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head-to-head matchups - phillies v. cardinals

the red baron did a fine job this winter of taking a look at our competitors within the division. i thought it would make some sense to take a look at the teams most likely to make the postseason. today, i want to take a look at the matchup between the cardinals and the phillies.

the pitching WAR projections use the FANS system. i won't vouch for the accuracy of the FANS system, but i will say the numbers seem pretty reasonable on all points.

first, the starting pitching:

Name

FANS WAR

Name

FANS WAR

Chris Carpenter

4.7

Roy Halladay

6.4

Adam Wainwright

5.4

Cole Hamels

3.8

Brad Penny

2.1

Joe Blanton

2.6

Kyle Lohse

2.2

J.A. Happ

2.3

Jaime Garcia

0.7*

J. Moyer/K. Kendrick

0.7/0.4*

Total

15.1

Total

15.8/15.5

*no FANS projections exist, so i made these numbers up. if you like other numbers, adjust accordingly. i doubt either player should be expected to be worth more than a win. jaime's CHONE projected FIP is 4.76 and kendrick's is 4.90.

the bullpens are fairly unimportant in terms of overall value. a WAG for the phils bullpen: should it feature lidge (0.6), madson (1.2), romero (0), baez(0.3), durbin(0), bastardo (0.1), contreras (0.5*), it would be worth 2.7 wins. the cards bullpen, featuring franklin (0.3), reyes (0.3*), miller (0.4*), mcclellan (0.3*), motte (0.6), boggs (0.2**), and hawksworth (0.1), for a total value of 2.2 wins.

** this value is made up too, since the existing projection looks at boggs as a starter, not a reliever.

both teams are fairly evenly matched, with the phillies leading the cards by about a win on pitching, at roughly 18 to 17 runs total. 

to provide a comp, the 2009 cards ran up a 19.3 pitching WAR total for 8th best in the majors, so the cards should expect a modest drop from the 2009 performance but not necessarily huge. last year, the phils had a total pitching WAR of 13.3, which put them in the bottom third of the majors, so they will likely be FAR better on the pitching front than they were last year. obviously, having roy halladay for a full season will almost certainly be more valuable than having cliff lee for two months. 

a small quibble is that they are paying moyer a ridiculous amount of money to be a marginally-above replacement value starter, if they don't give the job to kendrick. having only tolerable options for your fifth starter is not a huge problem, but they really missed out on a chance to add a cheap win in that last rotation spot. had they limited moyer to a one-year deal in 2008 (and i find it hard to believe anyone else was offering a 45 year-old a two-year deal), the payroll flexibility would have let them pick up a decent 5th starter like doug davis. braden looper could do about what moyer will do for a mil or so.

Star-divide

let's take a look at how the phillies starters stack up against the cardinals starting eight.

Name

CHONE WAR

Pos

Name

CHONE WAR

Yadier Molina

3.5

C

Carlos Ruiz

2.4

Albert Pujols

7.2

1B

Ryan Howard

4.4

Skip Schumaker

1.6

2B

Chase Utley

6.1

Brendan Ryan

2.7

SS

Jimmy Rollins

3.8

David Freese

1.8

3B

Placido Polanco

3.0

Matt Holliday

4.9

LF

Raul Ibanez

2.0

Colby Rasmus

3.4

CF

Shane Victorino

2.9

Ryan Ludwick

2.0

RF

Jayson Werth

3.2

Total

27.1

Total

27.8

i feel bad for doubting my team - i readily admit that i expected the difference between the two squads to be much different. i would have guessed that the phillies were 2-3 wins better in the field. if you throw in the bench figures, the cardinals take the lead.

my uneducated stabs at the likely phils bench give us infielder juan castro (-0.5), greg dobbs (0.6), ross gload (-0.3), ben francisco (2.2), and backup catcher brian schneider (1.5), for a net of 3.5 WAR. a lugo (0.6), lopez (2.5), mather (0.6), craig (1.4), and larue (0.4) bench would make for a 5.5 WAR bench.

if you're a phillies fan, there's a ton to like about this team. first off, no one should be allowed to discuss the phillies without pointing out that chase utley remains the most underrated player on the team. he is consistently among the five best position players in the league. the phillies as a whole are a very well-rounded team. they don't have a single starting position player below average. their rotation is good, though not overwhelming, featuring maybe the best pitcher in the league.

if the phillies have a weakness, they should be concerned about their depth, especially in the infield. both infielders on their roster are projected to be at or below replacement value. remember that they are backing up an infield of players all 30 years old or older. the outfield depth is more likable, especially ben francisco. francisco is a great young talent to watch - an average defensive corner outfielder, he brings a nice bat. he projects to have a .352 wOBA. schneider is a talented backup, but had trouble staying on the field last year.

to provide a reference for the values above, the phillies had a total position player value of 28.0 - adding in the bench values, the phillies will likely get a bump of a couple wins from last year, mostly from a rollins rebound and polanco being an upgrade over feliz. 

the cardinals on the other hand project to have a huge bump from last year's 19 WAR performance by position players - around ten WAR. that's a tremendous improvement. only two players project below replacement value and both are within spitting distance of it; the difference will likely be made up by platooning with felipe lopez. you also have to like the depth we have on the bench over the below replacement value players we put out there last year. our bench players are both more talented and more defensively flexible than our bench players last year. it is somewhat concerning that two of our hardest to replace players have already gotten injured - brendan ryan and yadier molina.

only two teams got a 30 WAR or better performance from their position players last year (the yanks and the rays), but both the phillies and the cardinals project to put out that kind of value this year. these two teams are the class of the NL and look, on paper, like 90+ win teams. 

they match up fairly evenly in a series as well. one thing worth considering in one-on-one play is the left-handedness of the philadelphia team. 

ryan howard's lifetime wOBA v. RHP: .431

ryan howard's lifetime wOBA v. LHP: .322

albert pujols' lifetime wOBA v. RHP: .433

albert pujols' lifetime wOBA v. LHP: .457

garcia is our only left-handed starter, barring a resurgent rich hill in the next couple months. however, we have a set of very effective left-handed relievers who could be well-employed against howard and the other sinister phillies.

 obviously, there's a lot of baseball to be played between now and october but this seems like a pretty even matchup between the cardinals and the phillies.

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Interesting stuff

I like how Pujols is just as good against righties as the lefty slugger Howard is. There are so many fun ways of demonstrating how awesome Albert Pujols is.
Are you using CHONE for the lineup WAR? It’ll be interesting to see how over- and under-performs their projections, on both teams. The Phillies lineup seems like it is made up of more known quantities (at least it does to me). Ours is a tad more unpredictable.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 27, 2010 9:01 AM EDT reply actions  

matty - I liked how you considered predictability

In many other statistical applications, a greater emphasis is placed on risk/reliability or variability in predictions. Regardless, tom did a nice job of comparing expected values of both teams.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's always something to keep in mind

Chase Utley is way more likely to meet a certain projection than say, David Freese. Freese could bottom out and totally suck, or he could surprise everybody.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 27, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent work

Perhaps this comes partly as a result of reading this after spending an awesome day with my girlfriend, but this piece made me feel downright giddy. Not even the comparison so much, although it is nice to see that our team stacks up so well against the cream of the NL crop. It’s also just sinking in that all the best laid plans of our FO actually seem to be building a solid foundation for the organization.

I haven’t posted much (if anything) since last fall, but I’ve been lurking like a mofo, and I also wanted to say thanks to DanUp and the crew (not to mention all the fanpost authors and thoughtful commenters — ya’ll dont get enough credit for all the work you put into that stuff) for the amazing job you guys did getting me through the long cold Korean winter. Although, it’s still snowing here, at least as of yesterday… but ya know… baseball!!! T-9 days and counting! GOB bless us, every one.

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by el birdo in soko on Mar 27, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Tiny Tim's in Korea?

How do you like kimchi? I heard SPAM is big in Korea, is that true? I had a Korean friend who loved SPAM with noodles.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

our Korean contingent is increasing!

awesome.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have a backup in the Avenge Scott Rolen Plan?

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

though unaware of his mission

it’s why he was sent there.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kimchi is awesome

Seriously, I love it. I went home for a few weeks around Christmas, and I started to crave it after a week or so. It’s spicy, salty, and sour all at the same time. After a workout, it’s pretty much the perfect food, especially when it’s served really cold. And yeah… Spam is big here. There’s even a really popular “traditional Korean” soup that is made from chili pepper paste, cabbage, bean sprouts, tofu, and spam. It’s like… one of these things is not like the others, know what I mean? The soup is actually pretty good though, and just a little weird. And I’m sure you could through some ramen (or ramyun, as they’re called here) noodles in there and it would definitely appeal to the majority of Koreans.

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by el birdo in soko on Mar 27, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like you are well acclimated. Congratulations!

I do enjoy kimchi, although it depends on the potency. Thankfully, there is a Korean restaurant in Columbia to satisfy my kimchi, bulgogi, and bi bim bap w/a hat urges.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

do you know a good/accessible kimchi recipe?

i’d love to try and make it

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by bmorgan on Mar 27, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't you have to bury it for years?

or, like wine, is that just the good stuff? further, would an american be able to tell the difference?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the wine analogy is right

and no, i’m 100% sure i couldn’t tell the difference.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 27, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can bury it for years

but you don’t have to. And yes, it is just the good stuff. Kimchi is usually made twice a year or so, and you absolutely can tell the difference between summer kimchi and winter kimchi. Also, most Korean families have a kimchi refrigerator now, but some will also bury special batches out in the yard for years later.

Also, I found this website for relatively simple kimchi recipes — I think there are 3 posts total — 2 recipes and a results page. Both sounded pretty good to me: http://thepauperedchef.com/2009/10/homemade-kimchi-contest-part-i.html

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by el birdo in soko on Mar 27, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

i’ll give it a look. thanks.

by bmorgan on Mar 27, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i prefer their women over their food

we used to have a neighbor who was infreakingcredable

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i went to a restaurant once

the food was infreakingedible

ZING!

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by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

oohh dig you, you have a awesome girlfriend

yeah well, i have,,,, i have,,,, bacons!

yeah top that soko!

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

lineup per Leach

Cardinals:
1. Schumaker 2B
2. Ryan SS
3. Pujols 1B
4. Holliday LF
5. Lopez RF
6. Freese 3B
7. Mather CF
8. LaRue C
9. Penny RHP

Marlins:
1. Coghlan LF
2. Maybin CF
3. Ramirez SS
4. Cantu 3B
5. Uggla 2B
6. Baker C
7. Stanton RF
8. Sanchez 1B
9. Hensley RHP

Minor Leaguers up as extra bodies for the Cardinals today: Cutler, Descalso, Henley, Cazana, Solano

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions  

P-D notes

leads with Lopex

http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone/commishs-hot-stove/commishs-hot-stove/cardinal-beat-updates/2010/03/game-day-lopez-makes-first-start-in-right/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oswalt down with hammy strain

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2010/news/story?id=5031345&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 9:44 AM EDT reply actions  

So, the 90+ wins predicted by the team WAR

Is the “+” games against the astros?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 27, 2010 12:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm convinced the Cards can beat up on the Astros

I’m not so sure they can beat the Juice Box.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah its more like a theme park than a ballpark which add a lot of HFA

Its funny that the ‘Stros now play in the DisneyWorld of Orange Juice and yet have gone away from the old Orange Crush uniforms in favor of Red and pinstripes. Some people just don’t get it i guess

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 27, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the more I think of it

 the more I’m in favor of some kind of orange coming back to the stros. I mean, there are orange stars.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats why

they should bury the ferris wheel

by Macarver hater on Mar 27, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, the team stacks up

But that’s only if you honestly believe the projections that Lohse and Penny have any appreciable value above replacements. Realistically, I’d think of them in the Garcia 0.4 -0.7 WAR range to start the season and go from there. I see Penny’s Cardinal career turning out like that of Sidney Ponson’s. I watched the guy with Boston last year, and even though he was facing much better lineups than he’d see in the NL, there didn’t seem to be anything there of value. The strategy with him on the mound had become, “Penny’s pitching. Any chance of winning this one in a slugfest?”

by olddomination on Mar 27, 2010 9:46 AM EDT reply actions  

i had this waking dream

where we started calling him “Penelope”.

it wasn’t specifically VEB, though, because dreaming of VEB would be scary.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

dreaming of it again you mean

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

speak for yourself

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't be the only one who dreams of this place

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes you can

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

can i?

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you do

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

i’ve never had a dream involving veb, but i have had a dream involving an online community

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by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would think you would dream about any place you spend a lot of time in

online or not

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

gdm

this is not a real place. a state of mind maybe, but not a real place.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of like dreams.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 27, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

you just blew my mind

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't tell me you and I are the only ones who have done this.

dreaming about posting bacon pics is all the rad people.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's kinda like dreaming about comic-book girls

rather than the flesh-and-blood variety. see, i don’t dream about posting pics of bacon, i dream about bacon!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

girls aren't real

don’t feed that poor boy lies like that

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 28, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

santa glaus will you save me from the lies???

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 28, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

the ester bunny & a toot fairy are totally real though

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 28, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

something about a "toot fairy" is very believable

and cracking me up.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

We don't have the same definition of "realisitically"

Penny was worth something like 2.5 WAR last year with the Red Sox and Giants, coming off injury. He’s averaged about 3.3 WAR per year during his career (except for 2008, when he was injured). That he wouldn’t have any appreciable value above “replacement,” barring another injury (and he’s not been injury-prone in his career), is simply a “pessimistic” projection, not a particularly “realistic” one.

Lohse has been worth about 2.4 WAR per year during his career (except for 2009, when he was injured). He has not been particularly injury-prone in his career either. Again, one injury marred year does not make him a bad pitcher. “Realistically,” barring injury, he should pitch about how he’s always pitched this year – at about a 2.5 WAR level.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 27, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

their injury histories are both very limited, and neither of their injuries appears to be lingering into the spring. If you think it’s realistic to take Penny’s spring training stats as cause for alarm, then you have to admit that Garcia and Lohse both look like they’re going to beat the projections listed above.

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by hazel on Mar 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

during penny's 2009 season, he was still worth 2.5 WAR. the only year of his career since his rookie year

when he was worth less than 2 wins was his injury-plagued 2008.

i don’t see penny as a replacement value pitcher.

even kyle lohse was worth almost a win last year in an injury affected year where he only pitched 116 innings. if lohse is healthy, there’s no basis for thinking he is replacement value, either. as long as lohse is healthy, a bad year for him would be like 1.5 WAR. being off by a win is not going to sink these projections.

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by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

if anything the phillies are the ones who are overrated

fat beaker & bubbles wil be fine

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

Polanco is still a 3 war player at 3rd base atthis point in his career? Anyone else think that’s wild?

by mob16151 on Mar 27, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I think that's not likely to last the life of that contract

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by mattyfrommo on Mar 27, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea I can see that

Polanco seems like a guy who’ll keep playing well, till he falls off a cliff performance wise. I just didn’t think his numbers would project that well at 3rd base.

by mob16151 on Mar 27, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ludwick doesn't need WAR

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Seriously; what is it good for?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 27, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Absolutely Nothing - uh - say it again"

BTW, did anyone see the PD writers’ picks for the pennant races? Most of them have Phillies or Yankees winning the WS, but Bernie has the Cards beating Seattle to win the WS (Burwell, the only other one to pick the Cards to go to the Series, has them losing to the Yankees).

Strauss has the Twins winning the WS. That will be an interesting trick, what with Nathan’s injury and all.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/7A0CDD8DAC958ADC862576F0005DAF98?OpenDocument

by Jmodene on Mar 27, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Strauss (Charlie we have to go on an adventure!)

May have picked this on purpose to try to be more negative. He thinks noone realizes Nathan is injured because he hasn’t broken the story, so, he picks the Twins to win the WS then suddenly the world is dark and sad and distraught because Nathan is injured, how could life get any worse for Minnesota?!

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by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 27, 2010 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

RFL!

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 27, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boog's Lego's Luddy's & Freeze's numbers are all really low

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think ben francisco is a pretty good player

but i don’t understand how the 4th of’er gets a 2.2 while luddy only gets a 2.0

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by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

the Cubs were scouting Luke Gregerson.

per Rosenthal.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Oquendo et al laying down the law

  BJRains Cardinals infielders going through full infield practice, working on double plays, etc…outfielders catching fly balls off pitching machine about 1 hours ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

we knew that...

if I remember correctly, Albert is number two on the team.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously the hardball times needs to listen to Dan'n'Al more

Because everyone knows that homeruns are rallykillers not double plays and Yadi doesn’t ground into dp’s he winds up in them from not hustling to first.

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 27, 2010 12:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Interesting article on statistical significance and application of Bayes

Article on statistical significance.
Birnbaum does a good job a correcting a common mistake, i.e. the rejection of the null hypo in no way implies the acceptance of the alternate. I have so many students who get the two confused. But I disagree with Birnbaum in that 5% is just an arbitrary significance level. Typically, the p-value is reported instead of specifying the significance level and that does give an indication of the likelihood.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Why do you disagree about the 5% being an arbitrary significance level?

Many real life studies use this as the accepted level for their experiments, and they reject those that are 6%, 5.5%, etc.

by vivaelpujols on Mar 27, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am not disagreeing that 1%, 2.5%, 5%, 10% are often used values for convenience; but

in my experience, I typically just report the p-value instead of stating an acceptable significance level. So I am not disagreeing with your point. I was disagreeing slightly with Birnbaum that the p-value does represent likelihood, i.e. the magnitude of the p-value is meaningful beyond just the rejection/not rejection of Ho. So p=0.001 and p=0.04 both result in rejection at 5% but the difference in significance level is meaningful.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

On another note, I find the Bayes vs. non-Bayes disputes to sometimes be a little

extreme sometimes. In my limited understanding, I just think both approaches have validity. Birbaum seems to imply that Bayesian analysis is superior because you can incorporate your intuition as a prior (the Tony Gwyn example). I think intuition can also be included into the frequentist techniques as long as the factor is quantifiable which is also a requirement for Bayes. One has to be able to somehow estimate the prior distribution in order to use it in Bayes theorem.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Otto is blotto

 @ BJRains Cardinals option pitcher Adam Ottavino to Triple-A Memphis | St. Louis Globe-Democrat: http://bit.ly/beGEgV

by Mister Eff on Mar 27, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

okay

now I am believing Garcia is the #5 starter

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 27, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty good indication

i think garcia is starting mon, so let’s hope all goes well

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seen this and wondered if "optioned" is the right language

I can’t imagine this counts as one of his options. But is says it right there.

It’s just a reassignment right?

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

40 man roster

means it counts as an option year. Right??

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by scoot on Mar 27, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

DanUp's SBN Cards preview is up.

There are clerihews.

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by The Continental on Mar 27, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

oh shit, he linked to the Sampler

I hope it’s updated.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny to LaRue

we got game.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

hit and runnnnnn

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Leach tweets
  1. Absolutely beautiful hit-and-run executed by #stlcards. Schumaker running, Ryan hits bouncer through right side, now 1st-and-3rd for Pujols. about 1 hours ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan pulls of the hit and run

Working on getting out of that dog house.

by Evilfrog on Mar 27, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

"Brendan flops back in to first"

ah, it must be time for baseball.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

"he's just a rookie umpire.... [Albert] said a lot with his body language"

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

ump now looking into dugout.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait what?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 27, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a rookie glare.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

wild throw...

Skip scores, Boog scores on the E, Holliday into second.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

no; i'm not sure how much i buy into leverage index.

by all means, post them, though.

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by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

diving play by freese

long throw from his knees, albert can’t handle the low throw…

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

double play 1-6-3

Penny has a weak throw, Booooooooooooooog is awesome.

“He could be standing on top of the Statue of Liberty, on one hand, and still throw a strike to first base.”

somebody correct this quote because it is awesome. almost as awesome as Boog.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

haha love that quote

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Mar 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

"on his left hand"

as opposed to on one hand

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

I hope Boog doesn’t hear about this, ‘cause it’ll be a matter of time before he tries it.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta love the Moon Man

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

is anyone else worried that Joe Mather's wrist is ... not okay?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

what made you think this?

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Mar 27, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny is robbed by Cantu

well, we know he can hit, now.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

"You can't have a holiday on a penny. Come on now. You know better than that. That's at least a quarter."

- Shannon.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Penny stares at Shannon...

That’s what you meant to say in your next post, right?

by stlfan on Mar 27, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd think Holliday would be staring at Shannon.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

he gets worse every second of every day

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 27, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

You dare to insult the Moon Man?

Dan ’n Al, on the other hand…

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

if that's not a flaggable offense, i don't know what is

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny stares at ump.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  

LaRue attempts a Yadi.

Skip was ready for it.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Holliday makes the catch

throw hits Sanchez, avoids doubling off.

Albert’s having a so-so day.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Penny's got a K.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

LaRue's getting beat up by foul balls.

Ramirez checks on him.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

base hit to center

Sanchez scores.
Maybin, shocked by the aura of Albert Pujols, fails to run.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Cantu up

hip hip Jorge cheer breaks out

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boog is two steps into outfield grass. Skip ten feet from second down center.

it’s just positioning, but I love it.

Penny K’s again. I suspect he’s having trouble with this ump’s zone.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

link to gameday?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

hitters are not having fun with this ump

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

inconsistent strike zone?

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Mar 27, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

K

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

they're saying Penny's working faster

better than what Hill was doing.

before the show, Gibby said Hill in particular kept talking to him.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

another K

three K’s in a row, four total.

Rooney’s fired up about the movement on Penny’s pitches.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG

go Albert, too.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

why is this not televised

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

For the same reason

there is a deficiency of minor league games televised — the networks believe there is no interest in spring training games which do not count.

Maybe to the casual fan, but the hard-core? Lock that sucker down on the DVR season pass, baby.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 27, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you're saying

we should burn down some offices?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that is what it takes

extremism in the pursuit of spring training and minor league baseball on TV is no vice, and acceptance of the few scraps we are tossed is no virtue.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 27, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I'll rec that

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

great play?

....my quick smells like french toast...

by mstreeter06 on Mar 27, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uggla error.

“He’s not very good at second base.”

hahaha. hahaha.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Flip steals a base

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap do we have a running game!!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

"second basemen Dan Uggla get's to it...

and drops it. He’s not a very good secondbase man."

True story.

by Evilfrog on Mar 27, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

trufax!

kudos for the exact quote

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

over Maybin's head, right center.

Felipe scores!

good job, Mr. Freese.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Freese reads Uggla to easily beat throw over.

haha Uggla.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're blogging from ... the future!

You’re more than a full minute ahead of At Bat.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 27, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 27, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

they charge a fortune to tune up the hovercar

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Delorean?

I’ve always thought the sequel should’ve been named, “Forward to the Past”.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just got done

watching the Back to the Future Trilogy over the past few days…

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by ducttape16 on Mar 27, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the 3rd one...

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by ducttape16 on Mar 27, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Penny has another K

the booth’s been real excited by all of his pitches. I am reassured. it’s too early for too many frosty ones.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Goold's got some minors news
  1. dgoold Checking in on Mike Parisi, over at MLB.com, where the Rule 5 pick is still in the mix (for now) for #Cubs http://bit.ly/cyXVP7 #stlcards 32 minutes ago via bit.ly
  2. dgoold Vuch Report from Friday, complete with Miller’s 3 innings, Parejo’s homer and Carpenter’s homer, too http://bit.ly/am1yfp #stlcards #farmnik 42 minutes ago via bit.ly
  3. dgoold Ottavino option to Memphis, where he’ll start. TLR talked this morning about how he could be a starter in majors this season. #stlcards about 1 hours ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

"They should add a bell to the internet. There aren't any bells and whistles on the internet."

“Yes there are!”
[heh heh heh]
“I see, said the blind man!”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

a few seconds later

“We’re just trying to mess with you now!”

[heh heh heh]

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heyward's got an awesome family too.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2010/03/27/heywards-dad-try-to-be-one-of-best-to-ever-play/

(I’m overusing “awesome”. Don’t care.)

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

they interviewed Heyward during ESPN's broadcast yesterday

seems like an awesome guy. it’s hard not to root for him.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 27, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I want to shake his hand

and see how huge they are

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's keep it professional.

he’s only 20.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

no it's not, he doesn't wear the B O B's & the wwl won't shut up about him

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lopez fail

late break, slide, …guess he didn’t make the catch

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Yadi2 are you trying to break the consequetive posts by a single person record?

What is the record, BTW? To make it fair, it has to be during a game thread.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

record's already mine.

I have nothing to prove.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you guys want separate game threads from the main post

just say the word, or ask the mods

I’d be happy to throw some up. just going with the flow – there are quite a few people who want the liveblogs.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. That wasn't my intention.

I just wanted the consecutive posts record to be earned legitimately. It should not be won in an early Sunday morning post where most folks are still snoozing.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

would performance enhancing caffeine hurt my bid for the record books?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You only did it to help you recover from your lack of sleep.

It did not enhance your typing speed or accuracy. Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I really don’t have too any problems with Big Mac’s interviews. I should just let it rest.

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by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just trying to avoid typos

it didn’t affect my typing speed
SBN is a disadvantage to all commenters, including me

(yeah, I just think it’s funny.)

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

but it helped get him into the blog!

more blogging time inherently means more posts!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

really

i just wish yadi2 hadn’t been commenting during the caffeine era…

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Look, Yadi might have been involved in the era,

but that doesn’t make him any less of a nice guy. Look at all the things he has done for the site over his membership.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 27, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

and he's come clean by admitting he used caffeine

i just don’t know what else pj wants.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

he should have said more!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

do you mean "moar"?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm just trying to move ahead with my contributions to blogging.

I mean, uh…

dingers!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

rec's for everyone!

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

i remember some game threads in 07 where i was all alone

those were lonely times

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

why you sonofa

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 29, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

pickoff fail

error on pitcher.
runner to third.

Albert must not be pleased with his day.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

aw crap

hot shot to Penny’s butt

….or his pitching hand.

makes the play.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

and now I have heard Shannon say "fatty part of the buttocks"

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

spirited applause for Penny

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

does lohse need to gain 40 or 50 lbs. to have more padding?

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by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

specifically filled with air

bubbles are the technology of the future.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRue for the WIN!

LaRue gets the ball in front of the plate, gets back to tag Maybin! badass!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

LaRue

Gets a dribble down the line and tags the runner trying to score.

by Evilfrog on Mar 27, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Trever warming

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

"we will rock you" breaks out.

but I think it’s just a few people close to the booth

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Penny K's Uggla

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Blake Hawksley"

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

entire section sings happy birthday to some kid, just below the booth.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

another Uggla fail

Lopex on base

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I blame Uggla

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trever Miller

Stav in right
Henley in left
order is a mystery

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

is Henley still with the team

or just called up for today’s game?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 27, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leach's wording sounds like the latter

FWIW

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

damnit dude, for a second i thought were you talking about hanley ramirez

i was about to jump out the window & sacrifice a cow in MO’s honor

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can do it anyway

but Moo won’t like it.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

moooor chikin!!

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll wait till Albert's resigns before i do that

now a pig,a goat or a sheep? yeah i might do that

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

do the pig

you get a bacon bonus

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

diving catch by Joey Bombs!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

TAKE NOTES, COLBY

Tony takes Trever out after his one batter.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

gaw

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Lidge is still recovering from surgery,

I think he’s doubtful to be ready by opening day.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 27, 2010 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

he's been pitching in minor league games

if he misses any regular season games, it won’t be many

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by bmorgan on Mar 27, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

sauce is warming

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

diving! play! by Freese... off Albert's glove

Albert’s eh day continues

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:15 PM EDT reply actions  

around the horn

Freese to Schumaker to Albert

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankie warms

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Albert needs to prove himself

this club doesn’t take just any first baseman

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:23 PM EDT reply actions  

a single!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stav is up.

Solano runs for Albert.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Solano is picked off

lesson: pinch running for Albert turns into fail.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that the second time solano has been picked off?

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by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think whatsisname was sent up to PR and got picked

starts with an A, not Amaury.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

adron chambers. that's who it

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

was.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say

Yadi2Second provides clearer and more cogent play by play than Mike Shannon.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

thank you

….that’s not hard. I’m sober.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

why?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 27, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I'm phoning it in.

“You don’t have one of those Android phones, do you?” [sic]
“No, iPhone.”
“IPod, ah.”

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

shannon said "android phone" like he was saying "flux capacitor."

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by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

why the [sic]?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's Droid phones

and tom s. is right, the quotation marks definitely dropped down around “Android”

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Android is actually an operating system

that is used on a lot of new smart phones – it’s used by Google products. Droid is just one smart phone that does indeed use the operating system “Android.”

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by bmorgan on Mar 27, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

another exciting win by the wave last night, eh?

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didn't see it

i haven’t been to a game in a couple of weeks. Law school has caught up with me. I’m going to try to get to same games next week as I’m on spring break now, but I don’t have anything set in stone yet.

I kinda like the Pepitone kid out of the bullpen. He’s like 6’7 with a great sinker, but I haven’t really seen him throw any secondary pitches.

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by bmorgan on Mar 27, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi can still drive a car legally.in the eighth inning.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

inadvertently hilarious, sexually-charged baseball comment of the day.
“I want it so bad. I’m not going to mince words — I want it so bad that sometimes it gets in the way. Sometimes you’re holding on too tight to let go. That’s where I’m at right now.”

- parisi on trying to make the cubs as a rule v signee.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

the cubs have really messed that kid up

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Henley holds 'em to a single... but it's a one run game

oh wait, i’ve got this franklin…. diner warming.

barden is pinch-running. shannon is most certainly slurring it.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

he's had a good spring.

he was never in the calculus for the squad, but he’s definitely moved himself up.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm at work

And can’t enjoy a franklin.

by Evilfrog on Mar 27, 2010 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

OUT at second OUT at first

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG.

“Ryan picked that thing clean!”

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

there are billions of highlights in this non-televised game

even Trever Miller interview afterwards will not make up for this travesty.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOGGGGGGGGGGGG!

DP FTW!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

"You are just seeing one of the greatest short stops in this game."

Ryan apparently made a nice play to start the “OUT at second, OUT at first.” DPs. Franklin owes him a Franklin.

by Evilfrog on Mar 27, 2010 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

this won't be the first time this season that boog saves his butt.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

or the last

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG!!

/AtBat’d

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 27, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

they're still giddy about the play

I can’t stand thisssss.

gonna steal a goat.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

GoodStalker has a boner

 Goodness. Brendan Ryan’s slick move to his right on a sharp-hit shorthop ends the game. Numbers only start to show his value to defense. 10 minutes ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Trever Miller is a good dude.

“The good apples always stay around a little bit longer.”

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

other teams for future review, guys? - braves, rockies, dodgers?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd like to see

the braves now you mention it

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can just write about Jason Heyward if you want. We haven't heard enough about him

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 27, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don't know what he wears to bed

although i don’t know if i want tom finding out

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

rocks

they seem the surer bet to make the postseason.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce Hornsby and Tony

oh-kay.

apparently Tony is telling him about Ottavino.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

i'd think hornsby would know who otto is

isn’t he around spring training every year, like bobby knight?

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

in other news, the Strauss banter surrounding this is bizarre

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Parisi outrighted

linky

Additionally, the Cubs outrighted right-handed pitcher Mike Parisi to the Triple-A Iowa roster, reducing Chicago’s spring training roster to 31 players.

I thought he had to make rounds and come back to us first…

by Evilfrog on Mar 27, 2010 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

more info at the trib site:
The Cubs also outrighted right-hander Mike Parisi to Triple-A Iowa. Parisi, a Rule 5 pick, became a minor league free agent after declining to go back to St. Louis, as was his option since he’d been outrighted by the Cardinals before. The Cubs then signed him to a minor league deal.

link

also in the article, andres blanco becomes the rangers’ poor man’s kaheel.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

also in the comments

the player to be named later is possibly Ian Kinsler or Michael Young.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 27, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

because his friend told him it was possible

texas throws in cash too. and if it does happen, he believes that would be a good deal for the cubs.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is possible buster olney is tweeting this right now.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know, tom, it really is

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like mulling this over

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

so did penny alleviate any fears today?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

what was his line?

(too lazy to look it up)

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

6 Ip 5 H 1 R 1 ER 1 BB 6 Ks.

by Evilfrog on Mar 27, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

and 7/5 GO/FO

btw, we got outhit 10-4, won 3-2

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

5H=5singles

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

not bad

not bad at all

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

false alarm then

spring training is really unpredictable/not-predictive

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 27, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

this falls into the category of "asinine fanpost"

but some of the comments are rec- and/or noteworthy (boog is apparently an overachieving nobody)

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/25/1390575/where-is-pujols-going-to-end-up

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Derrick Lee and Zambrano!

Make it happen, Mo! (and I’ll throw myself off a tall building).

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 27, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

bwahahaha
the Cubs are not in desperation mode yet, but they need to make a desperation move.

Not in desperation mode? So when does desperation kick in, after another 100 years? And desperation move? Good idea, nothing fixes an aging club saddled with bad contracts like arbitrary and panicked free agent acquisitions.

by mattyp on Mar 27, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

the very first sentence of the fanpost

should be tongue-in-cheek but isn’t, which makes it pretty hilarious

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overacheivers: Brendan Ryan is their Opening Day SS. David Freese is their Opening Day 3rd Baseman. All of these nobodies should come back down.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 27, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really like the

post that led to the comment: Apparently our status as favorites to win the division doesn’t matter because Holliday might not hit and Wainwright could suck. Brilliant argument! You know, I don’t think the Yankees are going to repeat because Arod might suck and CC Sabathia might fall into a bottomless hole.

by mattyp on Mar 27, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

sabathia might fall into his own belly?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cubfan-logic never ceases to amaze me

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 27, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

where is freese coming down from?

and i guess boog is playing way over his head at that .310 wOBA?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

come back down?

so Freese should return to the minors and boog can’t play defense in cubs-world

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 27, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't read the cubbie post, but based on your recap

The Holliday and Wagonmaker statement sounds like crap. But questioning Boog and Freeze is arguable. They don’t have a long track record. Boog has the wrist thing and Freeze some of the field stuff. As I homer, obviously, I feel insulted. I’d like to see the small bear fans to insult Boog in front of the Moon Man.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Mar 27, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

good article tom

thanks for the saturday writing. I knew our lineup was pretty similar to the Phils’ when you look at the bigger picture. the 2010 offense should be much more fun to watch than last year’s inconsistent attack. hopefully McGwire will help with plate discipline and the like.

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 27, 2010 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

speaking of the Phillies

Lidge and Romero won’t be ready for opening day, perhaps weakening the Phils bullpen for a bit

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 27, 2010 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Penny's nonchalantness about getting hit by the ball

they hit it back up the middle, I kinda blocked it with my leg. got hit in the muscle, no big whoop

Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 27, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

"muscle"! haha.

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by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

aren't boog's eyes closed in that photo?

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

he's using two hands

so there’s no problem

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

can someone explain to me how hawards is a 4.4 war?

all he does is hit dingers in a band box. i don’t trust a lot of these numbers. i really don’t

good stuff tom, and not for me to poo on.

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

that explanation would require some math

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know math involved poo

one more reason to avoid it

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

as long as i don't have to do said math i'd like to know

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would have to know how important HR's are

but i’m thinking he’s less, i would have thought he’d be in the 3 – 3.5 war

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

well,

HRs are pretty much the best thing you can do with a bat. they’re pretty valuable

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by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

kills the rally

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is locked... can someone explain?
Parisi: Turns Down Cardinals
-by TheCardinalNation.com Mar 27, 2010

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 10:06 PM EDT reply actions  

oops

link

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks

i missed the free agency part

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

G-Dem's color commentary notebook

http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/mar/27/reid-cardinals-have-some-questions-answer-final-we/

The Cardinals have made 22 errors in 22 games. They have also made several other goofs including bad base running and throws to the wrong base. Granted, some of the guilty players are no longer on the major league roster, but if the team wants to win the division with ease and move farther in the playoffs than the divisional series it must tighten up its defense.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

agree

friday’s game was plagued by both bad execution and bad decisions
even some errors, like greene’s, were mental—must catch ball before throwing ball.

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 28, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

why does baseball reference

list brayan pena as: catcher and pinch hitter?

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

better question:

how do you know who brayan pena is?

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by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

the specter of matt pagnozzi on the roster

makes one do strange things, especially in a state of serious hangover (see below – evident the wash!)

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh!

pronounced like “brian peña”

never seen the name printed

i read it as branyan pena over and over

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by prophetjohn on Mar 27, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

brañañ peña?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

u of arizona baseball concession stand sells wiener schnitzel

somehow that doesn’t seem right.

how do i know this? watching them play oregon. it’s one of those webcam setups with just the pa announcer (who pimps everything and announces the home hitters like boxers, or nba players) and crowd noise, stadium music (sweet caroline, etc.), and sometimes a funny conversation when people unsuspectingly get close enough to the mike. they just did a dot race on the scoreboard – 3 dots racing around an oval track. red won, and paula chafee needs to report to the desk to collect her prize. now wipeout playing – a little beach music to enjoy with your schnitzel i suppose. a guy just asked a chick if she needed to use the restroom, but she already did – this during a long conference on the mound. crowd chants left-right, left-right as the oregon batter marches back to the dugout after k’ing. now the dickie’s bbq hat scramble – the little girl (ravina) standing atop the home dugout (the stage for the chicken dance last inning) won a free sandwich by correctly picking hat 3! ok, i should probably read a book or something.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

This sounds awesome...

why didn’t you post a link to this bad boy?

