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Sign Ben Shee—Rich Har—John Smo—

Down goes another blog favorite, this time to plausible-deniability retirement and a career in broadcasting:

"Joining Turner Sports' Major League Baseball coverage is a great opportunity for me to stay immersed in the game that I love and I'm really looking forward to this experience. Having worked with TBS and Peachtree TV before, I am thrilled about the start of the 2010 season," said Smoltz.

But is he thrilled about the middle of the 2010 season, and the 2010 playoffs? His reluctance to actually announce his retirement—he handicapped his odds at 50:1 in another article—means that he's as much a mid-season option for the Cardinals (and various other worried teams) as he ever was, but while he talks up hunting and fishing and seeing his kids more often the blog-talk about him necessarily quiets down. 

That this happened the day after Jaime Garcia struck out seven in three innings and pushed himself back into the fifth starter discussion—or at least, as the field seemed to narrow to two, forced La Russa and Duncan to continue said discussion—makes it a neat turning point. The Cardinals have gone deep into March (past 3/14, when Kyle Lohse was signed two years ago) without bringing in another external option; they seem satisfied with both the quality and depth of their fifth starter pool. If it's first a vote of confidence for Kyle McClellan, the presumptive front-runner, it's also a vote in favor of Jaime Garcia pitching some share of contingency innings in 2010. 

Star-divide

With Smoltz gone, Sheets hammered, Harden the victim of some negative 140-character publicity, the free agent landscape looks generally post-apocalyptic. If you're John Mozeliak—more specifically, if I'm John Mozeliak—the remaining options look a little like this:

1. Call Pedro Martinez's agent, leave some voicemails. I can't answer any of the following questions: does Pedro have anything left? Has he retired? Is he still crazy? To be honest, I don't think the means to answer those questions are available for anyone but Pedro Martinez at this moment. He pitched pretty well in 2009, until the World Series; before that he was only intermittently available, let alone effective, for the Mets. Even if he hadn't briefly been arguably the best pitcher who ever lived, a pitcher who's struck out 8.4 and walked 2.8 per nine innings in the four years since he last pitched a full season would garner serious scrap-heap interest. 

Pedro Martinez combines that scrap-heap charm with having been, briefly, the best pitcher who ever lived. If you have some so-so options and want to paper over them with a guy who'll pitch 20 times, if you're lucky, this is it. 

2. Stand down and wait for things to look different in June. Nobody but Pedro Martinez is going to be significantly better than the options the Cardinals are already looking at. Braden Looper? Maybe in the bullpen, if Russ Springer doesn't fit the ROOGY bill. Jarrod Washburn

The pitchers who are left—it seems there are fewer veteran pitchers than hitters left waiting for jobs in this market, which has been death to middling veterans, maybe because the pitching equivalent of Jermaine Dye is on shoulder surgery number two—are not sure things. Smoltz wasn't a sure thing, either, but he represented the possibility of better things in the fifth starter role. The remaining free agents have low upsides and are coming off, in some cases, significant risk. The Cardinals already have one of these guys. 

The Cardinals may be thin at the back of the rotation, but what remains is mostly replacement level—better to see if Kyle McClellan (or Jaime Garcia, or Rich Hill, for that matter) is a plausible multi-year option in the rotation than counting on the difference between any of them and Braden Looper over 25 starts. If that turns out to be a problem, there are others. 

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by Tackle Box on Mar 18, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good Mooorning!

:=8)

And it is a good one! I will be taking half a day at work today and tomorrow so I can watch the Tourney!!!
GO NOVA!!!!

:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Illini to the sweet 16!!!! (NIT)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

When...

does Mizzou’s first round exit take place?

by mynameistyler on Mar 18, 2010 10:17 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Starts at 1;35 central time.

Although I’m not super confident about a first round exit. I think it’s kind of a toss-up.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 18, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fine when do the Tigers get eliminated :)

I do love watching same mascot matchups.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tigers get eliminated

on Sunday. They beat Clemson tomorrow.

by stlfan on Mar 18, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

missed the joke?

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey wait a second...

…isn’t it afternoon there? YOU CHEEKY BUGGAH!

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

the morning

it is good

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

i f'in hate mornings

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I usually do

but it’s been nice out lately

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm the biggest night owl evar, i hate getting up before noon

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do too

but I gotta go in and shuffle the papers and apply the payments

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not very good at it

but I love being up before noon—I feel like I have so much time when I do. when I get back to school this august my first order of business is waking up at the same time every morning.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

is it really that hard to get up before noon

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

you should join the military

they’ll teach you reeeeeal quick

by d-dee on Mar 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

you gdm should join the military

they’ll teach you him reeeeeal quick

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's why I never went into it

I have flat feet and asthma

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have problems with authority

and a bum knee

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

that too

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was when I was 19, 20

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 19, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Some of us have jobs.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

conformist...

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's that like?

gawd we are f’ing pathetic

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Where the Heck is Everyone??

Its 10:16 real time (eastern) and only 5 cowmments? Slackers!

:=8O

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 18, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm afraid comments from this side of the pond have been somewhat lacking of late

I’ve been on holiday and uber-busy at work…. I expect by now I’d usually have upwards of 20!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 18, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am on

the other side of the other pond, plus a few more, and a few moguls in the way too. Makes coordinating comments fun. This site is probably running across 13 time zones at least at the moment. Fortunately, I am enjoying my post St. Paddy’s evening pints while everyone is drinking their coffee, or in your case just about to hit the pub. Back to baseball, I see below talk about Craig not making the team, and Stavinoha. Think there is any chance for JJ?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if Mather doesn't make the team as backup CF/3B

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, Craig should make it over Stav

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is what I thought

but below the discussion is about his arm etc.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he hits so well he should make the team just as a pinch hitter

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad

that he starts his MLB career as a PH. I guess that is the problem, one hopes that the bat could go with a position. Spelling off AP now and then, except AP likes to play, doesn’t really work.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

convert him to second baseman!!!

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

They said

that below. I am trying to be serious here. In fact, AC really looks somewhat like Ben Wallace, best suited as a DH or 1B, so as mentioned below by MooCow, maybe ultimately trade bait, which may help us in the pen, or with a potential 5th starter.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's better at defense than Stavinoha so I don't see what the conversation is all about

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

better hitter/ better fielder.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

and a much better hitter. Stav is going to be a career minor leaguer

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he's

killing it right now. We should be looking to trade him. Hard.

by 643 on Mar 18, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade him for a bucket of baseballs and a case of beer

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or

a bucket of beer and a case of beer.

I’m not sayin’, I’m just sayin’.

by 643 on Mar 18, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I think Craig could stick in left-field and be above average eventually. Unfortunately, we don’t really have a spot for him there. I think, realistically, he might not be a Cardinal for much longer – I could see them using him as 4th OF/occasional 3B/1B this year and trading him in the winter, which I wouldn’t mind if it brought back something of substance.

FWIW, I’m guessing the bench players at the start of the year (assuming a healthy Boog) will be Lopez, Craig, Mather, Lugo and LaRue.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he can truly hit at the MLB level

then I think the team needs to look at holding onto him and maybe looking to deal Ludwick if he has a big year, since he’ll be due a good sized raise in arbitration.

They’d have to move Holliday to RF, and I’m not sure how he’d adjust to that, but I don’t think you trade a good bat that you might have a place for.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 19, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think you mean brett wallace

and i see no similarity body-type wise. i think craig has a good chance to replace luddy in rf, so why would we trade him?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone can play second base lol

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't

fully embrace Skippy’s miraculous conversion? Actually, I can’t think of a comparable change in another sport. Baseball is somewhat more position specific than hockey, basketball, football, soccer, etc, or actually unique., What would be the equivalent analogy in another sport? I can’t think of one. Only perhaps cricket, but I am not going there!

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has to be plenty of examples in football...

TEs becoming linebackers or vice versa..although the switch probably happens prior to professional careers really being established

I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot

by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought

of those, but to me it is somewhat more brawn than roving CF trying to run down a ball, then suddenly at 2B trying to dive to both sides and turn the DP. It actually seems to be a completely different skill set. But your comparison was also the closest that I could think of.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hester going from kick returner to receiver...

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

it will be interesting to see Skip's UZR numbers for this season

I think he will do well, I think it is impressive (unless he somehow does worse than he did last year this season, which is doubtful). I just hope that we’d be able to do that with Craig because I think he’ll be an impressive hitter, and Skip will become more expensive if he does well

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't

believe that you are seriously suggesting this. I understand that TLR only had this brainstorm because SS is a consummate athlete, with speed, the proverbial great dedication, etc. But what you are suggesting conjures images of Dick “Dr. Strangeglove” Stuart, or Marv Throneberry of the expansion Mets playing 2B. I don’t know if you remember them, but this is definitely the plot of a C grade horror movie.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, at least Craig has played the infield before

so it’s not as much of a stretch as the Skip conversion. I could be way off base though, heh. Skip’s more athletic than Craig, at least defensively I’d think

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

well,

Craig is not Skip. Different athletes. Like I said, baseball (perhaps barring the OF) seems to be such a position specific game. Craig’s 3B or 1B does not translate into 2B or SS m(ay the GOB forbid!). That is why guys like Lopez were alluring to us, being able to play everywhere, especially at what I think turned out to be a home town discount. I am so happy that SF is paying DeRosa $5m with his sore wrist, and we get Floppy for $1 plus incentives. Great work by Mo in my view.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

that’s why I hate it when TLR plays people out of position (such as Lugo or Miles in the outfield, etc)

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right

But was it only Miles, or Kennedy as well when he was trying to get him more AB that last season? I read today in SPD that Lopez and Lugo my both get work in CF to test them. Scary. Oh well, my case of Hiimalyan Brewery Tuborg (under license) is empty, so time to go retire and read your today’s ST game result tomorrow.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way Craig makes it as a 2B

he’s pretty big and he was moved off 3B, which is an easier position for a big guy to play, because they thought he couldn’t hack it there. No way he moves to the keystone.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got moved off of 3rd

because he has a noodle arm. He had very good range over there — I could see him playing second base. He’s got the athletic skills to do so.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 19, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, he seems like he could do it to me

gotta put him somewhere if he can hit MLB pitching

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I disagree

from everything I’ve heard he had below-average range at 3B, and 3B (again, IMO) is a position that requires more arm and less range than 2B. I think he could play 2B, but he’d be very bad at it.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 22, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

fine

put Pujols at second and Craig at first

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't think of a similar in any other sport

to ank (p to hitter) or pena (hitter to p). if anyone knows of anything approximating that, i’m curious.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Jones, Kordell Stewart, Antwan Randle-el

QBs to WRs (and in Stewart’s case, back to QB)

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

to me, that's not even close

with the baseball conversions involving pitchers, it may as well be another sport.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay then

What about Antonio Gates? He literally DID switch sports

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't count

there’s been so many 2-sport guys – dave debuschere (i’m sure i spelled that wrong), danny ainge, d. sanders, brian jordan, etc. etc…bob gibson…

this has to be a switch of position within the same sport.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

not cricket.

fielders are generally much more positionally flexible than they are in baseball.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone's sleeping off St. Pat's

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

SIGN JAIME GARC--

Oh, right.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 18, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions  

the more i think about it, the more i think he should be the 5th starter

i mean, whats the worst that can happen? if he can’t handle it, we send him down to memphis. (maybe with arbitration rules and stuff its more complicated, i don’t know) but he’s infinitely better than mcclellan. and i just haven’t been impressed with hill. it has to be jaime, right?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's not whether he can handle it

it’s whether his surgically repaired arm can handle it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

well yeah.

i still want him up here.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

the thing about Jaime

is I want him in there for years to come

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pitching in St Louis

or pitching in Memphis – i’d think the strain on the arm is about the same.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Post all star break

is when I’d rather see Garcia. Let him start in Memphis under a tight innings/pitch count watch, then bring him up for the stretch run.

by ubeddie on Mar 18, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thought

especially given the subject of the day

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, why would we take ANY chance

with one of our elite prospects when all we’re talking about right now is the 5th spot in an excellent rotation that we have other options for. as you said, we need him for years to come, and we’re not exactly in a dogfight of a pennant race the first month or two.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't buy the argument that keeping him in the minors is 'safe'

How many pitchers get hurt in the minors? If he is MLB ready, he should be in the MLB. He can get hurt just as easy in AAA as here. As a 5th starter you can pull him a bit early and skip him from time to time. Workload should not be an issue.

by DriverZn on Mar 18, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He probably shouldn't top 150 innings

That is certainly an issue if you want him to get 30 starts.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, especially because we can skip him in the rotation if there is an off day.

i agree with this. if he’s ready to pitch and can pitch well, he should be up here. MLB careers – especially pitching careers – are short and fragile.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Most 5th starters are terrible/hurt and that's why they don't get 150 innings

Hopefully Garcia isn’t terrible and if he starts in the big leagues he’d get 30ish starts with health. I really don’t want 6 or 8 <4 inning outings which is what it would take to limit him to 150 innings.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's not necessarily true

Most 5th starters are going to miss a few turns in the rotation here and there, so even a really good one should only expect to get 25-26 starts realistically.

