Two Relievers
by DanUpBaby on Mar 23, 2010 10:08 AM EDT
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PrintHow's this headline for a sop to the hyperventilating prospect-geek fraternity—Cardinals cut six, including Pagnozzi and Salas. Just as it sinks in the Matt Pagnozzi is gone, condemned to take still more at-bats from Bryan Anderson in Memphis, you see that Fernando Salas, erstwhile Spring Training relief ace and long-time Future Redbirds favorite, will be throwing to him.
It won't be the last we see of Salas, and while I'd have liked to see him playing the role of Kyle McClellan in 2010 he is still, like Kyle McClellan in 2008, no sure thing; injuries kept him from a full season in 2009, so 2008 still remains the only thing we have that separates him from such VEB favorites as Kelvin Jimenez. Given reliever attrition he'll probably make the team by June, if he's as good as we hope he is.
He did just about all he could to fit into the role of Spring Training surprise, but the Cardinals have other plans for the amorphous back of the bullpen, and they appear to look a lot like Adam Ottavino.
I'm getting the impression, in this brave, post-Braden-Looper world, that Tony La Russa, the man widely credited with (or blamed for) pulling baseball in the direction of single-inning, single-batter relief specialists, cares a lot less about the distinction than he's given credit for (or accused of.) Having created these roles he feels a need to keep them in place—it was mentioned in passing in a recent P-D article that Dave Duncan's ideal bullpen has three left-handers in it—but passage between the bullpen and the rotation seems no more difficult than... say, passage from the outfield to second base.
Should Ottavino make the team in 2010—this still seems unlikely, here on March 23—he'd join Mitchell Boggs in the back of the pen as an ex-starter who made it all the way to Memphis, and for all the concern about his command, his career walk rate as a starter in the minors is a full walk lower than Ottavino's. Ottavino's strikeout rate is nearly one higher, as well, for what that's worth; big starters with sinking fastballs come with no guarantees as to what happens when you tell them to rear back and throw as hard as they can, but Boggs dialed up one notch seems like the kind of pitcher who could stand to start his first season in the Memphis bullpen. Ottavino's 24, the same age as Boggs was when he first sneaked into St. Louis.
The comparisons get vaguer after that, but I can't decide which of the following propositions I'm more surprised about—Kyle McClellan's only a year and a half older than Adam Ottavino; Adam Ottavino's a year and a half younger than Kyle McClellan. It seems like I've been hearing about Ottavino forever, but McClellan is a Veteran Reliever who was drafted all the way back in 2002. McClellan last started a full season in low-A Peoria, and upon moving to the bullpen he converted his plain-old starter stats (5.9 K/9; 2.4 BB/9) into plain-old setup man stats, boosting his strikeout rate and improving his command.
(I just checked Baseball Reference and have added one more surprise to my lede—McClellan and Ottavino are just one inch and 25 listed pounds apart. Without a strikeout pitch, and reliant, in the minors, on his command to post gaudy K:BB ratios, McClellan has just always struck me as a Small Pitcher. The back of Adam Ottavino's figurative baseball card makes him look a foot taller.)
My concern about Ottavino right now—should it even be necessary, at this early stage, to have one—is that he has yet to even succeed in Memphis. Boggs was a fair starter in Memphis whose strikeout rate, in 2008, foretold some difficulty in missing bats as a Major League starter. McClellan was a successful reliever in Springfield and Palm Beach and had a reasonable, if anonymous, season in Peoria as a starter. Ottavino was just a mess. It is one thing to hope he can turn the fastball up and get still more groundballs and strikeouts, but I would wait, at least, until he proves he can stay in the strike zone in the high minors.
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No Surprises Here...
…udder than with 8-Wine getting a hard look – perhaps an example of TLR going with the ‘hot hand’, as 8-Wine is performing nicely so far.
And yes, 8 (Otto)-Wine (Vino) is my annoying nick-name geared to irritate and amooose fellow VEBers – I don’t know that he has a proper nick-name yet, but I sorta like 8-Wine. Need 2 solid innings of relief, let’s pop open a bottle of 8-Wine!
;=8)
I would be somewhat surprised, however, if both 8-Wine and Garcia both make the club out of spring, not because they both didn’t earn it but because we already seem to have Allen Craig Craig Allen Allen and Tasty as our Opening Day rooks. 4 rookies for TLR? Has the world gone mad???
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Garcia strikes out too many to not be on Dunc's shitlist.....
now Ottavino…..well hey…plenty of walks to go around just like the back end of our bullpen always seems to have. I guess this means plenty of Franklin’s again this year? Damn, and I was considering cutting back!
CALL A FAIR GAME BLUE!
by One Flew Over The Cardinals Nest on Mar 23, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
we love your name so much so that we want to take it out behind a middle school & impregnate it
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
by gdm426 on Mar 24, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No one likes a pederass
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
8 year olds dude
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I actually really like the 8-wine nickname
Not sure why…
If he makes the team and ends up sucking it’s gonna become “Uomo della penna dei tori piu frustrazione del mondo”
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
I Guess Little Flute is the Proper Nickname for him...
…but 8-Wine sounds moore ‘street’, uh-huh, word-up, yo, ummmm…yeah.
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
may you never contract moocow disease
you’re sick enough as it is.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ottavino still means piccolo
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
ask the italians, it's their word
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
he’s a little flute. So cute! How can you not root for cute little flute, shoot…
Ok, no moore sugar for me at lunch….
:=8.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Jethro Tull demonstrates that flute can also rock.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
we're bringing the prussians into this?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That is
Senator Juan Encarnacion to you
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope this doesn't mean the NL has to unify with the AL
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
We must reclaim the Cardinals-watching peoples in other broadcast areas!
Our franchise needs breathing room.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Mar 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
and a CENTERFIELD CAMERA
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
if it means the end of inter-league play
i’m all for it.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
Aw
I like interleague play
(I know I’m in the minority on this one)
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I want no more interleague play either
also, send one of the NL to the AL West, plz
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, the AL west should take the Astros.
since Texas is already there. instant rivalry!
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
very good idea!
I don’t like the Astros anyway, get them out of there. plus they are set up better to be an AL team I think, it seems they would like to have a DH
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys do realize that if we simply move the 'stros to the AL West
That makes an odd number of teams in each league, therefore requiring there to be at least one interleague series at all times
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
why can't it just mean that there will always be one team in each league with the day off?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
If we're playing 3-4 game series
then there will always be one team in each league with 3-4 days off
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
nah
you could overlap them well enough and throw in interleague series here and there to keep it good
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Stop it
You’re making Bud’s head hurt
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Or making him cream himself
for even better ways to jack up the schedule.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
There was a whole smart discussion about this during the restructuring talk
I can’t remember where it was or what website. Conclusion was that uneven leagues sucked.
How is that for evidence?
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
expand into Vegas
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i think the answer is dismantling teams, not adding new ones.
the marlins, diamondbacks, pirates, astros, nationals, athletics…. take your pick
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Marlins and Nationals
Move Pittsburgh and Cincy to the East, Colorado to the Central.
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
talk of contraction
worked out pretty well for minny.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
no way the nats get contracted, too much politics involved
/no politics!!
I say we contract the cubs
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I think it's more the new
$600 millionish stadium they built recently.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
and strasburg and the phenom on the way
who will likely pull a junior (and others) and be in the bigs at 19.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Talent can be moved between teams...
really hard to move a stadium
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
but who wants to see the red sox
and yanks get them?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I'm not saying it's a good model
just the reason the Nats are here to stay…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
their owner (the lerners)
also own the cleveland browns and are one hell of a wealthy family – maybe not the pohlads in minny, but make dewitt and co. look poor.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i don't think it would hurt the yankees
just split the mets market for the most part
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
"I thought we were the Popular Front of Judeah?"
“People’s Front, twit!”
“Well then who’s the Popular Front?”
“He’s over there…”
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
"No One is to Stone Anyone...
…until I blow this whistle. Even, and I want to make this perfectly clear, even if they do say Ottavino."
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Look all I said was
Ottavino this is good steak
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Heh, I'm okay with that
Really, though: there are 20 million people in the New York metro area. Something like 12 million in the LA area (Dodgers/Angels), about 10 million in the Chicago area (White Sox/Cubs).
Not that there’s any chance this would ever happen (the Yankees and Mets would freak out), but let’s be real, New York could TOTALLY support a third team.
they even have experience at it
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
How about New Jersey?
They could be the New Jersey Pikes. Get it?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Pikers
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Bricktop
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
actually
i think i remember rumblings about the rays moving to austin. that would make me hugely happy
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
fine then why don't we just get rid of the astros all together?
and the pirates, too.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Pirtes beat the Yanks in the WS...
….they get a lifetime pass from this cow.
:=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
pirates are family
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
the AL West having an unfair advantage to every other team is a bigger deal
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a fan of inter-league....
but if they keep it, I think they should accomplish what they set out to do. Show the other fans a different style of ball. Short story…DH in the NL parks (as much as it pains me to say that), and no DH in the AL parks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
quick thought is i kind of like that
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I prefer
Ad. Ochovino
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
by YesWeOquendo on Mar 23, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
off topic plug
in related news, i spent 3 weeks down at jupiter for spring training and Salas looked really good on the mound for the most part. bit of a surprise he’s on his way down.
in unrelated news…
I’ve started a 12 team Head to Head fantasy league on Yahoo fantasy baseball.
Name your team after your favorite mustache style, or favorite baseball mustache of all time.
Using the new Auction Draft style.
This league drafts on Saturday March 27th at 8:30pm CDT.
Looking for players of all experience levels.
My only concern is that you intend to stick with the league all season.
If interested email me at mrb4567@me.com
or find the league on yahoo’s fantasy page:
league ID # 546216
password: seagate
Unless we fill up with VEB users, I will open to Yahoo users to register to make sure we fill up.
I’d love to be able to talk cardinals baseball with fellow VEB-ers while playing out the season in fantasy-baseball-dork-heaven-style.
It may be tough to fill from here,
as this is the fourth (fifth?) league sprouting up from here.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
you might be right...
but i missed the boat on those leagues.
even if it’s just a few of us and it fills out with Yahoo regulars, that’s ok too.
something different i guess....
the auction draft is new this season on yahoo, and i’m interested to see how things play out. the appeal to me is there is at least a vague comparison to team budgets. you still own some crazy all-star rosters, but you have to plan on a limited budget and fill the gaps the best you can with low cost players.
Auction Rocks!
It allows super smart baseball folks like your friendly neighborhood MooCow to acquire a team full of great players – like Pujols and Longoria and Wainwright and Josh Johnson, etc, to dominate their inferior opponents in fantasy VEB baseball!
