2010 Draft Preview pt. 4 - Swinging for the Fences
I'm going to try and keep this brief (or, at least, as brief as I can), because the game is an early one and I would like to get this thing up at a decent hour. That's what she said. There's no time! We are at threat level midnight!
Anyway, I'm going to cover three players today, all high schoolers, who fall squarely into that high-risk, high-reward draft demographic we always hear so much about. All three have outstanding tools of some sort that give them potentially high ceilings, but they also have a very, very long way to go and a ton of obstacles to try and avoid on the way. With the Cardinals having several early picks in this year's draft, they may be in a better position to take a risk and absorb the blow if said risk flames out. Then again, they went aggressive taking Shelby Miller with their first round selection last year; I'm not sure if that will have any effect one way or the other on this year's iteration. Time will tell, of course.
I honestly don't have any stories or odd musings or wistful melancholy anythings to share with you this morning. Strange, I know, but this is where we find ourselves. The bullshit well has not run dry, however; I want to be perfectly clear on that. But today, I'm just going to go ahead and move right into the meat of the post because, in the words of Jarvis Cocker, I can't even think of anything clever to say. So let's all make like Kriss Kross and just jump. (And yes, I am very proud of putting those two references together. Thank you for asking.)
Austin Wilson, OF, Harvard-Westlake High School (California)
6'4", 200 lbs.
DOB: 7th February, 1992
So, what's so special about this guy?
If you were to draw up what an ideal right fielder would look like, the end product might very well look suspiciously like Wilson. He's got huge raw power, an outstanding arm, and plenty of speed to handle any outfield position. As of right now, he's fast enough to play center, but there's some thought he'll probably slow down as he ages and matures. Even so, he has well-above average range for a corner outfield spot.
There are some concerns Wilson may struggle to hit for a high average, as his contact skills and plate discipline both need work. He's prone to chasing pitches out of the zone, leading to elevated strikeout totals. Still, those sorts of issues are usually to be expected in prep players, and Wilson certainly has the makeup and work ethic to make improvements. He draws rave reviews for the intangible parts of his game as well as his measurable skills.
I'm going to break one of the cardinal rules of player comps and use both of the Cards' main options for right field this season as comparisons for Wilson. His overall tool profile resembles both Ryan Ludwick and Joe Mather, as he's a tall, athletic outfielder who can play center but is best suited for right. I know, I know. He's black, so I should be digging up Daryl Strawberry or one of those guys instead, but I prefer the comps to our own current players. Particular in Mather's case, I think the two of them match up remarkably well. Physically they're very similar, both have swings prone to getting too long. I will say I doubt Wilson causes nearly as many cases of the vapours as Mather, but then again, who does? Wilson is a remarkably similar player to Mather, except in terms of when each one really blossomed. Mather, of course, is well known as having bloomed very late, but Wilson is already very much there. And let's face it: there's a big difference between being Joe Mather at 27 and nearly the same guy at 17. I do believe Mather probably induces significantly more cases of the vapours, though.
The question of whether Wilson will be available when the Cardinals pick is a complicated one. By talent he's probably a mid-first round guy, but in a draft so heavy with pitching and college talent it's possible he could fall. Certainly stranger things have happened when talking about high school players, as many teams shy away from the greater risk profile of prepsters. If Wilson does fall into the Cards' range, he would be an outstanding pick, I think.
Manny Machado, SS, Miami Brito High School
6'3", 185 lbs.
DOB: 6th July, 1992
So, what's so great about this guy?
It isn't often you see a player play a middle infield position who can also crank the ball like nobody's business. That's just what you have in Machado, though, who is capable of putting up excellent power numbers from the middle of the diamond.
Machado is capable of literally doing it all, both at the plate and in the field, and will likely hear his name called early on draft day because of it. He's got all five tools working, with plenty of arm and range to field the most demanding position on the diamond. There is some concern he may need to move to third base as he slows down, but I've literally never read a shortstop's scouting report that didn't include the words 'move' , 'third base', 'second base', and 'down the road' all fitted together in some combination. Personally, I tend to ignore it.
Machado is built much along the lines of many of the other big, physical shortstops we see in the game at present. He has an outstanding arm and solid-average range, making him a safe bet to maintain his defense as he moves up the ladder. I like his swing, as well, as Machado takes a big, healthy swing that enables him to produce hard contact consistently.
Machado is another one who should probably be off the board by the time the Cardinals pick, but he also just happens to remind me of Harold Martinez, the athletic shorstop/third baseman from a couple years ago who ended up going to Miami. Coming into the spring, Martinez was seen as one of the top position players in the entire 2008 draft, but he never really got untracked that spring and fell far enough he ended up attending scool. It's certainly ont out of the quetion to think Machado could end up slipping as well, partiularly if he gets off to a slow start.
The Verdict on Machado? If he's there, he's another outstanding sort of player the Cardinals might do well to consider selecting with their first pick.
Griffin Murphy, LHP, Redlands East Valley High School (California)
6'3", 200 lbs.
DOB: 7th June, 1992
So, what's so great about this guy?
Every year there's a guy who goes from borderline early-round talent to big-time draft pick based on what he does on the showcase circuit, and it looks as if Griffin Murphy may very well be that guy this year. He had been a lanky lefthander with so-so velocity and an interesting curveball up until this spring, when suddenly he jumped up in one of the scouting bureau showcases.
Whereas previously Griffin's fastball had been in the mid- to upper-80s, decent territory for a lefty with a good breaker, this spring his fastball jumped up a couple significant tics. He sat at 90, 91 and hit 93 several times. His curveball, previously soft and loopy (though effective), was much tighter and harder, and he even showed the potential for a solid changeup. He had clearly filled out some, and he seemed to have improved his delivery, smoothing out some of the rough edges and becoming more efficient.
The problem, of course, is kids like this don't always hold on to any gains they may make in the maturation process. While the scouts were salivating in February, it's impossible to say Murphy can do it on a regular, every day basis. Still, a lefty with three better than average offerings is a very exciting commodity, to say the least. Murphy has a great pitcher's frame as well, tall and strong with broad shoulders and long arms. He could easily take another 15-20 pounds, and could cement the strength gains he seems to have made. Then again, he could also be a showcase circuit wonder and fizzle out when real games are being played.
Of all the players on this list, Murphy is the most likely of the three to be available when the Cards pick. Personally, I think he could potentially have a very high ceiling, based not only what he is now but how much further he could improve. I'm not a huge fan of his delivery, which seems to have a lot of flailing about in it and just feels inefficient still. I wonder if refining his mechanics could both maintain the velocity and sharpness gains and help him do both more easily. He still needs to work on his command, as it's a bit below average at the moment.
Murphy is in transition, it seems, going from a lefty with okay stuff and decent command to a pitcher with legitimate plus stuff. His control and command haven't made the leap his stuff has yet, which could lead to teams having a tough time knowing where to draft him. If he can manage to harness his new turbocharged repertoire before the draft, Murphy will fly up boards all over the place. If he can't, he'll still be drafted fairly early on as a stuff guy who needs some polishing up before he heads out into the world.
Bottom line, I would be happy with any of the players on this list if the Cardinals ended up with one of them on draft day. The question is whether any of them will still be available. These are just the sort of players draftniks hope for when we hear Bill DeWitt talk about this year's draft and how much it's going to cost them. Sure, any or all of them could be a total bust, but there's also legitimate star power to be had with all three. And as just about every publication that covers the minor leagues will tell you, the Cardinals need star power in the system, badly.
The Baron's Playlist for the 7th of April, 2010 -- Play That Funky Music, White Boy
"Oh Lately It's So Quiet" - Ok Go
"Your Cover's Blown" - Belle and Sebastian
"I Turn My Camera On" - Spoon
"Debra" - Beck
"The Party's Crashing Us" - Of Montreal
579 comments
|
4 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
Go check yesterday's main post.
Scroll down through the comments. You’ll see.
You can read it in any tone you like.
i think it was self-sabotage
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 7, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
can't stand it, I know you planned it...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 7, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Ima set it straight, this watergate...
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Apr 7, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I
can’t stand rockin when i’m in here
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 7, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Recs all around
because it’s now running through my head, and that makes me happy.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
So rec'd
I never would’ve pictured any of them like that, but it works.
You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.
by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
more green than I've seen in quite some time
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
times. they ara tough
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
you ain't foolin
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
kind of sad it takes quoting a beastie boys song to get green
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
I know how to strikethrough the entire page now!
