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The Good-News Home Opener

ST. LOUIS, MO - APRIL 12: Matt Holliday #7 of the St. Louis Cardinals greets his teammates during pre-game introductions prior to playing against the Houston Astros in the home opener at Busch Stadium on April 12, 2010 in St. Louis, Missouri.  (Photo by Dilip Vishwanat/Getty Images)

The perfect home opener: continued excellence from the big names, who everybody's there to see, anyway; a home run, a great play in the outfield, some flawless pitching, and a game that was brisk and never really in doubt without being a Washington Generals-style walkover. (I'm sure the weather didn't hurt, either.)

Wainwright didn't show any of the problems that tracked him through the first weeks of last season, when he walked 12 in his first three games and struggled to throw even half of his pitches for strikes; this time he came in just under 70% strikes, to go with 65% in his season debut. Through two the best part of his breakout season, that much higher strikeout rate, remains intact, as well. Wainwright's pitching was discussed at length in the game thread—this comment by indakind is definitely worth a look—but the most striking thing about the MLB video highlights is the very different curveball Wainwright was using to cut the Berkman-less Astros ribbons.

The perception one gets from watching it on TV—borne out by PitchF/X, for this one sample—is of a "tighter" curveball, but if it's a different pitch the gains aren't being paid out in velocity; it hangs around his usual curveball range. If he's throwing it as a way of maximizing his command, more power to him. (I was also impressed by the way he used his slider, increasingly the fastball in his fastball-light repertoire, as a strikeout pitch; if he's got two breaking balls that hitters can't make contact with he'll have no problem maintaining his new K/9 rate.) 

As for the player that everyone comes to the home opener to see, the amazing thing is that even now, with a slugging percentage of .963, with a home run in a fifth of his at-bats, Albert Pujols is just barely ahead of the pace of the best month of his career. I can't fault him if he never exceeds that extraordinary April of 2006, where he hit .346/.509/.914, won every other game single-handedly, and gave that withering team exactly the momentum it needed to reach the postseason (and not a bit more), like a guy pushing 162 dominoes over by blowing on the first one. But it's been a great seven games so far, even as far as his great games go.

ESPN projection watch: 116 home runs, 324 RBI. (Though he'll never get the 13 doubles he needs to reach 400 at this rate.)

Star-divide

There are a lot of Amazing Things about Albert Pujols, but as a blogger that's my favorite—you can cut his numbers up a million ways, and ninety percent of those splits are themselves Amazing Things. As I mentioned recently in a comment thread, if he began every at-bat with a 1-2 count his career line, at current rates, would still be .278/.327/.475.

Even yesterday he was busy righting small sample size wrongs—the 31 AB Pujols had against Wandy Rodriguez were, until today, the most at-bats he'd ever gone without homering against an individual pitcher. Now it's 26, versus the sadly unreachable Roger Clemens. Of the pitchers who've gone at least 30 plate appearances against Albert Pujols, Rodriguez is the only one with an OPS-against below .837; 18 of the 30 have an OPS-against over 1.000, culminating with that classic Odalis Perez line of .609/.719/1.391, which does not look at all like a baseball statistic. 

This is the burden of being Albert Pujols, and the pleasure of watching him: we expect more of him than we expect of baseball players, and in 2010, as in 2002, he's delivering. 

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Things do not look good for the Houston Astros—through seven games four of their regulars have a negative OPS+, and were it not for line-drive hitting, shortstop kind-of-playing reserve infielder Jeff Keppinger nobody would be over 100. Their Pythagorean winning percentage is .105. Roy Oswalt is pitching well but has taken two losses, everybody else is pitching badly and has taken five losses. 

There are bad teams out there, but few of them outside Houston acted so like a good team in the offseason. They identified a hole or two and patched it with a decent player, like the Cardinals did with Brad Penny; the difference is that the Astros were missing a whole forest of holes for that one particular tree. When Russ Ortiz, Mike Hampton, and Brian Moehler combine to make 63 starts in one season, signing Pedro Feliz in the next is not a great long-term move. 

But as Tony La Russa would tell you, over and over, one must take things a game at a time. The Astros are bad, but somebody has to lose to them, eventually. 

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I was thinking more....

1. Hit the Mascot
2. HIt the Hot Dog Guy
3. Hit the Mascot (who’s still probably writhing on the ground in pain)
4. Throw it to the screen

At least then he only gets to first base.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Throw his best pitch then back up third?

A pitcher said that in Posnanski’s great piece on Stan Musial but I can’t remember who now.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Apr 13, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was a similar line about George Brett somewhere

where the pitcher said “The best way to pitch him is to work the inside and make him pull the ball. That way, the line drive won’t hit you.” That would work for Perez vs. Pujols — to the extent that anything would.

StanTheManFan
Contributes any way he can.
He's normally a nuclear physicist
Except when writing for this list.

by StanTheManFan on Apr 13, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everything Poz writes

and everything written about the man is good. When both were put together in that article it was fantastic to say the least

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

FS-RM

aired an episode of Baseball’s Golden Age last night, the one which talked about Stan the Man, how good he was, his funny swing, and how he was considered one of the best-liked players in the game.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously...

…like the good Mr. Up said, that line looks less like baseball numbers and more like a conversion table from metric to standard units or something.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 13, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kyle McClellan and PJ Walters...

…have both said, almost identically, that their approach to pitching Pujols would be “Four balls.”

I write a Cardinals blog, Pitchers Hit Eighth.

by Pitchers Hit Eighth on Apr 13, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing seems as pure to me as April Baseball

This is the one time of the year that I don’t really hawk over stats and standings. I just watch the games and soak them in. I have been so deprived of baseball that results hardly matter. I do use the phrase “small sample size” a lot in April though

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 13, 2010 10:36 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

++1

" Baseball is reassuring. It makes me feel as if the world is not going to blow up." - Sharon Olds, This Sporting Life, 1987

by Futility Infielder on Apr 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah letting stats go can sometimes be fun

Once in a while I’ll dumb myself down to Al Hrabosky level (and keep my mouth shut so o don’t hurt anyone ears) and just enjoy watching the game without caring about stats or who is actually good or just lucky, etc. Then I snap back out of it before I talk baseball with anyone and sound like Al or get stuck there

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He said something pretty smart last night (or at least correct)

observing that Kaz Matsui’s fielding percentage was high before coming to the Astros, not because he was a great defender, but because he never got to any balls to make errors on.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Apr 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ryne sandberg

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly what first came to mind

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 13, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 13, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he also

(unknowingly) made a BABIP argument in a previous game. i wonder if he’s been doing some internet or something

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could rename April "Albert"

It’s Albert 13, everyone.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bravo

If two months are already named after Roman emperors, surely Albert deserves a month.

HOWEVER I refuse to call October “Reggie.”

by madridbend on Apr 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well you could call it Jeter

I would prefer Reggie.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't jeter november?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

November 1

All Jetes Day

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I thought November 1 was the date of the True Yankees Day Parade

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought every YEAR was Albert's

Friday the 13th of April comes on a Tuesday this Albert.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

my birthday is albert the 14th

i like it
let’s keep it
april=albert

however, when he crushes may, do we just make may 1=albert 32 and keep on going?

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like it

“what’s today?”

“83rd of albert”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

but if we count from

The Beginning of Time (Apr 2nd 2001)
then today is

Albert the 3298th

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert is the same every day, though.

I suspect his time is cyclical rather than linear.

one of the few points of contention with Amaury Marti Cazana.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

since it is yet to be proven

that albert can’t play forever,
i suppose you’re right about cyclical
my apologies for prematurely suggesting linearity

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's probably unprovable

unless Albert reveals it to us

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Like This...

It can be like the French Revolutionary calendar in which time started from the overthrow of the monarchy and goes forward. Or it could be like D-Day; Albert plus 3,298.

Yes, this we can work with.

by mynameistyler on Apr 14, 2010 11:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

so

May 1: Albert 31
June 1: Albert 62
July 1: Albert 93
August 1: Albert 123
Sept 1: Albert 154
Oct 1: Albert 184

math. I feel dirty.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert 42 is my birthday

Jackie Robinson! Bruce Sutter!

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

same as me

I was going to try to calculate the Albert day for me, but it made my head hurt…

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Apr 13, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This must happen

After sixty-two years as an April Fool I can now celebrate my birthday on the First of Albert.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Apr 13, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

well yey for you

and happy belated birthday

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you

but at my age they never come too late.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Apr 13, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could call the Leap Time

OOT. Ozzie Ordinary Time.

hey, there we go. if we call October “Ozzie” and restart the count there, we could have ourselves a little agricultural calendar.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i like it

let’s do the calendar
it’ll be Albertofstan Standard Time

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

perfect

so Albert Savings Time can take up the regular season… to Albert 183

Ozzie Leap Time
October: Ozzie 1 – Ozzie 31
November: Ozzie 31 – Ozzie 61
December: Ozzie 62 - Ozzie 92 (Christmas Eve is Ozzie 85)
January: Ozzie 93 - Ozzie 123
February: Ozzie 124 – Ozzie 151 or 152
March: Ozzie 152/153 – 182/183

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Christmas Eve Ozzie 85

8+5=13, in numerology 1 is the number of god (gob), 3 for the holy trinity (spring training, season, offseason?)
1+3=4 the 4th dimension (albertofstan)
coincidence? i think not

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking more 1985...

that works

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

stop ruining shit

tee hee

i am liking this calendar business

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is kinda cool

I’ve always wanted to make my own calendar. commercial ones always lack something.

it might be a childhood memory of calendars with tide times on them.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I highly doubt you're the boss of me.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you paying me to not doubt shit?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you're ... not paying me

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

so ...

I can doubt your shit,
and you’re not the boss of me.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

aaah

whatever happened to pro bono work?
/sigh
you americans and your profit

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

we'll need actual printed calendars though, yadi2

to keep track of what the hell day it is

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I was thinking too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

but if we make the pictures all Skip

the Colby fans will complain.
we need someone to pick some hotmakers.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

not me

i’ll pick all Carp
Hotbert Hotjols will be left out on my calendar

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that I think of it

a calendar with pictures might actually run us against the Cardinals org. I think I could get creative with the design* and text, though.

*not a pro designer

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

copyright, not trademark.

non-profit is still swimming around a gray area, last I checked. I’d rather get creative than mess around.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

using our own pictures also a violation?

don’t want to test it out too much
mo’s balls of steel will crush us like a molina with the bases loaded

what if we did it reeeeally quietly?

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, to be honest.

and nothing on VEB is really quiet.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

what if it's

written in really really small font

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm worried that stan isn't involved here

and this is albertofstan. doesn’t he have to get christmas or something?

oh man, panda just got thrown out at the plate. that was like a stampede.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

we could make the weeks six days + off-day.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOTBERT!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

let's hope there's a long post-season

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm.. I dont know about celebrating such holidays in The Albertian Calendar

I mean the Julian Calendar “Christmas” is a day people concentrate on things other than Albert’s ridiculousness. Why not have the Winter Meetings be more like Hanukkah. Each day we hope to get a present. It can be called HotStoveUkkah. Where us Cardinal fans commemorate the deals that made our team who it is past, present, and future.

The next big holiday is the draft. Where we celebrate Albert’s birth into professional baseball. We celebrate by picking sucky presents one at a time with the 13th being the best ever present.

Then the next holiday is Albert the 2nd where we celebrate Albert’s rising from the depths of of the Minors to save us let us commune with the GOB.

by ADMDrayson on Apr 14, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rumorsgiving, where we gather around the Hot Stove and trade gifts

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

as long as there's celebrating

drinks and gifts (see how i added drinks there) and baseball
i’m in

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

or just trade gifs

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Apr 14, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Make February Ozzie 124-151

And leap-day is Ozzie 151a.

That way March always starts on Ozzie 152

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 13, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh you know....

if there’s a February 29
we can just call it Chris Carpenter.

no number.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Approved in my book.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

No no no

Clearly March should be the month of Stan, since before Albert, there was Stan the Man

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 14, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

no worries

the sixth day of the week is Standay.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

My birthday is Albert the 353rd

can anyone beat that for late-in-the-albert-year-ness?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ozzie 170

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh the weather did hurt

hurts today and will hurt for another week
that’s what you get for being fare skinned and never thinking of sun screen
all worth it though

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

I love the centered camera angle that FSMW uses at Busch

As someone who is a big baseball fan but “probably definitely never even played the game” I always hated the slanty at-bat camera angle that was the norm. Knowing so little about pitching to begin with, that convention kept me in a cave of pseudo-knowledge not unlike the allegory told by Socrates to Glaucon.
With that in mind; did Wainwright’s breaking pitch move differently from how his curve usually does? To me it didn’t seem as “12 to 6” as I remember it looking, but I couldn’t tell if it was a camera angle issue or not. Anybody care to enlighten me? Or at least provide the link to indakind’s comment, as I couldn’t participate in the game threads? I’m sure someone will, because VEB is awesome like that, so thanks in advance.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I believe

this is what Dan intended to link. His release point was damn near identical all night, and he changed speed at will. If that’s no tough to hit, I don’t know what is.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

After all that, I had already seen that comment because of the hugeness and the greenness. I had just forgotten that indakind made it so I didn’t realize it was the same one. Silly me…

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

His curveball has never been a true 12-6

It looks that way from the slanty angle, but from the straight-on angle you’ve always been able to see the slight horizontal break.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, his epic curve to Beltran was much more 12-6

and that’s a pitch that tends to stick in our minds.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

and lower.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

eyeballs?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

So my suspicion was correct

Damn slanty angles!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

How visible is Wainer's index finger when he throws the breaking ball?

I am assuming that batters are not able to see it since his results are excellent. But in slow-mo and zoomed in, it looks pretty noticeable.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at yesterday's photo

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

except albert

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Ted

(Yes, even now he could see it.)

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 13, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus

it seems like it’s hidden behind his head for most hitters not named Albert (or Amaury).

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: On the small sample size in April but

The ball for Nelson Cruz of the Rangers must look like a beachball. Just like Albert.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 13, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Allow me to be the first to say...

OFF DAYS SUCK!!

Carry on..

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Apr 13, 2010 10:58 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

It is really frustrating that the first two off days come in the middle of series instead of between them.

However, they better enjoy the rest; after today it’s eight games in a row, then an off day on the 22nd, and then a stretch of 17 games in a row. Great for us fans, but I’ll bet the team will be ready for a day off after that.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is also the first time they've been home for months

they needed this off day & i’m ok with it

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Astros are bad, but somebody has to lose to them, eventually.

the Rams? haha

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

My money's on the Cubs.

And I swear I was going to say that anyway, before I checked and saw that the Astros go to Wrigley right after they finish the series with the Cards.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 13, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

A buddy from college who is an Astros fan begged me to do something to stop us from sweeping them so they don't start 0-9.

It’s really tough for him because he is a smart fan and understands fully just how bad they are.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 13, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i have a really cool friend who is also an astros fan

however, his second favorite team is the cardinals, so it’s not all pain

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's one of the few

The few Astros fans I know actually thought they could compete this year

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they need to really, really, really lose

Their annoyingly perpetual mediocrity-hinting-at-success is the only reason Ed Wade still has a job.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't it a shame?

I really like the Astros. They had good players, played hard, and gave us some fantastic baseball for several years. It’s a shame what’s become of them.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rivalry with them in the Aughts

has made me dislike them more than any other team. Even more than the Cubs. I am incredibly happy they never won a World Series and to see Ed Wade implement a scorched earth policy on their farm system.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t it a shame?

I really like the Astros.

yes, that is a shame

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I enjoy schadenfreude

Especially in the case of delusional people making delusional decisions. Lyon/Feliz deals were funny.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't get the 'Stros

They know the offense has been the problem in the past and continues to be the problem. They’ve been shutout often on a regular basis in the past few years. So signing Feliz is going to replaced Tejada’s O?

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

in their game thread

one of the commenters noted that yadi had as many homers as the stros

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

they also claim to have a catcher coming up

who is better than yadi not only offensively but defensively as well. now that i’d have to see.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

another molina?

cause otherwise, how’s that really going to happen?

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Castro

I thought he might make Houston this year, but they went with Towles backing up Quintero. Towles also will help attendance since he’s a local kid…they’re gonna need all the help they can get drawing fans.

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by TBender on Apr 13, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and look where that got them

i’m also thinking 0-7 won’t draw fans

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Castro wouldn't help much either

This is a bad team.

And they still have years on Lee’s contract. Is it wrong to enjoy that thought?

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by TBender on Apr 13, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

koby clemens

will save the day, if he’s still in their org. i know he’s playing LF now.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

today my astros fan friend

told me with a very sad face “guys you gotta do something, we’re 0-7, it’s plain painful, let us have one”
i told him not to worry, the cubs will lose to them

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Castro is supposedly average behind the plate

so, he’s no Yadi. He probably won’t be much more than an average hitter, either. Although he’s only 23 (24 this year) he hasn’t developed any semblance of power yet. He’s almost certainly not as good a hitter as Yadi is, right now, and I’d say he’ll have to develop some significant pop (he only hit 10 dingers in over 500 PAs last year split between high-A and AA) to surpass him in future years.

He’s a nice enough prospect but he isn’t going to be a real impact guy like Weiters or Mauer.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i got a chuckle

ol pete was in their game thread, and the discussion was on what position did lopex play, and he chimed in “they’re even going to play him in the outfield!”, or something to that effect. just wait till they see our depth chart at catcher on the non-DL roster: yadi – larue – stav – freeze – motte…i mean, seriously, what kind of crazy manager carries 5 catchers.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

"even"?

haha
I dunno, we’re used to crazy Tony. how come other NL Central teams aren’t?

well, Lou might, but I don’t know if he remembers.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

they also suggested constructing the batting order by height

commenter said “i’m serious. you know if they started 0-6, larussa would – we gotta shake it up”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

now I want to know what this batting order is.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

skip would still lead off, right?

unless we went tallest to shortest instead

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

all the heights are listed in the roster page

we could find out.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup!

1. Schumaker – 5’10"
2. Molina – 5’11"
3a. Ryan – 6’2"
3b. Freese – 6’2"
3c. Rasmus – 6’2"
6a. Pujols – 6’3"
6b. Ludwick – 6’3"
8. Holliday – 6’4"
9. Pitcher (assuming it’s Carp or Waino)

Also, Felipe is listed at 6’0", so he’s slot into the two-hole when he plays.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Boog's 6'2"?

Huh…I did not realize he was that tall.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 13, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems about a foot shorter

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems exaggerated to me, too

But it’s not impossible. I know Tulo is about 6’3". I think Hanley and Jeter are both about that tall, as well. And Zobrist, when he plays there. And maybe JJ Hardy.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you look at enough pics of him

standing next to other players, he acutally does look like he might be this tall. I was rather surprised at some of the Boog photos posted this spring.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

his posture is awful.

it comes of having a rubber and steel spine.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at

this picture
boog, freese and colby are standing next to each other. they seem the same height

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a huge ring pop...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec for the work.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

he probably wouldn't have matched oswalt

against halladay, so that’s one win right there

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I don't think Feliz was a bad signing

he’s a somewhat-below-average third baseman signed for below-average money. He won’t hit much but he’s probably nearly as good as Tejada is these days, when D is taken into consideration. He’s cheap and, as the Pirates will tell you, even if you’re totally out of contention, you’ve got to have SOMEBODY playing the 9 positions on the park. Might as well be someone relatively cheap and relatively reliable.

The Lyon deal, however, was just stupid.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the whole premise of the deal though

The Cardinals could have signed him too, since we didn’t have a 3B coming back either, but it would have been a bad signing because we then wouldn’t have signed Felipe Lopez.

