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Only so many people can be in the best shape of their lives

My judgment may be a little rose-colored by the terrible National TV broadcast, proof we're getting close to baseball season, but yesterday's game was the first one I managed to catch that made me feel like I was actually watching a baseball game, and not waiting for interesting prospects to come to bat.

Maybe it's because the interesting prospect was already pitching! Jaime Garcia's velocity was a little lower than I expected—mostly 88-90 on the fastball—but not adjusting a scout's 93 was my bad in the first place, and his fastball command more than made up for the iffy gun readings. And that curveball—I'm sure Rich Hill's is (or was) better than that, but I don't know how much better it could have been. That Garcia isn't known as "the left-hander with the curveball" is a testament to his other pitches. 

But what got me most was this stretch of the batting order, between—eghh—Lugo and Pagnozzi—Pujols, Holliday; Rasmus, Ludwick. Two guys I don't have to be optimistic about, and two guys I'm optimistic about. Rasmus, especially, seems like a great chance for the Cardinals to pick up a win or two; we look at his season is a success, because Ankiel was so bad and his defense was so good, but if you'd shown me his numbers before 2009 I would have been pretty disappointed. A .307 OBP? A .407 SLG? It's nice and symmetrical, and all, but not particularly valuable. 

Basically, having passed through the period of time during which everyone is in the best shape of his life, I'm left with unverifiable hunches about who actually is in the best shape of his life. Since I'm getting over—or just getting into—a nasty brain cloud-style cold, my opinions don't matter. That means it's time for a poll. The choices, and the reasoning for them, after the jump:

Star-divide

 

  • Colby Rasmus—PECOTA has him pegged for basically the exact season he had last year—ten points more in OBP, identical slugging—but gives him a 22% breakout rate, which is pretty good. (Breakout rate, in Prospectus parlance, is the chance that his EQR/27—insert offensive rate stat here—increases by 20% relative to his baseline in the next season.) It's easy to like Rasmus as a breakout candidate; he had the reasons to be in the worst (and now best) shape of his life, he was extremely well regarded as an offensive player as recently as last year, and he had times in 2010 where he looked the part.
  • Ryan Ludwick—Ludwick gets a low breakout percentage, perhaps because an enormous breakout season is already reflected in his last three years. PECOTA thinks he'll do about what he did last year, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that happens—I'm not expecting this breakout—but a slugging percentage around .500 isn't out of the question. 
  • Jason Motte—PECOTA really loves Motte, projecting him for a 3.41 ERA next year, mostly on the strength of halving his incredibly high home run rate from 2009. I think this is something we often forget about when projecting players' future chances—just because it looked like Motte should be giving up a ton of home runs doesn't mean that what happened in 2009 was normal. Even if he doesn't pitch any better it seems likely to me that 1.6 home runs per nine was on the high end of his range of possible outcomes. If he gives up half as many home runs as he did in 2009—five—and you assume they're all solo shots, his ERA is below 4. 
  • Write-in vote—Mitchell Boggs? Albert Pujols? The Cardinals have a surprising number of known quantities this year; I like Skip Schumaker, but I don't really expect him to suddenly hit 15 home runs, or anything. But if you want to tell me this is the year Alberg finally hits .400 with 60 home runs—well, I'm listening. 
Poll
Best shape of his life?
Jason Motte
28 votes
Colby Rasmus
656 votes
Ryan Ludwick
189 votes
The Field
134 votes

1007 votes | Poll has closed

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first vote!

gave it to the guy whose jersey i wear. go colby.

by nycbirdo on Mar 30, 2010 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

I voted Colby as well.

Ol’ Orange ’n White is going to be a BEAST this year. Mark my words.

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by the red baron on Mar 30, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

nobody cares about your fantasy team

I drafted a fantasy team in a 12 team league (snake) with a bunch of chicago guys. (mostly sox fans).
The cardinals I ended up with: (not in this order, I don’t think)
 - Carpenter
 - Wainwright
 - Ludwick (called him a 4th OF)
 - Rasmus (they laughed at this one. the reason I’m boring you with this)
 - Skip
 - Franklin
 - Garcia (last pick of the draft)

I also have Lincecum & Hanson. at first they had more pitching than offensive categories, so I loaded up on pitching early, but then somebody saw the unevenness right before the draft and evened it out, so hitting is a little light on my team. luckily avg. isn’t a category (AB & OPS are) so Carlos Pena’s avg won’t hurt me as much. plus I have swisher who OPS’s pretty well in Yankee stadium.

wow. I need a life.

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i drafted swisher as well

his positional flexibility is nice…as is his 90+ walks

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by VolsnCards5 on Mar 30, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

AB sounds like a dreadful category

You get punished when your guy takes a walk or is HBP? What’s up with that?

by oplaid on Mar 30, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

I guess they did it to offset having OPS as a category

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like how you left Stavinoha off

so the others would have a chance.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 8:01 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

LaDunc

See above

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 30, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for Ludwick

Mainly because Colby is too young to be in the best shape of his life. I think the minimum for “best shape” is probably 29 yrs old. OMS for the win.

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

same

even though ludwick was probably already ITBSOHL in 08. But he could be better. And Colby still looks too skinny to me. Either way, I think both of those dudes are primed to have great seasons. I see the Cardinals easily having the best OF in the NL.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers would disagree.

I dont know where I stand on that. I guess a lot depends on Manny.

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by njnick on Mar 30, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny has OPS'd under .949 twice in his career

And neither of those two years were in the last two seasons. I expect Manny will hit, and hit will. The Dodgers outfield is stellar.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny is also (without looking it up) 38 years old.

Time for some decline to begin.

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by njnick on Mar 30, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's fine

I expect “some decline,” too. But he posted a .949 OPS last year, and if he slips to .900, that’s still a significant offensive weapon. I don’t know that I see any reason for him to fall off a cliff, unless he gets hurt.

I’m just saying, the Dodgers have a ballin’ outfield, even if Manny is being slightly less Manny this year. I’m optimistic about our OF, too, but we’re also expecting a big progression from Colby and a big bounceback from Ludwick. All the Dodgers need is to stay the same, so they seem like a better bet, especially given that the sky is the limit for Matt Kemp.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or ya know...

sits out 50 games for no reason at all..

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by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

wouldn't it be 100 this time?

for the second offense…

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by CorkyRasmit on Mar 30, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I really need to tighten up my game… season starts in less than a week.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll also be 38 at the end of May

and who knows how much he’s been juicing off and on for the past 10 years. He’s a great hitter, but I wouldn’t be surprised if his power numbers suddenly fell off a cliff.

He’s bound to decline at some point, despite his fitness level. He can’t stay at that high level forever.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

who is will

and what is manny’s problem with him?

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

eff. i forgot about the dodgers.

well i think ethier is a little overvalued, at least from a fantasy baseball perspective. manny will probably be awesome because its his contract year.

Even then, assuming Holliday plays like he did in the second half last year, and assuming Colby and Luddy have the seasons we think they are going to:

Holliday > Manny
Kemp > Colby (barely)
Ethier = Ludwick

So I see it as a tie. I am obviously very biased.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ethier is way overvalued in fantasy

But he’s probably a three win player in real life, which is probably about what we can expect Ludwick to be with a modest bounceback year.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That Kemp Rasmus comparison

Is off. Kemp is a much better player than Colby right now. Maybe in 2 or three years Colby will have closed the gap but currently, Kemp is a lot better than “barely” better than Rasmus.

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by njnick on Mar 30, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those sentences barely made sense

but I think you know what i was trying to say.

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by njnick on Mar 30, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

right now, sure

but I’m saying this based on how we expect colby to perform this year. and because we expect him (or at least I do) to hit 20 HRs and 90 RBI, and because of his defensive value, I expect Kemp to be only slightly better than Colby by the end of the season. i had a disclaimed about my bias, anyway.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemp is 25, already a 5 WAR player, and could still improve

I love Colby, too, but realistically, Kemp is a monster and Colby is untapped potential.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Ripping off Simmons’ Trade Value concept, there aren’t many players higher on the trade value list at this point than Matt Kemp. He’s probably in the top 5 or 6 guys on that list with Longoria being #1 by a wide margin due to his great contract.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

La Douche would have to be on that list too, considering his contract

i think i saw the other day the dodgers, in extending both ethier and kemp for 2 years, gave ethier 15 mil and kemp only 10 – that seemed reversed to me.

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by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I’m sure that Kemp looking like he’s half asleep or searching for a bag of Doritos most of the time doesn’t inspire much confidence, lol.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slow down the train a little bit on the Cardinal outfield love.

Holliday > Manny? Probably not, unless you think that Manny’s going to fall off a cliff this season. Manny’s OPS’d below .949 twice in his career. Holliday’s only DONE it twice in his career. In terms of total WAR, they’re probably about equal due to Manny’s atrocious defense, but they aren’t nearly the same hitter.

I also think the Kemp and Rasmus comparisons are a little off. I would trade Rasmus for Kemp right now. I’d even kick in another prospect to do so. No way the Dodgers make that trade. Kemp is 25 and won’t be 26 until the end of the season. I love Colby, but to say that he’s just a smidge lower than Kemp is really overvaluing Rasmus or really undervaluing Kemp.

Ethier = Ludwick if Ludwick has a repeat of 2008, except Ethier is cheaper, probably a better defender, younger, and has the ability to carry a team for a stretch of games. I don’t think that Ludwick has that quality. Obviously you can get him out with lefties, but I can’t think of too many lefties you can’t get out with a good LOOGY, that’s why they exist in the first place.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manny’s OPS’d below .949 twice in his career.

didn’t you JUST refute this logic not five minutes ago?

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I didn't

I simply said he’s not guaranteed to put up those numbers forever, and that he could fall off a cliff at any time because his performance may have been enhanced.

