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Adam Wainwright Day

If you were wondering, Adam Wainwright's career batting line now looks like this: 226 at-bats, 13 doubles, one triple, five home runs, eight walks, .243/.268/.376. It's not a lot, but considering the relentlessness with which Tony La Russa used to put Craig Paquette into the everyday lineup it's not a bad deal to get an extra copy of him batting ninth on days when the 1-or-1A starter is scheduled to pitch.

It might not instill a lot of confidence to have that spare Paquette become a crucial cog in the lineup the day after the Cardinals struggled against every pitcher but one in the Mets' staff, but regardless of the team's perceived insistence on them I'm claiming the two home runs as evidence of a team that can hit and will hit, once line drives stop following those worn paths to the infielders. 

But the big news: Wainwright, Wainwright, Wainwright, all over the place. Saving the bullpen! Getting on base! Gently stretching Yadier Molina's aching knees between innings! His 22 strikeouts against five walks are the story of his season to this point—a remarkable economy of pitches that's held up even as his strikeout rate lurches toward that batter-an-inning mark. His peripherals are now better than they were as a reliever, and in his ability to put teams away and keep it under three hours' worth of fuss he is positively Carpenterian by now. I figured he'd be good—though not this good—but who knew he'd be so aesthetically pleasing, too? 

I've got to run early today—there's packing to do. But it was heartening, finally, to see Colby Rasmus continue to turn himself into a supercharged version of 2001 Mark McGwire—he's now hitting .188/.366/.500. With gold glove defense!

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I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 6:50 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

ok, i'll rec it

but i want a raise – 30 chairs/hr.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh you amuse me jester

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

just doing my job

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

but shouldn't HE give that to YOU?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm giving adam the day off.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i gotta tell you

i don’t get it
s.o. please enlighten me

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wainwright is a wagonmaker

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's

some wiki for you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You must have wondered for awhile

why we refer to Wainwright as Wagonmaker on occasion, yes?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently not smart enough to wonder

i just assume everything on veb is true

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

why wouldn't ya?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's a rec

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yesterday's start truly was a thing of beauty

I think (without getting too “intangible” here) that was the sort of start that is really even MORE valuable than the stat line – an exhausted team, a bullpen that pitched the best part of a dozen innings the night before and desperately in need of rest, and the deciding game of a 3-game series. We desperately needed the good Waino to turn up, get a win, and take the heat off the bullpen and, with the exception of the three runs (which came off bloops, seeing-eye singles and errors mostly) he shut the Mets down and gave us exactly what we needed.

I think the boxscore from that performance should be in the baseball dictionary under the heading “putting the team on your back”. He really carried us to that win last night. Inspiring stuff.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 7:11 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

HE INTANGIBLED!

GET HIM!

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wainer +1000000000000

nails, balls, nasty, gamer, terminator…

thing o beauty

On another note, was anyone else really really really surprised to Yadi behind the plate (TLR being TLR aside)?

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 8:19 AM EDT reply actions  

it's hard to catch 7 innings let alone 29 in a day and a half.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Apr 19, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, right?

whatsa guy gotta do to get a day off around here?

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ding ding ding

We have a winner

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem. Of course, what I mean is

I have no doubt that a healthy Jason LaRue would have caught that game.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

The emergency catcher

I understand that Mr. Anderson isn’t THE back-up catcher, but how bad can he be? I mean really now, if the everyday catcher goes 20 (20!) I think it is more than reasonable, and perhaps even a really good idea, to give him a slab of pine the next day. If the back-up, ad hoc as he may be, is basically at emergency catcher status, why even bother having him there?

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was very strange

Wonder how MO feels about it

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

he probably feels all icky

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's the reasoning, mind you anderson

Has started a game. I don’t like the “personal catcher” stuff, but Yadi and Adam are BFF’s which is probably why he went. Tony won’t step in the way of bromance

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anderson started a game?

When did that happen?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

never.....

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I must have misunderstood the comment then

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

no you heard it right

im pretty sure he’s wrong….
and im pretty sure you agree with me cause you were shocked to hear this

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't hear anything

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

technicalities....

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank god

i was afraid it was technical difficulties

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

your on a roll

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's all the poppy

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

poppy?

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

helluva drug

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeh he's never started

on his page, he’s 0-2 in his career

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's only been in the bigs a week

so, was there any doubt?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i felt i needed to back up a radical claim

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

no you heard it right

im pretty sure he’s wrong….
and im pretty sure you agree with me cause you were shocked to hear this

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa, delayed double-post?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the longest

SBN’d in history. Intriguing.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless he actually...

but you are probably right.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

something is messing up for me....

SBN is weird right now

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO, the Diambondbacks aren't that good

at least when you say “toughest team” it sounds like they’ll be a playofff team when i’d put them somewhere in the same ranks as milwaukee and cincinnati

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, according to TLR

last night, it was Yadi’s decision. During one of those mid-game between inning interviews, they asked TLR about Yadi catching 20 innings AND getting the start. Tony said something about how Yadi came to the park Sunday, Tony asked him how he felt, and Yadi said he felt great and wanted the start.

So that’s that anyway. Now, should the manager take the decision out of his hands on the heels of a 20-inning performance? I’d say yes.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

roger that

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, a guy like Yadi

of course he’s going to want to play. most pro athletes are real competitive and have an invincibility thing psychologically speaking. Isn’t that one of the reasons they have managers? To manage. Isn’t that why managers and FO’s get pissed off when a player hides an injury.

I don’t know, I’m probably making too much of this. For all of his TLRness I actually really like TLR. I’ll go home now.

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

HA!

“For all of his TLRness I actually really like TLR.”

I think a lot of folks share that sentiment.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do agree

That “my player wanted to play, so I let him play” coming from the manager is a really lame excuse. If a starting pitcher’s arm is literally hanging by a few sinewy threads after throwing five hundred pitches in only 5 innings, and he has also received several bullet wounds to the abdomen from a crazy stalker in the stands, he will tell his manager, “keep me in, skip, I’m good to go,” and then feebly attempt to toss some warm ups with his marionette-like pseudo-arm. This does not mean that letting him play is the right decision.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

That guy sounds good to go

Would be interesting to see him pitch.

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was talking about Mulder

that was a hypothetical?

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that where we differ

in that example I leave him in there. That’s good TV. Any decent manager with a sense of theater will have no problem on that one. Give’em the heater Rickey.

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

naw, in that circumstance, you make

Him convert to being a position player and tell him to bring the bat he made from the tree that got struck by lightning with him, because it’s probably special.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

aye!

How often does A.D.A.M. say he wants the complete game but tlr comes out to say something alomg the lines of… “you’ll thank me in October when you have the extra innings in your arm”

Well in that case…. TLR I WANT THE EXTRA INNINGS IN YADI’S knees come October.

Plus I’d really like to see Agent X get more than a 15th inning at bat out of this call-up.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 19, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, you're probably making too much of this....

1 – if the player says he’s completely fine, why make a big deal about it? This isn’t an issue of injury, it’s an issue of whether he’s tired or not.

2 – There wasn’t a compressed timeframe for recovery. The Sat. game ended at about the time a regualr night game would’ve ended and the following game was also a night game. This wasn’t a day game after a night game scenario.

3. It was primarily a zero-zero game with very minimal baserunners by the Mets. Most of the game’s time had to be when the Cards were hitting. There weren’t many long innings, so counting by innings is not as indicative of “caycher fatigue” as tracking the amount of time Yadi was catching. And even then, the guy has been squatting his whole life and his frame is built to do it.

This whole thing is pretty much a non-issue.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't find it odd

that a manager who prides himself on keeping players “fresh” during the season started a catcher who just caught 20 innings the day before? Especially after double-switching the team’s best player out of the game because of “illness”? That doesn’t seem like a contradiction to you? It sure does to me.

If Jason LaRue had been available, you honestly believe that he doesn’t start Sunday night?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you

But I can’t let you get away with calling Holliday “the team’s best player”! For shame!

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I chose to ignore the blatant and outright

heresy

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heheh

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finding it "odd" isn't the issue people are raising....

Rather, people are half-assedly suggesting TLR was risking injury to Yadi just because he caught extra innings the night before. I listed reasons why it wasn’t as big of a deal as people are making it out to be, I think those reasons are valid, and no one has shown why they wouldn’t be.

In contrast, comparing the situation with Yadi to other situations, like Rolen’s, or others where the issue was “injury,” as opposed to simple “fatigue,” is a non-sequitur.

To the point about Holliday, I think TLR double-switched as much for tactical reasons as because of Holliday’s sickness. He was double-switching into the last spot in the order, had an available LF in Craig, and Holliday wasn’t looking good at the plate (not that anyone really was). Plus, Holliday had recently missed a game because of illness and he may still be ill for all I know. As for Yadi, he wasn’t sick, and apparently told TLR he wasn’t tired either. So, it’s not really a good comparison.

Also, I don’t think it was a good decision to bench Holliday on those grounds, so why would I think it would necessarily be a good decision to bench Molina? Would I want TLR to repeatedly make bad decisions just because it seems like it’d be consistent with his other decisions? Obviously not. (And I don’t think the situations are analogous, so for me it’s moot point anyway)

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That isn't at all what Scarecrow was saying.

He’s stating that TLR using Yadi’s “I feel great, I want to start” statement as the reason to play him isn’t very smart because EVERY player is going to say that, even if they showed up with both legs amputated.

I would venture to say that Wainwright and Carp want to finish every game they start. Yet they rarely get complete games. I’m guessing that when Tony goes out there in the middle of the seventh, they aren’t saying “Pull me coach, I’m finished”. Tony does what he thinks is best of the ballclub over the course of the season, knowing that overextending those pitchers isn’t going to be good long term. It also fits that putting Yadi, the best catcher with no serviceable replacement anywhere in the organization, out to start a game after catching 20 innings (over TWO games worth in a single night) the previous day is putting him at risk for an injury and simply isn’t necessary. You start Anderson for one game. It’s ludicrous to say that Yadi over Anderson gives you a better chance to win than throwing 3 position player pitched innings on Saturday night because you didn’t want to risk throwing Lohse on his off day.

It’s not the sake of being consistent that’s the point here. It’s that a manager’s decisions shouldn’t be cowtowed by the feelings of a player, when you know what the answer to that question is going to be 99.9% of the time. Yadi isn’t going to sit unless you MAKE HIM SIT. Regardless of how he feels about it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I wasn't responding directly to Scarecrow's point on that...

so there you go.

Again though, a player should have far less input on the question of whether he should play despite injury, than whether he should play because he might be fatigued. (and everyone is just assuming that Yadi was actually fatigued and/or that he was lying when he said he wasn’t – but there’s no evidence of this.)

And “catchers squatting for more innings” vs. “starting pitchers throwing more innings” is a pretty bad comparison vis a vis injury risks to said players. Not to mention, usually when a pitcher is getting pulled in the 7th, it’s because of performance, perhaps in relation to being tired. There was no issue with performance w/r/t to Yadi’s situation.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

So a guy that just played 20 innings squatting behind a plate
  1. Isn’t at risk of getting hurt because of fatigue.
  2. is better than another option who might be less tired.
  3. Is always going to tell the truth about being tired when he’s a gamer that wouldn’t ever sit down if you didn’t make him.

Sorry, WMT, your point’s have even more speculation involved the the original points in the post. TLR frequently rests players for no other reason than to rest players. There’s no viable reason for ever putting Albert on the bench except to give him an occasional “day off”. So it doesn’t make sense not to rest a guy that you have no good replacement for after he just caught 20 innings the day before. There just isn’t.

And "catchers squatting for more innings" vs. "starting pitchers throwing more innings" is a pretty bad comparison vis a vis injury risks to said players.

Really? There’s a reason why catchers generally have the shortest productive careers of any baseball player: the position takes a tremendous toll on your body. We’re not even having this discussion if it’s not that catching position, because no other position is as hard on you as the catching position is.

In fact, I think Lohse throwing 2 innings is probably less harmful to him as playing Yadi 29 innings in two days. Lohse could have then skipped his throw day on Sunday and been right on track. The likelihood of him getting hurt throwing two innings on Saturday is probably less than him getting hurt playing LF on Saturday.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

we just diagree then

the risk to catchers is long-term deterioration, while the risk to pitchers is catastrophic injuiry. They’re just not that comparable. And again, injury and fatigue are not necessarily related here. There’s just no evidence here that catching 11 more (usually, short) innings and having a full day’s recovery time, made Yadi more fatigued for the next game, much less that he was more likely to get injured.

And whether or not Lohse would be at greater risk of injury had he doen X or Y or whatever isn’t relevant to any of my points.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the bigger point. . .

is that TLR is probably outright lying about why Yadi caught Sunday rather than Saturday.

It’s probably better than the real answer, which is “I’m trying to show Mo up for bringing rookie catcher up when I wanted Bat Gagnozzi”

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really think this?

Which seems more likely to you just based on logic and what we currently know:

1. TLR is outright lying and trying to get back at Mo for forcing him to take a far superior hitting catcher over his “pet.”

2. TLR played Yadi because Yadi is one the best catchers in the league and gives the team the best chance to win. Once Yadi said he wasn’t fatigued (which would be the only reason he wouldn’t play), and his performance didn’t indicate he was actually fatigued, TLR put him the lineup.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing to do with the conspiracy theory

but not using anderson to pinch-hit still boggles the mind. as manuel intimated, he’d be fired for that (of course he’s on a short leash and tony is leashless – as it should be, imo).

my only concern with yadi not getting the day off was the oblique. if it is no longer an issue, no problem. i think if last night was lohse’s turn in the rotation rather than waino, anderson might well have caught.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

hasn't TLR always been skittish about using his backup catcher?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 19, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but. . .

in that instance, Anderson has to stay in the game, playing LF or something, so it’s not like he’s lost in the event that Yadi gets hurt.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 19, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

in the normal course of the game

all managers are, and understandably so. this was no ordinary situation in that we shouldn’t have been looking ahead to later innings. plus, he could’ve left anderson in the game, say like maybe left-field, so he would still be able to serve as the backup if yadi got nicked.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forget it

If you don’t think that a catcher could be seriously hurt because he was playing fatigued then we’re never going to agree. You’re completely wrong, but that’s fine.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the abstract...

is a player more likely to be injured if he’s fatigued? Sure, I guess. But let’s not pervert the question by assuming that all issues of fatigue are the same or are likely to cause the same types of injury (e.g. like comparing the risk of injury to a starting pitcher from throwing too many pitches to a catcher from squatting some extra innings)

The point is that it’s just speculation that Yadi was actually fatigued – indeed, the evidence is otherwise (he maintained his high-level of performance, he said he wasn’t fatigued, etc.) Moreover, I gave you even more evidence why he wouldn’t have been fatigued (and therefore there’d have been no reason to start Anderson) – i.e., standard recovery time, very short innings w/ few base runners.

