Game 38 - St. Louis @ Cincinnati
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| Brad Penny | Bronson Arroyo |
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1.70 ERA |
5.36 ERA |
| 3.13 FIP |
4.47 FIP |
| 3.06 tERA | 4.40 tERA |
I don't have a lot to say about last night's game. I was out of pocket for most of it but did watch the tragic ending of what seemed like a very bad decision to send the runner home. An aggressive third base coach is probably better than a passive one, within reasonable limts, but a strong throw from LF and a strong relay from the SS had the ball to the catcher when Schumaker was only 2/3 of the way there. The play was closer than it could have been due to a high tag by the catcher but, tragically, the Cardinals' night ended on a play at the plate.
After watching the Cardinals flail in an unbecoming fashion at the plate during the dismal three games know as the Astros series, it strikes me that eventually, Cardinals fans, who like all fans enjoy placing blame, may be hard pressed to deal with the dueling feelings of goodwill toward a nostalgic idea of Mark McGwire and the reality of Mark McGwire, batting coach. (I'm relatively certain you've now encountered a comma splice. My day is complete.) When the hitting coach was a more nebulous name, say. . . Hal McRae, it was easy to criticize when the offense sputtered. McRae certainly exacerbated that criticism at times with talk of being "aggressive" but one has to wonder how much of an impact hitting coaches really have on hitters.
So when the offense fails to coalesce and fans look at the new hitting coach, will they find themselves with conflicting emotions criticizing a legend that they loved during his St. Louis tenure as a hitter? The answer, to me, is yes and it's likely to buy McGwire an extra long leash for the duration of his time here. In any event, I'm curious what hitters are doing well this year under McGwire's tutelage. While this is a very superficial look, let's take a glance at what computers predicted players to do prior to the season and what they've done to date. You'll find their ZiPS pre-season wOBA projection followed by their wOBA 2010 to-date.
| Albert Pujols | 0.461 | 0.411 | -0.050 |
| Skip Schumaker | 0.338 | 0.268 | -0.070 |
| Brendan Ryan | 0.313 | 0.214 | -0.099 |
| David Freese | 0.333 | 0.384 | 0.051 |
| Yadier Molina | 0.332 | 0.32 | -0.012 |
| Ryan Ludwick | 0.372 | 0.374 | 0.002 |
| Colby Rasmus | 0.328 | 0.398 | 0.070 |
| Matt Holliday | 0.399 | 0.358 | -0.041 |
There are some pretty glaringly horrific numbers in there. Brendan Ryan has been an unmitigated disaster offensively performing well below projections. Skip Schumaker has likewise been experiencing a dismal offensive outing. I'm less inclined to lay even superficial subjective blame at McGwire's feet for veterans like Pujols and Holliday. Colby Rasmus and McGwire's philosophy have to be seen as a huge boon for the new hitting coach. If Skip and Brendan are significant minuses, Rasmus has to be seen as a real plus.
The team is predominantly underperforming their preseason predictions in glaring ways. It's a striking dichotomy of significant underperformance and significant overperformance. Frustrating as this may be, the Cardinals do maintain the, albeit slim and diminishing, lead in the NL Central. I like McGwire in a reverent 1998 kind of way. I think he's a dramatic improvement as a hitting coach. As long as the offense sputters though, he runs the risk of increased scrutiny.
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Even looking at some of the struggles the team has had in the last week, I'm struck by how few changes I would make given control of the team. Perhaps I'd give more time to Tyler Greene at SS and Felipe Lopez would almost certainly play a predominant role at second upon his return, but otherwise this team still seems like the best team we could be fielding right now.
The starting rotation continues to be our saving grace and the bullpen has, thus far, avoided disastrous outings, on balance. It's still a very good team. It just doesn't seem like a very good team right now. The old adage "You're never as bad as you look when you're losing and you're never as good as you look when you're winning" seems appropriate after the string of recent games the Cardinals have had.
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2010: 21-16
2005: 24-13
C'mon guys, you're losing pace. Enjoy your day baseball game everyone. Apologies for the delayed post.
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Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i asked anyone willing to answer
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
not sure why yadi2 couldn’t have said this
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe he thought you can come up with it the same way i did
search
although his spants hint was what broke the case
i still don’t get it
but it’s funny
because I didn't remember it, smart guy
and spants just commented in the other thread, so she’s around.
on top of it, it’s gone through some permutations, and whatever I remember is probably wrong. be cool like d-dee and conduct a search yourself.
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by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
not sure i believe that
but basically i don’t care enough to conduct myself a search
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
When he pitches he makes a Beaker face.
Very frowny in an exaggerated way. He looks like a muppet.
You can read it in any tone you like.
This team is underperforming
The Cardinals should be getting more hits and men on the bases and scoring more runs.
This is a team that is not playing up to it’s talent level due to poor hitting and too many strikeouts. You cannot win in baseball if you don’t score more runs than your opponents, and unfortunately that is what is happening at this time. Mark McGwire as hitting coach has turned out to be a poor choice. McGwire is a man who always swung for the fences, and that’s the philosophy he is deploying with the Cards…..which is why they are striking out way too much. The Cardinals are making mediocre opposing pitchers look like hall of famers. To win in baseball you have to get men on base, move runners along, and drive at least some of them in, but this isn’t happening. Get rid of McGwire and get a hitting coach that believes in putting the bat on the ball and putting it in play. Another move right now that might help would be to take Lohse out of the rotation and put him in the bullpen in hopes he will find himself. Put
McClellan in the starting rotation in place of Lohse….Lohse is getting paid over 9 million a year
and he isn’t worth it. I can see this team faltering badly if changes are not made, especially with respect to getting hits and scoring runs instead of swinging for the fences.
Cards Talk?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on May 16, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stuff
1. Lohse isn’t that bad. FIP supports this. Everyone knows he isn’t worth 10mil, but he’s still a decent starter.
2. Cardinals hitter haven’t all been terrible, just unlucky.
3. What are you replying to?
xFIP does not support the claim you're making with #1
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
doesn't xFIP assume that he gives up league HR rate
i think that’s a bit unfair right now… whose to say when he gives up league average, he will continue to give up runs at the pace he is not counting homers…..s
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 16, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i still don't think xFIP is where he should be right now
but that definitely clears it up a little
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 16, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
this deserves this

Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 16, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Since felonious isn't here, I'm going to channel a Briton and type:
Flagged! Politics!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
McClellan in the rotation is a bad idea
Lohse would do much better
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
someone noted
there was also that detail of IBB’ing Gomes. aka the winning run.
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there's Penny... wearing his Affliction tee
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trufax
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VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think baseball players, in general, lack taste.
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VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
thank god for the uniforms
otherwise, imagine the field if they could wear anything they wanted
aaaaaa
shirtless, the grit would get in there better
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there should be some control over it though
shirtless? skip – yes, adam – yes, carp – yes, boog – yes; dennys – noooo, older than 45 – no; larue – no; cc sabathia – oh hell no
your suggestion is intriguing yet disturbing
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I was baiting
but it’s okay. carry on fleshing out the idea
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If any of those guys went shirtless, there would be people passing out in the stands
just for different reasons.
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VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
those mascots do love them some Cat
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this was some in-depth interview with Jason LaRue
is he like their go-to guy? the sage veteran?
yikes.
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by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Cat, they need three mascots in Cincy
because they all suck, but they’re trying to make it up with volume.
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VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions
It's a shame they can't / won't wear those '47 unis again today.
