Three games later, the Cardinals are 0-1
by DanUpBaby on Apr 18, 2010 6:00 AM EDT
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PrintOur Sunday spot is still in flux, so I apologize for an unduly brief front page post after Saturday afternoon (and Saturday night's) interminable action.
It's no more than three or four games a year where a manager's in-game decisions are clearly the major influence on the outcome, and as a result these always take an outsized share of influence on our idea of a manager's value. We talked about that on several occasions in the off-season; I'll link this excerpt we ran from Evaluating Baseball's Managers as representative of that discussion, rather than going into it again.
Suffice it to say that I think Tony La Russa is a great manager, perhaps the best of all time, and I also think that his decision to go to the position players so early, while entertaining, cost the Cardinals a clean shot at a win as the home team in an extra inning game. It's no coincidence that the English language's go-to "can't-win-'em-all" metaphor is the aphorism about the best baseball players making an out seven times out of ten; baseball has the longest games, the longest seasons, the longest careers—the best players and managers have serious failures on their records, and lots of them.
For La Russa, this is one of them. The hitters were very conspicuously absent, of course, and I have no doubt that Duncan and La Russa were both very firm with Mather about avoiding the upper half of the zone, which he did not. But whatever meager resources the Cardinals had last night, La Russa mismanaged them.
What it comes down to, for me, is this: using a pitcher out of the rotation might make him fractionally worse in his next start. I don't know that it will or won't, but we can assume that it will. But in that next start the difference between him and this overworked version of himself is less than the difference between him and Joe Mather, especially when the game becomes sudden-death overtime for the team on the road. The Cardinals had a chance to take advantage of baseball's home-skewed extra-innings system—one in which that hypothetical starter's one inning is vastly more important to the outcome than any one inning he pitches day-after-tomorrow. That's what sucks.
So La Russa, as a hitter, went 0-4 with a couple of strikeouts. As a pitcher it would be one of those five innings four earned-run nights—somebody else still has to lose the game, but he didn't put them in the best position to win. He'll get back out there tomorrow.
After the jump: positivity. Jaime Garcia pitched beautifully, and the game we saw, however frustrating, was the kind of novelty that makes a long season a little shorter. Take a look at this box score—which is broken, in the line score area; nice job, everybody!—and tell me there isn't something worth grinning at (if in a world-weary, I-just-read-Catch-22 kind of way.)
- Jaime Garcia: he's really awesome. Yesterday, in an "I... am not left-handed" moment, Garcia brought out the go-to curveball that he'd been perfectly fine without in his first start and used it to retire right-handed batters who probably do not typically have problems with lefty breaking stuff. But to call this The Curveball Start is to gloss over the long stretches of game during which he needed little more than a fastball and a changeup. Garcia's stuff has never impressed scouts—he's been a Number Three Starter from the day he emerged as a prospect—but he is obviously, visibly confident in it.
- The bullpen: they didn't suck! They were really good, even; in future-closer-watch news, Jason Motte has now gone 4 2/3 innings with four strikeouts since getting beaten up in his first two starts. As someone who has not yet been able to see the Cardinals on TV New Motte is a truly enigmatic figure; his fastball hasn't lost a step, as the two consecutive 97 mph swinging strikes to Jason Bay prove, but rather than work on his second pitch (which he's also begun to use frequently) he's started varying the speed on it, and it appears to be working. Rather than use the capital-F fastball as his only pitch, he seems to have started using it mostly in strikeout counts. For a converted catcher, he's getting pretty smart out there, and it's good to see. McClellan, Boggs, and Hawksworth all staked claims on their spots, as well; altogether the Cardinals' justifiably worrisome right-handers struck out nine batters in eight scoreless innings. Of course, having seen all this great relief work being used up in front of him has to concern Adam Wainwright, a little.
- Yadier Molina! He's the best! After five or six hours in a position that would leave me unable to walk, or rise to a sitting position, Yadier Molina threw out a basestealer and tied the game with a line drive to right field. I'd be excited to see Bryan Anderson play an entire game anyway, but after seven hours he's earned a day off today.
- Dinger-Camp-Watch: No dingers, unfortunately, but the Cardinals did walk 11 times against 69 at-bats on Saturday, without which it would have been impossible to strand a million baserunners.
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Hail Dan
I am impressed you not only watched the entire game but still wrote a post following it.
I feel like the kid whose father caught smoking a cigarette than forced him to smoke a carton afterwords.
We could of used one of these off days now.
he's in Japan
he woke up in mid-game.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that happened to my friend
he never wanted to smoke cigarettes again
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
oh, I has a sad.
"You want to hear something funny?" Ryan said. "Before the game, I said ‘all I want is for you to promise me one thing. If we go 25 innings today, I got the ball, I’m on the mound.’ And he said ‘OK’. We were five innings short. It was pretty much a verbal promise, but we just never got there."
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
:[[[
sad
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 18, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Boog should've called it for the 20th inning!
how epic would that have been.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
ahahaha, and true to form: the doghouse!
Fox:
That honor goes to Cardinals shortstop Brendan Ryan, who asked manager Tony La Russa before the game, “If we go 25 today, am I getting the ball?”
La Russa, according to Ryan, replied, “I’ll give you the ball if we go 25.”
Well, the game didn’t last quite that long — the Cardinals’ final “pitcher,” utility man Joe Mather, lacked his best stuff — but Ryan was clamoring to take the mound, anyway.
“I got in trouble for being vocal about it,” he reported afterward.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
more missives from the man stew
fake blockquote:
I texted a scout with Lopez’s gun readings while the game was in progress. He replied, “Better than Moyer tonight!”
- Ryan saying to Lohse as the pitcher-turned-outfielder spoke to reporters, “Talk about that catch down the line!”
“That was pretty sweet,” Lohse said, referring to his running grab on a ball hit by Luis Castillo in the 20th.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Why Not Bunt???
With no outs and runners on 2nd and 3rd you can bunt twice to try and win the game…
ShagOnSports - "when you speak or write make sure it is something that can improve the silence"
That game was insane
I worked all day yesterday, and it felt like that game was on for at least half of my shift. Which was 14 freaking hours. lol
The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun
lopez
i would have brought lopez in again after mather threw his inning. am i kidding? i don’t know!
I was laughing hysterically when lopez started to get cocky up there and threw an Fing curveball. I think it was literally the coolest thing i’ve ever seen in a baseball game.
or they shoulda just left him in there another inning
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
that curve was freaking awesome.
don’t we all like flippy a little bit more now? gdm…..???
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i certainly do.
He’s grown on me a lot this year.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
he appeared to be having a lot of fun on the mound
and i think his willingness to go out there and pitch puts the “lazy” accusations to rest, at least a little.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
What makes me most upset
is that we hear all this I-respect-the-game stuff from LaRussa, yet he puts two position players on the mound and Lohse in the outfield, pretty much conceding the game just to save Lohse’s arm for his next start.
Funny, the Mets played the same number of innings and I didn’t see Jerry Manuel doing that.
by Michael_68_1999 on Apr 18, 2010 9:08 AM EDT reply actions
well in the harsh light of day
I believe K-Rod’s got dead arm. TLR pretty much said it was “getting dangerous” straining the bullpen any longer. so while it was sucky at the time, I’d rather have our problems today than the Mets’ problems today.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
yes - there are a lot of things worth criticizing, but failing to put a starter in to pitch is not one.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
The Cardinals are prohibitive favorites to win our Division...
At some point this game, while memorable, becomes a question of not using all the bullets or getting someone hurt to win one game in April against a non division foe.
Frankly, I’m perfectly fine with TLR basically conceding this circus in the 18th and doing what he needed to keep us on track for the rest of the hundred and fifty some odd games left in the season. It’s April, not September.
And if we’d have had even ONE clutch hit, it would have been a different ballgame. Tony can’t swing the bats for ’em…
And it was wildly entertaining.
And it still took the Mets three innings to win, against position player pitching.
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by RollBirdsRoll on Apr 18, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i like the
still took the Mets three innings to win, against position player pitching
observation
makes this game so much more hilarious
No clutch hitting
As baffling as TLR’s decisions were, Ludwick and Holliday had at least three chances to drive in a RISP. The lack of offense from this team is starting to concern me.
schumaker fucked up moe than his fair share too later in the game
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 18, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Schu only stranded 3 runners on base.