In sum, this whole Yadi issue is really not that big of a deal.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was Wainwright's choice

If your starter says “I feel way more comfortable with Yadi behind the plate than this guy who has never caught me in a game,” you put Yadi in. The only way you don’t put him in is if you can get Yadi to admit he’s tired. And he won’t. If LaRue is not on the DL, he starts. But you have to make your starting pitcher, your ace, happy and comfortable.

by Sukafish on Apr 19, 2010 4:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

the problem is

that Tony used the exact OPPOSITE logic when justifying his removal of Holliday from the 20 inning game. Holliday clearly wanted to remain in the game but Tony used his “I’m the manager and I know best” logic to remove Matt from the game. Personally, I think that was the correct decision. He also should’ve realized that Yadi could use a day off as well and placed Anderson in the lineup. Perhaps if we’d have won Saturday’s marathon, he would have.

by chuckb on Apr 19, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good point.

Still, we all know how good Yadi is at stealing strikes. Would Waino’s start have been so pretty without Yadi behind the plate? I say it would’ve been close, but not as good.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

that reminds me

there was an AWESOME post about catcher framing at btb a few weeks ago. It’s really made me rethink my opinion on catcher defense. Basically, across two years it reckoned Yadi was worth something ridiculous like an extra 5-6 wins compared to average because of his ability to get extra called strikes (some of it likely noise, but the suggestion is that he’s well above average).

I think Ryan Doumit was about the worst regular – he was losing like 5 wins across a whole season with his framing/catching ability. Like I say, much of the variation will be noise, park effects and sampling error, but the data was fairly persuasive. Looks like it’s highly likely that catching/framing is a lot more important than we (or at least I!) thought.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi

Best catcher in the biz, there is no doubt…he does it all, framing, defense, pick-offs, throwing runners out…

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, yeah

I think you may very well be right. And it does possibly lend some credence to the org’s distaste with Anderson and the bizarre Gags man-crush. May have some good proprietary info (or just scouting) from their respective careers that suggests one is a much more competent game-caller/framer/catcher, regardless of their disparate hitting and throwing abilities.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

There has to be something to them liking Gagz more than Anderson.

It can’t be Matt’s ability to shut down the running game, and he doesn’t look that great defensively, so he must be good at something. Right?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe his uncle Tom had some compromising pictures of Fredbird that he passed down?

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

My understanding is that they involve the Phanatic, a t-shirt gun and a bouncy castle.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

no kidding

now even more than before
i hope there’s choking

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHA

rec’d!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, part of the mitigating circumstances was the weather

It was bloody cold all series long.
High winds and low temperatures = bad for cold/flu/fever.
Lower temperatures (which I did hear Tony cite) = longer stints for tired muscles.

It’s precisely the same logic.

oh, hi chuck!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

very ture holliday wanted to stay in the game...

I was there and granted I was in the upper deck behind home plate (Don’t ask me why I waited until the 15th inning to move down to 10 rows behind home), but I could clearly see a very perplexed Holliday tap his chest and say “me?” As Craig was trotting out there. And his body language on the way back in said it all.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 19, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Going for the series win

I think Yadi would have gotten the evening off if the cards had won on Saturday.

by baked mcbride on Apr 19, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

good pt

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

25 Innings vs. Mets in 1974

I was at this game – Ken Reitz hit a game tying HR in 9th. Cards win in 25th when Mets tried to pick McBride off 1st and he went all the way around to score game winning run

by D4 on Apr 19, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Yadi played last night

simply because Waino was pitching. He has that great curve ball and I don’t think Tony was comfortable with Anderson catching Waino. I expect Anderson will get the start tonight.

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're right on point 1

and I hope you’re right on point 2.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

should be anderson tonite vs. lopez

haren pitching tomorrow night so tony probably doesn’t start him then, and pretty sure yadi will catch garcia.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

roger

isn’t that what mangers are for? players are always ready to go. Paging Scott Rolen….

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

we scalded the ball a few times last night to no avail

with RISP, i remember colby lining out to left, schu lining out to second, and freese lining out to short(with enough force to actually knock reyes over)…if those balls ever start finding holes, watch out

as i expected…our team BABIP is .272, which is 8th lowest in the league(the white sox are sporting a .228)

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 19, 2010 8:48 AM EDT reply actions  

yeah, not worrying yet

those will start finding holes (fingers crossed) sooner or later

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

we’re scoring runs and taking good at-bats, for the most part. Our second best hitter has been ill. Our pitching looks excellent, bullpen excluded. It’s been a great start to the year.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

bullpen has look decently enough

i mean i have low standards…. wasn’t expecting much from this group

they as far as I know haven’t given up a lead yet (they did give up to tie games though)

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bullpen really isn't very good

I’d be pretty surprised if you can name (and convince me you’re right) 5 worse bullpens in the major leagues.

Franklin’s looked borderline dreadful, Motte’s been a bit shaky and I haven’t been terribly impressed with KMac (although I think he might be the best of the righties so far). At least the lefties have been good and Hawk’s looked OK in his outings thus far.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too damn easy

Diamondbacks — Qualls has started horribly and they don’t have anyone else that’s any good.
Nationals — Um, this shouldn’t even require an explanation.
Orioles — Not one league average reliever in their bullpen, and their closer blew 6 of 16 chances in 2009.
Cubs — Marmol is either really good or really bad. The rest of their bullpen, save Marshall, is just really bad.
Indians — Sure, Wood is hurt. If he’s healthy, which he may not be all season, they have 1 pitcher who has a better than league average xFIP for his career. That pitcher? Kerry Wood.

There’s probably at least a couple of other teams you could put up here too. The Brewers pen and the Astros pen are really nothing special. Hoffman might be done, and the ‘Stros rely on Matt Lindstrom (horrible 2009 in Florida) and Brandon Lyon (traditional stats made him look great last year, rate stats hate him). They don’t really have anyone else in their pen either.

I think we’re too hard on our bullpen sometimes. If they don’t walk a lot of people (currently 3.58 BB/9, good for 10th in MLB) and don’t allow a lot of home runs (currently 0.48 HR/9, tied for 5th in MLB), they should be ok. Sure , it would be nice to have a closer that misses bats, especially when we get into the playoffs. But we could have 2008 Izzy and 2008 Franklin back there, which would be much worse than what we have now. At least this bullpen is really hard on lefties, and last I checked, a number of contenders have tough left handed hitters in the middle of their lineups. I think that bodes well for us.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 20, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say the Astros are definitely worse than ours

I’d probably have them as the worst in baseball, actually.

I am assuming all bullpens are healthy. Sorry, should’ve been more specific. I guess that probably puts the Indians ahead of us, though I agree that without Wood it’s very close (and arguably we’re better, and you could argue Wood wasn’t too good last year). Perez and Todd, despite their various warts, are two guys who I think would be at the front end of our pen if they were still here (yes, I know Perez doesn’t seem to be coming on at all, but his career FIP is still better than guys like Motte and Boggs and I feel there’s more chance of him figuring it out this year than, say, Motte). Joe Smith is, I feel, pretty under-rated; I think he’s as good as any righty in our pen. I agree we’re stronger from the left-hand side, but, overall, with a healthy Wood I give them the slight advantage on paper.

The Orioles have Gonzalez who, despite sucking so far this year is better than anyone we have (3.29 career FIP, albeit injury prone). Will Ohman is as good as any of our lefties, Jason Berken is probably as good as any of our lesser righties (Boggs etc), Jim Johnson is basically Kyle McClellan, and Cla Meredith is as good as any arm in our pen, and especially good against righties (better than any of our guys on that front). I should point out that, with the exception of the lefty specialists, we probably don’t have a league average reliever in our pen either (yeah, I know it depends on how you determine that), but I’d rather have their guys than ours. But I agree that it’s very close.

The Cubs, I think I’ll give you that one. With Guzman getting hurt they really don’t have anything much behind Marmol, and his 2009 has to be a concern for them. They’re good on the left, though – I actually think I like their two lefties better than ours, due to Marshall’s ability to pitch multiple innings and get righties out. Their righty set-up situation is pretty ugly. I don’t think they’re far behind us, and if Marmol rediscovers his pre-2009 form, I think he alone makes them better, and (if you’re keen on using 2010 data, which it seems you are on Hoffman & Qualls) he’s been absolutely lights-out good this year.

As for the D’Backs – you’re writing off Chad Qualls after 5 innings? He has literally been one of the top ten relievers in baseball for the last two years IMO, and I think he’s streets ahead of anyone we’ve got. I think it’s too early to call time on his no-walking, groundballing excellence. I agree the rest aren’t anything special, and they’re weak on the left side, but Rosales, Gutierrez and Heilmann are all capable enough, in comparison to our righties. I think, kinda like a few of the other teams you mentioned, simply having ONE good reliever (Qualls) along with a bunch of averagey ones, when all we have is pretty average ones, puts the D’Backs a nose ahead.

As for the poor old Natinals, yeah, I think I’ve got to agree there. If Capps makes some sort of comeback they’re probably similar to us but really their backup arms are so poor, I think we’re in a much stronger position overall.

I think the Brewers pen is better than ours, again, I think you’re attaching too much importance to a lucky/one-in-a-hundred swing from Nick Stavinoha and a couple of dingers from the two best right-handed hitters in his division (AP and Lego). Hoffman’s been good enough to still deserve the benefit of the doubt, and I think Hawkins and Coffey and a couple of other guys they have are a competent supporting cast. They HAVE spent way too much cash on the pen, though, and I think we’re getting more bang for our buck.

You could definitely have made a case for the Marlins. Their closer (Nunez) had a 5+ FIP last year and a lengthy career of relative mediocrity, and I can’t see an average arm behind him (although there are a couple of young guys with some promise).

So, in summary, I think I’d (personally, but I can see the argument either way) give the D’Backs, O’s and Indians the benefit of the doubt. In my view, the Nationals, Astros, Marlins and now maybe (depending on my mood) the Cubs are worse than us, in my eyes.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Qualls has been good

But he wasn’t even that much better than Franklin was last year. He relies on not walking people and getting weakly hit ground balls. If you’re going to rip our bullpen for having Franklin as a closer because he doesn’t miss bats, then I find it hard to show such praise for Chad Qualls, who essentially does that same things that Franklin did last year, he’s just done it for a longer portion of his career.

You make good cases for the O’s and Indians, but as they say in Missouri, SHOW ME. They don’t have anyone who’s really done much of anything, which resembles the Cardinal bullpen for the most part. I just think that our lefties plus McClellan outweigh just about anything that they have. If we’re bringing up SSS, Hawksworth has been about as good as anyone in their bullpen. Perez would probably have dumped Hawk to AAA if he was here, and I think he has more potential than anyone in our pen, but he’s struggles to be consistent, and you could make the case that McClellan is more effective at this point in time.

FWIW, my 2 fantasy baseball closers are Nunez and Perez. Fuck. Me. lol

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 20, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think most of these could go either way.

I think Qualls is still way better than Franklin, though, even last year (which was Franklin’s best, pretty much, and which no-one here expects him to repeat):

Qualls:
7.8 K/9, 1.2 BB/9, 6.43 K:BB ratio, 57% GB%

Franklin:
6.5 K/9, 3.5BB/9, 1.83 K:BB ratio, 46% GB%

Franklin just put up a much more fortunate HR/FB rate, in an easier pitcher’s park.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

And my condolences on Nunez

I think he may very well get shelled this year :-). FWIW I had him last season and rode him to a pretty lucky 20-odd saves…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

NCAYFTFLY

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 20, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a bit misleading.

We’ve hit a lot of homers as a team, and our ISO is among the league leaders as is our HR/FB.

I do think we’re getting a bit unlucky at times, but we’ve also seen some awful strikeouts in situations that call for a ball in play. That said, we’re leaving a lot of guys on base…..point being: we’re getting guys on base, so this team is bound to score runs if they continue to reach base.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

it would be nice to see a game

where Luddy – Pujols – Holliday – Rasmus are all on. Seems like its always just 1 or 2 of them doing the heavy lifting. If they ever all get hot at the same time, watch out.

by mattyp on Apr 19, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be lovely

One of the drawbacks to TLR trying to get playing time for Mather and Craig is that Luddy and Raz are not in there everyday. Maybe it will be better just to stay with Luddy and Raz for a while and just find PAs for Mather and Craig at the end of games that we are leading in. Then again, Luddy and Raz are really good on D.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 19, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect inning
  1. Skippy gets hit by a pitch because he’s gritty
  2. Luddy doubles, Skip doesn’t score because he’s too busy sliding into third headfirst
  3. Albert is intentionally walked
  4. Holliday clears the bases with a double
  5. Rasmus hits a very smooth home run

At that point, I assume the Nationals would probably have to consider taking Jason Marquis out of the game.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Milwaukee...

And they let him do this yesterday…

0 IP, 7 ER, 4 H, 1 BB, 2 HBP

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

moar perfection

6. Boog and Waino hugging each other jumping up and down in the dugout
7. close-up of Carp

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is carp doing?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thinking about luggage

Waiting

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Nooo.... we waaaiitt"

Sorry, Metalocalypse flashback.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

it matters not

but undressing would be quite excellent
/note to self – never say stuff like that out loud again

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on now...

6. Freese doubles off the wall
7. Molina Doubles off the wall swapping spots with Freese
8. Boog slaps a single the other way, putting runners at the corners
9. Wainwright triples
10. Skip lays down the suicide squeeze, is safe at first becuase Pudge couldn’t get out of the crouch to beat the slide.
11. Ludwick singles
12. Albert is walked and clearly seen calling marquis a little bitch
13. Holliday Jacks his second granny of the inning off of Marquis, this ball drills the coca cola party pavilion’s logo in dead center field. Shattering an “O” and spawning a most ridiculous VEB meme / office space reference all in the same instance.

at which point Marquis gives up and exits stage left.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 20, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget Waino lining out to center

The dude is awesome. Carp may still be the better pitcher, but the lineup has no holes when Waino pitches.

by Sukafish on Apr 19, 2010 4:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

just made it in

from watching the saturday game (don’t ask). what shold I do? only vodka in the fridge an no juice.