The Astros refuse to rebuild. They traded away a good MLB player (Luke Scott) and gutted their farm system to get Miguel Tejada (awful idea at that point in his career), and they won’t trade Berkman or Oswalt even though they probably should have 2 years ago. They also won’t go all-in by signing top flight free agents to help them win. They’re in no-man’s land in terms of organizational strategy. They should either go all-in for the next 2-3 seasons or blow the whole thing up — winning 75 games because you don’t want to rebuild is just a stupid strategy.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

When you see a game in their park

you get some sense of what the team is up against. The fans absolutely do not get what a bad situation their team is in, by and large.

Wife and I are trying to catch an MLB game in each of the 30 teams’ home parks. I’m more than half way there, and ‘Stros fans are clearly the most clueless of any I’ve yet observed. Worse, they’re starting to behave like Cubs fans.

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by StanTheManFan on Apr 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree more with this, unfortunately

I went to college in Houston and went to quite a few ’Stros games, mostly in 02-03. They used to have “Family Night” on Monday nights, where we could walk from campus to the park, providing we had pre-gamed properly anyway, and get an upper deck seat for a buck. Then sneak down into the lower level, obviously.

Long story short, I’ll never forget the play when the right fielder — I’m thinking it was Richard Hidalgo — made this amazing sliding catch after covering what looked like about 60 yards on a popup in foul territory. He slides into the wall, makes the catch, and the runner on 2nd tags up and takes off for third. Hidalgo pops up, throws a strike to 3rd base but doesn’t get the call on a bang-bang play. I’m already standing up to applaud the effort, because it was a fantastic defensive play. The other 14,000 or so people in the stands — booing. I’m sure they were booing the ump, but still… I just couldn’t believe how dense and just generally unsupportive/ignorant the fans were. I even told my buddy at the time “if we were in Busch Stadium right now, 45 thousand people would be giving him a standard ovation for almost pulling off that assist from the opposite corner of the fucking field!”

So yeah, their fans suck, is the main theme I’m trying to get across in this part of the presentation.

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by el birdo in soko on Apr 13, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

standard ovation???

it’s too early in the morning for me to be talking, apparently.

In the poker game of life, women are the rake.

by el birdo in soko on Apr 13, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldn't tell ya...

moved away from houston in 2004 and haven’t been back since. i miss the tex-mex, but not much else.

In the poker game of life, women are the rake.

by el birdo in soko on Apr 13, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

if only chuck was still here, he'd fill us or

or yourdog, whatever happened to yourdog?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Though they still pipe the crowd noise through the speakers.

I wonder if this year they’ll pipe the crickets too…

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by TBender on Apr 14, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Astros fans...

…are Texan fans who can’t afford tickets to Reliant Stadium. They think they’re watching a football game and act as such.

Case in point…Darryl Kile’s first year away from Houston. He pitched the opener in the ’Dome (with the Rockies), and some idiots proudly displayed a “Die Darryl Die” sign. The usher was booed when he booted them.

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by TBender on Apr 13, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the way I felt in the late 70's

and the early 90’s, when it seemed like they did nothing right.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

rotoworld has the news.

Larue to DL; pags coming up.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 11:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

F&*#!

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

anderson even hit a sad little HR

The other day, as if to say – sad eeyore voice – “I know you don’t like me, but won’t you at least think about me?” Gah.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

So if Pags broke his wrist tomorrow

what would happen? Stav catching? Is there a scenario where Anderson gets to play with the big club?

"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill

by lordsummer on Apr 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

remember when allen craig came up

To take over third base from an obviously not-ready-for-prime-time joe thurston?

Me neither.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

David Freese would be called into action!

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
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by Taskmaster on Apr 13, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i bet he'd be tugging on tony's jersey

“skip, skip, hey…i can catch. skip…” i think tony just hears music in his mind; just haven’t figured out what he’s listening to.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce Springsteen.

Isn’t he a huge – like, really huge – Springsteen fan? I think I saw that somewhere some time.

I once shot a man just to see him die...then I got distracted and missed it.

by TheDuke32 on Apr 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

maybe

bruce hornsby is the one always at spring training though

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's just the way it is.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Things will never be the same

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

The line "Standin' in line, marking time"

always reminds me of marching band, lol

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

jd, please go away

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aw

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't go away mad dude

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

All in just, of course

We love you, man.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pedro Bourbon??

Vote for Pedro!
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Apr 13, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

And all your wildest dreams will come true...

/love that movie with a passion

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 13, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

My Wildest Dreams Involve...

…a midget, a sock puppet, talcum powder, and a case of creamy peanut butter. Oh, and Gillian Anderson.
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Gillian Anderson, yesss.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

funny you mention all that. true story. one night i was…we’ll talk about it later.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're crazy cow, i mean i like you, but dude you're crazy

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, 3000+ comments in the guise of a masculine

Cow with udders later, the post about fantasizing about gillian anderson – one shared by about 70 percent of men between 25 and 40 in this country – makes you say he’s crazy?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 7:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

gdm will get it eventually

just be patient

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he doesn't like all that, too

he is obviously not my IBFAM

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm gonna have to ponder this

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

mull it over

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

he knows what is in the sock?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

sshhh gdm is too young to know these things

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't wanna know!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually it was the midget

i’m down will Ms Anderson Tom

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't notice he said a case,

HFS® cow

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was just what made it awesome.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet it was Skippy

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I'll rec it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not till later, though...

… Memphis is playing right now at Des Moines and Pagnozzi – who’s 0-for-4 on the season as I type this – is catching today.

Presumably, he’ll be on the plane to St. Louis as soon as the Memphis game is over.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2010_04_13_mrbaaa_iowaaa_1

As for Anderson, it’s obvious the Cards have no plans to ever use him in the major leagues. His only chance at a career now is to get off to a hot start, prove he’s healthy, and then for the Cards to trade him somewhere where they’ll let him play. Mets, maybe.

by Jmodene on Apr 13, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

is solano in memphis?

i saw he was 0-17 or so, but not sure if that’s on the season or his last 17 ab’s.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

According to Future Redbirds

he started the season with a hit, and has worn the collar since.

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by StanTheManFan on Apr 13, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

As for Anderson, it’s obvious the Cards have no plans to ever use him in the major leagues.

Duly-filed under “Overreaction.”

Bryan Anderson, as a 23 yr-old, had a sub-.700 OPS in his injury-marred time at AAA last year. Perhaps we could all see how a healthy Anderson does this year in AAA before giving ourselves whiplash on his future prospects.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Apr 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same with Daryl Jones in Springfield

before we go writing him off as a potential impact prospect.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interestingly

Colby Rasmus had a ho-hum spring after an injury riddled 2008 at Memphis and still made the team.

Clearly he’s a better player than Anderson, but there’s not as big of a gap between Rasmus and John Jay as there is between Anderson and Pagnozzi.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope there's a huge gap between rasmus and jay

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is

But Bat Gagz is just that bad. Rasmus minor league OPS=.851, Jay a .788 (albeit much older at every rung), difference of 63 points. The difference between Anderson’s worst season of .692 and Gagz average .578 is still 114 points.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost double.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i understand that pagz sucks

just saying the difference between rasmus and jay is far more important. not sure how to explain my point succinctly, but would you rather have rasmus/pagz or jay/anderson?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

well obviously

as Jay hasn’t even made the majors. it’s not a fair comparison.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

so put jay in the majors for a year and i'll ask again

i’m just talking about how a small numerical difference can be of greater importance than a much larger one…or something like that.

also, it’s not my fault jay hasn’t made it to the majors – that’s all on him.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

If I had to start Rasmus + Pagnozzi, I’d rather start Jay + Anderson as early as next year when they are big league ready. Pagnozzi is that bad.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

you are either not a colby fan or a big jay fan. colby is the only big-leaguer in the bunch, and likely a future all-star.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither

I’m a big Colby fan and Jay is a 4th outfielder. I’d rather start a 4th outfielder/decent hitting catcher than the All-Star/worse-than-a-pitcher-catcher. That’s just how bad Gagnozzi is.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, tony is crazy but not that crazy i hope

i’m not saying pags defensive reputation is deserved, but anderson’s might be. also, pags seems to be able to recall dunc’s game plan, ATD, whereas i suspect anderson has less than stellar recall.

i guess jay could potentially be a 4th of’er somewhere, so i shouldn’t have said he wasn’t a big-leaguer at all. we’ll see if he can get there. i’m hoping someone wants him.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're right, Rasmus is a budding star

But even if he hits like Jim Edmonds, you’re almost better off with Anderson and Jay than with Rasmus and Pagnozzi. You’re essentially batting two pitchers EVERY GAME if Pags is in the lineup. He’s atrocious offensively.

FWIW, I would bet the Wainwright and Carpenter would finish with a higher OPS+ combined than what Pags would put up over a full season.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you "almost better off" or are you better off?

at the end of the day we’re talking about 2 light-hitting catchers, one of whom is considered a better defender/pitch-caller than the other. and two of’ers, one of whom is light-hitting but good defensively and the other strong-hitting and even better defensively. seems obvious which pair to take.

now, if you can involve math and prove me wrong, i’ll gladly concede the point, but i’d still take rasmus/pagz.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean it's all hypothetical, but by CHONE

Pags is -1.2 Wins below replacement, Jay actually projects to an averageish +2, Rasmus +3.5 and Anderson +1, so yeah it’d be 2.3 < +3. Rasmus is probably better than that and not too sure about Jay being that good, but the point is………Gagnozzi is terrible.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i think with real colby and jay numbers

the colby duo wins…but we agree on one thing.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caveat

CHONE’s defensive projections for catchers are highly questionable, which makes this comparison slightly unreasonable. It’s entirely possible Anderson is a lot worse at catching than CHONE thinks (Pags likewise).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

That was exactly my point — having Pagnozzi on the 40 man makes no sense, much less on the active roster. There are better options on the minor league free agent market and better options have been available in the Rule 5 in both of the past 2 seasons. Why he’s still in the organization is beyond me.

No matter how good his defense is, it will never, ever make up for his putrid offense.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and from what I've seen, his defense is pretty bad.

I have no idea where his reputation as a good defensive catcher comes from.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

"i don't know about all these passed balls either, tony. . . .

but he showed us a VERY official-looking diploma from the catcher defensive proficiency school at east carolina technical a &m!"

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I first pulled VEB up today on my phone

The angle everyone was at and the pic being tiny made it look like the cards did an opening day riverdance and I was like “waht did I miss?!” but I went into the post where the pictures much bigger and now see that they were just high fiving Holliday
  image1.jpg

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Damn it the image didn't work

Will somebody put up the Internet high five because I failed to?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Do you mean this?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

Thank you

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 4:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

fail.png

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's just Wainwright's #2 curve, isn't it?

Or at least that’s what I call it. He has displayed 2 curveballs. One in the low 70s that’s bigger, and one in the mid 70s that’s tighter. That looked like the tighter curveball that’s usually at like 75, but in the video examples it’s at 73.

by sdrone on Apr 13, 2010 11:19 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I watched moost of the game...

…on tv when I got home from work: Wainy’s curve was knee-buckling. I felt bad for the hitters for a brief second before I smiled like a 5 year old in a candy store. And the slider/off-speed looked great too. This cud be his year!
:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Apr 13, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

What kind of corporation hires a cow?

Oh right, Chick-fil-A

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

the ecownomy is still lean

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, so YOU'RE the one

who provided Matt Foley his government cheese!

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

"These Teats We're Made Fer Milkin', and That's Just What They'll Do...."

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

exaggerating there, Moo?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

cosmootic

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that's funny

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever he was throwing...

had a lot more horizontal “slide” on it than his typical 12-6 curveball. It definitely wasn’t the slider though because it didn’t have that sweeping motion and it was only clocking in the low 70’s.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 13, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

So are we talking a slurve?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

liveblog question

well, this is a bad idea in that 1) I don’t have time, 2) I’m not at 100%, 3) I’m asking about something Al said.

did Al say elder Rasmus made Colby hit and catch lefty? is he saying Colby’s actually a righty?

all I caught was “that’s what you call a retirement plan”, which is as obvious as Al gets these days, short of slow Molinas.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

(I should say I come from a background where my grandparents were forced to switch to right-handedness in school...

some of the so-called ambidextrous members of my family were actually trained to the right hand. So this ain’t new.)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I caught some of that

It was one of those things that was said, I became mildly interested, and then it was done without further explanation. I’m not sure where they were going with it. Maybe he’s a RHP.

by WyoCardsFan on Apr 13, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

closer?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Every game's like every other game. Go out there when the phone rings, do my job. Get my stuff working, get three outs, go home."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

he has longer sentences now.

no lie, I have him recorded saying “Oh my goodness gracious whew!”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

he must be evolving

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

but the dude looked like a douche

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he was colby's older brother for awhile

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, which eye is his dominant eye?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 13, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

But if he started as a right hander and his dad forced him into being a lefty,

wouldn’t his left eye be dominant?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 13, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone verify for me that this happened

i think someone posed the question. i do not believe that happened, but it would only pertain to batting, like ichiro’s father made him bat left, but ichiro still throws righty and hits the ball the other way. colby is a natural left thrower, and i would bet a natural lefty batter.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you know he's a natural lefty thrower?

They actually said that from young age, Colby’s dad made Colby “do everything” left-handed.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 13, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know how to settle this

experiment with babies.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am in favor of this

Az might have issues

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll bring the bags & sticks

i’m sure Az will eventually run out

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know how to settle this

experiment with babies
/fixed

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's handedness, not handsyness.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

who said? who is "they"? i've missed this article.

if his dad is this big baseball guy he’s made out to be, of course he wouldn’t have colby throw lefty, the ideal being a righty thrower/lefty batter. i can hit as well lefty as righty, but throwing is a different matter. and if he were naturally ambidextrous, i think the father would choose the throwing from the right side, since you are not thereby limited positionally.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Al, I would think...? top of thread.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

gah, typing fail

relevant graphic:
http://www.flipflopflyin.com/flipflopflyball/info-lrs.html

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm missing something

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless he was thinking "lefty pitcher."

It was during the telecast yesterday.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 13, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, i saw the question posed above

because the viewer didn’t get what he was saying exactly. if someone saw it and understood, please chime in. nobody in their right mind would intentionally make their little baseball player throw lefty, being a coach as mr. rasmus is. you would like them to bat lefty, yes, and that is doable, a la ichiro or switch-hitters.

also, if daddy wanted him to pitch, he would want him throwing with his stronger (natural) hand.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

well for what it's worth

elder Rasmus himself said he knew Colby was major league material from the day he could walk. I’m not even sure he was joking.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure he wasn't

there are definitely kids you can tell. that said, it’s a long road from that to actually getting them there, with all sorts of potential pitfalls, so i give mr. rasmus a lot of credit, and colby is probably pretty happy with the way things turned out. damn, i am – i think he’s my first man-crush.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you need a towel?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did blush when i typed that

eh, the closet was stuffy anyway.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My friend is this way

His dad made him lefty when he was little for baseball reasons, which, if you knew this family, is more hilarious than it is creepy. In any case, he turned out to be a pretty decent college player, so I guess it worked out.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you're saying he throws left, chances are the parents didn't make him

anything he wasn’t already.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

His dad made him stop throwing righty and start throwing lefty

He still kicks with his right leg, for what that’s worth.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hhmmm, not sure about the kicking

this is getting complicated. but i changed a kid at age 9 from righty to lefty, only because i realized he really was a lefty, but the parents had no idea, this being a righty world (even though he wrote lefty and batted lefty). he was ok righty, but not natural at all. he’s a good player now with a good arm, but would have gone nowhere throwing righty. i throw lefty sometimes for fun, but there’s a big difference. nobody is making mlb by switching their throwing hand.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am a natural lefty

and i was turned into a righty ( why, I don’t know). I think if I would have stayed a lefty I would be a MLB reliever right now (slightly hyperbolic)

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

you have a case. read my last line of above comment. you could probably sue.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't the greatest pitcher

in fact, I had little control, but I could hit 85 righty, I always wondered what I could have hit if I would have been left a lefty from the start

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

85 is pretty good

I wish I could throw close to that.

So how does that Venditte dude work? I am surprised that has not come up in this thread.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i assume he's just ambidextrous

i coached a guy like that, pitched him both ways. anybody know if one side or the other is considered better, or more velocity?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

good article

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 13, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also peaked at 85-87 (can probably still throw 80-83)

And anytime I wonder about what could have happened if I was a lefty, I think about Christian Friedrich. I played with him through most of little league, and we were on about the same level. But he was a lefty…look where he is now.

Of course, he started throwing 90 in high school, so there’s that.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i was 2 inches taller & had stronger wrists i could've been awesome

but alas, i’m left to ponder the what if’s & drink

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Scotch still loves me

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scotch will always love you

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yessssss Scott Rovak pics

http://scottrovak.zenfolio.com/dailys

There’s something to do… look at photos.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG.

good try.
http://scottrovak.zenfolio.com/dailys/h109dff#h109dff

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

for that link
immediately brightened up my day

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

love that one of AP squatting in the on-deck circle.

like he’s scoping out his next victim

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 13, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

bat up, right?

I noticed he never goes up there wholly unaware or unprotected after Encarnacion.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna threadjack for a quick minute.

Is there any particularly great place to eat in New Orleans that I should visit. I’m going redfishing down there for the next 3 days, and we usually hit downtown at least once.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Apr 13, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

there's like two or three guys

maybe they’re still… uh… asleep.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep, just walked in

not really, but i’ll give eckstreem a couple recommendations:

first and foremost, Adolfo’s, at 611 Frenchman St. in the Marigny, just beyond Esplanade, which is a border of the Quarter. it’s a staple for people-in-the-know (in other words, locals and the movie folk). billed as creole/italian food, it’s a quaint joint upstairs from a bar that was just rented out for Treme. i suggest oysters pernod to start (out of this the other day – bummer for me), and then any of their offered fish WITH THE OCEAN SAUCE – best thing in the world. no reservations, so you leave your name and go downstairs to drink until they come down to get you. cash only. great dinner for two with a bottle of house wine probably 80 bucks. and then you can go back downstairs for some music (the bar is not affiliated with the restaurant), or across the street to cafe negril or snug harbor. anyway, if you have one evening in new orleans, it should be spent on frenchmen street, not in the quarter, and include OCEAN SAUCE.

secondly, if you want to gorge on oysters and maybe have a little gumbo, casamento’s, uptown at 4330 magazine street is an icon. same family there for the last 100 years, it’s only open sept-may, and tue-sat for lunch and thur-sat for dinner. it’s an early place, probably closes up around 9:30, so here’s the phone number: 895-9761.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brennan's is amazing

Great Creole food.

I also like Bourbon House for their oyster bar (another Brennan family restaurant)

I’ve heard very good things about Gabrielle and Dooky Chase but I’ve never been to either — we ran out of days before we hit all the restaurants we wanted to hit when we were there.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not from there

so I don’t know all the good local haunts that some of the other guys probably do.

You really can’t go wrong with a local independent restaurant in New Orleans though…it’s just that a lot of those didn’t make it back after Katrina, which is sad.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brennan's is great in STL too...

Beer, Bourbon, and smokes…

Brenden Ryan is my hero...

by pattimagee on Apr 13, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Angeli's on Decatur has one of my favorite burgers of all time

And really good pizza too. Plus its open super late, perfect for lunch or drunk-eating before/after/during a night out in the french quarter. Not exactly New Orleans-specific fare though.