Holliday stranded 6, Luddy 5, Lopez 4 and Pujols only stranded 1.
You can read it in any tone you like.
I'm a little worried about Holliday
I suppose he’ll snap out of it though
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure he will.
He has 7 years to turn it around.
:)
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 18, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It sounds like he must have a sinus infection or a really nasty virus.
He’ll be fine.
I once had a sinus infection that was so terrible that I was seeing double. A friend had to drive me to the doctor because I couldn’t see straight.
You can read it in any tone you like.
schumaker had a double, a single, and two walks, which put him ahead of everybody but albert.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
if we continue with the strategy of pitchers hitting 4th
albert should be able to blow away the single-season walks record.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
notice I said later in the game, like he when he kept striking out, including when there was no outs and runners on second and third
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 18, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
bummer when he and luddy both k'd there
first base open and the pitcher after pujols. we must have had a 90% chance of winning when schu strolled to the plate.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Agreed re: lack of offense.
Most of the counting stats happened in like 2 games, which helps pad the overall picture. I feel like we’ve seen this movie before.
I was there last night and the folks in my section (LF bleachers) were just seething about Holliday. I really hope that dude starts producing soon because from a public opinion standpoint, I could see things turning ugly for him in a hurry. The dude just signed the richest contract in franchise history as the big prize of this year’s FA crop. Right or wrong, the fans are gonna hold him to a pretty high standard. If he continues like this, teams will NEVER pitch to Albert.
I’m sure it was discussed in the (multiple) game threads, but I was pretty sure there was gonna be a riot when TLR left Motte, a relief pitcher who probably never really even takes batting practice, up there with the bases loaded and 2 outs. He predictably failed to drive in the run and then like 2 innings later, TLR left Hawksworth, a relief pitcher who probably never really even takes batting practice, up there with bases loaded and 2 outs. He, predictably, also failed to drive in the run.
My buddy said “I hope they show this game at La Russa’s HOF induction ceremony.”
Holliday was sick!
he wasn’t supposed to play in the first place. just putting him in there for 5(?) PAs was probably made him worse in the first place.
if we wanna get on him, get on him to wash his hands and use a tissue box, for all the money we’re paying him. even then, if you’ve got young children, you know you’re going to catch everything they catch, so even that’s not a guarantee.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
and he's been sick since the Houston series
number of games he didn’t start: one. and even then he pinch-hit in one of the coldest games thus far.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I get it...he's sick, he's not himself, etc.
But then why keep running him out there? We’ve seen this before where Tony continues to play a guy when there’s something obviously off with him (whether it’s injury, lingering injury, hidden injury, denied injury, or just ineffectiveness).
I could be wrong, but I doubt they gave him the richest contract in team history to “play through it” or whatever hyper-masculine crap is the norm in sports. We want him to be a stud outfielder who mashes behind Albert. If he’s not right, let him get healthy. Sit him for a week if that’s what it takes, but don’t repeatedly put an ineffective guy (for whatever reason) in a situation to fail and then act surprised when fans seem upset.
Cards fans have seen this movie too many times before and Holliday is making an obscene amount of money. I don’t fault any fan who’s completely disappointed in the first two weeks of our new expensive acquisition.
again, I think you are missing the point
a strained oblique is not the same as a cold/flu bug. these guys are elite athletes, yes — which only means they can play sick and still put up a positive contribution.
IMO this is rather close to demanding that these guys should not be human just because they’re being paid a lot of money. It’s 162 games! I’m sorry the one game you saw sucked.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
(well... mathwise... 163 and change.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
If he has a head cold
it’s going to take a whole hell of a lot of time for that to clear up.
Massive head = massive head cold.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
He's a Lego man
Pop it off and put a new one on.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on Apr 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
have you ever tried to prise something out of those things?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, actually I have.
That’s why there’s a Lego store to buy spare parts.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I don't think we can afford those fancy parts.
all that grit must be getting in
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Thought that's why they got rid of Miles?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
he's not a lego man
he’s just pure grit.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Right...letting Miles walk reduces clubhouse grit
But like sand, I guess you can never get rid of all of it.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
probably spreading the grit around
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate it when ...
… grit gets in my buttcrack.
by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Apr 19, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
and I think you are missing MY point.
Look at the thread. There’s really nothing I said to suggest that I demand “that these guys should not be human just because they’re being paid a lot of money.”
Look at the context of this whole thing. My point, which I think you missed, was that there’s a bunch of things going on right now. Taken together, and given our club’s recent history with trotting out injured/ineffective guys and then being salty about it when fans seem upset, all I said was that “I don’t fault any fan who’s completely disappointed in the first two weeks” of Matt Holliday."
I wasn’t trying to be argumentative and/or shitty, but apparently you’re all set to go in that direction, given your lovely little “I’m sorry the one game you saw sucked” comment.
lesee
you said: But then why keep running him out there? We’ve seen this before where Tony continues to play a guy when there’s something obviously off with him (whether it’s injury, lingering injury, hidden injury, denied injury, or just ineffectiveness).
…
We want him to be a stud outfielder who mashes behind Albert. If he’s not right, let him get healthy.
I said: a strained oblique is not the same as a cold/flu bug. these guys are elite athletes, yes — which only means they can play sick and still put up a positive contribution.
Thus: A positive contribution is not your stud super outfielder, but it is still a positive contribution. It does not render him 100% ineffective, like say an oblique strain.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I am really not sure how much more I can possibly address your comments
if you insist that I am being “shitty and argumentative.” Calm down.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
and once again, I am sorry you expect players' two-week slumps to translate to a wholly disappointing 7 year contract.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
can i ask what this "recent history" with injuries is for clarification?
cause with the exception of Albert Pujols who doesn’t really count, I feel like I’m missing something
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
matt holliday
has an .835 OPS and a .265 BABIP
i’m not disappointed
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
check that
.258 BABIP
that’s almost .100 points lower than his career average
calm down
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
league average is .300 right?
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
would it be higher for holliday though because he bats with a good average
consistently
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and far
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
line drives are good
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
"I don’t fault any fan who’s completely disappointed in the first two weeks’ of Matt Holliday’s MVP-level production."
fixed your post.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Over-react much?
Holliday has a .413 wOBA. .311 batting average. 3 homers in a fortnight. .367 OBP. .578 SLG. And he’s fielded fine so far. If he continues like that the whole year, he’s an MVP candidate. And he wasn’t even healthy that game.
Best fans in the f’ing game….
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions
remember that leadoff double
from Schu to start the game? And he never advanced past 2nd? Blame that, above all else, for all the shenanigans yesterday.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Oquendo's fault, IMHO
I’ve not been happy with the secret weapon’s 3rd base coaching of the runners for a while. APu consistently runs through his stop signs. Granted, APu is aggressive to the extreme. He does such nice work with the infielders, though. He is also good at motivating pitchers from P.R.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
+1 on P.R. motivating
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
how was it
secret weapons fault? I don’t remember full details, but that was when Luddy attempted to bunt him over and failed. Do not recall what Albert or Holliday did though.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
it's as fresh in my mind as if it only happened yesterday
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
You are right, I was not referring to buntwick
I was referring to Skip’s double which Francour? bobbled. Skip went past 2nd and had to put on his brakes. The ball was hit in deep right field near the corner. It would have taken an Ank arm to nail Skip, IMHO.
From the comfort of my lazyboy, I often get irritated with Oquendo for not sending the runner home from 2nd base post single, or allowing players to take an extra base. Maybe this is due to camera angles and a distorted tv perspective. I don’t know. But Al always says that Oquendo is the most aggressive 3rd base coach in sending player. I hear that and say to myself, “Really?” I think we need to be more creative in trying to squeeze out runs in other fashion.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
i didn't see the play
but in regards to francouer, iirc, he has an ank arm.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ank arm
with accuracy. Frenchy’s arm is widely regarded as THE BEST in the business.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I stand corrected then
There is no sense in running into an out in that situation with no outs.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
yeah
he has an absolute cannon. If there’s one thing he can’t be criticised for, it’s that.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions
game management
agree that tlr did not approach the game strategy correctly. the home team has a huge advantage in extra innings, even when they are not playing the mets. the odds of winning that game were very good compared to a random start for kyle loshe, if we used pitchers to pitch. if lohse pitched like pelfry, we would have likely won the game. sit loshe and bring in a memphian to cover that start, if he can’t go. going to floppy and mather was just plain giving up, and no real excuse for it.