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

my gawd!

that’s a plan. but i’m scotch-irsh. wrong drink, huh?

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

you r right sir

just found a lime. I’m set.

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just to point out...

Scots like their vodka

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

note: it's equivalent, not actual

…but, yea, I’d go with that. GO CARDS! GO TARPIN AND FLAG!

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

My daughter calls it "true Russian"

and includes an accent, etc. (‘course she better be leaving out the Vodka since she’s underage (haha, college kids))

by ArkansasTravs on Apr 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you the dude?

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 19, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby speak. . . whut?

“Seeing the ball good but the swing wasn’t feeling very good,” said Rasmus. “It was just one of those times. I couldn’t anything going. I don’t like going through slumps.”

yahoooooo!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 19, 2010 9:12 AM EDT reply actions  

ha

I think my head just exploded.

It’s way too early for Colby speak.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hotwright

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

we're all glad you feel that way

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

hotolas hotinoha?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hotaury Hotarti Hotzana

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh Mehinoha

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Well-done.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

/luggaged

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hotbot Hotting Hoteague?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

/hotpunch

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hot-ouch.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

/future glossary bookmark

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

so Joe, it's like wainwright is really batting .343, right?

JM: no he’s not. he’s batting .243. I said it was like he was a .300 hitter.

you said a .200 hitting pitcher was like a regular hitting .300, so shouldn’t we just add .100 to every pitcher’s avg?

JM: no. I said it was LIKE he was a .300 hitter. there’s a big difference between a .300 hitter and a .343 hitter.

(starts drinking)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 19, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I loved that exchange

Typically their stuff annoys me, but I found that exchange dim-witted beyond belief, much to my enjoyment

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

my hope

is that, by season’s end, there are reports of Orel and Morgan having a physical altercation. With Orel breaking Morgan’s hip after body slamming him and successfully performing an elbow drop from a chair in the booth. all while, crap, can’t think of the fat dude’s name…all while the “fat dude” calls the play-by-play of the altercation.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

we were hoping for defenestration

but only when the fans beneath the booth were safely out of the way

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just realized this wouldn't work

Hershisher is too nice.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you heard their tiffs?

Orel’s close, man. he’s close.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's also sitting very close

it’s a tiny tiny booth
no room for a full swing slap to start the luggaging going

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suggest that Orel take up Grace jujitsu

to negate the lack of space.

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Apr 19, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't get the nickname "Bulldog"

from being nice

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

word

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about "Snowflake"

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heyman?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

jon miller

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really like Orel as a pitching color guy

And I’ve always enjoyed Miller as the play by play guy

I’ve never enjoyed Joe Morgan

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 19, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Those two seem fine to me, but Miller really ruins it. The fact that Jon and Orel have to chat with him seems to bring it down to his level.

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

You mean morgan

And yeah except for Miller being worse with names than Harry Carey your spot on

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 9:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oliver Pear-ezz

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaaaaahhhh

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've learned

a lot of people say that.

actually pronouncing FIP, BABIP, etc

“buh-bip”? no thank you

the only things i actually pronounce like words instead of spelling the acronym would be WAR and WHIP

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I use the letters for FIP

but bah-bip just rolls off the tongue…

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

it does not, sir!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have never actually said any of these things out loud...

but I say “Fip” and not “F-I-P”, “War” (but I pronounce it more “wargh” than “war, what is it good for” – go figure) and “whip”, FWIW. I’m not sure about “BABIP”. I think I’d just say the words, rather than the acronym. I’m definitely an “Oh-Pee-Ess” guy though.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 3:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I say "fip" and "baa-bip" and "wahr"

But OPS? I feel like that’s fairly established as “O-P-S.” Just like you’d never say “C-H-O-N-E,” you’d say “chone” (but, in my opinion, never “sean”).

Let’s argue about this, because it’s VERY VERY IMPORTANT.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i say bay-bip. am i the only one?

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"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

chicago roots?

how are you not a cubs fan? i thought people inherited the cubs (god bless their poor souls) if they lived in CHI

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by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

where do you think chitown is?

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by cardball on Apr 20, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of being bad with names...

Harry CarAy*

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 19, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh. . .

like Bobby Costas, Miller long ago jumped the shark IMHO.

Too smarmy.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 19, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Yellow M&M

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nowadays,

KenTremendous is the closest you’ll get. That and OldHossRadbourn.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to Fake Mike Shannon?

:( RIP

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know!

I’ve missed him.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

A sad day, indeed.

I didn’t really realize his absence until yesterday…It’s been over a month!

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I misss

fire joe morgan. when is espn going towake up? oh, right, it’s espn

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

+ infiniti

VEB, you’re awesome and all, but FJM had one of the best websites of all time….OF ALL TIME!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't remember if it was the ESPN broadcast or the Fox one, but

didn’t one of those guys also deliver the gem “there’s a fine line between a good breaking ball and a better breaking ball”?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was last night

And it was none other than . . . Joe Morgan!

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Huh

For some reason I was thinking it was Hershiser.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was Morgan

Something to the effect of “when pitcher’s throw their BEST breaking ball they have a greater chance of hanging it” or something like that.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think what he was getting at

is that the risk is greater. Kinda like if your are trying to throw your fastest fast ball you have a great risk of not being able to locate it.

by Evilfrog on Apr 19, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it still defies logic

to say that throwing a “half-ass” curve leads to less chance of hanging it. Any time you throw a breaking ball you have a chance of hanging it. It doesn’t make sense to say that he has MORE of a chance of doing that by not attempting to throw his best curveball all the time. In fact, I’d say that if he’s half-assing it up there, there’s a much greater chance of hanging it over the middle of the plate that there is otherwise.

FWIW, fastballs and curves are different. You can change speeds with your fastball by positioning it in your hand a bit differently. It’s hard to do that with a curveball — you need the same grip and release point to get the proper rotation.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Morgan is an asshat.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only explanation I can think of

is that if you are throwing your best curveball, you’re much more likely to throw more of it, thereby increasing your chances to throw it in the wrong place (ie up in the zone).

But this still sounds like BS to me

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he was talking about "overthrowing the curveball"

then I would somewhat agree. I think pitchers do overthrow their breaking balls, and it does tend to hang, because a certain velocity is needed to get the curve to bite and break properly — an overthrown ball is going to tend to slurve and look more like a hung slider. This is just my recollection from catching for 15 years in high school and senior leagues.

However, it sounded like he was saying that a pitcher has a “good” curve and a “best” curve and that by trying to throw your best pitch you have a greater chance of hanging it. I just don’t see how that’s empirically or logically true.

But then I’m basing a Joe Morgan comment on “logic”, which is an epic fail to begin with.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

When in doubt Joe Morgan is wrong

When not in doubt Joe Morgan is probably still wrong.

 Also u can overthrow a breaking ball and the force of over throwing can take away from the arm motion or snap of the wrist but throwing ur best breaking ball hass less of a chance to hang. As long as u use the same arm motion throwing it harder causes it to break more.

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 12:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed

I just think that when pitchers “overthrow” they get out of their normal arm slot and motion and end up getting less snap on the ball, which causes it to hang. This, coupled with the faster velocity also doesn’t screw up the hitter’s timing as much, causing him to have a greater chance of hitting the ball.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you've got it there

I think he was trying (poorly) to describe an overthrown curve either by speed or the pitcher trying to give it that extra rpm to make it break more.

by ArkansasTravs on Apr 19, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, he didn't say "best breaking ball" he said "better breaking ball"

There’s a fine line between a broadcaster being more consistent and being most consistent.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So there's a big difference between .343 and .300

but NOT a difference at all between .243 and .300, when that’s actually a BIGGER DIFFERENCE by a factor of 14 points.

It’s exchanges like this that make me question the existence of intelligent life.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you equate Joe Morgan

with “the existence of intelligent life”?

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not

The issue i have is why anyone would even bother having that argument with him. He’s not going to admit he’s wrong, he’s going to try and rationalize it, which will sound stupid and make him look even more idiotic, but that isn’t good TV unless you like to watch a trainwreck. In this way, JM and Hrabosky have a lot in common: They have too much pride in being an “expert” to ever admit they were wrong, even when the evidence on the screen clearly shows they were wrong. Then they spend half an inning trying to rationalize what they said to fit what happened.

Hence, we’re ALL dumber for having listened to that conversation, and since it happens all the time, how can we be considered intelligent life?

I usually watch on mute and listen to the radio feed, but I had to toggle back and forth to the ACM awards last night because Sunday night is the only night my wife and I get to watch TV together and that’s what she wanted to watch. I followed parts of the game on GameDay, and Carrie Underwood is hot enough to make this a tolerable situation. I am still searching for the reason why people find Taylor Swift attractive though. Can someone help me with this?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taylor Swift is a talented songwriter. . .

Attractive? I’m far too old to even have that be a legitimate question, at least with regards to Taylor Swift.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because she's a teenage celebrity

Being a teenage female celebrity makes you instantly hot to a large portion of teenage boys. Exhibit A, Taylor Swift. Exhibit B, Miley Cyrus.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find Taylor infinitely more attractive

than Carrie Underpants.
link
I think it’s the eyebrows…there’s something about her eyebrows, and that pouty mouth.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think she looks like a mouse.

And then she always acts like she’s Joan Jett when she’s onstage, whipping her hair around and stomping her left foot. I dunno, I think she’s a good songwriter, but I don’t get her whole vibe. She just doesn’t seem genuine.

If you think she’s better looking than Carrie Underwood, well, um. Well….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or maybe a lizard?

V, anyone?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never seen her onstage, performing

She’s attractive, but she gets played on country stations around here, and I don’t listen to country.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say Cyrus > daylight > Swift > Underwood

diff’rent strokes and all that.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 6:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would also say that ranking teen pop stars I couldn't care less about, on their attractiveness,

on a sabremetrically-inclined basement-inhabiting baseball blog may be among the lamest things I’ve done. At least in the last month…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 6:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well

we couldn’t disagree on that more.

FWIW, if our entertainment media would stop plastering their faces EVERYWHERE ON MY TELEVISION SCREEN I wouldn’t have to have an opinion on these things, lol.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 20, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you take into scarcity into account...

couldn’t you make the argument that the difference between hitting .300 and .343 is greater than between the other two?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I call every home run

I’m wrong most of the time, but every once in awhile I get it right.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well played, STL

I do as well.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Apr 19, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

My buddy and I called on accident

Making fun of Colbyspeak when he came up we were like “Colby smash?” and then he nailed it.

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Low BABIP or not,

I’m getting tired of LOBSTERS already this year.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 AM EDT reply actions  

i do hope there are ducks, though.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was certainly my intention

Let’s just hope it is the Cardinals intention as well

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't tire of those, ever

I’d much rather have guys being left on base than having no guys on base at all. Eventually we’ll have some hits in those situations and the floodgates will open offensively.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

We're due for a 10-run night, I think.

You’re right in that it is only a matter of time.

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I don't tire of seeing the runners on base, don't get me wrong.....

I’d just like to see a two out base hit here or there.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it’s kinda like people being pissed off at the bullpen giving up runs. I realise the pen is pretty bad this year, but the status quo is that most guys who get on base will be left on base, and that relief pitchers aren’t as good as starters. If we’re putting 15 guys on base every game, we’ll do well to score 5 runs, and if we’re giving 3 innings to the bullpen every night, we’ll do well not to concede a couple of runs in those innings. That’s just the way it is, and I think sometimes we lose sight of that.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yah...maybe we should talk pitching!
  • By xFIP we have the 3rd best staff in all of baseball right now. Including bullpen.
  • By xFIP our starting staff is second only to the Cubs in the entire major leagues. And by one hundredth of a point (3.57 to 3.58)
  • Opponents are hitting .189 off of our starting pitchers.
  • Opponents are hitting the ball on the ground 51.6% of the time off the starters. That leads the big leagues.
  • Cardinal starters are allowing only 2.20 BB/9. That leads the big leagues.

If we pitch like this all season, 3 runs is going to be enough just about every night anyway!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

This would be great

A much less nerve-wracking season if we can score 3 runs and win 4 out of every 7

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

That would be nasty

but we all know we won’t pitch like this all season, right? I mean, are those numbers sustainable?

They mentioned a stat last night (I think it was after Colby’s HR) that the Cards had scored like 60-some % of their runs via the HR, which led baseball.

I don’t think either pace is really sustainable for the long-haul. I’m sure our pitching will have some rough patches and at some point, you’ve gotta think that we’ll score some runs without hitting the ball over the fence.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think

our numbers are more sustainable than the cubs.

…just sayin.

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

zeus help us if that aren't

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 19, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The BAA isn't sustainable

But I would guess that the GB and BB/9 numbers probably are. The starter’s BABIP is also .220 right now, so that’s bound to go up a little bit, but I don’t think it’s going all the way back to .300 because of the number of GB outs they’re getting. I would think .270 to .280 might be a good average for our starters.

Jaime has been unbelievable, and Penny has looked a lot like his old 2006/2007 self through two starts, and he was one of the best pitchers in baseball over that span of his career. Do I think we’ll keep this up? Hard to say. Do I think injury problems are a greater worry than all five guys regressing to league average? Damn right I do.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I definitely agree with the walks and although I’m not sure we’ll be able to keep the GB% that low, it wouldn’t be surprising for us to lead MLB in that category.

I don’t think we disagree…I guess a big part of what I meant re: the pitching was that a huge part of this model of success assumes that these 5 guys who have been incredibly successful so far (fair to say that Carp’s been the shakiest?) will be the 5 guys making the vast majority of the starts over the next 5+ months.

And yes, I realize that “health is a huge concern” for every team.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think we do either

I’m just saying that Lohse, Penny, Carp, and Garcia have all had injury issues within the last 18 months, some of them severe.

I would say that odds of someone getting hurt are probably higher than any of those guys regressing to worse than league average for the better part of the season. And someone getting hurt worries me more, because we don’t have a lot of depth to fill from that’s any good.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Penny's 2 seamer

seems right on track. for a Duncan pitcher, he’s key. and on, so far.