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VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions
being baseball players, they'd probably say it's bad luck.
sigh.
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Espn does.
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/photos?gameId=300515117&photoId=630706
You can read it in any tone you like.
that is one badass uniform
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i liked them…they were like a braves version for the cardinals
by guillermozeliak on May 16, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
new improved lineup! not just names but pictures
calm yourselves… they used the long panning shot of Skip wearing the socks high (while adjusting gloves, of course).
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i was wondering why no one would talk to me
turns out i was in the boog swing thread
/blush
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
let's see if those balls are rubbed!
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I don't get...
how anyone could say Skip should’ve been sent… The throw home sucked and he was still out by a lot.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Conventional baseball wisdom of forcing the defense to make the perfect play.
I find that wisdom most effective when not at the MLB level. Those “perfect” plays are far more likely to happen at this level. To me, you’re playing for the tie, not the win. You don’t send him and you have two runners in scoring position and a chance to play for the win in the next PA. By Colby Rasmus.
Also, they probably don’t want to throw Jose under the bus.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on May 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd go with Boggs in that situation...
It wasn’t even a perfect play. The shortstop almost screwed it up, and he was still out by a lot.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
You're right.
And the catcher almost made a late tag. But I think the opinion that it was a bad decision is solid. Skip wasn’t anywhere near the plate when Hernandez made that catch.
You can read it in any tone you like.
this is one awesome picture
thanks spants
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/photos?gameId=300515117&photoId=630901
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
They have to bust out of this funk, right?
What’s our BABIP in the last few weeks? Like .150?
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
holy shit JAY2SECOND
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Also, Bronson Arroyo is really irritating.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:13 PM EDT reply actions
Jay learns the first base open lesson
hahaa
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Boooooooo.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
You sir,
Are a prophet. Is this the end of zombie Holliday?
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, Hollidome, this is why you're here.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions
IBB in the first...
Albert’s slash line would really be in the tank if it weren’t for all these dumb managers.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Joe West is at home plate, btw.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This is ridiculous
How does an entire team go into a hitting slump?
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions
I mean, 1-2 players sure
But an entire team?
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
easy mistake
Ryan Ludwick is borderline superhuman
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yeah, but he's not playing today, now is he?
He seems to be the only guy hitting at the moment.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
thrown out at home
Skip singled to score Freese in the 9th inning of last nights game. Last time the Cardinals had a hit with RISP
it's baseball
it happens a lot more than we like to think, to good teams
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high socks alert
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Jay is trying to acclimate to the usual RFL
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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Good god.
I had a BAAAAADDD feeling about this game.
Prove me wrong, guys!
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
I know I know
Small sample size and all that but geez, can Holliday ever get a hit with men on base.
The Lohse and Holliday deals may be the end of Captain Mo.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
So you are happy with Holliday's performance?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
O-Cab tags up
Jay tries to spin to increase his range
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm afraid to answer either way
hard to know, but i’m not liking the start
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
it's discouraging when a prophet asks
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kinda ot (but cardinals related)
i’m surprised that the team didn’t issue a different number to jay, since holliday decided to go for a new number and 15, to most fans, is still jim edmonds.
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
There was an article about this in the Globe-Democrat, the new online newspaper.
I’d suggest going to read it. LINK
You can read it in any tone you like.
that was a good article
I keep forgetting to fanshot it, it was interesting
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i agree
you’d have a righty in rolen come up and with the set up for a dp.
/justthrowball4
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
ugh.
i played a mock of this game on mlb 10 the show and rolen hit 3 hr’s. hope that wasn’t a sign
/f’nzoomzoom
/unintendedjinx
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
All the IBBs for AP in low leverage situations
is proof that professional baseball men, who know a lot more about the game than we ever will, simply do not fear Holliday.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
they will...
he started very slowly last year as well
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
Greene makes a Oh hi Boog
Freese ducks, Holliday gets over there
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I don't think Penny's hitting his spots at all.
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all fastballs, all up
scott caught up to one
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
Jay is busy out there.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
is this first person shooter
or frames per second
also, what?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
this is all too familiar
and, to be honest, it really f’n sucks.
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
If we lose 4-3 again...
I might have to stop shaving / bathing awhile.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
It's like they say in soccer.
What is missed in one goal, will soon be scored in the other goal. In other words, when you miss execute, the other team will execute right in your face. IN YOUR FACE
I want the Walrus back...
Better than last place in May
/looks in Chicago’s direction
by jd is legend on May 16, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You know, I don't mind losing first place
But I DO mind losing it to Bronson Arroyo. I pretty much hate everything about him.
by cloistermaximus on May 16, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions
just like losing to teams
we shouldn’t lose to
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
EVERYTHING about the last two weeks is getting really old.
Jesus, it’s like Groundhog DAY every day since the first game of the Phillies series.
LOBs, two-out rallies, bad defense, throwing errors, Albert striking out, Holliday ground-outs and hanging curveballs.
OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
the team got phucked.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
an all too familiar
MOAR RUNZ
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
BE MOAR SPECIFIC.
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sorry
MOAR RUNZ CARDS
(but by now, shouldn’t you know who i mean that for? after all, i’m on the CARDINALS blog and i am a CARDS fan)
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
I know
you know
we all know
the GOB will laugh at all of us
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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they have been
for the last two weeks
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
don't encourage them
they’re bastards
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
not encouraging
just sayin
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
the concept is not being specific = encouraging the bastards
is all.
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this really is 4chan
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ok....
ten run sunday!!!!
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
yeah
but that’s how the team’s been playing lately. so, it’s understandable but sad.
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
You know, eventually it would happen
Our starters would start being real and not videogame-like. This would be okay if our offense helped win ballgames. But they don’t. So, good (not perfect) pitching and no run support equals loss of first place
I want the Walrus back...
Well, you are right
but it just seems like an all-too predictable recurrent pattern.
I want the Walrus back...
as do the comments about how it is.....
(in general)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At the same time...
I have no doubt they’ll come around and run away from the division. They’re too good and too passionate not to. It just sucks right now.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions
When Holliday eventually comes around, that will help a ton.
I think his absolute incompetence with RISP has been the main factor of the offenses’ suckitude so far.
The whole team will come around.
I’m calling it now: Albert is going to go apeshit in June. .390, 14HRs and so on.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree he will eventually come around, but I disagree that his struggles thus far have been bad luck.
His AB’s with RISP have been absolutely horrible. Almost every single one ends with a K or a very weakly hit grounder to short or third. He hasn’t been squaring the ball at all .
no.
his K rate is the same as it is with RISP as it is with RISP. And he has a much higher walk rate with RISP
Look up LD% with RISP if you can, I'm not sure where to find it. I bet it is extremely low.
And his walk rate may be better with RISP, but he definitely is not hitting the ball well at all. Thats not bad luck.
don't know where to look
I know of several liners that have found gloves. You just remember the popups and Ground balls because those suck more.
Schuwalker
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runner on 1st
the familiarity kicking in once again.
/hopefullynot
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
that's why.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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HAHAHAHA
Mike just said that the Reds are making Dusty Baker look like a genius.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions
I'm convinced
When Al needs to go to the pisser, they play the same pre-recorded “McGwire is amazed that everyone is a guess hitter now” rambling bullshit.
Not afraid to nitpick
oh come on.
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
run faster, Brad
though he had no chance, bunted too hard
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wow.
