The Ex-Cardinals
by DanUpBaby on Apr 23, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintI'm not totally sure, but I think my first ex-Cardinal experience was with Brian Jordan, every other nine year-old's favorite player in 1996. He played football! He runs hard! Your baseball-fan uncle likes that he plays the game the right way! He played in St. Louis forever after that, against hated Atlanta and indifferent Los Angeles and then end-of-the-line hated Atlanta, and he got standing ovations forever more. That is tenet one of the St. Louis Cardinals Alumni Association—if at least one to two thousand people in the stadium remember you, and they will, you will always get a standing ovation in your first at-bat of a given series.
Of course, to get there, you have to make a team. It's bad news for Braden Looper and Chris Duncan, two useful role players at the end of the MV3 era who have found themselves on the outs as teams revalue aging, once-useful role players. Braden Looper isn't anywhere, which is strange; he got hammered last year as an innings sponge, leading the league in home runs allowed, earned runs and starts, but still went 14-7, and in another year that would have been enough. As a starter he's a—I almost said non-starter without thinking about it. As a starter he doesn't make sense anymore, unless he's willing to sit in the PCL for a while waiting for his chance. But it's weird to see how completely Dave Duncan's transformation has stuck: his struggle finding a job in the offseason was almost entirely related as Braden Looper The Starter not finding work.
As a reliever, he's a little more competitive; he remains a big guy with a ROOGY motion, and as long as you can be used in some interesting way at the back of the bullpen a manager will take a look at you. But only recently has he ended up in bullpen talks—fittingly, about joining Carlos Zambrano in the Cubs pen.
As for Chris Duncan, he's on a team, technically, but things do not look good for our favorite corkscrew-swinging slugger. On Washington's AAA Syracuse club he's got a .430 OPS, and it's a hard .430—five singles, four walks, 29 at-bats. He's better than that, but how much better? I'd love to see him get another shot, but it looks like his real-life-scary neck problems have intruded once more into his baseball career. His 2006 line saved those Cardinals when they couldn't expect it at all; .293/.363/.589 from a guy with an .827 OPS in Memphis the year before? He could only technically play left field, but in 2006 and 2007 he was vitally important to a team whose third-best hitter was Juan Encarnacion.
But that obligatory Standing O is good news for Jim Edmonds and Rick Ankiel, the best-loved active ex-Cardinals.
Let's start with Jim Edmonds: He's having an awesome year. After starting the season .289/.400/.421 in center and right field—a kind of third-and-a-half outfielder in the Colby Rasmus 2009 sense—he dropped some isolated power into his line by going 4-6 with two doubles and a home run, and after today it sits at .341/.431/.568, after rounding an even 1.000.
As a Jim Edmonds Hall of Fame partisan from way back I want to see him hit 17 more home runs, to give him an even 400, but as a baseball fan I just want to see him do some more incredible things with the bat and glove. He is, along with Ichiro, the most stylish baseball player I've ever watched. Certainly not actual style; the man spent most of his prime with frosted tips and half-shirts. But the wild home run swing—the stationary front leg, the long uppercut, the prototypical homer-watch stance he ends up in—and the thrilling combination of great defensive instinct and terrible footspeed make everything he does on a baseball field exciting to watch. When he's doing something he seems to be filmed in more cinematic camera angles than anybody else.
And I was happy to see that in today's 20-0 drubbing the same skills remain evident. Watch this swing. Enjoy it.
Let's move to Rick Ankiel: He's having a less awesome year. After a hot start Ankiel, starting center fielder for the Royals, he's hitting .222/.283/.444, with three home runs but 19 strikeouts. His defense, much maligned in 2009, remains subpar. I'll always like to watch Rick Ankiel, and I think he was a bargain for the Royals this year—a guy who might be able to play center field and had a 119 OPS+ in 167 games leading up to his mediocre 2009 would have gotten more sympathetic attention from us if he weren't Rick Ankiel.
But the further he gets from one of those months where every swing is a home run, and every throw a bullseye to the catcher, the more worrying his career as an outfielder gets. It makes me wish he was still a Cardinal, if only for that one 20 inning game in which the thought crosses his mind that if Felipe Lopez can do it...
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Birdland pertinent link
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Scott Spiezio
not that SBN is cooperating….
2009-2010
started out: OC Flyers
a stint in: Gigantes del Cibao
and now: Newark Bears
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and if you look really hard
there’s Albert Pujols commenting on Jim Edmonds.
Albert! Stop HELPING PEOPLE. not like that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ahhh, Speez-ee-o.
Sad that he’s not been able to catch on with a MLB team, although perhaps it’s also in his best interests to be out of the spotlight.
Any news of what Hector Luna’s up to this year? He’s doing a bit of a Brian barden – hitting well enough in AAA to look like he should be a bench player somewhere, but never really getting a chance. He’s a guy I’ve always had some time for, seems strange he doesn’t latch on somewhere as the 25th guy on someone’s roster.
Likewise, poor old J-Rod, not sure where he is now, after playing for four AAA teams in the last few years.
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 23, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I do know where J-Rod is
if you would wait a moment. have a spot of tea.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and perhaps a scone?
delightful!
Actually, weirdly enough, I am just on my way to make a mug of tea. And I am a coffee drinker 99% of the time (I think this’ll be about my fourth cup of tea in 2010…)
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 23, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
that is bizarre
because I too am usually a coffee drinker, and I am halfway through a hot cup of tea.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
So Taguchi
It took Taguchi’s agent to reach the surprised player on his cell phone Tuesday night because Taguchi kept ignoring the calls when a Chicago area code appeared on his caller ID. ‘’I said, ’Chicago? I don’t have any friends in Chicago.‘’’
- Chicago Sun-Times, 2009
“He does what he’s asked, with effort, and I think that’s a good example for the guys to look up to,” LaRocca said of Taguchi.sadly this week he pulled a hammy, and he’ll be out a month.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think more of that home run than of Yadi's
I suppose it’s because I felt at that moment that the team was going to win the whole thing.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
the light rain coming down...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 23, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
If we don't win that game, we lose the series
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 23, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I was in college
in Chicago, no less, and I remember watching that game in this dive of a bar that my friends and I frequented, and just going ballistic when So went yard.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
international notebook pertinent link
http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/961899.html
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
John Rodriguez
Rojos del Aguila del Veracruz
→ latest-ish news
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 23, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
*** actually, BEST LINK ***
→ → → Ex-Cardinals Around the Major Leagues (April 7, 2010)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Hector Luna
New Orleans Zephyrs
→ the ghost of Hector Luna
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Edmonds was a favorite of mine too
but those slash lines for he and Ankiel just make me appreciate the dawning of the Colby Rasmus era all the more.
(Random aside: As much as I appreciate the awesomeness of Albert Pujols, I’ve always liked Rolen and Edmonds better. I don’t understand that either.)
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I still wear my Edmonds jersey with pride.
He was my favorite player short of McGee and The Wizard and it’s great to see him swing again, even if for the dreaded Brewers.
Hey Ump!
Same for me with Rolen
despite how his tenure with the Cardinals ended. There is a part of my brain that refuses to think of Scotty as anything other than the guy from the 2004, where every hit was a 2-run double and nothing got down the line into the left field corner. I also loved how he was always rounding second with his head down when the cameras cut back to him after tracing the flight of a home run ball.
I am still a Rolen fan
I wear my Rolen Cards shirt quite often. He was my favorite player.
St. Louis Cardinals and Indy Colts fan. Avid fan of the Springfield Cardinals, the Cards' AA team!
Edmonds has always been my second favourite Card, behind Chuckie Fick*
although it’s a little sad to see him finishing his career (TWICE, now) with divisional rivals. Although it didn’t really make objective sense, I’d have loved us to pick him up as a bench bat from the left-side this year. Either that, or see him disappear back to the AL (Angels?) – seeing him in a Brewer or Cub uni just seems wrong.
- may not reflect reality.
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 23, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I would've loved to see him back, too...
…though I really think that what the Cards did for Jimmy was even better for him, as a player, than if they would’ve signed him. Saying, “Look, we love you, and we’d love to have you, but with the guys that we have now, we just can’t give you the playing time you’re looking for,” to me, shows a lot more respect for Edmonds as a player than would signing him and relegating him to 4th or 5th outfielder.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
I just never could get behind.....
Rolen. Not that I disliked him or anything. Loved the defense, and he was a good bat for us when healthy. Maybe it’s the personality, or lack there of? Jimmy was a likeable guy, as is Albert, obviously.
Rolen's personality is what I liked best about him!
Maybe that’s because us sarcastic pricks have to stick together.
by Mister Eff on Apr 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's what was surprising about Rolen getting booted out of Philly
he has that blue collar mentality which one would think would fit in Philly.
