Jaime Garcia and Brendan Ryan
by DanUpBaby on Apr 29, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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The Cardinals don't find themselves using very many rookie starters, so this doesn't really shock me, but I'm not sure I can think of one who's had a more generally impressive sustained month than Jaime Garcia. Of the rookies I could find in the Cardinals' rotation in the last ten years or so several of them have had fine stretches; Jason Simontacchi did the pitch-to-contact thing for a while to great effect, and Matt Morris, Bud Smith, and (to stretch the definition) Adam Wainwright mixed inspired pitching with occasional roughness. But only our Patron Tragic Hero had a month that was clearly better.Here are the numbers, if you're interested, though the weak-hearted might consider clicking through to the jump instead:
| PITCHER | MONTH | W | L | GS | IP | H | ER | HR | BB | SO | ERA | FIP |
| Morris | 5/97 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 41.0 | 35 | 12 | 2 | 11 | 29 | 2.63 | 3.22 |
| Ankiel | 9/00 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 32.2 | 22 | 6 | 1 | 11 | 40 | 1.65 | 2.16 |
| Smith | 9/01 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 24.0 | 13 | 7 | 4 | 5 | 18 | 2.63 | 4.49 |
| Simontacchi | 5/02 | 3 | 0 | 5 | 26.1 | 24 | 8 | 3 | 6 | 13 | 2.73 | 4.38 |
| Garcia | 4/10 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 26.0 | 16 | 3 | 0 | 9 | 17 | 1.04 | 2.93 |
Which is to say that Zack Greinke should talk a little sense into—
Which is to say, I guess, that even the best pitching prospects can break our hearts, and that it might take them more than a month to do it. But every new starter seems to possess some unique attribute that makes it clear he'll be the one to buck the trend; Anthony Reyes had his gaudy minor league numbers, and now Jaime Garcia has his extraordinary ability to adapt his gameplan to the strength of his pitches at a given moment. Starting pitching eluded us then, but that's no matter — tomorrow they will throw faster, perfect their mechanics earlier... And one fine morning— —
Which is to say, finally, that young starting pitchers make me even more nervous than they make Tony La Russa. But Jaime Garcia looks great right now, and if I have no reasonable way of predicting his future success that's fine. Right now all of his off-speed pitches work, and his fastball is about is good as a left-hander's fastball gets without engendering that Ankiel-ian sense of dumbfounded awe. As if that weren't enough he's the kind of pitcher that Dave Duncan seems to help, a third starter from birth who is able to gain an edge in St. Louis by doing without one walk per nine innings or adding a fractional ground ball for every fly ball he used to allow.
What's most fun about watching him now, though, is that the Cardinals don't need him. They aren't reliant on his continuing to pitch over his head, and it won't bring the team down when he finally allows a few home runs.
I'm more nervous still, of course, about Brendan Ryan. I've avoided mentioning him so far because he is, by now, my favorite Cardinal, and subconsciously I am convinced that if I avoid mentioning the fact that he is slumping about as badly as an offensive player can slump—the offensive equivalent of throwing several pitches over the catcher's head—nobody will notice it, and the whole thing will eventually go away.
Now, then, the subconscious mind moves to inexplicable cause-and-effect reasoning round two: the counter-jinx. Brendan Ryan is slumping about as badly as an offensive player can slump. Let's talk about it until we are proven wrong by a month-long offensive breakout.
Talking point one: He looks terrible out there. Resident video guru thepainguy, among others, expressed concern about this video, in which a number of hitting platitudes accompany a series of lunging, off-balance pop-up swings. It's a frightening video, and every hitting mistake since then has been built upon this unverifiable foundation. There's a new hitting coach, Ryan is more vocal than any other player about retooling his swing, therefore the new swing is making him hit like a pitcher, and not a good pitcher.
To make matters worse, Kawakami made him look particularly terrible today. Ryan didn't make good contact on a single pitch, and while he got deep into counts he also struck out looking twice.
Talking point two: His stats are terrible, too. He's always struck out more than his good-average no-power profile leads one to imagine he would—56 times in 390 at-bats last year—but yesterday's performance has left him striking out in 30 percent of his at-bats in April, which is deep inside Adam Dunn territory. He's not hitting a lot of line drives, he's got two extra-base hits, and the one thing that's working for him thus far is a propensity for walks that when hitting this feebly is more easily taken for a character flaw than a virtue.
We're certainly more amenable to high-walk/high-strikeout guys than the general baseball-fan population, but if his mental approach is better to this point he has not yet figured out how it will work better for him.
Anybody can have one bad month, and if there weren't so much for which we're able to exercise our attribution biases this slump might not be so worrying. But as someone who'd like to see less of the first video and more of this one, I hope this counterjinx is sufficient.
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Good post, about two of the four surprising developments that mark this (lovable) team. (The others are Colby’s and Penny’s interludes of awesomeness). I don’t think Garcia can sustain this level, but he seems to have skills that can allow him to adjust when opponents adjust to him.
Boog baffles me- unaccountably bad performance that looks as if he’s drowning. I expect him to get better,but I worry about loss of confidence – still like his D though.
I look at the box scores before I go to bed
and a piece of me just wants to know if Rasmus has drawn YET ANOTHER WALK. I mean, it’s nuts.
Bobby Cox apparently buys into his mystique
He intentionally passed him last night….
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Before passing Holliday to pitch to him.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Call me crazy...
But I think they lucked out with that ball getting by the catcher before the intentionally passed him to the open base to keep the double play in order.
Considering how shitty Kawakami is against lefties, pitching to Colby with the bases juiced had to have a run expectation of more than 1 I would think.
They only passed Holliday to keep the DP in order AND because they wanted the lefty-lefty matchup. Didn’t work out very well for them though, did it?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I initially read that as
shifty, not shitty.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I initially read this as
shifty, not shitty.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Stupid sbn.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of passing,
anyone see the story about Miguel Olivo passing a kidney stone during a game and then going back out to play?
I don’t care who you are, that’s Amaury territory. Eeesh.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Miguel Olivo = Real Man
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
But Al Hrabosky told me
players aren’t tough anymore. I’m so confused!
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 29, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Of Genius?
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
hmmm. a beer...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
oh shit today's game is at noon
thanks for reminding me, i got so used to the 7:15
today’s work day not looking so bad now
Pah, that's nothing
what about Bert Trautmann?
Named FWA Footballer of the Year for 1956, Trautmann entered football folklore with his performance in the 1956 FA (Football Association) Cup Final. With 17 minutes of the match remaining Trautmann suffered a serious injury after diving at the feet of Birmingham City’s Peter Murphy. Despite his injury he continued to play, making crucial saves to preserve his team’s 3–1 lead. His neck was noticeably crooked as he collected his winner’s medal; three days later an X-ray revealed it to be broken.
Yes, he played for 17 minutes with a BROKEN NECK.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
And didn't get it checked out for thee days?
HFS
Kind of puts to shame the time Brendan Shananhan was slashed, went in to get stitches, came back out on the ice and beat down the guy that slashed him.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 29, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
sports medicine in the 50's
the odd thing is that he got it checked out at all. toughness/suffering in silence was expected
Maybe it was the fact that his neck was crooked that tipped him off.
You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 29, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
"Why does mein gott-damned hat keep falling off?"
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm pretty sure
that was Scott Pellerin.
Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.
There was some NFL player, offensive lineman maybe
that played almost the whole game with a ruptured testicle.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
That pitcher of Garcia makes my shoulder scream
no wonder thepainguy thanks he’s headed for shoulder issues
"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister
ANY pitcher is a candidate for shoulder issues.
Comes with the territory. But yeah, my shoulder hurts just looking at it, too.
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Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.
by StanTheManFan on Apr 29, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
You can't even see what position
his shoulder is in.
Not that I’m one to completely avoid paranoia…..
See, maybe this just reflects some of the ridiculous elbow positions I've seen...
(see randy johnson), but I thought that looked like a healthy body rotation/shoulder turn that would help cut down on potential arm and elbow trouble in the future.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Possibly...but do you do that if you lose velocity because of it?
That’s the big question.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I'm going to have to plead ignorance on this one
because I must have missed, among the many MANY thousands of comments which I have missed lately, the losing velocity conversation. I would think (and this is really, utterly without merit, apart from minimal personal experience) that this is a pretty useful arm position and angle from which to throw a 2-seamer. You may sacrifice a little velocity, now that I think about it… but wouldn’t this be a bit of a change, with regards to velocity and movement, to the 4-seamer anyway?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm outing you. You're Dave Duncan
Are your charts ready for tonight?
:-D
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I literally just sat here and tried to write a comment
in the guise of Dave Duncan. For a few minutes. Before I realized that I cannot even hope to compete with this crowd on insider jokes. Or DD jokes. My best effort — who needs charts? Just throw the ball down!
Yeah… I’m not ready for the major leagues of fringe baseball-blog commenting.
Ah well, at least I realize my limitations and hope to improve, right? Just call me Jo-el.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought you did a pretty damn good job there
It was almost like you were Dave Duncan but didn’t want to totally let on that you were Dave Duncan. Maybe not major league, but definitely AAAA level.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Just wait
till I work my magic on some of these commenting prospects around here. I’m gonna have these kids all up in your shit in the next coupla years, throwing out stats that, while you’re not sure what they mean, you sure can’t refute. My boys will be putting up a 1.8GO/FO (that’s good objection vs. failing objection) rating, while consistently throwing comments into your perceived strike zone… and we’ll all nod knowingly when you swing and miss.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
He’s the Nick Stavinoha of commenters
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by jd is legend on Apr 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
damn it, jd!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Can't I at least be the Jason Larue?
guaranteed some playing time when I’m not hurt? and at the very minimum, when we’re playing the 3rd game of a series in which we’ve won the first 2?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
how much pain tolerance do you have?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
pain doesn't matter to him
he can handle pain… as long as his fingers will still type, he pound it out.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
but see... LaRue doesn't believe in pain.
pain is for other people.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
actual quote....
kindof:
pain . me . no. others. yes.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Dude....
you have no idea. I have to take into account my rookie-status within the organization.
