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Sunday Notes: Catching Up on Box Scores

While I was watching the Tokyo Giants put the screws to the Chunichi Dragons—there was a lot of chanting, and astroturf, and banners, and former Pirate Alex Ramirez hit a grand slam—the Cardinals went up two games on the Milwaukee Brewers. I didn't see the games, but I have some talking points, and then, in return for a companion piece I did on SBN sister blog Brew Crew Ball, Noah Jarosh of same has answered some of my questions about the Cardinals' newly-tucked NL Central rivals. 

Jaime Garcia: Early returns with pitchers can be a tricky thing—witness Rick Ankiel and Anthony Reyes (or Roy Halladay, for that matter)—and one game is hardly any returns at all. But it's good to see his first start as anointed member of the rotation work out like this, marking one basically successful trip through the starters. I only saw some highlights, but this was not the Jaime Garcia I remember being distinctly, worryingly unimpressed with in his 2008 stint. It's almost observation-by-default at this point, with the young pitchers who come back from elbow surgery without totally losing it, but the operation and the rehab seem to have given him a sharper fastball, one that looked plenty good at 90 mph. (The pitch speed graphs make it seem like he lost a fraction off it by the end of his 95 pitches—durability, in-game and in-season, is something the Cardinals will have to watch closely for a while.)

Yovani Gallardo: If Jaime Garcia's name were Kyle Lohse (sorry, Kyle) the big news about Saturday's game would be the non-ten-millionaires-club offense chasing Yovani Gallardo out of the game with that big second inning. Rasmus's sixth walk of the season—how about his Bondsian .385/.619/.923 OPS through five? Baseball-Reference tells me it leads baseball—set things up for Ryan Ludwick and Yadier Molina, whom the Cardinals are counting on for incremental (if unspectacular) gains relative to their positions, and both drove in runs against one of the best starters in the (rest of) the division. 

That's been the difference so far for the Cardinals, what's made this season's relentless bullpen worries go down so smoothly; Holliday and Pujols have performed exactly as expected, but some members of the supporting cast have performed considerably better. (Some members, meanwhile, are middle infielders.) Even Nick Stavinoha, early front-runner in VEB's Least Favorite Cardinal polling, has outpaced our wildest right-handed AAAA .300 hitter fantasies. Things will level out, probably just in time for me to see the Cardinals play on TV, but until then this is a team whose various flaws can't get in the way of... well, Colby Rasmus, mostly. 

Brendan Ryan: I am hoping his (and Skip's) poor hitting—especially given their status as Mark McGwire's pupils zero—becomes a non-story as sample sizes become large enough to worry. But while I worry anyway I've been rationalizing it like this: Brendan Ryan, who has spent his entire adult life hitting a baseball pretty well, retooled his entire swing over the offseason. Whether McGwire's tinkering was for good or ill in terms of its long-term effects on his hitting, early struggles are totally in keeping with the narrative. He's got a new swing, he's following up a career year, he has expectations, now, for the first time; these are all ingredients for a rough adjustment period, even if all his spring work has built a better hitter. 

Like most of us in VEB-land I am deeply emotionally invested in Brendan Ryan's success, and his continued availability for post-game interviews, but for now I will pretend not to be concerned. As determined as the irrational part of my brain is to infer from his problems in the first week of the season a story about Mark McGwire's hitting ideas being a hidden poison, killing the team from the inside, I refuse. If he's still hitting .067 (or even .167!) in May I will bring my fears out into the open, and it will be terrible. 

After the jump: Five questions with Brew Crew Ball's Noah Jarosh. Noah kindly ignored my original list of questions, which went like this:

1. How does the Brewers' right field situation look through the first few weeks? Corey Hart seems to have fallen into a platoon arrangement...

2. Do you like Jim Edmonds? Like, like-him like-him?

3. Sometimes, when Jim Edmonds makes a great play, and then he looks at the camera, does it feel like he's just looking right at you?

4. Because it feels like that for me sometimes. 

5. What does Jim Edmonds think about the Prince Fielder negotiations? 

Star-divide

1. The Brewers had some serious rotation problems in 2009, compounded by a pair of erstwhile Cardinals inning-eaters. What do you think about the job the front office did patching things up for 2010?

I feel that GM Doug Melvin and Brewers management did about as good a job as they could have done last offseason by signing Randy Wolf and Doug Davis. Honestly, looking at the pitching that was available in the free agent class last season, it's hard to imagine Milwaukee doing any better than they did. John Lackey was never an option for the money he was looking for. The one move that I wish the Brewers had made would have been to sign Rich Harden. He signed for just one year and $7.5MM. PersonalIy, I would have forgone the signings of Doug Davis and Latroy Hawkins for Harden.

Randy Wolf signed a 3 year/ $30MM contract, which I haven't really seen anybody complain about. He's not a pitcher that's going to carry a team on his back like CC Sabathia did in 2008, but he is a solid #2 pitcher. Nobody really expects him to repeat his excellent 3.23 ERA/1.101 WHIP performance last year, but even if he plays to his career average of a 4.13 ERA, that would have been significantly better than our second best starters ERA last year, which was Braden Looper with a 5.22 ERA. That's how bad the Brewers starting pitching was last year.

Doug Davis, I'm not as excited about. He's always been a guy who will give up a lot of walks and, consequently, a high WHIP. But again, his career 4.32 ERA sure would have looked nice last year. Really, it's hard to imagine the rotation having been anywhere as bad as they were last year, even if they had kept the same five starters. A rotation performance with ERA's of 3.73, 5.22, 5.29, 6.36 and 6.38 is tough to repeat. Though they may not be a great rotation this year, the Brewers did win 80 games with that terrible pitching last year, so it will be interesting to see how much better the team is this year. Wow, that was a much longer answer than I intended.

2. Jim Edmonds can do no wrong in St. Louis, and to be honest if I could I would be asking you five questions about him, instead of the Brewers in general. But is it worrisome to you to see him take time from Corey Hart?

This is something that I'm on the fence about. While spring training stats are usually pretty insignificant, Edmonds did have a very good spring (.292/.382/.500) whereas Corey Hart had a line of .172/.221/.313 after learning he needed corrective lenses for his eyes. I don't mind seeing a platoon between the two players. Over their careers, Edmonds has been excellent against right handed pitching and Hart has been very good against lefties. What will be a problem is if Edmonds is the prime backup for Carlos Gomez in center field over Jody Gerut. Edmonds, as you no doubt know, was an outstanding defensive outfielder in his day. Not anymore. The last year he played, he put up a -14.1 UZR. I understand that one year UZR numbers aren't super reliable, but when you watch him play you can see that his defensive game has slipped with age, which is understandable. Geruts UZR numbers don't suggest that he is an exceptional defensive outfielder, but again, when you watch him play you can see that he is better than Edmonds.

I am, and have been since his signing was announced, very cautious about what I expect from Edmonds. Having taken a year off and being nearly 40 years old, it's not hard to imagine him getting off to a good start until his age catches up to him and he drops off a cliff in the middle of the season. I hope not. I hope that he is, in fact, rejuvenated from taking the year off. We'll see how it works out, and you guys at VEB can see your old friend again in action this weekend.

3. From one team worriedly watching a slugging, free agency-bound first baseman to another: what's the Prince Fielder situation?

Not really a whole lot of news on that front right now. The Brewers did, though, sign Yovani Gallardo to a 5 year/$30MM contract, with a club option for a sixth year worth $13MM, which is an excellent deal. That, along with the Ryan Braun contract the two sides signed a couple years ago, lend optimism that Milwaukee will be able to sign Prince Fielder to some kind of contract, though Prince would obviously come at a higher price. It is also important to keep in mind that in 2010, the Crew is paying $4.5MM to David Riske, $12.5MM to Jeff Suppan and $7.15MM to the long gone Bill Hall. That's nearly $25MM that will be coming off the books after this season. For a team with an $80MM payroll (only around $10MM less than the Cardinals, who can support two 9-figure contracts), they probably will have the flexibility to sign Fielder long term.

The Problem is whether signing Prince will cripple the team in the future. The Brewers have Wolf, Braun, and now Gallardo signed to long term contracts. Everyone else is either young enough that they are still arbitration controlled or signed to a shorter contract. If the Brewers don't go overboard and give Fielder some sort of eight year enormous contract (he is represented by Scott Boras, remember), I think that the team could absorb a larger contract and remain competitive. If they could work out a 3 year/$60MM or 4/$75MM, I would be pretty happy. If you ask other Brewer fans, they might tell you differently, but in my opinion I think a Fielder extension is far from impossible.

4. J.J. Hardy for Carlos Gomez?

I'm actually not unhappy with this deal. The one problem I do have, is the Brewers made this move nearly as soon as the offseason began, prior to signing Wolf and Davis. If you had asked any Brewers fan then, they would have told you they expected Hardy to be traded for some sort of starting pitching. It seemed as though Doug Melvin, rather than exploring all his options and doing due diligence by calling any team that might have ANY interest in Hardy called one or two teams and settled for what they offered. I remember, I think there was a story that told how Melvin first tried to get some kind of pitching from the Twins, then tried for Denard Span (which would have been absolutely outstanding, if unrealistic), then settled for Carlos Gomez. The whole Hardy fiasco just seemed to be poorly handled by the Brewers GM.

