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head-to-head matchups - rockies v. cards

since the last time i talked to you, the whole world has changed. like the cherry blossoms of spring, baseball has come back and made residents of washington, d.c., think about something beautiful that happens right in front of them for roughly 10 minutes before they return to the televised bloodsport that is american politics, or schtupping their latest interns, or counting how much money has been relayed to them in unmarked bills in a plain manila envelope, or possibly all of the above at the same time.

in washington, just like the cherry blossoms, the baseball team is eliminated within a week.

here, in sunny cardinal nation, though, life is good. it would be hard to conceive of a better start to the season.

well, i lie a little. a better start would likely involve someone other than jason motte pitching to jonny gomez, preferably one capable of throwing more than one pitch. but hey, we in cardinal nation are not greedy. we are the best fans in baseball (tm).

despite some minor headaches to face from the bullpen, i consider the first week of baseball a huge success. first, BASEBALL! second, we have had four of five starters pitch a game, each of them more or less competently and, most importantly, with each part of their anatomy apparently uninjured after the fact. cardinal fandom, much like alcoholism, is a one day at a time thing. third, nick stavinoha has now reached what i am optimistically calling the peak of his trade value. for serious, mo, you better be on the horn to dayton moore all weekend before nick goes 2 for 37 with no walks for the remainder of april. fourth, COLBY! fifth, the cardinals have a two game lead on the cubs after playing four games. sixth, the cardinals have a three game lead on the astros after playing four games. 

personally, i am undeterred by the problems - at this stage in the season, i'd say potential problems - in the bullpen. it's an area of concern, and it will cost us a few games, but realistically a bullpen full of unspectacular guys will do us very little harm. the only thing about the bullpen that has ever REALLY killed the team was having a pitcher who was just unbelievably bad, because of injury, surrounded by a mostly incompetent staff. okay and even mediocre we can live with; as long as we don't drift into awful, where the highlights begin and end with russ springer and brad thompson, we should be okay. 

i enjoyed this article on high strikeout rates among starters; check out who tops the list and who is at the bottom. the widely varying pitching philosophies of some teams are suggested by the article.

from the "former cardinals" and "don't look now but a danup man crush is teasing us with fine performance before inevitably crashing to the ground" categories, daric barton has a .438/.565/.563 line for a .488 wOBA. mind you, that does not approach colby rasmus, with a .400/.647/.800 line, for a .605 wOBA, but you have to like that so far. barton has staked an early claim to 1b duties in oakland in a crowded 1b/dh circle of candidates that includes jake fox and eric chavez, and until recently included jack cust.

Star-divide

this week, moving east on our tour of american cities most likely to host national league playoff games, we visit the mile high city. 

Name

FANS WAR

Name

FANS WAR

Chris Carpenter

4.7

Ubaldo Jimenez

5.1

Adam Wainwright

5.4

Aaron Cook

2.6

Brad Penny

2.1

Jorge de la Rosa

3.0

Kyle Lohse

2.2

Jason Hammel

2.9

Jaime Garcia

0.7*

Greg Smith/Jeff Francis

-0.5**/3.0**

Total

15.1

Total

13.1/16.6

** WAG - presupposes something like a full season.

it's not hard to spot the source of a major discrepancy in the projected value of the colorado rotation. greg smith projects to be dreadful: CHONE gives him  a 5.01 projected FIP. jeff francis has been out so long he doesn't have a WAR projection, but he has been a valuable player when uninjured. if francis really is healthy and able to rejoin the team within the next month, the rockies have a very deep rotation, a lot like the braves we saw last week. basically, a real ace in jimenez, who is a candidate to win the cy young finish behind adam wainwright and chris carpenter for the cy young award. he is a lock for the best first name in the national league award, though. behind their ace come four pitchers, each potentially worth around 3 wins. it's nice to have all that value and have it well distributed among your pitchers, so that injury to one is not disastrous.

on the other hand, if the next step down from jeff francis is greg smith, that's a huge dropoff in talent. a brief, uninformed perusal of the rockies 40-man supports the notion of generally unappealing backup starting options in colorado, with jhoulys chacin (CHONE FIP projection - 5.02) probably leading the pack. i don't know what the money situation is like in colorado, but a glance through the remainders bin of unsigned starting pitchers might not be a bad idea.