Expecting Holliday to hit like it’s the last two months of 2009 is the definition of “inflated”, and he’d have to do that to be on par with Manny at the plate. Like I said, by WAR they’re probably comparable, but offensively Holliday can’t touch Manny Ramirez. No right handed hitter not named Pujols this decade can compare, actually.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little late to this debate, as per usual

but Holliday’s been a pretty consistent 6-win guy and is slap-bang in the middle of his prime. Manny’s pretty frickin’ awesome with the bat, and I’m sure he’ll still tattoo the ball this year even without chemical enhancement, but he’s exceeded 6 WAR only once since 2003, mainly because he’s so awful in the field.

The projections seem to like him for a .400-ish wOBA next year, but they’re also projecting similar for Holliday (CHONE and Marcel both have Holliday as the better hitter in 2010, Bill James and ZiPS prefer Manny, but they’re really all very close) and, realistically, 30-year old Matt Holliday, who hasn’t taken less than 600 PAs in any of the last 4 years, is likely to have more playing time than 38-year-old Manny Ramirez, who’s only taken 600 PAs once in the last four years.

Add in the fact that Holliday is probably close to 2 wins better than Manny in the field, and I think it’s fair to say he’s a much better player, circa 2010. Probably by 2-3 wins in total.

As to the other comparisons, though, I agree that Kemp is way better than Colby (and likely will be this year), and I think Ethier’s better than Ludwick (I’d certainly swap the two if they were earning the same money). Overall, though, I think the two outfields are comparable. I’d probably give it to the Dodgers, but it’s close.

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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The real difference between the two teams, imo,

outside of Mr. Pujols, is on the pitching staffs. The Dodgers have a pretty weak starting staff after the top two slots while the Cardinals have a bit more depth and a bit more injury concern. The Dodgers bullpen is probably the best in the National League, while the Cardinals bullpen is full of a bunch of unknowns and high upside guys with a 38 year old closer.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 31, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, you're probably right

although if Kuroda’s healthy this year he’s probably as good as any of our guys outside of the big 2. I kinda feel like their rotation is just a little bit worse than ours in every spot, but in reality they’re probably not much worse overall.

Carp > Billingsley
Waino > Kershaw
Kuroda > Penny
Lohse> Padilla

I’d say whoever wins the respective 5th spots will probably be a bit of a toss-up too, but I like what Garcia’s done in comparison to whoever is their 5th guy (Haeger? McDonald? I don’t think either of those guys are very good right now and there’s not much depth).

All the above are probably arguable, too – some might say BIllingsley’s better than Carp because of the injury risk (although I think it’d be very hard to argue that any of their starters are better than Waino, after last year).

Like you said before, the infield is a big difference, too. We’re better or equal in pretty much every spot IMO, with Pujols being about 5 wins better than Loney, which is really pretty collosal. I actually think our advantage in the infield is the big decider.

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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

That, catching routine fly balls, and not getting 3 hit by the likes of Randy Wolf and Vicente Padilla.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 31, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

if Motte somehow develops a second pitch and Boggs has more control they do.

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 4, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa!

Did I really just read this on VEB?

I don’t think that Ludwick has that quality.

I think you just mentioned an intangible. Isn’t that forbidden here?

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by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That intangible matters

While Manny was on the shelf, Ethier really carried and led that ballclub last year. Same thing happened down the stretch of the playoffs. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that he and Russell Martin are their clubhouse leaders. If Pujols got hurt, I don’t see Ludwick picking up the slack to carry the Cardinals. He’s just not that type of guy — good ballplayer, but not a vocal leader or someone who puts the team on his back when they need it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

luddy just HRed for the third game in a row. just sayin.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

In Spring Training

Didn’t Carp homer the other day? David Freese is hitting like .370 the last two weeks. Carp and WW have looked like shit in all their starts. Anthony Reyes only allowed 2 earned runs one spring and was traded for a AA prospect 2 years later.

I don’t put much stock in spring stats.

FWIW, I predicted Ludwick to have a .900+ OPS by the All-Star break. I even bet Azruavatar that he would. I’m not down on Ludwick, I just think that Ethier is a better player and will continue to be a better player in the future. You’re basing your assumptions on Colby improving to be as good as Kemp, but on Ethier (the younger) dropping off as Ludwick (the older) has a breakout. Sorry, I just see a lot of rose colored glasses there.

If the Dodgers had any reliable starters past Billingsley and an infield that didn’t hit like a bunch of middle infielders they’d be a really tough team to beat.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think carp and waino

have looked like shit in all their starts, at all.

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by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The point is

they’re working on things. When they’re working on things they’re going to tend to get hit more often. Similarly, Ludwick might get a lot of fastballs in spring training because pitchers are trying to fine tune their control and are working out the winter kinks. Get into the season, and he won’t see a fastball on a 2-1 count for 3 months. That’s all I’m saying — you can’t put a ton of confidence into those numbers.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmm
Get into the season, and he won’t see a fastball on a 2-1 count for 3 months.

Are there no other teams out there with a Motte like player in the pen?

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by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

does a Motte-like person exist?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably

but he might only see that guy once in three months.

If the scouting report says not to throw him a fastball in a hitters count, most pitchers who have other pitches aren’t going to do that. In the spring, it doesn’t matter much — you’re working on fundamentals and fine tuning your control, so you’re not pitching to a scouting report very often. They’re exhibition games, they don’t mean anything.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh I agree completely

Those are the kinds of things that keep me glued to games long into the summer, yet people seem to be down in intangibles here.

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by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's hash this out before the regular season

It’s not that people (I’m speaking broadly from my own opinion) don’t believe in intangibles. It’s that we acknowledge there’s no cogent, objective way to measure them so we don’t bother to try. I’ll take the “nice guy” everytime if he’s an appreciably equivalent talent to the “bad guy”. The reality is that no one outside of the coaching staff or the players has much of an idea who is or isn’t an ass.

To conclude: intangibles do exist but you can’t properly evaluate them.

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by azruavatar on Mar 30, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also

Many of the “intangibles” are represented somewhat by a player’s statistical output. Things like being a clubhouse leader, being a nice dude, tickling Colby — those things are impossible to measure, like you said. But when people say things like “he’s got heart” or “he’s gritty” or “he’s persistent” or “he’s smart” or whatever, those are qualities that, presumably, affect a player’s performance.

Maybe it manifests in hanging in for a tough AB against a good pitcher and working a walk. Maybe it means he goes from second to home when another guy might not. Maybe it means…well, whatever. Point is, these are things that affect a player’s statistical output — they’ll get on base more or steal a few more bases or hit another homer or two. So those things are being measured, even if we don’t know how MUCH of a player’s results are related to his “heart” or “grit” or whatever.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

My opinion is strictly that, an opinion. It’s hard to quantify what I’m talking about, it’s just something I see (or think I see, I guess) when I watch Ethier take a late game AB and when I watch Ludwick take a late game AB. Hard to quantify, but I just perceive that he’s got the innate ability to come through in big situations and put his team on his back. Very few players have that quality.

As mojo says above, I think you can quantify some of those things statistically, but the sample sizes are really the problem. Bill James seems to have come around a little bit on the idea of certain players being “clutch”, when he used to completely deny that “clutchiness” existed.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

2008 Luddy could carry the offense, I think

Imagine if Luddy’s 2008 .406 wOBA resurfaced. The Cards would just run away with the division, I think.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying numbers wise

I’m saying rising to the occasion in big moments and winning games all on their own. Pujols has done that, Bonds did it. I don’t think that Ludwick has that type of persona. Rising to the occasion when your team needs you. I love the guy, but I don’t see that in him.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

somehow

I think his 92% LD rate or whatever the hell it was in 2008 was the anomaly of all anomalies….

That said, I think he’ll be above-average this year. He’s never going to be that player again, though.

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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

see above.

i based my assessment on the fact that Manny is going to be 38 this year and that he’s been on who knows what kind of PEDs for who knows how long. his second half last year was good, but not stellar. manny will play well this year, but I think Holliday will be better.

as for Kemp, colby blows him away on defense, which I took into account. CHONE projects Colby to be worth one win less than Kemp. considering the fact that most of us think the projections for Colby are low, I don’t think its a stretch to say that, as an overall player, Kemp will be only slightly better than Colby this season.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemp blows away Colby on offense

and you’re basing Rasmus’ defense on a limited amount of innings. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a 1.5 win defender, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if he’s just a 0.5 win defender.

Like I said above, John Mozeliak would trade Colby for Kemp straight up if it was offered. He wouldn’t even think twice about it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm

I can’t really figure out why CHONE has Kemp backsliding a little this year. Last year he increased his walk rate, decreased his strikeout rate, his BABIP went down, his ISO (and HR totals) went up, his speed score went up, all while his LD rate actually went down. And I can’t see any reason he’d get anything but better on defense.

That’s a weird projection. I like the Fans’ projections at FanGraphs much better, which have him being a 5.5 win player.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think he could be a 6-7 win player if he makes “the leap”. He certainly has that type of talent. Now if Torre would stop jacking him around in the order so he could find a place to hit.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Torre stopped messing with him in the second half last year

I think he pretty much hit third for the entire second half.

I agree. Kemp is a “great” player now, and has the ability to make the leap to “transcendent.”

Not “ridiculous,” though. There’s only one ridiculous.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, lol

and that would be 2002-2004 Barry Bon…

oops, my mistake

2001-2009 Albert Pujols.

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by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hinky

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Suspicious as in "Suspiciously under the influence of PED’s.

OR

Suspicious as in “What fucking planet is this guy from?”

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by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, based on video

from the 1970s/80s and earlier, that too-skinny Colby would be a pretty average guy back in those days.