As far as what they actually did get, I'm not too disappointed. Gomez is nowhere near Mike Cameron offensively, though he could possibly be even better than Cammy defensively. Gomez has all the talent and skills in the world--blazing speed, great defense, the potential to be a great bat--he just hasn't been able to put it all together. He hasn't put up an OBP over .296 in his career to this point, thought he did manage to be around .350 the last couple years of his minor league career. Gomez has been quickly becoming one of my favorite Brewers just because of how exciting he can be. Rickie Weeks, Alcides Escobar and Gomez should be fun to watch, though they will all do their share of frustrating Brewers fans.

5. Two years into the Ryan Braun in left field experiment, what do you think about it? I've always thought he looked pretty good-athletic, decent arm-but UZR and the other play-by-play metrics aren't a fan.

Well, he's not outstanding defensively, that's for sure. You would probably get all sorts of answers if you posed this question to a bunch of people. It is traditionally a line-up spot that isn't strong defensively, though that's not really any excuse. To me, I think that Braun looks pretty good in left field.

I had even seen it suggested, prior to the Carlos Gomez trade, that the Brewers could potentially move Braun to center field, citing his plus speed and how well he transitioned to LF as reasons he could make the switch. That almost certainly would have been a poor idea. But in left field, his bat is clearly good enough to overcome any defensive deficiencies he may have (it seems he is leveling off as around a -0.5 to -1 WAR defensive player). However, no matter how bad is defense gets, there's no way it is ever as bad as his clothing line.

Thanks, Noah, both for the answers and the opportunity to link to this picture one more time

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Breaking this baby in

After last night’s thread. I recently hurt my knee and have tickets to Wednesday’s game, any advice? I think I tore a ligament, and don’t know if going to the game is the best idea.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 10:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I have seats in section 159A, Row L seats 9 &10

I tore my ACL and MCL in my right knee in high school. I have been pretty injury free since then. I decided to play basketball Friday after work, because it was gorgeous out, and since it was a casual game of 3 on 3, I didn’t wear a brace or anything. Well, I put my right foot out in front of me, and my foot skid a bit, then locked and my knee just bent back and I was in a heap before I knew what happened. I can put weight on it, but I can’t bend it very much, there’s some swelling and bruising and SHARP pain when I try to do anything but limp.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Above your section

there should be a row of white folding seats. They will probably let you sit there rather then hobbling up and down the steps on crutches.

by Mister Eff on Apr 11, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet

I was worried. I didn’t want to be “that guy” that ruins the game for those around me by being awkward and invading other people’s space.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

and alcohol

Going to games injured is part of being a fan

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

True. I need to show some grit, I suppose.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

rub some dirt in it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

call ahead

They don’t release handicapped seating until game day. If you call ahead, they may allow you to transfer up to them. They are great seats. Lots of room.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

not only lots of room

they’re much higher than the row below it so you can see real well
you can also lean against the rail right in front of you and if you have to go somewhere, you don’t have to run through everyone to get out of your seat
beer guys are right there too, almost no effort to catch their attention
i absolutely love these seats
however, when the rest of the seats are pretty much sold out, they release these for sale to the general public too, so call ahead like bgh suggested

by d-dee on Apr 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I have the same problem with Braun that i do with Soriano

A guy like Skip Hotmaker can go from being an average outfielder without a role and use, in all seriousness, just his work ethic and athletic ability to become a league average second basemen, but these two guys (among others) are apparently too freaking lazy to work on their defensive abilities. Yesterday’s play where Skip took second b/c Braun just wasn’t paying attention personified it.

One guy is getting everything he can out of his abilities, the other guy is just here to hit.

by Mister Eff on Apr 11, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions   4 recs

preach it!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

amen!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's fair to say that Braun

Is lazy just because he is a bad fielder. We do not know how many hours a day/week/year he spends working on his fielding. Yes that play yesterday was a lazy play. But I haven’t seen any outfielder who hasn’t made a lazy / abscent minded play every once in a while.

I mean, Chris Duncan was/is a bad fielder. But I don’t think any one can use the term “Lazy” when it came to Duncan. There is a cert precentage of natural talent involved here.

by Evilfrog on Apr 11, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan improved.

I’ve been watching Braun for a while. I don’t see any improvement.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't use the term "athletic" to describe Duncan, either. I'd probably say "Frankenstein."

I don’t doubt for a second that Braun and Soriano both have the natural athletic ability to be at least average fielders. Yet, there they are.

by Mister Eff on Apr 11, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Braun situation is different, though.

The guy has a long, loopy (albeit v quick) swing. He’s not as stacked as some other 30 HR sluggers, yet he consistently puts up huge power numbers and walks at a good rate, AND puts up a nice batting average. He clearly has exceptional hand-eye coordination and ability to read the flight of a baseball.

He’s also very quick for a big-ish guy, and very athletic.

He seemingly has all the tools to be a plus defender. It may be something to do with his mental approach, but there’s really no reason that he shouldn’t be above average in a position which boasts such luminaries as Adam Dunn and Brad Hawpe. His glove work is poor and he takes some shanky routes, those really are two things that a guy with his skillset should be able to improve. And like Yadi2 said above, it’s uncertain as to whether he’s made any improvement in a year-and-a-bit at the position.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 12, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hotmaker FTW.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

recerific

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

line-up prediction

1) Lopez 2B
2) Ryan SS
3) Pujols 1B
4) Holliday LF
5) Molina C
6) Ludwick RF
7) Rasmus CF
8) Freese 3B
9) Carpenter P

by stxcardsfan on Apr 11, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

The natives will riot...

1) Ryan SS
2) Lopez 2B
3) Pujols 1B
4) Holliday LF
5) Ludwick CF
6) Molina C
7) Craig RF
8) Freese 3B
9) Carpenter P

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe...

1) Ryan SS
2) Lopez 2B
3) Pujols 1B
4) Holliday LF
5) Ludwick CF
6) Molina C
7) Freese 3B
8) Mather RF
9) Carp P

by LandSickness on Apr 11, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Startwick

After his RBI single yesterday, I think TLR will start Luddy. I think we are much more likely to see Skippy, Colby, Holliday, or Pujols get the day off.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Pujols...maybe, if only because of the twingy hammy, or groin, or whatever it was

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wolf is starting.

Since he’s a lefty, I suspect Skip and Colby will get the night off.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can still see Rasmus in the line-up

1) for his defense and 2) for his patience/on base ability that he’s shown thus far.

by stxcardsfan on Apr 11, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

…great reasons to start him. But, Colby hasn’t had a day off yet and we have the late game tonight on the eve of Opening Day in St. Louis tomorrow afternoon. I think this may lead to a TLR getaway day all-bench lineup.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 10:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tony will make me ever so happy if Colby still gets the start

Skip? Yeah, he has to be on the bench.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, hopefully excited to see Lopex get the start

he’s kinda sucked so far this year, but to be fair he’s been used really sporadically and has probably had no chance at all to develop a rhythm. Hopefully this will get him going.

by mattyp on Apr 11, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now is the time to

start giving Raz regular PT against lefties. It’s in everyone’s interest that he not become a platoon player by default — or, if in fact he can’t ever hit lefties and he does become one, now is the time to find out.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 11, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

How's AP's leg?

might we not see Mather/Craig at 1B tonight?

by gocards62 on Apr 11, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

JohnMarecek tweets

TLR: Tonight, Mather in CF, Lopez at 2B. Considered Lud in CF. Raz and Schu will play tomorrow vs. LHP Wandy Rodriguez. #stlcards

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 11, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boy...

That looks like an idiotic thread last night… Still, I think I’ll have a light breakfast and do some reading!

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

HFS

why even bother with the bun?

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you don't burn your hand.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

...is that lettuce back there?

!?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

a crispy wedge of iceberg helps with nutritional balance and provides a pleasing middle-of-summer coolness.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

due to your screenname, I am inclined to believe you.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

including moderation?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh...

I think I just got sick. Holy mother of eff. That’s…way too much bacon.

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 11, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

barf

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's glorious!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glorious.

Some thoughts from yesterday’s FOX broadcast:

How does Eric Karros keep his job?

Folks are still calling it a “breaking ball” rather than a “breaking pitch,” right?

I wonder what Big Mac’s lesson plan was for teaching Yadi to hit dingers?

Over/under on Colby’s OBP? .380? Over…

Over/under on Colby’s HR total? 30? Over…

How wonderful was Jaime dominating Fielder yesterday?

Why is Pujols K’ing so often?

Why did I draft Ludwick for my fantasy team?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

2-Seamers

The play-by-play guy called the two-seam fastball a “breaking pitch.” Calling a nationally broadcast game for MLB, one ought to be able to discern the difference between a slider and two-seamer.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 11:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Albert teaches Yadi.