(FYI this was like 6 years ago though, not certain if it still exists post-Katrina.)

by all4tookie on Apr 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

it does

and it’s still damn good

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

August is considered the best restaurant in the city right now

It’s a John Besh place, but it’s quite pricey. My favorite place is probably Coop’s Place, a dive bar on Decatur that has great Creole food. Are you looking for New Orleans food in particular? You could check out this web site: http://www.nomenu.com/open/index.html. It’s got restaurants organized by cuisine and neighborhood. And then you can always google the restaurant and check out their menu/prices, but that site has a lot of reviews, too.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

we are heading down there in October

And plan on stopping by August and enjoying the “Degustation”

by Evilfrog on Apr 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

you can't go wrong there

i’m in grad school, so i haven’t been to August yet. But I have admired from afar.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on how much you want to spend

Expensive: Jacque-Imo’s on Oak street in uptown is my personal favorite.
Commander’s Palace in the Garden District is pretty fantastic as well.
Palace Cafe on Canal Street downtown is pretty rocking. Try the crab cheesecake.

Middling prices: Taqueria Corona on Magazine Street (best Mexican)
Theo’s Pizza on Magazine
Mother’s Restaurant on Poydras downtown. some of the best food you will ever have.

Cheap: Ummmm… Hot dog stands, RAISING CANES!

Hope that helps

by LandSickness on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jacque-Imo's Rocks

One of my personal favorites. From walking through the kitchen to get to the dining area to eating in the back of the pickup truck out front. Great food, amazing atmosphere. I personally didn’t find it that expensive but was usually too looped to care.

by Green Man! on Apr 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emeril's Nola in the French Quarter

is my favorite restaurant in the City. I always enjoy myself there.

But by far the most respected restaurant in the city is Commander’s Palace in the Garden District. There’s a great little restaurant by the same owners in the Lowe’s Hotel. Food there is pretty good too, but if you want the experience, go to the source, go to Commander’s.

Bon Ton Cafe has a great bread pudding – - lots of whiskey in it.

Been to August. Very pricey, and it’s … what’s the word … avant garde? Let’s just say it has an unusual menu.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Apr 13, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

when was the last time you were at commander's?

friends in from chicago went there the other night and were not so impressed. could’ve just been a bad nite, so i’m curious. not sure that it’s the most respected restaurant in new orleans, either, but not really sure what that means.

ever eaten at a place called upperline? i guess it’d fall into that category with commander’s, but haven’t eaten there, though it’s right down the street from me (and bmorgan, for that matter).

also, the place i recommended above – adolfo’s – i’d suggest to you also. it’s bistro casual rather than formal dining, but for some new orleans cuisine is excellent – the friends from chicago thought it better than commander’s when we went the following nite. it’s also not touristy like brennan’s or commander’s. in fact, the non-touristy equivalent of commander’s might be the restaurant i enquired about – upperline.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been to upperline once

and i really enjoyed it. I got some thing where you got 5 dishes for $30 or something like that. Different creole tastes. It was a lot of food and very good. My g/f got the gulf fish meuniere and was very disappointed, though.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

yeah, like i said about commander’s, my friends were disappointed, but who knows what they ordered, etc. i ordered for them at alfonso’s and they loved it – i basically order the same thing every time – whatever fish with the ocean sauce (the sauce a meal in itself), so who knows, some of their dishes might suck, but they are also best-known for their lamb, so i’ll probably try that next time.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm gonna have to try that place

i love frenchmen street. one of our really good friends just started bartending down there, too.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it's great to even walk around on the street with a beer and listen in

i never venture into the quarter. and alfonso’s is really good, from what i’ve had, and i’ve been spoiled from years of eating in paris. you might end up with an hour wait, who knows, just depends on how many are waiting, but it’s always full. i think the movie crowd has discovered it.

saw richard gere the other day standing alone in front of st louis cathedral when my friends wanted to go to cafe du monde. also, that movie shooting here with willis and freeman, they rented my buddy’s cafe for three days. didn’t know that freeman can’t basically use his left arm. they left a script behind that my buddy has – think he said the movie was called “red” or something similar.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geez, thanks guys.

Y’all are awesome!!! I’ll throw some ideas around and hopefully remember at least flashes of where we ate. The thing about being down there is that my buddies that I fish with usually start drinking at about 9:30 a.m. and It’s tough to keep up.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Apr 13, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

video

Globe-Dem
Clydesdales
Hall of Famers
player introductions
audio and video in the sidebar

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

P-D

video
sights and sounds

photos
Cards fans
pre-game

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

dangit, missed

actual game

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

aha, found it

the players et al who scurried out of the entrance to actually watch the Clydesdales, instead of being stuck in the tunnel:

Franklin
LaRussa
Penny
McClellan
LaRue
Hawksworth

and I think that was Lohse with the camera.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was still waiting outside trying to get in, dammit

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 13, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scout.com has a collection

same stuff, just all in one page

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

SportsCenter is talking about Clausen's tiny hands.

no, like: “I don’t think they’ll take him. He has TINY hands.”

whoa.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

apparently!

Todd whatsisname was really, really emphatic about it. he was almost outraged that anyone would take this man WITH HIS TINY, TINY HANDS.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

apparently it would be awful in the cold of Buffalo.

would they shrink…?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

how you pick your nose?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I once had a professor in a circuits class

It was about using Kirchoff’s nodal equations. Anyways, he said, “In order to solve the problems, you have to first pick your nodes.” The whole class cracked up, and he didn’t know what was going on.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh nodes he didn't

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

JaMarcus Russell

has huge hands….and he sucks. We’ve officially run out of shit to talk about before the draft. Joe Montana had small hands, Jim Druckenmiller had huge hands. Which one is in the HOF?

I like Claussen and I think he’s going to be a solid NFL starter. Everyone seems to be enamored with Bradford, and I’m just not sure he’s going to be able to live up to that hype.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was this side of ridiculous, yeah

but that’s why I keep it on in the background. the comedy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd just love for my job to be

evaluating the NFL or NBA draft. Do you even have to do anything besides go on camera and have nice hair? You can just go on camera and say a bunch of stupid crap about someone and everyone assumes you’re telling the truth because of your contacts. If you’re at #7 and you want Claussen to fall to you, don’t you call up Todd McShay and tell him you don’t like Claussen because his hands are “smallish” or that he has blonde hair and isn’t 6’5" and there currently are no blonde haired QB’s shorter than 6’5" who are successful in the NFL right now? That his frosted tips show signs of poor character? I mean, how much of this garbage is just disinformation?

Didn’t we learn from Peter Vecsey that we shouldn’t trust column writers with a nice Rolodex?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

on... I wanna say TruTV, because I was surprised by the sleazy channel

some kind of behind-the-scenes NFL documentary (cough), and they did the draft. man, what a production. it was almost more complicated than the pieces they did on the games.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with all of this.

Todd McShay is a tool. Bradford isn’t that much better than Clausen, etc.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 13, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's something to it, of course

but big hands alone don’t make you a quarterback. it’s an asset is all, as it is in pitching (koufax, pedro), or basketball obviously.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, not just because of Clausen.

I just don’t like the guy. I am more of a Kiper guy I guess.

But hands can be part of it, but that’s nowhere near a definitive reason to choose one guy over another.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 13, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say that in this day and age

You have a number of guys every year that look that part and don’t make it. Then you have Drew Brees, who Todd McShay would describe as “too short” and “weak armed” reviving a city and a franchise by winning the Super Bowl while also beating the best QB in the league.

If you can play, YOU CAN PLAY. Regardless of your pedigree. Part of the problem with the Raiders is that they get enamored with the combine and physical tools but never actually look and see if those guys can actually play football. Bill Parcells has made an entire career out of drafting and signing guys who don’t look the part, but when you put them on the field, they make all the plays (Zach Johnson, Brian Cox, etc.)

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ugh...rough start to my day

Meant to say Zach THOMAS, not the native Iowan Masters’ Champion Zach Johnson.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

those commercials creep me the f out, and there's not much that can do that

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rasmus question.....

During one of the games this weekend, maybe on Saturday, I thought the announcer said that Colby had some disagreements or something with his father last year, and that might have been part of the reason for the year he had. I don’t remember that being talked about at all. I know there was talk about Colby’s dad not being happy with how he was being handled by the Card’s, but nothing about Colby and his dad. Did I miss this?

As for Pagz getting the call up, I have no problem with it. I’m no expert on minor leaguers, and starting their clocks, but it doesn’t seem to make much sense to call up Anderson to sit on the bench for two weeks, and also starting his clock. I have to think the Card’s are hoping he has a good year, and possibly becomes trade bait again. If that is the case, he certainly has more value playing full time in AAA without having his clock started.

by SoonerfanTU on Apr 13, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

there's a front page post on it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I no see it.

What’s it called?

Gracias.

by SoonerfanTU on Apr 13, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh man sorry

I’m trying to think of the title, but it was probably a clever DanUp title.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Strauss did a P-D story on it during Spring Training,

about how Colby sired a child and how the family hid it from his dad for fear of his reaction, etc.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

DANG. Not sure how I missed that one. That certainly explains some things.

BTW…..nice use of the word “sired”. :)

by SoonerfanTU on Apr 13, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'll live to regret these words...
As for Pagz getting the call up, I have no problem with it.

All joking aside, I am thrilled that Pagz Lite was called up during the Memphis at Iowa series. Now, I don’t have to watch him attempt to hit AAA pitching, not throw basestealers out when they steal on him, and do a poor job of blocking balls in the dirt. My week just got better.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat related, everyone needs to get MiLB.tv like yesterday.

I don’t know if you have it, but I would highly recommend it (as much as one can rec something after one day of use).

by all4tookie on Apr 13, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends.

I have a brief due tomorrow. If I can get it done, I may sneak down tonight. I am definitely planning on attending tomorrow evening and may take a two-hour lunch of Thursday for a chunk of the noon game.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was pissed

when I looked at the schedule and saw that two of them were day games — what a crock of shit.

Hopefully I can catch them the second time through this summer.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happens every April.

While this week’s weather has been wonderful, the average high is in the low-to-mid-60s for Des Moines this time of year. They schedule the day games to avoid the cold nights that usually occur. Although, I don’t think I could envision a nicer night for baseball than what this evening will be like in terms of weather.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are underrating how bad Gagz is

We’re talking about a guy who would have to take a massive leap in ability to become a replacement level player. League minimum FAs like Paul Bako, Rob Bowen, Kevin Cash etc are terrible MLB players, and they are still a lot better than Gagz. .210 .286 .292 in the minors shouldn’t get you out of A-ball, let alone accrue a single day’s worth of MLB service time. This whole thing is a complete joke.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He will though.

Yadi won’t play for two weeks straight without a day off

by all4tookie on Apr 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

One game won't kill us

and, realistically, the difference in quality between Pags and “any other catcher not called Yadier in the system” right now is probably minimal, even if he’s the everyday starter for a fortnight.

I’m personally filing this piece of news under “I don’t really give a shit”. Kinda agree with soonerfan, too, in that I’d rather Bryan Anderson play every day in Memphis and try to get his stroke back, without starting his MLB service clock.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean I shouldn't be hyperventilating

over 5 PAs in April? How dare you suggest such a notion.

I would rather just let Stav man the dish. Haters gonna hate.

by all4tookie on Apr 13, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is

It’s pointless not to sign a Bako or Bowen for the league minimum to play those couple of games. They are better players and Gagz simply is not a big league player, he’s not even a AAA player. He’s a AA “give the prospect pitcher comfort that you can block the ball so he can progress” player.

It’s not gonna cost us the playoffs or anything, but the thought process that someone that bad can get PT is bothersome.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

bothersome?

i kinda like – it means i still have a chance.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Signing Bako

to a contract would have to include the ability to demote him to Memphis, which he might not really want to do. Otherwise, signing Bako to the league minimum would cost the Cards $400k, since he would be released once LaRue was healthy. Bringing up Pags to ride the bench and maybe start two games in 15 days would cost the Cards $35k.

As far as my overall feeling about the “call up”, I feel the need to quote the robot – “… I’m predisposed to disgruntlement when I see them on the field.”

by ubeddie on Apr 13, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer being gruntled

but it’s hard when it’s Gagnozzi.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah,

it gives hope to the rest of us. some people really do fall (up) through the cracks

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nick Stavinoha

introduced as sometime catcher in pre-game ceremony.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gags: .210/.286/.292 in ~1500 MiL PAs
Wainwright: .242 /.264/.372 in ~250 ML PAs

by all4tookie on Apr 13, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

but can waino catch?

aha, see – there’s the rub.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure there are some first pitches somewhere

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

one day he'll get the Molinas to adopt him

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMGPAGZLOL

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd because looza sounds like "loser"

and that’s even funnier

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 13, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

this was the last defense for putting

Players like shane robinson and nick stavinoha on the field last year. “How much does the 25th man count for?” Well, if he doesn’t belong in the bigs at all, well over a win.

A win isn’t the end of the world, especially if it’s done to further some larger goal, like trying out a prospect or getting someone playing time. But to just ignore a better player for a worse one? I don’t think that’s justifiable.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 12:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The proof of the pudding is in the eating? I know it's early... but maybe a little evidence?
Without offering detail, Rasmus acknowledged an uneven relationship with hitting coach Hal McRae, whom La Russa replaced with Mark McGwire less than three weeks after the Cardinals’ loss in the NL Division Series. McGwire represents a more comfortable fit. Rasmus has related what he believes are the keys to his swing, and McGwire has tailored his input accordingly.

BB’s/PA
2009 36/520
2010 9/27

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's walked a third of his PA's?

man, i knew he was a walkapotamoose or whatever, but never really thought about the numbers.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's one behind Barton, Dunn, and Markakis for most in MLB, with fewer PA.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 13, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he doesn't become a passive walkapotamoose

Passive Walkapotamoose get hunted by the Ks.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/6269/walkapotamoose2.png

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

...that *is* a walkapotamoose.

it’s a moose and a hippo. unless you want some further modifications, in which case I’m all for it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't your sister get bit by a moose?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

no realli!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mind u moose bites can be pretty nasty

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

correction

I’m all for it if they know how to use anti-alias.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

then by all means

i’m mostly sad that due to a photoshop brainfail, I don’t have a larger version. but it’s for the best. it’s thread-usable.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

TL;DR

What do I need to do? Cliffs notes.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 13, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

RiverRat is the one who wants to fix the walkpotamoose.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Something like this


But better, with a hat, and maybe Colby riding it.

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by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

eeehhhh

the stuffed one has a better resemblance to Colby IMO

and Colby doesn’t ride. he walks.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

dangolwalkinpotomoosehandpuppetthingcuteasanewbornchickitellyouwhat

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by The Continental on Apr 13, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

one more unrelated handpuppet reference, and that'll be the kismet thread theme.

which happens frequently now. it’s WEIRD.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

now I feel obligated to post the picture.

eerie resemblance, i tell you.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's been working on it since july, too.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

something tells me

moocow will approve of whatever is going on here.

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

is he pro-moose?

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

vs pro hippopotamus?

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's dangerous to be pro-hippo

a healthy respect, perhaps.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would guess yes

anything with a moo in it works

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am glad you enjoy its unlikely charms.

much like Colby’s walk-rate.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

anecdotey. elder Rasmus said in his in-seat interview

now colby doesn’t call him all the time about his swing, now that Mac’s there. so he can “be a dad and not a coach”

that’s pretty much verbatim, though someone can confirm.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

(I'll leave the soulmate comment to someone else.)

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS

In seven games, he’s walked a quarter of his entire 2009 total. that’s pretty amazing, actually.

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by IHeartBoog on Apr 13, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you on this.

The Cardinals have made the statement at AAA that Anderson is their guy. Anderson’s clock doesn’t need to start yet and he’s better off getting regular playing time at Memphis. Let Pags ride the pine for two weeks in STL. No big thing. The difference between LaRue and Pagz for say 8 at bats is, what, a quarter run?

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by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that's true

I feel a lot better about it.

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by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Using Zips

Over 600 PAs, offensive runs below average
Anderson: 12
LaRue: 22
Pagnozzi: 30

On a per PA level
Anderson: .02
LaRue: .037
Pagnozzi: .05

Difference between LaRue & Pagnozzi over 10 PAs: ~One tenth of a run

If the team isn’t going to play Anderson as a backup for Molina prior to the start of the season, then I have a hard time advocating that they should do otherwise for a callup. But we’re approaching the point (read: 2011) where there’s just not a good reason to sign some crappy backup rather than let Anderson play every 7th day in the bigs.

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by azruavatar on Apr 14, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

yah

that was my point pretty much. There’s no point bringing Anderson up to sit on the bench for a fortnight.

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did anyone see this anywhere?

This is from FESPN:

According to Cardinals statistics, none of the 21 batters he faced swung and missed.

Not quite sure how official those stats are…but very intriguing if they are true.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting

There was a discussion on VEB last summer about Wandy because a lot of us can’t figure out why he’s been so unhittable. He doesn’t have any plus pitches really, his control is average, so he just seems to be all smoke and mirrors for the most part.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i remember my late night reading of the stros site

his velocity was way down, and after two starts there’s concern he’s injured. of course we’re the same with carp, but carp’s velocity isn’t way down – wasn’t wandy throwing 87, or did i dream that?

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's never thrown very hard though

If Carp at 92 isn’t way down, then I don’t see how Wandy at 87 is. He’s around 89-90 most of the time from what I remember.

It’s not like he throws 94 or 95.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carp was pretty far down the other day

87-92 is far different from his usual 90-96. It was his slowest average velocity since the beginning of last year by about .7 mph which is pretty significant.

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by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wandy was down like 3 though, if i read it correctly

mostly 86-87 rather than 89-90

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But that’s about all that Wandy was down as well. He’s usually around 88-91. I think the OP was inferring that he throws much harder than that, but he doesn’t.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as i know wandy has never been a hard thrower

so a 3 mph drop would be a big deal.

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He averaged around 87 yesterday from what I've seen.

Which isn’t a huge drop from 89.

I agree that it’s a big drop, but it’s not like it’s from 94-95 to 86-87.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

talking out my arse

but it seems like 89 to 87 would be a lot worse than 95 to 93, unless you have a pretty good off-speed pitch like Hoffman’s.

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by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's debatable

and I think you may be right, I was just pointing out that Wandy’s never thrown 94+, as the OP seemed to be insinuating.

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by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't see where that's insinuated

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wandy's fastball was pretty bad,

his changeup doesn’t appear to even exist anymore, and he is throwing tons of curveballs. A two pitch pitcher who loses one pitch. That’s not a recipe for success.

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by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Imagine....

…it will return during the course of the season, but I’m glad he cudn’t seem to find it vs us.

:=8)

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by The MooCow on Apr 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

Two years ago he had a pretty valuable change up, but the last few times I saw him pitch last year he hardly threw it and was throwing more curveballs. Seems like he’s doing the same thing at the start of this season.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

his curve isn't a plus pitch?

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by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think so...

I’ve never seen anyone rate it as a plus pitch, mainly because he has trouble locating it for strikes. It’s a fairly decent out pitch I guess.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was the most valuable curve in baseball last year

if you out in stock in those numbers. which i’ll pretty much guarantee you say you don’t

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

hh

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair those numbers can be very misleading.

On the other hand, dismissing his entire 2009 as smoke and mirrors implies that get was lucking out. over the last couple of seasons he has thrown 342 innings of 3.5 FIP ball, and there are significant differences between what he is doing this season compared to last season.

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by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

in what way

other than that the number of one type of pitch thrown over a season is too small of a sample to get a solidly reliable reading?

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's really, really hard to

separate the value of the pitches thrown because they’re not all independent of the other pitches in a pitchers arsenal. To say that Wandy’s curveball is more valuable than Greinke’s fastball or Mariano’s cutter is an exercise in futility. How do you prove that without having them throw nothing but those pitches over a long period of time?

In terms of value, I would say that Mo’s cutter is the single best pitch in baseball over the last 15 seasons, because he literally throws nothing but cutters 95% of the time and is nearly un-hittable. Sutter’s splitter was valuable, but it’s a whole lot less valuable if he didn’t also throw a good 95 mph heater. Without the fastball, the splitter isn’t a very good pitch, because it needs the fastball to set it up in order for it to be effective. A close second would probably be Randy Johnson’s fastball, but the fact that he had a wipeout slider is what made him the most effective.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where would you put Hoffman's change?