the bullpen in colorado is a real mixed bag. huston street is out until may-ish. betancourt is a tremendous reliever. manny corpas is decent. i can't think of a reason to be particularly excited about franklin morales or matt belisle or most of the other relievers in the group. joe beimel is at AAA right now, but may join the team soon. 

most disturbingly, the only loogy currently with colorado's big league club is randy flores. randy flores spent much of last year in AAA ball, but did well in his few major league appearances - at least as measured by peripherals (10.5 k/9, 1.5 bb/9). he still got stuck with a 5.25 ERA. the ex-card has proved to be eminently hittable - posting BABIPs against of .377, .366, .390, and .362 over the last four major league seasons. it could be that he's somewhat unlucky, but after facing 600 or so batters in that time i begin to doubt that. i would recount this data in innings pitched (134), but randy's MO of entering a game and giving up a couple hits without an out make that number seem a little misleading. 

Name

CHONE WAR

Pos

Name

CHONE WAR

Yadier Molina

3.5

C

Chris Ianetta

3.1

Albert Pujols

7.2

1B

Todd Helton

3.0

Skip Schumaker

1.6

2B

Clint Barmes

1.8

Brendan Ryan

2.7

SS

Troy Tulowitzki

6.3

David Freese

1.8

3B

Ian Stewart

3.1

Matt Holliday

4.9

LF

Carlos Gonzalez

2.8

Colby Rasmus

3.4

CF

Dexter Fowler

2.3

Ryan Ludwick

2.0

RF

Brad Hawpe

1.6

Total

27.1

Total

24.0

 

the rockies have a good team on the field, with only one player projecting to be worth much more than 3 wins. they have some interesting depth, with melvin mora in the infield (probably platooning with stewart) and jason giambi, leaving a bit of a vacuum in the middle infield for depth, although the rockies have some good prospects in the middle infield should they be needed. seth smith and ryan spilbourghs round out the outfield, with at least smith probably being a better option than trotting brad hawpe out there. i don't know if smith has the arm for RF, but hawpe certainly doesn't. hawpe regularly competes with adam dunn for worst defensive OF in the majors. miguel olivo is a very capable backup at C. 

like all the teams we are looking at, the rockies are a playoff caliber team. their foundation is built a little bit on sand - with 6th starter candidates only optimistically called replacement value - and the roster could be managed a little better, but the team should definitely be in the race at the end. 

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Stav!!!!!!!!

That is all.

YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain-abayarde

by mob16151 on Apr 10, 2010 6:41 AM EDT reply actions  

and that is enough

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Apr 10, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rockies

Hard to see how that starting rotation is even close to ours.

Ankiel tearing it up with the Royals last night. 4-4 with a GWRBI.

Only four players left from 2006 team — hard to believe there has been that much turnover. Everyone says that LaRussa plays favorites, but he doesn’t play them very long.

I’m still worried this team has too much right handed hitting and not enough table-setters/speed. I feel ike every time our big guys have an off-night we need to win 1-0 or 2-1. I’m still a fan of trying to get a speedier LH bat in the OF who can sit in the 2-hole. As much as I like Ludwick, I don’t see him as a long term feature of the team.

Just win

by The Duke on Apr 10, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions  

um . . .

“I’m still a fan of trying to get a speedier LH bat in the OF who can sit in the 2-hole”
corky ramus?
Also, what is the obsession with lefthandedness? I believe you can have too much of it and I believe a lot of good players are left handed, but unless you have no lefthanded players I think your fine

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 10, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carl Crawford

I would think this is exactly why he’s going to be such a highly sought after free agent. A LH OF type, speed, can hit in the second spot. Those types of guys don’t grow on trees.

by pbg222 on Apr 10, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: today's pitching matchup

I thought the Cards pushed back Garcia to tomorrow night. The Cards site and ESPN both have Garcia listed as starting tonight and Carp starting tomorrow.

by zoomzoomj88 on Apr 10, 2010 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I...

does no one believe my trufax anymore?

Here, here’s Goold.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

SEATTLE

it’s not going well. or something.

Milton Bradley
Cliff Lee

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 9:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Cameron's getting desperate:
The correlation between the winning percentage after five games last year and the team’s final record is a measly .15 (remember, correlations are between zero, for no relation, and one, for perfect relation). A .15 correlation is basically nothing. I know, this sucks to watch, but it doesn’t mean anything.