I’m not even sure about Albert. Should we worry? Usually I can sense when his stance is off, but it’s impossible to do it without proper centerfield cameras. Is his back not allowing him to turn when he wants to?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He fouled a few pitches yesterday.

He may be getting out in front just a tad. I think he’ll be fine. I like his 2RBI single last night. Good piece of hitting.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had a couple...

line drives to short caught, and hit one to the warning track in center, as well…

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

from my seats yesterday where i could face RH swings

it seemed as if A. albert’s timing was off a bit on some of yo’s pitches. and B. his stance was not as wide as it usually was, and honestly, i have no idea if this can be verified or even if it can, what the impact of that has on his swing. albert will figure it out.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that was my feeling on his stance

but the camera angle sucks.

get back to our perfect centerfield camera already!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

last and first points

You mean Ludwig?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

watching Fielder flail at Jaime's slider

was priceless. He was just guessing. I can’t remember the last time I saw Fielder taken out of the game like that.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

...last time Carp pitched?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

did Fielder even foul off a pitch?

seemed like he never made any contact at all against Jaime

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

just for giggles

I went back and looked. In 4 ABs ystrdy, Fielder saw 14 pitches…..2 called strikes, 5 swinging strikes, 3 fouls. I was wrong about not putting the ball in play, he grounded out to short in the 6th.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMFG

five swinging strikes. Awwwwwwgrahstohlolmorahgmff.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

now think of the gravitational pull of the rotating object

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

towel?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardng Fielder

I understand Noah’s optimism, but he is dreaming if he thinks Boras has Fielder sign a 3 or 4 year contract. There’s no way Fielder signs anything less than a 6 year contract. No F’in Way!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Questions about MLB At-Bat App for Droid

Specifically the audio. Is it true it frequently and regularly cuts out? Also, what is the time delay on the audio (as in, could I listen to it while at the game live and in-person)?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

it maybe network/carrier Dependant

but my MLB at bat on my iphone cuts out a lot.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Apr 11, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

For $15,

it seems to me it ought not cut out a lot…

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 11, 2010 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

While this is true,

If it’s network dependant you really can’t blame MLB. There was I guy who I worked with that would listen to games on his iphone last year. It was a good 30 seconds behind me picking up the game on 550AM.

by Evilfrog on Apr 11, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

the broadcast is 30 seconds behind 550 and 25 seconds behind the gameday on the screen

but I’ve never had mine cut out, just not work at all sometimes when the rest of the data on my iphone works fine, worth $15 my ass mlb!

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 11, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm surprised to hear this

my At Bat is great – never cuts out, the video is ridiculously clear on wifi – looks better than my ten year old tv

by riotmute on Apr 11, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

on the video on do agree, the iphone restrics video quality when its using the cell network

which makes it choppy/blurry but atleast its everywhere, and on WiFi its HD, and REALLY good HD for the screen size

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 11, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine cuts out pretty infrequently.

But lags the real game by about a minute. There’s no way I could listen to it while at a game, but is awesome to sync up with your dvr so you don’t have to listen to dan and al.

by Mister Eff on Apr 11, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

progress or regress ?

it used to be, in all years past, when I would watch a national telecast game, on mute [see Morgan, Joe] that Shannon and Rooney (or whoever) were 10 to 15 seconds behind the TV. I was very surprised yesterday when I had gameday audio on (dodging Karros) and it was about four seconds AHEAD of the TV. A little disconcerting in the reverse of before.
I’ve already experienced the gameday radio being ahead of MLB-tv feed on my computer, ie Shannon about four sec ahead of Dan and Al, but I was very surprised when it held true against a network TV feed.

by the Tewk on Apr 11, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mine had been cutting out quite a bit in ST

but it has been better since the season has started / a couple of updates have come down. It still cuts out once in a while, but it quickly reconnects automatically now.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Apr 11, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

y'know, if anyone is interested

Blogathon 2010 is on July 31 this year (home vs. the Pirates).

Since it seems like VEB’s special talent is blogging around the clock, there’s a way to do it for charity.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

so I finally got around to reading that BCB post on why the Cubs

are a hated franchise. And it really comes as no surprise to me that the most recced explanations, and general consensus, was “jealousy.” L.O.L. Jealousy, says the Cubs fan base like the 600 pound tub of lard taunting the crowd on Maury. When an answer that obtuse and arrogant is given (and I concede it might play a very small part in some fan base’s hatred, eg White Sox), do you really even have to ask the question?

by mattyp on Apr 11, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't mind that they delude themselves that way...

but the patent excuse of “every other fanbase has Those People” just sidesteps the volume of complaints, or why people are complaining. if you don’t want to be thought of as douches, stamp down on the douches next to you. stop the wave!*

it’s like if multiple people come in and tell you what you’re doing is a problem, and you insist there’s no problem at all…

*Viva la Revolucion!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i am entranced by the mental image

Of braun in CF.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 11:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Absolutely.

I’m sure his career -17.7 UZR and -8.9 UZR/150 in left field would translate brilliantly to CF.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

that'd be sheriff territory, right there...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

the shittiness

of Braun’s defense transcends numbers. Pointing out Braun’s UZR is practically equal and opposite to pointing out the Babe’s wOBA.

by mattyp on Apr 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

his whole first week seems to have justified his defensive rep - the tipped homer, skippy's

double, the throwing error, and i think there were a couple other plays where runs clearly scored as a direct result of defensive miscues.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braun being Manny?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely

but as much as I hate FESPN, it is much funnier when Manny does it. Manny’s a HOF hitter and an aweful but very entertaining feilder. Braun is an all-star hitter and an aweful but not very entertaining (outside of the way error by other teams facing the cardinals makes you smile) fielder

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 11, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe you should take a hint

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

okay I emailed you with my other email.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's KTRS interviews, but imma have to miss 'em all

Marecek says Mo is up

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

JohnMarecek

 TLR: Tonight, Mather in CF, Lopez at 2B. Considered Lud in CF. Raz and Schu will play tomorrow vs. LHP Wandy Rodriguez. #stlcards 44 minutes ago via Seesmic

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Mather in CF...

Skip should never play against lefties. Especially with Floppy on the roster.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lopex has bad splits with Wandy

well, I think they’re decent, but they’re the worst compared to the rest of the Astros.

It’s the Wandy effect. it makes no sense, but Tony La Russa.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's no ordinary lefty...

it’s Wandy Rodriguez. logic goes out the window

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's my point

it makes no effin’ sense.

the thing is, IIRC, Skip has an even .300 line on Wandy. but it’s slightly worse than Felipe’s. it’s just that, well, Felipe does the worst against Wandy of all the stros.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wandy is a FB/Curve/Change pitcher,

and none of those pitches has a huge platoon split like most sinkers and sliders do.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

good enough to be Colby backup.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No idea...

I don’t really like Ludwick out there, recent defensive wizardry notwithstanding.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ludwick is not a bad defender

but he sure does look quite awkward at times, and I think that playing him in center is almost like an injury liability

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 11, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Ludwick's defense a lot.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, he's probably below average

but non-embarassing.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 12, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully Lopez gets some hits.

He’s seen limited action, but I’d like to see him to advantage of his opportunities to play.

The last thing we need is all three of our middle infielders struggling at the plate.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

There’s lots of other things I can think of that are “the last thing we need”…but I agree, it would suck if we had no offense from the middle infield

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 11, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

they made that right decision in putting mather in center instead of luddy

if razzle has to have a day off

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 11, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs update.

They had the bases loaded with no outs in the first inning. No runs were scored.

by notmorganfreeman on Apr 11, 2010 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

so you're saying they cubbed it?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 11, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

followed by two on, no outs in the third. 0 runs score.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

why am i not surprised

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 11, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

i was hoping the cubs were getting shut down by a high school kid

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh that's no good either because then the reds would have a 19 year old stud

and no one wants that from a division rival

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 11, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

he is getting into plenty of trouble. cubs just aren’t coming through with the RBI

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

High school to the majors...

is a serious step.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

skipping the minor leagues from anywhere is a serious step

but i see ur point

"You’ve got to play every game like it’s your last because it’s definitely survive-and-advance or don’t survive and school," Tiller said.

by stlcardsfan4 on Apr 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

base hit for leake

lol

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leake could swing it a little...

in college. 1000+ ops

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Braun looks like he should be able to play CF,

sort of like Soriano he isn’t fat or slow, but it’s almost like he isn’t paying attention at all. Those plays yesterday were just brainless.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

perhaps dreaming

of menu items for El Douchey’s?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was excited about Jaime Garcia's outing yesterday

I was rooting for him in spring training. Not against K-Mac, but for Jaime. I like to see a guy overcome adversity like he has, and the fact that he’s a lefty makes it even better. So far, the roatation has been outstanding. Even Lohse, who I thought had to get a barcolounger through the eye of a needle to get a strike called.