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by ducttape16 on Mar 27, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

still watching, and listening

see if this works:

http://atdhe.net/10443/watch-oregon-vs-arizona

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

they did the left-right chant again

when the oregon pitcher was pulled mid-inning. played ‘under pressure’ as the reliever warmed up – he threw two wild pitches warming up which the crowd appreciated. some guy started mooing loudly and kept it up awhile – no idea why, will have to ask moocow i guess.

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by cardball on Mar 27, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have what may be the best college baseball music story of all time...

One of my years in college I somehow got involved with a team for Relay for Life. Since it was April and not raining they had it on the track at Illinois. This is directly south of the baseball field. If you need a visual reference search Illinois Field into google maps and it’s the first one that comes up… anyhoo before we all start walking around a the track they have some cancer survivors to come up and tell their stories.. nothing too unusual. The only problem with this is that there is a ball game going on at the time. That season whenever Illinois would strike someone out they’d play a certain Queen song… So this one lady is up there giving her story and understandably tearing up and about to lose her shit… She takes a minute to compose herself only to hear… duh duh duh another one bites the dust… The hardest thing I’ve ever had to do was not break down laughing at the timing of that moment… I will now go get back into the express lane to hell.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 28, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

that lane just got more crowded

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by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

It sure does...

so nice to see a college ball game that has infield dirt… and grass… oh memories…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 27, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

atdhe.net lists all the sporting events you can watch that day

i watched the last pac-man fight through them, and all the ncaa tourney. they have most of the nba games, tons of soccer, ufc, etc. they had the fresno st. and fullerton baseball games today, but i just randomly picked this one.

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by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is a handy thing to have laying around...

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by ducttape16 on Mar 28, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was thinking it sounds like a bad acid trip

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by gdm426 on Mar 28, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

tyler green is good dude & all class

no, really

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by gdm426 on Mar 27, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like someone

went to the Bizzaro Barry Bonds Media Relationship Seminar…

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by ducttape16 on Mar 27, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

your name is Penny, not Piñeiro
“Same thing, ball up the middle, I stick my leg out and try to knock it down,” he said. "Hit me in the muscle, good spot again. It was the thigh. It was on the back of my leg. If it had been a knee, it might have been a problem. I stick my leg out trying to block the ball, trying to knock it down.
“They didn’t score, so I’ll take it. especially in the season.”

There’s only one Kick Save.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 27, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Just got word from danup, draft is monday at 6pm

I have the number 8 pick so I’m stuck between fielder and Lincecum.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 27, 2010 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

clowns to the left of me, stoners to me right, here i am . . . .

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 27, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

just the song, or the full visual with a guy dancing around a trussed-up cop with a straight razor in his hand?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 28, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Both NOW.

You can read it in any tone you like.

by spants on Mar 28, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

your first cousin married a trussed-up cop?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

kidding

really? that’s cool.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

i figured you were

but yeah… she must be into famous guys or something. she was married to brian setzer from the stray cats before madsen.

by bmorgan on Mar 28, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ow my ear...

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by ducttape16 on Mar 28, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

random question

what’s Goold’s euphemism for ‘fuck’? if he’s used one.

there’s a ‘not suitable for family blog’ line in the Carp Q&A, but that’s too non-specific. i don’t recall seeing one.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 28, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

according to az's report at fr

amaury went yard today as memphis beat new orleans (florida’s AAA). amaury always makes me think volare.

and arquimedes nieto is back on track (the name drew me inexorably into his following)

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by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

sometimes I wonder about the optimum baseball name

to ready your kids for future stardom.

like, you know… don’t name your kid Allen Craig.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 28, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

i always thought champ summers was a cool baseball name

i knew him when i was a kid. he’s from madison, il. and went to siu-e. check out his given name, though, and the numbers he put up for detroit in ’79:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/summech01.shtml

probably the best name to give your future star, though, is albert pujols – that’ll work with any last name.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

like, say, Albert Jose Pujols?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 28, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

that one seems to be working

and jose alberto pujols definitely works.

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by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course, a not so charitable voice says

“does he fade in October?”

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 28, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

luckily, in the baseball world, summer doesn’t officially end until the last out of the world series.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 2:02 AM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

so who thinks there's going yo be a pitch f/x post tomorrow?

or will it be another joke at yours truly.

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by CodyG on Mar 28, 2010 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

the latter

fo sho
/wishful jinxing

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by BVHeck on Mar 28, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i thought vep said he had a waino pitch f/x ready to go?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 28, 2010 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

he actually did have a computer issue

he e-mailed me about it in time, so there’s a post ready to go tomorrow.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 28, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

he said several days ago

that he had a wainwright post pretty much ready to go

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by prophetjohn on Mar 28, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

new article about joey bombs

here. read it if only for the comment at the bottom.

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by gdm426 on Mar 28, 2010 2:59 AM EDT reply actions  

i thought the old-fashioned way involved inheritance

so wouldn’t that be pags?

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by cardball on Mar 28, 2010 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

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