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Field Notes on The Good Padres

ST. LOUIS - MAY 23: David Freese #23 of the St. Louis Cardinals fields a line drive against the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim at Busch Stadium on May 23, 2010 in St. Louis, Missouri.  The Cardinals beat the Angels 6-5 in 10 innings.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

Proposition one: It's difficult to imagine the Padres being good so soon after being a mess.

Proposition two: Even when you come to grips with that, it's difficult to imagine these Padres being so good. Speaking only as a baseball fan, Kyle Blanks is one of my favorite prospects in baseball—he's huge, 6'6" 270, and he hits like a huge guy should, .250 with a .514 slugging percentage in his first 54 major league games. He appeals to my barely conscious sense of baseball propriety. 

Well, he's hitting .157 this year. Tony Gwynn—no more junior, so far as I can tell—hit .270 with a nice on-base percentage in a feel-good run as the Padres' starting center fielder at the end of the year. He's hitting .183. Everth Cabrera is a waterbug in the Whiteyball tradition, fast, short, etc. etc. .212 with no walks and a lot of strikeouts. Adrian Gonzalez is hitting, and David Eckstein(!), and Nick Hundley and Will Venable, and longtime prospect Chase Headley is taking his move back to third base well enough. But Petco is an ugly place to hit, distorts baseball statistics in an ugly way, and the Padres aren't hitting that well besides. 

Pitchers—The Padres are pitching really well, even for Bizarro Coors, but it's not a top-to-bottom fascinating rotation. Jon Garland, perhaps the least fascinating pitcher in baseball, has a 2.38 ERA, some ugly peripherals, and the first shot at the Cardinals. Kevin Correia's adjusted well to a full-time life in the rotation. Then there's Clayton Richard, part of the Jake Peavy trade, who's off to a solid start, and Mat Latos, the most interesting pitcher of the bunch, who sprinted through minors with some outstanding marks and has shown much the same profile in the majors. MLB.com's human-interest story: Some of their pitchers are really tall. The tallest one, Pitching Chris Young, is on the 60-day disabled list. 

Meanwhile, their relievers are striking out a batter an inning, and aside from the low-leverage margins have been pitching exceedingly well. Mark Worrell is still rehabbing post-surgery, but you'll be happy to know that the Padres wouldn't be sitting atop the NL West without Luke Gregerson!

Star-divide

Gregerson, the second piece of the 640-right-handed-relievers-should-be-enough-for-anybody trade for Khalil Greene, is a remarkably successful example of my favorite class of reliever: average fastball, knuckleball-frequency trick pitch. Fangraphs has him pegging 90 miles per hour on his fastball for the last two years, but this year he's thrown his diving slider nearly as much as Brad Penny throws his fastball—60% of the time. What makes him more effective than the average ROOGY with an absurd slider is his control: this year he's struck out 26 batters against just one unintentional walk. 

As a Cardinal farmhand his minor league stats were impressive but not very predictive—he was a late draft pick, and he didn't do much that hadn't been done before by guys like Mike Sillman. Trading him had to be a scouting decision, and thus far it appears to have been a mistake. 

While we're wallowing: Rule 5 success story Luis Perdomo has been deposited back into AAA, where he's put up some unimpressive numbers so far. Anthony Reyes is throwing off a mound this month!

The Padres are, thus far, successful in a manner befitting the park and the team—some good, unassuming pitchers, one hitter, and the hope that things might be better when the prospects start playing up to their promise. The idea floating around that the Cardinals might delay P.J. Walter's start to get their own unassuming young pitcher—Adam Ottavino seems most likely, but I won't discount Evan MacLane or Lance Lynn until Tony does—seems plausible to me. I'm not sure it makes much of a difference, but if there's any place you'd want a young pitcher like Ottavino to begin his career, and any team you'd like it to begin against, it's these Padres in this ballpark. 

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The Padres have the best bullpen in the NL in my humble opinion

which (unsurprisingly, given it’s the Padres) seems to get pretty much zero press. I tend to agree that, pen aside, they’re really nowhere near this good, though…

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 25, 2010 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

which illustrates the importance of a bullpen

which often gets discounted

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

I’ve been slightly out of the loop for a while – I know we called up Walters for Centiquid, but who was up for Hawksworth last week? That nugget of info seemed to pass me by…

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 25, 2010 6:09 AM EDT reply actions  

No one.

We just went short on relief for a while.

Death needs time for what it kills to grow in.

by the red baron on May 25, 2010 6:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

not a good time for a couple of consecutive 4-inning starts then....

I wondered why I saw Reyes pitching to 3 consecutive right-handers the other day!

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 25, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

They also have the second highest UZR in baseball..

so there’s that.

Also:

David Ortiz has a higher slugging % than Pujols. And Boston was going to DFA this guy a few weeks ago. Meanwhile, we’re going to give Pujols $300 million?

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

It is kind of their trademark skill...

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thats why I've been toying with the idea of an Albert sucks meme

Entirely within the privacy of my own head. Shades of the Franklinstein monster of last year.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on May 25, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please dont crucify me VEB.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on May 25, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I k ow

I dont deserve to live, wheres the Inquisition when you need them. Spurious heretic that I am.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on May 25, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

crucification sounds odder than crucifixion

i like it, just don’t know if it’s really a word

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously...

Is it really necessary to be the “rational police” all the time? You seem to have a knack for it.

He makes a valid point. If we’re paying a first baseman to be the highest paid player in baseball or the second highest paid player in baseball, I sure the hell hope he can slug better than .527. There’s definitely some cause for alarm here:

  • He hit 289/.415/.485/.900 last July, the first time he’s looked human for a whole month since 2002. Well, until May of this season, in which he’s hitting .256/.396/.385/.780 with one home run. Thank goodness for those 7 IBB, without them he’d have an OPS below .740.
  • Only twice in his career has he had a slugging this low nearly two months into the season, 2007 and 2002. In both of those seasons he was still hitting better than .320 at this point. This year he’s hitting .303.

Either he’s playing hurt, or he’s having the longest extended slump of his 10 year career. Either way, you have to admit that by any metric he’s been pretty much a below league average hitter in May.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay
Either way, you have to admit that by any metric he’s been pretty much a below league average hitter in May.

First off, .396 OBP != below league average. Secondly, how predictive would you say one months worth of stats are? And, finally, what, does April not count these days?

by vivaelpujols on May 25, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you take out the IBBs...

he’s OBP-ing 348.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok

So make the assumption that 2 of them are base hits (which is being generous considering he’s hitting .250) and one of them is an extra base hit (based on outcomes, probably a double).

You end up with a line of .258/.353/.423. That’s not setting the world on fire.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

.256 actually for the month of May.

I know — if Holliday was hitting .256 for most of a month there’d be some people calling for his head.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's assuming the plate appearances that ended...

in an IBB didn’t happen.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not predicting anything, for one

and for two, if you add 7 IBB’s to any league average hitter for a month, they’re probably going to increase their OBP pretty dramatically. You can say that drawing IBB’s is a skill, I think it’s just dumb managing.

Sure, April counts. He was awesome in April….

But let’s ask David Ortiz — Does May not count? What’s that Papi? May counts? Ok then, no need to get all upset about it, go hit another homer or something….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

For good measure:

Holliday is hitting .307/.381/.453/.834 in May with 1 HR as well. That’s a combined .805 OPS from our 3 and 4 hitters with exactly 2 homers between them in the month of May. And we think the PADRES don’t belong?

Sure it’s small samples, but that’s pretty pathetic for two guys that are being paid a combined $31M this season.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now,

imagine it for multiple years at ~$45MM in salary…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

We discuss this a bit below.

I fully expect him to improve this season. Why wouldn’t each and every one of us? As I state below, Pujols will likely regain his ridiculosity and finish 2010 in typical Pujols fashion. But, that does not mean that there is not a very real possibility that, after an extension, in 2016 and 2017, that Pujols and holliday won’t be making a combined salary of $45MM and posting a combined .805 OPS.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for that kick in nuts.

I really love to start out the day like that.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah what fourstick said...

and try not to be such a pr*ck next time…

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you are a bit confused.

The rational-minded Boston media had declared David Ortiz to be dead. They even ran his obituary in the Globe, I think (but I could be wrong). There were rumblings that he may be DFA’d, but it’s hard to pick out what was based on concrete sources. Nonetheless, isn’t Ortiz Exhibit A as to why we shouldn’t be freaking out over a month’s worth of results? Ortiz was terrible in April—far worse than Albert in May—yet, he has bounced back and seems poised to have a productive season. There is no reason to think that Albert Pujols won’t do the same, but bounce back and be something more than productive…that is, ridiculous.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

every VEB thread has some. it's on the table in the corner.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

was that ever nominated for the mythical VEB tag line?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

it has nothing to do with baseball.

automatically invalid.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Yer Playin' Sports, the SweaT Can Get in Yer Face!

