Game 34 Overflow
by the red baron on May 12, 2010 10:00 PM EDT
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1 Hit, We had one goddamn hit?!
‘You cant say goddamn on the air!’
‘Ah, no one’s listenin’ anyway’
Thus spoke Zarathustra!
It's not over yet.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on May 12, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Trever Miller's mustache is gone
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on May 12, 2010 10:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
yeah, it's bizarre
and even worse with that dugout camera still messed up
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
don't forget that all of the runs are pure
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
all rise
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you may be seated
dangit Danny Mac. announce the game.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
so if Albert obviously is the executive branch...
and Jay is the judicial branch… who is the legislative branch? Reyes?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
Carp
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
s'true... hmmm.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that Carp is the black ops wing of the CIA
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wait. it's Yadier
he has his own commandment.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha
Carpenter’s commandment:
“Thou shalt not give a fuck”
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought it was self-referential
and we just follow his example
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
well... as much as I love Chris (and fear him too)
I don’t believe that he has achieved the ability to give commandments…
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
oh are you saying Yadi commandeth him to not give a fuck?
I think Carp figured that for himself….
Yadi it is
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sampson got married in the circus tent?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
festive!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when scoring 5 runs
was more than enough for our pitching staff?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I can't believe we have 5 freaking hits
its almost comical
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
ludwick!
ryan f’n ludwick!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
Ryan F. Ludwick doesn't care about team woes.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I can't believe we have 6 freaking hits
it’s almost comical
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
does the pope shit in the woods?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
i have no idea actually
I don’t think that “extra” is an apt adjective when it comes to shannon being wasted
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert does a "Strike? Huh."
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there is no more pie
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He can't hit a HR to save his life
/GOB
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
GOBS?
(clears throat)
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:28 PM EDT reply actions
sigh
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
you did a first-pitch 'are you there GOBs'
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i did?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
don't call attention to yourself
they’re on a roll
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
my bad
I’ll go kill one of my cats to try and make up for my transgression
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, the cats are in on it!
just don’t look at your cats
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but one of my cats is named colby!!!!
it must be the other one
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
don't make eye contact
or talk to— oh, it’s named colby? never mind.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont even know where he is
i think that the thunder and lightning scare him
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
doh!!!!
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
sooooooo Albert is running funny
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he tweaked his knee running to first yesterday
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
this is depressing
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
he fell over on that one play too...
babip giveth... and babip taketh away
by purple_haze on May 12, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
bert fall down.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
who told you that
did he have a trench coat
was there a van
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Dingers will come in the bottom of the ninth
For maximum WPA awesomeness.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
this is what we call GOB tempting.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well reverse jinxes have been killing us lately
Or maybe I’m just Boog-ing it and changing my approach too quickly
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
remember this all started with a triple jinx.
don’t expand your zone
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
This fox trax is distracting
and I have no idea how to contextualize 16" of break. . .
Think; It's not illegal yet.
16" of break
is the equivalence of saying, “My fastball goes 76 leagues per lunar month.” I have no idea what that means relative to the rest of the sample population or if it’s good/bad.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
he prefers batting third
should have gotten that in the contract.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I know this is not a good time...
But can someone tell me what Brenden’s walkup song is… my friends are driving me crazy…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
some remix of check yourself before you wreck yourself
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
one of the reporters tweeted the confirmation on that, recently.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks guys!
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
lol cardinals
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that's what i assumed
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
it's 4-4 on earned runs, fwiw
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
who's the culprit?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Boog had another 2 error game,
and Lohse proceeded to blow up for 4 (i think) unearned.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wow
get well soon floppy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
basically a replay of last night
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
to some it does
certainly the pitcher
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'll agree to a point,
but all he had to do was get an out. Lohse is enough of a pro (as is Penny) that they could have not started throwing BP, and basically look like they gave up.IMDO
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
i don't disagree
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and i should add
this is why i think garcia’s ability goes beyond what any pitch f/x or radar guns can determine – under adversity, dude is cool as a cucumber. as far as i am concerned, in any playoff situation, he’s number 3.
what does the D stand for in IMDO?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it was 9-2
so, at least we are closer now
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
this isn't even worth battline the proxy business
i’ll just listen
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
that's right. it's Ryan F. Ludwick. hands up and stay where you are.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Larue blocks the ball with his face and it doesn't even matter
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
the pitch looked pretty interesting on gameday
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
LaRue got chucked in the mask
loud.
good thing he feels no pain.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Larue is probably like Happy Gilmore in the batting cage
he likes it
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
when yadi is on your team
you savor every second of playing time
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
faceblock
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
that's the one
and a bounce, too
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
ARGH
If Dan can’t do more than parrot from the fox trax output, take it away from him. All it does is confuse viewers and provide a false sense of understanding.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
your first mistake was listening to the booth.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't have a radio and I'm usually trying to write while I watch the ball game.
If I don’t have the sound on, I miss the wild exclamations by Dan that usually indicate a ball is out near the track.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
really?
I don’t have a radio
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
btw, it's not your lack of a radio that surprises me
it’s the fact that you think you need the radio
fwiw, though, it’s hard to get ktrs and fsmw synced up
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't think it's illegal
toadonalump.com
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
it's awesome when you can sync up
the ball hitting the mitt.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
In my car I do, obviously.
