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2010 Draft Preview part Six: Various Positions 2

You know what I don't want to talk about? Last night's game. Just an awful performance, one I can only hope won't end up haunting the team down the stretch somewhere. Any time you can get to Dan Haren the way the Cardinals did, the pitching has to find a way to- 

Ah, see, I said I didn't want to talk about last night's game, and here I am doing just that. But no more. I'm just going to chalk it up to one of those nights when things just don't go your way, and that's that. I'm going to do my little draft preview here and be glad we have Chris Carpenter on the mound tonight to hopefully take the rubber game of the series. (Although I'm a little bummed it isn't Garcia, as I have a haiku already composed in my head for a Jaime start.) 

A couple tidbits before we jump: 

 

More after the jump. 

Star-divide

Jedd Gyorko, SS, University of West Virginia

5'11", 185 lbs

DOB: 23rd September, 1988

Player Page

So, what's so great about this guy? 

The people who like Gyorko are going to tell you about Dan Uggla. They're going to tell you Gyorko is a thick-bodied middle infielder with good power potential and the ability to make it as an offense-first second baseman in the big leagues. They may pull out a couple Kevin Youkilis comparisons as well, as both hit from slightly odd-looking stances, feature excellent plate discipline, and have thick, unathletic builds. (Personally, I don't like the Youk comps; Gyorko is nowhere near as big as Youkilis and won't hit for that kind of power.)

Those who don't like Gyorko will point to his lack of athleticism and speed and tell you this is a player who can't make it at either middle infield position and will have to move to a corner spot. They'll tell you his swing is all arms, tailored for metal bats, and his power won't ever translate to more than, say, 10-12 home runs a year. 

I fall somewhere in the middle of those two. I've said it before 'round these parts, and I'll say it again: I like Gyorko, but I don't love him. 

Here's the skinny on his bat: I think Gyorko is going to hit. I do. I think he's going to hit his way to whatever level he needs to. He's got a quick bat, with strong wrists, and he's capable of using the whole field. His swing is a little long for my tastes, but I don't think it's going to hold him back. I think his bat speed and leverage will be sufficient to allow him to hit anywhere from 15-20 home runs at his peak, with maybe even a couple seasons better than that. Even better than his raw hittability, Gyorko sports solid plate discipline, as he walked more than he struck out in 2009 (32 to 25), and posted a .492 OBP. Like I said, he's going to hit. 

Now here's the bad news: I'm not entirely sold on the idea he can play second base. I think he'll make it at second, but I'm not sure he will. What little game footage I've seen of Gyorko says to me he has good hands and enough arm to play anywhere on the infield, but his range is another matter entirely. He could certainly play third, as his reactions and hands are just fine, but he simply doesn't cover much ground, period. He's slow-footed on the basepaths as well. You'll see scouting reports say he isn't a baseclogger, which is code for, "He's really slow, but not quite slow enough to be an honorary Molina." He could probably play left field as well, in the way just about anyone can play left field if their bat is good enough, but left is sort of taken for the foreseeable future here in St. Louis. 

I like Gyorko, but I don't love him. I'm not going to be all that upset if the Cardinals pop him in the first round, as I do think he should be able to play second long-term and I definitely believe in his bat. He wouldn't be my first choice, though, by any means. I think he would make an outstanding supplemental pick, but I'm not sure he'll last that long. He reminds me a bit of another current Cardinal farmhand, Aaron Luna, though Gyorko has better contact skills and less power. 

Gary Brown, OF, Cal State Fullerton

6'0", 185 lbs

DOB: 27th August, 1988

Player Page 

So, what's so great about this guy? 

I can tell you what's so great about Gary Brown, and I can do it in just one word. The word is fast. In fact, Brown is so fast that I have to write fast in italics, and I'm considering putting an extra 'S' or two in there just to help get the message across. I'd like to add speed lines to the word, honestly, but my keyboard doesn't seem to have that function. 

Brown is a definite helium guy this spring, as he has gotten off to a good start at the plate and showcased plenty of that raw athleticism and speed that have long been his calling card. Brown's wheels make him not only a skilled basestealer, but more importantly a premium defender in center field. He has outstanding instincts in the field, gets good jumps, and can flat-out run down just about anything hit from gap to gap. I've seen reports his arm is a tick below average, but I've liked what I've seen of his throwing. He isn't Ankiel, or Rasmus, or Edmonds out there, necessarily, but he's accurate and gets the ball in to the cutoff man quickly. Trust me, he may not have a cannon, but he isn't Johnny Damon out there, either. 

What is less encouraging about Brown are his skills at the plate. He's not a bad hitter, really, and has had a very nice season for Cal-State Fullerton, but there are some definite shortcomings in his offensive game. He isn't particularly strong and doesn't offer much in the way of power. Worse, his plate discipline isn't great either, although his contact ability is very good. I don't like his swing, as he sort of hooks the bat and adds length to his swing. I honestly don't know if that's the type of thing which would specifically hurt a player trying to convert to a wood bat, but I'm telling you what I see, and I'm not all that fond of it. 

I love Brown's athleticism and defense, and could easily see him having solid value as a big leaguer in the mold of Franklin Gutierrez. I don't know if he's quite that good, mind you, but he's cut from similar cloth. It's also possible Brown could make an offensive adjustment or two and improve his offensive performance. On the other hand, he could be nothing more than a more highly touted version of Jim Rapaport. (I don't think so, but hey, you never know.) 