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll only do it on bcb if they are misbehaving
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he's subconsciously
revealing that his views are slanted?
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Tell all the truth
but tell it slant.
Surely this is what Dickinson intended.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
you can't stop the italics
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Needs more strikethrough.
But other than that, good stuff, as always, RB.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
by splhcb67 on Apr 7, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I can take care of that...
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
And I now see tonight's game is a late game.
Tomorrow is the early game. Jesus, what the hell is wrong with me lately?
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
Hey, ain't no thang.
Just gives more time for us to find new and inventive ways to SBN ourselves.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
well
tonight’s game is earlier than a typical home game, because it will be starting at 6:05 CST. so technically you were correct.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 7, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
are you asking Jesus what's wrong, or is that a statement? or both?
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Dude gotta get creative
His overall tool profile resembles both Ryan Ludwick and Joe Mather, as he’s a tall, athletic outfielder who can play center but is best suited for right. I know, I know. He’s black, so I should be digging up Daryl Strawberry or one of those guys instead, but I prefer the comps to our own current players.
Right handed Ray Lankford.
Not afraid to nitpick
Now why didn't I think of that?
Sir, I salute you.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 7, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe because Ray-Ray
is not a current Cardinal?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Very interesting mix of players, these three
Not being one who follows high school baseball closely (or at all), I can’t say that I can offer much in the way of insight here, but I, personally, am always quite partial to the possibility of excellent left-handed starting pitching, especially since it’s something we haven’t had since…sigh…Rick Ankiel. (single tear rolls down face)
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
We do have potentially very adequate lefty starting pitching in Garcia, though
Baby steps
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
do we have any other lefty starter in the system that anyone thinks much of?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
or lefty hitters
can we get a list of lefties?
not counting AJ Pujols…. he’s a freak like Ludwick.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we have an outfield of lefty batters
jay, jones, henley, shorey – or did you mean actual hitters?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Nope, not really
pretty barren as far as I can think.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
we took a potentially interesting lefty
From puerto rico in the 10th round or so in 2009, but I can’t recall his name
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 7, 2010 11:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Tidbits on Austin Wilson.
Wilson has been compared physically to former major league stars Andre Dawson and Moises Alou, with strong, sharp angles to his muscular body.
-Committed to Stanford
-Batted .543 with seven homers, 29 RBIs and 33 runs scored in 23 games last spring (his Junior season)
I've Also Herd....
…him cowpared to Richard Hidalgo – a big, beefy guy who might have 1-2 outstanding years, but be pretty mediocre, or worse, thereafter. Of the 3 mentioned I care for Wilson the least.
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Damn.
I graduated high school in 1992 and only had cruel life to look forward to.
Man, to be one of these guys with so much potential goodness ahead of you.
by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Apr 7, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions
Ya, he really blew that potential he didn't
have coming out of High School. Oh wait.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
that's only a quarter of what dmitri young made
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
My head hurts.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
sounds painful
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
For what it's worth...
ESPN Insider has Machado and Wilson as Top 10 picks, depending on whether teams commit to a high school player.
I like Machado
and I think he would be a good value in the first round for the Cardinals. Unlike Pete Kozma, who just seems like a horrible pick the more I look at it, Machado has a legit bat that could get him on the field at a number of different positions if he doesn’t stick at SS, good speed, and the arm to play 3B should his range limit him from playing SS.
I’ve seen some comparisons to Hanley Ramirez in terms of his build, and that’s pretty hefty praise.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'm always fascinated by how in heck people evaulate high school players
My podunk high school had players hitting .400 and pitchers who almost never lost a game. I know our catcher got drafted in the WAY late rounds by the Mets, but I don’t even know what his stats were.
Well I’ll be damned. The web knows all. And it lists him as an outfielder!
Seems like there’d be kids at almost every high school who’d kick butt.
Because hitters at least don't really get evaluated in the HS seaspn
They get evaluated in the summer when they are playing against somewhat more legitimate players. HS baseball is a joke, scouts don’t care about that other than to watch BP when you can tell the .450 HS hitter from the guy hitting 450 foot bombs. Pitchers stuff is the only thing a scout could care about in the HS game situation…..and even then it’s often pitching from crappy mounds in early March in 45 degree weather.
Not afraid to nitpick
I've said this on FR already
I want austin wilson
i want him like i wanted jacob turner last year
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
by VolsnCards5 on Apr 7, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
and by jacob turner...i mean zach wheeler
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
wild shot in the dark
Creve Coeur Camera?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
thanks
that also looks promising
i’m just waiting on these *’s from kodak to release the z981 but they can’t tell me when exactly this month it’ll be (you don’t know your own release date? how worthless are you?). and i’d really like to have a better camera for opening day
nikon is better
my professional photographer of a wife was reading over my shoulder…she wanted me to type that
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
for a point-and-shoot?
really? why? ask her which one
i need a superzoom
and now i also know who i’ll be harassing with all kinds of questions when i get ready to drop the cash on a dslr
well it depends on what you mean by a point and shoot
she shoot nikon’s in her professional work…but her “personal” camera, and the one she takes to games, is a nikon d40
she also has more traditional “point and shoot” but i don’t know the brand
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
i would like to make friends with your wife
cause i’m sure she’s got some sweet sweet lenses
or rob her
spants can stab her for you
and you can run off with the lenses.
VEB teamworkd
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
first rule of stabbing
never ask permission.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 7, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
STAB!
Like so.
(Everyday, I wonder how this became my online persona. Oh well.)
You can read it in any tone you like.
Because why not appear to be a blood-thirsty, baseball-obsessed woman?
You can read it in any tone you like.
how do we know it's really only for the online?
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Except, of course, the movie Rookie of the Year.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
I thought it said a lot about cubs pitching depth....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think it has something to do with your real name
Stabby McStabberson.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
had they gone with stubby
you had a future at second base
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I was a shortstop.
So my eventual future was second base anyway.
You can read it in any tone you like.
Only on the diamond.
(I don’t know what you’re talking about.)
You can read it in any tone you like.
Just for kicks
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I endorse this thread heartily.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a d40
and, tbh, I’ve not been wholly impressed with it since I bought it, but I can’t really afford to go apeshit on the spending so it’s my digi SLR for the foreseeable future.
I really feel I should’ve gone all-in when I got it and got an 18-200mm lens, instead of the two nikkor ones I got (18-50 and 50-200).
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
you have a 40 sided die?
awesome!
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I have that samsung digital with the screen on the front
other than the screen on the front, which I can show clowns, and technology that takes the picture automatically when people smile, I know nothing about it.
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
My wife just bought a D700 for her work
and used to use a d40 has her “snap shot” non-professional camera. Which she loved until it got stolen. :-( I would recommend the d40 to anyone.
No complaints on the D60
although the flash was broken when I got it so the inside pictures were awful, once I got it fixed it has worked great
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
From your post below, it looks like you're talking about a point and shoot.
Don’t rent . I think you can get 7mp ones for like $50.
Well hell if the post ends up down here
then YOUR post is above not below.
yeah, i have an old kodak
want me a superzoom point and shoot for now
but kodak is dilly-dallying
i can make due with what i have but don’t really want to
Given the price of the bridge/superzoom cameras
you might as well just pay a little more and get a low-end DSLR. You can always just go with the basic factory lens (probably not much less zoom than you’ll get in the bridge model), and then any more money you have to spend in the future you can blow on supersweet new lenses (although, I should point out I’ve really regretted buying two lenses with mine, a solid multi-purpose factory lens and a zoom lens, instead of getting a more expensive combo one that can do both – all the swapping is a pain).
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, i'm sure you're right
dunno if that’s a major advantage, necessarily? I guess it depends on your priorities. I like the ease of use and not having to swap lenses, too, plus the LCD preview is obviously nice. DSLRs are just much more work in general, but I think, broadly speaking, probably worth it…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a film SLR, which I love. The quality is obviously better.
But sometimes I don’t feel like lugging around heavy lenses. So I take my superzoom point and shoot. And sometimes THAT is too heavy, so I take my husband’s point-and-shoot. Just depends on what I’m doing, what I’m going to be doing after, and how long I’ll be gone.
You can read it in any tone you like.
I have a superzoom and a point and shoot also
don’t have a high quality cam yet but having a film one is a good way to go. although I’d like to have a dslr just because they can do hd video pretty nicely.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I want a dslr, too.
But I got the slr and a few decent lenses for $50 a few years ago. I’ve since added a pretty sweet macro lens. And I just develop to CD.