That sucked.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions
Not he's winded and will go straight to the mound...
we were looking awesome at 18-8.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
that at-bat was a micrcosm of the cards problems
at least 2 of the 3 pitches were balls, yet he lunged at each one
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
HE WAS SAFE
BASTARDRY
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was he safe? did I just see that?
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The Cardinals are freaking insane
I was looking at a family trip to Busch this year and these ticket prices are sickening. Good God, they better not ever cry poor again. How long have then been this outrageous?
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions
I picked up four bleacher seats for a June game on Stubhub.
$70 total after all the service charges. Not too bad…
But not as great as $7 tickets and such as I remember getting in the 90s. Of course, this team is better (not right now though…)
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
huh?
unless you want to be in the commissioner’s box or in the green seats, the prices are okay
they also have a lot of promotions so i personally can’t complain
Baseline seats at PNC Park are $26.
Baseline seats at Busch stadium, the exact same seats are $82.
That’s insane.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
difference there
pirates stink, cards don’t. hard to get someone to pay $82 for a pirates ticket – wouldn’t be worth that much $
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@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
I'm okay with high ticket prices...
So long as it translates into the onfield product.
Otherwise…no.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't really go that way
This is a business, they charge what will profit maximize. The on field product dictates what they can charge, not the other way around.
Not afraid to nitpick
That makes sense.
I guess I don’t think about it since I get to one game at Busch every five years or so.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Check the Phillies prices
interleague tickets the same day are only $55 for the same seats.
I had no idea that Busch was so expensive.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO that just means the Phillies as a business aren't being run very efficiently...
Not afraid to nitpick
Red Sox baseline boxes down RF line
$52. Still $30 less than Cardinals.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
So what?
The Cardinals sell tickets at the prices they charge. They aren’t in this for the charity of the city no matter what they said to get their municipal bonds. People will pay the $$$, so they’ll charge it. Maybe Boston should increase their prices to better reflect the value people put on those tickets.
Not afraid to nitpick
Maybe they should
I think the Cardinals should raise those tickets to $205. I mean, why not, right?
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Well except that people wouldn't pay for that
People pay for the tickets at the prices they charge but don’t jump head over heels to do it…..if that’s not a sign that they are charging the “right” price then I don’t know what is.
Not afraid to nitpick
Cardinals almost always have promotions going
I never pay face value. Email Flimtotheflam@gmail and ask about discount codes, some of the McDonald’s ones may be left and otherwise he should be able to direct you to some
not only the mcdonalds ones
there’s half price for certain series, the 7 or 10 game packages, the 550 am tickets, the win so many in a row, get so much of a discount…
i sat in the dugout box on thursday for 30 bucks.
i mean come on
email from stlcardinals.com
last minute promotion on leftover tickets
we lost but the seat was just heaven
I want a refund
for misappropriation of revenue to the Holliday fund. I was told that a bake sale would be paying for that.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd expect that from the Yankees
They have a revenue source of 8 M people. I haven’t been to Busch III except in the playoffs. I had no idea how high ticket prices were.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
well in a small market
with a high payroll
what else are you going to do?
last i heard dewitt wasn’t digging money in his back yard
i’m fine with the prices
How is it that there is such a chasm between what Mac is preaching and what we are seeing on the field?
I just don’t get how it is that their pitch recognition is that bad.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions
they are trying too hard
guessing pitches rather than reading and reacting
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
BINGO
These things go on for long enough that they just start trying way too hard
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Somebody stop them already.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No hay que preocuparse
tenemos Colby para el leadoff en el proximo inning.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
LOL
you kinda mixed English there with spanish. Let me give you a hand:
Tenemos a Colby como primer bat en la próxima entrada.
I want the Walrus back...
asi hablamos en mi familia.
usando una mezcla de ingles y espanol
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
look what y'all started
the Reds broadcasters are speaking spanish now.
by longhornscardinals on May 16, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
ademas, si pongo un poco de ingles, sera mas facil para que entienden los demas
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i think the cards
should try the mustache rally again.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Watching the Braves-Diamondbacks game
The Braves’ organist played “Uptown Girl” when Justin Upton came to the plate. Get it? Upton? Like Uptown?
no, i don't get it
/smartass
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Because Justin Upton is a Billy Joel fan?
Amidoinitrite?
by Ferociousaurus on May 16, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
c'mon cards
get the offense to spark!
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Penny's lack of run support
is, IN PART, because he is in the line-up when he pitches (not just that last atrocious AB)
I'm always wary of those who legislate from the bench
by jd is legend on May 16, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
estoy de acuerdo
pero Allen Craig no esta haciendo nada especial en AAA. Tiene su OPS a 622…
:(
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
three pitch K
WTF is up with our offense????
/iwantmcraeback
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
...
I would love to get some offense from the SS any position
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
If this goes to form,
we will somehow get a man on second w/ two outs, they’ll walk Albert, and Holliday will K/ground out weakly to short.
warning track power
the GOBs hate us.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Can this team catch a break?
What the hell did we do to piss off the GOBs?
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions
hollidaisy broke the big mac land sign
that has to mean something
Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 16, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Rooney is slick
“that’s too low to call a strike”. translation: the ump is giving Arroyo a wide strike zone.
Dan and Al were awesome last night
after about the third inning, they didn’t even talk around the fact that the umpire was completely incompetent.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
This team isn't even fun to watch anymore.
Its just bad break after bad break wrapped in some frustration.
Is this team ever going to fucking hit?
Bronson Arroyo, as usual, sucks.
Bronson Arroyo, as usual, is having his way with the Cardinals.
It has become a chore to watch this team.
hmm...
I would’ve thought we’d had even more success. Seems like he’s always getting crushed by Pujols.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
so don't watch
and sorry, I don’t mean to single you out, but its getting very old and annoying when people come on these threads just to complain.
When the team is doing things worthy of praise, they get praise.
You can’t be surprised people complain when the team has been this awful for a while. People have passion, and they get frustrated.
Like he said, "when people come on these threads just to complain."
Just. There are people that never comment when things are going well.
You can read it in any tone you like.
can Rooney re-cap that last play from last night
at least ONE more time. I’m not sure I got the picture yet
if ryan considers to scrape,
and T greene is nto lighting it up behind him, are any of the guys at AAA considered to be brought up to spell Ryan and send greene down?
Maybe Gotay or delasco? again just as a backup role. Even bringing back Lopez is not the whole answer, cause you need a bench that can hit. so far i think i’d stick with Jay and Stav on the bench.
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
soooooo Boog would've gotten that, huh
/obligatory
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nobody's throwing out phillips though
Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 16, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope TG is sufficiently embarrassed after that.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
I really, really thought Tea Greene was better than that
since ST it’s been inexplicable
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Brad penny
getting no love…where are the flat bill consirators now?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
i hate to say it
especialy in the 3rd, but this game is OVER.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Sigh...
I’d rather mow my weed infested lawn than take it from the gobs…
I’m out…
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
defense, offense....
a little bit of everything would be nice, don’tchathink?
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
If he'd gotten in front of it, it would've hit him in the chest.
