Game 46 Open Thread: Cardinals at Padres
Petco Park:
St. Louis is dark;
I'll watch, with sorrow,
the ninth inning tomorrow.
Lineups after the jump.
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Ask your doctor if FLopex is right for you.
by Donovan Hamstain on May 25, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
Tell your doctor if FLopex pitches after 17 innings
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on May 25, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Other symptoms may include a sore arm and a spin on the DL
followed by a 10th inning walk off hit
You are now blinking manually o.O
by hr on May 25, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
if this were a home game
this entire damn thread would be green.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That only happens in the off season....
/effin sprouts.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Morning, CN - no more red shirts here, so you'll have to carry the ball fronm your end.
Waino due for a no hitter or so. .. .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
now I know what LaRue does
He’s the spokesman for the club.
…who decided this?!
haircut.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is painful
and yet hilarious, because he’s actually better at talking to the Cat than before.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Buccos did something right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
First place all by ourselves,
like it should be.
allllll by ourselvessssss
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think we need to win first
unless a couple hrs are enough for you (that’s what somebody said)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
After the Reds loss,
we are up by a half-game. If we win, we go up by a full game. If we lose, it is back to even with the Redlegs. I just choose to celebrate the situation as it stands right now.
by cardsgirl95 on May 25, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
The division is essentially out of reach...
With the Dodgers loss we’ll be ahead in the WC race regardless of outcome
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
so, a couple hrs are good enough for you
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
now that we have negotiations out of the way
umm…you are a girl, right?
/kidding…but you are a girl, right?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
thanks for not being offended
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
pregame (duh) prediction
Cards win 5-3
Waino pitches 8 innings gives up 2 runs on 8 hits
Franklin gives up a run in the 9th but gets out of a jam for the save
Holliday gets 2 hits and 2 RBI
they play 9 innings
each team records 3 outs per inning
the homeplate umpire gets cursed at least a dozen times in the game thread
I should get at least a few of these right.
Call me Nostradamus…
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
waino gets his first complete game shutout of his career tonight
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
wow, he has no shutouts?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
My prediction
Adam Wainwright will pitch 11 innings of shutout ball with 112 pitches until Mitchell Boggs comes and gives up a record 14 solo home runs in a row. We lose, 14-13
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
wow, we would have to have one heck of a top of the 12th
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
yeah, well, let's not try to make this kind of history tonight
i’m short on antacids, and I don’t do Franklins
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
maybe HR IS Khalil Green
(see post below)
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
hello, i'm mr. pessimist
cards lose 1-4
waino goes seven and allows only 5 hits, but one of them is a 3 run hr,
bullpen gives up another run in the eighth
holliday goes 1-3 with a walk
pujols goes 2-4 with an RBI double
You are now blinking manually o.O
by hr on May 25, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
how about mr. realistic pessimist
also, although the cards get 9 hits, the padres turn 3 double plays =/
You are now blinking manually o.O
by hr on May 25, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Another prediction
Albert hits a no-doubter out of Petco tonight.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
wrong day
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 28, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
let's go, blow job
gotta swing at those pitches a foot outside
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know why Dallas Braden was taken out of the A's/O's game early?
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
I put this in the other thread but just in case
there’s nothing in the mod screen that i can see to indicate you’re banned. I’d suggest using the “contact us” link at the bottom of the page to get in touch with the powers that be to see if there is something wrong with your former screen name.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
nah, like I said it was a SBN thing. I used a Yahoo account to log in here and it wouldn't connect over the weekend.
Its good, thanks for the concern Azru. :-)
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
I got temporarily banned by SBN too
It was annoying but they reset my account after a few days.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on May 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate late starts
cause that means i have no other baseball to watch for a majority of the night except for the cubs
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
PREGAME QUESTION!!!
PC or MAC?
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
This is clearly religion.
No religion!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
dating advice?
dating advice!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
this is some fine shit stirring right here
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Mac.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on May 25, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
What about Tri-boot?
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on May 25, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby and Waino
apparently have a pregame ritual.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
As do Boog and Bombs.
Was that supposed to be sumo wresting?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That's an ever evolving thing.
First time I’ve seen the other 2.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
sumo transfer
to dry humping larue
Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 25, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
is that part of the man stew?
actually… can somebody explain to me what the man stew actually is? I tried googling man stew and vivaelbirdos and i didn’t get exactly what i was looking for
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
the one place i forgot to look
thanks
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
or maybe
you got exactly what you were looking for, and you have not recovered?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
no... i got urban dictionary entrys
about things that had nothing to do with the redbirds
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It's best not to know
Just smile weakly and nod.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
does it involve
a live chicken?
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Waino and Skip have a bizarre handshake as well.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
we're on the west coast now, maaan
they’ll get to it, like, eventually
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I saw one more thing in that dugout which might be exciting.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
towels are in the corner
Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 25, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
festive
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ow.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
He'll live
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
let's hope Waino doesn't get too angry
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on May 25, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
there's an ump?!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it's Bring Your Kid to Work day and the ump sent his toddler son out there.
by Ghostrider520 on May 25, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Jim Rapoport?!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
lineoutwick ..
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
that's right, FSM. let's replay Albert's greatest fits.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"i said a SOY mocha!"
< throws in josh the batboy’s face >
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i thought he took strike one...
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
Away game, mlb.com
you get the home teams feed.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
no
there are no announcers
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
is matt "i hate the city of st. louis" vasgersian still the PBP man for padres?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
dick enberg
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah i wondered... considering he does the nightly show for the MLB network now
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he's full-time baseball now - lives out there, so took the pads job
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
seriously
i have audio from the game, but no announcers
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ok...I'll shut up.....
The audio is fine on EI.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
lucky bastard.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, mlb.tv
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no graphics or anything either
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
are those ushers or cardinals fans? they haven't moved the whole time.
are they dummies? dead?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Albert aims for the pitcher again.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Not the last time, but a while ago, yes.
’twas gruesome.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He and A-Gon were praying at first base after he hit the pitcher.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Thaaaat was weird.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
the hop was positively ecksteinian.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
trying the superman
jump throw i think…but it wasnt yadi running
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Shannon: At 3:00 am we'll go to Rush St. Forget about this series. . .Shannon preparing for Cubs. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
who is this padres home announcer
i recognize the voice.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
What a jagoff.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i have dick enberg
you have tv or radio?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
its enberg, im referring to radio
i like vasgersian
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
by tgreenfield on May 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice just saw the Reds dropped one. . . Details??
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
doumit homered i think
pirates win 2-1
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
bases jacked
yummy. let’s get some colby jack
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
hey, we have ducks. they're all over the pond.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Be smooth, baby. Be smooth.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
geiger? let us commence?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT reply actions
this really is odd
no announcers at all
did they both pass out or something?
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
mlb.tv fail
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
shades of the espn deportes incident in houston years ago...
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
trying to see who can
hold their breath the longest
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Strike 1 and 2 were meatballs that Colby should have Clobbered.
Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.
no worries
this is the Ted Drewes portion of the lineup. smooth and icy.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, Colby
How do you strikeout against Garland?
Kolby . . . Krappy
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
did colby strike out this much in the minors?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
I see Albert still has it out for Padres pitchers
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
Chitown'd? heh
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
nah I was checking my emails while watching the game and that was the most notable thing I saw so far
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
who would have thought Freese would have the highest batting average on the Cardinals in late may
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:21 PM EDT reply actions
wow
that was bad
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
aw freeser
that was an ugly cut at strike 2
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
seriously.. haha
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on May 25, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
GOOD EYE
oh man
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
wow, he took that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Not that one, though.
Damn.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
the home plate ump is Wegner btw
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Frozen out. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
son of a bitch
you took that previous pitch and then swing at THAT??