You can read it in any tone you like.
dang
that is really inexpensive. the only problem with that is now you need to invest in a nice scanner, or keep paying to have stuff scanned and developed. for most stuff though you could probably use the superzoom
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's cheap.
It’s cheaper than developing to prints for sure. It’s like $3 at Costco for processing and CD. If you go to a photo shop, it’s more. But they often use more annoying CD software. The Costco software can be bypassed. Anyway, then I can come home, edit the photos, and print what I want. Or not.
You can read it in any tone you like.
oh wow
that’s a good deal. costco kicks ass, wish I had a membership
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
The only problem is that they just develop regular film.
No specialty films like real b&w film or slide flim. (I love shooting with slide film b/c of how awesome the colors are, but it’s expensive to process and I don’t even have a slide projector.)
You can read it in any tone you like.
I love doing b&w
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I do a lot of b&w shooting
but if you’re getting the images on CD, you can use photoshop (or some other image editor) to get a pretty damn good facsimile of “real” b&w photography. Tbh, I shoot anything b&w on my dslr in colour and then tinker with it later – it’s too much trouble to switch repeatedly between the shooting modes anyhow.
I guess that’s one of the big problems with having a dslr as an amateur photographer as opposed to a point & shoot-type camera; everything takes so much longer to set-up and shoot so you can miss certain shots (especially in, say, a baseball game) because of the sheer wealth of options. Because I think I have a decent eye for composition, but I don’t use half of the features of my dslr and its lenses, in reality I’d probably be better off with a good bridge model in a lot of cases, but, meh, I like the dslr…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 8, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions
That's where I disagree.
Film B&W is just better. And I’m halfway decent at Photoshop.
You can read it in any tone you like.
I agree
film black and white just looks great. and Photoshop is perhaps the best piece of software ever.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I may be more of a composition geek
and you may be more of a quality geek :-)
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 9, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions
IMO you need both.
And while I prefer nailing the composition on the shot, I can always tweak it a bit in Photoshop.
You can read it in any tone you like.
of course, in general, you are right
but i do see the difference in paying $350 for 26x zoom from the money i’ll need to shed to get the equivalent in dslr
the one p&s i got my eye on has a 26 mm wide angle, the equivalent to the zoom will be a 676mm lens (as far as i understand/simplify the concept in my head). that sounds to me like a pretty expensive lens. plus, the body alone will be more than $350. i don’t want to buy low end dslr because i consider it a commitment for a longer term so when i buy one, i buy one of the better ones
beside the money, what’s stopping me is that cameras with detachable lenses are usually not allowed to concerts etc.
but yeah, it’s mostly the money and the low end dslr’s that i’ve seen and tried just don’t do it for me
Good point about concerts. Don't those fools realize what a good point-and-shoot can do?
You can read it in any tone you like.
aparently not
and really, what is the point to restrict those anymore?
even phones can take kick ass pictures now
Concerts are challenging to shoot, though. Phones require at least a little effort.
But yeah, those rules are stupid.
You can read it in any tone you like.
More Wilson
Here is a video of Wilson hitting a HR off of Karsten Whitson, who is probably a top 10 talent pitcher, at Wrigley field
Warning, Steven Phillips commentating
Wilson is smart, and one parent went Ivy league, while the other went to MIT…my guess is it will take a lot to get this kid to pass up his scholarship to Stanford
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
ever see that clip of bedrosian's boy
striking out bryce harper? video i saw was poor, and a bad angle – was wondering what that off-speed pitch was.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
just saw the video
not sure what the pitch is…but harper sure was fooled
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Heyward's parents both went to Dartmouth
and he went the baseball route instead of college. Ya nevah know.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Really.
What Ivy League school did you attend?
/stirring it some more
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if it's any consolation
I did not go to the Colorado College of the east (Harvard), I went to the actual thing.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
you certainly payed like a Havad man
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Not back in the '70s
I didn’t. It was quite reasonable for many years. Not so much, now. Hell, I even went to a semi-decent law school in the late ‘80s for about $1500/semester. Now it’s 10x that.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
so you just kinda compared wilson to heward
salivating
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
Should we be starting a fund?
I would guess a $1M signing bonus might be enough to sway him, don’t you think? Then he could always go back to Stanford if baseball doesn’t work out, while driving a Porsche to class.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
ZOMG
I actually have heard of all the bands in rb’s playlist! What is the world coming to?!
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
i'm happy when i just know one
did i just show my age?
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 7, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
No.
The three I’ve heard of are pretty current.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I've heard of 3 also (I think)
not sure about Spoon, but definitely heard of Belle and Sebastian and Beck; I just don’t own any of their music. At my age, I very rarely pick up on new bands….the latest interesting things I’ve heard are Great Lake Swimmers and Haunted Windchimes.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Check out The National
I’ve only heard a bit, but I like em so far. They’re being hyped up as the next big thing. And they’re from Cincinnati. That makes them almost on topic.
Well, I've "heard of" all but Spoon
Now, as far as actually hearing their music, I think I’ve only heard Beck (obviously) and OK Go’s stuff.
And every time I hear of them, I always have to remind myself that no, Belle and Sebastian are not from the era of disco.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
of montreal is bizarre
i have seen them in concert, and i love Sunlandic Twins as an album, but they are like…mgmt…but odder
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
Much much odder
I’ve never really been one for MGMT, they just bother me.
Of Montreal are geniuses in their own very distinct way, though, I believe. Sunlandic Twins is a great album, also.
I totally don't get the appeal of MGMT
seem rather boring to me. Of Montreal are sorta interesting though
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I need more interesting happenings
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
if you like them you might like Oneida
whom I talk about from time to time
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Well one thing is for sure
Whenever I am talking about a band I listen I will certainly say that it is a band “I talk about from time to time”
I’ll check them out.
reminds me of "The Oneders"
from the movie “That Thing You Do”. I loved it when the nerdy guy in the movie pronounced the band the “Oh needers” (instead of as “The Wonders” which was how they intended it to be pronounced).
youneverknow
Listen to Spoon
The best band out of the bunch. Download Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga
(Insert Your Own Joke)
by AWolfAtTheDoor on Apr 7, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
3/5
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
same here
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
I like today's list.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Apr 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
today is actually the first day ever since Red's done his list i didn't like a song
i feel bad about that
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Great post RB. Someone should take you out to Glendale
Take you for a real good meal.
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
by lightbulb on Apr 7, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
You know the deal
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
Question on MLB Extra Innings
I live in Central Illinois. Comcast is our cable provider and they bring us FS-Midwest, but we don’t get all the Cards games they show. Apparently, there are two levels that cable companies can do – all 130 games that FSM shows and (something like) 108 of the games. In our area, it’s the latter (I don’t believe it’s changed this year). If I bought Extra Innings, would I be able to watch all the Cards games, or are Cards games blacked out because I am technically in FSM’s service area? If anyone knows, I would appreciate the info.
I think if you go to the extra innings website, you can enter your zip code and they will tell you what your blackout area is.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I've tried doing that
and it’s still not clear – they say in their FAQ:
Q: WHAT ARE THE LOCAL BROADCAST RIGHTS/RESTRICTIONS?
A: If you live in a zip code area that falls within an MLB team’s home television territory, that team’s games will be blacked-out from MLB EXTRA INNINGS. These games will generally be available on that team’s RSN or team affiliated OTA station. Blackouts protect the local rightsholders who arrange separate distribution agreements for their exclusive territories.
Now, I’m in the FSM area, but would they still blackout games that I don’t get on my cable? My guess is that they do (since it says “generally available”), but I wondered if anyone knew for sure. If I am correct, then I could watch all the Cards games if I lived in somewhere like South Carolina, but can’t given I live in an area where my cable company doesn’t bring all the Cards games. Anyway, thanks for the assistance.
Yeah, you're gooned.
If FSM doesn’t carry it locally in your area, it will be blacked out on MLB Extra Innings as well. If you live in South Carolina, you get all 162.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
Not sundays though,
or saturday afternoon. Fox and KSDK (?) can suck it.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yep, you're too close & will be blacked out
my condolences
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
thanks for the replies
sure does seem like a strange system – if you live too close, you can’t get the games
welcome to the archaic MLB blackout policy
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
I personally think you will be hosed out of the other games.