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are right

the 60% isn’t sustainable. Because those LDs right at people should start scoring some runs.

by Evilfrog on Apr 19, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we don't seem to be hitting an insane Amy of HR's

Though my eyeball-test stat free assumption could be wrong. But the BABIP police will stop shutting us down so much at some point, especially Craig, Jesus is he driving the ball just foul/ right at people and hitting less than .100 because of it(he has k’d a few times but I think even in those AB’s he’s been hitting loud fouls)

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Amy was supposed to be amt for amount

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 10:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

It happens to me on my phone, too.

Don’t worry about it.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I noticed that about Craig

without bothering to look again, I was going through some of our FanGraphs pages today to see who’d been a bit lucky/unlucky and whatever. I was pretty amazed to see that, to go along with his .100 average, Craig had something ridiculous like a 60% LD%. Guy’s been tattooing the shit out of the ball and not getting much luck to go with it. Only 16 PAs, mind you, but it’s a good (if unlucky) start.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

And yet

Most people would say that Stav is the better hitter thus far, and he’s yet to HIT a line drive in 7 PA’s, lol. Craig has more line drive outs than Stav has plate appearances.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Craig’s taken a couple of walks. Stav, well, he don’t walk…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

But he hits HR's from his knees

And chicks dig that.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a catholic

Holy rec!

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

as a chick

I’d say your way off. rec’d anyway

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also.

Stav has yet to start a game.

by Evilfrog on Apr 19, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thing is

He hasn’t started slow — he’s hitting peas right at people. Short of Albert and Rasmus, nobody’s hit the ball harder in play than Craig, and he and Colby have little to show for it so far.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh come on

colby’s .167 BABIP and craig’s .100 BABIP are obviously going to stay that way for the whole year.

(.100?! that’s absurd!)

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really is.

I’ve been seriously impressed with Craig’s PAs. He just doesn’t have anything to show for them.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that you and fourstick necessarily disagree.

I may be wrong, but this is what I think each of you are saying. You are saying Craig’s results are slow. Fourstick is saying that Craig’s PAs and hits have been good, the result just hasn’t reflected how well he is swinging the bat.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fang was joking.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was joking

spants is correct. fourstick and i are in agreement.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whoops.

Obviously heavy sarcasm.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Craig

I wonder if it wouldn’t be better for him to be in Memphis playing rightfield every day. The Cards could then get a read on whether he could handle that position good enough to become Luddy’s replacement next year or the year after. He certainly isn’t getting many ABs with the big team. Or does he simply pick up a lot of experience sitting on the bench. OTOH, Stav is a fine bench player, as long as he hits somewhat and never has to play defense.

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's certainly above the play at Memphis at this point.

I think he’s a finished product and needs to be with the big team. I too would like to see him replace Luddy.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily disagree, spants

but it seems to me Craig’s going to sit a lot this year. I see Craig as a potential starter (obviously) in the future (whereas that certainly isn’t the case with Stav). Just not sure what’s best for Craig’s long-term development.

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That last word is the sticking point I guess.

I consider him developed.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

certainly as a hitter

but what position does Craig play? If the powers-that-be thought he was good defensively, he would probably be starting at third rather than Freese (who actually has shown a pretty good bat). I guess one plan is Craig gets enough time in right-field with the Cards to see how he looks out there defensively, and figure out what to do from there.

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his fielding is probably fine,

and most improvements on that would be done during warmups and practice drills, no? His biggest weakness is his arm and I’m not sure that’s going to improve much.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has to prove himself to TLR.

If we would like for him to play RF after Ludwick, then TLR has to be comfortable with him playing right field, and occupying a slot in the batting order. We saw the same thing with Freese (and, frankly, Craig) last Spring Training. Craig hit in Spring Training enough to “win” the third base position, but was not even considered. Freese did not do much more this spring than last to “win” the starting job. But, last season, at the end of the year, Freese hit pretty well and even played catcher. I’m not saying that Craig should have offered to catch at the end of Saturday’s game, but, coming up with some timely hits will help his cause in 2011 and beyond. (Another example is Anderson who inexplicably did not play last night.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine.

But going back to Memphis doesn’t help him “prove himself to TLR.”

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

but it could improve his ability as a right-fielder, though (as you said) it wouldn’t improve his arm

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

In LF the flies curve one way, in RF they curve the other.

I suppose some people feel naturally more comfortable on one side, Craig seems to understand how to read the ball off the bat. He was in LF when I was at the game the other day (and I was sitting in LF) and he looked fine. He actually looks a lot smoother than Holliday.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

He actually looks a lot smoother than Holliday

Damning with faint praise, are we?

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 19, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I suppose so. :)

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by spants on Apr 19, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I apologize.

It was a poor reply. I agree with you on both points. First, Allen Craig has nothing left to prove in Memphis. Secondly, his future as a Cardinal is helped more by Craig being in St. Louis, in the presence of TLR, so long as Craig plays the right way and comes through with some clutch hits.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh bgh, no apology necessary.

It is a pleasure discussing Cardinals baseball with you.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh...I don't think it makes much difference

I think the guys who are at AAA right now should be getting the AB’s there. Craig’s proved what he needed to prove at AAA last season.

What I’d like to do is swap either Craig or Mather for a bullpen arm. Pick one of those guys and decide which one is in the future and move the other one for a big league reliever or something. I think that the only way you can get that done is by putting them on the big league roster and getting them playing time.

FWIW, I don’t think Craig can hack it in RF. His arm is too weak to prevent people from running 1st to 3rd on him. He’s a LF if there ever was one, and that spot seems to be shored up for the next 7 years or so.

Stav is NOT a fine bench player, imo. He can only play 2 positions (unless you count catcher, I certainly don’t), he’s not a left-handed bat, and he’s not a good right handed bat. He has very little utility at all. Mather can play all the outfield positions fairly well and can move to 3B in an emergency situation. Craig is a much better hitter than Stav is (i.e. he takes a walk occasionally), is younger, and has more potential, so he should be getting the AB’s that Stav is getting.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not that straightforward, four

Craig may not have the arm to be an excellent rightfielder, but suppose we are convinced Craig can hit .320 with a fair amount of extrabase pop. Given the Cards salary situation, there might be a lot to be said to put Craig in right and live with his arm for a number of years. Might very well be better than paying to get someone as a free agent who probably wouldn’t hit as well as Craig. And, I’m not sure the Cards have better RF candidates (Jay, Henley) that bring all that Craig does offensively.

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that.

How bad is Holliday’s arm, though? Maybe he could move to RF.

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by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're probably right.

It’s a shame Craig’s got a noodle arm.

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by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

which get back to my original point, spants

perhaps playing RF in Memphis would provide useful info on how good Craig is out there, but we’ve belabored that point enough. :-)

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well we know he'd be less useful than Ludwick.

But he’d also be far cheaper.

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by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

(versus Kyle Lohse, say.)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well-played, sir.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I think a Craig/Jay platoon could also be effective, and you’d have a decent lefty slap hitter in a pinch role on the bench as well as someone who could play fantastic outfield defense as a replacement. Sort of a LH So Taguchi if you will.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like it. Assuming Ludwick leaves, I actually like the prospect of a...

5 man outfield -

Holliday (LF)
Rasmus (CF)
Craig (RF platoon/LF backup/backup 1B)
Henley (RF platoon, and can really play all OF spots)
Jay (classic 5th outfielder/CF backup/ bench bat and pinch runner)

What of Mather though? Perhaps since he could also serve as a backup 3b, there’d be room for 6? Really gives TLR flexibility but it probably requires a player like Lopez in the MIF. Or one of the OF could be traded (probably won’t get much though).

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Tyler Greene

can get it together offensively, he could probably be the “Lopez type” in the middle infield.

I actually think Ludwick leaving rests much more on how good David Freese is this season than anything else. If Freese can be a 20 HR threat at 3B, you could go with a RF platoon and not have to worry about losing a lot of production there. Ludwick might actually net a decent player in return if we were to deal him as well.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

I just don’t think we can afford Ludwick’s increasing salaries after paying Pujols. You’ve got to cut somewhere and we have serviceable options to replace Lud (hopefully Craig, etc. are at least serviceable).

I’ve always been a Greene fan and hope he can fill that utility role.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Craig/Jay platoon would be awesome.

After watching Jay play in back-to-back games, I am now on the bandwagon. (Disclosure: I have a Topps baseball card of Chief Justice John Jay that I hope to frame next to a Topps baseball card of Cardinal outfielder Jon Jay.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think there's really only room for one of Henley or Jay

I think carrying both is a little redundant. Arguably Henley’s got a bit more ceiling with the bat and a weaker glove, but they’re both really good-fielding, light-hitting lefty slap guys. I’d like to see one of Craig/Mather traded and then we use one of Jay/Henley in the OF next year as a backup guy. I’d really like to see Mark Hamilton getting some time on the bench, too (as a lefty power bat) if we can’t shift him in the meantime.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair points
suppose we are convinced Craig can hit .320 with a fair amount of extrabase pop.

If this is the case:

  • Why in the holy hell did we sign Matt Holliday to the biggest contract in Cardinals history? Those numbers are essentially Matt Holliday production. For nearly free. For 6 years. Hmmmm.
  • Why is he making his big league debut at the age of 26? Why didn’t he make the club last year when we started 2 awful players in LF for nearly the entire season?

I think your point is a fair one, but expecting Holliday like production out of Craig is crazy, imo. He’s an above average hitter, but I think a .280/.330/.440 line would be closer to what he’s capable of. If he could do that, then great, but I still think him play RF is going to cause issues defensively.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course it causes issues defensively

but it’s still a question of gains and losses in the context of the Cards salary structure. Few teams can avoid all issues. And perhaps I’ve been a little overenthusiastic in terms of expectations for Craig. But in answer to your question about signing Holliday, a lot of folks had exactly that thought with Craig being around. I would say the answer is Holliday has proved he can do it for a number of years, while Craig is still projection and speculation. But if Craig now looks like the real deal, why trade him for a middle reliever when there are reasonable (if not perfect) alternatives?

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't trade the best one, you trade ONE

Stavinoha is not tradeable, because he’s not going to make a roster as a starter. He won’t bring back anything in return.

Mather and Craig, however, are pretty much the same guy on this ballclub — right handed hitters with a little pop, not much experience, and play in the outfield. Mather is better defensively and has more utility, Craig might be the better hitter and is 18 months younger with less service time. I think you have to pick one of those guys to go with and trade the other one. You have Jay, Henley, and Jones in the minors still. If a team thinks that Mather or Craig can help them and is willing to give you a major league reliever who’s good in return, you need to make that deal. That reliever is going to be worth more than the player you’re trading away to the current team, and future returns are probably better as well.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way I see it Craig is too good of a hitter to keep

He is also essentially a holliday coupon. If he diesnt hit .300 with pop then so be it we have holliday, if he does we get to enjoy having both for a few years then dumping the flying part of the albatross (the last 2 or 3 years) on someone else and maybe even get a nice trade chip for it

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 3:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*not keep

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 3:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've said this once before

but if this Cards team is as good as it’s looked so far, I wouldn’t be aversed to including Craig in a deal for Heath Bell sometime around the deadline. I guess we have to be quite sure Mather can take over RF next year, though.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah we don't seem to be hitting an insane Amy of HR's

Though my eyeball-test stat free assumption could be wrong. But the BABIP police will stop shutting us down so much at some point, especially Craig, Jesus is he driving the ball just foul/ right at people and hitting less than .100 because of it(he has k’d a few times but I think even in those AB’s he’s been hitting loud fouls)

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good god

I’ve been double posting a lot lately

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 19, 2010 10:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

at some point, you’ve gotta think that we’ll score some runs without hitting the ball over the fence.

But the chicks don’t dig that. Oh no, they most certainly do not.

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ichiro disagrees.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno if he does

the guy rarely ever gets past 1B on his own. ZING!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Rec'd for making a funny

Flag’d for the self-zing.

But really only rec’d cause you can’t do both.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

good observation...

So really this beginning of the season’s offensive struggles with RISP can be attributed basically to guys trying to hook up?

Makes sense.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waino the Warrior

What’s most impressive about Adam’s start last night as that he didn’t let one bad inning get to him. He stuck with the gameplan and just kept pitching, knowing that the offense was going to come through for him eventually, and keeping his pitch count low enough to give the entire bullpen a night off. Pretty fantastic night on the mound really.

Those type of starts remind me a lot of Maddux in a way, mainly because of his record after a team’s loss the previous game. He has that ability to put the team on his back and carry them to a victory the next night by sheer force of will. You gotta love that attitude.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Sure it is

I can’t find his record in starts after a Cardinal loss, but I’m guessing that it’s better than .500, and I’ll bet his xFIP in those starts is pretty good too. I remember from watching those ’90’s Braves teams how Maddux would just pick up the team after a loss by going out, working quickly, and putting his team in a position to win.

I think there’s something to be said for that. The “Hey guys, I got this. Give me 3-4 runs tonight and we’re winning this game!” attitude.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Though, I bet you look at most any specific situation

and you’ll find that he puts up an over .500.

Though I do agree with you.

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

he is utterly awesome. I always waver about the question of who my favourite player is (usually say Carp, tbh) but Wainwright is, from a fan perspective, just so likeable in every way. I want to kiss him on the face.

/borat

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll kiss Waino on the face

He’s the… oh, I just think is the sexiest. Yadi the cutest, but -

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

(facepalm)

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by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you a girl spants?

J/K :)

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I KNEW IT!!!!

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Role players are key to any team

keep up the good work!

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duh

Otherwise it would be MooBull

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

just to make this clear.

I am really a frog. And I am really evil.

by Evilfrog on Apr 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice...

Don’t forget… Fredbird is a dork

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's obvious.

Look at your picture.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this liberating spirit of truth and openness

I really am a dog. But that isn’t my real hair.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 3:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And next you're gonna say Azu isn't a robot...

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's actually an android.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a phone?????

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, Android is a phone OS.

Androids are robots who look like humans. At this time, I cannot confirm or deny the form of android that Az takes.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was being silly.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I'm being serious?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like always.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm...

And here I thought most of my comments were jokes.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

You were wrong.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

pick up that knife over there

raise it above your head
now move your arm swiftly up and down
it feels kinda natural, doesn’t it
you remember who you are now?
gaw?

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It feels familiar.

(weeps)

It feels like home.

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by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

welcome back spants

we thought we lost you there for a brief but horrid moment

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone have one of those shiny blankets?

I’m cold.

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by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

somebody raided the first aid kit!

bastards

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh (stab)

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by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is awesome.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

the mouseover makes it

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really does.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

But
this is why Boog hasn’t been hitting well this year.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the tone we use to read it.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ASSHAT.

and yes, I am. albeit a hungover one. Don’t you read? No wait, that question answers itself.

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Warriors

Wainwright was magnificent, and others played hard as well. During the Saturday night marathon, there was enthusiasm all the way. Yadi was still smiling after catching twenty innings(!).

You could see in the dugout that they were happy to be playing a game that they love, and Sunday’s win was well-deserved.

by madridbend on Apr 19, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

i missed the second inning because i was out doing some homework, and was pissed to come back and see it be 3-0. after the eighth inning when he was still going strong, i was almost positive tony would take him out because of his pitch count and his spot was due up. because of the 3 run second inning, i supposed his pitch count was like 110-120. i was SHOCKED to look on gameday and see it was 96. what a horse. those last five innings of his were absolutely dominant.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's very economical with his pitches

He gets ahead in counts and makes hitters put pitcher’s pitches in play. There’s a reason why he led the league in getting to the 7th inning last year and had, what, 15 straight starts of 7 IP or more?

Unfortunately, there’s also a reason he had only one CG. Mr. La Russa, please take a bow.

I don’t know how many people here have watched Doc Halladay pitch, but WW looks a lot like him from time to time, just without the dominant fastball. Very economical, able to pitch deep into games, but I would bet if Halladay pitched for La Russa he’d have 1/5 as many CG over the last 6 years as he does right now.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i completely agree

i’ve never quite seen a pitcher get ahead in the count like wainwright does. it seems like almost ever hitter he’s throwing a first pitch strike to, and then gets them to swing at stuff later in the count when he doesn’t necessarily have to throw a strike. his control with his curveball has also increased exponentially, and the way he freezes hitters with it is absolutely amazing. and this isn’t even taking into account that SICK cutter/slider thing he’s developed.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best pitch for a pitcher...

…is strike one.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

but as our pitching staff is proving this year, sometimes it’s best to get more strike one’s than strike three’s.

Especially in this day and age of pitch counts.

FWIW, I wish we had a bunch of strikeout guys in the bullpen with the starting staff that we have now. It would make me feel better to know that our relief guys can get a punchout when necessary.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: MLB TV problems

So i’ve just got a new netbook, which is pretty sweet, after my old laptop died the death of a thousand blue screens.

However, after much tinkering yesterday, I’m really struggling to get mlb.tv to work in the pop-out player so I couldn’t watch any games. I’m running in IE8 (I’m usually a Chrome guy, but just haven’t got round to DLing it yet and I assumed mlb.tv would probably work easiest in IE as that’s what most people will use). I downloaded the latest flash (v.10 I think), and I turned off the pop-up blocker in IE. I even tried running it with my firewall and internet protection (McAfee) turned off.

Still, all I get is the window popping out (whether I try the high-def feed or the basic one, which I usually used last year), showing the title screen for the game, and then either the feed blanks out (showing the blank screen with the black/grey mlb logo at the back) or it says “media temporarily unavailable – please try again later”.

I tried to get on a number of games (and replays of old games) yesterday to no avail, I shouldn’t be blacked out (in the UK) and I tried to follow the advice on the “blank screen” part of the help forum (close any ad/pop-up blocker that you know of and shut down something in the task manager). Still no good. Don’t know why they use such a glitchy client for their video feed on mlb.tv when I can get the free videos (such as the condensed games, highlights etc.) on the website fine, youtube etc is fine, yet I can’t get mlb.tv in the player to work. I seem to recall having issues with it last time I changed laptop.

Any ideas/help/suggestions?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions  

What OS is it running?

I remember PJ having problems last week, and it was due to the nexdef plugin being installed, but it isn’t supported by WIN 7. He had to kill the nexdef process, and then was good to go.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've always had big problems with nex def

especially this season. I think getting rid of that is the best place to start at least

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm running XP

new PC but I really hate Vista and Windows 8 was only available for a shit-ton of cash, and, given that I’m comfortable with XP and they ironed most of the bugs out of it years ago, I went retro.

So, you reckon nexdef could be the problem? How do I go about killing that? I’m more than happy to just watch games on basic (I didn’t use nexdef at all last year either).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Go to run,

type msconfig, go to the startup tab, make sure nexdef is unchecked. Restart computer. It shouldn’t start up with your computer anymore.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

THIS IS A HANDY TIP FOR ME TO LOOK AT LATER

/bookmarking this comment so I can find it later instead of force-quitting nexdef all the time

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG (not related)

I’m loving the Boxee deal. I’m still getting MLB TV for 20 bucks. hope that lasts all season.

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup me too

for all the money slickdeals has made me spend unnecessarily, I owe them big time for that one.

by mattyp on Apr 19, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

bring up your task manager and kill

nexdef plugin, if you can do without those features (if thats not the thing you already shut down).

by mattyp on Apr 19, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

what's the nexdef thing called?

The thing on the forums told me to kill something in task manager, but when I went into TM I couldn’t find the thing (i.e. it wasn’t there). I was just trying to open the basic mlb.tv. Does the nexdef plugin auto-open on that? In fact, does the plugin not need to be downloaded, if it’s opening in my task manager? I didn’t download anything other than Flash 10.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

autobahn

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that was what they said in the forum.

I don’t think that was running when I looked in task manager.

I’ll try again tomorrow night. Hopefully I’ll get it figured out this week. Still haven’t seen a full game live!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i doubt that’s the problem

try a different browser

if that doesn’t work it’s probably either a firewall or just problems on mlb.tv’s end

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just get Firefox.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delete your system32 folder...

(also, don’t)

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

are you being facetious?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

great

now i gotta go look up words again…

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

just substitute sarcastic

nuance aside.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

facetious and sarcastic

both have nine letters – sardonic, on the other hand…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow

i totally failed at counting here, didn’t i?

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

weren't you told

there would be no math? I’m pretty sure I was…

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow

i totally failed at counting here, didn’t i?

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got it the first time

(in both regards)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the first time

i got sbn’d
i was starting to think i wasn’t special enough

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

highfive /borat

Chuck Norris doesn't need a bat.

he just roundhouse kicks the ball out of the park.

by bearcatcardfan on Apr 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He almost always is.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now, now, Dan

Don’t go all hyperventilatey on us. Remember, SSS!

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

"Go Nine"

Definitely a gutty performance by Wainwright last night. It reminded me of a story from Nolan Ryan’s autobiography — the bullpen on his team at the time was totally gassed from overuse, so before Ryan’s next start, somebody left an anonymous note in his locker that read “GO NINE.” And of course he did. You know that’s the mindset Adam had going into the ballgame last night – as several folks mentioned above, he put the team on his back for this one.

Speaking of Adam – anybody still angry at Jocketty for the Mulder-Haren-Barton trade should remember the other side of the ledger. Walt poached Wainwright (plus a couple of years of Good Jason Marquis and Good Ray King) from the Braves for Eli Marrero and what turned out to be a one-year rental of J.D. Drew. That trade gets more lopsided in the Cards’ favor w/every Wainwright start.

by DCRedbird on Apr 19, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

for every Wainwright

there is a mentionless. Worth that balance, yes?

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we still bitch and complain about Haren 5 years later

I would guess that they do too… even though they have a good staff

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Haren actually played for the Cardinals

I think Waino only got up to AA in the Braves’ system

Not sure if that makes any difference

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who knows

Maybe Waino wouldn’t have been as good without his own version of Obi Wan (Carp) and Qui Gon (Duncan)

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to say no.

Drew had an awesome year for them when they were in a win-now situation then left for a huge contract.

It’s not like the Braves have ever had an issue finding pitchers in the Scheurholz/Cox era starting in 1990. They’ve always had a shitload of arms. Now, if they’d have dealt Tommy Hanson to the Padres last year, they might be regretting THAT trade. That kid is an ace for years to come.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference, imo

Is that they could have paid Drew to stick around (and probably should have), we didn’t have any control over what happened to Mulder’s arm.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good question...

And the answer is yes.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of them said Adam was rude to a girl he knew.

Other people piped in and defended Adam.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah i see it
Maybe he isn’t as bad as I thought…

A girl in my office said that she met him at a resturant in Georgia a few years back, and he was really rude to her when she approached him (not THAT many would recognize him, so I’m sure he doesn’t constantly get approached). Anyways, she is probably one of the sweetest girls I know (the type that can’t help it to smile all the time) and anyone that could be rude to her has to be some sort of offensive d-word.

by bwellnjonesco on Oct 20, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

she approached him at a restaurant at home
let me guess
he was trying to have a meal with his family
i don’t understand why people think that celebrities have nothing better to do and must constantly be available…

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

I get the impression from things I’ve read (don’t ask me to link, can’t link to my brain because thats the only place that I keep it) that Adam’s wife could be a bit of the jealous type. Having a wife that is of the jealous type, if I’m approached by an attractive female, I’m usually brief with them because I don’t want to catch hell about it later. Just sayin.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 19, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think you can blame her.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i don't

blame her, that is.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 19, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If my not-so-secret dream ever comes true I'd be jealous.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

well then

the older he is, the less you have to worry about
give him 10 years and then snatch him

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No.

I mean I wouldn’t leave him after he stopped playing. I want a baseball player while he’s playing baseball. And I’m not waiting that long.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't marry someone if it wasn't true love.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grady and Colby...at the same time?

With Joey Bombs in the kitchen cooking up dinner for later?

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a one-man kind of girl.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's one thing to say that

It’s quite another to refuse Colby and Grady when they show up together at your door.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want them to fight for it.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't even really visualize Colby fighting someone

This is the guy who has a hard time even visually showing his displeasure with a strike call.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time visualizing Grady fighting with anyone either.

Which is why it would be funny.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then it's decided: Joe!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good choice.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

mind blown!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Colby should be the one cooking

Southern food OM NOM NOM NOM NOM HEART ATTACK I DIED WITH A SMILE ON MY FACE

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

this is right after his cheek-touch celebration with Mr. Ryan.
he was happy to see him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Mather's the best

Am i wrong in this, CG?

is he any good?

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's my favorite.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

they better watch it

Adam will be pitching against them next week.

by CRay on Apr 19, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if this was mentioned...

But did anyone else see that Wainwright slipped when he air-mailed that throw to 1st? It looked like his left foot skidded forward.

They didn’t show a good enough replay on FESPN because Joe Morgan was babbling on about having 2 targets and not committing to the throw.

Did I imagine it?

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 19, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

no you didn't

an it waz mentioned. that, or, i’m drunker than I thought. FUCK WORK

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't in the game thread last night...

but I’m sure the keen eyes of the VEB masses picked up on it.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 19, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

SC covered it after the game.

Some folks in the game thread said that FESPN talked about it later in the game, but I didn’t catch that part.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

they did for a brief moment

arguing whether or not there was a board under the chalk
with some very unskilled zoom of it
also showed a replay but it was only for a second
i did find it hard to believe that you can locate a curveball accurately from the mound but can’t throw in the general vicinity of albert pujols’ body without anything else going wrong
at least we had some real drama with last night

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It just looked like he was trying to control the throw

instead of unleashing it as hard as he’d throw a fastball. To me, it looked like he over-thought it and over-threw because he was so tentative.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, if ya don't have your feet under you...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

They mentioned it with their Axis thing.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

They showed it rather clearly on ESPN several times

He very clearly slipped on the white border around the home plate area, causing his throw to sail.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

REC

that’s the way it goes with waino & the mets

by Oedipa Maas on Apr 19, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

And yet

This is the first time he’s faced them since the 2006 NLCS

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes! Rec for you sir.

"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache

by GasHouseMang on Apr 19, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because if he gets hurt.....

longshot or not, we’re royally fucked the next day as far as finding a SP.

by SoonerfanTU on Apr 19, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree we would be royally fucked

But, we just would’ve had to call up whoever was yesterday’s starter for Memphis.

Wainwright getting hurt would royally fuck us, but not solely because of missing the next day’s start

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just not a chance you take.....

regardless of how good a hitter he is. In a game like that, probably the most “off limits person”, on all teams, is the next day’s SP. Agree or disagree, that is just the way most managers are going to treat it.

by SoonerfanTU on Apr 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manuel used Maine as a PR

Probably a better idea than as a PH

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

18 recs

well done indeed, sir.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 19, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i made 23

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 19, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

everybody on the team was happy adam pitched a CG.

Everybody, that is, but brendan ryan. He wanted his chance to pitch today.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 19, 2010 11:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

his chance comes in the 25th inning

see fanshot

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

waino!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

The Rays have already scored 8 on the BoSox

and it ain’t even noon yet.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

the red sox are having some issues in the past few days… can’t say i’m unhappy

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 19, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

fanpost?

Ok I have had ideas for them recently but don’t want to overdue it..I have a question right now on dubbing someone the next….Heyward is my thought…They are calling him names like Mantle (which as cards fans we had a can’t miss prospect who was the next mantle).

Don’t we get a bit overzealous that we always have to find the next? It took them years to even call Albert “one of the games best” and that was proving it at MLb level for seasons not after 10 games.

My thought is proof, for at least 2 seasons of steallar performance and thats just to say a guy is good among active players, not the Elite legends of the game.

Answering the question on the Elite level I find harder to do. Pujols has done it for awhile now and He’s just gotten to that level the last 2 yrs. had there been no blindness to Bonds maybe he gets there sooner.

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Apr 19, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

When Hank Aaron calls you

the best prospect he’s ever seen, that helps.

If Hank Aaron had called Albert the “best right handed hitter he’d ever seen” in an interview in 2000, that would have made a pretty big difference in how people thought about him outside of St. Louis.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder how much of heyward he's seen?

aaron’s not much of a baseball junkie.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently

he follows the Braves organization pretty closely, and he still lives in Atlanta. I think he goes to their spring training every year, and Heyward was a NRI both of the last two seasons.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

then i can see heyward being the best prospect he's ever seen

i guess the question should’ve been how much of prospects outside the braves organization he’s really ever seen, since in interviews he says he doesn’t really follow even major-league baseball on a daily basis.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Heyward hype is way out of control

Just ignore it (or exploit it in fantasy baseball, if you can).