Why yes, i have bought into the TLR era. How could you tell?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
also
my misuse of the hyphen. strange mistakes happen, rookie year.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
we appreciate the effort
the thing about Dave Duncan, though, is he doesn’t really… say anything.
he has a big binder…?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
As the saying goes...
Speak softly and carry a big binder.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Like a hundred-year-old Jon Voight. I will not let that one go.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
His car had a brief part on Seinfeld.
That’s all I got.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I see the resemblance there, too
Some day I am going to get really bored and finally spend a couple hours with Google Image search and make a Cardinals look-alike fanpost.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I see that
Something Something Something Darkside
Something Something Something 2 seamer down in the zone…
15 wins and sub-3.00 era here we come!
:=8D
I know its heresy to care about such things, but old religions die hard…
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Ryan Jackson can rake...
in addition to being a little Ozzie. Enjoy the Boog era while it lasts!
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
If that's the case
his kryptonite must have been those pesky aluminum bats they use in college.
He clearly hits better with wood. Well, in 2010 at least. He put up this line in rookie ball last year: .216/.297/.241/.538
Even Pete Kozma thinks that sucks.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Yep
I’m not sold on his bat being playable, just yet. Hopefully it is. Hopefully he is getting attention everyday, and making adjustments to his swing.
He'll gallop by Kozma...
next year, and send Boog to the non-tender list in ‘13. He’s maturing and getting stronger…
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
He's maturing?
He’s a month older than Kozma right now and he’s already bigger and stronger than Pete. If anything, Pete could fill out the next 18 months and start showing some promise. I’d put as much faith in this as I would Jackson doing it.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
He's real lanky...
6-3, 180… Both have potential to improve, but from what I’ve heard/read, Kozma isn’t much with the glove either.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
He's a month younger, not older.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
buried in that awfulness..
is a decent walk rate.
I’ll give you another one:
.222/.294/.256/.549
Pretty similar… That’s Ozzie’s 1981 line.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
of course, that was in the majors
ryan jackson did that at batavia
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
He's got a .350-odd OBP so far this year, and about a .300 BA IIRC
he’s doing better. Might be SSS, but I wouldn’t write him off just on the basis of sucking in 100-odd PAs in Batavia.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Jackson's stats weren't that impressive at the U either
and that’s with metal bats against inferior competition. I mean, I’m fine with no bat all glove SS, why else do we support Boog so much and why else does he have value. But he has to at least hit a smidge before we proclaim him as the heir apparent. What’s wrong with Tyler Greene?
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The thing that gets me...
is that he looks like an overgrown kid. It’s hard being 6-3, 180. We can’t really know what he’ll be until he fills out.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
so you're saying
i haven’t filled out yet?
awesome! thanks for the good news.
by longhornscardinals on Apr 29, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
OMS
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, i totally agree
I wasn’t that high on him when we drafted him and there’s certainly a good chance he’ll never turn it around, hitting-wise, to make the majors. He certainly needs to take several quantum leaps, and it’s debatable as to how much obvious projection he actually has. Still, he does have one excellent tool, so he’s one of these guys that IF he does somehow figure something out, might be useful.
Brendan Ryan never hit for shit at ANY level of the minors, and he still sorta squirmed his way up to a major league starting job.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
so we replace boog with boog?
not to be snarky, but that’s what it looks like. I agree with you, Jackson has some value, but I really think that if we get some offensive production out of our MIF, our team just becomes ridiculous. TGreene(heh) had himself a pretty good year in Memphis last year, adding value on the basepaths with his high SB%, and by most accounts, a very good glove. sure, he makes mistakes, but it would be erroneous to equate errors with production. I, just as much as anyone, want to see Boog produce, but let’s not over look the potential Tyler brings to the table.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I knew there was something weird about that....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. I'm not suggesting promoting Jackson! He's in low-A!
he would get murdered in the major leagues.
If you read all my posts in this thread you’ll see that I’ve gone from (at the start of last year) being a big Tyler Greene detractor, to being a very big advocate of his.
I think you’re reading something into my statements that’s not there. I’m cautioning people against completely writing off Ryan Jackson based on so-so college numbers and 100-odd ABs in rookie ball. I haven’t said anything here about Tyler Greene or Boog. They’re two completely different situations, and it’ll be at least 3 years before Jackson’s sniffing the majors in any case.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
murther! murther moste fowl!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
you know.... his name *is* Ryan....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
But is his middle name Wood
like the real Boog?
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
it's "C."?
but in the Cards, there’s always room for more Ryans. maybe even a Bryan.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
also
we found out this ST that since high school, Boog’s had wrist pain. significant enough that he couldn’t take as much BP as other players, if at all.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR & Hannibal Lecter Converse:
HL: “What does he do, this catcher you speak of? What is his nature?”
TLR: “He kills team batting averages!”
HL: “NOOO, that is incidental. He covets. And how do we begin to covet?”
TLR: “We covet what we see every day at Memphis.”
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
the phone is in the basket of adopted kittens.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
is this about hips clearing?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
He's hitting much better this year, so far, and taking a walk now and again
I’m not ready to give up on him just yet, I guess the transition from college to the pros can be a difficult one for a slap hitters. I still think there’s a chance he turns into Boog down the line.
Kozma, on the other hand, really needs to show something this year otherwise I think he’s a total bust.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Garcia in four starts:
Everything we wanted Mulder to be…
Jeff Jordan's dad can beat up your dad.
by flipthebird15 on Apr 29, 2010 9:06 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Not me.
I wanted him to be as young as the guy we traded for him, and as durable. What was that guy’s name….?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Kiko Calero.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Daric Barton.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Funny...
Mulder blew apart, Calero is unsignable despite being effective due to his fragile elbow, and Barton yanks a hammy every time the ball is hit to first base.
Only Haren remains.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
He's remaining pretty goddamn hard
Enough for the rest of the them.
(Also, Barton is off to a pretty good, if totally powerless, start.)
Erm, TWSS…
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Bite your TONGUE!!!
Did you see the picture above?
Why tempt the GOB in April. WHY?!?!?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
But has he thrown a 10-inning shutout yet?
Hmmm????? I didn’t think so!
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by jd is legend on Apr 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
That
video of Boog/Bombs was awesome….I love how serious Matt Holliday looked when he was being asked about his $34 shoes.
I sure hope Brenden starts hitting...
because every time I see him drop his head… my soul dies a little inside… I feel like Michael in lost… “My Boy’s out there… My Boy!” Oh Boog….
Brenden Ryan is my hero...
it's Brendan, FWIW (not Brenden)
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
it may explain her(?) depression.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
we're down there
the main page accesses all of ’em.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
though there are extras that are only on-air.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Great effort.
I appreciate it, it’s hard to navigate around while at work. Any video of Carp being a bad ass and possibly threatening them? I would think that would be high comedy.
that's what they call 'action'
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ryan just needs to get quirkier. The quirkier he get’s the better he hits. As a sidenote, who is Ryan Jackson?
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=jackso002rya
Shortstop for Quad Cities, all glove, no hit… But he has a good batting eye and I have a feeling he’ll get better.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Shortstop for Quad Cities, all glove, no hit
Alright, appreciate the link.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
he needs to re-grow the 'stache
/obvious
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
okay let's go reverse jinx
Boog, you’re terrible, terrible, awfully horrible, just abysmal. can’t keep you balance, can’t select your pitches; before you used to at least get yourself on base, drive someone in here and there; now, nothing, like someone broke the Boog
(go reverse jinx go)
2010 start #1 for
Tyler Greene today?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I think lots of people get a day off
Schu – 4
Luddy – 9
Holliday -7
Mather – 3
CR – 6
LaRue – 2
Freese – 5
Waino -1
Greene -6
And don't play Colby
at short. Unless you’re looking for a good time.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Colby AND Greene at short
should be interesting.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
Our staff does force a lot of ground balls. Perhaps Rasmus should play behind the second base bag on the fringe of the outfield?
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
the arch did move, btw.
they really ought to move it back.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan
His swing looks longer this year to me. I said this a few days ago, but I’m not a big fan of changing somebody’s swing when they are coming off a career year. I know it’s been a short career for Ryan, but does anybody really think he can be a better hitter than he was last year? I really don’t. Kind of think that is around his ceiling.
Either way, we have to get him and Skip going.
I think his '09
stats were actually ABOVE his ceiling (is that possible?). I don’t think his true talent is this bad, but I’ve never expected much more than Cesar Izturis numbers from him.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
He has more pop than Izturis and won't steal as many bases
but the career average of .260 is comparable to what Boog should level out at. I think he could hit .270 or .275 consistently if something finally clicks at the plate. There’s no guarantee though.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Lots of people here were of the opinion he could hit better this year
I am and always have been very much a naysayer. He was very lucky last year.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
(He's one of my 3 or 4 favourite players, too, I just don't believe in his bat)
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The opening of 'this video' in the above article
Watch his left ankle , the way he steps and then pivots the ankle seems much to think about in the fraction of a second a hitter has to react to a pitch.
I'll just go ahead and say it.
Even though I have a fondness for Ryan.
