know, kinda like classifying Brad Penny… /ducks/
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
His velo legitimately has gone up this year and the movement hasn't changed too much from what I looked at
I doubt he’s throwing more 2-seamers
Not afraid to nitpick
what would happen if I don't charge my new blackberry for 24 hours and only charge it for 4 before I activate it
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:33 PM EDT reply actions
in theory your bat life gets weaker
I’ve personally never done a full 24 hour charge in my life.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
yeah I didn't do that with my last phone and it is fine
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine the real issue is with calibration of battery life remaining from the phone's end.
I don’t believe a non-fully-charged battery loses a significant capacitance if the initial charge isn’t full.
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Something like this
Dr. Peter Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, “biblical”?
Dr Ray Stantz: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor, real wrath of God type stuff.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Exactly.
Dr Ray Stantz: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!
Dr. Egon Spengler: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…
Winston Zeddemore: The dead rising from the grave!
Dr. Peter Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!
Or just decreased battery life. This is a carryover from the old NiCD days when not fully charging would cause loss of battery capacity.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on May 27, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha!
you going to be at veb day this year? pretty sure I will be
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope...had a conflict with the weekend that got chosen.
It’s quite possible that, for the first time since 1995, I might not make a Cardinals game this year.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
hopefully we'll all raise a victory goblet in celebration
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I think Li-Ion has no "memory effect" if I'm not mistaken...
…I know NiCd’s suffered pretty badly, and the effect was reduced in NiMH…but I think the key advantage on Li-Ion is that they don’t have capacitance loss, and they’re significantly smaller, to boot.
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Suck it; you suck
Agreed.
Also, I remember back a few years ago when your phone took a huge download of stuff right when you registered and activated it, so the company always was making sure that you charged it enough that it didn’t die during that.
I saw the other day that a company has figured out a way to get twice the capacitance out of the same size LiON batteries — that’s a good boon for EV’s in the future one would think.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yeah, but BP might shoot their load everywhere again if EV's really take off
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Suck it; you suck
have you guys ever thought about what it might be like whenever tony and company are gone?
do you think that the rabid tony haters will become homers for whoever replaces him and the rabid tony defenders will become haters themselves?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
I am kind of looking forward to it
just because it will be different. ideally I’d like to see duncan stay somehow though, and replace the rest of the staff.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i agree
i really wish that there was some way that we could get joe maddon from the rays… he grew up a cards fan… and he is an out of the box thinker
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
who's that?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that's a misspelled "john"
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Suck it; you suck
ah...
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
did i just get insulted or complimented?
i have no idea
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 27, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't like to think about those days.
And then I remember that Art Howe won a lot of baseball games because he had a great front office making the decisions on players, then lost a shitload of games with the Mets because he had an inept front office making the decisions for him.
Is Art Howe a good manager in one place and a bad manager in another place? No, he just had more to work with and a better management structure in one place.
As long as Mo, Luhnow, and DeWitt continue to make good payroll, draft, trade, and talent decisions that should help the next manager be successful. I’d personally like to see Buck Showalter as I think he’d be a great fit here. Anybody but Davey Johnson — fucking pond scum!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
yeah
we are lucky to have good gm, owner, etc
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
If anybody can help
I’m doing a research project on sports philanthropy and I’m currently working on the Cardinals. I’ve documented Albert’s foundation, ARF, Cardinals Care (including Redbird Rookies), Trever Miller’s 5k race, and Waino’s work with Catch-A-Dream.
If anyone knows of a Cardinal-related charity initiative or event that I’m missing, could you give me a link or at least give me some suggestions to google?
Mike matheny did some good stuuf
with fields for disabled kids.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no 25 cent drinks, regardless
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Mark McGwire has a foundation, I believe.
Trever Miller does a bunch of charity work. I can get you more info on that when I’m near my Media Guide tonight.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
you're right about McGwire
The only thing that came up from googling Miller was the 5k. If you want to send me more info, feel free to e-mail me at bdmf36@gmail.com. I’d appreciate it.
I'm posting this here, just because.
I’ll e-mail it as well.
Trever Miller is on the board of directors of Easter Seals and the Miracle League of Florida. In Feb 2008 he co-hosted a celebrity golf tourny at Feathersound for a new baseball field for the Miracle League in Hillsborough County. In 04 – 05 he contributed $500 per appearance (121 appearances – $60,500), split among All Children’s Hospital, Ronald McDonald House, and DOC16. Contributed to Strikeouts for Troops in 2006.