This team gives me a vibe like the ‘04 and ’05 clubs. They seem to know they’re better than their opponents, and expect to win. Anyone else get that feeling, or am I being way too optimistic one week into the season?

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

they're not going to end like the cubs

GOB willing.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Stav walk-off

was very ’04. That team was never out of any game, no matter the score or situation.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how badass the '04 team was

Walkoffs on the road

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 11, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And yet we really didn't

grasp just how good the 04 team was until June. They were 27-23 on May 31.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 11, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone have fespn insider?

there’s a story about new developments with pujols’ future with the cards. i’m sure its a bunch of b.s. but i still want to read it.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Nothing new, really.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch writes Sunday that the Cardinals have their payroll mapped out well, suggesting that perhaps St. Louis is the only suitor for Pujols in the end, since he’s worth more to that city than anywhere else, and the New York Yankees, one of the few teams that could afford the star, already have their first baseman for the next several years.

Joe Mauer may have reached a new long-term deal with the Twins, but another Midwestern franchise icon started the season without signing one.

The Cardinals would love to use Mauer’s $184 deal as a model for signing Albert Pujols. But Jayson Stark writes in Rumblings and Grumblings that “nobody we’ve talked to thinks they have a prayer of getting that wish granted.”

“I don’t see any way Pujols gives the Cardinals that kind of discount,” an official of one big-market club told Stark. “Everything I hear is that he’s looking for A-Rod money, and I think he’ll get it — because he’ll get it on the open market if the Cardinals don’t find a way to do it. But obviously, they will. You don’t give Matt Holliday the kind of money they gave him and then turn around and not give Albert Pujols what he wants.”

Joe Strauss of the Post Dispatch wrote last month that if Pujols wants to become the game’s highest-paid player, the Cardinals won’t be able to afford him.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny, everything I hear is that he's NOT looking for a-rod money.

i wish they would just re-sign him now so we don’t have to hear about this for the next 2 years

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're waiting on your bake sale money

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i honestly think it would be cool if the city of stl took it upon themselves to raise money for albert's next contract.

then they presented it to dewitt with one of those gigantic checks.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Start on the bake sales and carwashes already

St. Louis VEB’ers!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if it wasn't enough

how could apu turn that big check down?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about donate that to the Pujols Family Foundation instead?

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's my feeling

that he wants all he can get from the cards so he has more to give to his foundation

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

you don't want basement dwellers washing cars bro

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

get used to it

it’ll only get worse.

I think there’s 0 chance Pujols leaves. DeWitt will do what it takes, even if he has to defer half of it.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with this

and not just because i really want it to be true.

i can’t imagine the PR hit the front office would take if they let the best player in the game go somewhere else. i bet pujols would let them defer a ton of it, too.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also suspect that DeWitt is OK with a modest payroll increase in 2011

Pujols puts butts in seats, not just in St. Louis but everywhere. Remember how they expected ticket sales to be down in 09 because of the economy? They actually went up, and they cited that as the reason they were able to go after Matthew, Mark, Lugo, & John….

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And you know it's

entirely possible that AP doesn’t know exactly what he wants, either.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 11, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

now his beard worries me!

what if he has an existential crisis!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

his "beard" is whack.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

his stache is trash

it almost works

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

jokes on you

i didn’t apply for an albertofstan passport.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

they cant stop me!

Viva La Revolucion!!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's talking about the Howard trade...

duh

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 11, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

we should mull that over

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

throw in that second baseman

Chase somethingorother, then we’ll talk…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 12, 2010 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

another hit for leake

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Shelby Miller...

in action… Looking good.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

btw nice job on the 5 questions DanUp

those are always fun to read.

P.S. Count me in the minority of VEBers that never got outraged over the whole untucking thing.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

the untucking thing pisses me off to no end

but that’s probably because i hate losing to the brewers. and i hate ryan braun and prince fielder.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was on the fence about it

until someone pointed out — why don’t they do it after every game? are they saying they’re phoning it in when they lose, and that’s why they lost, not because the other team’s better…?

and so forth. i’m glad they’re knocking it off. it’s not like it makes it easier for them on the road, besides.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been slow on the beat reports

are they knocking it off? i haven’t heard.

/really embarrassed if it’s talked about in the post which i have yet to actually read

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, that's what I heard 'round here

I have yet to find the actual link (‘cause… links about the brewers lol), but I’m sure somebody here has the lowdown.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Cameron was the reason they started it, and he’s not on the team anymore

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that's good to hear.

like i said, the only reason i really ever hated it was because i hate win the brewers won. especially on our field when they swept and basically took the division in early august in 2008 (?).

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

the cubs won the division in '08

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i knew that

but didn’t the brewers essentially blow it that year and had to really hang on just to get the wild card?

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't bother me either

honestly, it’s a cool homage to cameron’s father. you can hate the team but still think that action was alright

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but it's a team celebration. it doesn't matter.

really guys? it makes them look like douchebags? i mean, baseball players aren’t automatons programmed to execute baseball related functions. they’re allowed to enjoy themselves, even if it flies in the face of traditional norms. who cares?

i think that baseball traditionalists need to pick their battles. long baggy uniforms, untucking, celebrations, etc. are just new ways of celebrating and camaraderie. sure, it’s more outward, it doesn’t matter at all to the game being played.

plus, i could rant about how america’s interpretation of baseball as some sort of grand and noble nostalgia is just a white-washing of a much more complicated past.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also remember being pissed off

when the No Fun League brought the hammer down on the Bob & Weave. Jesus, they’re athletes, the whole thing is supposed to be entertainment.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly.

a brief summation of my beliefs: who cares what they do. they won. the game is over. if you’re really that pissed about it, cheer for your team to beat the shit out of them the next game.

notice how there was never any retribution against the untucking like there was for the bomb/group celebration instigated by prince.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

now that i was pissed about

the bob & weave was simply amazing. the best part is when they brought i back once during the 2001 season just for fun. they paid big bucks for that.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

I can see rules against excessive celebration in HS/college games, but really, if you’re a professional athlete, the way to keep somebody from celebrating is to beat them.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

how special

because when his dad got home from work, he would untuck his shirt

who the shit doesn’t do that?! that sounds like a pathetic way to make it sound like they weren’t just being cocky bastards

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

this

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't tuck it in in the first place

but if i did, i would be untcking it pretty shortly after arriving at home

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

but not as soon as you were off the clock

“well, shifts over. Time to get this bothersome shirt untucked.”

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Key phrase

“when his dad got home from work”

Not “in his office just before he left to go home”

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by jd is legend on Apr 11, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's an homage not a replication.

i think us bitching about it makes cardinals fans in general look uppity and overly sensitive.

or more clearly, cubs fans.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

neither do i

as i continually have to defend minnesota against a state that is qualitatively worse than it. wisconsin homers are some of the most annoying people in the world.

and regrettably for this forum, most of my complaints are political in nature.

outside of madison and some parts of MKE, wisconsin is horrible.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though i'm a cardinals fan from st louis

As a packers fan that hurts. your better and less cub than that aren’t you? Or do you push children to throw back souvenirs while drinking old style and calling everyone else jealeous of your losing. The brewers are loaded with douchey players, but thier fellow cub despising fans are not douchey. show better class than this

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 11, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait

just so i understand your ramble correctly: my belief in the superiority of minnesota over wisconsin(based primarily on quality of life, political, non-sports related reasons) is the same logic of an annoying cubs fan?

okay….

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

for one thing

we’re not hosting political discussions anymore. see: mods.

there have been a number of these things lately, which have just served to rile up VEB members for no good reason, including the ones where people insist it’s not political, it’s just my never-ending opinion on something societal that has nothing to do with baseball.

can we give it a rest, please?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, you're right Yadi2.

i will never articulate the reasons for why i think that. because of exactly what you said. this is a baseball forum which there was a discussion about the habits of the brewers. i never want to turn to veb for a political debate, it would be regrettable and stupid.

i’m not trying to start an argument, and i’m sorry if it came off that way.

what budd was saying made no sense and i called him out on that.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not trying to nitpick everyone's asses

but really, the incidence of this in the last week has jumped up. trending up for the brand new season.

own that you have opinions about groups of people. no one has a problem with that. but lots of these sub-threads have exploded for no good reason, and people’s feelings have been hurt, — at quite a higher rate than usual. which is precisely why the mods said to cool it.

at this point, I realize was an ass for not saying anything when these threads ate up two inches at a time. if I have to look like an ass to point out the obvious, fine.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

and honestly, i did not like the way people were picking on stlcardsfan4 or whatever his name was. i thought it was rude and made veb look insular(much more so than the memes).

i didn’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings, nor do i actively ever want to. i was simply trying to convey my opinion on a discussion without actually pissing anyone off. if anyone has a problem with that, they can email me or something. on pre-game threads, non-baseball subjects will be discussed, and this one skirted on the edge of disaster. but it didn’t because i tried not to make it so. but if i failed, then i’m sorry.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think stating

“i like x more than y for political reasons” is in any way instigating a political discussion

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

why stick your head in something that you weren’t a part of in the first place?