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember exploiting the Jay Bruce hype a few years ago

And the Wieters hype last year.

I’m trying to exploit the Vernon Wells renaissance as we speak.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade wells for bruce

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A non-idiot has Bruce, sadly

And my OF is Sizemore, N. Cruz, and CarGo anyway. I need to get rid of Wells to make room for Berkman in my UTIL slot.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So... I don't know why I do this (schadenfreude probably) but..

did anybody else happen to read the top post on BCB today?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just did.

WOW.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bring back K-Wood; then YP gets full-time closing duty!

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda thought that that the thought of moving Zambrano to close was funny

In what sane world would you move Zambrano to closer and leave Carlos Silva in the rotation?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

it almost makes the folks over at Cards Talk look tame

almost

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waino for Ace and Closer!

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

alcohol

that is all

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

No easy way to say this

The Marlins comishined Scott Stapp for a new Florida Marlins song. Yes, it’s exactly what you’d think it’d be like.

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha!

Douwwwwwble plawys and stouwwwwwline bases….

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

With seats very empty...no one sees the games...

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA

I really didn’t know one could type how that dude sings but….but…You. Nailed. It.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott Stapp and Cher basically sing the same now,

except his voice is slightly deeper and more gravelly.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...I had no idea.

What has 2 wet thumbs and apparently needs to download some music?
(licks thumbs and points at self)

/this guy.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Will & Grace

they guy that played Jack on Will & Grace did a really funny imitation of Cher (“If I Could Turn Back Tahummmmah”). And he did it in the presence of Cher. Too funny…

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Apr 19, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, totally forgot about that.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody else get kinda angry when they see Jose Canseco's twitter?

Ugh…@JoseCanseco

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

To make fun of his god-awful grammar.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

grammar?

that’s the first thing you found to make fun of?
not his stupid face?
his general ignorance?
his assholeness?
now comes grammar

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only keep tabs on that twitter account to chuckle at his horrendous misspellings.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

I feel for the editor that got stuck editing his books. Would you not want to fucking kill yourself with a spoon instead of editing 500 pages of his drivel?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

500 pages?

close gitmo
let all inmates from there share a room with jose and edit his “book”
that’ll straighten em up real quick
or make them suicidal
whichever

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd like to hear TLR's thoughts on canseco

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't want to hear him actually voice those thoughts

i’d literally just like to be able to hear all tony’s thoughts. i can deal with the bleeding.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder if

the part of his brain that is not occupied with baseball is full of penguins

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

kittens

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

see, that's the thing

we know his thoughts on kittens, but nothing of his thoughts on penguins

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Just appalled. He’s a human trainwreck.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth be told, I don't know which is more difficult to understand....

…my ex-girlfriend’s text messages.

or

…Jose’s “attempt” at civil tweeting.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

how drunk is your ex-girlfriend when she’s texting you?

I would guess that would help in figuring this out.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not; she was just dumb...

…maybe that’s why the relationship lasted a whole whoppin’ month….

I can’t date a (for lack of a better term) moron.

Now my last ex….I kinda eff’d that one up. She was kinda a B, but she was a looker.

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by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

my kinda girl.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Apr 19, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my god

it’s as bad as can be. first couple tweets i saw were calling someone a fag and telling someone to “shut the fuck up.” wow.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that real?

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

...sadly.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He makes no sense!!!
If u c me on the streets u better give a thumbs up or I will think ur a hater

I thought the thumbs-up died with it’s use in “The Sandlot.”

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

this one made me laugh

metricjulie‎: @JoseCanseco Jose – is your keyboard set to French? Can you say something to me in French?

by _pistol_ on Apr 19, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Old Hoss

OldHossRadbourn This J. Canseco Twitter flap reminds me of when T. Cobb created a MySpace page back in ’12. What a fool. We were all using Facebook. Ha!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pat Jordan just destroyed him

A few years back. It’s a very long read, but it’s some red meat if you love to hate the guy.

by Merry CRasmus on Apr 19, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who runs the Old Hoss Radbourn twitter account?!?!

I gotta feelin’ it’s a VEB’er…

I mention Jose’s twitter and BOOM, Old Hoss does shortly after.

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would've been obvious as Christy...?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

What??

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by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

the ghost of Christy Mathewson.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brendan Ryan burns with jealousy

probably

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/12AC39BBE3D81AEE8625770A001220FD?OpenDocument

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 1:16 PM EDT reply actions  

and of course

Secret Weapon!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i pertucularly enjoyed that part
Both of the Mets’ runs scored on sacrifice flies against Mather, who never got in a count to throw his slider. After the game, his cell phone glowed with 40 text messages. Read one: “Nice ERA.”

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

D.Stalker is so good at his job

so many times he can get Boog guys to show him their cell phones.

it boggles the mind.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't blame him for everything

maybe he sent that message and thought it was witty
wanted to … how do you say that.. toot his own horn?

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, I mean

I have multiple Cardinals showing him their cell phone texts. because he quotes them in the paper verbatim. it’s not just Brendan.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

...huh?

quoting verbatim means if he made it up, they could sue him… it’s specific, and it’s been in the print paper.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

over a text message though?

i guess he must be a really nice man then, and everyone loves him enough to show him their phones
that, or he has dirt on them they don’t want to come out
or always gets them when they’re really really drunk
or he can do magic

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I subscribe to all these theories

I am watching as closely as I can!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like this:
Adam Wainwright and Chris Carpenter also lobbied to play. Brad Penny said, “I wanted to catch.”

Can you imagine all of them just gathered around Tony like “PLEEEEEASE Tony! We’ll be really good I promise!”

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

it would have been crazy entertaining

carp at 2B, waino on 3B, penny C all cheering mather or boog on to throw a strike
or half of us would have hyperventilated when one of them had to throw to first

it sure looked like everyone was having real fun, i’m surprised they didn’t all do the high socks just to mess with the mets. i’m gonna rewatch the last 5 or 6 innings as soon as i get my hands on that game. with some drinks and snacks. good times

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

sitting behind homeplate

for the last 3 innings was pure ecstacy… I kept hoping that the order would turnover far enough to hear Mather get announced as the Pitcher… and when it did the entire stadium erupted! As it did when Bombs shook of Molina and then touched 86 on the gun… I will never forget this game.

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 19, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

where are the fanposts

jerks

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I heard an interview from

Moz… describing his anxiety at seeing Lohse in left field….

Can you imagine how he would have felt everytime a met swung the bat with penny fumbling around behind the plate… or worse yet carpenter in center field

While Spinning.

How much were yours? 34 dollars. You know you got a pay raise... right?

by streamman on Apr 19, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i believe it

when you are responsible for someone else’s millions no wonder you’ll be anxious
i wonder if he was nervously popping his collar up and down for 4 hours

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was probably more like "Tony. I want to play. Just say the word. The young sidekick here also would like a plate appearance."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

well. I imagine he would use the term 'padawan'.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do I feel like OldHossRadbourn has to be a VEBer?

http://twitter.com/OldHossRadbourn/status/12466705360

The shocking surprise behind the “verified” J. Canseco Twitter account is that it is secretly run by M. McGwire.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I get that feeling a lot.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

At first I thought maybe.

But now I think it has to be a VEBer. I only wish I’d thought of this first.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're welcome

/taking credit for having the person make that tweet

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by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So all those tweets that sound like VEB are suggestions form VEBers?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it wasn't a suggestion

I was taking credit for my comment earlier in the thread asking if the Canseco twitter account was real

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh.

I get it.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklin cannot be the closer anymore...

For 2010:
6 appearances
6 innings
26 hitters faced
0 strikeouts
-———————-
73 pitches thrown
23 balls
25 pitches put into play
12 fouled off
9 called strikes
4 swing and miss

He’s completely shot…

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 19, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Why focus on the negative?
  • 25 pitches put into play, only 8 for hits, none of those have been a homer. Only 1 XBH of those 8.
  • He’s faced 26 hitters, hasn’t walked anybody. I believe he only has one 3 ball count.
  • No blown saves.

I don’t disagree that we need a closer who can miss some bats occasionally. But at least he’s somewhat getting the job done even though his stats aren’t pretty.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They are...

1. Trade for Frank Francisco (DJ+Sanchez)
2. Sign Smoltz
3. Reyes-Miller/Boggs-Hawk matchup based ninth
4. Eduardo Sanchez
5. Floppy

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 19, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think before you deem mather unworthy of consideration

just remember SSS. give the guy a chance, heh?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're so wrong you were suppose to say

6.success.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can we do #4 and #1?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he doesn't want to do them all

that’s his order of preference

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to trade for Francisco

But he’s unavailable. Texas manager intends to make him the closer again soon, and he’s been pitching well lately.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, ok

1. I’m not a Franklin fan, but I don’t want Francisco. His stats certainly don’t look good if, as you do with Franklin, you only analyze his season to-date. ZiPS projects him to have a worse FIP than Franklin this year. Moreover, I don’t think the Rangers would trade him right now anyway.

2. I’d like to sign Smoltz, and maybe that’s still a possibility.

3. I’m fine with a matchup based 9th, but you could match up Reyes/Miller with Franklin and probably get the same results.

4. Sanchez is a fine relief prospect. Perhaps he’ll come up later in the year if Franklin falters.

Bottom line – I don’t think Franklin’s “shot” based on this year’s stats. He’s the same guy he’s always been. As long as he keeps his walks down and the ball in the park, he’ll be ok. At the end of the year, we’ll see how Boggs, Motte, and Sanchez look.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 19, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not that bad

although I don’t think he’ll be the closer by the end of the season

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

BABIP of .321

FIP of 3.53. He should be fine once things start averaging out.

by BoilerPhil on Apr 19, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

xFIP = 5.57

I’d worry if things “averaged out”, lol

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that

Expected Franklins Ingested per Person?

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Perhaps this is the reason he was kept around? I mean, Budweiser is a sponsor right? By keeping around a closer who drives the whole fanbase to drink, aren’t they kinda doing their jobs?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wainer for MVP!

now we’ve won every series so far, and the Diamondbacks are likely the toughest team we’ve played yet. should be interesting

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: Did anybody else's musical taste evolve because of their parents?

In my case my dad

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

What do you mean

Like, your parents had a big influence on your musical taste? I’d say maybe, but only slightly. Although, I wouldn’t have near the knowledge of music from the ‘60s and ’70s if it weren’t for them

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by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I used to play ice hockey competitively and my dad would drive me everywhere

So most of the music that I listened to when I was younger (before I had a discman even) was the music that he liked. Most of it was classic rock. and I still listen primarily to the classic rock station. I am super picky about new music and I guess I don’t enjoy it as much as most other people I know. I just wondered if i was an oddball in that regard.

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, it's not odd

If it weren’t for my dad, I probably would have zero appreciation for bluegrass music. I don’t actively listen to it, but I appreciate it.

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by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

soundsofblue.com plays great 60s + 70s music

On demand playback and put up with the first 4minutes of talk. This is a commercial free, independent radio show; the DJ is a hippie with about 15000 albums/discs and plays whatever he wants.

by D4 on Apr 19, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

what kind of music was that?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 19, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

my brother was into

manowar, running wild, iron maiden, dio, blind guardian and the such
i heard it, liked it and kinda picked my own bands from there
i would have gotten to the place i am regardless, but the detour was fun

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before my babysitter I only knew there was country

Then she turned on MTV and danced like a pre-teenaged girl to Rag Doll. After that, f-u country. MTV went from rock to pop and so did I until Pearl Jam and Seattle turned MTV into Grunge. I’ve been a rockstark ever since.

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by rocKStark5 on Apr 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't have cable

but whenever I went to a relative’s house or a friend’s, I was totally infatuated by the mtv

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Similar story

But I moved into Yo! MTV Raps and then after HS I spent a year in Memphis and Atlanta, adding BBQ joint blues and jazz.

A song set on the iPod can very much be a very odd experience.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got into jazz because of seeing it live more than anything else

but I did have a sound engineering/history teacher that was really into it, and some friends too, that helped

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

grandparents too.

but I did add on top of that.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Used to listen to country music in the car whenever I rode with my parents.

“Rebelled” and started listening to modern/active rock in my early teens. Listened to lots of hip-hop once I dropped the subs into the car.

Started to pick up classic rock in the tail end of high school…which actually brought me ’round full-circle, as my dad expanded classic rock repertoire (lots of Chicago and Triumph)

Having been in marching band for 4 years through HS, I picked up a lot on classical music.

Truth be told, my musical taste really runs the gamut. Older country, classic rock, hiphop, southern rap, classical, metalcore, 80s hair metal….all of it.

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by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Older country > new country

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by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Undeniable fact.

“Thunder Rolls”
“Summertime Blues”
“The Dance”
“My Maria”
and who can forget….
“Achy Breaky Heart”

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had forgotten

Thanks.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, you're welcome.

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Dwight Yoakam?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't judge him.

He hasn’t walked the streets of Bakersfield.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you are criticizing Dwight Yoakam. . .

then you haven’t heard his (cover? duet? cover/duet?) version of Streets of Bakersfield with Buck Owens.

Dwight Yoakam has far more old country cred than you are giving him credit.

Miranda Lambert’s latest, too, but that ’s a whole other post.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 19, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not at all criticizing Dwight Yoakam.

He is my favorite country singer, behind Loretta Lynn.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

"My Maria"

BW Stevenson, 1973

(Granted, he’s referring to Brooks & Dunn’s 90’s version.)

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn't aware anybody but me and my roommate

in college back in the late 70’s knew who BW Stevenson was. Texas Morning was a decent song. Still have his first LP.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's due to my parents' vinyl collection

And yes, it’s on my iPod.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Maria?

Or Texas Morning? (Or both?)

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Maria

Would have to look for the other.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a brief glimpse at my selections, haha.

Last.fm user profile

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

my parents and I have extremely different tastes

mine were much different than my dad’s, have a few things in common with mom but not many. it’s because I have older parents, they were in there upper 30’s and early 40’s when I was born, generational gap

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

when were your parents born?

I ask, because my parents are about 30 years older than me, and I’m about 34 years older than my kids, but my kids and I are pretty simpatico music-wise, whereas there IS a big gap between my tastes and parents tastes.