That’s why Towlie always says Don’t forget to bring a towel!

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on May 25, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Towel Day, you hoopy froods!

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD

by The Continental on May 25, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meme blender:

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD

by The Continental on May 25, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Anyone who would borrow douglas adams's towel is a sick bastard.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on May 25, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop spelling adams wrong you stupid *

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

douglas adams owned the first Mac in the UK

interesting fact for you there.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 5:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ortiz had a 101 OPS+ in 2009 and a 123 in 2008.

With his ridiculous May so far, he’s climbed up to 126 this year.

That’s productive, but we’re paying Ryan Ludwick half of what Ortiz is making to do the same thing at the plate the last 2 seasons while being an above average defender in the outfield, which Ortiz is not.

There’s good evidence that Pujols will come out of this, that’s true. But if we’re paying the guy $27M, I sure would hope that he’s better than David Ortiz has been the last two seasons. When you’re making that kind of cash, you can’t have sub .800 OPS months because your team is destined to struggle when that happens — unless you play for the Yankees, who have probably paid for 7 guys just like you.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

bad thing about baseball...

you end up paying for what a guy has done instead of what he is doing. Remember all those early to mid 2000s years when pujols was working for peanuts?

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that we disagree all that much.

Uneasiness is beginning to creep into each of our minds, I suspect, as well it should. 10 years and $300MM—the numbers often being bandied about by the gossip columnists—has the very distinct possibility of crippling our franchise for years, especially when coupled with the Holliday deal. This question has more to do with natural decline, whether brought on by age or injury or both. Perhaps what we are seeing right now is the early onset of decline. Perhaps in five years we will look back and point to this moment as the moment DeWitt and Mo should have known that Pujols was done. Or, perhaps we’ll only be able to raise this moment in our memories after searching Baseball-Reference in 2015 for the last time Pujols had a bad month. Worrying about the ten-year contract extension is a different proposition than whether or not Pujols will turn it around this year. I suspect he will turn it around this year. What the month of May, 2010 offers is a cautionary tale of being so dependent on Ten-Millionaires. Lohse, Holliday, and Pujols have yet to live up to their large shares of the payroll.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It almost sounds as though you're suggesting

that there’s some chance that Lohse at some point WILL live up to his salary.

by chalk on May 25, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pineiro did.

After 2008, who would have guessed that “El Pinata” would live up to his $7.5MM salary in 2009? Then, he gave us roughly triple the value of his salary. No one has been a bigger critic of the Lohse contract than me, and I strongly believe that he will not live up to his eight-figure salary in 2011 and 2012, but, if he’s healthy, pitches ~200 innings, and is a 2-to-3-win pitcher, he’ll be pretty close. (Of course, those are BIG “if’s,” but, it could happen.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if there would be any way to get out of this with no hurt feelings

and no bitter flounces … by re-setting Albert’s role. Not asking him (and not paying him) to be Albertian. It’s not like this lineup can’t continue to produce for years to come.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

The market will determine that

If someone is willing to pay him $25M+ AAV per season, then the Cardinals can’t expect him to take $15M.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

effin market.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to post much more on this topic

As I’ve been putting together a FanPost on the 10 Millionaires thing for the past couple of weeks (It’s a lot of data to sift through). Suffice to say: In the current baseball economic climate it’s very tough to win consistently built around free agents.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

boy i cannot wait for this.

the economics of baseball is something i’m most definitely interested in, but too lazy to research myself.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's taking forever as I've got a few hundred other priorities right now

But I think it will be a good read for most when it is complete.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Priorities:
  1. Baby Zoey
  2. Promotion Interviews
  3. Helping wife transition back to work this week and next.
  4. Lakers playoff games
  5. Season and Series finales (Ahh 24, you took the easy road out…killing Bauer would have been better*) of half my favorite shows.
  6. My Poker League end of season tourney — winner gets a huge chunk of change.
  7. Finishing VEB Fanpost

*Ok, SERIOUSLY, the President doesn’t sign a peace treaty because she can’t stand a cover up, then lets Bauer walk after he murders an entire Russian contingent of diplomats in cold blood, nearly assassinates a head of state, and kidnaps a former president? That’s the treason trifecta right there isn’t it? Isn’t that kinda what got you in this mess in the first place? I’m sure that NSA has no access to those drone feeds from CTU considering they’re running the whole joint on chicken wire after the EMP. Repair a cover up with a cover up? He should at least be going to jail and facing the consequences of his actions — that’s what a real patriot would do.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with your points

the closure i got last night was good enough for me, but i feel as if they left it somewhat open ended so they could make the movie. taking jack into custody would have spoiled that whole movie thing.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I contend..

that the movie idea is stupid because it can’t follow the format of the show (how does 2 hours become exciting if it enfolds in real time? You can’t possibly have enough going on in a 2 hour movie without a 30 minute rundown on what happened in the previous 10-12 hours as background), and that’s what made the show ultimately successful — it’s a thriller movie concept stretched out over 24 episodes that encapsulate a day. There’s always a ticking clock. I just don’t see how that works in a movie format.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

of course i’ll go watch the movie, but i think it’s a stupid idea and just a money pull for the cast.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Money grab by FOX, more likely.

I just hope Logan is in the movie. He was wonferfully entertaining this season.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's going to happen

Just a hunch……lol

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It all depends on when they have the movie take place.

Will it take place after the end of the series or in between two seasons?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see what you mean

I think if you’re doing a movie, the best movie idea would be fleshing out Bauer’s past working for Special Ops prior to season 1. You bring back Dennis Haysbert, bring in Michael Madsen, Tony Almeida, and weave in some other characters form the shows first few seasons. I think it makes the most sense.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interview with showrunner

of “24” in the Hollywood Reporter:

THR: What about killing other characters like Chloe or Kim Bauer?

Gordon: We have to save some people for the movie!

THR: Right. What’s the status update for that?

Gordon: Another draft is being written (by screenwriter Billy Ray). I don’t have a timetable. I think sooner rather than later is a good idea, but the people at Fox have their own timetable.

THR: Is the plan to bring back series regulars other than Jack?

Gordon: Right now, yes it is (the plan) but because it is a fluid (situation), I don’t know. It is still in the early stages.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm choosing to stop reading

I have only gotten through the first hour of the finale…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take your time sir. I'm sure it will be worth the wait.

Actually, I just found out that I have one on the way myself…. a kid, not a fanpost.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats

you’ll never be so happy to lose sleep

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

I’m sure it’s going to be an adventure. I helped raise almost all of my nieces and nephews and I have 19 of them. So it’s not going to be as much of a shock for me as for my fiance.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

update on Lohse

he flew to California. just not to San Diego.

  Fox_Sports_MW Lohse to see a specialist in Anaheim tomorrow. He’ll get his forearm checked and we’ll figure what is next for him after-JH in SD 43 minutes ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought I read that he was traveling with the team

to SD, then going to LA.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh that's right

they have to hug him and give him his bubble wrap.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget the bubble wrap

put him in one of those full-sized bubbles.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bubble Boy

so he walks to Anaheim?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not going to pitch anyway.

might do him some good to catch the scenery.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

clear his head

you know, I’m reaching the point where I don’t want Kyle Lohse to pitch in any hypothetical postseason.

His mental makeup in a crunch is awful. I wish he’d pull a Boggs and get over it already — I had no hope for Boggs, but it seems he’s figured something out (which unfortunately involves not looking at his spot before he throws, but hey progress).

That, and DanUp keeps jinxing him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

rolls?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bubble rolls. the dude walks.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure the Luke Gregerson trade hurts

But when won the Edmonds – Freese trade right?

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 8:41 AM EDT reply actions  

and freese will be a lot more productive and valuable than gregerson, over his career

in fact there’s probably a fair argument to be made that he’s looking at least as good as chase headley is right now.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 25, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't help but call that guy Headley Lamarr.

If he makes a good play I will refer to it as “heading them off at the pass” because he hates that cliche.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 25, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

wonder how freese feels about his name cliches

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on May 25, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

He feels little other than the tragic love for his wife who was cryogenically frozen due to a rare terminal illness.

That and hatred for the Batman. And a soft spot for wintry puns.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 25, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I was going to post the screencap of Freese in the mask

But then I couldn’t find it! Curses. The lack of searchability for screencaps has foiled me again.

By the way, if anyone has been away for a while, the scans of the scorecards, pictures of Dennys in the wrestling mask, and certain Brewers photoshops should not be missed.

I’m sure there’s more, but I have forgotten. Oh, and supposedly the stache is returning.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I DID

PANIC!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

TRADE FOR A CLOSER OMGZ

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

RASMUS FOR K-ROD STRAIGHT UP

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 25, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously though

do you have any time frame when you posted it?
was it a link or the actual cap?
if you have a time frame, i’ll find it

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasn't mine

otherwise I’d just search my own comments
but I swear someone got a cap from the KSDK piece.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

when was that

or when was the piece
which month?