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
If anything lost it for us
It was Ludwick’s need to play Joe thurston
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 9:43 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I really didn't get the steal there.
Was it a hit and run or straight steal? I mean, that was the whole thing about hitting in front of Albert…i.e., you NEVER get to steal because you don’t wanna take RBI opportunities out of his hands.
He swung like it turned in to a hit and run
But his face indicated it wasn’t supposed to be
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And I didn't like his attempt to go home after that
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
*before
Mental typo
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 9:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it was supposed to be a DP
he was just running it out. then reyes got taken out at second and couldn’t make the throw to first
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
wasnt much of a takeout
he bobbled the exchange and decided not to throw
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
Fear of the maching
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
it was clearly a missed hit and run
I can’t believe people are trying to debate that.
Ludwick should be on the hook for not paying attention to the game when he pulled a Suppan going around 3rd base but not for getting caught on the hit and run. It’s not his fault that Tony called for it or that Albert swung and missed. That’s the problem w/ the hit and run in the first place.
i don't even blame him for that
it should have been a routine double play, but reyes couldn’t turn it
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
I wish he would've committed.
He hesitated turning 3rd and once around 3rd. If he’d committed, I think there would’ve been a play at the plate, and maybe Luddy scores. It was just tough.
You can read it in any tone you like.
Tony said it was a hit and run.
He blamed Ludwick’s slide for the out. Said he should’ve just slid straight into Reyes rather than trying to avoid the tag.
You can read it in any tone you like.
fixed
He blamed Ludwick’s slide for the out. Said he should’ve just slid straight into Reyes Castillo rather than trying to avoid the tag.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
I absolutely hate the hit-and-run
I think there’s a place for base-stealing, bunting the guy over, the squeeze, and all those other small-ball plays, but I just cannot stand the fucking hit-and-run. Unfortunately it seems to be the one play that TLR likes to call again and again. I just don’t see the point in it when you’ve got a really potent offense. We’ve got 5 or 6 above-average hitters. We don’t need to nullify their effectiveness by making them swing at any old crap and running into outs.
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree,
at least when the batter is named Pujols or Holliday, maybe there’s a place for it with some other hitters, but less often than TLR likes to call it.
by ArkansasTravs on Apr 19, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
with molina batting i have no problem with it
but yeah, not with pujols or holliday.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i assumed that was the same thing that happened with craig's CS - lopez was on the hit-and-run but couldn't
make contact.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
it was a hit and run
apu swung feebly at a pitch out of the zone
and luddy looked back half way to second
if he had not looked back, in easy
and we win
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
Luddy did blow it multiple times
somewhere in there, there was a bunt attempt….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
the idea that Luddy was asked to bunt
still blows my mind. That’s probably a worse idea than asking him to try to steal against the yadi-like arm of Blanco.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
biggest mistake i thought by tlr.
Not calling squeeze when we got lucky with Guy on 2 and 3 and no outs. If it failed we still would’ve had gone twenty innings but at least would’ve been exciting
by ADMDrayson on Apr 18, 2010 9:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I wouldn't say it wasn't exciting
It was fun as hell to watch but there were obviously incorrect moves made and we always want to win. It was still very entertaining.
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
one problem with a squeeze call
is that first base is open so the Mets could have pitched out if they sniffed it out – still, I probably would have done it
yes, that was the big mistake of the game
even a failed squeeze leaves you with a runner in scoring position and one out. It was a free squeeze attempt.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I dunno
we just need one of our two best hitters to make some vague contact with the ball that isn’t straight at a fielder, or hit ANY flyball into the OF there. With two chances at it. I guess I could go either way on that one.
For all that the national media seem to claim that Tony loves the squeeze play, I haven’t seen him do it in ages (at all, in fact, that I can remember in the last 2 or 3 years). If anything, I’d say he’s quite averse to it now…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I don't remember much of it since Eckstein was on the team, really.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I turned the game off going into the bottom of the 12th
because I wanted to watch a movie (and I just couldn’t watch any more offensive ineptitude). The movie went almost 2 and a half hours and I was just a little surprised to find out the game was still going. It was top of the 19th when I turned it back on.
Also the way we lost it, LaRussa
Showed the players he was conceding for the good of the season. Even if, as we mentioned, and I fully agree, that was the wrong thing to do, atleast it keeps from this being a mentally heartbreaking loss for the players
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 9:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
You wonder if TLR would have played to win
If anyone other than Garcia started the game and Garcia was available to pitch in relief?
I wonder whether he would have shown some flexibility with Garcia and allowed him to get extended work in the extras rather than go to Lopez/Mather.
What I think irks a lot of us here is the fact that we were going to Lopez before the Mets had even used their All-Star closer—it was basically saying, “our bullpen is too specialized to pitch in long games—we concede.”
specialized bullpen
I guess I am trying to find the silver lining in the loss. I am feeling a bit more positive about our bullpen. It looks like all the parts are being used and that all the parts have purpose. I shudder at the thought of the days when we had to stash a Puppykicker or a Colonel in the bullpen because we didn’t know what to do with them.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
the other annoying thing
is that we have at least 3 guys in our pen who are/have been conditioned to start. No reason why Hawk, KMac or Boggs couldn’t have thrown 3 innings there. One of them should probably have been left back in the pen as the last arm, then we could’ve ridden them for a while. My preference would probably have been Hawksworth.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions
TLR made some of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen
Going back to what gocards62 and sportsman said, game management and Holliday/Lud did not go well. But what I think killed the game was TLR’s decision to bat the pitcher with the bases loaded – twice. It’s really too bad that Waino wasn’t a pinch hitter in either one of those times, because even though he’s a pitcher, Waino can hit. I didn’t exactly understand why TLR stuck with the pitcher in those cases, and I probably never will.
I’m not sure why TLR felt like conceding that game, because that would’ve been a big morale boost to the team. Now, this loss is gonna hurt the team a little bit. I just hope that if we found ourselves in a similar situation again (maybe not as dramatic), that Tony wouldn’t do something near as stupid. But knowing TLR’s tendencies, chances are he’d do it again.
Which again is why
I’m more upset at losing to Bud F. Norris than this one.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
as much as I want to go with the morale argument
listen and read to the team reactions. they weren’t bummed at all. they were upbeat, proud of each other, and gelling as a team. I was worried about the same thing, but these are check-able anecdotes.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
^listen to and read
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
TLR strategy was a time-tested strategy
That I sometimes used against my little brother playing video games growing up. For example, if my brother used one of the best teams in a sports game against me, I might use one of the worst. If I succeeded with that rag-tag team, all the better for me and all the more humiliating for him. If I lost, well, congrats, you just beat an outmanned club.
LaRussa did the same thing when he batted the pitchers with the bases loaded and went to the position players early. It would have been absolutely soul-crushing for the Mets to lose that game (given that Santana started against the Cards #5), while it was morally a win when the team tied it up off K-Rod.
by olddomination on Apr 18, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I prefer real wins
to moral ones.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, all the players seemed to appreciate what they went through.
I think Mather said it, “this is why you play the game”. It was fun and a super challenge and they went through it as a “Team”. Albert said it was fun. Loshe was talking about how nervous he was when the first fly ball came out to left field.
listen to the audio on the Globe Democrat site.
Lopez's curveballs are always a morale boost
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 10:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we needed a towel.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't intend or that to sound perverse at all
But that is absolutely why she said
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 10:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I am so sad that there's no pitch f/x for Lopez.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they cut out the curveball, IIRC.
jerks.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
before that
he needlessly burned a position player when he had Mather hit for Rasmus in the 9th (I believe). Maybe w/ Mather still on the bench, he’d have been able to hit for the pitcher in the 12th.
Also, it didn’t help that La Russa absolutely refused to have a reliever pitch 2 full innings.
Absolutely right
Starting with Boggs, number of pitches:
M. Boggs – 22
T. Miller – 12
J. Motte – 25
D. Reyes – 15
B. Hawksworth – 38
R. Franklin – 18
I guess I can understand not have the lefty specialists not pitch more early on since we know righties will kill them, but at the point in which Franklin entered the game, there’s no reason why he couldn’t have thrown another inning.
