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2010 Draft Preview, Part One

It suddenly occured to me just the other day that March is already here, and I haven't even started on my draft previews yet. Unfotunately, that means I'm way, way behind schedule; I began the 2008 series in late January and last year I got started barely into the new year. (Of course, that was also partially because the biggest signing to speak of at the time was Royce Ring, but that's really beside the point.)

So without further ado, I'm just going to jump right in to the previews, beginning with one of the most popular demographics for the Cardinals in years past: right-handed college pitchers.

Star-divide

The 2010 draft is going to be very, very heavy on pitching. There just aren't that many positional prospects, aside from Bryce Harper, who are going to find their way to the tops of teams' draft boards. Now, that's not to say there aren't any, and by the time the Cardinals pick at 25 what is left on the board is really anybody's guess, of course. But for the most part, if you're looking for the first-round guys in 2010, you'd better start with the pitchers.

The Cards' record of drafting pitchers in the first round has been less than impressive of late. Last year's first-round pick, Shelby Miller, has worlds of talent and is still full of promise, but it's far too soon to judge what he's going to be. Before him, the last time the Cardinals used a first-round pick on a pitcher was in 2006, when they chose Adam Ottavino out of Northeastern University. Ottavino's struggles are well know to most of us by now, as he has been unable to find consistent control throughout his pro career. Chris Perez did come in the supplemental round that year, and he moved through the season quickly.

In 2005 the Cards picked up two pitchers in the supplemental round, Mark McCormick and Tyler Herron. Both have since been released, with McCormick falling prey to injuries and Herron to a rumoured substance abuse problem. The year before that was the Chris Lambert Fiasco, in which the Cardinals selected Chris Lambert, who became three months of Mike Maroth, with Philip Hughes, Yovani Gallardo, and Huston Street still on the board. 'Nuff said.

So, you know. Not so good. Anyway...

Anthony Ranaudo, RHP, Louisiana State University

6'7", 227 lbs

DOB: 9th September, 1989

Player Page 

So, what's so great about this guy? 

Anthony Ranaudo is a monster, plain and simple. He's a huge, beastly pitching machine, with a low- to mid-90s fastball he forces down in the zone from his perch high above the world. His curveball rates anywhere from an average to plus pitch as well, giving him two powerful weapons with which to overwhelm hitters.

His sheer size on the mound is one of his best assets, as he cuts an intimidating figure at 6'7", and he uses his height to produce a good downward plane on the ball. He reminds me a bit of Tommy Hanson of the Braves in that regard, in that neither throw a true sinker, but both are able to throw on a steep angle which helps them keep the ball consistently low in the zone.

While Ranaudo relies heavily on his fastball to generate strikes, he's also capable of getting swings and misses with a hard curveball in the upper 70s that has excellent movement. Right now, though, the curveball is a less effective weapon than it could be because he struggles to throw it for strikes.

While the stuff is definitely there for Ranaudo to perform at the professional level, there are plenty of questions as well. He has no third pitch to speak of at this time, and has tried out both a changeup and slider with little success. His control is solid, but he has trouble commanding his pitches consistently, relying instead on pure stuff to get his outs. His fastball is fairly straight. Even more worrisome, his velocity was inconsistent late in the season last year, often dipping into the 88-91 range. He was also held out of his first start this season with discomfort in his trowing arm this season.

If Ranaudo is healthy, he's almost guaranteed to be gone long before the Cardinals pick. On stuff and body alone, he's likely a top 5 sort of pick. The only wild card is his representation, as he is a Scott Boras client. Personally, I think he's a wee bit overrated, much in the mold of Andrew Brackman of a couple years ago. Then again, there's a reason I'm not making the big bucks to select my franchise's future, so take my opinion with whatever condiments you like.

 Deck McGuire, RHP, Georgia Tech

6'6", 230 lbs

DOB: 23rd June, 1989

Player Page

So, what's so special about this guy?

Okay, I'm going to level with you: Deck McGuire's scouting report is going to sound a fair amount like Anthony Ranaudo's, and that's no accident. They're both huge, physical pitchers with that mythical low- to mid-90s fastball. So let's just sort of skip that bit, shall we?

What is different, though, is the offspeed offerings for each pitcher. Rather than one plus breaking pitch like Ranaudo, McGuire features three fairly well developed offspeed pitches, though none of them really rate as putaway pitches. A curve, slider, and changeup are all usable pitches for McGuire, with his slider being considered the best of the three. He's obviously a very mature pitcher with a deep repertoire, and has the stuff to make him more than just an inning-eating mid-rotation guy.

In 2009, McGuire struck out 118 hitters in 101 innings, showing he has the ability to generate plenty of empty swings. His health record is clean so far as I can tell.

To me, McGuire is the better choice between he and Ranaudo, based on health alone. The thought process for picking Ranaudo higher is much the same as the old adage about picking the runner with terrible form: there's more room for improvement. However, I would take McGuire's cleaner health record and wider variety of offerings over Ranaudo's slightly bigger fastball and single plus complement. To each their own, though.

Alex Wimmers, RHP, Ohio State University

6'2", 195 lbs

DOB: 1st November, 1988

Player Page

So, what's so great about this guy?

Where both of the previous pitchers have been big, physical pitchers with hard-but-straight fastballs in the Jeff Niemann mold, Wimmers is a different sort of pitcher. He still throws hard enough, with a fastball that generally clocks in around 89-93 mph, but it's the movement on Wimmer's heater which attracts the attention. He throws from a lower arm angle, basically a true 3/4, and gets excellent run and sink on his fastball as a result. That movement is both a blessing and a curse; while Wimmers is certainly tough to hit (6.7 H/9, 11.7 K/9 in 2009), he also occasionally struggles to throw strikes consistently, walking 7 hitters per nine innings in 2008 and nearly 5 per nine in 2009.

As good as Wimmers' fastball can be, his best pitch is an 11-5 curveball with hard break that he can throw in or out of the strike zone. It's probably the best curve in the draft this year, and one of the best pitches period.  Unlike the power curve of Ranaudo, Wimmers does a solid job in general of locating the pitch where he wants to most of the time.

Wimmers also throws a changeup that shows good tumbling action, but he doesn't command the pitch all that well as of yet. There's plenty of potential, though, for a third plus pitch if he can get the change over with more consistency.

The only real question about Wimmers relates to his mechanics. He has a bit of a funky delivery, with a high leg kick and a lower arm angle, that some scouts aren't too keen on. Personally, I like his delivery, but he does have a tendency to let his release point wander according to most reports. (I can't personally vouch for that, as I haven't seen him pitch nearly enough to make such a judgement.) If he can iron out his inconsistencies and improve his control, the sky is the limit for Wimmers. He has the stuff to pitch at the front end of a rotation, with a fastball that generates plenty of weak contact and a true putaway pitch in his curveball.

Of the three pitchers here, I like Wimmers the best. Ranaudo's health scares me and McGuire just doesn't wow me. Wimmers, on the other hand, I just get the feeling watching him he could be special down the road. Unfortunately for the Cardinals and us, the chances of any of these pitchers being available at #25 just aren't all that great. Still, you never know.

The Baron's Playlist for the 3rd of March, 2010

"40 Day Dream" - Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeroes

"You Are What You Love" - Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins

"Questions and Answers" - Apples in Stereo

"The Photos On My Wall" - Good Shoes (try to find the version from the single of the same name, featuring the greatest Robert Smith impression ever)

"Cherry Tulips" - Headlights

"The Stars Look Familiar" - I Am Kloot

 "Inevitable Thieves" - Scissors for Lefty

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that's a good Jenny Lewis song

even though I hate that Rilo Kiley was pretty much destroyed.

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by madding on Mar 3, 2010 6:02 AM EST reply actions  

While we are talking about songs

Peter Gabriel’s new release “Mirrorball” and “The Book of Love” are worth a look.

by Harknights on Mar 3, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Wimmer

Heres a random question. Would a Major league team try to re tool his delivery? Or would they just let him keep using the funky one he has so as not to delay his progression through the minors?

by mob16151 on Mar 3, 2010 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

If anyone is to tinker with someone's delivery

I’d prefer it be Chris “Blazer” Carpenter

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

blazer

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I bet they can find Carp

a red blazer in the future.

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by musialsuspects on Mar 3, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

i didn't want to jinx it

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

someone could post that pic of Carp in a blazer

to bring this full-circle.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't need no blazin' blazer.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 3, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i wonder who gets the big one

and who the smaller?

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

that's all for one guy

abort, cardball, abort! do not talk about the luggage!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

left eye, right eye

and now i won’t say another word.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's Wimmer's player page

Linkage

2010 stats so far
2009 stats
2008 stats

Hmmm. Kid threw the first 9-inning no-hitter in school history last year.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Mar 3, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Way OT (sorry) but pertaining to the red light camera discussion from a few days ago

Missouri Supreme Court puts brakes on Springfield’s red light cameras (SN-L)

The ruling pertains to the administrative process to enforce the issued tickets, not the basic use of red light cameras. It may or may not have implications on the other municipalities in the state that use red light cameras.

Other cities that use administrative hearings could also be affected by the ruling, he said, as well as about 30 other Missouri cities with red light cameras. … But American Traffic Solutions, a red light camera vendor that serves more than two dozen other Missouri cities — but not Springfield — said in a news release that no other cities in the state use the same administrative process as Springfield.

Thought you guys might like to know.

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by musialsuspects on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 AM EST reply actions  

these things

are a menace in the city of st. louis. I’m bracketed by them on all major streets leading out of my neighborhood.

by jjray on Mar 3, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

day 3 of blowing off mine...still not arrested :-)

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by rocKStark5 on Mar 3, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

What's the deal in St. Louis?

In Chicago, they’re treated as traffic tickets. So a) doesn’t hurt your insurance so you’re more likely not to fight it and b) your car, you are responsible – no arguments about who’s driving.

I can’t see how else you’d do it. The Chicago pics are all taken from behind and above the car. It’s a massive source of revenue now.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

then I don't get all the

1) questioning their legality

2) trying to get out of it by saying you weren’t in the driver’s seat

unless there are just some weird laws in Missouri that I don’t know about.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I don't either.

My guess is that it has something to do with the fact that they are relatively new here and St. Louis is considerably more conservative than Chicago. A St. Louis City judge recently “fought” a red light ticket at trial and won. I think people get up in arms about the fact that the ticket asks you to identify who was driving if you claim it wasn’t you. (not sure why it matters who was driving).

by Ray Lankford on Mar 3, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

True - and people also break laws when they park cars illegally.

Even when they park their friends’ cars illegally. Doesn’t matter who parked the car in the handicapped spot, the registered owner is on the hook for it, as far as I know.

by Ray Lankford on Mar 3, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a hard thing to deal with because

what’s always been considered a moving violation is now a non-moving violation some of the time.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 3, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

As a response to #1

As a law student, I rarely, if ever, get to use stuff I’m studying on this blog but now I do!!!! The problem with red light cameras is a question of constitutionality. I know a lot of people that would argue it’s a big, fat violation of due process… there’s also precedent that says red light cameras are unconstitutional.

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by Dttl89 on Mar 3, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

Doesn’t take circumstance into account

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by Dttl89 on Mar 3, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

You're not present for parking tickets

So I gotta think that whatever constitutionality you’re referring to has been tested often enough already.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

There isn't

a way to argue a red light ticket in court. You’re legally allowed to face your accuser, and red light cameras don’t allow for that to happen.

For example: You’re stopped at a red light and there is no where for you to move to as an ambulance approaches you. What to do? You can’t block the ambulance, so you move forward, creating space for the ambulance to pass, but by doing so you “run a red light” and get a ticket. Ticket shows up at your house, and you have no way of defending yourself. You can try, but in Missouri there’s no where you can argue a red light camera ticket.

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by Dttl89 on Mar 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

One, I think they're disabled in case of emergency vehicles like that

Two, you can do the same things you can with a parking violation. So yes, you can “face your accuser” it’s just not in a courtroom. You file the paperwork and see what happens.

It’s designed to be a pain so that you won’t bother.

As to your specific situation, if you’re pulling into the intersection, you’re probably not entirely in the intersection, so the camera isn’t triggered. And if you’re in the intersection, you’re blocking the ambulance! Heh.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not going to

argue semantics with you. Running a red light and parking violations are different violations and I’m sure you understand that. The example was for demonstrable purposes only.
This is a situation where you are being criminally charged and you A) Don’t have the right to face your accuser and B) You have to prove that you’re innocent. If any area that has red light cameras wants to get rid of a good portion of the legal controversy, all they’d have to do is set up a system that gives people the chance to argue in court in front of a judge.

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by Dttl89 on Mar 3, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure what you mean by "criminal charge"

When it comes to your car, there are moving violations and non-moving violations.

You are differentiating between red light violations and parking violations. You shouldn’t. They are both non-moving violations. They are the same thing to St. Louis. They are DESIGNED not to go through traffic court, just like parking violations. They can be done in high volume, are difficult to prove false (the pics make it obvious, and the company weeds out anything controversial). The $100 fine was specifically chosen as a number that people would pay rather than go through any hassle to fight.

This isn’t about crime. This is about revenue.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

A red-light violation in front of an officer is a moving violation.

A red-light violation on camera is a non-moving violation.

It is absolutely about revenue, but that doesn’t make this discrepancy correct. I understand why they’re doing it, though.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I totally agree

It is about revenue. I assumed it would be the same as one received from a police officer(moving violation), ya know, since you are moving and such. I think this actually makes it even more annoying.

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by Dttl89 on Mar 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

It may be about revenue but don't forget the safety

benefits. I am very interested in traffic safety, so I am not too bothered by more enforcement. From all the studies that I am aware of, the positive safety benefits usually outweigh the adverse ones with these systems. There are so many trade offs associated with the issue. And not all systems are funded the same way, i.e. how the fine is shared by the muni and the provider.

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by totalloser on Mar 4, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting.

Then why are some municipalities getting rid of the systems? I’d read it was due to the serious increase in rear-ending accidents.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. It could very well be that a particular

installation was not really suited for auto enforcement. But generally, right angle crashes are much more severe than rear end crashes that even a relative rise in rear ends will still result in a net increase in safety. Rear end crashes could be PDOs (Property Damage Only) although it all depends on the actual speeds and if people adjust to the auto enforcement. In Columbia, we have a few cameras that has really helped to clear the intersections so that the minor street vehicles are not blocked by vehicles on the main approach.

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by totalloser on Mar 5, 2010 4:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Of course right-angle crashes are worse.

I’d like to see the data that proves they decrease accidents, even severe ones. Idiots who aren’t paying attention will always run red lights. Drunks will always run red lights. Most severe accidents were probably caused by those people anyway, not someone trying to squeak through a light.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 5, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

But that system exists for red light tickets.