Tyler Greene is on the roster right now. I would not be surprised if he starts today. If Greene hits, which he did last year in AAA and has done this year in AAA, and plays decent defense, he could start to take PAs away from Ryan. And this is without even considering that Ryan may be going back to the DL with wrist issues.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
realistically, he has a much higher ceiling IMO
we’ve still not seen QUITE enough of Ryan to conclude that he is as quite as awesome with the glove as he looked last year (he’s definitely above average, I’m sure, which is pretty hard to do for a SS) but Greene has much more pop and, if 2009-2010 is anything to go by, can finally take a walk, at least vs AAA pitching. It’s just that contact rate that’s a concern. I think he’s ALMOST at the K-rate which precludes him hitting in the big at all, but if he can translate his last year of AAA numbers to MLB (even as an MLE), he’s got a good chance of being somewhere in the ballpark of average at SS.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
in a club
designed with pitching to contact isn’t a defensively above average SS with a bad bat a better situation than an an almost average SS with a bat that is (possibly) okay
i’ll take boog over t. greene any day
it depends, they're not discontinuous variables, are they?
and that’s not really what I was saying – Greene’s got a higher ceiling, in that I think it’s possible he could be an above-average SS, whereas I don’t think that’s a possibility for Boog. That said, Greene could also well totally suck, and I think (even if 2009 was a high watermark for his bat), Boog will always have some value because of his slick glove and the fact he can get on base a little.
In a club with a GB-inducing staff, a good fielding SS is enhanced in value VERY slightly, but if he’s still, say, 10 runs worse than the poor fielding, good hitting SS, I doubt it’s enough to bridge the gap. In any case, we don’t yet know that Greene will be better at hitting than Ryan as he’s got a very unusual skillset – so-so walkrate, quite a lot of power when he actually makes contact, but terrible contact/strikeout problems. He’s quite an extreme in a lot of areas, and it’s hard to know how well that’ll translate to the majors.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Switched to CNN a few minutes ago at work
Because the WWL is broken. Haha!
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 29, 2010 10:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
ok, fine, I'm a Boog apologist but I have a problem with this, for reasons I've outlined before.
Ryan essentially hasn’t had a spring training to work on his swing. That video is from the middle of ST, before he saw live pitching, and I’ve said it again and again, he needs to see live pitching. On a regular basis.
So fast-forward to his April, Tony sticks him in the 2-hole, and he, in his own words, is striking out “at an incredible pace.” Then he’s moved down to 8/9. He is, in what has become shockingly well-documented, since then working on his swing.
Self-quoting ‘cause I’m not doing the math again:
fangraphs
before that 12th inning, Brendan Ryan:
7 fly outs
9 ground outs (5 to third)
8 K’s swinging
2 singles
[ 1 line out, 1 sac bunt, 1 fielder’s choice, 3 BB’s plus 1 IBB ]
after that 12th inning:
7 fly outs
5 ground outs (1 to pitcher on a bunt, 3 to ss)
4 K’s swinging
5 singles; 1 double; 1 triple;
[ 1 line out / 4 if you count the "fliners", 1 base on E on bunt, 3BB’s plus 1 IBB
and 1 ʞ … Zito’s. ]
therefore, at this rate Brendan Ryan will be ⅔ the IBB of Albert Pujols.
by Yadi2Second on Apr 26, 2010 11:02 AM CDT
At the time, I was afraid he was going to back-slide because he was hitting it hard but right to shortstops. This is what he’s done since then:
4/26 T Hudson 03-B B. Ryan grounded out to shortstop (Grounder).
4/26 T Hudson 05-B B. Ryan struck out swinging.
4/26 P Moylan 07-B B. Ryan struck out swinging.
4/26 T Saito 08-B B. Ryan struck out looking.
4/27 D Lowe 03-B B. Ryan struck out swinging.
4/27 D Lowe 06-B B. Ryan singled to center (Grounder).
4/27 K Medlen 07-B B. Ryan grounded out to second (Grounder).
4/28 Kawakami 02-B B. Ryan struck out looking.
4/28 Kawakami 04-B B. Ryan struck out looking.
4/28 J Venters 06-B B. Ryan walked.
4/28 J Chavez 08-B B. Ryan flied out to right (Fliner (Fly)).
Meanwhile, I can’t speak for his swinging strikes, but his last four called strikes (going back to San Fran) … those might’ve been balls. Borderline calls; a few strikes on the inside were clearly balls. (Saito and Lowe did make him look a foo’.) In all those PAs he’s not reaching for the outside pitch, which drove us crazy last year. Unfortunately, the umpires were, too.
So what are we doing? Are we really averaging out several weeks of bad performance with a few weeks of improving performance within a small sample size? To hit the low-blow, Al, is that you?
Quite frankly you can’t go by what Boog says in FSM videos; he thinks mustaches are philosophical points of contention, and changed his underwear in his slumpbuster. I can’t believe y’all would look at that and take it seriously before he’s seen live MLB pitching. IMO we’re just pickin’ on him because he talks about it. What about Matt Holliday, who’s been relatively silent about his performance in the clean-up spot? Explain how there’s a fundamental difference between Brendan’s slump and his. (SSS!)
The looming problem is his confidence. Brendan Ryan is currently sharing the clubhouse with every single person not named David Eckstein who’s blocked him in his position since he was first called up. He is also recently quoted as worrying about whether Aaron Miles will take his job. The best thing for him to do is keep on working on it, and that…. does not bode well. If talk starts stirring up about it now, while he’s still making adjustments, the worst will be yet to come.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:05 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
screw cliff notes. my next sentence is WATCH THE GAMES.
it’s too early in the morning to be pilloried.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
and y'all are proving my point
you’re already lining up replacements. we’ve forgotten how long it took him to reach his offensive production last year (while his wrist was hurting), and how he did it.
The watched Boog is going to boil. Whatever pressure we’re putting on him, he’s putting a 100x more on himself. Talking about replacements in April, when we know what he did in January-February-March, is jumping the gun.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with everything that you are saying.
The question I am struggling with is…
Is this something he can work out of by playing every day, or is playing every day going to reinforce bad habits and a bad plate approach?
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I think this is a valid question
As Y2S mentioned, Boog is putting more pressure on himself than we can hope to. If that’s true, then are daily AB’s, some of which are necessarily (given the recent spat of close games) taking place in already high-pressure situations, really going to allow him to fix the underlying issues? Or are they simply forcing him to try something out once or twice before abandoning it in the face of a clutch AB?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
A slump is generally luck, but your mind feeds off the lack thereof.
And therein lies the dangerous aspect of it snowballing, making a player press. One day—hopefully, soon—Brendan will lace a line drive single. And the hot streak will snowball from there, and his mental outlook will change. Of course, the opposite could happen, too, but I think we’re far less likely to see a Tino Martinez-esque morass of sulking and non-production out of Brendan.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Self-pressure
Referring to Boog (from m’ship):
"He’s in Yadi’s class," La Russa said, referencing catcher Yadier Molina. "He could go hitless for the year and help us win."
TLR’s trying to impart some confidence.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
I fell asleep reading your post, but if you didn't mention it in the novel above...
Boog needs to keep it simple. It’s obvious that he is over-thinking every plate approach. The at-bat is taking place in his head. He’s guessing at almost every pitch.
See the ball. Hit the ball.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
they're throwing him crap.
and the umpires are calling them strikes. the book on Boog is hilariously simple (like… even I know it, and I’m just bad at pitch recognition) – get him to chase away and/or throw him inside.
he’s not chasing this year. this is huge. I’ve never seen him do that on a regular basis. thing is, the last two series, he hasn’t been getting the borderline calls. he may always be vulnerable to the inside pitch, but to close that hole in his approach is a big deal. and he is walking when last year he would have K’d swinging.
to answer your question above, my gut feeling is he’s got to play every day. 8 or 9 is the perfect spot for him, because he feels like he’s backing up Skip without doing too much damage.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
answered my question
before I finished asking it. Nicely done (as McNutty said to Stringer).
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
if he starts chasing again, slam down on the panic button. that means not only has the new swing failed, but the old bad swing is back.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno though
Some of his swinging strikeouts have been pretty awful. Whether it’s because he feels he’s getting killed by the umpires is anyone’s guess, but I can recall him swinging at pitches way out of the strike zone on at least a few of those occasions.
All that aside, if he continues to pick it at SS, I’m ok with his bat struggling a little bit. We need his defense on the field.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I agree. those ones make me wince.
that’s when I’m close to hitting the button.
the thing is, posts like these are going to turn into self-fulfilling prophecies. I’m not kidding about his paranoia – he’s been in our system since ‘03 and had about three cups of coffee before anyone noticed him. Now he’s sharing bench with Felipe Lopez, Tyler Greene, and just had that long talk with Aaron Miles. this guy is not that far removed from over-his-shoulder Memphis anxiety. I’m really concerned that’s going to derail him.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting
that our discussions at VEB are going to screw him up? If only we had that much power.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
are you suggesting
players are too dumb to google?
and there is evidence that he, or someone close to him, reads his clippings. assiduously.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Then that's part of his problem -- don't read the clippings, relax and play baseball.
If you think a post here, where we continually praise his defense and look for things he can improve upon is actually going to be worse than every Tom, Dick, and Harry on the Post-Dispatch boards calling for his head and Rick Hummel preparing to throw him under the bus by next week, I don’t know what to say.
If anything, I hope he reads VEB as we’re dedicated Cardinal fans and we aren’t overly harsh on the players for the most part (unless they’re Aaron Miles), rather than reading the garbage over at stltoday.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I did not say that.
I meant, propagating the talk that it is time to panic, on a blog with a reputation for temperate discussion on sabermetrics, is not going to help him. That kind of talk filters out to the likes of Derrick Goold, who is not every tom, dick, and harry on the P-D boards. This is not an argument about whether he should be listening to this, this is an argument about whether we should be giving this credence.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
There are no Toms and Harrys on the P-D boards.
