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The Frightening Lineup

Yesterday the Cardinals were no hit through seven innings, and we didn't have to freak out about it. They weren't the real Cardinals, and they weren't on TV—for all the usual patter about rooting for laundry, we're pretty good, and pretty intuitive, about adjusting our allegiance based on who's wearing it. But here's the difference between the St. Louis Cardinals and the Jupiter Cardinals: Ryan Ludwick, Albert Pujols, Matt Holliday. 

The Cardinals are a pretty average team all around—there are no clear holes in the 2010 model, and that's a major boon for a team that, in the immediate post-MV3 era, looked like this. And as minor league depth goes—well, yesterday's discussion was predicated on the idea that the Cardinals' replacement level is suddenly somewhat better than replacement level. So I don't mean to advance this as a legitimate complaint about a team that's done everything it can to address same. All that disclaiming aside, submitted for the approval of the midnight society... The Frightening Lineup, as projected by ZiPS.

Star-divide

AVG OBP SLG
1. Skip Schumaker .299 .355 .404
2. Yadier Molina .289 .352 .389
3. Colby Rasmus .260 .327 .411
4. David Freese .265 .326 .429
5. Jon Jay .276 .329 .388
6. Joe Mather .261 .327 .433
7. Tyler Henley .264 .319 .395
8. [Brendan Ryan] .274 .326 .372

Having watched Khalil Greene, Joe Thurston, and Rick Ankiel just one year ago it's impressive to see that the Cardinals are able to lose their three best hitters and still keep the low OBP at .319—and for a player who would, in a non-test situation, be replaced by Allen Craig (.330). There are three messages, I think, to be taken from a pretend-lineup like this:

  1. If the team doesn't hit in Spring Training, it is often because it is not the team in Spring Training. During the few games Albert doesn't play in the regular season I find myself underestimating the drop-off between the lineup I'm used to watching and the one with Yadier Molina starting at first base, because of the anything-can-happen clause. But even one game at a time it happens considerably less often when Albert Pujols sitting on the bench.
  2. The Cardinals have a lot of depth that would not be altogether embarrassing in the starting lineup for a week or two at a time. It'll be interesting to see if the current dearth of minor league upside leads to a brief set-back in that department a few years from now. 
  3. No matter how good the depth is, a team can't win by being really deep everywhere; only one of the Cardinals' various 1.5-2 win options at third base can play at a time, and those cheap wins don't stack. The Cardinals' plan of building around two or more high-value players on the cheap gets better and better as mid-range players like Felipe Lopez find themselves getting killed on the free agent market.

In related news, this story is obviously as frightening as minor back pain gets. The incentive to build a team from cheap, interchangeable widgets is basically summarized by this story; it is the safe thing to do, and the thing that does not trip huge alarms in the middle of March over one missed Spring Training game.

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kids woke me up early,

That lineup is a good thing to wake up to in the morning

by ADMDrayson on Mar 9, 2010 8:12 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I ask one thing of Freese or Rasmus

One of them should hit 20 home runs. It’d be nice to have 4 players with at least 20 dingers/dongs. Yes, it’s a ridiculous stat to ask for, but I’ll always be a big kid when it comes to home runs.

by Mulliganstew on Mar 9, 2010 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

I suppose Big Mac is to blame for this insatiable HR appetite,

at least, if you ask Jeff Perlman and his cohorts in Camp Outrage.

I’m with you, though. The potential for four or (dare I suggest it?) five 20-home run hitters in the lineup is awesome.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 9, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

dingers!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

i'd rather have fewer LOBsters than moar dingers.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

How are we supposed to have guys on base

if we keep dingering them home and taking them off base? It’s counter-productive!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 9, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you saying

that home runs can be rally killers?

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But homerun is what all runners on 3rd do!

Oohhhhohohoho! Ees funny ‘cause dey run to de’ home plate!

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

walks clog the bases.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Dusty Baker logic

Do not walk to start rallies. Do not homer to end rallies.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Make your good young pitchers throw as many innings as possible.

Hey, there’s no knowing when they’ll lose their stuff or get injured!

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Mar 9, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst case scenario:

3 walks and a homerun. Total non-rally.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 9, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst. Inning. EVAR.

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Mar 9, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

So the way to win is to have no one on base and have no hard hit balls...

Or did I miss the message here?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 7:25 PM EST up reply actions  

no I would not rather have fewer LOBsters than moar dingers..

fewer LOBsters could easily be achieved by having nobody ever on base..while moar dingers = more runs.

by ADMDrayson on Mar 9, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think its that ridiculous a stat

Yankees had 7 last year iirc, and things seemed to work out pretty well for them (…ok, they did play in a ballpark modeled after The Derek Zoolander Center for Ants Who Can’t Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too)

I’m no Strauss when it comes to advanced stats, but I still love me some HRs and RBIs

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

rec'd for zoolander

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Mather too

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

if both hit 15

then we’re fine. Definitely asking a lot from Freese to hit 20 considering he is a rookie and he’ll most likely platoon with Lopez. Colby OTOH should improve on last year at the plate.

by jjray on Mar 9, 2010 9:07 AM EST reply actions  

Lineups like yesterday's are one of the reasons I love Spring Training.

Looking at a box score with Freese, Mather, Jay, and Henley is fun. I love seeing how Future Redbirds do in the Spring, and then divining far too much from it as to their true talent level.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 9, 2010 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

this just in: Joe Nathan is effed.

really bad tear. really bad.

http://twitter.com/JoeCStrib/status/10221101531

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

ouch

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 9, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow

They were thinking he was ready to go. WTF.

by sdrone on Mar 9, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

haha - perfect timing, ADM

Going to assume that was sarcasm.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Mar 9, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

nathan is my favorite closer

twins are my fave AL team (though nowhere near cards in my heart) – so i can’t even joke about it.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

scar tissue I wish you saw...

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Matt Guerrier could be the beneficiary on this one

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

...wins the smile competition

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a fun game to play

try to guess ‘smile or no smile’
before googling at a players profile …

by _pistol_ on Mar 9, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

without looking

try to guess theses cardinals
Skip:
Colby:
Apu:
Holliday:

by _pistol_ on Mar 9, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

yes
no
no
no

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

yes
no
no
no

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

copycat

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

wrong you are in fact the copycat.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

my comment shows up first on my screen.

but, in fact, this question was pretty easy.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope, you're the copycat, man.

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not your cat, dog.

…that cartoon sucked.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 10, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, yes it did.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I kind of liked the theme song though, which is weird.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 10, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

strange

carp has a little mona lisa thing going on. no?

by _pistol_ on Mar 10, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Mona Luggage?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Colby should smile more.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 10, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Weren't those last year's?

Albert looks bored

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

My guess:

Yes
No
Yes
No

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 6:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, no, yes, yes

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to laugh at a players troubles....

but @OHR had another great one:

J. Nathan out with bad elbow. In his secret bunker, “Dusty” Baker smiles. Another victory in the war on pitchers. about 1 hours ago via Echofon Retweeted by 7 people

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Re: Albert's back pain

He can take off all of ST, so long as he’s ready for Day 1.

by gocards62 on Mar 9, 2010 9:43 AM EST reply actions  

he can take day 1 off too

as long as he is ready for the other 161 games.

by Evilfrog on Mar 9, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

plus the playoffs

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 9, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

He's back in the cage today.

Not much to worry about I would say.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

always a good sign

"Four goals in sixteen shots... I'm really tired of the...............25% rule." -John Tortorella

by esylvester6 on Mar 9, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Only mostly joking, though you'll hate me for saying it,

but it’s a good thing we signed that guy who can play all those infield positions.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Mar 9, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Even better

Lopez, and conceivably Lugo, slide in there somewhere. An excellent exemplar of depth Danup. Maybe pencil in Lopez at 3rd, Freese at 1st, Lugo at second and Schumaker in the OF? I’d keep Mather in the OF also if healthy.

I personally find this very encouraging.

by Enigma35 on Mar 9, 2010 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

i fully expected you to

rickroll your tro lo lo vid in there

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Mar 9, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

christ MooCow

How much time do you spend grazing on youtube?

by _pistol_ on Mar 9, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Mar 10, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

oh indeed

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 10, 2010 1:45 AM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

Nah for real. Chuckled.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 10, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice "Are You Afraid of the Dark?" reference

every now and then, I’ll watch an old episode of that show on youtube. It’s so bad watching it now. I loved that show when I was a kid.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

FESPN

why does this josh guy still have a job? he can’t pronounce “Ankiel”. like he’s never heard of him before.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

If you're outside of st. Louis

I don’t see why that’s not possible. Esp. if you boycott ESPN on the 2 or 3 days they gushed on him.

by sdrone on Mar 9, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

he works for ESPN.

there are approximately three Cardinals players ESPN knows at a time. maybe four. Ankiel is one of the only storylines they rehash. They don’t even rehash Albert’s.

Josh has been the morning anchor for, what, a year? and his only contribution seems to be being a *. at times he makes Schaap look good.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm trying to enjoy the female anchors' work

and I can’t even do that. If there was a way to close-caption and pixelate him, I would.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Is Kornheiser going to get in trouble again,

or no school girl skirts and go go boots this morning?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

it's a Sage Steele morning

but last time I saw Hannah, she looked undaunted.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

undaunted

i like that. i was surprised to find through that story how old she was.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

the topper was that he sounded like

the producer was trying to correct him, and he couldn’t get it right

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

But hockey isn't really a fair

unless you are a master of languages.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you talking aboot buddy?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Hockey isn't that bad

The names are distinctive enough to actually memorize. Sergei/Andre Kostitsyn are the ones I can’t get for the life of me. That first T just throws me off.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 9, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It's more a problem

of reading it the first time through…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what is worse

messing up names like what happens time to time… or over pronouncing them like Miller does on Sunday Nite games.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

over pronounce, clearly

I mean, it works so well when Fred Armisen over-enunciates during his Obama impression on SNL, and it’s the entire comedic basis of an 8 minute sketch. That time just flies by. Comedy gold!

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

So I can only assume you see pro wrestling as the 4th?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 10, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

how did he pronounce it?

An-kyle? Ahn-kiel?

I mean, I can’t even figure out another logically way to say his name. If you speak English it shouldn’t be hard.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Pronounced "Mendoza"

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

spelled TIM.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

it is pronounced like the Opera House and former Auditorium, right?

or have I been pronouncing Rick’s name wrong all these years?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's spelt Raymond Luxury Yacht

but it’s pronounced Throatwobbler Mangrove.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 9, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions  

that almost sounds like thespian

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

awww.

whither the Astros

Oh that’s original.
They play in the same division as the Reds and Cardinals… way to pick a color that sticks out.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 10:55 AM EST reply actions  

I miss the White Sox collars and shorts

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if they put the keg in Center Field, too?

Every time I see this photo, all I think of is Class D Softball.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Keg's in the dugout.

Smoker with a full rack of ribs is in Left-Center

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean, B Veeck was behind those unis, right?

Beer and ribs isn’t that far of a stretch.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Dammit, now I want beer and ribs.

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

As it's after noon here...I've already solved the beer problem.

…also whilst listening to “Beer” by RBF.

Now….on to the Ribs.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll spare you...

….your friends and family, however…..

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Was prerusing stats.

Can anyone explain to me how Stav’s OBP is lower than his BA? I’m sure it’s some really easy explanation that will make me look stupid, but I can’t figure it out.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 9, 2010 10:57 AM EST reply actions  

What stats are you looking at?

Career: BA: .215 / OBP: .232

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Mar 9, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

More sac flies/sac bunts/reached on errors than walks/HBP will do it.

But I’ve not looked to see if he meets those criteria. There are probably other ways to get there, too.

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait, do sac's...

…count against your OBP? Maybe it’s just errors > than walks/HBP

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok, refreshed my recollection.

Sac flies DO count against your OBP.
Sac bunts DO NOT count against OBP.

So, if you have more sac flies and reached on errors than you do BB and HBPs, your OBP will be lower than your BA.

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

sac bunt

is a PA so it ‘counts against’ your OBP just as much as a sac fly

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 9, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

No, it doesn't.

The justification is that the sac bunt is a “conscious decision” made by the hitter to give himself up whereas a sac fly is just a “failed” attempt at a hit. Why that’s supposed to be a meaningful distinction, I have no idea, but that’s how the official scoring system currently works.

(Am searching for a citation for the above right now. Will gladly post an apology if I turn out to be wrong.)

I was, however, still wrong. Errors would actually BOOST your obp, not drop it.

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It's pretty black and white actually

Doesn’t matter what the intent was, a sacrifice bunt has to move the runner and a sacrifice fly has to score a run.

You don’t get a sac fly notation for flying out to right field with a runner on second and moving him to third. If he pulls a Bryce Harper and SCORES from second then you get a sac fly.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 9, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

heeyyyyy

why not call it pulling a Colby? Rasmus was the one that did that last year on a deep Pujols drive, iirc.

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

because Colby does so many things

he’s got a lot of memes associated with him, esp. for a rookie

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

But wasn't there a collision in the OF?

Or dude laid out for or or something?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

From wikipedia, for what it's worth.

A successful sacrifice bunt does not count as an at bat and, unlike a sacrifice fly, does not count during the calculation of on base percentage. However, if the official scorer believes that the batter was attempting to bunt for a base hit, and not solely to advance the runners, he is not credited with a sacrifice bunt and is charged an at bat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacrifice_bunt

(Am currently looking for a BETTER citation, as I hate citing to wikipedia. )

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

The calculation I keeping finding for OBP...

…is as follows

On Base Percentage = (Hits + Walks + Hit By Pitch)/(At Bats + Walks + Hit By Pitch + Sacrifice Flies)

Note that the final element is “Sacrifice Flies”, not “Sacrifices”

MLB Official rule 10.08 regards sacrifices. It explicitly recognized two categories:
1) Sacrifice Bunts, the subject of Rule 10.08(a), (b) and ©, and ;
2) Sacrifice Flies, the subject of Rule 10.08(d).

Thus, by operation of the rule, MLB officialy recognizes two distinct categories of Sacrifice – the Sac Bunt and the Sac Fly.

The calculations include Sac Flies only – those who drafted the calculations had access to MLB Rule 10.08, and so were aware of the distinction betwen Sac Flies and Sac Bunts, and thus would have inclucded Sac Bunts into the equation had they desired Sac Bunts to impact OBP.

Or so goes my argument, anyway. Not that anyone cares, at this point.

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

a rec for due diligence

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Mar 9, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to guess that this only applies at the major league level

I know for a fact that this isn’t done at the high school and college levels, as I’ve played, coached, and umpired for them in the past.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 9, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

For what it's worth...

…I think your way makes more sense.

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

thats what I was going off of as well

why make a distinction between the 2? It makes no sense.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 9, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

sure it does

a sac bunt is intentionally making an out, and so shouldn’t count against you for following orders. a sac fly is a failed attempt to reach base.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

A failed attempt to reach base?

You’re telling me that with a runner on third and less than two outs, the hitter at the plate ISN’T trying to put the ball in air to the outfield? His only job is to get that run home in any way possible, just like the job of the sac bunter is to get the runner over any way possible. If he does his job and gets the runner home, then he shouldn’t be punished for doing his job. Similarly, hitting behind a runner on second with 2 strikes and nobody out should also be viewed as “doing your job”. It’s just harder to measure the intent: “Did he mean to hit the ball to the right side to move the runner? Or did he just hit the ball where it was pitched and was trying for a hit?”

It’s much harder to measure that intent, sure, but that leads me to believe that you shouldn’t try to measure intent at all and just keep things as black and white as possible. The fewer judgment calls the better. We shouldn’t be delineating between which is a true “sacrifice” and which isn’t. They’re all sacrifices under the rules of the game.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

this is not my opinion

this is how it is viewed. and yes, it’s all about intent. that’s why the rules allow if the scorer believes the bunter was going for a hit, he is not credited a sac bunt. but this is much easier to judge than the intent of the batter on the sac fly, and so it is common-sensically assumed the batter (and team) would prefer a hit to an out – in other words, there could be a better outcome when you swing the bat (than a sac fly), whereas a sac bunt, if successful, is the best possible outcome.

i liken the assumption made on the sac fly to this: when attempting to turn a double play, the fielder is not charged an error on an errant throw to first (so long as the batter doesn’t get an extra base) because you cannot assume the double play.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No difference between a sac fly and a sac bunt

They’re still a sacrifice. Either way you’re making an out on a PA. They don’t hurt your batting average because they don’t count as an AB, just like walks and HBP’s don’t count against your AB’s.

so if you have 4 plate appearances with one hit, one sac fly, and two ground outs:

BA: 1 for 3 (AB) = .333
OBP: 1 for 4 (PA) = .250

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 9, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad. Bad 'splaining.

His spring stats so far this year show a BA of .357 and an OBP of .333.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 9, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Four plate appearances.

One hit, one sac fly, two strikeouts.

3 official ABs. One hit in 3 at bats = .333 avg.

Once on base in four PAs= .250 OBP.

On-base percentage is calculated using plate appearances, whereas batting average is calculated using only at-bats.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 9, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

'Doh!

I knew it was something that I should have known. Thanks RB.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 9, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Welcome.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 9, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i can never keep that straight, which is why i use

Simple stats like wOBA and FIP.

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by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 11:20 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   3 recs

does it count against your OBP

if you get caught trying to stretch a single into a double?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 9, 2010 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

Nope, that's a single...

…and a Thurston. Which is another way of saying a baserunning error.

by dronemc on Mar 9, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

pretty quiet so far

http://twitpic.com/17jkx4

JohnMarecek Robert Stock is in one cage, Albert Pujols in another. Stock seems to have 1 eye on tee and another on Albert. #stlcards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meAG67O0me4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-rtVhyytG4

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"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

I have a small crush on John Marecek.

Just going to admit that.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Small crush?! Go big or go home.

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it's a Twitter crush. SO I don't know how big those can be.

But it is a BIG Twitter crush.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Except midgets.

…they’re still pretty small.

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, but they also got their

internet 8 inches.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

So by comparison, the regulation 8" looks like a yardstick?

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Peter Dragon

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 9, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

he's working it, CG

JohnMarecek I wonder if Shelby Miller’s dad coming to town tomorrow had anything to do with him not pitching today? Hope we see him tomorrow. #stlcards 19 minutes ago via Tweetie

JohnMarecek Listened to today’s #stlcards game via #twins broadcast. May have been the most uninformed tandem I have ever heard. Tough listen. 21 minutes ago via Tweetie

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony's done that for years

Barden’s ABs in Houston, for one

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

no, wait, maybe it's not Barden

it’s one of the younger guys

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

it is spring training afterall

If you are going to do it why not do it during spring training.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 9, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't buy that

tony said different yesterday, iirc

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I tweeted to him and got a response

@JohnMarecek I dunno, they seemed pretty knowledgeable. They had excellent insight on Shoe-mayker, Stavino, and Molino. And kayaking, too.

@mojowo11 I also learned that Ryan Franklin may have pitched for SEA. Ran into someone with the club who couldn’t believe how bad it was

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

they were later found disheveled and with their luggage askew

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

moar

JohnMarecek In 7 PM hour of Sportsnight on @thebig550 & KTRS.com, hear my interviews w/ Albert Pujols & Colby Rasmus. #stlcards $cardinals

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, no wonder it's 22 hours

Brownwood, TX (google maps)

they might not even make it tomorrow.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

He's currently hanging out with Red Sox fans.

Who drink their beers with Red Sox koozies.
Okay not really hanging out. He’s just surrounded. The Axe (Douchiest “colgne”(body spray) I could think of) smell must be suffocating.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Can't escape the middle school stigma.

I literally stop breathing when I smell it.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Double Pits to Chesty!

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 10, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Does anyone know more about the all-time minor league home run king

Hector Espino? Seems like an interesting story. The Cardinals signed him even but he never played past AAA for some reason.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 9, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

the quality is terrible.

at least its baseball.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The current announcer is horrid too.

I thought at first he might be one of those “win a contest from LocalGrocer and announce an inning at Spring Training” kind of things, but looks like the Twins are paying him.

Mispronunciations… Joel (one syllable) Pin-air-oh, Skip Shoe Maker (over and over and over), and left fielder Nick Staveeno. Admittedly, Stavinoha is but a prospect -but unless they mispelled it on the press sheet, even pronouncing it phonetically would get you close enough.

I can’t wait to get back to Cards announcers so I can hear Shannon talk about Greg Mad Ox.

And speaking of Shannon, don’t know if anyone else listened, but he used the first spring broadcast to bitch about sunglasses. Yay spring!

Baseball Fever....WPS!

by skcabrozar on Mar 9, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 9, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

heh heh hunh?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 9, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Shannon

dislikes (actually, “hates” would be closer) Oakley’s and feels that all players should be forced to wear the flip-down sunglasses for balls in the sun.

Baseball Fever....WPS!

by skcabrozar on Mar 11, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh my gosh.

So does Rick Manning, the Indians’ announcer! I wonder what it is about their generation (I think they’re of similar age).

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 11, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i think there's a gap in age there

seems like it should be 10-15 yrs but not positive. every old retired player thinks they played the game the right way and that current players don’t.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 11, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah Manning was 70's.

Shannon was 60’s.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 11, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I can only assume

that it has something to do with flip downs going hand in hand with proper lawn maintenance.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 12, 2010 5:35 AM EST up reply actions  

i guess that's it

thanks for clearing it up, ducttape.

btw, how’d that thing with moocow ever work out?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 12, 2010 5:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Whee! Game on!

Starts with an infield hit by Skippy, who dives safely into first! I wonder if they’ve just given up on trying to break him of that habit.

by BTown Birds fan on Mar 9, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

the only successful way

they will ever break him of it is to wait for him to rip up his rotator cuff and/or labrum and as he lays crying in the dirt send out Weinberg to say, “See, we told you it was stupid.” And then walk away without touching him.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 9, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Show him tape of Alex Gordon

breaking his thumb until he starts sobbing uncontrollably into his blanky.

by stlfan on Mar 9, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol

At least in Rookie of the Year, the kid threw the unhittable “underhand throw”….That has got to be the worst baseball movie I have ever seen btw.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 9, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

it's so unrealistic

no way do the cubs win the world series

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>

by tgreenfield on Mar 9, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

it kind of makes sense.

like, the only way the Cubs can win the world series is if we live in the kind of world where a 12 year-old kid can be a professional baseball player.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So it's a metaphor? AHHHHHH!

Brilliant!

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 9, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I alway thought it was mocking the cubs, I mean the fans in the beginning were a bunch of drunks.

And why didn’t they pull him once his arm was hurt?, I doubt a position player would not have been any worse than the kid.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to break my arm and learn to throw 100MPH

HUZZAH!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

hello

Billy Wagner

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Mar 9, 2010 5:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone else wrote up a funny diatribe of this on another baseball forum I post on

I’ll spare you a full length, but here’s his points about why those fictional Cubs are the worst franchise in sports history:

  • Their pitching coach is quite literally mentally retarded. Of all of the major league quality options out there, they choose a retard.
  • The owner has Alzheimer’s and thinks it’s 1950. He is somehow cleared to run the club’s operations.
  • The team relies on a crappy 50 year old pitcher who apparently starts every single game. This seems unwise.
  • The GM seems awful at picking players, true (see previous bullet)…but he’s not demoted — to hot dog vendor? — until he’s caught trying to sell a 12-year-old reliever to the Yankees. Seems like a smart move to me. Sell high, man.
  • They see the 12-year-old kid throw a rocket out of the stadium. What the heck, forget about grooming him, developing some pitches, seasoning him in the minors. Let’s sign him straight to the major league team!
  • The 12-year-old kid is asked to retire the heart of the Mets order in his first appearance, a save situation.
  • The kid gets blown up in his first appearance, but he’s asked to do the same thing the next day. Seems a bit tough.
  • After two (miraculous) consecutive saves, the announcer says that the Cubs have now reached their longest winning streak of the season: two games. It’s the middle of August, and they just now have their first winning streak? (Apparently the rest of their division is also run by a bunch of mental midgets and/or killed in a plane crash, because by the beginning of September they’re somehow three games behind the Mets for the division lead. And to think, all they needed was a 12-year-old closer to turn it around.)
  • “The Cubs end up facing the Mets in the regular season finale, where they apparently can’t decide if the winner goes to the NLCS or the World Series. They trust the kid, who is now dominating, to get the save once again. However, he slips and loses his powers, and in warm-ups it’s very clear that he throws like a kid again. However, apparently no one else on the Cubs notices, especially after he ****ing tells them that he’s lost his touch, and they keep him out there without the manager even paying a visit to the mound. They even trust him against Ken Caminiti, or whoever the roided up monster is (apparently the Cubs manager doesn’t even know the Mets’ lineup, since he gasps once Dennis Roidman steps up to the plate). The kid somehow gets three outs and the Cubs win the division with a record of around 40-122. Afterwards, they inexplicably win the World Series without two of their best pitchers. "

Over-analyzing frivolous sports movies is the best.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions   5 recs

it's an excellent study of how cubs fans think

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

also the movie completely looks passed the draft and signs him.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

/commence nerdy voice

“well, according to my count adjusted run values (/fixes glasses), a fastball in the middle .667 square feet of the plate on an 0-2 count allows 3.76 runs per 100 pitches more than average. In other words, it’s like the difference between Tim Lincecum and Todd Wellemeyer.

/end nerd voice

by vivaelpujols on Mar 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do they keep saying

a) that Boog won’t be ready for the start of the year; and
b) that the Cardinals didn’t know about his surgery?

I don’t think either of these things is true. Right?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

we will know when he is ready to play

when he is actually out there playing. i dont buy into the ‘oh look he is ahead of schedule’

by FunkeeC on Mar 9, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I, too, have learned my lesson

“Progressing nicely” means absolutely nothing.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

flagged

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you can't flag me, do you know who I am?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i can impound your batmobile

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

what's the name of that bar again?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 9, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

He's ahead of schedule and will return by the--oh who are we kidding at this point, really

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

sigh..... what has happened to our fellow VEBer GDM?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He might be back, he might not.....

but he is ok.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

proof?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

you don't say? how much does it cost?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

6ly?, what a steal

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

payable to RiverRat

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I pay with gifs

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You trying to bait him out of hiding?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

quiet, it won't work if he knows it's a trap.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah crap...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

email?!!!

next, you’ll be telling me there’s some magical series of tubes somewhere on which I can find all kinds of information, just by sitting in front of a screen

Take that, Winter!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 9, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

MLB.tv subscribers

Strasburg is pitching against the Tigers, if you care to tune in.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:10 PM EST reply actions  

By the way

Chris Duncan is playing first base for the Nationals.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

intriiiiiguing

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Bankin' on an 0-3 day.

1K, 1 foul pop-out, 1 GIDP

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Also in the lineup for the Nationals

Adam Kennedy at 2B!

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Great idea Washington

Build your team as the 2007 Cardinals. That team was great! Aaron Miles for SS!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Today the Nationals played Adam Kennedy at 2B

While they started their top SS prospect, Ian Desmond, in right field.

Oh you silly Natinals.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Jocketty did

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Touche

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

it's bizarre that the Cards must constantly play their doppelgangers

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

walt has a 2005 copy of sports illustrated sitting in the lobby of his office that he reads on the can.

/explains it all.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't they sign Marquis as well?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

well

hopefully he can start hitting again because he’s finally at the right position

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

the American League is too American for him

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

not even in Toronto?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

touche, but

Toronto already has Lind and Wallace (and probably another DH type). I don’t see him ending up there.

i wonder if the new Toronto GM also thinks dunn hates baseball?

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Mar 9, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

They're probably

just shopping him to the Giants for Tim Lincecum.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 9, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i thought we pretty much had timmy wrapped up

you telling me the gotay deal fell through?

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by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

no timmy - in that case, have to come with some cash too

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

The Strasburg era has begun

Three up, three down in the first, but no strikeouts (all groundouts).

by BTown Birds fan on Mar 9, 2010 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Just made Miguel Cabrera

Look quite bad. Had him buckling on a dirty slider and then blew a fastball by him for the K.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Stick a fork in him; he's done.

…Kelly poked it oppo for a base knock.
Game over, kids, game over.

*note 2nd line of sig

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Another hit!

Grounder up the middle. This guy sucks.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

DFA!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

zomg 3-2 slider for the K

That was nasty.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Three pitches

And one of them is 100 mph. Sign me up.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 9, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Future Dave Duncan reclamation project

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a Strasburg mancrush

I made sure to re-up on MLB.tv to see that and the next inning. (and maybe the next if he only takes 7 pitches again)

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 9, 2010 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

lol, Strasburg is older than Porcello...

….yet Porcello’s held his own in the Bigs, and Strasburg’s untested.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

the cuban lefty will give him a run

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I soooo disagree

He’s a 1.5 pitch guy with bad control. He didn’t dominate the Cuban league…

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

well, why don't we give the kid a year in the minors to develop

before we brand him a 1.5 pitch marmol. after all, scouts who have seen him throw in the last weeks are very impressed, and some have said he should be #2 already on any prospect lists, and closing fast. after all, we have no idea of what his situation was in cuba, psychologically, especially considering he got caught trying to defect the first time.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Waino

Let’s hope he’s fucking around

by cardfan124 on Mar 9, 2010 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

Experimenting with a knuckleball?

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Baby Dunc grounds out to second on a big bouncer.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 1:30 PM EST reply actions  

Adam Kennedy also grounded out to second

Deja vu, baby.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

In play run(s)

Boooooo

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Oh Joe Mather.

L♡VE.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep it in the pants, CG

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

If this continues

I think I know what my next T-shirt will be.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

/unfamiliar with the concept

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Exhibitionism much?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Of pants?

Me too.

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You like skirts too huh?

They are quite comfortable.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I am an absolute sucker

for a cute girl in a skirt.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 9, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much everyone is.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Aren't most guys an absolute sucker for a cute girl period?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a very good point

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I am proud to say

That as an American, I like cute girls, food that tastes good, and activities that are enjoyable.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

true fact: for most guys, especially internet beta males, modestly cute, a little cute or even just has cute friends may suffice.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I've found if she has one nice leg

I am satisfied

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

one unswollen ankle's enough for me

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

FYP

I’ve found if she has one nice leg I am satisfied

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's sixteen dollars.

It’s all I have. Run home and bury it in the yard.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 9, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Or, alternately:

Huh. Do you know I can’t find a single picture online of the Dr. Strangelove character from The Tick? This sucks. Ah, fuck it.
Bring him to the pants!

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 9, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Skip with an RBI!

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

That woulda been a base knock if CDunc was in LF.

….#EasyPopUp #AmstelTijgersVsWarshingtinNatinals

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

Birds back on top, 3-2

This has not exactly been a speedy game so far

by BTown Birds fan on Mar 9, 2010 1:39 PM EST reply actions  

watching Tigers-Natinals on MLB network

Rob Dibble is a huge homer…what an ass

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Also watching.

This Rick Porcello kid is pretty good. Anyone ever heard of him?

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 9, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

its funny

this is all i see

This _ ________ kid is pretty good. Anyone ever heard of him?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

What have i missed with regard to Porcello??

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

he should be ours!!!!

instead, we took a russian astronaut

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

if you were being sarcastic vex

then i missed it…sorry

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wasn't. I had no idea

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

/twists knife

Cards didn’t think they could sign Porcello, so they passed on him and signed one P. Kozma.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

....ouch.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

what does pineiro

have to do with the kozma/porcello situation?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Nothing, technically.

However, it’s a valid point when looking at the overall utilisation of resources to look at what the team is willing to pay for career mediocity vs. taking a risk on something which could pay off huge in the long run.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 10, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

The Cardinals essentially decided Porcello was too expensive for them at 7.3M

And then turned right around within the same year and signed Pineiro for 2/13M.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Kozma is not a Russian astronaut

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

major koz to ground control . . .

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I am ticked off at myself for never catching that before now

the kid has to make the majors now, he already has the awesome nicky

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

In Soviet Russia

Wife tells you,/i> she loves you very much

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Shit

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ashes to ashes, funk to funky

Major Koz’s swing is junky

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 9, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

sequels usually suck

this is no different

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i prefer Part Deuxs

Part Deauxes? Part Deauxesesses? Ah, screw it.

Take that, Winter!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 9, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Part Ducks's

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Nyjer Morgan is speedy...

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, plus high-socks and baggy knickers.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

he's an underrated player

he OBPed at .369 last season…i’d love it if he were our second baseman

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

well

obviously, we’d teach him to throw RH

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

anybody

can learn to throw right handed

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 9, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It would make a 4-6-3 DP easier actually

But that’s the only case where it helps (I guess if he ever threw to 3rd it would be beneficial as well)

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Only if he's going to his right. . .

on a ball in the hole between 1st and 2nd, not so much.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 9, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

: (

Wagon maker struggling

by cardfan124 on Mar 9, 2010 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

looking bad?

or just getting hit?

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Who knows what his game plan was...

but some real solid contact being made off him as well as some issues with his command.

by cardfan124 on Mar 9, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

sell it colby!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

So, um, is Wainwright okay?

Maybe he’s just experimenting like pitchers sometimes do?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

I wouldn't worry too much

he had a pretty unremarkable March/April last year, then hit his stride big time. I’m sure he’ll click.

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I try not to.

Because ST doesn’t mean a lot especially for pitchers in my experience. Unless they are in a competition for a spot I think they tend to take it easy and just loosen up.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

he was so unremarkable i freaking dropped him in my fantasy league in april

i thought he was still injured and the cardinals weren’t being honest about it…. now where would I get an idea like that?

kicked myself for the rest of the season.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

if he is still pitching like this in May

you should start worrying

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

oofda

as they say in my homestate of minnesota

BJRains
  
49 pitches for Wainwright….he is likely done…..4 runs, 5 hits, in two innings…

oof-da indeed

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Mar 9, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

yay...i love when interviews take priority over calling the game

especially when it’s something completely unrelated to baseball.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:00 PM EST reply actions  

Maybe he got too frustrated trying to say

names like Descalso, “Screw it lets talk about gators until this side is retired”

by GasHouseMang on Mar 9, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

Chapman hit 100mph yesterday, supposedly
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Aroldis-Chapman-hits-100-mph-strikes-out-three-?urn=mlb,226703

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

he has one pitch

one!!! ESPN acting like he is the second coming

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

So do Reds fans....

….it’s like he’s their savior…but he won’t see the Bigs til September MAYBE…

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

and if he doesnt find a consistent second offereing

he will be crushed

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

see: Motte opening day last year

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

or kyle farnsworth circa: life

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

see:derrick turnbow...actually don't "see" cause he's fucking ugly.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he looks cool

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Colby and Boggs' love child

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

so I have to send Shannon in to talk to him, if I want to understand what he's saying?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

heh heh heh

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

omg, turnbow's wiki page flat said he had an

“Rick Ankiel-esque loss of command and control”

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

does that mean he's a spotty hitting center fielder now?

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He's got a decent looping slider that if he tightens up will be good

But I’m still sticking to my Matt Thornton comp from seeing some Cuban league stuff.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 9, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

yea i have heard that it just a very inconsistent pitch

still rather have liriano

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Consistent enough to strike out Rick Ankiel apparently.

(That doesn’t necessarily mean much, though.)

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 9, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

One pitch?

I think Joe Posnanski said he has 4. Or maybe he quoted someone in his article.

by sdrone on Mar 9, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

It won't matter

once dusty get ahold of ’em.

by Oedipa Maas on Mar 9, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

From what I saw in actual game footage

He throws FB, a slider that he throws really loopy and also just loopy and a crappy changeup.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 9, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

he throws three

but only one is a plus pitch…the other are raw and below average

I have no doubt he has the potential to be a great pitcher, but one two inning outing does not an ace make, as ESPN would have you believe

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe one is a change up.

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

throws two different sliders

according to chris getz. and ask ankiel about his slider, while you’re at it. or joe posnanski.

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by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

well, that's inarguable

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 2:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Gameday sucks. What's going on?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Two-out rally

done fizzled.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

this game is on gameday?

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by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yuuup

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Denard Span

just prevented 2 cardinal runs with a diving catch off descalso

by _pistol_ on Mar 9, 2010 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

i donno...i zoned out after all the kayaking nonsense.

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by rocKStark5 on Mar 9, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we have a new nickname

Superstar

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

honorary hpgf member

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 9, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

jj hardy for carlos gomez = most lopsided trade of season?

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by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 2:22 PM EST reply actions  

1M base + incentives, actually

Mo really reamed the GM of the free agent market on that one.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I still like having the red sox pay for Lugo's big contract

while taking Dunc Jr off our hands

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Salas for Cy Young!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

he's better than cy young

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

lol salsa

Tostitos or Pace Picante?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

New York City?!?!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you; I was hoping that'd be the response

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

haha! smooth home run!

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by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

Let's go!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

nick "stavino" as PR - mind blown.

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by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

ahahahaaha

Nick Stavino!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

@FakeMikeShannon
It looks like it might start raining. We might need to find some ambidextrous players so we can play in the wet stuff. heh heh heh #stlcards

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

O/T

I’m not against some form of realignment in baseball, if there’s something that makes sense. But this is not it, for many reasons (not the least of which being, any team that voluntarily moves into a more difficult division has basically just given its fans a giant middle finger for a full season).

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by splhcb67 on Mar 9, 2010 2:43 PM EST reply actions  

*facepalm*

I can’t believe that’s even under consideration

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a fucking stupid idea.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

what you'd end up with would be teams like florida or washington just selling out their teams to

play high-rent games against the yankees, draw in folks who want to see derek jeter or cc sabathia or whatever and create a low-tier system, like the ncaa where the major teams go and play east technical state so that east technical state can make $600,000 for the honor of being beaten 87-0.

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by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather just have no division at all than that

and then have the best 4 teams from each league duke it out

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

That’s not that terrible of an idea. Well, besides the inherent scheduling/travel problems that would result from a balanced schedule…which we had until not all that long ago. Hmm.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
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by splhcb67 on Mar 9, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I miss the balance

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I think this idea is way dumber than the usual fan ideas for switching around leagues and divisions. The fact that this is seriously being talked about by MLB is kind of worrisome, not that this particular idea will ever be implemented.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 9, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope not

because something like that would be just about the only thing for me to stop liking baseball. it would take away any continuity

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

No kidding.

If this thing passes, what’s next? The All-Star game determining home field advantage!!??!? The World Series in November?!!

Take that, Winter!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 9, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The center cannot hold!!!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 9, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That wouldn't be so bad...

…if the park was either Tiger Stadium or Crosley Field.

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by splhcb67 on Mar 9, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

you're fucking kidding me

Well…time to quit the job and start hunting down Bud Selig if that happens

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, and please don't disregard the profanity

it is absolutely necessary in this case

/IHB’d

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I like my no divisions/balanced schedule idea best

heh heh heh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a no division league would be awesome

16 teams in the NL, right?
So play each team in the NL 9 times and that leaves 27 interleague games?
That would be a fun schedule to figure out.

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

well this may just be zealous self-interest talking

but we’re set up very well over the next few years in the Central, let’s just keep it like it is for now, mmmmkay?

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

Hey Bud, I have a freakin’ great idea!

Start playoff games so that they end before mid-freakin-night
Figure out that maybe all of America does not have a stiffy for the Yanks and Red Sox
Don’t even think about going ALL DH, because I will hunt you down

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

say, I was wondering...

what do y’all think about more doubleheaders?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, and I'd like it even more if you could pay double for the cheap seats

and stay there for both games… there’d be a lot of ways to milk more revenue out of it even while offering discounts

surely their futuristic bar codes can handle that.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

whoooo!!!!

are you saying no 7th inning beer cutoff?

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

oh my GOB

brilliant!!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

hell yes

especially if we get to have a 7 game wild card round

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

+10000

eliminates the problem of playing in crappy November weather. not that I want the season to be shorter, but it’s sort of ridiculous when a playoff game gets postponed for coldness.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

it’s a summer sport, duh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

me likey as well

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's a good idea...

Right now, basically no team other than the Yankees or Red Sox have a chance in the AL East. How is it fun for fans of any team there?

On the flip side, the Cardinals have prospered because they are in the worst division in baseball. Which unfortunately, quickly gets exposed come play off time.

Since I mostly enjoy baseball for the regular season, I would love to see the Cardinals play someone instead of the hapless Pirates. Okay, any given year, 2 out of the four usual chumps (Reds, Brewers, Astros, Cubs) aren’t bad. But some real competition would be nice. I miss the days of the 80s when the Cardinals went up against the Mets. It really meant something to beat them.

The way it is now, the Cardinals should win the division almost automatically, give the poor quality of the division, and if they don’t, it’s more the Cardinals fault than what any other team did. And I don’t think that’s fun in the long run.

by DiscoJer on Mar 9, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Right now, basically no team other than the Yankees or Red Sox have a chance in the AL East

So you move the Indians? Have you seen the Indians? They’re terrible! Not helpful at all. It is possible I missed the part where someone else moves to the East or the Yankees/Red Sox move out of it (which would be odd geographically) because I saw the Indians move to the AL East and started hyperventilating.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

nl central bad inherently?

chicago bigger city than st louis, so is houston
pittsburgh and cincinnati about the same
if any of those teams were to have adequate management, cards would have plenty of competition
no one will ever really be able to match revenue with the yanks

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by sportsman on Mar 9, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume you were referring to disco's comment.

Because I didn’t say that. I agree with you. The NL Central could be competitive with the right management of the teams.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Or the article itself.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

those teams have really dumb management… lucky for us!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Please don't do this to me!

We’ll never win! Seriously tears of frustration are close to falling and literal facepalm.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

did you say facepalm?

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Brushie brushie brushie?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 10, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

just voted for the umpteenth time

how long does this go on?

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by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Beats me...I'm on the verge of emailing the webmaster....or I could call him.

….whois is a wonderful thing.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 10, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Dammit! He re-registered it and kept his info private this time.

I used to know the ph# and address of the webmaster.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 10, 2010 2:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait.....found it again. Thanks, domaintools

whois.net is worthless!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 10, 2010 2:45 AM EST up reply actions  

WTF?

how about instead we put in a salary min.

by Evilfrog on Mar 9, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree.

MLB has gone on and on about how revenue sharing has worked. Aren’t they contradicting themselves by considering this nonsense?

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 9, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If I make it through the entire Bud Selig era with any hair left

it will be a miracle

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

the Twins guys are pronouncing everyone's names wrong.

Shoe-mayker.

Stavino.

Molino.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 2:49 PM EST reply actions  

well

they are practically canadian, so…

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I got it

they heard about Nathan
and started drinking early

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

nice sleuthing

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you

wild conjecture it’s what I do

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

good inning, other adam.

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by tom s. on Mar 9, 2010 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

Every Pirates and Royals fan

just looked at that lineup…

….then looked at the projected lineup for their team….

….then lit themselves on fire.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 9, 2010 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

bwahahahahahaha!

exactly

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe Pirates fans need to stage a mass self-immolation to get their front office's attention

That whole “walk-out” didn’t even register a blip

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by jd is legend on Mar 9, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Bucco Demolition Night?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Thing is

I think the Pirates organization is in far better shape. They have a better farm system, a MUCH better front office, and some good talent at the major league level that is cost controlled.

The Royals organization doesn’t have any of those things. They have one of the best ballparks in the fucking big leagues to watch a game in (I love going to Kaufmann — my best friend from HS hates baseball and most all sports, but we always make a trip to Kaufmann when I’m there over the summer. Tickets are usually free because the Royals suck) and they have a glorified AAA team (+ Greinke and Butler) playing in it. It’s sad.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 9, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

they do have Rick Ankiel though

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

hey

what’d I miss

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

You're missing the Treasure Island Baseball Network.

And interviews about kayaking, and broadcasters who know almost nothing about the ’birds.

by mattisnotfrench on Mar 9, 2010 3:01 PM EST reply actions  

excellent.

I think I’ll eat a twinkie.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Batter and fry that SOB,

you’ll thank me later.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

of course

I’ve been to many a state fair.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

And then wrap the whole durn thing in bacon.

/obligatory

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Mar 9, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Goold is funny

he’s also stealing our material

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

Dig the Kevin Ool reference

He would’ve made a legendary loogy.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 9, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

someone admit it already

which one of you SOBs is really The Good Reporter?

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:44 PM EST up reply actions  

and Goold went all Shakespeare on some commenter's ass

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

no one, not even IHeart, can stalk Boog the way TGR does.

80% of the press clippings are written by Goold. so it can’t be one of us.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

what... what negativity?

 Ackerman1120 Pujols discusses his health, preparation. Gets into his contract status a little bit, and the negativity he’s heard on that topic. 15 minutes ago via UberTwitter

Like… J-O-E-S-T-R-A-U-S-S?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

link

www.kmox.com/cards

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that one interview from a week ago or so

where Albert is talking about what, does straus follow me into the shower to see if I’m fat?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Colby made that mistake

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

BBTN showed pretty much all of Strasburg

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

oneli perez...

 has the same genetic trait antonio alfonseca… look closely

by _pistol_ on Mar 9, 2010 3:36 PM EST reply actions  

anti-aliasing is your friend.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

That a 6th finger, there??

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Waino says it's all good.

"It’s a quick fix, really," Wainwright said moments ago in the Cardinals’ clubhouse. "It’s probably a good thing that I got lit up like I did today anyways. Today I really wasn’t really locked-in trying to make a pitch. I was just out there throwing."

Wainwright repeatedly said that his mental acuity drifted during the game.
link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

or out of the luggage rack

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

BBTN has that physical therapist re: Nathan

and she has an elbow on the table
and she’s mentioning Chris Carpenter BOOOOO.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

FESPN

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

elbows on the table - no good.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

it's an elbow made of bone. on a stick.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 10, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

mmmm....elbow on a stick.

Don’t they sell those at Renaissance fairs or something?

Take that, Winter!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 10, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Target Field

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 10, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

so long as it's edible

i guess there’s no breach of etiquette.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, now the Treasure Island Baseball Network is really showing their asses

Talking about McGwire ducking the media in Jupiter, when that is EXACTLY what he did not do. These guys suck.

Baseball Fever....WPS!

by skcabrozar on Mar 9, 2010 3:48 PM EST reply actions  

FTIBN

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

What's goin' on in the game???

Gameday still bleauxs.

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 3:50 PM EST reply actions  

7-6 twins

solo homer by danny valencia off the polydactyl pitcher

by _pistol_ on Mar 9, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Valencia hit a homerun

And we’ll burn this whole city down

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>

by tgreenfield on Mar 9, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

the Pirates were having their way with CC

heh heh heh

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions  

heh

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Torry Holt beggin' for a job.

you remember Wingo, Torry.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:03 PM EST reply actions  

F'n Freese

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 4:05 PM EST reply actions  

hey guys!

how’s the weather in Missouri?

79 and sunny here!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

It's actually 64 and partly sunny here in SW MO

though it’s supposed to rain this evening.

Take that, Winter!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 9, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

it was mid to high 50s here in Boston a couple days ago

I’m so used to jogging in the 20s I was almost afraid of having a heat stroke if I went out for a run

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

you know, its like 55 and raining in Phoenix.

it has been for the last week. WTF is going on around here?

Good thing I don’t have time to go to ST anyway…

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

60 and sunny out here in San Francisco

Just like always around this time of year. Except sometimes it’s 60 and rainy.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I woke up to fresh snow.....

you can all shove it.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Shitty.

Looking forward to having 81 Cardinals games a few miles from my house, though.

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 9, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Zing!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

They froze

freese, huh? …aaaand I swear that’s the only time I’ll use that this season

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

Looks like Mr Freese...

….got froze.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

is anyone else rather peeved with Greene and Freese?

for real, the extra E’s are not what we’re going for.

I hope the ghost of George Kissell kicks their butts.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

they got less time with him last year because of the WBC

now he’s here full time and they’re effing up? blasphemy.

luggage ’em.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Silent E is a Ninja

I learned that on Electric Company the other day.

by OCCardsFan on Mar 9, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a good point

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I will withhold my anger until later in ST

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 9, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

so it was leach

 MatthewHLeach Was just about to tweet how, overall, #stlcards had played the game well today, no major mistakes other than some rough pitching innings. 23 minutes ago via web

 MatthewHLeach Then, um, that happened. (David Freese picked off to end the game, for those not listening or following online) #stlcards 22 minutes ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:25 PM EST reply actions  

aaaahhh Torry Holt's finger

damn that Wingo for authorizing the closeup

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:29 PM EST reply actions  

No way at this rate Colby is going to hit 54 dingers,154 RBIs.

Can I say MVP?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

great, now he's going to starve to death

GOB-tempting this early is dangerous

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

MV3

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome.

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Fixed

GOB-tempting this early is dangerous

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 4:37 PM EST reply actions  

FSBN

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

in a way this makes sense

the big club is coming off a stinging avocado-flavored failboat.

the memphis boys are coming off a beer-soaked victory. they think they can do anything.

I hate to say this, but Tony needs to turn up the heat in this pan.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:41 PM EST reply actions  

I'm just hankerin' for a beat-down.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm on the beat-down train

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

f'in avocados.

VOTE FOR OPTION 2!!!!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 9, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

via mlbtraderumors
John Smoltz and Pedro Martinez will likely eventually sign with National League clubs, writes Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports. He names the Cardinals, Phillies, Cubs, and Dodgers as potential players for the two veteran right-handers

I know we all want smoltz, but anyone willing to give Pedro a try if smoltz signs somewhere else?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 4:47 PM EST reply actions  

no.

I just feel like Pedro doesn’t have the same intangibles to offer as smoltzie does.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i just don't like him.

I don’t like his personality. Although I do think he has something left in the tank. But I’d rather not see him as a Cardinal.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 9, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Smoltz or Pedro are essentially the same player at this point

I just hope one of our young guys does well enough that we don’t have to worry about that

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

sure

if there’s a need

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I like the fakemikeshannon thing on twitter

but they could do it better… study shannonisms better. and he would never call mcgee ugly I don’t think

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

this site gets off to a good start

“Swing and a homerun, but it’s foul”
http://alwaysintransit.typepad.com/baseball/2006/01/shannonisms_mik.html

or these:

"The Ozarks are a beautiful place this time of year, with all the animals scurrying around, trying to add to their heritage……"

"The wind has switched 360 degrees"

“Like Spring makes the rains come, so does the edge of the plate grow.”

“The Dodgers are ahead by 5 runs or 3 runs or in between there somewhere”

As Albert Pujols stepped up to the plate, Shannon says “I know what’s wrong here…I forgot to get the lucky peanut out!” So he pulls the peanut out of his pocket and sets it out on the table. Within 10 seconds, Albert homered to give the cardinals the lead and Shannon proclaimed, “The lucky peanut does it again!!!”

‘‘Even the standing-room only seats have been sold.’’

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

eh

maybe he would (but it would be on accident somehow)

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I've noticed it's missing hoo boy

which is either my favorite mike shannon particle or the mike shannon particle I have imagined

by DanUpBaby on Mar 10, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I seem to remember him saying that a lot!

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Official Sighting of Pujols

At my hotel here in Spring Training today.

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Mar 9, 2010 9:23 PM EST reply actions  

just a sighting?

no autograph?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 10, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Not an autograph guy.

In the past my experiences with “stars” has not been good. They are people and mostly asses just like us. I don’t do autographs or photos. Something wrong with a 40 year old with a binder trying to get a signature.

He was sitting with about 5 other guys and he was wearing a Cards hat. I walked by and they looked at my Cards shirt and looked up at me waiting to see if I was going to come over. I walked on by and came back through 3 minutes later and Pujols was shaking hands with a group on teenage kids.

If anyone is planning a trip down here for ST, I can recommend a good hotel and some tips.

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Mar 10, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

exactly

but…trick or treating too?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 12, 2010 5:51 AM EST up reply actions  

lots of audio goodies here

http://ktrs.com/spring/?page_id=2

12 minute colby interview – “it’s a long season. getting all the way to the end like that and then losing…….it’s just a great feeling”

um. colby?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

I think he's half asleep sometimes

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Boog talking about his Kobe encounter

I forget sometimes that he’s pretty well-spoken for a babbler.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

wow... I bet he doesn't do that when Carp pitches......

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

if anyone's interested

Joe Mather talking about being heroic on the beach in the Caribbean. I don’t know why anyone would be interested in that, of course.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 9, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

if lugo gets 600 plate appearances

we have to pay him 9Mil next year

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

Crap he'll have that by june.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

that's officially the 1000th heh heh heh

I think you people are just baiting the robot.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

heh

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty sure Y2S posted that earlier.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

he's rehabbing his wrist

and he is still 500x better than me at throwing a baseball

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe you should throw with your throwing arm.

and not use Mariah Carey as a example on how to throw.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

damn...

having a lucky week so far. Monday got a sweet summer job in NYC, today got awarded a $4,000 educational grant (not loan, just free $), and just now got a response from the airline that screwed up my flight on saturday — they gave me a free roundtrip trip ticket to any of their destinations, including international. Any long shots you can think of that I should take a chance on while I’m on this hot streak?

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 10:31 PM EST reply actions  

use the $4000 on lottery tickets.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Lottery tickets.

Powerball and Mega Millions because why not?

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 9, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

you copycat.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

why not indeed

might as well step up to the plate, my BABIP’s like .900 right now

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Get out of the basement

and ask that girl you’ve been peeping at had the hots for out on a date.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 9, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

she'll never go for me.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

wtf?

is that Michael Skakel?

by mattyp on Mar 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

hi! i'm george! george mcfly!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

/Stab and run away

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

heh heh heh

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."

by BVHeck on Mar 10, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a reputation to uphold, I can't be seen as some ruthless killer.

also you should be dead, I just stabbed you.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

damn it

well just kill me now…sigh

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

You're a looney

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Cody goes on and on about crazy shit every night.

But I drop one little comment about being invincible and I’m a looney.

Pfft.

STAB STAB STAB

by spants on Mar 10, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't go on and on about crazy shit every night

I get REAL.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

real crazy

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

note the period after "REAL".

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

and you call yourself a basement dweller!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I want a free roundtrip international ticket

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 9, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

I’d go to Greece.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd go to Spain or Italy.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 9, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotta say...

I’ve been to Switzerland and it is the most beautiful place. You can totally do the country inn thing for not a ton of money. I ate a horrible horsesteak there.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 10, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Is there such a thing as

a delicious horse steak?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 10, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No, and I was drunk too.

Everything tastes good when your drunk, except apparently horsesteak. It was even covered in gravy.

Maybe if they would have put bacon on it…..

Seriously, it must have been some 30 year old plowmare that was put down. It was the toughest meat I’ve ever eaten.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 10, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually might go to Switzerland now.

Because there is probably still snow. And I love snow.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 10, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You keep saying that,

but I’m curious how you’ll feel when living in a climate that is winter 50% of the year, with 2 months each of spring, summer, and fall.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 10, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Colorado?

I always go the impression that Colorado was pretty good about the four seasons. ANd we went there in March and it was like 60. And people said that was normal.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 10, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Colorado you will be fine.....

although it is still possible to see snow in July, because it is the Rocky Mountains. I guess I’m just saying snow sucks and I’m fricking tired of it already. It snowed again last night.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that's where I want to live.

I like a pretty good split of four seasons. Couldn’t handle Montana or wherever you are.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 10, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

complain next time, and make it humorous!

can’t remember exactly what I wrote, but the CSR said it was much more enjoyable and creative than the usual complaint. I was inspired by this when I was writing it. Guess that had something to do with it, because I’m sure not everyone who fills out the standard online complaint form gets free tickets

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

A crime against BLOODY COOKING!

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks for the link. That was hilarious.

by ubeddie on Mar 9, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Get a Sam Adams Utopia or two...

I hear they are worth the elevated price.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 9, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Possible Twitter fight erupting.

Strauss complains about Twitter news being not real news. Such as a 19 year old non-roster pitcher not appearing in an exhibition game is more important than something that actually happened. BJRains responds that he was merely referring to Shelby Miller’s family coming down, if our dear friend Strauss, was indeed referring to him.
My personal favorite:
dgoold @BJRains slow poke.
Don’t really know what that means but I think it’s awesome.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:05 PM EST reply actions  

Strauss explains:

JoeStrauss @BJRains Not about you. About changing definition of “news.” Pujols’ back stiffness=news. Who relieves first in pretend game=not so much.
But he specifically mentioned a pitcher…

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions  

you have got to be kidding me

Strauss – who induces people into staying up til midnight so he can report what’s already self-evident to anyone who isn’t on glue – complaining about “news” lacking substance

by mattyp on Mar 9, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

he's like a whinery

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

Nice.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions  

just watch

next year he will be following twitter like a bloodhound when everyone else is on some new thing

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 9, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

his prior tweet

was a plug for his Wed on line chat.

by ubeddie on Mar 9, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

luckily I don't even really know who this strauss guy is

I don’t pay attention to him

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

How does one live in such an angry state all the time?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And apparently goold and rains were in some sort of race.

I was think of a slow poke, as in poking someone. Which was a funny image in my head.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Strauss is still butt hurt

over Rains putting out all of the quotes in his Pujols ready for free agency crap.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 9, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it's time to "Old Yeller" Joe Strauss

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 10, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

but who can we get to replace him?

hmmmm?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

brett favre?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

You forgot the Pegacorn

This is required for all Strauss topics to prevent a homicidal binge from some VEB reader

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 10, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

well

i just got my fatass out for an 8.5 mile bike ride. woo

gonna shoot for 10 by this time next week

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

well done sir

well done

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 9, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Just find a long hill at the end of your 8.5 miles

should make getting to 10 miles easier.

FWIW - cheating is trying :)

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 10, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Did Joe Mather get cut from the big team?

And how did I not notice this sooner?

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 9, 2010 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

WHAT?

This is not cool.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh wait.

He’s referring to Survivor: Jupiter, which is apparently a contest to see who plays in the most consecutive games in ST. But then he says Mather was reassigned to minor league camp so…
Please don’t be true.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

nah
The race to play in the most consecutive games since the start of spring took an interesting turn Sunday evening as one of the eligible contestants was reassigned to minor-league camp.

he doesn’t specify there, but i would be shocked, shocked if it was mather who was reassigned.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh.

Phew. I hope you’re right.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I think a new paragraph may have helped.

Or something.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I just saw Mather's name in close proximity and thought,

“But I’m not ready to say goodbye to those golden locks and chiseled features.”

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

It was one of the scariest moments of the night.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I did actually.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I was actually sad when I heard that.

Even if it is good for the Indians. I hate when good players get hurt and he’s always been one of my favorites.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so too.

The “yet.”

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks, dg

your choice to start a new paragraph just about gave half of veb a pants full of unpleasant

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

that's consecutive days played

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 9, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew that part.

I just had a reading comprehension fail.

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 9, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone care to explain to me

how salaries are determined for 0-3 players’ contract renewals?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 10, 2010 12:07 AM EST reply actions  

huh?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

right

i always assumed that they were fixed raises, but there appears to be some ordeal over what adam jones got, plus at some point ryan howard ended up getting $900K in one of his pre-arb years

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 10, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

so they just felt like giving him more money.

ok

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

They rewarded his performance with a raise.

You want to keep your employees happy.

Heh heh heh.

by spants on Mar 10, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

especially when they can make blood vessels in your brain explode by looking at you.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i'm sorry, i was looking at the lugo discussion below.

disregard. go on about your business.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

but he already has all that

Subway Philly Cheesesteak money rolling in

by mattyp on Mar 10, 2010 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

and a MVP trophy :(

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 10, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

apparently

the cards did the same thing with albert

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

hey, i didn't know

that lugo had a vesting option for 2011. if it vests (it won’t), boston is still on the hook for his services?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 10, 2010 12:19 AM EST reply actions  

"Yes, Mr. Epstein,

You give us Clay Bucholz and we’ll give you Julio Lugo. If not, Tony will make him the defensive replacement for an inning in every game this year to make sure his option vests and you have to pay him another $10M."

…..

“No I don’t think that’s unreasonable”

……

“Well you don’t have to use that kind of language. It’s not my fault that Chris Duncan wasn’t the second coming of David Ortiz and you signed a crazy crotch-grabber to a $50M contract!!!”

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 10, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

new belgium mothership wit

WHAT

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 10, 2010 12:45 AM EST reply actions  

i mean

i don’t care if i’m not really a “drinker”

this is some tasty shiz

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 10, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

it's pretty good

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

All their beers are great

I do get really tired of them after a while though.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 10, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

agree

as with any beer, if you drink them a lot you get burned out on them, gotta have some variety

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Mitchell and Ness

has 50% off right now with code FB5000. Too expensive for me for an impulse buy, but I guess if you were already planning on getting something like a retro jersey this should help. LINK

by mattyp on Mar 10, 2010 1:12 AM EST reply actions  

so we get a Penny post for Sunday?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Success!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

damn that VEP

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 14, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

wooooo!

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

he's fat.

i just couldn’t figure out how to stretch that classification out to a full front page post, or i woulda done it already.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 3:15 AM EST up reply actions  

hey tom s.

if i could request a post (do you have a request line?)
the history of doubleheaders seems to be a hot topic…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 10, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

explain. i am intrigued.

what about doubleheaders? like when they stopped being scheduled into the regular season?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

history, thought process, why they disappeared ($)

when, etc. – i’m with yadi. sounds like some research, but it’s a great topic for the greatest sport, and the only one that (in theory) plays two – and genuine vs. split (again, $).

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 11, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

not to mention, whether they would keep the playoffs out of November

discussion

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 14, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

take your pick, chief

you’re the one doing all the work

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 10, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yes

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 10, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

penny

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

penny

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I vote for Rich Hill

The other guys are definitely in the rotation, as thus less exciting to me.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 10, 2010 2:55 AM EST up reply actions  

that's a salient point

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 3:31 AM EST up reply actions  

i prefer salient to silicone.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 10, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

oh for eff's sake

no one can really decipher that fanpost

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

woh

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 10, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

didn't see this mentioned

fangraphs top ten prospects, in order: lynn, garcia, jones, craig, sanchez, descalso, reifer, freese, anderson, kozma (no 2009 picks included)

- the blurb on freeze says derosa could end up back with cards, so i’m assuming the cards piece (they did all 30 teams) was written awhile back and never updated.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 10, 2010 3:11 AM EST reply actions  

the importance of the comma.

i misread a sidebar feature reading “russell martin pulls groin, out 4-6 weeks” as “russell martin pulls groin out, 4-6 weeks.” i thought, “really? you can do that? sounds excruciatingly painful.”

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 10, 2010 3:37 AM EST reply actions  

I think the time table for a return on the latter

would be MUCH longer than 4-6 weeks

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 10, 2010 7:54 AM EST up reply actions  

sometimes leaving SportsCenter on pays off

Check out the Milton Bradley feature (I think it’s on their Chicago “affiliate” also). No matter what you think of the topic… almost all of the “MB messes up” footage are Cardinals highlights. Oh, oh so classic.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 10, 2010 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

LOL, that's so great.

I heart our regular infield. Yeah, I said it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 10, 2010 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

uhoh

looks like our lineup will be quite like this today

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

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