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

:)

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Jesse Ventura will put you in a sleeper hold

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

*sigh*

don’t those jackals in the media get it, jesse was simply trying to BREAK the gridlock!

/ducks

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only could've happened if

Adrian Adonis had been Lt. Gov.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Packers fan, too.

That doesn’t change the fact that Wisconsin is mainly Illinois’ largest state park.

by Mister Eff on Apr 11, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

so true. i hate driving home on 90/94 during the weekends. pardon my language, but fucking illinois drivers. only minnesota drivers get to have the scorn of wisconsin heaped on them!

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

SW what?

SW US? Yes, it is. I thought you were in Asia somewhere?

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 11, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

SW Wisconsin...

that’s what we’re talking about here isn’t it?

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but I wasn't sure you weren't just throwing

something else out for consideration, or to change the subject.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 11, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

prob. sw wisconsin, yea?

like kenosha and such?

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once we get our peninsula back...

from Michigan we’ll kick your ass.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

when my dad got home from work he would scratch his ass

it’s not an homage. it’s an excuse.

if it is an homage, it’s the dumbest homage ever considering that it’s an homage to something that everyone does

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

never said it was a good homage

i just think complaining about it is stupid.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know if this has been touched on

but lopez is going to be at second tonight with mather in center. both rasmus and skip WILL play tomorrow vs the lefty. my only question is, who bats leadoff the next two days? lopez would be the choice tonight but he hasn’t hit anything so far this year and i’m not sure if i like him in the leadoff role. tomorrow, i don’t think tony can possibly hit skippy leadoff against a lefty, and i think the role will fall to brendan ryan. hell, molina may hit fifth tomorrow night.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe Raz?

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 11, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind usually seeing this against LHP...

Rasmus CF
Lopez 2B
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
Pitcher

Of course, switch the pitcher and BR and it would be even better

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by jd is legend on Apr 11, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think this is the more standard lineup with lefties

ryan
lopez
pujols
holliday
ludwick
rasmus
molina
freese
pitcher

the two things that definitely happen with a lefty is that skip sits and rasmus moves down a slot at the very least. i think those things are pretty much guaranteed when a lefty is on the mound.

also, i think lopez is getting too much playing time thus far. just my opinion.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Felipe had a .383 OBP last season, and a career .338

He also can play like 14 positions. He should get alot of playing time.

Also, in looking up those numbers on fangraphs, I found out he has the same birthday as me! Huzzah!

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by jd is legend on Apr 11, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

so does under-the-weather Tony mean he's more crazy or less crazy?

I just hope he doesn’t spread the plague to the team. they were actually sick quite a lot last year, and it wasn’t all “flu-like symptoms”.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno what it means for the lineup

but I hope it means fewer relievers and puzzling double switches

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have our own Braun?

no, not Holliday. Maybe I am one of the rare ones, but in the same way that I ‘expect’ Braun to do something stupid (or lazy) during the course of a Brewers’ game, I also have that daunt about Mr. Lopez. I admit he looked good at SS yesterday, but it hasn’t chilled my anxiety that he will lose concentration somewhere along the way.
I was in the thin minority that rued Floppy coming back on the team because I don’t think he is baseball intelligent.
He has sting to his bat but yesterday he watched a third strike with runners on 2nd and 3rd and one out. Right up there with the worst of mental screw-ups or, if you will, lack of understanding of what situational hitting is all about..

by the Tewk on Apr 11, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

First of all,

I would love to have Ryan Braun on this team because he is a talented baseball player. Lopex is the same except he’ cheaper and plays a position of need for us.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

but the intangibles!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will reserve my judgment until he starts to show that he can't hit this year

too early… heck, so far it looks like he is a defensive ss and is a light hitter, both of which we know are not true

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 11, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 11, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's unreasonable

Lopez himself has admitted to dogging it when he was in Washington. He made a lot of mental errors last time he was here. He has (at least according to UZR) above-average range and yet makes a lot of errors (he’s a net negative on the “error” part of UZR). I like him a lot and I think he’s a good fielder but he does make a lot of errors, some of which appear to be at least somewhat mental in nature.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Apr 12, 2010 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

let's see - 108 pitches on leake. two walks in a row. dusty baker going to pull him?

no, of course not.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm shocked! shocked, I say!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

someone caved to logic and pulled him after the second walk, issued on 4 pitches.

there’s hope yet.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

those poor kids.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

aroldis chapman should file a protective order to keep baker away from him.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

side note

ESPN is showing BOWLING right now. Will they somehow manage to mention Tiger Woods anyway?

by the Tewk on Apr 11, 2010 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Guessing they call someone the tiger woods of bowling.

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by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

gutters?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone who gets a lot of splits?

Just sayin…

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

btw, last night's thread

absolutely ridiculous. i think i’m ignoring gdm, cardball, and cody today in protest of it.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

Haven’t dug through the threads from last night yet. May just stay away.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 11, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I gave up

when I realized I had skipped thru several margin-breaking subthreads and was still only about 2/3 thru the page….

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

having read it all

there’s nothing there worth reading. It’s a pure comment #s grab.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 11, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

you actually read it all?

i just z’d through it all, picking up bits and pieces at a time.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same thing.

Nothing of substance.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing at all

i left at about 2 in the morning when some actual conversation was going on. after that, it was just pure comment grabbing.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wasn't comment grabbing, i was just bored

and i’ve done a lot sadder things here

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn't talking about you.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was actually one of the funniest threads here

there wasn’t even any arguing and bullshit – too bad they aren’t all like that. most of the arguments and petty crap is hard to take, whether it be about baseball or whether something is or isn’t politics. there is a lot of offensive stuff on here, but i don’t know how anyone could find that offensive.

and as to the comment grabbing, what the hell does that mean – is there some award for it? if people are seriously concerned about their ranking in number of comments, then that is sad. and i don’t believe there is a limit on number of comments, either. so i guess i just find it sad that anyone finds it sad.

p.s. in the same vein, i found hilarious the night everything was turned green, even though i wasn’t involved, and that seems pretty damn similar.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 12, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was just a bunch of basement dwellers

alone on Christmas….It really was sad.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Apr 12, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

were else am i supposed to be on xmas?

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by gdm426 on Apr 12, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

cool

btw, mlb.com is showing strasburg and chapman live today…i think right now, but i just came over to let people know so haven’t clicked yet – it doesn’t require mlb.tv

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i Z'd through a few

then just realized it was a long, drunk ramble sesh

and promptly hit shift A

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, soriano

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by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

lol, cubs

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone just see what happened to phil?

that was just terrible luck.

el tigre has been holding on to dear life here.

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

soriano E -> loaded bases for reds.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Bases jacked for Ramon Hernandez

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by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Cubs bring in some guy i've never heard of to pitch to hernandez

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

hope he walks him

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't want...

your $7 million middle reliever to pitch in a tight spot would you?

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's already given up a grand slam to a light hitting red already this year, why not try for another

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Full count,

payoff pitch coming.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Got a feeling hernandez is going to smoke this one.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, he just Rasmus'd

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

now, i bet you Jonny Gomes SMOKES one

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walk.

Leaves the grand slam possible.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

outcome?

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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walked in a run.

Reds up 2-1, bases still loaded.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

jonny gomez up. nothing bad could come from that.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Immediately falls behind to Gomes.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sac fly.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caridad got an out.. unbelievable

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laynce "The Bicep" Nix in to PH.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

piynch hiytteyr, laynce nix.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Some other guy i don't know in to pitch.

Does Dusty PH again?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

surprisingly, no

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nix goes down.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

nix nixed.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flies out to the opposite field.

Inning over, Reds up 3-1.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cordero in to close.

He looks a lot fatter this year.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ugly swinging K of Ramirez,

Cubs last out.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i honestly think i'd rather see him walk a run in

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

wish: granted

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

no way!

they have Jeff Samardzija, he’s AWESOME!!!!! right???

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a WR

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but Marmol is good

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 11, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Book closed on Shelby Miller...

4 innings, 2 singles, 3 walks, 7 Ks, no runs

Couldn’t retire Mike Trout…

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

7 K's?

damn

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

and 4 groundouts...

kid is going to be a handful…

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

duncan's gonna hate him

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does he expect to pitch to contact if no one can contact his stuff?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

good

quick question. based on my horrible math skillz, it seems as if shelby will pitch april 21st against beloit, a game i want to attend. does anyone want to check this for me to see if it aligns.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any idea on a pitch count?

Just curious. Imagine they’re taking it easy on him early on.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Apr 11, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

16 hitters faced...

