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The Dave Duncan Method; a visit from the ghost of Rob Dibble

Looking at Brad Penny's numbers through two starts—the box score lines, sure, but more specifically the velocity ad movement charts, which show a fastball that is about as good as fastballs get—after another of the red baron's indispensable draft updates, I'm reminded just how strange it is to watch a team whose rotation is restocked, year after year, via the Dave Duncan Method. 

It's not about finding players who are statistically valuable the year before; it's not about finding guys who look ready to break out according to CHONE or PECOTA or any other projection method. It's certainly not about finding players who are good now, and are likely to be good in the future. It's like scouting high schoolers. Todd Wellemeyer? He has a good fastball, looks kind of like a starter. Bring him in. Brad Penny? This kid is huge! Look how hard he throws, even at the end of the game! Take this slightly altered quote from the baron about Nick Tepesch:

The results just haven't matched the talent for [Brad Penny] in his [recent] career, and I actually think that makes him an excellent [free agent]. He'll likely go far lower than a guy with his arm should, and if a team could make some much-needed changes to his game I think he could go a long, long way.

This is more or less how every discussion about pitching in St. Louis has to go, now. Penny's strange 2009 and absent 2008 didn't give us much to go on at all as far as a reasonable 2010 projection was concerned, but the Cardinals handed him a $7 million signing bonus contract anyway, and thus far the must-needed changes to his game have worked out in their favor. It's just like following draft picks, only azruavatar and Erik will need to change the name of their hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity to Present Redbirds. 

Star-divide

With Penny it's been all good news so far, but there's been no major changes to his gameplan to report. He still throws his fastball a lot, and incredibly hard, and he still uses it as his out-pitch; he threw just one curveball in a strikeout count, normally reserving it for the beginning of an at-bat, and he laid off it in the later innings. The change-up—or whatever it was he was throwing at 89 miles per hour that registered to Gameday as a change-up; Al called it a splitter—was more likely to be used in any count than the curveball, and he got three of his four strikeouts with it. If that's the new pitch, it is to this point an unqualified success. 

But all this is necessarily like becoming a huge Shelby Miller fan after a YouTube clip and some newspaper reports. The Cardinals signed a few interesting descriptive words—big, hard-thrower, groundball-heavy—and some fragmentary stats, and the early results are positive. As for the long-term meaning of it... prospects take a little while to develop. 

Now—well, we have a guest. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. The Ghost of Rob Dibble. 

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 What's up, Viva El Birdos? Still queer? It's me, the ghost of Rob Dibble, here to talk a little about your dweeb friend Joe Pineiro in between trips to the super-hot incorporeal nightlife. 

Don't even start, high-pants. Don't. Even. Start. I know you're gonna tell old Dibs how you saw him walking along the mortal coil not an hour ago in some stuffed shirt, yakkin it up on TV. QED, my man, QED—if that's Rob Dibble, what's he doing in a suit and tie when there's Nasty Boy mischief to make? Answer: Rob Dibble died the moment he broke his armbone doing what he loved second-best—Throwing. The. Heat. And I've been doomed to roam the earth a badass spirit ever since. 

There. Get it? Now that Remedial Ed is over with maybe you jock-sniffers will let me talk about my boy Joe Pineiro, who you might know a little better as Wuss McGirlthrower from last year. After 2009 my boy Christy Mathewson had to leave Joe's body—spirit rules, right? Seriously. And dude was pretty worried about it. He went up and down the spirit world, asking every last nerd without a pulse whether they could help him win ballgames without striking people out. 

His Dibness heard this and thought—no way, kid. No. Freakin. Way. I said, "Hey, Joe." Kid looks at me. "Hey, Joe. Over here. How about you stop pitching like a little girl and start pitching like your Uncle Dibs? I can make it happen." Kid thinks it over for a minute, and says: yeah, I'm game.

Kid's been working with me ever since. And let me say: yesterday was only the beginning. Watch it, I'm telling you. Bitchin! Like, ghost-motorcycle bitchin!

Kid asked me—"Dib-man. Dibstein. What do I do when I'm ahead in the count?" And I told him: Throw it by him. "What do I do when I'm behind in the count?" Throw it by him. You get the picture? Joe did. Those New York Yankers didn't stand chance one. Seriously. You gotta bring that 89 mile an hour heat-sauce, and you gotta bring it until the umpire waves his fist around and Robinson Cano chance has to walk back to the dugout less of a man. That's all there is to it, and that's all there was to do it. 

Look, you guys have this thing going with not striking anybody out, and whatever. Different strokes for different nerds, right? D-D-D-Dibble's not about to rain on your goofy parade. But some last words for you clown ball itchers: the minute Brad Penny's a free agent, bro is striking people out. I saw that fastball. I'm making sure of it. All right, kids—ye olde ghost iPhone is blowin' up, so I'm out. 

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by StanTheManFan on Apr 15, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

I can't wait

for the Ghost of Ty Cobb to guest post later on this season.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Prime candidate for possession by the Ghost of Ty Cobb:

Ryan Braun.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 15, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

milton bradley would be funny

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

True...

…but then you lose the plausibility of the “hideously racist” angle.

It’s just too bad Jeff Kent isn’t still playing…he’d be my real first choice.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 15, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

no need to lose that angle

milton protests racism all the time…maybe too much.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

if anything, that makes Bradley the ideal choice. I’m not so sure that the intimation (even in jest) that Ryan Braun (even possessed by Mr Cobb) might be “hideously racist” is in any way amusing, either.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 16, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

More ghosts!

You are welcome here. I can’t wait for when the ghost of player Joe Morgan comes to hate on broadcaster Joe Morgan.

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Apr 15, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

But see, the question I'm asking is, what constitutes a ghost market?

Not every ghost can compete with the Yankees.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 15, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's easy to fall into

calling yourself a small-market ghost when it benefits you, and calling yourself a mid-market ghost when you sign Joe Mauer.

by WyoCardsFan on Apr 15, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I remember seeing something somewhere (specific, I know) a while back suggesting that there was a bit of irony in Morgan’s rejection of “new” methods and sabr stats in baseball, when a lot of the newer metrics elevate his playing career from “pretty good HOFer” to “one of the 2 greatest second basemen of all time”.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 16, 2010 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never thought I'd miss Al Hrabosky

But last night Rick Sutcliffe made me pine for someone to say something false and then try and rationalize it:

  • Matt Holliday reminds him of Albert Pujols. Really, Rick? You couldn’t come up with a better comparison? Why does anyone compare other players to Pujols. I don’t remember anyone ever comparing players to Barry Bonds…
  • The Astros will be looking to trade Oswalt but only if they can dump El Caballo and his contract in the same deal. Really, Rick? So you mean they’d rather have half their payroll lifted and get nothing in return except a couple of shitty prospects?
  • The Braves would make a good target for Oswalt and Lee. Rick, c’mon now. Why would Atlanta, who has 2 potential starters in their bullpen and the best rotation top to bottom in the NL, trade for two players who are owed $102.5M over the next three seasons? I can’t think of a team that would trade for both of those players.

Good god. It was a Tour De Force of ridiculous commentary last night, and the fact that his voice sounds like tha condescending uncle from when you were 12 doesn’t help matters.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Holliday reminds me of Pujols too.

But then, every Cardinal reminds me of Pujols. Every baseball player, really. And everything red.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Apr 15, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

apples!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Socks Fought a War of Territorial Aggression Last Night in My Dryer....

…they reminded me of Albert Pujols.

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Apr 15, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

we're Pujolistic.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ZING!

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i saw a shiny penny on the street today

and immediately thought of pujols.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and not...?

never mind.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the other hand

Butcliffe was pretty badass himself in RBI 1. He was no Saberhagen, but still pretty rough.

They say sing while you slave but I just get bored

by Scarecrow7775 on Apr 15, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was unable to hear the game

cause I was at a bar watching it… but from your description, Mr. Sutcliffe is the newest winner of…

The Joe Morgan Memorial Award for Ineptitude in Color Commentary

Keep up the good work buddy.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 15, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

clap clap clap clap

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean, "Color Commentary"

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 15, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

You people are so over-sensitive!

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean, "you people"

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 15, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

Way to take that one yard; put 'er on a tee for ya.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just couldn't resist

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 15, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you for filling in in my absence

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 15, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

This thread...

Comedy Gold… (sigh) … Comedy Gold…

Brenden Ryan is my hero...

by pattimagee on Apr 15, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

True that does imply insight...

Perhaps it should be renamed the Joe Morgan Memorial Award for Ineptitude in not Being the Play By Play Man in the Booth. But that’s a bit wordy.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 15, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday is a horrible comp for Pujols

I can think of about 20 hitters just off the top of my head, playing now, who are probably closer to his skillset…

And no-one is taking Carlos Lee, ever. I doubt MacLane would ever countenance eating half his paycheck to shift him, and, aside of packaging him up with every good prospect they’ve got, well, it ain’t happening….

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone on VEB mentioned this recently, so it's not original to me

But Holliday is basically Hanley Ramirez as a hitter, only he plays an easy position instead of a hard one.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 15, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not a bad comp, no

I think Hanley’s a bit more reliant on his speed to leg-out singles, and Holliday’s a bit more reliant on his ability to hit the ball into gaps.

Hanley doubles about once every 16 PAs. Holliday about once every 14 PAs.

Hanley’s infield hit rate is about 10%. Holliday’s is about 7%.

Holliday also, oddly, given their similar averages and walk-rates, swings at a LOT more pitches than Hanley does, in all areas. He’s hacking a good 10% more than Hanley; I guess, therefore, he’s a slightly better contact hitter.

Also, Hanley steals more bases (depending on whether you characterise that as being part of “hitting”).

Otherwise, they’re pretty remarkably similar in their stats, yep. So what I’m saying in a roundabout way is, pretty good comp.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 15, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know!

although, of course, I had long since committed all those stats to memory….

That’s one nice thing they could introduce, actually – comps by sabr stats. I think baseball ref’s comps are more based on the traditional stats. Things like swing% are quite important in comps, I think.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 16, 2010 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

repost link

Brendan Ryan
→ my reaction

discuss amongst yourselves. or risk a fanpost.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 9:25 AM EDT reply actions  

If your Mac

and you worked all winter to help this guy re-tool his swing and you see him hitting peas right at people, wouldn’t you be a little pissed if he wanted to “work some things out on his own”? It’s not like Brendan’s taking bad AB’s, he just hasn’t had good outcomes yet, and Tony has alluded to this. If you’ve watched him this first week, it looks like his approach has been much better — he’s more selective, and he spoils a lot of pitches by fouling them off than he did last year. He hasn’t had near as many swinging strikes from what I’ve seen so far, which would be a direct result of taking a shorter and more direct path to the baseball.

It’s nice that he’s going in and putting in extra time, but not calling Mac because you don’t want to bug him on a day off is simply a poor excuse. The guy was hired to help make you better, you need to give him a chance to do that.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's nuts.

sometimes a guy needs to be inside his own head and work things out on his own. since when is that irresponsible? are you saying this player — a professional Major League baseball player .. needs to be babysat by his hitting coach whenever he takes a swing?

oh, because he did so badly with the bum wrist and the hands-off hitting coach last year.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not nuts

That doesn’t mean that Mac has to come out, it means that Brendan is communicating to him that he isn’t comfortable. If that’s the case, then they can work on some things to make him more comfortable up there without de-constructing the gains that he’s made.

You’re blowing this way out of proportion here. Mac had been nothing but positive, all the guys have been receptive to him according to various clubhouse sources, and it’s pretty clear that the team’s approach at the plate is better than it was last season. He’s here to help, not to “mother-hen”.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also
oh, because he did so badly with the bum wrist and the hands-off hitting coach last year.

That’s garbage. I don’t think that Brendan Ryan was forced to go work with Mac in California. I’m going to guess that was a voluntary thing. He knows he can get better and he’s trying to improve. Even Albert is always looking for ways to improve his hitting.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying that he's not utterly incapable of making adjustments on his own.

nowhere did I say that he did not need McGwire. are you saying he can’t last one day in the cage for a hundred swings without McGwire talking to him every ten seconds? that’s what I mean by babysitting.

and furthermore, are you assuming that he didn’t go to his home park and take some hacks on all the days of the week he didn’t drive down to see Mac during the off-season?

as someone else here said, Ryan is a hitter who has utterly retooled his swing practically overnight. I don’t see why gaining the feel of it has to be done with McGwire present.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

also

not everyone gets a little pissed at every little thing.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

And you wanting to post a fanpost about McGwire being upset about a player not telling him that he was uncomfortable and making the leap to “mother-henning everyone to death” probably qualifies.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

McGwire

Would be the scariest mother hen ever………

YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain-abayarde

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

how do you know I wanted to post a fanpost about McGwire?

last I checked, there were four other bullet-points in that reaction.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

and quite frankly, that's the last thing I'd do a fanpost on.

Unless I wanted a host of “small sample size” gifs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh boog..

someone please teach that boy not to be so nice and say so much to reporters
i mean it’s great to have more inside info of the club but that’s only fuel for speculation
reporters take advantage of him every time he has a mike in his face..

by d-dee on Apr 15, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. oh my god.

It was nice at first, because I was just being a consumer. now… I’m dead worried about it. it gives Tony something extra to be prickly about; it makes him look like an attention whore (even though he hardly ever praises himself in his many quotes); it opens up the danger of busting through the (notorious?) closed-doors club and making him a “liability”. And especially after L.A., wow, he was practically weeping and he still talked to the vultures reporters. Most of them are real nice about it, but I almost wanna say they’re preying on him.

so far Boog’s danced through minefields. as usual I love it and am terrified by it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

What was up with Penny v. Bourn last night?

What was THAT all about?

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Apr 15, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

It had something to do

with Bourn standing in the box looking at Penny after a pitch that was up in the strike zone. I think that Brad thought he was getting eyeballed or something. I personally didn’t see anything derogatory, unless Bourn said something on his way down the line and Penny took offense to it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching Bourn the rest of the game...

… he seems to always do that. Frankly, I prefer a guy standing in the box between pitches to Schumaker’s OCD routine.

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Apr 15, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

True dat!

I can’t stand watching Skip bat. He takes forever and re-Velcros® the Velcro® on his batting gloves. Every. Single. Time. I just want to scream at him!

by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Apr 15, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

now, now.

he’s working out his insecurities.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

As someone who has to have my shoes tied JUST SO, I can relate to Skip.

Of course, I don’t stop and retie my shoes every few minutes, but I would if they felt funny.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 15, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe if you were on a kickball team you would

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 15, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

excellent

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

Never had a problem when I played soccer.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 15, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you ever had those velcro tennis shoes?

i picture the kicker working those things like skip does his gloves.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

I remember having a pair of those when I was 4 or 5. They had The Wuzzles on them.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 15, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

the shortest running animated series produced by disney

those shoes are probably collector’s items now

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

could be that

apparently Dan and Al (read: don’t take this with any authority) suggested it might be related to Penny thinking Bourn had been stealing signs earlier in the game.

by mattyp on Apr 15, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Postgame last night

Penny himself said it had something to do with Bourn fouling a pitch off, and then acting like he was pissed for not hitting out of the ballpark. Penny said something to the effect of, “You don’t hit that many homeruns anyway, just get back in there and take your cut at the next one.”

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 15, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

well that’s much funnier and much more prickish. not that that’s a bad tihng, let’s not forget one of the biggest pricks (only on the mound) ever was Bob Gibson. I heard he was down at ST and talking a lot with Penny. Maybe he rubbed off a little? Nothing but good can come from that.

by mattyp on Apr 15, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

so... odds on a good old fashioned bench-clearer before the season is through?

a demoralized fanbase is the touchiest kind, to be fair the ‘stros. that can’t be easy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Garcia knows some stuff, you can tell.

And Lohse, well Lohse looks like one of those people that you’re like “Oh he’s a nice guy, clean-cut, WHAT THE HELL IS HE DOING!?!?”

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lohse looks like he might have gotten into boxing classes

I really would like to know Carp’s punching power. I’d have to imagine it’d be legitimately elite even for a boxer.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 15, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp's a hockey man

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's a difference?

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

my point exactly

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will fight Jim Rappaport

any day of the week. That’s about all I’ve got.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Apr 15, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Rapoport?

you fight twelve year olds?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think of Lohse as the kid at the grown up table from Dan's Ten Millionaire's piece

“They put an orange slice on my Orange Slice! This is the best club ever.”

"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"

by jacksonian on Apr 15, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that was the greatest evar.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Just for reminding me of that brilliant piece. I still long for the day when the Yankees motor out to their spots on the field in Segways.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 15, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think they believe the same thing at crawfish boxes

their game thread had a blow-by-blow of the penny/bourn thing, but it also included molina and lopex and two umpires separating things. i didn’t see the game because of mlb blackout, but how did no one here see this – did it just depend on what feed you were getting?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was in between innings.

I’m not sure if ESPN replayed the altercation, but FSMW did.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny is a badass

I’m really liking him. A lot. Not a lot of guys would want to mess with him, Carp or Waino.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 15, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep...watching him really for

the first time last night…I’m a fan of his stuff, and his game.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said last night

that the way Penny falls off the mound reminded me of Gibson. I had no idea about Gibby being in ST though.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 15, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep....heard that too

All the reporters chuckled when Penny said that.

by goodymobb on Apr 15, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's simple

Penny is:

A) Healthy
B) Pitching in the NL

It’s the difference between having an AL East lineup stare you down and the likes of Mike Bourn. (Just don’t ask Penny to get out ex-AL East pitchers at the plate).

As for Pineiro, the Yankees didn’t know what hit em’ yesterday. Ghost of Dibs aside, Jo-el will get soundly thrashed if he faces them again this year.

by olddomination on Apr 15, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Penny

His start last night reminded me a lot of his starts with the Dodgers a few years back when he started the All-Star game. Hard 2 seamer, lots of ground balls, but he velocity to get a swing and a miss when he needed it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 15, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

What makes you think so?

Genuinely curious. The man was a strikeout/ground ball king – 7Ks, 11-3 GB/FB ratio. Maybe the strikeouts won’t be as repeatable, but the GB/FB ratio seems legit as he did that all last year.

by all4tookie on Apr 15, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just imagine if we had him in our rotation instead of Lohse

and then spent the remaining $3m difference between them on (I dunno) Octavio Dotel or somebody.

[weeps]

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 15, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

and maybe lohse is 3 mil better than pinata this year

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

i probably give him a little better odds than most, but they still favor pinata

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 16, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

wat

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 15, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Great 1999 SB Rams Documentary

Hard to believe it’s been 11 years now. What a story and season! 1999 Storybook Season

Sorry about the OT post. I’m alittle distracted from all the COFFEE! Go Birds, get your brooms ready!

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 15, 2010 9:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I literally laughed out loud at the ghost of Rod Dibble

Woke my gf up and everything. So have some rec, for getting me in troube Rod freaking Dibble.

YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain-abayarde

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

from beyond the grave!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha awesome!

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 15, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love the unnecessary slide.

He looked like he was having a ton of fun.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 15, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big boy was boooookin' it!

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see Pablo Sandoval leg out an ITPHR

if only to know whether or not it was possible.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Apr 15, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have more ITPHR's in slow-pitch than actual HRs...

…granted, only 240 ft of basepath vs 360, but still….

MATH ALERT.
300lbs * 240ft = 72,000 ft-lb of work.

Stay on the safe side and say 15-16 seconds for rounding the bases…equates to 4800 lb-ft/s. Conversion factor of 550 ft-lb/s per horsepower, and that equals 8.72 horsepower of me chugging on the basepaths.
Anyone wanna doublecheck that math?

I’m a hoss.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not your math, but maybe your physics

How the hey much do you weigh if it takes 300 lbs of force TO KEEP YOU GOING? I.e. not your weight, but the force to keep you moving forward against the frictional losses in your joints, etc.

"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill

by lordsummer on Apr 15, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

he weighs around 300

maybe 275? it’s up there though – that’s all i know.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, it's the physics

If he were jumping 1 ft up off the ground 240 times, then he would be expending 72,000 ft-lb of work but it doesn’t take a force equal to your weight to maintain a running speed. As a side note (from Wiki):

A healthy human can produce about 1.2 hp briefly (see orders of magnitude) and sustain about 0.1 hp indefinitely; trained athletes can manage up to about 2.5 hp briefly6 and 0.3 hp for a period of several hours.

by ArkansasTravs on Apr 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Penny'

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 15, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Nickel' ???

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 15, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 15, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

fail.

After two starts, Penny is in the top 10 in the league in FIP (and in the top 20 in xFIP) despite having the lowest K rate of any of the top starters at 5 per 9. His results are basically an improved version of Joel’s 2009, coming thanks to one of the highest GB/FB rates in the game, and a K/BB of 4.0.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 15, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I ever I see this stat's acronym, I think of Italian soccer.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 15, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's odd

I think of this:

Or perhaps the old Leisure Suit Larry games…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 15, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

now a days...

you can’t make a game like Leisure Suit Larry. But you can make GTA. Weird huh?

by Evilfrog on Apr 15, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I swear i saw a PS3 Leisure Suit Larry game somewhere

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do make LSL games nowadays

But from what I’ve read, they aren’t the same as the old ones

by saladdays on Apr 15, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that sucks

Leisure suit Larry was the only PS2 game my GF would play.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think of King's Quest and Quest for Glory

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 15, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

>Kick cat

You kick the cat.

/KQIII’ed

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWTLRTABOAK

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

told a box of adopted kittens

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually it might be a basket

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the one.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I cannot believe my eyes
Is the world finally growing wise
Because it seems to me some kind of harmony
Is on the rise

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 15, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why would I go out for hamburger,

when I can have steak at home?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 15, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Today's Lineup via FSNMW Tweet

Schumaker 2B
Ludwick RF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Rasmus CF
Lopez SS
Molina C
Freese 3B
Lohse SP

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 15, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

till today i had never wished for a ghost of

Lou piniella. And I expect I never will again.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 15, 2010 10:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

The Sweet Lou vs. Dibble locker room fight is hilarious.

Perhaps there ghosts could duke it out.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 15, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps, there, gosts could duke it out

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

F....

ghosts

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

not, often, I, say, this, but,

I think that’s one too many commas.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 16, 2010 5:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Terrible, just terrible.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 15, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i knew someone would have a link.

It’s too bad milton bradley was such a jerk that he couldn’t get along with a nice, even-tempered guy like lou.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 15, 2010 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Nothing like a day game on tax day

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 15, 2010 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Rob Dibble?

Rob Dibble sounds a lot like Todd Packer…

"I quite agree with you," said the Duchess; "and the moral of that is -- 'Be what you would seem to be' -- or, if you'd like it put more simply -- 'Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.'"

by Madly Hatter on Apr 15, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

OT: Fantasy baseball advice

Should I stick with Billingsley or drop him for a FA like Romero, Penny, Price, Baker, Hudson, Kershaw, or Millwood to name a few?

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 15, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Uhm... Well...
But some last words for you clown ball itchers

o.O

I’m at a loss for words. But the spirit seems to speak with some authority…

by JWO on Apr 15, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

F Day baseball.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 11:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I swear I saw an ad for todays game

On Espn. Or perhaps I’m hallucinating, either way its all win.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't do it, man!

oh wait, radio reception.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

The windows don't open...

For “our protection”, or something.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fot the protection

Of pedestrians, I think you’ll find. lol

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the protection of the LA Angels.

Did you guys hear about that story.

Some guy jumped off the roof at the hotel they were staying at in NY, right in front of some/most/all of the team.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I linked it

I was about to say, oooh bad timing.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

That was akward………my bad, to soon.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love day baseball

Makes the work day go by so much faster.

by Evilfrog on Apr 15, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't guarantee

I can hear the whole game, so I go on media blackout until I get off work and can go home to my DVR.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love day baseball

because it starts in the evening for me. Perfect!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 16, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 15, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

-1

Day baseball is great, just like any other excuse to drink during the day is.

by mattyp on Apr 15, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only I didn't have this

source of income to let me drink with you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as I'm concerned

having a job is the (survey says…) #1 reason to drink during the day. Just gotta make sure you’re your own boss. Like me, I ghostwrite death threats for enraged but lazy people

by mattyp on Apr 15, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JBAxkZun3s&feature=PlayList&p=5D5E3471964CE94A&playnext_from=PL&index=1&playnext=21

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 15, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

OMG Love Girl Talk!

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 15, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Bud Norris was born, his father Chuck Norris sent him back in time,

just so that he wouldn’t have to play against AJ Pujols and Chad Amaury Marti.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 15, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe not.

I’m confused.

I can’t believe that I’m sharing a kebab w/the most beautiful girl I have ever seen with a kebab.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amaury Marti Cazana, how could you

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's hitting at Memphis.

A convergence of forces is inevitable…

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the whole wide room...

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

now you are learning, braintwin.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your absence last night was noticed.

Someone posted a blurb from Bengie’s Wikipedia page that was quite hilarious.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that, I think

I had to take a night off to eat all this bacon.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was all-inclusive

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was in a commemorative bacon hat

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Purina Pooches in the park tickets on sale tomorrow

tweeter update from the mothership account
Tix also on sale Friday at 9 am for Purina® Pooches in the Ballpark held on June 6 this year – LINK

by ubeddie on Apr 15, 2010 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

my mistake

Looks like tickets go on sale on Saturday

by ubeddie on Apr 15, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I ate dinner and watched the game at our new local Buffalo Wild wings last night.....

I was the only one there interested in any of the games going on…..I had an artery exploding burger, with bacon, cheddar jack, pulled pork and bbq sauce.

It made me happy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I swear...the place was packed,

it opened last month…..not .one.sports.fan.there.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just something new....

I’m actually amazed that they opened one here…..Just not a big sports town….only 50K population. Just struck me as odd when I saw them building it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahaha rec.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd like

Matt Pagnozzi’s career line.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, our single-A team calls that a crappy thursday turnout.

Dollar beers, baby! 8,000 people almost every time on THURSDAYS for a LOW-A TEAM

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 15, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which town is that?

Kinda weird not to be a sportstown (or at least resemble one at a sportsbar) ’round these parts.

by goodymobb on Apr 15, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Helena, MT.....

We have a rookie A ball team, that plays from June- Sept (the Untuckers), and an NAIA Football team….which is actually pretty fooking good, but people just don’t really get into pro sports much around here, except handegg, because we’re so far away from teams. Denver and Seattle are the 2 places nearest us with pro teams (except the Utah Jazz), and both of them are 12 hr drives. I just thought it odd that BWW would come into this market.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that does seem weird

Thought you were in the Midwest. There really isn’t much out there, but there is definitely tons of cool outdoor-type shit to keep you busy.

by goodymobb on Apr 15, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's exactly how you fill your time

out here…..Lots of fishing, skiing, camping, etc.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be a lot, lot worse.

I miss mountains and the Mississippi doesn’t really allow for a whole lot of water rec. Tradeoffs I guess.

by goodymobb on Apr 15, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was one of the main reasons

that I moved back from STL. I couldn’t handle the flat lands.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...

Pulled pork as a condiment?

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Must investigate this soon.

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

With my work week

Friday is my tuesday.

The player I would like least at #9 would be my sister’s cat, Captain Creamsicle. She does have a great work ethic and agility, but I’m really concerned that at 9 lbs., she’s too small to play safety in the NFL. She also bites way too often on play action and is easily distracted by someone waving string in the crowd. Lastly, her wonderlic score was pretty awful, answering "meow meow meow" for most of the questions- Dr. Brackish Okun

by mob16151 on Apr 15, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

So. Pissed.

At my friends for getting married on Pooches weekend. We went last year and LOVED it. Totally worth it.

by goodymobb on Apr 15, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell me about it

and how well behaved does your dog have to be in order to be allowed to go?

by d-dee on Apr 15, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding Penny...

at ANY point do you consider signing him to a 2 year deal, or is pretty much a definite that he’s one and done here? Especially with the Pujols extravaganza coming up…

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

No

You enjoy the ride, and hope he racks up 15-18 wins. Penny will be outside the Cards budget for next year.

by JWO on Apr 15, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

probably a type B if he’s healthy all year. Given the dire state of our farm, it’s probably worth trying to hoard as many picks as possible…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 16, 2010 5:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Torre on Kid Pitch

This is good stuff.

To little league catcher:
“You know what they call those?”
“No, what?”
“The tools of ignorance.”

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 15, 2010 12:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ozzie Guillen was on too,

sorry I missed that.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 15, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it's possible to hit a home run with a blog post, Dan

you just hit a 500 footer straight into the scoreboard a blew that f’r up! rec’d with a 98 mph high heater

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 15, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Teh Twitterz

BJRains
La Russa upon hearing base-stealer Michael Bourn enjoys challenge of facing Molina: “He’s not going to win that one.”

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 15, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

As just about the least Felipe Lopez supporter in the world

I’m so glad we signed him. I was one of the people that didn’t think Freese was going to be an above average MLB player and I still don’t. But with Lopez bat availible. It makes me feel somewhat comforted in knowing he can take over that role.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 15, 2010 12:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

you should mee gdm

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 15, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

great, great signing

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 15, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

freeser insurance

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 15, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny signing

made pretty good cents…so far.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 15, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost flagged for the pun

But since the Birds are 6-2, I can forgive.

by JWO on Apr 15, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

yeah, penny signing was very good as well. although I think that was more Duncan and Tony, and Lopez was more Moz’ doing

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 15, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it means basically nothing

But Harden has 8 BBs in 9.2 innings so far (to go with 10 Ks and 2 bombs)

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 15, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, he must be healthy then

those look like his typical numbers.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone know the menu for the champions club all inclusive area?

(I think that’s what it’s called)

I worked out and dieted the last two weeks and lost 10 lbs, just so I could get my money’s worth, and then some tomorrow night

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 15, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Bacon

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last year

it was roast beef, turkey, spaghetti, salads, brats, nachos, and lots of beers and shots.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

some type of potatoes were there too,

it’s mostly a blur in my memory.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 15, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

as it should be.

I did the one in centerfield (coca cola?) and it’s all a blur. except for the camera man getting pissed because I yelled at Erstad every inning.

EERRRRRSTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!
(high pitch after the ‘T’)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 15, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

so my body needs to prepare for:

Brats
nachos
lots of beer

thanks.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 15, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Mc is like two people. wow.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

i was just thinking that

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.

by TNTinCO on Apr 15, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

kids will do that to you

he’s probably preparing to take over for Shannon, so who cares what you look like

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 15, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he had four kids already

unless you mean he’s pregnant

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope they figure out how obvious Bud is

in his choice of pitches…

  1. Fastball
  2. Fastball
  3. Fastball
  4. Fastball
  5. change/junk thing

repeat add water

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Apr 15, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks.

site says its having technical problems—not working.

bullcrap!

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Apr 15, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've heard toadonalump has radio

i’ve got mlb.tv but blacked out here, so they give you the radio – shannon is in a great mood today.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 up, 3 down

nice start.

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.

by TNTinCO on Apr 15, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

this is way way off topic but....

has anybody here ever caulked their driveway with np-1 caulk?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Like straight through the cable?

I haven’t noticed anything.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 15, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've noticed lately

that despite a signal strength of 89 or so, there’s noticeable pixelation on just about every sports channel. Has DirecTV decided to degrade the standard definition feed in favor of adding more HD channels?

by Michael_68_1999 on Apr 15, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

our DVR'd episode of Lost kept freezing on us the other night...

it sucks

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

mine was cutting out yesterday

was impossible to listen to it.

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.

by TNTinCO on Apr 15, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

that damn racist cable

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

mine was 1 out of every 3 or 4 words

video was mostly fine (occasional pixelation) but audio was horrendous

"He ran hard, but he didn't run fast. He runs like he's mad at the ground." - opposing broadcaster describing Yadi's speed.

by TNTinCO on Apr 15, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let it be known

that I am NOT a fan of APu’s team photo this year. He looks like he should be chewing a piece of straw.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Apr 15, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ew, Albert. That was bad.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 15, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Online Stream

Its FS Astros feed but can’t complain since its free. Gotta have StreamTorrent dl’d tho. Sorry can’t figure out how to make this link look nice.

st://AzwCgpwEdTQDNAWCoAHIgBYFDZqfc6UtU+AMidxRMJOqihcFRlMgVFaKQQdkZWZhdWx0iqIGU3BvcnRz/

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 15, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Douglas Adams day

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by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yes but what is the actual wording of the question?

the answer doesn’t make sense

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know... ive read the book too

i was just playing a long

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

he probably celebrates it as such

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

In his honor,

All of Lohse’s pitches will be splitters.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 15, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any Springfieldians going to the AA game tonight?

I’m in section L, row 11, probably wearing a fair bit of red.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Apr 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

No gamethread today?

Oh well

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Two questions

1) why can I only get Cool Base Authentic jerseys from MLB.com
2) why can’t I get McGwire? Used to be I could get Pettini.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 15, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

can't you make a special jersey?

but instead of your name McGwire?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

thats crazy

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice to see TLR rolled out the starters today

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 15, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I love that play

from Molina.

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Apr 15, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

That's what shannon likes to call

a 1-2-3 inning
lol

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 15, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

is this all an illusion?

are the pitchers this good or are the astros that bad?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Li'l bit o' A, li'l bit o' B...

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 15, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Option 2.

Not that the pitchers aren’t good but Houston may be the worst team I’ve ever seen.

And they will be worse next year.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 15, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes but should i be weary of false optimism?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i went to college with a guy named greg frevert

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, without berkman

and on days when oswalt/wandy aren’t pitching, this team is just horrendous. pedro feliz is hitting third.

by nycbirdo on Apr 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

which begs the question

why didn’t they just sign a bunch of the older FAs that might still be able to hit. It isn’t like they’d be blocking any talent. Their farm system is GAWD AWFUL!

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 15, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 more years of Carlos Lee

Makes me giggle.

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by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

more than 4 (or 5) more years of soriano?

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe a bit

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's got 7 years to get there

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

But Lee came to Houston looking like him.

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by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday's a better hitter now than Lee ever was

and, believe it or not, Lee’s been worth his deal so far. It’s the next 3 years that’re going to hurt. I guess we’ll see much the same with Holliday, albeit with a better bat and better D. He’ll be worth more than his deal for the first 3-4 years, and then considerably less than last few years.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 16, 2010 5:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Astros bad.

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets hope that they figure it out over night

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

they got the cubs or brewers next?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

commenters on BCB hope they win today

a) because it means cards lose, but b) so they don’t come into wrigley 0-9

by nycbirdo on Apr 15, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

we gotta win this game then

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

One could say

their offense is offensive.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Apr 15, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So bud norris is pitching

but Shannon keeps telling us about some Brad Norris. Is this the love child of Bud and Chuck?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 15, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

More likely

the love child of Mike Shannon’s brain and several frosty Buds.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 15, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice

now he’s talking about ex lax and texting

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's are issue right there

Cardinals think we are up against a good pitcher named Brad Norris. We need to let them know we are facing Bud Norris, a really bad pitcher.

by Evilfrog on Apr 15, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wanna see offense today...

Cardinal offense

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Apr 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

HA HA

Shannon just said… “Norris goes through us like… You know”

When a reporter asked Gaylord Perry's 5-year-old daughter if her father threw a spitball, she replied, "It's a hard slider."

by FredbirdisaDork on Apr 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

he's in form today

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Comment #400

Just fyi, Yadi2

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 15, 2010 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

so ... I'm pretty sure things don't get serious yet.

or do they?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 15, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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