But if I want to listen in my apartment, I stream the radio. Can’t stream cardinal broadcasts though and I don’t feel the need to have a radio just for KTRS.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
And Dan and Al are officially muted.
Hello, Mr. Shannon and Mr. Rooney. So nice to hear you.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I also do not have
a molecular recombinator, teleporter, holodeck or the video of that night I slept with your mom.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on May 12, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec
what happened to the video, or did it never exist?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
On a big game,
tune in early, or theres a way to force it with vlc.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
All it does is confuse viewers and provide a false sense of understanding.
Is this not the absolute perfect description of Al Hrabosky?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I prefer to complain about Al on good nights
Tonight it just feels like piling on.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
Holliday catches it. onward....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Now Score Some Runs, Damnit!
… please?
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
A big comeback
could really change the momentum for this team.
The eventual letdown will be business as usual this month.
by PeterStork670 on May 12, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
they'll challenge in the ninth and fall just short
that’s business as usual
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Prescient.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on May 13, 2010 12:12 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Wilton Lopez
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Is it odd that I just realized that Freese's walkup song starts with the lyrics...
‘Freezin’, rests his head on a pillow made of concrete’?
Thus spoke Zarathustra!
so Freese gets his first out-at-first boos?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the centerfield camera is not really into being *centered*
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that was frickin' fast.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the man did just take a 90mph shot to the face
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
plead with the gobs on one knee, stav
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
"and the cards get ready for bud..... bud norris"
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:47 PM EDT reply actions
and the cards get ready to get swept by....by the astros*
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
being swept at home by the astros might be worse than being swept on the road by the pirates
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
who's pitching for us tomorrow, btw
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
who's pitching tomorrow, carp?
my money’s still on carp.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they cross out Rick Horton with the light pen
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
heh heh heh
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
4 earned runs guys
4
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
lots of walks tonight
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm most concerned over that one
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
it's been the defense that has killed us this whole week
very few earned runs.
You spend a good piece of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time.
yup
gotta play d
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
strasburg - 6 innings, left with no-hitter intact
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 12, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
he'll be fun to watch
couple weeks, how much longer do they have to hold him out?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
still plenty of time for ROY
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Ryan F. Ludwick
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
wow, Al... are you bitter or something?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he's starting to look kinda like colonel sanders
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
i saw that the other day
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
like a cross between colonel sanders and kenny rogers
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
GOOD LORD AL
Dan: what happened?
Al: He died
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:52 PM EDT reply actions
that is *not* a punchline, Hrabosky!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I cannot remember the name
some guy in montreal i think
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a bizarre little thingy
who the hell died?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Colby in for Boog
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
how many we get here?
put up a fight?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
5
F*ck you GOBS…. I’m calling it
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
he was fine in pitt wasn't he?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, nobody wants excuses at this level
he may have gotten a talking to after that, but you gotta get over it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'm just bitter
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
plz
take some pitches
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:54 PM EDT reply actions
just talking in general
I don’t like first pitch swinging
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
that was less useful than a Boog PA
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well you got your wish
he’s also showing bunt.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
good job skip
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions
Well at least it's a lil interesting now.
RFL!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Mr. RFL in the hizzy tonight!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 10:59 PM EDT reply actions
.986 OPS, 25 rbis
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, well I'd much rather have Prince Fielder! Oh wait...
Ryan Howard! Oh wait…
Mark Tex…
Nevermind, not a good year for other 1B’s…
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
looking at that, imagine the numbers albert could put up
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
His stats and Holliday's don't look bad on paper
But you can’t have the same confidence in them to deliver – particularly Pujols – that there was just a couple weeks ago. But that hit felt good.
by PeterStork670 on May 12, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
particularly Holliday
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
There is less confidence in Matt
But I had less (not none, just less) in him to begin with.
by PeterStork670 on May 12, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
good times
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, stats in a vacuum mean little
much was done in a time frame that has lapsed
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
drama
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
have pujols and holliday ever gone back to back?
by Willie McGee's Twin on May 12, 2010 11:00 PM EDT reply actions
milwaukee?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
don't blame you
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I hate it when I have hope so late in the game...
It is tough to be let down…
"I don't like to sound egotistical, but every time I stepped up to the plate with a bat in my hands, I couldn't help but feel sorry for the pitcher." Rogers hornsby.
by pattimagee on May 12, 2010 11:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
my advice to you is to start drinking heavily
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh, whoever said that we would put up a fight and fall just short...
you make me mad.
Thus spoke Zarathustra!
well, i mean
that’s what they do
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a quick death for Holliday.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
i heard a foreplay joke like this inning
I can’t quite remember it rightly, so I’ll leave that to others.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
freakin holli
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions
It's all because of Lohse.
Definitely the worst pitcher on this team, all this game did was prove that again. I don’t see why you don’t get his ass down to Memphis. Let’s get Boggs or McClellan in the rotation, anybody but Lohse.
you fuckin' kiddin' me dawg?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
okay
well, i disagree. i like to put the best starters in the rotation because i am good at smart
maybe boggs would be better at making the defense good than lohse, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Lohse is not one our best starters.