10 walked or K’d…. I’d guess around 80 pitches.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure if anyone's noticed, but the mets don't look very good

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeff Francoeur, on the other hand

looks absolutely fantastic

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

nooo oo o oo ooo oooooo

  BJRains Jim Edmonds batting second, playing center tonight vs #stlcards 18 minutes ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

sad face

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

in HD

sadface.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

the announcers’ minds are blown that with the cubs payroll they have this bullpen

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions  

EEEAAAGGLLLLE

for tigre.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it just me...

or do others like Tiger more now. Before he was just a soul-less corporate shill. Now he’s sick sonofagun that I can relate to.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

expanding his market share?

/brainstorming

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

street cred

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

SOY?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

WALKAPOTAMOOSE

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

so did he hang out with Gotay and get tips??

it was Gotay, right?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fukudome is the...

king of April.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

FLUBS LOSE, FLUBS LOSE

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure but the loss column is looking good.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah loss column!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

dang

my plug-in only pops in a magic number in the last month. none right now.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

did stltoday have a makeover

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Yep.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

try
http://www2.stltoday.com/sports/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That looks different, yes.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fear something terrible has happened

as if millions of links cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Cards fans

Quick fantasy question: Is Felipe Lopez ever gonna start? Or is he just a replacement?

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He's starting today at 2b.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 11, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good numbers against Wolf.

Hopefully he snaps out of this little funk today.

THE SKIP IS LEGIT!!

by stltrav09 on Apr 11, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

But is he gonna be just a spot starter at 2B/ LF?

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

3B/2B/SS

and maybe a couple starts in the outfield, but i think those would be much less common.
but yes.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh. probably not worth having on a Fantasy Team in a 10 team league. Thanks guys.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on how well Freese does.

And even if Freese does well, he’ll get spot starts at 3B and SS. And maybe more at SS if Brendan Ryan doesn’t find a bat.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would imagine he'll get about 40-50 starts at a variety of positions, and appear in probably close to 100 games

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has he?

I was under the impression he was going to be the everyday 2B though.

Hensley "Bam Bam" Meulens!
Better than you! Mejor que tú! Beter dan jij! 良い場合も! Mehor than abo!
"The trouble with baseball is that it is not played the year round." - Gaylord Perry

by GrahamCrakalaka on Apr 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not likely.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No. Never.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

Skip will start the majority of the games at 2B unless he hits really badly. Felipe may get a fair number of starts against lefties there, but otherwise no.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

that belongs to skip. even though skip and felipe are on a strict platoon. (well, except tomorrow night).

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're on a strict platoon?

has this actually been stated?

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know what they say when you assume....

but in all seriousness, i was expecting skip to get more starts against lefties than usual this year, now that he’s a little more entrenched.. maybe not?

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking into the murky waters of TLR divination

maybe they’re waiting for him to get on track against righties before throwing him into the soft-tossing shark tank

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

murky indeed

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are these things usually stated?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no.

he just used the word strict, which to my addled brain sounded extremely official

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

he started the last 2 games

yesterday and today

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 11, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, drop him

thanks for stopping by

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dick Watch™

0-2 with a weak groundout to first and a K, and a walk (wtf)? batting 5th and playing CF, he’s left 2 on base

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

WE JUST CAN'T QUIT THEM

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

this isn't remotely relevant but i'd like to share it anyway

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think that's a rally

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

we really can't quit them, can we

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

he almost missed the batters box with that last pitch to cabrera

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

No shit.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

look.. i wish we hadn't traded Perez

but he can’t hit the strike zone either. i’m not sure what he adds to our bullpen we don’t already have in Boggs or Motte (other than a second pitch, which Motte doesn’t have)

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I need to start praying for that second pitch

/religion

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, he did look damn good yesterday

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, in seriousness I think he's gotten wilier

but I have, and continue to have reservations about Duncan and co. not letting his craziness flow. the more he blacks out during an appearance, the better he is. (“I was talking to what glove…?”)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else rooting against Perez so we don't have to be interested in his performance any more?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh

don’t get toooo ahead of yourself. Inge K’s a lot, if he gets him he’s right back in it

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then again

A wild pitch is hardly out of the question with Mr. Perez…

by mojowo11 on Apr 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, but

I never thought Motte and Perez were much differnt. I still feel that way. It’s like Perez’ abilities grow the farther away from St Louis he gets, like some Norse myth. I just don’t get it.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, because he's on my fantasy team.

i know, NCAYFT. but i thought i could get him on the sly with my advanced knowledge.

my team sux

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

guillen double to score ordonez, cabrera on 3b... 1 out

perez really not looking good here

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

He's out of the good part of the order.

2 swinging K’s anyone?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have NO idea what just happened

but the indians announcer just flipped out and apparently nobody scored, and perez got inge out…

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

wait, flipped out?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

something happened on a groundball. he screamed loudly, i couldn't really understand him

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

did he need a towel?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure spit flew everywhere

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

the humanity!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw, the play-by-play is appreciated

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't quit them

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was going to do a "where are they now" fanpost

before Goold beat me to it

it doesn’t help that we (and the Brewers and Jocketty) keep re-hiring them.

where are you, So Taguchi

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Taguchi?

japan

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually I knew that

it would make a great song lyric, though

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where have you gone

So Taguchi-o, a (Cardinal) nation turns it’s lonely eyes to you
Woo woo woo…

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Apr 11, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Santiago taking the right approach.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perez getting squeezed?

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

perez walks santiago to load the bases

Damon in to pinch hit.. this is interesting

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Lefty with patience,

it’s blown for sure.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

walks Damon on FOUR STRAIGHT PITCHES to tie the game

good god

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Gerald Laird could have just stood there.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two straight walks and he starts the nine hitter with two balls.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i feel bad for cgirl about now

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

and throws a wild pitch, runner scores, game over

Chris Perez is an asset we lost, ladies and gents

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

17 strikes, 19 balls.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Motte coulda done that much more efficiently

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

...saving his bullets...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

[weep]

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he just lost me 13 freaking points.

arrg

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Apr 11, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's thoroughly amusing

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

his mistake

was that Inge wasn’t the last batter.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was too late to take risks now. I asked Tenzing to belay me strongly, and I started cutting a cautious line of steps up the ridge. Peering from side to side and thrusting with my ice axe, I tried to discover a possible cornice, but everything seemed solid and firm. I waved Tenzing up to me. A few more whacks of the ice–ax, a few very weary steps, and we were on the summit of Everest.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

rec'd

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow that was all sorts of interesting for me

facing YP and verlander in fantasy…verlander escapes the L, perez blows the S and i faced halladay today. hanging on by a thread.


no one especially cares about my fantasy team.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just realized something

you guys realize that dan essentially took the weekend off. between horton on friday, fox yesterday, and espn tonight, he didn’t broadcast a game this weekend. hell, it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s not even in milwaukee.

what a bum.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 11, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

over/under on weight gain?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Jack Clark Frankenbroadcaster look.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

What, fake eyebrows and a gelmet?

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

that doesn't make sense, though

why skip Milwaukee?

…wait, he’s allowed inside Milwaukee, right? the sausages didn’t file a restraining order?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man,

I wish we had that out here in Oregon. All Ski for the win. I have one can of original left in my fridge from my trip to Illinois last winter.

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 11, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright everyone

i’m about to play 9 holes before it gets dark/cold. see you at game thread.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

follow me on teh twitterz @greenfieldt

by tgreenfield on Apr 11, 2010 4:47 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: Online schooling

I’m 24, been out of the school scene for a while. Quit going when I was about 21. I had a decent job and was trying to save some money to buy a house for me and the lady friend. Then we got pregnant and I put off going back. Now my princess is two and dad needs a degree. I’m looking at going back to school and wondering what the experience was like for others.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I've been doing some research about getting a Masters online...

and I’m finding that it’s not just the University of Phoenix Online, Ranken, DeVry, etc. that are offering online degrees.

There’s a ton of what I would consider to be “regular” colleges and universities that offer degrees online.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd recommend U of I,

since it’s public university so it’s cheaper than most of the private online Unis. IMO, online classes are more difficult to focus on, but the grades are worth the same amount and you are a lot more flexible.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Macomb IL

Discipline? School was never hard for me, just never fit. Now I need to make it work.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought about WIU

but I was under the impression they weren’t as polished on the web classes.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, discipline

it’s about making it fit with the rest of your day. it’s very easy to procrastinate

look into schools in your area. sometimes online classes will have a proctored exam and it’s always easier to be closer to the school

what’s the degree supposed to be in?

by d-dee on Apr 11, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

have you checked if WIU and U of I even have

an online program for Masters of Business Management?
you can absolutely not go on campus?

by d-dee on Apr 11, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's going for undergrad

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

is your employer

willing to pay for some of it?
let you take classes on campus during work time?

by d-dee on Apr 11, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

they have complete online degrees now, in addition to blended classes that are mostly online but you have to show up four times per semester for. Stuff like that.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mickelson just Milcardfan'd his drive on 10

Ouch. That thing went farther right than Rush Limbaugh. Yikes.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

/rimshot

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Apr 11, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that looked like me out there.

Except it would’ve been 100 yards shorter.

Same trajectory though.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad second shot

Considering he was shooting from Turner Field. Can still get up and down with a decent chip to the green.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow!

His short game is unbelieveable.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

who's the leader?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woods is better at golf than me

How do you put that 6 feet from the hole?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good God

Probably thinking about Joslyn James

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just looked at Garcia's PITCHf/x stuff

Holy cow he has a monster curveball. Looks like he only threw 4 but god damn they had -9 to -13 inches of vertical movement. That’s a lot.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

.9 to 1.3 mm

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Avg. vertical break for Jaime yesterday was -8.17

Carpenter was at -8.97 against Cincinnati on 4/5

Wainwright was at -7.62 against Cincy on 4.7

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That undershoots it

Brooksbaseball misclassified a few sliders as curves. Garcia doesn’t get the sweeping action those two get, but that’s a downer curveball.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree.

And again, those stats are based on Carpenter and Wainer’s last starts.

They definitely didn’t have their best stuff.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, come on

garcia looked good yesterday but let’s not get ahead of ourselves

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is getting ahead of the curve here

But just based on the movement, he flashed a beast curve. It’s a long way to go from “flash the movement of a good curve” to “pitch off of a dominating pitch” like Waino is able to do.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what i thought

don’t fuck with wainer

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mentioned it during the thread

but I was really surprised that he wasn’t throwing the curveball more. IIRC when I saw him in the minors that was his predominant breaking pitch and the slider was more of an after thought. It was the reverse yesterday.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Apr 11, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

something like that - from todays "luddy bats 2nd" article on the P-D:
“He stayed composed. His stuff overall was pretty good,” Duncan said. “He didn’t have the curve, which is usually a big pitch for him. But he stayed with it and kept it together.”

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

strange

since the ones he threw – i think someone said 4 – were terrific. seemed to be working fine.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

are they being careful with the arm?

although the slider i thought put the most stress, a la liriano.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, Mickelson hooked it AGAIN

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Observations from Red Sox - Royals

1. David Ortiz is really bad at baseball.
2. Dick got a hit, again, what is going on
3. Jose Guillen has a lot of power #dingers

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

i get the impression things will not end well for papi in boston

as with clemens, garciaparra, and manny

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

or Bill Buckner

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Co-observations

1..A lot of guys got worse when steroid testing took hold. ortiz was one of those guys that you just KNEW was doing it.

2. Dick will end up hitting .240 with under 20 HR’s

3. I got nothin’…

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh on "KNEW"

If there’s anyone you KNEW was on ‘roids it would’ve been the late round pudgy, out of shape draft pick who came to the big leagues a year later as a pre-packaged modern Lou Gehrig at age 21 whose most amazing attribute is his incredible consistency.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dick..

Has one of those bats that when he is going he can carry a team remember? Issue is how bad he can be when he isn’t going.

Also has a walk.

by Evilfrog on Apr 11, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Annnnnd Fred Couples is done

Double Bogey on 12

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I know yard maintenance pretty well.

Not so much on gardening though

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm in a new house...

They seeded the back yard last fall, but it didn’t really come in.

They blew a bunch of blue-green seed shit all over the back yard a few weeks ago. Not too much going on.

I don’t want to spend a fortune watering something that isn’t going to come in.

Any tips on how I can get some grass in before the summer heat kills everything green?

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this point

your best option is probably sod, depending on how much yard you have, but that might be kind of pricey.

Did any part of the grass come in, or is it pretty much all a wash? If you just need to patch certain areas, get some Scott’s grass seed—I’ve always had luck with for small patches. I get some enriched soil that my wife uses for her plants, like miracle-gro dirt, dig that down a few inches, and then put the seed down. Gotta water it every day for a couple weeks, but I’ve always had success.

But if the whole yard needs to be re-done, sod is the best way to go.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it's a whole yard situation.

The problem is that the builder put down that netting on top of the seed, so at this point I’ve got a lot of nonsense back there.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

green spray paint

is always an option

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just saw

Scott’s (I think!) selling a full system, where it’s the mulching plus the fertilizer plus the seed.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you referring to Scott's...

As in the official lawn care company of the St. Louis Cardinals???

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me check my avatar!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, you're kind of in a jam

I hate that netting and spray crap. I’ve never seen it or straw work well. It’s almost too late in the season to try and re-seed.

I hate to tell you, but if you want a good looking yard this year, I think sod is the only real option. If you want to give it a little more time to see what comes in, you can do that and maybe try to overseed next spring and go from there, but I think you’re fairly limited in options for this year.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

Hopefully I can find some sod on the cheap.

Not many places carry it past May or June because it’s impossible to keep alive.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

out of curiosity

about when is “too late”?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

For me

If you’re going to seed, mid-March (usually) is about the time to put it in. You have enough time to see what’s going to take and where you might need to re-seed, because from now on it’s going to start getting too hot to get a lot of growth from seeding. If you’re going to sod, you should be okay for awhile yet.

But that’s just been my experience here on the Illinois side of St. Louis.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better that than

menstruating.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did straw at my place last year

it ain’t a putting green, but straw works at least to some extent….

I’ve also been told you can put grass seed down basically whenever….watering it enough is the key.

by nota bene on Apr 11, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

but not in the afternnoon sun, right?

that’s what i was told – water in the late morning and early evening.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

edmonds is 5-15 lifetime against carp

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

why oh why

did dunk had to get the closeup?

by d-dee on Apr 11, 2010 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

that's christopher walken

they should have included the other aspect of the game and put jose in there with a glove on his hand

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

the sith always come in twos, master and apprentice.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To be fair, mac with the closeup would have just been one gigantic forearm.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 11, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

mickelson on fire

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my lord

i don’t really even follow golf but that was an ABSURD shot.

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he even scraped the tree with his club

the announcer said that’s the most aggressive shot he’s ever seen at a major, and i’m sure he’s seen alot (i also don’t follow golf other than the final round of the masters)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

annnnd he blows the putt

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

he recovered though

could’ve been a meltdown…unless it comes on his drive now.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

PHILLY MICK!!

Shot of the tourney!!!

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice birdie by Westwood to stay in the thick of it

And Phil becomes Phil at the WORST time. DAMN!!

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:48 PM EDT reply actions  

fwiw...

Edwin Jackson just hit a dinger… 13 spot for the D-Backs.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

The other Jackson ends it...

record for most runs in the 4th inning was 15

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 11, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh

13 spot in one inning?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yayyy!!

I am an Anybody But Tiger fan now.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, why is it going off?

i thought this was the final round?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently fangraphs now has dewan's +/-?

where?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Everywhere

DRS is +/- defensive runs saved I believe.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh right

here’s the post explaining all the new stats

cool

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

good news, everyone

Barry Bonds is proud of Mac.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, it's slow

guarantee once 7pm rolls around it gets busy

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

bleed cubbie blue brainstorming on how to get rid of soriano's contract:

 “Wild Soriano thought I’m just throwing out here
Could Soriano be the type of guy who has so much personal pride in how he performs that, in the event of a season with a sub-.700 OPS or yet another leg injury, he would rather retire than continue being a shell of a former self?”
by EalyEagle on Apr 11, 2010

anyone think there’s more than a 0% chance soriano is so proud he walks away from the money?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

He has a gigantic ego and me-first attitude.

He’d rather post horrendous numbers and be on people’s minds than fade into the sunset.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he 'pulls a Milton'

and forces a trade out of town.

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clubhouse cancer, terrible contract, questionable ability...

It’s hard to imagine a situation where a team would take him on. Another team would have to be in the same situation with another player.

Maybe the Yankees with Granderson if he shits out at some point??

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would do unforgiveable things for 19M a year

Like play terribly for the Cubs.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's highly forgivable

commendable, even

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'd blend right in.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Apr 11, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd play well for the Cubs for 1M a year.

Sorry guys.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't he

entitled to the money even if he retires?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think so

either way, he could pull a mac

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

mac's the one

i was thinking of.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, mac did what this cub fan is proposing for soriano

mac left the guaranteed money on the table by retiring. if he didn’t retire, he could sit around and collect it. mac said he didn’t deserve the money, and thus saw none of it.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think so

Not 100% on that, though

"We're used to Favre-a-palooza now. We're engulfed in Favre-a-palooza. It's not even Favre-a-palooza anymore. He's family now."

--Vikings TE Visanthe Shiancoe, on Brett Favre

by Ted Glover on Apr 11, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a chance it could happen for them

next year?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you're saying

there’s a chance…next year – is that right?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's always next year

I think that’s what I am sayin’

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS

just saw the ending of the White Sox win over Minnesota. Twins 3rd base coach should lose his job for that one.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

What happened?

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Apr 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure if this was mentioned or not...

But Halladay goes the distance as the Phils sweep the Astros.

Houston is the only winless team in the majors.

Hopefully we can continue that trend in the next series.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Quick Halladay Scouting Report

All,

As I mentioned in yesterday’s game-blog, I atteneded the Phillies / Astros game this afternoon. Roy Halladay was dominant. How dominant? He pitched a complete game, managed eight strikeouts, and only gave up one run. Scariest thing IMHO, was that he did NOT have his best stuff. He struggled to numerous full counts. But he was saved by pretty good defense behind him and the fact that the opposition could only manage singles, most of which barely made it to the outfield.