As I mentioned somewhere else (up, down?) I think the rock era changed everything.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Apr 19, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was born in '75

dad was born in ‘34, mom in ’42. probably why I identify more with mom’s tastes lol! mainly my older sister though got me into music, then later it was kids on the bus and high school friends (we didn’t have cable so I was always out of the loop til I was on my own)

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

since then

and the inception of the internet, I pretty much just search out what is being reviewed well or sounds similar to my current tastes, although I did learn about a lot more bands in college of course

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing it depends on when you were born

I was born in 1960. My parents had almost no influence on me musically. Most of the albums they had were things like Herb Alpert & Tijuana Brass, etc.

I seem to have a big influence on the music my kids listen to. I played a lot of music in the house when they were young, and now when I’m driving them around, I play a variety of stuff.

I’m guessing that once the Rock era came (say post ’55 or so), that that music translates better to kids.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Apr 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, and thank god for that

I’d be stuck listening to nothing but Kenny Rogers, B.J. Thomas, and the Beach Boys. With an occasional shout out to Bobby Vinton. Phew, dodged a bullet there.

My mom has early Springsteen and Beatles records and was a big Neil Diamond fan, and I’m still big on a lot of that music, I just discovered it later and not because of her. Not sure how much effect that had, because she has listened to nothing but classical music for as long as I can remember, although she wore out a tape of Clapton’s Unplugged when it came out in ‘93. That’s the only non-classical tape or CD that I’ve ever seen in her car though.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

yeah, my parents have really bad music tastes, especially dad

he is a bit eccentric

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It took a village for me

kdhx is the greatest thing in stl (non-cardinals division)

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by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My dad led me in the right direction

and from there I expanded my knowledge considerably. Now it goes the other way.

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine did.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

However I have also rebelled and now listen to crappy music.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is awesome

What good stuff were you introduced to before you regressed to the mean?

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I've discussed this before and people said my parents stuff was bad too.

But Fleetwood Mac, The eagles, Tom Petty, The Who, Heart, a lot of other things. Mostly 70’s stuff. And then there’s my dad’s music which is just weird. That had no influence whatsoever on my music taste.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even know.

That’s how much I don’t pay attention to it.
I know he like old-school country. And opera. And then lots of obscure bands with people who sing weird. He likes Phish. There’s a name I remember. They don’t necessarily sing weird.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

yeah, I see what you mean, though

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

Although I eventually did come to appreciate his taste in music…about 5 years after moving out.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Truth...

Why AD was cancelled

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

They're not going to make a movie, either.

I haz a huge sad.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bateman says it's not dead yet.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It thinks it'll go for a walk

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

On a segway.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're mulling it over

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

DO NOT THROW AWAY

DEAD DOVE

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did he say that?

Because a week ago or so, David Cross said it was over.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Over the weekend

Will find link

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

Linko

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it hurts to remain hopeful!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

/see gdm's sig

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he had a new one last nite

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

I’ve been a little out of the loop

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

not like it was a 180 or anything

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

now i'll have to re-read it

i remember thinking it was maybe perhaps possibly about 1% more sunshiney

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

awwww

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, it was the same network...

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's an idea

Let’s green light another show by the Family Guy guy.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Family Guy got a movie, too.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think you're helping.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Are you serious?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

She is.

I think they got two, actually.

A Star Wars parody and a Stewie documentary.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did the manatees write both of them?

Otherwise it doesn’t count.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure, haven't seen them myself.

Stewie Griffin
Something Something Something Darkside

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I knew what a wainwright was.

/idon’tthinkthathelpsmycase

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol @ Red Sox

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

6 back, eh?

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

They'll be fine

For a team that good, six back isn’t that big of a deal. They’re an awesome club, they could rip off 10 wins in a row no problem.

Once Jon Lester rights the ship, that will help them a lot.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think they will.

I predicted them to finish 3rd this year. Their lineup lost a hell of a piece and have nobody to pick up the slack. Cameron is nowhere close to the hitting power of Bay (Even though Bay is garage with the Mets right now). Ortiz is struggling, and they really don’t have much power other than Youkilis. The reason they could rip off 10 wins is that they had hitter wake up out of slumps at the exact same time, like Ortiz, Lowell, etc. I truly think Ortiz is done this year, and I don’t think Lowell will be able to bring the necessary production if he plays.

They do have fantastic pitching, and Lester will get better, but the pop just isn’t there like it was the past few years.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 19, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Drew still has pop, doesn't he?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair point

But he doesn’t play enough to be a factor. Plus, he’s not as great a hitter as Bay.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 19, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a MUCH better fielder.

And they got better by replacing Bay with Cameron. His hitting isn’t that much worse and he’s worlds better in the field.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Papi is truly done

They’ll make a move to acquire a bat. There are first basemen out there for the taking and they have some pretty decent prospects that other teams will want.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it will be after the ASB.

Papi is going to get the benefit of the doubt, and their pitching will keep them in things until then.

The question is, who do the Padres go after? I think if you’re the Pads, you’re asking for Buchholz and Bard and nothing less. That gives you the license to deal Bell for prospects and may even allow them to move Chris Young to a contender if he pitches well through the deadline. If they could deal those three guys and get good return on all of them, they could get younger and better in a hurry.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 20, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really know enough about the Sox prospects behind their top few guys & Lars Anderson

I think Buchholz should be the main piece, definitely (although FWIW I think Epstein’s said in the past he’s basically untouchable, and I’m not sure he’s actually as good a prospect as he’s hyped up to be, so there may be something of a disconnect in the Padres’ and Sox’s valuation of the guy). Personally, if I were the Pads, I think I might be looking more long-term and go for a package around Casey Kelly.

I’d definitely be looking at Boston’s 1B depth (and the fact that they’d be signing their 1B for the next ~5-8 years in Gonzalez) and try to get one of Anderson or Rizzo (who I know pretty much nothing about) as a possible long-term A-Gon replacement (if Headley doesn’t end up moving to first, which I think is a possibility).

If they’re going for a higher up arm, I actually think Bowden might be a good guy for them to go for – he won’t be as highly valued as Buchholz and I think he’s the sort who might do OK in San Diego, as he puts a lot of balls in play and has been a bit of flyball pitcher but puts up miniscule walk numbers. I could see him being a useful innings eater for them for 5 or 6 years.

So, maybe something like Kelly, Rizzo and Bowden. That sound like a fair package for a year and a half of cheap Adrian Gonzalez?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goold's scorebook for the 20 innings

here

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I love discombobulated scorebooks. I've gotta couple that look like that.

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't read yesterday's threads yet,

so I’m guessing I’ve been nexdef’d, and it’s a moot point anyway, but TLR said he would have asked Ank to pitch on Saturday, or a game such as Saturday’s.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, someone mentioned that

i don’t believe it though, unless his intent would’ve been to get him permanently out of the lineup and into a fetal position.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

...he said it would be "fun"

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Fun" in the sense that it's fun to see grown men cry?

Both Rick and me.

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Apr 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would pay to watch

him throw that curve again, even if it did hit the backstop 5 times.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fastball was the problem

I was there for that game, and it was scary stuff when it was happening. When it was over, it was depressing.

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Apr 19, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was about to say that...

Saw him here in Houston drop curve after curve for strikes. The fastball? Not so much.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m waiting for a throw to the plate that ends up in the mezzanine

by D4 on Apr 19, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was my last year in the STL.

I probably saw 3 of his starts early in the year, and was amazed at the nastiness of the curve, especially when the fastball was working. Anyway, I was sick at the end of the year, and , probably like many here, spent the next 4 years asking whats going on with Ank.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i still have a 3g, never made the jump to 3gs

but at almost 2 years old by the time this thing comes out, with the new hardware features, i might have to switch to something newer. guess we’ll see what OS 4.0 has to offer

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll be making the switch when that guy comes out

Especially if it’s on Verizon.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 19, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

as much as i love to bash apple, i’ll be damned if they aren’t constantly one step ahead with their cellular telephones

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, they still make the iPad

A netbook without a tactile response keyboard, Flash, a slower processor and less HD-space all for a higher price.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 19, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

endless source of entertainment

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

video chat appears to be one thing

fuuuuu

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

What OS4 has to offer:

Built-in foldering system
Built-in multitasking
Video chat support
Email improvements
iBook support (if you’re into that kind of thing on a phone)
Some upgrades to business-related stuff (security, scalability, compatibility)
Apple’s new apps-as-ads thingamabobber

Presumably also faster, etc.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...

all the things that the iPad doesn’t offer.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing

The iPad will get the iPhone OS4 before very long, albeit modified a bit to not include things like video chat.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, sure.

Create an event out of the iPad release. Then, create an event out of the new iPhone and its OS. Then, create an event out of the new iPad with the new iPhone OS. Then, create an event out of…

It’s what Apple does best.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

It does

But if the new HTC EVO 4G makes it on multiple platforms it could be an iPhone killer. This one still doesn’t support 4G and still isn’t multi-platform, which I think is a mistake if you’re Apple. Sprint’s 4G network is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than that AT&T network that they’re on right now.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

My understanding is

Sprint’s “4G” is pretty much a marketing ploy, and that they’re basically just calling it 4G because they can. In terms of actual ability, I’ve been told it is only very marginally better than 3G networks.

The next step is actually “5G,” which is the network Korea is installing nationally…ah, to have a tiny country.

That said, Sprint’s network is supposed to be pretty nice, although that’s probably partially because they’re not taking the kind of traffic that AT&T has been (futilely) trying to handle from iPhones.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been with Sprint for a long time

and the 4G service I have on my Pre beats the holy crap out of everyone’s 3G service on the iPhone. The Android browser is even better than the Pre’s browser, and the phone will be truly 4G, not the hybrid version like my Pre.

Sprint’s network not taking traffic? Pfffft. They are the #1 provider of mobile broadband service, narrowly edging out Verizon. I’ve had their AirCard for the past 4 years or so and get great service with it. The new 4G cards get around 5 MB down, which is pretty close to true 4G speeds.

All Sprint’s cell towers are tied together with fiber (because they built their own network in house) unlike AT&T’s, which still runs a lot of towers on HFC broadband systems since they bought theirs up from municipal providers. The only limit on bandwidth would be the wireless, and Sprint is a partner in Clearwire, so they continue to work on faster and faster mobile technologies.

If anything, AT&T is the one that is behind — if they didn’t have the iPhone exclusively, nobody would have their service.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting

I’m no expert, so I’ll take your word for it.

FWIW, my friend with Sprint also swears by it.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course you realize there is no 4g support for the pre

EVO wil be the 1st wimax phone. wimax is only available in very select markets. you have the same 3g on your pre that is currently available on every other current sprint phone

by FunkeeC on Apr 19, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was told my Pre was a hybrid (4G chip running 3G), but after looking around a bit at the FCC filing, it's not.

The EVO will be the first true 4G phone that they have, yes.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

and here I though I was the only person excited about an EVO

it has an hdmi out
who the hell puts an hdmi out on a phone
most laptops don’t have them

this is going to be awesome

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 19, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

Word is it will also support the new SD Flash memory that’s coming out too, giving you the ability to stick a 64 GB flash card in it if you so choose. Nothing like having a Blu-Ray on your phone, right?

Word is, it’s going into direct price competition with the iPhone as well, starting around $199 with a plan. Seriously, the hardware on this phone kicks the holy ass out of the new iPhone, and it runs Android, so it will have all sorts of free apps for it that you don’t have to pay for.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 19, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holy cow that thing is packed with features.

8MP camera with flash that’s capable of 720p video? YES PLEASE.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 20, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine works at their corporate headquarters

He’s done some testing on the EVO and says it’s the most badass piece of phone hardware he’s seen, and he’s an Apple enthusiast (he has a Touch, iPad, and 2 PowerBooks — his wife is an architect and graphic designer, and Mac’s are just better at that stuff). Hopefully he’ll have a test model in hand when he visits in May.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 20, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like BlackBerry phones,

and I like having a physical keyboard, but that phone has so many amazing features that for the first time, I’m questioning my commitment to keys. With an 8MP camera that shoots 720p video, I could for the first time, carry one device everywhere. It sounds so liberating.

The only thing that’s got me nervous is that right now, I have an everything data plan. I wonder if that 4G phone will require a special plan or if it will be covered. I’d hate to pay through the nose for the service.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 20, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT- Has anyone ever been to this?

Saint Louis Brewers Festival

Just curious how it works, if it’s worth the money, etc.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

It has become a tradition

in my family to attend. We have been to all of the different sessions in the previous years but the Saturday afternoon one is the best (weather permitting). The price has gone up again but 30 dollars is still worth it…if you like beer, you will enjoy the festival.

by swmrnbk on Apr 19, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool...thanks.

What is the difference in “different sessions?” I mean, is there more stuff available or something?

I dig beer and used to brew myself (hoping to get back into it soon). It sounds like a cool event.

by goodymobb on Apr 19, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They have a strict untucked shirt rule

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Son of a .....

I’ve been eating cupcakes the wrong way all this time…

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

oh shit

how did i not think of that?

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, right?!

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's brilliant

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong

The best way to eat a cupcake is to tear off the bottom of it, throw the bottom away and eat the top.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

does not apply

these have no icing on them
also, you’ll need a bunch on newmans to do it that way

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

without icing

does that even qualify as a cupcake?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd go with that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost as good as how to open a banana without the stem.

But still brilliant.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 19, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

please share

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I posted this awhile back

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJV56WUDng

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Apr 19, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

whilst googling, i came across

this humorous bit.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I usually just eat the bottom by itself first

And then I have a huge frosting-to-cake ratio for the second half which is awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

they make cupcakes with the cream in the middle and on top

so I say this does not always apply.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Music....

It’s really only 4 chords. Ever.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

It's pretty entertaining to look at the stats page on the Cardinals official website

and see Mather’s 9.00 ERA and Lopez’s 0.00 ERA. Man, that ERA of Mather’s is going to be an eyesore for the stat sheet this year >sarcasm<.
I was kind of pissed while watching the game (with the bounty of failed executions and LOBsters that occured), but in retrospect, it was a pretty interesting day night game

by stxcardsfan on Apr 19, 2010 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Listen, kid

I’m a full two years older than you. Get back in your crib. And since being 1 year older is being 100 years older because I’m a pitcher, being two years older is being 200 years older — except not really because it’s only LIKE being 100 years older, and so you can’t really upscale that to being LIKE 200 years older because blah blah arghrhghh /aneurysm

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Rec.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what I wanna know is

what constitutes a small market pitcher.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

get out of my head joe morgan

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely do

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 19, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

NCAYL

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

ESAD

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OBP lower than BA

How does this happen? During the game last night, one of the Mets (I cannot remember who) had a lower OBP than BA and was mentioned as 1 of 4 in MLB to have this.

by Green Man! on Apr 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Never Mind

I figured it out myself. Sac Flies. They would count against OBP and not BA.

by Green Man! on Apr 19, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

What SBN needs to add

Is the ability to “save” the current new/old state of comments in a thread. Sometimes I don’t make my way all the way through a thread and I have to leave work or something, and I’d love to be able to load the comments up at home and pick up right where I left off.