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd search batman, but probably

just get a ton of CodyG comments.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Google image search for

“David Freese Batman” is pretty funny….aboot ten pages of VEB links…none of which are the image.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Google “David Freese Mr. Freeze”

Link

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not the one.....

looking for the screen cap with him wearing his Batman mask.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, in the mask

Nevermind then

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...my work is in a google image search?!

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

All over google images.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB comes up in google image searches that have nothing to do with the Cardinals.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

search:

vexedtechie: official photoshop bitch of the st. louis cardinals

in the comments, and you will find a photoshop he posted late last night of reyes in a cardinal wrestling mask. i remember that exact phrase i typed, but don’t recall which thread it was – either the main post of yesterday or the day before, or the last game thread.

anyway, someone (yadi2 i believe) had requested the mask in uniform colors, and vexed outdid himself, but no one was around when he posted it.

also, if you search something like: “braun reaching for or trying not to spill the mug of beer” in comments you should find vexed’s shop of that incident, done sometime in the past three days i believe.

not sure if that’s anything you are looking for, but in case…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reposts...

Reyes in the cards mask.

Braun’s beerspill

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

the scans of the scorecards are awesome too

thanks vexed

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah....

I have the pitchin’ cardinal as my Facebook pic, heh

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Es aqui. Clickable.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've braved the 2000 comment gamethread to bring you links:

Luchador Reyes in his original green mask

2010 Scorecard

2008 Scorecard

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD

by The Continental on May 25, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever, man...those 3 pics are on your picasa acct, no thread braving needed!

Trust me, that’s how I got the full-size pitching cardinal.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I'm at work and... it was just easier to pull them from the thread.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD

by The Continental on May 25, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's ok with it

his into song: Freeeeeezzzzinnn…rests his head on a pillow made of concrete…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's an excellent intro

i wish he’d take his time going to the plate so i can hear more every time

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

but look at the exceptional value they got from edmonds!

Or that we got from khalil!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on May 25, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Khalil 2009 > Edmonds 2008 (as a Padre)

Freese > Gregerson
Ozzie > Templeton
Williams > Lankford
Mura = Lezcano
Tomko = Hackman

They’ve never once won a trade with us.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

but we didn't trade edmonds for khalil

so you can’t really compare it like that.

it would be more like

freese > edmonds 2008, but

gregerson > khalil 2009

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freese + Khalil > Gregerson + Edmonds

I suppose we lost the Khalili-Gregerson trade… But it was so similar to Freese-Edmonds I just have to combine them…

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

But they happened less than a year apart...

We’ve never lost a trade year with the Padres.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

better, but still stretching it.

but the fact that we got freese from them, assuming he really is as good as he seems to be, makes up for the khalil debacle, i think.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless he just falls off a cliff, both offensively and defensively,

we definitely ended up on the better end of things all the way around. Even with some regression, Freese should still be, at least, good.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

we've never lost a trade with the Athletics

if you include drafting Albert Pujols 6 years prior as part of the Mulder trade…

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha

and yet to be determined is the holliday-walrus swap.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 26, 2010 6:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mike and Mike had a trivia question

only three pitches with 100+ wins and below 3.50 ERA. I got two right, but I can’t figure out who the third one. Does anyone have any guess on the three?

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Active pitchers?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

This screams of a Jayson Stark question, btw...

If it’s active pitchers there’s more than three:

  1. Johan Santana
  2. Roy Halladay
  3. Roy Oswalt
  4. Tim Hudson

I’d also have to guess that Peavy is pretty close (he might not have 100 wins, though).

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

But that's 4 guys...and I'm pretty sure about all 4 of them although I haven't looked them up.

If Pedro counts as active and Peavy has 100 wins (and he’s got to be close) that’s SIX.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was Jayson Stark

and he said only three, but you provider 4. I wonder if he was going by ERA coming into the season, Hudson might have just slipped under the ERA in this year.

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nope -- Coming into the year Hudson had a 3.49 per B-Ref

Sounds like Jay Jay should do his homework before coming up with trivia questions.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I'm guessing he had

Johan and both Roy’s as his answer?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

i missed the answers

it was right as I was arriving to work.

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i believe his answers were

Oswalt, Halladay, and Santana.

I guess Carpenter, Oswalt, and Halladay. I’m positive he would have Halladay and Santana since they both play on the east cost. He might have had Hudson over Oswalt.

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carp had some awful years in Toronto before Tommy John surgery.

His ERA as a Cardinal is 2.92 and he has 73 wins with the BoB.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would've guessed CC

but he’s 140 and 3.63

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

RE: 2010 Padres

Anybody have an active B-Ref subscription?

If so, I’d like to know the last time a team was in first place with only two hitters hitting better than an .800 OPS. There can’t be too many in the history of the game.

And, Dan? They’re actually underperforming they’re pythag right now by one game (27-17 vs 28-16 actual record). So by runs scored and runs against, they’re actually BETTER than their record.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:07 AM EDT reply actions  

2010 Pads = 1982-85 Cards
The Padres are, thus far, successful in a manner befitting the park and the team—some good, unassuming pitchers, one hitter, and the hope that things might be better when the prospects start playing up to their promise.

Plus as someone pointed out, they play great defense.

Sounds like Whitey Ball 2.0:

"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning

by gocards62 on May 25, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

Since that is basically what Seattle is trying and so far failing to do.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 25, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're telling me

Going tonight to see the M’s offense against Verlander

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

That strikes me as a liberal use of the word "offense"

Maybe “bat wielders” or “stand-in-batter’s-boxers” would be more strictly accurate to what they do.

by mojowo11 on May 25, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Warm bodies thrown into the fray"?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's honestly a pretty apt description

How many of their players are retreads that nobody else would take?

Sweeney and Griffey for sure, Bradley was a risky acquisition, Josh Bard nobody really wanted

The only desirable players on their offense right now are Ichiro and Franklin Guitierrez

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy, did you pick the team to intern for.lol

Seriously though, that is a helluva a cool gig. Kinda wish that I had done something like that when I was younger. Did they ask you whom your fav team was?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not when I interviewed, no

Just the basic credentials, etc.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really didn't expect that they would.

Just thought it would be humorous if they did.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least his answer wouldn't have been the angels

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

jed hoyer the new jack z?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that pythag

thought I mentioned it, must have been too busy watching Luke Gregerson clips to do so.

by DanUpBaby on May 25, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ottavino
The idea floating around that the Cardinals might delay P.J. Walter’s start to get their own unassuming young pitcher—Adam Ottavino seems most likely

Considering that he pitched last night, I would think the Cards aren’t interested in using him until Lohse officially goes on the DL. My guess is that Walters fills in for Penny and KMac fills in for Lohse and his missed start later this week. Once they decide to DL Lohse (why they haven’t yet is beyond me), then maybe we see Ottavino, but he probably won’t be ready to start before Walters.
Will the Cards choose to bring in Ottavino, Salas, or Sanchez to fill in for KMac in the pen, and move KMac to the rotation instead? They’ve got to be considering it. They’d be depending on Motte to take over set-up duty in that situation, which is a pretty scary thought (but not much scarier than KMac in that spot I guess).

by stxcardsfan on May 25, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

It won't be K-Mac

They’d have to call up somebody else I would think, and it’s still possible that Hawk goes on the DL to make a roster spot for that guy.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would think it will all depend on Walters' start.

If he has a good start, then they may consider making a move to AAA for a fifth starter, but if he looks bad, then I think they will have to move KMac into the rotation, as he’s our best option for the role, IMO. It’s going to be tough to successfully fill out 2 places in the rotation with our Minor league system. Walters is really going to have to shine for them not to use KMac. I guess Boggs is our other option to fill in instead of KMac, but I still feel KMac is the better option.

by stxcardsfan on May 25, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can see your point

I think Walters will do well on Thursday. How well and is it good enough to have the Cards go to Ottovino…i guess we’ll just have to see

by hockeyno93 on May 25, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

If PJ gets shellacked

with his start and the brain trust decides to move KMac to the rotation, then I’d like to see two moves. Salas up from AAA to take KMac’s bullpen spot and exchange Otto for PJ. Otto has upside and could solidify the backend of the rotation for years to come on a cost controlled basis. That’s a valuable commodity.

by jjray on May 25, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

You make a valid point

I just don’t see it happening.