Edmonds, on the other hand, was all LA glam. On his back, legs up in the air. In metal speak, Rolen would be Metallica while Edmonds would be Van Halen with David Lee. I love them both. If not for f*ing Hee Sop Choi, Rolen might still have remained a redbird.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Philly hates everyone
And once again I get to continue my personal crusade to clear Hee Sop Choi’s name, the fault lays with Scott fucking Erickson’s inability to throw a ball 20 feet.
Not afraid to nitpick
I don't know, man
He was standing on top of the whole bag. I think he could’ve just touched the bag and at least minimized the contact. It’s been a while since I’ve seen the clip, but I saw it many times. And every time I saw it, I cussed out loud at f*ing Hee Sop Choi.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
choi will get his
the plan is in place
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think Rolen left both St Louis and Philly
because of his personality. He is, honestly, an effing prick and didn’t want to take any more of Bowa’s or LaRussa’s shit. It’s pretty easy to see that a hard headed player is eventually going to but heads with a hard headed manager and it won’t end well.
Dusty is probably the perfect manager for him.
Dusty is probably the perfect manager for him.
A dumb pussy?
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 23, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
TWSS
/obligatory
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
That doesn't make sense.
People, we can have dirty jokes without TWSS being involved.
You can read it in any tone you like.
that's what spants said!!!11!!!1
lolololol
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 23, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know...
…it was the first thing that came to mind, and…aw, heck, it’s Friday. I swear I’ll try harder next time, honest.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
That's what-
Oh, never mind.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It really is a vicious cycle, isn't it?
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
TWHSOAM?
/pms
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 23, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Also,
think about what may have been had Alex Cintron been looking at where the fuck he was running.
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 23, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he was, the motherf'er
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I posted this some time ago, but nothing surprises about fan reaction in that city. I once watched agape as fams booed nuns who danced atop the dugout during 7th- inning stretch!
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I never liked Rolen
because Ayn Rand makes me want to murder anyone and everyone I can get my hands on. Loved him as a player, though, and still thought the way he left was the shittiest incident in La Russa’s tenure here.
Edmonds was my favourite Card of the 2000 era teams.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 23, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Any Rand sucks
was Scott a big Ayn Rand guy?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, he was.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 23, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit.
How did I never know this?
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
so that's why I liked him...
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
painting with a pretty wide brush there, chitown
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
haha
i was trying to think of another rand to mention.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
paul rand!
As a lifelong fan of the NeXT logo I’m pretty pissed about this whole line of discussion.
i just assumed we weren't allowed to discuss paul rand here
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Rolen was a big Rand fan, talked about
how here philosophies ‘changed his life’.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 23, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
“philosophies”
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Nietzche was much more a philosopher than her
but some would argue neither were philosophers by the traditional sense.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
she’s fine as a writer, but I don’t think she’s a philosopher by any means
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
you should check the definition of philosopher
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Philosophy is the study of general and fundamental problems concerning matters such as existence, knowledge, values, reason, mind, and language.12 It is distinguished from other ways of addressing fundamental questions (such as mysticism, myth, or the arts) by its critical, generally systematic approach and its reliance on rational argument.3 The word “Philosophy” comes from the Greek φιλοσοφία [philosophia], which literally means “love of wisdom”.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
A philosopher is also...
a person who establishes the central ideas of some movement, cult, etc., or even a person who lives and thinks according to a particular philosophy.
In any event, objectivism is certainly a philosophy, whatever you think of its merits.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose so
but it says something that she was never published imo. you can pretty easily debunk her arguments. but I am not going to talk any more of this!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
*never published by any philosophy journals
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither was Plato
Your statement is also ironic since Rand published her own philosophy journal called the Objectivist. She also authored quite a few purely philosophical works (straight non-fiction), apart from stories like or Atlas Shrugged or The Fountainhead
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that's a pretty fallacious argument
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Was Plato published in philosophy journals? Maybe the Republic was part of a monthly series that I missed...
My point was only that Rand created objectivism, which objectively (no pun intended) IS a philosophy, thus making her a philosopher.
And I’ve never heard someone argue that being a philosopher required being published in “philosophy journals.” I’ll have to go back and see whether Kant and Schopenhaur made the cut.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
you talked!
but i have no idea what you are talking about.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
sorry, didn't mean to go with absolutes
I would argue that she is more of a novelist than a philosopher. so maybe 40% amateur philosopher and 60% storyteller. something along those lines
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
60% *amateur* storyteller
ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss
by alberich on Apr 23, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ayn rand could have you killed
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
What?
If you want to read decent libertarian fiction, read Heinlein. Rand was a far better philosopher than she was an author.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
which speaks well to her philosopher side
which is horrible and justifies terrible things
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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i believe you are mistakenly
referring to joe morgan as “her”
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, I left that to be inferred.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
He scratched the $ sign with his bat as he left St. Louis. . .
He scratched it many, many times.. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
you personally didn't like somebody because of something that they believed in?
really?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he didn't personally know Rolen.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
that was worded wrong
nevermind
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Rand is just a bad person.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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where did you hear that?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ok, i read it
not really anything i didn’t already know. and still didn’t answer my question, unless the argument is that a woman scorned is just a bad person.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It depends on whether or not you think selfish people are "bad"
All humans seek personal happiness and exist for their own sake, and should not sacrifice themselves to or be sacrificed by others.
it's not selfishness
its just rational self interest, duh (it strikes me as odd that an adult would accept for a guiding philosophy what they would never even allow their children to conduct their playground behavior by – that sentence came out weird, huh?)
I'm not sure I understand
Rand wasn’t a woman scorned. Just the opposite.
The reason I posted that is her philosophy was supposed to be all about reason and self-reliance, but in real life, she ended up surrounded by gullible sycophants, whom she manipulated. She may have sincerely believed the things she said and wrote, but the philosophy itself was more or less pure snake oil.
she was human
either i am misunderstanding the meaning of “bad person” or there is something she did that is so horrible nobody wants to mention it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
it's something so horrible
that it’s one of two things not allowed to be mentioned on VEB
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I will not deny that she was human ;)
But that’s not the first adjective that leapt to my mind when I read the three paragraphs starting with “In both Barbara’s and Nathaniel Branden’s assessment, then, we see all the characteristics of a cult. But what about deceit and sexual exploitation?” I don’t know how you can be aware of that and still think that she was this awesome paragon of virtue.
By itself, none of her behavior really refutes any of her stated philosophy….but it does reinforce the idea that the whole movement was just a cult of personality.
i don't think about ayn rand too much, tbh
i was just very curious about this “bad person” business – perhaps he meant flawed rather than bad (in other words, human)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
reading sucks
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
by STLRegalia on Apr 23, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what i meant by bad
is that her beliefs and the subsequent bastardization and things that have come out of her philosophy have led to bad things
to me, that makes them a bad person
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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i wasn't aware she authored the koran
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
or the bib...
whoa there asshole. this thread is getting out of line
/i’m the asshole, btb
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
hmmm...
gonna have to say i disagree with you.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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my guess is it's an "objectivism is a religion of peace" joke
I don’t think cardball has gone Over The Line here, but to reiterate where the line is:
I am (perhaps against my better judgment) letting the Rand conversation go because it is politics! and religion!, not politics! and religion! and authors! and philosophy! But should it move toward either of our officially touchy subjects, let it drop. Thanks.
yeah, sorry, just kidding around
i really don’t have a strong opinion of rand or her philosophy one way or the other. i think this is the only place i ever see her discussed.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
of course
this is just good evidence that veb is pretty much awesome. we went from worshipping Half Shirt and Scott Rolen to finding out he believed in rand, to disappointment about said fact, a strong debate about philosophy and literature which everyone was mostly respectful, and then once getting near a line that we have established as a community decided to step back.
luv ya all!11
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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I really don't care who he likes
the guy is a bad ass mf’er
and I’ve never cared enough to give a crap about Rand’s views.
Now if people start badmouthing Voltaire…well, then we might have fingercuffs.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
voltaire is bomb.
you bet I’m candide about that
/ducks
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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tend your own garden, pal
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
=rand(comment)
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i took it as
wordplay: korand
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The Koran comment
seemed quite random
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
This is funny to me because it reminds me of something I heard on the radio
I think it was the Kevin Slaten show. I only listened to him because I was really tired of the music stations in town and he occasionally had an interesting guest. He was off on some rant about how he doesn’t believe any of the hype about Pujols and Pujols is obviously not a team guy and obviously roids it up and yadda yadda yadda.
Anyway, he kept making these attacks based on his opinions of Pujols as a person, and admitted he was totally awesome at baseball. The way he chose to say this was “but I just don’t like him as a player.” I wanted to punch him in the nuts for being so stupid. “Kevin, you ignorant slut! You do like him as a player, you do not like him as a person! God you’re dumb!”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I'm the same way with Jimmie ballgame...
he was always my fave Cardinal when he was here, and it killed me that he didn’t play last year…may have ruined his HOF chances. As much as the STL fanbase fawned over him, I always felt he was under appreciated as a player. He averaged just over a 1.000 OPS from 2000-2004 (5 years!); all while being arguably the best center fielder in baseball. I think you could argue that he was more valuable than Pujols during that stretch, though Pujols is certainly a solid defensive player as well.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Rolen and Edmonds are white?
