a return to form
whatever else may be said about last night's game, i believe the two following things should be noted:
a) we won, preventing an embarrassing cession of first place; and
b) the win was a very familiar kind of win.
familiar in so many ways, yet in ways not seen much in the last month: runs scored on dingers; ryan franklin entering the game, allowing enough baserunners to make my dining room feel crowded, yet somehow managing to pull out a save; tony la russa pulling off crazy pinch-hitter and reliever selections. what a relief from a month of heretofore unknown weirdness -- yadi stealing bases like an extremely ungainly michael bourn, runs scored exclusively on singles and sac flies, etc.
i was reflecting on tony's now notorious choice to allow mitchell boggs (lifetime OBP .045) to hit - or at least bunt - for himself, to pinch-hit joe mather for colby rasmus, and then to pull boggs for ryan franklin in the next inning. like some of the posters in last night's thread, i thought up various explanations about matchups and weird scenarios in the dugout, speculative trick play ideas canned at the last minute. then i came up with an even better explanation: tony does deliberately crazy things to keep people off their guard.
conventional wisdom is useful, but just that: conventional. conventional wisdom is that on your first day in prison, you should beat the crap out of the biggest guy in the joint; then no one will give you trouble. the problems with this conventional wisdom are many. a few of them: this presupposes your ability to beat up the guy who has been bench pressing a broom handle with six mop buckets full of water hung from it for the last 15 years; and it ignores the possibility that, even if you succeed, you may become the biggest, baddest guy in the place that all the new guys will sucker punch with a lunch tray and slice with a sharpened toothbrush to prove how tough they are.
tony instead is like the guy who drives a fork through the palm of his own hand in the lunch line and then uses the still-stuck-in-his-hand fork* to try to stab the biggest, baddest guy in the lunch room. the logic behind this tactic being that, regardless of whether he is successful, he will develop the rep of being completely insane and unpredictable. tell me that dusty baker doesn't sit in the dugout and wonder "what do i do if he sends jason larue in to pinch hit next inning. . . but batting left-handed? he could do it; after all, he is tony la russa. maybe i better save my loogy and let the right-hander pitch to rasmus."
* i do not recommend this tactic if incarcerated. for one, prison utensils have for many years been plastic, ever since freddy "the fork" malone laid waste to 5 louisiana correctional facilities. for another, freddy the fork died of sepsis after particles from otherwise inedible corned beef hash came off his fork and entered his bloodstream at the sixth institution. think on that, tony.
i wanted to touch on one issue that had arisen earlier in the week. a useful stat to keep in mind - the league-wide average LOB for pitchers is 71.7%.
logically, in a large sample size, you would expect an offense to strand about the same number of runners. now, presume that situational hitting is not a skill - maybe a big assumption for a lot of people. how about, situational hitting is much more a question of luck than skill?
i like to sit down after a game, especially when we are complaining about runners left on base. we should be scoring a little less than one of three base runners. we've had a lot of bad luck in terms of situational hitting in recent games. in our 4-1 loss to bud norris, we got 7 baserunners, but only scored one. in the 6-3 loss with penny pitching, we managed 14 baserunners, but scored 3. conversely, the astros got nine hits and no walks, and scored 6 runs.obviously, this is a shamefully oversimplified system. it doesn't account for power or the non-random situational aspects of getting on base. but in sitting down to look at a game after it finishes and really try to decipher what happened, i like to use that as a very rough benchmark.