Only Dicks.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 16 recs
I sit corrected.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
So I should drop my fanpost concept
of wondering if we should move him to the bullpen?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
are you kidding?!
he’d love that. I have him on video and in multiple newspapers that he’d be thrilled to pitch. he’s slathering for the opportunity. DO IT.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, he can't be any worse
than the current version of Trevor Hoffman!
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Considering that we had a 1000 comment thread last week
concerning whether Albert Pujols was struggling, well, I’d say this is small potatoes.
Again, I think you’re blowing this out of proportion a bit. You’ve now defended him pretty well on this board, so if Goold is reading the comments, which he probably does, then he’ll see that and make note of it as well.
If he’s going to be paranoid about everything that is written about him on some internet website related to baseball, he’s got a lot bigger worries than VEB, for one, and that mental makeup certainly is not going to help him succeed at this level when you fail 2 out of 3 times (if you’re HOF good) in front of 40,000 people every night.
FWIW, even by saber stats, he’s struggling. If he was so paranoid about getting sent down, I would think that his defense would have suffered by now, and it hasn’t.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
well, the other thing is, that wasn't even the point I was making
that’s what redbirdfreak thought I was saying. which of course could be totally unclear.
the post being a self-fulfilling prophecy was not causation to his being anxious. I was talking about the post fueling what’s already there. (which was the preposterous notion that Aaron Miles is a threat to take his job.) I was not saying our mentioning it will magically make him worse. if it could, he’d have a mustache by now.
okay, also unclear. let’s just say my point is more along the lines of, if we’re repeating what Al says on FSM, we’re helping put those questions in his face every day.
and honestly? I think his defense is the last to go. his defense is pure instinct. there’s almost nothing textbook about it. he can have two left fingers left and still throw out a runner. I don’t think we can get causation from that either.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
man, next time I think "self-fulfilling prophecy" I should just stop typing.
I’m not actually saying there’s causation. it’s a turn of phrase.
I will note, though, that Brendan Ryan talks to reporters more than any player I’ve ever seen in the Majors. I don’t think he has to look up his clippings to know what they are.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
So you're concerned that having
multiple players ready to take his job is making him struggle? Again, I don’t see how that’s any different than David Freese or any of the bullpen guys or any major league regular that’s not a better than average player.
If you’re Mitch Boggs or Blake Hawksworth, you saw what Fernando Salas did in ST and what Sanchez is capable of doing you know that if you don’t pitch well you’re probably getting shipped back down.
If you’re Freese, Lopez was brought in basically as insurance in case you fail, and the insurance policy cost more than twice what you’re making.
I don’t see what talking about it on a blog has anything to do with helping to fulfill his paranoia. If he’s paranoid about someone taking his job and his performance is hurting because of it, perhaps he should look at how he started last year and take some comfort in the fact that Tony stuck with him for the rest of the year.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
How is this any different from any other year he has ever played?
Every year at every level, someone was trying to take his spot.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
because it's not
see below. I wasn’t saying that, re: your last paragraph. I thought they were arguing about the influence of VEB. serves me right for deploying against two different arguments.
the point is, though, as irrational as it is, and I fully acknowledge that it is, he has a history of worrying about it. publicly. without being asked about it. to the point where it’s the only negative thing he’ll say in several minutes of interview. year-after-year.
trying to apply rational logic to Brendan Ryan is an uphill battle. you have to listen to what he really mentions, and what he’s really saying beyond the party line. (which he does a lot, since he’s gotten in trouble for not going with the party line.) I don’t say this stuff with one data point, from one season.
I agree with you that he needs to stop it, but I have no evidence that he won’t keep on gnawing on that worry. this is the guy who got benched for one day and begged to pitch in the 25th just to get back in. the behavior is the same from year to year — I really thought/hoped it would change under different circumstances, i.e. he’s a starter, but it’s been the same as when he was a scrub with a cup of coffee.
so when my hypothesis is that he’ll settle into his swing if he just trusts in it and mentally dogs through it, that kind of loss of focus is pertinent to my argument.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR
Probably allayed some of those fears with his comments that bgh posted below. He’s on the veteran wagon right now, so he’s not going to lose his spot. Remember, Yadi hit just above the Mendoza line in one season and played 140 games. If TLR values his defense that much, he’ll get the Walt Weiss/Mike Gallego treatment.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Questions.
How many wagons are there?
Did Adam make them?
That is all.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
LIES.
I want a graph.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
yep, one hopes.
that happened in the midst of this thread, aye.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
moreover, my point on his paranoia
is from HIS quote, unprovoked and un-asked for, in the Globe Dem, with glaring similarities to quotes from several outlets when he was struggling with everything.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He can't control everything written about him.
So he should just stop reading everything altogether.
If he’s going to be worried about what people say about him constantly, he’s not going to be a successful MLB player by any measure. You have to tune out the noise.
He should talk to Mac about this. He went through some struggles mid-career due to cat-callers and the media, and the whole steroid thing was a media mess, so I would guess that he’d have some perspective on it.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
agreed.
It’s like a politician worrying that a certain percentage of people hates everything he does. Bad news buddy… no matter how good you are, you’re still failing a majority of your public, a majority of the time.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
(also, and I have no hard evidence for this
I think some of the people around him are feeding him clippings. I don’t think he can really stem the flow. especially since the reporters themselves love to chat him up.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Why do reporters love to chat him up?
Because he’s always good for a good quote. The impersonations and the general jovial attitude he gives off when everything is going well feeds that.
But you can’t just go to the dark side when someone says something bad about you. It’s baseball, you’re going to fail. You have to deal with that failure using a positive attitude if you’re going to get anywhere as an MLB player.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that's not what I was saying!
see above.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
I will suggest, however, that if he’s so fragile that this discussion derails his ML career, then he’s not likely to have much of a career in any case.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
see above.
and: have you met Brendan Ryan?!!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
I’m mystified about your argument here. Are you an immediate family member of his? Boog is clearly one of the most popular Cardinals on this site; there are many, many other places he can go and find much worse things said about him. He’s surrounded by players and coaches, many of whom have had their own struggles, and his best resources for getting his hitting back are right there in the locker room. He’ll probably figure things out and bounce back. If he doesn’t, his baseball career will suffer. Just like the careers of a million other guys have. What does it matter that a few commenters here are speculating about the consequences of this slump?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
that's still not what I was saying!
see above.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
in fact, that's what *you* said I was saying, which makes it rather hard to refute.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
My apologies if I've
misread anything, but I’m not sure I have. It looks like you have an issue with what some people on VEB are saying … and that directly or indirectly those comments might make Boog’s troubles worse?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
oh good lord.
I should have had a paragraph break between self-fulfilling prophecies and the anxiety part. will y’all calm down? when you reply to me, “are you saying these blogs have any power”, and I have about two dozen direct links from official news organizations to VEB, including articles, of course I’m going to argue that. I argue it every time.
that is a separate idea from “Brendan Ryan worries about x things, and I have the quotes to prove it, therefore I will surmise that he will worry about x things in the future.”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I am as calm
as can be. But I’m still mystified why you’re not calm. On one hand you’re implying there is some causation involved. You just did it in your 1st paragraph—if VEB has some influence, it stands to reason that our discussion of Boog will have some influence. In other comments you’re denying you suggested any causation. Then you say “let’s just say my point is more along the lines of, if we’re repeating what Al says on FSM, we’re helping put those questions in his face every day.” So, again, we’re aggravating the problem.
And re your 2nd paragraph, I have no problem with that concept — I never have. But what am I supposed to do about it?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not calm because I've been repeating my clarification several times
and I’m getting to the “re-pasting comments” point of the thread. including the initial comment.
I’m gonna try one more time, and if that’s not clear enough, I’m outta here.
Two concepts. Brendan Ryan has a history of being anxious about certain things.
VEB has influence.
unconnected!
I apologize if you thought they were. I endeavored to clarify that, despite your saying that I must be related to him to be defending him like this. hello ad hominem.
I will, and will always argue with anyone who suggests that what we say on a blog has no effect whatsoever, which you started up with your comment.
I did not realize at the time that you really think that I utterly believe talking badly about Ryan will kill his game. I heard some of the slurs he got in the on-deck circle in his home park, and it didn’t change his game one whit.
Re: the second paragraph: that was my point. we were discussing what we really ought to be worrying about Brendan Ryan’s downswing, and I cited that — there are certain issues that can derail his focus, and that is one of the documented ones. it’s a red flag to read that in an setting where the reporter didn’t ask for it, and I am eager for that to not become a trend of red flags.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
OK, I'm ready for
a truce. I’ll happily put this conversation to rest but I must point out I’ve never believed that comments on a blog have no effect whatsoever. But I don’t think they’re a big deal either. The whole reason I weighed in on this is that I could see that you were really rolling on this subject and I couldn’t understand why you were so serious about it. Really, look at the quantity of words you’ve expended on it this morning! You made me believe you were tremendously concerned about Ryan’s state of mind—the way one of his personal friends or relatives would be concerned. Read your own posts and imagine how someone could reach that conclusion, it’s not unreasonable.
End of topic AFAIAC. Let’s play ball and kick some Brave ass.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 29, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think something he needs to add to his skill set,
that Skip has seemingly added to his, FWIW, is that he needs to be able to spoil pitches that are close by fouling them off.
That way he’s not at the mercy of the umpiring, which was awful last night imo, and it makes him a tougher out.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that's what he did last year... and then he'd strike out swinging.
I agree that might be good to add in after he’s gotten into his proper groove. he’s just got to have confidence in what he’s doing.
personally, I’m looking at it like he’s two weeks behind everybody. so wherever Skip was two weeks ago, that’s where Boog is now.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps Bombs presence is too distracting?