/robot baiting
//mind out of the gutter
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 23, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
That has nothing to do with it
I mean, Chuckie Fick is white, so….
/more robot baiting
//Azru not rising to it… maybe
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 23, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
As is Don Deckinger . . . . (SP??) You know who I mean. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Scott Rolen
will most likely always be my favorite cardinal…I explained it to my little brother (10) the other day as, “You know the way you know that albert will catch a ball that’s thrown to him…if the ball was hit NEAR rolen, not only will he catch it, but he is guaranteed to throw out the runner”
check out VEB on facebook...just search groups for Viva El Birdos
Rolen's defense is ruined for me by the early memories of Ozzie
Rolen is the best 3B I’ve ever seen, but he still can’t begin to touch the wonder that was the Wizard so I’ll never really appreciate it.
Not afraid to nitpick
See, I like Rolen as a defender almost as much as Ozzie
Ozzie had crazy range, but I’ve never seen an arm like Rolen’s.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
i loved jimmy and rolen
more than albert at the time… probably in part because we hadn’t yet realized the pure ridiculousness of AP. and in part because pujols’ personality has come out a lot more since those guys left and he became the defacto leader of the team, veteran presence, etc.
i love jimmy because of his style and i love scotty because of his grit. rolen is one of the only guys who is gritty and actually really naturally talented. in other words, he doesn’t get by on his grit, it’s just in the background, showing up at important times. i remember watching a game, probably in ‘04, when rolen got hit IN THE HEAD with a ball so hard it literally knocked him to the ground. whether or not he gave a fuck, we will never know. he didn’t say a word. he stood up, put his head down, and jogged down to first. and i thought to myself, that is one tough dude. i’ve had a lot of respect for him ever since, and the tony feud just made me very, very sad.
while its tough to see rolen in a reds uni, i think its a good fit for him. and i’m happy that the STL fans will have a chance soon to thank him for his service.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
My brother used to say that "Scott Rolen is ALL MAN."
I guess he meant that everything Rolen did was done in a manly, burly way.
You can read it in any tone you like.
may 31st is a monday and can get cheap tickets
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
But it's Memorial Day
Won’t tickets be hard to come by?
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
well I am looking at
Legends Club tickets for $50 each. All those codes I just posted below will work on Memorial day. But you just have to act quick before they sell out
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
taking pujols out of the equation
i consider rolen the best player the cards have had since gibby. while edmonds will be debated as a HOF’er, had he not gotten hurt the only debate on scotty would be first-ballot or not.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Question on Ozzie
Being the only first round HOF since Gibby (at least that I can think of,) what is this VEB’s assessment of Ozzie given that most of his value was in defense which is difficult to analyze using current advanced metrics? The reason that I ask is that Rolen and Edmonds where both excellent two way players in their prime and advanced metrics view them favorably because in addition to outstanding defense they had excellent value with the bat. Ozzie does not. However, Ozzie is a first ballot HOF where the other two will most likely not be.
Rally has a historical WAR database, which includes defensive data
http://www.baseballprojection.com/war/top300.htm
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I thoroughly enjoy the two names directly above Ozzie (who's at #40)
As re: this entire convo.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Look at #36
I haven’t heard the name Bobby Grich since my mom moved back to St. Louis from Baltimore in the late 80’s. Heck, couldn’t even remember what position he played. And the fact that he led the AL in dingers in ’81 with 22….whoa!
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 23, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, I hadn't even noticed that
Yeah…seriously, after looking at that top 40, I’m transported back to Sesame Street.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
thanks for this link
it gives something quantifiable at least. now whether you give 100% faith to the stat is another story.
This is one of those debates
where I really think that sabremetrics kind of takes a bit of a back seat, and probably rightfully so. Ozzie was an 11-time GG winner and a 12-time AS, and I don’t know that anyone would argue that either of those were undeserved sets of accolades. Ozzie was literally a revolutionary defensive SS, much in the same way that Brooks Robinson was at 3B, which counts for a lot, even if it is unquantifiable.
The biggest factor, however, is that Ozzie was probably one of the top 25 offensive SSs to play the game, in addition to being one of the top 2 or 3 defensive ones. The offensive bar is much higher at 3B.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 23, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It IS quantifiable, though. It's one of those times where the stats back up what the eye sees
Check out the link I posted above
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
ozzie was one of the top 2 or 3 defensive shortstops?
who else you thinking of?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Boog, of course.
j/k, no one else. . .just leaving room for error in a quick post.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 23, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
albert has always been my third or fifth favorite cardinal for whatever reason
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolen was awesome because he had an aura of indefatigable manliness.
He took inside pitches an inch from his chin without even unfocusing his angry stare from the pitcher. His .50 throwing arm also made the throws of most our shortstops and 3B men since him look like crap. I root for him to keep playing for a few good years to push him over the edge into the HOF. I also thought it was weird when I heard how many of his family members attend games and how close he is to them. For some reason I had assumed they died in a fire started by ninjas or something.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Apr 23, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
my favorite Rolen story:
we saw him giddily running around on the field after the WS win with three bottles of Bud Light stuffed into the back pocket of his uniform pants.
.50 cal arm, that’s about right.
The ninjas were probably out for revenge
After Scott killed their dragon-god by throwing one of its own fireballs back into its eye and exploding its brain.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Apr 23, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Indeed.
Little did they know, the revenge would belong entirely to Scott Rolen, who immolated their ancient temple and their entire clan with a meteor.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
the articulate phrase of the day, Hazel!! "indefeatgable manliness" . . My compliments
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Living in NY I'm stuck constantly with an ex-Card MVP who would NEVER be cheered in St. Louis again
Yes the infamous Keith Hernandez. I still get nightmares thinking of Neil Allen and Rick Ownby. Watching him play defense ( no one played the bunt better ), his clutch hitting , and leadership made me sick. We got screwed doing the right thing by that guy, and he apologizes to the fans of NY? For what doing the things he should have done for the Cards.
I don't understand why he
wouldn’t be cheered in STL. I’m definitely sad that his drug problem led to the end of his Cardinal days, and into the arms of the Mets, but I’d still cheer for him. I think STL fans would respond to him, at worst, with indifference.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 23, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't know if I'll
ever get over that, even though at the time Carlton was traded I was 10 years old and didn’t follow baseball. What always comes to mind for me, however, were the ’73 and ’74 teams — the first Cardinal teams I followed closely — that each finished, I think, 1.5 games behind the Pirates. Then I think about the fact that we had earlier traded away Steve Carlton AND Mike Cuellar. Those guys in our rotation would have made our boys the no-doubt division winners those years. A little tear still comes to my eye, because the 1970s were very, very hard to take.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 23, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never seen
anyone play the bunt better than Hernandez. At times, it seemed almost impossible for other teams to successfully bunt a guy from first to second. You always knew the bunt had to be absolutely perfect or Keith would get a forceout at second.
one of the values of a lefty first baseman
and the cards haven’t had one since hernandez (not that i am presently complaining)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think the whole lefty 1B angle is overplayed, frankly.
RH 1Bs have an advantage in cutting off balls down the line.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 23, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm not saying it's a big deal
but there are more advantages than disadvantages to being a lefty first baseman
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
That's probably true. . .
but I think they are small, and that they area countered by disadvantages, which seldom seem to be admitted.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 23, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
well, because of the construct of the diamond
and the nature of the game, we don’t have lefties at the other infield positions – this is because of the throws/pivots that have to be made, and in the same vein a lefty first baseman would be the ideal.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He came back during the Busch teardown
and he was cheered, if I remember correctly.
Now Garry Templeton…
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
this comment reeks of presentism
Certainly not actual style; the man spent most of his prime with frosted tips and half-shirts.
Add popped collars and a spray-on orange tan
and you have a cast member for “Jersey Shore.” Just sayin’.
by Michael_68_1999 on Apr 23, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
that style’s been out for quite some time
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
uh
in the 80s they were
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
the 80s were ’tarded
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
you shut your mouth
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
the 80s
heh
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Lots of folks around here go shirtless in the summer
It gets hot! Plus they’re rednecks.
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 23, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
they wouldn't be rednecks then
they would be red torsos
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Sad that a google image search of "half-shirt"
…yields an image of Jimmy as the number 1 photo.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
I think you're confusing the word sad
and the word awesome.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 23, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I did not know this ... mlbtr
Starting Pitcher: Adam Wainwright. Drafted by Braves in ‘00, pick from D’Backs for loss of Russ Springer.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so in a round-about way
russ springer just keeps on giving?
by kalmavet on Apr 23, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it seems so!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 23, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm there for you, cow!