Instead of basically ensuring a loss every time he pitches, let’s go experiment with somebody like Boggs or McClellan to at least give us a chance at winning.
break down some film some time
and glance at some numbers – this might give you a different perspective.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't care about numbers in the past.
Kyle Lohse isn’t pitching well right now, that’s a fact. It’s time to at least explore some other options until he can figure out what he’s doing on the mound.
2 starts ago is too far in the past for your attention?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
what past am i talking about?
even in philly he pitched ok.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he's effectively our 5th starter
and he’s fine for a 5th starter right now (except his paycheck of course). Almost every team in the league is in the same position with the 5th spot in the rotation. You expect some runs, hope he can go 6 and keep you in the game, and then depend on your offense to ultimately win the game. For the most part, Lohse has done that.
boggs was experimented with back in 2008
and management figured he was better for the pen
as for mcclellan, welll i don’t really know what to say
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 12, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
kyle lohse has made 7 starts
i will pick four at random*
6 IP, 4 ER
7 IP, 2 ER
6 IP, 3 ER
7 IP, 1 ER
this guy guarantees a loss every time
*not actually at random
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
how did he not win either of those 7 IP games
did the bullpen blow it? i feel like if he was 2-2 with same ERA, FIP, he wouldn’t be ripped on as much
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 12, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
runs allowed?
same as ER for those starts
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
these last two starts are the only ones where he's had unearned runs
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
well, of course not
i’m disputing the claim that when he pitches it’s a guaranteed loss, when in fact he’s had quite good results in more than half his starts
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
you can't watch the philly game
pitch for pitch, and think he didn’t have terrible luck. a ball fell in center because of where colby was, a ball fell in front of holliday because he misread it, and howard dinked a ball thru for two unearned runs because we shift differently. a ball thru freeze’s legs, a throw apu muffed from short, and a wind-blown homer with 2 outs and 2 strikes on an excellent pitch to werth…guys can get frustrated. funny everyone gives boog a break for it, but the guy whose frustration he caused tonite gets no slack.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if boog keeps string errors together
i think his breaks will be harder to come by
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not calling for him to get dissed either
just saying, we were flat tonite, and it was a total team effort, and boog is obviously much better than the last few games, or the season, but when he’s not having fun, it’s the total opposite, and it’s uncomfortable right now. it affects others around him, much as k-bot did, and i’m not suggesting they have anything else in common except shortstop, but something needs to happen.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
sorry to interrupt your being reactionary with my facts, though
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess
didn’t get the wellemeyer comparison… with welleymeyer, i knew we were going to lose [if we didn’t score 5 runs]
i don’t get that feeling with lohse
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
hey, in earned runs we won
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Just write down that comment, step away, and come back in a little bit
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
seriously
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
it's all because of errors and walks, really
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
more walks and hits
than errors, and i have a problem with pros being such pansies when something goes wrong. i’ll defend lohse on his stuff, his bad luck, but i will not defend how he reacts to teammates screwing up – it’s a bummer, but does not give you a free pass. this is not something new, and goes some ways towards explaining his problems from the stretch.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you know... quite honestly
I really was not diggin the thought of the holliday contract but I was excited to watch him hit behind albert… this has absolutely sucked so far… oh and F*ck you Kyle Lohse
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions
that was a bit harsh
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
definitely
by the same token you’d ride boog out of town.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i dont really get the impression about boog struggling as i do lohse
sorry for my rashness
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
well, lohse had a better fip than carp
so his struggling may be overblown. you don’t have the impression boog is struggling? a blame game isn’t really conducive to a team game is all i’m saying. lohse did not pitch well by any stretch of the imagination, but there were some extenuating circumstances.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
im not at all saying that boog isn't struggling
I don’t know… I’m irrationally assigning concern to boog and not to Lohse
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I really want Holliday to bat second and Ludwick cleanup (if Albert is not allowed to hit cleanup)
oh and, Lohse is on our team, support him
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i know i know
im just frustrated
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
On that note,
I understand your frustration. This guy is getting paid to hit and drive runs in. It starts to get worrisome. Especially when facing a team with Carlos Lee in it…
I want the Walrus back...
thank you
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
because of a bogus HR rate
He’s generating the lowest GB% since 2003 and the worst K:BB ratio since 2004. He’s not pitching well; all the peripherals are headed in the wrong direction.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
So for once, we should trust
ESPN-ish stats and not sabermetrics? I agree with you, he is struggling. It is the same case made yesterday about Penny. I know it is frustrating when errors are made behind you, but you have to bear down and get those outs. Cannot say he pitched well but had bad defense behind him when he gives up 10+ hits
I want the Walrus back...
ick no.
I think they eyes have it with this kind of a sample size. Lohse isn’t hitting spots and his peripherals are down. If someone really wants a stat to look at right now, I’d go with xFIP or tRA* to take out some of luck Lohse has had.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
those would be the worst stats to look at
not only do they include all the noise that come with any stats, but they include extra batted ball classification noise
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you been watching Lohse?