“A .15 correlation is basically nothing.” Right… And what about a starting rotation that includes the names “Rowland-Smith”, “Fister”, “Vargas”, and “Snell”. Nothing to worry about! And a 3-4-5 of Kotchman-Bradley-Griffey? A minor dilemma!

The Mariners are going to lose 105 games and give sabermetrics a huge black eye.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 10, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, w/r/t to Lee, I would think sabermetrics as a whole

operates with the understanding that freak, extended injuries will necessarily undermine the numbers. Thing is, this is not exactly a “freak” injury for Lee; He’s had it before, and its sidelined him for a considerable amount of time. I wonder how much injury time, if any, was factored into his WAR calculations this year.

by mattyp on Apr 10, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

the prediction systems on fangraphs

thought he’d be pretty healthy. Fans thought he’d make 36 starts, Bill James and Zips, 32, and Chone brought up the rear at 30.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Apr 10, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well a .15 correlation in this context basically is nothing

I’m rooting for them to win 84 games and miss the playoffs.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how our hitting coach felt

about Stavinoha going down to 1 knee to get his long fly ball.

by sdrone on Apr 10, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

hopefully it was...

Good job kid. Now then, let’s never do that again because that’s the last time that swing will produce a HR.

by Evilfrog on Apr 10, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily

If he was sitting changeup (and against Hoffman I find it hard to believe he really adjusted and then hit a bomb on that pitch) and get a 75 mph relatively straight pitch in a place where you can reach it, do whatever it takes.

On that note though it seemed like our guys finally looked okay against Hoffman. Rasmus obviously worked a nice AB, Freese and Ryan weren’t really fooled they just missed their pitches, Stav went bombskies and Felipe hit a bullet. I really wonder if Hoffman actually was tipping his pitches or something, it seems they got better looks than I remember them getting recently.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hoffman tipping his pitches?

it’s a change up. He tips them because he is Hoffman.

by Evilfrog on Apr 10, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone got an HD capture card on their PC?

Flim?

can someone record today’s FOX game for me? I hate regional coverage, especially since neither New York nor Tampa are in my region.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 10, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

That sucks

I completely forgot todays game was on Fox and didn’t set it up with someone to record.

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 10, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah

What relation does New York or Tampa Bay have to Colorado? I think the nearest AL team is KC.

by chessed on Apr 10, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Silly people

You will watch your AL East and you will like it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 10, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I won't

If the choice is watching the Yankees or leaving the TV off, I’ll go with the off. If we all did that, maybe they’d stop giving us this New York/Boston crap

by chessed on Apr 10, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I HATE Fox and their stupid rules...

I’m in Alabama, 1000 miles from New York, 700 miles from Tampa…so naturally, the idiots at Fox determine that the Yankees/Rays are in my region, since both are closer than Milwaukee or St.Louis. And I cant watch on mb.tv, either. Looking for an alternate stream….no luck so far….GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr

by RollBirdsRoll on Apr 10, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

what really pisses me off

is that I’m blacked out on MLB.tv because it is a Fox national broadcast, even though I’m not in the viewing area and will only get the Yanks/Rays broadcast. What sense does that make? How is this upping the ratings? Do they really think I’m gonna spend four hours watching two teams I’m completely unaffiliated with just because my team is blacked out?

by mattyp on Apr 10, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. I won't even turn the Jankees and the Rays on. It's just stupid

not to mention I pay MLB for the privilege of watching the birds out of market. So far, no alternate stream locted, eithe. Damn Fox…

by RollBirdsRoll on Apr 10, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at fanposts

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

where's the stream?

i could use a backup

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think you're missing something

just look at the second to newest fanpost

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where do you find what game you get?

I’m in Minnesota so even though I’ll likely get the Yankees I feel that there is hope because of the proximity to Wisconsin.

by Holtguy on Apr 10, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno where you're at...

but the La Crosse Fox outlet is showing Cards-Brewers

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 10, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

That is just outrageous.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 10, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess MSP...

is an AL town…

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 10, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is

I was just hopeful becuase it’s the Brewers

by Holtguy on Apr 10, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

tvguide.com

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, someone suggested they found a feed online

but never posted a link (talking about an alternative to mlb.tv)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but i don’t feel like going to all those steps to get it.

by zoomzoomj88 on Apr 10, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

those streams don't generally require steps

just one click, which is why i was hoping they’d post the link.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else think that a +3 WAR projection for Ian Stewart is optimistic?