They aren’t going to break up a solidly performing bullpen when they have 3 solid options at AAA (Walters, Ottavino, McLane, or even Lynn who doesn’t seem ready yet) that can come up and make starts. That’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul — it’s a lose lose, imo.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess only time will tell

One thing that is apparent is that the offense is going to have to step up and win some games while the pitching staff heals. Without Penny, and with Carp struggling a bit, we’ll have only Waino and Garcia (fingers crossed) to lean on. We’ll need offense and solid D to get wins when the other 3 pitchers in the rotation are on the mound.
I agree that our pen has been solid, but I worry that the pen may hit a bump in the road if the replacements in the rotation are unable to eat enough innings. I’m worried that the pen may get over worked. I think the system will be much more successful supplementing the pen than the rotation, if the pen becomes over worked.

by stxcardsfan on May 25, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry man but i don't know how you can say Carp is struggling with a straight face

he’s got a 3.09 ERA and has the best xFIP on the team… add in an 8.19 K/9 and 3.72 K/BB ratio then he’s doing great

sure he’s given up 9 homers, but that actually is promising considering its way over than his career (hence expect few homers to be given up from now on)

Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog

by stlcardsfan4 on May 25, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

your two names are too similar

i always get you two mixed up, so it’s kinda weird to see you arguing…

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

bullpen has been solid...i don't see them breaking it up yet

Walters takes gets the ball on Thursday…..Ottovino will get lohses spot this weekend in Chicago.

by hockeyno93 on May 25, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

ot haha... ways in which Brendan Ryan is replaced

it’s getting to be a long list. Brian Barden even stole his walk-up song.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions  

p.s.

bj rains is the reason I am not on twitter. good god, man! we know your article is coming! and coming! and coming! and now it’s here! hey it’s here! look, it’s here!

[redacted.]

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's good at covering the kind of stuff I cover

the esoteric stuff. so unfortunately I try to read him quite a bit. but man, he revamps ideas from just about everyone, and this whole needy-twitter thing is extremely annoying. the Globe-Dem has its own twitter for advertising stories. then he RTs everyone who says good job on the article.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree on all points

i rarely actually click through to read, but the times i do i’m at the very least entertained by his stories. but damn, is he annoying on twitter. i follow because he technically follows the “beat” and very occasionally breaks a story, but the rest is just BS.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

same here... he has the gametime tweets I'm looking for.

if he’d just stick to that, it would be fine.
I would not be surprised if he had a dozen tweets one day, consisting of “love me!! why don’t you love me!! tell me if you do!!!”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i enjoyed the article a lot.

i loved that A.D.A.M. made skip change his walk-up song. and i agree it would be cool to have a song for Franklin.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

in less grumbly notes

don’t forget to rec d-dee’s fanshot.
Brought to you by the Read Moar Fanshots campaign.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love Penny's choice.

fitting.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was hoping

Holliday would use a Creed song after his twitter thing. It would have been funny.

by WyoCardsFan on May 25, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would have been bitchin.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

love mather's

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on May 25, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a strange feeling that pujols busts out of his slump this week

i seem to remember him hitting well in this park, so i think he’s going 10 for 13 with three bombs and 12 RBIs.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

as long as he's fit and ready for the weekend

the last thing I want to deal with right now is cubs fans + struggling pujols/holliday….especially if blind soriano finds a nut during the series…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

nothing would make my memorial day weekend better than the cardinals sweeping

because in a horrible, puke-worthy scenario, the cardinals have a bad week in san diego while the cubs have a good week. the cubs sweep behind soriano’s hitting and holliday’s and pujols’ continued struggles, and we get to hear about how the cubs are better than the cardinals.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reply fail!

I think he’s going to bust out of it soon. I think the contract thing is weighing on him, causing him to try and hit everything out of the park. Eventually he’s going to go on an absolute tear. Maybe that even starts tonight….?

by mattisnotfrench on May 25, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Young?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a shot. plus when he came around to score later in the inning, he hurt the catcher, bard, too.

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on May 25, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

one man wrecking crew.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 5:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe not
Pujols hit .231 with a homer, double and three RBIs. He is 4 for 24 (.167) with a solo homer in his last six games at Petco.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

FESPN finally mentions the apocalypse

coverage of the apocalypse clause can only follow. hopefully not by Jeremy Schaap.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

would be sweet

to see some flat stan the man images from our global VEB’ers

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by scoot on May 25, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

i signed the petition

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by scoot on May 25, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Mo cracks me up

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

game start tonight moved
MLBSTLCardinals twitter
  
Cardinals/Mariners game on Monday, June 14 selected as National TV game by ESPN…start time moves from 7:15 p.m. CT to 6:09 p.m. CT.

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

thats not tonight

but good to know either way

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by scoot on May 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

argh

i need to learn to pay attention to stuff

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

we now all know that you have a time machine

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw, hell

looks like i’m going straight from work then. means i have to wake up in the morning to run. blah.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey I found out about this yesterday through internal email

I could be a leak!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

why didn't you share this?

some leak you are… get it together!

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine, I'll start sharing all of my emails with you

Re: Outlook problems

“I am out of the office today. I will see if I can get someone else in IT to help you out.
O. "

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cancellation

The U2 concert at Qwest that was to follow our game on June 20th has been cancelled due to a performer’s (Bono) injury. .

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, that's all I can really share without getting into stuff that'll actually get me fired

But I have it on good authority that a Felix-for-Stavinfection trade is in the works. Someone let Buster Olney know

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

then you can't really be a leak now can you

that’s false advertising, you know…

as for the trade, i’m sure someone is mulling it over..

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell them we'll throw in Miles.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I think Felix and Dustin Ackley might get it done.

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by Taskmaster on May 25, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, not just everybody can PH like he can.

It takes a special breed to hit a homer on one knee.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet

I will be at that one, and that works way better for me.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 25, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh hey, it's a 10@10

#5 is some Boog and Bombs fodder. However, Lopez is not listed.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Noticed that KFL has more 4 inning games than even Welley.

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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

KFL has 12 as a cardinal

in 42 starts before the injury, he had 4 – 3 were in 2008 and all before june 25, and 1 in 2009 before may 23, when he got hit in the 7th by mahay while squared to bunt. he pitched the 8th and finished his day with 6 k’s and 0 bb’s and perez completed the shutout with a scoreless ninth.

in 22 starts since the injury, he has 8 – first they skipped a start, and he came back to pitch one of those 8 before being DL’d. while rehabbing in the minors he was hit again in exactly the same manner, and finally, 5 weeks after his last start for the cards, he made another. there eventually ensued another 2-week layoff due to recurrent problems, followed by an outing of 1-inning in relief and then he finished out the season. this year he had 3 – ari, philly (the 5 unearned run game), and this last outing against the angels when he began experiencing this thing again.

welley may have had injuries too – i’m not going through all his game logs etc. because he’s no longer on the team – but it’s pretty safe to say when a guy has 1 short outing from june of 2008 to june 2009, and then suddenly 8 in far fewer starts after being injured, that the injury likely played a key role.

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by cardball on May 25, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's dead all up in here

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

and all us up here... have to wait for another West Coast game. dammit.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

on a positive note

that would mean everyone else in my house will be asleep so i can enjoy baseball
on a not so positive note, that would mean i would be useless at work the next days… meh, doesn’t matter

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

U2 official fucks up baseball.

apologies for the swearin’, but damn.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2010/05/u2-postpones-tour-long-major-league-road-trips-remains/1

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

^officially

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for The Joshua Tree

I have to agree with that.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely by far their best album

not saying a whole lot though ;)

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I rather liked that one.

Maybe it was the age that I was when it came out, more nostalgia than actual musical critique.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like that only to be with you song

that’s off of joshua tree, right?

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

I used to really like U2, but I’ve never liked that song. There’s a gospel version of it which is quite good, mind you.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 5:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

so boring

and so preachy

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind the preachiness.

It’s just that after TJT the all sounded the same. That and Bono annoys me.

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s just that after TJT the all sounded the same

I think that’s kinda wrong, actually.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 5:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

dumb question about switch hitting

so… every once in a while my brain would randomly pull something like this right out of thin air..

why are switch hitters so rare? in tennis you learn forehand and backhand, there’s no way around it. why is it that you can’t learn to swing well from both sides of the plate without too much effort?

explain.

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Necessity

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because in tennis, you still use the right hand to generate power

A switch hitter has to generate power with both hands, which is very hard to learn to do

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by mysterui on May 25, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to mention coordination and body control

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I plan on teaching my son to switch hit

I didn’t learn how to until softball, so outside of my coed league, it does me no good.
(that is, as long as it doesn’t take away from his place kicker training)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

(insert joke here)

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the same reason that "switch throwers" are so rare.

Or “switch golfers” are non-existent.

It’s incredibly hard to do. I attempted to do it when I was in middle school (I bat left and throw right, so it should be natural for me to bat right handed and easy to learn how) but found it incredibly hard to be turned around and coordinate body to hit that way.