He looks terrible. The only reason you can quote his HR is because balls haven’t gone for homeruns. From what I’ve seen, that’s completely luck and not at all a function of how he’s pitching right now.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I must admit
he did look pretty bad tonight. but he wouldn’t have had THAT bad an outing if it weren’t for some errors. he definitely needs to hit the reset button and figure out what he is doing wrong though
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He simply looks flat
and control-lacking. He had said something about problems with his delivery after that one good outing he had.
I want the Walrus back...
well, against philly he was certainly unlucky
and another two errors that game. i won’t see tonight’s game till a bit later, so i can’t say.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i wasn't able to watch him tonight
he was bad in philly and arizona. the other nights he’s looked good. even better than the QS status would imply. his first start his season would be a good example of him hitting his spots and not getting calls
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
His command has been spotty.
Fewer first pitch strikes, fewer swinging strikes, fewer groundballs. . . it’s not just one peripheral in the wrong direction, it’s a bunch.
I’ve been an ardent defender of Lohse. I still think he belongs in the rotation. I still think the contract was defensible at the time. But he looked disengaged tonight and I don’t think he’s got everything worked out right now.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
like i said, i wasn't able to watch him tonight
might have a different opinion if i had. but in all his other starts, i haven’t seen a whole lot that makes me panicky about a 5th starter. or even a third starter. i imagine he’ll come around and end up average or better by the end of the year. which is worth the contract. not a bargain, just plain market value
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You are right
that first outing was simply ridiculous. Seemed like he was pitching to Eddie Gaebbel (sp?)
I want the Walrus back...
Eddie Gaedel
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
or break down film
a wind-blown homer in philly and one off the foul pole (according to shannon) tonite. the bomb off jaime by utley went foul on review. also, an understanding of positioning is also helpful. basically, if you do not watch a game, and only look at numbers, you can be very deceived. you have to match them up to understand.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
um
He’s generating the lowest GB% since 2003 and the worst K:BB ratio since 2004
exactly? he’s also tied for a career high FIP. it all seems a little fluky to me
do i think he’s pitching like a 3.30 guys? no, but he’s damn sure not pitching like a 5.68 guy, either
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
career high BABIP*
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
which isn't out of line with his batted ball profile.
If you allow 20% line drives and no HRs, you’re going to have a BABIP around .320-.330.Lohse is only a touch above that.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
he's given up 2 homers
one in the wind, and one, with any luck like jaime had, goes foul.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well, yeah
kind of
his LD% is pretty much exactly career average. when his other batted ball types normalize, so should his BABIP and his ERA, etc should follow. i’m really not concerned
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Holliday is killing me
no home runs since sept. 09. 3 guys get on and he swings at the first pitch! WTF!
well then good for him, he's living the American dream
geting paid millions to suck at your job. I can only dream…
okay
who the fuck left the gate at the P-D boards open this time?
yadi2? chitown? someone fess up
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Had that been a weak pop-up/grounder... OK... but it was a stinging liner
No fault there. That’s why you get people on base with 0 outs. Shit is going to happen.
"If I'm in a slump, I ask myself for advice" - Ichiro
it was right down the middle
He wasn’t going to get a better pitch, and he hit a solid line drive. one time out of four, at best, a line drive is going to be caught.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Had it got down,
it would have probably been a 2 run double.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm getting fed up as well
but I think he usually has pretty slow starts, and he seems to have had a number of minor injuries that coul be holding him back, and some bad luck with hitting it right at guys
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
i still have a special feeling about this team
as frustrating as it is… there is too much damn talent on this team to be concerned long term… I was out of line earlier with my condemnation of Lohse… I still feel like this team is going to get going and leave the rest of the division in the dust sooner than later
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
if we don't do well this year
throw all the stat projection systems out the window, basically
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
good to hear
on that note i need to head to bed
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ha
i do that anyway. but doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know how much better we are than the division.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hah..I've been on this site too long
I read “I’m getting fed up” and all i could think was “fucked up,” like drunk, or pissed somehow maybe. It took like 6 passes to realize he was just spelling a word.
quit smoking crack
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, just 44 oz of red bull in the last 4 hours or so
have an exam worth..oh, 100% of my grade tomorrow at 9Am that I’m totally unprepared for.
same difference ;)
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
im ashamed to admit it
but my TI89 was the greatest money i ever spent in college
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
cheating? yeah, I'm an old pro with that trick
but this ain’t the kind of thing you can cheat on. In fact I can bring in all the notes I want. Doesn’t get you a good grade.
what class is the test for?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
er, Consitutional Law
unless I can fit 200 years of supreme court jurisprudence in my pants I think I’m SOL
on the upside, I've read enough case law
to tell you which supreme court justices over the last 50 years or so are totally full of shit. Wanna know? All of them!
/equal offender politics
Tony is surprisingly un-surly tonight.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
what'd he say
we battled?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Basically he's answering questions with full, real answers instead of being post-loss snippy.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Tony: Yadi pulled so that he could play in the day game tomorrow.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:14 PM EDT reply actions
move Luddy back to an RBI spot!!!!!
do it already!!! he’s a run producer.
Milt Thompson FTW!
swap Luddy and Holli
do it!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
This would mean
Holliday gets a ton more strikes. Can’t see him struggling more when being meatballed
I want the Walrus back...