I think Colby looks noticeably better this year … more like an athlete and less like an Apple Store clerk.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 30, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yesterday

Watching the game yesterday my first thought seeing Colby was that he appeared to be more ‘filled-out’ this season. I think he looks noticeably bigger.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh

I guess I stepped into that.

Well done.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, he put back 15 of the pounds he lost

and it’s not fat, so that pretty significant

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

i guess i should have asked bsol to date, or bsol for his career. cloby i think can do better, but luddy is peaked out i suspect

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 30, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR's mental shape

had better be improved from his game playing with Ankiel the pitcher. Please don’t let him screw up Garcia. Unfortunately he already seems to be playing games- is he, isn’t he the fifth starter, does he pitch game 5 or 6 of the regular season. Let’s hope he is at least being clear and direct with Garcia, if not with us. The few times (including yesterday when he reportedly did not have his best stuff) I’ve seen Garcia he looks good. Photographically he looks a lot like Johann Santana. Stuff wise he looks a lot like Randy Wolf. Ludwick looks poised for a monster year, and I think Colby will be what we hoped for last year.

by vinniefromjersey on Mar 30, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't worry too much.

For one thing, Garcia’s brain is not Ankiel’s. LARGE difference between a guy hyped as a can’t-miss star practically from birth, and one drafted in the 22nd round.

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by StanTheManFan on Mar 30, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1.

Yes, and Ankiel clearly was a guy who never actually liked the hype … making him always uncomfortable in his own skin. From the quotes I’ve been seeing from Garcia, he seems like a confident and determined kid. That, throwing strikes and a nice hook can get you a long way.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 30, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

double-edged sword

was that tony’s fault? if so, then we also criticize his affinity for proven veterans?

by _pistol_ on Mar 30, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think has been playing any games with him.

They told him he and a slim chance at making the team. Basically that Hill and McClellan would have to look like they couldn’t handle the job before he would Garcia would get a look. McClellan did look like he could handle the job btw; but Garcia pitched so well took the spot.

If anyone is being dicked around here it is McClellan. Who seems to have handled it well.

As far as the rotation goes. I read somewhere that Tony had two rotations that he presented to Duncan and they have selected one. They might try to limit Garcia’s innings a bit, but thats more do to coming off of TJ surgery. (Btw, they pulled Carpenter a few times in Apirl last year from games which he was in control of and could have gone longer for the same reason.)

by Evilfrog on Mar 30, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to see how McClellan was dicked around...

He was told there would be a competition between himself, Hill, and Garcia. Garcia pitched the best so he won and McClellan went back to the bullpen (and Hill, who pitched the worst, went to the minors). That’s not being dicked around; that’s just life in the major leagues.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 30, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

to date

kmac has the better ERA than garcia. kmac is in the bullpen more because of a need in the bullpen. i the pen were stacked, i doubt garcia could have made the rotation out of camp

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 30, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, and if sundaes grew in my

back yard I’d never have to go to Baskin-Robbins. KMac wasn’t mistreated here, in the actual situation he found himself in.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 30, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

okay,

but jaime is the fifth starter because he “pitched the best, so he won”

jaime is the fifth starter because the bullpen sucks and kmac was needed there. “we had no other options” <- dave duncan

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

is not for that first sentecne

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I haven't looked at all the ST numbers

but ST ERA seems to be an inadequate way to judge how each has pitched. I haven’t seen either pitch this spring, but I imagine Garcia has looked much better.

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

they've both looked really good

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ERA isn't the only stat

Garcia: 5 G (1 GS), 18.2 IP, 13 H, 5 BB, 16 K
McClellan: 6 G (2 GS), 12 IP, 9 H, 5 BB, 11 K

Jaime logged almost 7 more innings in one less appearance, and missed a lot more bats. I think he won the job because he pitches well in the STL mould — throw strikes, get groundballs, but have the stuff to get strikeouts when you need one. He’s been the better pitcher.

But yes, I think our need for a reliable RHP in the pen probably helped him, too.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

missed a lot more bats

garcia k/9 – 7.9
kmac k/9 – 8.25

seems like kmac missed bats at a better rate to me

jg h/9 – 6.43
km h/9 – 6.75

jg k/bb – 3.2
km k/bb – 2.2

so jaime was better on walks, but from the sample, i’d say they were both pretty good. still my point is that the only competition jaime won by being the better pitcher was garcia v. hill. even if we say that garcia was better than kmac and tony/dunc agree, the main reason garcia starts the year in st louis was because kmac had to be in the pen

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Mac keeps that 2.2 K/BB all year

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by hazel on Mar 30, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

even in the pen, that’ll be pretty useful if he can maintain his solid GB rate. Probably good enough to be an acceptable set-up guy.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna guess.....
But yes, I think our need for a reliable RHP in the pen probably helped him, too.

That if we had Luke Gregerson in the pen, McClellan would be the 5th starter. Well founded statement there, imo.

Nothing wrong with two guys pitching really well and duking it out for that role though, only to have BOTH of them on the roster in some capacity.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that's all i was saying

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think McClellan got dicked around though.

I think he’s a perfect example of a “team guy” or “glue guy”. He does what the team needs him to do in a given situation. In this situation he was needed in the bullpen. Next year he might be needed in the rotation. Those players are hard to find this day and age, where you have players like Steve Kline that want to dictate to the manager when they should and should not be used. (sidenote: I hate Steve Kline).

We should be glad to have a guy who’s willing to go to the bullpen even though he pitched well enough to earn a starting spot simply because that’s what the team needs him to do. That’s a true professional.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i agree with all of this

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he wasn't willing to go to the bullpen

then what does he do, go home? not sure i give him points for pitching where he’s told.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

He could demand a trade

He could skulk around the clubhouse and bitch about pitching in the bullpen to the media.

He could make a valid case that the club is costing him money by keeping him in the bullpen versus letting him try his talents out as a starter.

He’s done none of that. He goes where he’s needed and does his job. That’s a lot of the reason why Tony and Dave like him so much.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

see worrell, mark.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Thanks for the assist.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i admit he's taking it well

but doing any of those things wouldn’t be very good for his career, either – he knows where his bread is buttered; at least i’ll give him professional points for that.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

you’re right, since Jaime had a 1.93 ERA (over 18.2 innnings) and McClellan had a 1.50 ERA (over 12 innings), McClellan pitched better. Silly me. I retract my comment.

/sarcasm

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 30, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's not my point

but if you’re gonna be condescending i don’t feel the need to spell it out to you

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree all you like,

but don’t be an ass.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 30, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

who you callin an ass Pal???

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 30, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look nobody is talkin to you chief

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 31, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 on wolf, actually

that looks a pretty good comp for Garcia going forwards, although I think Garcia may coax a higher GB% and doesn’t seem to have much of a slider (at all) as far as I can see. And, obviously, hopefully won’t be incredibly injury-prone…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

hill to memphis

sorry, memphis

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

lineups from Goold

link
    1. Felipe Lopez, 2B
    2. Brendan Ryan, SS
    3. Ryan Ludwick, RF
    4. Matt Holliday, LF
    5. Allen Craig, 1B
    6. David Freese, 3B
    7. Joe Mather, CF
    8. Jason LaRue, C
    9. Chris Carpenter, P

It may be a touch surprising that Nick Stavinoha isn’t in the lineup, but he is going on the trip. La Russa confirmed yesterday that the final spot on the roster has come down to three guys into two spots on the bench. Those three: Stavinoha, Mather, and Craig.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Goold is caught up in the wonder of baseball

shhhh.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Molina test-drive

like he’s a car… or a tank

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

The grounds crew hates it

when people test drive their cars or tanks on the field.

by Evilfrog on Mar 30, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's just going to make some tight turns around home plate

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this 2010 LHP lineup?

-Craig, +Pujols

LaRussa makes too much sense too little of the time.

by FlintCardsFan on Mar 30, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

No -- I think Colby still plays CF against lefties

He was in CF for most of the last two months last year, even against lefties. His defense is just too good to take out of center field. That’s not saying Tony won’t rest him against lefty starters occasionally, but it’s certainly not going to be all the time.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

he hit lefties in the minors

i think that will be a huge part of his anticipated improvement this year.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

you really are evil

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

But it solves so many problems.

We get a Vet who we know can go every fifth day. We move so outfield bench glut. Brewers get one of their young guys on the rotation plus a bench bat.

Now all we have to do is Convince DeWitt to “Open DeWallet” It’s only $14.7 Mil right? Just raise beer prices by a nickel or something.

by Evilfrog on Mar 30, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

jaime > soup

but at this point, soup > penny. i hope penny pitches better once the regular season starts. i’ve been pretty disappointed thus far.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

talkin' bout practice

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't do it

You know the ST stat line is a trap, don’t do it!

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not looking at the stats

just watching him pitch. at the beginning of ST, sure, but at this point, the guys are locked in – or should be. example: carp vs. whoever it was that we played a few days ago when he pitched really well.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been working on a 2-seamer, a pitch he's never mastered.

Duncan made it sound like Penny will abandon the 2-seamer if he can’t get it working since his 4-seamer already induces a lot of groundballs.

Personally, I think Dunc was lobbying for OI’ Christy to inhabit a new host.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 30, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's that you say?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

that's so wrong.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you spelled awesome wrong

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is terrible.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

where is the kiddy pool full of lemon juice?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 30, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that should refresh him

after an acid bath.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is Photoshopped

That little (Z) logo doesn’t appear naturally in the black borders around motivational posters.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he has joke

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

She seemed confused.

You okay?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 30, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was being sarcastic.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's cool.

I was just playing around. Hence the “heh.”

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 30, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

am i okay?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so...i can tell by the pixels and I've seen a few photoshops in my day

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 31, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

wat

how dare you call that funny picture a photoshop…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, the z in the corner.