I mean, Albert has become, likely, my favorite Card of all time (though my boyhood memories of the Wizard still rank up there real close), but I always have a soft spot in my heart for the overachievers and role players. Bo Hart, Joe McEwing, Rex Hudler, and, yes, the Secret Weapon himself…these are guys I’ve always loved.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Pujols isn't necessarily my favorite Card
I love watching him hit and all that, but he doesn’t do anything flashy or with personality. He drills the baseball and hits home runs just like anyone else, he just does it a lot more than anyone else. Don’t get me wrong, that’s badass and he’s in the “I’m looking forward to the nostalgic hyperbole of his greatness with my kids” territory, but Maching couldn’t possibly be a better nickname. I absolutely love the Carpenter “I DON’T GIVE A FUCK” moments or Edmonds’ flare from my favorites.
Not afraid to nitpick
I can respect that.
To me, the numbers ARE the flash, if that makes sense. When you put up those kinds of ridiculous numbers, they become flashy in and of themselves. And, in a secondary sense, I think that’s probably how Albert needs to go about his business when he’s on the field. He’s clearly got a goofy side to him (witness the cameras catching him smacking Danny Haren on the butt after the benches cleared following the Carp incident), and he’s the first one to be celebrating when other guys get big hits. I think it’s maybe just his nature to do his thing without a whole lot of celebration, and then save the celebrating for when the rest of the team gets theirs.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
remember the Onion article about Pujols talking to opponents at first?
the guy has all kinds of personality. There’s the story about AP throwing JRod’s bat down the clubhouse stairs before Eckstein hit a walkoff.
He may or may not in person be a fun guy
But just on the field he doesn’t stand out personality wise in any way, he doesn’t have ANY quirks or memorable reactions. The only thing I can think of that was unique to him was the Pittsburgh HR off of Oliver Perez where he tossed the bat 20 feet in the air…..and he even did that kind of emotionless. Hell even Rolen’s hardass ‘round the bases as fast as possible’ showed more personality.
The perfect example is Edmonds NLCS extra innings walkoff vs. Pujols Lidge bomb. I’ll never forget Edmonds reaction to that—-awesome. Pujols just rounded the bases. He’s likely the best player I’ll ever see, but he’s not the coolest. I’d obviously rather have Pujols on the team than Edmonds for the sake of the team, but he’s just not an interesting personality.
Not afraid to nitpick
I still say that 04 NLCS was the best series no one outside of St. Louis and Houston will ever know about
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
I just read Jason Stark's article about Stan Musial in his Overrated/underrated book
and so far the similarities between stan and albert are crazy. the reason stark gives for why stan is so underappreciated is because he didnt have a signature moment (.400+ average, 56 game streak, etc..). albert hasn’t done anything monumental like that but the difference is that he is in a day and age where the media gives him more attention.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Have you seen the ad that ESPN is running?
It might be an MLB ad, but basically compares Pujols to Ted Williams and other greats and says that if you are not watching Pujols, you are missing history. I think he is pretty well appreciated for what he is doing.
It's an MLB ad
Been running since last year on MLBN.
Really neat.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I saw that
“Your grandfather never misses an opportunity to tell you that he saw ”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Gaedel" target="new">Eddie Gaedel take a walk. Your father tells you all the time that he remembers Bucky Dent. Now it’s your turn to tell your kids about seeing tiny Dustin Pedroia try to do everything."
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 23, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He smacks lots of opponents' butts when they are on first base. It's usual with a smile.
One of my favorite memories of Albert playing around with someone was after Ronnie Belliard had left. Ronnie was standing on first and Albert did this fake punch right at his head, stopping a couple inches short. Bellie didn’t even flinch, he just stood there as if he didn’t even notice. Albert was the first to laugh.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I enjoy Albert's defense tons better than his offense.
watching him tend his garden at first base is my favorite thing. and of course, the Yadi to Albert tandem is just a thing of beauty.
Albert in the box gives us fits if he’s not the same. Albert manning first base … he just seems to have more fun, get dirtier, talk more, smile more. it’s different every day.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 23, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on Albert's D
As I mentioned yesterday, he reminds me of the Big Cat. I forgot that the Big Cat was a Cardinal, albeit briefly.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
It was so weird
that Galarraga’s time here went so poorly. I remember Shannon talking about it and basically saying that no one had any idea why. It had the air of being a complete mystery, only solved by the thin air of Denver and Dante Bichette’s 5 o’clock shadow.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Don Baylor
messed with his swing as Cards’ hitting coach in ’92, closing it up. Plus Galarraga got plunked in the second game of the season and missed three months. He improved down the stretch as the stance re-opened, and then when he went to Mile High he opened it back up all the way and AWAY WE GO!
by PeterStork670 on Apr 23, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
1B was a weird position for the Cardinals post Jack Clark.
Bob Horner, Pedro Guerrero, Andres, Gregg Jeffries, Mabry (yes, we won a division with John Mabry as the starting 1B), Dmitiri Young, some dude named MacGuire.
ew
MacGuire?
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
it may be a little more esoteric
but this would be better without the ms paint text
or any text
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 23, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Galarraga hurt his wrist or arm pretty badly in the first week
of the season and it lingered all year.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 23, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Growing up
I never thought I would ever love a Cardinal like I did Tommy Herr. I still don’t think I’ll ever love a Cardinal like I do Scott Rolen, but damn if Chris Carpenter doesn’t make me wonder if that will change.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
do you think that we are getting a version of Gibby in our time?
I read somewhere that Gibby says that Carp is a lot like him
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
well yeah
in another town there might be a different reaction.
I’m wondering if my memory’s playing tricks on me, though … wasn’t there a time when we didn’t know about his luggage?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what do you mean?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
his behavior last year, and to a greater extent this year
has been a revelation to me. Maybe its just that I didn’t watch so much baseball before, or that he was oft injured, but he always stuck me as a pretty introverted, mild mannered dude. HFS was I way off.
yeah
he seemed much more reserved before the 07-08 lacuna. I don’t recall ever having seen the Luggage Man side of his personality before that.
I guess missing two entire years worth of games due to a variety of medical issues could change a man’s temperament….
He was definitely intense back in the day
I think it was in Milwaukee when he released the loudest F-bomb ever recorded on a sports broadcast……and he screamed it practically before the hanging curve even reached the plate (the hitter didn’t swing).
He’s definitely become more demonstrative though.
Not afraid to nitpick
you would think they would put a 3 second delay in when he pitches
A Carp delay
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
The f bomb
Probably scared the hitter out of swinging
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 23, 2010 2:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Aw
I thought the comment was funny
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 23, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahahha
i read your sig as your response there. well played
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i read an article that said that he sits by himself in the back row of the airplane
for some reason i think of steve buscemi in billy madison
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
con air?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Shut the F*ck up Donny!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Kinda hard to imagine Carp putting lipstick on himself.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Well I'm not sure Gibby
would have merely run at the 2bman and then walked away. I think spikes would definitely be involved.
OTOH, does anyone have personal memories of Gibby being HBP? How did he react?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 23, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Like my dad always said
Gibby was not a nice man (on the field, anyway).
If this would have happened to Gibby, Kelly Johnson would have thought better than to be anywhere near second base.
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
gibby was pretty fast
he would have beaten the throw to second. or probably just stolen the base.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he would have taken the base
nad kelly johnson would have obliged
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Thinking of Gibby . . .
Does anyone have clips of either of these moments?
Willie McCovey was trying to time Gibby from the on deck circle and Gibby brushed him back.
The Ron Hunt faked getting hit with a Gibby pitch to lead off the game. Next time up Gibby drilled him in the ribs. Next time in the knee. Last at bat Hunt was running from the batter’s box as Gibson was winding up. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Greg Jefferies
stands on a chair to weep on Mabry’s other shoulder.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on Apr 23, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
while spiezio
reaches in his pocket to fish out some mood stabilizers?
by _pistol_ on Apr 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
.
“You can’t narrow it down to one thing, but Josh’s death was (the trigger),” Spiezio said. "A lot of things happened to me that I didn’t know how to deal with – all the money, going through divorce, being away from my kids, family arguments, which had never happened before, Hancock dying . . . a whole bunch of things added up to me not knowing who to turn to.
“Instead of dealing with them head-on, I didn’t know what to do. In order to play, I went numb to everything. . . . All of it could have been turned around, but I didn’t want to go to a therapist. I’d figure it out on my own. I’d never lost at anything in my life. I’d always been able to do things people said I couldn’t do.”
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/spiezio-29421-game-home.html
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
"Well, I don't want to blame it all on 9/11, but that certainly did not help"
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
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by tgreenfield on Apr 23, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ah, Jimmy Ballgame.
Aside from those stretches he’d get into at the plate where he looked like he couldn’t hit anything, which could be maddening at times, he was always so much fun to watch. And even when his bat wasn’t on…I don’t know that I’ve ever had more fun watching someone play center, knowing that the improbable (and, sometimes, like the Cincinnati Catch, the impossible) was just around the corner.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
20 Inning Game/Summer of 2000
Why did you have to bring that up? I would have sobbed sweet tears of joy if Roy Hobbs were to pitch again. Just one more 12 to 6, one more scary knee buckler. Maybe a high cheese fastball… whatever. Actually I wouldn’t care if they were meatballs that went 450 feet to dead center, or an el duke ephus pulled to left field for a 410 foot moon shot. Just to see that smooth, effortless throwing motion would be all I’d need. Shades of 2000, just shades is all I need.