It’s not like Tennis — you have a “forehand” and a “backhand”, which means your power hand if “forward” and “backward”. With baseball, you have to change the position of your hands so that the left hand is on the bottom from one side and the right hand is on the bottom from the other side. You also change the position of your lower torso and rotate in a different direction. Tennis players learn this from day one, and even most tour players have one that they favor over the other. The true greats, like Federer, McEnroe, and Borg were equally good with either forehand or backhand, but you didn’t see them all of the sudden wielding the racket with the opposite hand and serving with it did you?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I learned to golf left-handed and switched to right.

It’s been YEARS since I swung a club left-handed.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i used to enjoy luke jensen

who played doubles with his brother murphy. being ambidextrous, he used to serve with either hand.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Bryan brothers are twins, one lefty and one righty

Talk about being engineered for tennis

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that was the same with the jensens

except the twins part – murph was lefty and luke played righty.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

As for switch golfers....

Vijay Singh is a scratch golfer both left handed and right handed…. Just sayin…

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by norlanski on May 25, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

He may be scratch from both sides

but he plays tournaments right handed only.

Similarly, I bet there’s a lot of hitters who could by average hitters in the major leagues from both sides of the plate, but they’re so good from one side of the plate it just isn’t worth the time and effort to do so. They’re going to be better from one side than the other and it takes a lot of practice to master switch hitting.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

also, lefty hitters have the natural advantage of being closer to first

and, even more so, that most pitchers are righty. so there is little incentive for them to learn to bat righty, and this must reduce the number of switch-hitters overall.

i’d like to know what percentage of switch-hitters in mlb are naturally righty hitters – i’d bet it’d be extremely high, but don’t know how to find that out, since you can’t tell anything by which hand they throw with. a notable exception would be ichiro, who is a natural righty hitter, but then he doesn’t even switch-hit – nonetheless, it illustrates the advantages of batting lefty.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it's the opposite actually

Most right handed hitters don’t have nearly the awful splits against righties than left handed hitters have against lefties. That’s why most hitters switch hit: They’re simply awful against pitchers throwing from the same side. Eddie Murray and Chipper Jones were definitely this way and learned to switch hit at a young age to compensate.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd bet the opposite

lefty hitters just never face the same number of lefty pitchers like righties face righties growing up and throughout their careers. it’s therefore “natural” that righties hit righties better than lefties hit lefties, especially in the age of LOOGY specialization. of the probably 20-30 switch-hitters i’ve known at a high school or collegiate level, all of them were righties naturally who learned to hit lefty because of the inherent advantages.

it’d be cool if a journalist with access did a piece on this, because it would really have to be an interview process – albeit with the one simple question “what is your natural side?” i don’t even know how many are currently in the bigs, 60-70? wouldn’t take long to contact them all for a minute each.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was impossible for us to know that Gregerson would be this good

but it still sucks that we don’t have him.

Padres are in first because they have great defense, just enough hitting to get by, and one of the best bullpens in the game. Whity Herzog would be proud of them

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

You ship out enough...

minor league arms, eventually one will be good.

Chris Perez still sucks.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say he sucks

just a tad above average. he still has control issues, but he’s not a bad pitcher by any means

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

This year...

something fishy is going on… No control, but also reduced Ks. Maybe just a sss blip…

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although

The Cardinals did lead the league in runs scored in ’85 and ’87 I believe. So those two teams just had it all I guess.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on May 25, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, I know what we can do

Ballot-stuff.
 JohnMarecek Looks like Philly fans have been stuffing the ASG ballot boxes. #25VotesPerDay #MLB #NoShame 9 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

Who’s got the link?

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by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like stuffing to me

NL 1B:
1. Albert Pujols
2. R. Howard
3. P. Fielder
4. J. Loney
5. L. Berkman

NL 2B:
1. C. Utley
2. R. Weeks
3. M. Prado
4. K. Johnson
5. Skip Schumaker

NL CATCHER:
1. Yadier Molina
2. C. Ruiz
3. I. Rodriguez
4. B. McCann
5. R. Martin

NL OUTFIELDERS:
1. R. Braun
2. J. Werth
3. S. Victorino
4. A. Ethier
5. Matt Holliday

ballot linki

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Baseball Prospectus,

we have a 59% chance of making the playoffs (51% chance of winning the division, BTW). That being so, we should definitely not be voting for Skip, since homefield advantage in the World Series at stake in the ASG. So, I voted for: C Yadi; 1B Pujols; 2B Utley; 3B Rolen (nostalgia involved); SS Hanley; OF Braun, Rasmus, Werth. I believe that gives us our best chance. What do you all think?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clever man, you.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not telling anyone who to vote for

i just posted the ranking as evidence that PHI players are at the top positions
i myself didn’t vote all STL
in the AL i only voted for players i thought would give the NL a chance to win

by d-dee on May 25, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

C. Izturis

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The new Tinker to Evers to Chance?

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, i don't know about victorino without checking

but you can’t really argue with the philly guys.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Werth and Utley should start, for sure.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just voted all royals

"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"

by jacksonian on May 25, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, though

howard is a bona fide star (despite not being that good), Utley is the best 2B in the NL by a mile, and Werth is probably a perfectly justifiable OF selection as he is (I think) the most valuable OF in the NL this year by WAR, and has averaged 5 WAR the last two years.

Ruiz probably isn’t the 2nd best catcher in the NL, but then I don’t think yadi is the best either, Ruiz is having a solid season, and a few of the alternative options are having poor years.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Casey Macagaheee

for 3rd.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

or panda

but rolen is having a fine year.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

One last hurrah for Rolen.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

even though he's with a division rival now

i hope the shoulder holds up and he can finish strong – good chance couple good years puts him over the top for the HOF, which seemed a lock before the injuries.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should wear an Indiana hat...

maybe a hay seed or an ear of corn. Gold on Green.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woot for Indiana!

We like corn!

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on May 25, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

more than iowa or nebraska?

is that like the belgians battling the czechs each year for per capita beer consumption?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

No we don't....

…as the ol’ Indiana Beach motto goes: “There’s more than just corn in Indiana”

Also, I love Scotty… Product of Jasper, correct?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe so.

Been thru there a few times, nice little town. The kind that Mellenkamp sings about.

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's "Pink Houses" everywhere??

I hate John Cougar MellenCougar.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't know about the pink houses

but scotty’s definitely from jasper – they hosted regionals one year for ripken (maybe they do it every year for that age group – believe it was 14’s – but your team is sort of limited to that one year unless you start forging birth certificates so no one ages)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, didn't see one pink house in the whole damn town.

A lot his non-commercialized stuff is really good. They just over-play the hell out of his songs.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I happen to be surrounded by corn fields.

So the concept of corn isn’t foreign to me.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on May 25, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either Phillies or Cardinals.

No injuries so a better overall performance with Phillies, but he had his best season – a beastly .421 wOBA and 8.8 WAR – with the Cardinals.

Tough call for the HoF if he makes it.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would bet one not associated with TLR.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

not up to him

the league office chooses, after boggs tried to sell his hat-wearing rights to the devil rays.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

A man after Jose Canseco's own heart.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder how MLB decides

he played one more year with Philly than with STL, but mid-02 through 04 were arguably his best years.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they have to decide, that means he's a HOF'er

so i’m sure they would consult him also. it’s just that they have the ultimate say, to avoid the boggs situation. this was going to be an interesting debate/decision with clemens also, and still could be obviously.

so i think if it’s real close, scotty’s input would probably sway the decision. they are really just guarding against the bogus, which had never happened, to my knowledge, when players got to choose until boggs tried to pull his thing for a title and cushy job with the rays.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you notice the last HOF?

didn’t look like the players’ opinion had much weight.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

dawson?

what’s the story? i didn’t really follow anything. assumed he was going in as an expo. he’s not, or he doesn’t want to?

or is it someone else – i forget who’s in this class?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it'd have to be a Cards one, wouldn't it?

Even with his fall-out with the club, his best years were definitely here. He had 5 years with us and with the Phils, I suppose…

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

forgot about him

Jorge Cantu is who I picked

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on May 25, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mcaghee

is such a butcher, I’m not sure he’s worthy even with his offense.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

has he been a butcher this year?

couple games i watched the announcers praised how much he’s improved each time he made a good play – of course that might not be saying much, considering where he started.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

he didn’t look very good when I saw him. Kind of had cinderblock feet. UZR doesn’t like him fwiw.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

i picked freese. we’re supposed to be stuffing here, people!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta be specific

stuffing for the cards.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah, it's downright devious

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

again, to be fair

Freese has been awesome.

Why is no-one voting for Ryan Zimmerman? Leads the NL in WAR and is actually genuinely probably the best 3B in the NL anyway.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 6:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i always forget about him

honestly no idea why, especially when i am a big fan of his.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 26, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for Zimmerman.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 26, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

no!

the AL loads the stupid votes in their starting lineup, then the managers’ picks win the game.

so vote stupider!