LOB has another impact on this week's post.
i share some of the internet population's discomfort with kyle lohse's performance so far. looking at his peripherals hasn't been totally reassuring, but it's worth doing. i want to start with this one - 53.9%. that's the percentage of baserunners lohse strands on the basepaths in the course of a game. last year's most preposterously unlucky victim of bad LOB over the whole season was ricky nolasco at 61.0%. it's a pretty big leap to carl pavano at second place with 66.1%. so there's one big factor that is practically certain to regress to a more normal level. by comparison, todd wellemeyer pitched like todd wellemeyer last year with a 68.3% LOB.
his peripherals are sure worse than they were. his k/9 is running at 4.74, almost a full strikeout per nine innings below his career average. also, his bb rate is at 3.32, almost a half a walk per nine above his career numbers. most concerning, he's been benefiting from a very low hr/fb rate - about 3.8%, while he enjoys a 10% lifetime hr/fb. his xIP is 5.08.
so, while lob regression will give, hr/fb regression will take away.
in other areas, his gb rate remains pretty steady - he's lost a little bit of groundball skill. he's generating more contact (on about 85% of his pitches) than the league average (80%). if he's not striking anybody out and he's not getting the contact to turn into groundballs, he's not going to have great success.
well, at least not as a pitcher. he does have a +152 UZR/150 in left field . . . (no, there's no decimal missing).
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As something of a shank expert --
MSNBC runs a lot of prison shows on the weekend — I feel it’s my duty to tell everyone that you should stab with the sharpened toothbrush and not slice. Shanks are for stabbing; they get caught in the flesh as your arm decelerates pulling across someone’s gut if you try to slice. It’s science folks.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
You shank someone
with a shiv. Shank = verb, Shiv = noun.
by Hardcore Legend on May 15, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
What will the Cardinals be wearing tonight?
The Civil Rights game broke out throwbacks last season.
by Hardcore Legend on May 15, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions
i checked birdbats
Still no official announcement what type of TBC jersey the Cards will wear for tomorrow’s Civil Rights Game, but the Post-Dispatch’s Derrick Goold wrote this morning that the style would be consistent with 1947, the year Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
damn, I haven't read birdbats in a while.
great anecdotes.
Pujols has not used Louisville Sluggers in quite a while. Now we know why. “The final straw was some warped bats he rolled across the floor in front of the whole clubhouse (and H&B head sales rep Chuck Schupp),” Brian wrote. “We were having drying issues with our Maple and we paid dearly for it. We have made our product better since then, but the damage is done.”
Chris Carpenter used a flame-finished ash LS today with the H&B 125th anniversary logo. It looked like a Jason LaRue model. Inside the cup, you could see a blacked-out number and Carp’s #29 added.
Skip Schumaker is bucking the trend. His shirt tonight had a New Balance logo.
Oh yikes. This cap for the patriotic days?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
first year of the patriotic cap was best
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Patriotic Cap
I don’t like it when teams wear the patriotic logo caps in games. I always preferred the caps with the American flag patch.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
and what do the blue jays do
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Off day?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
get their games moved to Philly
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
1947 uniforms ought to be pretty cool.
I am excited to see them. Are we on FOX?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 10:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
MLBN
6pm
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
7:40 pm (Eastern time) first pitch
6:40 Central
(sorry, it’s a habit to put Eastern first since I live in MI)
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
by zoomzoomj88 on May 15, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm excited, too!
Albert wore high socks for the Negro Leagues game a couple seasons ago. I want to see if everyone joins in again tonight since it’s period-correct.
You can read it in any tone you like.
picked this up looking for the Civil Rights Game info
[fake blockquote] Cardinals star Stan Musial had an “off” year, hitting “only” .312 and driving in 95 runs. (He was usually good for .350 -.370 back in those days, with 120 or 130 RBI. link
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wow
Ubaldo Jimenez has a higher WHIP compared to his ERA. Huzzah for SSS and 6 walks in a no hitter?
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Crasnick has a good write up on Wainwright over at the WWL
“I try to change the pace in my delivery and my pitches all the time, so they don’t know what in the heck is coming,
— Adam Wainwright
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Wagons custom made for any occasion.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on May 15, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hehe, we're going on four mentions
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/5/14/1472461/adam-wainwright-article
it’s a badass
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
^piece
effin sbn
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I almost put in last night's overflow
but then vaguely remembered seeing it mentioned before.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone heard form akaitori?