Sayyy, wait a minute…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Pfft, My team is the best
Especially considering I missed 1/4 of the draft. Prepare to be destroyed :)
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
the Yahoo auctions seems to work fairly well
but this was my first year doing an auction draft
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Sounds interesting
but I’m already in two leagues, and that’s definitely enough for me from past years experience.
What happens if I sign up and don't participate in the draft?
Won’t the computer draft for me? Will that piss everyone off severely?
you have to many digits in your name
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Ottavino remaining in big-league camp
is just bizarre. At least until you read about how Dave Duncan took a liking to him and actually reached out to Ottavino last season. It does nothing to dispell the favoritism myth (or, is it a reality?) that follows LaDunc around and was Grievance A during the Anthony Reyes Wars on Cardinal blogs. And, with each walk issued, it will likely only get worse. I hope Ottavino takes to the bullpen and performs well, harnessing his control under the daily watch of Duncan and his magical coaching prowess. But, I feel like hoping for such a thing is just setting myself up to curse Ottavino as “Duncan’s favorite” after he walks two and then surrenders a bases-clearing double.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Reyes
I worked in the Memphis Front Office as a Baseball Operations intern in 2007 the year after we won the WS, and Reyes was never the same pitcher that he was in the WS Game 1. He spent most of his time in Memphis that next year trying not to walk people. Watching bullpen sessions, warm ups, and even playing catch with the guy, his arm had so much life to it. It hurt just playing long toss with him. So much movement on just his normal throw. He wanted to be a Cardinal, but it def was not “favoritism” that pushed him out of the Cards system. It was maybe a favoritism that kept him in for so long. But his bb/9 was horrendous in Triple-A. He had no business being on the big league roster when I knew him. And thats sad to say. He was a cool guy.
by cburris8908 on Mar 23, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about reality; I'm talking about perception.
The same LaDunca “favoritism” issue was echoed during the Rasmus-as-fourth-OFer days, when Ankiel was hitting .200, before running into the wall. (I’m still amazed that nearly every Ankiel-related article cites his running into the wall as the cause behind his terrible offensive season. He was terrible before running into the wall. Granted, his injury probably somewhat hindered his ability to bounceback, but is there any reason to believe that he could have bounced back 100% health?) Now, we have Ottavino getting the thumbs up from Duncan, after Duncan called him last season, over Salas, who is and has been better. I am not entirely upset about Salas starting in AAA, but I am also not really all that excited about Ottavino staying in big-league camp. If Ottavino sticks, and walks MLB batters like he does MiLB batters, the complaint of LaDunc favoritism is going to raise its head.
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Actually, I just looked it up, and Ankiel was hitting .247 with a.326 OBA when he hit the wall on May 4. The concern with his hitting, at the time, was more that he only had 2 HR and 11 RBI to that point on the season.
I don't know whether we should laugh, or cry
to think that he could have that kind of line and it wasn’t a concern
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
i rooted hard for ankiel
but must say, sadly, he hit the wall long before may 4 of last year
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
dude, let's stop right there....
you can take your first-hand knowledge (backed-up by hard statistics) about why Anthony Reyes isn’t a Cardinal and just show yourself right the f out of here. This is obviously no place for rational thought when it comes to LaDunc’s “favorites” and “love of veterans” and all that…you just “git”!
by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
No Doubt Favoritism Exists
Just saying Reyes hung around maybe bc of favoritism, not the other way around. That and he did have a ton of potential that he just couldnt utilize.
Chris Duncan, and Ankiel are perfect examples of guys that without their “name” would have been showed the door so much quicker on any other club. No arguements there.
by cburris8908 on Mar 23, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Clubs make personnel mistakes all the time.
Carlos Silva is apparently going to play baseball in Chicago this season for some reason.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
by hazel on Mar 23, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
it's especially bizarre when considering Salas just got sent down
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I tend to agree
with VEB on this one. Ottavino just doesnt look ready yet. We’ve heard how much of a prospect he is from Matt Leach throughout the years, but without showing any real success in Memphis, I just doubt he can do it in the bigs. Maybe i dont doubt he can do it, Id just feel alot better if we had seen him do it in Memphis before we throw him out in the 8th inning with a 1 run lead. Im already nervous enough about the back of our pen, why add more to worry about TLR?
Penny starting to remind me of Ponson
Less fat, of course.
I’m officially losing confidence in Brad Penny. Getting shelled in Spring Training is one thing. Getting shelled repeatedly by AAA’ers is another. The guy needs to get it together. Honestly, I’m desperate enough that I’d appreciate a “he’s having trouble with a new pitch” story-lie from our esteemed, prevaricating brass.
On the other hand, Garcia continues to impress. I doubt he’ll come north with the team, but I think he’s definitely the first call up with one of the starting-five misses a start or two. Pretty good insurance at that.
What are the chances that Ottavino sticks longer than Jimenez? I’d say less than 50-50.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
Clearly he is tipping pitches
I expect sometime in the next couple of a weeks a stellar Penny outing followed shortly by a spate of articles regarding Schumaker detecting Penny’s tip.
by OCCardsFan on Mar 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, I needed that!
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Mar 23, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Say it with me
Spring Training doesn’t matter. Ponson posted a 3.60 ERA in that spring.
Not afraid to nitpick
so Penny is all good then
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
more like every month
but thanks for noticing!
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
I am chaos.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
For whatever reason
Sigs don’t register with my brain. I never read them and barely notice that they’re even there.
Think; It's not illegal yet.
I see all
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
except for Taskmaster
or whomever it is that has his dissertation as a sig
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Hey, it's comedic gold
Bow down to the Carlin.
In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.
In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)
I mostly notice all4tookie's...
It looks like Dr. McCoy.
"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill
I am not a doctor, I am just all4tookie.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
by all4tookie on Mar 23, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i notice tgreenfield's
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
much obliged
ya bimbo
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>
i also notice all sorts of miscreants on the streets
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Chris Carpenter has a 10.00 ERA this spring
its prac…Spring Training people
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
all I am saying is...SSS
Tim Lincecum has a 9.39 era and a 9k to 8BB rate, while Welleymeyer is rocking it to a 1.20 era (albeit with a slightly less crappy 4 to 3 rate).
I am just not so worried about Penny…yet.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
To the extent you're saying give Penny more time
I read you loud and clear. But, spring training or not, yesterday showed that he hasn’t put things together yet.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Mar 23, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he was throwing all sinkers instead of 4-seamers like he had earlier in spring
Maybe he was toying with a new curveball grip, maybe trying to practice his splitter.
It’s essentially a practice (we talkin bout practice) against AAA hitters, I’m sure he treated it as such. As long as his velocity is there (which by all accounts it has been) there isn’t anything to care about in ST. We talkin bout practice.
Not afraid to nitpick
i pay almost zero attention to ST stats
I can’t find the stats now, but Zack Greinke got lit up for almost the entire spring last year, ending w/ an ERA close to 10. We all know how that translated to the regular season.
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
I do pay attention to the defense
save us, Boog, you’re our only hope
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree that some things are worth watching
but traditional measures of valuation can be incredibly untrustworthy in the spring
"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang
Penny has said repeatedly that he's working on a two-seamer
I haven’t seen enough of his games to be able to tell, but it seems quite possible to me that Penny is working on a sinker/two-seamer and either a) struggling with it or b) throwing so many fastballs that he’s getting knocked around because he’s not changing speeds.
But really, what it boils down to is that it’s a small spring sample size (SSSS?) and doesn’t necessarily indicate anything. Chris Carpenter’s ERA is worse than Penny’s right now, and I don’t think we’re all worried about him degenerating into a fifth starter type.
I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...
I imagine the Duncan game plans
aren’t in place in ST either, but maybe I have a vivid imagination
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
Leach on the Mothership
At his blog, Leach crunches the roster math, and posits this:
It’s very difficult to envision Jon Jay making the team, though he’s still here so he hasn’t been eliminated yet. But if Jay is out, and I believe he will be, then the other remaining question is Stavinoha versus Craig. I believe Craig has the upper hand, but I also believe it’s not set in stone.
How is “Stavinoha versus Craig” a question? Seriously. How? This is like asking, “What will I have for dessert? Turnips or ice cream?”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
by bgh on Mar 23, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Stavinoha = turnip
love it.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Mar 23, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh hell yes.
"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"
"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."
How about a nice glass of Shelbyville turnip juice?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Mar 23, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
nick stavinoha
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>
by tgreenfield on Mar 23, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Are you saying Boo turnips,
or boo-urns turnips?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 23, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
And you just know TLR is going to go with turnips
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
he's vegetarian
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Stavinoha can be the "emergency" catcher....
…that’s all I got! Can Craig try to catch?
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Mar 23, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
at this rate, Craig better learn two more positions
“But sir, there are no more positions.”
“What was your name again?”
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
"You can't be Cazana. He doesn't need a name on his jersey.
Seriously, if you want Albert’s autograph, just wait along the fence with the kids."
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
"Now if you wanna be helpful, kid, go find Nick Stavinoha and ask him if he's ever played third base."
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
"...there's a reward for my safe arrival in St. Louis. See, this milk carton says so."
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking (quietly) of Amaury,
is he going to play in Memphis this year, or get shipped back to Mexico? Has anyone heard?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
He will bestride the border like a collosus
swatting tiny spheroids back whence they came.
So, erm, both, kinda.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 23, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
to keep competitive balance alive...
Selig has demanded that the cardinals assign Amaury to the Martian league this upcoming season. This is in direct response to Brad Lidge’s complaints that it is only a four hour plain ride from mexico to St. Louis. Brad was overheard asking the commissioner "do you remember my appearance versus Pujols, now put Amaury behind him for protection… the world would surely have to reverse its rotation!’
unfortunately for Selig
the only known technology that can send a solid object to Mars in time for the start of April is Amaury Marti’s bat….
Oh the irony.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 23, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he intends to use...
just that premise, paying Amaury an extra 500 million to smack himself in the arse. Just to see what happens.
NASA will be providing the funding for this effor.t, filing it under their R&D cost center. As Amaury’s time on mars will be spent in developing and perfecting doomsday, response alternatives to the Armageddon plot.
by streamman on Mar 23, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
the large cazana collider?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Non planetary comment
why he has not risen in the ranks? He hits like crazy. Is it a defense, or age, or other defect?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
must be fear of defection?
he’s done it before.
would be cool if he was in memphis and got a sept callup – we’re talking about putting some butts in the seats!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
repost
B_Walton How are AAA starts healthier than MLB ones? RT @MatthewHLeach: Would 2 mos. of AAA starts to mitigate health risk be bad for Garcia? about 10 hours ago via TweetDeck
dgoold @B_Walton I never got sense it was about innings, it was about proving his arm could rebound start to start, and not test it at MLB level. about 11 hours ago via web
B_Walton 19 mos after TJ surgery and counting. RT @dgoold: It was proving his arm could rebound start to start, not test it at MLB level. about 10 hours ago via TweetDeck
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
okay, I'll say it
I’m pleased for the man stew that Joe Mather is projected to go north.
And we were so worried when DeRosa left. Team DAR holds steady!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
WOOOOOOO!
That is really what comes to mind when I read this. You should here the woo of a Woo Girl from HIMYM when you read that by the way.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
please tell me you're not a woo girl
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Do I seem like a woo girl?
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
not at all, just asking because you said you should hear it & it confused us
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Wouldn't you like to know...
sorry it was sitting there on a tee.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I am getting concerned about the amount of guys in the bullpen
That walk a lot of guys. That is why Salas getting sent down is such a worry to me
I don't like it either
I was hoping they’d groom Salas for post-Frankie.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Can Craig pitch?
Might help his chances.
He took. It out.
by flipthebird15 on Mar 23, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Garcia was drafted
and supposed to be the closer of the future. Then it was Chris Perez, and Garcia switched to a starter/long relief bc of Chris Perez…..switch him back to closer?
i don't remember any of that before
He has always been a starter
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hasn't Sanchez sort of taken up the closer of the future role now?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
before going to triple a
he was set to be Memphis closer in 08, but injuries kept him from doing it. but now you are making me doubt myself…
by cburris8908 on Mar 23, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Salas
finger injuries last year, i thinK?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 23, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I finally have Sanchez, Samuel, and Salas figured out
I confused them for a long time.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
can someone do a fanpost so we can tell them apart all season long?
I swear I had them figured out during the minor league postseason, then screwed them up again.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Samuel is the one that can't hit the broad side of a barn, right?
I hope so, otherwise my way of keeping track of the bad one by way of Cheers is gonna have to change
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
veolcity: Samuel 96-99, Sanchez 94-96, Salas 90-92
Breaking Pitch: Samuel slider, Sanchez slider, Salas curve
command: Samuel terrible, Sanchez average, salas good
build: Samuel tall and lanky, Sanchez short and wire thin, salas medium build
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Mar 23, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
so Samuel is just like Sam from Cheers. Thanks!
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
for the love of everything holy, keep him away from diane!
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
by gdm426 on Mar 24, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I still want Sam to kill Diane
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
how should he do it?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
and I never really figured out why
it must have something to do with Shelley Long’s voice.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Mar 24, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
it's like the three bears
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Does anyone know how to graph Pitch f/x data?
I already have the data I want in spreadsheets but don’t know how to actually graph it.
You can do it in excel well enough if you aren't talking entire season's worth of data
Otherwise R is probably your best option.
Not afraid to nitpick
So just break the data down to just two column's than graph that?
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you talking one/a couple game's worth?
Then yeah just drop it into columns and you’ll pretty much get what you want out of a scatterplot.
Not afraid to nitpick
yeah i was looking at franklins sept/oct
I can get it to scatter point plot. The problem is that it doesn’t look like any other pitch f/x graph that I am used to seeing.
I am getting this
when I want something that looks like this
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i used matlab or something like it in College
I am learning the limitation of excel.
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I use Excel for almost all of my graphing, it should be fine
What exactly do you want to graph?
by vivaelpujols on Mar 24, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
All the pitch f/x how to's I find
Seem to be about making a database. Which you really don’t need
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Excel can handle up to 30000 rows
The typical pitcher throws 2-3 thousand pitches in a season.
by vivaelpujols on Mar 24, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm going to take kind of a weird angle on this
and suppose that Ottavino remaining in camp means 2 things:
they want to work with him and see why he’s having the issues he’s having in the minors, Dave Duncan and staff may be wanting to take the opportunity to see what’s going on with his delivery, etc.
and McClellan is going to be in the bullpen because they are so impressed with Garcia
just an alternate take…. not saying that this is what I think is happening, but it could be possible eh?
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions
so you think McClellan is 5th starter and Ottavino is bullpen...
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I won't really be disappointed until Ottavino actually messes up and gets sent down
then it will just seem like a waste of time. but I guess that’s the gamble they’re taking. what I will be disappointed by is if Stavino makes the team
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel the same way
I figure Garcia’s time will come no matter what, so I’m OK with them being cautious. But Stav really doesn’t need to make the team if we have Craig and Mather.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
it just seems that by making Ottavino a bullpen guy they are losing a starter
sure, McClellan might work as a starter, so they actually wouldn’t be… but maybe Otto isn’t a bullpen guy and then they are short a staple in the bullpen. so confusing
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn't mean they're scrapping all starting plans for Ottavino.
I’d certainly rather see AO at Memphis, KM as a reliever, and JG as the 5th starter.
STAB STAB STAB
that's the ideal situation I think
who knows though
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Reference
Adam W, and all the others that have apprenticed in the bullpen before graduating to starter. Not a bad way to go if they perform like Adam. JG has performed admirably this spring, but I am still worried about his lack of solid starts at AAA. I would rather see him get more work in Memphis, and come up mid season to replace whomever is not performing as a starter (KM?, and not trying to jink him).
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Waino started as a starter
closer was a miraculous stopgap
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
That is not my recollection
or what the record shows. 2005, 0 GS, 1 GF; 2006 0 GS. 10 GF; then full starter from 2007. Link:
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
what Eff said
don’t make me find the “wha??” face Adam made at the MLBN crew just a few days ago when they asked him about shifting from closing to starting.
…because it’s a pain to look for videos on the Mothership.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Agreed
My point is that Cards seem to initiate ML starters in the BP – Kyle, Thompson (remember when he pitched over 40 scoreless innings over AA and AAA as I recall some years ago) Waino slightly, Boggs and Hawksworth.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
That's actually. . .
the old school way to do things. I approve of that approach, FWIW.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Parisi, Walters, Reyes, Garcia
I don’t think it’s a precedent, I think it’s a case-by-case situation
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
so is/was ottavino, so why isnt having ottavino pitch this year out of the pen
hopefully have some success and try out for the 4th/5th starting spot next year
he isn't anywhere near ready to be an MLB starter
and I kinda doubt he will be after a year in a major league pen. He was rocked, badly, for much of 2009 in AAA and still has pretty appalling control. If he’s ever going to be a major league starter he needs to work on his starting pitching in the minor leagues. Adam had AAA pretty much figured out by the time he came up as a reliever.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 23, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
However
under DD’s tutelage, including personal call last year, he is apparently not now the pitcher that you are describing. Don’t forget after his disastrous start last year (0-9\), he came back to 7-3 (if I am not mistaken). Anyhow, would you prefer Otter or Salas in the pen, assuming KL is our 5th starter?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
win/loss
shminloss
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
well, he was horrible in the 9-loss streak
and good thereafter is what he’s saying.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
He was OK in the 2nd half last year
but that’s a pretty small number of games, and his control was still not good during that period. It’s just that he was so mind-blowingly abysmal in the first half that the 2nd was a big improvement…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
that's a fair assessment, imo
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
my take would be
that they like what they’ve seen since his 0-9 start last year and subsequent talk with dunc so they want to keep him close to dunc for tutelage for an eventual starting role, and they decided this tutelage is more important to his development than starting in AAA. garcia, otoh, they see as more or less a finished product, not requiring hands-on tutelage, but needing at this point to have his innings regulated in memphis with an eye on his long-term health for his run in st. louis.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I loved Waino as the eventual closer
but people need to remember who beat him out for that 5th starters job?
Yeah, that 2006 team would have ended up with a whole lot more regular season wins and we wouldn’t hear all this “worst WS champions EVAR!” crap if Waino would have been given that 5th starters job.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
My recollection is. . .
that losing half of the starting lineup down the stretch was the 2006 team’s biggest problem. They all got healthy (enough, in Rolen’s case. . . better baseball through chemistry) at the same time to start the post-season.
by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 23, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
my recollection was that a pretty good team had some terrible losing streaks
I am just saying that just because it worked great once with Waino, doesn’t mean it is a perfect plan.
Now I gotta go check to see what the deal was with MattyMo and Alan Benes
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I don't even know why I am arguing this
I actually don’t mind Otto in the pen, I’d rather have Salas though, but I am used to being disappointed by roster construction.
I just want Omar** nowhere near the bullpen
* *Jaime for those that missed yesterday’s thread
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
I am
not advocating starters in the pen at ML level, just saying that it seems that is the way the Cards do it, in part. Agree on Salas.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
i think it’s faulty to look at waino’s situation and expect it to work flawlessly time and again
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Waino es bueno
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
that will go down as one of, if not the weirdest, Cardinals WS champion team of all time
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
we were due
you can’t have that many 100-win teams and not put a ring on it.
I could go with a sex metaphor here, but I can’t think of a good one.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
all the single ladies
all the single ladies
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Mar 23, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he got
nine mo’ fingers
that don’t mean
he’s done
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh, we didn't get wtf they were talking about
beyonce sucks
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
why does putting Ottavino in the bullpen to start the season....
mean “losing a starter” longerterm? As a former pitcher I’m always baffled by this thinking.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 23, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well
maybe it’s not good for them to be going back and forth a lot?
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
if they were having Otto go back and forth a lot over a short period of time, perhaps that would be a concern...
but since that hasn’t happened (and isn’t likely to), I don’t think we should be all that worried about it.
Otto has been a starting pitcher his whole life – it’s perfectly reasonable to think (as the Cards may) that a 24yr old starter with good stuff can benefit the team and himself by coming out of the bullpen to start the season. Doesn’t necessarily mean that they’ve forever given up the idea of Otto being starter and doesn’t foreclose him being starter down the line, short-term or long-term.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 23, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Stav will probable be cut if he doesn't make the team
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
you tease!
If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.
by cardzfanbub on Mar 23, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I keep hearing these mysterious
mentions from Good Reporter and Leach that a trade for pitching is still possible. Perhaps (crosses fingers) they are just showcasing the chair?
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
I think if Lugo was healthy
He would be a half decent trade chip
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanna keep the Glare for a while
at least till midseason
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
can you see packaging
Lugo / Stavinoha and potentially someone else for someone’s blocked AAA righty?
Lugo and Stavinoha are pretty much worthless
we might get a long-shot relief arm in single A or something but those sort of players aren’t going to bring back anything significant.
If Felipe Lopez is signing a deal for less than $2m, guaranteed, Julio Lugo for the league minimum isn’t really going to be worth very much.
Everyone has two or three players like Stavinoha in AAA. He’s no more than a throw-in.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 23, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
nor do i
perhaps monk means worthless as in trade value, which i agree with – he’s more valuable to us than anyone he could bring in a trade.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yes, that's what I think
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I definitely think Lugo has trade value.
In fact the Red Sox could really use him right now. Some team will get desperate enough to give us a decent reliever for him.
"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.
by indakind on Mar 23, 2010 10:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
now that would be hilarious if he went back to boston!
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Why could the redsox use him?
Have they had an injury I’m not aware of? Their starting 2b and SS (Scutaro and Pedroia) are both way better, and they’ve got Jed Lowrie as a backup who had a wrist injury in 2009, but if he’s healthy he’s probably quite a bit better than Lugo.
They’ve also got Tug Hulett as a backup, who’s a similar sort of player (projects as a passable bat with a crappy glove).
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
For the uneducated
who is good reporter?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
it's a play on "Goold"
and to distinguish him from strauss
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Bernie is good, just not Goold good, and not as consistently good
having to dumb down some of his stuff for the crazies over at the P-D doesn’t help his cause.
I still wish he would write a guest article over here under a pseudonym, just so we could get a taste of what he could do to impress us.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Werner Ticklasz?
Not afraid to nitpick
by joker24 on Mar 23, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like Bernie on the radio
but I was mostly raised on Bernie’s Bits, so I’ll never be a Bernie In Print Hater
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
true
Bernie isn’t terrible (especially when you consider that he is essentially a color commentator for the post, for everything sports related that comes through their door). But he just does not hold a candle to Derrick Goold. I enjoy combining Goold and Leach together. I try to ignore Strauss and Burwell, and enjoy Hummel to the fullest extent that I can.
I do wish Goold would cut out the typos
but I’m thinking there’s no one in that pressbox he trusts to slash through his miscues
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Yes,
I just find myself willing to read over them. Half the time I do not even notice them anymore, as I have the same issue when I rush something out the door here at work (technical content is far more than adequate, I just make small typographical mistakes because my mind races ahead of my fingers on the keyboard).
i am just random and weird
I just randomly put words in sentences. I can even proof read and it seems fine in my mind. It is not until I read it again 10 mins later that I am all WTF did I just type. I have found people don’t seem to mind the crazed random ramblings as long as I don’t misspell words also.
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
sort of a random minimalist
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Flim
we mind, it’s just that you do so often, we figure it’s on purpose.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 23, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I have medication for it
But it cuts down on my creativity so much that I only take it when I need it
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
you using gdm's device?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Like this interview
with The Baseball Analysts?
Check it out. It’s so good
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It sure is
Thanks for the link.
I loved the dig the interviewer wanted to take at Wade.
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
from reading Bernie's print stuff in the last year or so
he seems pretty knowledgeable about mainstream, advanced stats and uses them to support his points. I would say he does so in a “simplified way” rather than dumbed-down.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 23, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I enjoy Bernie, mostly (and of course Goold, who is excellent)
He isn’t a dumbass like some other columnists there.
Often he seems willing to look at different points of view and try to analyze things.
I don’t always agree with the analysis, but if I had to be in print as often as he does, I doubt I would do as well.
Play ball!
by IL and StL Fan on Mar 23, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
So this is kind of his last chance then?
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
that basteech will probably go and hit 4 home runs the rest of ST or something
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
that, I have read
something about team officials saying he’s proved all he can in the minors
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What am I supposed to do today? There's no baseball... :-(
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50 pushups, 10 laps around the block
maybe some situps
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
the bench doesn't warm itself, vexed
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
all kinds of different beers to try out
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
what if you're saving it for the games?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
It's Spring Training....
this is all aboot practice Y2S.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
it's practice!!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I've personally been training all off season....
took a day or to off after the series, but then got right back into my 12 oz. curl regimen. I’m in the best drinking shape of my life.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 23, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Round is a shape.
Best shape of my life.
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
I prefer the dodecahedron look...
…nearly as sweet as a Buckminsterfullerene
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so you're saying
the lineup-dice look?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ah, the dice...yes.
I thought you were talkin about a BuckyBall…that’s just a soccer ball by an awesome name… buckminsterfullerene. lol
I just like typing that out.
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we don't want to know what you do alone in your room
though, I do agree. Bucky rules.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
hey, I thought of something you could do, vexed
do some mustache projections on some Cardinals.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
This is certainly possible
Provide a list of the players you’d like to see with sick ’staches and beardlys and fu-manchu-ified.
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TLR and Dave Duncan please
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
let's see some of the new guys
we know what the vets look like
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
yeah, definitely mather
and craig, too (while we have him)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
gotta get your reps in
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Stimpy: [crying] "What'll we do 'til then?"
Ren: "Why, you could shave your yak… or eat olive loaf! "
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
harvesting yak fur is apparently relatively easy.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I wouldn't try it
Tibetan carpets come from sheep wool. Yak are beasts of burden, plus their milk and by products.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
well there are yak ranches here in the U.S.
they just showed the process on t.v. fairly simple, especially contrasted with the skittish bison they did right after.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Never
herd about that. Where are they? Wouldn’t mind visiting one. As mentioned a few days ago, I am working on a livestock project in Nepal that includes yak breeding, but no wool harvest.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Check out Mr. yak expert over here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
All I wanted were some opinions on Gaudin
but I got all this bonus yak info for free!!
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
by all4tookie on Mar 23, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
next, staplers.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
He's a total "RIP by TROGDOR"
Relief Inducing Pitcher by Totally Retiring One Guy Dominating-ly (Only Righties)
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
by all4tookie on Mar 23, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
10 minutes...
6 minutes thinking, 3 minutes spent burninating the countryside, 1 minute with HTML tags. And 5 lines of notebook paper.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
by all4tookie on Mar 23, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
TROGDOR is the best
song to buy on whichever Guitar Hero it’s on… Always brings a smile to my face.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
burninating
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>
The arm isn't consistently left-handed..
Or maybe it is, I couldn’t tell…
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
by all4tookie on Mar 23, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ummm, I'm pretty sure
he’s “on fire like a peasant.” I’ve played the game.
"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill
I was wandering through Best Buy
and found there’s a full fledged Homestar Runner based game now… almost bought it then though better of it.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
plus it's multy purpose...
-letter opener
-staple remover
-apple eater
-annoying co-worker repelletnt
"What do you think of this pile of mult I've got here?"
“Hmmmm. It’s pretty multy, I guess.”
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 23, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was out of the office sick yesterday...
so today is my Monday, and the brain finger disconnect is in full effect.
That could definately cause problems later in the day...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I'm starting to prefer multy beers to hoppy ones.
As long as the ones are cold.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Oh matty
A one that is not cold is scarcely a one at all
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know
sort of got used to drinking them about room temp in europe – definitely more flavor, though they were all good beers, too. that said, i think i prefer them cold mostly.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Actually I agree
Some beer has to be allowed to warm up from fridge temperature.
But then I wouldn’t be able to slip in a Strongbad reference.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
Whatever dude
where I come from we only drink CUH-HOLD ones.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Yeah
depends on the beer. Most British beers should be drunk around room temp (or perhaps just below – 15 celsius or so). I don’t think any beers except crappy macro lagers should be drunk much below 8-10.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
he's our man in nepal
spreading cardinal nation
let me go find it. I think it was a Dirty Jobs, somewhere in a northern state.
all they did was herd them into a one-animal-wide pen, lock their head in there at the end, and pluck the extra fur off on top. the yaks just held still. the bison went nuts.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
well, here's a video
http://videos.howstuffworks.com/discovery/28308-dirty-jobs-combing-the-yak-video.htm
I don’t know if this is the same place, but this might be:
http://www.springbrook.com/Yak/Yak-Index.html
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it is in fact the correct farm
I just subjected myself to Mike Rowe kissing a yak.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
doesn't ever SB Nation blog have a yak expert?
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
Sorry
to be truth teller, but someone mentioned yak, and I had to respond. the video is cool, but still, it is just culling the hair, not used for wool. Sorry to get technical, but since I have always assumed that is a somewhat user friendly site (except during game days), I was just trying to contribute. I seriously have a friend out of Wyoming who is a reputed consultant on yak, and livestock in the Himalaya. OK, way off topic. Is Allen Craig going to make the roster?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
No no no
We love it. I was just mentioning the other day how diverse this community is.
Now we have a yak expert
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I'm pretty sure that with everyone on here
we’re only about 2 people away from having an expert in pretty much everything.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Exactly!
It wasn’t a criticism. Yak was just the last thing I expected to read about on VEB.
STAB STAB STAB
there is one more letter
and it’s spring. Does anyone grow zinnias?
"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill
they are using it for wool
the video is only part of the whole segment
they later showed some of the product from it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Ok
But my wife, a sherpani, says absolutely not. But I will check with other herders tomorrow. Not that it is germane to anything to do with the Cards.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That begs the question
but I am not going there!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I know nothing of the subject
But just googling real quick, there are plenty of sites that suggest that yak is indeed used for wool
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I better
get up to speed. But what I was saying, the wool is not used for carpets. Sorry to bore everyone.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Not at all
It’s actually one of the most interesting subthreads I’ve ever read here
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
Not boring at all.
Stupid pictures of cats and bacon, etc.; that’s boring.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
My sister in law is headed to a bacon festival this weekend
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
HOW HAVE I NOT HEARD ABOUT THIS
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
looks like
Nine Inch Nails will be there
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Those sneaky buggers
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Those groupies must be happy...
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
I was thinking of starting up a tribute Trent Reznor/Frasier mash-up band
any ideas on what I should call it?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You'll have to change the concept around
Go with The Nine Inch Neil Patrick Harrises.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
by mattybobo on Mar 24, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I love you are married to a sherpani.
I’m pretty sure that makes you one of the coolest people I kind of know.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
That would make him one of the strangest people I kind of know.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
that would be an interesting ceremony
maybe common in nepal though, idk
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I said "one of"
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
i learned on fresh air the other day that yak hair is used to simulate body hair in hollywood
because it looks like human hair but is twice as long, thus allowing techs to glue part of the hair down.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
i assume that's the long hair
not the fuzzy fur on top
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
your not a doctor
You’re a big, fat, curly-headed, yak
Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")
don't tell me my species
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
From Remo Williams: the Adventure Begins:
“You move like pregnant yak wif two crub feet!”
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
crazy fact I also just learned
Violin strings are made from lamb intestines
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Crazy fact I learned from that thread about that crazy fact on reddit
Violin strings are rarely made from lamb intestines anymore.
synthetic?
like tennis strings?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
guitar strings were once catgut. now they are nylon or steel.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
tennis too, i'm almost positive
i was just asking if they’ve gone to synthetic, a la tennis strings – not that tennis strings were ever made from lamb intestines.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Catgut is made from sheep's guts
it’s never actually been made of cats; that’s just the name.
Anyhoo, they’re all metal or man-made fibre now…
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Be careful
when trying to shave your yak, it is an unheard of practice. Seriously, when meeting yak on the trail, keep to the upside of the slope, they have a tendency to push you over the brink if you go downside. But their cheese is great,!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 23, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Props to our big cousins' milk and cheese...
…but u can’t beat a Holstein for production!
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I'm kind of hoping Ottavino makes the team
He has potential to raise the Cardinals DAR scores:
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Mar 23, 2010 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
his mustache upside is there
but I’ll believe it when I see it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
why is he pitching by a river
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
That might be grass.
But I thought it was a river at first, too. I guess its hard to tell.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Lightly dusted Snowy pasture?
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yeah, cause I think that's supposed to be a baseball field
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I resemble this remark.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
by RiverRat on Mar 23, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Who is from....
…you guessed it: Evansville, IN. I am the coolest.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
And so is Skip, you covetous robot.
STAB STAB STAB
by spants on Mar 23, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That can be fixed.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
...whoa.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's okay, i'm taken too.
/window shopping
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
by IHeartBoog on Mar 23, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and here you can't give gdm away
trust us, it’s been tried & tried & tried & tried. but no one would take the poor bastard
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Yeah he does.
Wow.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
cuts from minor leagues
First baseman Matt Arburr, a hulking slugger known for his light-tower shots during spring training, and six others were released Tuesday, and they are now minor-league free agents.
The others released were: LHP Justin Fiske, RHP Marco Gonzalez, RHP Jonathan Gonzalez, RHP Reynier Gonzalez, C Blake Murphy and RHP Andres Rosales.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
those dream killers
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i'm in a terrible computer for this
any pictures from yesterday or sunday?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
holllllllly shit i am excited
Just scored tickets to the opening exhibition series at Target Field and I get to see our Cardinals. This is awesome news, even though I’m positive I won’t see all of the starters. And the new ballpark looks incredibly nice, even if it will freezing cold.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>
jealousy!
you must bring back reports of the food on a stick.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I'll be there for both games, and I'll try and bring my camera
and subsequently do a photo report/fanpost/food review. As a resident of MN, outdoor baseball has been a long time coming. best ending to spring break ever.
"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>
boom
http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=43333833
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
brilliant!
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i think they have more
I like the usage of it, because you can try different ones on different days… think of the scene.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
as you sip
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Mustachioed espresso mugs
Do those come with skinny jeans and a fixed gear bike?
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
if they came with striped socks
we’d make a killing
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
big clunky sunglasses, too, apparently.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
do you have a stash of staches?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
puts me in mind of Lewis Black's classic Soy Milk rant
“There is no such thing as Soy Milk, you know why? Because there is no Soy Titty what you are drinking is soy juice, only they can’t sell soy juice because when you say soy juice you actually throw up a little in your mouth. In fact there is only one kind of milk, and that is moo fuck milk.
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
well it is certainly likely to upset some soybeans!!!
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
I love that routine...
when I had a roommate that started buying soy milk in his dabbling in veganism thing I harassed him with the soy juice thing every chance I got.
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
Glaus apparently said at first base, now he has to think.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i should've added
it sounds so much dumber when joe morgan says it
(i think it was him… i’m trying not to listen)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Rich Hill changes delivery
Hopes for better results
In other news, history repeats itself
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
HFS
We killed Rich Hill and gave his identity to Mark Mulder, didn’t we
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
this began as a joke and came true
now, for that stav-for-utley trade…
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
by cardball on Mar 23, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
April birthdays. other than Kinney, last March birthday coming up
is Brendan Ryan.
April
(11th Pete Kozma)
19th Dennys Reyes
27th Chris Carpenter
28th David Freese
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Boog will be at Space Coast Stadium that day
which for some reason amuses me.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Chris Lambert and Christy Mathewson in a no-holds-barred showdown
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
30th - VexedTechie
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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS
David Freese
shares my birthday. Weird.
"Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals." --Churchill
You guys should get together and party
just make sure he doesn’t drive you home after…
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
by fourstick on Mar 23, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait
I think I already did that once. And from my recollection, the three of us didn’t fit my little car very well, lol.
Sadly, i no longer have that car…boo…
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that is sad
I like that car. I always enjoyed driving small cars.
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
Decided to use the cash I’m saving to fund some other activities and the RX didn’t really fit with “family planning”, which is the stage we’re in at this point. I was a sad day to see it drive away though…the college kid who bought it still calls and gives me shit about it. Said he loves the car though.
Hopefully I can afford a fun car again at some point.
Can Colby round out our new MV3?
that car kicked ass dude
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
was it a RX 7? what do you drive now?
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Roster thoughts from Strauss
per twitter — JoeStrauss : Simple Cards roster math: 2 of 3 OF’s stay (Stavy, Mather, Craig); either Boggs or Otto in pen. Garcia @ 5th starter, KMac set-up seems set
Dislikes: Strauss
Likes: This set up.
by Mister Eff on Mar 23, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
has garcia been penciled in to start an upcoming spring game?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he was supposed to start yesterday
bit the rain made him pitch in relief. no like it really matters whether or not he pitches the first inning. he still got a starter’s worload yesterday
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i still won't believe he's the designated 5th starter
until he actually starts a spring game and goes 5 with yadi catching. ladunc are very big on details, which is why i can believe otto to the pen because they pitched him yesterday on “short” rest, as he would do in the pen.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I am beginning to see KMac and Garcia in the 4 & 5
with Hill in AAA and Penny on the DL…
:=8/
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
the other DL
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Cud Explain his current stinkage...
…besides we all know guys get sent to the DL injury or no sometimes.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I'm sure they could punch his shoulder...
then send him down with inflamation or something
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
but he was scheduled to start yesterday
the only reason why he didn’t is because penny (lohse?) got rained out, so he just pitched the latter four inning after lohse (penny?)
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
understood
there’s still time for it to happen, though, so if it does i can believe it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i understand that
honestly, i’m not gonna buy into him as the fifth starter until he’s still doing it adewuately in the middle of may
but i think he’s the favorite now and everybody’s favorite writer, joe strauss says that it’s pretty much set
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
somewhere, jon jay has a sad.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Jay is hitting .237/.286/.289
Surely even he must have known for a while now that there was no way he’s making this team.
but he has a uzr of +awesome/150!
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
Because he read a Strauss tweet?
Or, because he wasn’t given an obtuse insult for being a non-prospect in a Strauss tweet?
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
Mather or Jay HAVE to make the team
We need a backup CFer. Mather is RH so he gets the job. Mather is on the roster. So it really comes down to Stav vs Craig. Craig is 2 years younger than Stav and has more options. If Stav doesn’t make the team I think their could be a good chance he gets cut. Both are having decent springs but Craig is having the better of the 2. Both are on the 40 man roster. Stav has played in the MLB while Craig has not.
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I really think we're trotting Stav out there so frequently so that other teams get a look
And we hopefully get something useful for him. I’m thinking something similar to a Luke Gregerson back… Someone with a good AAA track record but just hasn’t had a chance in the majors
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I will literally cry if Stav makes this team over Craig.
Craig plays more positions. Stav has played MLB before, but he sucked at it.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
in st. louis, we call that veteran presence.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Mar 23, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Anyone know what Kelvin Jiminez is doing?
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
i think he's a beef-eater, moocow
or maybe that’s his brand of gin
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I so wish we could have summed up his Cardinals career with "pitched in Cardinals' system at AAA, was unimpressive"
Not afraid to nitpick
Unfortunately for us
He was pretty impressive in his two years with Memphis, posting sub-3.00 ERAs both years.
you might need some Kleenex.....
If Stav makes the team, it won’t be because the Cards think Stav is “better,” at offense or defense, than Craig. Obviously Stav is not. I assure you that the Cards and their many scouts, coaches, and statisticians have figured out that the guy they named minor-league player of the year last year is a better baseball player than the Stav.
But taking Stav over Craig eliminates the problem of having the 25th guy on the bench be your organization’s best young RH hitter….how are you going to get 300AB for Craig this year with our outfield being set and the fourth outfielder, Mather, being a RH-bench bat with pop who happens to play better defense than Craig?
If Stav sits at the end bench and only gets 2 PAs a week as a pinch hitter…who f’cking cares? But Craig is bona fide; he’s got prospects. Craig still might take Ludwick’s full-time gig next year or might fill in longer term for a Pujols or Ludwick injury this year (Gob-forbid). Craig is better prepared to fulfill his promise by getting full-time PAs in Memphis, not by sitting at the end of the bench.
by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 23, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
There is no room for logic in this discussion, sir.
FREE ALLEN CRAIG!
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
There's no way anyone on TLR's bench only gets 2 PA a week
Hell, Waino will probably get more as a PH
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
happy to hear the craig is bona fide bit
dude can hit, and he’s not jake fox in the field either
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
By most accounts I've heard
His range is fine, he just throws like a little girl
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
he will find you
little known fact is, quiet ole allen craig is a badass
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
rec'd for the OBWAT reference
"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
Mather is set I think
it’s just a question of, well, read my sig
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I wish I could show this to TLR and he would say,
“Craig? Who is that?”
But, after I explain to him who Craig is, he would say, “That settles it, bgh. If VEB and Carrds Fan in Chitown think that young hitter is better than Stavinoha, that’s good enough for me. Stavinoha is going down to Memphis.”
"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."
--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS
are you saying there's a chance?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
feel bad for kmac
i like the dude and i think he could be a serviceable fifth starter. but this is good news
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
SBN'd!
that was fucking insane, i didnt even do anything!
anyway, yeah it’s not like k-mac is getting cut. if he’s valuable as a set-up guy then that’s his role. can’t feel too bad for him, he’s still a major league baseball player.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
sometimes
i’ll be typing out a post and everything i’ve typed will just disappear and the cursor will go back to the subject line. infuriating
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
that sig is alternately entertaining and distracting
it kind of makes me fear you in a non-grammar pedant way
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Trade Him to the Nats...
…they got rid of Anger Management Guy, I mean Elijah Dukes, and cud use an outfielder.
:=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
yeah
tons of options, he could go play in Japan right? he’d be stavzilla
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I Thought That Was Courtney Love....
…oh wait that was Staphzilla…
:=8P
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Mar 23, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like this spring training notebook
see the note on Carp and his brood
it’s unpolished but lots of cool details
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
pettini calls tony "skipper"
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they all call him 'skipper'
I don’t know what Dunc calls him, of course. but I’ve gotten the impression over the years that’s the proper form of address
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
seems formal
most guys use the diminutive “skip” – maybe that’s confusing on this team?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
yeah, I meant skip or skipper
and I have heard ‘skip’ more often.
Skip was over there against the Red Sox
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
braves v. mets is incredibly sloppy
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
FYI, MLB highlights are working in Firefox for me again
For those who have been having similar issues with that.
it totally has something to do with ad block
As soon as I allowed mlb.com to run ads, it worked
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It was doing it to me,
but started working yesterday. I didn’t make any changes to ABP.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
firefox had an update today
for me at least
not that i had the issues before
my main problem with mlb video is i can watch one video in full screen and after that, if i make it go full screen, the video stops playing.
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
yeah after that update, all the f'ing ads started poping up
we had to uninstall ad block then reinstall it.
and F MLB.com, their videos still won’t play
Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man
Little Flute, Little Flute....
Looks so grand in his Cardinals suit.
Throws a ball with lots of sink
Lots of walks will mean he stinks.
Hey there, there goes the Little Flute…
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
by The MooCow on Mar 23, 2010 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
fine, I'll rec it.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I Dunno....
…I noticed there is STILL shouting going on over in yesterday’s thread. Silly cow puns are always better!
;=8)
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
I remember when I first starting visiting VEB
I was totally like WTF?! about the moocow, but over time I have realized the cow is quite the clever character
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't you mean WTH?
(what the hay?)
STAB STAB STAB
by spants on Mar 23, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Rec'd
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I think making cow puns is my moo favorite VEB pasture (I mean pastime)
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I don’t veal the same way. I can think of many things I’d leather do. Lets’ steer the conversation away from this – think outside the ox.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
by all4tookie on Mar 23, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
i made a T-shirt that said
Don’t think outside the box. The problem lies within the box
(picture of box)
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope you didn't wear it around spants or clemsongirl
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
by all4tookie on Mar 23, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ZING
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay.
I have thought about this one for awhile and I don’t get it. Spants because she would stab the inside of the box? Me because what?
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Like the Justin Timberlake/Andy Samberg thing?
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Why just us?
There are other females on this blog.
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Actually, if I understand it correctly, no, it's not like that
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Now I'm confused again.
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You prolly should just let this one go
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean I'm probably going to have to
because it is apparently not something you can say in plain language here. I’m just too curious.
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i still don't get it
and i knew that
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Mar 23, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
well
what about iheartboog or d-dee?
i fail to see why it’s specifically relevant to you and clemgirl
or really how it makes sense at all. if one were to be exceptionally sexist, they might posit that the box itself is the only thing not problematic
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Mar 23, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Some people only see women as one thing, so perhaps that's the difference.
Also, maybe tookie thought CG and I would protest such a shirt if worn in our presence? I don’t know. It’s how i read it. I thought it was funny and I rec’d it.
STAB STAB STAB
Or maybe
those were the only two female VEB’ers he could think of
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
just for the record
That is not what I meant
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
It really is funny when you have to explain it! The idea was that female VEBers would be offended if they saw a shirt implying that females caused problems (with an explicit picture on a T-shirt, no less). Spants and Clemsongirl were just my two notable examples of VEB females.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
Explain
You are guys are just making shit up
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I have seen that phrase before and even if i had known
that is the last thing that would come to my mind.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 23, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
heh
I am not going down as some misogynist
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
is it happy hour?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Next round's on me
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 23, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
MOOHOO*
i ham disappointed
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Mar 23, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Mooochos Gracias!
;=8)
And I notice that the cow-hater from yesterday’s thread isn’t here today…
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
Don't you mean DOMOOOOOOOnating?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 23, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh here we go
FESPN has picked up on Albert’s you know what.
(don’t say it, spants!)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I think we're all on a roll today.
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no! you have said the one word we cannot hear!
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Mar 23, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
sh
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I don't get any of this.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
[shock!]
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
This has to be a joke.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 24, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
those are herring
not trout….
and if you have not seen this movie, my calling you a looney just now in an above post will make absolutely no sense to you.
[checks twitter feeds. notes strauss bitching. closes twitter feeds.]
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's the whole page.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
dey turk r twart!
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Mar 23, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
he's like an even less funny jerry seinfeld.
“and that lambert field! what’s with those airports?!? and the security! it’s like it takes longer to get through the lines! than it does! to fly to where i’m going! you know? and always with the shoes!”
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
"And what about those airline peanuts???"
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
% of current roster played in the Cardinal minor league system at one time
15/25 and that includes the entire starting lineup except Holliday. That seems pretty solid
i'd think it's up there
the twins come to mind, and then some organizations like the A’s that make trades for prospects…maybe the padres.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
OT: Help with HR Predictions
So I’m in this home run pool, and its sort of hard to explain, but I pick one guy from five different groups of guys that I think will hit the most HRs this season. Then I get one write-in pick. I’m sort of deciding between Jose Lopez, Jay Bruce, and Matt Kemp. Any thoughts among those three as to who will hit the most HRs? Or any other ideas? The most obvious HR people are already in the categories.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
it can be anyone i want
except basically the top 25 HR hitters from last season – all the way down to tulowitski, cuddyer, etc.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Ian Stewart is likely to rake too worth a look
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
Its either Kemp or Bruce
More or less a toss up…Kemp probably the safer bet to get 25+…Bruce is only 23 and the Reds outfield is pretty full.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
+1 to
Curtis Granderson. Yankee Stadium was built for him.
Here is an image of Granderon hitting pattern from Comerica Park superimposed onto new Yankee stadium
Blue is HR and Everything is not
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
oops turns out granderson is already on the list
he’s in the same category as kinsler and a-rod
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
that is just half his at bats
Just the ones he batted at Comerica Park
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you have a list of players already picked?
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i can pick whoever i want from each category
cat 1 – apu, prince, howard, reynolds, a. gonzales, pena
cat 2 – tex, dunn, bay, aaron hill, werth, d lee, adam lind, miguel cabrera
cat 3 – ibanez, morales, nelson cruz, longoria, zimmerman, braun, cuddyer, tulo
cat 4 – branyan, ethier, kinsler, arod, uggla, utley, granderson
then one write-in.
right now, i’m leaning toward reynolds, tex, longoria, and arod
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
If Votto is healthier this year, he's a big threat to hit a lot of HRs in that bandbox.
STAB STAB STAB
I would pick
Howard – Solid pick in that ball park for 45 to 50 HR’s
Dunn – 40 HR a year is given
Braun – due for a rebound off of 2009. Had a 10% drop of his career average in regards to FB%
Arod – healthier should get more at bats this year
Konerko – Solid for 30 HR’s
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I appreciate all the input from everyone!
this is really helpful
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
i'd say reynolds
also justin morneau. twins new ballpark is only like 325 to right
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
by YesWeOquendo on Mar 23, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Albert is actaully playing with a possible healthy elbow this season
put him down for 55 HR
Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
well, the *elbow* is healthy...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i can't pick albert
i dont like to be emotionally invested in fantasy baseball
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
You're like the opposite of me.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 23, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
1- Howard is a no-brainer. What's your thinking behind Reynolds?
Howard will hit 45 every year. Reynolds has never hit 45.
2. Dunn, definitely. Tex, Miggy and Lind aren’t bad options but Dunn’s the most consistent.
3. Braun. I don’t actually think this one’s especially close, either. He’s comfortably topped 30 every year in the majors, and he’s been pretty durable. I don’t think anyone else in that list is a no-brainer to hit 30 for sure. Longoria doesn’t seem a bad pick but I think he’s basically Braun with a shorter track record.
4. A-Rod.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and definitely Votto as your wild-card
I think he’ll get close to 30 this year. Konerko and Kemp weren’t bad calls, either.
If you wanted to take a risk, maybe go with Hamilton.
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the top 25 HR hitters from last year are
off limits so you have to predict from the rest Seth Smith, and Ian Stewart are likely candidates Bruce and Choo could make the jump as well
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
bruce will be one of the most hyped up prospects to be a dud if he doesn't do something good this year
Choo is really good though, he might be able to hit 25
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
he's young and broke his wrist last year
i think he’s got some time before he could possibly be declared a dud.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
ah
didn’t know about the wrist. now I’m slightly more worried about cincin, well, if I were a cubs fan anyway hahahah!
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Seth Smith is a long shot to break 20
a LONG shot. Not really that keen on Stewart, either, though I think I like him more.
Bruce, though, seems a nice pick.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 25, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Seth could easily top 25 with 500 PA getting those might be the trick
he hit 15 in 387 last year and he is coming into his prime. Ian managed 25 while hitting .228 last year this year he should get a least 100 more PA and that should push him up over 30 reminds me of a young troy glass
Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.
you're right about howard.
i’m on the fence re: Dunn v. Tex. You’re probably right about Braun, but I hate that guy, so it’s tough.
"Did you just grow a mustache?"
"While SPINNING."
No prince love?
I think he is still in his improvement stage and is more or less a toss-up with Howard. Plus (and I am probably overthinking this) with A-Rod and Braun being such no-brainers, you might be able to profit as not many other people will pick Teix and Prince to avoid having 2 guys on the same team.
i thought about granderson
but i’m afraid they might platoon him too much.
also, am I crazy for picking ian kinsler to hit more HRs than A-Rod?
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
Yes.
A-Rod hit 30 homers in 125 games last year. Kinsler hit 31 in 145 with the highest FB% and HR/FB% of his career.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
hmm i thought as much
i just think a-rod’s a health risk and kinsler is reaching the prime of his career
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
good point.
so who between a-rod, kinsler, ethier, uggla, utley, granderson?
guess it should probably be a-rod.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
I agree. And I don't think it's really close.
But I may be biased – I live in NYC and like him a lot.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
can't stand a-rod
but i’d still pick him easily from that list
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
A-Rod's pretty likely to get around 40 is he's healthy, he's way ahead here.
I’d say Utley’s probably a good 2nd choice as he’s a fair bet to get around 30 in a healthy year, probably alongside uggla. Ethier, Kinsler and Grandy have all only done it once, all last year. I don’t think Grandy or Kinsler are good bets at all to do it again this year; last season represents a high-watermark for their power, I think. There’s a pretty good chance Ethier will be somewhere around 30 again this year, though, IMHO.
So you’ve got one 40-HR hitter in a healthy year, and a bunch of guys who probably don’t have the ability to get much beyond 30 in any given year.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Votto is the best option out of the lot
if he’s healthy I’d say he’s basically a lock to top 30 this year…
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
(a lock = wild exaggeration)
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
To me it comes down to ball parks
Dodger Stadium and Safeco Field are both homerun oppressing field. While Great American Ball park is 15 to 20% increase in HR’s.
Jay Bruce in a no brainer out of the 3
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, someone that is new to the White Sox
Not sure of their team though
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
with a better ball park
You get much better probability of luck
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well any good projection system will account for that,
And most of them peg the two about equal. I’d be worried about Bruce’s playing time, especially if he continues to hit .210 vs. lefties with the amount of outfielders that team has.
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
where can I get player projections?
i’ve been trying to find this. i’m bad at the internets.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
FanGraphs is probably the best/easiest:
Fan (amalgamation of fan votes)
ZiPS
CHONE
I’d stay away from Marcel for this purpose though – its just a weighted average of past performance
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
i was actually thinking Holliday
if i wasn’t worried about his health.
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
i think razzums and luddy might hit more dingers than holliday
garrett jones (i think that’s his name, from pitt) could be a sleeper.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Luddy is going to have a career year, methinks.
Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.
Busch Stadium is a bad place for home runs though
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, but razzums can hit it out anywhere
luddy has already hit, what 38, and we have some nice parks in our division for dingers.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think Jones will stink this year
well, maybe not quite stink, but I think his homer pace last year was a mirage.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
i'm a bit biased
he’s just one of those guys i root for, for various reasons.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
oh yeah, he isn't on the list
didn’t see that. I think Matty Holls’ll probably hit about 30 this year, late 20s at least. I just think I like Votto to go that little bit further.
Bruce looks a fair bet as well, given he only had 300-some ABs last year, but I guess he’s more of a risk.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
bruce
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I hope Bruce
picked him up on my fantasy team…and I hate having inner divisional players on my team…
Bird is the word.
i've always like the guy
could be wrong as usual, but i think he’s a star
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
what I like about him is that
He plays at U.S. Cellular Field(20% above average), high % of his hits are fly balls, and actually had somewhat of a done year compared to his career numbers in regard to HF/FB
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
carlos quentin, then
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Get on the Votto bandwagon
And stay away from the Adam Lind one
I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot
i wouldn't pick him though
I would stay away from players that had higher than a 10HR jump from the previous year
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
well if i'm going for consistency
holliday is probably a really good choice
"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR
not really
He hits like 25 HR’s a year and is moving to a HR resistant park
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 23, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm totally on the Votto bandwagon
I think I have him in both of my leagues so far
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Had Votto on a couple fantasy teams last year
I’m not a fan after that. He’s a bit of a headcase. He missed numerous games last year because of depression. If you’re going to gamble on an injury risk go with Quentin or Josh Hamilton.
"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."
His father died very suddenly
He was struggling with depression, but it was the shock of his father passing that caused the breakdown. You can read about it here. I’m sure the mysterious, scary bouts of dizziness didn’t help his anxiety issues.
Also, I’m not sure “headcase” is really the most PC way to describe someone suffering from depression and debilitating anxiety.
dude, he had a .981 OPS last season
holy fuck, I can deal with a few games off if he does that. this will be just his third full season in the majors, look at this career: nearly .400 wOBA, .924 OPS, .226 ISO, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he has well over 30 HR this year
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
me either
dude can rake. I’d actually say he’s the 2nd best first baseman in a division full of all-stars at that position…
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
in a non-statitical-debate sort of way
i like votto more than tex.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Yeah, Sheriff has to win
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
It is currently winning.
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I love Yadi.
if I ever found a street gang, I would ask for him
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Just reaffirms what I have long known.
There is no one more adorable than Yadier. No one.
by peach concrete on Mar 23, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
true
but he had several lines to exemplify it
carp’s inflection was all over the place in a matter of two words
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Mar 23, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think it's always Adam's turn.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Matt Holliday ones are kinda....
melodramatic….I get it, we signed Matt Holliday for ALOT of money, I’m grateful. Quit shoving it in my face
/rant
Bird is the word.
Yeah, that was annoying
I say: moar funny, less reminding the fanbase that we can spend money.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
that's my one complaint with that agency
they think the Cardinals are all teh dramaz, as the kids say. I’d say the fanbase would react better to nostalgic and/or low-key.
I bet they’re behind the pirate music, too.
Halski does take some cool pictures, though.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
the baseball card one is cool and protection is all right
but “my hometown” is pretty meh
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
by prophetjohn on Mar 24, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel we are owed some pie.
where is my pie!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
The ones that aren't supposed to be funny are just lame.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 24, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
LET'S GO!
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 25, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
what I was thinking
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 26, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions
HR Geiger
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
that must be some kind of pen
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
its a cool story
That's baseball, and it's my game. Y' know, you take your worries to the game, and you leave 'em there. You yell like crazy for your guys. It's good for your lungs, gives you a lift, and nobody calls the cops. Pretty girls, lots of 'em. ~Humphrey Bogart
So, VEB popularity opinion...
What would your starting lineup be now that we are close to season opener?
C – Yadier Molina
1B – Albert Pujols
2B – Skip Schumaker
3B – Joe Mather
SS – Brendan Ryan
LF – Matthew Holliday
CF – Colby Rasmus
RF – Ryan Ludwick
Bench:
Felipe ‘Flip’ Lopez
Julio Lugo
Allen Craig
Jason LaRue
I leave off this list Stavinoha and Freese because I don’t think they’re as talented as Craig and Mather. As I’m sure, alot of people would like Ottavino and Garcia make the team as well.
Bird is the word.
Freese will be on the team starting at third base for the season opener I'd think
otherwise, that’s what I would write for the lineup, what you have there
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
hopefully we won't have that problem
I’m gonna go with “the bullpen”
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
nobody, hopefully
Odds-on if it’s anyone, it’s either Gotay or Lugo.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
although I wonder...
has Mather played 3B more than one game in ST, or at all?
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, cool...
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2009/3/31/816901/not-a-rookie-joe-mather
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
VEP apparently thought Mather was better than Rasmus
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
...in DAR?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm... Jayson Werth is actually probably a really good comp for Mather
Best case scenario, anyways. Big, big guy, late bloomer
Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'
I want Bombs at third.
if not for that wrist, he probably would be.
imagine if we hadn’t needed DeRosa… and we still had… man.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
we'll soon find out how much that trade hurt
since Perez is now a closer
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
But since it is with the Indians I don't know how well you can actually judge.
I am getting less and less excited about the Indians season as it gets closer.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 23, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
why is that?
you saying he is going to get a ton of inherited runners? aren’t there stats that bypass that?
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Because I just don't see it going well.
My Indians fan pessimism is setting in. Move along, nothing to see here.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 23, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they have a slight chance to do well
if Branyon doesn’t get hurt and Sizemore bounces back. Choo is great, don’t know about their starting pitching though.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Russell Branyan has a herniated disc already.
They haven’t made a decision but it doesn’t look good. I think a Sizemore bounce back is almost a guarantee since last year was clearly all injury. Their starting pitching is the question. Carmona had a great start the other day. Westbrook has been very good so far and so has Masterson but beyond that I don’t know. And none of those things really matter since it’s only ST.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 23, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
dang, that sux about Branyon
he was about their only chance if he had a year like last year.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
sorry
I mixed a baseball player and a land formation
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved my trip to the Grand Canyan
You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?
by jd is legend on Mar 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
you saw a giant Russell Branyan statue in the Grand Canyon?
btw, if you haven’t been there, it’s probably the coolest thing in the united states.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The coolest thing in the United States
other than Freedom!
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
FUCK YEAH
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Mar 24, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
and snuggies?
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
their only chance is pronk being apu
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I don't think this is true.
I think their offense is pretty darn good. Their pitching is… not.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 24, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
i was just messing with chitown for saying
branyan was their only chance, because that’s basically saying they have no chance, which i would agree with.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i've always relied on the kindness of strangers
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
"Russell" Branyan?
Russell… now that’s a name I’ve not heard in a looong time… a long time.
Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.
russell sprouts
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
probably russ springer's name too
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
don't know why a closer would inherit a lot of runners
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
What do you say about the Cardinals over at
LGT!?
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 24, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
That Boog's mustache commercial is the best.
They don’t talk about the Cardinals much.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 24, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
They're jealous
"There's a new sheriff in town." - Brendan Ryan
by jd is legend on Mar 24, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I don't think we talk about the Indians much
except when you bring them up. I guess my point is, for the most part, people on here are fairly tolerant of other people’s foibles (read: other teams they root for); unless, of course, it’s one of the hated four (Cubs, Mets, Red Sox or Yankees). I was just wondering how they feel about your cheering for the Cards, as well.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 24, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I did not bring them up this time though.
We talk about them some because of trades we’ve made with the Indians and wishing we still had those players.
They don’t care that much that I also cheer for the Cardinals from what I can tell. They hate the best fans in baseball thing, I know that. They tend to think it’s pretty easy to be a Cardinals fan as compared to an Indians fan. But there are a lot of people from St. Louis/Missouri over there.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you guys could have about the worst starting rotation in baseball next year.
pretty tough to be competitive in that scenario.
I guess San Diego and a Zimmermann-less Washington might be worse. But there’s not a lot in it…
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
It has the potential to be an absolute train wreck.
Or it could be brilliant. I know that’s what everyone says about everything in baseball but I really feel like it could go either way. Right now it appears to actually be right in the middle. If everyone continues their ST performances it could be better.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 24, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
really, how many wrist injuries can a man stew take?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I like that comparison
seems pretty apt
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess it's possible
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
he was talking about offensively
and said probably. the werth comparison i think appropriate, as i’ve probably reiterated too many times. that’s a nice ceiling that not too many guys have. at this moment though, allen craig, if not for the cf situation, is above him on my board because he’s earned it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
werth would've loved to have mather's ceiling
at one point in time.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i dunno, what this means
but if it’s a refutation of my point, let’s just use numbers
joe mather’s ceiling is 4 WAR
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
what makes you think that?
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
watching him play
he’s a good to great defender with a power bat and average on-base skills. 4 WAR
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i mean
you guys really think he’s got a 5-5.5 WAR ceiling?
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i don't know where you plucked that number
i’d take it, but it is not my point. my point is that werth was on the scrap heap, having been given up on by his own org due to WRIST PROBLEMS. bombs is ahead of him in that he’s never been given up on by the cards – never. they knew a little more about his progress with the wrist than the general public and were actually counting on him this year. so i’m just saying, at this point he is ahead of werth in those things, and they are quite similar talents, if you believe some people.
i don’t know what werth’s WAR was, but i’m sure you would have never predicted it when philly first picked him up, which is about where bombs is right now.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i can't find it now
but i swear i saw someone say that jayson werth was mather’s ceiling and i assumed that’s what you were talking about. yeah, they’re similar cases. i just don’t see mather having a year like werth’s last two
4.7 and 5.4
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
oh yeah, it was you
right up there
werth and mather might take similar paths to the majors, but that’s not what ceiling means
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
i have always compared the two
i understand what ceiling means, and i’d say bombs has a higher ceiling (in some eyes – werth) attributed to him than werth had when the phils got him (werth as we know him now was not werth-back-then’s ceiling). so you never know.
that said, i think allen craig is a really good hitter.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
I think "ceiling" has to be kinda realistic
as in, 10% or so chance of hitting it. When Werth was hurt in the high minors there was probably a <1% chance of him turning into the player he is now.
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by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
i agree with that
what percentage would you put on bombs?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
At this point
His ceiling is probably his 2008 MLE line of .260/.340/.500 as probably a +5 defender in a corner which is about a 4ish Wins.
Not afraid to nitpick
he is a multi-talented fellow
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=mather001jos
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
this is super freakin weird
but my nephew is almost the exact same age as Mather. I think he is going to be really good btw.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
your nephew's really good?
how tall is he?
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I worded that confusingly
I meant that I’ve always thought that Mather is going to be really good. btw, Mather is the opposite of the anyone can play 2B meme, Mather can play anything but 2B
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
just messin' with ya
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I can just picture Boog constantly talking to him
Carp would luggage them constantly
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
...constantly.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I love this lineup.
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 23, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I Have Same, Except...
…I have Freese in at 3rd, Mather on the bench, and Lugo gone.
Big McLargehuge!
:=8O
if Lugo is gone
who is going to glare at Boog?
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
who will make Albert happy?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Lopez is his buddy supposedly
and I thought Holliday was Albert’s Christmas present.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I do not think Albert thinks that's the reason for the season.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 23, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
this is true
but it’s a nice bonus
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm still waiting for Holliday to actually break one of Boog's ribs...
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
ewh
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
those chest bumps can't be safe
unless Boog is actually made of plastic
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
he's like mr. fantastic
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I would be down with this nickname.
he even has the white hair
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i thought you meant a collision on a dink to left
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
they're saying Whitey's on tv right now
kmov
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
there is a super awesome ice cream chain called Whitey's in the Quad Cities
if anyone ever goes there to see a River Bandits game, make sure to go to Whitey’s and Frank’s Pizza. (btw, Whitey’s is a hilarious name for chain store, I used to work there as a teen btw)
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 23, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The QCA
has all sorts of great local food franchises in addition to Whitey’s and Frank’s, like Rudy’s Tacos, Happy Joe’s Pizza, Hungry Hobo, and the greatest of them all, Harris Pizza.
In all my travels, I’ve never found an area with so many different local chains that are so good.
by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 24, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just naming my favorite two
I just like Frank’s better than Harris’ out of nostalgia, since my dad took us there often. they are nearly identical though. I love Happy Joe’s taco pizza, they have the best taco sauce too. Rudy’s is good, but a little bit too Americanized for Mexican food (Chicago spoiled me in that dept). the name Hungry Hobo for a restaurant always cracked me up.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
wow, and wow i'm getting mlb video again
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Jo-El is okay
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
maybe we've got it all wrong
Jo-El gets a shiner… maybe he’s scared…
haha, he sure wasn’t scared of Fielder and Braun.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
OT?: Our boy Kelvin Jimenez plays...
… in Korea.
He signed with the Doosan Bears of the Korean professional baseball league, as a starter. I still can’t believe this, but he is being used like a starter in spring training. In his last outing, he pitched 6 innings and allowed 3 runs(2 er). His manager says that he will be their opening day starter. Ouch!
Now you guys know why I’ve been following the Cardinals for a decade rather than the domestic baseball league…
Cardinals fan from Korea
wow.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
" . . . buy me some kimchi and cracker jack . . ."
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
by tom s. on Mar 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
nice
or “buy me some kimchi and bulgoki”
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
well
you get both of those at the Korean bbq place I go to! delicious. I love the sesame oil and salt dip for the meat.
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmm.
Babimbap.
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 24, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions
again i say
wow
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
he won't ever be facing choi in this lifetime, right comrade?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
he will.
Choi plays for another team so they’ll face each other many times. Please remember Jimenez is a starter here…
Cardinals fan from Korea
but i thought choi was...
…umm…taken care of?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
oh. point taken
you mean I have a mission, right?
I didn’t forget it. Still seeking a chance to do it…
Cardinals fan from Korea
fair enough
but your child comes first. that is understood.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
My baby
He was born in January and is 10 weeks old now. Thank you for remembering it. :)
He is too young and still needs me. Please give me some more time.
Cardinals fan from Korea
congrats
hope you raise him properly (cardinals fan)
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
Congratulations!
And how did I miss a visit from our Korean friend? So sad.
Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥
...
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/remember-choi/
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
and the very first commenter brings up scotty
this is why our korean comrade is gonna take care of choi
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
long live Cardinal Nation
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
may it prosper
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
in happier links...
Boog gets wise.
thanks for stalking, GoodStalker.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
someone on here the other day was having trouble
with the videos at mlb.com. Not sure if it got resolved or not, since i lost track of the thread, but FYI I’m having the same issue. Turns out it isn’t adblock at all, but flashblock that seems to be causing it.
Disabling flashblock when I visit mlb.com seems to fix it. Firefox says you have to restart it, but you don’t. Just disable, reload mlb.com, watch the video, then re-enable flashblock and go on with your web surfing.
Also, boo frontier airlines. I’m supposed to be landing in west palm beach right now, and instead I’m reading VEB at home in LA.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers
ironically i had the opposite problem
I left my flash block on but turned off my adblock
by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
the universe is totally wacky
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/culturelab/2010/03/the-universe-is-a-quantum-computer.php
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 1:22 AM EDT reply actions
ok
Allen Craig > Nick Stavinoha
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 24, 2010 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
He's interested in situational hitting and probabilities.
Those are fine topics that are separate from sabermetrics.
You can read it in any tone you like.
i think it qualifies as sabermetrics
at least enough that there’s no need to draw the distinction
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
Well, what you are thinking about is macro-sabermtrics
How good is this player on defense? How valuable is the average single? How does performance translate into salary? What’s the best way to estimate a pitcher’s defensive independent RA?
A lot of the stuff that I, and others do, with Pitch f/x is trying to explore the more nuanced relationships that happen in baseball. How much more effective is a curveball down and away following a fastball up and in? When is it good to try to make contact with a ball vs. miss contact with a ball outside of the strikezone? What’s the best pitch to throw after a sinker? You get the point.
by vivaelpujols on Mar 24, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Really, sabermetrics is just about quantifying relationships in baseball
by vivaelpujols on Mar 24, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
His grandpa sounds like a badass
I wish he’d do a post on him
"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~
by YesWeOquendo on Mar 24, 2010 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions
one of these days I'll link it over in the game thread...
first booooooogs of the year
televised, anyway.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
I feel like some D before bedtime
Ichiro
Jack Wilson (number one on SC)
Alexei
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
gotta love ichiro
his little hop is going backward, unlike soriano, although sounds like the knee is preventing his hop right now.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
OT: Why must Steak n' Shake
make the Happy Hour at 2 in the morning… I need a half priced shake now damnit…
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson
USAToday story
on David Freese (not sure why their baseball page is still my home page).
"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson
by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 24, 2010 2:44 AM EDT reply actions
he hit three days a week with apu
not many get to do that.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
whoever it was yesterday
that mentioned xkcd should be punished. so….much…..time…..wasted;….sleep…….lost
"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."
interesting story with a happy ending
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
maybe this one will work...maybe not
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
looks like it did
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
you know that feeling before the Home Run Derby, when you were like, "Albert, it's a great honor but OMG don't swing!"?
That’s like this morning.
Albert back in the lineup vs. Orioles.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
[panic!]
link below
[fake blockquote]
So his start today is likely contingent on how he gets through the pre-game workouts. Pujols had an MRI and an anti-inflammatory shot on Monday to address the trouble in the back that has limited his appearances this spring.
Twice he has missed games with soreness or discomfort in the back. Before one game, he described a difficulty bending down into his position at first base. Groundballs were tricky.
The Cardinals described Pujols as "day to day" after he received the shot Monday. The idea was that he could be ready for today’s game against Baltimore, but both manager Tony La Russa and general manager John Mozeliak preached caution. Both also said that Pujols’ back issue did not appear, right now, like something that would bleed into the regular season as an issue.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
i hope albert's been relieved of diaper duty
it’s all that bending over that does it.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
maybe the mattress sucks
didn’t we have someone with back problems after a bad hotel mattress?
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I threw my back out after sleeping on a time-share condo mattress.
But I don’t think I ever shared that story here.
You can read it in any tone you like.
sorry to hear that
I mean a player scratched from a reg. season game.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
lineup
1. Julio Lugo, 2B
2. Brendan Ryan, SS
3. Albert Pujols, 1B
4. Matt Holliday, LF
5. Ryan Ludwick, RF
6. Yadier Molina, C
7. David Freese, 3B
8. Joe Mather, CF
9. Rich Hill, P
Listed in the bullpen are: LHP Trever Miller, LHP Dennys Reyes; and all of the righties — Adam Ottavino, Kyle McClellan, Ryan Franklin, Mitchell Boggs, Jason Motte, Blake Hawksworth.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
AKA the "Joe Mather if you can halfass play CF while playing righthanded you make the roster" game
Not afraid to nitpick
yup, it's against a lefty starter
hence the glaring omissions.
and hey, Mather has a lot of time in CF.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
UNACCEPTABLE
WHY DOES TONY HATE COLBY!!!! THEY’RE GOING TO TRY AND MAKE HIM THROW TWO SEAM FASTBALLS WHEN HE SHOULD BE THROWING UP IN THE ZONE!!!
Think; It's not illegal yet.
by azruavatar on Mar 24, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, the game is on MLB.tv today
and those without MLB.tv outside of the St. Louis area can at least watch Phillies/Braves on ESPN.
we on FSM today
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
so are you saying
That today’s game is for sure on FSM?
by QuadCitiesCardsFan on Mar 24, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Fox Sports Midwest and SportsSouth to be exact
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
hopefully not 1.5 backs
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
if you and your significant other make the beast with 1.5 backs, you're doin it wrong.
"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."
is this lugo's first game back?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
lugo got back
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
kmac will follow hill, right - isn't this a split start?
and to joker, i think mather is a little better than halfassed in cf.
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
10:30 Central presser!
I’m trying to figure out who’s covering it.
meanwhile Kurkjian is doing the morning report on The Panic.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
it's a Pujols presser
no one has said.
I’m multitasking right now, so my twitter reloads are slowing up.
(meanwhile Timmeh cites inconsequential playing-through-injury examples to say “don’t worry about Albert.” he’s like the anti-buster.)
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
oh wait, I can't tell if Goold is joking or not
maybe it is for Got Milk.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
Must be that the Howard trade has finally gone through
I wonder if they can get him a uniform in time for tonight’s game?
RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!
by Felonius_Monk on Mar 24, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
if he's here and in uniform, he's in the lineup
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
are you talking your time?
this is a day game, right?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
hhh
The Mets are shopping outfielder Gary Matthews Jr.,
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
you think that's funny, somewhere DeRosa is crying into his pillow
The battle for the 5th spot is now down to Todd Wellemeyer and Kevin Pucetas, with the loser likely ticketed to be the team’s long man. Both are having excellent springs, but Wellemeyer has the edge because of his experience as a Major League starter.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
okay, this is the sauks
but this is totally how the Cards’ mid-2009 happened:
http://www.survivinggrady.com/2010/03/youk-talks-beard-with-his-teammates.html
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
HFS there's a post!
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
what's the presser about?
"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."
i'm cut off
it may actually be about milk.
Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT
by Yadi2Second on Mar 24, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
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