I seriously hope they move him to the 2 spot
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok... so I'm trying to find some comfort and peace of mind here...
You sabrmetric guys can help me out (cause im not as familar to the advanced stats as you guys are)… from what I’m reading and hearing so far in this thread.. Lohse is due to regress positively to the mean…. holliday and pujols have to regress positively to the mean… things can only get better right?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:24 PM EDT reply actions
things will always get better in the long run
but Keynes said we’re all dead in the long run, so take it fwiw
but then again, he died in 1946
so he never really understood how crappy it feels to lose two games in a row to the Houston Astros.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
he had no idea of the pain
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
40 HR quiz was posted earlier, but....
try thinking of every All-Star in 15 minutes in the 2000s
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
not as bad as it sounds
but it does sound pretty freaking impossible
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 12, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Sporcle is great
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on May 12, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Lohse: I wasn't very good
I left a lot up. Can’t put away guys with two strikes.
Everything feels fine, just a matter … of execution.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions
i ain't watchin'.
man, i’m still not over nlds in l.a.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
freakin nlds sucked
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Boogspeak: Two tough ones today, but I don't feel anything different.
I know first hand it wasn’t the easiest play in the world, but whatever.
I know what I’m capable of with the glove. Just one of those things.
I could have been 1 for 3 today…
I get frustrated, of course, everyone does, but I don’t take it out to the field.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:40 PM EDT reply actions
Overall, more optimistic than I was expecting.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
so did rick just say that ozzie got upset that he used brendan and ozzie in the same sentence?
or did i hear that wrong?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:44 PM EDT reply actions
Oquendo got "upset".
Or at least gave Horton trouble for it.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
this
this is old news. mid to late last year
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
ah
i gotcha
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
horton-filter
I’ve heard Ozzie’s actual interviews, and he’s more circumspect than that. he does say that Boog is really good.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
off to bed
Good thing that Carpenter doesn’t give a fuck that he is facing bud norris tomorrow
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on May 12, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions
Slur It!
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
VEB: WWGTD
by The Continental on May 12, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions
by the way, nice link.
I approve
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 12, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i know
i’m a big stick in the mud when it comes to memes. but if i ever get like that, someone just take me out back and get it over with
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 12, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
...like behind the junior high?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 13, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
or a hardware store
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 13, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
kinda kinky.... to each their own
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 13, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Brett Wallace
leading all of PCL in HRs and RBIs…. I`ll say it again…
I want the Walrus back
I want the Walrus back...
wow
that really caps off the night.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
for a lot fewer quetzales
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Multiply the dollars by
around 8.4 and that is the quetzales. A lot indeed
I want the Walrus back...
not for wallace as compared to hollidaisy
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
vexed needs to do some kind of pic
where dewitt is calling holliday “my precious”
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
hitters league, MLEs still don't look great
didn’t have a spot here (but you can always at least try to stick someone in LF, right?). I dunno, its just way too early to judge and realsitically it doesn’t seem like the FO saw him the Cardinals future, so they did what they did.
they did
it was safer, for sure. it would have been bold to put walrus and craig in left, and mo is not known to be bold. that could get him fired, but ownership had to sign off on holliday, and that absolves him right there.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
also, i wish that overbay would hit enough to trade him
by the time we play toronto, so we could see walrus. he’s basically just waiting on this to happen. dude can rake.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Actually,
I read an article saying that the FO will not rush him. The plan is for Wallace to stay in Vegas the entire year since they think Overbay will bounce back. So, his ETA will probably be 2011, barring an injury or freak accident.
I want the Walrus back...
it wouldn't be rushing him
that’s FO speak there. they need to get something for overbay, and just hope he hits enough to bring back some value in a trade. at a point, if it doesn’t happen, i suspect they’d just cut him and bring the walrus up.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Just send our prospects to hit in the thin western air
and they’ll look artificially better too.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
he'll hit anywhere
great bat.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ha, i still love watching eck
pads winning again, and he’s always in the middle of things.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
pads are looking good
they are playing some serious hardball right now
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i like the overachievers
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
fundamentally sound baseball can lead to overachieving
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
[weep]
I was holding it together till now!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 13, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
please save us, carp!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
not a huge fan....
still can’t believe he A) made ASG in 2005 B) won WS MVP over Scotty….
oh well, the little guy wins most of the time when it comes to fan vote (CASE A: Nate Robinson)
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
we could use him right now
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'll wait till the end of the year
and then i doubt we’ll be saying the same thing
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
well, getting lopex back will help
and giving greene a shot. i think schu will come around, though.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well if schu bats .280-.290 with a OBP around .360 then great
and I’d rather have Greene than Eckstein at short right now…. Boog needs some days off right now
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
eck plays second
but yes, i want greene at short
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
eck played short for us
maybe that factors into my dislike…. 2B playing SS with no arm
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
well, he's a second baseman now
and that’s where i was talking about.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
right
lopez, schu > Eck
now of course Eck is playing better, but i still have my doubts schu won’t pick it up
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
thus the "right now"
in reference to eck. yes, lopex shall return.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hi kids
whenever you want to think about how bad watching those games was, at least you can be thankful you weren’t me and actually at those two games.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions
I dunno...