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
that's what they all say, ghostrider.
that’s what they all say.
but seriously, Bombs is busily trying to help him, as per The Cat. better than nothin’.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
If you even try to pin this on Bombs....
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree that we're focusing on Ryan and ignoring Holliday's slump becuase Brendan is talking
Lego needs to go back to the windup when hitting with runners on he’s failing out of the stretch (high leg-kick joke!)
Of course, Brendan does worry me more for one big reason, he seems visibly frustrated. Visibly frustrated is bad.
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 29, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
he's always like that.
people get fooled by postgame antics, but his game-face when Colby doesn’t hit a homerun has always looked like this. he always throws his helmet. as pointed out by someone, he’s literally kicking himself this year. after quite a while of Boog-watching… he actually looks calmer this year.
he looks visibly frustrated because he wants every single pitch to be a hit. results-wise, I don’t care about that; he can bite his shoulder till it bleeds for all I care (but don’t go on the DL!!) what he does with that energy matters.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we're ignoring Holliday because...
he has an established history of great hitting. There’s no reason to think he won’t pull out of his slump.
In contrast, Ryan has had an inconsistent career hitting-wise, and has less room for error (even when he’s hit well, it hasn’t been THAT good).
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
And the fact that we're paying him a king's ransom.
And recognizing his slump would remind us of just how much the man is making.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
rescind the pies. where are the expectations for Lego Man?
though, I am impressed with his defense. he took a nut shot and lived, even. work on his arm, and he’ll be passable.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I've been pleasantly surprised by his throwing arm
He’s had quite a few accurate, strong throws into second base this year.
not me
i see guys tagging and going 2nd to 3rd on him.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I said it last night,
The only outfield arm we have that seems to be worth a damn is RFL!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
mark my words...!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's what strikes me as turning this into a Lohse-like argument
we agree that Boog’s changing his swing, is coming off surgery, and didn’t have all of Spring Training. and yet we’re not treating this month like an outlier when the one thing we can say about him is he does better after seeing more live pitching?
it’s like expecting Skip to have perfect defense April of last year.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
the problem is discerning what is truly an outlier for Boog....
And I don’t think your comparions are apt. Lohse has an established record of performance as a major league pitcher. I don’t think most are complaining about Lohse’s performance per se; the complaint is mainly his performance in relation to his contract.
As for Skip, he was learning a position he had never played at the ML level. No one expected him to play perfect defense in April, or even by the end of the year.
For Boog, he has always been a light hitting SS – and “hitting” isn’t something that he’s just trying to do for the first time. His minor league numbers weren’t particularly good. And his performance in the Majors has been very inconsistent, so it’s certainly no guarantee he’ll even be as good as he was last year (in fact, it’s unlikely).
I’m fine with Boog trying to work out of his slump, hitting at the end of the lineup, and providing most of his value with his glove. But Boog’s leash isn’t limitless.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 29, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
re: Lohse-like argument
I’m talking about VEB’s track record talking about Loshey’s injury year.
I disagree that changing a guy’s swing is a minor development — it is like hitting again for the first time. Unlearning is very, very difficult for anything.
I do agree it’s not limitless. but apparently it’s very long.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Another good point in your argument
would be that Boog was hitting .226 as late as May 22 last year and recovered to post a .292 AVG.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
We're ignoring the elephant in the room
And tiptoeing around it with psycho- and swing analysis.
Ryan is a better hitter with the ’stache. Yes, he was off to a slow start last year as pointed out by Ghostrider, but became a different hitter when the ’stache grew in.
(There’s so many inside memes and anti-memes here, so I’m probably breaking a ton of your unwritten rules by mentioning this)
by olddomination on Apr 29, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
(that's actually statistically untrue. he was the last guy in the clubhouse to grow the stache
and keep it – sorry Thompson and Rasmus)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew he jumped on the wagon late
That’s why I was thinking early June for his stache, around the time he started heating up
But if it was just before the All Star break, then my point is invalid.
by olddomination on Apr 29, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
stache month was July.
the halcyon days of 2009 actually didn’t last that long on the calendar.
they did feel like forever, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly. I'm shocked that it's a front-page post panicking about it.
that’s only going to spook him, and then we’re really gonna be screwed! AARON MILES HERE WE COME.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I think that Brendan now has enough
“veteranness” that Tony aint’ gonna replace him. Sure, he’ll sit him occasionally ‘cause that’s that TLR does, but I think Brendan is TLR’s guy now.
yeah, that's the thing
I believe that too. the trick is, does Brendan buy it?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
TLR said Ryan was in the Proven Veteran Zone.
According to the daily must-read 10@10 by Derrick Goold:
Shortstop Brendan Ryan is in such a dastardly spiral that La Russa couldn’t fault him Wednesday for breaking the unwritten rule of not letting an opponent sense frustration. Ryan has broadcast his. But that .159 average may not hurt his playing time as La Russa fired up the ultimate compliment for his nimble infielder.
"He’s in Yadi’s class," La Russa said, referencing catcher Yadier Molina. "He could go hitless for the year and help us win."
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Wow
Quite a turnaround from previous years. At this rate, TLR is going to totally heart Colby in a few months.
Jobu needs a refill
Yep
Colby will totally be in Boog’s class in a few years.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Colby may nearly be there.
He does not have a free pass, but he has graduated from the “Rookie, you have to prove yourself” class to TLR projecting him to be good, explaining away his rough 2009, and labeling him “hungry” (which is very good in the mind of TLR). At least that’s what I got from Leach’s post.
I asked TLR about it tonight, and he said he definitely thinks that Rasmus can be a high-average hitter.
“Absolutely,” he said. “Last year, remember, he got sick. He had a decent year going — a good year going — and he just got weak and he had to get through that. Now he’s stronger. The bases on balls are a good indication. He’s seeing the ball better. He’s got a lot of hunger, that hitter-ish hungry feeling when he goes to the plate, wants to keep having at-bats. Yeah, he’s definitely a high-average hitter.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I'm going to have to apologize here
because my posting to date hasn’t given ya’ll any reason to assume that I’m employing sarcasm. I think even TLR realizes that Colby may be Major League ready, even to the point of abandoning any platoon aspirations. Looking at defense + lefty splits, I think (hope) TLR believes Raz is ready for the big time.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
And I think you would agree that there is a difference between where Rasmus is now and “in Yadi’s class.” I think Rasmus will get to that level, for sure, but he is not yet there.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
fair enough
but I guess what I was talking about is that Rasmus is very quickly getting to the point of irreplaceable, when you combine offense and defense. A la Yadi. Granted, it will take some time before that is objectively proven, or even predictive, but I think he’s getting to the point, including defense, where having him in the game is nearly always more productive than playing a replacement. If that’s not “in Yadi’s class,” then what is?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
the point may be defense.
esp. to the Cardinals org.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
and especially in such an important position
hell — even if (when) he regresses to hitting .280 with an .850 OPS… assuming he falls even below what his minor league numbers would suggest, he plays a position that the Cards have traditionally valued defensively. I agree that I may have been premature, but I guess what I’m implying is that Colby is virtually guaranteed a roster spot, in the same way that Yadi is. Any RAR from a hitting standpoint is icing on the cake.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
since catcher defense is such a hot potato...
I’m wondering if there’s any way to quantify how much a MI is in terms of pitcher value. because it would be cool to turn to someone and go, you know, he’s .233 of a pitcher.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the implication
that MI is more important defensively than the CF… and no more so than in a DD pitching scheme. However, TLR, whether rationally or otherwise, obviously believes in the importance of a CF who can, as they say, patrol the outfield.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
However, TLR, whether rationally or otherwise, obviously believes in the importance of a CF who can, as they say, patrol the outfield.
Aaron Miles?
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why i think boog has no immediate worries
so long as pitchers like waino talk about how comforting it is having boog behind them, boog will be behind them.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
now, i never said they were rational worries
the rational worries I think he can handle.
the ones that he solves with new thongs, those are brow-raising.
[facepalm]
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
It's grit and smarts and intangibles.
TLR also likes “nice legs.”
I actually think Colby’s NLDS performance went a long way in proving himself to TLR.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
except for when those nice legs got him thrown out at 3rd
tlr didn’t like that too much
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true.
But, you could tell that TLR had a plan coming into Spring Training that involved Rasmus hitting behind Holliday, and that says a lot to me.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
but does he know his name....
predicting TLR is like predicting the weather.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m surprised people aren’t talking about his lack of ST, as well as him retooling his swing. no wonder he is off to a slow hitting start, but his defense makes up for it. he’s still better than tyler greene (unless t. greene proves me wrong and starts hitting)
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
tea greene was a disappointment this past ST.
I was expecting more
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
brendan needs some time off
it’s rather unfortaunte that the cards don’t have many options for boog right now. i think he just needs some time off.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
Felipe Lopez for closer!
Revive the stache, Boog.
I would say that's exactly what he doesn't need.......
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think today would be a good day for him to be off.
Pujols is out, Molina probably out
Make him feel comfortable by treating him like other key starters.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
There's a difference between a day off,
and some time off.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
also, hahaha
Brendan had a day off, and subsequently begged to pitch in the 25th inning just to get in the game. then look what happened.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
what does he need time off for?
to beat himself even more over not being able to hit and them leaving him out of the games?
Are we talking about BR or Kaheel here?