His third child, Grace, was born with a genetic disorder which caused two holes in her heart.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 28, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
If past Cards count...
Pags has an annual charity event in northwest Arkansas every year. I don’t remember what the event or charity is, but I remember hearing about it on the news.
by ArkansasTravs on May 27, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
apparently, he does quite a bit
good website, too. i’m not sure if it’s totally relevant because it is in connection with the Arkansas baseball program, but i can probably still use it.
Yea, I knew it was
but thought I’d mention it anyway. The, somewhat, odd thing about this is that Pags lives in Arkansas, does this charity work, etc., and he only played for Arkansas for one year after transferring from Jr. college somewhere else. I think, but don’t remember for sure, that the coach then (Norm DeBryin (sp?)) changed him from 3B to catcher and Pags credits his MLB career to that move.
by ArkansasTravs on May 27, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Just met and shook hands with Jack Zduriencik
Step one of being a GM by age 27 is complete.
Step two: Mustering up the cajones to ask him to lunch
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
is he trying to get in his pants?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
so... networking?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is that what the kids call it these days?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
hooking up via facebook then texting right after? I don't see a real difference.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
In the words of John Cusack,
“I skate, you skate—we skate. So I was thinking maybe we could get together and… be a skating team.”
opening gambit:
“So, how’s that whole “defense is the new offense” thing going for ya, big guy?"
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 28, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions
OT: What the heck is the obsession with the iPad?
They’re large-scale iPods with less computing power than a tablet PC…
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Suck it; you suck
I thought the same thing
But everybody I’ve met who’s used one LOVES it. I guess it’s just one of those things you have to try for yourself
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
But...i don't particularly love ipods or iphones....
…I just….
…I hate Apple.
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Suck it; you suck
Hating corporations, to me, are just a waste of energy
Especially if they’re not fucking up the environment or economy in any serious way. Apple found a business model that works and makes them a lot of money (as evidenced by them overtaking MSFT’s market cap).
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Apple are not a good corporation
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Minus the Foxconn stuff (which if you blame Apple for, you're dumb), what negative press has Apple received?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I could easily list a ton of stuff but I'm at work
maybe later lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
microsoft gives tons more to charity, for one
and doesn’t try to control the hardware components. apple makes you buy everything through them and lessens competition. not that microsoft is a saint, but they are better than apple. why should you have to buy everthing including hardware from the same company.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Working here at Safeco, I've heard nothing but good things about dealing with Microsoft
They seem like a great organization.
Regarding the second part of the post, though, those are just business decisions that work for them. If you don’t want more customization with your products, there are plenty of other options, but Apple’s obviously found a niche where they can be successful
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm not sure how apple hurts competition
they don’t have a big enough share of anything to do it. Microsoft once owned the vast majority of the OS market—that’s a far bigger threat to competitive balance than one company making everything that runs on their own hardware is. It’s like suggesting Nintendo is a threat to the videogame market’s competitive balance because they won’t let people run homebrew on the Wii.
I could understand an argument that they hurt "innovation"
but I’m not sure that’s true either. The reason they’re so successful has been their ability to innovate new products and consumer solutions better than anyone else.
Blaming them for DRM is just stupid — that’s the music industry, not Apple.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
yes
Apple Itunes has their own DRM, it is not stupid. it is a fact.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
trust me
I know more about music and the music industry, and have friends who are constantly posting articles on this stuff that I read. Apple is making money hand over fist through itunes
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I can get you more specific links later
but some of my friends in the industry hate itunes
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
music on iTunes is no longer DRMed at all
Using it at the beginning was a precondition of getting agreements from the major labels, I’d imagine.
This is just bad information from secondary people then.
Apple currently has no DRM on their music store. It has DRM for Apple TV and the movie store due to industry agreements.
Steve Jobs stated openly a few years ago that he never wanted DRM for his music store but that the labels wanted to “protect” their profit margins. Knowing what I know about the music industry, this is pretty easy to take at face value.
I would guess that the industry DOES hate iTunes because they’ve cut into their profit margins. If the big labels had gotten their shit together and put together a music store with every significant label and artist attached, they’d have blown iTunes out of the water. But they didn’t — they thought people still wanted CD’s and albums.