He hasn’t posted in a few days. Hope he’s okay, maybe internet service is just spotty there at the moment.
I was just wondering about him
my guess is he’s just got bigger stuff to deal with at the moment, but hopefully he can check in once things cool down.
If I'm ever charged with a jailtime-able offense
I’m definitely drawing the trial out as much as humanly possible in order to train the shit out of some jiu-jitsu and juicing the best steroids I can buy while lifting weights like my life depended on it (because it would!). Then instead of beating someone, I’d attempt to rip someone’s arm clean off and give it back to them.
How good is Jaime Garcia?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on May 15, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Garcia = ROY in non-Heward year
"They're so stunned they didn't even boo!"
John Rooney 5/3/10 referring to Philly fans on Cards 5-run 7th inning
I think you just made a Heward's folly
haha, I kill myself.
Anyway, has no one seen 25th Hour. Obviously the only surefire solution is to have a good friend mash and disfigure your face into a bloody pulp.
some crazy jaime and heyward numbers...
at this point, they are tied in WAR at 1.2 (which is insane for both of them…)
Jaime has some seemingly unsustainable numbers:
i.e 3.2% HR on FB rate.
BABIP of .255
LOB% of 83.7%
though his BB and K numbers are pretty good at 3.25/9 and 7.71/9 respectively…
heyward:
well for all i dislike the piling on about heyward (basically his pre-season coronation as ROY if not more…) his numbers are pretty impressive:
wOBA: .442
for the more old-fashioned: OBP of .425 and SLG of .608
and while the OBP is helped by a .333 BABIP, it’s also helped a lot by his 16.7% walk rate
anyways… if jaime keeps pitching like he is (unlikely in my book, but fun while it lasts!!) he could give heyward a run for his money, and then we’d all get to enjoy watching the non-saber crowd fight over which is more valuable, 25 hr and a .300+ average, or 16 wins and a sub-3 era.
by duncans_army on May 15, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm no Heyward hater, what he's doing is very impressive
but I just think what Jaime is doing is even more impressive. I mean, if Jaime can keep it up (and I know he’s bound to regress), then that’s gotta be more unprecedented than what Heyward is doing, right?
in all honesty
when i decided to look it up and compare WAR’s, I was almost sure Jaime was going to be higher than heyward (jaime has just been ridiculous so far). but yeah in WAR heyward is right their with him…
oh, and with WPA, Jaime is like ~1.3 (which again is really quite good…), heyward is a ridiculous ~2.6!!
interestingly, though there is probably no way he could win as a 27 year old… Freese leads all rookies in WAR w/ 1.3…
by duncans_army on May 15, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
WAR uses FIP, which will underrate how well Jaime has pitched thus far in the season
by vivaelpujols on May 15, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Help my laziness
Didn’t you have some sort of metric that took defense but not “luck” out of the equation?
Not afraid to nitpick
I don't
Those exist (Rally’s WAR and DIRVA+ are the two best IMO) but the creators don’t calculate them until the end of the season.
by vivaelpujols on May 15, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
ahhh...
yeah that makes sense… i was almost sure jaime had been better so far.
btw, where is Jaime getting killed in the FIP calculation? they have him at nearly 3.0 which seems high especially considering he hasn’t given up many HR’s…
by duncans_army on May 15, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah i know
but he has one of the biggest ERA to FIP gaps of any starter, was wondering what numbers are holding him back (or is his ERA just that lucky…)?
by duncans_army on May 15, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on what you mean by lucky
Is the ERA-FIP gap repeatable? Probably not, but it did actually happened and a lot of it isn’t in the influence of defense.
by vivaelpujols on May 15, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Random note on this
I didn’t realize Lincecum had been as good as he has, good god 2.05 xFIP? I thought that 1.87 FIP was Pedroesque………till I saw Pedro did 1.39 in ’99. I always forget how insanely good he was.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah, but Lincecum and Pedro are very similar
Pedro had better controll
by vivaelpujols on May 15, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
And . .