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
rec recognition
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I just had a dream
that Jon Garland matched his K/9 in the first inning.
feck.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
smaller picture really does look like the lobster is eating the dog.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
that dog is really unhappy though
the look on his face is like “if you didn’t feed me and take me for walks… i’d kill you”
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
then eat you with a little melted butter
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Lobster tastes better on the West Coast
/nonotreally
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Lobster tastes better in Maine.
for many reasons, the most important being the lack of an MLB franchise.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on May 25, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
bigger dude: Eckstein or ump?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
winner will be designated "world's tallest midget"
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Game Show: Ump, Fifth Grader, or Eckstein?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
ugh
cubs beat kershaw… fuck them
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Is it too early to worry about the loss column?
by jd is legend on May 25, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
?
do i sound paranoid?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
in-joke re: bcb
or maybe jd is paranoid.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
can you explain?
i need a good laugh
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
remember last year how the cards had that fat lead over the cubs for a long time
bcb was obsessed with being tied in the loss column, meaning there was still a chance. mathematically, not in reality.
thus the various instances here of “are you saying there’s still a chance?”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
haha… we have 5 games in hand!!!!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
well oK, Waino.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
10 pitches
me likey
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard A-Gon's awwwwwwww.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
a d'oh-flavored aww.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Filthy = A.D.A.M.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
His curve is nastier than a hooker from East St Louis
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Garland can slam the door anytime he wants
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
yaaaaaaaaaddddiiiii don't hurt your wrist.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what is wrong with yadi's wrist?
I have been out of pocket for a while.
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
well, since it just happened.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
the way they were talking I thought that he had some issues. thanks for clarifying.
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
I have a feeling we're about to make Garland look like an ace tonight
well, he kinda is I guess
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
I meant that he's the Pads best starter
but maybe I’m wrong
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
cool
I don’t know that guy very well
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That's like saying Vince Young was an All-Pro QB last year....
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
that one goes out to hal, wherever you are.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
Why swing at the first pitch? About time to skip Skip lineuply speaking
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
at first I thought you meant
I’ll do this: shit myself
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
not yet
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
stayed tuned, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
diarrhea?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
All that lobster meat can't be good for the digestive tracts.
by notmorganfreeman on May 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what prophetjohn's main diet is
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
probably less healthy than all lobster
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
tonight mine is
beer and pretzels, so yeah
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
WOO ADAM BASE HIT!
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
WainVP
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
Adam has a FTS moment!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
fuck the shit?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
this, but yes.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
let waino and his .080 average show you how it's done
bitches.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
he's normally better than that.
when they say the offense is underperforming……..
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Lopex makes it drop. with his mind.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Floppy 2
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Lopez
thank you for being a cardinal, glad you landed back in stl
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
moar wick is always good, too
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
nice
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
dial it in, RFL
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT reply actions
it's a day that ends in y.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
nice - pushing 50 ptiches through 2
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
with their bullpen that's a blessing - for them
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well that was fun.
I gotta go.
play nice and don’t talk to lobsters.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
piss.

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
27 LOB and 0 R
That would be the TESS to end all TESSes
by jd is legend on May 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
damn
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
geez... they strike out like they are playing wiffleball
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
aaaaaaaaand ludwick is cooling down nicely.
screw you, regression.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 10:37 PM EDT reply actions
he's a streaky hitter
he’ll be back
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
On pace for 22.5 LOBsters...
……soooo like…boog gets left on base in the 9th?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
ol' ahab's done it again
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
wicked pitch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
Speaking of lobsters...
I was in Orange Beach, AL for the past few days, and I spent a little time at the Flora-Bama (yes, it’s a seedy as its website suggests). Anyway, they had a game that was like the claw game at the arcade (you know, the one where there were a bunch of stuffed animals and you put money in and tried to grab one with the mechanical claw), but instead of stuffed animals, it was lobster. You put in $2, and if you got a lobster, they’d cook it for you.
that sounds awesome
how much money did you end up spending?
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
Zero dollars
The problem was that the Flora-Bama would cook it for you. I wouldn’t eat a burger they made.
by jd is legend on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
you know i used to feel kinda bad about how they cooked lobsters...
but then i was watching good eats and they explained that lobsters are the equivalent of underwater cockroaches… so now i dont feel so bad
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
you can hear crabs when you boil them
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
really?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
It's the steam escaping the shell.
by notmorganfreeman on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
i thought that he meant they screamed or something… i’d almost feel guilty… but crab legs are soooo good
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i really thought it was screaming
huh, no one ever said anything but that, and we did a lot of crabbing when i was a kid. lots of adults around too – did they just forget to tell me the truth before i left the nest?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Crabs don't have vocal chords or lungs to push air through them.
It’s the same thing with lobsters, the high-pitched noise is merely steam being vented at high pressure.
by notmorganfreeman on May 25, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of like the noise emitted...
from Cardinal fans these days…
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
I decided a couple of years ago to read about lobsters following an especially bad Cards game.
DFW’s ‘Consider The Lobster (And Other Essays)’ is very worth reading.
by notmorganfreeman on May 25, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
not as big a fan of the fiction?
(btw, i agree)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
disagree with what?
my agreement that all his nonfiction is worth reading?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how do you get an implication from that question?
seems pretty straightforward.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
"not as big a fan of the fiction? (btw, i agree)"
Seems pretty easy to infer what I inferred from that.
i asked spants a question
since she noted “nonfiction”, and then i parenthetically agreed with her statement.
anyway, no biggie. i happen to like his fiction, though.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Sorry I randomly went * on you
I may have lost my sanity due to the frustration of watching this game.
not the boiling water!!!!
AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck that's great!!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Shannon:
Yarvit Tarrybella
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
sweet
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds right to me
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
mattel wants to make gi joe action figures of him
and his brother tivroy
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Mr. Wainwright makes me happy to be a Cardinals fan.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
shit
makes me happy to be a baseball fan
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
probably our best player
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I should have just kept my trap shut.
Fuck.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
stupid gobs
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
bottom dropped out
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
I've seen better days...been the star of many plays
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
he's got tons of movement tonight
and that’s an understatement
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
#$@%$
FUCK
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
what?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
F U hairston
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
It's only ONE run, Gents.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
One. Run.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
retrospectively flagged.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
i don't care
fuck hairston
who the fuck does he think he is?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
A Hairston.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
they even make more.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
should i just go to bed now
and save a night of frustration?
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
In for a penny, in for a pound.
I’m still gonna watch Waino work it and hope something shakes loose for the offense.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
GREEN MAN!!!
Can you do a dance?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a gif
that of him dancing but have no idea on how to post it.
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
upload to imgur.com
Copy associated link.
Create post.
Click tree icon to post image
Paste link
Post.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Here you go
Hope this works.
Green Man!
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
Failed
step by step instructions
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
Almost, you forgot the .gif tag. I gotcha...

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
awesome
thanks for the lessons
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
WTF - is Waino doing hanging pitches to the likes of Hairsotn?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
wow that was shitty
i was just saying to myself “adam looks extra specially ADAM tonight. locked in, hitting his spots, etc” then boom. i shall now drink.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
on beer two
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
beer seven here
tomorrow is my weekly day off!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
congrats!!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
bowl 2 here!!
still have >30 pages of reading to do. stupid summer class
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
by tgreenfield on May 25, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
just a solo shot at least
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
your 1:1 baserunner-to-run ratio
is hilarious, san diego. hee-la-ree-ous.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
you know what else is hilarious
San Diego is Spanish for “a whale’s vagina”
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
first home run heh
bad luck
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
That kinda looked Albertian.
I’ll take it.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
He's been indistinguishable from...
Eckstein this month.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
APuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:49 PM EDT reply actions
Struggling, eh?
“Fush yu, mang.” – Albert
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
if by struggling you mean ripping the shit out of the ball then yeah
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
what was the stat?
albert’s line the series after a hitless series is ridic
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
these guys are talking like lohse missing his next start would be a bad thing...