I’m sorry, but iTunes is a HUGE success because it caters to 90% of the music buying market. I personally don’t use it as I prefer Amazon and eMusic, but to say it’s evil is missing the point. It turned the industry on it’s head. How is that a bad thing?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
it doesn't just hurt the big labels
is the point
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 28, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Apple just overtook MS fwiw
they both have their own proprietary operating systems. but you can put ubuntu, etc on a microsoft machine. not sure if you can do that with an apple
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
you can run windows on a mac, if you want
the problem with competition in the mid-nineties wasn’t that if you were an HP owner you couldn’t run some other OS on it, the problem was that if you were HP you couldn’t put some other OS on your computer and expect to have any real success.
Apple overtook MS in OS usage?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
mobile OS, definitely
but microsoft still owns most of the desktop OS market, and it’s not very close.
Ok, that makes sense
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Apple overtook MS in market cap.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The value of Apple's stock surpassed the value of Microsoft's
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i understand stock value
just not privy to the lingo like “market cap”
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
in money
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 28, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
Microsoft had it right in 1980 — the software was the thing.
Apple’s had it right since 2001 — the DEVICE is the thing.
The rest of the industry is still figuring this out. HP buying Palm was smart. Google developing a phone OS and licensing it to phone making companies is smart.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
sorry
but I want more competition from other hardware makers, I don’t want it just coming from one company.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 28, 2010 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions
well,
a PC is clearly expected to have a much broader range of functionality than a gaming console. now, sony and (to an extent) microsoft are changing this line of thinking, but it’s not fully accurate to refer to a ps3 as just a gaming console anymore
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i wasn't really commenting on that, sorry
just saying, as a consumer, it pisses me off
it hinders innovation and restricts what i am allowed to use my device for
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
don't get me wrong, I run homebrew content on my wii anyway
but when it comes to developers using flash or not using flash I’d rather apple take a hard line while it has the leverage than have to deal with applications that are the 21st century equivalent of really ugly, nominally cross-platform java apps from the late nineties.
i read apple's release
about why they won’t use flash. i agree that flash sucks and html5 is the future, but html5 is exactly that. the future. flash is the standard now and any web device that doesn’t support it is taking away from browsing experience of its users. it’s going to be awesome when html5 is the standard, though
flash isn’t my biggest concern, though, as i will never own a netbook or tablet. apple rejecting stuff like google voice from the app store and rendering the phone functionality of my iphone useless when it’s plugged into a non-apple charger are much bigger complaints
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
not that this is relevant to the original point...
but one could argue that Apple’s patent and litigation strategy stifles competition. Many of their process patents are overly broad (IMO) and they’ve been increasingly active in attempting to enforce them (Nokia, HTC, etc.)
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It's functional design dude
why should you have to buy everthing including hardware from the same company.
They want total control of what goes into their products from parts, software, and (most importantly) design — that was Jobs’ vision when he first began that Macintosh program clear back in 1981.
By doing so, they are able to patent and license things in order to increase the profitability of all their products, while keeping the competition from making knock offs of those products that also function in a similar fashion. This also allows them to stay one step ahead of everyone else while the competition struggles to catch up.
Give me break about “other” mp3 players prior to the iPod. I owned a few of them — they were fucking awful devices to load music, play music, hook up headphones, etc. Most of them had less than 2 GB of drive space. Then Apple comes out with an iPod that holds 20 GB of songs! With an interface that’s intuitive, easy to use, and can be used with one hand! If you can’t appreciate the beauty of that original design I don’t know what to say.
The reason they’re “podcasts” is because the type of format didn’t take off until people had a way to carry a 50 MB file around with them to listen to. You couldn’t put more than 3 or 4 on any other player and burning them to CD’s was a huge waste of CD’s. After the iPod, the “webcasting” of one hour shows took off because of the ease of putting them on the iTunes store and the ease of uploading them to a device that could hold both music and webcasts at the same time. I don’t blame Google for everyone referring to web search as Google, just like I don’t blame Apple for “podcasts”.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
internet radio is what it is called
not a podcast
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
internet radio was already a format
Podcast rhymes with broadcast, evoked the devices most people were using to listen to them—I’m not sure why you have such a problem with it.
But it's not Internet Radio
Internet Radio was and still is a format. Pandora is “Internet Radio”. So is NPR’s News Radio stream.
Podcasts are a whole different animal. It’s anyone with a microphone and a computer putting together a talk show type format to talk about whatever they want to talk about. It’s done for DIY broadcasting what RSS feeds did for blogs.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I just don’t like the word podcast. no big deal.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 28, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't think what you're describing is a concern for competition -
perhaps it’s a marketing concern because it makes you not want to buy their products.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 27, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think it's weird that all this technology was available before apple put their branding stamp on it
and then made a bunch of money off of it. but such is capitalism I guess. not always (or even usually) the innovator that makes all the money, it’s the person who makes it popular
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 28, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I don't really hate 'em, per se...I just fail to see the overall hype in all of their products.
..The general public acts as if every product is a godsend…
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me too
the worst part is that they get free branding because most companies now say “ipod or itunes compatible” when there were mp3 players out for years before they made one, and winamp far predates itunes. yet they are now standard usage. don’t get me started on the word “podcast”, dumbest word ever.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
None of that is Apple's fault
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I smell a fanboy
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yeah
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm honestly not. I like their products, but as a rule, I find it a waste of time to hate corporations
I don’t hate Wal-Mart, I don’t hate McDonalds… They provide a product that people want
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I could go for a Big Mac
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
are ipods mp4s?
or did I make that up?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I don't think so
fuck their drm policies, and all those shitty ipods with short life batteries that were sold for the first year or two, and all those 128k mp3s that were sold for a dollar each. omg don’t get me started on them
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a Nano but only use it when I run (where did I put that again?)
my wife has a touch and she loves it. she uses it for multiple things…she likes to feel cool
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I almost got an ipod touch just because it has wifi
but now I gots the blackberry wooo! can’t wait to hop on some wifi with it
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Because the only people who have bought them are Apple nuthuggers
They would like it if it was powered by the user having to move a ShakeWeight type system to charge the battery.
Not afraid to nitpick
Um
Why do people love the Kindle? That’s the better question.
The iPad is a Kindle with more usability, more apps, and internet access.
As a tech savvy consumer, I think the whole thing is blown out of proportion, honestly, but I can see why luddites would love the device after I played around with it at the Genius Bar the other night. It’s very easy to use and intuitive….as an e-book reader or blog reading device.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
ludwick's fans love them?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
People like the Kindle??
I think the only awesome thing about the kindle is its use of the EVDO network
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Suck it; you suck
People like the iPad?
I’ve heard nothing but mixed reviews about it, really.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Gizmodo
loves Apple too. Most people I know who are early adopters have a lot of mixed feelings about it. My two apple loving friends haven’t replaced their 60 GB Touch’s with an iPad yet because they really aren’t seeing the increase in functionality for an extra $200.
I’m an Engadget guy myself.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I see a lot of kindles on the train here in chicago
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I love my kindle
it’s to the iPad what the ipad is to my laptop—it’s an internet-enabled book reader that I’m willing to take places I wouldn’t take an iPad, if I had one, the battery lasts forever, and the display is perfect for reading (and nothing else.)
What you're essentially saying is that these new products are filling in the gaps
Before there was a laptop or nothing.
Now, if you don’t need a gaming computer and just need to browse the internet a little bit, you have the iPad
If all you need is a repository to hold your eBooks with a great screen, then you have the kindle
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
more or less
I don’t think I’ll ever own all three, though—after this laptop dies I’m buying a desktop computer and some kind of tablet.
I was always a console gamer; the idea of device specialization has a certain appeal to me.
If the Kindle
had wifi and hooked up to the internet so I could browse, I’d have one. But it doesn’t, so I don’t. I read far too many blogs, online newspapers, and online magazine articles to sink money into a device that only syncs with one bookstore and that I can’t get half of my magazine subscriptions on.
The money on the Kindle is in the software, imo.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
the 3G is (theoretically) unlimited
but no amount of wi-fi would make the browsing experience not suck. It’s just a limitation of the display.
Agreed
And that’s why I don’t have one. I can carry around e-books on my netbook and read them that way, while still being able to check my email and surf the web if I want. Or post on VEB.
The Kindle is a device that does one thing well — that’s just not worth much to me.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
speaking as an apparent "apple nuthugger"
the idea of it is that constantly increased computing power is less important than an operating system (and form factor) that’s designed to do most of what people do on a computer every day. I think it’s a mostly successful attempt, and I think that people who attribute its success entirely (or even mostly) to what is and has always been a small group of Apple diehards is missing out on a large market. HP saw it, Google sees it, and Microsoft probably wishes they weren’t looking at it.
I think you underrate the size of the contingent that will buy literally anything Apple could come out with
I get the iPad, it serves a purpose for some people, but it just isn’t the type of revolutionary device that Jobs and so many other people have mentioned it being. I’ve played with one, it’s pretty intuitive, but so long as you have a laptop and a non-infinite budget, the average user isn’t getting much out of it. If you have a desktop and are looking for something mobile basically just to browse the web, I get it, but it’s not that big of a segment IMO.
Not afraid to nitpick
I think "desktop and are looking for something mobile basically just to browse the web"
is a huge segment, and I think it’ll be getting a lot bigger soon. That already describes the netbook market, and having used a netbook for a while I don’t see them standing a chance against tablets or even smartbooks that run purpose-built operating systems. Using anything beyond Firefox and Microsoft Office on a netbook is enough of a nightmare that the novelty of being able to run full Windows 7 software wears off pretty quickly, in my experience.
I also think a lot of people who own full-sized laptops (like me) bought one in part because they wanted to carry the internet around. I do all my work at a desk, but I waste time on the computer in bed, downstairs, etc.
Agreed
That’s why the new Ubuntu system is really interesting and why HP bought Palm — so they could get their hands on webOS, which is a really good netbook system that needs some good hardware with it.
I think in 5 years the “laptop” segment is going to be wearing thin while the “tablet” segment is huge. Just looking at the proliferation of smartphones one can see the demand for small, light, smart, web-enabled devices.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I should say "just to browse the web and do nothing else"
Outside of a select few professions, the iPad isn’t going to be used as a business tool, which is where 90% of computers are sold anyway. I would much rather type on a netbook keyboard than a touch screen, and certainly if/when I have to be going through documents/spreadsheets/data on a regular basis, the tablets aren’t going to cut it. It’s useful for the internet and related reading apps, but not much else as far as actual getting work done.
I really don’t think too many people get laptops JUST to carry the internet around—-that’s might be the primary purpose, but between handling business stuff on the go/taking notes/doing whatever…….the ability to type much more efficiently is a big deal.
Not afraid to nitpick
I disagree
Tablet PC’s have a ton of uses, just probably not without pairing them with another device. What I don’t like about the iPad is it’s price and it’s lack of external inputs and outputs. It has a ton of utility if you could use it as a presentation device, speech writing device, POS device, inventory system management device — but all those things require external data input and you can’t hook anything up to an iPad. Future tablets will be able to hook up to external video, have USB ports, etc. Apple just doesn’t serve that segment of the market. That’s for Dell and HP to do.
Netbooks have become a huge segment based pretty much on price and portability (and manufacturers being stupid and not offering a low cost, web browsing alternative to the $750 entry level laptop).
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Well I just have a laptop and use it for everything
VEB, school work, data mining stuff, downloading music, watching House/Simpsons/porn online, facebook, email, etc.
I can probably do half of those things on an Ipad and not as effectively as I do them on a laptop. I just don’t understand what an Ipad gives you over a laptop. Are there really people who only use computers to surf the web (and not use any third party scripts which Apple denies) or listen to music or read books?
by vivaelpujols on May 27, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Porn
Hehehehe
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by redbirdnation8206 on May 27, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
google OS qill be dominating
the netbook market within 5 years. book it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
if there's a netbook market in five years, I wouldn't be surprised.
Certainly Microsoft doesn’t have an OS to adequately compete with it, and Apple and Palm/HP don’t seem interested. Chrome OS looks even more featureless than iPhone OS X, so I’m not sure why you’d be excited by the prospect, though.
it doesn't do anything
it’ll basically just be google chrome with the ability to play music and maybe a few other things
if i were to describe myself as excited about it, it would only be because it would mean a full blown google operating system is that much closer
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I really hope Apple, Google, MS and HP/Palm
are going at it hammer and tongs in the netbook, tablet, and phone markets in 5 years. Competition is good for devices like that.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's the thing
If HP doesn’t fuck up webOS too bad and pairs it with some hardware that can really take advantage of it’s card system (read LOTS OF RAM) it has a chance to literally blow the iPad out of the water at a far cheaper price. WebOS is actually a better system than what the iPad and iPhone run on (I’ve used both), but Palm just couldn’t pair it with really good hardware.