Also, live comments on the mobile site or in an app.

Also, an edit feature. Like Digg’s, maybe, with very short a time limit to edit (for proofing, etc.).

Yeah.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Anything else?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 19, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like the ability to star comments

Not a rec, but a star so that I can look later for messages I marked.

Y2S would love this, I think.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like list of all comments I rec'd.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

This would be nice, too

And I’d like to be able to view comment threads by most rec’d. Or maybe just have any green comments get bumped to the top of the page, sort of like how heavily-rec’d Fanposts get pinned to the top.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like the green on a green comment to show up when it hits six recs instead of having to refresh it.

also it would be nice if veb comments loaded quicker.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 for the live-updating rec totals

I assume none of these are new complaints, but where could I go to make suggestions on SBN? Anyone know?

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hear there's a PO box somewhere

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

But some comments aren't funny out of context.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only parent comments would get bumped

So only the comments that touch the far left side of the screen and thus can be viewed as responses to the main post, but not to any other comments.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

this sounds a lot like what reddit does.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of comment-centered sites do it

Or at least allow you to sort to see it this way.

by mojowo11 on Apr 19, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What am I going to do for almost four hours until the Cardinal game?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

You could give into peer pressure,

and drink like the rest of us.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd.

 Cheers!

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going to the game tonight and I'm very excited!!!!!

that is all.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

make grilled cheese

for good luck (just don’t use colby jack)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

its burnt beyond edibility

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't you have any more bread?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

see i already had a sandwich, but i was still hungry

and i have these really good sandwich rolls. so i tore it in half to toast, but burnt it. then i tried the other half. same result. now there are only two rolls left, so if i use another it means when me and my boyfriend have sandwiches tomorrow, one of us will not get the good bread. i guess that would be me.

well fuck it maybe i’ll just try again.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

just tell him to pick up some more rolls by tomorrow

cite Cards v. Cubs

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

toast success!!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me guess

you turned the toaster down?

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the Facebook FSN Midwest page someone said about the lineup:

“It’s perfect minus Colby cheese.” My heart hurts.
Here’s the lineup by the way:
Skip 2B, Luddy RF, Pujols 1B, Holliday LF, Rasmus CF, Lopez 3B, Yadi C, Ryan SS, Penny SP

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:12 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah that one is okay too

tony just looooves getting lopez in there, doesn’t he?

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love it too.

He is nice to look at.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freese is having a nice start though

.353/.410/.412

(SSS)

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's also not bad to look at.

So it’s a win-win.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking at him is only half of it, though

it’s when he looks back at you…scary.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scary as Lugo?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

off the field, yes.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assumed Freese was good looking but I hadn't actually asked a female yet

Good to see my handsome instincts are still functioning. Cause, uh, that’s really useful… or something?
I’ll just stop now.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's better looking at an angle

than straight-on.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh

it all makes sense now. Hence the scariness when he looks back at you?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

I was just surprised to see him with the highest BA and second-highest OBP on the team. Doesn’t seem like he’s been that good.

Of course, Nick Stavinoha’s one HR still carries him to the team lead in SLG.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

lots of dying quails & seeing-eye singles

he’s doing OK though.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's hitting the ball fairly well, though

i saw a couple bloop hits in one game, but then there’s the ball last night that he smoked for an out – not saying all that evens out, but he’s made a good showing so far

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

random twitter question

is there a way to add your own commentary to a retweet?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did he stop with the caps?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he reads VEB?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't curse, either

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

whomever told him that

FAILS

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

^whoever

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just copy and paste and put RT before the tweet.

You can’t add it if you do the auto retweet thing.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

what she said. the auto retweet thing actually kind of sucks, in my opinion. am i following you, ihb?

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 19, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

so like

blah blah blah RT@name (copy tweet)

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

k i did that but the tweet didnt link to his name

is that normal?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a space between the @ sign and his name?

Also it won’t link until you send it.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh i see it now.

You have to have space between the RT and the @ sign.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

eff.

alright, i will try again.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and thanks!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the rules are longer than the message limit...

is it really a good thing?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

when did roto get humor?

waino is a cy contender, but livan hernandez is the current favorite.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I saw that

They just slipped it in there.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I quite liked that. GO LIVAN!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hilarious SSS stat line of the day:

Livan Hernandez 2010 ERA: 0.00
Livan Hernandez 2010 xFIP: 5.39

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Going back to the music subthread

Rap meets Bluegrass…

Gin & Juice by The Gourds

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

just noticed your sig

nice.

jose reyes requested to be taken out of the lineup tonight. request granted.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A classic

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

anybody know why the mets and cubs are all wearing 42 today?

is it because the mets were on the road for jackie robinson day?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

is this for reals

because there’s been some twittering about this. the cubs already wore 42 on April 15 with the rest of the league.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 19, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i'm watching the game

both teams.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

mets announcers talking about cards pitching rather than the game

began with curves of waino and carp (carp compared to a right-handed carlton), and then about garcia – ron darling says he’s never seen so much movement on a changeup since young santana.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

can i give you a gold star somehow

rather than just a rec?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Next time, use defenestration

They might agree to that.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

easy to make look like an accident, too, or suicide

who wouldn’t believe that morgan said something so stupid he jumped – it would be on tape, too.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

But will it be a small-market window?

Or a BIG market window?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I will turn this green.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as you don't pronounce it

Cud-dues.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 19, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, Wells swearing into his glove.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

soriano's knee is pretty bad

he’s hit the ball well, but turned a triple into a double, and then when he singled the mets didn’t even hold him on first (and he never ran).

i guess it’s safe to call up guys today and not lose a year of control. mets top prospect singled his first AB – must have been a hell of an offense with him and walrus at ASU

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding

I was on Ike Davis watch before any of this Heyward stuff

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heyward for cy young!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 19, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if he played for Tony

I dunno, could he even pitch with such enormous hands?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i bet davis could pitch

his father was an mlb pitcher, right? and i’d rather have big hands than small for pitching.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Heyward

2010 World Series Champs

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 19, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

OT Public service announcement

Don’t try to be learning golf by playing with your GF who is good at golf. Nothing good comes of this.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 19, 2010 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I suggest alcohol......

before, during, and after next time.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the golf course......

it’s the only place where drunk driving isn’t just accepted, it’s encouraged.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya. Mine's very good at skiing

I went a few months ago for the second time ever, after approximately 3 previous hours on skis. And, despite being very much a warm-weather person, against my expectations, I really enjoyed it… I think I’m going to be a regular now.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made my now-husband take a class at Meramec.

We went and hit golf balls one night and his swing was so freaking awful that there was no way I was going to attempt to teach him anything.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think bernie's "Adam Wainwright is a man" thing was just on

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

now it's the chamboarding.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brendan sure needed that towel.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Radio?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's FSM's "Cardinals Classics"

they put together a package of the Best of 2009. so we would never forget the year of the mustache.

oddly enough… they never mentioned the mustaches…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

just added the series recording,

now if only I could rip off my dvr.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been liveblogging this for weeks

I’m guessing the whole thing is replay-material for a while.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're perfect rain-delay fodder.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

bernie's in rare form

his shot at the Cards offense “I don’t know why anyone bothers to send an ace against the Cardinals… send in some no-name rookie!” It’s funny ‘cause it’s true.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s funny depressing as hell ‘cause it’s true.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

like yadi2?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm watching last night's

game, I got to listen, but not watch yesterday, and I wanted to see A.D.A.M I am not disappointed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

pre-game has begun

do we have game thread?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

The Cat talks to K-Lo

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

he put on a brave face! AWWW!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

"obviously I'm right now the best athlete in the starting staff in Tony's eyes"

lol

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

"a little scary. I didn't want to make the not top ten on that other station."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

he said eephus!!!

re Lopez

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

"he was kinda bad..."

re Mather

“his stride’s like… three feet long…”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

pitchers vs position players

“The results… what can I say.”

HAHAHA.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it was hilarious in that photo

12 yr old has a longer stride

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

FSM was showing Lohse trying to figure out where they were positioning him. haha.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got a phone call in the middle

so the liveblog is necessarily chopped. K-Lo seems laidback. wry sense of humor. but probably even more of a stinker off-camera.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

mets are in their bullpen in the 6th

been a rough ride for them

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Adam Wainwright and Mike Shannon

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Together again for the first time?

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

you’re funny.
your best zings are often delayed, though. no one’s around to green them except Monk.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny cause it's true

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

... all over again!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

A.D.A.M. is badass.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

darling talking about how wells is from belleville (technically lebanon, iirc)

he bets he’s a cards fan – my nephew played legion ball with him, and i can confirm to darling that he is indeed a cardinal fan.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

pitching matchups

Today – Rodrigo Lopez vs. Brad Penny
Penny – 1-0, 14 IP, 8 Ks, 0.64 ERA
Lopez – 1-0, 11 IP, 7 Ks, 4.09 ERA

Edge – Penny

Tomorrow – [] vs. Kyle Lohse
[[ – 1-1, 20 IP, 20 Ks, 3.60 ERA
Lohse – 0-1, 13 IP, 4 Ks, 4.15 ERA

Edge – …….

Wednesday – Edwin Jackson vs. Chris Carpenter
Jackson – 1-1, 18 IP, 11 Ks, 3.50 ERA
Carp – 2-0, 18 IP, 17 Ks, 3.50 ERA

Edge – Carp

So the Cards hold the matchups if that means anything…..

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle Lohse should have no problems

since it seems that the DBacks won’t be fielding a pitcher tomorrow

by LandSickness on Apr 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes.... tuesday has .... pitching if that even counts

 but ….. stats are better so i had to give ….. the edge

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

END THE DAN HAREN MEME

KILL IT NOW

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

HIS NAME IS DANIEL HAREN!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 20, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're showing the highlights from extras only.

that blond girl tried, she TRIED to beat out Alex Cora. the family in front was not so gung-ho.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

they were talking about that play in the mets booth

i didn’t even realize cora just came in the middle of that inning during a pitching change, and then was pinch-hit for in the next half inning. darling said he played 17 seconds of a 20 inning game.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Longer than Anderson did

Or even Maine.

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

they may show the curveball... show Lopez's curveball

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

they did show it

I’m laughing again.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's PITCHf/x on it now

Terrible curveball, would get hammered by big league hitters.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 19, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

like mather's fastball?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

so... effective in that situation.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh totally.

It was so awful it was beautiful.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ooo, cool.

Dan linked me to the MLB .xml file for that inning and it had been blank for the top of the inning. I wonder how they recovered the data?

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're showing a full scorebook on the air.

Goold’s type is prettier.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

drinking a delicious banana chocalate smoothie......

some people don’t like it for some reason, something about banana that ppl don’t like
but i think its great…..

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

it depends on the banana

probably popping in green ones.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you prefer the green more than the yellow

its yellow banana if that makes it better or worse…

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

no i mean

green means it’s not ripe yet. it’ll taste awful

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

oooo yeh i never have green bananas.... too bland

they have no taste…. im sure a green banana smoothie would have a similar taste

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they're not spotted i'm not eating them

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

too spotted makes it too soft in my opinion

you need a balance

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

then it’s too late
i like the lightly greenish ones
my dogs prefer them ripe but not me

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i need 'em well-spotted

blend the peel too

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

potassium

AND fiber?
vitamin whore

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

just a freak

nutritionist also told me always try to get all my fruit in by lunch.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

nutritionist = unqualified hack making shit up

One of pet peeves is pseudo-science/medicine. Those douchebags should all be shot.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you're making smoothies you should use super ripe ones.

They have the most flavor.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

works for banana bread too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how we got banana bread....

once they hit the eww I won’t eat those stage, bread magically appeared.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

we make a lot of that too. I only like my bananas with a bit of green on them, so we make a LOT of banana bread…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 20, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

would've thought they were the same as a normal banana

i don’t buy green bananas so……..

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you eat them faster

they keep for longer green.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i probably eat about five bananas a day in some form

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's kinda dirty

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

well, then i won’t tell you about the blender

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

How did you peel

said banana?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know where your going with this

i didn’t do it the “new and improved way” where you start from bottom… traditional

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don't eat the peel?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummmm.... no

do you?

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're higher primates, right?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think

cardball… that might be a different story

especially if he eats the peel

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i had my suspicions

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you might be surprised how many eat the peel

i tried the orange peel too, but gave up, even with blending it.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 19, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course not

you don’t eat banana peels,
you slip on them

by d-dee on Apr 19, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No no no.

You throw them into the road in order to derail the other drivers.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 19, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm happy to say

I’ve peeled them that way since I was ten. Once you go bottom of the banana, you never go back.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i should start

easier, much more efficient….. less stress on the actual banana making it softer than it should be

not sure why i haven’t started

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I use a knife

clean cuts on either side of the vein, then just open it up…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 20, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been peeling them the "new and improved" way forever.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Apr 19, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was completely devastated

when I tried that for the first time and lo and behold, I’d been opening them the dumb way my whole life. Thanks Internet!

by nota bene on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

game starts at 8:40 central time

so we got about 20 minutes

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 19, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not doing it.

i can teach someone the ways of the chat fanshot, though.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It will be there.

I have faith.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

these late threads/overflows have angered the GOB.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they have responded

by giving us LOBsters.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 19, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly.

they figure if VEB won’t bother to close the deal, neither shall we give you a safe call on the bases.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

here's the music

the shots of the desert

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 19, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

We have gamethread

Over there

>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez

by TBender on Apr 19, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

taking this opportunity to point out....

these tags exist:

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/tags/chris-carpenter-is-badass
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/tags/adam-wainwright-is-badass

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 20, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

there is always a need to point out the obvious, obviously

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

it makes it easier to find them among all the wimpy Wainwright and Carpenter posts

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 21, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

badass

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 21, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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