The Mariners are my local team (As local as a 13 hour drive can get), and the EI feeds are blacked out, but I get them on the FSN channel.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I have the same problem (decatur)
I usually just hope the games they don’t carry are on a Monday, Thursday, or Friday, since I’ll be gone for softball anyway
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
I (thoroughly) enjoy Goold
Hit the Links: Holy (papis), Boston Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz is (tickled) by (dadgum) reporters and their (frog-flipping) questions about his (smegging) 0-fer to start the season, and he unloaded with a colorful barrage of parenthetical sentiment, writes Gordon Edes at ESPNBoston.com.
10@10 w/ Colby and his draft class
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
says that amuary is in AAA to start the season
makes me uncomfortable
I mean, that’s one leap to the majors and albert
the world would pull itself apart before allowing those forces to combine
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
I'd love to see Amaury on the bench at some point this season
Once we trade Stav for Heath Bell, there should be an opening on the bench…
Is Gameday Mini no longer available?
It’s pretty hard to watch games on the full screen version while I’m in class.
Thanks Baron, I really enjoy these reads
It’s clear that you’re doing some pretty intensive digging and research when selecting these guys. One thought I had – I wonder if we could somehow find a way to pick Jeff Lunhow’s brain on this board one of these days. I know he would be reluctant to spill too much information prior to the draft. But I’d be intrigued to get a better grasp of how the Cardinals organization picks guys.
Well, probably just wishful thinking on my part. In the meantime, the Baron scouting reports are lovely. Keep it up dude!
i'd bet he would want to keep
that to himself. i wouldn’t want other teams knowing how i was going to draft. * warning, but here’s a good example why
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
That borders on ridiculous
It makes it sound like scouting has become akin to a CIA sting operation. I just imagine it now. “Agghhhh! Lunhow, you’ve blown my cover! Abort, Abort!” ;-)
by JWO on Apr 7, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
haha ya
but i am pretty sure we drafted greene in 05 ahead of colby because we thought the team behind us was into greene
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Reverse that.
The Cards wanted Greene and Colby, but took Colby first because Walt was sure the Marlins would have taken him at 29 if the Cards had passed.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 7, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Viva el League
So I’ve been in a cave since Saturday and have no idea what’s going on in VEB world (I missed you guys!) When does the scoring start for Viva el League?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
next monday.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 7, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
after the all-star break
when the draft finishes.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ha. we already had our draft
its the other fantasy league that’s still going.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
oh. i can't keep track.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you're thinking of the official VEB CBSSports sanctioned DanUp commished league
Viva El League is my yahoo one with 4 divisions
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We're almost done with Round 11......
WOOHOO!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I really like my team so far
Pujols
Zobrist
Bartlett
Rolen
Werth
Cruz
McCutchen
Napoli
Peavy
Lowe
E. Jackson
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a little meh aboot mine.
C*
1B Teixeira, Mark (1B NYY)
2B Weeks, Rickie (2B MIL)
3B Figgins, Chone (3B SEA)
SS Rollins, Jimmy (SS PHI)
OF Hawpe, Brad (OF COL)
OF DeRosa, Mark (3B SF)
OF Hamilton, Josh (OF TEX)
U*
SP* Kazmir, Scott (SP ANA)
SP* Harden, Rich (SP TEX)
SP* Verlander, Justin (SP DET)
SP*
SP*
RP* Rivera, Mariano (RP NYY)
Being in the middle, without getting any picks close to each other really sucks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Texeira and Rollins are pretty nice
and Verlander and Rivera very nice too. other than that, yeah, meh
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm holding out hope that Tex tears up
Yankee stadium.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
the rest of my pitching is probably going to suck
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
NCAOFT
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
actually
NCAYFT is more accurate
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
second week
I think the head to head leagues on there start later for some reason, because my rotisserie one is already scoring
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
my other head to head league is already scoring. hmmm
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
it's because we had the draft "late"
any draft that was scheduled for last monday or later starts scoring in week 2, head to head or rotisserie. dumb, i know.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 7, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
weird
I woulda had the draft earlier had I known
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
he's missing...
we may have to wait for a long time for him if he has gone to bed already
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
oh in which case
i can't believe i missed that game.
colby’s catch, yadi’s GS, pujols’ 2 HRs…. i am finally going to get to see a baseball game tonight! woooooooo!
yadi2, i was going to ask you to summarize everything i missed from saturday to last night, but i thought that might be a bit burdensome.
at least tell me if there are any new memes i need to be aware of.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i'll have to get back to you
Griffin Murphy has got to be our guy
and could start a proud tradition of draftees named after mythological creatures.
1st round: Griffin Murphy
2nd round: Fenix Castro
3rd round: Draco Alvarez
4th round: Chimera Stevenson
5th round: Basilisk Jones
Etc. I didn’t bother putting Pegacorn Rodriguez up there cause there’s no way he’ll fall to our pick.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
basilisks rule
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Although apparently
they are no match for weasels.
Cardinals Baseball 2010...Catch the Infection!
by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Apr 7, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Presumably be joining Richard "The Roc" Racobaldo in high A?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
If RB's stuff is so good
how come I’m the only one who rec’d his post?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions
Nah
I’m just not stingy, like Ms. McStabberson said.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Fangraphs has a post on optimizing lineups
Interesting – They say St. Louis has the least optimized lineup.
I’m assuming TLR could never be talked out of batting Pujols 3rd. I’m also not sure that that’s the biggest difference, or if other changed need to be made. Anyone ever had the time to plug our opening day lineup into the optimizer at Baseball Musings?
What kind of run effect, + or -, is lineup
optimization thought to have over an entire season, approximately? I know it is a common subject of geekery for us internet geeks to tinker with in our geek labs, but how much of an effect is it really going to have over a whole season? I’m not dismissing it either, maybe the effect is substantial. I just don’t know.
It can be quite a lot, actually
talking quite a few wins (over 10, I believe is possible) from “best” to “worst”, but of course “worst” will probably involve the pitcher hitting leadoff.
In terms of actual realistic lineups that might ever be used, the difference is pretty minimal. You’re talking 1 win, maybe 2 max.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
you're in stabby mood today.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You can read it in any tone you like.
by Mister Eff on Apr 7, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stabby.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I wonder when managers decided that putting your best hitter 3rd in the lineup is the best idea
back in my day you put him in cleanup!
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
In a way, it makes sense
because he’s guaranteed to bat in the first inning.
You can read it in any tone you like.
but he's just not going to have as many runners on base
unless they go back to pitcher bats 8th, then him batting 3rd makes more sense. hell, I wouldn’t mind Albert batting 2nd actually.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Just explaining why people put their best hitter third.
You can read it in any tone you like.
yeah I know
I was being funny, you whippersnappers!
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
We clearly have different definitions of humor.
Unless I read your comment like the Count from Sesame Street.
You can read it in any tone you like.
my definition of humor changes daily
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Three!
Three hundred sixty five definitions of humor, ah ah ah!
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on Apr 7, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol!
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
back to being serious
I’ve read several posts about the third position in the lineup being not a very good position for your best hitter. that all changes though if they go back to batting the pitcher 8th
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
we should probably do that and hit Pujols 2nd.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 7, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
So He'll walk moore and hit less??
Pitchers won’t walk the bases loaded, but if Pujols bats second they cud walk him easily. if its moore ABs yer after, why not lead him off? I like Pujols at third because it is the best of both worlds: he gets ducks on the pond (if they do his job) and then they pretty much have to pitch to him. I know walks are nice, but Pujols hitting is better for us.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
If we have a man on 1st, no outs, and Pujols up
go ahead and walk him, I say. Especially now we seem to have more than one above-average hitter to hit behind him.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 8, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
TLR has specified
1. bats in first inning
2. and therefore gets extra at bats over a season
yes yes
I know his reasoning. but he misses out on rbi opportunities batting third in the lineup imo
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
And you take Albert out of #3
you miss out on “Pujols on base” opportunities.
Has anyone ever correlated lineup-order studies with the overall quality of hitters in a lineup? IOW, does a lineup with very uneven quality of hitters gain more from tinkering than a lineup that has a lot of very good hitters?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
bat him second then
but I think it’s much more important to have him batting in high leverage situations than it is to have him running around on the bases.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he's probably our
smartest and boldest baserunner, so either way it’s fine by me. And he LOVES running the bases. Don’t you want our best player happy?
And BTW, I just can’t get excited about the debate re Albert’s spot in the order. He can stay at #3 forever AFAIAC.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 7, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I seem to remember him getting caught quite a few times last year because of him being overaggressive
he makes up for it too by scoring from second base on a single sometimes, but I am not sure he’s our best baserunner, even if it’s just because he’s not that fast.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
is there some sort of baserunning stat?