/not really. but it would be funny.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

the players who will ultimately decide the game, in all likelihood the pitchers

are not even voted on, so the manager’s have the greatest influence on this game, imo, considering too how they allocate the playing time. a good manager might only be worth a handful of wins a year, but his impact on this one game is much more significant than that (and as you said, he also picks the reserves, with input – i believe -from the coaches he also picks)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's go, Cholly...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll let him have his binocs for this one game

if it helps us win.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

here

stuff away

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail. damn.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

should be a very even series with san diego

offenses scoring about the same, with the pads at 188 runs and cards at 196 having played one more game.

we should at least get to see yadi tested. pads lead the majors in stolen bases with 52, one more than the rays, but the pads success % is better. (cards, fwiw, are 24/37)

cards dismal with 4 sac flies – pads have 11. but we’ve out-homered them by about the same margin.

pitching is damn close, as they just edge us out in team ERA, 3.03 to 3.07, which rank second and third in mlb (rays first with just under 3)

pads are second in the bigs in uzr at 19.9. cards rank 9th at 8.4 (giants are first)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

the SacFly vs Homer

stat:

cards dismal with 4 sac flies – pads have 11. but we’ve out-homered them by about the same margin.

leans toward the Friars since Petco isn’t conducive to the long ball. Of course the Cards’ 2,3, & 4 spots can hit it out of anything – but just sayin’.

Baseball Fever....WPS!

by skcabrozar on May 25, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course the Cards’ 2,3, & 4 spots can hit it out of anything

…in theory

Albert Pujols is ridiculous.

by stlhulsey on May 25, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta add colby in to that mix in the 5 spot

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAC flies

What are our respective FB%? How many PAs has each team had with runners on?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd think we get more runners on, as we have the higher OBP

we also easily have the higher slugging %. they hit a couple percent more fly balls than we do (our hr/fb is 9.3 to their 7.1), and strike out more, and walk a little more.

so we have a higher team BA (we have identical BABIP’s), higher OBP, higher OPS, but score about the same amount of runs.

the OBP advantage could be negated by runners lost on the bases – i forget where that baserunning metric was, but i believe the padres were pretty high when we were 29th.

the image painted is certainly one of small-ball, such as a single, a stolen base, a sac bunt or hitting behind the runner, and a sac fly for a run.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw, our PA's were nearly identical per game played

i should have noted that alongside the obp discussion.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 26, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm surprised we have ANY sac flies

it seems to me that we always pop up to the IF or very shallow OF in every sac situation.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on May 25, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

In case you guys hadn't heard

Why yes, Steve Phillips would trade Strasburg to get Oswalt.

Now, it’s true tha, by rule, Strasburg can’t even be traded until August. But you can hardly expect Steve Phillips to know that kind of rule. It’s too obscure. Really the kind of thing only front-office guys would know.

by mojowo11 on May 25, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Steve Phillips is pretty much assuring himself a position permanently on the sideline

with statements like that. Even with a “win now” mentality, I don’t think Oswalt’s the guy for that unless you have an already solid pitching staff. I loved the line about him looking for a bigger outlet than AOLFanhouse, that was f’in classic.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's always Houston.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda kicking them while they're down, aren't ya?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone will always hire 'em.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oughta be illegal.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

KC would like this

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not really their fault

Dayton Moore was a hot commodity coming out of Atlanta. They were praised at the time for getting him

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would that be like walking in quicksand with stilts?

It’s still quicksand.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point was that it wasn't considered an awful decision, as Y2S was implying

It has turned out to be bad over the last 3 years, but at the time, it was generally lauded

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually I was implying

that such a law would protect markets like KC, in general. throughout their history.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misunderstanding on my part, then

My b

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a good point though

late reply because I was inspired to go look up some Posnanski

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember it as being a good idea at the time.

But as is the case with troubled franchises, once the tailspin starts it’s hard to get it stopped, and KC like Pitt has been in a tailspin for a long time. How much gets handed to the GM and how much gets handed to ownership? They are both responsible for the mess. That’s what I meant by my remark, is that even with a person with high expectations going into that situation, the prognosis isn’t really all that rosy.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's consistent

 a declining pitcher for an upcomer…hmm soudns familiar

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on May 25, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course he would

He traded Scott Kazmir for a shitty pitcher trying to “win now”.

He nearly traded David Wright for at least three different crappy hitting corner outfielders trying to “win now”.

He got booted off of ESPN for bunking up with a less than attractive female intern. No word on whether this was a “win now” proposition, but it’s certainly a lose-lose in the long term. You know, kinda like trading Strasburg for Oswalt would be.

Any time you offer a trade to the Astros for one of their franchise faces and Ed Wade would immediately accept that offer without thinking about it, you probably shouldn’t make that deal.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duquette made the Kazmir trade

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on May 25, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cardinals are right on top of that self-promotion!

look at them go!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry, haha. it just seemed backhanded.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

is the slump watchig becoming liek the Boiling pot?

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on May 25, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably

I’m shocked VEB hasn’t taken up the far more important task of mustache watching.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did notice carp was

beardish…and was wondering if it was coming back…. I just want to see wins..if they can win the central, not get swept in first round and see what happens im for it.

i rarely see it mentioned how many first or second “full year” guys this team has. And i mean by guys that arent riding the memphis train back and forth

This is ryans first year as the man right? I may struggle as i get going so help..
Skips second
Colbys first as the man
Motte second
Hawks-first full
Freeze-first
Jaime-frist

I think thats it, but thats a good chunk of guys…it doesnt explain the O or lack there of but to me goign from a platoon guy to now the stapel guy in a lineup is a leap. Alot of these guys have been shuffled alot, and now they are not. Skip may not apply to this list..

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on May 25, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip's been here forever

I think the O is mostly because everyone was trying to find their stroke — and have relied on Albert to carry April while they do so, for years. And this year, Albert and Matt. That didn’t happen, and other than Freese and Ludwick (who is naturally streaky), everything is destabilized.

The bench has been better than expected. AKA the Baby Bench. And technically the shuttle of mafiosos should be better this year. Last year they were the only club in the system that tasted the championship beer. Plus Mather and Stav have significant time in the majors previously.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i think that my main point is

i see 3 levels..

1, your a shuttle guy coming and going but have a role
2. your now a utility guy stable and not shuttle bound
3. you hold a position as the number one guy…

i think we can see all 3 levels on this team and my point is that some guys its there first full year at the 3 stage…

it’s flawed and I agree with your point, just a thought

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on May 25, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so many of the locked-in guys have had bench roles

that they teach the younger guys how to prepare on the bench. it’s not exactly an invisible role in a La Russa clubhouse. maybe a few years ago, it’d be more of a distraction, but it’s like a set play, so to speak.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah makes sense

i guess just with this conversation in mind i realized how many guys they have taking on newer roles…but skip doesnt really count…motte either i guess so then your just down to a few guys that are asked to be more than a platoon guy…which is where guys liek Frank,Ap Yadi help..

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on May 25, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

seems like this is the youngest team we've had in a long time

certainly in terms of mlb years if not age – our bench isn’t exactly grizzled vets (well, larue), and the bullpen is pretty raw outside franky and the loogy’s. jaime, razzums, and freeze are fairly new to the show

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're old rookies, though.

Colby is kind of the exception.

and, not that it necessarily projects to the field, there’s a huge chunk of them with kids.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ot - caught part of Airplane II

The scalper in the beginning is wearing the old, awesome Pirates cap.

I can’t figure out if it was a joke that Pirates scalpers had to move to the airport, or if I’m just in anachronism land and everybody scalped tickets to the Pirates.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm...that's a good question.

If Wikipedia is to be trusted, then the movie was made in 1982…which would’ve been only 3 years removed from the “We Are Family” Series win…and it appears that they didn’t have terrible records in the years in between…maybe it actually wasn’t a joke.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on May 25, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

How sweet would it be

if Jaime Garcia got an All-star nod and Heyward didn’t?

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on May 25, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

heyward more likely to be the lone rep of the braves

than jaime is of the cards, so that sways the odds a bit. plus, the kid is playing well – he’d be our top hitter if we had him right now.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I tend to hope Cardinal pitchers don't make it.

I just don’t want them throwing even an inning more than they have to, but I’m probably overly concerned about such things. With the media attention, I figured Heyward would have a higher vote total. With that .426 wOBA, I would hope that Heyward makes the NL squad.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on May 25, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Random: This is the_teague if anyone cares to know

For some reason I havent been able to log in over the past few days using my Yahoo id so I created a new account. Blah. Anyways, go cards.

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

breaking bad ref?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on May 25, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct.

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great show.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on May 25, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's called being banned...

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

SBNation would come up with an error saying they couldn't connect me

I would know if I were banned, I have been once on that name before.

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's sbn taking over

making people change their identities.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

so banned means you can’t come back as another screen name?

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, a ban is usually through the IP

but I dont know, I guess I wasn’t really banned, just suspended on that name awhile back. But like I said, I could still log in. Im gonna try logging in as the_teague again.

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, it let me log in. Thats awfully convenient SBN.

I’m going back to my Heisenberg name, I like it better.

'This is a hospital. People are sick!'
'This party's gonna be sick!'

by The_teague on May 25, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

farewell The_teague

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, I only like it better because its actually registered at SBN and I can log in with 1 step

with the_teague I had to hit Log in, Using Yahoo Id, Then I had to put it the password for it. Wait for it to authenticate and then hit ok.

With Heisenberg, I hit log in and voila! Im here.

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I sense some uncertainty in your post

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its like Im a schizophrenic with two identities....

One name will log on and ‘Good idea Tony, let the relief pitcher bat! Save the bench!’

while the other will log on and say ‘Tony, whats your effin problem? Pinch hit there, relief pitchers cant bunt!’

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you tried just logging in

through the login box with The_teague?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it doesnt work

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see anything in the mod screen

to indicate you’re banned.

Use the “contact us” at the bottom of the screen to get in touch with the higher SBN powers.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on May 25, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol!

Formerly known as The_teague. F'in SBN.

by Heisenberg on May 25, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

Someone understands

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

the uncertainty principle rocks

probably just as important as the theory of relativity. but it may prove to be even more important

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely OT....

But with all the talk about how bad Lohse’s contract is, I wonder if olPete, our favorite Untucker fan, would like to revisit his position on Randy Wolf right now.

Thank goodness we aren’t the only team that makes really stupid ass signings.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 25, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

God.

Kyle Lohse has a higher WAR than Randy Wolf.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on May 25, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of previously good pitchers seem to turn to shit in Milwaukee

maybe their highly-touted pitching coach actually isn’t very good.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

there's other guys who've had good or decent years, some talent, and then fell off the map, though

quite a lot of them, too. Guys like Dave Bush, Manny Parra. Wolf’s contract was appalling but he’s always been a pretty good pitcher in the past when fit. And what the hell happened to Hoffman?

I guess it’s a combination of bad front office and bad luck, mostly, but they seem to have had a LOT of pitchers fall off the face of the earth in recent years, and not get any of them back to any semblance of effectiveness. You have to wonder if better coaching might not’ve resurrected at least one or two of these careers.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Programming note

  Fox_Sports_MW Cardinal programming starting at 7, we count down the top moments of the 80’s and playoffs last decade, then Cards Classics, and the pregame 20 minutes ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

such timing!

my #50 BP jersey came today!

he starts tonight, right?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Tonights Lineup via FSNMW tweet

Lopez SS
Ludwick RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Rasmus CF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Schumaker 2B
Wainwright SP

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on May 25, 2010 6:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

you know off-hand who's pitching for pads?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jonny G!

Garland…clearly better than Peavy ever was…

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by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinda pleased that we get to avoid Latos...

…even though I’d love to watch him pitch again.

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by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same :P.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on May 25, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's pretty good

but I should reiterate my opinion, that I’d rather see Lopez at second, and Boog playing and batting 9th

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh

I suppose that it’s pretty much a wash right now. but you could also say that Boog has been batting better too, and the combination of better defense at two positions outweighs the marginally better offense of skip vs boog. hope he kicks ass tonight though

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both are negatives.

Skip’s bat is -5.5 WAR. Brendan’s defense is -9.9.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way that's right

RAR, maybe?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

That’s WAR before positional adjustment.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah,

you’re looking at fangraphs. that’s runs

unless you think albert is worth 11.1 WAR so far this year with the bat alone.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

and HFS

72.1 WAR with the bat last year

the man is ridiculous, but come on

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

that huge chunk of errorboat killed everybody

Albert had a day like that too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think errors tend to come in bunches when they come

particularly for good fielders – i remember albert starting out last year with 5 or 6 pretty quickly, and then didn’t he have two in the same inning the other day after coming into the game with zero? rolen, iirc, made 3 in an inning once.

anyway, it’s not like boog’s defensive skills have declined, where he’s lost range or anything. he had a bad run of errors likely affected by his struggles at the plate.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you not read the comment

Lopez’s value at second base is better defensively than Skip’s, historically speaking. when you couple that with Boog being twice as good at short than Felipe is, that’s a big difference.

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goold on FESPN

putting out Straussie’s fires.

Go Derrick!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

"He and Matt recognize that the lineup tends to go where they take it."

Quoting Tony: Those things happen in the dugout once or twice a week.

More a reflection of the offense’s struggles, etc. Tony more upset that it was overblown reported than the actual thing. Basically Goold=unicorn.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's in the dugout that knows and relates precisely the words spoken?

you had to be right there to hear tony say “that’s enough” – that admonishment cracks me up after pujols dumps the bubble gum.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

they just need the spray bottle of water.

keeps them out of the candy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool.....I still can't find any listings for just the bearing....

are there any numbers on the bearing itself, either the old or new one that I could try to cross for you?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever....it's a 10 o'clock start here... And that sucks

But I don’t usually go to bed ’til 4, soooo whatever.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than a day game.....

The scrubs and their Friday day game can suck it, btw.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

completely agree

i’m sure they’re a treat to go to, but having to listen to the game on the radio and not having a game to watch when i get home that night sucks.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda like them

I need to do some spring cleaning tonight

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Solution

Move to the west coast!

by mojowo11 on May 25, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuckin' Cubs fans....
Saw on SportsCenter that Pujols is struggling…wonder if he got busted with steroids or somethin. Griffey and Albert are the only big power hitters to have not been caught yet. Don’t get me wrong though, I think steroids need to come back. Makes baseball a hell of a lot more exciting

I’m unaware that a .303 average is “struggling”…also the fact that he’s swinging at 7% more pitches outta the zone than he’s ever swung at before….

God, I fucking hate ESPN.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Pujols has been struggling the last few weeks.

His average was up at .340 just a little while ago.

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

But as far as the season goes, he's still significantly better than he was in 2004...

…Only battin 279 on May 25, ’04

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

according to the numbers bernie posted

pujols has slugged .551 since last july 18, and .631 in his career before that (which should be noted also included some dry spells). and since sept. 11 of last year he’s averaging one dinger every 30 ab’s – so it’s not just the month of may 2010 we’re talking about.

so that probably means he goes 4-5 with a couple dingers tonite, right???

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched Blanks all last season (until caled late) in Portland

He’s go the goods and is ginormous

Are you NOT entertained!?!? -Maximus

by c2c75 on May 25, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Truth. Got to see him here in Fort Wayne for a bit...

…kid was special.

Got high hopes for some of the other people who’ve rolled thru here….i.e. Jaff Decker, Luis Durango, Cedric Hunter, et al.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He sure is...

…don’t have to worry bout Blanks this series, though, since he’s still sittin on the DL, yes?

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know they just called up go-go durango

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, Luis?!

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woooo!!! He was in Fort Wayne 2 years ago!! Hahaha!

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by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

was reading their site

they called him go-go durango – pretty good name, and i take it he’s fast as hell?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speedy dude...

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: cell phone convo yesterday

called sprint and it’s an extra $30 for hot spot functionality on the phone

good thing android is rooted pretty much the minute a new update is released

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

one the EVO*

which there is a 90% chance of me getting by now

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you go through RadioShack they do instant rebates instead of mail-in.

And if you pre-order (by buying a $50 gift card) they give a $20 accessories card when you buy the phone. Free $20 towards a case or a charger or whatever.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

do i have to have a sprint contract?

i don’t see how radio shack benefits from selling the phone at half price

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

They get the sale.

They’re authorized retailers for Sprint and everyone else. Anyway, the rebate is either Sprint’s or HTC’s, but it’s done instantly at Radio Shack and it’s mail-in through Sprint.

2-year contracts subsidize the cost of the phone.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

didn’t realize i could sign a sprint contract at radio shack

thanks for the heads up

are you picking yours up at the store or do you have to wait for it to be shipped?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm picking mine up at Radio Shack on June 4th.

I’m not sure how the pre-ordering will work without a current contract, but they will find a way to get the sale at their store. If you pre-order, you’re guaranteed a phone. If you don’t, you may have to wait awhile. But maybe not. It is an Android device, and not everyone wants those.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Sprint is making a concerted effort not to screw this up.

When the BlackBerry 8330 hit Sprint in 2008, there were serious shortages. I don’t know how they didn’t expect the most popluar BlackBerry to be in demand… Hopefully they’ve upped their game since then.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i called sprint

and maybe the dude was just trying to get me to buy the phone (even though i pretty much told him i was gonna) but he said they were expecting a pretty high demand and a sell out

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't be surprised if they do sell out in the short term.