If you go to the game, you miss out of Dan and Al. Which makes it much better.
I can’t believe these days I look forward to telecasts by Jay Randolph. But I do.
i NEVER look forward to jay randolph
dan > jay. end of story.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
that was a really short story
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
kind of like your
eh, never mind.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
stay classy, fang
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
i really don't know why i just said that.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
you were being a
rhymes with nick
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
omg that's my name!
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
don't make me bust out The Grobe video
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
creeper!
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
http://popup.lala.com/popup/360569479528341424
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Please stop going to games.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
i've got tickets to next wednesday's game as well
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
the Nationals would be one game behind us
since their record is the same as the Reds
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
they are playing good ball
we can get away with this all year, but not in the playoffs.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hopefully the man stew will have simmered long enough by then
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
i hope they drain the stew by then
and start playing baseball. enough of the pom-pom squad at regionals. that’s great when you’re the underdog, like last year, but we grinded out wins last year that we had no business getting, and this year we lose games we have no business losing. last year was more enjoyable. i don’t like how tony’s done when he was the prohibitive favorite in anything, but he’s done well when he had to scratch it out. won’t be the case this year, in-division, so i’m very wary.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah
I hope this division doesn’t lull them into a trance and they sleepwalk into the playoffs. I’m getting pretty tired of our lackluster septembers. that always bothers me, gotta finish strong. hopefully this year they gel in the second half
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Sunk cost
consider Lohse sunk cost and just cut him already. He has no value unless he wants to try and play LF again.
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 12:38 AM EDT reply actions
you fuckin' kiddin' me, dawg?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on May 13, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
he likes Lohse
is the meem
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
he talks about it fairly often
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
All I know is that the Cavs lost
The Pens lost and I come home to find out Kyle Lohse turned the worst offensive team in baseball into the Bronx FREAKING BOMBERS.
Which is pretty much par for the course for this guy.
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
his FIP is pretty low
and there were a lot of unearned runs tonight. his worst attribute of the night was his walks
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
that said
he surely is the number 5 starter of our team
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
5 unearned
didn’t know you missed the game and are in a surly mood.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
unearned
the funny thing about unearned runs is that they either put a guy on base or extend an inning.
Lohse was the one that gave up the double and HR on back-to-back pitches. No defense let him down on those.
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
if they were to just drop him
who would be the best candidate to replace him, one wonders
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
they are not dropping the guy
they will make some changes, undoubtedly, but lohse isn’t going to the pen.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah
baseball is a game of adjustments. he just needs to study harder, or whatever. maybe develop a sinker.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
i'll watch the game in a bit
so i can’t comment yet on tonight’s performance, but until tonight he has been as good as 08, and that’s what he’s paid to be.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'd have to disagree there
I wouldn’t say he’s been that good this year, but he’s not been that bad either
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
well, without the bad luck you could argue
his numbers are better than 08. i mean, leading carp in fip is no small matter.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and the changes won't be with him
they will be on the field.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Why are we all talking so cryptically?
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i posted it earlier
so wasn’t trying to be cryptic. i think greene will and should get a shot.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
greene is going to pitch?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
huh?
greene will play short. although, with his arm, i suppose he could pitch.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I just don't see the context of your greene comment
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
as i said
i posted earlier that greene should get a shot. i believe it was in the day thread, and nothing has changed, except more in favor of greene getting a shot. that is the context.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I've never thought that greene is going to be a major leaguer
but I’d like to be proven wrong. personally I’d rather stick with boog because his defense is usually phenomenal. it’s just that he gets on these mental train wrecks and it affects his game.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
really... im biased as im a huge fan of greene
but he’s got a cannon for an arm with decent defensive metrics
plus he has potential to hit 15-20 HRs…. and he’s freaking fast
probably won’t ever hit for average but i’ll take the above
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that's a drastic overestimate of his power potential
and he needs to throw to first more accurately if he’s going to get a chance more often. his defense seems pretty solid but I don’t think it’s as good as ryan’s
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
well, the other day he put one on target
that apu botched, and they gave him a throwing error. this is why you have to watch the games (not being snarky) – otherwise numbers can be deceiving. he is much more highly regarded than boog, talent-wise.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I have been watching the games for the most part
I bought a full year of mlb.tv so I am trying to get my money’s worth
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
that's not fair... not as good as boog...
doesn’t mean he couldn’t be more valuable
and jw but.. “and he needs to throw to first more accurately if he’s going to get a chance more often”
what evidence do you have he doesn’t…. honest question… is he known for wild throws?
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
he's a first round pick
who we gave over a million bucks – he’ll get a shot. his upside is way beyond boog.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
like I said
I hope he proves me wrong
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
if this is cryptic, what was wcbw?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
interesting
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
sorry i missed that guy
but he was definitely not kyle lohse.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
obviously
it was great fun btw
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Didn't he return as Operacard?
That guy was as whacked-out as wcbw.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 13, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions
i am actually wcbw
or operacard i’ve heard.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you didn't know?
actually i should compile some of his stuff, because i could definitely mimic it in writing – sort of the batting stance guy of words.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think I saw some twittering speculating that you were him
but I take twitting with a grain of salt
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions
ha, that's great
and i haven’t even tried yet. i think they said he was related to lohse or something, and since i tweak everyone about their irrational hatred of lohse, they think i’m related, though i’ve never met him. i do know some cards, but not lohse.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm among the Lohse supporters
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions
as am I
i can’t even say my patience is running thin… i have confidence he’ll pick it up….
Rasmus can hit lefties
cardinalred
St. Louis Sports blog
by stlcardsfan4 on May 13, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
we are the unsilent minority?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't hate Lohse.
It’s not his fault the team over-paid him. He would’ve been an idiot to turn down that much cash. But he will never be worth that contract. I haven’t seen you say anything yet as whacked as what wcbw used to churn out on a regular basis.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 13, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I think once people stop with the
oh we’re overpaying him talk, things could get more interesting discussion-wise.
can we start saying, oh, Garcia is underpaid, that is not fair!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I suppose we could start with that Garcia is underpaid.
Except that he is bein paid what rookies are paid, fair or not. Are you going to raise the pay for every rookie? Cuz there are a lot of rookies that aren’t worth it.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 13, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm just saying that a lot of players have different output than what they are paid for
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's throw the money out of it then.
He’s been rocked pretty good once, gotten very little run support in other games, and just completely fell apart after some miscues tonite. He is what he is…a No.5 starter. he can be good, He can also suck the sweat off of a dead man’s balls.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 13, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
y'know what though
if he ends up with an ERA in the 4s I will be happy. and I think it will be more towards 4 at the end of the season and not towards 5. luckily for us, so far we don’t need him to be lights out. I am much more worried about the offense and about what is going on with boog.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I would tend to agree with you on all counts.
I have no idea what is going on with the O. Even Albert looks lost. In his case, I would have his eyes checked. Seriously. He is misjudging pitches AND throws. He’s just not seeing it well at all. They are doing everything that Mac is telling them not to do. Some of it is just luck. They are hitting the ball right at people. But they are swinging at some awful pitches too.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 13, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
albert began to concern me in philly
when he totally misjudged a throw by greene – even jumped – and the philly announcers were even perplexed. they gave greene an error, but it was an easy throw – just bizarre.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah
he’s been denied a couple wins he could’ve had, but we know that is a meaningless stat, right? although some folks seem to go both ways on it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
As an individual stat yes.
But he has gotten no run support in a couple of games, and for him that may start playing on him psychologically. Pitchers need wins to feel validated.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 13, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions
i can try, though
there is always hope. especially if i make an effort. of course, my name will give away that i’m not him, but if one would suspend disbelief…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and you can't just overlook 11 unearned runs
attributed to boog in less than a two-game span. iirc, there were 2 in the ninth against the pirates, then 4 yesterday, then 5 today, and that’s in less than an 18-inning span. um, that’s incredible.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That does suck quite a bit
I’m not absolving him of anything. But Lohse is the weakest link in the rotation and he’s not even a Suppan-esque innings eater. I’d rather go bullpen game with Boggs and Hawk both throwing 3 innings every 5th day than watch Lohse pitch another game.
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
he has been an innings eater in the past
he was in ‘08, that’s why we signed him primarily.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I think 2008 was the exception
not the rule for Lohse.
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
that is the standard argument
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm hoping he got Duncan'd
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
all we know is his only healthy year under dunc
he earned a contract that people hate. he has been healthy this year again, and pretty much the same pitcher.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well over a year of data
and tape to look at
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this refers to this:
he has been healthy this year again, and pretty much the same pitcher.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions
ok
we have what we have for sample size this year, but he’s still the same pitcher. why would one automatically think otherwise?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
of course he's the same pitcher
duh
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
well, to each his own
but lohse would go longer into games without all the errors and such that cause the pitch count to go up. he has had terrible luck with this shit in a SSS. everyone has the right to want to see who they want play, but i’ll go with the best option each day.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
last year was about a lot of freak injuries for Lohse
that’s why I’m not paying too much attention to his stats last season. once he gets into his routine, he will do well and pitch 6 or 7 innings a start and stay healthy. I just don’t think he’s gotten into his rhythm yet. same can be said for Holliday.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
well that
and, y’know, seems a little extreme to cut or demote a player who has been 2-3 WAR his whole career. he’ll be fine
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
hyperbole
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
are you saying that we should cut Holliday and have Lohse play LF?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
haha, no.
Just that it is the only way he’d have value to this team. AND WE STILL OWE HIM $23 M over the next 2 years!!!!
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm still willing to take a chance and see if he can pull a Pineiro
or mirror a Lohse ’08
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
how much do we owe holliday?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
eleventy bazillion dollars
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
how much do we owe holliday?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
+1
completely agree. three guys in the bullpen could start right now and be more effective than lohse.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
are you saying that Lohse should be sent to the bullpen?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
are you saying Lohse should be sent to the depths of hell?
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I have a Whitey Herzog quote for that
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
well, obviously someone should?