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
Tony talked in his interview like Franklin wasn't even available today. It was weird.
You can read it in any tone you like.
Oh boy, better get Floppy warmed up
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
Oh boy.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
2 words
Closer. Controversy.
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
facetious comment at mets site:
“at least we’re just going against wainwright tonight and not lopez.”
haha, just wait.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
tonight's game
is either going to go an hour and a half or 30 innings
all i really want it to see boog pitch in a major league game
make it happen
i think he'd generally be the first to get the call
unfortunately for him, he had wrist surgery and i don’t think they’ll risk him popping something in there for awhile yet.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah, that occurred to me too. (except it seems Joe's wrist is not as important as Brendan's wrist. hmmmm!)
still. imagine the sh*-talking.
“I got to pitch two innings and you didn’t.”
“Oh yeah? You got the loss. Two runs, that’s weak. Weak!”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
mather is his left wrist, though
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Get out of my head, braintwin.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
This would make for an excellent episode of Bombs and Boog.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
when is this going to happen
in claymation?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i prefer robot chicken
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'll call the folks
at Aardman on Monday.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
btw, got a kick out of mather's sponsored page
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Thx
his site has been really helpful, so it was a good opportunity to donate a few bucks.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
oh yeah
it was the right hand, right?
regardless, i really don’t think tony will ever allow that, wrist surgery or not
but just imagine the pure entertainment value
oh, i think tony loves to be entertained
evident the wash!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
are you entertained!!!!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
all true, and i somewhat agree, but what is the point of criticizing tlr for not managing his bullpen
so he would have fresh pitchers for the 20th inning? It’s such an outlier of a game, there’s really no point.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 18, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not too upset about not pinch-hitting for Hawksworth
Considering that we got two more innings out of a real pitcher that way. I suspect the odds of winning in the bottom half of those two innings was greater than pinch-hitting on that occasion.
In other words, we’d have had position players pitching two innings sooner if we had pinch hit for Hawksworth.
unless we got a hit, of course
the idea is to NOT extend the game. had anderson’s ph failed, then i could see throwing in the towel and putting lopex/mather out there. but to do so without having first tried to actually end the game…twice…i’m still in a daze.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think most managers use their players for a nine inning game
Thus the lack of available players deep in extra innings.
I also suspect that the intent (partially) was not to put Anderson in pinch-hitting in a pressure situation like that. Not that he didn’t later on when Hawksworth was used up…
And he had a greater pressure situation later when there wasn't a runner on third and fewer outs.
You can read it in any tone you like.
i was at the game to the end
i coud say a lot about it, but the strangest thing to me was that after 20 innings and 7 hours, there was a scheduled event for kids to run the bases. a fair amount of the 10,000 or so fans left at the end had little ones there. i can only dream to be that good of a parent one day.
Yeah
I can’t imagine how those kids felt when they finally went to play.
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 10:39 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
oh man, someone's got to have covered that....
I gotta google this *.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
according to fox, they played the game
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
am skeptical........
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if it went into extras
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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
they're still playing
cards could be delayed tonite.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
"Let them play! Let them play!"
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I'm texting my sister to ask.
She goes to O’Fallon.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 18, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
It happened
As did the Kids running the bases.
Y2S noted it below.
The game legend grows.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
it was hell to find, though.
I quote the tweets a lot, but I hate it when they’re the primary source.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I knew it happened.
I was fishing for results.
Word is O’Fallon won, not sure the score.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 18, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Fun game, Tough loss
I watched every excrutiating minute of the game as a Cards fan in Queens, NY. Mistakes aplenty, sure, but it was fun. It hurt that Lopez and Mather were put in and I have to believe that a somewhat fungible commodity like Hawk could have been pushed further, but, in not doing so, LaRussa put the good of his players (Hawk, Lohse, Franklin, Holliday, etc.) in front of the team. Bottom line, while that might suck as random dude in Queens who has committed 7 hours to the game, it is good for the players on his team. He did the right thing in that regard (if not in all other during the game).
Similar to McGwire, LaRussa is physically unable to say “In hindsight the hit/run was a bad move” or “Maybe all 15 double switcheroos were not necessary,”, but dude, I have my idiosynchrasies and faults as well so I’m not going to get upset. I enjoyed the game…
-K
I was excited to see Franklin pitch a scoreless inning myself
by olddomination on Apr 18, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
As was I.
But, nowhere near as excited as I was after Lopez’s scoreless inning!
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Apr 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Or the bench's
I still wish he’d K’d someone.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
What is that Jaime's pitch?
The one he throws low to the outside corner. It looks to me that it actually moved away from RH. It looks almost like a lefty screw ball. That pitch is filthy. I watched Wright flail at it a few times yesterday.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
I started laughing for no reason
oh wait. David Wright.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
That's what made it impressive
Wright’s a pretty good hitter (but do not compare him to APu, you WWL morons) which makes it more amazing.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
and holy cow, JAIME vs. Santana, are you kidding?
the kid did great. it’s just all a blur….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I think that was the Mets site that thought Wright was worth Pujols
but I get your point. :D
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I thought the pitch to Wright
was a change but maybe Jamie has morphed into Fernando Valenzuela.
ATG, it was a change
The way he throws it could make it “back up” like a screwball.
This space for lease. Contact within.
That could be it
I thought it was harder than a change. I’ll have to check pitch FX
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Whatever it was
that pitch was an absolute thing of beauty.
I think it's a change
AFAIK he only throws FB, CH, CU.
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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 5:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know if this was mentioned yet or not...
But what’s the difference in injury risk between putting Lohse in left and warming him up/having him pitch?
Is it more of a “I don’t want to throw off his routine” thing?
risk is unknown.
But i believe its more of an “I don’t want to throw him off of his routine” thing. Pitchers shag fly balls in spring training. And it looks like Lohse was paying attention. Would have been great if he was able to gun down Ramirez at the plate.
I still don't get
if it’s a day like this, where it’s the 8th and it’s scoreless or whatever, why not call on the starter who is supposed to throw a side session to not do that, and, in essence, throw their side session on the mound?
I know that they’re not the same thing, and that side session throws are not at 100% and pitchers are looking to work on things, but we are talking about a game where the deciding runs were twice given up by Joe Mather.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Probably true
but maybe they shouldn’t? Look for every advantage and all.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Throwing side sessions late at night?
Especially for West Coast games?
First thought is no, but interesting thought.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Yeah, there would probably have to be exceptions
and yes, that isn’t what side sessions are really for—I don’t want Kyle Lohse experimenting with his splitter in the middle of a gametime situation. But it’s a thought at least for disasters like this—have them do it during the game, at least during day games, and hold them in reserve if it is looking close.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
It would have to be one of those organizational wide moves
Pitchers are prissy creatures of habit.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
not ours
a few days with Carpenter…. he’ll cure them of that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
one of the best images of the game
Motte being called back, and Carp giving him a different bat, plus coaching. Motte looked more scared of Carp than hitting….
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Carp's instruction?
One word: Samsonite
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
by TBender on Apr 18, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think he replaced Motte's bat w/paper mache
and when he saw that he was actually going to the plate, swapped it out for a real one.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 18, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
given that these assets are worth tens of millions of dollars...however small the risk is...
is probably not worth losing one game (that you might have lost anyway). None of us would ever think of sending Carp out there, even if we knew it would cost us the game. In that same vein, even if other pitchers haven’t had the same injury problems carp has had, all pitchers carry increased risks of injury when they do things outside their routines.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 18, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
from the Fox gnome
fake blockquote
Lohse also threw a bullpen session Saturday, and La Russa was mindful of protecting him.
“I almost had a heart attack when he threw the ball in from left field,” La Russa said.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
If only I could find a highlight
of that Curveball that Lopez fired off. Im not sure he threw it for a strike, but just showing the mets hitters an uncle charlie had to stun them a little bit.
that was great
he was facing Perez. Who he hit the home run off of on Friday when he throw that. Perez just barely got a piece of it.
thats right!
now if we can get mather to learn a sinker or something we might have the best 1-7 rotation in the majors!