I’d argue that he is still able to experience success, with a mid-80s fastball, solely because of his change. He has essentially leveraged an extra, what, five years to his career out of the pitch?

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by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the bleachers

Sincerely,

Nick Stavinhoa, Albert Pujols, and Matt Holliday

In all seriousness, Hoffman is d-u-n, done.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Eh, not sure I would say that

He’s not great anymore, may not even be good. But I’d be surprised if he isn’t at least okay.

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by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

who would you rather have?

Hoffman or Franklin?

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by BVHeck on Apr 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

for me, that's a tough one

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by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoffman

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoffman, easily

He’s pretty much maintained a good (no longer quite elite) K/BB ratio the last three or four years, and is coming off a season with a 2.63 FIP (albeit with a bit of luck on flyballs). Franklin was worse last year and even MORE lucky than Hoffman was, and he’s never had an xFIP better than 4.13 in his career as a reliever. He’s just not very good, and never has been. Hoffman isn’t the guy he was, but there are good signs that he’s still very good.

If you bring contracts into it, it’s probably a tougher call. I don’t think $8m for Hoffman is a very good deal unless you’ve got a huge payroll (which neither us nor the Brewers have) but, by that same token, at least he’s probably still pretty good. Giving Franklin $3.5m (or whatever it is we’re paying him) doesn’t seem very smart either.

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 15, 2010 4:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

He may or may not be done as an effective pitcher in the year 2010,

but his velocity dropped after surgery in 2003, if I’m not mistaken. So, that’s 202 saves since the surgery and subsequent drop in velocity to a mid-80s fastball? Even if he is done as of today, that is still impressive and I’d like to know how folks would value a pitch that allows a guy to amass over 200 saves with a mid-80s fastball.

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by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was done before last year, and that contract would blow up in Milwaukee's faces

and he ended up enjoying a pretty solid season. The pitch that Stavinoha homered on would probably strike or ground him out about 98% of the time. Matt Holliday and Albert Pujols are two of the best hitters in baseball. I’m not quite ready to call time on Hoffman yet.

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Hoffman has always struggled against good hitters (not that most pitchers don’t, but guys like Rivera seem to be unhittable against just about everybody). Look at all of his blown saves in the fucking All-Star game over the last 15 years. Lucky for him, he doesn’t always have to face the other team’s best hitters when he’s out there.

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by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

You could make that case

but up until the past 2-3 seasons, he could still get it up into the low 90’s.

He does have a great change-up, and it’s a great pitch, but the lower his fastball velocity gets, the less difference there is between it and the change-up, and the harder he’s going to get hit when he’s off.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he's not able to throw as hard

wouldn’t that lower his change-up’s velocity as well? Or maybe the change-up at a lower velocity doesn’t bite as much or as sharply?

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by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know about that

Fangraphs only goes to 2002 but his average FB then was 86.2 mph and he’s at 85.5 now. He’s been surviving on this junk for a long, long time.

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by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't see a lot of changeups the second nite he pitched

but i thought he was throwing breaking balls – was just odd

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay!

i don’t see why wrong to look at how many runs a pitcher gave up on a certain pitch just because he sets the pitch up with other pitched. that’s part of being a pitcher

wandy is still getting excellent results out of his curve regardless of how you want to spin it. maybe it is a mediocre curve but he’s just so good at setting it up with his average fastball or below average change up. he’s still getting good results on his curve within his repertoire. i see no need to take the tree out of the forest

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don't think it's very accurate analysis, that's all

I don’t put a lot of stock in it, just like I don’t put a lot of stock in how well certain hitters hit certain types of pitches either. Once you separate the pitch from the context of the at-bat, the count, and the situation, I don’t think you have much.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you here, sort of.

Wandy was a damn good pitcher in the two previous years. If you take the position that all of his pitches suck, then you have to account for his results somehow. If you say luck, then people can point to his good FIP, decent control, etc. His curve seems to have been his best pitch over that time period: was he generating weak contact and swinging strikes with a curveball that wasn’t a plus pitch? What are the factors other than those that would tell you it was not a plus pitch?

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by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

First, the sample sizes are small-

in some cases insanely small.

Second, pitches are used for different things. A fastball thrown to get ahead or generate contact is never going to be worth as much an out pitch: In Waino’s start yesterday five of his seven K’s were with the curve and two were with other offspeed pitches. Does that mean he should just throw all curveballs to strike every batter out? Of course not: If he threw none of those sacrificial fastballs he would never get the K’s with his curve, yet the curve is rated as more valuable.

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by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he was getting lucky, the results are very good

I just remember the discussion about how he was doing it (especially K’ing 9+ per 9 innings), because he doesn’t seem to do anything exceptionally well or have really nasty stuff. I guess his delivery is a bit unorthodox, so that might be helping.

I think his curveball is pretty good, but not near as good as some of the other good curveball pitchers in the big leagues — I would say that Carp and WW’s curveballs are better, and they mix those in with an above average fastball and 1 or 2 other average pitches that can all be thrown for strikes. Wandy has an average fastball, at best, and used to have a decent change-up, but he hasn’t hardly thrown it since about August of last year.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

waino's fastball is actually kind of weak

but he has an exceptional slider

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

His fastball is weak?

He throws 2 different fastballs. His 2 seamer is around 89-93 usually, but he puts it wherever he wants and it has very good movement. He can also reach back for a 94-95 mph 4 seamer to go up in the zone and get strikeouts. He doesn’t use that often, but it’s there.

I wouldn’t say those fastballs are “weak”. Any pitcher who can pitch off of his fastball the way that WW does can’t have a “weak” fastball.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's getting knocked around on it

don’t really know how to argue it if you’re going to disregard numbers, though

i’ll put it out there, though. -13.4 runs was his fastball worth in 2009. probably a bit of an outlier, but it’s not any better than average

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Again

You’ve completely separated it from the context of when the pitch was thrown. It’s really poor analysis because it’s so flawed.

Maybe he gets a lot of get-over fastballs hit because he’d rather the hitter put the ball in play than give up a walk or get way behind in the count.

I don’t see any possible way you can pare down what his fastball was worth in terms of the tenths of runs accurately. As with a lot of Fangraphs data, I notice the error in the data isn’t reported. For all we know, that could be all inconsequential noise because you don’t know how accurate it actually is.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

no one's saying it's a true reflection of his talent

to the tenth of the run. but when you’ve got several years worth of data saying his fastball is mediocre, it’s worse analysis to just throw out the data

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually

unless a pitch can be measured independent of other pitches you SHOULD throw out the data, because you’re not measuring the pitch itself, you’re measuring the pitch related to the other pitches thrown by that pitcher.

Pitch F/X is a much better tool to determine how good certain pitches are.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

So his fastball run value is not a measure of how good his fastball is, it’s a measure of how good his fastball is in the context of his other pitches.

IOW, the value of his fastball changes based on the percentage that he throws it, so run values can’t actually be a measure of the pitches value.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or, IOW

by using run value as the metric (rather than speed and movement on x/y axes), it is literally impossible to measure the quality of a pitch without also measuring it in a context dependent fashion.

Look at it this way, if Adam Wainwright and Luther Hackman have the same exact fastball in terms of velocity, release point, and vert/horiz movement, they will still have different run values thanks to the rest of their repertoire and the way that they use their fastballs.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 13, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

that, and vep's wakefield analogy

really take a load off my brain.

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're answering a different question, I think

There’s the effectiveness of the pitch (as used by the pitcher) versus the pitch’s raw quality. Wakefield has a pretty shitty fastball, as compared by its raw characteristics to other peoples’ fastballs. But he has a highly effective fastball. Pitch values only express a pitch’s effectiveness, not how “good of a ______” it is.

But I agree, practically speaking, what really matters is how effective a pitch is.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

As another example

If Ubaldo Jimenez and Wakefield traded fastballs overnight, Wakefield would become unhittable and Ubaldo’s career would be over. So while Wakefield’s fastball is more effective, perhaps, given their current repertoires, I think it’s fair to say that Ubaldo’s fastball is clearly “better.”

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't like the wakefield example

but you’re probably right, there. i’m more concerned with what kind of results a pitcher is getting. nasty is fun, but only if nasty is getting outs

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But if a guy has nasty stuff and isn’t getting outs, you may be able to coach him into a better approach, to utilize gameplans, or help him harness his control (although I think control is only coachable up to a certain point — some guys just don’t have the ability to throw it where they want it. Carlos Zambrano is a great example of this: Nasty, nasty stuff, but has no idea where it’s going a lot of the time)

If a guy doesn’t have good stuff though, no amount of coaching or gameplanning is going to be able to make up for that.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

and at the same time, a few okay pitches can give you some pretty great results when utilized correctly

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

and those exact same pitches can get you nowhere if not

which is dunc’s job, right?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

to an extent

he’s not the one out there throwing the pitches, though

couch ponson cough wells

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

but i wonder how burnett would be under dunc.

btw, whether a slip or not, i love “couch ponson”

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing something like this:

Duncan: Could you not walk so many f***ing people? Throw a few more ground balls?
Burnett: I’m a fascist. I like walks and strikeouts. Makes me feel like I’m in control of the game.
Duncan: This is going to be a loooooooong season.

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by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

i thought there were rumblings, though, when burnett was a free agent, like that dave desired him or something.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't the Cards make a 3 year offer to Burnett?

if the offer was made, I would assume Dunc wanted AJ

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i thought dave was covetous

as if he had an idea of how to make him super awesome

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

If you can throw 3-4 pitches for strikes and they’re all average-ish, you can be effective — just ask Jamie Moyer.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that where you'd put lance lynn?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He might be.

Although I’ve never seen him pitch or gotten a look at extensive video.

From the scouting reports I’ve read, he seems to be more of a sinkerball pitcher with a decent breaking ball though, getting by on good sinking movement with his 2 seamer and better than average control. I’m not sure I’d put him in the category of a guy like Moyer, as he doesn’t have 4 different breaking pitches that he throws from 5 different arm angles. Not “crafty” per se.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly, so how can you measure it independently by runs?

Pitchers use pitches to set up other pitches all the time. Carp throws up and in to set up his curveball low and away. Sutter used to throw a letter high fastball to set up his splitter on the next pitch. The batter was flailing over the top as the bottom fell out of the pitch in front of the plate. Neither pitch is independent of the other.

This is why Dave Duncan is such a good coach — he’s great at developing a gameplan to get each hitter out.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey!

Not nice! :-P

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

besides

these are actual results. this is what batters have done with his fastball over the last few years. the only thing that’s particularly bad about it is the sample size, but we’re working with several thousand fastballs here. i’m comfortable trying to get a rough idea of the effectiveness of of a pitch with that amount of data

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it doesn't even matter

If Zack Greinke were to throw 100% fastballs, I guarantee he would have the worst wFB in the league. Would that mean he has a bad fastball?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, for sure

That wasn’t the point I was making though.

I was just trying to say there’s no way to measure it out of context using a results based method, because the results simply don’t reflect how effective a pitch is independent of other pitches.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

/shrugs?

Well here’s a great example. By run values, Wakefield’s fastball is amazing. The only reason for that is, of course, that it’s such a surprise coming off of the knuckleball.

Waino likely uses his fastball to set up the curveball slider and change. That means he’ll intentionally throw it outside of the strike zone, which will kill your run value, or only throw it in predictable counts and not on 2 strike counts because he can just go to his offspeed stuff.

It’s pretty easy to envision an scenario in which Waino’s fastball is really around average, but it’s isolated value is less because of how he uses it.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

if the only thing his fastball is good for

is setting up a curverball by throwing it out of the strike zone and teeing it up down the middle to get contact, it’s not that good of a pitch

again, i don’t see the point in separating a single pitch from the rest of the repertore

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Point is, it doesn't work for isolating the quality of a single pitch

Which doesn’t have much practical value, I guess. But it’s not unusual that people wonder who has the “best curveball” or “best slider” in baseball. I think that people are asking about pitch quality, they aren’t asking “who has the best curveball in the context of their full pitch repertoire,” they’re asking whose curveball, isolated as a single pitch, is the best curveball. For finding that kind of information, pitch types aren’t useful.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying that Waino's fastball is only good for setting up other pitches

I’m saying that his other pitches are so good, that the only time he has motivation to throw a fastball is in hitter’s counts or to set up other pitches. He’s almost never going to throw a fastball 1-2 or 0-2 because his offspeed stuff is so good.

So if a disporpiontate amount of his fastballs thrown are on high run expectation situations, than OF COURSE, it’s going to have negative value.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

it seems like you're arguing

that waino probably has an average fastball. and i’m arguing that he doesn’t have a plus fastball. same thing. and the data seems to support it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm arguing

that pitch values measure the results of a pitch which will probably correlate with how effective that pitch is

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think there really is one

But pitch values is so wildly inaccurate that they’re fairly worthless, IMO.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They aren't "inaccurate"

They are basically just wOBA grouped by pitch type (with credits and debits for balls and strikes), so over a large sample size they are going to reflect how well batters actually hit off of a given pitch type.

The problem is that the value of each pitch is heavily determined by the pitcher’s other pitches – read my explanation above – so they aren’t measuring the true value of the pitch.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other issue I have

is how do you determine what an “average”, “good”, or “great” pitch is? Comparing them to other pitches that are classified the same?

Maybe the wOBA for an average fastball is higher than the league average wOBA? Fangraphs isn’t adjusting for this that I can see.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is probably a valid concern which i didn't think of

it’s still good for comparing pitches of the same classification under the assumption that the classifications are somewhat accurate

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know it's not for CJ Beatty

110%!!!

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

for a general idea?

sure

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not for me

but I think you knew that already.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

the wakefield example

puts it in pretty good perspective, as we know waino’s fastball is better, independent of all else. thanks for not making me have to think about this.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

the wakefield example is a bit of an outlier

in that a knuckleball is kind of a circus pitch

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not an outlier at all, it demonstrates the point perfectly

Wakefield’s fastball has a high pitch value because of his other pitch. That’s how pitch values work, they measure a pitch in the context of that pitcher’s use of that pitch in relation to his other pitches.

If you want to say Wakefield has the best fastball in baseball because it happens to be the most effective given how he uses it, I suppose that’s a fair statement. But that’s not how I would define the “best” fastball, and I don’t think that pitch values are good way of measuring it.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's absolutely an outlier

name another context where there can be that big of a difference between results and ‘stuff’

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just look at some of these

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2010/03/top_pitchfx_pit.php

I agree that Wakefield is an outlier – that doesn’t mean the point is invalid.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see that point

and i agree. i probably phrased it poorly in saying that pitch values measure how ‘good’ pitches is. mojowoo put it better by saying how effective a pitch is which is more context dependent. looking at the data and saying that wandy gets good results with his curveball is a completely fair statement even though, say, zito’s curve might have more break to it.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

being an outlier

is why it best demonstrates the point, which is that pitch value is dependent on other pitches in the repertoire. i suppose hoffman’s fastball in the last five years or so might also have better value than its quality would merit because of the change.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take Motte, then

He’s obviously got a tremendous fastball. I think anybody could tell you that. But last year the pitch value was negative. Now, realistically here, does that tell you that Motte has a bad fastball? Or does that say more about the fact that Motte has no other viable pitches, so people are just sitting dead red all the time?

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know that motte has a tremendous fastball

he throws it hard, but it has no movement and he can’t locate it very well. either way as of recently he had nothing to complement it so it wasn’t effective at all

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy Wolf had the 2nd best fastball in MLB last year by wFB

AJ Burnett had the 12th worst fastball in the league.

Pineiro had the 9th best curveball in the league by wCB/c.

There are all kinds of examples.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

pineiro

is simply a practice in small sample sizes. you’re talking about 9% of the pitches he threw last year

the others might be another example of how pitch values don’t accurately measure ‘stuff,’ but they’re not good comparisons to the difference between a fastball and a silly ass pitch like a knuckleball

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question

Does AJ Burnett have anywhere close to the 12th worst fastball among the 81 qualifiers?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know if i've watched burnett pitch

outside of the ’09 WS

i can tell you by looking at data that he got the 12th worst results among qualified pitchers in 2009

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking at several years worth of data

it look like he has an above average fastball and a very effective curveball

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I see this and think

“Well, last year was fluky, then. Because he was throwing the same awesome fastball, but he was getting worse results, so his pitch value was lower. But that doesn’t mean his fastball was actually worse.”

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it probably was fluky

taking one season of pitch value is probably worse than taking one season worth of uzr and drawing a definite conclusion. a lot of time it’s gonna be close, but a lot of times you’re gonna get shit like 22.4 UZR/150 for alfonso soriano

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

Does he just have an unbelievable fastball (94 mph with movement and command!) which he pitches off of, which forces hitters to sit fastball and look stupid when he throws his pretty good curve?

Do you think Scott Baker would be better off with Burnett’s fastball or his 91 mph?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess

But Burnett has a top 10 fastball in the league so it’s the example you were looking for of the total disconnect between actual quality and wFB quality.

Do you think Ubaldo Jimenez would like to switch fastballs with Javier Vazquez?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

i just don’t pay much attention to the AL

no, i don’t. jiminez’ repertoire is so fastball heavy and vazquez relies on his curveball

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vazquez has had a marginally better wFB/C each of the past 3 years

And obviously it’s not even close that Ubaldo has a better fastball.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean

he throws harder and stuff. but you gotta make it work

i get your point. i don’t see what’s not to get about mine by now

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get yours

But if you are going to say “Randy Wolf has a plus fastball because of his wFB”, I’m just not going to agree. As a very error-barred general guideline, I can see the pitch value stuff being useful, but it’s so context dependent it makes it nearly worthless looking exclusively at one pitcher’s pitch vs. another pitcher’s.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay debate resolution on VEB

Is this a first?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

mark the calendar

today is albert the what?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

I don’t think you can compare them, but I think prophet’s come around on that point.

We started looking at Wandy’s curveball, and it does look like a good pitch, I’d just never heard it called a plus pitch before.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone disagrees with this:
i can tell you by looking at data that he got the 12th worst results among qualified pitchers in 2009

But what we’re saying is that the results don’t necessarily equate with the quality of that pitch, they speak to the results that pitch garnered given its use in relation to the pitcher’s other pitches.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Waino only throws one fastball

And it’s a little below average in velocity/movement.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He threw a hard 4 seamer when he was in the bullpen

Not sure if he’s thrown that as a starter though.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just throws one fastball now

About 91 MPH, closer to a twoseamer than a fourseamer. It’s still a solid pitch and he locates it well, but he’s not hitting 95 anymore.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a sinker, ATG

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

but....it's gameday?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's pretty well impossible to tell 2-seam/4-seam/sinker from PITCHf/x IMO

Different arm angles, different finger pressures, different anything can make a 4 seam look like a 2-seam and vice versa. Unless it’s really clear, I think it’s kinda pointless to make the distinction. I saw Strasburg throw a 98 mph 2-seam in Spring.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that hard to separate the two

Everyone who I have tried so far (Burnett, Washburn, Waino, Hanson) has been easy.
Game by game cluster analysis FTW!

Besides, I only really care if the pitches are actually different. I don’t care if Waino throws a two-seamer and a four-seamer, they both have the same attributes.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 13, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

ATG

FTW

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did not know that

I still thought I saw him throw a few of those last year, but your empirical data is probably better than me remembering what I saw after 4 beers and a hot dog.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang now I can't remember

what pitch SI said was unhittable in their big article about him.

by sdrone on Apr 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

well it would have to be the curve

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

By process of elimination...