You can dispute by mail or in person. In fact, there was a Post-Dispatch article recently (within the last year) about Judge Teer, who gave drivers a break on the amount of the fine if they showed up to dispute their ticket and had a reasonable excuse.

Also, the tickets aren’t just randomly ticketed. An actual police officer watches the tape and, I’m told by the City prosecutors, only issues tickets to the most egregious offenders to minimize the disputes.

by Ray Lankford on Mar 3, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

To Dttl89, sdrone, and Ray Lankford

In this case it’s being fought because the city isn’t handling the procedure properly, the man in question states. He doesn’t dispute that he ran the red light (as far as I’ve heard), his argument is that it is a criminal matter and should be handled by the courts and not a faceless city administration. That’s why he’s fighting it and it’s also why folks are going to be suing the City of Springfield for their past violations. He is right, though, it shouldn’t be handled by the city and that’s why the state court ruled as such.

by mynameistyler on Mar 3, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

That's silly on his part

The city/state can classify it however want as long as there’s no overriding state/federal law. They can classify jaywalking as a felony, or running a red light as a serious crime getting you 10 years in jail.

In this case, they’ve classified it as a non-moving violation in order to get your cash and move on.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

HEYA TYLER!!!!!!!

Did you see that the same attorney filed another suit against the city to refund all red-light tickets that that had been paid for?

It’ll be over $800K that the city has collected, which, for those of you not versed in SGF politics, is just another kick in the city’s budget’s ass.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Mar 3, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

But,

there’s also precedent that finds them not to violate Due Process under the state or federal constitutions.

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by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

at $100

a pop, it hurts. My wife has racked up three already and the car is titled in my name. It’s a racket for sure.

by jjray on Mar 3, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Breaking the law...

is breaking the law. It’s not a racket if you’re not paying for criminal infractions.

by mynameistyler on Mar 3, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

you might want to refer to the previous discussion

some cameras go off if you stop on the line

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure what this means, but in St. Louis, someone actually reviews the video before issuing tickets.

Tickets aren’t just automatically mailed to the registered addresses on file. At least that’s how it is in St. Louis.

by Ray Lankford on Mar 3, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

A friend of mine got a ticket

for stopping with half her car in front of the line. The interesting thing, according to the lawyer friend of hers, is that if she’d just driven through instead of taking the time to stop, she may not have gotten a ticket.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 3, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. it's done via a contract

So everything is outsourced. The company the city contracts with process the video with a computer, then goes over the results manually, then forwards the info to the city.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

The video is put on the internet

when you get the ticket, it gives you the link to watch.

by Mister Eff on Mar 3, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh

One time I was at my parents’ house and my mom got a letter from the state of Tennessee saying she was caught on camera running a red light, and the letter even provided a link to a video of said light being (barely) run. Of course, my little brother and I immediately watched the video to give mom a hard time, but she kept watching the video and saying “I don’t remember ever driving in that part of town that day!” Turns out my dad had taken the car out for a spin that day, but he wasn’t around to say anything until later.

Sorry for the terrible story, let me try to make it better…

And then a midget walked in and gave me a $100 bill! Hooray!

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

male or female?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Deck McGuire is an excellent baseball name

unless someone responds with “OK!” to it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

He's a goofy looking dude.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

it's spelled McGwire

geesh

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 3, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

RB what is your opinion of Paxton?

As a Kentucky basketball fan I have found their SBN page and have since become more interested in all UK sports programs. Particularly of interest to me was that their star pitcher, ace of the staff, etc. Has quit the team due to eligiblity issues. He was drafted last year and the NCAA wanted to meet with him about how much communication he had with the team that selected him. He is also a Boras client I beleive. I know nothing more than that, not even if he is RH or LH but to me that situation smells of fish.

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by StLHugo on Mar 3, 2010 8:45 AM EST reply actions  

While trying to avoid stepping on a future preview,

I’m a big, big fan of Paxton.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

hope you include the ole miss lefty i will see friday nite at tulane

pomeranz?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He'll be in the same one as Paxton, most likely.

Lefty collegians.

Do me a favour, would you? Drop me a line with your impressions of Pomeranz after you see him if you wouldn’t mind. The address is asaeschafer@gmail.com; you can also just use the link at the bottom of the page.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

will do

and i believe another veb’er will be in attendance – bmorgan, we could meet up if you’d like.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i'll be there

i don’t have a radar gun, but i’m going to try and see someone else’s readings

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by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks to both of you.

Much appreciated.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes!!! I have been waiting for the draft previews to start

very excited….i hope we take a LHP this year in one of our first three picks

Ranaudo scares me to…I feel like he is going to have injury problems..and i want to stay away from that at all cost(not that he will reach us)

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by VolsnCards5 on Mar 3, 2010 8:54 AM EST reply actions  

Paxton is a lefty…big ?‘s surrounding he and his representatives. He had the ability to make the Wildcats a contender for Omaha. It really is a messed up system, why the kid isn’t pitching. NCAA wants to talk to him, UK wants him to do so, but he won’t.

Very talented kid from Canada.

by RDF922 on Mar 3, 2010 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

Nor should he have to talk to the NCAA

He should be publicizing the hell out of his case too, since it seems like he has a good one. He took no money, no other financial considerations, no gifts.

Considering the ridiculous amount of money flowing through these college athletic departments and to the NCAA itself, it’s disingenuous to make examples out of kids like this. Hell, we let professionals in the Olympics now — it’s time to end the fucking hypocrisy that is major college sports. They should be eligible to play collegiately even if they’ve played professionally elsewhere or signed a professional contract and got dumped.

I beg someone to come up with a reason why a $20B industry gets built on the backs of kids making little more than minimum wage with the bonus of a free education.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

It's a pathetic practice

that business has taken over, and I agree with pretty much everything you say, but the NCAA is just so damn greedy, that it lets programs like Texas (Highest revenue in football, over 100 million), USC, and other programs skate by for the sake of more money.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 3, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

The NCAA was so mad at Notre Dame once...

…that they suspended Illinois for two games.

/joking
/sort of

Play ball!

by IL and StL Fan on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a take off on the Jerry Tarkanian quote

“the NCAA is so mad at Kentucky, it will probably slap another two years’ probation on Cleveland State.”
As usual, pot meet kettle.

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by blueinmemphis on Mar 3, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

shark attack.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

rumors of Texas possibly joining the Big Ten

not sure how valid they are, but it’s a win/win situation. Big Ten has the Big Ten Network, which generates Millions and Texas is already a high revenue program (as you stated), which will generate even more Millions.

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i keep hearing rutgers

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Rutgers would get a TON more money

from sharing, tournaments, etc. by leaving the Big East and joining the Big 10.

I doubt Texas gains anything. I think it was just a rumor/blog post somewhere.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

schools I've heard (all just rumor)

Texas, Missouri, Pitt, Rutgers, Syracuse, Nebraska.

Notre Dame seems logical, but I guess boosters who like being independent provide more $ than boosters who don’t care + BTN revenue

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard Vandy too

and that one actually makes the most sense to me. Whatever the case, it won’t be Notre Dame.

by mattyp on Mar 3, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

a lot depends

on whether or not they stick to their rules of Academic standards and Geographical location

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You're forgetting th biggest thing

TV revenue. They have their own contract.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure it doesn't pay as much as the BTN though

I could be wrong. Each Big Ten School gets roughly $22M, IIRC

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

they better do something on the field

if they plan on keeping that contract (notre dame, that is)

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Not gonna happen

I think the Big 10 should take Kentucky, then the SEC should poach Clemson, then the ACC should poach West Virginia

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

who knows what will happen

right now, despite it’s reputation in the media, the Big Ten is probably the richest conference (too lazy to check this fact, but does anyone else have their own network?)

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

apparently the big 12 does

because i’m watching kansas-k state right now online, and the graphics indicate it is the big 12 network (no volume)

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it really tightened up only in the last few minutes of play

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Number 6 in the Pomeroy ratings

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

and that, my friend,

is very serious

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant

serious because they are number 6, not because of Pomeroy ratings. I’ve never even heard of Pomeroy ratings

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by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Just curious, but why?

Eye test? I haven’t seen them play much, but they just keep winning in an awesome conference. Pomeroy generally does a pretty great job of rating teams.

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

just watching them

They looked horrible against Missouri. Missouri just happened to playing worst that game. Just the few games I have watched them they have not looked that good.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 9:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree on that

KState just doesn’t do it for me for some reason. Hate to say it, but kansas has been the only team that has outright impressed me. They can play fast or slow and Aldrich is just a rock in that middle on defense.

I don’t trust a Kentucky who has played close games the entire year even against bad teams, Duke has zero athleticism outside of Nolan Smith (no that’s not a race thing, Singler Scheyer and Zoubek really are just skilled but unathletic white guys), and I just am not a big believer in the 2-3 zone for Syracuse working for 5 straight games—-unless you have a transcendent player like Carmello.

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by joker24 on Mar 3, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

damn, duke is one

i can’t buy that

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know how they do it (their record and ranking)

haven’t been following much yet, but i saw the entirety of kansas-texas in texas and decided then that no one would beat kansas in the tourney. they passed the ball better than any team i’ve seen in awhile – both unselfishly, and well. and they are deep and big. i think, barring some huge upset, that maybe one of the big east teams (syracuse, maybe nova) might be able to do it, and possibly kentucky, but i’m not putting my money on freshmen – i haven’t seen that work out recently.

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty ironic that Kansas plays un-Self-ishly

YYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

geek

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry,

but I’m going to need to see it in full panel form.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I would love this.

Still not sure Clemson would do it. They might but they’re very tradition bound and to them they are an ACC school and proud of it. But we are really just an SEC school playing in the ACC.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

dumb?

sorry, I couldn’t resist

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Very dumb.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the impression I got every time I visited there

Of course, that was before they actually got good at basketball, so the profile fit even better then (enormous football stadium with a huge fanbase, a shitty basketball team that nobody cared about…sounds like at least half the SEC).

I really think UK would be a great pickup for the Big Ten if it happened (doubt it would). It would probably move the SEC somewhere in the MVC/A-10 range in basketball though.

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a bit of a reach.

Florida is a top-teir program. Tennessee is a top-teir program. Vandy is a great program. All three of those schools would mop up the MVC every year.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Mar 3, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ehhh

Florida is in danger of missing the NCAA’s for the 3rd year in a row. Tennessee has been pretty good under Bruce Pearl, but I wouldn’t go as far as calling them a “top-tier program”; probably 2nd-tier.

For the record I was being a little hyperbolic, but I will stand by my opinion the SEC just hasn’t been a great conference over the past few years. I hope that changes, because I actually like college basketball (not too many SEC fans do, outside of Kentucky).

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Im a UK fan

so I have always been more of a BBall fan than handegg fan. I remember when the SEC was a powerhouse in basketball, or atleast it seemed. Either way I don’t know if I could stand UK not being in the SEC, would just feel weird and I don’t know why.

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by StLHugo on Mar 3, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be crazy

Poor U of Memphis wants to go somewhere better, but football is killing them. B-ball should be great if Pastner stays.

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by blueinmemphis on Mar 3, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I've heard Memphis is trying to get in the Big East

Would make sense…weak football, awesome basketball

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

It will never happen,

but I want to see the big mid majors (Gonzaga, Memphis, Xavier, Butler, etc.) come together and make a new Conference.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe not memphis

because of the football.

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to a Gonzaga-Memphis game at the FedEx Forum a few years ago

It was awesome. Adam Morrison almost got in a fight.

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Conference games in WA & TN?

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, look at the WAC

Conference games in HI and LA

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

LA state? or LA city?

Hawaii just throws everything off…but boy is it awesome there

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Hawaii and Louisiana

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

LA Tech, son!

One of these things is not like the other…one of these things just doesn’t belong.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 3, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Ordered them on Monday, they were supposed to get in today

Went down to the shop around 9 this morning, and the ZOMG BIG SNOW!!!111 prevented the parts from making it (from Raleigh via Asheville). They’ll be in tonight. I’ll get ’em tomorrow morning, probably take the car into the shop tomorrow afternoon (after my midterm at 12:30).

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure it was a mess in Asheville to be fair.

In the mountains they do get legit snow.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

They also should be better prepared for it

You can get from Asheville to Athens using nothing but interstates

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

These teams already travel

all over the country to get games, and then come selection time they have issues because they aren’t a BCS school. Take 8 – 10 of the top midmajors, and that’s a strong Conference.

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Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

The Big 10 will not take an SEC school

Won’t happen.

They also won’t take a school with a weak football program, so that’s two strikes against Kentucky.

It will be Pitt, Rutgers, or Missouri. Texas doesn’t really make sense. Texas would be better as an independent school like Notre Dame actually.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

better financially or Football-y?

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think either party would be interested, but I think UK would be a better fit than people think

Geographically, it’s right there. Personally, I think the lure of taking one of the top 3 historical basketball programs outweighs UK’s history as a “weak” football program (although they’ve been to bowl games the past four seasons and have been pretty competitive for the past 10-15 years). If being a weak football program hurts Kentucky, then it should eliminate Rutgers on its own. Besides the past 5 years or so, and the fact that they played in the first football game ever, Rutgers has been one of the worst Division 1-A football programs year-in and year-out. Missouri isn’t exactly a beacon of football success themselves. Pitt isn’t great, but it’s probably a top 25 program historically.

Another name I would consider (if I were the Big 10) is Cincy. Immediate rivalry with OSU, traditionally pretty good at basketball, getting better at football (though they’ve almost certainly hit their peak), etc.

It’s definitely very interesting to follow the Big 10’s expansion.

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope they do it, just for the sake of a conference championship game

How does UK rank Academically? Not sure how serious they still take it, but Academics are/were a big part of the Big Ten

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Alot worse than I realized
  1. in the US News & World Report. I would have expected them to be in the upper half of the SEC. They would instantly become the lowest-ranked Big 10 team.

But that basketball prestige!!!

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Oops, supposed to say #128

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

it remains to be seen if they still care

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

You're forgetting media market size

Kentucky’s is the size of New Jersey. Rutgers gets you New Jersey AND the NYC Metro TV sets. That’s a big deal. PIttsburgh, same way. Mizzou you get St. Louis and KC media markets. That’s big win, especially with the border war with Illinois.

Penn State sucks in every sport but football. Every one. Yet they were the first add to the Big 10. Why? Because Notre Dame declined and they were the next highest media market that made sense geographically. They also have a kick ass football program. So you can see where the rest make sense while Kentucky doesn’t.

Also, do you really think the Big 10 would bring in a team coached by John Calipari, the ultimate AAU cheater? He’d dominate that conference in basketball because they all play like fucking Wisconsin now. Ohio State won it this year with one great player and a bunch of average guys because Turner could spread the floor and nobody in the league could match up with him in the half court.