I got nothing. Canada?
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on May 15, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, not anymore
Lincecum’s fastball is sitting in the low 90s (like 91-92). The first couple outings of his career his heater touched 100, but it’s been trending steadily downward. He’s just so deceptive and filthy it hasn’t seemed to matter. If anything, he’s a better pitcher at 91 mph than 100.
by Jon S. on May 15, 2010 12:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Less velocity, more movement?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 15, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Garcia's FIP is in the top 10.
As is Wainwright’s.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 11:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mostly timing
He’s stranding a ton of runners, and FIP takes that out of consideration. His BABIP is also .252. Some of that is defense, but he’s also allowing a lot of hard hit balls.
by vivaelpujols on May 15, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
This is what I would mean by luck.
His LOB% and his BABIP ought to even out a bit. He’ll still be very good, just not this great.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, although I was only talking about stats in an incidental sense
I mean, players come into the league and tear it up on offense while playing good defense from time to time. But how many rookie pitchers come in and put up the numbers Jaime is putting up? That’s gotta be a more exclusive club, I would imagine.
happ last year for philly did well
12-4, 2.93 era in 166 IP. he managed jaime’s LOB% for an entire year, at 85.2
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
also hanson at 11-4, 2.89 era
while stranding just over 80%. neither won ROY, finishing 2-3, but i’d take a year like that from jaime.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I guess we are spoiled in the hitting department for rookies
since we saw Pujols’s ridiculous rookie year… and Heyward is not going to do that well (he will strike out more, hit for a lower average, though his walks may be a bit higher)… but rookie pitchers just don’t have these kinds of seasons… do they?
(let’s not talk about that other STL rookie pitcher from several years ago)
Rookie pitchers just seem to need a lot more adjustment time, they have more meltdowns, mysterious terrible outings, etc. They lack the consistency that rookie hitters can have, even.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
it's not a jinx
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't like the fact that you segued from ripping someone's arm clean off to Jaime Garcia :(
by jd is legend on May 15, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I've come to the conclusion Cardinal baseball
would be a whole lot less fun if we didn’t have crazy Tony doing something stupid now and again. For the most part we’ve gotten sane Tony (sans the 20 inning game). Perhaps it is the set outfield, set rotation that is healthy, set bullpen. Tony has very little to tinker with. The urge to grab the controls of the jumbo jet, turn off the auto pilot and fly the mother f’er just builds up thereby ejecting crazy Tony bursts out of shadows. God love crazy Tony.
by jjray on May 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
crazy tony only comes out in dire situations
re-adjust your sample. he’s come out every time it’s been close. bunt for base hit. double-switches. it’s not a promising pattern, and one hopes it’s just to plant the seeds early in the season.
just look at how many relievers have come up to bat. and they keep saying “it rarely ever happens” when i think only the LOOGYs have not had a PA.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Not that Whitey ever let his relievers hit...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
heh heh
you gotta admit, Tony’s going through them at an impressive clip. talk about finding something new to tinker with…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
K-Mac
Is it just me or is he starting to resemble Franklin more and more in appearance?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 11:26 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
they will all eventually morph into the same person
notice Jason Motte as well
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
In facial hair?
Franklin
15.1IP 16H 0BB! 8K 1HBP 1.043WHIP 0 BB/9 4.7 K/9 1.04 GB/FB 20% LD 70% Strikes. 13% Swinging strikes
K-Mac
16.1IP 12H 7BB! 15K 1HBP 1.163WHIP 3.9 BB/9 8.3 K/9 .60GB/FB 18% LD 60% strikes
16% swinging strikes
Looks pretty different to me. Franklin is allowing more hits but isn’t walking anyone and isn’t getting any strike outs. Most of his outs come on ground ball. He is also giving up a higher LD%. McClellan isn’t getting hit as often, or as hard, when he isn’t getting many ground balls this year either. (has been around 1.00 GB/FB his last two years). However, he is getting a lot more strikeouts than Franklin, slightly higher Swing and misses. I think the strike outs are because of that nasty curve ball.