High 80s Fastball: Hittable.
Subpar Change: Hittable.
Big Curve: Unhittable. Er, wait. Nevermind. That’s hittable, too…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't really think about it

that was his third home run in his last four at-bats. i’m not sure ridiculous is going to suffice much longer.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

transcendent

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

too long

just unreal.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fantastical.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unreal just means ridiculous

Unrealistic implies that what he is doing could never take place in reality.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

you win

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's gonna win the cy this year

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be ecstatic

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think his ceiling is higher.

He has a good change and a nice sinker, both could potentially be better than Wandy’s change and fastball. But, if he is our version of Wandy, awesome for us.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope jaime is still pitching in his 30's

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also played his first full big-league season at age 26.

Jaime is 23. If Jaime starts putting up mid-3.00s ERAs at Age 26, I’ll be pleased.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, for a prophet

you make questionable predictions

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but see

he’s gonna pitch like he did on saturday in every game!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching him the other day I thought his perfect world upside could be Andy Pettitte

88-93 with sink, slider that looks like a cutter and a big curve.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds really good pitch-wise,

although they don’t seem alike mechanically.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

touch the horse!!!

touch eeeeet…!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Carpenter was thinking:

This could carry a lot of luggage……

"Pain is only in the mind. For me. Others, no." - Pornstache

by GasHouseMang on Apr 13, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

the horse was scared

knowing if anything happened to carp’s hand while petting him…glue.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

the horse was just aware

that you don’t look directly at carp without bursting into flames

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no wonder the horses were spooked coming out of the tunnel

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

good news everyone

there are eyewitness reports that the Wave was killed in Busch Stadium.

VIVA LA REVOLUCION!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I fear the big hurdle will be night games

more kids.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

So was I. I was in section 235. That is where my partial season tickets are.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Apr 13, 2010 2:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was looking up there

Hoping it wouldn’t take. Great job stopping it in it’s tracks!

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Apr 13, 2010 3:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i was across in 130

didn’t see anything so you killed it very effectively

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in 335!

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 13, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was in 706!

Oh, we’re not doing area codes?

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that's his picture in the avatar

he’s the guy who spilled your beer

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

harsh, but funny

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 13, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i noticed the same thing about wainwright's slider

and that just through watching his strikeouts via video highlights. it would be awesome to see him get even more swings and misses on his slider this year, essentially giving him two big out pitches.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 13, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Good mix of Pitches..

…keeping the hitters ‘off balance’ and guessing. Gem of a performance!
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Apr 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought the varying speeds was impressive

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

More on this-

Waino’s curve averaged 7.8 inches of fade and 8.8 inches of drop last year. In his start against the reds he was getting a few inches of additional fade and a little bit less drop, but in his start against the stros he was getting a similar amount of fade with a lot less drop. His slider was similar, moving away from batters well but having similar vertical movement to his fastball.

If his curve keeps moving at these lower rates, that’s probably not very good news since it has been shown that curves with more movement are better pitches. I’m not sure what it might portend for his slider, since it has always been a bit cutter-ish.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

vep noticed the same thing last night after indakind posted those picture that dan linked to

someone said something about wainwright possibly wanting to have a bit more control on his curveball to (presumably) throw it in the strike zone more often when he needs to throw a strike.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 13, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which thousand-plus comment thread did that come up in?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

the overflow.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

last night's overflow, i believe

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone here know a Joe Kelly

3rd round pick from last year, threw 5 1-hit innings for Q-Cities yesterday? Apparently brings some heat and a slider.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

know of him

his name seems to be mentioned alot.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's got good stuff

But he’s struggled to stay healthy in college and was thought to have been drafted as more of a bullpen arm.

If he can be a starter for us, that would be fantastic. Miller, Kelly, and Stock are all in Q-C? Shit, I’m gonna have to get over there for a 3 game set sometime this season — that’s an awesome ballpark too.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

fastball, slider, changeup

Good stuff, was a closer in college.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was his injury history like?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 13, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shoulder injuries early in his college career

before being placed exclusively in the pen (IIRC) but was healthy his senior year

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

az, if you had to pick between henley, jones, or jay

who would you take? and why don’t they have minor-league fantasy baseball, or do they?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

who has a better shot at a 5+ year major-league career -

not necessarily with the cards.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

I’m a Henley believer. Jay’s had some rough years offensively but all evidence points to him being a defensive wizard. I think Jay’s got a better chance to catch and stick as a backup since he’s so good in CF. If I have to pick a player for RF and/or an everyday player, I’m taking Henley — better arm, better power, good range — who has been extremely consistent in the minors. I think Henley could play center as well but he’d only be average at that position.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2010 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

joe strauss tells me that all of jones, jay and henley profile as LF types

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

this man needs a unicorn, stat!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm a henley proponent

but can’t really explain why except he looks the best to my eye.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean on the field!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 13, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

on a side note, the lack of captions made it nigh impossible to find pictures of him on the P-D

http://stltoday.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=28154593&event=949874&CategoryID=38576&thispage=1

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's better.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 13, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

I don’t know why there’s no minor league fantasy baseball, I would play that. I’d settle for (attempting a user summoning) David Appelman at Fangraphs beefing up his minor league statistics some.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Minor League Ball with John Sickels runs one.

I am pretty sure it exists somewhere.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 13, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds far more interesting

evaluating talent would be huge, whereas i get the sense in mlb fantasy it’s more numbers crunching.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

mulling.

http://twitter.com/JohnMarecek/status/12113647362

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

locked twitter, so I don't even know what the punchline is.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

it might help if I knew what the hashtag meant, too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hh, gotta be his fantasy team

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that makes sense

so our next step is to pass it off as real news, right?
then we rule the internet?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

get it to olney, quick

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we were really evil

people could re-tweet it without the hashtag.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because who really cares

unless you know the rest of his team as to whether that’s a good trade or not?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or who else is in the league

Or the league’s settings
Or blah blah blah worst tweet ever

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

it occurs to me that MLB mishandled the whole delay of game thing

instead of Joe West, or dragging the Red Sox/Yanks into it, they should’ve just asked Chris Carpenter for his thoughts.

good work, Bud.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Car people, assemble

service engine light came on in my wife’s 05 Nissan Altima. She took it to the shop, they gave her a list of parts that need to be changed, but the 2 that NEED to be changed are an Oxygen sensor and the exhaust manifold. They quoted $190 for the O2 sensor and $475 for the manifold, parts only. I could change the O2 sensor myself possibly, but not the manifold. I don’t want to spend a grand on this thing, but will if I have to. Anyone have suggestions?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 13, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Shade tree mechanic?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you clear your cookies?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i did a full reboot and everything!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 13, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

then i'm out of ideas

probably gonna have to format the motor

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yes...

go to a site like NicoClub and ask. People on VEB don’t know anything about anything, cept bacon and unicorns.

by mattyp on Apr 13, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

to be fair

we know a little bit about stickball and statisticals

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

and nothing about dating

but a whole lot about dating advice

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've occasionally played

Rounders. What’s this other thing?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

RiverRat (as well as Flim and fourstick) were extremely helpful when my car was on the fritz.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats why I posted it here

i remembered someone had requested help before and got it

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 13, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

staplers.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

albertofstan facts

cats, brownies, picking locks…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Autozone or someplace like that will give you a printout with the exact codes

Use the internetz to figure out what those are .

Fyi, you can buy O2 sensors at auto parts stores and put them in yourself if you know which sensor is bad (and readout may tell you that). The readout from AUtozone narrowed me down to 2 O2 sensors and I made a logical guess that was right.

Then disconnect your battery for at least 2m and re-test. Do that twice. I the check engine light is still on, go get it read again. If it still says “exhaust manifold” then you’re gonna have to get that replaced.

by sdrone on Apr 13, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’d definitely retest after you replace the O2 sensor and disco the battery. Sometimes you’ll get multiple errors when only one part is bad, but I don’t know anything about Nissan cars since I’ve never owned or worked on one.

I think that your exhaust manifold might actually be covered by the emission warranty on the car. The one on my Vue is like 7 years or 100,000 miles, so I’d check that…oh…RiverRat has you covered there I guess! :-)

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would absolutely not buy a new exhaust manifold until after replacing the O2 sensor.

Not that I know much about cars, but, as fourstick states, sometimes you’ll get multiple errors when only one part is bad. In this instance, because of the O2 sensor problem, the computer may be saying there is something wrong with the exhaust manifold. Sort of a chicken or the egg situation. Replace the sensor, disconnect the battery, then wait to see if the light comes on again, and, if it does, go back to Autozone or someplace for another run through the diagnostic tool and printout.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why specifically does the exhaust manifold need to be replaced?

Don’t settle for “We need to change it.” From looking at the set up that has the cat converter built into it as well. So if it’s a clogged cat, that makes sense. Next thing, how many miles are on the car? Standard emission warranties are 8 – 10 years and at least 100,000 miles. That’s federally mandated. Shoot me an email, and I will answer any questions you might have.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never heard of a federally mandated

100k mile emission warranty. Never seen it mentioned in vehicle documentation either.

by sdrone on Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check your owners manual....

Federal emissions warranty.
This doc sets it at 8/80. It covers cat converters for the most part.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also just jumped on to my GM site,

I misspoke, it is definitely 8/80. So, if the cat is the problem, and Scoot’s Altima has less than 80K on it, the dealer will replace it free of charge. If it’s out by mileage, I may be able to find the part cheaper for you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

that happened to me last summer, my cat went bad & f'ed up the exhaust

so i got an almost totally new exhaust for free

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What was the great play in the outfield

missed the game yesterday?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at

link

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

pretty impressive

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 13, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

bengie or jose?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha FESPN

Roethballs apparently is so contrite, he got a haircut.
haha, Rachel Nichols. Please stop smiling and laughing, you’re actually competent.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

In fairness though

That really was a terrible hairdo.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did that backward

link

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Houston Astros (0-7)

Hey, cool: Reaching here – the Astros have committed only five errors. That doesn’t include the offseason.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 13, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even more fun

in going 0-7, the ’Stros have scored 13 runs, while the Cards have 13 home runs.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even more fun

A day or two ago, the Diamondbacks scored 13 runs in a single inning. The Astros have that many all year.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

padres scored 17 yesterday

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know

it is to laugh, and against Atl, no less. I didn’t think they could score that many in a week.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

especially in that park

they were smacking dingers – that blanks can really bruise a baseball

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he's an m's fan

and reads veb?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The image is even named "stl.gif". Weird.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 13, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

screenshot it, y'all

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

SeatTLe

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

VEB: Our Meme's Are EVERYWHERE

RIP new tagline

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

NOCAYFT - I know

But if anyone wants to weigh in – Someone just proposed a trade to me:
I get: Prince Fielder and Felipe Lopez; He gets: Andrew McCutchen and Rickie Weeks.

I currently have Mark Reynolds at 1B and Quentin, Rasmus, CarGo, and Bourn in OF and Aaron Hill at 2B (although he’s now on the DL). Plus, Jay Bruce is on the waiver wire, so I could get him, also.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

do it

sell high on weeks before he has his annual season ending injury

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 13, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Especially since you can get Bruce on waivers. People overreacting over a one week slump….heh.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 13, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yessir

I love panic moves at this point in the season

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whaddya do with Reynolds, then?

Bench him, or move him?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's probably a good trade. . .

but without knowing what format your league is, it’s kind of hard to say. If it’s a shallow mixed league with either several categories (i.e. > 5×5) or fantasy points, it’s probably a fantastic deal for you, as guys like McCutchen and Weeks are just north of marginal (McCutchen farther north than Weeks, of course).

In a deep 4×4 league however, SBs are pretty valuable, and to a lesser extent so are ABs, so while it’s still probably a good deal, it’s not necessarily a no-brainer.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 13, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a 10-team, 5X5 league

i’m losing SBs and Rs since both those guys are hitting leadoff, but I think I can do a pretty good job of replacing them. Also, Reynolds as my lone 1B is a huge problem in my view. I just don’t trust him to repeat last year.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bourn's

going to steal a ton of bases this year, because the Astros are going to suck offensively and he’ll need to run more.

I didn’t realize you had Longoria at 3B — I’d probably try and flip Reynolds for pitching when Hill gets off the DL — looks like you might need him for the time being as your utility.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

moar pickoffs

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting question, then. . .

you have Bourn and CarGo, who will get you some steals. It really depends upon how much losing 40ish steals and 10ish runs will cost you in the standings for the benefit of 20ish HR and 30ish RBI. I generally like trading depth for stars, but this one is a pretty close call.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Apr 13, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Push for more

But do it if it comes down to it. I would ask for someone better than Lopez — someone who is a full-time player. If the other guy/gal won’t budge, though, I would just go ahead and take this.

Your OF depth is outstanding, so trading McCutchen and snagging Bruce is probably a prudent move. And Prince Fielder is a stud, so adding him is always a good move.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would just drop Lopez

and use someone as a fill-in at 2B until Hill was healthy

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

do that

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 13, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i did that.

its hard when they don’t start.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm.

(the glossary watches.)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

good shorthand

i noticed “weigh in” and “prince fielder” in the same paragraph

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

it helps me search for stuff.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do it yesterday

Move Reynolds to 3B and you can have Lopez as your uber-utility since he’ll have plenty of games at 4 different positions this year (3B, OF, 1B, SS) — he can fill your middle or corner, that’s a pretty valuable thing.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

completely outta left field here

but has anyone thought of the possibility Carp’s start got bumped back a day because of someone seeing something mechanically/physically wrong with him in his first start, and not because of whatever bizarre reason TLR gave?

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 13, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

i meant his start this weekend

seeing as he was originally starting saturday, and got bumped to the sunday night game, with Jaime getting moved up. i don’t know what he’s on schedule for now

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 13, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah

i can’t really speculate on that. considering tony and his decisions, i buy his notion that they wanted to save jaime from the national television start.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

according to the mother ship

and I’ll be there, so I’m hoping it’s true

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes,

right after I finished my paper outlining the inconsistencies and misrepresentations in the Warren Report.

In all seriousness, though, with the team’s habit of hiding injuries, I’m almost always overly concerned about a player’s health.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 13, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

when it come to Carp, i'm even more paranoid than usual

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

get off of the man

(i’d like to get on)

he’ll be fine. stop freaking out

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't help it! i'm a worrier!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been told i worry like a woman, that bothers me

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

heh

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 13, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do feel bloated even though i'm pretty hungry

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i'm pretty sleepy though

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

eat some ice cream

and watch pretty woman
you’ll be okay on 6 to 8 days

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate that movie

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it stars horse face & gerbil lover, what's to like?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know

i heard it was a female favorite

/btw, gerbil lover? niiice

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

well i guess that settles that, gdm is not a girl

danka on the gerbil lover, i’m kind of proud of it

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya know

I never had much of a problem with how J Roberts looked. But there’s the line in the film “Notting Hill”, where she says

And, one day not long from now, my looks will go, they will discover I can’t act and I will become some sad, middle-aged woman who looks a bit like someone who was famous for a while.

And then I saw a little bit of “Duplicity” and this was all I could think of. She looks HORRIBLE in that film.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

that was all Victoria's Secret

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe don't stay up until 4 AM tonight?

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't help that, it's nuts, i could go to bed right now

but not be able to sleep. my mind won’t let me, it’s like it won’t shut off which is weird because many could say it seams like it’s never on. but i literally lay there every night trying to sleep but i can’t, my heart starts racing & my mind just wonders & i can’t sleep.

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Take some melatonin

OTC, 3 mg. Helps me go to sleep when I’m in the situation you’re describing.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

danka, i'll give it a whirl & see if that helps

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Try a half pill first, unless you have nowhere to be the next day.

I took a full pill once, slept through my alarm, and woke up feeling like a Mack truck ran over me in my sleep.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I’ve never had any problem waking up. Seems like it’s just helpful for getting to sleep, not staying asleep. Getting to sleep is usually my problem. Not that starting at only a half pill is a bad thing or anything.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

i never go half pill

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

where would he need to be?

the other side of the basement?

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

BURN

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

....

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

you can see the whole pic can't you?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes

i gave you the appropriate reaction

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

cool, just making sure

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

OUCH

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, i never bought the stated reason

because it made no sense. i figured they were just giving carp an extra day early in the season, knowing full well, however, that he is not good with an extra day off.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

what was the stated reason?

saving Jaime from having his first ML start on FESPN Sunday Night Baseball makes sense to me.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 13, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

it does?

inconceivable to me. i mean, do they have tv’s in the dugout, and he’s going to hear them talking about him? i think pitching in front of 40-50,000 is the same whether on tv or not. and didn’t this just make him pitch the saturday game of the week? made zero sense to me, thus i figured they were just giving carp an extra day while at the same time setting up matchups down the road.

and it wasn’t his first start. i thought he started a game in 08? maybe not, but i thought he did.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't blame him.....

rookie lefty, TLR, and national stage…..I’m surre TLR is still gunshy from the Ankiel situation….I’m not saying it makes it right, just that I can see where he’s coming from.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think it was for health-related per se

just giving carp an extra day, and planning down the road. he was on a national stage either way, so that doesn’t really fly. i’m sure the only thing jaime was nervous about was his dad in the stands watching, and that was gonna happen either day.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

somebody just needs to post the damn ratings for Sunday's game

and Saturday’s game so that we can put this topic to rest

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I'd assume that since Saturday's game was nationally broadcast

to STL, and Sundays was actually nationally broadcast, that Sundays would have a higher viewership.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would think so too

but I need numbers to convince me that Morgan doesn’t drive away the viewing audience

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a good point.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is, though

that the casual or less-than-casual baseball fan probably likes him because he’s “informative” and talks a good deal about baseball history (name-drops all over the place and tells idiotic pointless stories)

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Apr 13, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He fooled me for a while, untill I discovered the defunct firejormorgan

I have no complaints about Hershiser. I liked him as a player.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

so jaime knew those eyes were watching?

not sure ratings matter so much as the hullabaloo at the ballpark – does fespn make a bigger deal (distraction) at the park than fox? i wouldn’t doubt it, but i can’t imagine it’d be much of a different experience for garcia either way.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the same thing actually...

Carp on 4 days is infinitely better than Carp on 5 days.

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 13, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

Chicks Dig the Long Ball!!!!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 13, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sooooo......

my friend gave me a Twix bar, which I promptly set aside for later snacking. 10 minutes later, and its gone. 20 minutes later, and I’m looking for it again, swearing up and down that I had a candy bar and where the heck did it go. It was not until presented face to face with the overwhelming physical evidence of the candy bar wrapper in my own trash can that my stomach was finally cowvinced that I had already eaten the candy bar.

And then I was sad.

Getting old sux.

:=8/

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Apr 13, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

if i ate it

i’d put the wrapper in your trash can, too, just to cowfuse you

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

with so many stomachs to fill, we can forgive you. Or put you out to pasture.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 13, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i a got a 36 pack of those limited edition Triple Chocolate Twix

and my sis & nephew boosted half of them last week. i’m so freaking pissed, they haven’t made them in 3 years & i think they are the greatest candy bar ever made. i only got one box to keep in the freezer & they jacked half of them.

i’m telling you, don’t trust anybody. especially family

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd never steal your candy bars

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

well duh, i'd share them with you along with the B's

i don’t mind sharing, it’s the stealing that pisses me off then the flat out denial when i caught the little thief with his hand literally in the cookie jar. just freaking ask, you don’t have to steal

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Viva El Sellout draft is finally done......

we think.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

wow, that was fast

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

hahahaha

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 13, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm reccing it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a CBS league, right?

I have a CBS league this year and I must say, the interface is totally unusable. It’s to the point where that alone is enough to stop me from caring about that team as much as my Yahoo league.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I like ESPN better than Yahoo

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never played ESPN

So I have no basis for comparison.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have all Yahoo this year, somehow

and IIRC, ESPN tells you who’s scheduled to pitch against your hitters. which helps when you have skip and lopez on your team…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yahoo does this as well

Under the “Opponents” tab on your team’s page.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

jinx!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yahoo tells you this too

if you click on the opponents tab

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that's too much work

I want answers now!