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by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Missouri makes a ton of sense for a lot of reasons.

A very strong rivalry with Illinois already exists, plus they have a very solid athletic program in both basketball and football. Also, geography plays well with Iowa and Illniois being next door.

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by Eckstreem on Mar 3, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Illinois is no Kansas though

Illinois is a rival but I don’t hate them. Most of the time I will root for them if they are not playing Mizzou. But Kansas, well fuck Kansas.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm an Illinois fan

and I do the same for Mizzou.

Also, fuck Kansas.

by Mister Eff on Mar 3, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

As a Mizzou alum/fan, I agree 100%

and is this where i say fuck kansas?

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by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I one time saw a guy get mugged

He was wearing a KU jersey with a backwards Cubs hat on. He asked if I could call the police after the mugger ran away. I kicked him in the stomach instead.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I would hate that

I care about Kansas 100x more than Illinois.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 3, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Lindenwood applying

to go NCAA Division 2- if anyone cares.

by WyoCardsFan on Mar 3, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

or PAC 10

They talked to the PAC 10 before they joined the Big-8(12). There seems to be lots of rumbling out there about switches, etc. We may be headed to a big shakeup in the next few years.

by ArkansasTravs on Mar 3, 2010 2:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

In the next 10-20 years, we’ll probably have like 4 or 5 mega-conferences (16 teams)

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Texas made it clear

They were not leaving the Big 12. They are just now waiting for the Big 12 to redo their TV contract which is up in the next couple years.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

you could be right

I enjoy rumors and theories more than facts

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

does the Big 10 really want Texas?

for football anyway. I would think Ohio State and Michigan would not, because Texas would dominate them in football. If Ohio State and Michigan have the kind of power in the Big 10 that Texas has in the Big 12, I can’t see that ever happening.

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 3, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

But at the same time...

playing Texas every year would improve their strength of schedule. Plus, Texas can’t win them all and every school has “down” or “subpar” years. As a Illini/Big 10 fan, I would love to add Texas, if not, adding Mizzou and Pitt would be a plus. Forget Rutgers.

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by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus

They just lost the Andy Oliver case!!!! Do they not recognize that 20 year old kids need professional representation when negotiating million dollar contracts with billion dollar organizations who hire professionals to handle negotiating?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 3, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

the Oliver case ended up settling, though

so the NCAA got to put their voided rules right back into effect.

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by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

because kids like Oliver can’t afford high powered lawyers that they would need to take on the NCAA’s high powered attorneys, who are paid for on the backs of other 20 year old kids.

The NCAA should have their anti-trust exemption revoked if they continue to act against the best interests of student athletes.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the NCAA doesn't have an antitrust exemption

they are afforded a lot of deference in dealing with student-athletes, but there is no exemption. NCAA regulations have been attacked thru antitrust scrutiny in the past, and they likely will be in the future. MLB is the only institution with an antitrust exemption.

your point is precisely why Oliver settled, though. he didn’t have the time, money, or energy to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court, which is exactly where the NCAA would have pushed it. he took his $750k and is trying to make it in the Tigers organization.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

But the point is

If someone wants to really challenge the rule, they can.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 3, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutely

there are plenty of ways to challenge it, and the Oliver case sets a good precedent. but they’re going to have to be willing to spend a ton of time & money in order to be successful.

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by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

that’ll be the day

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by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

is this at all similar to maurice clarett fighting the ncaa

i mean, as far as magnitude/difficulty?

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

wasn't clarett fighting the nfl?

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you're right

at around that same time, wasn’t a usc receiver fighting the ncaa? perhpas that’s what i was thinking of.

anyway, i think i recall how clarett came out, and i suppose the ncaa is bigger than the nfl.

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by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

that was mike williams from usc

and he wanted to challenge the age restriction just like clarett.

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by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Not at all

Maurice Clarett was fighting the NFL’s age rule. That one is a slightly trickier pickle. Andy Oliver already de facto beat the NCAA’s “no agent rule”, but before it was actually taken further in appeals, the NCAA paid him 750k to stop the suit essentially. As I understand it, the rule has basically been beaten in court but it didn’t go down in the record books.

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by joker24 on Mar 3, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm assuming you misspelled Kloot on purpose...

but I’m not sure if the reference is to that Jane Fonda flick or not.

Either way, that’s a quality track. I still bust out the self-titled album from them every now and then.

Also, I’m pretty sure “Deck McGuire” is something many of the Cards Talk forum people over at STLtoday have been wanting to do since the “shocking” news of McGwire’s scandal came out. They’re funny.

by Epic on Mar 3, 2010 9:05 AM EST reply actions  

Feh.

It was supposed to be, and it seemed funny at 3:30 this morning, but now I think it just makes it hard for anyone interested to actually find the track in question. I’m going to fix it. (Not sure why it seemed so clever except for the ridiculous hour.)

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by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

knuckleballs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=4961259&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:09 AM EST reply actions  

God I hope

she makes it to the Bigs someday, that would be awesome!!

:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I really hope she's good enough to get a shot stateside at some point

Just seeing big league hitters flail at pitches coming from a 5’1" 100 lb woman would be sight.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

so true

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 3, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

LaRue at 1B. The Mang should watch his back. Or should I say cornhole? No, no…I’ll stick with back.

by mattyp on Mar 3, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

That's what I though too...

That is one killer team.

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Man congrats on several weeks of getting posts up early

Believe me. I know it ain’t easy to get started earlier in the morning than normal!

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 9:40 AM EST reply actions  

OT: Single Game ticket presale for MasterCard holders

received an email this morning for a 24 hour pre sale for MasterCard holders for single game tickets.

The Cardinals and MasterCard have teamed up to bring MasterCard® cardholders an exclusive pre-sale offer! The pre-sale will take place for only 24 hours, from 10:00am CT on Wednesday, 3/3/10 until 10:00am CT on Thursday, 3/4/10. Take advantage of the first chance to buy 2010 single-game tickets

Link

by ubeddie on Mar 3, 2010 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

it's all a lie

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

no no no it's a ticket presale

these are the tickets you buy, so you can get into the place to get your tickets

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like the cubs

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

nah the cubs

do this

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

cubs also have a deal with, i believe, mastercard

to buy tickets early, for a 20 percent premium. and of course they have been scalping their own tickets for years.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

so what's up with their cactus league stadium issue?

I heard other teams didn’t show up to the breakfast or something?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

hunger strike?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

rec

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

it's some kind of tax issue

I guess ST revenues are down over 10% from last year. those games usually all sell out.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 3, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Cubs ST revenues, that is

I’m going to see them play the Royals in a couple of weeks. looking forward to seeing if anK has recovered in the offseason.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

two dingers in first intrasquad action

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I should really clarify this, because its a good story

they’re calling it a “cubs tax” and what’s happening is that the Cubs want all of the other Cactus League teams to pay this surcharge (which means they would have to up ticket prices) so that the Cubs can build a new ST facility in Mesa. and the other teams are rightfully pissed.

Here’s a summary

hahaha….the Cubs are teh suck at everything.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 3, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

that organization really tries to screw EVERYBODY don't they

most notably their own fans

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 3, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

We pick 24th?

Every place I’ve seen we pick 25th, then 46th and 50th in the supplemental round, then 75th in the second round. Those are all of our picks in the top 100.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 9:48 AM EST reply actions  

You're right, it's 25.

Once again rushing to get done and not proofing have conspired to hurt my argument.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

You're not wrong about this being a pitcher heavy draft

About the only position player I even like for any of our first three picks is Jedd Gyorko out of West Virginia. Seems like he might make it to at least #25 in the first round, if not going later than that.

He’s playing SS in college, but will probably be a 2B or 3B in the pros (I’d lean toward 2B). His bat, though, could turn out to be one of the better ones in the draft. Reminds me a lot of Gordon Beckham actually — makes good contact, low strikeout rate, has good double’s power and sprays line drives into the gaps, and may develop some good home run power yet.

Any comments on him RB? He’s the only position player that the Cardinals should be looking at in the first 4 picks, imo.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

All I have to go on are scouting reports,

as I haven’t been able to dig up any footage of him just yet. Thus, my opinion is fairly soft at the moment. However, I do like him as far as I can go without more info. I think he moves to second, as his range is just adequate but not great at short and I think his arm is a little short for third. The bat is good, but he does give me a bit of pause as one of those second basemen who’s sort of neither bird nor hare nor fish; i.e. he’s a lot like Dan Descalso. He’ll move to second because he doesn’t quite fit at either of the other IF positions. His bat should probably carry him, though, and a guy who can hit at a middle infield position should never be written off.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's got the potential to be a better hitter than Descalso does

simply because he’s got more power and isn’t simply a line drive hitter. I can see how you’d get that comparison though.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 3, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

You might be right.

Like I said, I haven’t seen him play in order to judge the power. I meant both are infielders who primarily derive their value from being better than average hitters at a premium position. We call it the Schumaker Special where I’m from.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions  

'Two-Horse Race'

In his must-read “camp tidbits” post, Leach provides a blurb on the no. 5 starter competition:

Still, there were definitely some things to see while the workout went on. Kyle McClellan looked pretty sharp once again, while Rich Hill’s command wasn’t very sharp. They alternated simulated innings, and they should pitch on the same day going forward — starting with Sunday’s game against the Marlins. I’ve written this before, but it’s pretty clearly a two-horse race for the fifth starter spot unless they both really just implode.

This blog is worth reading daily for the anecdotes and insight.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

Nice read.

One of the things I like the best about the Cardinals is the friendship between Yadi and AP.

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Mar 3, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, I love Hill's curveball

I really hope he wins the 5th starter spot so i can see it more this year.

1.14.10, the day I went green.

by njnick on Mar 3, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Hill and the strikezone.

In 2005, Hill broke into the big leagues and threw a strike 53.5% of the time. In ‘06, that went up to 55.1% and it against climbed in ’07, to 56.2%, his career best. Then, in ’08, he lost his ability to consistently find the zone, throwing a strike 49.9% of the time; in ’09, he again downticked, to 49.6%. With this backdrop, when I read "…Rich Hill’s command wasn’t very sharp…" I am not at all optimistic about him. In fact, I mentally add in a clause to the sentence so, in my min, it is: “[After off-season shoulder surgery,] Rich Hill’s command wasn’t very sharp.” There was a glimmer of hope that the surgery would help him with his command, but there is no indication that it has done so. In fact, I’m not even sure it’s a two-horse race after the first turn.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

how about this

he hasn’t pitched in a long time, so his control isn’t going to be that great to begin spring training

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope that you're right;

but, I’m not too optimistic on Hill’s renaissance.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

many are not

but I am not sure what it hurts to be optimistic about it… if he can’t throw the ball in the strike zone, then we have McClellan until he proves he can’t do it. then Smoltz??

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Garcia or Smoltz would be next, I imagine.

Maybe Hawksworth gets a start or two.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

so

do you think they are just going to start Garcia in the minors because of the surgery, to be cautious?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

I don’t think they want him to throw 150 innings this year. I think we will see him in a Cardinal uniform this season, but not in April (barring injury, of course).

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i think they've already indicated

it’s a two-horse race (hill and mac), unless both break a leg.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

flagged

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

so to speak

or, consider it in a theater sense.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Now I'm having flashbacks to the Barbaro obsession

That was almost as bad as Farve-fest.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

and now you bring tragic horses into it?

flagged!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

i was involved in a funny discussion on veb about some horse i’d never heard of but was supposedly distraught over its death – may have been you matty that was telling me “get over it – it’s a HORSE!”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

no, no no.

do not bring up that internet thing again. the guy i’m talking to knows who he is.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

The first rule of the internet:

Don’t talk about the internet!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Cardinals Brand Glue?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

we'd have plenty to supply the factory

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why CC Sabathia, Dan Haren, Adam Wainwright, and Javier Vasquez will never be good pitchers:

all had Zone% of less than 49.9 in 2009.

Okay, so first of all, Zone% is not Strike%. Rich Hill’s strike percentage in 2009 was 60.4%, and it was in the 70s in 2006 and 2007.

Second, it’s March 3, and Hill is coming off of major shoulder surgery after two seasons of barely playing baseball. Frankly, I never thought he would even make it this far, so it doesn’t seem impossible that his command could improve.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 3, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

good distinction

was still a big dropoff in hill getting batters to chase in 09, for whatever reason – could be he was missing by so much that the batter wasn’t even tempted, or could be he was unable to throw the curve for a strike so batter’s learned to lay off once they identified the breaking ball. (maybe someone has some insight on this?)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoops.

My mistake. The dropoff is still there in terms of throwing strikes, which makes sense because of his walk rate increase.

I was with you in the “I never thought he would even make it this far” camp, but I feel that there is still little hope that he makes it all the way back and earns a spot in a big-league rotation.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

his curve is just ridiculous

hopefully he can reign in his control

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Cards v Red Sox

I’m traveling to Jupiter for the Cards-Sox game on 3.12.10 and looking for tickets, anyone know where I could find some? I’ve checked the usual suspects and average ticket prices for Section 100’s is about $150 so I’m reaching out here…thanks for any help.

by UNCDubya on Mar 3, 2010 10:10 AM EST reply actions  

by usual suspects I assume you mean you've checked Craigslist, but if not:

check here at CL for Palm Beach County. I see some tickets for that game on there.

by mattyp on Mar 3, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Happy to see the draft preview back.

I really do learn a lot from your previews that I wouldn’t have the time or resources to find on my own.

He hit it good. He hit it good.

by Jack618 on Mar 3, 2010 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

I don't know how he gets all this info

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

"He Turned Me into a Newt!"

“…I got better..”

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

better a newt than a moocow?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Never!

:=8O

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I subscribe to a bunch of websites,

and you’d be surprised how willing people from universities are to send you video and such of a kid if they have them. Contact the AD, and he’ll likely do whatever he can to either get video the uni has, or find out which families video the games and put you in contact with them. Offer to pay for the DVD or video tape and shipping, and most of the families will send you their material if there’s a chance it will help a kid they know get drafted.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome job as usual, RB

very informative, thanks for gathering that stuff together, it’s always interesting to hear… I think it feels like hearing about something way ahead of time, so that’s always really cool

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

somewhat related

my buddy, who now works for the Atlanta Falcons, used to work for the Vikings Film Crew, and they received a tape from a guy, that he shot himself, show casing all of his skills. They called him the Mattress Man, since that’s what he used as tacking dummies…I need to see if that ever ended up on YouTube…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

hey it's Brad Thompson!