Summer of 2000 was a great summer for me in several ways. Getting home from my HS baseball games at night and watching the 11 pm edition of BT (when it was a true highlight show) and seeing Hobbs make hitters look silly. Shaping my game after Vina, the advent of Jimmy Ballgame’s cardinal career, DK, Andy Benes, J.D Drew when I thought he was next Mantle, GG version of Renteria w/ pop, Dave Veres splitter. Was this really ten years ago!?
These thoughts have made my morning, I may actually get some work done on a Friday. Thank you Hobbs.
I completely agree
No matter the outcome, if Ankiel came out and toed the mound in the 18th inning last Saturday, there would have been shades of 2007 Ankielmania all over again.
Meanwhile, the NY Daily News would have been sent scrambling to dig up new dirt on Ankiel lest he revive his pitching career.
by olddomination on Apr 23, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it's inevitable
that ank pitches again. surely it is written somewhere.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Where's the love for David Eckstein?
I know he’s stuck playing for the Padres, but he is still clutch as ever, and I can’t help it I wish we still had him at 2nd. Love ya Skip, but I miss Eck!
The eckstein era perfectly peaked with the WS, imo
I have fond memories of him, but also don’t wish he was on the team still. Fsr, to me the timing of the Eckstein phenomenon was perfect—the peak, the departure, all of it.
Boog was pretty despondent that he was next in line, yet Eckstein was still blocking him
but you know. the way Boog is despondent about stuff. the thing is, that’s before he got his * together. imagine if he’d given up before then.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
eckstein is the last thing this team needs
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 23, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I have fond memories of Eck
At his peak he hit about as well as Skip does now. I don’t remember how good his defense was, but he really made the most of his physical limitations.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I could get on board with it if you said...
that in his career year he hit almost as well as Skip does now.
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
Doesn't peak = career year?
I only meant the one year. Should have made that clear. He wasn’t with us all that long anyway.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
what about Edgar Renteria?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions
or Tim Jones?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
well, I don't think he plays baseball anymore
but we know what happened to Jason Marquis, JD Drew, _ ___, Aaron Miles (at the end of the bar)
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
.757 OPS so far
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone remember ex-Cards Jamie Moyer or Lance Johnson?
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 23, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember Lance
and Chuck Carr.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I wonder what the dirty bird
Steve Kline is up to
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions
found
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 23, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm...wonder if #12 is any relation.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
ha!
nice
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
what about the Simo-Man?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 11:58 AM EDT reply actions
He was pitching in the Dominican Winter League
for someone (Puerto Rico?) this year.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's a little weird to me that Tatis is still playing in the majors
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions
You mean
that Tatis disappeared and then came back to play in the majors.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
does anyone know why the hiatus?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Along with Polanco
It seems so long ago for some reason. Maybe because our infield turns over every season (sans 2010).
Hey Ump!
thinking back on Matt Morris and Daryl Kile
it seems that the cards, or Dave Duncan, or whatever, have a nice penchant for the curveball.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions
McDonalds St. Louis Cardinals Ticketfest codes
McDonalds Ticketfest is back again this year. McDonalds is offering various coupons codes good for various discounts for games Monday thru Thursday.
I just got finished cracking the best codes
These are the ones I have so far
$10 off Cardinals Tickets – MCD154
Big Mac Land Tickets for just $1 – MCD337
$20 off Cardinals Tickets – MCD481
$50 off All-Inclusive Tickets – MCD526
$5 Cardinals tickets – MCD673
$50 off Legends Club Tickets – MCD764
$20 of complimentary Cards Cash – MCD865
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
what do you mean
They are working fine for me
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm putting in the coupon code
and it’s still asking to charge my full price.
Tested them all out on this Thursdays game. no dice.
which code
and you clicking on the right link. The one I supplied and put the code in the right spot?
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Flim another master stroke. Any suggestions on circumventing MLB's Asia blackout on telecasts?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
worked for me
wish i had a use =(
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 23, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a VEB exclusive
I would prefer scalpers didn’t get hold of these codes and use all the games up.
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I really the only person to rec this?
Pay the man his recs, people!
You can read it in any tone you like.
In which case, I also rec’d that, and I’m an idiot.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Apr 23, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
the discussion of edmonds and ankiel has me thinking...
someone mentioned last week, knowing everything we know now, would we have done the Rasmus-Halladay deal when Toronto was offering it. i think most of us said no, in favor of having rasmus cost-controlled so we could sign holliday and pujols. lets say we did do it, who would be playing CF for the Cardinals today? would it be Jim F. Edmonds?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Hmm...intriguing.
I’ll say yes…which, obviously, would be a bit of a drop-off in the lineup as currently constructed…but good heavens, that rotation…
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
Good heavens...
that payroll!
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
Well, yeah.
Which is why it never would happen in the real world. But let a boy dream, huh?
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
we could literally play two chairs in the field
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I always liked Julian Tavarez.
He was so crazy and entertaining. It’s sort of like the way people now feel about Motte, except Motte has upside.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
He could probably still be a decent guy in the Cubs pen.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
Well, bullpen careers are like that.
He was a crappy swing man for a long time, had a few good bullpen seasons, became a crappy swing man again, and I guess he’s out of baseball now, although he really could probably still get righties out.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
But the thing is
With Motte, I just get the feeling that he’s just generally a bit off-kilter. With Tavarez, I was genuinely concerned that he might haul off and shank someone.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
This is true.
If Motte is neurotic, Tavarez seemed to have a streak of genuine psychopathy.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
Tell that to the dugout phone...
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
Who was the cup-of-coffee lefthander who broke his pitching hand by slugging a wall after batters repeatedly slugged his balls - err make that pitches
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
there nothing wrong with Motte
I like to smell things too
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Apr 23, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
I'm reccing this.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I looooved Tavarez.
My favourite Julian moment is when he stared a batter back to second by sort of thrusting his head toward the guy and glaring at him. Very Slingblade. (That was my nickname for him, by the way.)
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 23, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I shore don't like that ther dugout phone mm-hmm.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Apr 23, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
some folks call it a beanball. i call it a brushback. mm-hmm.
sure could do with couple more of them french fried pertaters.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 23, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know I am a rec whore
but comments written in Karl’s voice will always get a rec from me
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
god, that swing Dan linked...
that’s just a thing of beauty. i miss Edmonds.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Is there another hitter in baseball history...
that can get on top of a chest high fastball like Jimmy could/apparently still can?
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
who knows. from the left side? i don't know.
I know N(IC)CAMFVG, but this to me was one of the reasons MVP 04 was the greatest baseball game of all time… if Edmonds got thrown that pitch, you had to mess up to not hit a moonshot. try the same thing with any other lefthanded hitter… and you hit a weak little fly to right field.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
Never played the show
but nothing will surpass MVP baseball. RBI what?
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
If you're referring to Pujols...
I don’t know that I agree. Pujols can do some crazy stuff with pitches in on his hands, and low and away, but I don’t remember seeing him lean back like Edmonds and Tomahawk fastballs into the stands (between the foul poles).
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
because he doesn't need to lean back
to hit a neck high fastball into the cheap seats
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
OT: HitTracker shows Colby's big shot from last game at 447 feet. the other one was 384, his shortest of the year.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
All of his HR so far are either "no doubt" (2) or "plenty" (3),
and all but one of them would have been gone in any park in baseball. I remember looking at his #s at some point middle/late last season and it was similar – he had very few “lucky” HR, and one of the highest average HR distance. Basically when he hit one he really hit one.
by BTown Birds fan on Apr 23, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Wasn't he in the top 10 in average HR distance last year?
This could be easily checked, but that would mean navigating away from Perez Hilton’s site.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
because "Blake Hawksworth" and "San Francisco" should really be funnier
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/apr/23/blake-hawksworths-blog-enjoying-big-league-life-ro/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Help with a Baseball question
and if you guys think that maybe this is better suited for its own fan post then I can do that too but…
Why is it that a left handed batter has so much more trouble hitting a left handed pitcher than a righty does with a righty pitcher? Is it because there are so many fewer right handed pitchers and there is left exposure to them? Or is it something that I’m not thinking about that would make a mechanics of a left hander vs. a left hander different than a righty vs. righty situation.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
I would say 2 reasons.
1. The obvious reason that left handed hitters just don’t see a lot of left handed pitchers.
2. The strike zone is smaller for left handed players than right handed players. If you look at how umps handle lh hitters and you see their is a bias in their strike zone
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
can you please explain number 2?
what should i look for next game when a lefty bats?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The outside of the called strikezone to a LHH is a good 2 inches off the plate
Not afraid to nitpick
hmmm
why is that? Is it because the umps are used to calling the ouside corner for right handers out of the right side of their peripheral vision? and so they are less adept at calling it the same when a lefty bats?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Dominant eye.
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on Apr 23, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
gotcha
i love this site
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
it was.
spants, you are relentless.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
also may have to do with where the umpire sets up
he has to choose to crouch either behind the catcher’s left or right shoulder. don’t know if they typically switch for LHHs vs. RHHs but i imagine it skews perspective either way.
I doubt it
I think given that EVERY umpire does the same thing, that’s the way it is taught.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah
You always set up on the inside corner. I don’t think there’s any difference in the strike zone to lefty/righty batters.
Not at all what I said
There is quantifiably a significant difference between the LH-zone vs. the RH-zone. Random example Scott Olsen vs. the Phillies.
The 4 called strikes to the LHH are off the plate outside by the book but are regularly called strikes by MLB umps. This kind of thing happens basically every game and RHH don’t have those pitches called against them nearly as frequently. Lefties hit with a different strike zone.
Not afraid to nitpick
that is really interesting.
i’d like to see some data from a righty-righty match up in the same game, to see if this is really true.
no wonder they beat left-handed children into becoming righties. oh, that don’t do that anymore? ….hmmm
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
this is something i have never heard before
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't know that I agree with the premise behind the question, tbh.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i think it's a matter of exposure
that begins at a young age.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ode to jim edmonds
there once was a centerfielder named jim
i have so many great memories of him
the catch that robbed brad
in that moment he had
a gold glove on the end of his outstretched limb
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Apr 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
the last line is a bit wordy
but still… good job
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It was good until the last line.
But solid :)
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
meh
i was trying to be poetic. should have known that poetry has no place in limericks.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
bj rains is re re re re self-tweeting himself again.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I still have no idea who this person is
I gather that he’s a singer of sorts, but to my knowledge I’ve never heard any song he’s done. I’ve seen a couple pictures, but I don’t think I’ve ever seen him for real, like on TV or anything. Basically I have no idea who the hell this kid is and I intend to keep it that way. I guess throwing him into a volcano would serve that goal, so I’m all for it.
by mattyp on Apr 23, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If you were a 12 yo girl,
you would know who he is.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
this is reasonable
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I just heard on the radio about Shelby Miller
11IP 21 strikeouts and a 10:1 gb/fb ratio…. dave duncan is pleased
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions
what are we waiting for
call him up! Just kidding.
So far, I’m extremely impressed with the kid. At this rate, I’d give him 2-3 more starts at Quad Cities, and then send him to Palm Beach to finish out the year (or maybe move him up to AA for a start at the end of the season if this continues). I hope he keeps up the good work.
I know there are a whole lot of people here that would like to see him at QC
I say he gets til Memorial Day and if he’s still dominating then it be time to send him to the Beach
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
i want to see him pitch for QC in peoria before they move him up
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
when is that again?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Maaaaaan, I really wanna see him play in Fort Wayne.
Unfortunately; QC doesn’t come to FW this year…
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
Indeed :P
The best pitcher I have ever seen in Fort Wayne was Jake Peavy. I think that was about 10 years ago when he was with the Wizards briefly.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
Joakim Soria pitched here for a little bit too...
…still pumped that I got to see Mat Latos make it from Low-A to the Majors in less than a full season.
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
I don't remember Soria
I did see Latos though.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
QC doesn't come to South Bend this year either.
Seriously disappointed about that.
i'd like to see him get at least a few months at QC and finish up at palm beach.
i might have said more like july for the transition, but the general notion seems right to me.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
So is my math right?
Carp most likely hangs em up in a couple of years…. Waino becomes Carp… miller becomes waino… carp becomes duncan?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Miller is way, way too far away to make any plans including him
A tick in the elbow and he’s out for the year, a little shoulder pain and he never makes it, he never figures out a changeup he never makes it, etc.
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah... wishful thinking on my part
still would be cool though
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
waino becomes electric?
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
the only thing waino becomes
is self aware. and when that happens, carlos beltrans the world over best look out
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 23, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So, when Haren comes back, he becomes...
Adam Kennedy?
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
anybody can play second
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Good reporter gave RB
a shout out for his Musial article. I will say it again, if you haven’t read it, you need to.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
well now the pd won't load....
It’s in the 10@10 today…number 8 I think.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Hey, cool.
i hadn’t seen that.
We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.
by the red baron on Apr 23, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
My father died recently. Our last conversation concerned the Cardlinals prospects.
Pop spoke of players from the 40s as though they were current players. Cooper brothers, Kurowski and of course Musial. I wept
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
Wow. At least he was mentally in an era of fantastic Cardinals players.
You can read it in any tone you like.
are all of the rest of you at work?
or are you at home?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
I am trying to get some work done here
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
i really shouldn't ever log into this website from work
it is destructive of my work ethic
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It keeps me from going insane
from spreadsheets and a computer system that idolizes Carp.
Yes, OCSDGAF.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
slacker
j/k
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
so i was looking up pictures of keith hernandez in google...
http://yfrog.com/iycoolstarwarsphotowookiej
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions
OT
If i got a custom Jersey with Cory Ramos 28 on the back do you think anyone in NYC would get the joke?
Would I have to explain myself to everyone everywhere i went?
I think it might be hilarious.
thats a lot of money to spend on a meme
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's 36 bucks
minus 20% and I like the jersey but don’t really want to pick a favorite player/put my name on the back.
haha
i don’t know if i would tell you if you just told me that my idea was stupid
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
why?
I have stupid ideas all the time and I appreciate when someone tells me they’re stupid. It’s probably saved my life on more than one occasion.
some people react differently than others
somebody else might be put off by that
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
so me telling someone their idea is stupid is a stupid idea?
Thank you, I’ve learned something again. See, it’s a flawless method.
by mattyp on Apr 23, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
what is that supposed to mean?
I just said that you told the guy his idea was stupid and then immediately asked where he got a deal like that. Some people might be put off by that. I never once said that your idea was stupid, I was just commenting on how I thought what you said was funny.
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
but he said "no offense," so the OP cannot therefore be offended
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I could quote Pulp fiction here but f*ck it
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I see
I quit buying custom t-shirts and jerseys after my parents got me a custom eckstein batting practice jersey
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
no because i didnt want another jersey of somebody who played for only a year or two
I have a pujols home… a herr powder blue away and an eckstein spring training. the last one that i want to get a is a stan musial throwback (6 is my number too)
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
that was some damn pitiful punctuation on my part
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
i require an official waino jersey
i would also very much like a gibson jersey and a holliday tshirt
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I want a bunch of M&N jerseys,
3bills is just a lot of cash to drop.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
wow,
$210 for that gibby jersey
tempting
if only i weren’t moving in a month
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i wouldn't want to have to move that
especially if flights of stairs were involved.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 23, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey dug
I was wondering where you got that jersey. I’m a little short on cash and I’d LOOOVE to spend $36 dollars on one.
by LandSickness on Apr 23, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I have an Illinois basketball jersey
with Buscemi 13 on the back, b/c I once had a dream Steve Buscemi played PG for the Illini. When I woke up I ordered “his” jersey. It confuses everyone who sees it until I tell the story behind it. Then they’re still confused.
Whats with all the Buscemi references today?
oh indeed
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
I wouldn't
But I never thought that was all that funny anyway after the 2nd day.
Not afraid to nitpick
since you've asked...
No, no one in NYC would get the joke. And the joke isn’t funny anyway.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
if you put "o. perez" on the back, with 36M as the number, new yorkers might find THAT funny.
or they might stab you with a sharpened screwdriver. or both. new yorkers are funny that way.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
So, I'm filing for divorce now...
I sent my wife an e-mail saying I wanted this
for my 30th birthday.
She responds: Who’s Tudor?
by Mister Eff on Apr 23, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Not sure how that falls under irreconcileable differences though with a little bit of edumacation
Not afraid to nitpick
Yeah, I suppose.
Now, if she follows that up by lavishing effusive praise on Doc Gooden, THEN you can file for divorce.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
is that a majestic cooperstown collection one?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
cool
just don’t get fat… i have a Medium Tommy Herr Powder blue… that baby gets a bit tighter when I put on a few pounds
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I've got a game worn Geronimo Pena 1988 St Pete Cards jersey
it fit me great when I was 21. At 29, it’s disgusting.
it is the risk you take with a pullover jersey
well except for hockey and football jerseys… those are usually cool unless you go way downhill
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 23, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Still trying to come to grips with
“Geronimo Pena 1988 St Pete Cards jersey”
Not sure that doesn’t scare me.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Who's Bill Murray?
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Apr 23, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
She was probably all like "Henry the VIII was a jerk!"
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Apr 23, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that also explains the divorce. . . anyone know what Tudor is doing now?
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I used to hate Will Clark
but then this happened: 1.081 OPS and 166 OPS+ w/Cards!
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/clarkwi02.shtml
very nice postseason showing also w/Cardinals, ended his career nicely
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 23, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions
Never hated Clark
Probably because of what he did to Chicago in the 89 LCS.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
He didn't deserve to be eaten.
Oh wait, that was Jack Clark.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
by hazel on Apr 23, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wierd fact
But saw Ryan Ludwick on ESPN’s first take today. And apparently his older brother was part of the package the Cards gave for Mark McGwire. Did everyone else already know this? And I had no idea where else to really put this.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
That's right...
Eric Ludwick. I’d nearly forgotten about that.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
i knew that
but only remembered as you brought it up
pitcher, no?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Yea
Theres some wierd snychronicity there. I mean with the Ludwick, Cardinals,McGwire ties.
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
and belleville's own TJ Matthews
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person
follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt
And now, a random carp picture...
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Well.
That puts a whole new spin on Carp love.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
And ManFish Stew
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Save that for the next D-Backs series.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Note to vexed and all other Photoshoppers
This carp with Penelope Cruz, por favor.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
saint penny being violated by a huge carp
it doesn’t get much better than that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I can make this work....
…..You want Penelope on bottom; other dude replaced?
Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.
BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
I always want Penelope on bottom
And no dudes. Too weird for me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
by mysterui on Apr 23, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this is a must-read for two reason
Why the Z move was bad for Cubs
one, he pretty much makes a ton of sense and explains why this is terrible
two, the comments say it was a good move and its laughable what some are saying
i guess i underestimated how stupid cubs fans are
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
here's my favorite.... this got got 6 recs for w/e reason
“"I don’t want to look at statistics which disprove my uninformed opinion." "
- talking about the article…..
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 23, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Um...
I think that post is referring to it’s parent post, not the main article.
Unless, I’m misreading your post.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i don't know
i hope for the sake of the cubs fans that its referring to the parent post and not mr. sports know it all
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 23, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The reason
I say that is that the main article does use statistics, whereas the parent post blabbers about Silva doing this, that, and the other without any numerical support (other than mentioning he’s 3-0).
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
ok well that's better
they aren’t THAT stupid…. but its amazing how many ppl support it
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 23, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Half of them aren't that stupid.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
half of the time
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you're right - it's referring to the post to which it is a reply
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
As you wish
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on Apr 23, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love it when Cubs fans wanna kill each other
I love it when VEP puts Cubs fans in their place
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
I'm not familiar with BCB
But reading all the way through the comments:
1. Al is Hendry, or maybe his brother.
2. Most of the commenters don’t really understand baseball.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
The better portion of that board is still in the dark ages of baseball.
They don’t understand advanced statistical analysis at all.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Apr 23, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think you've got an extra word in there
They don’t understand advanced statistical analysis at all.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on Apr 23, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They don’t understand advanced statistical analysis baseball at all.
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Apr 23, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
full circle?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
to be fair
they haven’t exactly witnessed much baseball in the last 100 years
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
by mattyfrommo on Apr 23, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love how he links that goofy picture of Soriano with "sunk cost"
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
this was nice:
“…Jon Garland-for-Matt Karchner / Kyle Lohse-for-Rick Aguilera / Jose Ceda-for-Kevin Gregg deals that have literally shaved years off my life — that’s right, each of those transactions came to my apartment in the form of a razor, and with patented lift-and-cut technology smoothly removed time from my existence in a single stroke. Sure, it sounds exceptionally efficient, but the whole process is, in reality, quite painful.”
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
If Yadier Molina continues to play stellar defense until his late 30s
and maintains his ba/obp/slg/ops from the last few years accordingly, is he a hall of famer?
Ehhhhh I don't think so. Does he compare to Posada/Pudge?
I say no
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Well, maybe not with the bat
And he’s probably similar to Pudge (at his peak) as a defender, but he’s far superior to Posada in that regard, I’d say.
"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols
depends....
Yadi will have to start juicing for us to know how he might compare to Pudge.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 23, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe with 10 or more gold gloves and a lot of clutch playoff performances
I think he could do it
by LandSickness on Apr 23, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
The Pudge comparison would be an interesting one.
Posada is mediocre at best with the glove, based on superficial statas like PB/WP and CS% alone. He’s never won a Gold Glove (and you know, being in NY if there were even a hint of a chance that he would deserve a GG, he would have won at least one).
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 23, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, sorry, you weren't just talking defense.
My bad. Reading fail.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 23, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
why is ted simmons a coach with the padres?
hope that answers your question.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
of course he wasn't
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I still have no idea how "why is ted simmons a coach with the padres?" was supposed to answer
the original question.
the answer is within the question
or at least an answer to a question within the question. probably would have made more sense to just type “no”
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
just tying some things together, though loosely
ex-cardinals and hall-of-fame discussions always bring simba to mind. is ted simmons in the HOF? no.
seriously though, i do wonder why he’s a padres coach and not a cards coach. i’d like to see him back in uniform.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the CS%, the pickoffs, and even the recent drop in SB attempts against him
I would think would need to be brought up in any HOF discussion after Yadi retires. Catchers rarely, if ever, have such an effect on the other team’s running game. And it’s not like he’s had one good/fluky season.
When I saw this
I thought it was a sweet band name
by LandSickness on Apr 23, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
There's a fair chance
that I’ll be blind drunk before first pitch.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
damn you rogues
its exam season, stop making me want to drink.
*I will not drink* *I will not drink* *I will not drink* …much
ricky horton sitting in for al tonight
http://twitter.com/RickyH49/status/12726083317
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Well, you'd better hurry then.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Who's out there?
Is it mojo? We need to dispatch him to the booth.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I'm in LA... that's a 5 hour drive for me
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
To the mysterui mobile?
You can read it in any tone you like.
by spants on Apr 23, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
Awesome.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
lineup! (the ususal)
skip
luddy
albert
holliday
rasmus
molina
freese
ryan
garcia
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
HI MAY! vs TIMMAY!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I feel like we should bitch aboot this lineup....
just for old times sake.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I want Joe Mather gosh darn it!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
yes but what does that have to do with the lineup exactly?
by FunkeeC on Apr 23, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
HE'S NOT IN IT!
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
Y'all are just ridiculous.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I didn't set anything up on purpose.
I promise.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
How is he not starting?
I’m getting my pitchfork.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
lol @ "the usual"
1-8 has not been this consistent in a really, really long time.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
OT: Dock Ellis & the LSD No No
This is awesome. Sorry if it has been posted before but it is definitely worth posting again.
...
I’m going to be in STL during the July 4th weekend, and I hope that Jimmy plays at least one of the games, because whenever he’s at bat or makes a great play, I’ll cheer for the guy. Jimmy was with us for 8 years, and he was one of my favorite Cardinals during his time here. I don’t care if he’s with the Untuckers, he’s still a Cardinal to me.
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
Felipe Lopez for closer!
OT: I just wanted to thank this community for being, on the most part, rational
I’ve been hanging out over at Turf Show Times the last few days following handegg, and people are lambasting management on the basis of two picks that are, in my eyes, rational, if not admirable. They drafted the #1 QB on their board and they drafted an OT to protect their investment.
I can understand not agreeing with the picks, but I can’t understand saying that our management is stupid, and that they don’t know what the needs of our teams are
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
i just don't understand them
i was hoping that the rams would draft a wide receiver, but maybe they will later on…
/end handegg
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
Felipe Lopez for closer!
There are PLENTY of receivers that will be available when we pick next
Tate, Benn, Williams, Lafell, and Gilyard are all still on the board right now.
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Jacoby. Ford.
Get it done Rams.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
cdgafaynfltb
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
yes ive been spoiled by the level of inteligence here
but yes other than van ram and 3k, i can say im not fond of the level of discourse over there
i just read the main posts and dont ready the comments at all
It's kind of sad you have to give credit to the Rams for not fucking up their draft
but they haven’t fucked it up!
I hate that blog...
I was the #8 guy to register, got banned for something I can’t recall, still can’t log on.
Not that I have anything intelligent to say about Rogers Scaffold. Maybe they were right to ban me.
Franklin !#@$!&*%#
sometimes I think the mods here should ban people more often ( I am looking at you Eff!)
but most times I am pretty happy that our mods don’t think they are ruthless dictators of the blog world
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
Hard to make a 1-15 team worse. . .
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
I don't know if any of you read TFLN,
but this is priceless.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
too bad all college profs aren't like that
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
Felipe Lopez for closer!
Is the SBN search function
dead for anyone else?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Quiz time
Some of these are easy, some are very hard….give your best answers, without googling them or looking for them elsewhere online. The questions are about the current 26 players on the Cardinals’ roster (includes LaRue on DL):
1) Which STL draft class has the most members on the current Cardinals roster?
2) Which current Cardinal was drafted earliest in his draft?
3a) How many current Cardinals were drafted in the first round (remember, sandwich picks are considered first-round picks by Baseball-Reference)?
3b) Can you name them?
4) Which current Cardinal was not drafted?
5) Which current Cardinal was drafted in the lowest round (first round=highest)?
6) Which current Cardinal was drafted in the lowest round by the Cardinals? (not the same answer)
I’ll have the answers up very late tonight, after I get back from my kids’ school fundraiser.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 23, 2010 6:57 PM EDT reply actions
I know none of them so here are the best guesses
1) 2005
2) Mr IDGAF
3a) 6
3b) uh … Carp, Razmus, Waino, Penny, Ludwick, Lopez,
4) Garcia
5) Lohse
6) Hawksworth
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
Answers
1) 2005, with 5 (Rasmus rd 1, Anderson 4, Boggs 5, Stavinoha 7, Garcia 22).
2) Flopex, #8 overall in the ’98 draft, by Toronto.
3a) 5.
3b) FLopex 1-8, ’98, Carpenter 1-15, ’93, Rasmus 1-28, ’05, Waino 1-29, ’00 and TMiller 1-41, ’91.
4) D Reyes, signed as amateur FA by Dodgers in ’93.
5) Lohse, 29th rd, by the Flubs in ’96
6) Hawksworth, 28th rd in ’01.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 24, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
so the royals released juan cruz
and called up puppykicker.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Rand Thompson is a crappy philosopher and his books are crappy crap filled crap fests
Wait what
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
good ol' pk
/glad he’s not a cardinal anymore
Best moment I've ever seen at a Cards game in person
Felipe Lopez for closer!
was listening to the game on the radio
had to text my royals friend (everyone is obligated to have a royals friend, no?) and laud Meche’s efficiency – 70+ pitches in 3 innings. Then they got PK up and, I kid you not, the announcer says, “Thompson starts throwing up in the bullpen.”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
do we want juan cruz he wasn't even good enough for the royals
/end dayton moore logic
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Apr 23, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
giants site is pretty funny
long discussion of larussa included this:
“he advocates forcible removal of animal gonads as well.
He might be history’s greatest monster.”
by DrStankus on Apr 23
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
McC
Is pretty hilarious. I follow the Giants somewhat, but it’s mostly the community over there I enjoy lurking at. It may not have quite the level of in-depth discussion as we get here, but….there’s a certain appeal the crude…hilariousness….that goes on there. Just don’t take it personal when they bitch about various Cards – it’s only personal to them when the Dodgers are in town.
as it should be
although it irked me a little to see jose called a clown in the photo caption, the caption for wellemeyer made up for it:
“San Francisco Giants starter Todd Wellemeyer is a, uh, 31-year-old man, and he…wears a cap on his head, and, uh, I’m sure his mother loves him very much. Now let us never speak of him again.”
enjoy him, san francisco, he’s all yours now.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 23, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I misread advocates as avocadoes...
…and I got really pissed off.
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
understandable
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Just ran into the Angels scouting director
He is in town scouting a 1B for LIndenwood. He shook his fist when I mentioned Brandon Wood
what'd he mean by the fist shake?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He was talking about their third base problems
I mentioned Brandon Wood. He talked about his great AAA numbers but how he stunk in the MLB
by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 23, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
The wayback machine...
HR: SD: Gwynn (1).
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
And a Gonzalez slam
makes it 10-0 over Cincy.
Hi Dusty!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
while watching a replay of Game 6 of the 2003 NLCS yesterday
some Cub fan in the crowd had a sign that read “Dustiny”
I lulz’ed
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 23, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Dusty'd take Floppy back and use him for a pitcher now that his elbow is sore. . .
. . most of Baker’s pitchers wind up that way.
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
My favorite Cardinals player will always be Albert
but my favorite player of all-time started out with the Cards, but really made a name for himself as a Pirate…thats right. Its Andrew James Van Slyke. I have vague memories of the 85 NLCS (I was 4) and my dad says I cried and cried on April 1, 1987 when the Cards traded him, Mike LaValliere and Mike Dunne to the Pirates for Tony Pena. My dad even took us to Pittsburgh in 1988 to watch Andy play a home game (Leyland gave him a day off that day). I wore #18 in Little League just like he did, and I nearly have at least one copy of every baseball card he ever appeared on. I was also disappointed when he tried to make a comeback with the Cards, only to be TLR’ed. I would even watch Tiger games of late just to see him in uniform again( but I’m not sad that he failed to get his first World Series ring in 2006)
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions
Are you me?
I seriously thought after reading that someone was messing with me. I was a huge van slyke fan and around the same age. From the baseball cards to my dad always taking me to games when the bucs were in town, that sounds like my childhood. I also share his bday and have been lucky enough to meet him a couple times.
by cdc81 on Apr 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if you guys start fighting over him...
not that there’s anything wrong with that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I wrote him an email when he worked at KFNS (or whatever station he worked at)
asking his opinion on Pete Rose for a speech I was doing on Charlie Hustle, he didn’t answer though:(
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 23, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Maaaaan, Indiana sucks...
We don’t have a state insect or a state instrument.
But we gotta state flower…and the Peony sucks.
Though I’m supportive of the state bird…the Cardinal.
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
mosquito and xylophone are available
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'll bet that dung beetle and glockenspiel are too
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 23, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd vote for Stinkbug and Theremin.
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
girlfriendup
is currently interpreting for several Indiana cities while they choose sister-cities in Tochigi prefecture, so I feel closer to the state than I have since I watched the Pacers destroy the Celtics (my childhood favorites) in Conseco Fieldhouse. Where do you live? She just finished interpreting for the mayor of Madison, but I can’t remember who she’s been talking to before that.
Fort Wayne; same as Taskmaster...
….oddly, I’ve never met him. Haha
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
in honor of ex-cardinals day
just saw suppan deliver a pitch, edmonds make the catch.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
This series against the Giants
kind of scares me. Lincecum is scary good, and Zito has been pitching pretty deep into games as of late. The ‘back end’ of the Giants bullpen is lights out, far superior to our own…the only weakness they have as a pitching staff is Wellemeyer, and maybe long/middle relief. As we won’t be facing Wellemeyer in this series, our best hope is to rack up high pitch counts fast, and force the Giants to put Medders/Joaquin into the game, rather than just Romo, Affeldt, Wilson.
they have to score to win
they’re not very good at that. Of course I just totally jinxed it I’m sure…
cheer up
SF’s lineup is….
Torres
DeRo
Panda
Huff
Bengie Molina
Uribe
Downs
Schierholtz
Lincecum
not exactly Murderer’s Row
No, it's not exactly a good lineup.
But the pitching keeps them in games, and sometimes a blind squirrel finds a nut with men on base.
I'm confused.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
He was SBN'd
while posting about a previous SBN’ing. It’s a recursive SBN’d.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 23, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
I saw. See below.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
wat
why won’t you post my reply
i’ve been staring at this for several minutes:
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
hit preview and post that way
this was happening to me last night. I think it has to do with all the extra activity due to the draft. At least thats what I’m blaming it on.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
That's been happening to me too.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 23, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
icles
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
pops
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
shit sounds good
first day of the year that i would qualify as hot
don’t make me go to the store
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
puppykicker in for the royals LOL
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
Yep, they're positive
can’t watch the game tonight, so I will say this ahead of time…
What the fuck is this shit??
Proud adopted parent of the ball dudes, who have grounded into 109 fewer double plays than the Giants.
by DJ Tofu on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 PM CDT
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
reply Fail?
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Apr 23, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Preemptive bitching, I believe.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 23, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
What he said
SBN’ed
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
A fan over at McCovey, getting the complaint in early
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
we used to pull that in wiffle ball
but that’s pretty incredible.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Tony called Razzles a "Cool Customer" in pre-game
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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
3rdeded
Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.
he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.
by bearcatcardfan on Apr 23, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Forced.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
[say with lisp]
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Apr 23, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
going up as I type
well, not literally, I mean I have to go into the other window and start it. I think the SBN auto-schedule was set a little too late.
Just saw this in the article
every other nine year-old’s favorite player in 1996.
Now I feel old…
/20in1996
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
7... HA!
:)
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
by ClemsonGirl on Apr 23, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeahhhhhhhh 9!
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck
by vexedtechie on Apr 23, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL at Garcia calling
Waino “Bueno”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
damn, I was out of the room
what’d he say
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He was talking about the rotation
and how great it is to be in a rotation with guys like carp and bueno. It might have just been his accent, but it sounded like that was his pet name for ADAM.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
cool
i get to listen to dan and ricky when they’re off the air
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
FSMs
The Cat and Motte
Mottie saying “Pitching is location, location, location.” the scintillating story of how he became Frankie’s warm-up partner. it’s hard bein’ on the road, etc. And yes… he said it: “The second pitch.” once again guys were messing with Motte off-camera.
shots of Albert and Barry talking to the SF guys, laughing it up with Yadi
shot of Ludwick seemingly sleeping in the grass
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that's Barry Weinberg.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 23, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
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