He’s basically Mark Reynolds, but with an even lower average and a less hilarious but still high number of Ks AND he can’t steal bases (or if he can, its a very well kept secret).

But seriously, i love Reynolds and i hope he goes 50HR-30SB, could’ve done it last year if he hadn’t lost about 5000Kg due to illness…

by Aranathor on Apr 10, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

No offense to Tom

But a large chunk of these FAN projected stats seem way off to me. FAN projections seem to be 25% to high on average. I am supposed to believe Stewart is going to be 2 full wins over his career high.

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 10, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

these are CHONE right?

FANS has Hawpe at 2.1

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't disagree about FANS - a little inflated.

However the position players are CHONE, so if you don’t like stewart’s projection, that’s not a FANS projection.

Only the pitchers’ projections are FANS.I’ll buy that they’re a bit homerish, but they should be in the ballpark, and hopefully all slanted in the right direction, making comparison at least useful.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Apr 10, 2010 1:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

wouldn't Colorado FANS be a little pessimistic?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

5000Kg

isnt that like half a pound?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not quite

5000 kg = 11000 lb Either Aranathor got the wrong number/unit or was using a bit of hyperbole.

by ArkansasTravs on Apr 10, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

We do all realize that Stav's HR was super Lucky right?

The ball was no where near the strike zone. It was like 5 inch’s in and 3 inch down. That is why he had to hit it off his left knee.

by FlimtotheFlam on Apr 10, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Stav's ability to hit 9th inning...

home runs off hall of fame closers is critical to our success this year.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 10, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

i expect it every game now

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

like that one time

When Ozzie hit a HR while batting lefty?

by Evilfrog on Apr 10, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the time when

Yadi hit a HR in 2006. The improbability made all the more amazing. It is why, when Heilman comes to town, I am always there for BP, to holler out my gracious thanks to him for giving up that dinger.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 10, 2010 11:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

sometimes its better to be lucky than good

and its better than lucky to be gnomish-career-minor-leaguer-hits-gamewinnning-moonshot-on-one-knee-off-alltime-MLB-saves-leader lucky

by mattyp on Apr 10, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The question is

Does TLR realize how lucky it was or did the Stavinfection just earn multiple starts and PHing opportunities at the expense of Craig?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Apr 10, 2010 11:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Crazy notion for the day:

Perhaps, just as Brad Thompson proved to be a better major league pitcher than Anthony Reyes, Stav will be a better major league hitter than Craig.

Franklin !#@$!&*%#

by guayzimi on Apr 10, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

no

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 10, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Brad Thompson was a very good

minor league pitcher. Stavi has not been “very good” at anything since high school. Tony does not get enough fiber in his diet so he supplements grit into his 25 man roster. Stavi = grit. After yesterday, it would take a crowbar and stepping over TLR’s lifeless body to get Stavi off the 25 man roster. We should just accept it and go on with life.

by jjray on Apr 10, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not exactly optimistic on Stav here

But he’s the last guy on the roster. I don’t think anyone, TLR included is expecting him to be very good. He’s a pinch hitter with a little pop (and no one outside the 25-man has a higher projected SLG than Stav’s measly .412 by CHONE, so who would be a better option anyway). He’s gotten 1 AB so far and will end up with what, 250-300 tops?. This is not something to get too worked up about until he starts getting multiple starts over Craig/Mather. Even if he starts today, who cares, the guy hit a game winning bomb, rewarding that might send a decent message to the other guys.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

reminds me of my college coach

always rode my ass, hard. We had a little guy we called Iggy, he was about 5’9" and could hit a ball a max of 200 feet and had 2 step range (talking about 2nd base here). I came in from JUCO, started the first about 10 games, then all of a sudden I’m benched. Iggy plays for about 2 weeks straight. During one game a ball comes up and hits him right in the throat. He gets up and walks around and seems to be ok. Coach turns around and announces to the bench, “It would take a team of wild horses to drag that guy out of the lineup.” Few weeks later we split time, I end up playing a few games at first, yadda yadda yadda.