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/77C4EC186CC50853862576DB0014C38A?OpenDocument

no, actually it’s a check-up on the Royals.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 10:56 AM EST reply actions  

man, I'm not sure I can read all this.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, Dick.

single tear

I put my Ank shirt on for old times’ sake last night.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Mar 3, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

well, i've seen dero's return discussed

and glaus and a couple others (rolen, edmonds), but what about rick’s return to busch – standing o?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

we don't because it won't happen this year

the KC series will remain in KC.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

well, that makes sense

i do hope that the cards are winning big enough that puppykicker gets into the game, to answer your other question.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't matter if it's a year late

Hollywood got an O in a cubs uni
So Taguchi got an O, just because
Lego got an O after… (sigh)

rick ankiel will be ovated

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

If a player ever deserved a standing ovation from Cardinal Nation,

Jim Edmonds did.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

he got one, right?

i seem to remember it was a pretty big deal.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 3, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

he did

i was there!

and albert hit his 300th home run!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

are you questioning the power of So?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I ♥ So

I’m more curious as to how bad a cardinal would have to screw up to not get an ovation.

I can’t really think of any good examples.

Help?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Aaron Miles got too much

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

because he's our secret agent of suck

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

oh that's right

it would’ve given it away.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking about Jason Marquis the other day

So I finally checked his fangraphs page. 2006 was waaay out of line for him, in terms of FIP. Other than that he’s basically been a steadily decent back-end starter.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the moocow would disagree

pretty sure i do too

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

are you ... having a cow?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

i bite my hoofe at thee!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 3, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

tino martinez

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 3, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

royce clayton?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 3, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting, if anyone knows

not sure whitey would allow it…somehow.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at Willie McGee's return

ah childhood memories!

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 3, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

But there are a bunch of Cards fans at that series every year.

It’s like 75% Cards fans.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

even better.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

what about the world series?

didn’t think about that one did you?

:greinke/thompson ace tandem along with al mvp rick ankiel lead the royals to a rematch of the 1985 i-70 series"

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

(and what about brad thompson? no love for the puppykicker?)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

So now TLR is saying Ryan might not be ready for opening day...

That’s according the the P-D, through RotoWorld. Also, here’s a strange sight to see.

by BTown Birds fan on Mar 3, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

Oh, for fuck's sake

I didn’t even notice that link was in the post right above mine. Well played, BTown…

by BTown Birds fan on Mar 3, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

happens to everyone. walk it off
here’s your link for Boog

meanwhile
WATCH OUT WORLD

"Julio is in great shape. I’m really impressed with Lugo," La Russa said. "He’s like he’s 10 years younger. He’s really going about everything right."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I realized why I have misgivings about Lopez

any day he’s on SS, Yadi’s gonna lose a CS. anything that impinges on my screenname is an automatic thumbs-down.

if Lugo’s improving his defense, I can’t be down on him much longer. Lopez I watched working day in and day out with Oquendo with no improvement on his weak spots.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

what could we get for lopex?

kidding…mostly.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldn't argue with driving up Schoolyard's trade value, though.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This is how a manager.....

sells it.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Okay,

so, if Lugo is “like he’s 10 years younger,” does that mean that TLR will be playing him less?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

does he know his name?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a tiered system.

Top: First Name Basis
Middle: Last Name Basis
Bottom: Description (e.g. “Young Pitcher”)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty good rookie year ten years ago with houston

did not know his 5-yr-younger brother pitched for rays and a’s

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

no

he’s just saying he’s preparing for boog to not be ready. nothing has changed

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

TLR remembers more names!

Asked if Colby Rasmus has a plus arm, #Cardinals mgr La Russa says: “I think he’s got a plus everything.” #stlcards

#Cardinals mgr La Russa on the players who could fill his bench: “(Allen) Craig could hit his way onto this thing.” #stlcards

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Well said Tony.

Well said.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

he really has a way with words

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Really heartening

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

11-5 curveball?

for a RHP, wouldn’t that be a screw ball? 1-7? or is 11-5 the generic term, regardless of pitching hand? or is it described from the batter’s view? I’m all kinds of confused…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

The generic term I've always heard

is “12 to 6”. Don’t think I’ve heard “11-5” used.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Then you're a youngster

and TLR will never put you and your curve in a game.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Wouldn't 11-5 just be a 12-6 with less break???

Wait….that’d be a 1-5. Disregard.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a MEAN 3-3 curve.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

[Insert joke about Lincecum's 4:20 high-ball here]

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Not less break, necessarily,

but more tilt. Wainwright’s curve is almost vertical in break, while a guy like Ankiel’s had a bit more lateral movement as well as the downward movement.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Read the post-header...

…I realized i made a mistake and didn’t feel like clicking cancel.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 3, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

1-5?

that’s an interesting flight path

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

A RHP's curve

would be an 11-5 from the catcher’s POV.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 3, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured it had to do with the "true" 3/4 arm slot

wonky release point means wonky breaking ball

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

oic what you ment

nevermind
I’m an idiot

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

From the catcher's POV.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

I guess since I was a pitcher, I always just described mine from my point of view. I enjoy the 11-5/1-7 curves the best, because hitters at lower levels in high school & college (my career) aren’t as good as picking up the spin, and when they see something coming towards their head, duck out of the way.

I have a picture of this somewhere and now I need to find it and share

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess the terminology is changing

or has changed, due to pitch f/x (which i was very confused on until i realized it was from the catcher’s POV)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Correct, 11-5 Curveball = Screwball

Just don’t call it a screwball (for stupid reasons).

by thepainguy on Mar 3, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

now i am really confused

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Generally, pitches are descibed from the pitcher's POV

Since what matters is what the pitcher and the pitching coach see (and the PC generally stands behind the pitcher).

GameDay is confusing that standard.

by thepainguy on Mar 3, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not sure how this is news

more on Boog, I guess.

interesting training partners for Lopex

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

"utility starter"

that’s what they called lopex, but don’t think i’d ever heard that term.

saw in that ankiel article that eck’s bro changed ankiel’s stance – are guy’s like that moonlighting (i think eck is a nats coach), or just helping out an old buddy?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought our team IS utility starters!

haha. I thinkkkkk, I’m not sure, it said he’d worked with him before.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i was just wondering if money is involved.

or more like take him out to some nice dinners.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

baseball is a brotherhood

it’s all in who has the biggest ranch to go hunting in, or who has the XBox.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

typical strauss

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

sbnd

I typed #2

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

leadoff works also

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

 If Lopez is batting 2nd than it probably means he is also playing second base. Which means we no longer have our leadoff man

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldn't he bat second

when playing third and schu at 2b?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

clarify?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i think you worded the previous comment...confusingly.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

then i think the opposite

that lopex is for sure to bat second only when both he and skip are playing, and is likelier to bat leadoff when he (lopex) is playing 2b

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

well

maybe Lopez should be leading off

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Duh

In that situation we’ll just have Lugo bat leadoff since he’ll be playing shortstop.
Yaaaaay!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

gee-d has Young Pitcher syndrome

what happened to full names and, uh, research?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

do I hafta blockquote everything

haha, fine

Further, the trade of five youngsters taken in the first two rounds of recent drafts for Matt Holliday and Mark DeRosa also hurt. The latter group included former No. 1 Cardinals prospect Brett Wallace.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

we signed a boatload of latin americans

futureredbirds.net – read the comments

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

unintentional wording (no cubans, though)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I Really Hope...

…some of these guys pan out – who knows where the next Albert Pujols is hiding!

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha!

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 3, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I just love how journalists are not immune to hearsay

did I not list out the actual amount the Yankees are paying back? unless that was inaccurate, I’m pretty sure that was $15,023. that does not magically round down to “”http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Fork-it-over-Jeter-Yankees-must-repay-10K-eac?urn=mlb,225554" target="new">10K".

for real, any foo’ like me can wiki.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

thanks, SBN.

link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i saw the headline and wondered about that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

question...

is this massaging the data? ‘cause this—

An astonishing 31.8 percent of [Howard’s] fly balls go over the fence, compared to 20.4 percent for Fielder and 20.1 percent for Pujols.
—seems like “how to spell bandbox.”

 

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

that’s a glaring omission if they are trying to prove that Howard is that much more of a power hitter

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

well, according to si.com, just throw howard a breaking ball

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

They must have confused him with Soriano

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i think he was second worst with the breaking ball

near the top anyway.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He was never good with off speed stuff

He was negative against sliders, curveballs, and and change ups. The real problem though is that he can’t hit fastballs like he used too.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

He tends to disconnect and go get fastballs

That leaves him vulnerable to anything offspeed because he can’t adjust to them without killing his bat speed.

It also means his timing has to be perfect on FBs.

by thepainguy on Mar 3, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Howard or Soriano?

I honestly don’t know how Howard is with breaking balls, I just wanted to take a shot at Soriano

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

howard is apparently the easiest mark

for the curveball.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I vividly remember watching some at-bats of his against Wainwright on Gameday

Went like this:
Curveball – swinging strike
Curveball – swinging strike
Curveball – swinging strike
Ryan Howard strikes out swinging.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't click, but is that for last year

or career? because he gets worse every year, and thus sees more curveballs every year. it’s a pretty good article, with data.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if he's only average-ish vs uncle charlie

you’d throw him one more often than not, because OVERALL he’s an excellent hitter, so any pitch that turns him into a merely average (or even a shade above average) one is a good result, no?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

The age-old problem of anecdotal evidence.
On a totally unrelated note, does anybody remember Uggla in the Allstar Game? That guy sucks at defense lol!!1

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

what i'm talking about is not anecdotal at all

it’s a researched article now at si.com…hey, with charts and everything. and it seems to clash with what flim is relaying from fangraphs.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, didn't mean to imply that, sorry

I just meant my gameday memories are totally anecdotal.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

and did you see the world series?

believe he set a record, which probably prompted the si.com research/article

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

A record for what exactly?

K-ing on breaking balls or something? I don’t remember that many details from the series (also, which one, last year or the year before?) other than Chase Utley is awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

think he had 13 k's

last year. hey, read the damn article. i’m just the messenger.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha

Ok, ok, I’ll read it. I do enjoy Howard striking out. Stupid 2006 MVP…

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I read this and it brings up a question

When Pujols hits a line drive home run, is it counted as a fly ball or a line drive?

I’ve seen him hit home runs at Wrigley that never got as high as me when I was sitting only halfway up the 2nd deck. They weren’t fly balls.

But I don’t know how they’d be recorded.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that's the problem

variance in classification from park to park, and i’m not sure who’s doing the classifying

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It could be counted as either

depending on the scorer. However, most BIP (ball in play) data doesn’t include HR at all – they’re generally not counted as a ball “in play”. I’m 99% sure this is the case with fangraphs’ data, for instance.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:22 AM EST up reply actions  

OT and Random Thought of the Day: Someone asked me today

What is the saddest thing you have ever seen? At the time I couldn’t really think of an answer but now I think I do.

My Junior year of college I went down to Panama Beach, FL with 3 of my friends. We were driving down there ourselves. It took around 14 to 15 hours, so a nice drive. We were there about a day or two when this random guy showed up. Well he was random to me but the girls I came down with knew the guy. He was their manager at the restaurant they worked at. This guy just drove through the night 14 hours to hang out with us for the week. The girls didn’t seem to really like the idea. But we did have 2 extra beds where we were staying so I was open to the idea. But the guy didn’t want to chip in any cash to stay there. Just wanted to stay free. So after I said he couldn’t stay if he didn’t pay anything he left. Almost as soon as he got there he was turning around to drive home.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions  

right now

my roommate (met him through a friend of a friend, he lives close to my practice space so I moved in) is super far behind on his rent and he just got a 5 day notice to move out. luckily I’m cool with the landlord and paid up, so I’m not effected (other than having to deal with his sorry ass). anyway, it’s sad seeing him in a state of denial, he thinks he won’t have to leave. he has a drinking problem and has pissed off the other tenants including myself, so I don’t see that he has much of a chance to stay. it’s just going to be a mess.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

wait you live in the place as this guy

But on a separate lease? I have got royally screwed over by bad roommates before. Got sued over it and ended up having to pay a couple thousand dollars because one of my roommates just moved out one day and stopped paying rent.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

he is on the lease

I am not, I only do month to month leases in case of situations like this

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

actually

technically I just have an agreement with the landlord, not even a lease. he’s happy that he’ll have someone staying and paying next month’s rent. plus I have someone else moving in once ol’ boy leaves the premesis. dude works at home but he keeps procrastinating on his work and isn’t getting paid. now he thinks that he won’t have to leave, once the sheriff shows up he will know better. cuz if he has an issue with the landlord he would have to sue the landlord after he gets evicted I think is how it works. he still thinks he can set up some kind of payment plan with the landlord but he’s like $3k behind and the landlord is sick of his bullshit. which sucks cuz he had plenty of chances to turn it around if the landlord gave him that long of a leash; the landlord is a really nice guy, and is being taken advantage of by the roommate from hell

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

This is most assuredly...

sad in the “What a pathetic son of a bitch” sense and not the “I feel bad for doing that” sense. Yes?

by mynameistyler on Mar 3, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i hope so

and are you sure the guy just drove back home and didn’t just go elsewhere?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he had anywhere else to go

Cause he didn’t know anyone else down there and couldn’t even come up with some money to crash at our place.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Easy response for me.

…I was dogsitting for my neighbors when I was 14; about midway through their trip, I remember goin’ over there at night to let out Alex (their basset hound) out. I let him out, gave him a treat and he was all sorts of peppy… for an 13 year-old dog, he had a lot of “pup” left.

The next morning, I got up and walked over to their house to let him out… I opened the garage door and he was just lying there on the kitchen floor…not moving, not breathing, nothing… It was the saddest thing I’d ever seen.

To this day, if my dog is asleep on the stairs, I’ll stand there for a couple seconds to make sure he’s still breathing.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 3, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

On the note of PCB

We went down there last year (and are going again this year), we’re just out on the beach drinking warm Nattys when some guy who was by himself comes up and asks the girls we’re with to flash for some beads. They decline and the guy says “c’mon let’s go see some [mammory glands]!!!” to us guys…..“umm no thanks we’re good on walking around the beach with some random dude.” In any case we watch this guy go up to pretty much every group of girls in the area and predictably get rejected. Saw him the next day trying the same thing by himself. At the bars one night I saw The Guy just walkin around by himself, probably making 15 circles around the bar before leaving. He had apparently gone down to Spring Break by himself.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 3, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

i could probably do spring break by myself

I went down with 3 of my friends and barely hung out with them. We all got along well because we were all wanderers. When I go out with friends I tend to wander off and meet new people. I did that pretty much all week. It was a pretty good trip though. I remember getting in a dance off, which seems pretty lame looking back now. I also experienced the worst sausage fest of my life. It was a foam party. It was all dudes looking to grind on girls. But their was no girls. Guys were fighting over ugly girls. It felt like Rolla with foam.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Bernie just got the plague

apparently those long pauses were… well, then. they sent him home for the last hour.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

I don't even remember the last time I got random sick

My dad right now has some kind of flu. I haven’t even puked in like 9 years let alone had the flu. Maybe 15 or 16 years since I got sick.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

you're not exposed to as many germs when you live in your mother's basement

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Is TLR flexible enough

that he’d play Lopez full time at 2nd if he just starts getting on base constantly and his defense is average?