5 unearned runs does not mean we should burn boog in effigy, i hope. or even the 4 yesterday. unless carp sucks this year too? LOL at this meme, if that’s what it is.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I already went there and took care of business
no need
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
it could happen.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
but then we'd be kinda like the Cubs
no thanks
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT
azruavatar is now following me on twitter! over/under on how many hours he lasts?
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:45 AM EDT reply actions
depends on how often he actually uses that thing
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
he tweets at least once a day
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
ah
I haven’t followed him yet. I still find twitter a bit lacking in functionality
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I also don't like all the @ and # signs
seems a bit garish
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
hater
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Over the last few weeks, I've come to notice that this...
… is your simplistic sole response to any valid argument that another person presents if it is against your viewpoint.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
he's a player, I guess
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
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Try instead to discern and rebuke that aspect of its organization which allows or encourages the behavior that has provoked your displeasure.
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
yeah
who’s the hater?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
in an OT "discussion" or "argument?"
yeah. pretty much. because most of the time i’m too lazy to draw it out and it’s not like it matters.
i’ll never do that in a real baseball discussion though.
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by stlcardinalsfang on May 13, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
can't wait til they come out with a good version of facebook
that doesn’t try to sell you to advertising companies or whatever. and that works better.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
People keep throwing around his FIP
being better than Carp’s, which is only so because of the overvaluing of HRs and the fact that Carp has been tattoo’d on them early in the year. If you normalize HRs, Lohse actually is pretty terrible.
If you take a look at his xFIP, which devalues the HR rate, he’s only slightly better then 3 pitchers from this year:
- Dennys Reyes
- Joe Mather
- Felipe Lopez
by Hardcore Legend on May 13, 2010 1:59 AM EDT reply actions
That's pretty rough company there.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on May 13, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
you can play with numbers
but, in watching his pitches, what is it you are seeing, exactly?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
missing location, for one
others with more Pf/x experience should be able to tell you more about how his “stuff” has looked, and I’d be surprised if it didn’t look pretty poor.
haven't watched tonite yet
but in the philly start, he threw pretty well. i don’t need pitch f/x for that. there was a lot going on, certainly, and it affected him somewhat, but he threw pretty well.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
well, I think pf/x would be useful in terms of going back to one of
his hot streaks in 2008 and then comparing that to what his stuff looks like now. What’s the diff?
first inning could not be sharper
very impressive. one UIBB to berkman with 2 outs no one on. down, down in the zone. crisp.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
second inning the same
great stuff. the error effectively pitched around.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
stav's first ab - lol
boog – not laughing.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
third inning sharp again, though wandy got a hit and scored
bourn hit a little grounder that apu might normally get, but just missed and came up holding his leg, a little gimpy. great change to berkman for strike 2, but didn’t get a call on fastball next pitch, and walked him again on a check-swing full-count. obvious game plan – don’t let berkman do damage. lee hit a sac fly on a good pitch, and another good pitch ended the inning. so far so good.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the fatal inning
feliz leads off. fastball on 3-1 left up. single.
quintero. 2-1 count. great pitch, broken bat. error at short.
manzella. fouls off 1-2. k’s on 2-2 low sinker.
rodriguez. bunt. out at 3rd. 2 outs.
bourn. 1-2, fouled off, another good pitch down, single to center, bases loaded.
keppinger. left a ball up, hits one down the line out of reach of freeze. clears the bases. then berkman hits the pole on a mislocated pitch down and in on first pitch.
end of commentary. he made probably 3 bad pitches in the game to this point, all in one inning, paid for them all. after watching, i put a little more on boog than i did before. thru 4 lohse threw very well. keppinger’s ball couldn’t have been placed any better – if it was us batting, it was a softish liner to third.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
btw, lohse's control was very good
the walks are deceiving, since it was the game plan to pitch around berkman, and i believe he drew every walk, or maybe someone came in and walked the batter when lohse was at 1-0 i the count, which gets charged to lohse. in any event, berkman drew 4 walks.
also, shame on tony batting lohse and sending him back out in that game, but at least he realized it and acknowledged such by coming out after 1 pitch to a batter – a lot of managers wouldn’t make that statement.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
let's say he ends up with his 4.77 xFIP as his year end ERA
not that bad for a fifth starter as long as he pitches a lot of innings, I’d be happy with that
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
tERA is 3.47
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 2:06 AM EDT up reply actions
he could still settle in and be a valuable starter is all I'm sayin
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions
another take on a game:
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
recap...ryans error
i wasnt able to catch the game tonight except the cards 9th on the radio
but the guy who recapped the game on crawfishboxes said Feliz’s hit, and the errror by Ryan resulted in runs in the 4th…is incorrect it was the 2nd and no runs scored
I’d like to see the error in the 4th by Ryan, but i havent come across any vid
also after reading this thread and the standard Lohse bashing….i think our middle infield is more of a concern than lohse as a our weak link
by guillermozeliak on May 13, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
boog's second error "led" to 5 unearned in the fourth
his first error in the second inning was not a factor in the score.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
these threads would be a lot easier to read if people making contrarian statements would back them up right away
instead of dropping them there for us to stare at.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 13, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
But that would take effort.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
hahaha
no it wouldn’t
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on May 13, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes it would
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
no idea what that means
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
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