Zach Alvord, SS, South Forsyth High School (Georgia)

6'1", 180 lbs

DOB: 12th November 1992

So, what's so great about this guy? 

See, I had a whole theme thing going for this week's edition, thinking I was going to do three offensive-minded middle infield types who would likely move to other positions, but finally decided one of the three players I had chosen was nowhere near worthy of a first-round pick. (I'd rather not say who, just in case someone related to him is reading and gets insulted. I'll stick him in a persons of interest post down the line, most likely.) Thus, Gary Brown was hastily inserted (That's what she said?), and my theme really sort of went to crap. Oh, well. 

Zach Alvord is basically a high school version of Jedd Gyorko. He's a bit more athletic on the whole, but has a similar lack of range and footspeed which will almost assuredly prevent him from playing shortstop as a professional but should still allow him to play either second or third quite adequately while taking advantage of a plus bat. 

Of course, as a high schooler, Alvord isn't nearly as polished as Gyorko, but I actually think he has better power potential down the road. He has a very good arm in the field, more than enough to play second base, but the reports on his hands are varied. I think it's fair to say Alvord will need a fair amount of work on his defense if he's going to move up in a major league organisation. He reminds me a bit of Niko Vasquez, in that he's a prep middle infielder who is limited by his lack of foot speed but has all the other tools to make it in pro ball. 

Middle infielders with the kind of offensive potential Alvord shows aren't exactly a dime a dozen, so I fully expect him to go off the board fairly early. He would definitely be a reach in the first round, I believe, but again like Gyorko could make a very attractive option in the supplemental round. If he were still sitting there in the second round, I think he would be a steal, so that's about where I peg his value. He's better than the end of the second round, good enough for a supplemental, and a reach at the end of the first. 

That's it for this week, folks. I really need to delve further into the ginormous crop of pitchers which will dominate the early going in this year's draft, and I'll try to get on that soon. Trying to pick through them all is proving to be a daunting task, though. 

The Baron's Playlist for the 21st of April, 2010: Fidelity is for Losers

"For Kate I Wait" - Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti 

"Gold Star for Robot Boy" - Guided by Voices

"Look Good in Leather" - Cody ChestnuTT

"Satan Gave Me a Taco" - Beck

"Casper the Friendly Ghost" - Daniel Johnston w/ Jad Fair

"Fortune Cookie Prize" - Beat Happening

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Get out of my brain.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mow my lawn

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd do it for $30

Plus travel expenses from San Francisco.

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what she said....to the eel?

Wait, can we still do that on here?

Cardinals Baseball 2010...Catch the Infection!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Apr 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not if you want to be back tomorrow.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 21, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely love that song.

It’s so very…Beck.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 21, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Turned om te royals blue jays game

Saw a failed pickoff attempt to first by the cathcer and shouted “You’re not Molina!”

As it turns out it was Jose Molina

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 21, 2010 2:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

And he threw posednik out stealing

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 21, 2010 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can put the message out there

and no one believes

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

100%

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Apr 21, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

0.011%

Or about 1 in 10,000

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

how am I the only one to rec this?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 21, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's blocked...

I can’t rec what I can’t see.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

link

http://i.imgur.com/t1Dac.png

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 21, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good comic

But I refrained from rec’ing because it’s FRICKIN HUGE.

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got the probability to be 4.45*10^-8, assuming the comic takes place the instant our skinny pal turned 21!

by ajabegg on Apr 21, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if it had been me

I believe the answer would have been 0%, assuming I lived long enough to write ‘0%’.
/failing statistics

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huzzah Stats

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how you went

Slow middle infielder, slow middle infielder, Devin Hester of baseball

Thanks as always Baron, these never get old

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 21, 2010 2:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm glad they're appreciated.

I occasionally worry people don’t care all that much, but it seems worth learning about to me.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Apr 22, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 22, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

is Gary Brown

Geronimo Pena fast?

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

..........what about Viva eel Birdos

would the snakepit buy that?
oh, I’ve said too much.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

that's funny

should we embrace the eel, it being the d’backs version of that other team’s goat? maybe we need an ode to the eel.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

I kind of feel bad for them.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The eels?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

eels feel. they have feelings.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true.

They feel delicious, cooked Japanese style with that rice and the sticky brown sauce stuff

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 21, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

what eats eels

besides humans? maybe we can trojan horse the snakepit.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the tipping pitches commercial with dreamy joe is hilarious....

**that WWL for making entertaining ads

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

it's a sunday night baseball ad

I’m not sure where to find it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

(groan...) I just happened across this

WTF Cardinals fans?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

It does.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep the head is too small

and the lack of face/neck fat sort of gives it away

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why?

Couldn’t you have just linked to this?!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

why would you even *link* that to a baseball blog?

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Apr 21, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point!

But if you feel you must, linking is preferable to THAT.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 22, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

so fine

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 21, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 21, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's thinking "i'd so hit that"

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"dat ass"

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 21, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Motte's picture

is either the meme “I haz a sad,” or “Son, I am disappoint.”

Depends on how badly he’s blown the lead, I suppose.

by Michael_68_1999 on Apr 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

or focused

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

With that picture being a little blurry

He honestly looks like he drew eyes on his eyelids and took the picture asleep

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know were i can find

larger version of the gameday pics?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's just say he has the munchies

and the big girl is right there…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's thirsty!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

as long as he's not thursty

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 21, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

falling for that move

has kept it alive at least another five years

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, the "son i am disappoint"

fits the pic really well

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 21, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does VEB understand

That you can link to images?

Seriously, unless it’s something like a WPA graph or something, make it a link.

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

So are you saying no images in the threads anymore?

I honestly am confused

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

how about no tasteless images?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree totally

The post said WPA graphs or something… I just wanted clarification

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just my opinion

On-topic images I’m okay with, but enormous off-topic images are a little annoying. Even more so when they are only questionably SFW.

I’m not saying we should stop off-topic conversation or anything, mind you. But linking to a picture is easy enough.

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

i think that they are really funny sometimes… as long as they can be minimized

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with minimizing images

Is that they come back every time you come back to/refresh a page. It’s easier just to give a link and save the real estate in the comment section, IMO.

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see your point

but some of the charm of watching a game and posting is the funny pics and stuff that people put on here

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I'm less enamored with them

Probably mostly because I spend altogether too much time on the internet and have almost always seen the images before they land on VEB.

I find the influx of 4chan memes recently (troll face, FFFUUUU comics, etc.) mildly unsettling.

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

maybe i haven’t been on enough game threads this year to know what you are referring to

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, for one thing all the lobsters sort of bog down the game thread

it just seems to become a case of oneupsmanship.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the team should address that.

An extra hit now and then wouldn’t hurt.

/kidding

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And GIF's.

Please link GIF’s. My computer really can’t handle those especially when there are lots of comments.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 21, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

102 is a big number.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

does that mean

that albert pujols is a machine?

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No... I think that it implies that Albert is the question for which 42 is the answer

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

are we all wearing 42 tonight?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was a week ago

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

just a joke

cubs and mets both wore 42 couple nights ago.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

my blue font ran out of ink

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was just odd

and i still have no clue as to why.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Home game for Mets

When the Mets came into being, they positioned themselves as the substitute for the Dodgers. So, they coopted Brooklyn’s history in a way. Having their own Robinson Day keeps with that tradition.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure the dodgers appreciate it

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me rephase

Albert is the mechanism built to figure out the question for which 42 is the answer…

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude

he is a machine, that’s what I said in the first place

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess we were just disagreeing on the purpose for his being a machine

maybe he is actually like Data…

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he was the whole factory now?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

you have to know which number is bigger on the scoreboard?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, thats exactly what I posted below that:

Winning: Having a positive difference between the runs you score and the runs your opponents do.

Math!

by all4tookie on Apr 21, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

that pic is as old as the internet. how have you not seen it before now?

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan hired by Reds

I’m mobile or I’d link to it.

So was the solution all along to hire Joe Morgan?

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 21, 2010 3:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Ugh.

Has no impact on his ESPN gig.

http://twitter.com/johnfayman/statuses/12592484878

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess walt needs his advice

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

we were so close!

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn...

my hopes were so high.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wat.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 21, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

he might actually have to watch baseball games now.

On the other hand, probably not.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

would it really make a difference?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

soon to be named as his assistant.....

Dave Concepcion.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Baker plus Morgan

The possibilities are endless!

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

RB - I never know what to write about when you write about the draft.

But I appreciate the work as it’s the only exposure I get to this stuff.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

ditto

I really like these, RB, as you know…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

posting takes awhile

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit

use this link

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, i give up.

i clicked “open in new window” twice and it’s not working. be forewarned.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

MIDDLE-MOUSE CLICK!!!!

That’s the only way to open links….auto-opens in a new tab.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 21, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

Control+click

Right click, Open link in new window/tab

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too many keystrokes in the first one.

Unnecessary extra click in the 2nd one

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 21, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did not know this.....

handy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH SNAP!

I didn’t know that trick! w00tz!!11

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 21, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

or if you have two mouse buttons

right click: open in new tab

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome.

 a cure for SBN’d-ness

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do people not know this?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 21, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

even I knew this

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

the 10@10

of doom

eh, I’m bored.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

You can't tell me he doesn't read the comments here.
(Go ahead, scream sample size … it is the anthem of April.)

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course he reads us

he wishes he were this awesome.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um. . .

he gets paid to watch baseball and blog about it. He’s at least this awesome.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 21, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

we do it for free

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be sweet if he popped in here sometime

remember when keith law did it during the 2006 world series?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well he does link to us

and you know
it is the internet
he could be one of us

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Derrick Goold is....RasmusGirl!

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looks totally different in the video than on the PD

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's his daughter??

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 21, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought rasmusgirl was oldhoss

but she’s goold?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

all right

I am just gonna come out and say it… I think that its Spants… “she” recently has said that “her” whole image was manufactured… it all makes sense… where’s my copy of Catcher in the Rye?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're wrong, you phony.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 21, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

How am I phony?

i may be crazy but im not phony

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i’ve got nothing… you got me

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

just playin

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Catcher In The Rye....Phony.

Holden Caulfield’s go-to term to describe people…

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 21, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry bout that

having never read the book I missed your reference. However a quick wikipedia search cured me of my shortcomings.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

...probably didn't even really give her the time.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 21, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did? what did he say?

wasn’t he the one who said Detroit in 3?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i think that was somebody from USA Today

I don’t remember exactly what he said… and SBN is being so wierd right now I don’t want to search his name.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he was the one continually ripping the Cards' talent

As they kept winning games.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not a defender

but he does have some insight to the game. in his business, you do have to stir the pot to get the three r’s – reaction, readers, recognition.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

but his attitude sometimes is painfully annoying

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

He wasn’t wrong necessarily, but give the team credit every once in awhile.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he picked on the pirates or padres

would anyone notice?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they were in postseason

and playing like that, yes.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yes, we're definitely too close to this

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the pirates or padres disappeared

would anyone notice?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah!

Who is Jim Hendry going to trade with every year?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

everyone would have less wins!

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does.

I don’t care for his tone at all, but it’s important to remember he hates every other team as much as he hates yours while reading his insights.

by Mister Eff on Apr 21, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

keith law = adam dunn?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was Bob Nightengale, I do believe.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Apr 22, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

HI GOOLD IN THE TRUCK

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 21, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Rundown - goner?

Baron! – is the Rundown on temporary hiatus or do I need to refresh my RSS feed? I last saw an entry on 3/19 (both in my RSS and from what I could find on RFT).

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Apr 21, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

No...the link changed....

give me a sec, I’ll find it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know if they've been under "The Rundown" moniker

but he has been writing articles. Here is a great one he wrote just on April 14

by mattyp on Apr 21, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here it is.
Change your bookmark.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo

Thanks RR and Mattyp.

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Apr 21, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a really green eel.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

at first i thought that it was a ninja turtle

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

of the teenage mutant variety, I’m guessing

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kurt Suzuki?!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but i didnt see any weapons… so i can’t tell which one it is

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya wouldn't until it's too late.

they’re ninja.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give it to the snake pit tonight

use your one photo limit wisely.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we all use the eel as our one photo...

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

they will all be immediately deleted, right?

can an eel be hidden in a where’s waldo?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm...

Perhaps we should talk about the new prospect, Hector Anguilla

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i like how you think outside the eel

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

nice

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have photoshop people for these kind of reasons

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

do i even want to know what this is about?

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You need to grace

the Snake Pit with your presence tonight.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't, i'm too busy packing

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

you leaving tomorrow?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

packing?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i have a job interview friday morning in the STL

i’ve been trying to set it up & a few others out here all week, that’s why i haven’t been here much since sunday

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking A dude

your long state-inal nightmare might be over?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know, it's almost too good to be true, this could be like a dream job

i’m so excited yet so scared because i’m waiting for the catch. there’s always a catch

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

not always

see Holliday, 2009 NLDS

by mattyp on Apr 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

low blow

wait…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

too soon

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

waaaaay too soon

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyway, here is hoping you make it back in time for VEB day

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, we'll see. my fingers are definitely crossed

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gyorko

I’m a big believer, and I think he’s the only position player that the Cardinals should consider taking in the first round. I actually think he’s going to have more power by the time he gets to the big leagues because I still think he’s can put on some significant strength.

I agree with you that he’s probably not going to hack it at second base in the big leagues for very long, if at all. He’s definitely got the quickness and arm to be a better than average third baseman and if he’s a 25+ homer guy that hits .280-.300 he’d be a very valuable player at that position and he’d be an Utley type performer at second base if he can stay there.

Seiler’s been dropping Matt Harvey down on his board over the last couple of months. At first he had him going somewhere in the late teens and now he’s sliding farther down the board. Can you think of any reason this would be? The guy was a top 15 talent coming out of high school, and I don’t see why anyone would think he’s gotten worse after a couple of years in college.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

fourstick

is it you that’s been talking about gyorko for awhile?

on harvey, has his velocity dropped? i saw that discussed somewhere but wasn’t paying a lot of attention because he seemed out of our reach.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been on Gyorko all spring

I specifically asked RB about him in an earlier post about prospects.

I’ve seen that discussed in a couple places too. The other thing that I’ve seen is that pitchers who’ve gone to UNC over the last decade have NOT had good injury histories. I don’t know what pitchers they are talking about specifically, but I’ve heard of teams souring on pitchers from USC because of the injury issues with Tom House coached pitchers (Reyes, Prior, etc.) so I don’t know how much there is to that.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm...gonna have to search unc pitchers drafted

and yeah, i thought it was you. that’s the only reason i recognized gyorko’s name in the baron’s post.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

re: Harvey

his command doesn’t seem to have come on in college at all, from what I’ve heard. That could potentially be a bit of a red flag for a more “advanced” prospect. In high school, he’s all projection, now, he’s at least had a couple of years that may have slightly diminished what can be expected, projection-wise. I don’t necessarily know why he’d be dropping down boards very recently, though – maybe some injury concerns?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aaaaaaaand Big Z to the bullpen.

dgoold confirms.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 21, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

you gotta be shitting me… what a cluster F

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS

BCB has a direct line to Pinella

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

when the cubs said gorzellany would stay in the rotation when lilly returned

then it was going to be either big z or silva to the pen – either could be considered the obvious choice, for different reasons.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can only see this ending up bad (for the cubs)

but then again… maybe im just wishfully thinking

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

4yr/~72mil

For a reliever…

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

set-up man?

do they drop marmol down? this could get really good. they might end up missing having milton bradley around.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There were rumblings...

that they might try to part ways with him a la Alex Rios. The Cubs adamantly denied it, then they do this.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet Gatorade is in talks with the military about plastic armor plating

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't big z say he wasn't going anywhere?

i took that to mean he had a no-trade.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean a waiver thing...

where put him on waivers and don’t pull him back when/if he gets claimed. This would send the player and his contract to the claiming team.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

he wouldn’t get claimed, would he? ouch.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

no-one is eating that contract

he’s probably just about worth it now, but in four years? Nuh-uh.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap

there were no comments to the story at BCB 20 minutes ago… there are almost 500 now

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

Now that deal I made to get Rasmus for Big Z looks fantastic!

/yscamftjtot

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Rec'd

For foresight

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yscamftjtot?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang. That has to be it.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think she could have done it in Limerick form

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding

and green

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 22, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

They should make him witness the full duration of the Soriano and Zambrano deals.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like "A Clockwork Orange."

They are paying Z $18M to be a reliever. That is awful.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

anthony burgess does not want to be associated in any way with big z

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are paying Soriano $18MM to be a part-time OFer.

It is the foresight of Jim Hendry that makes this possible. He is like the Jelly of the Month Club, the gift that keeps on giving all year.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's been talk of moving fukodome

but the cubs would have to eat some of his salary.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the same for most of their higher contract guys

I can’t see any way they could move Fuku, Soriano, Z OR Dumpster, with the deals they’ve got. I don’t think I can think of another mlb team with THAT many unmoveable guys. Complete clusterfuck.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

add in Silva as well. Jeez.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

And they wonder why

1) they haven’t won a WS in over 100 years
b) nobody likes them

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 22, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thing the cubs got silva

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

so true.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 21, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to defend the indefensible...

but the Z contract was in the ballpark of reasonable. Soriano’s deal was flat out insane from the get-go. If the Cubs had just cut Z last year, they’d have serious money to play with after this year.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

they could cut z without paying him?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could put him on waivers...

if another team claims him, they could pull him back and keep him, or they could let him and his contract go. The claiming team would then get the player and the contract…. like what happened with Alex Rios and the White Sox.

It’s not clear that anyone would have taken Z and his huge contract last summer or last off-season, but I could see a team that was flush with money taking a chance on a three-win pitcher that could be acquired for nothing. He’s a classis Omar Minaya guy…

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

minaya, hendry...

let’s see how many gm’s big z can get fired.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I just don’t see that happening, somehow. You’re right that he’s maybe a minaya guy, but there were a few good FA pitchers better than Z who could’ve been signed for less money last year, and a few guys who were traded during the season who were better, too. Also, the Mets were out of it by the time they might’ve seriously been considering picking up Z during the season.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Eh...

Can any team expect to pay a pitcher $18M for multiple years and have it work out for the life of the contract?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's kind of working out.

The Cubs aren’t getting a good deal, but they are a high-revenue club and Z is a good pitcher.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering that...

I convinced you of something you didn’t previously believe, you seem strangely unenthusiastic.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You didn't.

I’m still wholly skeptical. But I also realized that this is the Cubs we’re talking about and my commitment to the debate waned dramatically.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you find it funny that every single person who reported this news prefaced it with:

No Joke

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is pretty funny.

God I would hate to be a Cubs fan.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zambrano hasn't been worth his current contract in any year so far

and he won’t be worth it during any year in the future, barring some sort of miracle. It’s a horrible contract.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

and a rec

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

now get to work on the ode to the eel. the ode to the eel should definitely emanate from arizona.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am rarely in game threads because my computer can't handle them

you will have to explain the eel to me.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

eel = bad mojo

AZSnakepit meme

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That they dumped on us last night

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

the eel is apparently the d'backs goat.

bad luck. if you post an eel over at their site, it gets immediately deleted. or if you intentionally misspell words, like reely, that comment gets deleted – or so i’ve heard.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

interesting.

i’m a d-backs fan, and i have never heard this.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's probably just a Snake Pit thing

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget vodka hats....

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and those

it’s just i have no evidence of all this, because by the time i got there it was all deleted. i posted a comment late last night, but you, spants, et al were mentioned in their comment count – the mets do that too – do most sites list who had the most comments in the game thread?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's green.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

you really have a gift

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

The Cubs are paying more than Albert is paid, for relief pitching by someone temperamentally unsuited to the stress of relief pitching.

SWEET.

by madridbend on Apr 21, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So now Lohse > Z
right?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

as a lonely lohse defender

i agree with that math.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha
It also means he won’t have to be pulled for a PH if his turn comes up to bat, and Lou won’t have to worry about the double-switch when putting him in.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

you gotta try to soothe big z with reason

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does this make Lopez

The second best hitting reliever now?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go go Owings?

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 21, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

they should make haren a reliever

he hits like one.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

this would actually be lou, and rothschild

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahahahahahaha
Strikeouts aren’t the only measure of a good pitcher. He has two decent starts and two really bad ones.

Carlos Silva has two really bad YEARS and two decent starts.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is the equivalent of pulling carp out of the rotation to bolster our struggling bullpen

really.

(and carp is cheaper too!, this is madness, i can’t get my head around it)

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's worse than that

It’s moving him to the bench to get 1 PA a game because the bench is struggling.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe not carp

if we agree that carp is one of our two best starters. dare i say, it’s like putting lohse in the pen.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lohse has been as good as carp this year

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

flagged

i dont care if its true.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 21, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can't handle the truth!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um

Didn’t we discuss doing just that in August of 2008?

The circumstances were different, but this strikes me as a bad example.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Waino as well

when he came back from that finger injury. TLR was talking as if it was a done deal, though it never happened.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

this day just keeps getting better & better

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how they are rationalizing that Z can be a pinch hitter

Instead of getting the 2-3 ABs he gets when he starts anyway.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

arguing that with his salary big z should start, came with exchange:

“baseing where a player plays on how much $ they make instead of how they’re performing is dumb….”
by santoswoodenlegs

“yeah, that approach sounds like it came out of left field – oh, wait…”
by ballhawk

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahahahahahaha this has made my day

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 21, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMGCUBSLOL

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

Isn’t it Carp?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Carp.

www.stlcardinals.com

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 21, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of...

In the Strauss chat today he maligned those who were worrying about Carpenter’s health as conspiracy theorists… yet… I hear him on more than one occasion the couple of days following Carp’s start in Milwaukee talking about how he thought that there was something physically wrong with Carp

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

man

The natives are really really restless at BCB… there is a 100 dollar bet now between the guy who runs the site and somebody else as to whether or not the Cubs win 84 games

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

close

but i’d take the under

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

al being frisky, huh? he’s probably feeling good since he called for this the other day. generally i’m happy when al gets his way. earlier in the day rosenthal or one of those they link to at mlbtr thought it would be dempster…that’s when i began thinking big z had a serious chance at the pen.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dempster would've been a terrible choice

he was a crappy reliever who (somehow) turned into an above-average starter.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously

The Cubs are paying a part-time LF $18 million.
The Cubs are paying their opening day starter $18 million to be a relief pitcher instead.

I don’t know if this makes sense, but it seems like the Cubs are like an instructional manual on how to be the Cubs.

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

i always think of gabriel garcia marquez

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

carlos buendia zambrano and carlos buendia marmol and jeff aureliano samardzija

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahhahaha

and ha – that is all.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

not to be confused with jose carlos aureliano silva

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlos Malcienaños Zambrano

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 21, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just have this vision in my head of lou carrying around a bottle of maalox in the back pocket of his uniform

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think lou just wanted big z out of the dugout

now he’s the bullpen’s problem.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

this whole situation has put me in the mood to listen to Mozart for some reason

and I have no idea why

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about the Requiem Mass in D minor by W.A.M.

in honor of the small bears implosion?

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 21, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll cue it up

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always think of the Big Lebowski when I hear this song...

“Mind if I do a J?”

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you know what the song was at the beginning of the movie Trading Places?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

nevermind

marriage of figaro

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of my favorite cartoons: the Rabbit of Seville

Marriage of Figaro + Barber of Seville with Elmer Fudd doing the honors.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not maalox,

it’s bourbon.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

how'd big Z do?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

They haven't told him yet.

Waiting on the reinforcements from Gatorade

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's unfamiliar with that inning

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw cj beatty loves his mom and the bible

in all-caps.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

lineup

skip 4
ludwick 9
pujols 5
holliday 7
rasmus 8
molina 2
freese 5
ryan 6
carpenter 1

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

He got Luggaged

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah...

I thought Garcia pitched first. They must have switched em at some point.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

the fox vs. espn telecast debate

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice lineup

Luddy in the 2 hole just feels right

by mattyp on Apr 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

yes, yes it does

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

not gonna say it

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love Ryan Ludwick to nail me in the ass

wait… what… hang on…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Monk, sometimes you think no one reads this

at least I think so
because the alternative is you believe everyone reads these, and are too speechless to comment….

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 22, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or maybe I'm just a renegade who doesn't play by the rules

but, by God, one who gets the job done.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

so you're saying you're really a movie character

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 22, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

from CT from NSBB straight to you!!!

UMFan83: Good move. Carlos Silva has obviously proven enough in his 2 starts this year that his entire career to this point was a fluke. Also, it’s pretty obviously that Gorzelanny getting drilled in the arm with a line drive will give him super powers. There was just no room for Z in this super rotation.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

FING SBN won't let me reply. WTF. i hit reply & it jumps to the top of the page. WTF

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

It's been weird all day.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It, like everything else,

is out to get you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

not so fast!

after 4 refreshes i can reply now

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're instituting a new...

comment limit for screen names with more than 30,000 comments. It’s to save bandwidth, and they figure nobody has 30,000 witty/intelligent comments in them anyway…

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi2 & i are screwed

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

this might be the night

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reply fail

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

see you guys later

Go Cards!

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 21, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

ye olde knuckleball strikes again

joe niekro taught it to her – cool.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty sure i shouldn't take this but i want to see what VEB thinks

Carlos Zambrano for Stephen Drew straight-up….

i don’t think i should just on principle, but im not sure its good even if you analzye right….

for perspective, my pitching isn’t bad and i have JJ Hardy as my other shortstop

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

to clarify

i am getting Big Z in this trade

my pitchers are Beckett, Josh Johnson, Brett Anderson, Phil Hughes, Roy Oswalt…..

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i suppose you know big z is in the pen?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

according to bcb yes, but....

their sources are…questionable

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's definitely in the 'pen. Check MLB.com.

Whether he stays in the bullpen remains to be seen.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd do it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 21, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

really? even though he's a closer now?

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

oo wow...

so he’s worthless

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

he’s going to pitch the 8th inning for now – but that doesn’t mean he won’t go back to the rotation. I still wouldn’t trade for him, though. Lots of ifs involved.

by bmorgan on Apr 21, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

not to mention this guy has no leverage….. he picked him off waivers, so im assuming i could do the same soon

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

i think quite highly of stephen drew, and zambrano should probably be dropped in most leagues at this point. there are way too many good pitchers out there to own a guy pitching the 8th inning w/ an ERA above 7.

by bmorgan on Apr 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

stephen drew is the man

he represents potential, potential, potential…

and not Chris Young potential either

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 21, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

so al yellon thinks

if big z can become the closer, considering the value put on saves, that he will be worth his contract.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:05 PM EDT reply actions  

1 inning pitched (a few times a week) is JUST AS valuable than 6 every five days

simple

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't mind my grammar

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares if he's worth his contract?

That’s a sunk cost, you have to find a way to get the most wins out of him.

Z in relief is not doing that.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right that cracked me up

Saves aren’t valuable because they are actually valuable, they are valuable because people think they are valuable! The circular logic!

by vivaelpujols on Apr 21, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

you see the Tickle Me Elmo

is worth $200 dollars because that is what I paid for it

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

btw

my brother totally called that this was going to happen last night. he thinks he’s a visionary now!

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

depends

did he think it’s a good idea?

or does he have a Higher understanding of that organization?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 21, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

he actually was saying that they should do that

more for the reason he thinks that Big Z sucks now

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

is he a cub fan?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’ve probably said this a bunch of times, but we are both from the quad cities. there’s about half and half cubs and cards fans there, our dad liked both teams, so we kinda split the preferences heh.

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 21, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nathan and Rivera aren't worth $18m a year

I don’t see how Zambrano will be.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching the Phillies@Braves game on ESPN.

Polanco got HBP. Whoever is calling this game – rather than just say “Polanco grunted” – actually acted out the grunt. Twice.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

sutcliff or dave obrien?

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably O'Brien.

The PBP guy.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's dave, didn't he used to work for the Cardinals?

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have no clue.

But I would prefer to never hear him grunt again.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you thinking of Joel Meyers?

he is always the one I think of when I am not thinking of him, if that makes any sense

damn, I’d give good money if Meyers could replace Dan, and Eldred could replace AL

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid myers calls the Lakers now, he took over when chick hearn died

i don’t think KMOX even offered him the gig full time because he didn’t want to stop calling college football games for FSN. then the Lakers TV called & he jumped at the chance.

bob carpenter who works for the Nats also did Cards games & he would be perfect except KPLR screwed him & that’s why he went to DC.

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've got smotzie on peachtree

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys get PTV down in NOLA?

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

mlb.tv feed

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh gotcha

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is something i don't understand

i think i always get the home team’s feed, but last night i had the cards feed.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is is it funny to anyone else that Joe Morgan was a player

by the very standards he refuses to recognize as relevant? By SABR standards the guy was pure gold a .390 OBP over 22 seasons an .819 ops at 2B over the same period.

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

was an amazing player

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not his fault he's stupid.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 21, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'd be validating the WWL if we did that, so of course we can't go that far

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is insanely stupid

http://living.aol.com/morning-rush/final-words-today/79353672001?ncid=webmaildl7

This girl dies so someone creates a video taking apart her english essays looking for reasons for the suicide. Why this needs to be displayed to the public is beyond me.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 21, 2010 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Way to spread it!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about a an avatar change for tonights game?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

excellent

so many ways to be stealth

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

it can't really be a violation right?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i believe you are entitled to your identity

are there any good eel quotes to be used as a sig, or have they yet to be written?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a decent band called the Eels

they are bound to have a decent lyric or two

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

eels looks odd capitalized

like e. els?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ll does golf have to do with anything?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't they golf a lot in arizona?

a mention of e. els wouldn’t be that strange, would it?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Guys I Heard ErnieELS is going to be designing a course near Sedona!

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

todd zeile

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jennifer Beels

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don't even have to misspell it

once they read it, it’s trapped in their minds.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well it's spelled Beals.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, my point to tomcat

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

O I C

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

cody could let you use one of his IDs

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he's got a few in that trench coat

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

One named

Anguilla Anguilla perhaps?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would be funny to have a swarm of VEBers

complete with eel avatars et sigs but never mentioning the forbidden meme

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

very civil

and like TBender notes, an eel disguised as a prospect.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Google is your friend

Plymouth River Eels Baseball

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

our new farm club?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Further research…

“targeting a May 2007 launch…”

Yeah, notsomuch.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you ever noticed that

ClemsonGirl and CodyG are eerily similar?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i read eerily as eeliry

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought dan was the one getting back from Japan

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

horriday

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmmm eel sushi

Eel really is one of my favorite foods.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see it.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 21, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny, since you once made a similar comment

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I will never change it.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

haven't watched Its Always Sunny for the rules lately

but I don’t think the usage in your Avatar is approved

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets get that Jew!

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

no you can only use it as a descriptor

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 21, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

boy, you miss two games & suddenly you're lost around here

Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars

by gdm426 on Apr 21, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad news guys

Scott Bittle, ’09 4th rounder, is out for the year with shoulder surgery. Per Kary Booher of the Springfield News-Leader

"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"

by jacksonian on Apr 21, 2010 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Not too surprising

Luckily he’s a guy who could probably deal with losing a mph off his FB.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

No specifics as to what the injury is or what surgery is needed to repair it.

He was an injury risk at the time he was drafted, so this really isn’t that much of a surprise, as joker says above.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really can't wait for Strasburg

17/3 K/BB in 12.1 innings, 0 HRs and a 1.50 GB/FB.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 21, 2010 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

can't they call him up now without losing a year?

thought this was what the mets just did with davis.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

so he'd get arbitration a year early?

this would apply to davis then, right?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Holliday

with our highest UZR/150 heh

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

and matt kemp with the lowest uzr total in baseball.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 21, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a wizard!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

no. THIS is awesome.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/catcher-defense-in-war

SO AWESOME.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 21, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is awesome

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellllent.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

sort of answered two questions i've had

the infield shift, and how the hell uzr hated cuddyer so much when he was a pretty good right fielder. i remember someone giving me hell for ignoring the data in favor of the eye on that one…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cuddyer's recent UZR stats are still godawful...

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 21, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

haven't seen him play this year

but in the past he was pretty decent. that turf and rf sure didn’t help the numbers. i wouldn’t want to see luddy having to cut balls off on that turf either, but i think luddy is a pretty decent rf’er.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Francisco Liriano looks filthy again

just struck out the side to open the game tonight.

by bmorgan on Apr 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

God help the American League Central

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a good team

i picked them for the world series – of course, i’d never pick the yanks or bosox, so…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's just the Indians. Nothing to get excited about.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 21, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he dominated the Red Sox last time out

although I guess you could say the same thing about them right now

by bmorgan on Apr 21, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to point out:

He gave up a hit to Jhonny Peralta in April. he can’t be that good.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 21, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude needs to learn how to spell his name

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 21, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's spelled phonetically

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh

I hate game days when I have to wait til almost 9 PM for them to start. What am I supposed to do all evening?

by leefyg on Apr 21, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

i like where you're going with that

except i’m really hungover right now.

by leefyg on Apr 21, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You stopped drinking

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

22" monitor

And Prince Fielder fills it up .

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

That's a rec.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 21, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yikes

soto slides and pops up short of the bag at second. thrown out by bay on a ball yadi coasts into second on…well, maybe not coasts, exactly

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Godspeed in tonight's gamethreads, folks

I’ll be at the Yankees-A’s game in Oakland, rooting for the team that’s not the Yankees. Go Cards!

by mojowo11 on Apr 21, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

wow.

if you’re selling your soul to the a’s-yankees i sure as hell hope you’re going to some cardinals’ games this weekend.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 21, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey now

I’ll be at not one, not two, but three Cardinals games this weekend, thankyouverymuch.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

colby is talking on this cards classics thing

and I’m staring at the rodent on his nape…..

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Astros score a run without a hit

Bourn walks, steals second, goes to third on a flyout, and scores on a groundout by Berkman.

Whitey smiles.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

berkman is back - didn't know.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

how is fat elvis, anyway

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fat

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

fat and bad knees seem like a bad mix

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah really

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So uh

hey guyz.

Dude, we went fishing in Cabo.

by Wailord on Apr 21, 2010 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hi.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

hai!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey friend!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 21, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

pre-game begins

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

scorched earth on eels:

http://www.azsnakepit.com/2010/4/21/1435679/gameday-thread-15-4-21-vs-cardinals#storyjump

no reynolds tonite.

sounds like d’backs gonna give half a mil or so to mateo.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I supposed 500k isn't too bad.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cat speaks to Frankie.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm not sure where Frankie's other hand is.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's now talking about Motte getting "giddy"

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

"my old hand can only take so much"

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, Motte put him up to it. I'm still disturbed.

hunting and fishing advice abounds, ’course.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

stoned?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

His face is blue but not his arm.

Are they shining an LED flashlight in his face?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 21, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

did he take the label off the cap?

it’s all very suspicious.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

200 lbs Russian boar in Arkansas. in case you were wondering about Frankie's biggest kill.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cat and Cal continue their skit.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gamethread

Up

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 21, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

mets announcers arguing sandberg v. biggio

they agree to disagree

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 9:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Biggio

Every day that ends in y.

This really shouldn’t even be a close debate actually. I know B-Ref’s comps are just for fun, but all but one of Biggio’s comps are in the HOF. The only one who isn’t is Lou Whitaker……..who happens to be Ryne Sandberg’s top comp. Biggio was better defensively, had positional flexibility, and was as good an offensive player as Sandberg for a longer portion of his career.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops

I guess Alomar isn’t in yet either……soon enough he will be.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 21, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

From what I've heard of gyorko, seems he's quite likely to be off the board before we pick

I was slightly confused by this paragraph, though:

The people who like Gyorko are going to tell you about Dan Uggla. They’re going to tell you Gyorko is a thick-bodied middle infielder with good power potential and the ability to make it as an offense-first second baseman in the big leagues. They may pull out a couple Kevin Youkilis comparisons as well, as both hit from slightly odd-looking stances, feature excellent plate discipline, and have thick, unathletic builds. (Personally, I don’t like the Youk comps; Gyorko is nowhere near as big as Youkilis and won’t hit for that kind of power.)

It seems strange you don’t like the Youk comp due to Gyorko’s lack of his sort of power projection, but you don’t mind the Uggla comp? Uggla’s hit over 30 HR the last 3 years in the bigs, and slugged .484 for his career. Youk’s never hit over 27 (in an easier hitters’ park) and has slugged a near-identical .487. I realise Youk’s slugging has improved a little in recent years, so he’s maybe a little ahead of Uggla in that regard, but I’d say Uggla is more of a flat-out power hitter (.225 ISO), whereas Youk is a contact hitter with some pop (.196 ISO).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 6:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Where did I say I like the Uggla comp?

Nowhere did I say I agreed with comparing Gyorko to either one of them, as I don’t think he’ll ever possess that kind of power anywhere along the line. At least with Uggla there’s a bit of physical simiilarity, but I wouldn’t really compare him to either player. Hope that clears it up for you.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Apr 22, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paraphrasing slightly:
“The people who like Gyorko are going to tell you about Dan Uggla. [….]
Personally, I […] like the […] comps….
[Felonius_Monk] is a thick-bodied [hottie] with good […] potential and the ability to make it as an [elite blogger] in the big leagues. "

Don’t know about you, but to me it looks like it’s right there, in black and white.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 22, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

I have been roundly defeated.

Sir, you are a true and worthy opponent.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Apr 22, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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