2010 St. Louis Cardinals - Sinkers and Dingers
by jd is legend on Apr 29, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
boog definitely
Khalil’s off-field problems got worse whenever he started hitting.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Boog did make an utterance
regarding keeping sharp objects out of his sight.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Worst baseball headline ever...
from Tim Brown, Yahoo Sports, on the Indians’ Shin-Soo Choo (Tim probably doesn’t write the headlines):
“He’s become Big League Choo”
This really annoys me, dunno why…
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Love the Gatsby reference
makes this English teacher smile. :)
I’m impressed by Garcia’s ability to induce weak swings. Santa was the only Brave to have a hard hit ball (2). I saw alot of defensive swings that produced easy ground outs.Whatever that off-speed breaking pitch is (screwball?), it’s devastating down in the zone.
Even the Braves were impressed—see the PD’s game story.
The offspeed pitch probably is a back-up changeup
based on what I saw during innings 1-7 of the game that never ended.
His grip/release would make the ball do that.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
after garcia pitched against the mets
ron darling, doing the tv broadcast back in new york with the cubs in town, started talking about garcia and said he hasn’t seen that much movement on a changeup since young johan.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that guy has two N's.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice Great Gatsby reference, DanUp
Kudos to you.
Re: Boog, I wonder if MdRedbirdFreak above is right – maybe last year was somehow “above” Brendan’s ceiling, or the equivalent of Ludwick’s 2008 — i.e., he’ll never get back to that level, and we’re looking at our own version of Adam Everett here. Hope not, but trying to be realistic….
Nice Great Gatsby reference, DanUp
Kudos to you.
Re: Boog, I wonder if MdRedbirdFreak above is right – maybe last year was somehow “above” Brendan’s ceiling, or the equivalent of Ludwick’s 2008 — i.e., he’ll never get back to that level, and we’re looking at our own version of Adam Everett here. Hope not, but trying to be realistic….
I appreciate the momentary thought that I might be crazy
and seeing in double.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
My Take
Brendan is currently walking at a clip of 11% and striking out at 30%. Both career highs. He will regress to the middle
Gotta be the Eyes
Truth is, Boog looks lost at the plate. Maybe his eyesight is the issue – it’s as though he doesn’t see the ball. He’s swinging and missing like he needs a tennis racket at the plate. And, while he is taking borderline third strikes, those pitches are better than most of what he is swinging at. Check the eyes, man, check the eyes!
SD
that's possible. he wears corrective lenses.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe his eyes are drying out.
I know McGwire had problems with that.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know why anyone hasn't really thought of this
but maybe he’s just not very good at hitting, and has been unlucky?
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah that'd be my guess
and thats just a terrible combo.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert out of lineup today.....
Day off….lineup to follow per FSMW tweet.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
didn't know he had any power
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
15 HR in 388 PA in Memphis last year.
he has quite a lot of power for a SS, he just struggles to use it because his contact rates are so poor.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Dal's career AB was only .217
But he has 4 rings. Does Boog need to hit?
We need the D.
The sun don't shine on the same dog's ass all the time. - Catfish Hunter
Different era.
I don’t think any current team can survive for long with a Belanger/Everett type guy in the lineup.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Sure we're older now
But Dal was winner in his day, and so is Boog is my opine.
Why change a good thing? Why does he need to hit 2009 to be in the lineup? The D is key.
The sun don't shine on the same dog's ass all the time. - Catfish Hunter
Epic Cards Talk post...
Post subject: IMO, Jaime Garcia Should Become 4th Man In Rotation
Posted: 28 Apr 2010 21:27 pm
And Lohse moves to 5th. Jaime has earned it.
I think the guy also created a thread asking where
he can get a copy of the key for the batter’s box.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i worked for a minor league team last summer
and we got a guy to go ask a coach for the key to the batter’s box and later had him go ask for a box of curveballs. i couldn’t believe he actually fell for it.
Carp and Garcia switched places...
the first week of the season. I didn’t support that move, but it is what it is…
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Unless it's the playoffs, the rotation doesn't matter.
Sure, you can skip a guy’s start from time to time, but the idea of establishing #1-#5 is unnecessary.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
so... Garcia is our #1?
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
What is with people's obsession with rotation number?
I don’t get it, that’s all non-hardcore people ask me about the Cardinals. “Wait Penny is the 3 not the 4???”
Not afraid to nitpick
I personally think...
your more of a joker22, maybe joker23.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
by guayzimi on Apr 29, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
This rotation goes to 6.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on Apr 29, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's called "Lick My Love-Pump"
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lineup
skip
lud
holliday
rasmus
freese
molina
mather-1b
wain
greene-ss
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I don't know.
How bad can a lineup with Luddy, Holliday, and Rasmus be? It’s a throwback 2009 type of lineup, I guess, which is not good, but it is not awful, either.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Agreed
I also like the fact that they aren’t moving Ludwick around just because Albert isn’t in there.
There’s one saying I live by, and that’s: “Don’t fuck with a streak.”
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
There's one saying I live by,
and that’s “don’t fuck with a steak”.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
there's one motto i live by
fuck and steak.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Preferably not at the same time, though.
Unless…
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Unless you're George Castanza.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
heh yes
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
2 girls 1 ribeye?
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe then they would be eating food.
Instead of…um…recycled food?
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
sammich'en
and switchin’
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i give new meaning to the word
T-Bone
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is in Atlanta
And for Monk, it’s evening.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
late afternoon
just polishing off the tea and scones before I break out the G&T.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think that's
exactly what it is that they’re going for.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Is it just me?
Or does anyone else think this lineup actually has potential? Maybe not as a 2010 lineup, but picture this in 1983.
a crafty leadoff hitter who rarely strikes out.
a guy with an almost-400 OBP this year
the classic OPS guy, before that was the rage — basically, a guy who hits for average and power
XBH’s, all the way — not to mention a 1.200 OPS
a .300+ BA, someone to drive in runs that the cleanup guy misses.
savvy veteran, gets on base, rarely strikes out (but disregard the lack of speed)
an unproven rookie, but one who shows a little pop at times
an all-defense 8-hitter who’s OPS’ing just over .600 (and… in a slight concession to modern times, is also a Cy Young candidate)
a guy who gets on base enough just enough to increase your heart-of-the-order guys’ RBI chances, while still providing acceptable defense.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
and it might work for a sitcom, too.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait, let me clarify
Does this lineup have potential to beat the Braves on Thursday?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
wainwright's on the mound
so, yes, i guess…
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
point taken
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
My (off-the-cuff) guess is
neither does the methodology.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
It's based on keyword searches, or something.
I was told there would be no math.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
GIBO
Garbage in; garbage out.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Do you mean
GIGO? or does B=bullshit?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I conflated the expression with its PG version.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Top 10 most hated...
1. Cleveland Indians … 0.9
2. Boston Red Sox … 1.1
3. Cincinnati Reds … 1.5
4. Houston Astros … 1.8
5. New York Yankees … 1.8
6. Washington Nationals … 1.9
7. Chicago White Sox … 2
8. Baltimore Orioles … 2.3
9. New York Mets … 2.3
10. Los Angeles Dodgers … 2.4
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
can they correct for self-loathing?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
No.
Which makes this survey stupid. They typically use it to evaluate products, where there is much less likelihood that people will “self-loathe”.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
computers don't hate themselves, I guess.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
There is no way that the Cubs aren't in the top 5
and no one cares enough about the Astros to hate them.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
The odd thing here is that the survey
is postulating that enough people know of the existence of the Chicago White Sox AND a significant portion of those people hate them.
hfs
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
this is such a great example of FESPN.
honestly, the headline is totally misleading and stupid. if they actually conducted a poll asking the average baseball fan who thier most hated team was, the red sox, yankees, mets, and dodgers would probably be at the top, given their histories and heated rivalries.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Yeah.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Ratings based on...
The company’s computers counted the number of times that a particular team was connected to both positive words like “love” and negative words like “hate.” It then balanced them out on a scale of -5 to 5 and ranked them.
With that in mind, I think VEB alone would put the Cardinals popularity at a push. Negativity balances out positivity, and vice-versa.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
so... they can't correct for self-loathing.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
That explains the Nationals' ranking.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
amen.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
And precisely why
this methodology is flawed. Teams like the Indians, which suck right now, but have strong fan bases and a (relatively recent) history of quality play would, I would guess, have more of their actual fans badmouthing them, as opposed to actual haters.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
I'd love to see an indifference scale.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
My guess: Pirates, Royals, and Padres at the top.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
I’d love to see an indifference scale.
I don’t think I’d be that bothered about it, tbh.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they may not give a fuck.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Nobody cares enough about those teams to make a ranking for them
Sad and meta at the same time.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it's like
how nobody knows who Chase Utley is.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing that an overwhelming number of the hits they got which conflated "hate" and "Indians"
were probably based on the Pakistani government’s servers.
(/politics…)
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
That's odd
Oh wait, it probably can’t search SBN comments since they’re in a database, can it? Otherwise, it searches BCB after one bad Zambrano start and the Cubs are at the top of the list.
I think that's probably because
most of their fanbase hates them right now too. I don’t get Cleveland — they’ll keep showing up and pounding $12 beers to watch a pathetic football franchise that hasn’t sniffed the playoffs since they were reformed, but when their baseball team tries to rebuild, they rebuke it.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
The Cliff Lee and Victor Martinez trades
really crushed the fanbase there.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I suspect the CC Sabathia trade had a negative impact, too.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Also the fact that Matt Laporta hasn't done anything yet.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
LaPorta'll come round I think
he’s barely had 250 major league PAs and his BABIP looks a bit unlucky so far. I still think he’s going to be a very capable LF.
That said, I’m not that convinced he’s that much better as a player or prospect than, say, Allen Craig is.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahahaha
Yes, I’ve cracked.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
heh. really?
about LaPorta struggling, or dealing CC, or what?
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
The Indians.
Really about Grady. I would like him back.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, you are completely correct.