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN just seems to be more fluid

but it doesn’t matter, since all my leagues are Yahoo this year.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 13, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?????

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

6ly, I need to get some relievers.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 13, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you figured out how to DL somebody yet?

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, I don't think we can make any actual roster moves.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 13, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think there is a DL,

just reserve spots.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

how can that be

weren’t you guys drafting dudes that had already put up numbers?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

wuh?

weird

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

a very anticlimatic ending I must say

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like this movie!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 and half out of 5 stars

the plot was good, but the movie was way too long. ending was contrived

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't remember the last movie i've seen with a good ending

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

you should see shutter island.

if you haven’t already. great movie, great ending. and don’t let anyone ruin it for you!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 14, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree

ending was excellent
but they fave it up pretty much in the middle
still a good movie

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

royals up 5-0

now down 6-5 in the eighth in detroit. just clicked it on hoping ank due up in ninth. well, bases loaded for tigers now.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

dammit you beat me to it

either way, Dick Watch™ – 1 for 5, with 2 Ks, a run scored, and 6 left on. playing CF, batting 5th.

royals fans are tweeting: why don’t the #Royals put Rick Ankiel in the bullpen? can it get any worse?
in response to the Royals awful bullpen performance

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 13, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, six runs in the seventh

i put my closer in before it gets to that point, honestly, if i’m the royals. alas, no dick AB in the ninth.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still can't believe he's hitting AL pitching at all

let alone going 4-4 the other night and with high leverage situations

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

has anyone else noticed the Pirates have been batting the pitcher 8th all year?

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 13, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

there's been a lot of talk about it

so, yeah, i have.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i completely missed it!

either way, cool

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 13, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure if it was true or not

as i don’t recall where i read it, but apparently the pirates also boast the worst hitting pitchers in the league

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

So...

who’s gonna watch the GLEE premiere tonight???

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a better idea

I think I’m going to stab my eyes with forks and then slam my hand in the oven door a couple thousand times.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

ouch

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 13, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I figured that would get a great response from someone
I’ll be at pre-marital counseling. Yippee!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I just found something better to do.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 13, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's Tuesday night

a new “Lost” is on.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

VEB Off-Day Poll

Please place your votes.

Which of these players would be the best option, right now, to replace the injured LaRue?

A. Matt Pagnozzi
B. Kelly Stinnett
C. Einar Diaz
D. Mike Difelice
E. Joe Girardi
F. Cody McKay

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

G.Steven Hill

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 13, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

go to hell

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

...

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

can bonds squat and catch a ball?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunc won't go for a lefty catcher

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

poor bryan anderson.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 13, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

well dunc doesn't care which side they bat from

he’s not insane – that’s tony.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit I thought he was a left handed catcher because of his bat

move along nothing to see here.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 13, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I. Robert Stock

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

RFL!

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT: prophet or anyone else computer inclined....

I’m looking to upgrade my video card. This is my board, And I’m currently using the onboard Nvidia 8300 chipset. I want to stay under $200, and prefer to stay with the Nvidia chipset. Any suggestions?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

you gaming or what?

you can get a hell of a video card for $200, but it’s a matter of whether or not you need all that power

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part time gamer,

but the video card is the only thing from keeping my machine from being a monster… I’d actually like to spend about half that, but can afford 200 if it’s worth it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you want bang/buck maximization?

lemme give you some recs

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150351

i probably like the ati a bit better. slightly lower clock speed, but twice as much memory. both good bang for your buck and both will let you play any game you want, most with settings maxed out

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

thoughts?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's okay for the price

don’t let the 1GB of DDR5 fool you, though. the clock speed is not great and a 128-bit memory interface is about the lowest you would want to go if you’re looking for a high end GPU

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

ati>nvidia

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mobo is all based off Nvidia,

and I’ve had problems mixing and matching chipsets in the past.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scrap the whole thing

get an AMD CPU and ATI chipsets.

ok well maybe not…

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummmmm no.....

I built this last year….Running the above mobo, with this processor, and 8 gigs of ddr2. It will be a while before I change again.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice processor

I was mostly being sarcastic about the scrap it comment

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

they like metal

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

what the hell is that?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

ICP.

A band that should perish.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 13, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who hurts more? ATL fans (Wainer trade) or BOB fans (HWMNBN trade)

Dec 2003, Wainwright w/ Marquis and King for J. D. Drew Marrero
Wainer 6 seasons 88 GS, ERA 3.13, ERA+ 137, K/BB 2.67 (and 3 saves)

Post 2004 Haren w/ Kiko Calero, Daric Barton for Mark Mulder
HWMNBN 8 seasons 189 GS, ERA 3.61, ERA+ 123, K/BB 3.85
(I almost start to search for He Who Must Not Be Named in the baseball reference search box before I stopped myself)

I think both suck pretty bad.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

where the Braves...

Able to trade away Drew or did they just lose him to free agency?

by Evilfrog on Apr 13, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

draft picks?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd assume he was an A.....

so a first and a sandwich.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

so...

Who did they draft with that?

by Evilfrog on Apr 13, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

god, that was long ago

this could be a long trail of transactions – funny if it culminated in hanson and heyward.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Desn't look like

it did.
Jones, Devine, Lyman, and Yunel Escobar were 1,1,2,2 rounds respectively.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 2007

They drafted Heyward with their first pick (14th over all) and Jon Gilmore with a sandwich pick (33rd over all) Jon Gilmore is with the White Sox A+ team now.

by Evilfrog on Apr 13, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh wait

2005. 2007 is when he moved to the Red Sox. My bad

by Evilfrog on Apr 13, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

they got a haul for the TEX trade too

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought tex got a haul for the tex trade (from atlanta)

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

No sandwich pick back then

So just a 1st.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.....

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did we get any picks for Mulder?

Jokin’. Oh the pain. Literally (M’s shoulder) and figuratively.

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by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was considered the one least likely to break down

of the big 3 in oakland.

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

you failed to mention

waino: 1 WS (does that even happen without him? hard to imagine)

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good pt. It's funny how my fondest memory of Waino is not of the WS

but of the breaking ball called 3rd strike to Beltran. I can watch that video (gif) all day.

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by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

manny is on the dinger board

don’t know if there’s anyone better than scully.

and what the hell’s gotten into vernon wells – 5 dingers already?

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

he finally realized how much he was being paid

i had to stop and see if he had already been taken in my fantasy league

sadlym he had

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

listening to scully too

Vernon always starts the first week of the season well

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he (wells)?

see that ball ethier hit?

and does anyone see any growth potential in loney?

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...(s)

here is his breakdown by month
It’s not as drastic as FESPN suggested the other day. In fact his average stats are lower, but his TB and HR are higher.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite quote so far

Charley Steiner: (referring to Esmerling Vazquez) "I never went high school with anybody named “Esmerling.”
Vin Scully: "I bet he never went to high school with anybody named “Charley.”

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's great

read an excellent article yesterday that was a link in the sidebar, about enberg working with drysdale, etc.

who was talking about mark reynolds and fantasy. he just went yard, and vin says, “that’s mark reynolds. strikes out twice and then hits a home run.” then he gave a stat: 5 times last year reynolds struck out 3 times in a game in which he also homered. howard had 4, and then he mentioned soriano (either 3 or 4, i missed it)

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

they got Charlie in the booth with Vin now????

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he doesn't travel beyond denver, i believe

or maybe not at all, anymore. so i guess charlie does those, so he needs to be around at home anyway to see the games – and maybe vin needs a couple breaks during the game.

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by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

glad to see we aren't the only team

with bullpen troubles
Dodgers pitching staff in total:
36 walks in 7 games
yucky

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1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Apr 13, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

our pitching has been pretty good

especially considering carp has been our worst. the front page post at the astros site was optimistic about facing lohse because, in his first start, “he got hit around”. i thought he was pretty good, with a tough strike zone. of course they also claim that we signed franklin in the off-season, and don’t seem to realize motte was a catcher at one time.

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that strike zone was nuts.

and don’t they know we can pull catchers out of thin air? Skip is optimistic he can learn the position in five minutes.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

if skip catches

that would be true grit – wasn’t that a movie?

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it just me

Or are there an unusually high number of truly atrocious bullpens this year?

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

bad bullpens are the new market inefficiency?

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by SleepyCA on Apr 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

there's a thought.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i blame bernanke.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think my favorite Albert stat is this:

If you took career worsts from Pujols and put it all together, it’d be an All-Star season.

99 runs
177 hits
33 doubles
0 triples
32 homers
103 rbi
.314 AVG
.394 OBP
.561 SLG
.955 OPS
9th in MVP voting

by stlfan on Apr 13, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

was he 9th his rookie year in mvp voting?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was 4th in voting

that year. He was 9th in 2007, which is tied for the year with the most “worst” stats in the list above (four, same as in 2002, which I think is generally considered his worst year; he was 2nd in MVP that year).

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 13, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's doing ok

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder

how many rookies have won MVP

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by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't Ichiro? And Jackie Robinson?

And did Valenzuela just win the Cy, or also MVP?
TO THE INTERNET! (that is, to another part of it).

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 13, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't count ichiro

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

internet says

fred lynn and ichiro

but ichiro was only kind of a rookie

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, lynn more impressive feat than ichiro

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of like the guy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 13, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really liked the one DanUp listed in this post
As I mentioned recently in a comment thread, if he began every at-bat with a 1-2 count his career line, at current rates, would still be .278/.327/.475.

Ridiculous Unrealistic.

by mojowo11 on Apr 13, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, what's his WAR

so we can figure out his worth?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is simply astonishing.

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Pujols...

If you pick and choose Albert Pujols’ AVERAGE stats by each category, this is his line:
124 runs, 199 hits, 45 2B, 2 3B, 42 HR, 129 RBI, .334/.427/.629/1.057

And his BEST stats by each category is:
137 runs, 212 hits, 51 2B, 4 3B, 49 HR, 137 RBI, .359/.462/.671/1.133

What?

Wow.

by stlfan on Apr 13, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ladies and gentleman

http://antiduckface.com

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

i like ducks

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like ducks on the pond

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're cool

they can float and fly!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is a good

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jim Hayes' blog is called The Cat's Pajamas.

erm.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

 strange choice of idiom

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he was jewish and lived upstate new york

it could be The Cat’s Skills…man, i crack myself up.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don't know whether I should rec or flag this

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* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can't do both

i tried

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you know the origin of the name?

The term, which derives from the name of a beet soup popular with people of Eastern European origin. I guess that makes since since it was a favorite Ashkenazic vacation spot.
I did not know that.

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by totalloser on Apr 13, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that makes sense

i lived a long time in new york so i’m used to catskills references and the history…hope i didn’t offend anyone (like mattyfrommo, who considered flagging me)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

they won't let me flog you people

so I have to threaten with the flaggin

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you confusing

the Catskills with the Borscht Belt?

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Apr 13, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're one and the same

but i see what you’re saying. also known as the “jewish alps”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

anybody paying attention to TOR-CWS?

Ricky Romero’s got a no-hitter going thru 5. 1 walk, 10 K’s.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

ok, i'm going there now

better still be happening.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

he definitely knows what's happening

that dude is focused.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

nasty k

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and another - 12 thru 6

wonder how his curve compares to wandy?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, thanks for the heads-up

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 more

wells turned wrong, ball must have been hooking

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

7 complete

andruw jones had 2 homers and 4 rbi’s last nite

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet!

he’s on my fantasy team. hoping for a break out. i should pop that game on

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

only thrown 85 pitches thru 7

he’s good for at least one more, i would think

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no k's that inning

sounds like he had an outstanding first game too.

wells his second double tonite. how about the jays become this years rays? that’d be fun.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh well

bad feeling when he hit aj. figures the next batter would be rios.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

that ball didn't hit AJ, either

it looked like it could have hit one foot, but he came up hopping on the other one. he sold it, though, i guess.

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

typical aj. like the dropped third strike, numerous other contrived hbp’s, etc.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

if it was anybody else, i might not be so convinced that it didn’t really hit him

by bmorgan on Apr 13, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

ed kranepool

is the all-time mets hits leader. that would’ve been tough to guess. less than 1500, btw.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

who passes him?

i call david wright

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 13, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

watching them play the rocks

they showed wright currently 10th at 900-something

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

global effin VEBalization

i just got a term paper back with the following comments from the professor:

“Very well written, excellent content, although I had a hard time figuring out the correct punctuation for some of your complex sentences. All in all, your paper NEEDS MORE COMMAS

well motherfucker if i didn’t know that already…

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 9:30 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

any chance teach is a cards fan?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

commas are overused though

better to err on the side of caution with those

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

who are you again?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

a member of veb since march 2008?

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 13, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's saying

he doesn’t know you anymore

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, sorry, must've said it wrong

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

noticed you hit 30k today

that’s alotta comments

congrats

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by YesWeOquendo on Apr 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet, by tomorrow my crown will be his

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

you've got all night to wash it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

no amount of washing will get it clean

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll put in for my own crown. or maybe a merit badge.

you can keep that

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

1500 more to go

you better not pull a Cody to get this crown

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what bro, he's earned it

i got a two year head start on him & he’s about to lap me. i tip my cap to yadi2

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i understand

but it would mean less if he pulled an all-nighter like Cody

can we start using Cody as a verb?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

"what are you doing?"

“i’m codying tonight”

that might bring some confusion

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody bringing confusion

that just about sells it for me

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's only two things you could be talking about

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I thought too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

bacon and..?

something else as meaningless
/and deeeelicious?

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll let gdm explain

he’s the expert

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

why you sonofa,,,,

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can't take a compliment either?

i am off my game

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm far from an expert,

i’m not even in pro ball

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

no & no

he would be staying up all night on VEB posting nonsense or staying up all night driving to Palmdale

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

thank you for filling out this comment

management will get back to you as soon as possible. we are committed to customer service.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's just awesome

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

ESPN

so greater chance you will (hopefully)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

my god the rocks killed maine

8-0 now, but i think they had that in the third. maine also threw a ball into right and a couple runs scored. the mets don’t seem to be very good. whoever was playing first for them was a real klutz – should’ve got to maine’s throw.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Murphy?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

is he a righty throwing black guy?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it was tatis, come to think of it

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by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap

suicide warning

man, I hope Jered Weaver isn’t messed up for life. that’s trauma, even just witnessing it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

there's an image of torri hunter signing autographs as they remove the body

wtf

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by YesWeOquendo on Apr 13, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, new yorkers....

hotel to bus is the usual place for autograph hounds

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok so this i dont mean to be insenstitve becuse this event is gruesome and very sad

but I just imagined Hunter like, “When I jump that far I’’m going up. You want an autograph?”

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

is the dead body of a guy who killed himself really that big of a deal?

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

sarcasm right?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Apr 13, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

dead body?

42nd floor means it’s pretty much dead splat

by d-dee on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

witnessed live....

unless there’s something you’re not telling us

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

guess i'm desensitized, unless there's kids around i don't see the problem

i’ve been around a lot of people as they have passed, some in some bad ways, so please don’t think i’m trying to make fun of anything, i’m not at all.

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

unless you've been in combat

I highly doubt you’re desensitized to the physics of what happened. and even then.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, that was F & i'm thankful i never saw that

i can just see why people in NYC still wanted autographs. i can also understand why Weaver was shook up

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

trudat

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Me and a bunch of buds were camping out in the West Georgia woods about half a mile from a local road when I was in college, and all of a sudden we heard a huge noise off in the distance. None of us knew exactly what it was at first, kinda sounded like an airplane taking off or something. After awhile, we heard the distinctive cry of a woman, “HELP!” and we immediately drove down to the road to see what happened. She and a friend were driving home from a wedding when his tire blew going around a curve, and his Nissan Pathfinder was lodged against a tree. It was kinda bent around the tree, the top of the car hitting the tree first. She was bleeding pretty profusely, but she was in shock and more worried about her friend. Her friend who wasn’t wearing his seatbelt. We looked around the woods for a little while until we found a body lying in a way that no body should physically every lie. I will never forget the sight of his mangled body on the ground right there, lifeless. It took me a few days to get over it emotionally. Seeing a fresh dead body, especially when you’re not expecting it, is quite traumatizing.

Incidentally, that was the night of Game 1 of the World Series, aka the Anthony Reyes game. I had promised to go camping weeks before, when I thought the Cards would make an early exit in the playoffs. I snuck off to my car every once and awhile to get a score update on the radio, but I missed the entire game.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeesh.

That sucks.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i can see how that would bother you

i came across a motorcycle wreck one time, i’ll spare you the gory detail, but there were body parts in 3 different locations.

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

THOSE ARE GORY DETAILS

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

they are? sorry. i actually wrote out what the scene was like & erased it

thinking it would upset everyone. i’m sorry, i tried to be as non specific. i guess i shouldn’t have said anything, just wanted JD to know i can relate

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it wasn't as gory as it could have been

Like, say, one of the body parts was an eyeball

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

actually in the writing of suspense / horror

it’s more horrific when you only reveal parts of the whole picture. the human imagination fills in the rest, and thus it becomes more horrific.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

well that would mean the guys helmet didn't work

and it did, i’ll just leave it at that

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

GAH!!!!!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

sorry! i'll shut up

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

On my second day at the hospital,

I had a patient die in front of me. I forget about it easily because of the sheer unbelievable strangeness of the event. It remains one of the most surreal experiences of my life.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I worked in the ER

We had a guy come in who had been struck by lightning. I was just an ER tech so I didn’t get too much of a look, but I remember getting a brief glance at charred human skin, as well as the accompanying smell. At least we knew that was coming though.

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was pretty fortunate, I never saw TOO much shit (other than the lightning strike victim)

But yeah, they get some crazy shit in there, and some crazy people (which I DID witness plenty of) as well

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hung out in the ER when my dad was in the hospital

the party usually starts around 2amish

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I never did night shift

I was always 7a-7p

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

why not? that's when all the cool stuff goes down

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

Just didn’t want to stay up all night I guess

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you a morning person?

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I need to be

I don’t drink coffee though. Ice water is sufficient. I’m a freak.

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, i couldn't get up before noon without some joe

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

now kids, yeah, kids get to me

but for some reason i have no problem with adults.

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

gdm...

with emotions other than cool, idle rage?

wha?

but yea, i’m glad for my mom’s sake she’s moved onto a much less depressing field of pediatrics.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe there's hope for me yet?

there’s something very tragic watching a baby lose their life. i’ve only seen it twice, but that was two times too many

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

probably tourists, yadi2

/gotta defend the new yorkers

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by cardball on Apr 13, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

out of towners!!

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

and people are getting autographs

wow

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by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting stat

Clint Barmes, in 3 ABs today, has 3 RBIs with no hits.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 13, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

is he magic?

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe a wizard?

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you know where that's from?

/random

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dungeon Master!

/seriousdork

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the one

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

man

I used to do a lot of DM’ing back in the day. I was the guy living on the outskirts of town rolling dice with screens of charts propped up around him, painting miniatures, making maps, and listening to heavy metal

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

how many sides on your dice*

*it’s the internet. you can lie about dice size

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

percentile dice, I’m not sure how you would qualify that. I never bought that golf ball looking 100 sided die though.

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

isn't that what Tony uses for his lineups?

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

he could probably get away with just using the 8 sided die

which looks like two pyramids glued together kinda. I also had 3000 comic books and stacks of baseball cards laying around

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're talking about all of this stuff in the past tense...