Yes, in physical appearance.
Also, the feeling of dread I get when he is brought in. That said, I had the feeling K-Mac was striking out more batters this year. As you point out, he is, which is good. Now, if he could reduce his walks, I would be pleased.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
as far as
Franklin and McClellan being the same person with different personas…
I can not answer that. I can only say that your concerns are not unfounded. My inquires with the MO department of conservation about inconsistencies with the Cardinal’s Bullpen and hunting licenses was meet with resistance. Something about best customers and luggage. The officer didn’t really make much sense but I was told in no unclear tone to leave well enough alone.
I did recently receive a letter from a “Mr. I” in Brighton IL. Subj: The truth about the Cardinal bullpen. It told me that the truth lies in the motorized Cooler. However; I have not yet had time to further investigate that lead….
by Evilfrog on May 15, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
why no recs?!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This needs a caption.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I'm afraid I have been digging to deep. It's may be the last time you hear from me in awhile.
I’ve received the flight manifest from the Cardinals recent trip to Pennsylvania. Both McClellan and Franklin were on the manifest. However, one name that stood out was a “Marty Pagnozzi”. This was curoius because there is no Marty Pagnozzi on the Cardinals. I checked with my sources down town and they found two records of a Marty Pagnozzi. One was as a financial backer for the construction of Alton Masonic Temple. The other was with a Bookie out in Sin City. The bookie was a little too quick to respond to my inquiry. Apparently Marty Pagnozzi has A LOT of money tied up in a 10,000 : 1 odds bet on all of the Cardinal Relievers getting a Plate Appperance this season.
Could Marty Pagnozzi really be bullpen Couch “Marty the Mason?” And could he be influencing Tony to bat his relievers in order to win a bet and restore the Masonic Temple and Increase the once strong Mason presence in the larger St. Louis area?
I know this finding doesn’t lead me any closer to the Franklin-McClellan mystery yet I feel they are corrected. And the further down the Rabbit hole I get the madder the plot gets. I must go now. Miss Lucy again lost a lot of blood night and the Doctor and it is my turn to give my blood in this transfusion. Hopefully soon we can find cure this disease.
by Evilfrog on May 15, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Do you frequent the Cards Talk forums
on the P-D site, and if you do, are you familiar with a Gore Vidal-like poster with the handle of “Moxie”?
by Michael_68_1999 on May 15, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i was thinking this same exact thing the past couple weeks
and i just thought i was going crazy. glad to see i wasn’t.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
will I get my wish and have an all-socks team?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
1940s
Those Cardinals uniforms are the most beautiful uniforms ever worn in baseball history. And if anyone disagrees, I will fight them.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Mitchell & Ness sells the '44 Musial version.
I’m not saying I would literally kill and rob a person to be able to afford the $325 tag, I’m just saying I would strongly consider it.

by mattyp on May 15, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No jury would convict you.
Well, none in the StL area at least.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm..well I know I couldn't count on Spant's not guilty vote
she wouldn’t even show up for duty
by mattyp on May 15, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
When you have a habit of stabbing people,
the last place you want to be is in a room with officers of the law.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
one of my fav shirts of all time was a coopers town musial
that looked just like this…except it was a $60 one….I wore it until it literally looked like it came from the 40s.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
I own it.
But, I have never worn it for fear that I would besmirch it. Same thing goes for my authentic 80s O. SMITH home Jersey and my 1987 O. SMITH Mitchell & Ness away Jersey.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on May 15, 2010 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would totally play in it
in a beer league softball game.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
That is a work of art!
Art, I tell you!