I didn’t realize Lopez’ OBP was good from both sides of the plate until yesterday when something posted here prompted me to look it up.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 2:21 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

I’m wondering if Lopez shouldn’t just be the starting 2nd baseman… but I don’t think that’s TLR’s style (plus I’m not sure what they would do with skip)

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

skip's gonna play

don’t be hating on skipper.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

not hating on him

but Lopez is a better baseball player

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

but skip is a 2b

and lopex is a “utility starter”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

well, that's how Larussa views it so that's how it will go down

plus it would be mean to skip to not let him play 2nd now after last season. I guess Lopez should be at different positions to take advantage of splits and give people days off

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Skip is gritty

and there’s not way a non-gritty player gets the bulk of the time at 2B

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Lopex is just as gritty

plus he can play more positions so that gives him an edge in that dept. he’s like a better version of Miles

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

but he's not white?

therefore he’s more athletically gifted and doesn’t have to be gritty

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

not white = therefore he's more athletically gifted?

wut

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

.........

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i believe it states that

in the cardinals constitution

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Not By Moooch...

Flop’s OPS the last 3 years: .659, .730, and .810; Skip’s over the same period: .816, .765, and .757.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

And the OPS+ for last 3 years:

Flop is 75, 93, & 111, while Skip is 111, 102, & 101.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

if only

skip didn’t have that weakness vs lefties… maybe his defense will save him this year

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

fixed

if only
skip didn’t have that weakness vs lefties… maybe his defense will save won’t kill him this year

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

lopex will negate that weakness

so, never facing lefties, skip could very well put up some nice numbers – the combo could/should be a real offensive upgrade for the club

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

can’t wait for opening day dude

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I Know!!!!

:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair

there’s a more-than-fair chance that Skip’s a better hitter of right-handed pitching.

Also, Lopez is FAR more valuable on the bench as a pinch-hitter than Skip is (and also as a utility defensive replacement, although I guess Skip can “play” centrefield, just about). Skip’s so poor against lefties that he can easily be neutralised in high-leverage at-bats. Lopez less so.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Cardinals are paying Skip more than Lopez.

Kind of crazy how that worked out.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 3, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

that's just f'd up

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

in a good way

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony likes to keep everyone fresh

He wouldn’t turn Skip into a bench player though we may see Skip as the first choice sub when Ludwick or Matt need a day off and the Cards are facing a RHP.

by ubeddie on Mar 3, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

RB:

Thanks for doing these previews every year. It’s a great way for those of us who are not really knowledgeable about prospects to have some idea of what is going on come draft day.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

I wish Baseball was more like Hockey

Today is the trade deadline in Hockey. Their is tons of trades that don’t even involve people on the NHL team. Just trading minor league guys for other minor league guys. I wish baseball did more depth trading like we see in baseball.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 2:33 PM EST reply actions  

I was gonna say

I don’t want there to be a lot less scoring, that would suck

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

fanposts not having a very good showing right now

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

besides giveml

that’s probably the best one on there

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

giveml i thought was top notch too

he sorta approached it from a different angle

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

giveml's fanpost is the best one I've read in a while

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

to be fair

it’s difficult to come up with analysis in the off-season (as VEP has shown!). I’m OK with kinda subjective stuff and stories at this time of year, although you’re all right that the overall quality right now is kinda poor. Hopefully it’ll right itself in the season.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh this is to funny

So apparently while Brad Penny was away from his house. Chuck Liddell and his girlfriend decided to work out at his house naked than videotape it. This is to funny.

Source

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 2:41 PM EST reply actions  

i never clicked that link

because…well, because i always fall for your stuff.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

well...ok.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

btw

The Link is sfw but the video on the page probably isn’t. I haven’t watched it

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

ha, i guess penny has a little david wells in him

wonder if he also has a deal with reebok.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Article says Liddell's girlfriend is Heidi Northcott

Who, to bring this back to baseball, formerly dated role model and genuine great guy Jose Canseco. Barf.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

what

you don’t want butt juice on your workout machine?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want to make this clear

I’m all for college coeds working out naked.

by sdrone on Mar 3, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, does everyone remember Solanus' awesome fanpost

25 players : 25 seasons, 1910-1934. Well, in the comments I remarked that one of my all time favorite baseball photos is of Pepper Martin running to first. I couldn’t find the picture anywhere on the web though, and I’d only seen it in an old book of baseball photos I’d lost. Well, I’m home on spring break, and while perusing old dusty bookshelves in a storage closet, what did I find but that very book. Took a quick snapshot of the picture:

Now that is just an awesome picture, even though that style of running to first makes even less sense than Skip’s. Also, in case anyone was wondering, the book is Baseball: The Illustrated History of America’s Game. Highly recommended.

by mattyp on Mar 3, 2010 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

I posted a Fanshot of this,

but I think you might enjoy the website, mattyp. It’s Fantography, a site featuring photographs taken by fans of ballplayers.

http://www.fantography.net/

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

that entire list is jacked

some of those are indefensible

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

that list is dumb

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Most lists I see have

Braun with 1 and Holliday with 2. Kemp has never been better than Holliday in any stat department besides steals.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

it’s pretty unbelievable that they could rank those 2 higher, wtf!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, he is a wizard,

so he has that going for him.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Kemp hit 26 homers and stole 34 bases last year

More than Holliday in either category. And may not have hit his ceiling yet. Kemp also more or less matched Holliday’s R/RBI production last year. Holliday had him in average and is obviously a better all-around hitter, but for fantasy purposes, Kemp is a stud and might get studlier.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

that makes sense, but Elsbury? cmon! he’s not even top 20

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of Ellsbury!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

As for Ellsbury

He stole 70 bases last year. No big surprise that he’s way up there in fantasy rankings.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

ah

I forget he stole that many, but still… I’d rather have Nelson Cruz or a lot of other people before I’d take him

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

But the fantasy value of a guy who can steal bases while not killing you in other categories (Ellsbury is probably good for .300 with 100 runs and 60 RBIs) can’t be discounted. It’s the same reason Crawford is always a first or second rounder.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

that makes more sense, especially since there’s not that many speedsters around these days

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe they should just come out with a whole new way of scoring fantasy leagues

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

I always play in leagues with OPS, which helps devalue a guy like Ellsbury a bit, while boosting a guy like Holliday a little. But for a traditional 5×5 league, I think the RotoAuthority ratings aren’t awful.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I always use OPS in my leagues

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Park Effect?

This is all I can think of, that Busch III suppresses righthanded hitters’ production. (Well, except for one righthanded hitter I can think of, anyway.)

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 3, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

braun is a better hitter?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

in theory, yes

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Lego probably has better d though

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

holy crap

d-braun is really bad at defense

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

cue mojo's quote

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

yesterday I mentioned that rapper Guru was in a coma

well, he ain’t any more

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 5:00 PM EST reply actions  

Well

To continue the Big Ten discussion, Texas doesn’t make sense geographically, altough I can sure as hell see why the Big Ten is interested (#1 in revenue with over 100 million, ND was second with around 80 million I believe). Texas has no incentive, plus, the Red River rivalry is revived, so fans won’t like playing Oklahoma only once, and that conference, despite the crappy defenses all around (other than Oklahoma and Texas really, and those aren’t particularly good either), is getting more notoriety every year.

By the way, just as a side note, Leach got screwed over…..I wish Indiana would hire the guy actually, but if he can’t get a better job than that, it is a crime.

Anyway, to the actual relevant topic, Pittsburgh is a good football and basketball school, but I don’t think that it makes much sense for the Big Ten. They already tap into that market with Penn State, so there isn’t as much money to be made, even though it makes sense geographically and competitively. Rutgers isn’t particularly intriguing to me. They haven’t been relevant in forever, and they plain suck at football. Missouri is a decent choice geographically and they sport decent teams on both sports (I really like their basketball coach, picked them to go to the Final 4 last year). CIncinnati is alright I guess, but their football is destined for a downfall with Kelly jumping ship (Kelly will be a great coach, he actually has experience unlike certain coaches) and Stephenson inevitably going to the NBA. Syracuse is a great school basketball wise, but the Big Ten already has a fantastic conference basketball wise (A bit biased, but top to bottom it’s very solid). They need more football notoriety, and Syracuse does not bring that, no matter how many former Duke basketball players they recruit. Kentucky would be utterly fantastic basketball wise, especially with Calipari, but it is the same issue as Syracuse in my view.

Notre Dame is a different issue entirely. As i said before, they made over 80 million dollars in a down season. Think of the profits they could have on a BCS quality team? It’s kind of scary actually. However, Notre Dame wants to be special and stay independent. If the Big Ten adds a school, Notre Dame will never be in the Big Ten. Maybe they crack their stance and decide to join, but the Big Ten needs ND more than ND needs the Big Ten.

I would be ecstatic for either Texas or Notre Dame, which is why they are really both the longest shots, especially Texas considering they already denied wanting to join. I just hope it isn’t Rutgers really, that doesn’t help anyone except Rutgers itself.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 3, 2010 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

i dunno about rutgers

that’s a huge market to tap into, and in football they have been decent with this coach and a new stadium, so if the big ten helped them, that in return would help the big ten, imo. forgetting texas and notre dame, of the viable options i think rutgers is a pretty good one.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Working on a new Proxy for MLB.tv blackouts

Wanted to build something a little more reliable. I am working on the kinks right now but have a beta of it up.

VEB Proxy

Would be curious to hear any feedback

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 6:00 PM EST reply actions  

You are a man among men, sir.

That is the first proxy I have ever clicked on that my firewall at work didn’t block.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

yes...it took me to youtube....

but it won’t play the video. Doesn’t say it’s blocked, but vids aren’t playing.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

thinking that that is because they won't install flash for me though.

Let me check a couple of other sites.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you stream...let's say KTRS?

I can’t. Once again that may be that I don’t have the right software or plugin installed.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

can't you just install firefox

onto a flash drive, then install flash and use that to browse?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

possibly.....I will have to check that out tomorrow.

I’m guessing not though, because I’m blocked from installing anything to the computer, and in theory installing to drive F, is the same as installing to c.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

you would install it at home

and then just plug the drive in and run it from there

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

will it work for mlb.tv?

those kinds of proxies generally didn’t work for me because you couldn’t run the flash

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Move to England.

Easy!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it is fair to say I totally called this
Moreover, he’s even considered to be a possibility for some time in center field. However, the staff will want to see Lopez play some center down here in Florida before he gets thrown out there in a game that counts.

Source

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

Top 5 favorite bands/artists GO

1. Sublime
2. The Doors
3. Daft Punk
4. Vampire Weekend
5. Gorillaz

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 6:18 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

JD....as a Sublime fan....

I highly recommend the box set “Everything Under The Sun.”

I picked it up off of Amazon for $40 a couple of months ago. 3 CD’s and 1 DVD. Haven’t watched the DVD yet.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Same here

It was a birthday present from an ex-girlfriend. Listened to the CDs multiple times, haven’t watched the DVD. I haven’t had a chance to watch it in the right…ahem…state of mind…

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

okay

top 3 are pretty interchangeable

1. john coltrane
2. fela kuti
3. radiohead
4. akron/family
5. neil young

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

hell yeah

coltrane

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting...

1. Sigur Ros
2. Eric B and Rakim
3. The Arcade Fire
4. Nick Drake
5. The Pixies

Mentions in no intentional order to:
Death from Above 1979
Queen
Perez Prado
Antonin Dvorak/Bedrich Smetana
The Cure
Neu!
Bill Withers

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

is it bad

that of the 12 names listed, I’ve heard of 2?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

3...Queen

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

and bill withers?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I just had this conversation, It concluded with;

“If I was a religious man, I’d worship bill withers.”

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

no Pixies for me

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

perez prado

and the one below it are the only ones i haven’t heard of

how haev you guys not heard of the cure?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Perez Prado did Mambo #5

pretty much the most famous Mambo song ever. You’d recognise it if you heard it. It’s been on a bunch of adverts.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I Herd of 'em all

except Bill Withers

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Heresy!

lean on me

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

sorry...

…now I recognize it. Not my cup of moo juice, though.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 4, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Great song

I also like “Use Me”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 4, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

this one's my favorite

by Bill Withers – Use Me

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

classic

harlem is far and away my fave, but lotsa people’ve never heard it

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

i hadn't until now

good stuff

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 4, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

got to see dfa79 live, they were freakin badass

too bad they only put that one album out…. but maybe it’s for the best that way

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

check em out

unique rock music with synth textures, catchy as hell

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i keep meaning to

never met anyone who didn’t like them

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

wow you don't know how jealous I am

there’s no other group/artist in the history of music I’d rather see than dfa

I’m totally serious

their mix tape is damn good too

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Does a remix record count as an album?

I’ve had this argument many, many times, and I wish to hear your opinion.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Sigur Ros- Classic.

Ever seen the video for Untitled? It’s fucking amazing.

Here it is, if anyone cares.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

enjoyed that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Hadn't seen that

not my favorite video

I got to see Heima in a small theater in Columbia. Still think that’s as close to a live performance ever put on disk.

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

no justin bieber fans out there?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not?

    1. Wilco
    2. The Band
    3. My Morning Jacket
    4. Radiohead
    5. The Allman Brothers Band

by Mister Eff on Mar 3, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

no one will ever displace Bob Dylan as my #1

but I can’t say Wilco isn’t making a strong push. I could probably listen to Jesus, Etc. on a loop until I die and never get sick of it.

by mattyp on Mar 4, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

oh, also been

listening to a lot of Nina Simone lately. Som much talent its almost unfair. Check out the piano solo in this.

by mattyp on Mar 4, 2010 1:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Her version of

I Get Along Without You Very Well (Except Sometimes), is easily the best version of a true classic ever put down on wax.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

yep, agreed

she was an amazing talent. I also agree with RB’s comment above!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

smoking popes, weezer, and then it's less interesting from there.

“Oh, you like the Beatles and the Beach Boys? You don’t say…” I love Vampire Weekend but I think I need one more album before I commit to putting them on a list.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 3, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa!

I also really like the Beatles! And the Beach Boys! I can’t believe there’s someone out there like me…
Are you a Dylan fan by any chance? That’d be too weird.

In other words, I have that exact problem.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought about that with Vampire Weekend

But I love their two albums so much I think it’s justified (for me)

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay.

1. Owl City
2. Sara Bareilles
3. Miranda Lambert
4. Lady Antebellum
5. Anna Nalick

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Owl City, but I have no idea who the other four are.

my list would look like this
1.The Killers
2.Coldplay
3.The WHO
4.Foo Fighters
5.Matchbox Twenty

Owl City might be on here in the future if knew of them longer.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Miranda Lambert is awesome

her and George Strait are about the only carry overs from my heavy country listening days…oh, and Gary Allen

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

She has a beautiful voice.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm.

Looking at that list, I have to ask what you think of Kasey Chambers.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

My dad likes her and I have heard a few songs.

I think I would like her if I actually listened to her. But I have to actually do that sometime.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 4, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

here's mine

1. MGMT
2. Kings of Leon
3. TV on the Radio
4. The Strokes
5. Yeah Yeah Yeahs

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Gosh this is hard. No particular order, sorry.

Beatles
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Sublime
Cake
Tie: Yasunori Mitsuda/Nobuo Uematsu
Hon. Mentions: Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, The Advantage, The Minibosses, Beulah, David Bowie, Jethro Tull, The Beach Boys, Dylan, The Gipsy Kings

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

prepare to be offended

1.) Bush
2.) Breaking Benjamin
3.) Foreigner
4.) Tool
5.) Foo Fighters

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

close, but no cigar

6a: Cake
6b: Seal

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:05 PM EST up reply actions  

One of these things is not like the others

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

which one?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Foreigner

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Gentlemen!!! Behold, the awesome power of the Foreigner Belt!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

i was gonna be Carl for Halloween this year

but i didn’t wanna wear a wifebeater around all night

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by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

wear it over a fat suit

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

that is a good solution

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I love some ATHF

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Foreigner's greatest hits is constantly on cycle

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a band called Tool?

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

oh

i thought that was spants

clemgirl might actually dig them

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

they kind of have a teens/early 20s thing going on

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

tool doesn't exactly strike me as the most angry band

but I know what you mean

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

herd angrier

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

So let me see if I follow your logic:

because there is angrier music, Tool is not angry.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 3, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

they are slightly angry

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Early Tool was pretty angry

From Lateralus forward, they were much less raar.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

They're angry...

…I’ve just herd angrier

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

you said herd

heh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

he didn't say that

allow me to quote

tool doesn’t exactly strike me as the most angry band

and i agree completely

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, obviously

because cows can’t talk!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

steaks tonight?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

NOM NOM NOM

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by jd is legend on Mar 4, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

This might be the farthest right something I've started has ever made it

if only it was something intelligent and baseball related…

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Immolation is angrier

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

meshuggah

brutal truth, et al

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

have you heard that collab they did

with that dude from those bands (i can never remember his name!)?

that one song, “when good dogs do bad things” is hell of crazy, but pretty good

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

that would be the mike patton collab

that the best dep stuff imo, that ep with him on it. on a related note, the was in the music news for exposing himself onstage recently

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

patton, yep

and that piece of news does not surprise me. dude is insane

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

the most f'd up thing he's done

was in the 90s someone threw a bottle of piss onstage and he dumped it over his head

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

um

wtf

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

that's what everyone did

ewh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

[[COMMENT_CHILDREN_TOKEN]]0/

I’ve seen them, I think my neck is still out of place from the headbanging

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Funny...

..THE loudest concert I have EVER been too, bar NONE was My Bloody Valentine in RIchmond. I knew I was in for it when they gave everyone several sets of ear plugs…

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 4, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

they are freakin loud as hell, so many layers and so distorted

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Kevin Shields and the drummer dude are genius

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Loudest thing

I’ve ever been to was Rammstein years back , during the Sennsucht (sp?) days, at some venue in Chicago. It was somethign I’ll never quite forget.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

don’t click that link with the volume on max

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

old slayer

is unmatched, but that song sucks! Thats the album where I lost my faith.

by heavy metal on Mar 4, 2010 7:03 AM EST up reply actions  

just say no to drugs

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by STLRegalia on Mar 4, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

arrrgggh!

Good band. Close To A World Below is maybe the best Death Metal album ever. I’ll refrain from listing my faves as they may offend others.

by heavy metal on Mar 4, 2010 7:02 AM EST up reply actions  

my fave is unholy cult

their new one is really freakin good btw

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

RATM is incredible workout music

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by jd is legend on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I like their first 2 albums a lot

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

rage kind of annoys me

though, i used to like them once

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I like their first two albums

same as Cards Fan. Killing in the name of was the christmas number 1 here in the UK charts (it was a facebook campaign against manufactured Simon Cowell pop, and pretty funny it was too).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:03 AM EST up reply actions  

i didn't actually mistake her for you

i was just trying to help RR get his joke off

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

lots of people need a boost

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

My joke was doing fine,

until pj got involved.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, we salvaged it!

we got her to watch a small bit of schism on youtube

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

pj harvey?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

that song she did with thom yorke

“this mess we’re in”

qual stuff. gotta listen to that now

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I like her album

songs of the city, songs of the sea. she’s also good on desert sessions 9&10 with josh homme and crew

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

well

sorta, it was queens of the stone age

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

OIC

me like Kyuss and QofSA

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 4, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

so do I

especially the first 3 qotsa

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

qotsa

that was the one with Dave Grohl, right?

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by STLRegalia on Mar 4, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

he was on songs for the deaf

his best drum performance of his career

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Kyuss almost made my top 5 btw

welcome to sky valley is one of my favorite albums of all time, it’s perfect

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I used to love them

but their last album was sorta meh. danny carey is one of the best drummers around though, and the guitarist is a great artist with a really cool tone, their bass player is amazing, and they have a great singer. they have just gotten a little too artsy fartsy though

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

they're okay

there’s a few songs that i can get into (don’t remember names) but on the whole, i think they’re a little too over the top for me

plus tool fans are kind of unbearable. no offense, guy up there. i would say they are as bad as radiohead fans and i say that as a huge radiohead fan

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

no offense taken

I’m not really someone who gets that much into music.

unless I’m drunk and Kareokeeing:
Lionel Ritchie, Hello
Radiohead, Creep
Elton John, anything

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

My finest karaoke moment

“Like a Virgin” – Madonna

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Journey beats all in karaoke.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

good call

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

finest moment

“It’s the End of the World” – R.E.M.

only missed 3 words…haven’t tried it again since

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you black out just beforehand like Will Ferrell in Old School?

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by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

no

that was about an hour later

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

we're going streaking

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

My brother did "Whip It"

on karaoke one Christmas in front of our entire family. The funniest thing I’ve ever witnessed.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 3, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

they’re like grateful dead fans, they become followers. that said, I loved everything they put out except the last album, which was ok. plus I think I kinda outgrew them. but when I want to hear insanely good drumming, musicianship, and neat sounding vocals I’ll throw on one of their earlier albums. like with a lot of bands, I really like certain songs of theirs (undertow, swamp song, jimmy, h, most of lateralus) and get bored with other songs

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought 10k days was okay

vicaious was good, at least

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

wings for marie was pretty cool

had a pink floyd vibe to it. btw, their live shows are somethin else.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

i've heard they are good live

i wouldn’t mind going, but apparently you have to be sitting at your computer refreshing ticketmaster the second tickets go on sale to get a 10% chance at a ticket

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I got to see them twice

huge multimedia extravaganza, mind blowing, etc. one time they exactly had performance artists hanging from ropes doing weird contortionist stuff above the band, never seen that before.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

The coolest thing I saw a band do was

The lead singer from POD crowd surfed standing up. He was standing on peoples hands while still singing and swinging from the rafters.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

are you serious?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

have you really never heard of Tool?

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Never in my life.

And based on the name I’m glad.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

they've been around for 20 years and are pretty popular

but based on your bands from above, i doubt you’d like them.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

PJ thinks I will.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

It is possible that he has never been more wrong.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i was being silleh

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Tool is far different

than anything you have listed above. Very far.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah found a YouTube video.

There a strange creature in it. That’s usually a sign that I will not enjoy them.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Tool is probably my second-favorite band, and I think I can safely say

You would hate their music.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

It was shaping up that way.

I saw the creature and turned it off.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

quitter.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

which song was it?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Schism maybe?

It started off with some creepy noise and I was like y’all are going to have do a lot to win me back. They didn’t.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that's one of their more popular songs i think

i like it, but i’m not suprised you don’t

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

that video is pretty f’ing gross

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Turned it off?

That’s a shame. Remind me to never link an Aphex Twin video then, if weird creatures are your limit. Sigh.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

You can link

this one

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 4, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

ooo

that one’s pretty

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

never heard that before

like it alot

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

some music critics compare him to mozart

I think he’s better

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll take that over mozart

and it’s not even close

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdZs5PVcwBs

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

girl/boy song

awesome

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

obligatory girl talk link

1:11

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Obligatory girl talk +1

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 4, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

this one is lovely

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhHkUg-QCwk

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of really great Aphex Twin music,

has anyone here ever heard the piece he did for Nine Inch Nails’ Further Down the Spiral remix record?

It’s called At the Heart of it All, if I remember correctly, and it’s really phenomenal. I think there are two Rick James tracks on there, but I don’t remember what the other one is.

Also, it has an amazing version of Piggy.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

I've only heard the one song on 26 mixes for cash

that set has some really good tracks on it. the nin remix I remember he seems to be making fun of that one sound effect where it sounds like trent is blowing on a straw or something

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

That's, um,

one of the remixes of Eraser, I think. I don’t recall which one. The disc is buried in the stacks. You should really look up At the Heart…, though. Oddly enough, it’s a completely original composition, not a remix. Some of his best work, too.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

at the heart

hmmm, maybe I have it somewhere in the horde

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

so does he do all the remixes on the downward spiral remix disc?

I actually don’t have that yet

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

I don’t recall who does all of them. I think it’s a variety. James does at least one remix and one original, possibly two. I would have to actually find the record to be sure, though.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

no worries, I'll just get it

I like both aphex and nin so…

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

True.

But I was thinking more of this one.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

heh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

If this is going to be a weird creature thread

I really really wish Saves the Day – Freakish is real

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Y'all really need to discover Owl Cuty.

I have no idea if any of you would like him or not but he’s awesome.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

All of them?

But seriously, I like On the WIng or hello Seattle. Fireflies is the one that I’ve heard on the radio.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I figured it might be too peppy for a lot of people.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I like rainbow veins

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Good one too.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Also Sunburn is really good.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

haven't heard it yet.

I have in my collection
The Saltwater Room
If My Heart Was a House
Vanilla Twilight
Fireflies
Hello Seattle
and a few more I can’t remember.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

You need to get some more.

Tidal Wave, Tip of the Iceberg is super good. I don’t know how I choose even.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

No, they don't.

They can discover a thousand other people doing the same thing much better. Blech.

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by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:07 AM EST up reply actions  

are you serious?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

And they were amazing, once upon a time. Oh, how I long for the days of Prison Sex. (There’s a sentence I never expected to say again.)

If you’re interested, check out Undertow or Anima first. Then, when you’re done with those two, listen to half of Lateralis and ignore everything else.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

aye

snoozefest after Aenima

by heavy metal on Mar 4, 2010 7:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm with you on Tool and I like BB

But BB is too cookie-cutter to crack my Top 5.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I like cookies

I can’t wait to see them in concert May 18

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw them at the Pageant

They put on a good show…for some reason St. Louis is a Breaking Benjamin mecca.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to the All State by Chicago

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I have made a grave mistake

Phil Collins should be inserted at #3 bumping the Foo Fighters down a spot. And I’d probably group Queen with Foreigner.

also, to make sure and keep my street cred, I own and enjoy Tupac’s greatest hits and also enjoy Lil Wayne.

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

this is really hard for me to do, I have lots of faves

in no particular order:

1. Don Caballero
2. Polvo
3. King Crimson
4. jazz
5. electronic music

I totally cheated lol

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

As I expected

I’ve never heard of any of yours (King Crimson sounds vaguely familiar). Jazz and electronic music, excellent

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Paul Oakenfold got me through college

Something about his techno just synced with my brain and I could do homework for hours listening to it.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

King Crimson is one of those bands I wish I knew more about

I really like that prog rock stuff, I am just uneducated and don’t know many bands. Here’s a cool video of them.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

they are a huge influence on a shit load of bands

especially tool and primus, two bands I grew up with. they started the whole prog rock movement for better or worse, there would be no Yes or Genesis, etc without King Crimson, or at least they would have been a lot different. there’s a bbc documentary about the rise of prog rock which is pretty excellent.

if you want to know more about them, simply start with their first album. the song 21st century schizoid man totally sold me on them. robert fripp is a musical genius and has appeared alongside many more well known artists such as bowie, eno, and countless others. the best part is he always sits on a stool live and faces sideways.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And by start with their first album,

you mean start and end with their first album, right?

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by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't

but I think we’ve talked about this before, I love pretty much everything they’ve done (well, except beat, not that big on that one)

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

but I can't stand sigur ros so...

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, they're not very good

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

BORING

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

this is an accurate description

also hey look at us we made up our own language can you think of anything more pretentious than that?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

it's been done before anyway

french prog rock band Magma did that long before they did

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:22 AM EST up reply actions  

We have been down this road before.

I believe it was a dead end, if I remember correctly. (Smirking emoticon here)

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

as are all music arguments

too subjective, people’s tastes are pretty random

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I prefer not to think of it as subjective.

I generally think of it as everyone but me not being able to see they’re wrong.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

that's how I view it also

could lead to problems with the debate

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

True. So very, very true.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

you should hear me and my younger brother go at it

it can get pretty ugly. I basically say he doesn’t understand or comprehend my music. that doesn’t go over very well.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

I just don’t argue with anyone, for the most part. My friend Travis and I still have famous scuffles now and again, but those aren’t as common as they used to be even.

And my brother still thinks Juvenile’s first record is the best thing he’s ever heard, so it’s clear there’s really no debate to be had there.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:43 AM EST up reply actions  

my brother's tastes overlap with mine quite a bit

but we also diverge a lot on stuff. he likes more simple stuff with clean melodies and whatnot, and I tend to prefer complexity with some dissonance, which he does not enjoy very much.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

now that I am older and wiser though

I have learned not to get into arguments about music though, I just like really weird stuff that most people aren’t into (although I do have friends who know what I’m talking about, that I meet randomly at bars or concerts)

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually like the later albums w/ Adrian Belew best

esp. Disclipline (incredible) but I like Beat too.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Mar 4, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Discipline is indeed incredible

and Adrian Belew is an extremely underrated guitarist and singer

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

also

thanks for the vid, they have so many I haven’t seen them all. if you’ve seen children of men, they have a song on that soundtrack from their first album called epitaph, I think it’s my theme song, the main chorus goes “confusion will be my epitaph”

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Coolness!

Thanks for the info. Starless and Bible Black is the first song of theirs I ever heard, so I have a soft spot for it.
One of these days I will have to take a more in-depth look at them.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

they have been around so long and have had tumultuous lineup changes

so they have different eras to the band. I’m becoming almost like a historian about them heh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

metal should be on there too

it’s really freakin hard asking a guy who has like 20 favorite bands what his top 5 are lol

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

not sure why

but I envision you listening to Five Finger Death Punch

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

1. Metallica
2. Pennywise
3. Tech N9ne
4. Styx
5. Ted Nugent

This just made me realize I have a giant music collection but don’t have anything relatively new.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Cowboy Mouth
2. Great Big Sea
3. Gaelic Storm
4. Carbon Leaf
5. um… Green Day?

by WyoCardsFan on Mar 3, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

...

1. Pearl Jam
2. The Beatles
3. Led Zeppelin
4. The Who
5. Blue Oyster Cult

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 3, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Blue Öyster Cult:

Their concept album Imaginos was kinda trippy. Probably not their best work, but I just about wore the tape out anyway. The mythic imagery was alluring.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 3, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

don’t fear the reaper, godzilla, and burnin for you are classics, love those tunes

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't Fear the Reaper has been overexposed due to the SNL cowbell skit though

Burning for You is incredible. Shiny Toy Guns have a pretty sweet cover version, as well

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 4, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

burning for you is one of the best rock songs without a doubt

fu manchu does an amazing cover of godzilla, fear the reaper is still classic, I just don’t watch that skit that often

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

man

these songs are goin on my mp3 player asap

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I just pulled up the Wikipedia page for Imaginos

Joe Satriani was brought in for lead guitar on “The Siege and Investiture of Baron von Frankenstein’s Castle at Weisseria”, which is, of course, my favorite song title of all time. Didn’t know that Satriani was in on it, though.

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by The Continental on Mar 4, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

me neither… virtuoso

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

big fan of BOC until "I'm burnin' for you"

and if I hear Don’t Fear again I may have to hurt myself.

I really like the record they have that has the song “Mirrors” on it.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Mar 4, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

blue oyster cult rulz, this song always gets stuck in my head

You said youd be here at a quarter to five
I didnt know if you were dead or alive
How long you think that I can sharpen my knife
Ive got better things to do with my life

Its almost the deadline
Dont miss the deadline, darling
When all your bad dreams will come true

Dont miss the deadline
Its almost the deadline, darling
I wouldnt want it to happen to you

Phil screamed at him, and he hung up the phone
I wonder if he ever felt more alone
He never finished his coffee that night
The photo they showed david was a terrible sight

He missed the deadline
He passed the deadline, darling
And I believe that somehow he knew

He crossed the deadline
He passed the deadline, darling
There wasnt a thing anybody could do

Listen my darling, now, dont play with fire
You find a way to balance faith and desire

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

consequences are easily misconstrued

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

heaven forbid

Just got around to hearing this album the last few weeks and was blown away. Their best. Live For Me is such an excellent song. BOC makes me feel like i’m IN the song.

by heavy metal on Mar 4, 2010 7:06 AM EST up reply actions  

that's a really good way of putting it

on their best songs they conjure some kind of magic, and they transport you some where… few bands can do that imo

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

1. Queen (along with various solo / side projects)
2. Miles Davis
3. Alice In Chains
4. Diana Krall
5. Bjork

Plus: Johnny Cash, Foo Fighters, Suzanne Vega, Green Day, The Breeders

Pretty mainstream, I guess. What can I say? I was raised on radio.

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by The Continental on Mar 3, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions  

miles!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

is peeing your pants cool?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Um?

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by The Continental on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

billy madison

“if peeing your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis.”

Doesn’t ring a bell?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, sorry. Haven't seen it.

Carry on.

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by The Continental on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

"Lady that's the grossest thing I've ever heard!"

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 4, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

If so

I’m Miles Davis

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by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Here I go:

1. My Bloody Valentine
2. The Jesus & Mary Chain
3. Gang of Four
4. Joy Division
5. The Kinks

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

no meat puppets?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

thought you would have a problem with the "meat" part

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

There's Lotsa Meat Out There...

And we’ll leave it at that!

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

but damn, i was gonna bring up meatloaf

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh...

…in his videos he always has his long, stringy greasy hair in his mouth!

:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

So am I

but I stick to pizza!
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

probably nutrients in that grease

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

gang of four!

mbv!
kinks!

good list, dude, err — moode

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

;=8)

Seen ’em all live except for Joy Division – that would have been tough

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i would imagine

i’ve only seen a cow at a show once!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

state fair maybe

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

and Honorable Mention Goes to:

The Angry Samoans!!!
:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Lights Out!

There’s nothing more you can leave behind
So forget about seeing, get into your mind
Everything looks better when the world is black
Grab a fork, make the first attack

Lights out!
Poke poke, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
Put a pen in your hand, poke your eyes out

I can’t see too well, what’s it all about?
Well I dunno man, did you poke your eyes out?
Sure thing, I did it today, startin’ to get hip to the lights out way

Lights out!
Poke poke, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
[Put yourself on the floor], roll all about

If you poke too far you reach the front of your brain
Fork in your mind can drive you insane!
Don’t worry much, just let it rip, today your eyeballs do the lights out trip

Lights out!
Put a pen in your hand, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
Poke poke, poke your eyes out
Lights out!
Put an ax in your head, poke your eyes out!

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

it almost got to me

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions  

ah shit

My Bloody Valentine! where’s Jesus Lizard, cow? I forgot to put them in my top 5, well, they are close anyway

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Good Band

liked ’em better when they were Scratch Acid

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 3, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

How about Josef K?

I ask because you mention Gang of Four.

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by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

good call on The Kinks

they might be the single most underrated band in modern pop/rock history.

by mattyp on Mar 4, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I have their best of on vinyl

what’s that one song of theirs about the yacht? they are really good

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

have y'all

seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybUFnY7Y8w

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 4, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

ah damn

 you just took it to a whole new level

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 4, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

us gen x'ers sure make all the aughts music sounds pretty tame, eh?

late 80s and early 90s were pretty nuts, loved it

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

impressive

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 4, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah it was

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

That was like the Incredible Machine

OK Go definitely has some of the more creative videos of this generation

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by jd is legend on Mar 4, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

another one of my faves

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3hJ5-ngUow

it’s instrumental, so if you don’t like the rush singer’s voice… it’s some YYZ for ya

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

My favorite Rush song

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

The new Gorillaz record is really great.

Love Contra, too. The Doors are a weird case. I want to call them overrated, but somehow I just can’t. There’s something very attractive about how ridiculous Jim Morrison was, even though I should hate what he was. Hmph.

And Daft Punk are on my shit list until they start releasing records at a more reasonable rate.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That's true.

But still. I do love like a third of their songs, though.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

most bands are like that for me, I really like certain songs (sometimes it’s their hits, but usually it’s the more obscure ones) but most of the discography is pretty boring.

a good example is blue oyster cult, like 5 of their songs are some of the best rock tunes ever written imo, but the rest of their songs are pretty boring (and that’s a lot of songs). I guess they put all their chips into those 5 songs lol

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Sublime and the Doors are my numbers 1 and 2

because there honestly isn’t a song that I’ve heard from either band that I don’t like. The funny thing with Daft Punk is that I’ve only discovered them in the last 3-4 years (you wouldn’t be surprised at all how few people in the South like/have heard of Daft Punk) and their last studio album came out in 2005. So basically for my entire fandom, they haven’t come out with a new studio album. But that’s okay, because the stuff they have come out with has yet to get old for me, and I don’t envision it ever doing so. “Digital Love” is an incredible love song, and one of my very favorite songs period.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 4, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, well,

I’ve been a fan since 1995, when they were on the Saint soundtrack (and yes, it IS painful to admit that’s how I came to be a fan), and they’ve only put out about two records since then. So, like I said, I’m tired of waiting. To hell with those French sonsabitches.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Doors

I disliked a lot of the songs on LA Woman. Most of their earlier albums are totally awesome though.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:55 AM EST up reply actions  

although oddly

“Been down so long” remains one of my favourites of theirs, along with Five To One and Touch Me. They have an odd touch with blues music, because I REALLY like their version of Back Door Man too, but their Crawling Kingsnake (from LA Woman) isn’t a patch on John Lee Hooker

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:28 AM EST up reply actions  

In no particular order, and beyond the top couple I think it'd be pretty interchangeable based on mood:

I’d also probably pick differently if this was a “desert island” type thing, as I’d want some more variable styles (I’d probably want a jazz record or two and some Zappa, and maybe a couple of blues compilations).

Richard Thompson
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds (perhaps to include some Birthday Party too?)
Rolling Stones
Ian Siegal
John Cale

Perhaps Queen to replace the Stones if I’m feeling in a particularly frivolous mood.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Meh. Five is very difficult actually.

I’d struggle if I never was able to listen to Babybird, The Clash, The Who, White Stripes, The Jam, Imelda May etc. ever again. Lots of folk music, lots of blues music (esp. Buddy Guy’s earlier stuff and BB King’s Live at the Regal), a guy no-one’s ever heard of called Merz. In various moods all of these could be in the top 5.

Thompson and Cave are definitely 1 and 2, but beyond that it’s difficult.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 6:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and Talking Heads.

totally forgot my love of everything David Byrne related. Sheesh.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't going to do this, but hey now I am.

My top five that scarcely changes:
The Smiths,
Radiohead,
Modest Mouse
Conor Oberst
Whatever Jimmy Tamborello is doing (Dntel, Postal Service, etc.)

Top lately:
Cold Cave
Miike Snow
Crystal Castles
Peter, Bjorn, and John
Hot Chip

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 4, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

FUCK

I forgot the Smiths on mine. I guess they’d be about #3 or something, actually. This is why I should never make lists.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, here goes

1. anything w/ Dave Edmunds and/or Nick Lowe
2. Robbie Fulks
3. Los Straitjackets
4. Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Chet Atkins, etc. (classic bakersfield & honky tonk country)
5. Jimmy Vaughan

Yes, I’m a roots-oriented guitar player.

youneverknow

by floodOfLove on Mar 4, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i need to get it

will be in class tomorrow during the game

anyone know if tomorrow’s game will be blacked out?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It's on MLB.com,

I doubt it would be blacked out, but I don’t know.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Not MLB.com

MLB network.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

No blackouts for mlb.tv spring training games

SD quality only though according to the main subscription page.

by ubeddie on Mar 3, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

that'll work!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The android version is out now too

Getting it now…

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 4, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Had to manually uninstall the Beta before it would install

but it’s hooked up now. This looks really nice.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 4, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

prophetic

(I may ask pj to weigh in, even)

I was looking for mojo’s quote about Braun drawing a penis in the dust (it’s from the All-Star Game) when I came across this… a fire Hal McRae thread from October 11. Hilarity ensued!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:36 PM EST reply actions  

speaking of which

did anybody hear about braun pulling an ankiel?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i just did

go figure, I go afk for a few hours. braun happens!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

he's going lefty?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

nvm....

just saw Yadi’s post below.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

reply fail

seemed to be my course of action there. i have no recall, so i’ll just blame sbn.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 6:41 PM EST up reply actions  

needed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSvAPL8CAe8

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

wtf - never knew hal was a chipmunk

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

That ASG thread is the most fun I've ever had in a VEB thread

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

stuff and more stuff

were pretty epic.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

the game that wouldn't end was awesome

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

dodgers?

how many overflows did we end up with?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it was a baker's dozen

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

That was wicked

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

a 7th inning nap

I cannot think of much which would enrage Carp more.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

by my count,

and this crappy SBN search engine…5 overflows a, RB post, and a game thread I can’t seem to find.
Also, that was the day that Dan made rec’s serious.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That game was epic, too

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Greatest thread stream in VEB history?

Game 2 of a double header vs Nationals.

Line of the century?
Azru: “Franklin, you threw that same pitch 5 seconds ago.” – With gameday proof.

I about pissed my pants.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

that was freakin awesome

oh the day we all started to hate Dukes

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 3, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

That was a long ass day.

That was the day I traded with Larry to get the draft, and ended up putting up three full draft threads and enough to cover a double header as well.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

oh hell, there's news!

okay, I’m gonna spam.

Ken Macha’s life flashes before eyes as LF Ryan Braun crashes into gate attempting catch of foul liner during intrasquad game. He’s OK. about 3 hours ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

Sugar Shane!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

I bet Craig starts 1B tomorrow

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

sugar shane is moving to the infield

which i guess = 2b?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

let's hope boog ties a string around his finger (or wrist?)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if TLR would be willing to tell some Boogaholics (their word)

what the latest reminder is, so they can sit above the opposing dugout with a big sign for Brendan.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Leach's blog

http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/wednesday_camp_tidbits_t-minus.html

Same content as the first link, basically, with a few more tidbits.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

moar unicorns.

http://twitter.com/GoElBirdos/status/9941150878
GoElBirdos JSL stating Pujols will push to be the games highest paid player. Ruh roh. #stlcards

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:52 PM EST reply actions  

As well he should be.

He’s only making 7M more than Lugo this year! We seriously owe him a lot of money for his last contract.

by Mister Eff on Mar 3, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

who's JSL and who's GoElBirdos?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

JSL = Strauss Live

and I think GEL is that guy who used to be VEB but wasn’t us-VEB.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Gah! the unicorns are clearly failing... Introducing Cthulhunicorn!

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

which will be instantly confused with the centiquid

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

This is so awesome I can't even describe it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

GODZILLA!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Gojiricorn?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe that works.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

It's the best I could think of

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

actual quote
It’s my strong believe that Pujols will push to become the game’s highest-paid player.

In other words, the* is just shit stirring. Again.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what I figured

thanks

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Stan to beat strauss with his cane

i’m not even a remotely violent person

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

it wouldn't surprise me

strauss isn’t the first person i’ve seen report that. people saying that, say, mauer is more willing to take a discount to help his team

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying it won't happen....

but Albert hasn’t seemed to push that agenda in my eyes.Strauss does have a good point though when he says that waiting until after this season makes Albert a 5/10 guy which gives him a lot of leverage knowing that they can’t trade him if they don’t sign him.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions  

also, Albert despises Strauss, right?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

...

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Brian Barden went 3 for 3

http://twitter.com/JohnMarecek/status/9946607384

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 6:58 PM EST reply actions  

he hits well during the springtime

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

BFFs!

flickr of LaRue and Carp

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 PM EST reply actions  

carp looks like a child who constantly out-grows his clothes

but in a bad-ass way

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, that's Dunc's

see caption

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

though, yeah.