After the season coach told me I should have came to him and asked him why I wasn’t getting to play. I told him it was his decision and that its not my place to question his decisions. He says, “Well, when you get a job and you don’t get a paycheck, are you going to just keep working or are you going to talk to your boss about it? The way I see it, your playing time is your paycheck.” Man that guy was nuts!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

did he ever give you a reason?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly

best reason was he just didnt like me or the way I played. I wasn’t very vocal and pretty care free. Other than that, no specific reason was ever given.

I broke my elbow in my first fall AB (HBP) – I stayed in the game, stole second, took third on a passed ball, scored on a sac fly. Tried to bat again and my bottom had was coming off on my follow through. He loved me until then, after that, I was “hurt too much” for him. I did get to wear one of those body armor elbow guards after that.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

literally broke it?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

they said on the bench it sounded like someone took a twig and snapped it. Hurt like hell for about 30 seconds, then nothing, so I thought I was good. Trainer thought I would be fine, but suggested an X-Ray just to be sure. It was fractured all the way through (If you are familiar with anatomy, it was across the olecranon process)

Bad thing was, we were playing my old JUCO, I went to high school with the guy that hit me, and I used to haul his 6’8" butt to and from practice. He threw hard, but he had no idea where it was going.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

war stories are always good

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

thanks for letting me reminisce

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

how dare you!?!?!?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

stav=vlad guerrero?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Apr 10, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

John Rodriguez?

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 10, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said above

I think Stav was sitting changeup the entire AB and was going to swing at any one close. He got blown away by two "fast"balls, fouled off a change and cranked one that he had no business hitting. If he’s sitting fastball or trying to react, he pulls that ball foul even if he makes contact.

Aside from that, I don’t think there’s really such a thing as a lucky homerun that lands 15 rows back in a dome. Gotta give the Stav some credit on that one.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm praying coaches look at that and think

“Ok. He’s not gonna make it in the majors doing that crap.”

by sdrone on Apr 10, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

A pivotal moment of management last night

Last year Tony would have probably pinch hit for Colby when Narvey came into the game. And, sure, Colby struck out (good PA, though!), but he also was still in the game to work a masterful walk from Grandpa Hoffman in the 9th and let Staviecakes save the season (we would have been a .500 team!).

Good work, Tony. Thanks for staying with Colby.

by Mister Eff on Apr 10, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Tony also

moved Boog out of the 2 hole. Respekt!

by mattyp on Apr 10, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still

don’t see how he is going to manage 6 OF, and get more than 500 ABs for Floppy. I want to see Matt, Colby, and Ryan in the lineup daily.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 10, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Lopez and spell

Ryan, Skippy, and Freese. Mather can sub when Colby needs it. And I’m okay with Stavi staying a PH for most of the games.

by Evilfrog on Apr 10, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds

like a plan. But what about Craig?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Apr 10, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bench bat/backup OF

Craig should not be getting PT over Lopez in the infield.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who?

Plays for Ludwick or Hollliday and PH when needed. Hopefully gets more time in the field than Stavi but PH about the same rate. Give Pujols those rare off days.

by Evilfrog on Apr 10, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Ryan starts hitting

otherwise, we may see Floppy playing short (perish the thought).

by CRay on Apr 10, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone earlier mentioned 3.1 WAR being optimistic

for Ian stewart…I’d have to agree, though its not the biggest piece of nonsense in these projections

the fact that Yadi is only worth .4 WAR more than ianetta is silly…i know catcher defense still isn’t really included in WAR ratings, but it’s just wrong to think those two players are that close

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Apr 10, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Well

If you aren’t projecting catcher defense, that makes sense. No one should take WAR for gospel till they get the defense straight, let alone Fan projections of WAR.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree I would take Yadi

over the Iannetta/Olivo platoon even if it means sacrificing 25hrs in the process, Yadi is Mike Matheny with an actual bat. Forgive the Rockies fans we have never even had a replacement level catcher before, too many years of Kirt Manwaring and Ben Petrick.