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
hey, guy
adam wainwright is pitching tonight. let’s not turn this thread into a loshe whine-fest
eh?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
the sd padres color man just needed a big towel.
to the sound of albert’s …err…wood.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
wow
that was close to a strike
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
wow 5 ks for jon garland
no wonder i feel slightly pessimistic about this game.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
it's our plan on getting into their bullpen
raise Garland’s pitch count by making him throw at least 3 pitches an AB
let's stick with garland
bullpen’s pretty good
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
God DAMN it, Holl 'n Daze
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
"not his style of pitching to be striking out so many"
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions
"a couple two three innings"
not sure if that means 3 or 4 innings, or 6
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
or more
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Duuuudes, I'm totally listenin to Astro Lounge by Smashmouth.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
no LOBsters!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
fuck!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
On pace for 15 LOBsters
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
I have watched this game beer-free for too long.
BRB.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
no LOB
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Lost the LOB in the Double Play
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby?
God, I hate his streakiness SO MUCH.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
he and matty
not dealing with inside pitches very well
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
"life is a lease, negotiate well"
wtf?
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:57 PM EDT reply actions
life is baseball, music, and good friends but that's just me lol
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
the subprime ones can be defaulted
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOO!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He makes wagons....and paints!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
"His average is unlike his father's"
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
you can say that again
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
"His average is unlike his father's"
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wainwright broke Gameday
Pitch #4 = Auto. Strike / null
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Did he step on the plate?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
GLOVEWICK!!!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
I spit on you Venable!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
RFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
GLOVEWICK!!!!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
R. F. L.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
well, hello, dude's face
RFL just rocked it
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions
Listening to the Pads broadcast
is like listening to our home broadcast. It’s like theyre rooting for us.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
and military
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and zoo
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean...
Every football and baseball game I went too, there were more people cheering for the opposing team.
Well, the Chargers are complete
assholes, so I can understand not rooting for them.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Goonies photoshop annnnnnd Go!!
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
I LOVE YOU CHUNK!!!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Too late...I was bored.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I'm pretty sure I saw that in
Pan’s Labyrinth
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on May 25, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Damn. I had been hoping to get some sleep tonight.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
hurr durr
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
perfectly epitomizes
this moment

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
man, i thought that was gone
enberg had just said how much waino reminded him of carp, the ball was tagged, and so i assumed it was therefore a homer.
good job RFL
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ludwick for GG!
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
Someone needs to knock the smirk off of Garland's GD picture.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
+1
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the shittiest shit inthe history of shit.
Shit.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on May 25, 2010 11:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
ugly ugly ugly
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
KIDP??
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
dammit tony
stop being cute
Currently selling signature space. All offers considered.
by RosevilleRedbird on May 25, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
he knows how to fucking manage
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
safe?
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
I kinda thought he was safe
to close to tell though
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
fuck, he may have been safe
pads replays seem to show that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this is the part
where we break into song.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
cool!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
in'resting
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Great to see him get a chance...
I thought he was dead meat a couple years ago.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
well
I was beginning to wonder if Garcia would amount to anything before this season. not that he will be anywhere near that good though. just good to seem him get the chance like you said.
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Garcia...
was always pretty good when he was healthy. Ottavino flat out sucked until the middle of last year.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
yes yes
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
His ascendence...
was like a mercy promotion: we’ll send you up the ladder since we picked you first, then after you suck at AAA for a couple years we’ll ship you out for somebody like Mike Maroth.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
but he had good stuff
and the LOOK of a pitcher – now he can throw a strike it seems, and a located strike at that (unless he’s still leaving too many up – haven’t seen him pitch this year)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
good news
hope it’s not too early – i have high hopes for him, always liked him, but can’t understand how he never developed a cutter or changeup…some third option.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's got an offspeed pitch
it’s just not of the same caliber as his slider and fastball
Think; It's not illegal yet.
if he had a cutter or change
wouldn’t he have a weapon against lefties? i don’t know his splits, but i tend to think if the dude doesn’t have major problems with lefties, he’s going to be good to go as a starter (i don’t want him to end up in a bullpen)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
In the minors, he's been about as good against lefties as righties.
And no, I do not have a good explanation for that.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
wait a second
I thought he started yesterday… oh well, either way, good for Ottavino.
by stxcardsfan on May 25, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
well I guess they found the remedy
you don’t have to worry about LOBsters if you just run into outs instead
And it's the fourth inning
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Eck looks like he has progenia in his GD photo
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
flashback walk off GS from eckstein FTW!
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
i remember going ape shit when he did that
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the Padres and their scrappy lineup and their gimmicky park
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
Petco or MMP?
I’ll take Petco everyday.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Oh petco but wait untill venable triples into the corner
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
I was gonna say
Is Petco gimmicky or just huge?
by jd is legend on May 25, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Their lineup seems to always score on one weird sets of plays after another there
it isn’t nearly as bad as some but pretty awful overall oh and I HATE HAIRSTONS
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
I. Love. Adam. Wainwright.
Currently selling signature space. All offers considered.
by RosevilleRedbird on May 25, 2010 11:13 PM EDT reply actions
Sorry, I'm a noob to MLB.tv
Can you use it at 2 different computers?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
yeah, usually
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
even if those computers are in two different towns
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they seem to have gotten
less jerky about this over time.
I remember getting locked out of my account all the time.
6 singles...not consecutive
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Garland pitch count was at 61 after three innings, now 77 after 5
Terrible plate discipline the last two innings
annoying fact of life
cannot get hair cut without having to take a shower immediately afterwards… even when you ask for a rinse before you leave… seriously.. what the hell do the aprons do?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
nothing
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
like grains of sand
you can rinse at the beach, but still need a shower when you get home
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
not to mention that whatever shirt you are wearing needs to be changed the minute you get home
it really actually makes me wish that there was such a thing as the “suck cut”
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 25, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
BOOOOOO Hairstyling vacuum attachments
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he use that on his mustache too?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Fact Tulo now has 4 HRs in his last 5 games after having 1 in his first forty Suck It SSS
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
can everyone agree to remember
that babe ruth was a pretty good pitcher?
That way TV announcers can stop reminding me of things I hadn’t forgotten.
Thanks.
kids watch baseball too, hopefully
gotta keep the generations informed
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and much like babe ruth's yankees
san diego knows a thing or two about post-season flops
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals are better than the Padres at every single position on the field...
why can’t we just win a game 8-2?
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
we score the same number of runs and have the same ERA's
their defense has been better.
they don’t make many outs on the bases, either.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yes, yes he did
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
if it were any other pitch than that ballbreaker
he wouldnt have
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Gwynn looks like a young Milton Bradley.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Damnit
Haven’t had donuts in forever.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
BALL?!?!?
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
10K
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
KKKKKKKKKK!
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions
I want 20 k's
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
and a couple runs for the cards
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
thats a crazy pipe dream
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
not yet impossible, yet unlikely
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 25, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wainwright now into running
Favorite distance?
The 10K
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Keep those Ks comin!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions
4th quarter?
eh, i was pissed at the celts last night – last possession, magic have no fouls to give, and they don’t get a shot off? they needed a sweep bad for some rest.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Suns with 74 freebies in two games
f’in David Stern
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
magic were getting calls last nite - in fuckin' boston!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
A sport that can't be refereed just doesn't work
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
This game makes me hate everything.
Why oh why can’t we push a run across against this joker?
by mattisnotfrench on May 25, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions
Hollidinger would help
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
nice play there i must admit
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions
slumpiday
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
THIS MAKES NO SENSE
look at our offense! how is that not a good offense?