Instead he tried to OLE’ it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it's amazing friday night in the 3rd people were like it's fixed...
eh hem
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
the games not over
but it’s not looking good..they still are not hitting…
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
2 DPs in the first 2 innings turned against the cards
is enough to convince me the lousy streak is far from over
yeah
i was cautious friday, and was called “negative”
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
hey, some good news
penny k’s somebody.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
OK, so I'm stuck on gameday
how in the world does someone go first to third on a ball fielded by the second baseman?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
i'm at work
gotta keep it low tech.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
good point
ah well, i tried.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
The plan is to wear them out by making them run the bases.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions
ahhh the dusty baker school of thought
Master of Typos
by YesWeOquendo on May 16, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
if we lose today
i might have to take a break from the Cardinals. this is just too damn frustrating.
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
i'll join you
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Frustrating is a good way to put it
After every ugly loss (like today’s), I think, I can’t take any more. But then I’m right back the next night, watching and rooting just the same.
by jd is legend on May 16, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
root for the laundry
hope for the high socks
and plan for the grit
that’s all we can do
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's beautiful
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
If I hear anything about unrubbed baseballs after this series...
I might scream. Just play ball guys…
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions
haven't been watching
Did Penny or LaRue or anyone say/act that something’s wrong with the balls again? Especially since Arroyo is pitching?
lotta runz cards
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
The funny thing is
That if Penny was getting the breaks, everyone would be marveling at how good he has been. 4 Ks 0 BBs 1 GAB assisted bomb…
Not afraid to nitpick
bronson f. arroyo
is a handsome man
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Attention Matt Holliday:
You clearly don’t care for the name “Hollidome”, therefore I will hereafter refer to you as Awesome Man.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
Money he hasn't gotten yet?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm meaning his next contract.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
At least Albert has earned his.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm taking a baseball history course
At Truman State. My professor asked me, being a Cardinals fan, what I thought the chances were that Pujols would remain a Cardinal. He’s a big Royals fan as far as I can tell, a week into the course, so it’s from an outside perspective. I think I answered briefly 75%.
That was my brief answer. My real answer, if I wanted to go into it, would be 50%. It would be 100% if I were 12. But I am so disillusioned with virtually everything that I have to cut it in half. Pujols is virtually the last bastion of baseball. He is the last hero of this generation that, to this day, has not been proven a cheat, a cheater, a liar or a bad person.
To this day he is known worldwide as the greatest baseball player of our time, and receives nothing but media praise for his charitable work, his performance on and off the field, etc.
I’ll ask this: How do you not pay for his next contract, even if the owners don’t make a penny, and potentially lose a few for a few years? The guy is that important.
The issue isn't losing a penny
It’s losing $30,000,000 a year if he gets hurt/falls off a cliff.
Not afraid to nitpick
I'm sure the contract will include a clause about dangerous activities like cliff jumping.
You can read it in any tone you like.
Well, the elbow might be insured.
The don’t typically insure for every body part.
You can read it in any tone you like.
what is joe mauer...
chopped liver?
Derek Jeter? Hanley Ramirez? Lance Berkman? Tim Lincecum? Etc? Think you’re being a bit melodramatic.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
All of those players
Are your team stars of the 90s/00s. They come and they go, they might make the Hall of Fame and they might not. They’re great and they perform so well you sometimes can’t understand it.
But Albert Pujols? That guy isn’t a team star, he’s a baseball star. If he retired today he would be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Jeter and Berkman? Have loved watching them play. They’re great. I cringe every time Berkman comes to bat because I know something bad (vs the Cardinals) is going to happen. Jeter as a Yankee can suck a dick though.
Hanley? Lincecum, etc? Hanley Ramirez is fun to watch. As the game stands he stands to be making a shit ton more money than he is currently. Lincecum? Guy has a rubber arm and is absolutely fantastic, that guy can throw a god damn game if I’ve ever seen one. Happens to smoke weed, goes to show that that drug isn’t bad in the slightest.
My point was, though, how do you not re-sign the face of your franchise? The face of baseball? The face of baseball in this generation, untarnished to this day from steroids and commended for his work with his family and other organizations?
How is that being melodramatic?
Read it again
Stand by what I said. Yeah, it’s from a St. Louis point of view from someone who loves the Cardinals, but what changes it from accurate to melodramatic? The original post was talking about his contract, and I just don’t see how an organization could not re-sign him within reasonable limits.
Others?
I’m only 23. That puts me way back at age 14 when Pujols hit the big leagues. Before that I loved Mark McGwire, and we all know where that led us to.
Kids, like myself, grow up with sports figures being idols. I don’t know if I can name one that hasn’t been tarnished or left St. Louis, my hometown, that I’ve looked up to. I probably can’t think of many sports figures in any city that are still clean, morally and physically.
So I guess I’m sorry for idolizing Albert Pujols for being the second coming of Christ, or whatever number “Christ” is on these days.
So Taguchi's not good enough for you?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
being the internet
I can’t really tell what your response means. But my user icon is a graphic of So Taguchi for a reason, I loved watching that guy play.
If your comment were regarding players leaving St. Louis, I meant ones that wanted to. I have a weird childhood crush on my city where I believe no player in their right mind wants to leave our team. Man, I love me some Taguchi
This is all subjective and hyperbolic.
And when you say things like “Jeter as a Yankee can suck a dick” you’ve probably lost any credibility that you had.
You can read it in any tone you like.
fair enough
Sorry to interject my unjustified hatred of the Yankees into a game thread. I really do hate them, probably more then I hate a lot of things, which I am not proud of. See: racism, war, violence, etc. hippie stuff. Insert Yankee baseball player into my previous comment and I’ll stand by it.
TRUMAN STATE!!!!!!!!!
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
hating on kirksville is SO original
especially by kids who are going to/went to mizzou.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously
that’s why it’s so original.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, the unveiling of Scroog McHolliduck

Thus spoke Zarathustra!
by The_teague on May 16, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not being an asshole
but a genuine question, I thought the quote was “Thus spake Zarathustra”
Am I misremembering?
yeesh.
we’re getting punk’d right?
right?
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
That was a textbook
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Can we score 5 runs in 5 innings while preventing the other...
team from scoring any? Seems unlikely.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
so how many runs this inning for cincy?
this game, like the cards of late, is a joke.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
how about you
go watch some tennis or eat icecream or sth
but stop whining
you wouldn’t have survived a year as a cubs fan
by d-dee on May 16, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
You mean like a cumulative year?
Because most Cubs fans give up after like one or two games, so a baseball year (162 games) would actually be like 100 real years.
by jd is legend on May 16, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Welp
I’m going to go find something less painful to do.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 16, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
are we playing for a rainout?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well, on the bright side,
when we inevitably go back to not being a Double-A team the winning will be all the sweeter because of this stretch.
yeah
it seems to me it might be a long season…but id be happy to eat crow..
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
There's no way the offense will continue to be this bad.
We’re averaging like 2 runs a game over the past couple weeks minus that 11 run game in Pittsburgh. And we have been getting some bad breaks one after another lately.
i hope you are right
and the one thign i have noticed is that they seem to make adjustments late in games…nto just when the starting guy leaves..
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
I swear to GOD
If they don’t pull this US Cellular ad (and a PRETZEL) by the end of the year I’m going to do something angry and very unfortunate.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
on the radio that is...
The ads have been absolutely terrible this year.,
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
and i wouldnt have remembered it being a US cellular commercial
until u reminded me….making it even worse…but then again i remember visual things better
by guillermozeliak on May 16, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree
sadly i cannot participate, but if i could grow a mustache, i would do so.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
please get a bunt down...
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
nevermind... :)
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
Penny has reached his Cardinals "fuck this shit!" moment!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
sniff. they grow up so fast.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
penny gets... a hit?
i’m not sure if i like this or not.
/evenonerunwilldo
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
sounds painful
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ANYTHING
just… anything.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything good
/f’nGOBs
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I will take that.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
yes and amen
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
low and away breakign ball
de ja vu?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
hey, a run!
let’s get three more raz!
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
a run!!!!!!!!!
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
Tony almost never squeezes anymore.
He used to all the time with Eckstein. Since he left its fallen out of favor.
hit before the rain comes! time crunch!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
... and here comes the rain.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
yes dont remind us
terrible called game
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Here comes the rain again, falling on my head like a memory
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile way and you have their shoes.
Are they going to call it early?
Or wait until they get close and then stop play…
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions
we finally threaten and then the rain comes?
i’m going on a crusade to kill the GOB
who’s with me?
Master of Typos
You are SO on your own on that
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile way and you have their shoes.
no, curse them! curse those bastards
just don’t not believe in their existence.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hanigan goes to talk to Bronson. for a while. with Joe West behnd the plate.
effers.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
LaRue delays his run-down long enough
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
JASON LARUE NO!!!!
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions
Chief Justice in the rain
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
another baserunning miscue...
c’mon Jay
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
Pujols shields his bat with a towel.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
fuck you ump
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions
Better than no runs!
I’m a glass is 5% full, not 95% empty kinda guy
by jd is legend on May 16, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
wow...
that was incredibly anticlimactic
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
Sigh
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
almost hits his elbow ansd its a strike??
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Joe West is allergic to the rain
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
joe west and angel hernandez on the same crew
awesome.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
You know what's fun to read?
Every single NBA’s team blog considering how much it would take to get Lebron.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I still don't see
How LeBron doesn’t end up making more money by taking a paycut given the salary cap. He’s not going to be a “global icon” or be able to do a lifetime Jordan-type brand unless he wins 3 titles at minimum. If he went to Chicago for 15M a year or whatever along with Bosh, that team would actually have a chance to be historically good.
Not afraid to nitpick
That would make sense
And I think he actually ends up at Chicago, but New York has just as many financial opportunities if not more, and more money to sign players, like Joe Johnson or Amare Stoudamire.
You give a team like that to Mike Dantoni with Bosh/Stoudamire and Johnson with pieces, how does that team not score 130 points a game and be historically great?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Chicago has Rose though
Rose is just as good as any of those other FAs and Noah is a perfect role player no matter how annoying he is. The Knicks are absolute dogshit—-I think Galinari is the best non-FA player from last year?
Not afraid to nitpick
You are right, Gallinari is
because everyone else on their team is a FA. He’s supposedly going to be a starter and has the talent to be pretty good in Dantoni’s system.
Rose is good, I don’t deny that, but I just think Lebron would prefer NY over Chicago. As you said, Chicago already has an icon in Derrick Rose. Will Lebron want to share that spotlight? I don’t think he will, and a place like New York (Or New Jersey, for that matter, they already have Harris and Lopez, and if they add another piece to that and Lebron, that goes from shitty team to championship contender) will headline him as the icon and a star like no other.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
If LeBron went to Chicago, would he really be sharing the spotlight?
Come on. He needs a Pippen to win championships.
And New York can't supply one from the FA market?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
My point is
If LeBron were willing to budge on the money thing, he could have a FA stud AND Rose to play with if he went to the Bulls.
Not afraid to nitpick
The problem is, he's human,
It’s logical for him to get as much many as he can get. I just don’t buy that he cares that much about a championship to not take a max contract. It is baffling to me. Lebron is out there to get his own just like every other superstar.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
He's already a very rich man
You know how sometimes movie stars do independent films for very little money?
These things raise their profile, allowing them to command higher prices thereafter. Similarly LeBron might have the foresight to go for something with less immediate $$ but more chance of championships, which will elevate his brand to the next level.
Movie stars do that because it's the cool thing to do
Basketball players don’t think that way
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
How many basketball superstars in their prime have said...
I’ll play for less somewhere else?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Right
And I’m saying that the only way he’s going to be able to do the Jordan-type brand is if he is on a historically great team. I’m saying it makes financial sense to take less money in order to build that type of team. Ignoring basketball, he won’t be able to be the lifetime marketing stud with the LeBron + 4 guys team.
Not afraid to nitpick
I understand your point
but I just don’t think that it is feasible in Lebron and his agent’s mind. Their mindset is “I am going to be the best player on any team I go to, and I should make the most because of it”. So if what your suggesting is offered to him, why take it when you can get a max contract from NY or NJ along with other high profile FA’s and contend for a championship.
Just to clarify, your theory makes sense, I just believe that in his position, it would be a last resort option.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
As much as I like Rose
LeBron wouldn’t have to be sharing spotlight with him. He’s LeBron.
The Nets would make a lot of sense too, but we’ll know what his priorities are by where he goes. Simmons’ article on the issue was really good I thought.
Not afraid to nitpick
I don't know where he should go
but if I were him I’d gtfo of Cleveland. All this stuff about “he’ll never have the same legacy if he does it for another team” is total BS. If he wins a few with another team down the line somewhere, is anyone really going to begrudge him for leaving perhaps the shittiest city in America to do it? Nah
I agree.
All these people that argue that seem to be purists that compare him to Michael Jordan every single time, and Michael never left Chicago until his brief stint in Washington. It’s pretty annoying. I mean, the guy is going to be a top 10 player all time, but he doesn’t have to follow the mold of someone else.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
He doesn't exactly help that cause
By having worn #23 and talk about how he wants to be a “global icon”. He wants to be on Jordan’s level.
Not afraid to nitpick
Meh, the #23s just an ego trip really.
But you are correct. :)
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Nooooooooo
Joe Johnson is re-signing with Atlanta!
/covers ears, runs away saying “la la la la la la”
by jd is legend on May 16, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
thats hilarious
i dont follow the nba…but i was thinking how cool it would be that the bulls could get lebron…not knowing it was an actuall possibility
my reason was exactly that…rose and lebron would be amazing to watch….
rose /pippen comparison…seriouslY?…also NY would be a disaster…im not sure david lee is completely pleased with his position
by guillermozeliak on May 16, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
tweet from reds dude
Joe West looking around, doesn’t look like he’s gonna stop anything. Penny warming up. #Reds #StLCards
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 2:45 PM EDT reply actions
very uncool
come on fellas, we aren’t Cubs fans.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Al
shut the fuck up about the spike cleaner thingie. Yes we know it’s the only thing they have done for the pitchers in decades. Move on. Find someothing else to rage against.
the reds broadcasters
are talking about dessert carts
not any better
at least Al’s rant is baseball related
wow.... i just got into it with my dad
about colby rasmus… baically he said he’s never going to be an All-Star… that he’s hoping for .285 but thinks he’s closer to .255 that he got last year
his proof was that he’s not that clutch – 1-7 with RISP
i said he’s batting .290…. he said he had one really great stretch and the averages will go back down
i said he sounded like a real idiot right now and i left…. i can’t believe he just literally ignored everything he’s done so far and supported it with his poor RISP totals…
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
that'll teach you
that the rules of veb apply in real life
never talk/argue with your father about
- religion
- politics
- baseball
Rasmus probably won't be much better than a .260-.270 hitter
Except .270/.370/.520 is a legitimate star with his defense.
Not afraid to nitpick
see i hope he does better, because my dad will see the average
and that’s as far as he’ll go… ignore the OBP, ignore the defense, ignore power
he will seriously still think he’s right if he bats .270
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 16, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Colby's more likely to hit .270 than .300
but he’s still all star caliber. The problem is that he strikes out at a 25-30% clip and hits a lot of fly balls. That profile is not conducive to a high batting average.
Is Felipe Lopez the glue that holds this team together?
it’s been since he went down that all these troubles started…
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
agreed
I think it makes a big difference to be able to stick a guy with a good bat anywhere on the infield when one of the other guys is struggling. Tyler greene hasn’t cut it…
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
we just turned on the game at work
and I hate everything
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 16, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
STOP INTENTIONALLY WALKING PEOPLE
k?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
I'm out.
I can’t take this anymore. I hate the Reds so fucking much.
by mattisnotfrench on May 16, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
FFS
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Brad Penny at 104
Maybe a good time to get him out? Like now?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Be specific
the GOBs are listening
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
if the GOB abandoned us
who’s fucking us over?
/has never actually happened to me. nope.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Something related to Pujols calling time
but I missed the specifics.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Save us, Felipe López, you're our only hope.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
This needs a photoshop.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
someone tell me it's going to be okay
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions
We've got seven at home...
versus WAS, FLA and LAA. Can you say seven game winning streak?!?
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Not to mean we won't win the series, I just can't see us sweeping those two guys.
Angels series we probably win, maybe sweep.
First we need to start using bats instead of soggy rolls of wrapping paper
before we start talking streaks.
i seemed to have missed our 6th inning..
When we had Pujols, Holliday, and Freese up…
You know what we need to do. We need to put fix the lineup.
Skippy
Ryan
Pujols
Holliday
Rasmus
Ludwick
Freese
Yadi
Pitcher
Holliday needs to be moved to 5th or 6th.
He is not producing right now in that cleanup spot, we at least need to try somebody else.
I agree. The dude has a .465 OPS with RISP right now.
Ludwick or Raz should be moved to cleanup until Holliday improves.
still has a ~.400 OBP though
if we’re going to move him around, he needs to be moved UP in the lineup, not down.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Okay I'm going to try to be positive
at least the Reds fans – who are pretty decent Midwesterners – have a good team to cheer. Of course, Dusty may it ruin it for them later. But Walt has assembled a respectable roster.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Things are pretty low
when a Cards HR doesn’t cause VEB to explode.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions
I have this powerful urge for a snowcone, though
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you're kinda fixated!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it is pretty weird that Cards backup catchers have had so many unexpected homeruns
that it’s a meme. it’s not just Gary Bennett anymore.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that dude who's in the running for that car is pretty happy, I bet.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
haha, do the jump-bodyslam *before* the catch.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Assholes can't even collide right.
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DROP THE BALL!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions
On another positive note
We had an extended stretch like this in 2006 after losing an embarassing game to the White Sox 20-6. Yet despite struggling to stay 5 games over .500 from then on, we got hot in the playoffs and won a World Series. Go figure.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
one problem
I don’t think they’re giving away seat cushions anymore.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Dudes, it isn't the national anthem
you don’t need your hands over your hearts.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions
I was at the game the other day
People took off their hats for GBA and then put them back on for the SSB.
I wish Albert
wouldn’t do that fade away across the bag with a runner bearing down on him.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Al talking about Mitchell Boggs putting the fear of God into hitters is some kind of hilarious
as is Dan calling it “the effectiveness”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Canwedoitagain?
Top of the 9th, Cardinals Batting, Behind 3-9, Reds’ David Weathers facing 8-9-1
David Weathers replaces Felipe Lopez (PH) pitching and batting 4th
t9 3-9 0 —- 5,(3-1) .BCBBB STL Y. Molina D. Weathers 0% 1% Walk
t9 3-9 0 1— 6,(3-2) BFBBF>B STL A. Nunez D. Weathers 1% 1% Walk; Molina to 2B
t9 3-9 0 12- 3,(0-2) CFX STL D. Eckstein D. Weathers 2% 3% Single to RF (Line Drive); Molina to 3B; Nunez to 2B
Roger Cedeno pinch hits for Randy Flores (P) batting 2nd
t9 3-9 0 123 3,(0-2) .TCC O STL R. Cedeno D. Weathers -2% 1% Strikeout Looking
t9 3-9 1 123 5,(2-2) SBBCX RO STL A. Pujols D. Weathers -1% 0% Groundout: SS-2B/Forceout at 2B; Molina Scores; Nunez to 3B
t9 4-9 2 1-3 1,(0-0) X R STL R. Sanders D. Weathers 1% 1% Single to LF (Line Drive); Nunez Scores; Pujols to 2B
Danny Graves replaces David Weathers pitching and batting 4th
t9 5-9 2 12- 3,(1-1) .BFX RRR STL J. Edmonds D. Graves 3% 4% Home Run (Fly Ball to CF-RF); Pujols Scores; Sanders Scores
t9 8-9 2 —- 4,(2-1) BFBX STL M. Grudzielanek D. Graves 8% 11% Reached on E3 (Ground Ball); Grudzielanek to 2B
t9 8-9 2 -2- 1,(0-0) X RR STL J. Mabry D. Graves 69% 81% Home Run (Fly Ball); Grudzielanek Scores/unER; Mabry Scores/unER
t9 10-9 2 —- 2,(0-1) CX STL Y. Molina D. Graves 1% 82% Single to 2B (Ground Ball)
t9 10-9 2 1— 4,(2-1) *BSBX STL A. Nunez D. Graves 1% 83% Single to 2B (Ground Ball); Molina to 2B
t9 10-9 2 12- 2,(0-1) CX O STL D. Eckstein D. Graves -3% 80% Flyball: RF
7 runs, 6 hits, 1 error, 2 LOB. Cardinals 10, Reds 9.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
if only
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
/smacks own forehead
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Was just thinking that.
Right now, Holliday:
Bases empty: .967 OPS
Runners On: .674
RISP: .465
Terrible.
No need to panic.
Here are the total number of PAs in those situations:
Bases Empty: 69
Runners On: 76
RISP: 52
Matt Holliday had 670 PAs last season. There is a whole heck of a lot of season left.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
interesting idea for a pool
what date will Holliday’s tOPS+ become greater than 100? (he was at 18 before today).
I’ve got 15 August, on a 3-run home run against the Cubs.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
you're probably right, but
if he hits for his career average OPS of 0.386/0.542=0.928 OPS the rest of the way, and gets the same ratio of PA_RISP/PA_no_RISP as he’s had this season so far (.36), he’ll only have to hit for a 1.019 OPS w/RISP the rest of the way (~195 pA’s) to make it happen by EOS. That’s not impossible.
If he hits for his current PA_no_RISP the rest of the way, he’ll need a ~.920 OPS w/RISP to catch it up. That’s well within the realm of possibility.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Bronson yuks it up with LaRue
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
A noted musician?
Dan, the line you were searching for is “He’s in a shitty rock band”
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions
I feel a monster comeback coming on...
five years ago I watched the Cards do the impossible… it can happen again. We’ve got Yadi and Stavinoha on the bench to bat for Boggs and GreenTea.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Is it bad that Arroyo is as productive this game as our entire offense?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Big mistake...
letting Arroyo try to finish this… Now Cordero will have to get ready in a hurry.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Fuck.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
We got bitch slapped by Walt Jocketty and Scott Rolen...
bad day… But will still be at least 10 up on them by October.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
effin Tony...
shoulda gone Mather for Boggs, Yadi for GreenTea, and saved Stavinoha for Holliday.
Duh…
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Yes.
But this is coming at the intersection of the Reds being (ahem) red hot and the Cardinals freezing hell over with their coldness. Both teams will regress soon and all will return to normal. Hopefully.
Hopefully...
Indeed.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Time for Tony to do the unthinkable
And do a major overhaul of the batting order. Yes it’s time for Pujols to bat 4th with Holliday in the 3rd spot. It’s time to shake things up and see if better results can come.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
Why not...
Lopez
Holliday
Pujols
Rasmus
Ludwick
Freese
Molina
Pitcher
GreenTea/Boog/Skip
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Yes, please.
Although, with Holliday’s horrendous walk rate, a lineup I once hoped for is no longer as palatable to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Wow, Haren got thumped pretty good by ATL.
He lost to LA the start before. A weird line in that one, though, with 10 Ks and 10 Hits in 6.1 IP.
Has anyone been watching him? Is this anything more than random variance?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions
I was weighing adding to him my fantasy team a week or so ago.
And while I know that no one gives a f—- about my fantasy team, this deliberation caused me to look at his peripherals. Career-high GB%, career-low LOB%, career-high K/9, and an xFIP of—get this—2.87, which is awesome. It seems like he will even out (in a good way). I did not try to add him because league is still in the stone ages and uses “wins” as a stat. Since I have Greinke already, I didn’t want to add another good starter with a bad bullpen that won’t get me as many “wins” as he should.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i watched the LA game on tuesday
because i know the dodgers rookie pitcher. 8 of those 10 strikeouts came first 3 innings. think he only gave up a single to manny in that period. the dodgers later strung some doubles together, and haren was down 4-0 i believe when he got pulled.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
correction
reading dodgers site, haren had 9 of those 10 k’s the first 3 innings, all but one swinging.
is it any wonder that a pitcher named ELy shut down the d’backs? this kid must be the snakepit’s worst nightmare. and he’s been excellent thus far, with a 5.67 k/bb and 1.91 FIP.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Boog removed as everyday shortstop for now:
“I just think right now, he’s giving indications like he’s struggling enough to where it’s unfair to play him,” La Russa said. “Unfair to him, unfair to us. You don’t want to push a guy out there when he’s really struggling.”
“I’m going to spot him,” La Russa said. "See how much he needs to get spotted. If he plays real well, then he doesn’t get spotted for long.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions
Wow.
Quite a fall for Boog. I haven’t seen an official announcement as to the roster moves to make room for Lopez, but I wonder what this means. Will T-Greene still get sent down or will an outfielder?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
so is Brendan Ryan's last name now
“Experiment”?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Maybe that is name for the position of SS?
And this is a sad reminder of the mental aspect of the game. Whether it is a hot or cold streak, there is a mentality that accompanies it. Cold streaks always run this risk of dragging a player down into the mire mentally. Sadly, this appears to be what has happened with Brendan. I really hope that he is able to build himself back up in a part-time role.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
the Phillies series phucked a lot of people over
granted, I am not happy that the team as a whole couldn’t right the ship after it, but that really broke open a lot of the lingering issues.
if not for those two calls, Brendan would’ve had a triple and a single in key spots in the series. think of what his average would’ve been. hell, think of what his plate recognition would’ve been if there had been a consistent strike zone.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He is just flailing right now.
He looks lost at the plate and his body language is just awful. It’s never a good idea to speculate as to what a player (or manager, or coach, or GM, or owner) is thinking, but Boog looks as if he is expecting to make an out when he is at the bat, and his reaction after making that out seems to be one expectancy.
I know what you mean about the scorer, but Boog needs to be mature enough to objectively assess a PA by performance, not outcome according to a scorekeeper. Granted, “mature” and “Boog” don’t often find themselves in the same sentence, and this is a problem.
We need his glove at SS, which means we need something approaching, at a minimum, an Izturian level of offensive production.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
what kills me is he was *fine* when they came into Philly
he was almost there, his ABs were balanced, he was drawing walks, he had some hard-hit balls. then it just went off the rails entirely.
I think he is pretty mature, given where he came from. it’s a lot harder to take on those responsibilities and excel if you’ve never had practice doing it. but man, he is easily distracted and very, very hard on himself. he’s like Skip without any inner assurance that he can bull through something, not unless someone tells him he can.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
His PA against Lidge in the Wainwright game,
with a runner on third and less than two outs, was absolutely horrendous. Sadly, that’s the only PA of Brendan’s that I remember from that whole series.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I believe so.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Not in the dirt,
but three straight low and away sliders.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
well, to be fair
he’s always chased those pitches. and man, that centerfield camera sucked. there was no way to really judge (though I never read the exciting conclusion of that long, long thread debating this point.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
could agree more
pertaining to the 2 bad calls….i really felt for him there….cause that was the beginning of the end
as for the lidge ab……..the third pitch was the worst….i dont bllame him for th e first two…but all in all did anyone expect him to be a 300 hitter this year? i was hoping but i didnt think there was a chance
by guillermozeliak on May 16, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't blame him for the third swing
considering the count was 0-2 and it was at least over the plate, even if it crossed 4-5 inches below his front knee. i do wish he had allowed the count to be 2-0, though.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
BJRains
Getting lots of questions about Greene….La Russa said Thursday that Tyler Greene would be going down to Memphis whenever Lopez comes back. 17 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
HFS
about the only positive left to cling to right now (aside from the starting pitching, Lohse and Beaker’s performance today notwithstanding) is that this is all happening in May and not October. Shit is bleak in Birdland right now though, that’s for sure.
the GOB must really hate us
not only is Penny scuffling, he can’t seem to pitch with any run support (yeah, yeah… et cetera), or get out of pitching in downpours (HFS!)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
There are just so many bad breaks going against us
going back to the ghastly officiating in the Phillies series. I think when we lost those 3 the whole team started pressing really badly.
yes
and I’m annoyed that they can’t take those breaks as they come. or they take those breaks personally. it makes a bad situation worse, and that’s what we’re seeing right now.
I still think the fans punched the panic button too soon.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and now it *is* time to panic and nobody can hear themselves for the hysteria.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That downpour game was absolutely inexcusable.
I was there. That was one of the worst calls I’ve ever seen an umpire crew make. There was lightning all around. There were tornadoes fast approaching. You could barely see the left fielder from seats on the first base side of the stadium. It was absolutely ridiculous that they did not delay that game after the fifth inning.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm glad you got out safely!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
We had tickets with access to a bar underneath the seats.
Essentially, it was a tornado shelter. We just stayed in there and watched the radar. Then, I went and bought my Musial and Colby t-jerseys, walked back to the hotel, read your comment from Rains that play would re-commence at 11:25 and went back to Busch to watch the final 3.5 innings from behind home plate. It was a lot of fun.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
glad to be of service
it’s always shocking when VEB is useful, haha.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It was very helpful.
I doubt we’d have returned to the Stadium in time had you not posted that comment. Thank you for that.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
are you kidding
whenever Carp got into it with Lee on Thursday, we all didn’t know what had happened. i got onto VEB and explained it to the whole dugout box
Ugh.
Tyler Greene might possibly be a better hitter than Boog. Maybe. But the offense’s problems are named Matt Holliday and Albert Pujols.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
cards have lost 10 of their last 13
eww
something happened in philly
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
damn
I knew it was bad, but not that bad
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
3-9
but same difference
jus a lil bump no biggie
by guillermozeliak on May 16, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
is... is Albert... what is Albert doing?
dgoold Arroyo to Jim Hayes: “Albert doesn’t look as comfortable as he normally does and that makes it easier to pitch to that lineup.” #stlcards 44 minutes ago via web
BJRains Albert Pujols told reporters after the game that he is “right where I want to be” at the plate… 18 minutes ago via web
Don’t strike me down, GOB, but that sounds like something ……… Wellemeyer would say don’tkillme
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well, albert
you’re not right where i want to you to be.
fwiw
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
you tell 'em, pj
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Epic grammar fail?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
i guess i need another comma after 'albert'
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
but it's implied
since i’m going from subject line to comment line
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Here
you’re not right where i want to you to be.
Sorry, I’m just annoying about stuff like that. Not a big deal :D
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Oh wait
I thought Taskmaster was correcting pj by putting the “to” in there. I never noticed that “to” in pj’s original post. Weird. Please disregard my haha’s above.
by jd is legend on May 17, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
You know what though,
usually he is right on top of this stuff. This probably means he’s gonna go on a tear soon.
maybe
he’s just trying to have the type of season that we expect of holliday so we can sign him to a 7/120 extension at the end of the year!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
OT
I discovered what Az’s “other obligation” was today.
Eyes flashing, robot conducts wedding in Tokyo
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Per P-D
this is hard to digest
The Cardinals fell to 4-9 when their starting pitchers allow more than two earned runs.
I want the Walrus back...
that is a little deceiving
considering the number of unearned runs in some of those losses. in other words, our offense didn’t necessarily fail in all those games, if that is implied. sometimes it was defense/starting pitching, and bullpen.
that said, although our offense is average, so is the reds. but they are third in the league in BA with RISP. and i suppose they don’t give up a lot of unearned runs, since they lead the league in fielding percentage. they are also first in the league in going first-to-third on the bases, which we saw quite a bit of, even arroyo taking third on a hit to left today.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
more undigestibles
BJRains Courtesy of @bwiese16, the Cardinals take the second-most swings in baseball behind only the Blue Jays: http://tiny.cc/dvb69 about 3 hours ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
they need to see more pitches
this is getting ridiculous, they are swinging at almost everything.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
even Albert is looking
ridiculous in some at bats. And not in the usual Albert ridiculous way..
I want the Walrus back...
Mac needs to fine them
regardless of outcome. just fine them. make them shag balls. make them load the laundry cart. something.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I mean, it's getting silly to keep telling the media that he can't figure why they're doing what everyone sees they're doing
which is, admittedly, a step up McRae who had no clue, but it’s kind of like right when we signed Smoltz — better than Wellemeyer!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah but it doesn't really seem any different than the mcrae philosophy
which is to go up to the plate swinging aggressively. makes you wonder how much of that is really tlr’s philosophy (but you’d think mcgwire would say, hey wait a minute, maybe they should try seeing more pitches and not just hack away)
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
that connects into the larger mystery of tlr and his hitting coaches
which may lead to evilfrog being turned into a vampire-zombie by dark-robed financiers and dog fanciers, so best not to delve too deeply….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what were we talking about?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I've said too much
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
had to rec that
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
it's
The La Russa Code
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
it's something
when this is the fourth year in a row that this has been an issue
makes you wonder how this team would perform under fresh blood
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
that is amazing
considering how much first-pitch swinging they do, which, if it’s put in play, sort of limits how many swings you get. i know one game luddy’s first 3 ab’s he only got 3 swings – saw 3 pitches total. apu and schu seem to do a lot of this too. must be all our strikeouts that run the swing-totals up.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Joe Morgan "doesn't believe in" run differential
“but when you’re talking about 2 runs a game, that’s saying something.”
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
did he bring up the 1960 world series?
yanks outscored the pirates 55-27, or basically 8-4 on average, but lost on maz’s walk-off homer in game 7. the three yankee wins were 16-3, 10-0, and 12-0.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
wait
he doesn’t believe in the difference between how many runs one team scored and another?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
That's what he said...
I think he meant that he didn’t believe that it was relevant whether a team outscored its opponents by a lot or a little over the long term (i.e. it’s not indicative of how good a team is). But then he was all impressed by Tampa outscoring it’s opponents by two runs per game, so I’m not sure what his position on the matter is.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
RIP to the man on the silver mountain
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
Orel, pop-ups are not caused by dropping the back shoulder
They are caused by just missing the ball.
they are caused by malware
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they came back to win today, unfortunately
one of those days i guess, when rivera gives up a grand slam and the reds go into first place.
a reliever on the nats has 7 wins – wonder if he can hit…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Kind of a lame grand slam...
It was a 315 foot golf shot. That pitch gets rolled foul, tapped to the first baseman or taken for a ball 99% of the time.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
you could look at that as being impressive, then
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
eh...
blind luck on the part of Kubel. Putting that kind of a swing on a Mariano Rivera cutter so far outside the zone…. It’s a case of stupid like a fox. Definitely not advisable. Especially considering Rivera just walked the previous guy, and it was an 1-0 count.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
wasn't it down and in?
surely rivera didn’t want to put one there in his wheelhouse – must’ve wanted it up more to jam him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Apparently I'm not meant to watch baseball today
b2b HRs by Milwaukee after I turned it on.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
I'm proud that I don't like any of the other teams in the central
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Screw Milwaukee
and screw their “Vote Brewers” bullshit.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 16, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, that's the abridged version
The full version reads “Vote Brewers and screw whichever NL team wins the pennant!”
by jd is legend on May 16, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate seeing the shift on pujols
but he’s become pretty predictable – only 2 hits to right all year.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i know that NGAFAMFT
but i just picked up Aramis Ramirez off waivers …. is this not a smart move? i mean he’s batting .170… he’s bound to go upwards…
second question… wouldn’t dropping him knowing he’s good for x amount be extremely dumb?
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
biggest surprise so far, Toronto, Washington, or San Diego?
I’d have to go with San Diego just because they are in first place, but also surprised to see Toronto is well above .500 and would be leading in a lot of divisions. also, the Nats are no pushover.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions
defintely Padres
they are in first place with a somewhat mild start from Adrian Gonzalez (.258, 7 homers)…
Toronto has a good rotation and Vernon Wells has played lights out and the Nats also have a good core of players
im not very impressed with the Padres rotation (back end) and I don’t think I can name 10 of their players on the spot
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 16, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
adrian gonzalez can carry a team at times
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
but he hasn't done that well
definitely not “carry a team” good
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 17, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
well
when the other guys slump I’m sure he’ll regress to his usual great stats
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 17, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
the pads
because they’re probably the worst of the three teams, and the most likely to finish last in their division by the end of the year.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I agree
they’re probably just not very good. a-gon is a great player, but beyond that I don’t really know how they are pulling off what they are doing other than they are not doing things fundamentally wrong.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess we can now add the reds to this list too
:(
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
and sometimes they yell back at CJ Beatty
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Who's Hot/Not
Ryan easily makes list, Schumacher qualified with .303 average (we were that bad), and a whole lot of sucktitude from the rest of the team
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
albert?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and the best hitter by far in may
david freese
colby has actually been quite a bit worse than i thought
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
probably get to see the 2009 first-round pick these games
not the one, but the tenth pick, drew storen
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

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