He’s nowhere near done in the big leagues, but if he had an instant impact, it would probably help stem the anger of the fans.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
The Victor Trade had a much bigger effect in my opinion.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
The haul for the V-Mart trade was OK I think
Masterson alone, for 6 cheap years, was a decent pickup, given V-Mart only had the rest of 2009 and a $7m option for 2010. I realise the other two guys haven’t done a great deal and are only marginal prospects, but Hagadone has good stuff by the looks of it and I wonder if he won’t ultimately end up as a good arm in the pen. I don’t really know anything about Price but he looks uninspiring, although I hear his stuff is good.
FWIW I think Martinez is a bit over-rated. Yeah, he’s a nice hitting catcher, but unlike Mauer or McCann, I’ve not heard anything to suggest he’s other than a poor defensive catcher. His arm is weedy and I’d be surprised if his receiving and blocking skills were above average.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 30, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Cleveland Browns, 2002 NFL playoff participants
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Browns
2010 St. Louis Cardinals - Sinkers and Dingers
by jd is legend on Apr 29, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I do hate their guts though.
They deserve to rot in inferiority for the next 20 years for all I care. You don’t cheer when a guy, no matter how bad he is, gets injured (Derek Anderson).
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
The way Boog is hitting now (or not, actually)
while at the same time relying on his D to keep him in the lineup despite the slump, takes me back to the mid-60s, and our notoriously bad-hitting, slick-fielding future GM, Dal Maxville.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 29, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions
Boog's April:
SSS.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Apr 29, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Super Sensationally Shitty?
T. Green for SS
by paposse on Apr 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sucky mcSuckerSon?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Apr 29, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Slow Slow Start
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Skip Schumaker's Sidekick?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Apr 29, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Correct answer
2010 St. Louis Cardinals - Sinkers and Dingers
by jd is legend on Apr 29, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Jaime and the HR
Despite giving up zero (0) HRs, his xFIP is still a sterling 3.69. This despite a lackluster 5.88 K/9 and 3.12 BB/9 (which was helped quite a bit last night). How? Ground balls! He’s currently camping on an MLB-leading 71.2 GB%, which means that even a league-averaged HR/FB ratio keeps him in thin air because he’s allowed so few fly balls. Only a dozen or so pitchers can stay over 50, BTW, and Jor-El lead the MLB last year with about 60.
He does have an equally unsustainable LOB% (80.8%) and low BABIP (.221), but I’m hoping that a high GB% can keep him trucking. IF he can stay well north of 50% GBs and IF he improves his control, we could have a younger, team-controlled, left-handed Joel Pineiro with a wider pitch array yet similar outcomes. Joel has kept it going so far this year, BTW: low Ks, miniscule BBs, high GB%.
This is the problem, though.
His GB% will very likely go down as the season goes along. It will likely be above 50 percent, but that is still a big drop. His HR rate is going to go up, along with his FB rate. Add to that a not-great K/BB ratio, and we know that he is going to get whacked around a little bit. Nonetheless, look at his numbers right now. 3.69 xFIP (or, if you like, 1.04 ERA). Even after he comes back down to earth, while on earth, he is still going to be a nice back-of-the-rotation starter.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
I think his K and BB numbers aren't close to levelling off yet, though
so I wouldn’t draw too many conclusions. With his stuff, there’s no reason he can’t K 7 per 9 in the majors, IMO.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
His MiLB K/9 was around 8, right?
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
8.3 actually
We really haven’t seen his hammer curve yet this season. I’ve seen a few good ones, but not the one I saw a couple years ago in a minor league start that he had.
I think he’ll end up with a K/9 in the mid 6’s by the end of the season, which should help to offset some of his drop in GB% I would think.
Eventually he’s going to give up some dingers though, and once the league gets some type of book on him hitters will adjust a bit to how he’s pitching. Still, if we can get a 4.00 FIP out of a guy nobody expected (including myself who thought K-Mac should have gotten the job) to help us, that’s a huge win as an organization. It would make losing Brad Penny for a draft pick or two feel less bad in the offseason.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
I believe that it was part of our agreement with Penny that we would, under no circumstances, offer him arbitration at the end of the year :-(
that's what i thought
but people keep talking about type A, etc. so could be wrong.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I understood that it was
only if he’s a type A.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I had forgotten about this
but after researching, it’s only if he’s Type A.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
no biggie, then
i mean, after last year, is it conceivable he could reach type A?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He needs to turn into
Timmeh for that to happen, methinks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
pretty much not
and if he does, we’ve got way more than $9m of value out of him, so I won’t really give a shit. If he’s a type A, he’ll probably be a Cy Young contender.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 30, 2010 6:20 AM EDT up reply actions
So far this year...
Garcia is retiring 80% of batters that he gets a 2-strike count on.
Excellent finishing.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Still seems like too many pitches
But I won’t complain too much if 102 over 7 becomes his normal.
I’m impressed.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
In fact...
This page is a fantastic look at why he has been so successful this year.
Over half of the innings he has pitched have been 1-2-3 innings. Ridic.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
61%(!)
of 2-0, 2-1, 3-0, 3-1 counts become outs! that’s awesome
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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by tgreenfield on Apr 29, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I think, after this opening month,
You don’t even have to be terribly optimistic to take the over on that one.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
let's just hope
that the over is not over about 150 innings by the end of the year. It seems to me, given how effective Jaime has been so far, there might be a big tendency to overuse him.
Not anymore, with TLR as the manager.
The shadow of Ankiel looms.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
I hope TLR isn't just running our starters into the ground
b/c of a shaky bullpen. I mean, Wainwright threw back-to-back CGs. Tony has this rule where he doesn’t want to wear out Franklin but man, please TLR don’t turn into Dusty and just pile on the pitches/innings on the starters’ arms.
Tony more likely feels guilty that he's cost Adam some wins (and maybe a Cy) because he wouldn't let Adam go 9.
that’s my guess, fwiw.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Wainwright is made of iron
I’m happy for him to pitch as much as he can, really, within reason. He’s accustomed to throwing 120 pitches a game and I’m happy for him to do it in a year when we’re competing.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Just sayin'
it’s freakin’ April. Not that the games don’t count, and not that I’m not stoked when Adam throws a CG. And Yadi’s point about TLR trying to leave him in to get him a W probably comes into play to some degree.
I guess it irks me because it seems to go against TLR’s logic of “keeping guys fresh” because “it’s a long season.” Oh well, not the first time and I’m sure it won’t be the last time that Tony does something to make me scratch my head.
Waino is different though.....
He hardly throws any warmups, so TLR and DD feel better aboot letting him go longer into pitch counts. 120 is the new 100.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
How the Cardinals hitter performed last night.
Great on-base percentage last night, great plate discipline, great clutch hitting, and great 2-strike hitting. Let’s duplicate that effort today.
Hitters. As there were multiple last night.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, cloning Albert pujols for every spot does sound good....
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
ya. I liked that a lot.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
The Cardinals are worse than the Cubs and Brewers:
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2010/4/28/1449866/btb-power-rankings-week-4#storyjump
Discuss.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
Brewers are getting a huge benefit from thrashing the Pirates
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
And the Cubs are getting a huge benefit from thrashing....the Brewers.
Let’s just think about that one for a moment.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
is this averaged by innings?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing the Brewers thing is because of the thumping they put on the Pirates
at the same time we were getting shut down by the Giants.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
ok
this is stat based right? makes my head hurt….which it already did..
At first i was thiking the rays should be clearly above the twins i looked and neither has really played or beaten a team thats really good now…The rays played the Yanks and lost that series, and bopth clubs beat BoSox who are scrapping…other than that they have beaten up on the Os, Royals Tigers etc…I did see the Twins had beaten the Angels though
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Apr 29, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like circular reasoning
Because the Brewers beat up on the Pirates, and the Cubs beat up on the Brewers and the Pirates.
Just wait, fuckers, we get to play the Pirates too!!!!
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
we can proceed to suck, of course....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The first two games...
of the Braves series have been coin tosses. We’ve been lucky so far this year, not even taking into account Franklin’s ability to earn saves while pitching like crap.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
this is all very true
we’ve played well AND YET our record is still pretty lucky. I’m not convinced we’re a .600 team YET.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This schedule is effed.
How do we play the Astros twice at home and then finally go to the Juice Box in July? We also don’t play Chicago at home until August 13.
Crack is whack.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
meth is death
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
VEB should not be in charge of anti-drug messages.
or babysitting.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we still do relationship advice?
We do diagnose car trouble and health issues, though.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I do love my stapler.... hmm....
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT NOT LIKE THAT.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Milton Waddams
And I said, I don’t care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I’m, I’m quitting, I’m going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they’ve moved my desk four times already this year, and I used to be over by the window, and I could see the squirrels, and they were married, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn’t bind up as much, and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and it’s not okay because if they take my stapler then I’ll set the building on fire…
I was reading about how countless species are being pushed toward extinction by man's destruction of forests. Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - Calvin, Scientific Progress Goes "Boink", Watterson
mmm LSA
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
This may not be what you want
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
We might win all those games 1-0
Their offense is awful, but they have soft throwing lefties on their staff which you apparently can’t hit if your wear Birds on a Bat.
I trust our pitching staff to keep us in every game against them this year.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
Boog
I noticed something last night…everyone is talking about his lunge swing…He got called a few times in different Abs on an outside questionable strike…Which frustrated him visibly
Then he started to swing at the outside stuff…He is visibly off balance you can see it…
They have 2 options..Let him hit his way out, or send him down to work on the swing…not sure which would be mentally worse for him…
As Yadi to second pointed out…It’s one month
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Dunno if boog has any options left
so I doubt sending him down is, well, an option…
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
ah
then maybe sitting him a game or two?