I blame it on that Fat Cub.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 31, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He prefers

master of the beverage machine…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Suppan is abysmal

he would be out of a job if not for that ridiculous contract. I would rather just roll with Walters or KMac or something.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd trade for Parra right now

He doesn’t have a ton of value and could probably be had for peanuts, but we’re in the division, so that’s not going to happen.

Lugo for Parra? Done and done, lol.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sold lol

No way it’ll happen though unfortunately

....my quick smells like french toast...

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by mstreeter06 on Mar 30, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bingo!

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bango!

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a tiny bit concerned about the Brewers rotation

I think Gallardo will be excellent this year, and Bush and Parra are both talented and had really inexplicable bad years in 09, so the only way for them is up. Add in Davis and Wolf and that rotation could go from awful (I think it was worth 2 wins or something in 09) to above-average.

The Brewers could potentially add 10 wins this year in starting pitching alone.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Thought I Had a Brain-Cloud Once...

…but it turned out to be Jameson’s…

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 30, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Hay....

you need to verify your CBS Fantasy account, and get into the draft. You currently have Crawford and Elsbury and are on auto draft.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is still happening?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this going to be done by the time the season starts?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably not.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

go head first, make sure all four hooves are in

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I need league info and name and all that....

…when I go in all I see are my mock drafts

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 30, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you go to the

main page after you login, it says enter draft room on the right.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Username: Where's the Beef?

Password: Moo

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Passwod: Moo

(SBN’d)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what comes up when I sign on

“This is a private fantasy league. You are logged in with userid ‘moocowmoo2’, which does not have access to this league. If you think this is wrong, please contact the league commissioner and ask for an invite. "

No udder sign-on works

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 30, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I give my email address...

…it only accepts my AOL accownt, not my yahoo account – and the CBS account udder the aol email doesn’t show the VEB league, so I can’t get in.

:=8(

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 30, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Send Dan an email,

perhaps he can fix it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's a cowspiracy

to keep the moocow down.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just An-Udder I have to Put Up With...

…in this incredibly heroic life of mine…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 30, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

alberg

will hit .400 with 60 homeruns.
obviously.

by thecdude on Mar 30, 2010 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Until now we've only seen the tip of the Alberg

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 30, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

HAHAHA

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 30, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you!

  i was proud of that one.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I regret passing up the opportunity this morning

good work

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

how the f is that not green?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

done and done

with pleasure…

In the poker game of life, women are the rake.

by el birdo in soko on Mar 31, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

my first non-limerick green comment!

i’ve got to start thining of more funny things to say.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i vaguely remember reading

a plea for this meme to go away this year. and i understand that for some people it gets a little old. but there’s not many things that bring joy into my life like an unexpected and unusually well-played twss. also, the question mark makes it better. not sure why.

In the poker game of life, women are the rake.

by el birdo in soko on Mar 31, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think its better now that its not used all the time.

it really means something now. and the question mark makes it seem more innocent or something.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

like a young girl

just entering that heralded experimental phase, dipping her toe into the waters of sensuality?

yeah, that’s definitely what makes it better. good call.

In the poker game of life, women are the rake.

by el birdo in soko on Mar 31, 2010 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow,,,,

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

uhhh

yeah. whoa. ummm…

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

too far?

was that wrong? should i not have done that?

In the poker game of life, women are the rake.

by el birdo in soko on Mar 31, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

he said gently

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 31, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

or you know, just keep drinking

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i like plan b.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

my middle name is plan B

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

tell it to your pharmacist.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was waiting for that one.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Albert's Jewish half-brother

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Mar 30, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

for the record, I am appalled that so many want Boog to fast-track to the doghouse

aka Twitter.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 10:40 AM EDT reply actions  

There's a Twitter petition starting lol

RT @BJRains If you want Brendan Ryan on twitter, sign the petition and pass it on: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/brendanontwitter/

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Mar 30, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

How funny,

here is my signature from early this morning (1am?)

Name: Andi_k on Mar 30, 2010
Comments: Can you tweet and still stay out of the doghouse? If you can, please do.
80

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 30, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

if GDM can tweet, so can Boog

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

via BJRains tweet

Tony La Russa confirms he told Jaime Garcia he is fifth starter and David Freese that he is opening day third baseman.

....my quick smells like french toast...

Twitter: @mstreeter06

by mstreeter06 on Mar 30, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

OT: You know it's gonna be a good day

when the Fire Burnin in the Outfield Remix comes up when the music has been set to shuffle…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I was still unable to download that on my computer.

It makes me infinitely sad when I think about it.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are sadly missing out

I could probably send it to you over the emails or something like that if you’d like…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay.

Maybe try and Twitter it to me.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can send files over Twitter?

How would one go about that?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know.

I thought you were going to send me in a link. In this case I will just DM you my e-mail.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I have no idea where the link for that was

but it should be in your inbox…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

you can fax on twitter too. only problem is it takes so many tweets to send a single page.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

peter gammons

speaks from the grave,
realizes in the last paragraph that he’d failed to mention his vaunted Sawx

by _pistol_ on Mar 30, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Gammons does mention the Rockies

and Aaron Cook in in the best shape of his life
http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/aaron-cook-is-in-the-best-shape-of-his-life.html.php

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 30, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

now I'm confused
the new 1,000-calorie-per-day diet that has me looking as svelte as Prince Fielder on a bad day

is 1000 calories alot?

by _pistol_ on Mar 30, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

or a snack

for me anyway

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like 2/3 of a Monster Burger...

mmmmmm Type II Diabetes…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmm

now I want a jalapeño thickburger

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

the writer is jealous

1000 cal/day for writer = still fat.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if they're 4'8" tall.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 30, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

or if you've dropped only dropped 10 of 100

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

after seeing the majority of votes for Rasmus

I still contend that he is too young to be in the best shape of his life, since, physically he is already supposed to be in the best shape of his life

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, I voted for him without really thinking about it

But you’re absolutely right. Players who probably are actually in the best shape of their lives clearly cannot be “in the best shape of their lives.”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 30, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

best shape of his life (so far)

I voted for luddy because I thought Corby was the obvious choice, and I didn’t want to jinx Motte. I’m a paranoid contrarian. Anyway, isn’t the “so far” implied? Should always be a younger guy.

by Oedipa Maas on Mar 30, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget the OMS

I don’t think he’s there yet.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

referenced above

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

to quote myself
I voted for Ludwick
Mainly because Colby is too young to be in the best shape of his life. I think the minimum for "best shape" is probably 29 yrs old. OMS for the win

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMS=Old Man Strength?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 30, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes, I was agreeing

watch out for that OMS*

*Old Man Senility

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did we start talking about Al?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think that can be attributed to the "OM" part

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that was KRIC.

(Kenny Rogers Identity Crisis)

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 30, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow
yesterday’s game was the first one I managed to catch that made me feel like I was actually watching a baseball game, and not waiting for interesting prospects to come to bat.

i totally felt the same way

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ditto

I got all excited yesterday and made lots of posts on VEB before the game. I was just so excited to see Zordon throw, now that he’s the official fifth starter/top-no-such-thing-as-a pitching prospect.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zurco. Who the h* is Zordon?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 30, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's a floating head who bossed around the power rangers.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just going to go ahead and say it

Someone needs to make a blue, blurry floating headshot of Jaime floating in the Zordon tube.

If only I had Photoshop skillz, I’d have done this already. Maybe I’ll try to make something like this later.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think this is a whole lot of premature nicknaming

but I’m not about to leave a guy hanging on Zordon.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry

I won’t force it. Can’t force nicknames. For now, it’s just CGirly and me who are going with Zordon.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I voted for Luddy

but now that you mention it, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Albert win the triple crown

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 30, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Damnit, Dan.

Now I can feel a cold coming on. I’ve seen infected websites before, but this is absurd.

Thanks heaps.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 30, 2010 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry man

I really shouldn’t have tried to come in to work today.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 30, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Respectwick

Just read SI’s Spring Postcard on the Cardinals. (Here)

It’s probably not too far off for a quick summary, but this part bugs me.

Rasmus has 20 home run-20 stolen base potential and should provide a huge boost to a lineup that has Pujols and Holliday but little else.

This was written yesterday. Yes, Luddy was down last year but I think he deserves more mention in the press. I hope he has another big season.

And clearly, Mr. Chen has not paid close enough attention or he would know Stavinoha will carry this team.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 12:45 PM EDT reply actions  

true

he is a Cardinal after all

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 30, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

hopefully a redbird heh

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 30, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question about Rasmus I've been meaning to ask

A lot of stuff on Rasmus says the same 2 things.

1. He lost 25 pounds
2. He put on 15 pounds over the winter.

So, compared to spring training last year, is he 15 pound heavier or 10 pounds lighter?

by sdrone on Mar 30, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's probably lighter

He said he was training more for endurance and less for bulk this offseason, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he was slightly less jacked this spring.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

man I'm not sure I like that

He was skinny in the first place. heh

by sdrone on Mar 30, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he put some muscle on?

hopefully didn’t lose 25 pounds of muscle and gained 10 pounds of fried food

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 30, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that first year of parenthood...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both

He takes some really big shits.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Matt Leach

Sometimes there’s just not anything to write about, so you just write some fluff.

“For [Insert Any Team Here], healthy key to 2010 success”

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else getting a Media error on MLB.TV?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Never mind.

It’s back.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the most exciting PA in baseball

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Allen Craig HAS to make this team

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

so what'd I miss?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

yikes, twitter had an boner over them.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every once in a while

A team signs a pitching contract that is lucrative…and everyone knows it’s going to be a horrible disaster. The Zito contract. That one Russ Ortiz contract. And the Oliver Perez contract.