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
this
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
holy shit he ripped that
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:34 PM EDT reply actions
CRUSH IT COLBY
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Both Albert and Pujols
had to reach to get to a pitch on the edge of the plate. Are they standing far away from the plate? Maybe trying to stop pitchers from pitching them inside?
lol Albert and Pujols
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
if only we had them both
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
this must be the problem
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Then we could...
pay $60 million for no dingerz
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
jesus f christ
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:35 PM EDT reply actions
this game sucks
it’s becoming inevitable that we lose 1-0.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:36 PM EDT reply actions
did you miss waino v zito?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, it is now
fuck.
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
the whole damn offense fail
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
what's worse is that we can hit him
but just can’t quite put it all together
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
death by ball game
If we lose this one 1-0 and I have an aneurysm at my computer, which one of you will drive my lifeless body to the hostpital?
by indycardsfan70 on May 25, 2010 11:38 PM EDT reply actions
this
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Too far away.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well....assuming you're in Indy...
I can be there in 18 hours. Work for you?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I could be there in 2. heh
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
if your body is lifeless
what’s the rush?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
My body is like this team. . .
. . .and it’s going to be a long, stinky season before someone rescues it.
by indycardsfan70 on May 25, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Will the steam escaping at high pressure from your skull make a hissing noise?
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Chicago?
You won’t make it by the time I’m dead.
by indycardsfan70 on May 25, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions
doesn't lifeless mean dead?
maybe not.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
This team is lifeless. . .
. . .is it dead?
by indycardsfan70 on May 25, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a first-place team on pace for 92 wins...
I’m thinking June 1 is the date of the turnaround.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Happy birthday to my dad!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
life has a few meanings
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
walk him?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this game sucks so bad that I am actually going to start voting for the all star game
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:42 PM EDT reply actions
I refuse to have any part of that mockery of the game.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
good point
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Ball?????!!!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
what's his most?
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
12
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
this makes this game watchable
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And there you have it.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
12
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
tied it!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oddly looks like he won't get the win in either....
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
we're scoring right here
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
got him 3 times?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well hello, uncle charley!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
beeeeautiful
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
Tied career high!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
a dozen!!!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
let's make it a baker's
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what I was thinkin!
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
12!!!!
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
Do you think Boog is dreaming about the Sonic Blast. . .
. . .when he’s sitting on the bench?
by indycardsfan70 on May 25, 2010 11:46 PM EDT reply actions
i don't know if he's got the gas for 9 innings
at 88 right now
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw crap I forgot about that...
Kerry Wood threw 122 pitches when he struck out 20.
I wonder if Wainwright was at 110+ with 17 Ks would LaRussa send him back out there?
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
i think the score would matter
but waino on deck here, so we shall see
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I blame the terrible offense
On Mobil getting rid of last season’s “Six Is A Serious Number” theme song.
BRING IT BACK AND THE OFFENSE WILL COME.
by mattisnotfrench on May 25, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
I believe this
because I’m tired of believing in the bad luck reason
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
No wonder the Blues couldn't score much
We want tacos!
by Donovan Hamstain on May 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cardinal Cardinal says unto us:
Score runs, my children.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 25, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions
make it happen freese
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
not that
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
All we are saying, is give offense a chance
by Podlol on May 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Get outta this Funky cold, Molina
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Jon Garland
Has a 2.12 ERA.
Does not compute.
by mattisnotfrench on May 25, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
I'm beginning to wonder if we should have signed him instead of Penny
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yes I am
just wonderin though
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
naw
you have to put faith in the decision making process. If that process would have lead you to sign Garland over Penny more than likely you’ll be burnt more often then you’ll catch Garland in a bottle.
ok man
I will stop wondering
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
made me laugh
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't look now...
but Welly is carving up the Nats.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
good job yadi
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions
Skip
first pitch swinging. Who would have guessed?
by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
skip's gunna bomb one.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
...for a 5-4-3
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm playing some really suspenseful sounding alt-jazz music to go along with this game
it fits really well
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions
eff you skippeh...
Currently selling signature space. All offers considered.
by RosevilleRedbird on May 25, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
anyone else
having trouble replying
i keep gettng previous comments automatically appearing
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
ever since I got a new computer I don't have as many problems with that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I can't believe Eckstein threw it that hard
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
Sigh
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I feel like Adam won't get, today, that useless stat that cost him the Cy last year
I want the Walrus back...
it's like watching a skydiver who's parachute will not open
but you keep thinking it will
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
that dp probably kept adam in this game
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You would have bat for AW?
No way
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
depends if it was second and third
got to then
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
but ladies love it?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
this is his last inning
let’s just root for k’s
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
dammit, that's not a k
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
thats just a theory
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 25, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
k's are outs
i’m not worried about winning
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i was standing there
cig in hand waiting for the DP
knew it was coming
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
That slider had no bite to it, did it?
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
get that 13th k waino
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
Adams then Bell??
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn;t colby own bell?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
had to leave and come back to this? Where is the O? It's bad enough losing pitchers, it's worse to having winning pitchers lose.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
goddamn it hairston
u suck
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions
See sig; replace "Houston" with "Hairston"
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
yesh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
he was out at first!
but maybe we can still see a 13k
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
we need one more k for waino
who’s pinch-hitting for waino?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I have to agree
plus he hits as well or better than any of these chumps
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
he's leading off
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Tony would never hit a pitcher,
then pull him though…heh heh heh
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
heh heh heh
wish i had shannon tonite – this might be better
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Rasmus makes it look easy
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
50/50
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He'll PH with a reliever
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I might punch a baby if he does...
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on May 26, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
garland still in?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i say he doesnt
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 26, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
The Mang is going to come through for Waino this inning
I feel it in my bones. Set the table boys, Albert’s ready to feast!
...
Here comes the judge, here comes the judge
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Well I do know a lot about U.S. history...
Just not judges from forever ago
I want the Walrus back...
Foreign peoples should learn US history too...
since we are the last, best hope for mankind.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
he's just kidding
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I love saying that...
it just keeps getting more and more ironic.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
We know all about the quetzal
/okaybutnotmuchelse
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
problem is
with lopex being a regular, we have no lefty on the bench when he and schu both play, and you know how tony is.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this guy has heat
not good for jay
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Daaang, how close was that?
Rooney made it sound to the wall
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Good God...
That ball was short of the track and it’s only 396 to center.
Not a HR anywhere, Dan and Al.
but it's transplants like florida
somebody – maybe you – already noted that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Jerry Hairston Jr is the bane of my existence.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on May 26, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
gonna have to rec that
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
the backup shortstop is beating us
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
gah!!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, screw Mike Adams
I hated him on American Gladiators
by Donovan Hamstain on May 26, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we are seeing how annoying it is to play this team
I’ve been watching them a lot this season, and they are a very annoying to play team (although I kind of like it when they beat other teams)
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:10 AM EDT reply actions
yep, this is their typical game
except for the homer – usually it’s small ball, petite ball even
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well
I guess that is good
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
K, that takes us to the bottom of the 9th...
then what happens?
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
frankie sucks and we all celebrate
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Albert, Matt, Colby vs Bell
Who ya got?
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Bell.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on May 26, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
...

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No for real...

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
In before the bullpen gives up 3 runs...
And the offense finally pushes a meaningless one across in the 9th.
if the bullpen gives up three
the O will score at least two
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i don't know if that's optimism or pessimism
so i gotta rec it for confusion
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
someone text that to the offense
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
First pitch swinging.
Mac needs to take these guys to the woodshed. I think it’s a team problem; when they don’t score they all start pressing and trying to do too much. Particularly as of late they’re suffering because they can’t score a run to save their souls.
by mattisnotfrench on May 26, 2010 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
we scored against the angels
we gave up a lot, but we scored.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
second after tampa
cards are third – basically the same though
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the bullpen mostly
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if we were in the AL
we’d be bad at pitching and good at hitting
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 26, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
This would be so much better with the mask.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on May 26, 2010 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
GD pic needs moar mask
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I'm here to shut it down.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
that's probably the largest size they make that mask
and it’s still too tight
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Padres announcer thinks that Big Sweat comes from the cincy days
WRONG!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions
Where does it come from?
Because he had it before he came here.
You can read it in any tone you like.
Minnesota?
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yesh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I LOVE MINI SODA!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Twins
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
heh
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Spring Training, workout room, Richard Simmons video.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
wainwright/kershaw/leake tonight
20 1/3 IP, 2 ER, 0-1 (0-2 if waino loses)
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 26, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions
leake is making quite an impression
he’s like a ballplayer who happens to pitch
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You wouldn't want to throw it across the plate to Venable...
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Alright, Hurley's in now
we’re gonna win this sucker.
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
by Vindicator9000 on May 26, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
foul
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:18 AM EDT reply actions
Pork chop has given up 9 walks and 3 hits in 14 innings...
that’s gonna turn around in a very ugly way one of these days.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
9 hits and 3 walks would work too
but maybe not as well
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm thinking...
it’s his luck that will turn… hits rise, walks stay the same.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
well, that would not be good
pads announcers said he’s 32 – i would’ve bet he was older
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
muy feo hoy
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
muy feo cada dia
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
NICE!
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Ole
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
4k's is golden
5ks is olympic rings
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Gonzo 4K
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
lol bangers
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 26, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe you left this in the locker room, Mr Gonzales

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
make it happen guys
salvage the not quite record breaking waino performance!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:21 AM EDT reply actions
The Mariners managed three runs against Verlander...
and we can’t score against Garland + middle relievers with the best offense since 2004?
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
Jeez
I got up in the 4th to clean up the kitchen and get back in the 8th and see we are still losing. Makes my beer taste stale.
MLBN cutting in to show Pujols' AB
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
B2BHR?
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Career against Bell
AP 1-2
MH 0-10
CR 1-1
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
walk him please
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
woa, he went the other way
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ball was waaaayyy outside
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
holliday bunt?
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 26, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions
hit and run
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Pujols!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions
are the blue jays somehow sapping our offensive powers?
stop it, blue birds! go red birds!
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/jays-hitters-hacking-mashing/
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:25 AM EDT reply actions
he hasn't caught up with that one all year
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah
cmon Holliday!
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Juuuust foul
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
GOBs
Just don’t care much for us this year.
by mattisnotfrench on May 26, 2010 12:27 AM EDT reply actions
fuck...i fear a k now
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Heath Bell..
20 appearances, 20 innings, he’s only retired the side in order twice
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
this is why im not worried about this year
the numbers have to… HAVE TO… even out right?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 26, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
HFS
How did he not swing at that
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
tried with that swing
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
that was low dammit
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:29 AM EDT reply actions
can we see the all-star game version of heath bell yet?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:30 AM EDT reply actions
geiger
let’s go!!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
sure that one wasn't on the black, ump?
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:31 AM EDT reply actions
whoops
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:32 AM EDT reply actions
not much you can do there
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
that would be weird
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 26, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't mind seeing Freese up here...
Could do without the high strike though. Lame.
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on May 26, 2010 12:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
just missed it
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
ouch
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I predict Pujols..
will just start running and see if he can run over Yorvit.
Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...
palpitations
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
here comes the K
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 26, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
BB
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
yep
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks for playing
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
ICE TRY.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
nice job freezer
"Who is the most underrated actor of all time?" - Charlie
"That's easy - Dolph Lundgren" - Mac
i wish he would've gotten a strike, though
he leads the league in 2-out rbi’s. rather him hit than walk there, but the pads were cautious
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it is time for yadiiiiii
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:35 AM EDT reply actions
heart rate is up
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions
If stav bats I will literally punch through my wall
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
What do you have against Stav?
There’s as much evidence suggesting that he can hit as there is suggesting he can’t.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 26, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
he's got a .409 BABIP on a LD rate of 12.5%
he still can’t hit.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 26, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You mean the career .254 OBP, the .262 wOBA, the terrible, terrible swing, the somehow worse eye and the fact that he's fact and can't play defense?
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
the fact that he's fact?
that description somehow fits stav
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i always thought stav was a bit tautological
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm talking about his AAA line
his last two years of Memphis he had a 370ish wOBA in 600 PAs.
Compared to his 200 or so PAs here. He’s picked up his hitting lately, so maybe we are just now seeing the real Stav
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 26, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
if we don't see too much of the real stav
things will be fine
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on May 26, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if he hits a homerun off of both knees lefthanded and blindfolded...
i would punch through my wall too
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 26, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Can we have the return of opposite-field-slap-single Yadi?
Please?
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on May 26, 2010 12:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
believin'!
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
makin him work hard
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions
CRAP!!!
Currently selling signature space. All offers considered.
by RosevilleRedbird on May 26, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
i think only 7 though
according to pads crew
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Jesus.
They’d better win 12-0 tomorrow.
by mattisnotfrench on May 26, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
garcia is better than that
i’d say 2-0
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by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
dammit yadi
overanxious
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
one more for the road...

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:39 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
what is this i don't even
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 26, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
he's pretty much the perfect pitcher to shut us down right?
isn’t he a soft tossin lefty?
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
fuck that.
thanks for playing wainwright. your constalations prize is getting to kick everyone on the offense in the nuts twice, excluding pujols and lopez. bonus points for kicking holliday and ludwick twice as hard.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 26, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
i'm talking offensively
there’s obviously two different guys. o-ludiwck and d-ludwick. they’re two different human beings.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 26, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
ludwick saved him a double
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by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't think so.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 26, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
no
because i was thinking “damn another solo shot”
and then it was petco park and ryan wheels ludwick
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by prophetjohn on May 26, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
shitty
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on May 26, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
do away with win loss record, mlb
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
that will never happen
how you value it in your mind can change, but someone has to get the win – cy young had over 500, and the award is named after him. plus, it’s not an entirely meaningless stat – some guys have a knack for winning, so why should we discount whatever that is just because no one knows how to measure it? i’d say the measurement exists, and it’s win-loss %, it just doesn’t tell the whole story, just like any other stat doesn’t. great pitchers will find ways to win, like carlton winning 27 when that was about half of the team’s wins. you just have to look at it with some other info too – i usually look at a pitcher’s win percentage compared to his team’s win percentage – was it plus or minus?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
HAHAHAHAHA!
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
that's just one game
in other words, SSS. all pitchers lose 1-0 games. those are the aberration. if he pitches the same way over the course of the year, his w-l will reflect it. he’ll also get a win here and there when he doesn’t pitch too well.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
an elite pitcher doesn't need league-average run support to win
could be the more runs the offense scores, the fewer innings he pitches – just take him out. so in tighter games he’s likely to pitch longer, which racks up all the other numbers for him. also, with a big lead he’s likely not pitching the same as in a tight game, which generally would up his whip and probably era, because he’s just getting outs. so for his overall numbers to look at for cy young and such, a 1-0 loss probably helps him more -or at least is neutral – than an 11-5 win where he’s just throwing strikes.
just saying the sword cuts both ways, and w-l % as compared to team w-l% is just another number probably as indicative as any other of the numerous measurements.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
No. Sure doesn't need league-average run support to win.
Just any run support at all.
And Adam probably wouldn’t come out of a game early unless it was a blow-out. He typically works late into the game and throws 100+ pitches. He comes out early when he’s not doing well.
You can read it in any tone you like.
the easiest/best way to refute this is that pitchers on really bad teams are much more likely to not have a good win-loss record
but still have great stats in all other categories. win loss is too connected with the offense.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions
well, i forget what his record was
but if you look at greinke’s w-l % last year and compare it to the team’s, i bet it’s probably a gap worthy of a cy young (taking into account other numbers as well, of course). same with lincecum, or carp. they will win at a greater rate than their team. it’s as good a number to look at as any other of the 20 or so numbers to look at.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
For a career, yes, for a season no
Run support varies to much between pitchers on the same teams as chalk said above.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
are there cy young winners who have not exceeded their
team’s w/l % – starters? or someone you think got jobbed of a cy? i’d bet they all do. so that has to say something, as much as any other number. i’m just saying, look at all the numbers, pick a cy winner, and THEN look at his w/l % relative to the team – i’d bet 95-100% are in the positive.
as far as run support, i addressed that above. when given a huge lead, that will tend to hurt your other cy-young numbers because you pitch differently and therefore give up hits and runs for outs.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Probably not.
But that doesn’t exactly make it a great metric for e.g. determining Cy winners. For example, Luke Hochevar is 4-2 this year, and Greinke is 1-5. Should Hochevar be a Cy Young contender? Should Greinke not be?
as i said -
reading comprehension should really be mandatory here – as i said, go ahead and determine your cy winner based on all the other numbers, and then look at his w/l % relative to the team, and i guarantee you it will be a positive 95-100% of the time. you are trying to make w-l % the sole determining factor of the cy, when it carries only equal weight to things such as era, fip, whip, k’s, etc. is there one single number you would like to base the cy young on, because that’s what it sounds like?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
nah
it carries only equal weight to things such as era, fip, whip, k’s, etc.
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
and
is there one single number you would like to base the cy young on, because that’s what it sounds like?
WAR would do a pretty god job
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i don't know enough about WAR calculation for pitchers
i know i wouldn’t put much stock in it for mvp for position players, though – i sometimes see guys with pretty equal values that are leagues apart.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'll have to wait till some are pointed out for their
extraordinary war that i get a chuckle out of because otherwise i pay no attention to that stat – of course i’m not handing out contracts. zobrist may be one that comes to mind – wasn’t he really high last year? i like him, he’s a nice player, but i couldn’t imagine if i sat here and made a list of 50 players who are the best in the game that he’d be anywhere on it. i like lopex, but i’d take zobrist in that role for sure. (and i could be wrong, but i thought he had a high number – in any event, i see them all the time, so i’ll start taking note – the projections for war are probably what get me the most, though, tbh, because some are rather ludicrous)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
WAR doesn't tell you who is the best in the game
WAR tells you who performed the best. Zobrist had a fucking amazing season last year (although I agree he was overrated by FanGraphs WAR because UZR had him a lot higher than he probably was but that doesn’t make the stat bad, just that one data point bad).
Read my post on hitter WAR here before dismissing WAR because it seems ludicrous to you please.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/2/7/1299338/viva-el-war-part-1-hitters
And remember than FanGraphs WAR does not equal WAR in general.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions
ok. i'm going to read that
and i didn’t realize that fangraphs war could be different from others, and fangraphs is probably what i’m most familiar with. are fip, xfip etc. standard, or do they also vary?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you probably did
but if you didn’t see, rWAR is available at B-R now
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
WAR would probably be a lot more accurate
for position players
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I think it's better for pitchers actually
At least rWAR is.
by vivaelpujols on May 27, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
So do you think W-L should be weighted equally with WHIP, for example?
You’re not willing to accept that something like ERA, FIP, WHIP, K/BB, or any other stat is in any way superior to W-L as a metric? It’s clear that Cy winners have good W-Ls. They’re also good pitchers. That doesn’t mean that W-L is predictive of actual pitching quality as well as the other metrics.
i think w/l differential doesn't need to be predictive
we are talking about past performance when awarding a cy. i think the differential does have significance in looking backward, yes.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't think RBIs should be weighted equally with OPS+ or wOBA
in determining the best hitters. W-L % is similarly flawed because it is overly dependent on factors not under the player we’re measuring’s control.
again, it is the differential
if a guy is 15-14 on a .350 winning team, that is far better than a guy who is 17-11 on a .700 winning team. the second guy has the better personal w%, but the first guy, all things equal, would get my vote because he is a positive in relation to his team whereas the second guy is a negative.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how are you determining w/l %?
did the guy who has a 17-11 record pitch 28 or 35 games? because the difference between the two is between .500 and .600. a team either loses or wins a game. a pitcher has three options. however you figure the ratio, it should be fairly clear there is no good comparison between a win percentage for a pitcher and for a team.
let’s say instead that pitcher A is great but finishes 9-14 on a .350 winning because he gets a bunch of no decisions because the bullpen blows leads like there’s no tomorrow. your metric is not going to capture that. and poor run support and bad bullpen days are sufficiently random you’re going to see wide variation in the course of the season.
i know a few sites track run support for each pitcher; it would be interesting to see bullpen ERA per pitcher tracked to follow the variation. like, the cards’ bullpen had an ERA of 4.25 for waino, but 5.00 for carp, etc.
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yeah, i like your last point there
i just checked run support last year in the carp vs. lincecum debate (they were equal, iirc, and lincecum had a better defense – though that’s overall and not particular to him – so i figured he wouldn’t have won more games had he pitched for the cards, as some had suggested, but i never considered the bullpen aspect. that would factor into the pitchers’ era too, if the relievers stranded the runners at different clips. good point, and for a single year shouldn’t be too hard to look at, even just pulling from game logs i guess.
as for your first point, i was just assuming all else being fairly equal as far as starts and ip and such, because otherwise that would likely decide it right there, as last year when carp missed time.
thanks for that suggestion though, and if anyone reads this and knows a simple way to find “bullpen support” please let me know.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Okay, there may be some effect of "pitching to the score" but that is DWARFED by the effect of "my team scored only 1 run but I still lost because I am not superman"
Lincecums winning percentage last year was 125% better than his teams. Assuming a league average team, that means a .627 winning percentage and a record of 14 and 8. His actual record was 15-7, so he actually gets hurt by the team adjustment.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions
i don't really understand that
take lincecum’s w-l%, subtract the actual w-l % of the team, and you have your number. fwiw, carp had the biggest gap last year between personal and team w/l% with the same run support and defense (sf a little better i believe) as lincecum. that’s just one number in the debate.
(i don’t get your assumption of league average team, because we have actual w/l% numbers to go by)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
But that number doesn't mean anything
Okay, great, Carp was +.3 last year. Super!
What I’m doing is adjusting Carp’s record over his teams record to that of an average team. You always want to use indexes rather than differentials as those tend to break down in extreme situations.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions
this is probably over my head, vep
sorry man.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Join the club.
He blows my mind with something on a regular basis.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not at all
Lincecum’s winning percentage was .681 last year. The Giant’s winning percentage was .543 last year. Lincecum was 125% better than the Giants at winning ball games. If you take that 125% and adjust it to a league average team, you get a .625 winning percentage. A .625 winning percentage in 22 decisions (15+7) is a 14 and 8 record.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
his winning percentage was a little better
because his team’s was better than league avg?
just so you know, i had to read your “ground-breaking” article on hanson three full times, and all the comments the same amount, to feel i had a decent grasp of it. so i can come off as difficult, as i am, but sometimes it’s just trying to figure some stuff out, sort of by fleshing it out.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I wouldn't call the article groundbreaking
More complicated.
Anyway, it’s pretty simple. The Giants had 88 wins last year, so Lincecum’s record was worse compared to that than to a standard 81 win team.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions
heh, well i don't know
i don’t read a lot of articles like that to know what’s out there, but according to the red reporter saber guy who linked me to it in the first place, it was sort of new and exciting stuff.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and if he piches the same way
over the course of the year for the yankees or the phillies, his W/L is going to be a lot different. it’s a team stat, not a pitcher stat
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
it is the difference between his w/l percentage and the team's
i am talking about!!! a guy with a .600 w/l % on a team with a .700 w/l% is not as impressive as the guy with a .550 w/l % on a team that has a .400w/l%. the differentials are one other number that can be thrown into the mix when determining cy.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
2009
giants won 54.3% of games
tim lincecum
W in 46.9% of his starts (86.4% of team W%)
W in 68.2% of his decisions (125.6% of team W%)
2005
cards won 61.7% of games
chris carpenter
W in 63.6% of his starts (103.1% of team W%)
W in 80.8% of his decisions (131% of team W%)
i think pitching on good teams have a larger advantage. even if there is a correlation, there are so much better stats at quanitfying pitcher performance
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
but that gets you into the javier vasquez territory
of great peripherals, but as ozzie called him, a loser. this is just one more number to add some context. not a big deal – to each his own. we all have different evaluation tools – it’s just one other i use, and has been pretty effective.
i won’t use names, but there are pitchers in college (and before) that just won, and i’ve always been drawn toward them. similarly there are hitters who hit .300 no matter what level it is, and guys hitting .500 who you see go down to .400 the next level and then .300 and then .200 as they move up. yet i like that guy who was hitting .300 over the guy on his team hitting .500 because that’s just what he’s going to do, where the other guy, in this case, you don’t value nearly as highly from the get-go.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
a little projection for hitters
two guys at the same level, one hitting .500 and the other hitting .300. i might pick that .300 guy to hit that at every level going forward, and it happens. i might say that .500 guy is the lesser hitter, and will drop like an anchor going up, and it happens. projections wouldn’t work exactly that way, but without watching them and having that basis to go on, if one just looked at numbers and wanted to project them (MLE’s etc), it would have been a mistake.
brandon wood of the angels is a good example, although the angels always knew it, lots of folks looked at his minor-league numbers and projected them while ignoring the flaws that wouldn’t translate at all against a higher level of pitching. some guys have just enough to impress at a level, but it’s very tenuous, and they are overpowered at the next.
i was comparing some pitchers to that. they don’t blow you away with their stuff, but at every level they find a way to win while guys with much better stuff (let’s call it peripherals, to analogize and draw vasquez back in) just don’t seem to be able to get it done against the same competition – get it done as in winning.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The wins are assigned in an arbitrary way that still relies on team performance!
You can read it in any tone you like.
not sure if arbitrary is the right word
i think last night it was pretty clear which pitcher got the win and which got the loss. i understand what you’re saying, because waino certainly pitched well enough to win, and 90% or more of the time, if he gave up only a run, he would get the win. of course, there are other times where he picks up a win when he’s not so good, and maybe the other pitcher was better. it’s the nature of every sport – sometimes you can play great and still lose, and sometimes you can play poorly yet still win.
the goalie in hockey is similar to the pitcher in baseball in that he takes the win or loss on his record, and i guess ties in hockey would be like a no-decision in baseball. each is the player most responsible for whether his team wins or loses games, in general. starting qb’s in the nfl also have w-l records, and you could say the same about them – it is the most important position. everyone understands that there’s a whole team involved in an outcome, like last night the offense didn’t score at all – the best waino could have gotten in that scenario is a no-decision, but he did give up one run whereas garland didn’t. garland earned the win, and waino earned the loss, whether deserved or not.
if waino pitches 10 games in a row and gives up one run in each, he will likely be 9-1, with the one loss an outlier of sorts. same if he then pitches 10 games in a row giving up 7 runs in each. he’ll probably be 1-9 for that stretch. so after 20 games he’d be 10-10, which you’d expect.
last night was just a tough-luck loss, like a hitter smoking four line drives in a game right at people and going 0-4. tough-luck losses can also be of the 3-2 or 4-3 variety, but we could also say the victor had a tough-luck win, such as garland last night.
getting back to the “arbitrary” point, i think awarding of wins/losses merits some review, as far as how they are determined. one change i’d like to see that comes immediately to mind is, for direct example, when the reliever comes in top of the ninth and blows the save, then the team wins in the bottom of the ninth, the starter (or whoever the pitcher of record is at that point) should be awarded the win rather than the reliever, who in fact failed. there are probably several such scenarios folks can come up with, so that by altering the scoring rules the “win” and “loss” designation might be more reflective of what happened, and more meaningful. they’ve changed the save rules of scoring, and even added holds, so i don’t know why it would be a big deal to take a look at the scoring of wins and losses. that wouldn’t change last night, of course, because sometimes you can pitch brilliantly and lose – sometimes you just have to tip your cap to the opponent.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
quality start > win/loss
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions
i probably disagree
but i don’t really want to start thinking about quality fucking starts
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
there's other/better ways of measuring a winner
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
than actually winning?
curious, how do you measure a team?
for pitchers there are a lot of ways, but the w/l differential with their team is one number to look at amongst all the others – IP, k’s, whip, fip, era, etc.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I just don't think you are getting it
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions
getting what?
the differential? it is something to look at, and just as valid as any other single stat number. do you get that? i don’t care if a guy has 9 wins, i care about his % in comparison to his team’s. two totally equal pitchers – the one on the much better team should have a better % than the one on the much lesser team.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it is just not a reliable stat
I think we have tried to convince using a number of different angles. sure, a win loss record CAN give you a general idea on how effective a pitcher is, but it is not a definitive way of gauging pitching prowess
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions
obviously
there is no definitive way. we also know that. there is no one definitive way. so we look at a bunch of different stats (for awards and such – for evaluating talent it is eye-ball). this is just one of the many stats, and just as worthy as any single one, imo – and that’s all any of this is, because there is no definitive answer.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think I can state my definitive answer:
W-L is less worthy than many other statistics of being used to determine which pitcher is the best in the league for the Cy Young award.
I know that’s just an opinion, but I think it’s pretty well backed up by the facts.
I have to agree with that.
There is just to much noise to a W or L. Too many things factor into it that the pitcher can’t control.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 3:17 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree
a pitcher’s w-l is really meaningless. it needs to be looked at in the context of his team – in other words, differential – and in that, as a backward-looking stat, i think it is fairly clear that the best pitchers exceed their teams w-l percentage 95-100% of the time, which is a phenomenal percentage of accuracy for a statistic.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Differential, or adjusted W/L, is better than normal W/L yes
That doesn’t mean it’s better than just simply look at Run Average or FIP.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 4:10 AM EDT up reply actions
not saying it is
(because i don’t know) – just seemed a lot of people thought i didn’t know that the awarding of a “win” to a pitcher is pretty meaningless, but i do know that – it is significant for a team, however, because it is the only significant thing, so i’ve just been trying to tie the two together in a meaningful way so we don’t have to abolish the win for a pitcher altogether, as chitown suggested.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It's a good idea, and like I said, it works well for career analysis
I just don’t think it’s very useful over a season’s worth of play.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions
At least I don't see that it has value over just looking at ERA or FIP or something
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 4:19 AM EDT up reply actions
tiebreaker?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yes
win loss can be fun, I guess I should not have said to ban it! bans never work. we are just saying that it is the least indicative of stats of a pitcher’s talent
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 27, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
win/loss differential
a damn good pitcher will out-perform his team’s percentage over a large enough sample – kind of like out-performing your pythag – does anyone have a problem with pythag?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's a number to look at
that’s a description of W/L i can agree with
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
excuse me while I change my signature again
this one is making me too superstitious
David Freese, LOBster killer
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
hey, he's leading the league in 2-out rbi's with that sig
that’s the definition of lobster killer. can’t get the rbi tonite if they walk you – yes, earlier in the game he could have.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I agree
he is still kicking ass. he even took a walk when he could have easily struck out. I was kinda worried I’d jinx him, plus I am just sick of LOBsters in general and do not want to look at that word every time I post anymore
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
one thing I am pretty sure about
is that Matt Holliday will be worth more than Alf Soriano by the end of the year. just sayin.
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions
but right now Soriano is the best left fielder in the NL
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
no
overall
I'll leave this to Lao Tzu
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I just meant to point out that his defensive limitations probably preclude him from being #1 overall.
he's still not close to a good defensive outfielder
but his range with the knee surgery and ongoing recovery is much better. he has a good left-field arm.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'd still say Braun or maybe even Manny is better overall.
although that was said without looking at any numbers, so it’s probably utter bullshit.
well i'd definitely take braun
manny i’d have to look at numbers.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
manny sux
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
by WAR he is
sss though
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
sori has been hitting better than any of our guys i think
he’s knee is much better now – he’s not limping. if we can’t score, i wouldn’t sleep on the cubs. the fucking padres score as many runs as us a quarter into the season? this doesn’t make sense.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
agreed
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by First mammal to wear pants on May 26, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
did he have 3 singles?
he’ll always be able to hit for average, but the power numbers going back to last mid-july are a concern at this point.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He killed the ball the second time
A pitch down in the zone, what do you want him to do?
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, i like him stinging the ball (and also going the other way)
it’s been too few and far between. just saying that it’s a fair enough sample size dating back to last july that an 80 point drop from your career slugging is going to raise an eyebrow or two.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't see why you would include last season's stats
Especially given that he hit for a ton of power in the beginning of the year.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
just to avoid the SSS talk
i put more stock in trending (over a reasonable enough period) than i do career numbers.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
So how would you project Pujols going forward?
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions
if he rakes through mid-july
then that’s a full year (split between two seasons of course – but this could even be more telling than one single year) – if his numbers are near his career, and we know how fast pujols can up averages and percentages – then i’d be feeling a lot better, personally. if that 80 point drop still existed, however, after a full year, then i’d probably think something’s wrong.
i’m very biased, because he’s the greatest player i’ve seen, so i expect he’s going to go on a tear of unprecedented proportions. however, if i was a cold-blooded, dispassionate saber guy from maine, i’d be more circumspect, especially if i had to weigh in on a contract proposal that is make or break for a team for a decade. i’d definitely stall for more time.
(i’m developing an ulcer over this, i think, because i am torn between a player and the team he symbolizes. he’d sure make it easier if he’d just go on a rampage – tonite may have been step 1 of playing within himself…i keep telling myself)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The saber projections have him matching his career numbers FYI
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i think that's a little optimistic
but so am i when it comes to pujols, so it’s good to hear. at the same time, if someone is putting money on it, like maybe 200 mil, they probably prefer to wait it out a bit.
if by mid-july his slugging from mid-july last year is still down 80 points, would you be concerned at all? because i think if it is his obp will also drop thereafter when teams stop pitching around him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The saber projection isn't optomistic
It’s just what you’d expect Pujols to do given his performance over the past few years and aging. In other words, based off of Pujols’s past stats, here is how he would hit.
The only reason you’d expect him to over or underperform that projection is if you think he is a legimately worse player now that he was at the end of last year. I don’t think we can say that with any clartiy.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
well i hope the fuck not
i know they take age into account, and do their best with that with body type and comps and all – but injury is not something that is projected for, is it? especially something sudden and out of the blue.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
injury is projected inherently with regression to the mean
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions
This may seem like a really dumb question
but how do they figure regression? My math skills suck anymore, and I wasn’t great to begin with. So in a “Regression for Dummies” way, throw it at me.lol
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions
ok
there’s a lot of the projection stuff i’m figuring out – always been more on the talent evaluation side of the ledger – i can pick a racehorse, so to speak, but somebody else would have to project his times going forward, with track(park)-adjustments and aging and all – to use an inexact analogy.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
on vacation
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by First mammal to wear pants on May 26, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
the gobs are bending them over a railing
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
they have a righty or lefty?
just wondering if it’ll be boog or schu.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
with you on that
just depends on if we face a righty or lefty i think
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
definitely a joy
he was so bummed for awhile though that it wasn’t. taking away a little playing time may have helped – he can’t wait to get out there, and he’s done well. if i was a pitcher, i’d want him there. if i was waino tonite, i probably want k’s – lopex at short and schu at second is, imo, about half the defense of boog at short and lopex at second. and i like schu just fine, just not sure that’s our best team with him in there. and really, if he’s not batting leadoff like tonite, his value decreases to me.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
franklins
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Somebody please explain to me how is that everytime Yadi has a man on 1st
he hits a weak grounder to the SS? But if he doesn’t have a man on 1st, he actually hits the damn ball? That has to be one of the most consistently bizarre things there is. It is virtually every damn time.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 1:11 AM EDT reply actions
he's been really clutch
maybe they have to be on 2nd or third?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
hard to figure yadi
i thought he was having a fine offensive year, and then discover he near the bottom of wOBA for catchers.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That's what I mean.
It is just bizarre.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
but Albert was on 2nd...
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
But he had a man on first
and hit a weak grounder to the SS.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
freeser was on first
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions
He hit into 27 DPs last year
and he has hit into 7 so far this year.
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions
that's what he gets for having short legs
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
haha
I guess…might as well laugh about it, don’t see it getting any better.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, but those short legs make him a better catcher...probably
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Dorf on catching?
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I think so
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
hey vep,
since you’re here, can you explain a little better where these run values come from:
If we recast the run values of the most common events relative to the out (rather than relative to the result of an average plate appearance), we get the following:
HR 1.70, 3B 1.37, 2B 1.08, 1B 0.77, NIBB 0.62.
maybe this isn’t the best state of mind in which to be trying to figure out linear weights
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
okay the run values come from looking at how many runs scored on average in an inning after a particular event
So, after each double, like 1.08 more runs were scored in the inning on average compared to when the batter made an out.
I think that’s right.
by vivaelpujols on May 26, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah, that's what i got out of this
The empirical approach to Linear Weights is closely related to the concept of Run Expectancy. To generate the weights, some sample of data (often all plays in a given league-year, or over the course of several years) is analyzed. The change in run expectancy on each play is calculated as follows:
Change in RE = Final RE – Initial RE + Runs Scored on play
For example, take the case of a grand slam with 2 outs, using this RE Table. The initial RE is for the bases loaded, 2 out state (.815 runs). The final RE is for the new state, which is bases empty, 2 outs (.117 runs). Four runs scored on the play, and thus the value of the play was .117 – .815 + 4 = 3.302 runs.
After doing this process for each play, the results are averaged to produce the Linear Weight values. This procedure will result in out values that will estimate runs above average (or in other words, the sum of the product of the coefficients and the frequencies of each event will be zero). In order to estimate the total number of runs scored, to the coefficients of events which include outs (i.e. a strikeout, caught stealing, double play, etc.) must be added 1/3 of the expected run total for the inning (equivalent to the bases empty, no outs run expectancy) for each out on the play.
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Just got some new smokes
Organic American Spirit filtered smokes. Holy Shit! These things gave me a huge nicotine buzz. I couldn’t even finish one.
yeah
American Spirits are br00tal
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I either tried those a long time ago or something similar
I think I went back cowboy killers pretty quickly.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
bugler's with zen filters for me
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I smoked Camel non-filters for a while.
Those will take some years off ya. I quit a couple of years ago, didn’t want to but did anyway. Glad I did it, but hate it at the same time. At nite especially I jones like a mofo.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't smoke a whole lot tbh
have like 2 or 3 a day, unless I am drinking, then it is more like 10 lol
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish that was how I did it.
I’ve gone thru a pack while drinking,.easy. Wouldn’t be able to breathe the next day.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I used to do the whole pack thing in a night while drinking
but I would get the most horrible headaches the next day, and decided to curtail my urges. it just is not worth the chain smoking. btw, DO NOT START SMOKING EVER AGAIN! lol. it is pretty much worthless
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 26, 2010 2:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh I have no intention to start again.
Not to say that stress may drive me to now and again but the last time I tried it, it sucked.lol
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 26, 2010 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
and this is why we don't make predictions before a game.
now to find out how many unicorns I need to withstand Strauss.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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