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I agree

That’s the point. But when you are looking at WAR, you are looking at offense + playing time only for catchers. Ianetta is a better hitter than Yadi.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah Iannetta was a 3.8 war catcher in 2008

Yadi was 3.4 in 2009 but their really isn’t anyone in MLB that would say they are equivalent players

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

their/there eese interchangeable

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

***Ticket Discount***

word to the wise, if you’re buying through the STL Cards site, code DRURY will give you 50% for Mon-Thurs games in April, or $10 off Fri-Sun games (not valid for opener)

by mattyp on Apr 10, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

COLLEGE

will you give you half off weekday games all season.

by Mister Eff on Apr 10, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great!

My thanks to both of you.

by spfldbird on Apr 10, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that for Drury

in Springfield?

Also, code “JERSEY” gives you buy one get one free. Was my “prize” for buying one of those damn jersey off their back tickets.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi is far superior to Iannetta

Unless Iannetta figures it out with the bat and gets back to the .390 wOBA he posted in 08, Ian Stewart is not a .228 hitter and guys with 11% walk rates and .235 ISO in their 24th year aren’t that hard to project as a 3 WAR playerr. His defense is much better than the -4.9 he posted in UZR last year, and he had a .270 BABIP last year following a .362 the year before.

Jorge De La Rosa seems to me to be the most interesting piece on the staff he has added a change up that sat at 81-83MPH to go with a 94-96MPH fastball with movement and a wicked slider, that 3.7 WAR last year could be a lot lower than this year. He posted 10+ks per 9 in 4 out of 6 months last year, if he consistently produces as he did late last year he give Ubaldo a run for best pitcher on the staff.

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 11:53 AM EDT reply actions  

I think

he is closer to the 22%K rates and 11%BB rates of his high minors than the 35%K he has posted early on in his career I see him as another Troy Glaus type which when you consider he is the 7 hitter isn’t too bad

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh yeah DLR

was dealing when that guy is on it is electric, when he is off he is Jeff Farnsworth

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by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the bad Farnsworth

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by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have lineups been posted?

....my quick smells like french toast...

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by mstreeter06 on Apr 10, 2010 12:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Another interesting comparison

Looking at the team broken down in this way, I’m having trouble figuring out why the Rockies are so beloved by the talking heads right now. It seems like they are expected to be more of a championship caliber team than us by many, despite being in what I think is a tougher division. Could just be me. They remind me of the Braves a lot. Not as much star power but more solid top to bottom than most teams.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 10, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I meant "Not as much star power" as teams like the Cardinals

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Apr 10, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it was that they won 92 games last year without anyone being exceptional

plus that CarGo, Fowler, Stewart, Tulo, Ubaldo, Hammel are all under 26 the bench is deep and they should only progress. That and they played .600 ball from the middle of June until the playoffs. The Cardinals have more proven players and play in the central where the Stros and Cubs could implode completely this year but they have been winning for so long the Rockies make for a more controversial pick

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares what "analysts" think?

The Cardinals have a better lineup and rotation than the Rockies. We’re probably as good or better at every position and rotation spot aside from Tulo and Stewart.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Apr 10, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true both teams

could use a few more sure things in the bullpen though

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by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

opening week is the land where Ankiel, Stavinoha, and Silva are really good

Ankiel wOBA: .442 (last night he basically supplied the Royals with offense going 4 for 4 with the game winning hit) http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7357633 the 4 hits included a home run and a double HFS

Supernoha: walk off pinch hit home run. one plate appearance and an wRC+ of 1198

Silva: first start 1.5 ERA

also, Renteria OPS to start the year: 1.737

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 10, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I caught the Bob Uecker call of Stav's HR when driving to meet up with some friends last night

I think I let out an audible “Holy shit!” when he said it was a homer. No f’in way.

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 10, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

were you so shocked that you decided to log on and draft someone

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by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineups

STL

Schumaker 2B
Lopez SS
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Rasmus CF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Garcia P

MIL

Weeks 2B
Gomez CF
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
McGehee 3B
Hart RF
Zaun C
Escobar SS
Gallardo P

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by jd is legend on Apr 10, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

f u, dawg

f u

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by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beat you by about 2 seconds

It’s a game of inches, this internet thing.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 10, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's okay

On your deathbead, you will receive total consciousness

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Apr 10, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

until today

I though Gallardo was left handed

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 10, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at fanposts my god

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

i thought you were the guy i just said that twice to and ignored me

i redact the “my god” part of it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mon Dieu, you are prone to over reaction