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 15, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
I didn’t know they played with zippers?
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 15, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineups
Cardinals
Rasmus CF
Ludwick RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Freese 3B
Molina C
Schumaker 2B
Waino P
Boog SS
Reds
Cabrera SS
Phillips 2B
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Bruce RF
Gomes LF
Stubbs CF
Hernandez C
Leake P
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
Still 4 hours to game time
let’s not count unhatched chickens just yet, eh?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Where did you find this?
Just curious.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
ended up finding it on gameday
but i tweeted you that, so i guess it’s redundant now.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
prediction:
boog goes 3-4 with two doubles, one single, and 4 RBIs.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 15, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i pretty much know i will
i’m just hoping more than anything. i REALLY want to see boog start hitting. as much for his own personal benefit as the team’s benefit.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 15, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
10 run Saturdays?
Leake’s been impressive. Hope he gets an ump who squeezes him.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 15, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
he started out a little shaky his first 2 starts
with 12 bb’s, but only 5 in his last 4 starts. also 11-1 gb/fb outs last game. looks like a guy dunc would appreciate.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's got good control but his fb has lots of movement. an ump with a tight strikezone might be tough on him.
if the strike zone is big, we’re probably in some trouble.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 15, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
bravo tom
“tony instead is like the guy who drives a fork through the palm of his own hand in the lunch line and then uses the still-stuck-in-his-hand fork* to try to stab the biggest, baddest guy in the lunch room. the logic behind this tactic being that, regardless of whether he is successful, he will develop the rep of being completely insane and unpredictable.”
great mental image. tony in the pen, stabbing his own hand, then attacking someone. got to keep them off guard! crazy like a fox, tony
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions
well
at least he kind of messes with the other team’s manager, making them overmanage too
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
i found out what
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Jaime Garcia is amazing
I love watching that kid pitch, one of the cincy announcers compared him to Johan Santana last night. he is in almost total control of his game, and that slider just makes guys look BAD sometimes. I wanted to check on how he’s doing right now after that start:
4th in the majors in ERA
2nd on the Cardinals in FIP behind Wainwright
2nd on the Cardinals in xFIP behind Carp
1st on the Cardinals in WPA
2nd in tERA on Cards to Waino
btw, why is tERA on fangraphs not in the leader boards for pitchers? it’s only on the individual pitcher listings
btw, Lohse’s tERA is 4.03, not too bad really
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
ah
I guess we are still awaiting an update on that feature of tERA
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/tra-changed-to-tera/
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Cubs have now lost all 5 against the Pirates this season.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
that flag looks awesome.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
@zoomzoomj88
Revive the stache, Boog.
I have a super hot friend that's a cubs fan
And I totally wanna do her on this flag.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on May 15, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
just tell her it stands for Lady
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
do they sell this flag?
i would totally hang this in my room.
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
though i suppose it
wouldn’t be all that difficult to make…
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
if you buy the flag from the cubs
you would either be helping them win
or subsidizing their continuing collapse
so … I’d just make it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 15, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
if i'm helping them sign another soriano
then… well… idk
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
yeah it's just hard to say
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i want to be optomistic that they are turnign the corner
so i hope that they continue to show life tonight..
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
game thread is set for 5:30 cdt.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on May 15, 2010 4:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 6 recs
i'm going to rec this so people know what's up.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 15, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll rec it but only because of the correct usage of CDT
by jd is legend on May 15, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
true story
i just realized a few weeks ago why sometimes it’s CT and sometimes it’s CDT. i used to use CDT all the time. now i know not to.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 15, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
eh
some people use CT as well.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 15, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like i started a trend.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 15, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
totally recd
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
can't decide which game to watch right now
sf vs houston
tampa vs seattle
philly vs milwaukee
I think I’ll watch san fran cuz timmeh is pitching
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
blacked out!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
watching the rocks/ubaldo
tornado warnings keep interrupting the broadcast from denver.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
actually on-topic
here’s Leach’s take in his chess match
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He doesn't even...
discuss the merits of bunting in general. And who cares if you “burn” a PH? That’s what they’re there for. We all remember the 15 inning games when we run out of position players, but those are outliers. He should manage as if the game will go 10, 11, 12…
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
My biggest problem with the move is, well, the sacrifice bunt aspect.