Scarcity is a powerful selling device.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was $30.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i said

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yesterday I thought it was $30. Fourstick said it was covered by the $10.

I wasn’t correcting you, silly.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, right

i thought what he was saying seemed pretty unrealistic

nothing a good software cracking can’t fix anyway

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just re-checked with my source at Sprint

He’s still saying it’s $10 — for friends and family members. Of which I am one.

I guess it’s $30 for regular subscribers. Sorry for the misinformation, I thought it was $10 for everyone.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on May 26, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

:|

Awesome.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 26, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know

it’s also a 3g network with shitty service and vastly inferior (as of now) hardware

i imagine it’s not hard to crack the android OS and tether for free also

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody know where we can find out jersey numbers of former obscure Cardinals players??

Who wore #5 before Pujols?

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

............

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never realized how big he was

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah that's a whole lot of Ron Gant...

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

More Gant than should be legal.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

not very gaunt, is he?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good Grief!

What’s with the giant-assed pics today?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Ron’s ass doesn’t look THAT big.

by mojowo11 on May 25, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swing and a miss?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh oh...

upheaval with Pujols’ agent:

http://twitter.com/jcrasnick/status/14725034912

This is step 1 on his march toward Scott Boras and an eventual parting of the ways with the Cards…

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh noes! Busch Stadium is sponsored by Anheuser-Busch...and they were bought by InBev...

I heard they’re moving the stadium to Belgium!!! NOOOOOOOO!

/stupidity.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

F'in Poirot!

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would take a logistical genius to pull that off.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

DHL??

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

I hate to admit it, but you lost me.lol

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Logistics/shipping company founded in Germany, I think?

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh shit.

Sorry man, I’m out here in the sticks. Didn’t even think of that.

By the way, I have a pic that I thought you could use as a good photoshop for azru. I was flipping thru my album collection and came across Queen’s News of the World album and thought that would be an awsome pic for him.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatcha want me to do to it??

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought if you wanted to use the idea sometime, I'd give you the idea.

I’m no earthly good with that shit the way you guys are.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not an idea man...

…i simply convey other people’s ideas into a finished product.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahha.

I just thought it would be a neat thing to throw out there during one of those times when he’s laying down the robot law on somebody.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the pretext...

Pujols needs to move to Boras. I can hear the pitch now. Look what I accomplished with Kyle! Look what I got for Matt! Mo and I know how to get things done!

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

who represents Felipe?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

beverly hills innit?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

or is it Lozano?

This is what I’m seeing right now:

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, sorry

I’m asking who exactly. since this is Pujols’ specific agent, not just the group.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Pujols switches to Boras I will eat my hat

and it kind of is starting to look like a Steve Kline hat, so that’s no idle bet

David Freese, LOBster killer

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 25, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

if Pujols switches to Boras and it was Matty's idea

someone’s head will be in trouble.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

with pujols as his client and a big deal looming

how do we know he’s not taking albert with him and starting his own shop – hell, it could even mean a deal is closer than we think and he’s got some hard figures on his commission that he’s comfortable with to branch out on his own.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

either way, it's terrible timing for Albert

unless he turns it around shortly, that’s more pressure on him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just never think of pujols feeling pressure

i mean, to the extent that it’s a big situation and you feel it and the adrenaline’s pumping, of course, but that makes you perform better if you use it, which he apparently does. but i just don’t see him off the field thinking about it and wringing his hands thinking he’s playing for a big contract – i can’t picture that apu.

hey, maybe the contract is all but signed and the agent had to leave so he gets all the commission himself. not sure how that works – maybe there’s some time-frame within which he can’t sign.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

red sox at rays open (mini)thread

2 hours till cards, so let’s watch everyone’s (my) favorite AL team!

crawfors just struck out looking at a pitch that was a foot inside. c’mon, blue

at least we know they’re doing the shit in the lesser league, too

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

bandwagon

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

your point?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tampa is the ultimate bandwagon team...

young, exciting, speedy… if I were a Tampa fan I’d stop rooting for them just to avoid the bandwagoneers.

Tis better to lose bunting than win with dingers alone...

by guayzimi on May 25, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

for sure

i’m not denying it

but it’s not like i’m ditching the cards for them. this is like the third rays game i’ve watched. really, i’m just trying to appear like i’m half-assed keeping up with the AL

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

how quickly we forget, too

that VEB followed the Rays postseason run with great interest. it was entertaining.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And even with all the bandwagoners, can't sell out the Trop.

Need to move the team to Tampa or somewhere not in Oldpeoplesville(St. Pete).

by jackhammerslam on May 25, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

ASUTIN!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good luck with that.

Love, Uncle Drayton.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

gesundheit.

Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.

by Felonius_Monk on May 26, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

i want to watch baseball and my team isn't playing

i’m not gonna go watch royals @ orioles

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not baseball.

That’s a comedy of errors.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a tragedy.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's so sad it's laughable?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

watching the Top Ten moments in 2000s playoffs

mmmmm lidged.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

NLCS 06

 that last game was like The Making of Adam Wainwright. That expression is the same. That nastyness is the same.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

and now the 1980s!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so who showed Yadi the footage of Glen Brummer stealing home...?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did almost steal home last year

but there wasn’t a good opportunity, that time.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaaahhh Secret Weapon footage

Brendan Ryan is more filled in than Jose was then.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that.

I had completely forgotten about Brummer tho.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I knew the name and the deed

I’d never seen it or him.

Willie McGee!! Ah childhood.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I vaguely remember the deed.

They will never take my memories. Even though they may not have been as good as I thought, I just don’t give a damn.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still shaking my head over the previous top ten

Tyler Johnson was going to come in if Waino had botched the 9th.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where did Johnson end up?

I lost track of him.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

hang on... they're rerunning Cards Classics.

and I am, for some reason, trying to find a picture of a beer fermenter.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

last seen with the Mariners

still processing… processing…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a frickin prospect by the same name

he’s disappeared.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wiki says a free agent

Link

Sounds like an Indy League candidate

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

That’s too bad. He appeared to have a shot at being good.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's not in the Atlantic League

But Jason Simontacchi is…

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Didn’t think I’d ever see that name as active again.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

never really recovered from the injury, unfortunately

after missing all of 2008, the m’s gave him kind of a rehab go last year in the minors before cutting him loose around mid-season

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

a 2006 Memphis scorecard from Leach

part of it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

wow.

How are all these players on our current Major League team from our system and yet only one of them were in memphis in 2006.

by Evilfrog on May 25, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

because 2005.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Dudes and Dudettes

Scotland is awesome

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on May 25, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I haven't seen Buzz in weeks,

but I imagine that’ll draw him out.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

refresh my memory

who’s buzz?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on May 25, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

toy story character

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny guy

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on May 25, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

you asked.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

BuzzKillington.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I see why that would draw him up, lol

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on May 25, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

so

i haven’t had a lunchable in over a month now. and have actually eaten quite healthy 4-5 days per week.

/yes, i brought it up again
/yes, you obviously want non-baseball updates on my life, so don’t act otherwise

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

My kids experienced them for the first time last weekend

They’ll happily take up your slack.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure they will

i would have lunchables and ted drewes every day if i was 12 years old and under.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just eat a fuckin' Lunchables and get it over with

Turkey, cheese, and crackers. Boosh!

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

off them for an indefinite amount of time.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quitter.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on May 25, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're actually not bad,

if you’re starving and needing to eat something fast. Of course, I’d eat the ass out of a dead rhino if I’m hungry enough.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 25, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

trying

weird shit is going on with my wireless network right now

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

or maybe my ps3

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did not

is it just that i can nonw buy HBO shows in the PS3 store?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's calling strikes 6 inches off the plate.

Lester has K’d 3 guys off of those calls, Rays broadcast is showing overhead views, these balls aren’t ANYWHERE near the plate. Just ejected Crawford and Maddon.

by jackhammerslam on May 25, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

are the umpires league specific

or do these chumps umpire in the NL, too?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't believe

that they are league specific anymore.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on May 25, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is correct.

ever since the umpires pulled their shit several years ago they haven’t been league specific anymore.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 25, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh. Matthew is going to be introduced to the rivalry in Wrigley soon...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

no cubs second half last year?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

not in Wrigley.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on May 25, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, right

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on May 25, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was right at the top of wOBA leaderboard for catchers

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

aren't we playing for first tonite then?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either way we're in first.

But by winning, we’re alone in first.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 25, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i don't like to share

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 25, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 26, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

but next game’s another opportunity

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 26, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's why they call it baseball

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it isn't.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on May 26, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're disputing a shannonism?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on May 26, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gamethread

In a land far, far away

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on May 25, 2010 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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