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 14, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I don’t play tabletop rpg’s anymore, alas. I do grow nostalgic for the Marvel Super Heroes rpg that just used percentile dice and a couple of charts. that one was the most fun because it didn’t require as much time. they should come out with it again just as it was. that one was my fave. they’ve changed ad&d around too much. I read the internet too much now, so don’t have time for comics, and music pretty much replaced my gaming habits.

as for baseball cards, if they ever come out with sabermetric ones I’m all over that! I was thinking about making some that had illustrations instead of photos, but still probably would be hard to get mlb to allow that.

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

My son got interested in my old RPG books

which let to a series of circumstances that landed me in Paizo’s RPG Superstar top 32. I was crushed in the next round, though.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still have my Fiend Folio around just for shits and giggles

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Dusty used dugout dice.

I think Tony might use a dart board.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 14, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

he probably has some kind of charts

wherever the dart lands

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah

starters are using those

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

loved that cartoon

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

im still curious about somehting someone put up yesterday

about someone pitch 1/3 iniing and giving up an ER on one pitch

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, i've seen something that might work there

say there was a runner on base and the new pitcher comes in and on his first pitch the batter homers. but the runner doesn’t touch a base on his way around, so he ends up out but the homer counts. also, i suppose it could be the homer hitter passing the runner. i gotta check the grill, but that’s what i got right now.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently

not. Reached first on an error by the pitcher, which allowed 2 runs to score in the third, then was issued a walk with the bases loaded in the seventh.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think if you, say, groundout to second

and a runner scores from third, you get an rbi, so it must be the same if he boots the ball and you get on, because the run would’ve scored even without the error. however, i don’t know how barmes could get 2 rbi’s on the play above, because both don’t score without the error (maybe, maybe one)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh my gob

I just pictured Tim Kurkjian’s voice breaking as he explains this.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

joe morgan paused for a moment, speechless, then told a rambling story about a hit-and-run

play from 1976..

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 13, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

or playing golf

with clint barmes

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 13, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

...that never happened.

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 14, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE WWL IS BROKEN!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

what happened

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

they've lost their audio

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by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, no, it's just f'in Dish Network

unless a lot of other channels are f’ed up too

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finally got around to gettin' my STL@CIN pictures online.

Picasa Album

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 13, 2010 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I like your captions

(Yadi’s missing an I, I think. I just clicked away.)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 13, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

on a completely trivial note

that looks like a good shot of the new mouthpieces. Yadi’s holding his.

they need to invent mouthpiece holders (maybe a small bag…?), so they can tuck them away without catching the plague.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Inside joke between me and a couple Cards friends.

We always deliberately pronounce “Yadier” as “Yay-Durr”

Hence….Yader-time.

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice, haha

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

so.... Darth Yader?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perfect.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Arm is strong with this one.

This space for lease. Contact within.

by TBender on Apr 14, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

It's all good; I post 'em for people to use.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff

Thanks for posting these.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 14, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

YES! SHOULDER LICK

bonus points for you.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I made it an absolute point to get photo-evidence of the lick.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is not that much!

the Sampler was born of my fruitless search of it. finally that twitter-fan erika got him in her slideshow. now this. sweeeet.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

vexed

you ever hear anything about the upton contest?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I haven't yet....

Kinda pissin’ me off now. Their website hasn’t changed since the contest ended. No emails have been sent out…

Just seemingly a poorly-run website by Mercury Communications Group.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT: oakland's catcher isn't just japanese

he’s a ninja. I don’t have the highlight to link yet because it jus happened but I suggest looking at the M’s-A’s highlights when the game is over

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Kurt Suzuki is awesome.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's growing on me

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a sick play.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been told before

that I am a ninja

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe a Beverly hills ninja

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

stealth is all you need

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just yelled "that's fucking wrong!"

that was so right.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chone was safe

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

No he wasn't

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

on the replay i just saw he was

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you seen it from the outfield angle?

he was out by a foot.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

no, just the 3rd base camera i guess?

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now what do you think?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they show giants/pirates highlights

i’m watching that, and panda tried to bowl over the catcher who was waiting for him. the catcher got out of the way like a red cape.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Safe.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

how do you figure....

I guarantee you the ball is in his mitt.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

/sarcasm

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's late.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Please read the primary disclaimer in my signature.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

vid

link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

just when i thought this monkey flip catch was the highlight

the m/f throws the guy on 3rd
can he be our emergency ninja/catcher?

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anyone was wondering or cared

lunchables are amazing.

in baseball related news, albert pujols in now second in the league in WAR.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

lunchables? are you seven?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he could've saved himself by saying 'bento box'

then he’d be merely geeky.

i always remembered lunchables as too salty.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Way salty.

I ate them sometimes when I was a child, but you’d have to pay me to get me to eat one now.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lots of nitrates, too.

Drink 1% chocolate milk. That’s the perfect snack.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's true!

i’m a big fan of toast with peanut butter as my ritualistic snack. hooray protein and fiber and carbs!

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would do vile dirty things to any sort of nut butter

almond, cashew, peanut, hazelnut, etc.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just laughed

then didn’t know why

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

hehehe

i know why!

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

do you like cows?

/full circle

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

you said nut butter

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i also like butternut squash

but yeah…i couldn’t think of a nice way to construct that sentence.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

pistachio spread is delicious too

i add that to like a turkey/avacado sandwich.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

and of course

pine nuts in a homemade pesto and whole grain pasta. fuck yea now i’m hungry.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

nutella FTW

best stuff on earth

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 14, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

ain't that the truth

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's the last time we try to save your life

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

batteries and motor oil?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't you mean batteries & the tears of small children?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

something like that

i’ll be working out twice a day and not eating carbs, thank you.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

call us when you look like Skip

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha!

i weighed 170 when i graduated high school. i currently weigh 220. if that gives you a hint. (some of that is "filling out or whatever—i’m 6’4—but you get the point).

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

obviously you take after your mother's side of the family

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

fang, your moms was 6'5", 240 lbs!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Told you guys it wasn't me.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

they never listen

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sure Cgirly will post the FB pics before then

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

so, OMS

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Old Man Strength

it’s approaching.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know what that means

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

and by weight

you mean the muscle mass you just acquired from lifting..sigh…children these days.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

then running is even worse.

seriously man, i tried lifting/running combo in a day and i didn’t gain any weight (i’m spry) and didn’t make any gains in muscle mass. i just think that strategy is unhealthy.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or, you could get a reasonable diet

Do a very quick tempo 2 hour workout once every two days, get a lot of sleep, don’t smoke weed and get the munchies and end up eating an entire jar of Biscoff spread…. ya know?

by vivaelpujols on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

smoking weed helped me get in shape. i’m skinny enough as is, so i needed to really put in the protein and carbs and such. so i would rip a few, go lift, come back and engulf. the key is to avoid eating terrible terrible things when you’re high. so no more fruit snacks, hello instant oatmeal.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ditto

I find I can push myself a lot more while high as I don’t really have any will to stop. The problem is if you don’t get yourself busy with something, you’ll end up eating a bunch of shit and get all fat and stuff.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

it’s difficult, as my stoned willpower is terrible sometimes. but the eating terrible junk is something i’ve just weened myself off of.

fux my connect really needs to answer his phone. err…

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

All that does is put you in a weird state of ketosis and drop a lot of water weight

All it takes is eating less and/or doing more cardio, eating a gram of protein for every pound you weigh and doing some weight training. There aren’t any fancy tricks: losing weight is as simple making the calories you burn > calories you eat. And your body repairing/possibly building muscle is probably the most calorie taxing thing you can do (although if you are eating fewer calories than you are burning you won’t build too much mass).

It’s a 100% thing.

Trying to operate without the staple of energy for the human diet for the past ohhh millions of years just can’t be a good idea…..that is if you actually want to exercise/get into shape and not just just drop pounds you’ll put back on when your body re-adjusts to eating carbs. You need proteins/carbs/fats.

And don’t drink diet soda, that just screws with your metabolism and makes you hungry.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

or....

what this far more informed person said.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

soda is the single biggest obstacle i will ever have. i LOVE it. i’ve been telling myself i’m going to cold turkey on it for three years. it hasn’t happened.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

i've given up everything but a little Dr Pepper once or twice a month

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd have an IV of that, orange soda, DP, scotch & bourbon

hooked up to me 24/7/365 if that was possible

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

only soda i drink is ginger ale

delicious, delicious ginger ale.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ginger beer is more gingery.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hate gingerale

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

rly?

i feel bad for you man. i tolerated your wonderful misanthrope behavior for so long, and now you go and disappoint me.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

isn't it from canada?

sorry dude, i just never liked it

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Royale has a drink called the Mr. Smith.

It’s gin, ginger ale, mint simple syrup, and lime. (drools)

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

YES. YES YUM.

I had three of those Friday night and we ended up there again on Saturday where of course I had another.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

i've never been to the royale

do they have a good cheese burger?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

prepare to be shocked

i hate garlic

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't even know you anymore.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm sorry to disappoint everyone

i just can’t eat it, it literally makes me want to puke

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah really

allergies can also develop later, don’t they? like slight sensitivities turn full-blow?

I dunno, I just heard that.
/not a real doctor on tv

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, they can.

apparently, there’s a thing in my family where that sensitivity to garlic hits around age 30. not looking forward to that day.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

ouch!

mine’s onions. I’m terrified, man. I hope it’s just a slight sensitivity and won’t turn into something serious.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not like a terrible

analphaltic shock/stand by me type of allergy, just severe stomach discomfort.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i used to beat up my little bro mercilessly

he was still is a really skinny kid, and i would just out muscle him & torture him. somehow he found out about my garlic weakness & he used to keep garlic pills in his pocket & when we’d get into a fight he’d pop one in his mouth & i’d have to run away. i’d usually throw up a little every time

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

that does sound like an allergy

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

it was the only way he'd win

i’d never make it as a chef because i can’t even smell it without gaging

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can eat it in pizza

but like garlic butter, or anything where it’s not covered up by other ingredients i just can’t do it

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

a quarter pounder?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

un quarter pounder avec fromage!

or… ummm…. something.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's

“you know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
A royale.”
otherwise I like the reference
“it’s the one that says bad mother fucker”

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 11:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

way to miss the point...

faintly weak play on words =/= lazy verbatim quoting of cultural reference.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm

alcohol. i love whiskey and GA and whiskey sours. and….just whiskey.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like whiskey.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

sad.

you’re missing out. i don’t like the memories associated with whiskey. looking at you 2010 nfc championship game and game 2 nlds.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not missing out.

I’ve tried to love it. I just can’t. We’re two ships passing in the night.

Gin on the other hand…

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

gin reminds me of high school

blech. gin + mountain dew was high school me’s favorite OMG SO WASTED LOL drink.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds terrible.

We did straight shots in high school. Mixed drinks were something I came to late.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me too

Probably because the only time I ever drank it as a kid was when I was puking, and my mom made me drink it to settle my stomach. Bad association.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, i'm not saying i won't eat carbs

i just won’t be eating very many simple carbs. and i won’t eat carbs at night.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

To each his own

But I would imagine a few carbs would be worse from an energy standpoint than zero carbs because you wouldn’t even get to that ketosis. I for one wouldn’t even be able to begin an extended cardio excercise (running 45+ minutes or playing basketball/volleyball or the like for a longass time) without a normal serving of carbs.

The staple of any weight cut to me is whole wheat pasta, chicken and olive oil. .Throw in some garlic + some herbs and you actually can combine all three just by themselves in basically the healthiest thing you can eat that also fills you up.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're making me hungry...

and i don’t think you understand. i’ll get my full day’s serving of carbs during the afternoon hours, just not after a certain time.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or starve

Also known as “my body is going to think it’s starving and save all the calories it can”

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That too.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do that a lot

I also have a high metabolism!

by vivaelpujols on Apr 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're young.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

i do too

and it’s terrible. i hate being spry.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

F
U
i hate it when ppl say that

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

for the record

i was joking
/starting to get over careful

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I grew 8 inches (taller you sickos) in one year between 8th grade/frosh year of HS

I ate an ungodly amount of food……just disturbing amounts of food looking back.

And had horrible growing pains, and lost all running speed for about 3 years and every once in awhile had some Ankielitis of having zero idea where the ball was going. I really empathized with him there, I’d show up and start throwing and just not know where it was going. The weirdest though was one day in practice my sense of space for hitting was 3 inches low for some reason. It’s BP and I couldn’t even make contact bunting. Then the next day I went back to my normal very coordinated but no-athleticism self.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

that was me junior year of high school

i grew six inches in a year. my brother is going through the same thing now as a freshman, he’s grown six inches in the past year, it’s gotten so bad with him that he’s started fainting every so often.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the plus side I enjoy 6'2 and not the 5'7 I was dreading

Any taller and it’d be an issue for planes and stuff.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i'm 6'4

which is perfect for attracting mates. not so perfect for other things.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Add some leafy green vegetables

like chopped spinach to that dish as well as a handful of beans (black, pinto, kidney, or lentils) and you have the makings of a good dish.

People underestimate the benefits of spinach — it’s got high amounts of beta carotene (which boosts metabolism and immunity), and as many fatty acids as a similar size serving of fish, without the potential for heavy metal poisoning.

Also, a spiced lentil soup is a great meal as well, because it has both high fiber and high protein content.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Apr 14, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is if you even manage

to get into ketosis
doesn’t work for everyone
since he’s working out twice a day combined with picking food more carefully and drinking lots and lots and lots of water will do the trick better than going no carb. i speak from experience
that and what joker said

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's a wee lad he is

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

they're a perfect snack

and cost exactly one meal block at the campus convenience store. it’s perfect.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i feel safe in saying that there are no women on campus who are looking for

a man who has consumed a lunchable in the last eight years. those that are either crazy or also seven. stay away from both groups.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

how do you tell the difference...?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah

I was wondering how you could tell the difference between indifferences.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

......I see.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

do you want to have a disagreement?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

in favor of moar disagreeableness

gotcha.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're doing nothing but helping in catch you daddy son

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagged

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagged for not making sense

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

No if it had ended in

Trebek, it would have made sense.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

there it is

I was wondering about that.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

again, buy bread and sandwich fillings and you will be much healthier.

if you want to consciously get in shape and such, you’re gonna really have to take a look at what you’re eating. trust me. it’s tough but worth it.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

also

if you’re worried about teh ladiez saying

“i’m learning to take better shape of myself. sure, it’s a work in progress, but i hope its worth it”

from my personal experience at a state school, chicks dig self improvement, and if you’re eating lunchables, improved self worth.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, i know how it's done

i just get stressed at school with everything i do. i say at the beginning of the year i’m going to eat healthy and go to the rec 5 times a week. i do that for two weeks and then i don’t do it again until the summer (15 pounds later). so then all i do for the summer is lose the 15 pounds i gain, then repeat. it’s a vicious cycle.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

as a college student

i understand completely. balancing 3 student groups, 17 credits, a thesis, and VEB time is tough. the key is to find a consistent time to schedule shit around. and diet construction is really simple. it’s more discipline than time issues. but i guess it’s different for a meal plan, living on campus gave me more autonomy in this regard.

veb: self improvement and more!

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

i’ve decided the only way i’m going to consistently work out is if i have a set time to do it every day. i’m already preparing myself that i just may have to man up and wake up early every day in order to do it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah.

any way you can take a weight training or cross training class? that’s where i learned some of my shiz. if you’re taking summer classes, that’s a great time to do it.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah...

i’ll go home and have a personal trainer. you may now make your uppity middle class white kid joke.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

trying out

leinie’s classic amber tonight

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

It's okay

I haven’t had it in ages but I remember liking Grolsch Amber Ale better.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah it's nothing too special

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

leinie's 3rd best beer

1. honeyweis
2. creamy dark
3. amber

they need to make a maibock.

i could talk wisco beer all day.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

honey weiss is def my favorite, too

it was not available at my local randall’s, though

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahh to live in wisconsin

have you ever had new glaurus beer?

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't live in wisconsin

and no, never heard of it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

i do, ha sorry for the semantic confusion.

it puts leinie’s to shame, but only sold in WI. but yea, honeyweis is awesome.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still partial to their Red

It tastes like what I imagined all beer tasted like as a kid.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha that Panda "highlight" is classic.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

not that i'm complaining, but why are the Cards on the WWL 3 times this week?

since when do they show Cardinal games?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Have you heard them read?

It’s barely English half the time.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Notice how it came after the

“I’m no a maching, I’m jus Alberg” commercial

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

GOOD POINT

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

AHA!

So THAT’S why he didn’t eliminate them!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

but that was made last spring & they never showed the Cards last year

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

we didn't have big mac to talk about last year

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

but that's a non story now, there has to be something else

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

funny, i thought they were still talking about it in a game real recent. i don’t know our national tv schedule, but maybe they front-loaded us.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude, does this mariners announcer call everything?

I don’t even want to contemplate his deal with the GOB. didn’t he call a shot last year too?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:23 AM EDT reply actions  

that wasn't jay last year was it?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't remember

there was an outrageous called shot, and I want to say it was the M’s.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah it was Seattle, but Jay Buner(sp?) didn't used to call their games

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure what the GOB would care about Seattle for

I akway thought the GOB was a simple trinity:
the father: amaury marti
the son: babe ruth
the holy spirit: I haven’t figured this one out yet, Albert or Stan probably.
Nowhere do I see a concern for pbp called shots in Seattle, prob just a SSS thing, he may call HR every AB

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

second unrelated instance of holy trinity.

so kismet thread meme is between that and sock puppets.

the key is: it has to be unrelated.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

which should

kill that meme, but IIRC it persisted despite that, last time.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok plz don't elimiant me

What is kismet thread meme?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*eliminate

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

it's this bizarre ... I mean, I picked that phrase arbitrarily, because it's bizarre.

the last month or so, every two or three days (though sometimes consecutively)
a theme will emerge in three separate threads. they have no relation, they weren’t deliberately used, and they’re usually in totally different contexts — so they’re not nexdef’s.

twice is one thing… three times, on multiple threads is odd.

it’s mostly increased chances from super-heavy posting volume, but it’s still weird to watch pop up.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank u for splainin

I basically get all the baseball stuff on this blog but words like nexdef I don’t get, I’m a dork not a nerd, but I think I get what u mean about the kismet thread meme, even if I’m not sure what the word meme even means, other people coincidentally mentioned trinities.

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

haha

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I 'splain stuff.

probably not perfectly, especially at this time of night, haha.
nexdef I think is still in the outdated glossary, which you can find in the sidebar. it is hideously outdated, so some memes are frowned upon, but many are still in play.

memes are just in-jokes and repeated stuff. community short-hand.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh ur doing fine on the splainin

Lots of things on this site now make lots more sense. I appreciate it

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 1:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

geesh

every time I go chat with my bud for a few minutes and come back here there’s like 30 new comments!

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

baseball is here! catch the fever!

catch it i say!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I will finally have mlb.tv tomorrow I think

unless they still don’t work right, which is a possibility

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hope it works for you man

i thought i wouldn’t miss baseball but i’ve been a mess since the season started

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

how could you think that, gdm

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

i also used to think i'd be a billionaire jet setting uber spy by age 25

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean

baseball

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's like part of me is dead, i don't know what i was thinking

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i call it bad taste in women

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see now that

yahoo has video highlights integrated
sweeeet

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's this guy that I only partied with once

and now we talk all the time on chat.

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

total bromance

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

he might buy a house in albuquerque

and I’d go stay a summer with him

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

dude....

that’s so super ghey lawlz

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

totally super ghey

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

lithp

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

FLAG

use of word gay in derogatory sense
everyone quick, be offended!!

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am happy though!

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was too

until the anger of pretty much the entire VEB poured on me for using the word gay
people not getting offended every time someone does this offends me
ha!