Same thing with Android tablets. I think we’re going to find more and more people interested in getting these for all the stuff they used to go to newsstands for and much much more than that.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Beverly Hills sports council thingy
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/05/dan-lozano-leaves-beverly-hills-sports-council.html
Albert is moving on with Lozano
Lopez not known to retained or not
Ludwick staying on with the original group. for now.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's gonna be brutal... but it's okay. Yadier is armed.
Catcher Yadier Molina gets a rare day off as the Cardinals are in a brutal stretch in which they play three games in less than 72 hours. The Cardinals leave San Diego for an afternoon tilt tomorrow at Wrigley Field. Molina’s foul ball Wednesday did damage within the press box as his shot wiped out the laptop belonging to San Diego Union-Tribune scribe Bill Center.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also allowing the apparent contradiction-in-terms
“Molina hits a hard foul to center”.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 28, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions
might be nexdef but Tulo hit his fifth HR in his last 7 games off of The Young Arizona Ace
5 in his last 7 after 1 in his first 40 I would slit the old wrists on Lego and the Mang yet
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
huh, lou just came out and pulled baker off third and replaced him with fontenot
after baker didn’t budge on a grounder into left.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Another move coming...
RT @Fox_Sports_MW Jim Hayes also reporting Adam Ottavino is in the clubhouse. Not on list of available pitchers on lineup.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
So I guess it's..
Lohse to DL
Mather to AAA
Salas and Ottovino up?
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
More fun news via teh twitterz
RT @2xAught7 On 101ESPN: apparently, Pujols admitted to Angels personnel that he’s got a bum knee related to his back issues, which he injured in spring.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
I don't understand why Pujols is talking to Angels personnel
He does play for the Cardinals and not the Angels right?
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
Joellllllllllllll
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Isn't on the Cardinals anymore
Pujols needs to talk about injury issues to the CARDINALS medical “staff”
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
he's just trying to trick the other teams into pitching to him with RISP
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
it's Chat Albert, man
he talks to everybody about everything
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Doesn't need to be talking
To anyone but the Cardinals med staff about injuries IMO. That’s just stupid and asking for the media to blow it out of proportion.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
This sounds like a Howard for Pujols trade rumor
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
when people get older
they compare injuries
happens here on VEB all the time. now if the term was “consulting with medical staff”, that’s different. for all we know, “admitted” is somebody asked him why he was favoring a knee and he answered in less than five words.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm sure he did
but i imagine angels personnel are more likely to leak it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
wtf happened in chicago?!?!
cst_cubs: Baker left game with complete loss of vision in right eye. Being examined. 4 minutes ago via txt Retweeted by dgoold
cst_cubs cst_cubs:Z at hospital. Appndicitis like symptoms. Stay tuned. 5 minutes ago via txt Retweeted by dgoold and 2 others
Power outages, freak injuries
are locusts next?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i was watching the game and noted that move above
it was odd. he was playing third, ground ball hit, and he never moved – brenley said it was as if he didn’t see the ball go right past him. lou walks out with fontenot in tow and tells the umps about the switch as baker jogs to dugout. not a word was spoken, no medical staff came out…bizarre.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
first time?
two teams with an Xavier on the roster played against each other
(obviously dating back to tues)
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
the dodger xavier
turned two balls in the 8th inning into triples – crashed and burned on both, and on one lost his glove in the process and had to retrieve the ball from the wall without a glove in tow. it was a long run too, looked pretty funny.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
suddenly I feel less crummy about our problems.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this has probably already been discussed,
but long thread is long
mather down, lohse DL, salas up
that’s a 24 man roster. is someone up to replace mather? or are they just delaying ottavino’s call up?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
he's supposedly there in san diego - otto
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ottavino is already here
per FSNMW
Adam Ottavino also in the clubhouse, not on the pitchers available for today though.
Salas will have #59
Ottavino’s number was reserved, yeah? Anyone remember what it’ll be?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
75?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
it's all happening so fasssst
Fox_Sports_MW Lohse to have forearm surgery in LA tomorrow. Could be less than 2 months out of action, or it could be much longer less than a minute ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Noah Lowry apparently went through the same thing btw
Not too much confidence.
Not afraid to nitpick
They say (whoever "they" are)
that his was misdiagnosed.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure if that gives me more hope or less.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 27, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If I was a betting man
(well, I am a betting man, but if I could actually put a bet on it at attractive odds…) I would think Lohse’s career might just be pretty much over.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on May 28, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
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