I see it now.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

so that's where my jacket went.

you’re over 6 ft, Chris, give the 5’6" guy his coat back

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 3, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

he's Carp

he has rights to your luggage

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

one day Tony may kill me
  1. TLR: “Yadi would make a great CF, b/c he’s a talented guy and he would get gr8 jumps….#stlcards ”http://twitter.com/JohnMarecek/status/9929139696" target="new">about 8 hours ago via Seesmic
  2. ….. He probably doesn’t have the foot speed to play CF. I mean that sincerley." #stlcards about 8 hours ago via Seesmic

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:05 PM EST reply actions  

the hell, sbn.

http://twitter.com/JohnMarecek/status/9929139696

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

more from Marecek

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:12 PM EST reply actions  

KTRS' flickr stream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/47629226@N06/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

funny, the photo of big mac and his escort off the field

big mac twice the size – who’s escorting who?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

that was from last week, I think

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

motte needs to throw a strike

it’s batting practice (and greene).

and razzums batted between pujols and holliday. love how he ran into the box as soon as apu stepped out – think he knows carp doesn’t like to be kept waiting.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

the wind is gusting pretty bad

Carp was annoyed with it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

As it's Greene

I think he most definitely does NOT need to throw a strike.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

haha

don’t talk about your boy like that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 6, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

any video of Flopez yet?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't recall any

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

FSM video

Brad Penny

Ah, dang. I can’t easily direct-link. There are a ton of videos with various players getting re-acquainted with The Cat.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

LOL

If you’re on Twitter, you’ve got to follow this:
@OldHossRadbourn

“Hi Albert, I’m Mark. I’m going to be your hitting coach.” “Hi Mark, I’m the best hitter you’ve ever seen.” “Oh look, there’s Jason LaRue.”

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 8:05 PM EST reply actions  

that twitter always makes me think christy mathewson needs to tweet.

get on it, danup!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 3, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

2

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 4, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

3

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

hooray!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 4, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

we playin the mets

man, I wish I had cable

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm guessin I'd have to watch it at work though

that might be pressing my luck a bit much

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i WAS eating

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

ANOTHER FANPOST!!!

Where is our moderation? Where are our leaders? They stole our women!

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

Durk-a-durr!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

quozquil dur ker

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

de tuk er jerbs!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

delete all the fanposts!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I feel like we've lowered our standards to the point

that we are a MLS team blog!

I would have used a team name if I knew a MLS team’s name!!!

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 3, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

soccer is my archnemesis!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

hey

I grew up and played some little league baseball near east moline

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

wait

I don’t see any new ones

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

the newest one has been up there for 2 days

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions  

yah

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I know what happened

I think it got deleted already. and there was another fantasy baseball one on there that was deleted because my the tenacity of the d post is now showing when it wasn’t before

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

basically I go on a short "rant" about going back to form on defense

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't think it's what dj need to do

i think it’s what needs to happen to one of luddy, holliday, colby or mather/craig

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

maim

oddly, Lugo is trying to get everyone by being really nice.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i just have to chuckle

at how Zumaya could throw his career in jeopardy by playing Guitar Hero and dropping boxes. Sad at the same time.

by zoomzoomj88 on Mar 3, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

g-d listed out the XBox addicts

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

wasn't the colonel waiting at some mall at midnight

for some new game, and we all thought it must be colby, or maybe boog?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure he always died immediately

but played a good game.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Everything felt good

The results just weren’t what he was looking for

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

He was shooting great

it’s just bad luck sometimes when you absorb 20 headshots within the first 12 seconds of gameplay.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:45 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it was the pvt, yes.

he found a tournament at midnight in Houston.

Lohse recently disclosed that he was in charge of the post-game music.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

and the bbq grill?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

i think andi_k had some, uh, baking stories.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh

I saw that coming, and it was awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 3, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I think even John Jay is more likely of making it

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

definitely

probably henley, too plus the obvious ones

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

uh oh

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

like i said

this is like the beginning of a Columbo or the end of a CSI

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

"The Cardinals had the best chance outside of the Yankees! You wanted to be on that bandwagon! Didn't you!

The DNA doesn’t lie!!"

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

cody

read today’s short post by eric at futureredbirds.net – dj tools is mentioned (for not being mentioned)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Carp is throwing

a splitter.

On Wednesday, Carpenter showcased a pitch he’s trying to deploy this season — a split-finger fastball. He stunned Skip Schumaker with one and then got Albert Pujols to swing over one on an 0-2 pitch. Carpenter threw a split several seasons ago, but in his search for a more reliable changeup, he’s trying to reintroduce it as an option. Games will tell him if it works.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 3, 2010 9:01 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

i was about to amend my post to ask if this meant his arm was gonna fall off

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

shiiiiiiit

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

What pitch was it that time?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

but...but...this is a more reliable changeup

does that mean it’s more liable to blow up his damn arm? where are the pitch police – somebody get duncan on the line.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

AWW FUCK

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 3, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

hey Merriam, what's up

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

that was quick...and thanks!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 3, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

that's why I got upset about the chitown'd thing

I’m usually on top of shit like a mofo

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

-wick

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

rec'd

-wick

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 3, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, cool

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

because he really needs one after last season

crosses fingers it works out

that said, the splitfinger has always been my favorite pitch since I was a youngin

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

effers on SyFy

making fun of Lebanon, Missouri.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:07 PM EST reply actions  

no kidding

though “a war-torn part of Missouri” is a hit on Beirut too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm part Lebanese from way back

my grandma’s grandma or something

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

that is to funny

In college we used to make fun of Lebanon, Missouri all the time. It was a running joke.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions  

help with filling out a pdf file

So, I’m trying to apply for a job and the app is available as a pdf file. I’ve filled in all the information but some of the info is longer than the text box allows for. When I printed it out, the showing text prints with a + at the end. My question is, do I have to print a blank form and write in the info, or is there a way to resize the boxes/text?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:21 PM EST reply actions  

it depends on if the pdf files is locked, which it probably is

in which case, you will have to use handwriting. if it’s not locked and is savable, you can enter the text on the puter

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

shit

that sounded like a canned technical support response, sorry about that. misunderstood your question at first.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

it is savable

I already saved it. Now what?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

can you make the font smaller when you fill out the boxes?

is there a way to edit the box shapes? I’m not sure…

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

you can save a copy of most pdfs, locked or unlocked.

if you hover over an entry line, can you click on it?

a lot of sites have pdf’s that you can edit in their online form, but saving it actually forecloses the possibility of editing it.

if there is no online editable version, you have to have acrobat, not acrobat reader, to edit it.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 3, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i can edit

in the online and the saved file. The saved file is saved as a fillable

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

just the boxes

that the text is too long to fit in, so just a handful

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

for a government position?

which would be better, all handwritten or half handwritten? Thanks for the help.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

do not do it in crayons!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 9:48 PM EST up reply actions  

my friend was telling me a story

How she cheated on a spelling test by using a green crayon. Because the word she couldn’t spell write was green and it was printed on the crayon.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

she couldn't spell green?

and she had crayons on her?

you should hang out with older women…or at least, women.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Flim's girlfriend called him a pedophile

Flim said, “Pedophile? That’s an awfully big word for a 7-year-old!”

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

if it's CIA

use disappearing ink

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

not hardly

VA hospital. . . not nearly as exciting.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

my friend works at one of those in albuquerque

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I downloaded the viewer

and that wont let me re-size the font either. The option is there but apparently its locked. So, I guess I have to make a decision. Thanks anway

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

abbrs?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

update

Decided to go with some abbreviations and a nice helping of “see curriculum vitae” for the problem data, which was basically being repeated anyway. Now I’m off to Wal-Mart at 11:41 at night to get some freaking ink so I can get this thing in the mail tomorrow and not have to worry about it any more. If only I didn’t have to be at work at 7 in the morning!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 4, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

fax? email?

might save you a trip

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

no can do

site requires either a hand delivered or mailed copy. I’m back already. 2 stranges things that happened on the trip: the radio station I was listening to was playing “Check my brain” both when I went into Wal-Mart and as soon as I got back in my car. Other thing, the nice couple I walked up behind in one of the only 2 running checkouts let me go in front of them. They had a full cart, I had one ink cartrige. Thank God for random acts of kindness!

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 4, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions  

has anyone bought the newest the show game yet?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 9:22 PM EST reply actions  

re: the tool discussion

what do you tool fans think of a perfect circle?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:37 PM EST reply actions  

this question brings a full 360 to this thread.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

why do they call it xbox360?

because when you see it, you’ll turn 360 degrees and walk away

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

what?

you mean you walk towards it.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

that’s why it’s funny

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Guess I gotta explain this again

Link.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

like a jason kidd 360?

because he turned the dallas mavericks around 360 degrees

by zoomzoomj88 on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I like them

except their covers album was absolutely horrible.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it wasn't that great

i think i like them better than tool

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I like their first album best

the second one can get a little too depressing at times… but it’s still really good

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

before you go there

puscifer sucks btw

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Puscifer is awesome and I hate you

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I love you though

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions  

U NO I CANT STAY MAD AT U

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 3, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I think if you took the three best songs from a PC record,

and the four best songs from a Tool record, you could make one really good Tool record.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 4, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

if someone re-opens this discussion again

we’re going to be blogging in a 5-tool thread.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

According to the WWL

Upton signs $51.25M, 6-year deal

He gets a $1.25 million signing bonus, half on April 15 and the rest on July 15. He receives salaries of $500,000 this year, $4.25 million in 2011, $6.75 million in 2012, $9.75 million in 2013, $14.25 million in 2014 and $14.5 million in 2015.

kinda reminds me of Albert’s deal

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, he signed a day or two ago

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn

Maryland doing work on Duke

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 3, 2010 9:40 PM EST reply actions  

this is a cool picture

http://www.globe-democrat.com/photos/2010/mar/03/2928/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:43 PM EST reply actions  

who is that in the center

talking at tony?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it's pettini

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

so I'm watching that 60s tv show The Prisoner

and #6 is a very serious character…. hmmm

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 9:45 PM EST reply actions  

awesome, awesome show

have you seen it before? The ending is…. weird. Up there with Captain Scarlet for most incongruous and baffling ending to a long-running TV show.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

looks like I'm a mongolian warlord sea captain

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

waring mongolian sea captain

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 3, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't know a mustache counted as a beard.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

So Super Wizard is like Gandalf right?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 3, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

or Saruman… Radagast the Brown is just a regular old wizard though

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 3, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

matt kemp?

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 3, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had the Hitler, the Butler, and the Selleck!

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 3, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

sweet, one of the things I was waiting for...

Halski’s shots from the ad shoot. he doles ’em out slow, though.

I AM RYAN F. LUDWICK

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:17 PM EST reply actions  

yeah, i'm ryan ludwick

the fuck of it?

i’m gonna miss the dude when he’s gon

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

mark my words...!!

(I did add it to my profile. click the “…”)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I was a tremendous nerd

and looked up some old/middle english.
I don’t like how it ends, I want to go “we boden”, except I’m not sure everyone agrees with the prophecy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

do you really like cotton candy?

i’m not saying i don’t, i’m just thinking i wouldn’t anymore…after all this time.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I do indeed like cotton candy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I LOVE cotton candy…

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

it's the only food where you can safely ignore

the “bigger than your head” rule.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

that and bacon.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

mmmm bacon flavored cotoon candy

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

*cotton

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

lolll

i had not heard of this rule

maybe that’s where i’m going wrong

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

don't eat anything bigger than it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

it could've been the opposite

‘always’

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

which head?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 4, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

ok

i was watching two men chow on it at the norleans hornets game the other night…guess it wasn’t as odd as i thought

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions  

but I only eat it at Busch, hence its presence in my profile.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 3, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That should be his scoreboard pic at Busch.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 3, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

anyone read this business on the g-d?
In recent months, Cardinals overseas scouts have been busy, with 21 new players recently signed to contracts for the upcoming season and another five pending.

http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/mar/03/minor-league-notebook-cardinals-sign-dominican-out/#c6773

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 3, 2010 11:56 PM EST reply actions  

old news, pj

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 3, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I the only one crazy about yadi's projection by mlb fantasy?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:18 AM EST reply actions  

that's sweet

those 12 sb’s stood out, as i believe there is a wager on that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

well what's your baseline crazy?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 4, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

do you mean my expectation from Yadi?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

nah

how crazy are you to begin with?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 4, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

not at all crazy, unless you call an unhealthy infatuation of bacon "crazy"

MEs got to have mi bacon.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

you're just sucking up to moocow

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

you obviously haven't been paying attention.

ME LIKE BACON.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

bacon infused bacon

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

probably that

career highs across the board

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

If yadi has a .384 OBP this lineup will destroy the NL Central.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

any catchers not named mauer project higher than .782ops?

this seems a stretch

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe victor martinez and/or mccann?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

and wieters

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:34 AM EST up reply actions  

brain twin?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought maybe weiters, but the al east will be hard on him

even those names seem high

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I guess not facing the orioles in the AL east will do that.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

worst position in the game: hitting yankees, sawks, rays, jays

while having to catch orioles

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Weiters is a lock to break .800

but time will tell, I guess. McCann and VMart certainly should be in that range. Buster Posey is another possible, but I doubt he does it this year.

Maybe Iannetta, given his home turf? A healthy Ryan Doumit?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 4, 2010 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

seems very generous… that OBP would be a godsend for the C spot. hope it happens though!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:32 AM EST up reply actions  

hell yeah!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

weird.

at least he’s still trying really hard

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe .209 average in the AL?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

whoa he's swinging with his eyes open, he'll destroy us all!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

heh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

We're doooooooooommmmeed!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 4, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

he took greinke deep

on 4 of 10 pitches. interesting

i hope he mashes

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

sometimes a change of scenery can do wonders

or it was a wake up call to him that the cards didn’t want him back

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't think he wanted to be back

after taking a back seat to colby last year

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

it was time for him to move on, and I wish him the best (unless somehow we face the royals in the world series, at which point I hope he goes back to sucking)

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 4, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

p-d commenter on the ankiel story
Thompson had the best curveball since Gibson

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 4, 2010 2:11 AM EST reply actions  

then we definitely screwed up

wish he would’ve said something sooner

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 4, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

That's a gem

I just saw an interview where Gibby said he only threw fastballs and sliders

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 4, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

1124 comments?

Damn. I mean… damn.

I like this quote:

Anthony Ranaudo is a monster, plain and simple. He’s a huge, beastly pitching machine, with a low- to mid-90s fastball he forces down in the zone from his perch high above the world.

So, basically, he’s an alien battle platform raining fastballs down upon the world. Awesome. I saw him throw in the CWS last year, obviously, and he’s quite good. Quite good indeed.

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

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