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

this are america

talk engliush

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you ever find out that alternative someone mentioned above

in case of problems with this mlb.tv thing?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

just hoping it works.

i could generally get it to work fine last season with foxyproxy, but this is my first time trying this year with the new player

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dios Mio you are a Rasscyst

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by TomCat009 on Apr 10, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

laneups!

cardinals -

Schumaker 2b
Lopez ss
Pujols 1b
Holliday lf
Rasmus cf
Ludwick rf
Molina c
Freese 3b
Garcia p

mil-wacky! -

Weeks 2b
Gomez cf
Braun lf
Fielder 1b
McGehee 3b
Hart rf
Zaun c
Escobar ss
Gallardo p

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm shocked

maybe tony couldn’t decide between craig, stav, and bombs, so just said “f’’k it, i’ll just go with lud.”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

phillips takes z deep

3-0 cincy

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by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

if he gets bombed again

the meltdown could be epic

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loves me some Fat Z.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

baker ph homer

4-3 cubs in 9th.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

greetings from miller park

I shall eat a delicious chorizo in honor of Jaime today. Let’s hope Infected heroics are not needed today.

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person

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by tgreenfield on Apr 10, 2010 2:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Just a warning

Shannon was pronouncing it Jay-Me last night. This could get infuriating.

by Mister Eff on Apr 10, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

On my way to Tulane-Rice

I couldn’t watch the Cards on MLB Extra Innings, anyway, so I’m less mad about missing the game. May they win in my absence.

by bmorgan on Apr 10, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

hey it's Mo.

Mospeak!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't find the game on anywhere...

My brain is not working, or I’m not very bright.

by pbg222 on Apr 10, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

give it 50 minutes.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 10, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

give it 15 minutes.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 10, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then...

Know where my wallet is?

by pbg222 on Apr 10, 2010 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

check your pants.

I'm one of those "I don't care how you killed the cow; just serve me a great steak" guys. If the results are logical and easy to understand, I'm pouring some A1 sauce on that formula and eating it. UZR qualifies. -Bill Simmons

by hazel on Apr 10, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dirty

And I did, I just can’t seem to find it anywhere. Good answer though. Haha

by pbg222 on Apr 10, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

check the fridge

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta get it

got, got to get it

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Apr 10, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWIB is still on the Yankees portion of the program.

waiting for anything interesting.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

this is boring.

Boog and Bombs is so much better.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWIBIA?

really?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

this week in baseball seems to be an awful lot about five months ago in baseball.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh they did not.

all the home runs of opening day… and no Albert. none of the home runs.

Colby’s D made it in.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm wondering which game albert goes off

today for the rook or tomorrow for carp. it’s always been my impression that carp pitching brings out the best in apu. those are the splits i’d be most interested in – how each of our hitters has performed for each of our pitchers. i understand it’s counter-intuitive, but i think there’s something there.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm watching cubs-reds on mlb.tv

harang just got his first career pickoff – lee in the role of braun.

btw, this game i’m pretty sure would have been blacked-out last year. i read an article somewhere a week or two ago about how mlb.tv has eased the blackout restrictions this year.

in other news, silva has a sore shoulder – status uncertain.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

SOON, PRECIOUSSSS.

SOON.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

WTF?

Rays and Yankees in SWMO???

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:01 PM EDT reply actions  

keep calm

it’s their pre-game show. they’ll cut to everyone else shortly.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm SO GLAD I know the weather in Tampa is "indoors"

thanks, Lowes.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone went to exotic locations

McCann played Call of Duty.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, that was really smooth of JRoll.

“Brownie points.” hahaha.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

Im calm, for now. I haven’t got to watch a game yet due to all the day games(We have Dish Network at the clinic I’m in right now, but no ESPN or FSMW), the blues game last night, and other things getting in the way. My life’s been like a conspiracy against me being able to watch the games.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

clearly it's time for you to start the revolution.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

and i didnt even mention

that the internet provider at work isn’t an espn3 provider. How does one start a revolution? Listen to Rage Against the Machine?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure

i’m stocking up on alcohol.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Machine

not being Albert though, one would be crazy to revolt against that Machine. I would certainly be eliminated

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

you guessed it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think guns are usually involved...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay, mlb.tv

it’s after 2

let’s start the feed

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

woo!

who are these chumps?

eric karros? nooooo!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are you talking about...