Mather appeared to be
closing his front side a little too much. Needed to adjust the mechanics and land a little more toward 1st base so he would stop missing up and in to righties. I thought he was going to Aaron Rowand someone.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
McCarver nearly died.
…. no comment.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
as much as this game frustrated Cards fans
I can only imagine how embarrassed Mets fans must be by their hapless team. Shut out by Felipe Lopez. Jason Bay, their $70 million dollar man, swinging through 76 mph straight as an arrow fastballs thrown by an infield utility player. They only managed 2 runs in 2 innings off Joe Mather, who threw 24 of 38 pitches for balls.
and manuel actually had their 2-hitter bunt against mather and his 78 mph fastball
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
one of which was caught by a left-fielder named lohse
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hahahaha
when you put it like this, it really wasn’t such a bad loss, after all.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
BTW
anyone know what the odds that Franklin would have throw a second scoreless inning? Mather kept them to one run per inning. I don’t see Franklin doing that.
How much of Franklin going 1 inning
was due to wanting to use him today? That would be 3 innings in 3 days. Manuel apparently wore out K-Rod by having him warm up a couple of times.
Wainwright going 7-8 is possible, leaving the rest for some combination of Reyes/Miller/Franklin.
This space for lease. Contact within.
To be clear
Franklin pitching tonight would be 3 in 3. Pitching 2 yesterday would have been 3 in 2.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Bender, you're assuming
that tonight’s game will only go 9 innings. Better watch that!!
HA!
Playing the odds, that’s all. :)
Plus Maine is pitching for the Mets. Unless he starts throwing lefty, the Birds should be ok.
I apologize now for the 1-0 Mets win in 15.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i'm amazed the entire team fit into the dugout.
Penny. Reyes. Holliday’s head.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
there's an overhead rack.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
they're working on installing that
for his head. he’s new, and all.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Too cute
TLR out-foxed himself with his implementation of the vaunted double-switch. How is that a strategic thinker who maps out his rotation weeks in advance could not see the folly in using his final double-switch and placing the (relief) pitcher’s spot behind Pujols? What makes it worse is his past obsession with “protection” for Pujols. TLR clearly did not foresee that eventuality and It was perhaps a game-losing blunder.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Apr 18, 2010 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
That was my only gripe...
How the pitcher’s spot wound up behind Pujols.
by Ghostrider520 on Apr 18, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Testing moving Pujols to 8th slot for tonight.
He’s not walking enough.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
tony is pissed the pirates russell getting ink for batting the pitcher 8th
“well i’ll just bat relievers 4th” and stomps his feet. it was a perfect choice in that respect, because it cannot be topped.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Brooks Kieschnick was pleased.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
He wanted to make sure there were 7 guys
Who could get on ahead of Albert intead of just 2.
And in all fairness by the end of the game the left fielder was batting 4th
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He wanted to make sure there were 7 guys
Who could get on ahead of Albert intead of just 2.
And in all fairness by the end of the game the left fielder was batting 4th
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Damn double posting
The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore
by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 18, 2010 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm replying to the second post, but it's also relevant to the first:
cardinals have nearly 30 mil tied up in left-field cleanup hitters.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 18, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I totally agree with your comment about the double switch with Holliday
And here’s what’s really funny. When Tony was interviewed after the game he kept defending it. He kept saying Holliday couldn’t go any longer. What else was he going to do, double switch Ludwick? Holliday had given everything he could, etc. etc. etc.
It never occurred to him that you don’t have to double switch when you take a player out of the game. SHEESH
novel concept, a straight switch
did you see what manuel said when asked by reporters after the game what would happen if he’d sent relievers to bat in an extra-inning home game with bases loaded TWICE. “you know what would happen,” he said.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
beat himself at his own game
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I hadn't seen these before
Pretty interesting. Thanks for passing them along.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Apr 18, 2010 12:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
if they can put in good innings totals, its our team's greatest asset
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
according to this
Garcia’s specialty is his third pitch
cause he’s not good at getting ahead, but he jumps to A+ when it comes to getting 2 of first 3 pitches for strikes
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
impressive stuff
what’s KC….
it said he had 3 Ks and 2 KCs….. anyone know this?
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
oooh that makes sense
i thought he had more than three strikeouts
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe you add the two?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
thanks mr. obvious
i was commenting that without the 2 backwards, i was surprised he had only 3….
"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.
by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 18, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
it is almost worth it
to hear Tim Kurkjian’s voice break like that.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so with this monstrosity of a game last night
are we out of the small sample size area?
and if we are – we kind of find ourselves in bizarro cardinals land – where we’re all of a sudden not worried about any of the pitching, but totally worried about the hitting..
i wonder why tlr didn’t give boog the chance to pitch – he has some background, right? why did he go with mather, can anyone explain this to me?
i’m just glad i’m not still watching that game – although our manager lost it for us, at least the agony is over
see first couple of comments
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Apr 18, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno... I got up early to put it in the beginning...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that game definitely helped with that though
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Mather said he pitched in high school
He said his control wasn’t any good there either. In fact he said he pitched better last night. :)
the more i think about last night's game
the more entertained i am
i’m gonna have to download it if i can get my hands on it
it would be great for a veb day afterparty with drinks and snacks
And drinks and snacks
And drinks and snacks…
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Do we have to have MORE drinks and snacks?
Seriously though – as cool as that experience was (and I only saw a few innings at a bar early on) – I never want to watch that whole game again. Condensed game? Sure.
You can read it in any tone you like.
I just discovered the mlb.tv condensed game feature
it’s pretty hilarious that I am watching that game in 14 minutes on there. I got to see Garcia’s pitches now, and the amazing catch by Trevor Miller and the Mets dude that dove into the stands. good stuff
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions
Did the same thing
And I noticed that Albert and Yadi were so jazzed in the 19th about tying it up, stinks that we couldn’t pull off the victory.
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
yeah
they were super happy
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
how much correlation is there to a pitcher who throws slower to less home runs?
that one guy absolutely blasted that Mather pitch but it didn’t even make it to the warning track… I’ve heard before that it’s easier to hit a home run if you connect on a fastball pitcher…. could make sense if you are trying to prevent a home run to use someone who pitches really slowly
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions
I’d guess from a theoretical standpoint, being able to use the pitches own inertia against itself can generate much…easier, power. This is mostly where Albert’s power comes from, I think. A compact, contact swing that uses the pitch against itself.
Where it’d be much easier to ‘muscle’ a slower pitch out of the park than a 95 mph heater, it would still require more than simply putting the bat squarely on the ball. I say that like either one is especially easy, heh.
Timing of a normal 90mph pitch
vs a 60-70mph pitch probably has more to do with it than the velocity.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
That pronounciation I can understand
The Latin transliteration of the Greek messes up so many names.
But why is Lohse’s name pronounced as a “sh”? I am mildly dyslexic, so it makes sense for me to pronounce it that way.
Since I raised the subject, Jaime’s name is constantly mispronounced. The ending vowel is a long a and not a long e.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Betty gives up seven earned runs without recording an out.
That’s not playoff quality, Nats!
by notmorganfreeman on Apr 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
10 runs on
6 hits and 3 walks and 2 HBP
Nice.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
in one inning?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Si.
Marquis only gave up 7 on 4 H, 1 BB, and 2 HBP
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
yeah, that's bad enough
i was just wondering how he was allowed to finish the inning – obviously he wasn’t.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
questions answered! legends grown! marvels and myths to astound you! your 2010 Saint Louis Cardinals, everyone!
- BJRains They had kids run the bases day and a high school game scheduled for after the Cards game….they did both, despite the game ending after 10 about 1 hour ago via Seesmic
- BJRains When I left the stadium about 1am last night, the high school game was still going on…summed up the day perfectly. about 1 hour ago via Seesmic
- JohnMarecek TLR: If Ankiel were still here, he would have asked him if he wanted to pitch…..That would have been awesome #stlcards about 2 hours ago via Seesmic
- JohnMarecek TLR: had a plan for Anderson to catch, Yadi to 3B, and Lopez to the mound. Chance to win w/ Anderson PH changed plan. #stlcards about 2 hours ago via Seesmic
- JohnMarecek TLR: Yadi will catch tonight, if he’s up to it. #stlcards about 3 hours ago via Seesmic
- JohnMarecek TLR: Both LHP should be available, along with Boggs, motte and Franklin. #stlcards about 3 hours ago via Seesmic
- JohnMarecek TLR: No roster move today. #stlcards about 3 hours ago via Seesmic
- dgoold #Cardinals mgr La Russa concedes he invited “a problem” by double-switching Holliday out in the 1tth inning http://bit.ly/9Pv9GI #stlcards about 4 hours ago via bit.ly
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Don't do it Yadier!
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i hope yadi doesn't play
that’s crazy. you aren’t as young as you used to be yadi and knees have limits. let anderson take this one.
"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy
that's insane
hmmm…i wouldn’t mind seeing him at third, though…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
It worked for Zeile and Torre
/kidding
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
I don't think I have emotional reactions left.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i expected to see yadi, holliday, and luddy all on the bench
but double-switched into the game in the pitcher’s spot as the game progressed into the later innings, like the 12th on…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i was at the game till the end as well
couple of observations:
first off it got very cold in that stadium in the last few innings. temp dropped from 65 to 51 over the span of the game.
i was real pissed at Tony. first for double switching us into mediocrity. I mean, he made a double switch every chance he got. we get it tony, its a neat little trick you can play because the pitcher just got out. the novelty wears off after the fourth time. i kept wondering how nice it would be to still have you #4 hitter still in there like the mets did.
calling all the hit and runs (or steals if you like) was a clear version of bad Tony overmanaging. one early in the game with lopez hitting ending in the strike em out, throw em out and then the attempt with ludwick in the 19th when they were actually finally pitching to pujols. if luddy stays there its a tie game in a couple of pitches with a chance to win.
at least i was having fun by that point. when lopez starting pitching the game got awesome and when mather came out for his second innings i was going crazy. i still wish skip and his cannon would have been allowed to pitch. or if rasmus was still in the game. i can only imagine such wonderful images.
"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy
yeah
I thought skip shoulda replaced mather
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
WTF
Joe Mauer just invaded by PC.
Apparently I needed to see him hit a single.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
my PC, that is
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
is he dreamy?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
A little startling, but sure, he's dreamy.
Morneau just walked with the bases loaded.
Still loaded, nobody out., top 1st.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Related note.
I’ve just learned how to pronounce Hochevar.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
It is, according to the Twins announcing crew.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
good
I wonder if KC has a funny nickname for him. I think I’ll just call him “the hoe shaver”
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
And Ankiel casually catches a ball in the gap
Inning over.
And that concludes the Mauer dream sequence.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i actually prefer to call him dreamy joe
because although I can spell “Mauer”, some part of me firmly believes that I cannot.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Technically that 7 out of 10 thing should be changed to, "The best hitters make an out six times out of ten," now that we've made the jump to OBP.
"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible
should've never been 7/10
imho, for the reason you stated.
"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum
or in Albert's case
5.5 times out of ten
/was thinking the same thing when I read that
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Ank watch
.964 OPS
.308 ISO
.346 BABIP though
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
one of my hopes on the season is he's the royals representative at the all-star game
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
that would be freakin weird
and super awesome at the same time
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
doin better than glaus, miles or kaheel
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
K%: 28.6
Even higher than last year.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
heh
yeah, he’s batting over .300 but his obp isn’t too much higher than that
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
luckily I have a bye week in my fantasy league
will be dropping him tonight.
NOCAYFT
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
At least we'll always have the interview of Glenn Close with Mike Shannon
For those who missed it, here’s the basic feel…
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 18, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions
the concurrent comments
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/4/17/1427514/mets-v-cardinals-game-10-april-17#34991639
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i hope that line shannnon stunned her with is in there:
“jimmy piersall now he really capitalized on his mental illness, heh heh heh…wrote a book, made a movie…hehehehehehehe.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
according to will leitch
Listening to Mike Shannon talk to Glenn Close is like French farce. “So, why’s your name Glenn?”
"on gameday it says duke loves to face the four seamer and hates to face the four seamer" -VolsnCards5
"perhaps it's a computer joke about the duality of man." -tom s.
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd liek yoru guys comments in the
fanpost about announcers…who would you rather have
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
i know you were enjoying it like i, but did you happen to dream about it?
we had tied it up in the 20th because luddy walked and the mets pitched to pujols with lohse on deck.
cut to the dugout, and shannon is in full uniform. he’s waiting by the runway with a bud in his hand when glenn close emerges. also in full uniform, she asks mike to help her with the top button, and he obliges as he tells her to just be calm and throw strikes. he also mumbles something drunkenly about wanting to kiss her.
you realize she’s taking the mound for the 21st, but this totally makes sense because she’d already warmed up by throwing out the first pitch, she can presumably act like a pitcher, and she was in the natural. so, as a fan you exhale a bit, knowing your team is in good hands.
as she bounds up the stairs to take the field mike gooses her butt, says “go get ’em, kid.” you sense the long national nightmare is about to be over. but then she turns to smile coquettishly at mike and her face has transformed into todd wellemeyer.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 18, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for "coquettishly"
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
true fact, san francisco - felipe lopez pitches better than todd wellemeyer.
reason #263 why you should have signed him while you had the chance.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
do you need some evil laughter to go with this comment?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
why not? evil laughter follows about 80% of my comments anyway.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
sorry I left you hangin' there.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
mwahahahahahaha
/rubs hands together mischeviously
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
during everygame
we comment on annoucners…i posted a fanpost on it here…. http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/4/14/1422314/espn-sunday-night-baseball-spot
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
Fail
here…http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/4/18/1429246/this-guy-annoys-me
This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers
I'm not going to over analyze last nights game,
second guess decisions made, or debate picks already nitted. I’m just going to appreciate all of the randomness it took for that precise series of events to occur and save it in the back of my mind for a smile, come some cold early January afternoon in 2011 when I miss baseball.
it was funny weird and unique
a loser, but likeable
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
you've been in chicago too long........
that sounds suspiciously…..
oh I should say no more.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah
I think I need to get out of here, been here since january 1997
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
some fangraphs movement yesterday
ryan franklin is now fourth in the league (for relievers) in wpa.
jaime garcia is now fifth in the league (for starters) in wpa.
brad penny is now fourth in the league (for starters) in fastball mph.
small sample size FTW!
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions
lohse is in left
seriously though, people keep saying this despite the fact he has pitched well, especially considering that strike zone he dealt with in his first start.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah, the whole rotation has actually pitched well
it’s the bats that need to get going.
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i know!
if only we can get kyle lohse going
that 3.09 FIP is just not going to cut it, kyle
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Apr 18, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
we had him going last night!
running all over the place!
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
this is excessive twitter posting but... hey, it's Old Hoss.
- T. La Russa: “O Wise Counselor, should I remove Holliday?” D. Duncan: “You should…” TLR: “Not you!” Magic 8 Ball: “Signs point to yes.” about 18 hours ago via Echofon
- Gad, but I hated 17-inning affairs. They mildly strained my arm. And the time! Two hours is just too long for a base ball match. about 17 hours ago via Echofon
- Not sure which is longer, this Mets/Cardinals contest or the interminable “Meet Joe Black” on “HBO.” about 17 hours ago via Echofon
- A real nostalgic treat to see the super-utility “short stop/third base man/relief pitcher” make a return appearance to the game. about 17 hours ago via Echofon
- Just got a call from T. La Russa. I’m supposed to warm up to start the 19th. Oddly enough, I’m to get switched to right field immediately. about 17 hours ago via Echofon
- In my day the team’s Kangaroo Court would sentence “Studwick” to death by firing squad for his piffly stolen base attempt and slide. about 16 hours ago via Echofon
- T. La Russa: “Base ball is like chess. And I am a master tactician. Check mate!” 7-year-old: “But we are playing Connect Four, sir.” about 16 hours ago via Echofon
- Well, on the bright side, M. Holliday will be fresh and spritely for tonight’s game. He will be the closer. about 5 hours ago via Echofon
- For some reason Hoss does not think B. Bissinger’s next opus, “One Horrendously Long Night in April” will sell very well. about 2 hours ago via Echofon
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
7 & 9 are sig worthy.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions
However, my reply fail is not.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
However, my reply fail is not.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And a double post.
Why, I haven’t been this SBN’d in quite a while.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
that works
but she’s not in character
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
on another positive note
it is nice to hear albert being genuinely excited about being on the team
maybe we should arrange another 20 inning game close to when his contract is about to expire
to those of you asking about the high school game
here’s a recap:
http://stlhighschoolsports.com/sports/baseball/after-cards-mets-hillsboro-beats-ofallon-at-busch/
follow me on twitter @nickg105
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
nice work
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
the former hillsboro coach had to run to white castle to feed the team?
seems food and bev could’ve scrounged something up.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
there'd be anything left after 20 innings?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm sure they're stocked
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
so, milwaukee scored 10 runs in the first inning and hasn't scored since.
its now 10-5 in the 7th. props to the Nats for not giving up.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
they have had a lot of practice at it.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
10-7 now
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
awesome!
i was hoping for a save opportunity for hoffman
/ncamft
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Not caring about your team...
Brewers get 1 back, 11-7
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
yeah saw that.
maybe they will bring him in to pitch anyway.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
My god, that's Trevor Hoffman's music!
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 18, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
is it true
that the last time waino faced the mets was the ’06 nlcs?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
A quick spin through the game logs sez yes.
Really weird.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris Perez is in my computer!
And he just got bailed out by the umpire.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i hope we win tonight
or the pirates will get us
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Finally, MLB's automatic live look-in works
Top 9 in Chicago
Houston just tied it off Marmol. Go ahead run on 2nd.
And the Chicago announcers are talking about Geoff Blum being clutch. He doubled home the tying run.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Astros lead
Feliz SF in the 10th.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
is this a rubber game?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yes
Houston won yesterday
Somebody named Lindstrom now pitching for Houston.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
He's a mormon with a fast fastball.
I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons
Who struck out the side in the 10th
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Shin Shoo Choo is on fire lately
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, even though I thought he was way overrated
i still drafted him in one of my leagues. and he’s been the best player on my team, by far.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
he does it all
good D, good eye, some power, etc
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
bases loaded 2 outs bottom ninth for heyward, down a run
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
braves win on his single
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
was just about to post that
he won the game. also Perez closed out a game
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I "watched" last nights game till about the 19th
but that was when the 3 bud lights and 3 captain and coke’s took full effect. would have loved to be at home and sober for the festivities and the 9 overflow threads
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 4:56 PM EDT reply actions
i watched all 20 innings from the exact same spot with my buddy
and a bitching girl because she was so damn hungry. it was everything you could imagine.
and a pretty epic taco bell trip happened after it was finally all over.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
damn it
now i have either food poisoning, a 24 flu bug, or the worst hangover in my entire life
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
intriguing
since you weren’t the one who had taco bell….
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i know
ironically my only other experience with food poisoning occurred at taco bell
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That's the power of Taco Bell
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
its awful
i spent the entire morning in the bathroom
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
this is why i prepare my own food 99% of the time.
trust no one.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
thorough washing goes a long way, though
At least if you’re a vegetarian.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I listened to that game without the aid of alcohol
’twas brutal.
going to have to have a few cold ones tonight for the game
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Has anyone sighted the 6s# commercial this season?
I know Mobil is doing it again since Dan announced it on air, but I usually record games and skip over commercials.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
yeah...
they suck worse than last year if you can possibly believe that (although to be fair the very first one actually grew on me)
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That wasn't too bad
Not as endearingly corny as the previous. The Cards cowgirls were hot.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
Jimenez throws 128 pitches for his no-hitter
And then gets up at 6:30 this morning to run 6 miles.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
Ok...Why the live look-in for TB-BOS
It’s freakin’ 7-0 Tampa Bay
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
And we needed to see them score a trash run?
They cut out early to switch to Houston-Chicago
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
anybody know whether the league
Is considering disciplining padilla? He fucked up aaron rowand pretty bad. I didn’t see the footage, but I remember padilla basically got booted by the rangers because he was plunking everybody in sight.
Three breaks in rowand’s cheek could easily be a fractured orbit with encarnacion-level injury or a fracture at the temple causing brain damage or death.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 18, 2010 5:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
watching the giants/dodgers
haven’t heard anything from vin about it at all, but not paying close attention.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I assume Anderson's getting his first MLB start tonight
Either that, or TLR is the stupidest man alive.
See above
If Yadi says he can play, he’s starting.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
which makes TLR the stupidest man alive?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
tlr has a culture of asking players if they can 'go", like holliday yesterday
when he should rely more on the training staff to give him a fitness report on every player every day
asking cdunc if he is good to go, or rolen, etc make for some bad decisions
I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going
ha, i wasn't arguing the point, believe me
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Of course he's gonna _say_ he can play
Your job as a manager is to tell him to take a damn break after crouching for seven hours last night.
Yeah, but he keeps putting a sick Holliday in the lineup
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
tonite holliday should sit
put pujols in left (experience) and craig at first (experience) – this would be sensical.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
pujols should never play anywhere but DH and 1B
evar.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
by IHeartBoog on Apr 18, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
i'm going to rec this for earnestness in the face of absurdity
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
its absurd to suggest that pujols' elbow should be as protected as possible
and, at the same time, to suggest that we keep a gold glover at his gold glove position? i may be wrong about this, but because LF kind of lends itself to bad defenders, i assume its probably the easiest position to play besides maybe 1B. so does allen craig really weigh you down there so much that it becomes worth it to not only risk injury to the best player in the game™ but also take him out of the position where he plays superior defense?
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
Methinks you've got the roles backward
The absurdity isn’t yours.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
i was considering eliciting just one more response
but i see that the gig is up.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I am just imagining Albert's elbow after he throws a ball to the cut-off....
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
even more . . . interesting . . . is that leach tweets
No moves from memphis
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 18, 2010 5:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's not like we overworked anyone in the pen!
by Mister Eff on Apr 18, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i was kind of hoping ottavino would get called up for a day or two
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
i guess schu and stav could go
tony wouldn’t dare pitch yadi – considering his oblique and all, best to just let him catch another nine. that would only be 29 innings in 24 hrs, after all.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
maybe anderson gets a start?
He’s certainly the least overworked person on the roster, after all.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i could see anderson getting the start
if we burn penny in the pen tonite.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
And Berkman in Round Rock today...
3-for-4, 1 homer, 2 doubles, 3 runs and 2 RBI.
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
not sure that I like that
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
um, yes.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
right.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
is exile still a punishment?
there would be something poetic about sending someone so uncivilized to rot on a deserted island somewhere.
wow, what a dick
I’m reeeeally looking forward to my trip to citizen’s bank in a couple of weeks…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions
can any of you fellow south park fans out help me out?
what was the episode recently where butters went to the doctor they had to stick this giant spinning probe into his butt?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 5:41 PM EDT reply actions
stay sick, my friend
and have a dos equis
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 18, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
what?
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
just a joke
based on your prior details of your morning.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ha
ok
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
THANKS!!!
When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."
by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 18, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
lineups
1.Schumaker
2.Ludwick
3. Pujols
4. Holliday
5.Rasmus
6.Molina
7. Freese
8.Ryan
9. Wainwright
Mets:
1.Reyes
2.Cora
3.Wright
4.Catalanotto
5. Francoeur
6.Matthews
7. Barajas
8. Pagan
9. Maine
and with that i’m off to the stadium. legends club. free beer!!! and hot dogs!!!
Is it too early to put Anderson on a milk carton?
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
you've got to be shitting me. molina? really?
and i hate you and your free beer.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
i won't lie though
the lineup gives me a boner.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
you must be so proud of yourself.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not like the time I invented the question mark,
but I am proud of myself, yes.
by Mister Eff on Apr 18, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It could be sexier.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
I'm not sure how much sexier it could get without my head exploding.
You can read it in any tone you like.
should holliday's head ever explode
flights would be canceled in europe.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 18, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Green
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 18, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I could handle it.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
"If I do it wrong just break another toe. Three's my lucky number anyway." -Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
get a towel dude
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, really
What’s the point of carrying a backup catcher on a roster if you don’t start him when the starting catcher caught TWENTY INNINGS the previous night?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Day-into-night
Don’t forget, the game started at 3:00 p.m.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
i guess yadi's good to go for doubleheaders this year
so we may as well do away with the “backup catcher” designation and just carry an “emergency catcher”, such as stav. this will give us more roster flexibility, and we could use it to keep a lefty bat on the bench to do nothing but pinch hit – i propose bryan anderson.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
what a letdown after last night
i hate that lineup – it smells of ordinary everydayness.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
molina's knees are going to literally explode in a pile of viscera
in the fifth inning.
isn't this one on espn?
the analysis of tony’s management of last night’s game will take more than 90 minutes itself. i fully expect extra innings in order to get it all in.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
7 hours of McCarver and 3 hours of Morgan
>Pitcher Change: Felipe Lopez replaces Ryan Franklin, batting 7th, replacing third baseman Felipe Lopez
don't hurt Yadi :[
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
sweeeeeeet
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I just realized...
…that Lohse got to a ball that Holliday never does/will. That foul-line bloop — there’s no way Holliday doesn’t pull up on that one and play the bounce.
Just a thought. A sad thought…
I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.
by TheDuke32 on Apr 18, 2010 6:12 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
seriously what the hell is Tony doing anyway?
Holliday’s sick. the obvious play is to put Lohse in left field and bat him cleanup
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 18, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
heh
heh
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 3:30 PM PDT
heh
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 3:31 PM PDT
you sure are eloquent
A manifestation of absolute hereness, oneness, and collectiveness, as being fully present in the now. A genuine heh is only expressed when a mind is completely clear. Thus, the heh is first and foremost an inner state. For more experienced practitioners, the heh is accompanied by a fleeting euphoric sensation.
The most common physical articulation of the heh involves slight movement of the head, either foreword or backward, accompanied by a facial expression particular to the heh.
During the heh, the jaw drops slightly, causing the lower lip to cover the bottom row of teeth, while the top row remains revealed in most specimens. Although this could appear to create a comedic smile or silly face to an untrained eye, those who practice the heh insist that these misconceptions belie its true meaning.
Although material symptoms of this phenomenon can be confined to the face, head and neck, quite often the heh also involves movement of the arms. In such cases, slightly clenched fists vacillate within inches of the face, and, on occasion, an index finger is extended in the air.
The most unmistakable marker of the heh is its auditory expression from which the term derives its name. Emanating from the top of the throat, the proper pronunciation of the heh utilizes a short "e" vowel sound, and the first "h" is given different emphasis depending upon the speaker. Despite some superficial similarities to the common heh (see other definitions) or eh used to express amusement, indifference or confusion, the heh discussed here is unique in its sound, appearance, and spiritual content.
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
tl;dr
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
don't worry, I read it for you
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
refresh my memory
since the game is on espn tonight, does that mean that it won’t be on mlb.tv? if it’s not, is it on espn3 or whatever? will we start having to pay for espn3 some day if that is the case?
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
i don't think it's blacked out
i believe that’s only sat during the window of the fox game that games are blacked out. if it is when i go there – because this blackout is so confusing i never remember the rules – go to atdhe.net and they always have espn available. the only problem is when they show games on espn2 and you are in an mlb.tv blackout zone, as i was for cards/astros because of f’n houston, and then i got the game online at espn3 (my astros will be your cubs)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hmm
I asked because of this http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp?ymd=20100418
it doesn’t look to me like it is going to be on mlb.tv, but maybe it will be updated later and it will be on there
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It will be on ESPN 3.
"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.
select the term that best completes the following sentence:
“As the manager of a major league baseball team whose entire bullpen pitched in a 20-inning game last night, I am glad that _______ is my starting pitcher today.”
A. John maine
B. Adam wainwright
C. Felipe lopez
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Apr 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
B
he is under a lot of pressure tonight though. i wouldn’t necessarily want to be him right now.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
would you rather be maine though?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah, no.
the mets are screwed tonight. especially after we put up 7 in the first inning.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I felt compelled to share this
http://brettlamb.com/blamblog/busey.gif
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions
if you think busey is funny
it’s a must see
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Old Crow Medicine Show does a version of that song.
They call it Wagon Wheel. Never heard the Dylan version, though.
by peach concrete on Apr 18, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The Dylan version's the original one
He wrote the chorus and some of the verses for a movie in the 70’’s, but he never released the track until later. Old Crow Medicine added some lyrics to it and did there own version, but I just like Dylan’s so much better, even if it’s incomplete.
by vivaelpujols on Apr 18, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I posted about the OCMS version like a week back
I’d love to hear a decent version of it, though. Too faint
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It's a bootleg
At about 2 minutes in the chorus starts to get a lot clearer though
by vivaelpujols on Apr 18, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The OCMS version is geographically incorrect
You don’t go west from the Cumberland Gap to Johnson City
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Apr 18, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
PREGAME QUESTION!!!!
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
orange crush
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yes to both.
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
really?
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by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 18, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
coke
there is a drug called pepsi now?
by sharpelbows on Apr 18, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
it's coke cut with sugar
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Apr 18, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
coke fo' sho'
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Cherry Coke
or Vault Red Blitz…and just because I work for Coke I’m not forced to say this
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 18, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmm regular Coke plus vanilla or cherry syrup.
Canned Cherry Coke is OK too.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Morgan is ::so:: terrible.
it’s painful to even listen to him. i’m going to hope ESPN and my mlb radio are synced tonight, i can’t possibly take morgan after 20 innings of McCarver yesterday
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
deciding game of a series
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
sorry let me amend that a little.
final game of a series, when the series is tied. so a game that will certainly decide the series, no matter the outcome
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
a little more digging gives us
Whist and bridge and bowls, oh my! According to Paul Dickson’s The New Dickson’s Baseball Dictionary (Harcourt Brace, 1999), a “rubber game” is “The last and deciding game of a series when the previous games have been split; e.g., the seventh game of the World Series.” This tie-breaking sense of “rubber” apparently originated in the pulse-pounding English game of “bowls,” or lawn bowling. Despite its name, bowls has little in common with American bowling, and consists of rolling wooden balls (called “bowls”) across a level green, the object being to get your ball as close as possible to (but not to hit) a little white ball at the other end of the green. “Rubber” in its tie-breaking sense first appeared in the context of bowls around 1599, and was in use by the card-playing crowd (whist, bridge, etc.) by 1744. A set of three games of bridge is still generally referred to as a “rubber.”
Unfortunately, no one knows where “rubber” in this sense came from. It appears to be unrelated to the elastic sort of “rubber.” (Incidentally, our modern elastic “rubber” is short for “India-rubber,” from its original source in the East Indies. “Rubber” previously meant anything used to rub, smooth or clean.) Brewer’s Dictionary of Phrase and Fable ventures that the term may have referred to two “bowls” rubbing together, a fatal error in the game of bowls. Or it might be a metaphorical use of “rubber” (something that expunges) referring to the “sudden death” third game of a series, the loss of which would conclusively “rub out” the losing team’s hopes. But there is, sad to say, no solid evidence for either theory.
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
by tehzachatak on Apr 18, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
point to tehzachatak
rec’d
bowls sounds a lot like bocce ball, at least the kind I’ve played
"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"
indeed
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
As we all learnt last season, Albert performs better when he has protection.
Hence, he’s at his best in the rubber game.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Apr 19, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank goodness Orel is in the booth now too.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
"The loss would have hurt more than a win"
Words of wisdom from Joe Morgan
I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!
by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 18, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions
There's probably a pre-programmed one lurking just around the corner.
If not, someone will put one up.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
this mets lineup is hilarious
Frank Catalanatto hitting cleanup? Gary Matthews? i’m amused
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
heyyyyyy game thread... Yadi2 where are you with a emergency one when we need you
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
he got results.. look at his ERA
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
yeah
forgot to put my VEB filter on my brain
he is a bit eccentric
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 18, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
rooney said standing room only
filing in, the concourses full, etc.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
can someone feed Joe Morgan some xanax? like, a lot of xanax?
if he passes out, i think Jon Miller with a little bit of orel could be just fine
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
hhmmmm....
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
god i love that commercial
"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon
adam looks like adam
maine to look like maine?
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
Game Thread, if I did it right.
I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.
by The Continental on Apr 18, 2010 8:16 PM EDT reply actions
f'in foxyproxy
making me work to get the game going
missed wainer’s first inning
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
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