God, Oliver Perez is such a mess of a player. And they’re paying him $11M per year through 2011.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Vernon Wells is probably worse than all those combined.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, yes

But he’s not a pitcher.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh good point

I should probably read the entire post before I babble on. :)

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno

when they signed Wells, he was actually good. Yes, it was a lot of money, but he was a pretty good young player in his prime.

Oliver Perez is garbage and always has been.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 31, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm reminded of Hampton's contract with the Rockies

and Kevin Brown’s with the Dodgers.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 30, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pavano?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter sends a message

“You, Alex Cora, got $2M and a $2M vesting option? And we signed Felipe Lopez for $1M plus incentives? That’s silly, you’re making too much money. I’m gonna have to even that out a bit.”

* PLUNK *

“That was for Floppy.”

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

plunking based on sabermetrics would be totally awesome

or something.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Adding onto this

Given their contracts, here’s a fun stat:

Lopez 2009 WAR: 4.9
Cora 2009 WAR: -0.1

God, that Lopez signing was awesome.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Now add in the draft pick that we’ll get if he ends up being type B and it looks even better.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Matt Pagnozzi is going to go north with the Cardinals"

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

don't trust my news today

but hearing it sucks.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the last thing we need is 3 catchers

the sidebar said Yadi may play on opening day, Larue can handle things for a day or two if not

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 30, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be okay if LaRue starts snowconing, though.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

if by nefarious

you mean awesome

nothing says Cardinals like a little taxidermy and stick-on staches

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm vaguely mad at Freese

we were SO CLOSE to Mottie catching that last game.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

F to the L to A to the GGED!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mets announcers don't know how smooth Colby is

No respect. None whatsoever. Say we need to get someone in CF who is rangey and plays “Willie Mays” defense.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

That is awful.

I am going to have to give them a piece of my mind. Do they have one of those e-mail question things?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then guess who's going to Florida.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll pay your gas money

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

What the shit?!?

Shouldn’t every team be trying to get a CFer like Willie Mays?

by Mister Eff on Mar 30, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

My personal favorite that I read earlier this year,

was that the Cards needed a .400 OBP guy in the leadoff spot….Well who the hell doesn’t?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things I've learned today:

- The Cardinals season depends on their players being healthy
- The Cardinals need an awesome leadoff guy to bat leadoff
- The Cardinals could use Willie Mays in center field

Good lord, let’s just start the season already.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

we're screwed!

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This comment brightened my day undescribably

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 30, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And when have we...

… ever had a .400 OBP guy batting leadoff? Not in the last 30 years, anyway – Lonnie’s .381 in 1982 and Vina’s .380 in 2000 are the highest we’ve had in that span. Frankly, I’m not sure we’ve ever had a .400 OBP guy batting leadoff; our .400 OBP guys are generally middle-of-the-order guys like Musial and Pujols and even Keith Hernandez.

by Jmodene on Mar 30, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Smiths and CFs

Reggie Smith was really good.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 30, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are only a handful of them in the history of the game really

Wade Boggs
Rickey Henderson
Ty Cobb
Tris Speaker
Jackie Robinson

That’s pretty much the list, and of those guys, only Henderson spent the majority of his career in the leadoff spot.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Recced.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

As well

YOU ARE OUT of you kuku fufu mine craker laker Flaber baber FUNKI chunki brain-abayarde

by mob16151 on Mar 30, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

big curve fells Wright

Wright has a sad.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Mets dugout is gettin' on CB

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

stop cutting to the practice game! give me more carp!

i hope, for SNY’s sake, that carpenter does not know about this.

PLUNKS all around.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

but it's the most exciting practice game in the world

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

Oh, look, we are back on field 7 for another EXCITING AB

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 30, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's not wearing his socks again today!!

WTF is going on here?!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he hit a dinger, so I guess it's okay.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's horrible.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, he's never going to wear them again.

he homered today while not wearing them.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

noooooooooooooooooooo

THE HUMANITY

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaaand a double.

love to see Boog hitting well. the socks will be missed.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

nooooooooooooooooo

[weep]

I can’t handle a cards team where the only guy showing sock is Brad Penny

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't worry, he has a sock pattern.

They’ll be back.

He didn’t wear them up yesterday because he didn’t start.

I’ve been studying his sock pattern for years. last year on Opening Day, the went up and down FOUR times within the game. I even wrote it on my scorecard.

We will see the socks again; never fear.

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"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

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by andi_k on Mar 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

make that *they*

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"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

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by andi_k on Mar 30, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks andi_k

i feel better now. and i’m being completely serious. i’d hate to see the socks go.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problem; I'm here to document and over-analyze player behavior

Now that Rick is gone ( *sniffle * ), I have more time for Boog.

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by andi_k on Mar 31, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey andi

twas suggested that the Boog posts/shots go under a new BoogTV tag; for fanshots just type into that first line for homemade tags.

what do you think?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 31, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad idea. Next time I will add that tag as well as player name

When I think about it I will edit previous vids, if they are still edit-able two weeks after posting

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by andi_k on Mar 31, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

they can be edited indefinitely

just not the comments

I’ll get around to doing mine. i’m hoping this means the vids won’t get buried in the player page, which has frighteningly little space before items fall off.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 31, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't know if i'm impressed or terrified of you right now

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by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

YOU SHOULD BE BOTH

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by andi_k on Mar 31, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

done

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by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're getting screwed.

SCREWED.

I’m sorry.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cincinapolis?

haha, Mike.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

shocker!!

did Jayson Werth lose the beard?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Newsflash SNY: I don't care about the Mets' other game.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG!

Dinger Camp- Success?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

only if he does it to someone other than the Mets.

then I’ll put my stamp of approval on Dinger Camp.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

which will result in garage shenanigans

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

lusty boos for Ollie Perez

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

and then lusty applause when he gets a good hit

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shannon and Rooney are rollin'

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

can I flag Goold?

    And Ryan makes its three. How many homers could Boog hit if he only played the #Mets? Maybe Pujols had a point. #stlcards 2 minutes ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Marecek = awesome.

  JohnMarecek The @memphisredbirds now up to 7 runs in the inning off Johan Santana. Sugar Shane is up again. #stlcards #hpgf less than a minute ago via Seesmic

  JohnMarecek I want to see Rod Barajas and Yadier Molina in a match race. #stlcards 7 minutes ago via Seesmic

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

No, it's a trick question.

No one wins because the guy timing the race gets tired and falls asleep before its over.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

The ground loses.

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by hazel on Mar 30, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They would finish in a dead heat

for 3rd and 4th behind the pregnant woman who happened to wander onto the race course…

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by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perez pulled

Mets fans cheer lustily

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Bombs doubles!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

This just in: Bay is bad at defense

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by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

el oh el

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

sac from LaRue, wild throw, Freese scores

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

nice.

Oquendo chucks foul ball to fan around the sixth or seventh row.

Cardinals fan.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Esteban Yan

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by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

D.) None of the above

the National league has never won an all-star game

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

The all-knowing Wiki sez Dizzy

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 30, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn carp looks good today

and he’s pitching pretty well, too. hey-o!

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

2 BB and a HBP

Hi-May does not approve.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now 3 BB

Time to swap Carp with Lohse in the rotation.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 30, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Wright strikeout reminded me

I checked his spring training stats; at least he’s hitting. For some reason i’d feel bad if he had another crappy year.

Then again a) he has to go hit at Citi field and b) this could easily be fixed if he, say, ran over Beltran.

by sdrone on Mar 30, 2010 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

neither is Citibank

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

walks. boo.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

when they say "Albert Pujols did not make the trip to Port St. Lucie"

I wish they’d finish the sentence with something. Like “He’s working on his knitting today.”

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

When Albert works on his knitting

all he has to do is stare at them, and out of fear, the trembling needles work themselves.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 30, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

99.99!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Mets outfield

is really busy this afternoon

by GasHouseMang on Mar 30, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Boog double!

“Ryan did not swing hard enough to break a glass window, but he made just enough contact to get past Jason Bay.”

so much in that one.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

HBPwick

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Luddy assures trainers et al that he is in fact Ryan Fucking Ludwick.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

wow

7 runs already. where’d those come from

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

HRs

By Ludwick, Holliday, and Ryan. RBIs by Mather and LaRue.

by Evilfrog on Mar 30, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, cul

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would say craig and stavi

based on their hitting, but mather can play CF, so he almost needs to make the team.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stav and Craig, right now, maybe, I guess

I don’t know. Luddy for backup CF, perhaps, maybe, I dunno, I guess. Who knows.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thought

Is it necessarily a given that Bombs makes the big club? Stav and Craig are both having great springs (SSS, I know) and Mather is posting pedestrian numbers coming off an injury. I understand that he’s the backup CF, but is it possible that Stav and Craig go to STL and Mather goes to Memphis to get regular playing time, while Luddy is the backup CF?

Is this uber-Nexdef’d?

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by jd is legend on Mar 30, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

It's problematic if Colby gets a non-DL injury

because they either have to play Luddy out there regularly or DL Colby to call up Mather.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Mar 30, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

or swap stav and mather

assuming stav inevitably shows the true fat miles

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

swap stav and mather

if Colby gets nicked. Otherwise play Colby everyday. Would love to see Colby in the lineup everyday.

by jjray on Mar 30, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or have Greene playing CF

Not sure that makes sense though….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think if greene had earned his way onto the club as a utility infielder, it might make a little sense.

but if we’re going to have lopez and lugo, mather probably hits better than greene and probably fields CF better.

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by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think Mather and Craig make the most sense, since all of the remaining guys are right handed hitters. If John Jay was in the mix, I might actually be arguing for him because of his left handedness.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't picture a scenario where mather doesn't make it

he will also be the designated pinch-runner, besides the rest of his assets.