Eric Karros is nothing if not fair and balanced… just keep in mind The Cardinals aren’t this good and the Cubs aren’t this bad.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

great. shirtless tailgaters.

must be Milwaukee.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

we get stockton and karros.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a few pre-game questions...

1. Is there a misprint on STLToday, MLB.com, CBS Sports, FOX Sports, ESPN, and STLCardinals? I thought Carpenter was pitching today.

2. How did Big Z do?

3. Who is former Cardinal farmhand Jack Wilson playing for this year?

Thanks in advance for your help.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 10, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I see what you did there...

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

why is it not carpenter

i feel betrayed

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although you have to be happy

they got Jaime’s name right…

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

....not if you're listening to the radio.

we got advance notice of that, at least. hahaha Shannon.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah the big 550

doesn’t exactly make it up here to Chicago…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Big 550

barely makes it 30 minutes outside of St. Louis.

That station suffers from a weak stream.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

the older they get...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why did they have to buy part of the station...

so much better when it was on KMOX

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it depends on how many times people ask it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't see why it shouldn't be.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

see what happens, people.

kudos to ghostrider for picking up my braintwin slack.

we were busy constructing fanfic this morning.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So is this the game thread today?

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

i like living in texas

because mexican proxies have low ping latency

woo

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

are there any decent alternatives other than boxee?

i don’t feel like trying it out, and so far i haven’t been able to find a stream. f’n fox.

by zoomzoomj88 on Apr 10, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Boog?

Damnit first game thread of the year and no friggin Boog.. this sucks.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

scoot's starting the revolution above.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You say you want a revolution?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Number 9

Number 9 number 9 number 9 Crap I screwed that up…

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skip looks really OCD-y today.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

do not want work at 4

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Call in with cramps...

wait that only works for chicks… I got nothin for ya.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

migraine?

Flu-like symptoms?

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

plague

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

violent squirts...

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

works every time

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

stav infection

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

explosive diarrhea

works every time, most of the time.

I think VEB has had this discussion before and the * ended up choosing strep throat

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by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God

finally, Cards and Brewers in 42" of high definition

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by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

50's better

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second start*

way to do your homework announcer

Bird is the word.

by The_teague on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

for a second I was confused

“He’s a guy who can spell Schumaker or Ryan…”

and I thought, it’s written on their jerseys

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

do we? what's our comment count?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

200ish

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh.

rub some dirt on it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not high.

But I feel weird commenting on the game in a post that compares the Rockies and Cardinals pitching staffs.

by Ghostrider520 on Apr 10, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, I'll take care of it.

but I expect brownies.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah i agree

i don’t want to push a bunch of comments on this thread which should be used for discussion.

by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 10, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry no one will answer you...

I already tried.

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is just embarassing...

on the complete coverage thing there is no VEB game thread… looks like we dont’ care. Or not. I’m not sure.

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

yadi2

is fixing that. Patience is a virtue

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by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a casual care

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do they have a parabolic on the ump?

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah really

I don’t need the Ump to be louder than the announcers

Bird is the word.

by The_teague on Apr 10, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then you're obviously not one of the cool kids...

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by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

so that’s what that is. i was wondering what karros was doing

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently both teams

have early supper plans tonite…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Apr 10, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

JAIME

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

at this pace

the game might be voer by the time i go to work

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Apr 10, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Braun on facebook

promoting “Douchey’s” a restaurant for the douchiest douches in doucheland

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by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Cafe J'Douche

I’ll have the braised asparagus and a Zima.

by olddomination on Apr 10, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

douche du jour

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Apr 10, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

y'all are so impatient

THREAD
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/4/10/1414542/garcia-v-gallardo-april-10-2010

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

its about time

we almost had a revolution on our hands here!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had to fight the SBN

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 10, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

did you see what i did there

I was rather proud of myself

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

wrong thread

everyone’s over here

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by scoot on Apr 10, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

YADII!!!!

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 10, 2010 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

that pick of skip laughing at braun has been cracking me up all day

lol!

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 10, 2010 9:53 PM EDT reply actions  

*pic

"they make an adjustment or look into it, ultimately, somebody's going to get hurt" Carp was seen yelling at the home plate umpire

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 10, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he was sexily stearing into my soul

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Apr 11, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

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