I know he was good by Spd at fangraphs but I’m not sure that measures baserunning smarts.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
smart is in the eye of the beholder
smarts is like heart, you can’t measure it.
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
except with IQ
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
does Bill Gates really know what to do on a bloop single to left?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Quantitatively
Albert is a pretty terrible baserunner, IIRC. He’s slow and runs into a lot of unnecessary outs, although people will always prefer “aggressive mistakes” on the bases, I guess. I’m pretty sure I saw a stat that said he was a net negative on the bases last year.
I think it’s at billjames online.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 8, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He was a net negative last year, per James Online,
after being one of the 10 best on the bases in 2008 by the same James Online stat, iirc correctly.
I think baserunning runs are really hard to measure quantitatively. I would say that Albert is an above average baserunner, and I’ll take some aggressive outs if it’s going to lead to some runs that we normally wouldn’t score.
I’m going to guess that he’ll be a bit less aggressive this season because we have so many more quality hitters in our lineup
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
the difference is
when Brendan Ryan does it, it
1) doesn’t work
2) puts him in the doghouse.
I love this game!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Bat hitter with BEST AVERAGE third - ALWAYS...
…then best (or second best) RBI man in cleanup. I’m no expert, but I think that strategy gives the best outcome in the long run! For one thing, this approach gives you the BEST opportunity for jumping out to early leads – which I believe is dramatically relevant to overall W/L. I’d bet that looking at statistical computerized programs/analyses would be MOST revealing, interesting, and advantageous in determining TLR’s optimal second slot hitter – if not first AND second…WAY more significant than #‘s 3, 4 OR 5! Historically, I always loved Tony Oliva (and succeeded by Carew) batting in front of Killebrew, for instance. The old Royals were better with George Brett batting 3rd – although I believe they often had him 4th. I guess I just showed my age, huh? I’ll not bore anyone further! ;/
bat Pujols 2nd
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d bet that looking at statistical computerized programs/analyses would be MOST revealing, interesting, and advantageous in determining TLR’s optimal second slot hitter
This has already been done in the past. I think it’s pretty well proven that the two most important slots (i.e. the positions where you should put your best hitters) are 2 and 4. Behind that, obviously a high OBP guy hitting 1 is important, and 3, 5 and 6 are important slots too. It’s also been suggested that hitting your worst OBP guy (i.e. the pitcher) 8th is the best position.
Take that for what you will. I believe this comes from “The Book – Playing the Percentages in Baseball” by Tango, Lichtman and Dolphin.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 8, 2010 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Right
By optimization, our best lineup would be this, I believe:
Skip/Lopez
Holliday
Rasmus
Pujols
Ludwick
Molina
Freese
P
Ryan
I just don’t see TLR ever batting Holliday in the 2 spot or Pujols in the 4 spot. Ever. Like in a million years.
Keep in mind, optimization itself isn’t the end all, be all of scoring runs. It’s simply measuring what’s going to score most efficiently over a 9 inning game. I think there is something to what Daactor T is saying about getting out to early leads and how that effects in game decisions and winning percentage, something that WPA fails to measure properly and isn’t accounted for in these optimization runs either.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Quite possibly
there’s also the psychology of individual players to take into account. If moving Pujols to #2 or #4 is going to piss him off, in a year in which we’re trying to get him extended for good, I think I’ll happily leave him hitting third and sacrifice the 1 or 2 runs (or whatever) that might cost us a year.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 9, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That optimizer sucks.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
The method here seems haphazard.
For one thing, you’re lineup is going to be more “optimized” using this method if you have a bunch of hitters who are all the same skill level, because you can put them in any order and they’re going to pretty well give you the same outcome. American League teams are off the hook here because of the DH.
You could make 2 changes to optimize the St. Louis lineup:
- Swap Brendan Ryan and David Freese THEN
- Swap Brendan Ryan and Carpenter.
That’s going to give us a lot better optimization…..but then Carpenter would have hit with runners on every time he came to the plate last night too. Over the first two games, nobody on the team has had more RBI opportunities than David Freese has. We’ve scored 17 runs in two games, and that’s with our 1 and 2 hitters having poor starts. If our middle of the order hitters (Pujols, Rasmus, Holliday) get on base and our late order hitters (Ludwick, Molina, Freese) continue to drive them in, our “optimization” is going to change a bit.
It’s a bit to early to be evaluating this, imo. We’d be much better off looking at this around the all-star break.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
For instance
your lineup is going to be more "optimized" using this method if you have a bunch of hitters who are all the same skill level, because you can put them in any order and they’re going to pretty well give you the same outcome
Take the Rangers. Now, swap out the Rangers 3 hole hitter for Albert Pujols. My guess is that their lineup is now less “optimized” even though they’ve added the best hitter in the game to it. So their lineup is worse with Albert Pujols? No, it’s not — it’s just not as optimal at scoring runs because it doesn’t have their best hitter in the cleanup or 2nd spot. Pretty flawed, don’t you think?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
judging by who they say have the most important spots
an optimal lineup would probably look something like this:
schumaker
rasmus
ludwick
pujols
holliday
molina
freese
pitcher
ryan
pujols and holliday could also be flipped. just seems weird me either way to not have AP batting third.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 7, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions
reply fail
first one ever.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 7, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
shouldn't holliday be second?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Well...
Albert would get more ABs in the second spot, and maybe ground into fewer double plays.
You can read it in any tone you like.
yeah
if Holliday batted second Albert would have at least 160 – 170 rbis imo
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably.
Who bats cleanup with it’s
Skip
Holliday
Pujols
4
5
6
7
8
You can read it in any tone you like.
I would have albert cleanup
but say he stays batting third, you can have either Luddy or Colby, maybe even Yadi bat cleanup
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, but he's always going to bat third.
Holliday won’t necessarily always bat fourth. Albert and Yadi back-to-back is a little ick. So slow. So many double plays with Albert on base.
You can read it in any tone you like.
ok
ixnay on the adiyay batting leanupcay
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols will leave the 3-spot
When he’s 40 years old. Maybe.
by JWO on Apr 7, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
wishful thinking lol. I really do think he’d be better batting 2nd or 4th though. cmon TLR switch it up
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
never going to happen
and, IMO, I don’t think any of these projections, or whatever they’re called, justifies a change. batting third has turned out pretty well for his career and if it aint broke, don’t fix it
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
he would have more rbis
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
you assume...
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
at least I have a reason other than being scared to try something new
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
although it would help more to just have better obp guys in front of him
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
it would probably miraculously fix yesterday's thread
as he points to the sky
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
then imagine what would happen
if amaury marti commented.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm not scared of moving him out of the 3 spot
unless he is demanding to stay there. then I would be
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
if I shave my head into a mohawk, I might get picked up by a rock band
not every reason for doing something new is a good one.
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
yeah
but this has analysis to back it up, whereas your examples are not very reasonable imo
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know enough about the analysis
but has it been tested?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
only one way to find out
I’m sure TLR has batted Albert in other spots, but it’s a SSS
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
here is an article by chuckb
that could do this argument more justice than I ever could
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
if there was a link
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
might help if I included the link lol
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/3/28/813251/cards-lineup-optimization
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a great post
i loved chucks posts
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
at least we agree on something
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Don't forget
that Albert grounds into about as many DPs as Yadi.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I think so
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That was my thought.
Really, if you take TLR’s ideal profile of a #2 hitter (damage) and combine it with mine (a high-OBP guy), it’s Holliday.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that Beck song btw
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions
That's what I like to hear!
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
haha
douchecrew sucks!
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
3 walks and 2 wild pitches
2 hits, and a failed dp.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
this is some heavy Nats Fail.
The damage was done?
Good lord let the poor team get some revenue.
it was mostly that the Nats fans (they do exist) didn't get a first shot
at their own park
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
But they did
that’s the problem. It’s in his basement screaming about nothing. No offense! ahha
As for the spying issue, I can walk down 2 floors to our call center and find people googling the names that the auto dialer connects them to.
First in war, first in peace...
and last in operating MLB franchises…
This space for lease. Contact within.
we were talkin' bout Ozzie...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
braun is no colby
ball bounces off his glove for homer – second ball off his glove today. edmonds made a nice catch in right on a ball giambi smoked.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Anybody seen any lineups yet?
Also do you think we can squeak the game out in cincy? Weather doesn’t look too good.
Weather doesn't look promising for the game tonight
Thunderstorms this evening
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
I think I'll head to a bar that has Bell's Brewery give aways tonight then
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm going to be really upset if today's game is rained out
i missed opening day, i can only hold out for so much longer before i freak out.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I'm gonna be pissed if it goes 3 or 4 innings and is then called
Waino has crap luck for starts in these situations.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
yeah me too
I am so mad at mlb.tv btw
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if on the last of these draft previews
we can see a list/summary of all the players covered? like right before the draft happens…. that would kick ass.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions
I actually got a response on Joe Strauss's live chat to my question
fredbirdisadork: Joe,
In light of the recent hysteria surrounding an opening day 11-6 win… Being that you have been a baseball writer for other teams prior to St. Louis, I was wondering if this type of insanity is typical? Franklin hasn’t even had the opportunity to blow a save yet and he is now deemed Franklinhausen? Where has patience and reason gone from society?
In all seriousness, who in the Cardinals minor league system bats left handed with any authority? It seems that 3 reserve outfielders who all hit from the right side is a bit odd for TLR. Would Daniel Descalso represent the best fit as far as replacements go (bats left and plays infield)?
Joe Strauss: There is a line between being the “best fans in baseball” and the most self-absorbed is a fine one with some. There are valid points to be made without engaging in hysteria. For some, it’s not enough to win the game. A team must win it a certain way. For others, it’s not enough to be told the news. They need to be told what they want to hear. It’s a minority, but a very vocal one. Society, and sports, is now more about ratings and hits than about thoughtful discussion and perspective. Dispute someone’s vitriol and you’re a house man. Critique something done by a star player or a division-winning team and you’re a self-promoting ripper. In both cases, perhaps the response is an honest one given to a thoughtful question.
The RH bias you note is legitimate. Mark Hamilton and Tyler Henley are the most potent LH bats above Class A. Descalso would be promoted more because of where he plays.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
he also posted this later
Joe Strauss: Crisis counselors are standing by at 1-800-NOT-IZZY.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 7, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought so too...
Speaking of funny, I noticed you on the “Boo Hoo why do people hate the Cubs” thread at BCB this morning. Am I being an elitist when I laugh at even the notion of a discussion like that? Is there any more of a “look at me!!!!” action than throwing a pity party for yourself? The thread itself is an answer to the question.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. I don't understand hating other teams or their fans.
People need to get their priorities straight.
/says the woman who spends too much time on a baseball blog
You can read it in any tone you like.
I agree with you Spants
I just find it funny that the guy who runs the website created a thread about it.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 7, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd say it's a thread that could only be found on a Cubs site.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on Apr 7, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I Dislike the Cubs a lot..
…but I don;t hate ‘em. Really, they’re too pathetic to hate. They never win anything, what’s to hate? Now the YANKEES, they who BUY championships and ruin dreams, They are worthy of my whit-hot, smoldering, intense life-long hatred. Oh yes…life-long…..
>:=8o
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
that how I view the cubs
way too pathetic to hate them. feel sorry for them.
I hate the Yanks, Red Sox, that’s about it. I used to hate the Giants but now I kinda like ’em. oh yeah, not a big mets fan either
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
plus it's more annoying to cubs fans
than if you hate them, they want to get into ridiculous heated arguments, but if you act reasonable it annoys them more because then they are confronted with the truth
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
true
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
indifference works
because they truly want to be hated
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The fact is
we have Jose Alberto Pujols Alcantara, and the other 29 teams don’t. So, I just feel pity for them these days.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yep
every team has their good aspects and their bad aspects, their cool fans and their lame fans
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta admit it was funny
Make a positive comment, you get positive replies. “Oh, you’re right”
Make a negative comment (Wrigley is kind of a toilet, your fans don’t know who is in first place, who do fans love a team that loses all the time) and you get “oh, that’s not true” and “you’re clueless.”
but you do get a sarcastic gif out of it
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
talk about the pot calling the kettle black
thoughtful discussion and perspective?
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He does seem to wait for the softballs to be lobbed in regards to the fans of St. Louis
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 7, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
he's so dramatic
I’ll be he’s listening to some wagner
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Wagner...
That makes me think of Billy Wagner… DOH!!!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I read wanker
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I wouldn't doubt it.
Wagner. Blecch. Sounds like it’d be about Straussy’s taste.
As for me, give me Bach any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Shorter Strauss:
“You’d better get them unicorn pictures ready.”
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
this from the reds site:
The scoreboard was full of wacky hijinks today. Anyone else spot these memorable moments?
1) "St. Louis" was replaced with "New York" and the entire Cardinals lineup was replaced with the name "Theriot."
2) Laynce Nix’s name, number, and slot in the lineup disappeared for entire innings at a time. Laynce Nix himself remained in the game, for better or worse.
3) When Pujols stepped up for his second at-bat of the game, the count was pre-set to 1-2. This actually seems like a reasonable adjustment to make on a player who can’t possibly be human. Who’ll sign my petition to Bud Selig?
4) At the end of the game, the Cardinals had more runs than the Reds. (Oh, wait..)
by the finest muffins on Apr 5, 2010
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
echoes from yesterday's strikethrough thread weirdness?
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
It did seem like pujols was playing in a slow pitch softball game yesterday
maybe that explains the 1-2 count
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 7, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
thats funny
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
something eerie about that theriot business though
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
if you started albert at 1-2
his career batting line would be .278/.327/.475. Albert Pujols, everybody.
by DanUpBaby on Apr 8, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
holy fucking shit®
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 8, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions
have a listen to this
it’s fantastic http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125423842
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions
Sonds good so far.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
my favorite guitarist evar
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to have one of those too
I have a fender bass and it sounds great
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a singing bass.
His name is Billy.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm a little meh on jazzmasters
I’ve got one. I don’t use it all that much. Much prefer and Teles and Strats. The bridge on a Jazzmaster is just not that happening sustain and stability wise. I do plan to get one of those modern replacement bridges (like Bill Frisell uses) and see if that improves things.
youneverknow
Frisell is great!
I kinda want a fernandes because they have those infinite sustain and feedback control switches… but you can buy that and put it on any guitar you want
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I've always wanted to try the sustainer thingy too
used to have an ebow, but it broke (and it’s only good for one string). I am a feedback whore. THAT’S WHY I CAN’T HEAR SO WELL ANYMORE!
youneverknow
I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN!
I’ve tried digital feedback modelers, but that fernandes thing is the best from what I’ve heard.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
oldschool
my main method for inducing feedback has been to kick on one or more overdrive pedals and rest the headstock of my guitar on the top of the amp.
Works pretty well, but as I mentioned, it does get loud.
youneverknow
well duh
but yeah, that’s too loud and you have much less control that way. I’m more interested in feedback sculpting I guess I would call it.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
sculpting
I control it via my wammy bar and by moving. If a notes starts to go too crazy, I either take the headstock off the amp, mess w/ the wammy bar. I’m doing it in a live/gigging situation, so loud is semi-ok.
I used to do feedback “practice” at home, but just can’t take the audio abuse anymore.
youneverknow
I've noticed that tube amps have much more interesting and "sculpable" feedback
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I can believe it
I pretty much have only used tube amps for years. They compress nicely when pushed and I can only assume that helps w/ feedback. I just did some shows in Austin for SXSW, and had to use rented (mostly) solid state amps. It was hard to get the sound I’m used to. I found that the mids were really nice and clear, but the highs sounded odd and it took me a while to get used to it.
youneverknow
I will probably be solid state for the foreseeable future
because they are easier to take care of and aren’t as expensive… but I do love tubes. my band has two guitarists, one has solid state the other tube, it’s a nice balance.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I hear ya
couldn’t live w/ out my tube amps, though. To be fair, though, mine have held up great. I do get ‘em checked over every few years which is probably why I haven’t had any problems.
youneverknow
I play bass and guitar btw
I’m starting this other band with some friends where I’ll get to play bass on some songs, guitar on others, and keyboards and synths on others. wouldn’t mind playing drums on one song too lol
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Something like this is always what I've wanted to do
I’d love to be able to use all the sundry instruments I have instead of just playing the guitar.
it's way more fun that way
the only staples will be one guy mostly on drums and another guy has all these weird circuit bent and noisy stuff, with a bunch of pedals. he really brings a whole new dimension. sometimes we will have this one guy that plays just guitar, and then my 2 good friends that I hang out with a lot will be switching off on the guitars and basses, some songs will have me on keys, it’ll all depend on what we feel like. going to be a cool psyche rock soundscape thing, can’t really describe it yet.
I’m about to quit my other band because the drummer is being a dick and they keep putting off recording our stuff, which I think we should do ourself instead of spending a bunch in a studio. I think they are going for a more over produced sound than what I prefer.
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
I’ve never really circuit bent anything myself, but it seems like a logical next place to go.
I actually only just started playing with tube amps. I have a Princeton 650 which is a nice solid state. Luckily, my dad has taken up the hobby of making boutique amps, so I have been playing more through those. Nice parts, tubes, and solid oak case make for some really great sound.
you can't beat 'em
esp. if you get the chance to push e’m a little. Almost every tube amp I’ve had sounds really great between the volumes of about 4 and 6. Much below 4 and they’re too plinky. Above 6, and they get too mushy compressed. Except my old Fender Bassman which sounds great all the way up to 10 (at which point small buildings begin to crumble).
youneverknow
boutique amps
a friend is making me one. Can’t wait. It’s going to have a built in 3 knob fender style reverb unit. I am a reverb-aholic. It will cost me quite a bit, but I think it’s going to be great.
youneverknow
Yeah
I really hope that my dad can sell some of his so that I can eventually have one free of charge.
He made a clone of a certain Marshall head, 18 watts. Beautiful and it sounds like nothing I’ve ever played before. Also, quite expensive.
me too
I really enjoy playing Bass & drums. I’m pretty good at Bass (had to play it in HS Jazz band when the prv. bass player graduated), but I suck at drums. Still fun though. Once in a while on a gig for a laugh, we switch instruments. I always get auto-shifted to Bass, but wish I could play drums.
youneverknow
not good at drums either
but I can play them minimalist style
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm more of a tonal player
add some nice washes and textures and make accents, that’s about it.
I can fake being a free jazz drummer pretty well though, I just need more time behind the kit since I hardly ever play
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
good chatting w/ you guys
got to go home now. That’s the most Ive ever posted in one day. I need rest…
youneverknow
I use my Rock Band guitar
in Easy mode.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 7, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
For anyone scrolling all the way down to the bottom.
Here’s a recap of the top portion of the thread:
-MLB Draft
-Beastie Boys
-Cameras & stabbing
-Lineup optimization (just 3 easy payments of $49.95!)
-Joe Strauss does chats
good sum up
merit badge for you
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'm going to start handing those out
the more people do my thing, the more honorary Molinas for [future date redacted]
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
You lose half a letter grade for not
putting the summary in haiku form:
Future Cardinals
Picures and white guys do rap
Joe Strauss should be stabbed
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
jimmy scores to tie it at 4 in milwaukee
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I believe this is from The Cat
Please do not post macros in reply…….
Cards lineup vs Cueto and the Reds – Skip 2B, Ryan SS, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Rasmus CF, Luddy RF, Molina C, Freese 3B, Waino SP… JH 12 minutes ago via web
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mildly surprised to see Freese starting instead of Floppy.
No qualms though.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally I'm surprised Larue isn't in,
considering he has DOMINATED Cueto for his career.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
yeah, when does LaRue get a shot at his old team
his stache is all ready and everything
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
12:35pm EST start tomorrow.
LaRue will be in then.
by notmorganfreeman on Apr 7, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
That .500 AVG and ridiculous slugging percentage is hard to ignore.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
On LaRue
I read somewhere that Tony wanted Yadi to start with Waino on the mound – don’t know why in particular, unless it has something to do with Waino’s not outstanding ST
because Waino likes to hug Yadi more.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I like it when they hug too

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 7, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what she said?
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on Apr 7, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
YES!
best one yet
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Though it would've worked even better had he said #2 hole.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
implication is enough
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
What's sad is that I was even TRYING to avoid getting TWSS'd
The original was “I hate Boog in the 2-hole”
I guess I should have just said “I hate Boog batting second”…ehh in a weird way you could TWSS that one too
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
sloppy seconds
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
how about "in front of Alber—"
wait.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wonder what kind of crafty lineup TLR will break out today
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
same as game 1?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
see above?
Cards lineup vs Cueto and the Reds – Skip 2B, Ryan SS, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Rasmus CF, Luddy RF, Molina C, Freese 3B, Waino SP… JH 12 minutes ago via web
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Affirmative. According to Jim "The Hairpiece" "The Cat" Hayes.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
...Hairball?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the other guys, from Leach
Reds:
1. Stubbs CF
2. Cabrera SS
3. Votto 1B
4. Phillips 2B
5. Rolen 3B
6. Bruce RF
7. Gomes LF
8. Hernandez C
9. Cueto P
-M.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Wait a minute ...
Have I lost my mind or is that the same lineup TWO DAYS IN A ROW FROM TLR???
I’m liking this season more and more every minute.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully Cueto's luck against the Birds runs out tonight...
PITCHING FOR THE REDS: Johnny Cueto. He dominated this team last season, going 2-0 with a 1.76 ERA.
Among the Cards, second baseman Skip Schumaker (5 for 11, double) has had the most career success against him. Brendan Ryan is 2 for 6 with a double and Jason La Rue is 1 for 2 with a homer.
Here's who I would be interested in looking at for the draft
must emphasize this enough, i am simply taking from FR. link here http://www.futureredbirds.net/2010/03/27/first-2010-draft-update/#more-4577
-Stetson Allie, RHP/3b, St. Edward HS, OH
Allie is as physically gifted as any player in this class. He has touched 99 mph on the mound and would also be one of the top power bats in the draft if he chooses to go that direction. As is typical with dual sport or two way players, he is raw, but the upside is as good as any player in the draft.
Aaron Hicks, anyone?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
that's a fantastic baseball name
but so many L’s
/esoteric nomenclature
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Intriguing based on the name alone.
I wonder if he smells of pine trees and musk.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
or explosions
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i did not know
that is a St. Joseph product
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Store that in your "things I'll never need to know" bank.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
until you're spying for the enemy
and you need to appear to know St. Joseph
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
HFS
I should memorize some advanced stats in case I have to pass among sabermetricians.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
just say "small sample size"
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ahahaha
if it comes to it, I could throw a pitch f/x then take off running.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
maybe that's what happened with the penny pitch f/x
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hide in the forest
if this kid is the next heyward
/i am not saying he’s the next heyward
/stalking is only creepy when you get caught!
/bring a boombox and a peter gabriel cd JIC
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
pine explosions is a first round reason alone
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
I know I shouldn't be surprised anymore
But the laziness involved in things like this that don’t bother to look past anything but the AL East in making their arguments never fails to astound me.
Also: Number of different franchises to win the World Series from 1920-1970: 13.
Number of different franchises to win the World Series from 1990-today: 12.
(Yes, I know, more teams now, etc…still.)
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
i think your argument isn't sound either
a 13 game small sample size against repeated 162 game samples?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
also there's that whole pennant thing
basically the only thing holding parity together is the crapshootyness of the playoffs.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
as in, how they decided the pennant
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Well, of course...
…and I’m not denying that this is an argument that I took all of 5 minutes to construct. I’m not saying there’s parity in baseball, I’m just saying that the situation is far less dire than many of the alarmists calling for massive restructuring and salary caps seem to think it is.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
i'm for a salary floor, meself
the thing is, in the quest for a crapshoot playoffs, they mean a lot less these days. it’s kind of like raising gators to dig into that rat problem…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also
stripes apparently really do not flatter cc’s shape (as in geometric shape, not the-best-shape-of-his-life)
The pinstripes are merely longitude lines on his giant globe of a belly.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i can see bermuda
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 7, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he likes his caloric intake
I wonder if he likes beer
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
can you eat it?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I wonder about a lot of things
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, now he just knows the answer.
He still needs to know the question.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
round is a shape!
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
Gordo on Marti Cazana...
For the moment, hemispheric traveler Amauri Marti Cazana sits in the crowded outfield at Memphis. The Cuban refugee (who is somewhere in his 30s) has spent the bulk of the last three years playing in Mexico. His career minor league/Mexican League batting average is .329 and his career slugging percentage is .542.
According to the Springfield News-Leader, he has a residence in Miami. He has a wife and baby in Mexico. He has played winter ball in the Dominican Republic and Venezuela, in addition to Mexico. His Cuban passport has expired.
It’s all very complicated. The Cards hope to work it all out and loan him to a Mexican League team, given the logjam in Memphis -– where Jon Jay, Tyler Henley and ’09 Cards short-timer Shane Robinson are hoping to play every day.
Amauri "LHC" Marti Cazana > "Sugar" Shane Robinson
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
my theory
Sugar is actually his henchman.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Maybe he's really 40 something and Shane is his kid.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
from the future.
that he had in the past.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
And he's been here in the present the whole time.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a good thing Albert knows all this, or they would be in trouble.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it looks almost as if Albert is touching the end of his nose
that would be oddly cute in a way
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I believe they call that a nose boop.
As in “I boop your nose”.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i thought man cards were revoked for using the word "cute"?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
man stew is still in play
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
we have sneaky speed.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
There is nothing sneaky about Bengie's flopping man boobs.
But Yadi can be sneaky.
You can read it in any tone you like.
it's a distraction technique
but man, Bengie is just… I can’t even look at that. even when he stands next to Panda.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
It's more forward movement than speed.
Speed would imply some sort of rapidness.
Rapidness? Rapidity?
Whatever.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose
here you go
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
stop man card theft!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he had to become a man sometime
today is the day
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
sorta reminds me of...

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 8, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
are you saying the spark of life is, like, right there in the photo?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
are you trying to tank?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Can't see as it would be a problem
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
lineup tonight in case it hasn't been posted
1. Schumaker 2B 2. Ryan SS 3. Pujols 1B 4. Holliday LF 5. Rasmus CF 6. Ludwick RF 7. Molina C 8. Freese 3B 9. Wainwright
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
who's pitching tonite?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that's the difference
is he better?
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
brewers catcher kottaras
never played baseball till he was 15 – played fast-pitch softball.
hoffman on for the save.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
So he had a sex-change operation at 15?
Is that what you are reporting?
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
"I met this girl online..."
“Cool dude, can we meet her?”
“Oh no man…she lives in Canada…”
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 7, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
From one of the greatest movies ever:
BENDER: When have you ever gotten laid?
BRIAN: I’ve laid, lotsa times!
BENDER: Name one!
BRIAN: She lives in Canada, met her at Niagara Falls. You wouldn’t know her.
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
someone was talking about baldelli the other day
he still wants to play.
feel-good article:
http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/pages/landing?Rocco-Returns-Home=1&blockID=210073&feedID=
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Stupid Carlos Gonzalez a leadoff hitter who hasn't had
even 1BB in the first 3 games and has 3ks
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
looked like a rough day today for him
if you don’t want him, we can offer you stav
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
btw, stav has 0 k's
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and all that Upside!!!
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I am not sure Stav would have 9 hits in 30 games let alone 3
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
but that's the thing
you’re not sure.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he does have GRIT
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Big Grit?
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
imagine his grit at coors
was the roof closed at miller today?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah it was a little cold
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
OT: What was that radio link that people were using last season?
I purchased Gameday audio last year, but I’m on a slightly more constrained budget right now, and I seem to remember a website that somehow broadcasted the Cardinals games over radio via the internet. I think it might have been out of somewhere in Oklahoma?
Any help on this would be great.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
toadonalump I believe
doesn’t work all the time, but maybe it will tonight (hope so)
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, thanks chitown!
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
On second thought
MLB has a deal that you can get 14 issues of SI and MLB at-bat with GD Audio for free, you just have to cancel the SI subscription before they automatically renew your subscription after the 14 weeks is up.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
flim'd
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 8, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
hey Cow, report to the draft room asap!
"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 7, 2010 5:31 PM EDT reply actions
oh man
should i try and watch the game at work or watch the archive when i get off at 9?
it’s slow right not, so, i’m inclined to try and watch
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
okay
i wouldn’t have questioned it before, but my new job is a lot more demanding. and when i’m busy, i’m just jusy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Hey, so
remember that time we were going to trade Anthony Reyes, Chris Duncan, and Colby Rasmus to the Marlins for Dontrelle Willis?
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
Hot Dam
I remember when the Phillies almost traded Howard and Utley to the A’s for Mark Mulder. (I miss he who shall not be named)
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Remember when Anthony Reyes and Chris Duncan had trade value?
In the end all we really got was two months of Julio Lugo for them.
padres?
i guess i forgot how that trade worked. it was a three way?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
and anthony reyes is an indian
i thought he went straight from st louis to cleveland
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
The Cubs have the most expensive tickets in baseball
at an average of $52.56 for non-premium sections, almost double the MLB average and just ahead of Boston and NYY (although the Yankees appear to be doing some funny accounting – “At Yankee Stadium, where some lower-deck seats without free food were reclassified premium at the request of the team…”). I wonder if Cubs fans think they’re getting their money’s worth….
big city + small stadium
is a pricey combination. Out of curiosity, what were the Cardinals? I feel like its always reeeeallly expensive to go to Cards games, but I guess a lot of it is collateral expense (read: beer per inning)
Full details can be downloaded
here. The Cards have an average ticket price of $30.14, which is $3.40 above league average. We’re 9th in the overall “Fan Cost Index” (the price of tickets, food and drink, parking, and some other shit for a family of four), at $216.56, compared to the MLB average of $195.08.
Twins’ ticket prices went up 45% this year! They’re actually higher than us in ticket price, although a bit lower in FCI. I guess they have to pay for that stadium and Mauer’s contract somehow. I wonder if we’re going to see a big jump when (please be when…) we re-sign Pujols.
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 7, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't tell DeWallet this,
but I would not be completely opposed to ticket prices going up if it means that Pujols stays a Cardinal for the rest of his career.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
I'm still trying to figure out if a donation scheme is possible
like, cap it at $500 to discourage, oh, I dunno, the mob
but if every St. Louisan contributed a dollar……
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the real trick is to make it tax-deductible.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think you've got something there
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
on top of the bake sales and raffles
that should get it done
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
imagine raffling off five minutes with Brendan Ryan.
think the players association would go for it?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i've never seen a rule against it
could we do a telethon too?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Celebrity auction
You could bid to have Carp carry your luggage, or for LaRue’s mustache or Franklin’s chin thingie, or to have Hawksworth stab someone.
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 7, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I'd be totally cool with that too
Not that it would affect me too much, because by the time the new contract kicks in I probably won’t be living in STL any more, so I’ll go to very few if any Cards games (at least at Busch; hopefully my wife and I will be moving to an NL city where we can catch them on the road).
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 7, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
same here, I'll be in Chicago
where I apparently have to pay the most of any cardinals fan to see them play
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
The trade off
is that the cheaper tickets at wrigley are actually pretty good seats. Provided that you don’t get behind a pole, the upper deck is closer to the field than the loge level at Busch. The physical seats themselves aren’t as big as a loge seat, but the view is better.
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
Right...
but then you have to stand in line for 2 innings to go to the bathroom and another inning just to get a beer and a hot dog.
Plus, you have to put up with Cub fans.
All for MORE money? It’s just not worth it.
I’ve been to Wrigley 4 different times and only enjoyed the time I got too hammered before the game to remember most of the game itself. Give me bleacher or all-inclusive seats at new Busch any day over the “Friendly confines”.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
hey bmorgan
if you’re around, i just got a call from chicago friends who are in town so their son can check out tulane (he’s a junior at mt. carmel in chicago – shortstop). anyway, they are staying in the french quarter but driving up here to our hood to pick me up – want to eat somewhere with live music that isn’t a big bar scene. know anything in these parts, or should we just head back to the quarter?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they're like bread
"Some of those bench players are going to get stale and you try to avoid that," La Russa said. "I don’t know if I can give them a lot of at-bats but you don’t want anybody getting stale."
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/apr/06/la-russa-faces-challenge-finding-playing-time-rese/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
also: Joe Mather prefers tea
who is this guy??
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'll take my stav stale. thanks, tony.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
apparently John Mabry is responsible for that loaf.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Astros swept by Giants, no game closer than 3 runs
Can we go ahead and consider them eliminated from postseason play?
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
They were mathematically eliminated
When pitchers and catchers reported
"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."
--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre
by Ted Glover on Apr 7, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the travails of the minors
features Evan MacLane considering Japan to survive
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
noooooo
not Samuel
there goes another backup plan
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he wasn't a backup plan
within the next three weeks
did you forget your flash cards?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
VEB hasn't made any yet!
get on that, VEB.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
salas is the mlb ready one
samuel is the one who hit the cards’ clubhouse in ST with a wild pitch
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
game thread up
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby
linky
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/4/7/1409400/game-2-open-thread-7th-april-2010
"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by 
