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by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just pictured an adoring crowd breaking some barricades and crushing him.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

they wouldn't catch joe

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by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see no reason why Craig would not go to the big club

I think you’re doing the whole process a disservice if he doesn’t go. He’s knocked the shit out of the ball all spring and done what is necessary to earn a roster spot — there’s no conceivable reason why Stavinoha should get a spot over him.

Mather is different though. He proved he could play three outfield positions. He’s proved he can hit major league pitching. Just like Tyler Greene making the roster as a utility infielder with little offensive output, Mather makes the team as a utility outfielder/corner infielder with a decent right handed bat.

Stavinoha is the odd man out in my opinion. He’s had a great spring, but he can really only play LF, he’s proved he can’t hit big league pitching over the last two seasons, so why should he get the benefit of the doubt over someone like Craig who really deserves his shot?

I see what you’re saying and it makes sense in theory, I just don’t think our ballclub is better with Stav over Mather and our ballclub is definitely NOT better with Craig at AAA. That’s just a fact.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I 100% agree with everything you've said

If it were up to me, the decision would have already been made. I’m just guessing what the Cardinals brass is going to do.

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by jd is legend on Mar 30, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with everything except
he’s proved he can’t hit big league pitching over the last two seasons

The guy only has 152 PA in the majors, I don’t really think that’s conclusive evidence.

That’s not to say he hasn’t been suckity suck suck, though.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

True on the 152 PA's

But generally you have to do something in those 152 PA’s that show that you can play at the MLB level, and I’ve probably seen at least 80% of those AB’s and I haven’t seen it yet.

He just seems like a AAAA player. He kills AAA pitching, can’t hit in the big leagues. Craig may not be any better, but we should definitely find out.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

only thing wrong w/ mather's spring

is no multi-hit games. i think he’s making the club

by mikey_mac on Mar 30, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh whew

I was wondering what Jose Reyes was doing on an empty back field.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess Carpenter

is working his “with men on base” part of his game…

by Evilfrog on Mar 30, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

probably nexdefd

but the pirates will bat the pitcher eighth this year

by adiueordie on Mar 30, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

ball coming back in gets past Boog

Carp backs him up

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: fantasy trade

is Zambrano for Colby a good trade? I, obviously, will get Colby.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

who are your other pitchers and OFs?

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

OF: dejesus, choo, torii hunter, grandy, jay bruce

P: pinero, beckett, matusz, wandy, jonathan sanchez, wade davis, JAIME GARCIA

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd do the swap

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd do it

might help your HR numbers if he does what we hope he does

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't do it

Choo, Granderson, and Jay Bruce are money. Hunter is due to regress from 2009, but is useful, and DD is a good fifth OF.

On your starting staff, however, you look a little thin. At his best, Pineiro is a #2-#3 fantasy pitcher because he doesn’t strike anyone out, and he’s moving to the AL. Matusz has upside, but he’s a young guy in the AL East. Wandy is good, I guess, but scares me a little. Sanchez has potential, but again, he’d need to break out to be useful. Davis ditto. Garcia is, realistically, a very low-tier fantasy pitcher.

Your OF is fine the way it is. Your pitching is going to need a lot to go right to be a strong staff, and you may end up with a few total duds. Zambrano is something of a known quantity, he’ll get you strikeouts, and serve as probably your #2.

So I say no.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, i misread

you need big z more than you need colby

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

we start 5 OFs

we have weird scoring because its a points league. but yeah, there is a huge drop off between zambrano and sanchez, who would be the next highest scorer. colby is projected to be better than hunter and bruce, but not by much on either count. you’re right, my pitching sux.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dunno

what stats you use, but in the real world, z is not that much better than sanchez

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

His K's make him more valuable

And he’s a lot better pitcher when he’s on, even in real life.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's true

but he’s inconsistent enough, especially the last couple years, that you can’t bank on him being “on”

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't sanchez get a lot of K's?

or is that who you’re talking about?

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

he projects for more than z

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by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've picked him up in a couple leagues

with that hope

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

projections

                                                        IP QS W L S K BB HA ERA WHIP
Zambrano, Carlos SP CHC 200.0 32 15 9 0 167 85 179 3.60 1.32
Sanchez, Jonathan O. SP SF 180.0 30 11 11 0 180 90 165 4.15 1.42

 they look pretty close, but we get points for IP and QS, so that could be the difference. there is like a 100 point difference between these two. in reality, they will probably end up around the same.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not have them both!

You’re better off with Beckett, Zambrano, Sanchez, Wandy, and Pineiro. Matusz and Davis offer big upside.

Your OF can be the five guys you have now, plus Delmon Young and Headley are decent upside bets as well.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you're saying i don't need colby?

damn. i just think he’s going to be way better than CBS thinks, and I could make a really good deal at this point in the season.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Having Colby is always good

I just think your pitching isn’t that deep, and you shouldn’t trade from it to add depth to depth in the OF.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This really isn't an argument about the deal itself

More of an argument about the roster matrix that you have on your club in relation to the players at hand.

In a real life example, the Cardinals wouldn’t trade Yadier Molina for, say, Casey Kotchman. While Kotchman is likely to be a good player this year, he would never play for the Cardinals and the Cards have no depth at catcher.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would bet money

that Hunter and Bruce will end up being better fantasy players this year than Colby does.

Hunter will probably hit 25+ homers again, and Bruce is a 25+ homer threat. They’re also better bets to drive in and score runs since they hit in the middle of their orders.

If it’s a points league like I’m thinking of, you’re going to need as much high quality pitching as you can get, so I don’t think trading Z, who’s going to strike out 175+ hitters is a good idea for a guy with only TUP (Tremendous Upside Potential) as his selling point

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it's Jay Bruce

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by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

they project bruce for like 30 HRs i think

i just don’t trust it.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hit 22 HR in 387 PA last year

That’s 31 homers over 550 PA, for what it’s worth.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it's Jay Bruce

I have limitations when drafting. probably why I’m inconsistent year-to-year.

I never draft anyone from Boston.

I draft Cubs in hopes of jinxing them.

I never draft players I personally, whether for reason or not, dislike.
(which can be overridden by rule 2)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

DOES NOT COMPUTE
I draft Cubs
I never draft players I … dislike

Abort ( A ), Retry ( R ), Fail ( F )?

by all4tookie on Mar 30, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

He'll hit 25+

and he might hit 40 if he’s healthy.

Look at the ballpark that he plays in if nothing else. That pennant porch in LF that they made for Griffey? That’s now the Bruce/Votto Pennant Porch.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

RF?

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 30, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that's what I meant...

GAH!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah its really not.

i’m going to tell him no. i’ll counter with pinero and see if he bites.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There you go!

Now THAT would be a good deal for you. I’m going to guess Joel regresses hard this year.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know. i just realized that.

glad I realized it before making this trade. thanks VEB!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know I was late to the party

just thought maybe ONE more comment would sway the decision :)

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 30, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think she means Victor

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Mar 30, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a joke

Is he even around anymore?

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Mar 30, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

carlos is the only zambrano in the majors. “carlos?” was a joke as well. it just wasn’t funny.

by adiueordie on Mar 30, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at the table, carlos

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't even care anymore

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa, there was a Dunc visit?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

carp has switched to the curve

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

bad news: Stav in RF

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

worse news: Carp + walks.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Lopez fail

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

personally, i would rather see carp give up 6 runs than 6 walks.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 2:56 PM EDT reply actions  

id agree

at least in a spring game.

by Evilfrog on Mar 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXTREME FAIL.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Freese boots it

LaRue possibly down.

STACHE DOWN. STACHE DOWN.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

almost extreme win by boog

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

picture proof

of LaRue feeling no pain. he is the master of pain.
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/photos/cards-twins-official-game-thread/689097

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 1, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just tried it, and it goes to the LaRue picture

same one on the April Fools post

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Apr 2, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wut

Why was Jason LaRue behind home plate?

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

was he not paying attention?

boog made a hell of a play anyway.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did

Pagnozzi pay off the mets?

While Spinning.

Yes... I'm the annoying guy that over-uses ellipses.

by streamman on Mar 30, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

oh my god

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

OH MY FUCKING GOD

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

PAGNOZZI IS OUR NUMBER 1 CATCHER

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The horror! The horror!

That’s a book quote if anyone remembers where that is from.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, don't go all Conrad on us.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahaha, well done.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

BE OKAY, PORNSTACHE

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

OPENING DAY CLEANUP HITTER

"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan

by jd is legend on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert will never get another IBB in his life!

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

/runs around in circles with hands over ears mumbling gibberish

Take that, Winter!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

/runs around in circles with hands over ears mumbling gibberish

Take that, Winter!

by Bring Back Tommy Herr! on Mar 30, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

him too and three

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh noes

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

possibly spiked

but there’s no blood. because he’s made of … whatever LaRue is made of.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

turkey sausage and bourbon, i'm guessing?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Now --

I don’t care who y’are, that’s funny.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 30, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

deer meat

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

mmm meat pies.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

venison jerky & bourbon

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bourbon sounds tasty...

sadly my only mixing options are Pepsi and Cherry Coke… that as a poor soda choice on my part…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 30, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

jack & coke is as close as you get

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not, i meant was that drink & coke is as close as you get to mixing bourbon with soda

i agree with you, you don’t mix bourbon with soda

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

guys, this is tough

i have this minibar here taunting me and you’re all talking about booze…

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

open it up, it's on your firms dime right?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably

i’m not sure i would turn that receipt in, though. ketel one is freaking 9.50 for one of those little things. this bottle of wine is only $22 though….

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

a little wine, a little lost, sounds like IHB's gonna have a good night

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't there a liquor store near by???