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

it didn't offend me, but you gotta understand we just can't talk like that here

it’s nothing pesonal, just the rules ddee

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

except they're quoting a satire

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

someone used the r word yesterday

thought about saying something, but it’s prob along the same lines of gay. don’t think it’s ever really appropriate.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

r-tard

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you serious

people get all bent out of shape over that too?
this is an effin minefield
geeez

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am sure you could talk to Albert about his oldest daughter and understand that word's appropriateness.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

the context is the internet. what context were you thinking of?

we have NO idea if any one of the hundreds of daily readers on VEB have a child, or is teaching children, or are helping raise siblings who are mentally challenged. unless you have magically done a background check on everyone’s basement, what you choose to say does in fact reflect on you. and the community.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's charming

when you get all serious

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's funny

when you hold grudges.

but seriously… I’ve participated in more specialized internet communities than this. we sat around thinking we were the only ones around— and every time, we were wrong, wrong, wrong.

I always assume anything I post is to mixed company. there’s nothing I type here that I wouldn’t say to anybody, including the guy who walks in looking like an MMA fighter.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're making me blush

i don’t look like an mma fighter, but thx for the compliment bud!

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

nah

i’m just being stupid
the reaction did catch me off guard because i really didn’t think i was doing anything wrong and americans are so great at overreacting
i’ll keep talking about it just to be dumb, not because i’m all hurt and shit

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

because the PC po po have taken over

it sucks sometimes

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

that is true

overreacting is the only thing to do in the middle of the night, in a basement. it’s like the national pastime.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

I think I slapped your wrist about the “gay” thing, and I am neither gay nor american…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

The international "PC po po" conspiracy!

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 14, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

somehow I doubt TIPPPC will look as cool as TINC

on a Give Em The Boot album cover

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought you were

probably the one that was nicest about it

by d-dee on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just as far as the r-word

Except in the context of the hangover quote because the mispronounciation is funny, I agree. Making fun of people or use deroggatory(not sure if I spelt that correctly) terms based on those people who have diseases is just cruel and awful and reflects on all of us even of ur the only jackass doing it. Aside from that settle down on the PC police.

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 1:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And just to clarify

Disease do include handi-caps, those are just diseases where everyday activities needs assistance so cruelty towards them is even more wrong. Any mental/physical health impairing malfunction is a disease

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 1:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeahyeah

Moron and idiot were once technical terms that have entered normal, PC-approved vernacular just as retard eventually will. It’s a losing battle.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget dumb

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 1:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What about wanker?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

is monk saying it?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

WANKER!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bollocks!!!!

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm curious

Would Albert disagree with you that being retarded is a stigmata and most people would rather NOT be retarded? If so, than how can you get angry at someone calling someone retarded?

Being retarded is a bad thing – it’s not the retarded person’s fault, but it’s a defect, just like being, say, bad at baseball or short or something.

I don’t see the huge deal in calling someone retarded or gay for that matter.

by vivaelpujols on Apr 15, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

welcome to America

the PC po po have taken over

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

All of these things

plus a rec.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 14, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

very well said teach

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks...

I have to have this conversation with my students almost every year, so I’ve thought about it a fair amount.

by peach concrete on Apr 14, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's about to go green.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're everyone's fave teach aren't you?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

do you let them do reports on poe?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

math teacher...

Though I suppose I could get something going with a pendulum… Hmm…

by peach concrete on Apr 14, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

that actually sounds like an interesting problem

“If the pendulum lowers 1/8 of an inch at each end of the arc and the blade starts out 4 feet above the prisoner, and each arc takes 3 seconds to complete how long does the prisoner have until evisceration”

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

your avatar james is going to have a tummy ache

if he gets mister dahl’s peach into concrete form

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

interesting

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's it right there

I very rarely read a reason why someone just HAS to do something that clearly bothers large groups of posters. be more creative.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would you be bothered

if a person with DS was referred to as a little slow or even just slow? Something in a retarded state has been slowed down, that said I understand the discomfort someone who has more skin in the game may feel.
 Being politically correct comes from soviet Russia where Trotsky said we must be politically correct in our thinking. Asking for courtesy is gulf away from demanding it, and an even bigger leap to mandating it,

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let's stop at Trotsky, hmm?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why are you always blaming everything on snowball?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

2 recs bad 4 recs good

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 snowball

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know that was from the soviets, but that make sense...

I do understand what retarded means and technically why it applies to folks like my cousin. But the word’s technical meaning and its usage are different, and it’s the ’that’s so retarded’ usage that I try to avoid using myself. Just as I am happy to call my friend Peter a gay man, because he is, but don’t generally say ‘sacrificing the runner over in that situation is so GAY.’

And I agree with you about the difference between asking, demanding and mandating, which seems huge…

by peach concrete on Apr 14, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am reminded of when michael on the

office wonders when Gay became slang for homosexuality because “When I was a kid it meant lame”

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

very true

and way to beat up the mets.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was more happy with 7 strong innings and 8ks

from our 8th starter, but runs are fun too

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should have read this before my response (see down a few comments)

Because this already pointed out what I was saying about ask vs demand

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 1:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

in soviet russia, politics corrects you!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

you tell your students to alert the mods?

no wonder az likes to lay low

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

Except u ask for courtesy. People who demand me not use certain words or voice certain opinions which I won’t voice here (see Politics on VEB, no) but let’s just say Im wrong because comedians tell I am, that’s being PC. It’s like if I ask for a ride somewhere and there is no reason for the person not to take me which would leave me stranded, versus me demanding a ride and forcing my way into someones car

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 1:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, the ask vs. demand. vs. mandate difference seems really critical.

I hadn’t really thought about that difference before. It’s helpful.

by peach concrete on Apr 14, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah and u seem to ask

Which makes u awesome

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 11:13 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What?! for serial??

I try not to use the term “retard” in most cases, but I will jokingly refer as “ritard” (a la “The Hangover”) or “R-Tard” (a la “South Park”)

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by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

see i think the mocking of those words is just a good way to avoid them

some people do take offense and i think it’s reasonable to be conscious of it. if that makes me the pc police, i’m fine with that.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

flagging is the best option in that case

seriously. it’s anonymous for a reason.

unless, of course, you don’t trust the mods.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's a matter of that

I don’t think VEBers realize how visible we are on feeds and google rankings. we’re very, very visible. on top of it, it’s extremely hard for the mods to manage everything in such high volumes.

that’s why DanUp begs people to e-mail him already.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yet he never returns my emails

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

we need to teach you to write in meter

maybe try to rhyme

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

so it's not the anime pron links?

good, i thought he’d enjoy those

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

you'd think...

he never seems to mention those. hmm.

we should ask rb what he thinks.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you're saying

people actually read that post where i took a creeper photo of colby rasmus next to a pork chop.

fuck.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

but dude

that was awesome.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was so worried that the stick would break

and the porkchop would plummet, uneaten, to the batters eye below.

needless to say, i got some looks from the twins fan next to me.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

well extra points

you risked a porkchop for VEB.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

main page fan post

target field field trip.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like Arrested-development-r-word...

…or ri-tard r-word

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by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

or the C-Word?

or maybe a MrF?

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Seaward?!

I’ll leave when I’m good and ready.

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

tell my brother I have a nice hard cot waiting right here for him

you’d do that to your own brother?

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

well it is albuquerque.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it?

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I got nothing better to do than crash on someone's couch

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh

I have been there, a few times

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i could totally live in the querque

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would do a photo book with haikus

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd just enjoy the weather & scenery

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

bingo

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

if this goes down, want a ride?

we can take Route 66. i’ve always wanted to drive that

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've drove that

we can make it our own thelma and louise

highway 101 in northern cali is just as cool

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

is that the PCH? i'm telling you, if i could just drive around all day

and watch baseball at night my life would be just about perfect

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

color me jealous

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've been lucky enough to drive around most of the states

still have to hit the northeast, southern cali, and parts of the southeast. beautiful country we have here.

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

I need to go to NOLA still too. I’ve been most everywhere else

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i've only been between here & the STL & ARK

on 70 & through KY & Tenn. i did go to wash st when i was 4, but i don’t remember it

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

have you seen the smoky mtns?

I wanna check those out

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

i need to save up and start traveling again

a lot of my farthest trips were when I was younger
and the memory, it’s going.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes, but i haven't driven them

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

North Western MT,

and Glacier Park specifically is a must see. And I would reccommend doing it in the next 5 years, as the Glaciers are melting.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

sites I'd recommend most are

grand canyon
bad lands
painted desert
rockies
northern cali

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I said A! (A!) L! (L!) B! (B!) U! (U!)

-QUERQUE!!!! (-QUERQUEEEEE!)

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1 bearclaw

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

But.....you're all out.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wooooooah! Hold on now baby.

I’m just not ready for that kind of commitment.

Also…. I. HATE. SAUERKRAUT!

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

god

middle school version tgreenfield is just loving this right now.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Present-day Vexed

is having a Weird Al’gasm.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

.....towel?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It'll be work like $50,000 if you take it to the bank.

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Hey Houston,
Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

worth*

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

so great.

i’d see a doctor if that al’gasm continues. sounds like a terroristic threat.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't have taken that left at man stew?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 12:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

i keep telling you all, always go right

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

in what context...

never mind
never mind

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

when you come to a fork in the road, take it

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice yogi

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Apr 14, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

our plan is too turn up our amps really loud and drink lots of beer

every once in a while I will wander around the weird terrain when he is at work

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't get bit by rattlers.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

or the rabid parasite ridden jackrabbits

they kinda sound pretty cool though

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

tell us if you find a jackalope.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh I will find that bastard

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

*salutes* good luck

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

seriously though

he knows a 350 pound drummer, and we both play bass. we will be very heavy and we can drink a lot too!

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

it would be awesome

but I would probably watch baseball too much and he would get mad at me for not practicing enough

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 14, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

some skinny dude for los gigantes just took Dotel deep

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by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

totsmcgoats

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

idk my bff jill?

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

*slams copier*

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

oh, that's getting a big fat rec.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

you know

killing my mom is over the line.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

And then she lost weight.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yo momma so fat, she had gastric bypass surgery and got not-so-fat!

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by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thanks to the fang diet

of lunchables and running twice a day! IMPROVEMENT NOT TYPICAL WITH EVERYONE

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

y'know

if you’re gonna dish,
you gotta take, too.

the inverse is true.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i am pretty hungry....

but I may have some tomorrow instead.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

CJ Beatty?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say there are a lot more than 24.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 14, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

24 sucked after the 3rd season.

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

SUCKED.

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Suck it; you suck

by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love 24

Even though it got ridiculous after season 1

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 14, 2010 1:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

if i make a new thread, can we move over there please?

we’re pushing 1400 comments & my laptop is about to crash

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:14 AM EDT reply actions  

the love Dr is in

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

feryourhealth!

enter the love doctor, bimbo.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just put vinegar on it....why didn't you think of that dummy?

Ever wonder why ice cubes are so boring? It’s cause you make em outta stupid water, you bimbo! Put some fruit juice in there and put THAT in your milk!

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by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

if i had to choose between kissing a pretty girl on the lips and mouth or have a jetpack

i would a jetpack because you could get all the little girls because you could fly to them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w—SG2a6xI4

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

use a fanshot

or we’ll pile on you.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

finishing the wire tonight

without having seen the last half of the last episode for the second time, here is my updated rankings

1 > 3 > 5 > 2 > 4

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I may have to agree with those rankings.

I might switch two and five on certain days.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i couldn't switch them

i still think two is weak, but i forgot how weak 4 is. 1, 3, 5 all border on perfection

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really like two.

But 5 is really good. Not quite

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

WTH SBN?

Not on the same level as 1 and 3.

Amazing series, though.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

boo! 4 is the best with 3.

those four boys break my heart.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

gonna rewatch twin peaks next

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

My husband LOVES that show.

We have it on a hard drive. I should get around to watching it at some point.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's fantastic

if you’re into that sort of thing. definitely weird, though

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

NO WAY.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is the right answer.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

love them all though

I think quite possibly my favourite show ever.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

why no love for 4?

the school system is the best plot line of em all, imo.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

The pacing was terrible. The storyline was necessary, for sure.

But god it was like being in quicksand.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

no way

too much school kids, too much politics, not enough of the game and cops chasing those playing the game

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think the whole point of the wire

is that the game is not just the game, it operates in a broader context. where do the kids in the game come from? why have we failed them?

i don’t know, once i saw the wire not as just a crime drama but rather as “The Death of the American City” i appreciated 4 much more.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with regards to the death of the American city.

But pacing matters.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess, but i think that's just part of the way the season has to be constructed.

you can’t just jump around on the evolution of the 4 boys. plus, i honestly cried when randy is at the hospital. it was that sad.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i agree it was necessary

and season 5 was much better having all that back story instead of some new 15-year-old thug named michael popping up out of nowhere, but it was just too slow. no wire, not enough action. it focused on the school aspect too much

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by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

okay so.

best 3 characters from the following: the street, the police, and everyone else.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know everyones names. which i probably should, but damn, there's a lot of characters

street:

1. omar
2. bubbles
3. bodie

cops:

1. lester freamon
2. mcnulty’s partner
3. mcnulty or the homicide sargeant (fat guy) or carver

else:

1. namond
2. carcetti
3. clay davis

this is all off the top of my head and could easily change

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by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh and carcetti's campaign strategist

just because she was so fine

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by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

ohh man teresa d'agostino?

she looked like a bird!

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

and shit

prop joe

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by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

let's go

street: omar, bodie, d’angelo
cops: cool lester smooooooth, mcnutty, and bunk(mcnutty’s partner)
other: shiiiiiiiiiiiiit, prop joe, frank sobotka.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I assumed he meant beadie russell

as in mcnutty’s partner, no? But yeah, Bunk was awesome.

I definitely think Frank Sobotka’s not getting enough love. I think his performance might genuinely have been as good as any in the whole show, and a great character too. I like Ziggy a lot as well, although he wouldn’t be up in my favourites.

Bunny Colvin probably needs some more love, too.

Oh, and Fuzzy Dunlop. Definitely #1 character on the street.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love season 2.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i <3 ziggy

hahahahah and yes, fuzzy is the best character. it’s amazing to watch Carv’s transformation from knucklehead to good po-lice.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Namond.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 14, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

fuck

the season 4 non-love on here is just, well, very surprising. Seasons 2 and 4 are my two favourites, so I’m like the anti-you-and-spants when it comes to the wire. I also can’t see how anyone can fail to rank season 5 as the worst, even though I can see how you could like 1 and 3 plenty, 5 is clearly just, well, not as good as the other four.

Strange how you can feel so strongly about something so subjective, although I suppose that’s how a lot of heartfelt arguments have started in history.

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

and variety, as they say, is the spice of life. Although I quite like cinnamon, too.

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is also true.

5 just felt rushed and the story line was absurd with the serial killer, but then i remember that was Simon’s point, to show that the news only covers what is superficially there, they don’t cover the real shit. then i find out it’s genius.

i’m just sad mel’s husband allowed plagiarism to happen.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 14, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it was mostly the serial killer absurdity that did it for me

I also didn’t feel the newspaper sideline was as good as the ones in previous series (industry, school etc), although overall it was good and I liked the way Templeman and McNulty’s twin lies sort of span out of control as the series went on.

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 15, 2010 4:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

is this the push for 3000

or just another night on VEB?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 14, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

it's another night

off-days always do this.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

anything not approaching

the day of the holliday trade is child’s play

talk to me when VEB breaks 5k comments

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by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

too many folks for that

that’s a stealth operation – very exclusive. 3000 would be too easy with this many people.

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by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

follow me to freedom?

late night freedom?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 14, 2010 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Where's my new post thread???

Oh, it’s Wednesday? RB back to his old ways, then.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

good news everyone

strauss reporting that Pagz remains in Memphis. for now.

I think you can guess the bad news…..*

*memes were hurt in the making of this comment

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 11:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Stav is the backup! w00t!

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by mstreeter06 on Apr 14, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

In looking at DanUp's comment
if he began every at-bat with a 1-2 count his career line, at current rates, would still be .278/.327/.475./blockquote>

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Ugh. SBN'd!

The rest of that comment should read:
This made me wonder where DanUp got this stat. And where would one find APu’s stats based on the 12 different counts? Fangraphs? I’ve never been over there, but have heard that it’s a bear to navigate. (Yes, yes, I know. Sacrilege, etc., etc., Just not enough of a stathead to bother with it). Any help would be much appreciated.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baseball-reference

You can click on splits for a batter and they give a plethora of information

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by jd is legend on Apr 14, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found it.

Thanks.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 14, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That line is really amazing

For comparison, Luddy’s line last year was .265/.329/.447

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 14, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat OT

after only having watched one (ONE!) game in full so far this year, mainly due to my laptop going kaput at an unfortunate time (and even that game wasn’t live) I’m picking up my brand new netbook tomorrow morning. Can’t wait to actually catch some games live finally this weekend, and maybe even drop by a game thread if they haven’t gone too nuts after last year…

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by Felonius_Monk on Apr 14, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Perfectly sane threads...

I don’t know where you got any idea they were nuts……

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 14, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

BREAKING!:

LaRue headed to DL, Bryan Anderson gets first call-up to the Bigs…Anderson off to .333 BA/1 HR/3 RBI start in 4 games at Memphis (AAA). (via Twitter @St. Louis Cardinals)

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by mstreeter06 on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Will wear #16 as well

Duncy love!

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by mstreeter06 on Apr 14, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: Reds release..

Miles Released; Balentien Outrighted http://bit.ly/9gILAj #mlb (via MLBTR twitter feed)

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by mstreeter06 on Apr 14, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

stlcardinals.com

pic of penny coming up on the homepage = ryan ludwick

by riotmute on Apr 14, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Anybody call for a Unicentaurus-Rex?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

is that chocolate?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like it.

Found it on Geekologie today.

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by vexedtechie on Apr 14, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you believe bryan anderson got called up?

it doesn’t make any sense. don’t get me wrong, even though the decision between pags and anderson for 10 days is pretty inconsequential, anderson is definitely the better player, but what? if anderson really is viewed as the top catching prosepct, why only give one measly PA in spring? why not give him the start against minnesota?

it’s makes no sense. there’s got to be some internal dispute, likely between tony & co and mo & co about pags v. anderson. because this is mo’s call and the PAs in spring is tony’s call

anyone have any other reasonable conclusion about this madness?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

doubt it

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/4/14/1422138/anderson-finally-gets-the-callup

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you doubt what?

i presented several possible, mutually exclusive conclusions

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by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry. rushed.

i dount anyone has any reasonable conclusions. last time I checked they were talking about crows.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

my head hurts

i learned about this in class and was trying to wrap my head around it the same time of solving oblique triangles with the law of cosines

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did i say about math

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 14, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea

If Anderson was going to be the first callup (which he undoubtedly should be), they should have given him more PT in Spring and whatnot, but I’m still not complaining, they called up the (much) better player.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm of the camp

that it doesn’t matter for a couple games. if larue is going to be DL’d for more than the minimum 15 days, then yeah, it matters. but i also don’t want Anderson, off to a nice start at AAA, stagnating on the bench

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think TLR will get him some ABs

Only other lefty on the bench aside from when Floppy/Schumaker are there and I’m sure he’ll get a couple starts in here. If they were willing to give Gagz one single AB in the big leagues, they can afford to give a semi-tryout to a semi-prospect.

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by joker24 on Apr 14, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

tony needs to be real crazy this year to get any notice

russell in pittsburgh is blowing him out of the water on the craziness scale. i posted this in a fanshot, but did you see how they shifted their whole outfield right, regardless of batter, and routine balls were dropping in left? that dudes uzr took a huge hit.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 14, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i asked joe strauss

calmly awaiting his snark

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i put up a main post so you all can jabber in there.

no link. you’re going to have to go back to the main page and find it (hint, it’s at the top!), because i’m mean like that.

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by tom s. on Apr 14, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

gah!

am not good at internet

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 14, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Linki.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 14, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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