But past that, there’s no even attempting to fool the Reds into thinking you may not bunt when you send a reliever in to do the job.
You can read it in any tone you like.
which leads us back to the conspiracy theory of relievers taking BP.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the mather pinch hit PA for colby against rhodes wasn't a big deal in and of itself
the decision to bunt was stupid. the whole bench was available – send stav or greene or whoever up there to hit away.
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 15, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
but
I agree but I was also concerned about removing Colby’s defense; and sure enough a looper drops in front of the fresh Mather in CF in the bottom of the inning, a play Colby might have made. Not ragging Joey’s defense, just that if you haven’t been playing in the field for 8 innings, reading the ball off the bat is maybe just enough different.
no, i agree that I would not have PH for colby in that situation -
perhaps if the runner was at 2nd base and all you needed was a single to score a run or if there were less than two outs – I don’t know. I just think the primary dumb decision was to bunt, regardless if it was with Boggs or not. (hitting and bunting are two different skills and Boggs may be a champion bunter for all i know; I just hate bunting with a man on first and no outs)
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 15, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd have used greene
just to keep the bunt option open after letting him have a hack first. if the defense moves back, he might even beat it out, or force an error. to say you wouldn’t burn a bench-player in the 9th with a 2-run lead makes no sense when all five are available, or at least four if you consider mather was going to bat anyway.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
got phils crew in the background
Jimmy tweaked his hip
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
or rib/oblique or something. during the at-bat.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
The announcer said Edmonds has always been "a bit of a thespian."
You can read it in any tone you like.
Acting!
Or is that “Selling!” ?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 15, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
hollywood
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm kinda surprised that 56 people think that Lohse will finish the season in the bullpen
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 6:09 PM EDT reply actions
good chance if you consider playoffs
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that's true
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Lincecum is just outrageous...
I guess we have to forget about Cardinal Cy Young winners until Lincecum retires or his arm falls off or whatever..
I want the Walrus back...
He wasn't very sharp today.
Poor command, velo was down. Still only 4 hits and 1 run in 8. I mean…Astros, but….
he wasn't real sharp against us, judging him against himself
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, I was at that game
He looked like shit, had no idea where the ball was going. Didn’t matter, still dominated.
Obviously he's still fine now
But at 88-93 he’s on the verge of losing enough velo to really make it hard to be dominant. Even 87-91 would make it tough to beat people with your FB.
Not afraid to nitpick
ubaldo also will make it difficult
he and timmy both born in 1984. never knew that timmy was filipino-american.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Can't forget Halladay.
Even if he doesn’t have the best peripherals by year end, he’ll likely have the inning lead, and a nice win total to go with the east coast media focus.
i was talking more going forward
with timmy and ubaldo going to be around awhile.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Fair enough.
I hear the Nats have a young guy with potential, as well. Marlins have some guys who aren’t exactly old, and could put it together, too, in Johnson/Nolasco.
can't wait to see strasburg
full-count, bases loaded to matsui, 13 pitches so far, 4 fouls in a row.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, it's crazy.
15 pitch at bat, bases loaded, down 2-1 in the 9th, 2 outs. Crazy shit.
Wilson did what Wison does, though. He’s even more Franklin, than Franklin.
Houston has them loaded in SF
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
that was an epic at bat by matsui
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 15, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
9 pitches fouled off
wow
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
ATG
Pitch #1 was not a strike. Ump called it a strike.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
giants radio announcer said the second or third to last pitch was high
but matsui fouled it off.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

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