Bottom Line: There are a few minor flaws in his game. But. Halladay is going to tear up the National League this year. Carp and Waino will have stiff competition for the Cy Young again, I’m afraid.

by JWO on Apr 11, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

and that guy in san fran is ok too

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

beat ya

should’ve went with the abbreviation

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ghostrider is above you on my page

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

sbn'd again scoot.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

not on mine

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh you need to refresh it first.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

just did

thats why i said I’ll shut up. Unless you posted before I said that. Who knows now

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He did.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

figures

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

upon further review

I’ll shut up now

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

walk it off

SBN does it to all of us.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

but, but

my ego. it really hurts!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's why you revolt

duh

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

then I shall revolt!

Viva La Revolucion!!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welley?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

minus berkman to boot

btw, how was oswalt, jwo?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am sure Halladay is gonna be dominating this year

but c’mon, this is the Astros. There’s a decent chance they lose 100 games this season. Halladay SHOULD dominate the Astros.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

check out the main post, near the bottom

link

there’s not a single player with a OBP over .350, only one SLG over .400. hfs.

.333/.357
.339/.393
.328/.375
.345/.509
.305/.376
.298/.399
.316/.371
.323/.392

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

the pitcher's spot couldn't have been much worse

they should have posted it!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

the pitcher's spot couldn't have been much worse

they should have posted it!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha

the first time

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

strasburg's first pitch was 99, though one gun had it at 100

he also doubled.

chapman gave up five hits, four of which never left the infield.

both were kind of blowing guys away.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

did they put foil around the park?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

they sold tickets, though

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was about to holler "FESPN!"

when their “most feared hitter” interviews were nothing but American League players.

then they ended with Albert, and my rage was sated.

ended with a Mike Shannon “Gooood-night.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

was mauer one of them?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup.

the penultimate one was Jeter.

however, my rage was further sated by some Brad Lidge to toy train shots. mmm.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

jeter? i'm not a jeter hater, in fact a fan, but that's strange

i guess they were going for the clutch angle

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

got it in one.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, they are fooled by SSS

he’s not exactly off to a rip-roaring start

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a new game thread set to go in ~45 min, just fyi.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet. Thanks, tom.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahahaha omgob it was a bad day for defense

BBTN.

I hope that’s not us in a bit.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

they're going to show YP

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

he needs a haircut.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa, he made a little toddler stamp when he walked damon

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have to admit i luxuriated in that a bit

took some of the pain away. but then the wild pitch/passed ball to end it reminded me of memphis last year

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

booze does a better job?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

hippie

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was kind of wild

like his pitches

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's about how long my hair is now. only bright red of course

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby V.

I know it’s popular to kill FESPN talking heads, but Bobby V. just made a comment that “Few RFs in the game can throw well this year. And two of them, are Asian.”

What the hell?

Ravich just said “Ichiro is the other one, right?”

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, that was ... mmkay.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He really is

an idiot. Not everyone goes 2-8, either. What a fool.

by pbg222 on Apr 11, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

he just said the Astros still have hope

now that’s cruel

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a REAL fur coat, yadi.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmm, Kraft dinner

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

was he trying to take credit

since he managed there?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

who had as their sig the mike shannon line about the players who will win the 2030 world series

and some aren’t born yet and some are asian? weird echo there.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

now they're talking about Lou's glare at Soriano.

buh…?!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

Kruk: He should be used to it, because [Soriano] [drops the ball] all the time!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's going to be getting the milton bradley treatment at wrigley

but it won’t faze him a bit – he’ll be uncaring in his suckitude

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

merit badge

for using ‘faze’ correctly.

I’m easy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

golly...i don't know what to say

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

y'just hang on to that thought for a bit...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

hh

i catch your drift.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was on a tee

heh heh heh

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

really looking forward

to hearing joe morgan all night tonight

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

he's the greatest

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has an award named after him, i hear

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's on form tonight

asking hitters to speed up the game by swinging more, apparently irrespective of the pitches thrown

"I told you, I don't like to be manhandled!"

by jacksonian on Apr 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ow! My ears hurt!

You heard that too? Two strikes means swing at anything. These young hitters are slowing things down by trying to walk. Sheesh.

Mute and MLB audio for the win tonight.

by KingPenguin on Apr 11, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's give the pitcher a easy pitch count

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that last night?

man that seems like a week ago to me.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

week's worth of comments

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

sshh

did you not notice we’re on thin ice?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just woke up an hour ago

thanks to our antics last night.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

no in fact it was 2 hours ago.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i only got to sleep two hours

went to church to ask forgiveness, then slept another few hours

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

fyi

for those of us not in the area, ATDHE.net has a stream tonight

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

my experience is they have espn 24/7

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

they do

just pointing it out to people who haven’t yet made that connection

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, did morgan

just suggest that umpires make players swing more?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Hal McRae

eat your heart out

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely not the ump lohse had

i would’ve been taking every pitch

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Providing some perspective on Colby's start to the season...
Rasmus is hitting .500 against righthanders (5-for-10) to date but has struck out in all three at-bats against lefthanded pitching.

It’s early, but in order to fulfill his potential, he needs to get it together against southpaws.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 7:28 PM EDT reply actions  

don't we have joey bombs to platoon with colby?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd call it more of an experiment than a platoon.

Ideally Colby would be serviceable against lefties and Bombs would just spell him from time to time.

I don’t think starting Mather for Colby whenever a lefty is starting is the ideal situation.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

"The outfield is deep and playing him straight-away, and the infield is the same, except first, second, third, and short are playing him to pull."
-Mike Shannon

by tehzachatak on Apr 11, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that won't happen

although bombs will spell colby only against lefties, he won’t spell him against all, or even most (i hope) lefties

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has

but he’s looked okay doing it, if that makes sense

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get what you are saying.

He may be striking out, but he’s not fooled and flailing at pitches.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

he’s not 2009 ankiel

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

in spring training

did they ever put the lineup against Jaime?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineups per Strauss.

CARDINALS

2B Felipe Lopez

RF Ryan Ludwick

1B Albert Pujols

LF Matt Holliday

C Yadier Molina

3B David Freese

CF Joe Mather

SS Brendan Ryan

P Chris Carpenter

BREWERS

2B Rickie Weeks

CF Jim Edmonds

LF Ryan Braun

1B Prince Fielder

3B Casey McGehee

RF Corey Hart

C George Kottaras

SS Alcides Escobar

P Randy Wolf

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm ok with giving ludwick another go at the 2-spot

mather is going to be fun to watch.

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

I saw Mather look really, really excited for Stav’s homer. he was bounding on top of the bullpen bench, in his excitement.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean

that front-row bench in the dugout

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Boog's striking out a lot...

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

bombs is going deep tonite

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi is going to go deep tonight.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is all kinda dirty.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Apr 11, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if they were batting back-to-back

poor freeze…sandwiched

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freese should be feel lucky

to make the team

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hear he's frigid

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, I may really really like Kruk now

as long as he sticks to rants and admiring Brendan Ryan.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

still talking about boog?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, but the rant was OUTSTANDING.

all the defensive muffs, he worked up quite a head of steam. “KEEP YOUR EYE ON THE BALL!!”

he probably gets to say FESPN, too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Down on the farm...

Memphis beats Omaha 11-3.

Ottavino gets the win, giving up 3 ER over 5 innings while striking out 8. Ex-Cardinal Brad Thompson gives up 7 ER on 11 hits in 5 2/3 innings to take the loss.

Box score

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 11, 2010 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

i hope danup doesn't like otto

because i do.

i was sure thompson made the big club…huh.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

once upon a time, brad thompson could pitch to AAA hitters, at least.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS

they are showing FIP on the WWL

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 7:37 PM EDT reply actions  

HFS!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

only about 15 seconds worth of screen time

baby steps

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* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Apr 11, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

they didn't connect it to Duncan's philosophy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

on the other hand

they just showed the injured bratwurst in their montage.

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

any idea how long he's out?

i’ve been betting on these things.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need an inside man in Milwaukee

(also… don’t tell the kids…

different people
are inside the sausages)

(yes, I know. I apologize for shattering dreams.)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

which one attacked larue?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was a gang action

same with Yadi, but Yadi was, uh… quicker.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

we are not gonna have big flies

with Wolf vs. Cards plus Chris F. Carpenter.

they’re using FIP?!! but to bash Carp in favor of Timmeh. wtf! I am conflicted.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

he's behind the avocados?

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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he was one of the perpetrators

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the pits

were all us

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

follow me . . .

. . . to the game thread.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

...WE'RE DOOMED.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do you mean? i am merely sweeping everyone into the next thread.

>whistles<

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yeah

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 12, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

game thread

open

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

figures

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 11, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Apr 11, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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