I say it’s time for a road trip…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't have a car!

very, very sad.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you out by an airport or something?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

downtown sacramento.

i have no idea if there’s a liquor store around anywhere. i guess i could find out. but will you guys stay up and hang out with me when i’m all shitfaced?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

always

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've got no job to go to tomorrow...

granted I also don’t have any beer… this could cause problems.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha ha....

you’re out of beer.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do have jack jim and maker's

but don’t feel like drinking straight whisky or bourbon tonite…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't even know who you are anymore

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

hahah

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

You left for awhile and I lost my way...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

well i'm back, now DRINK!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

We just went through the fact I'm understocked...

And I’m drinking tomorrow nite for trivia anyways… trying to take it easy in my old age.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

make some with cheap substitutes.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

neither do i!

ceasar chavez day. my only problem is figuring out how to open the wine. i don not want to walk around downtown at night by myself.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

if they have corked wine in the mini bar,

they have a corkscrew at the desk at least. I would assume.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

how can i tell without moving the bottle?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

there are sensors.

they automatically charge you if you move anything. to prevent people from drinking it and then replacing it for cheaper.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would love to get drunk

And pretend I am Indiana Jones. Where I have to quickly swap out a bottle of booze for a bar of soap I mashed together to look like a bottle.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 31, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

What you need to do is...

get a bag of sand that weighs the same as the bottle… then do a quick shift. Should solve all the problems. Nothing bad will happen from it.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't that what internet friends are for?

To get drunk with so you are not classified as an alcoholic that drinks alone in his mothers basement, (Sips)

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 31, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is when matty's & i liquor delivery service would come in handy

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There are so many delivery options

you could make tons of money off of… booze… crappy fast food for stoners or lazy folk… I really need to figure out how to make money off of this idea…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

no doubt, we think local laws need to be changed

because we don’t think many would allow it for some reason

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure it could go down in Missouri

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mizzou's down for almost everything right?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

And luckily

they have that meth problem cleaned right up because of it… time to move onto the next big problem in Missouri… the Royals.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

how in the...

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 31, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

not kidding, i felt like a terrorist trying to buy some

allergy meds there a couple years back

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Illinois did that for like 2 months...

now it’s pretty much back to normal. At least around Chicago.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's my understanding

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Vodka is Vodka to me

I never could pay a bunch for Vodka when I am happy with well Vodka. I divert booze money to Bourbon.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 31, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

gin gin gin gin ginny ginny gin

also scotch.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 31, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is no gin.

we have:

absolut : 8.50
ketel one : 9.00
chivas regal: 8.50
jack: 8.50
bacardi: 8.50
chardonnay: 22

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

is there not a bar in this hotel?

As a general rule I refuse to stay somewhere that doesn’t have an onsite lounge.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

two bars, actually.

but that would require me to get dressed and leave you guys. and lost.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah that doesnt make sense

i either have no pants and no booze OR pants and booze. you know, if i went downstairs, i would probably end up paying the same with tip and everything. and then i’d have to be fighting off all the guys…chardonnay it is!

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

fighting off all the guys

look at you!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

You'd really be fighting them off

if you went down there without pants on… women in skirts can be very attractive…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't get me started

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'M PISSED.

i pulled out that chard, and its a mini bottle. there was no way to know that before i pulled it out of the minibar. now I have to pay for it.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would be too, what a rip off

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Put pants on

and go to the desk and say you thought it was a full sized bottle and refuse to pay for a mini? If it’s still cold and unopened I don’t see how they could charge you for it.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

this....

and while your down there get a couple of drinls to bring back to your room.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just put it back

If you didn’t open it. The Mini-Bar sensors detects when an items is removed but also when it is put back. If you put it back quickly enough it will void the purchase.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 31, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

IHB might not like that though

i’d recommend the chard for her

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think i get the most drunk for my buck with the chard.

but i dont want to have to ask the front desk to come open it for me.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have a beer mouth

with the occasional mixed drink to wash down the beer taste

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 31, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since we're talking whiskey,

my buddy bought me a $32 glass of whiskey this weekend. Middleton’s Irish whiskey. WOW!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's $250 bucks a bottle!

damn, you’ve got a nice friend

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

when in Rome,,,,

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

...


when in Rome

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 31, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was funny,

we’re sitting in the lounge of this fancy hotel in SLC wearing jeans and tee shirts, and my friend is saying, “I can’t remember the name of this whiskey, but if I see it I’m getting us some.” We were paying our bill to leave and he spotted it, and ordered us 2. The bartender rang it up and voided it out twice, then looked at us and said, “This is $32 a shot!”
My buddy calmly replies, “I know.”

What an amazing glass of whiskey.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

it better have been

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I paid him back in volume of Jameson's over the course of the night.

And then we almost fought. So endeth another whiskey adventure.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like how guys can get in fights

But somehow the next day all is forgiven. While girls will play nice while plotting murderous plots behind each others backs

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 31, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

careful,,,careful,,,

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

He said nothing about stabbing...

she’ll never catch on… aw crap now I just went and said something about it…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was never here

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed....

It was all laughs the next morning.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sensing

that someone’s getting an ass full of it…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was never here!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 31, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

WHen you are in SLC look up my buddy Dave's place the Piper Down on State Street

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 31, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Missed that one while we were there....

Salt Lake is a brutal place to be an alcoholic. I enjoyed the Utah against porn Seminar at my hotel though.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

You should have handed out

something free that would have stirred the pot…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking aboot grabbing the lap top

and surfing porn in the hallway outside the room.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

But laptop speakers don't give

the full aural experience of porn…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

headphones

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

man, i really need some wireless headphones

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have had two pairs before, they are really nice.

you can go about 40 feet from your computer with them.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Turtle Beach???

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 31, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

i prefer my studio monitors

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 31, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

these are mine

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 31, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can't imagine spending that much

on headphones. are bose any good? you always see those commercials for them & they look good

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

bose are okay

but for your money, you can do a lot better

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 31, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

what's better?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

ausio technica or sennheiser

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 31, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sennheiser's are great

my buddy in the Ars Nova singers gave me his old pair

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 31, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

you really need a good amp to drive them though

i have some hd600’s

most valuable thing I own

worth every penny

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 31, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I need a headphone amp for my sennheisers

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 31, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

good luck

tubes are cool (I’m big on analog if you haven’t noticed, and they glow!)

i got a cheap solid state amp though, definately due for an upgrade

I hate how sound equipment so restrictively expensive

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 31, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

good to know

i’m writing this down

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

my dad swore by bose

but i think it was only because he was a huge paul harvey fan

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really want a pair of those.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Think you missed what I was going for there...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The way I picture him doing it

is with the volume turned up nice and loud… that way people walking by would have no doubt what’s going on… At least that’s how I’d do it… There’s also a bad pun in there… It’s no fun having to explain jokes, perhaps I should do a better job making them…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

mudflaps

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 30, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's the one

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

silver lining?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Murphy injures himself between second and third

GOB justice is swift

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't believe cody is holding the draft up

I mean does he know how to show up?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 30, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought you guys had a time limit to pick?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

roughly 22 hours.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 30, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody has taken the last 10 or so

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 30, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe someone should knock on his door

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

muhahahaha

but really sorry for the hold up

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 30, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

At this rate I will have finished my VEB yahoo

draft before the third round of this one

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 30, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

chitown's draft?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 30, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a timer, it's just a 20 hour one. or 2hour one between 6-10.

or something like that, dan has me confused sometimes with his setup.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 30, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

beware the ides of march!

link

question (compound format)

A) larue is pretty much ready for the season, right?
B) there is a non-zero chance he has to take up the first several games at catcher, right?
C)larue should be familiar with all the pitchers (except penny and garcia), right?
D) these games still don’t count, right?
E) why are wearing him out and exposing him to injury by starting all these games?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

so it was YOU

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

you son of a gun

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

JoeStrauss
  
Cards backup C Jason LaRue leaves game after being hit on glove hand by Jason Bay’s slide. Matt Pagnozzi now starter pro tem. #stlcards

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

"pro tem" is latin for "teh suck."

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

effin' Jason Bay

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

eff

http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2010/03/game-day-larue-out-after-collision-at-plate/

what a trainwreck

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tatis PH

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

"Ryan could throw from six feet underwater, standing on his head, backhand..."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

You guys are all overreacting

The marginal loss in offense and defense from Jason LaRue to Matt Pagnozzi isn’t great. Pags is probably what, a .220-.230 hitter in the majors? LaRue’s a .240-.250 hitter. That’s not going to make a huge difference in the short span of time that Molina’s out. In fact, there’s a reasonable chance that he would OUTPERFORM LaRue by quite a bit in such a small sample size.

Also; can we stop for a second and think how AMAZING that play Boog made was? He backed up 3rd, sprinted after a booted ball, and made a PERFECT throw to LaRue. I think his health is a linchpin of this season because his defensive play can’t be replaced

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely. Do we have any word on what he injured?

He didn’t really get hit hard

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

wrist

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrists and strained obliques

CURSE YOU GOBS

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

pagnozzi is a .210-.220 hitter in the minors

he’ll be lucky to break the mendoza line in the majors

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

plus, y'know

larue is a good catcher and stuff

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but by most accounts I've read, Pagnozzi is fine as a catcher as well

Even if those accounts are out of LaDuncan’s mouth…

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've heard that, too

but i’ve seen the opposite

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

big helping of REC for you

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is the poster child for

adequosity.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 30, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is, of course, the correct answer.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 30, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll rec it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't put carp either

or, for that matter…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 30, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kiko Calero pitching

Tatis stays in

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Holliday avenges his dude.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

What he do'd?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

two homers in the game

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Accaptable.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 30, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

second made them freak out

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

matty has his timing

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm. hooray?

can’t get excited right now.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

some Craig guy is hitting well.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Cheese bats for Diner.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

They're talking about Strauss' article

And how Colby felt isolated

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a K

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hollijack.

That’s a pair on the day.