In 2004 we had four starters make 30 starts and Carp would have if he hadn’t been hurt down the stretch. I think that only 3 or 4 clubs in the last 30 years have had 4 starters make 30+ starts in one season. It’s a really tough thing to do.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right but I'm saying without injury or any of that to Garcia

And if/when any of the top 4 get hurt, then Garcia is no longer the skippable 5th starter.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, I see what you mean

You’d like to be able to count on him for 30 starts if you’re going to start him on the roster.

Makes sense, and I agree.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because that would be 110 more innings

than the’s thrown in the past two years? That’s a pretty heavy workload for a guy coming off of an injury who doesn’t have any MLB experience.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know what you're talking about, sir, he has nineteen whole innings of MLB experience

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"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

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by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought it was 18 (with one start), in 2008?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I could have sworn it was 19

but BR says it was only 16

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't know Garcia's middle name was Omar

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty awesome middle name

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

even if workload's not an issue for Garcia, theoretically

it is most certainly an issue for our bullpen. with these guys, I don’t think we can afford to fudge around, even with the fifth starter. that’s the difference between a rested bullpen and a blown (post)season.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you tell

from 25 ST innings if he’s MLB ready? I don’t care if Dave Duncan is a genius or not, there’s simply no way to tell if his arm is sound in 25 innings. Period.

Keeping him in the minors allows the club to rest him if he has soreness, limit his pitches in his next start, keep him out starts and slow his recovery if he encounters problems. You can’t do any of those things at the MLB level. If it’s been decided that he isn’t a bullpen candidate, then he needs to start the season at Memphis, unless they feel that McClellan is more needed in the bullpen, which is an acceptable argument.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He pitched last year and this year.

Its not like he just healed in the off season. He had innings last year also. If a pitcher pitches at the end of a season, has a normal off season, then has a normal spring, I will call that ready.

Garcia is not that young any more. He should not be wasting more time to ‘protect’ him.

by DriverZn on Mar 18, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I was kinda surprised they didn't just give him the 5th starter job

Larussa is always super concerned with MLB playing time, but eventually he will have to start pitching in the majors, and either float or sink. just because Ankiel seemed rushed doesn’t mean that everyone isn’t going to be able to handle it.

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He threw 8 starts and 37 innings

that’s less than 5 innings a start. Only four of those starts were at Memphis where he had 21 innings, just over 5 innings a start.

And he’s just supposed to be ready? Most major league pitchers with experience take about 18-24 months to feel right after surgery, and we’re just expecting this kid to go out and throw 150+ innings as our fifth starter after throwing 37 innings in the minors and another 20 this spring? That’s pushing it, and THERE’S NO NEED TO DO SO.

You’ve yet to refute why we should just scrap K-Mac as a 5th starter, a position in which he could be very valuable, much more valuable than in the bullpen. Garcia faltering as the 5th starter complicates things much more for the team than K-Mac faltering as the 5th starter.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The reason is KMac has never been a good reliever.

If you look at the numbers he has been very lucky. He has never had a good K rate, and doesn’t have a good BB rate. I just cannot see him surviving as a starter. I don’t see taking an average reliever and making them a starter and expecting good results.

The recovery time for TJ surgery is all over the place. Some people have come back very quickly while others take a lot more time. I just don’t see the need to start him in the minors just because he had the procedure. If he wins the job, then it should be his.

by DriverZn on Mar 18, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Neither did Danny Haren.....

and look how he turned out. I think that you need to trust Dave Duncan on this one — he clearly sees something in Mac and I think he should be allowed to play his hunch, because, well, that’s what we pay him for. If it doesn’t work out he can always go BACK to the bullpen.

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by fourstick on Mar 19, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

You'd burn one of his options if he struggles

and that would be kinda stupid since he’s less than 18 months removed from Tommy John surgery and hasn’t thrown deep into ballgames much since he’s been back. Better to let him start in Memphis, where they can ramp up his innings gradually, than put him in the 5th starter role, where:

  1. We’ll risk the injury of ramping up his pitches per start quickly and have him get hurt again, OR
  2. We’ll have him throwing 4 and 5 inning starts and burning up our already fragile bullpen.

K-Mac has pitched well both of the last two springs, and deserves a shot at the role to start the season. If he fails, he can always go back to the bullpen and the team can bring Garcia up in June. We’re talking 8-10 starts by the 5th Starter over that period, they aren’t going to make or break our season as long as the other four starters are healthy.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess the counter to that. . .

and I’ve made this argument before, is that if Garcia’s mechanics are so bad that his arm is the pitching equivalent of a ticking time bomb that no amount of babying or coaching is going to protect in the long-term, you might as well have those productive innings be major league innings rather than minor league innings.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 18, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

+1

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not that his arm is a ticking time bomb

It’s that you can give him 3 inning starts at Memphis to build up his stamina to 4, 5, and 6 innings over a two month period. He can get back into the flow of pitching every 5th day. You simply can’t do that at the major league level. He’s going to be expected to get to at least the 5th inning and throw in the neighborhood of 100 pitches each time out. I don’t think it’s smart to put that much stress on a guy who’s still within 18 months of major ligament replacement surgery.

Let him start in the minors and build back up. Why burn an option on him to make 5 starts, struggle, tax a bullpen that is already weak, and then have to move K-Mac into the rotation from the bullpen if he falters? How does that make any sense?

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

couldn't Hawk just pitch when Garcia starts for the first couple months of the season?

pitch Garcia 4 or 5 innings then give Hawksworth 2 innings

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is not a good solution

i’m all in with fourstick on this one.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

But what's the point of that?

Jaime Garcia /= Roger Clemens.

Why would we blow up our roster to accommodate him when we could go with McClellan, who’s also pitched well this spring btw, and not have to do any of that? I mean, what’s the point? Garcia probably isn’t a better option than McClellan right now because he’s returning from injury and he hasn’t pitched but ~35 innings in almost TWO YEARS.

Remember, Anthony Reyes blew everyone away in Spring Training ‘06 and then proceeded to get shelled for four solid months during the regular season. Hitters are working on things in ST too, and Garcia hasn’t even started a game yet this spring.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

What difference does that make?

So Garcia fits the Dave Duncan mold better, so we should stagger our entire pitching staff to accommodate him being the fifth starter?

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was a joke.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still think that Garcia is better than McClellan

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Talent wise, maybe

Health wise, they aren’t close at this point.

Also, Mac has been pretty good in two full seasons in the big leagues out of the bullpen. He’s had a good spring as well. I don’t know why we discount the fact that he’s been an above average reliever for two years for a guy who’s pitched 40 innings or so in those two years based only off of that pitcher’s 20 odd innings in ST, and none of those included a start.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

in my mind

I just don’t see McClellan as anything more than a bullpen guy, but I could be wrong I guess

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two things to remember....

1. Duncan’s been wanting to turn McClellan into a starter since he first saw him in spring training two years ago. He hasn’t be able to because McClellan was too valuable for the bullpen. Boggs’ performance in the bullpen last season has allowed Duncan to go ahead and do what he wants with McClellan. Considering that the Looper conversion was more to do with finding a warm body for the rotation than any longterm view, I think it’s worth giving McClellan the shot if Duncan’s been talking about it for two seasons now. He has more of a starter’s batch of pitches than a reliever’s (no real out pitch, but four solid pitches he can mix).

2. Penny’s signed to a one-year deal, and he probably won’t be back whether he succeeds or not. That opens up another spot in the rotation IF McClellan succeeds as a fifth starter, and I’d rather Garcia come in for that one after he’s spent a season building back his innings and strengthing his arm. Considering that Garcia is about the only starter in the system who’s close to making the rotation the next two seasons (Lynn’s probably three years off from a full-time job), I really don’t want him overextended this season, risking injury and forcing the Cardinals to go the trash heap again for a warm body.

by Forsch31 on Mar 18, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with everything you said except

why is lynn three years away?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This coming season will be his first full season at the Triple A level. Next season, he’ll probably be in a depth starter role that Garcia will have this season and that Boggs had last year. The following season will be his first real chance at the St. Louis rotation. Thus, three years away from a full-time starter’s job.

By three years, I didn’t mean he’ll be spending three more years in the system. I meant two years in the system, then a shot in the third year.

by Forsch31 on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

With a solid season this year

He should be competing for a job next season though. He pitched pretty much a full year at AA last season (22 starts), then was promoted to AAA at the end of the year and got one start there. He’ll start 2010 at AAA. If he’s effective in his starts there, he’ll be on the short list for injury replacement should one happen and should be a candidate for the rotation next season — if he doesn’t make it, he should be looked at as a bullpen arm next year similar to Waino in 2006.

Like I said, if it takes him three years to be competitive for a spot, it means he got blown up at the AAA level or he got hurt. Garcia got hurt, or he would have been the fifth starter last season when Wellemeyer started to stink it up. He’s not a high school kid and was drafted as a college senior. If he’s 3 years away that would make him 26 before making his debut. I think he’s got better talent than that.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He seems to be forgetting

that Garcia only had about half a season in AAA before (dominating for the most part) before getting his shot. Most of that was due to injuries at the big league level, but if he hadn’t gotten hurt, he’s definitely a factor in the rotation last year. In fact, the team might have let Welley or Lohse walk had he been healthy. Unlikely, but not impossible.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they'd let welley walk

chitown would have picked him up.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have borrowed my brother's van and given him a lift

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would take one year of wellemeyer stinking it up

over four years and forty million dollars-worth of Lohse.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Lohse makes you eat those words this year ;)

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 22, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree with everything here except Lynn

He should be fighting for a job in spring training next season. If not that means he either got lit up at AAA and is no longer our top pitching prospect close to the majors or he’s hurt. I hope neither of those things happens.

Did you maybe mean Shelby Miller? If so I would agree that he’s three years away most likely.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burning an option

if he doesn’t stay on the 25 man all season.

by ubeddie on Mar 18, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

which he wouldn't

if he started the season in the rotation and then struggled. They’d have to ship him back to the minors as he’s not really a bullpen candidate.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

I’ve never been one who is too big about worrying about the options. I believe he has two option years left after having his contract purchased in late 2008…if in two years he’s not as good as the last pitcher on the roster, it wouldn’t be a big deal to lose him.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

99.9% chance one of his options

is used this year. Not trying to say that is a reason to keep him, just saying that IMO the use of an option is a non-starter in the “how to use Garcia” argument.

by ubeddie on Mar 18, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

And it just doesn’t really matter anyway. We shouldn’t be too concerned with the issue of him being bad enough to be put on waivers in the 2012 season.

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by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's true

We shouldn’t be using him specifically to deter using one of his options, but that’s just another reason NOT to have him start in St. Louis to start the year.

The best reason, imo, is that he’s thrown around 75 innings in 18 months. No reason to stick him in the rotation and expect him to throw twice that amount over a full season unless it’s absolutely necessary. Keep in mind, this kid was our best pitching prospect just 2 years ago, and nobody else was in the conversation. He could be a good low cost option for the rotation for the next 5 years. Why take the chance of burning him up for the upside of 10 starts from a 5th starter? Is that going to make or break our season by June? Probably not. Are those 10 starts in August and September going to be more important? Hell yes. So save him for the second half.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely agree

He threw 37 innings last year. Even if he’s ready for the Bigs in terms of talent/polish, he’s not ready for a big league workload.

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by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

using him in the second half

burns an option year. I am probably misreading your first sentence, but it seems to me that you are saying that if he starts the year in Memphis, the Cards won’t use an option year.

Another way not to burn an option year is to leave him in Memphis until September, ala Kinney in 2009. That move would seem to by useful only if Garcia struggles in Memphis to start or must be shutdown prior to any callup.

by ubeddie on Mar 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the option year

but you still get the choice of using him the second half if he pitches lights out at Memphis and McClellan is struggling at the big league level. If you start him in the big leagues and he struggles, you’ve burned the option year, you have to move K-Mac back to the rotation from the bullpen (or bring up Walters, Boggs, Ottavino, or Hawk who are all worse options). In summary, that scenario only works if he’s really good from the beginning, and even then, you’re probably going to have to spot him 4-5 starts during the year due to the number of innings and pitches he’s going to throw.

I’d rather let him tune up at Memphis by dominating those hitters for 3 months, then have the option of bringing him up due later if there’s an injury or K-Mac doesn’t cut it at the back end of the rotation. If not, he can spot start some in September and help the ball club, and then bolster the bullpen in the playoffs. I just think the latter scenario is much better for the club and Garcia himself longterm.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would be really difficult

for him to qualify as a super 2.

Really difficult.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

He would have to be on the roster the entire season

to qualify, and even then, it’s not likely he’d be in the top 17%. Like I said, it’s very unlikely this would happen.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

he’d have to be on the roster to gain the service time. That would give him 2.147 service years per Cot’s contracts. The cutoff for this last offseason was 2.139 (Adam Jones lost the tiebreaker). It is unlikely Garcia spends a full season on the 25 man roster, but if he does, I think he would be a Super Two.

by ubeddie on Mar 18, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are going to be a lot of Super 2 players this year though

At least that’s what’s projected. That means the line might move up .010 and he would be under it. I think it’s a real stretch that he’s super 2 and it’s not much to worry about overall.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am less worried about either

than i am about blowing the kid up, or blowing up our bullpen to save from blowing the kid up. the wise thing for all parties is to start him in memphis – what’s the panic?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amen

I remember these same conversations about Reyes in 2006 and 2007. That didn’t turn out well for us. We don’t have to use him, it’s not in the best interests of the ballclub to take the risk, so why would we consider it?

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reyes is not the same as Garcia

Very different pitchers. I just don’t see how kmac, who has faded each of his two MLB years by the end of the season, is a better bet to make a starter.

by DriverZn on Mar 18, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps having 4 days off between pitching

and being on a regular schedule will keep him fresher for the end of the season rather than throwing 80 innings out of the bullpen. Smoltz always said that the bullpen was harder on his arm due to fatigue than starting ever was.

Sure they’re different pitchers, but why push our luck with the best pitching prospect in our system not named Shelby? We don’t NEED him to be the fifth starter right now, so why not just give him recovery time and then let him ease his way in later in the season if he shows he’s sound at AAA? I don’t see the need to push our luck with a 5th starter in an otherwise solid rotation.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you proposing a Rich Harden setup?

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Que?

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

wha?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

and who is rich harden?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

FI meant Joba rules and never got around to correcting myself.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I know

Garcia doesn’t throw 98 miles per hour and strike out 10 per 9 innings. So I don’t understand either correlation actually.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean we let Garcia do what Joba did in '08.

100 IP shouldn’t be too much for Garcia to handle.

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But he doesn't have that kind of stuff

and we don’t have that many relievers.

It’s also easier to carry 13 or 14 pitchers on an AL team because of the DH.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

how do you see our pen looking opening day?

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like this:

Franklin – CL
Motte – SU
Miller – LOOGY
Reyes – LOOGY
Hawk – MR
Boggs – MR
Sanchez – MR

Should look something like that I would guess.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

They're swappable pieces, imo

I’d rather have Sanchez, but Salas has had a decent spring as well.

That bullpen puts a shitload of guys on base, that’s my concern.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well motte could very well become our closer mid-season and

finish with 80+Ks in the pen.

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not by throwing 97 MPH

down the middle with a shitty slider again.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he said he found a good secondary pitch

a man can dream, right?

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Most all of us are

I don’t think too many of us have a lot of faith in Franklin for a full season again.

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by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

man is it too late to sign smoltz?

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same plan from my viewpoint

start Garcia in Memphis, manage his innings and use him in the second half

by ubeddie on Mar 18, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

What's the worst thing that can happen?

Rick Ankiel? Anthony Reyes?

I don’t think that will be the case. But that would the worst that can happen.

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So help me GOB

if this quote in the goold article

Two Cardinals officials recently said Stavinoha has proven all he needs to at Class AAA.
means Allen Craig starts the season in Memphis, I’ll be uber pissed.

 Like my favorite basketball coach, Bo Ryan of the great Wisconsin Badgers

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>

by tgreenfield on Mar 18, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Means He'll Be Traded...

What about the Nats, they cud use a new outfielder…

:=8)

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by The MooCow on Mar 18, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Craig in Memphis is not a horrible thing

If he has any future with the Cards, it will be in rightfield or at third base. Having time in Memphis to improve his defense (or see if he can play right) might be a good thing in the long run – otherwise, the MOO is right – he’s trade bait

by CRay on Mar 18, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

wrong....

AC in AAA is a BAD thing.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

we don’t even need to trade stav. we should just gift him to the nats so he can take the field with dunc and dunn.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read that to mean that

a) if Stav is ever going to be ready to be a major leaguer, it’s now; and b) we don’t want him on our AAA roster; therefore c) if he doesn’t make the team right now, we’ll trade him.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 18, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade him for evan longoria :)

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll mull it over

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've been noticing that word in articles now

i chuckle every time.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree with your interpretation

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, does anyone know

why K-Mac is not scheduled to pitch behind Hill today? Hill is listed as starting with the following scheduled to follow: “LHP Dennys Reyes, RHP Jason Motte, RHP Mitchell Boggs, RHP Blake Hawksworth. Insurance arms: RHP Shelby Miller, RHP Pete Parise, RHP Fernando Salas.”

link

by CRay on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Answered my own question

K-Mac is starting tomorrow. Garcia to get a start on Monday – link

by CRay on Mar 18, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am pleased

with this news. Monday’s game is on FS Midwest.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 18, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

TLR does not know Garcia's name.

The new Young Pitcher, perhaps. I love how Hummel has to insert Garcia’s name parenthetically because TLR does not use it, presumably because of Garcia’s lack of MLB experience.

La Russa said that Garcia had always been under consideration for this start, which will be one of two games the Cardinals will play that day (the other will be against Boston here). And La Russa also made it clear that he wasn’t thinking in terms of Garcia being a lefthanded reliever if he wasn’t in the Cardinals’ rotation at the start of the season.

"He was never a candidate to be out of the bullpen, unless he was a starter in waiting, where you want to get his feet wet," said La Russa. "I said what argues against (Garcia being in the bullpen) was that he was not a full Triple-A pitcher last year. We wouldn’t take him as a third lefthanded reliever.

"He needs to pitch."

Garcia worked just only 37 2/3 innings in the system last year after recovering from Tommy John elbow surgery in 2008.

(Garcia) has done what he had to do the first couple of weeks," said La Russa. "Now you start getting serious.

"I think he knows that he’s being looked at, so he’s under pressure and we’ll see how he handles it. I think he’ll be fine."

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 18, 2010 11:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Goold at least gives us the "Young ---"

We can’t have a billion Young Pitchers. What is it? Is it Young Guy? Young Fella? Young’un?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Lanzador Joven?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 18, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Young senor

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

That one is understandable. TLR probably just kept using “he” because within conversation that makes more sense.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the paretheses was probably "that" or "it"

in response to the question of whether jaime would be in the BP: “what argues against that is…”

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's probably it

or he kept calling him fucker
or sth

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i choose to believe

tony knows everyone’s name and DOB in the whole system, but also knows this meme and is playing along. funny fella.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

just start calling him He Who Pitches

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

also, note to Hummel

you use square brackets and not regular brackets
like this: [Hummel] learn your mother[loving] language rules

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not in AP Style

You use parens.

When I was a reporter, I had to insert last names all the time, because the interviewee usually used the pronoun in response to a direct question about a specific person (“So, what do you think about Garcia?” “Well, he did really well today, and he should do well tomorrow.”)

The other times were when the interviewee used a nickname or first name of a person; AP Style usually dictates that you never use nicknames and replace first names in quotations with the last name of people in articles unless they’re really well known (like Albert).

by Forsch31 on Mar 18, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Insider Info

Love it! One of the reasons that VEB is so valuable to me; lots of people with interests in lots of different things

We have former ballplayers, we have medical experts, we have mechanics experts (hmm… who could that be?), we have literary buffs, lawyers, students, partiers… everything!

Oh, and gdm

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forrest Glum

sorry, gdm

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, i think i look great all things considering

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

your welcome.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

what's a gdm?

too funny danny boy, too f’ing funny

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

f'in morgan ensberg

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

more important is

who were you a reporter for?
and why aren’t you anymore?

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this some sort of strauss interrogation?

i hope you’re from one of those countries where they really know how to interrogate.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

where i come from

we drink with for a few hours and then just ask the questions politely – getting answers never fails and no need for water or boards

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you're like one of those female russian spies?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's your own fault

now i’m guessing former soviet bloc spy lady.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Papua New Guinea

I knew it

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 19, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

1. For the Hour in Norwalk, CT, and Fairfield Citizen-News back in the early 1990s.
2. No money or life in journalism. I became (and still am) an editor and project manager in publishing (currently working for a research company)

by Forsch31 on Mar 18, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leach blog/twit
  1. Pips, I mean Braves, lineup: Cabrera 9, Prado 4, Jones 5, Glaus 3, Diaz 7, McLouth 8, Infante 6, Ross 2, Hudson 1. 23 minutes ago via web

1. Schumaker 2B
2. Lopez SS
3. Pujols 1B
4. Rasmus CF
5. Ludwick RF
6. Craig LF
7. Molina C
8. Freese 3B
9. Hill LHP

Also scheduled to pitch: Reyes, Boggs, Motte, Hawksworth
Backup pitchers: S.Miller, Parise, Salas

Santa’s in towwwwn.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions  

no holliday again

hmmm

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

see below

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

that looks like a real lineup

i think of craig as holliday lite anyways.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

so we should sign him for 3 yrs $60M

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 18, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

might be a better deal than the holliday contract

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

tiiiiiiiiimeeeeeeeee to panic!

woot.

JoeStrauss Am hearing less rosy projections Re: Holliday. Intercostal problem slow to come around. TLR downplaying. #stlcards 16 minutes ago via web

http://twitter.com/JoeStrauss/status/10674369409

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:08 AM EDT reply actions  

ok i must have missed something

can you please explain the seemingly new thing of the pony when there is a strauss quote?..or is this in an updated version of the VEB lingo book…ie. snowcones, and turkey shooters?

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Mar 18, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

memesplanation

Unicorns now generally used to alleviate bitter, acerbic, chip-on-the-shoulder journalism, etc.

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2009/10/19/1090784/adam-wainwright-and-late-blooming#23033279

Can we make a VEB pact
stating that any link to a Strauss article be amended with a “(Strauss)” at the end so I can take a happy pill before reading it?
by fourstick on Oct 19, 2009 1:45 PM CDT

I just hope that there are unicorns.
by bgh on Oct 19, 2009 2:18 PM CDT

[ http://i626.photobucket.com/albums/tt343/nomar34/StraussUnicorn.jpg ]
by nomar34 on Oct 19, 2009 2:34 PM CDT 6 recs

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you sir

i noticed them the other day, but missed the initial conversation

This guys so good(Pujols) He should be illegal-Pirates announcers

by punchinjudy on Mar 18, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks again

for pointing out that the unicorns are a defensive-system-against-Strauss meme, and not just a tag-along-for-Strauss-sightings meme

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 18, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The meme is what it is, let it breathe

It stops being a meme when people try to control its meaning.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a Gandalf effect
“But truth to tell your welcome is doubtful here, Master Gandalf. You have ever been a herald of woe. Troubles follow you like crows, and ever the oftener the worse … Here you come again! And with you come evils worse than before, as might be expected. Why should I welcome you, Gandalf Stormcrow? Tell me that.”

“Why indeed should we welcome you, Master Stormcrow? Láthspell I name you, Ill-news; and ill news is an ill guest they say.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am a defensive system against strauss

come us passport, start the strauss face punching
you can pay me in unicorns

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'd be doing a great service for your nation

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would also require

the golden key to Albertofstan

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

Allen Craig will start in left field on Opening Day. And hit .400 in April. With seven to 10 homers.

/A fella can dream.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 18, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anybody have an opinion on

whether Craig has the arm to play RF?

by jjray on Mar 18, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

not a firm one

but what little I have heard is that Craig does not have a rightfielder’s arm – don’t know if it could become acceptable with strengthening exercises and practice – but, this is part of a point I’ve made before – might be worth the Cards time to let him play everyday in right in Memphis to get a better reading – otherwise, he’s a career pinch hitter for the Cards (or trade bait)

by CRay on Mar 18, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I heard an interesting interview Tuesday RE: Craig's defense

that was illuminating, I thought.

I can’t remember whether it was D Goold or M Leach that Bernie was interviewing Tuesday, but the general gist of the interview was this:

Craig is a good athlete, who should have enough range to be a good defender, except that he throws like a girl.

It was kind of an odd interview. Other than what must be a historically bad throwing arm, there wasn’t any one thing that the interviewee could pin on Craig as being bad defensively, except that at the end of the day he turned out to be a poor defender no matter where you played him.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 18, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer his arm over Stavinoha's,

but Mather and Luddy are definitely more RF-suited.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The strongest arm on the Cardinals

Is currently playing second base. If there was ever a team that could attempt to hide an arm in RF it would be the Cardinals.

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

and here I thought yadi had the best arm.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would guess Motte

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously...

I was referring to position players. Yadi’s arm is great. So is Skippy’s. I doubt Skip would be able to throw a runner out from his knees. Not sure if yadi can throw a liner in from right field to the plate. But really the whole thing is moot.

The point was the cut off man has a really good arm and it may be possible to hide a girly throwing right fielder.

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I was just messin around

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say Ankiel

Then I remembered he’s a Royal :-(

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

*sobs on bathroom floor in fetal position*

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 19, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant me, btw, not you

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 19, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade skip midseason and convert him to a second baseman

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would make it a lot easier to trade him or Ludwick

If that happens. Although that would be a rocky start for the “Most expensive Cardinal player ever” thought wouldn’t it?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

no kidding

and then the conniptions over Albert’s “protection”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

and they said he'd never get hurt

happens almost every damn time a big contract is signed. the dude underperformes or he gets hurt the very next season. almost ever damn time

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I, for one, am not worried about the fifth starter

as much as I am the bullpen. The Franklin extension is looking worse and worse, and nobody else has stepped up that can fill the bill, which is why we’re seeing all the young guys throwing a shitload of innings as of late, imo. Moz is looking for SOMEONE to prove they can consistently get outs in the middle innings and the ninth. At this point, we should be praying for all lefties to come up in the ninth every game so we can throw Miller out there and shut them down — but not all teams can be the Phillies, unfortunately.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

I never really think too much about the bullpen but then look at the names on the roster and cringe.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's kinda how I was too for most of the spring

I thought out of Boggs, Hawk, Ottavino, Sanchez, Salas, and Motte we’d find at least 3 viable middle inning candidates and one guy who could come in and close games if Franklin struggled. I’ve not seen that.

We’re set from the left side, unfortunately, our LOOGY’s get righties out almost as well as the rest of our fucking bullpen, and that’s a problem.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

the bullpen is definitely our biggest weakness

sure there’s some upside with boggs and motte, but they could just as easily suck pretty bad

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'd think that by now we's have at least one reliable one

or at least someone that can close without needing a 6 run lead

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

that'd be nice!

seems like it’s been like this for way too long, but I guess that’s the one area we can’t afford to take care of

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't say I'm terribly surprised by this

I got the feeling we were collectively counting a lot of chickens about Boggs 98mph and supposed new-found control, and Motte’s 2nd pitch. I think our bullpen is going to suck something horrible this year, but hopefully the rest of the team should be good enough to get it done. If we’re in the playoff hunt by August, I think there’s a very good chance that we make a play for Heath Bell or someone.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

windy day

http://twitpic.com/19c47p

guess i better fire up KTRS and see what’s up

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm sure gdm will be happy to see that Lopex is starting at SS

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm trying to give him a shot since i read Albert likes him so much

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

don’t call Albert, he’s not your hombre, friend

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoops

that turned out way different than I wanted it to, forgot to say don’t call Albert hombre

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i got it, i think

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, call Albert

make sure he stays in StL

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Back on track with the important things,

I’m not your friend, guy.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not your buddy, guy

buddy guy is a guitarist though

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

thought he was a drummer?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 3:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.ask.com/music/artist/Buddy-Guy/356

you are thinking of one of the best drummers of all time, http://www.buddyrich.com/

(I like jazz more than blues, in case you didn’t guess)

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 4:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah yeah

don’t need a link to realize my mistake

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, just in case anyone else wants to check em out

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes it is

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know you chuckle every time you read,

Candelario Ramos

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

when?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

we were wondering, why isn't this green by now damnit?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

MARCH MADNESS!!!!!

Sorry. Back to baseball.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm gonna cheat

Mid-March to mid-April. Encompasses March Madness, Opening Day, and the Masters.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the trees are blooming, the weather is getting better, etc.

Just my favorite time of year

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

awh yeah

the weather has been amazing in chicago this week, been walking around a lot instead of taking the bus. sun!

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gives me hope

and really makes me put the gun down from my temple every morning…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 19, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

well guess what

it’s going to snow in a couple of days

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

and once again, the worst of all evils wins

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just saw the weather is snow tomorrow...

and I’m in theory helping a buddy move. This is gonna be awesome.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 20, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh shit dude

it’s coming down pretty good

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the boggs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 20, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the Masters pushes April over the top as well.

Plus, the NHL has really drawn me in this year.

I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot

by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I moved to GA I thought about buying some tickets to the 2008 Masters from Stubhub

They were like $700-$800 a pop. For one day of the tournament. No thanks.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

$800 buys a lot of MLB seats

Funny that you mention stubhub…Im in a wedding this weekend, and my gift was a stubhub gift card. Tacky or awesome? I hope both, describes my buddy pretty well.

I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot

by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tacky and awesome aren't mutually exclusive terms

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

tacky or awesome here

depends on the value of the gift card

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first month

of the season can’t compare to the playoffs. No other sports exist!

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't like college basketball

/opinion

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

trade stav for sonnanstine, that's what I would do.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe some cookies

but not gooey butter

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

mmmmm gooey butter cookies

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 19, 2010 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

yes.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 6:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

hasn't he had 2 and 3 mil offers already?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think he had a much bigger one somewhere

like, $7m or something, but I can’t really recall. Anyhow, $1m would be a steal – he’d be a very good 5th starter.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 22, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gibson brings the lineup

baseball!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

per Strauss

Gibby still a gamer. B. Gibson wearing walking cast for stress fracture hour ago. Just took out lineup card in spikes. #Heat

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi's not corraling some of the pitches this ST

slightly nettlesome

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, but some of them are hand-work

the ball’s popped out of his hand twice

that’s… not like him, not even in ST.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh

To me, unless something really stands out in ST, it’s still just ST.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shannon just said La Russa's full of it

classic

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Direct quote?

I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot

by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

re: “who’s your fifth starter” answers

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot

by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Craig has nice play for out

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Chipper walks, Glaus up. 2 outs.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Santa :(

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

bat slam

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Emo Santa is emo

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by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert gets it. inning over.

Hill is, apparently, working fast.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 outs.

Hudson is, uh, also working fast. groundball outs. Skippy… 1 pitch 1 out.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

and another. inning in the books.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

em effer, that's Carp-time.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Carp-Hudson duel would be over before an episode of 24

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by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"if you're 1 for 28... the mirror's cracked...

the shower’s cold … the breakfast’s cold… the dogs are hiding from you…."

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Rich Hill manages to K the 1-for-29 guy

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

question

when were Hill’s and Garcia’s surgeries? how long have they been out of practice?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure about Hill

I would look at Hazel’s fanpost about that one. But Garcia had surgery way back in 2008

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m sure Garcia is a lot more ready to roll than Hill is

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

should be but he just got back into baseball activity last Sept

And he has never pitched more than 155 innings in any season and that was back in 2006 and hasn’t topped 110 since then.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stronger as in more velocity yes

but that doesn’t mean that you can pop them straight into games and increase their workload by 50% over what it was 2 years ago and 500% over what it was last year (and that is assuming he only reaches ~150 IP)

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by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Josh Johnson?

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by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt say it couldn't happen

I just wouldn’t assume it could

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by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

the pitch is late. stolen base.

“Yadi made a good throw from his knees.” “To no avail, though.” ohhh that burns me. get rid of the rock faster!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

booth thinks he's not getting the strike call for the curveballs.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Me too

Even if it does f my bracket up. Actually, if RMU beats Nova, that would be the second time I had a 2-seed in the final four that lost in the first round (Iowa St. vs. Hampton)

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by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I work with a bunch of Nova people, so this is great

But I’m sweating the BYU-Florida game…for some reason I thought BYU in the Final Four made sense

I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot

by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pomeroy thinks they're an underrated team

Number 8 in his rankings: http://kenpom.com/rate.php

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by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's where I stole my prediction from

Unoriginality is my specialty

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by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

I stole my predictions from some random site, which coincidentally, also likes the kenpom rankings

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by jacksonian on Mar 18, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always want it to happen

But it seems like every year some really low seed pumps up the adrenaline for the first 30 minutes of the game and then the other team actually realizes they need to win the game to advance.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the note of the Tourney

It seems CBS has finally figured out how to do online video for profit and make it still cool for the user.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would've disagreed with you a bit ago

but the last two fouls on RM have been total BS, just total gifts to Reynolds. What a shame if Nova wins now.

…And now another one. Ugh.

by mattyp on Mar 18, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I can never really get that excited about basketball

It is a sport where refs can totally chance a game. As bas as umps are in baseball they are no where as bad as in basketball.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shannon

“If I was the commissioner, we’d have two starting times. High noon, and low noon.”

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

fan has a nice play off the roof

biggest cheer so far

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

great. avocado time.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melky gets a hit

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yadi strolls to the mound

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

lots of throw-overs to first

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it

but does anyone else think we could have saved ourselves a lot of money and started Mather and Craig in the outfield along with Rasmus this season? I guess we’ll find out how well they hit if they make the team lol

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

whoops

forgot about Luddy

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think so

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

(mark my words...!)

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like both of those guys well-enough

But I don’t they will approach Holliday’s production. Now as far as 2011 goes — I wouldn’t mind going with one of them instead of re-signing Lud.

by OCCardsFan on Mar 18, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Devil's

advocate today? Craig to 2B, and no Holliday. Chicago heresy?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's how I roll

I’m a blasphemer! I repent, I repent!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

You

are forgiven my son, but never speak these blasphemous hings again.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Mar 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

saved money?

Sure. But don’t forget our two best hitters in spring training last year were Ankiel and K. Greene.

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just watching some of those Mather video highlights in the other thread and it made me think of this

but then again, most of us were assuming that Mather’s wrist would keep him out of commision

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hill threw it away to Albert

I wish Oquendo would beat all their butts.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

(yeah, Melky scored.)

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow.

Fail on the Cardinals.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

what is up with the errors this spring

I know it’s ST, but man, they’ve played sloppy thus far

by stxcardsfan on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope we're better defensively than last season

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Colby should play almost every game this year, instead of having Dick out there for a good chunk of games

So that helps

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Skip will be better, and hopefully boog will be at short most of the season

and hopefully Freese will be good at D like he’s supposed to be, etc etc

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed

I had blocked Dunc’s “defense” out of my mind

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by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

although it is comical to think about now that he's gone

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, Terry Pendleton works for the Braves, I forgot that.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

isn't he going to take over for Cox next season?

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by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

4th walk from Hill.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I really had some hope in Hill

But this many walks is a terrible sign. Garcia just jumped over Hill on the depth chart.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

he just looked so... whipped in all the photos

are we to K-Mac vs Garcia now?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I really think that Garcia is pretty far ahead of Hill in recovery and being ready to pitch

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chipper HR

first of the spring. isn’t that nice of Hill. apparently a bomb.

applause.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

No wonder Texas has never been that good

Texas manager used coke

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

you're a little late to the party

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

just saw it today

did I miss it somewhere else?

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

a lot of rich people do it, so…. just don’t get physically addicted

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for the record

I have never done coke. I just know so many people that have. And I have never seen anything crazy with anyone on it. Know meth on the other hand

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's really really stupid to do that stuff

when we have all this caffeine lying around. do an espresso shot.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, if you can overdose on that shit it's too extreme

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah but

that’s temporary and it’s all natural

i once saw an opium trip aftermath unlocking some manic paranoia and light schitzophrenia in a friend of mine. i am sure he had those before and just hadn’t manifested yet but boy was that some scary tripping…

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s all natural

Plenty of harmful substances are “all natural”. You watch too many shampoo commercials.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

nexdef'd

link

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh, didnt get a chance to read yesterday

oh and btw someone else already point it out, so I would say youg ot nexdef’d too ;P

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

no link, son

if my browser locks up trying to get the link, and no one else puts it up, doesn’t count

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

good call

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

product of

the greenie era?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salas throwing

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

how has Hill's curve looked this spring?

I’m just curious if his curve is back to par

by stxcardsfan on Mar 18, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

it seems to be good

the rest of it is rather crappy

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it man I thought you were talking about st games.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's practice

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi!

first Cardinal hit.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

MatthewHLeach

Nine of the past 11 batters have walked, struck out or homered. #TTO #BoredDefenders 3 minutes ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

some guy I've never heard of is batting for Hill

I’m blanking… how have I not heard of him

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan Haren is batting for Hill?

wth!?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shorey?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it's shorey

i think AA or AAA hasn’t been decided yet

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

he'll be in AAA

or he’ll be released. More likely than not AAA, although if/when Henley and Jones get moved up it’ll be getting pretty crowded for lefty-hitting corner guys.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

dgoold
  1. C-Jones’ homer landed on roof of Marlins’ building, a place rumored to have been visited by an Amaury Cazana Marti blast once. #stlcards 1 minutes ago via web
  2. Speaking of whom: He’s on the travel roster tomorrow. #stlcards 1 minutes ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought Marti was back in the Mexican leagues

is he still in our system? How old is he now?

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as I know

all we got was this

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

COLBY RASMUS DIVES AND MAKES THE CATCH!

HE’S…. HE’S SOLD IT!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

dgoold

  Colby Rasmus with PlayStation-like catch in deep right-center field. He dives and makes a backhand snare of Prado’s fly ball. #stlcards half a minute ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I demand video evidence

In other words — pics or it didn’t happen.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait till tomorrow

Rovak’s the only regular photog down there

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

aw gdm it.

Rovak’s gone too. who is documenting this?!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm a thing?

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by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

like steven tyler's

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just grab the nearest Cubs hat.

Makes me think I am doing the guy a favor.

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by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yet lots of applause as he can't throw out Lopex

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

count your blessings

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

good ole Joe Thruston

I’m surprised that the Braves have him playing 3rd. All that time at third last year had to have raised his value for other teams. Seeing him as a player who can play 3 out of the 4 infield positions instead of just a backup second baseman.

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

pretty funny listening to Thurston throwing to Glaus

In thurston-fashion, his throw pulls Glaus off the bag.

by stxcardsfan on Mar 18, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

"Thurston can't the ball out of his glove"

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leach gets in the ST hustle comments

http://twitter.com/MatthewHLeach/status/10682771862

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colby is going for three....

COLBY HAS A TRIPLE!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

he may be on fire.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

awh yeah

hope he gets a bunch of those this season, I love triples

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cobly with the Triple

showing off the legs. Girls swoon everywhere.

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll swoon too

it was weird how “slow” his line was last year—22 doubles, 2 triples, 3 stolen bases. He might as well have been Nick Stavinoha.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

because when he was caught stealing at third

it was a quick trip to the doghouse.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Melky robs Luddy

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope he beats out the hawk.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

(g)awww.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hawksworth looked good last year

I liked how hard he was throwing the fastball and his command was, at times, excellent. If he doesn’t make the team I’ll at least be excited to see him pitch in the bullpen full-time in Memphis.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

and he wasn’t all that great last year, to be honest. but he’d never really pitched in the bullpen, either—I think you have to give him at least as much credit as, say, Boggs for the jump in his velocity.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is not just velocity

Boggs has a fastball with great movement, a plus slider, and an under rated change up

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

but Hawkworth has a lot more accuracy it seems like

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I meant

I know next to nothing about Salas

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said it before and I'll say it again

Salas= RH version of Sanchez.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it, who am I thinking of, have I really gone this long thinking this?

I swear there’s someone I’m confusing him with.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oneli Perez, Evan MacLane

But they’re starters

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH MY GOD

Today is awful. But Oneli seems like a name only a LHP would have!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

and a reliever.

but other than that, 100% right…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

perhaps

Samuels,Salas, Sanchez,Scherer, their names are confusing the hell out of me.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad the cubs selected parisi so I can keep him and Parise straight.

not too happy they have him but now it’s going to be easier for me.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a horrible analogy

Salas’s stuff is far inferior to Sanchez.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Mar 18, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm going by stats Az, Salas probably does have better stuff.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worse stuff

Better results

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by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

can anyone else figure out why?

Hawk doesn’t even have two innings work, I don’t think

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

either they view him as already on the team

or he’s going to memphis? that’s weird… maybe they’ll start to use him more in the second half of ST. I kinda figured he was a shoe in to make the team though.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was never to high on Hawksworth

He doesn’t really have any plus pitches. While Salas has a plus fastball and very plus curveball

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure Salas will be better reliever

but Hawk is the new PKicker

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

isn't salas's fastball supposed to be considerably less fast

than what the relief version of Hawksworth showed in St. Louis?

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought

But I have heard huge swings on the speed of his fastball from like 96 to 91 depending on who is telling

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

a minor league "mid-90s fastball"

is probably about 91.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gaw :(

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody cares

But uh, my bracket is looking in baaaaad shape right now

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by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Friggin Vanderbilt....

Who knew a team with 30 wins could actually win a game?

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off to the denist to get my tooth polished and fangs sharpened.

Think I can convince the lady to turn on 550 while I am in the chair?

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd be shocked if it wasn't

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this real life?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if you have dental insurance

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this just fantasy

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Caught in a landslide

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

No I caught that on tosh.0

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Open your eyes

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

and seeeeeee

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 19, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it gonna be like this forever?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

good god come on BYU

Me picking them to make the final 4 was dumbdumbdumbdumbdumb

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
The Best Defensive Play I Have Seen in Person/a>

by tgreenfield on Mar 18, 2010 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

strike out looking

crowd is into it.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

glaus throught he had a walk

but struck out. Funny. I can actually picture that in my head.

by Evilfrog on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

ohhhh man, I wonder if they got a bat slam

lucky

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's up with that guy

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i swear, every twit I repeat from him

is a public service. wading through the slapfights and snipes is a drag.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well,

red baron did say that he was even more unpleasant in person than he is in print.

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 18, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that's the last time I ever have faith in Notre Dame

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Just think

ND losing means most Cubs fans are sad today

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 18, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

they play Song 2

then announce Yadi. this guy Craig is at second, I think.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

3-4-1

Craig moves to third.
the clapping song kicks up.
Freese up.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

LaRue on deck for pitcher

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

http://twitter.com/MatthewHLeach/status/10683334244

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

funny though

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on Freese

I think Craig needs a start at 3B next week

by stxcardsfan on Mar 18, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Small damnit sample freaking size

Remember: Pujols is hitting .176.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

that'd be cool if Freese is anything like Pujols

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

My point is

The sample is too small to mean anything. Letting 20-30 spring AB heavily color your view of a player is a mistake we all make every single spring.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

I was just being an ass

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

And health, IMO

On a somewhat case-by-case basis. For example, it sure is nice to see that Mather’s wrist is working.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad the wrist exists!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad it's not chilly anymore

Wait, were we done with the Freese puns?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

new battery

Hawksworth and LaRue

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

fail.

http://twitter.com/MatthewHLeach/status/10682983584

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it better than being called "Young outfielder"?

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

as far as name-calling

i could think of worse

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

either that, or a VEBer

who is both sarcastic and trying to make a meme out of the discussion above

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 18, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll believe that VEB can coordinate something like that

when a wave stops dead in Busch Stadium

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

99.99

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

bad news

Stav continues to hit

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, it's JoJo on the mound

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blanco robs Albe--- .... drops it, Stav scores

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

pinchrunner

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Mather bats for Rasmus

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

great news

With a vote of 51-2, the Illinois Senate passed a bill that would create the Illinois and Midwest High Speed Rail Commission. The 12-member commission would issue a road map by March 2011 on how best to structure a public-private partnership to design, build and operate a high speed rail system at speeds of 150 miles per hour and up.

I can go see more Cards games in the future! probably be like 5 years before it happens though, maybe longer

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

awesome

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm probably being unrealistic though

it’ll be like 15 years lol…. I hope it gets done much sooner though

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's possible

Missouri’s one of the only states that’s actively supported their routes

I’m wondering how they’ll deal with the Joliet section though. it’s been a while for me, but IIRC that goes by the prison. otherwise it’s generally rural for the rest of the way. I don’t see where they’d expand. go around…?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think, but i'm not sure

that before that the state subsidized it. otherwise there’d be no route to stim, like most other states.

there are some glaringly missing direct routes to other cities.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is much more Federally subsidized than State

All the funding went to states that were prepared to step up for it. Almost no money went to the North East

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, currently

I mean pre-stim

though, really? none to NE … train routes? that’s a little nuts.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohio got a shit ton of that money too

they want trains from the nattie to dayton, to here, & up to ctown. i’ll believe it when i see it. they also want to tax the crap out of us to keep it going because no one will use it.

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by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty cool

There’s some preliminary high-speed rail work going on out here in California, too.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

220MPH!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Diego to SanFran, yeah?

Any word on ETA?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I know of

But here’s the official website of the project. I believe it is still some years off.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Completely agree there

I’ve made that drive so many times, and never once have I felt good on my way back. And I’m not even 21 yet!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF do you do in Vegas if you're not 21?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I play Ultimate Frisbee for USC

And the biggest tournament of the year is in Vegas. I think over 100 teams were there this year.

Anyways, long story short, the team rented out a house, and the tournament got cancelled Saturday morning due to rain, so I just started drinking. Nothing better than being drunk in a hot tub at 10:00 am, eh?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's why it's in February

The tagline for the tournament is actally “The best or worst idea ever”

With subtext “5 years. No deaths. A few arrests”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

that is freaking hilarious.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zach Galifinakis is your vice-president

That was the funniest SNL monologue in years

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Link?

I haven’t seen it

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by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope this works

I’m at work, so I just clicked on the link and copied it, before making sure the video worked. Here’s the link

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was very Mitch Hedberg/Demetri Martin-esque

I like it

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I died when he was going through all of the different names for his look

“Someone who posts on an alpaca message board” may have been my favorite.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really hate the drive up and down,

and driving is an awfully slow and inefficient way of travelling 400 miles in a straight line. Man I want this to happen.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder what the ticket prices will be like to ride this thing

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

the IL one is supposed to be 150

the Cali one is supposed to be 220

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read a long article about it not so long ago

And if memory serves, basically they said: if it’s not going to be cheaper than a plane trip between the two locations, there’s probably no point in doing it, because everyone will just fly instead. So at least as far as travel between the major cities goes, it’ll probably be at least slightly cheap than a plane trip.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

time-wise, it may be cheaper, though

as long as their security takes less time than TSA, they have an advantage on short hops.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

aren’t railway stations in the middle of town rather than the outskirts like airports?

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping it's significantly cheaper than a plane ticket

probably won’t be at first though

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trains are nice because

You have way more room to sit. Can bring your own booze and don’t have to worry about crazy security checkpoints like you do with airplanes.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I was thinking

but even then it’d only be the stations
the train itself still beats all

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

nothing like a little fear mongering

I read that you are more likely to die going to get your Toyota recall fixed than to die of the recall

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of like,

you’re more likely to shoot yourself in the head intentionally than get shot, there’s a zero percent chance a flu vaccine will kill you while the flu itself is one of the top 10 causes of death every year, etc.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh,

or like that one time someone got killed by a turkey getting dropped from an overpass, so now it’s specifically against the law everywhere, even though it was already illegal.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

only if

More people were sabermetric fans. They would just say “small sample size”

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Nate Silver wrote about this once.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but us statheads have been used to lecturing people about sample sizes for so long that if everyone got it, it would leave this kind of weird, non-sarcastic, void.

--
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BBTF
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by D.Szymborski on Mar 18, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB: heh heh heh

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

we say stop this right fucking now or there will be hell to pay

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

the royal we

heh heh heh

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know plenty of people who drove long distances after 9/11 in fear

My uncle actually paid for non-refundable plane tickets for a family vacation and then proceeded to let them go to waste in fear when driving is crazy more dangerous per mile. Drama makes people do dumb things.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a control issue

people feel like they have control over the situation when they are driving (even though that’s not necessarily true), and you really have very little control when you are flying.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's see, in my truck, i'm at the wheel making it go

in a plane, i’m sitting in a cramped seat breathing disease filled air of 200+ other germ infected people, while a drunk or high pilot, who i can’t see, is behind a bullet proof locked door flying the big tube of death.

gee, i wonder why people feel more in control in our cars?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously that's why people feel more in control

But in reality there are a few thousand people driving around you whose state of sobriety or driving ability you very much do not control.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'd still rather drive than fly

but we understand you have to fly sometimes, it’s one of life’s many joys. you know, like getting a tooth pulled without the gas.

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

either way

train bombings are “de rigeur” in Europe. it’s not beyond the pale. so far no one here figures they’re high-value.

and I’ll end my thread here

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren't the majority of train deaths still from people crossing the tracks on foot?

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad they picked the faster option

I know some local nimbys in Springfield were trying to push 100 mph as “high speed.”

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've heard both 110 and 150

here’s the full email excerpt:

With a vote of 51-2, the Illinois Senate passed a bill that would create the Illinois and Midwest High Speed Rail Commission. The 12-member commission would issue a road map by March 2011 on how best to structure a public-private partnership to design, build and operate a high speed rail system at speeds of 150 miles per hour and up. It also would issue recommendations on how to fund the network and integrate the new bullet trains with airports, Amtrak service and public transportation systems throughout the Midwest.
We would like to thank Senator Sandoval for his leadership on this issue so critical to our economic future. Our press release on the vote follows my signiture.
Also, the New York Times had an excellent article on the impacts of bullet trains on travel habits in Spain. You can read the article by clicking here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/16/science/earth/16train.html?emc=eta1
Today’s vote is an important step towards making this service a reality in the Midwest.

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

they spelled signature wrong though

what the hell

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

honestly I'm not sure it'll have a huge impact on travel here, given how much ground it would have to cover in rural areas

but when I was in Japan I was really jealous of their ability to walk to a station and immediately go anywhere. I was less jealous of the way they had to pack together to do it, but whatever.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know in China at least

They don’t understand the queue system. So everyone just jumps in front of everyone for Battle Royale to get on trains

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

in China they probably say

we’re wasting our time with queues.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair,

battle royale is the most communist and egalitarian method of train seating.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what I was thinking of

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think that would work very well with American culture

I’d definitely be finding an MMA gym if that ever gets implemented.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it's normalized, people learn how to push politely

it’s an art

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

Personally I would just get ripped, learn how to punch/grapple and then I’d be far less than polite.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

dangerous plan

all it takes is one grandma to lose an eye

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're doing good business on the River Runner

myself and family use it often
enough demand that they can kick up the price from $25 to $60 for spring break. and most of the “small rural stops” are busy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is the state of Illinois subsidizing this?

And if so, with what money?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

it says that it will be both public and private

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

hopefully once it’s implemented it will somehow save our economy lol

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

not so fast...

Florida voted by statewide referendum in 2000 for high speed rail. So far nothing much has happened, because (1) it’s ridiculously expensive and (2) there are design issues. My favorite is “an Evacuated Tube Transport system, which operates in a vacuum utilizing a maglev track.”

Can Illinois overcome Florida’s 10 year head start?

by madridbend on Mar 18, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not like Illinois is in debt or anything

they should have it done and paid for before my son is 5

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 18, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

you tell 'em Mooo!

I agree

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

NovA Wins!!!! :=8D

i LOVE college basketball!!!
:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 18, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i hate all basketball

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

after Jordan left the Bulls

it just all seems boring to me

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So will baseball suck without Albert?

I'm not a player, I just mouth-breathe a lot

by all4tookie on Mar 18, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cards baseball might

not baseball on the whole
I mean, just watching the LLWS, there are always talents coming up.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

it certainly won't be the same

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

no but it will suck lightly

when Carp retires
hopefully then Sam Carpenter can take over

by d-dee on Mar 18, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

you and me both

I just can’t watch it. Pro basketball was my first sports obsession, but I couldn’t even get into the college version of NBA Jam.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m really excited about it, but I wish they hadn’t waited until I was out of school. We had Jam: TE tournaments all the time. It made everyone into big Golden State fans.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

that sounds like hella fun

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean "College Slam"?

Loved that game. Always took UConn for no reason whatsoever.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boggs on the mound

vs. Hinske
Craig is at first, Gotay at second, Greene Tea at short
Mather in center

welcome Memphis

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:48 PM EDT reply actions  

oh, and Chief Justice

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

i zoned out

Motte is warming up.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Greene Tea "can't get the ball out of the glove"

Rooney immediately waxes nostalgic about Brendan Ryan.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

"STRIKE on the outside corner. Motte went for the kill on three pitches."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

"STRIKE on the inside corner. Two strikeouts for Jason Motte."

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was some excellent Sauce Time.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

how many ballplayers named Jones need to be with the Braves?

is it a requirement to carry two at a time?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

They want Daryl :D

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

good

i’ll take medlen – he can’t be any good, since stav took him deep today.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice :)

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Medlen might be my #1 non-cardinal prospect crush

he’s REALLY flown under the radar with Hanson in that system. I think he’s going to be a real top of the rotation workhorse.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

bad news

Stav hit a home run

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

dammit

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm now going to root for Stav

Just because you all continue to disrespect the man.

Woohoo Stavino!

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 18, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, Stavino

that’s different

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stavino

I can’t take credit, I believe it was the Marlins’ announcers.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard

I wonder if anyone filed a complaint

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one picturing Stav

as a member of DX doing the ‘suck it’ gesture every time he slaps a hr single?

/shameful recollections

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 18, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's like Chris Duncan pt. 2

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without the on-base skillz

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

or the nepotism

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's related to Miles

so the the amount of nepotism is the same

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 18, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh yeah

Big Miles just = more grit

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tyler Greene lets go of his bat

(again, says Rooney)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Gotay robbed

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Diner v. Thursty

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh it's on, now.

Heyward is on deck.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Craig...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Fear Curt Smith
Slugging first baseman Curt Smith went 2-for-3 with a HR and a walk. …

Vuch Report.

Future Redbirds’ hero, Niko Vasquez with a grand slam in Quad Cities upset of Palm Beach.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

and on that slam

yadi2’s favorite guy, mr. beatty, scored a run

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm actually vaguely appalled by mr. beatty

it’s… vexed? who likes him.

I mean, is this really necessary to tweet…. in all-caps…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, i thought you liked him

my bad

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

my only true skill is cut/paste

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just like his logo...

…If I were to choose a young player I really like, It’d have to be Jason Heyward.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 19, 2010 3:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sports Night

will have Terry Pendleton on

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

well, from the boxscore

what i see on the positive side is colby tripled and craig doubled off hudson. and i’m wondering seriously now if salas is going to make the pen.

on the flipside seems to be hill.

(i know i left out something on the positive side but it’s just really too much to have to consider right now.)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Murray State with the buzzer beater over Vandy

Ridiculous

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Down goes Vandy!

SEC 0-2 in the tournament! We suck!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

At least you're not the Pac 10

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

awww

just had to rub it in, huh?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not rubbing anything in

My school wasn’t even eligible for postseason play!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's cool, i'm just bitter

/sheds tear for arizona

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

but lute is a cool name

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh boo hoo

You didn’t make the tournament for the first time since the Spanish Armada

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

arizona basketball is the only thing that keeps me sane in the off season

now i have to work really hard the next three weeks not to lose it.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pick up the Coyotes!

They’re legitimately good.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ice hockey? in a desert? really??

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's like air conditioning

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dumb decision to put them there

But they are good. Somehow.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don't follow hockey that much & are really surprised to hear that

didn’t they got bankrupt last year? didn’t a Canadian billionaire buy them & say he was moving them to Canada?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think the nhl blocked the sale or something

i remember there were a lot of legal goings-on. iirc, gretzky ended up on the wrong side.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

the worst the pac-10 can do is 0-2, right?

how many teams did the sec get in? i haven’t watched or checked anything yet, but i had notre dame and vandy both winning a game even though i really wanted to pick murray state but i know stallings, so…(he’s from collinsville, btw)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

We got 4

Tennessee is playing SDSU tonight (I have them losing that one) and then there’s Kentucky. So the SEC is probably UK and the 11 dwarves…

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've got tenn winning that game, but i debated

i’ve got kentucky losing to w. virginia. i’ve got the 1 seeds on one side and the 2 seeds on the other for the final four, with kansas over w. virginia in the champ.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had Notre Dame in my Elite 8

What was I thinking?!

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

no idea

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Similar

KU, K-State, WVU, Nova are my final four. I’m re-thinking now that I’ve seen what Villanova’s done.

I haven’t lost a matchup yet in my true bracket, though!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd stick with Villanova

By my way of looking at it, they got their bad game in already and pulled through.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's what I'm hoping.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 18, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like the refs were heavily in their favor as well

Hope you’re right, it’s too late now!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem with Nova

is that if Reynolds doesn’t play well, they’re going to have trouble beating anybody good. He didn’t play well today until the last couple minutes and they nearly got beat by a team that they should outclass and beat by 20.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

is reynolds on some special deal

whereby he gets to play for nova forever?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have k-state going out early

but don’t recall the bracket at the moment – pretty sure it was second round.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have Pitt taking out K-State

in the Sweet Sixteen in all three of my brackets.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i definitely have pitt maxxing out

but might have k-state losing the game before they’d meet pitt

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm the opposite

I have Pitt bowing out to Xavier in round 2. I think K-State has a pretty easy run to the elite 8, with BYU being their toughest opponent.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, that's it

i actually have xavier losing round 1 and byu taking out k-state round 2 – fredette put up 37 today. i’ve got butler winning a couple games, but this utep is going to be tough.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My NCAA rules:
  1. Izzo, Self, and Dixon will always make the Sweet Sixteen, unless they play each other, then you pick the guy with the best team. Their teams always play together, have one or two playmakers, and play fantastic team defense.
  2. Beware Duke playing any team that plays physical and can score in the post (including mid-majors). They haven’t had a post player that’s worth a shit on the block since Elton Brand, which turns them into a jump shooting team. Jump shooting teams in college are generally soft, that’s why they’re jump shooting teams. Look at their last 5 tourney exits. I’m not kidding. The ACC is as soft a league as you’ll find in the country, so that doesn’t help them.
  3. Pick any mid-major who might feel they got fucked over by the committee. Generally they end up being 9-10-11-12 seeds and are pissed off because they should have been no worse than a 7. This would include UNI this year.
  4. At least two 5 seeds are going down in the first round, mainly because the NCAA always underrates 12 seeds and overrates deep major conference teams and gives them 5 seeds. Temple is a good bet to get beat this year (Cornell is a solid team, the Owls ride the back of one guy), UTEP is also a good bet to upset Butler, who isn’t as good as their seed this season after being overrated just about every other year in the past 5. UTEP has a former McD All-American Derrick Caracter, who used to go to Louisville — he will give Butler trouble on both ends.

I’ve won at least one of the 4-6 pools I enter for the last 4 to 6 years, although my start this year is pretty poor. FUCK YOU NOTRE DAME!!!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i definitely have cornell beating temple

but couldn’t pull the trigger on utep over butler, just because i think butler won’t turn it over and the butler kid is better than caracter – pretty significantly so, imo.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahem

33-27 UTEP at the half.

Caracter — 12 pts 7 reb in the first half.

Hayward — 6 pts 1 reb in the first half. 0-3 from 3.

Caracter and Britten are shutting down the paint and Butler is struggling to find any offense because of it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh

And Butler turned it over 6 times in the first half — UTEP had only 1.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahem

caracter looks like he ate stanley roberts. let’s see how it goes that last 5 minutes.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Butler continues to shoot 37%

they have no chance.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

they are up 12?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

make it 16

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hayward hasn't done shit though

Mack is carrying them. 22 of their 55 right now and 6 threes.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn you guys I read these as very confusing baseball comments

Butler-royals
Hayword- incorrect spelling of the braves prospect.

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

he gets alot of attention

which opens it up. the kid is seriously good, like a laettner with athleticism. his floor on the next level is probably dunleavey.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't buy it.

He has trouble getting his own shot facing up to the basket.

I’ve seen him a couple of times this year and haven’t figured out what the hubbub is about.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

oh well. i saw his first game last year as a freshman and have followed him since. great, great athlete with terrific shooting and handling skills, good vision, and he’ll be a lot stronger by the time he leaves butler – he’s only a soph, and a late-bloomer due to his previous focus on tennis.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he's hard to judge because of the teams they play

I don’t think his footspeed is good enough to play a wing spot at the next level and he’s not physical enough to play the 4 either. He’s a tweener, Adam Morrison type.

In fact, that’s who I’d compare him to — Adam Morrison with a little better vision and less scoring ability.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

morrison isn't a great athlete though

this kid can out run and out jump pretty much anybody trying to guard him, and his lateral movement is good – like tennis good

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Morrison still hasn't really got a shot at the next level.....

I’m not saying he could make an impact, but I just don’t know. He had a rookie year in a crap offense, was injured for a year, and then traded to the Lakers in a salary move. He’s obviously not good enough to crack that starting lineup, but the guy hasn’t really had the chance to play. As a side, he put up 40 a game in Spokaloo by having 3 guys set picks for him, and one guy passing the ball. He didn’t just forget how to make shots once he was drafted, but Fewie had that offense geared to him. And it worked….for a while.

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by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

They see him in practice though

And if he was any good there he’d be getting PT.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not bad-mouthing morrison

i don’t think i ever could. just noting he isn’t a great athlete, as neither was bird – doesn’t mean you can’t be a good basketball player, and conversely too.

this kid on butler is taller than adam, and he is fast, quick, mobile, and can jump out of the gym – plus he has morrison’s ball and shooting skills.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shelvin Mack went OFF

4 threes in the last 6 minutes.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't really have rules

But, when a team goes on a tear at the end of the season from bubble team to at-large selection, many times they feel like their work is done and they let off on the gas. Notre Dame certainly fit that profile, and I got it right. I was perfect on the day until Butler-UTEP. I had UTEP in the sweet 16. Shit.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had UTEP too

Butler just shot the lights out in the second half. Can’t predict stuff like that.

I had Vandy getting beat, but I thought Notre Dame would get out of the first round because I thought they’d shoot them out of their zone defense with Hansbrough and they couldn’t do it.

That’s the only one I’ve missed so far today though…and I didn’t have them in the Sixteen….

My brother owes me $50 on the Richmond – St Mary’s game. $25 for the win and $25 because they won by more than 6.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, it would have been a huge upset, imo

if richmond beat st. mary’s, despite the wacky seeding.

and you can predict that butler would shoot lights out second half since they couldn’t shoot the first half, which is the only reason utep was ahead. butler outclassed them by far. i thought utep would make it close for more than a half.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't predict a dude will hit 7-9 3's

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, if it wasn't him it would've been someone else

it was gonna even out somehow. we can’t pretend it was an upset when the 5 beat the 12, and they didn’t even need all those 3’s to do it.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn't an upset

It wouldn’t have really been an upset if UTEP had won. Shooting percentages don’t always even out over the course of a game. Butler most certainly could have continued to shoot however abysmally they shot in the first half. I think it’s pretty amazing that they shot that much better in the second half than the first.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, it's butler

not missouri, so they are going to make shots at some point. i don’t know the final numbers, but they’re probably in line with their season average.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

But their shooting percentages for each half aren't dependent events

You’re making it sound like every time a team shoots below its season average in the first half, they will shoot well enough in the second half to get it back up to the season average.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

there are games where a team just shoots bad, or good. but overall a team like butler is very consistent over the course of an entire game. if you have good shooters and are getting good shots and nothing is falling and yet you are still right there at half, then the other team should worry about the second half.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

But I’d say you can expect that Butler will shoot their season average in the second half, not something that will make their whole game average up to their season average.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

even then the other team goes down, though.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was UTEP above their average in the first half?

I didn’t get to watch the game, so I honestly don’t know. If they were shooting the lights out and Butler was cold as ice, and UTEP was still only up by 5, then yeah, I’d be worried.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't see the first half

only the second. but i think utep’s big guy caracter was like 6-7 in the first half, so that helps the teams avg. butler was giving him buckets, saving their fouls – butler’s center didn’t pick up a foul till like midway through the second half. smart move, i thought.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd be a millionaire

if you could predict when a team will shoot 65% in a half.

There’s no possible way you could have called that. They had one guy get on fire (season 3PFG% = 37% — he went 7-9) and two guys who are shooting less than 35% on threes for the season hit 4-6.

The first half played out like I thought the whole game would go. UTEP’s bigs holding down the paint on both ends and their guards getting out and defending shooters. Butler just hit at ton of shots in the second half. If they shoot 50% that half they probably lose.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 19, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

the game pretty much played out as i thought

except for the collapse of utep when butler got aggressive in the second half on defense – i thought utep could hang in there till the end, make it close. but after watching the second half there’s no doubt butler is just a far superior team and better coached and disciplined. cornell would probably beat utep.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

you're making too much out of their 3-pt. pct.

in the second half. that’s what butler does, they shoot. so if you are getting wide-open threes, you will have a high percentage. i think their overall shooting percentage in that half was probably closer to 50? the question is, why were they getting wide-open threes. the answer is, utep pressed and butler beat the press, took it down the lane, collapsed the d, and kicked it out. i would shoot better than 65% on college threes in horse.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I have.

You must be a genius!

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Mar 18, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

takes one to know one. amirite?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I called this Vanderbilt loss

Just kidding. I don’t care about March Madness at all.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 18, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did call it actually

and I am an SEC fan

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 18, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

as an alum, I foolishly believed they would make it to the sweet 16

You’d think the heartbreak would have made me cold by now, but no.

by OCCardsFan on Mar 18, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have all the SEC teams bowing out in the first round except UK

And I have them losing to Wisconsin in the sweet 16. I am an SEC fan as well.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I have Tenn losing to OSU in 2

Georgetown in 1, and losing in the championship in 1…..to Cornell (that $5 was burning a hole in my pocket)

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by STLRegalia on Mar 18, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard a lot of people saying vandy would lose.

But I love Vanderbilt.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 18, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

old Dunc not happy

Goold:
 Duncan on #Cardinals Rich Hill and Mitchell Boggs, both of whom pitched today: “Both guys have deliveries that are troublesome.” #stlcards 10 minutes ago via web

Boggs’ delivery is too frenzied, hurried. Hawksworth took step. Kinney pitches Fri. And Salas is officially (obviously) in hunt. #stlcards 27 minutes ago via web

Holliday update
 
JoeStrauss :
 This may explain much: SS Tyler Greene suffering from jammed thumb suffered about a week ago. Difficult time holding onto bat. #stlcards 42 minutes ago via web

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

which thumb though?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

the sore one, duh.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm looking for an excuse for his throwing errors

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought he was your boy?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm luke-warm on Greene

I’d like to see what he’s got but I’ve always thought he will be a poor major league hitter with a good glove, probably just about backup calibre.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 22, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

cubs great idea of the month

I have no words. I have… no words.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Thoughts

1) I always giggle when I see the word “erected”

2) This is pretty much what I’m going to be doing for my internship this summer. Apparently I have to photograph every ad around Safeco and compile them in a catalog for each division to use

3) Cubs motto for 2010: “Full speed ahead?”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Speaking of #1

Did you ever decide to be an extra in that porno?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

The more I thought about it, the less excited about it I became

At first it was, “Hey, this is an opportunity that’ll never come up again… Life experience!” but it turned into, “I… will never be able to in any sort of position of power if that happens”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

the local

sun-times

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems fitting

Their franchise has been speeding out of control for the last 3 years while everyone is ignoring it. They’re in over their heads and don’t realize it, yet deny that there are any issues.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs management sucks

but the small sample size of recent toyota mishaps is far outweighed by their reputation for good vehicles

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

bleerrrrrrrrrrrrn

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, that part caught my eye

like a carnival game

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

so in a few years Wrigley will turn into the Juice Box?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have plans for busch

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that could pay albert's contract

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

sadly we don't have the technology to make a dot float over the "I"

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

laser

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would love to see albert try and knock this I out.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, because i love when he's not TOO pull happy

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

trudat

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit yes we do

Mag lev baby and attach some strings

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

broken link dude

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

huh>?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

awww man

 Rule 5 lefty Ben Jukich being returned to Cincinnati. Couldn’t “find a fit” for a trade, said Mozeliak.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

via goold

http://twitter.com/dgoold/status/10691791172

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

story

http://bit.ly/aRzdm8

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I for one am shocked -

SHOCKED – that Jocketty couldn’t find common ground with the Cardinals.

STAB STAB STAB

by spants on Mar 18, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Considering the complete lack of visible talent in our minor league system

I would bet that no other GM could find one either.

It’s not like Jocketty needs Jukich — they have too many pitchers almost at this point.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would consider

Allen Craig and Joe Mather to be “invisible” talent. Nobody is going to want those guys due to their age despite their track records….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

jason werth just chuckled

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

Jukich is 27 and coming off a 4.10 ERA as a swingman in the International League; how can you get more invisible than that? The Cardinals have the guys to make a trade for someone like Jukich—Craig is certainly more valuable—they just don’t really have a reason to do so.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

We don’t have any B level prospects worth dealing for Jukich.

Why we selected him in the Rule V is beyond me.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that roger's son?

what bench you talking about – springfield?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

*insanely

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

at what level?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

A+/AA like Uggla some time ago.

question,are players eligible for the mlb rule V draft, also eligible for the AAA one?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

the general rule is that you draft up one level from the level of the roster on which

the player finished the year. e.g., if somebody finishes the year on the AA roster, he can be taken in the AAA draft.

so, generally no. technically a AA player would be eligible for both the ML and the AAA draft but the likelihood that a rule V eligible AA player would be interesting at a ML draft is very, very slender.

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by tom s. on Mar 19, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Koby Clemens?

Really? He hit a shitload of homers playing in a bandbox last year and hasn’t approached those numbers at any other level in his pro career. There’s a reason he was left unprotected. Word is he’s also an awful defensive catcher, which means he’d never have a shot in hell of playing for TLR.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you put a 22 year old Allen Craig in that park and that league

He tears it up too. Doesn’t make him a prospect, just a guy who had one good year.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 18, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait, wait

I meant “Ben Jukich isn’t worth dealing any of our B level prospects”, is that what you mean? In Sickels parlance Jukich is probably a C-.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i was confused by that exchange too

i certainly wouldn’t give up descalso, or even henley, for jukich. i’m sure we have plenty of guys cincy would take; we’re just not giving them up.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

really they didn't want stavino?

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn

we missed a great opportunity there. too bad they didn’t bite

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fear it means something much worse....


a bench role

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHA

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

he was like a rental car that you didn't really do much with

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good article on Chris Duncan

Here

As much of a whipping boy as he’s turned into, it’s a pretty sad story

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

where's his brother now?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indians?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 18, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

: ( I want him to do well

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by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that sucks.

I have Georgetown in the Elite 8, and they are losing to Ohio by 13 of all places.

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by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

this unlv-n. iowa is a good game

i struggled on that pick but went with unlv.

is georgetown in the second half?

and since we’re talking about the bullpen, how about this fien that toronto released – anybody know anything about him. i think he avg. about 10k/9 with 2w in AAA if i read it right.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's halftime now

They are down by 12.

I went with NIU for that one. I like their team.

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by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

wow

the team georgetown is losing to was the 9th seed in their own conference tourney. after hearing that, i’ll take at least a 24-pt. swing this half.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

we know a girl who went to OU, she's gorgeous

.

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by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

here we goes again

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by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

so Morgan Ensberg just tweeted me(yes directly) what the definition of wOBA and UZR, and other stuff meant, any link to the definition

that won’t scaring him away from more advance statistics?( I can’t fit all this in one tweet.)

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

not really understanding you

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

he could always take a class on it

http://www.sabermetrics101.com/

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's that dedicated to learning SABR stuff, I want to bring him over to this boat smoothly without

him deciding sabermetrics are a waste of time.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I could remember which sites were the best for me when I was learning

but I’m not sure which ones, I think I just absorbed all of them over time and eventually it stuck

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can read the definitions and that gives you a basic idea

but i think it was some of the beyond the boxscore articles that helped the most

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll just tell him they are stats that are used to determine the performance of a player,

along the lines of WAR but without getting too much into details.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok. i didn't understand if he was explaining to you or asking you to explain to him

funny either way. you should ask him for an autograph, make his day.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

or should I offer him one?

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

i’m picturing saber stars autographing their own cards at shows – what kind of stats would they put on the back of their cards?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

guest mod?

it’d be like the substitute teacher – watch out morgan!

DO IT!

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't he say in his blog

that st. louis had the best fans, by far? just tell him it’s mutual and basically all we do is discuss him and his career while lamenting that he never played here.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he'd buy it considering we had Scotty.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, well...nobody REALLY liked scotty?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I fear the reason you put a question mark in that comment.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The best way to bring over someone who’s not itching to jump in headfirst is to talk about it in bits and pieces, when relevant things come up. For example, if you’re talking about defense with him or something, talk about how they actually track where every ball is hit to estimate. Don’t throw too many acronyms at first, stick to applied uses of sabermetrics and if he’s really interested, you can feed him a bit at a time.

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by D.Szymborski on Mar 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

cody is going to be spoon-feeding morgan ensberg

this is going to go well.

cody, throw “penny pitch f/x” out there a lot.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

what's a gdm?

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

ensberg is earnest

(i think that was the word dan used)

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

so you're saying

Morgan Ensberg could become VEB’s greatest creation?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

his blog will become a VEB spin-off

he’ll become one of the “guys in the truck”

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, though he never played for the Cards

he’s one of the guys whom Aaron Miles saved from that robbery attempt. plus the Scott Rolen ASG replacement.

full circle

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was inevitable

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's probably best.

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I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't give up your gig, cody

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

get yourself invited out to his place

to be his mentor.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

take your pick

tough choice?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can't lose with either one

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by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had already exchanged a few e-mails with him, so I wrote a few paragraphs on the subject.

Getting people into sabermetrics isn’t that hard – the trick is communicating the principles in a context with which they’re familiar and to always respect contrary opinions. Once people realize that nobody’s going to jump down their throat (at least the writers with solid sabermetric credentials), it becomes a lot easier to take.

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by D.Szymborski on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It will probably also help that Ensberg did very well in sabermetric stats. I’ve had fun discussions with a few players that, well, would’ve liked to have come out better.

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by D.Szymborski on Mar 18, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

joe morgan loves you?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

we would like you to dumb it down so even a gdm can understand it

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by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm watching unlv online

anybody got a georgetown update – they take the lead yet?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

here's a stream

linky

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh, hell no

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

what?

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

the score

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's only 16 from the lead

so you’re saying there’s a chance?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Down 10 with 3:40 to go

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm liking their odds.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

is that game tonite, jd?

i think it’ll be good

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

the game link will be good at 8:45

linky

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Starts 15 (30?) minutes after the G’town game ends

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by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

11

wtf. at least nobody picked this game. of course if you have g’town going far, you’re f’ed.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apologies if anyone already linked this...

…but Mr. Matthew Leach is at work again, this time talking about Boggs. Here’s the link

A long time ago I used to work as a pitching instructor (wierd, considering I played OF in college… I guess I just saw a lot of pitching and could empathize with what they were going through out there…), and regardless of how good or bad the mechanics are, if they are inconsistent they will never lead to good results. Guys who are always fighting themselves out there probably won’t have much success and will just get more and more frustrated. Boggs has a big fastball that tails like mad. After watching the guy pitch, I think he can be really good out of the pen. Hopefully it works out that way.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 18, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't buy it, welley said the same thing last year.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

CRAAAAAP

Come on Georgetown, actually start playing now….

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by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

this is one heck of a game

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

that's not the big east

that’s georgetown. it’s always a mystery which georgetown shows up, the team that could win it all, or the one that could lose to ohio. mystery solved. but it really doesn’t reflect on the big east at all.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

that infuriated me

how do you send the same guy to the line on 4 consecutive possessions (or nearly that), in what amounted to maybe one solid call, one coin toss, and two very questionable calls. At that point, Reynolds realized Nova didn’t need to run an offense, he could just drive to the basket with his head down and get a call. To Reynolds’ credit, I guess, he did realize that and exploited it. But basketball is a real shitty game when the game is decided by 8 points scored in the last minutes that were completely undefended.

by mattyp on Mar 18, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

didn't see the game

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

sbn'd

but i know nova won, and suspect big east will win quite a few games in the tourney. some will undoubtedly be close.

as to mattyp’s point, i disagree with your last sentence. it’s why teams with good point guards (meaning they can also knock down free throws) do well in the ncaa’s. it is exactly what you are supposed to do, especially if down because it stops the clock. the other team has to either keep the ball out of his hands, or keep him from getting to the paint. but as i said, i didn’t see the game, so take that as you might.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It was brutality. Probably one foul was legit out of 4.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

did the other team try to take it to the rim at the end

or were they taking jumpers (or turning it over)? were they getting “fouled” and it wasn’t being called?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, the n. iowa game was great

that’s the one i went back and forth on the most. unfortunately, i ended on back would i should have ended on forth.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

this guy

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a great photo

he’s put himself in the running in the first half of spring, so now it’s up to him in the second half. i’d say he’s probably 50-50 whereas when spring started he probably had about a 5% chance, so he’s been doing work.

in the long run i think the kid has so much more upside, but for now salas could stick.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. the red baron

is looking a bit prescient, no?

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 19, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

and like him i’m (much) higher on the kid sanchez, but for our immediate purposes…

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by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

From Leach's blog:
He throws 90, 91 miles an hour.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Mar 19, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

takeaway from globe-dem notebook...

The Mets are really whiny.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

it's on, pond scum!

any idea who might pitch in that next mets game?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

"We’ll remember that," one unidentified player told the New York Post.

i dunno, this seems less whining and more New York Post reporters going to the Buster Olney school of sports journalism

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 18, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leach's tidbits

Probably posted up there, but oh well.

Among those headed to Viera tomorrow for the night half of the split-squad games: Kinney, Kyle McClellan, Lance Lynn, Jason LaRue, Matt Pagnozzi, Allen Craig, David Freese, Tyler Greene, Ruben Gotay, Pete Kozma, Jon Jay, Nick Stavinoha, Amaury Cazana Marti.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

what's with the marti stuff?

i thought it was kind of a joke. has he been working out with the team – was he even invited, or is he a crasher?

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Secret Weapon...

he’s actually ahead of Craig and Bombs.

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by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know, but when he pulled in, the entire pressbox tweeted that he'd arrived.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe this was during a game.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, the cape line was mine, pal

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, i am that, i guess

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know

i thought it was because it was strange, in a funny way

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

the best part

was how all the tweets found room for his full name

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is one of the worst previews I've ever read
The defending division champion Cardinals return, nearly intact, the team that blew through most of the regular season unchallenged last year. They’re also returning the team that did exactly as well as the Cubs did in the division series the year before — got swept by the Dodgers.

They spent $120 million to retain Matt Holliday for seven more seasons. Will this affect their ability to re-sign Albert Pujols when he becomes a free agent? Or will the Cardinals have their own version of the Alfonso Soriano deal in a couple of years? Only time will tell. Holliday helped carry the Cardinals after his acquisition, but does anyone really expect him to repeat his .353/.419/.604 performance? That’s a level he had only once in all his years in Colorado.

Otherwise St. Louis has one old/new face for their offense, Felipe Lopez, who hit well for them in part of the 2008 season, but who has a reputation as not a great clubhouse guy and whose postseason appearances total zero.

For the Cardinals, the real question is: will Chris Carpenter and Adam Wainwright both be as solid as they were last year and stay free of injury? If the answer to that is “yes”, St. Louis probably wins the division again. They’ve got Brad Penny on board this season — will he be the 5.69 ERA guy he was in Boston, or the one who put together six solid starts after he was traded to the Giants? And Ryan Franklin, after entering September 2009 with a 1.05 ERA, blew three saves that month with a 6.75 ERA and had the memorable meltdown in the division series. What will that do to him?

From Al at BCB

by vivaelpujols on Mar 18, 2010 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Felipe Lopez does suck in the playoffs though

He’s batting .000/.000/.000

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by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, they just needed some more jason marquis

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

this will be a test for the marquis de suck

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

y2s you need to archive this comment and at the end of the season when the nats win their division

with a 100-62 record we’ll see who’s laughing then.

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by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure the glossary covers other flavors of suck

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

or is it...

…NA/NA/NA?

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by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 19, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i read that when he posted it at bcb

guess you gotta play to your audience.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is brilliant

reads like it was written by a VEB’er, if any were so clever. i mean, on cincy, the bad: “…they voluntarily employ aaron miles.” and for stl, the bad, it’s that pujols will inevitably be traded for howard. haha

but this is my favorite:
Tony La Russa is an evil genius. He may come off like a dithering Italian animal rights activist, but he’s secretly calculating ways to double switch your ass back to the stone age. Plus c’mon, take a look at the rest of the managers in this division. La Russa would eat them for breakfast but they’re not made of tofu.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the part about skip and his five triples in a game.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

and on freese: “has a funny name”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this a guessing game?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

no since it's on the blog page.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's still hope gdm
If the National League Central was one of your family members, it’d be the oft-ignored doughy 45-year-old male uncle that everyone assumes is gay, only to shock and awe the clan on Thanksgiving when he shows up with a 22-year-old Norwegian model, a Porsche, and a fine Armani suit. And then he leaves before dessert because nobody put out his organic cranberry, mint and tangerine sauce.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is amazing.

I mean, the things you find amazing at 2 am while grading papers are, truly, amazing.

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 19, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

we respectfully disagree

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is as cool a blogfind as that woman's blog, who's friends with cj beatty

she reminded me of IHB

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still can't believe that beatty site.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

linki?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://cjbeatty.com

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

multitasking ignoring you

http://www.itsaswingandamiss.com/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's no crying

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I'm sweating through my eyes

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

somebody here said some movie was so boring

his eyes tried to eat themselves

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

she's like IHB from the future.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

specify next time.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

What position does this guy play?

I can’t find it…all of his photos are batting.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

OF

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

HE PLAYS FOR THE CARDINALS AND HE'S AWESOME

THAT’S ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW LMBO LMBO

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

...the guy is a little alarming via Tweet.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

he went to nc a&t to be near family and church

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHY AREN'T YOU USING CAPS?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

DON'T YELL AT CARDBALL!!!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 18, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't tell me what to do.

/gdm’d

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i whisper

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

sbn'd

something about a big stick

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWJSWICE

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

damn you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's like a fox news preview of the cardinals.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 18, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that's kind of the usual.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's funny

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

the sad part

is it’s more than FESPN will give us

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 18, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go grizzlies...

go get you some Lobo’s

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

is that montana?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya...they're not supposed to be here.....

they were down 20 at the half against Weber St. and Johnson dropped 34 of his 42 to send them dancing. They are getting out classed now. Twas a good 30 minutes though.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

who they playing?

i’m watching that tenn game. typical tenn team, fouling the other team’s 3-pointer when up by 4 with about 10 secs to play. unbelievable.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

(3) New Mexico v. (14) MT

48-39 NM with 10 left…it was tied 8 min ago.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

48-44 gotta game.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

1 pt now

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not talking aboot it....I walked away and it was a game

I watch and it’s a turnover. It’s the GOB’s getting me ready for the season.
I can’t even watch the Zag’s tomorrow because of my scheduled inventory…

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

the legend grows

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Goold quotes Future Redbirds!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 19, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's quoted

Amauri facts at least once before.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

heh heh heh

Amaury Marti is under the impression that he is playing in a Catholic slow-pitch softball league for his church

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

definitely

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad most of those were chuck norris jokes.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha, it says his average and OBP when he only has 7ABs.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

slugging too

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is his really even possible?
Marti is hitting .429 this spring, slugging .429 and reaching base with a .429 OBP in seven at-bats.

Come on math geeks……What combination of 7 AB’s gives this line…
this problem may also be solvable with mad internets skillz

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 singles?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 19, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Errr

3 singles

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 19, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

were you lurking this whole time?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm?

Just popped in

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really was that simple...

I better have another beer.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup.

That will help math skills.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I gave up math

15 years ago……a $5 calculator does all of my math anymore.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good choice.

Me too.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

now you just need something for your grammar.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i KEED.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I apparently just read over grammar fails now.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

his error got to me a little though.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

are you referring to a missed comma?

Or just my lazy, half drunk elipsessed speak?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was referring to this

15 years ago……a $5 calculator does all of my math anymore

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

rec

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

thank you.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that really a grammar fail or a vocabulary fail?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 19, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Freshman year

I apparently managed to do a friend’s Calc homework during one of the two times in my life that I have legitimately blacked out. The last thing I remember is finishing my drink that was basically vodka with a splash of lemonade and throwing down the red Solo cup in triumph…skip…I woke up very confused in a pink bed with an ungodly amount of pillows that was not my own.

From 3rd person and circumstantial evidence: I had walked ~3/4 a mile back to the dorm, and just kinda barged in. I made almost no sense talking but was slurring something about how I could do her homework. Much to everyone’s surprise, I somehow managed to pull my wits together to do integrals. Looking at it the next day, my handwriting was retarded but the math was actually right down to the +c’s.

My alcoholic self has never been so proud.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 19, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is very impressive.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

i love a rags to riches story

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Insta-ban for using the "M" word.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mad?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 19, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

you weren't given ban powers

i think it was discussed

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just because one confesses....

after many other’s were accused, does not make one honest.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

says you....

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

and i missed the part where he acquired ban powers

too bad you can’t watch the zags – i will be sweating it out doubly for you

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

we would like to remind you of clause 426

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

also

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was so rooting for arquimedes nieto

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

eureka!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

is this a matching donation comment spree?

for every comment we make, Monk will match the contribution

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 19, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

tenn is so boneheaded

i had them winning, but…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

They won.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tenn state 71-100

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

they lost.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well then add the state when Tennessee also played.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

but i wasn't talking about state - see below

and don’t listen to cody. you should know that.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well you hadn't posted below when I said that.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never called anyone anything.

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 19, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha, I was replying to cardball. sorry for the confusion.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

tenn fouled on a 3 pt. attempt when up 4 with 10 secs

i posted that a long time ago, and was referring to it.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

don't get on my nerves

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know

but they always try to lose

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

and that n. iowa kid hit that 3 from WAY downtown

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

YEAHHHHHHH!!!!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 19, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

ya...WTF was that last shot all aboot?

They had plenty of time and as soon as he squared up 7’ back of the three point line I thought,“well that’s a stoopid shot.”
I was wrong.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 19, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

northern iowa reminds me of drake a couple years ago

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

this comment thread mentioned Aaron Miles an awful lot.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 19, 2010 1:09 AM EDT reply actions  

you don't miss 'em till they're gone?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

please no Big Miles

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

cardinals

earlier in the day.
Sam Houston State coach

(Bob Rosato/SI)

Sam Houston State coach Bob Marlin showed up in a St. Louis Cardinals batting practice pullover. Is he already contemplating a trip to spring training? That doesn’t bode well for a first-round upset.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 4:33 AM EDT reply actions  

eh, that didn't work quite right

had a photo of the coach in the jersey here in new orleans arena – the writer said a whopping 500 on hand for the notre dame/old dominion game. there are kentucky fans in town, though. guess i’ll probably go on sat. to check them out since tickets are going to be given away.

the nd/od game, plus murray st/vandy, wash/marquette, texas/wf, and unlv/n iowa all came down to the wire, some even to OT. that’s five games, and i managed to lose them all. at least i didn’t have any of those losers winning another game.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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