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Apr 29, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, that.
…except I don’t see him lunging at anything last night, when I check the f/xs.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
there was one or two
at bats…specificly one i remeber it wasnt horribly outsied but the called outside strike set it up
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
by punchinjudy on Apr 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I see... one in the second inning that might be it?
I think I know what you’re talking about, but multitasking has set in. I don’t think he swung at those, which might be why he was pissed. sorry… can anyone find this?
the bad ones recently… was a swing inside. that was bad-bad.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, that's FROM the South.
Oh crap!
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I'd say that should be good for us.
Waino will keep the ball in the park anyways.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
I was going to say
from my vantage point the wind is crazy out of the south (the tree outside my office window is leaning pretty good), which means to left field
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Dave Cameron Garcia post over at Fangraphs
nothing we didn’t know already but prob worth a look
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/his-name-is-jaime/
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
Hell yes...
there’s a new leader for ROY.
If the Braves had any sense, they would take advantage of the J-Hey Kid’s struggles, send him down for a couple weeks, and buy themselves an extra year of his services.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
Heyward for Garcia, straight up
get it done Mo.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 29, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
OT:
Pac 10 official on Scott Van Pelt says #Mizzou to Big 10 is “essentially a done deal.” We’ll keep updating this story… /via @590thefanKFNS.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
Damnit too quick with enter...
NCAA Conference shift chaos about to ensue I think… They should just realign into 4 mega conferences of 20 teams each and 2 division in each new conference. I think that would be great for football especially.
....my quick smells like french toast...
Twitter: @mstreeter06
by mstreeter06 on Apr 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmm... I'm hankering for some classics. maybe a silent film.
Silent Film: Starring Brendan Ryan and Joe Mather. Cardinals players Brendan Ryan and Joe Mather make a silent film documenting their journey to the soda fountain. – 4.28.10.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
When do I get to see this?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you already saw this.
it’s online.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I have not.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
opening cannes 2010?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a good effort. it's about 7 minutes, so you can watch it....
http://www.foxsportsmidwest.com/pages/video
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Site is SBN'd, apparently
I’ll try and remember to check tomorrow though. Thanks!
Also, is SBN’d an acceptable adjective now, like farked?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
SBN'd is only when sbn does it, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
ah...
does that mean I shouldn’t assume that the site is down because of the ridiculous amount of traffic driven there by SBN?
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
it's working fine for me
make sure you aren’t blocked, though…
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
hm...
can’t get there thru anonasurf, or the usual proxy. well, the page opens, but the video is disabled. interesting. usually, when a site is location-specific, there’s some kind of message to that effect. and it’ll work when i hide the incoming location. i’ll just have to take clemsongirl’s word for it.
In the poker game of life, women are the rake.
by el birdo in soko on Apr 29, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
there is something about it, rather cinéma vérité
but be warned… one guy, two cups.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 29, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Hilarious.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
one could actually do something with that... remix some soundtrack... get subtitles and a narrator with an accent
when Joe turns the camera to the art and Brendan disappears, that’s kind of cool.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That is utterly ridiculous.
I love it.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
absurdity!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
this is the funniest thing i've seen in a long time.
the part where they are looking into the mirror waiting for the elevator! laughin hysterically…had to shut my office door.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Boog
sitting indian style in the open elevator…
It was hilarious becuase I expected Bombs to round the corner and there would be boog walking on his hands.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
nooooo
that would spill the soda
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the sodas
would be perched atop his feet. flowing in a massive arch from one cup to another…
where is your creative imagination?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
but see
Brendan wouldn’t have had a full soda yet. he only had a sip.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
since when
has any sort of epic film ever had 100% continuity with its props
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
yes feather style
not dot style
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
St. Louisans
What is the forecast tomorrow? I have tickets and am driving down for the game.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Potentially strong storms tomorrow night.
Bring the rain gear.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 29, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh. What a bummer.
Weather.com has a 70% chance of strong rain from 7:00 through 10:00 p.m.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Do you mean on Sunday too?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh good.
I’m safe.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
inquiring minds want to know...
will Schu be wearing the sexy socks again today? he went 2 for 3 with two walks yesterday. i think that’s a good sign.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
I'm guessing
he didn’t change after the game.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
really?
why wouldn’t he?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Are you serious?
The high socks are hot.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Hotsocks Hotmaker
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
High socks make everyone hotter.
You just can’t tell on Penny.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 29, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so you don't like them?
i’d be shocked not to see schu in the socks today. he sucked without them – he needs the socks!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i like the socks fine
but i think mirrors should be involved before going out on the field in them
and sure as hell no socks for the entire team
boog is enough
and you're still anti-stache, right?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so what if Skip had a stache but no socks
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
...interesting
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ew.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I am not a fan of mustaches.
Unless the fact that they are missing is the obvious reason someone is not performing (cough Boog cough).
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
me neither
but i’d rather facial hair, than see some of those guys in high socks
we’re supposed to instill fear in the opponent not give them cramps from laughing
although… that can also bring a W..
now i’m confused – see what you did!
heresy...
the entire team should be in the socks!
Case in Point!
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
yeah, right
Chris F Carpenter in socks
Adam 10 feet tall Wainwrights in socks
Denny Reyes for fuck’s sake in high socks
oh the humanity
If I saw
Reyes in High socks I would run for fear….
If a man that big wore them, I would not be one to question his decision
Waino and Carp would just be lulling you into a false sense of security before they ate your child.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
...
http://myfavoritesquadron.mlblogs.com/t1_reyes.jpg
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
High Socks for everyone!!!!!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Apr 29, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know, I've just started wondering:
How likely do you think it is that Cards players might actually read VEB, or other Cards blogs, from time to time? Not that they actually comment or anything, just read posts? The video up above just made me think: I don’t know that anyone does, but if they do, I’d be willing to bet that it’d be Boog and Joey Bombs.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
my bet is family members.
the other thing is, look at the time stamp on that video. they’re up later than we are. hopefully they’re doing more productive things like looking for their neon foam ball.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if those two goofballs read here
you better believe that they contribute to some of the stupidity that goes on
all in all, i am guessing if at all, then infrequently – no time and do you really want to play baseball all day and then read about it?
but they should be aware of VEB
I'm sure some have seen an entertaining post about themselves
But I severely doubt someone who does baseball from 2-10 every day for 9 months really wants to deal with more baseball stuff at home.
Not afraid to nitpick
Hmm..
The people at my job that are the very best all live, eat, sleep, and breathe finance. And its not like they are all in the top ~500 of their profession. I imagine a lot of MLBers are absolutely maniacal about baseball and never turn off. In fact, that dedication might be necessary to ascend to the ML ranks.
they have a lot of down time
i’d think they gobble it up too.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you might be correct about your overall point
but I think finance/baseball is an inappropriate simile.
Chris Carpenter doesn't give a fuck about your fantasy team.
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 30, 2010 6:22 AM EDT up reply actions
for anyone who's searching, here's Boog and Bombs Part 1
Part 2 aired last night, and given the Rome thing, I dunno if they can put it on.
http://www.foxsportsmidwest.com/pages/video?PID=craTsnEHu9kWdIs9EYmvEvc__Bq6GXDf
let me know if it works, in case compiling would be a lost cause.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
SMOLTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
nooooooooooooooooooooooo. don't say that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm weeping, shhh.
it’s mostly eh, this is a good gig, probably no more pitching.
he loves us, though. he loves the man stew.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He's done.
D-U-N. Done.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
unless he does the one-day signing with the braves
i sort of expect that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Braves lineup
Cabrera
Escobar
Prado
McCann
Hinske
Infante
SecondComing
McLouth
Jurrjens
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
someone should really correct that photo caption...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
was that Joe Mather spectacularly losing rock-paper-scissors?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chip Caray...
Three things:
1) Why are you made up like an Italian male model?
2) Adam Wainwright is not a former Brave.
3) Busch Memorial Stadium was demolished 4 years ago.
Carry on.
game thread?
even the braves have one today…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Albert benched
will he pitch later?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
left handed
of course.
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
Albert benched
will he pitch later?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the heck, sbn.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so how many more before Joe Mather pulls an Oquendo?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so how many more before Joe Mather pulls an Oquendo?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
isn't that ironic
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
more what?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
positions
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i don't get it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Here...
Oquendo – 1988
Played every position during the season.
Mather now needs to play second, shortstop and catcher to do the same.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i know that
but the question was confusing.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
sbn is killin me
also, effin’ Yunel.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
please no...
thought it does seem that sort of day
Chitown?
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
so when do we start freaking out
that bombs is playing 1b
does that mean albert won’t sign with us… whaaaat?
quick, call strauss, we might be onto something
well for one thing, Albert Pujols is now trapped on the bench with Brendan Ryan.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
got socks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hallelujah!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
The intertubes is being wonky
I couldn’t get on FR.net then I couldn’t get on riverbandits website. Then, I could get on hardly any sites on Crackberry.
WTF!
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 29, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually not that bad
better than the Red ones.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 29, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
The jersey itself isn't THAT bad...
Although I think the blue numbers on a blue jersey, and the complete absence of red is pretty shitty.
What’s bad is that they never wear their road greys anymore a la the Astros.
I cant stand that.
mmmm Colby
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
David Freese, the slappingest hitting 3B
you’ll ever see.
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 29, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions
slappy HR!
"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.
jacks teh three run HR
While Spinning.
How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?
you were saying?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
FREESE HOMER!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
OLLIE OLLIE OXEN FREESE
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
HOME RUN!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Freeeeese!
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
anyone click that create a caption link on the right?
knew bobby was acknowledged, but didn’t realize he was presented that by tony and red.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
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