Also, Craig singles.

by goslinkygo on Mar 30, 2010 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Hard singles

Not Stav-singles

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boggs pitching

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip FTW

strike throw to Craig

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

We need to have a drinking game for this

1 shot every time they call Albert “ridiculous”
1 shot every time they mention Skip’s conversion
1 shot every time Franklin allows a baserunner

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

That wouldn't be much of a game

as much as it would be getting wasted.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 30, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh god.

I would have Cirrhosis by the end of the night.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahahaha

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 30, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

GREAT play by Skip

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

schu looking like he was born to play 2B

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

he was

he was just thought playing in the majors would be no fun if he let it be easy.

While Spinning.

Yes... I'm the annoying guy that over-uses ellipses.

by streamman on Mar 30, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

wtf

Bryan Anderson must suck or something if Pags is going to be our opening day catcher

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 30, 2010 3:27 PM EDT reply actions  

compute that thought with what it means for his trade value.

While Spinning.

Yes... I'm the annoying guy that over-uses ellipses.

by streamman on Mar 30, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

so will Boggs plunk Bay?

or is this going to get interesting come next month’s Mets series?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

guess not

Boggs fail.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

bay plunked boggs.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every Time I See the Name Bay....

…I think East Bay Ray. Maybe I’m just an old cow….
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 30, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

;=8)

“Tonight’s the night that we got the truck
We’re goin’ downtown gonna beat up drunks
Your turn to drive I’ll bring the beer
It’s the late, late shift no one to fear
And ride, ride how we ride
We ride, looooowride "

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 30, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's go, memphis!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Boog's homer was against the wind, apparently.

to his same spot. I think all of his homers are within 30 feet of each other.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 30, 2010 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

do we have any more ST games against NY? tony should bat boog cleanup just once.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 30, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hope not

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

who the shit

is antone dejesus

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

is that he changed his name from Anthony of Jesus. It being Easter season and all, he probably didn’t want anyone to be confused.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 30, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he plays for quad cities

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 30, 2010 10:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

What am I supposed to say to someone who insists that projections like CHONE and PECOTA are worthless

and that I need to use my own “feelings and instincts” to determine a player’s value?

/facepalm

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

well

the projections systems don’t have a whole lot of worth. it’s just giving you an idea. you should put your own reasoning and context into it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

sure, but they tend to be pretty accurate.

he compared it by saying he could predict the end of the world will be tomorrow or that the nationals will win 100 games, and it wouldn’t mean anything.

obviously CHONE is based on something tangible, not just a BS theory.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

the difference being

the rigorous math applied to these projections systems and your friend just being dense and pulling something out of his ass to make a point he doesn’t fully understand

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems to me he's arguing against yourself

What if my instincts and feelings say that the Nats are going to win triple digits?

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

rec’d

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

green

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 30, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tell them

Your feelings and instincts are busy telling you how big of a [poopybrain] he/she is.

by mojowo11 on Mar 30, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

but

the answer is that thos eprojections systems are supposed to be the most statistically probable outcome for each player.

ask him if he thinks he’s smarter than science. that will shut him up

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you read that book?

It’s so obnoxious

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 30, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

he says statistics aren't science.

this guy is my friend, but i really hate him sometimes.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh
Science (from the Latin scientia, meaning “knowledge”) is, in its broadest sense, any systematic knowledge-base or prescriptive practice that is capable of resulting in a correct prediction, or reliably-predictable type of outcome. In this sense, science may refer to a highly skilled technique, technology, or practice, from which a good deal of randomness in outcome has been removed

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean

does he just not think math is a science?

if so, does he think he’s smarter than math?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 30, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright, i tried this.

we’ll see what happens. its very helpful to have input from someone else when i’m arguing with this guy because i get too pissed off at his arrogance.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya cause it sounds like arguing w/ a wall

i honestly would suggest dropping it but you have more patience that I it seems

by FunkeeC on Mar 30, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right.

i don’t really care what he thinks anyway. i’m a lawyer, so i automatically win.

/mostly kidding…mostly.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i've told you before to get new friends

you’re only hurting yourself by not following my advice

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is that same guy, too.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're only hurting yourself

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps i should rephrase.

he’s the only person i know IRL that follows baseball as closely as i do.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

if we send you cody or zoom zoom to talk baseball

will you stop talking to this guy?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

am I being reassigned?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 30, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

possibly, we're gonna mull it over

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 30, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

you dont think cody is just as bad?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

shhhhhh!!!! he's supposed to think this is a good thing!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love America.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

greatest country evar

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

mine's better

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

your country was a rough draft

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 31, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK YEAH!!!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

i have a f yeah pick i wish i could share

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The email address is in the profile...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not porn, just not VEB safe

oh & check your emails

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

me too

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would say it's safe if you kept the pic in link form.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

no way

i don’t want to the women to know i have that

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to figure out

what we would be offended if it isn’t porn.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 31, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

now i want to know.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

too bad gdm is being sexist.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sceered

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

A question mark?

That’s offensive?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 31, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

?

?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 31, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm Ron Burgandy?

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 31, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is this not showing up?

It is for me.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I open it in a new tab

it says this gmail account is not available.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 31, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

here

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

So it's Anime porn.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 31, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

What Clemsongirl said.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 31, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

FTFY

so it’s anime porn art?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

That is not anime porn. Trust me.

When you’ve seen anime porn, you know it. And you don’t feel sort of okay about it, either.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 31, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

They're racists,

that’s what.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 31, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's not how I meant that!

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 31, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i would never have guessed there was anime porn.

the things you learn on VEB.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are things

that cannot be unseen, IHB.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 31, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

and they involve tentacles

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Mar 31, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

And now. I suggest we end this line of conversation.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 31, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

(shudders)

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 31, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

really?

you are internet-sheltered

you should learn about rule 34

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 31, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

please enlighten me pj

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

if it exists,

there is porn of it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 31, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think you realize what you're asking

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

rule 34

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 31, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

It exists.

It is called hentai, it can be found relatively quickly, and I would recommend you never, ever, ever seek it out.

And at the very least, you should respect the fact I have a rather high threshold for weird sex stuff. So trust me on this one.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 31, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never would have guessed...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Toasters and tomatoes, sure.

But I draw the line at rape fantasies as written by H.P. Lovecraft.

Now everyone knows where my line is.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 31, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't worry, i don't want to see it.

but whats the big deal? why is it so freaky?

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

you'll have to see it to really get it

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay,

here’s one of my patented Aaron formulas. To make hentai, take:

Junior High school, plus
Porn star anatomical incorrectness, plus
Rape fantasies, plus
the Cthulu Cycle, plus
A bathtub full of various fluids.

Basically, it’s a bunch of underaged girls being forcibly mated with by big giant octopus type creatures. Lots of tentacle penetration and screaming. That sort of stuff.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 31, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

not sure what the cthulu cycle is, but i get the point.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cthulu Cycle

It’s one of the big, overarching storylines H.P. Lovecraft put together. Lots of unnameable horrors from beyond the rim of the universe that drive people insane whenever they catch a glimpse of said horror. Good stuff, actually; Lovecraft provided the archetypes for much of our modern scifi horror.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 31, 2010 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I've seen this porn

I am not quite sure what to think of the friend who showed me it

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 31, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

are all your comments in this thread

solely about hentai?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's the only thing

I can bring myself to care about at this hour of the night.

See, now you don’t know what to think of me again.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 31, 2010 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

you'll have to do more than that

to get me to change my high opinion of you red

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

Don’t you worry. I’ll think of something.

It is odd, though, what I actually deign to discuss. I rarely comment at all, and when I do it’s almost never about anything baseball-related. I’m not sure if that’s because I put all my sports energy into coming up with stuff to write every single day or because I don’t actually like baseball nearly as much as I think I do.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 31, 2010 5:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

never say what you just said

we will forget it, and just never say it again.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 31, 2010 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is true...

Sophomore year in the dorms the roommate decided to fire up some anime porn which I caught out of the corner of my eye… decided it was then time to quickly wander off.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

To the privacy of your own dorm room?

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 31, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

No it was in my room...

I sought refuge in a buddy’s room until I could face the world again.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

so you're still there uh?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was several years back

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

why is anime porn so terrible?

i dont really watch porn or anime, so maybe i just don’t get it.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just Google it and find out.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 31, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

or go

here

it’s a list of sites you can then search from & find whatever you want

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

nope i'm heeding rb's advice this time.

plus i’m on my work computer right now. probably not smart to be looking at porn.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

You're on a work computer,

at 1:14 AM?

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 31, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

its 11:15 here

and i’m on a business trip.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

the biznass of getting your drink on

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that searching for anime porn on the internet will probably get you into the japanese version of goatse or such.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 31, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

one word

tentacles.

but you’re right, it is just cartoons (but you may think of japan differently if you see them)

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 31, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why are decapitations so terrible?

I’ve never seen one but I can do a pretty good job figuring that I don’t want to see it.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

but its just cartoons having sex.

seems harmless compared to decapitation.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 31, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well anime soft porn.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 31, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll send it if gdm doesn't get around to it soon.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really know if I want to know.

I just want to know what besides porn would bother me.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 31, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's a cartoon of a girl in a skimpy bikini

eating a burger & a coke bottle in her other hand. i just don’t want to offend anyone & i think it’s not safe for VEB

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can respect that.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 31, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's just not live porn.

it’s like one step up.

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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 31, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

or down

depending on your view point…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 31, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

fwiw, i don't look at either one

and i can’t remember where i found that, i guess i kept it because every other day someone here says America! F YA!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

why can't i see that?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 31, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I linked out of my email.

Hang on.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 31, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

statistics are neither science nor math, apparently.

i guess that was his only way out.

"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."

by IHeartBoog on Mar 30, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply