At Least Joe Mather Made Good Contact and Wore High Socks Overflow Thread
That's a tough game to lose—more specifically, a tough game to not tie—but it's early yet, and this makes me appreciate even more the Cardinals' narrow victory yesterday.
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Okay, yikes.
That picture was bigger than I was expecting.
that's what they said when it arrived at the table
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Deep fried grilled cheese?
Brilliant!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That does not look appetizing
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I dunno.
Grilled Cheese is good…Deep Fried items can be good…. I think I’d be down with it if there was grilled chicken in the sandwich as well, and maybe a BBQ dipping sauce?
That changes things...
but that sandwich looks over fried.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I would guess a little tomato soup for dipping
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
DanUp, I think there may be something
to your point… the middle of the order not producing as-advertised puts a lot of pressure on the periphery. some of them at the worst time.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
having 3 auto-outs at the end of the lineup hurts too
but maybe if the big guns get rollin’ the guys like Skip & Ryan will relax and perform better
your second sentence
esp. if it’s a mental / comfort thing
I mean, whatever it is afflicts up and down the lineup, it’s just that different players have different ceilings. base-running. the few holes on defense. other teams will game-plan to hit those weaknesses.
on the other hand, I would rather our weaknesses be exposed now rather than later, and while the rest of the division is still naked like a streaker in the Bank
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
The middle-infield black hole really needs to be dealt with. By now I’m in favor of Floppy coming back to a starting role as soon as he’s healthy, no matter what penalties that imposes in defense. This can’t go on.
StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on May 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
So was Skip out or safe?
They never showed a good view on FSM
"Tomorrow's game starts at high noon. High Noon. That's a great movie with the Duke. Shane, come back, Shane!" - Mike Shannon
follow up question
i’m out of town and didn’t get to watch it. did Jose Oquendo send him?
follow up question #2:
Skip ran from 1st?
#3:
so was it a great throw(s) or is he just slow (people seem to think he’s fast, so not true)
Thanks!
In order..
Yes, Oquendo sent him.
Yes.
Great throw from LF, then Yes, he’s slow. (And to be fair, Mather smoked that ball, which didn’t help Skip.)
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Skip sings sadly
am I not gritty enough?
is my swing too broken?
do I slide head-first too much?
is my spot just token?
don’t you think I’m clutch?
should I just run faster?
why do send, why do you send, why do you send me this time?
(I blame the earworms in public places. and I did have to look up the lyrics.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
till you and your avatar showed up
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
man
not even any interesting games on
guess, i’ll just act like i’m working
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
There goes post-loss Tony.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions
let's pretend CJ Beatty is talking to us
cjbeatty44 2 for 4 tonight w/2dbls……. But still not too happy b/c we lost :-( ……. We gotta bring our A-game tomorrow! Your44
25 minutes ago via Twitterrific
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
lol... what have we done?
miklasz I would surmise that TLR was upset, @GDM426, because they’d just lost the game two seconds before that. 7 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
bernie was talking to gdm?
/starstruck
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 15, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
gdm's quite the Twitter-er, isn't he?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
movin' on up
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 15, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
it's not what you know
it’s who you know
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 15, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
got bernie to snark at him, too
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
So, this twitter...thing. I has an account.
But…I’m trying to figure out what precisely the point of it is.
once you do
it’s too late
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It's to listen to fang
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
shut up.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i want my waino jersey to be here already
i bet if i were wearing it today, cards would have won
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
humble request of ducttape
in your post-game awards, could you do a TLR/advice dog mash-up?

"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions
it still doesn't make a whole lot of sense
i think this advice dog poster needs a complete overhaul
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 15, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
don't ask me. i'm just the one pitching the idea here.
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
pitching an idea should be like "it's Avatar with puppies!"
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What you haven't seen Avatar?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
the person being pitched-to will know it
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there something that I missed with the dogs
while I was away? Or am I just not getting the joke?
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
personally i use kittens in a basket
maybe he’s going for the puppies + TLR. or because there’s a meme generator for that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a meme
that’s not local to VEB
first time i’ve seen advice dog posted here
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
not worth every penny after all
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 15, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Lena Horne. that loss = still sad.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the interview with her daughter?
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
you guys ever get that tornado out there?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that was up on the wyoming border
about one hundred miles from Den, but we have had a few in recent years. As we continue to grow out on to the plains it is going to be a common occurence
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
was watching ubaldo
tornado warnings kept cutting into the broadcast. i was confused at first, because it was storming big-time in new orleans – took me a second to realize i was watching a denver feed.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ubaldo has really lost it now he gave up TWO runs today unacceptable
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
yeah, throwing 98 in the seventh
didn’t see the runs score – he got the win, right?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yep 7-1 one with the one L coming on an 8 inning one run allowed effort
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
I had no idea about the black
bourgeoisie connections before I heard that interview it really was interesting to think that in those times being a performer was equivalent to prostitution in the eyes of the black upper class
Stats are like a girl in a bikini, both would agree that Joe Morgan is an idiot
No Colby Jack?
FESPN
Interesting: Last season there wasn’t a game-ending put out at the plate. There have been three so far this year.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
no word on any moves?
reds announcers said lopex could be activated tomorrow.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
If the Cardinals are going to lose, that is the way to go out.
Tie game if skip runs like Freese/Colby/Mather. That’s my main gripe about our offense overall (the other things will work themselves out). But we’re not getting any faster, and our fast guys aren’t good at stealing bases, while our slow guys are generally our better baserunners (with the exception of Mather).
But games like that are why I love baseball.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
if we hold skip
does dusty bring in the little lefty to face colby, and then does tony pinch-hit – if so, larue or greene?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
on second thought, i'd bet he just walks colby
has the closer pitch to luddy.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Is Mather a poor baserunner?
He seems so baseball smart, though.
You can read it in any tone you like.
I think the meaning was:
Our slow guys are our better baserunners, except Mather, who is both fast, and a good runner.
tweets from Bernie
miklasz Final thought — an overview — Cardinals, according to stats on Bill James online, are not a good base-running team this season (1/2)
miklasz (2/2) Their percentage of runners advancing extra base on hits is well in the minus category. Minus-16 going into tonite. 29 minutes ago via web
miklasz In Cards’ 3-8 slump have averaged 2.0 runs and batted .223 / .292/ .295 with 1 HR in the 8 losses; 14 for 60 (.233) RISP. 22 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
i posted a link a few days ago
i think it was from fangraphs – the cards were 29th of 30 in baserunning by their measurement. i forget who was dead last.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Marion Jones is in the WNBA?
I guess I don’t watch enough FESPN. And I’m OK with that.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions
Would it really be so bad
if Tony at least tried batting Holliday in front of Pujols for a couple of games? Matty is having a tough time right now and I just wonder if this might help.
Here is what I would try for a upcoming series:
1. Shumaker
2. Rasmus
3. Holliday
4. Pujols
5. Ludwick
6. Freese
7. Yadi
8. Ryan/Lopez
9. Pitcher
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
he won't move pujols from 3
the best you could hope for is holliday at 2.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Heck I'd try that too
Matt needs to be out of the clean-up spot for a few games to maybe get him going. I think he’s starting to put to much pressure on himself right now. This offense needs a jumpstart and moving Holliday at a different spot might work. I would have him back at clean-up once he gets going.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
i've always thought holliday should bat in front of albert
this would help holliday, and you can’t really help albert. this is how the red sox did it – batting ortiz in front of manny helped ortiz immensely, imo, because he was the lesser of the two hitters.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
A few more weeks of a struggling offense
and Holliday struggling…Tony will hav to at least think of doing this I would hope. Especially if we slip out of first place and stay there for a period of time.
Boy a frosty cold Budweiser would be great about now"…long pause…then an "aahhh". --Mike Shannon
maybe a lot of weight on holliday being albert's protection
different than last year because he has the big contract now. but after giving him the big money to “protect” albert…i just don’t see them making this move, even if it makes sense.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
"holliday struggling"
FWIW, in the 11 games played in the month of May, before today, holliday has hit .357/.413/.452. In the last 5 games, before today, .375/.444/.438.
That .400+ OBP would definitely look better in front of pujols than behind, but he hasn’t exactly been Derreck Lee or Aramis Ramirez during the “slump”. It’s very unfair to say he’s been “struggling”.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
you would think he's tony's ideal 2 hitter
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
averaging it out.
if Holliday goes oh-fer, which he has quite a bit, he may not be struggling but the lineup sure as hell is.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
he seems to be struggling except when bases are clear
so maybe he should be a table-setter, for awhile anyway. i just think that contract complicates such a move.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i fail to see how a contract complicates anything given a TLR lineup
he had no problem running out the other Boras client into left field
more like the acquisition was billed as protection in the 4-spot, so it invites scrutiny as to why he’s being moved around. the perception from the size of the contract, belike.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, that's what i mean
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
sometimes the Onion doesn't have to try hard
Once again, sources stated, Ortiz only gets paid to hit. Just hit. Nothing else.
So those familiar with the Red Sox organization are completely clear, baseball insiders said, the Dodgers’ Andre Ethier is leading the NL with a .385 batting average, has 37 RBIs, and is second in the majors with 11 home runs. It also bears mentioning, they continued, that he plays a position in the outfield, is a 2009 Silver Slugger Award winner, writes the food blog Dining With ‘Dre, and does all of this for $7.25 million per year less than David Ortiz.
Sources also confirmed that Milwaukee’s Ryan Braun is right behind Ethier, hitting .359 with 28 RBIs, for only $1.3 million, if you can see where sources are going with that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
well, better how we went down than the bosox, i guess
detroit winning on a walk-off walk in the 12th.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, walk-off walk is just about the worst way possible to lose.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
tony would be challenged in the american league
to get his relievers some at-bats. this could be his next frontier.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He'd pinch hit with them in situations
where you can at least consider sac bunting.
so bored
sitting here with my thumb up my pah-too but dude won’t send anyone home early
i guess there are worse things than getting paid to browse VEB and listen to costello
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i work in a call center
i fix peoples’ computers. mainly removing viruses, but really anything they ask for
just that no one is calling tonight
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Shelby Miller 46/11 K/BB in 29 IP
He’s had one start where he didn’t have K > IP when he had 5 Ks in 5.1 IP. 2.17 GO/AO, 2 bombs given up, all good for a 2.06 FIP.
Be still my beating heart.
Not afraid to nitpick
it;s not my heart that needs to be still
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 16, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
towels, anyone?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 16, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
it's that time again... but sadly I gotta try to sleep

behave… ’e’s watching you
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
ernie banks is a minister
he can marry you at wrigley field, he says. also, he’s lobbying to get that toyota sign up at wrigley. apparently he drives a toyota, and they are “beautiful cars”. (listening to his interview in the reds booth)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i just watched the highlights for this game.
FUCK THAT NINTH INNING.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 16, 2010 2:07 AM EDT reply actions
remember how we intentionally walked gomes in the 6th,with 2 outs and rolen on second
and he scored the eventual winning run on a triple by stubbs, who waino had 0-2? eh, that close.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this
it was very concedey.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yeah thts pretty well how a well played ballgane on both sides goes
Is skip wasn’t sucktastically slow or our best pitcher doesn’t IBB a guy or puts away the next guy that he has 0-2 . . .
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
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