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Offday Reset.

As far as artificially created division points go, an off day in the middle of March isn't a bad place to start, really.

It's not really accurate to call this the midpoint of camp, I realise; however, it does serve a storyline far too conveniently for facts to get in the way. Games have been going on for just about two weeks now, and there are about two more weeks to go. By the first of April, all that can be learned will likely have been, and the Cardinals will be ready to move forward into the 2010 baseball season. So yeah, we're going to call this the midpoint of camp, and I'm going to feel mighty fine about it.

So it's progress report time, boys and girls. There were really three main areas with significant decisions to be made coming into spring training: third base, the fifth starter's spot in the rotation, and the bullpen pretty much as a whole. Let's reset those questions and see where we stand now, shall we?

Star-divide

As I sit here on the morning of the 17th of March, I have a cup of tea in my hand, a hot cross bun in the other, and Bowie's "Young Americans" spinning happily away on the platter.  My baseball team is the favourite to win the National League Central Division. My car is paid off and there are three Schlafly Christmas Ales left in my refrigerator thanks to careful rationing. In short, life is actually pretty damned good this Wednesday morning. And it's thanks to this current quality of day that I can look at my favoured ballclub and say, "Yes, it is rather good to be a Cardinal fan right now. Thank you for asking."

Third Base

When camp opened, David Freese was seen as the near-prohibitive favourite to win the Cards' starting third base job. A month later, very little has changed on the Hot Corner frontier. Freese is still the favourite, with Joe Mather looking destined for a very handsome fourth outfielderdom. It's interesting Mather got his first start of spring at third base yesterday, but I don't know if it's anything more than interesting.

There are two wild cards in the third base race: Felipe Lopez and Freese himself. Lopez, signed just before camp got underway in earnest, isn't much shakes with the glove, but he has that veteranness so beloved by the manager and his bat plays better than virtually any other in the second spot in the lineup. The most sensible option, of course, is for Lopez to get his 300-400 plate appearances at a variety of positions, but if there's a spot on the diamond I could see La Russa just pencilling in 'Lopez' night after night, it's definitely third base.

The other wild card is Freese's performance this spring; or, rather, his lack thereof. The sample sizes are all still ridiculously small, but Freese hasn't exactly lit the world on fire this spring. His bat has been slow to come around, and more worrisome, he's made several errors in the field, where his reputation has mostly been built. Add in a couple of baserunning gaffes and it doesn't seem all that unfair to question if Mr. Freese has his head entirely in the competition.

Nonetheless, the job still appears to be his to lose. I think Freese will have to play himself out of playing time more than any other player will be playing into it.

Fifth Starter

Now this one is much more interesting, especially if one happens to have paid attention to the box score from yesterday's game. More specifically, the line just to the right of Garcia, J. The part where it says three innings, no runs, one hit, one walk, and seven strikeouts.

The fifth starter race has been seen as a two-man race for quite some time, and it's probably down to about one and a half now. Kyle McClellan has been his typical whelming self, while Rich Hill has struggled to throw strikes and find a consistent delivery. Sure, Hill could still end up winning the spot, but things aren't looking all that up for the man with the big curve.

On the other hand, with Garcia's ERA all the way down to 1.04 now for the spring and him looking stronger each time he takes the mound, one has to wonder if he might not be able to force his way back into consideration after all.

Here's something we definitely know: Ben Jukich is not getting a chance to make the Cardinals out of spring training. (Why they bothered to pick him in the first place if they don't mean to give him any innings I don't understand, but that's another issue entirely.) Ditto Blake Hawksworth, who has yet to see anything resembling a multi-inning starter's audition. The only man who seems to have even an outside chance of crashing K-Mac and Hilldawg's exclusive gathering is Garcia.

The Bullpen

And this is the one I'm really worried about. At the beginning of spring training, the lefties were set, the righties were pretty much wide open, but the closer's spot was fully settled. So hey, at least the tough situations were covered, right?

Well, from where I'm sitting right now, I don't see any reason to be at all excited about Ryan Franklin closing out games for the Cardinals in 2010. Nor am I certain Jason Motte really has turned any sort of corner, proverbial or otherwise.  Really, the one and only guy in relief I can honestly say I believe in right now is Trever Miller. He looks as if he's picked up right where he left off in 2009, when he was the best LOOGY in the game.

The possible departure of McClellan for the rotation only exacerbates the bullpen situation. Sure, I'm not a huge fan of K-Mac's stuff or the resulting peripherals, but the fact is he's been a very useful reliever for the Cards the last two years. If he heads for a starting gig, that's just one more hole to be filled.

Unfortunately, Mitchell Boggs hasn't exactly lit Roger Dean on fire yet in the 'pen, causing many of us to worry his late season performance was some sort of mass hallucination, brought on by thousands of undiagnosed brain tumours. Hawksworth is what he is; he doesn't strike out enough batters to be a feared presence, at least in my book. Motte has looked fine, but that whole thing about throwing more than one pitch is stil a little iffy for the Hoople. Eduardo Sanchez has unbelievable stuff, but I just don't see him as ready quite yet. Fernando Salas was a little shaky early on, but his last couple outings have been very, very impressive. I don't think he's beating anyone out just yet, but it might not be a bad idea to get him in your mind as the first guy up.

So really, what have we learned after all this time already in camp? Well, to be honest, not a whole hell of a lot.

  1. It's probably a good thing the front office didn't listen to us and our demented Ben Sheets lust.
  2. Ryan Ludwick looks better right now than he did at just about any point last year.
  3. Colby Rasmus actually is capable of taking a walk; you just have to get him in the right mood.
  4. Trever Miller with a bum shoulder can still kick your ass every day of the week.
  5. When Carpenter and Wainwright struggle, it's spring training. When Kyle Lohse struggles, brother, it ain't pretty.

And finally, the leaders so far in our Spring Surprise Sweepstakes are, on the hitting side, probably Allen Craig and Nick Stavinoha. There's no reason to be surprised by Craig's offensive acumen, of course, but he's been all kinds of impressive. As for Stavinoha, um, well, you say he has a high average with very little in the way of power or on-base skills? Well, I guess there's a reason we call him Fat Miles, eh?

On the pitching side, it's a little harder, honestly. Very few of the Cardinal pitchers have really stood out to this point. All the starters have been very up and down. Franklin has been non-ironically awful; most of his bullpen mates have failed to distinguish themselves with great performances. So to this point, the pitching surprise clubhouse leader would probably have to be Jaime Garcia. Sure, we knew he was probably pretty good if healthy, but his performance to this point has been very, very impressive. Impressive enough he just might win an award for someone.

The Baron's Playlsit for the 17th of March, 2010 -- Monet

"Make You Mine" - Best Coast

"The Last Good Night" - Parker & Lily

"Until Then" - Broadcast

"The End of the World" - Girls

"Bells Ring" - Mazzy Star

"Deep Sea Diver" - Grizzly Bear

"Manteo" - Love Language

"Love Can Destory Everything" - the Raveonettes

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How has Hawksworth looked?

I’d assumed he was destined for the pen anyway, and not getting a look as a starter. We just need too much help in the bullpen.

by sdrone on Mar 17, 2010 12:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Craig for president!

The man can hit

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 17, 2010 12:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If Craig were president

The Iranians would try breaking stuff outside, duck, then go back up third base.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 17, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

/politics

*

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 17, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really want the freeze to be good

But the more time goes on the more it seems he won’t be

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 17, 2010 12:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I'd rather Joey Bombsquad start at 3B

He seems like he would mesh with this bunch better than David Freese.

I would also like to see J. Garcia win that 5th starter spot. But alas, this will not happen. Thanks, Tony.

Bird is the word.

by The_teague on Mar 17, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

sweet

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

TMI!

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Mar 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

not that there's anything wrong with that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overshare!

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Mather!!

I got his autograph when I was in Jupiter. We actually had a conversation. So cute. So nice.

by spfldbird on Mar 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really want to watch those but I can't for some reason

Ever since I installed Flash CS4, Flash Player has been acting funny. I don’t know why. I’ve reinstalled, updated, etc.

I WANNA WATCH JOEY DAMMIT

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 17, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't watch them in Firefox either

I suspect it has something to do with Adblock Plus and the ads that MLB is now constantly showing before these videos.

In any case, I downloaded Chrome and the videos work fine in that.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call

firefox and ABP here too.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

we had to ditch chrome last week because it is very susceptible to virus

the damn thing just kept getting so many it nearly killed my crappy dells. dl iron & then look for it’s ad block & you’ll be a lot better off. you can still watch videos with adds in them unlike in firefox

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

We?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

his mom

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cold

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

you expected less?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

words hurt you know

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really wish gdm would have came back

from his sabbatical and posted everything in the royal we

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 18, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

we agree

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 19, 2010 5:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would love it if Joe started at 3B.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 17, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd Rather Start...

…Joey Bombs at third too, keep Allen Craig Craig Allen as OF#4, moove Lopez in and out of the line-up, and put Freese back in AAA until he hits his way out.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

if bombs is at third and freeze down,

who’s the other of’er? i think bombs makes most sense as 4th of’er for now, but if craig tears it up when given opportunities, he could hit himself into a starting job at 3b. i seem to recall albert played there (not comparing craig to albert, but albert also hit his way into a position)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

cage match!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Freese is hitting .281/.351/.344

So it’s not like he’s been terrible this spring. Not as hot as Craig and Mather, but let’s keep the SSS warnings in place before we start doubting Freese too much.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

right on...

I think it’s the fielding that is making me nervous about him, but I suppose you can chalk that up to not having played baseball for a few months

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly...

The guy has shown plenty of power over the last couple of years in Memphis. That’s all that is missing from his line so far this spring. If he hits .280+ this season (Big IF) I have no doubt that he would OPS .800+.

If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.

by cardzfanbub on Mar 17, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, i'm ready to trade him, trade him NOW!

especially if he might bring us some pen help. we have Bombs now, we don’t need no stinkin freeze

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

If he had that line over a full MLB season

and cut out the fielding gaffes (which seems likely, I think it’s just early-season/bigtime jitters) he’ll be about an average third baseman. Also, given his pop, if he averages .280 and OBPs .350 he’ll probably be SLGing in the .400s, and actually be quite good.

I haven’t watched any of spring training thus far, but I’m not worried yet. It’s just a few dozen ABs people, during a particularly meaningless phase of the year, in games which have been shown historically to have very little to do with actual MLB performance. Chill*.

*pun intended…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 18, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Surprise

I’m pleasantly surprised that they have kept Shelby around for so long. Obviously he is not auditioning for a role, but I like the handling so far.

by OCCardsFan on Mar 17, 2010 12:21 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta have carp instill the right attitude while we have the chance

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

read: the fear

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

who else is really disappointed by Tyler Greene?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone

But atleast he can field the ss position well

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 17, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not if you include

throwing the ball in the job description of a short stop.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He's fast...he can just sprint it over there and flip it

No throwing involved.

Problem solved!!!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's better at it than freese

OMG the left side of our infield can’t throw to first! Where are you Brendan Ryan?

The bible declares an eye for an eye, so, let us now take our vengeance on this murderous ocean. . . You won't be hurting anyone anymore

by Buddhasillegitimatechild38 on Mar 17, 2010 12:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

probably best to keep apu away from first for awhile

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, Boog's toughest adjustment last year

was not-killing Albert. he took all year to get there. I’m hoping he gets back in form, and quick.

but without harming the other eight fingers.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear lord, yes. The combination of the wild men for the Left and AP's elbow is worrisome. . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Mar 18, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's got two more weeks to show something.

I really thought this spring he would blossom, sort of like Ryan last year. He still may and I’ll root for the guy but he needs to get it going.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think it's too late to make the team out of camp

he had a slight chance at the outset, but i think it’s evaporated

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've never really been appointed by Green Tea

so it would hard for me to be disappointed by him

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's a decent player but not very impressive

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't hate him like i hate koozy, but i've never been a fan

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

This guy...

Greene is a pretty damn fine SS who can play other positions too (which you’d think all SS would be able to do, but still…), and he seems like one athletic, fast-twitch muscle. BUT… the dude cannot hit. Like, at all. He’s got no real discipline and does not make much contact. It’s a damn, crying shame.

VivaElBirdos: Celebrating glorious mustaches since 2009

by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 17, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found this randomly today

It’s not actually about Stan Musial, but it’s called “Stan the Man” and it’s by two awesome guys and it’s awesome. So that’s fun.
Also, here’s a decently interesting article about Ubaldo Jimenez, from Yahoo of all places. Usually they write a lot of fluff but this was a little more than fluff.
It’s refreshing that Craig, Mather, and Freese all at least look like decent options, even if none of them seems like a shoe-in or a perfect option at all.
The better Garcia does, the harder it is to say to myself “Tommy John surgery, shouldn’t be so hard on the arm” etc.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 12:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Passan

Saw the Jiminez article this morning. Jeff Passan is usually a jackass but I liked that piece. Ubaldo has improved each of the last 3 seasons in all areas that I see.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I had no idea it was Passan. Didn't even realize until you guys pointed it out.

Which is really weird. If I had realized it was him I might not have read it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

How dare you matty....

How dare you link to an article by the * in chief without a disclaimer?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

He used some sort of mind control to keep me from realizing it was him all along!

That bastard!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice....

“Only four pitchers recorded more than 50 percent groundballs and eight-plus strikeouts per nine innings: AL Cy Young runner-up Felix Hernandez(notes), NL Cy Young contender Adam Wainwright(notes), Florida ace Josh Johnson(notes) and Jimenez. "

And I have Wainy and Josh Johnson on my VEB Fantasy team. Oh, and some guy named Pujols too. And some guy named Longoria.

:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHUT UP.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't Worry....

…I have Franklin too.

:=8/

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey moooooooocow

it’s on!

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

easy for you to say

he has both the colonel and the marquis!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dropped the colonel yo

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he's a nobleman?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

well then my team is your archnemesis!

mwuhahahaha

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

you get a refund?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah, just got Thornton instead

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

standard answer from the past regarding fantasy teams

nobody cares about your fantasy team. *

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Mar 17, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

You will

when I do my Triumphant MooCow Dance of Victory and post it on UTube!
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

You need to create a website called

MooTube

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

that should be your youtube channel

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't care about your fantasy team

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't say Craig

looks like “not a perfect option at all.” For the role envisioned — 4th or 5th OF and RH pinch-hitter — he has done as well as we could have hoped in camp. He might be our best hitter, apart from Rasmus, in ST.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 17, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just meant if he somehow ends up at third

Which would mean some sort of disaster happened or he suddenly wowed everyone with his defense, and actually got to play third.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pertinent paragraph(s) excerpt
DeWitt pledged to spend more heavily in this year’s amateur draft even after paying above slot to last year’s first-round pick, Texas high school pitcher Shelby Miller. The Cardinals enjoy two supplemental picks after offering arbitration to free agent losses Joel Piñeiro and DeRosa, and DeWitt believes the team must move aggressively to counter the inclusion of Brett Wallace, Chris Perez, Jess Todd, Clayton Mortensen and Shane Peterson in last summer’s trades. “We’re going to spend a bunch of money in the draft,” DeWitt said. “We have two extra picks. That’s great but it’s costly, too.”

This strikes me as awesome news.

Hey Bill, this is the part where you say, “Oh and we’re also going to spend a lot of money resigning Albert Pujols, too.”

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mmm

Ranaudo with his injury problems + Boras could mean he falls easily, granted he’d have to come back throwing 98 to show he is healthy. Taillon could pull a Porcello too with the HS + Boras factor.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 17, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

in that article

strauss says cards are trying to work out a trade with reds for jukich – what (who) is that going to involve?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert Pujols

(Buster Olney’s sources say)

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

straight-up?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously though

i’ve never seen the guy pitch. how much do the cards like him – are we talking lugo- or are we talking sugar shane-like?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

stav

def not a big leaguer

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

No --

the Cardinals also are throwing in Fernando Salas.

by Michael_68_1999 on Mar 17, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems fair!

It’s not like we’ll need any righty relievers ever.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stavinoha?

Just keeping that one going.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just realized something

On Friday, the Cardinals are playing two split squad games and both of them are on MLB.tv!

It’s the first doubleheader of the new year, except with no overlap in lineups!

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll be Flippin' back & Forth...

…between those games & the Tourney (since I took 1/2 days Thurs and Fri) !!
:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

This MLB.tv thing

Are games blacked out if you life in St. Louis?

I just used it for the playoffs (playoff?) last year and don’t know how the regular season package works…

by 643 on Mar 17, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno

I guess I’m asking about both ST and the regular season, then.

I asked my lawyer to take a look at the MLB.tv website, but he couldn’t make heads nor tails of it.

by 643 on Mar 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i find that hilarious

having your lawyer take a look.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe its just his friend.

you wouldn’t believe how many of my friends have a “lawyer”

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 17, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, like in fear and loating in las vegas

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a pretty cool set up.....

I’ve known my lawyer since we were ten…toss him a quarter, and he’s on the clock.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

do some posters on VEB count as friends?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

sure

why not

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Joking about the lawyer.

by 643 on Mar 17, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the regular season, yes

I think in Spring Training, there are no blackouts.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit

How can I watch games without buying cable or dish?

/cheap.

by 643 on Mar 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me 2

But I plunked down the moolah this year

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why people who live in the viewing area

would want MLB.tv? Is it because you don’t have cable? If so, I doubt getting a cheap cable plan would be much more expensive. I guess if you don’t have a TV that could be more problematic. All I know is that I’d much rather watch a TV broadcast than an MLB.tv stream. Or maybe these are all people just wanting MLB.tv so they can watch games on their computers at work, in which case I fully approve.

by mattyp on Mar 17, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

$100 for mlb.tv (if you don't get premium)

but at LEAST $30/mo for basic cable * 6 mos of games. mlb.tv saves you like 50%. but I agree, its much better to watch it on TV. the only reason I didn’t get EI this year is because I’m always at work.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 17, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

HFS

®

and they are still going bankrupt

EI took a big jump for me this year & DTV wouldn’t tell me why so that’s one reason why i’m not getting it yet

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kept a schedule of ST broadcasts

Friday’s game is supposed to be on FSM as well as MLB Network. Saturday’s game is listed on KSDK. For next week, FSM is listed as showing the games Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday (and ESPN also for the Thursday game). Hope this info is still correct.

by CRay on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy St. Patrick's Day to you and yours!

Have one of these:

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 17, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks jd

I am so ready for 5 o’clock!

by swmofan on Mar 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

...or three hours.

Sigh.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

ecto cooler?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's what she said

….actually even though food coloring has no alleged taste…green beer grosses me the fuck out.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 17, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it would, but I got over it

I never could get around to eating that green ketchup they came out with a few years ago, or colored bread

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 17, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

colored bread?

that’s mold, JD. don’t eat it

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

would colored whitebread

be some sort of racist oxymoron?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

An Irish bar I used to frequent in Co. Springs

had tomato beer as one of its regular items. We’d order it occasionally; tomato juice (or V8, can’t remember what they used) in so-so draft beer tasted pretty good in the 70’s and 80’s. The one time I never ordered it was on St. Patty’s Day, when all their draft beer was green. Can’t imagine what Bud Light (Coors Light, or Miller Lite), tomato juice and green food coloring would taste like.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is a mexican drink

beer, tomato juice and chili (spice)

i believe AB makes a canned version of this you might see in grocery stores

by FunkeeC on Mar 17, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you talking about a michelada?

My dad loves those. And he’s not even Mexican.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

SI!

and yes my father too enjoyed them when i told him about them. he loves tomato based drinks

i saw them made on the beaches in mexico when i was there in 2008. hate tomato myself but like to share the knowledge

by FunkeeC on Mar 17, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Coolness

Apparently the recipe varies a lot. I think my dad would sometimes throw Maggi or Tabasco in there.
Visiting some friends in Houston recently, I was introduced to the favorite drink of a Mexican guy we went to college with. It was Squirt, tequila, lime, and salt. And it was awesome.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

My hot summer day fave beer drink

starts with a 6-pack of Mexican beer (usually Corona) poured into a pitcher (use a glass one if you can), a 12 oz. can of limeade (let it sit out for a bit to get partially unfrozen), half a lime squeezed into the mix, and then slice the other half into the pitcher so they float. This is so much better than BL, or any of those other lime-flavored beers.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds pretty yummy

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's positively addicting.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is "I have way to much shit to do"

a reason not to drink, or a reason to drink? On St. Patty’s Day, it’s gotta be the latter, right?

by mattyp on Mar 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that St. Patty's is on a Wednesday this year sucks

I have to tone it down a little tonight if I want to be productive tomorrow. The fact that March Madness also starts tomorrow is not a good omen for my productivity tomorrow……..

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 17, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ick

it looks like Listermint…
:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually,

since spring is finally here, I think I’ll change my antifreeze later.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yay, it's almost 70 degrees here in so. Colorado

today and tomorrow. Boo, it’s supposed to snow on Friday! C’mon, Spring!

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

we get snow sat night & sunday. i hate march, 60 & sunny one day, the next it's 20 & snow

f’in ohio

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

f'in gdm in f'in ohio

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

f me

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

f

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I stuck to the Killians, Kilkenny, Guinness, and Smithwicks today.

No green miller/bud today.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 18, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

hard to go wrong with the classics

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

i stay in and read joyce on st. patrick's day

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can spell antidisestablishmentarianism

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

i can spell onomatopoeia

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

because you watch tv?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

because firefox spell check

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because Hey Arnold rules.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 18, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Craig still technically plays 3rd, right?

I mean, if given the opportunity? He’s played there before? With his continued success with the offense, why exactly doesn’t he get considered with Freese and Mather? Is his defense just that bad?

by A1R3Z on Mar 17, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

here's a question. does Motte's second pitch exist?

or is it like his friend he talks to on the mound?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 PM EDT reply actions  

well, there was a sighting the other day

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how his knuckler looks?

that would be awesome.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

he'd probably giggle before he threw it though

and we’re not allowed to tip pitches

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am not as down as Hill as it seems others are

This is a guy that has had walk rates of 8.24 and 6.24 per 9 the last 2 seasons. Now it is a small sample (4.0 IP) but he only has 1 walk so far this spring. To me he is already showing much better command than previous seasons. Mix in a couple swinging strikes with the curve and he doesn’t look so bad.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 17, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, but I think the outlook on Hill is a lot less sanguine when you

break it down by pitch type. Sure, he’s still got the curve and there may be some indication his walks will be down, but has he shown any capability to throw another pitch at a big league level? I haven’t seen much of ST, but I don’t think he has. Can’t be a major league pitcher with only one major league pitch (preemptive "tell that to ______. I’m just saying that as a general rule)

by mattyp on Mar 17, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell that to mariano rivera

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 pitches

the super nasty cutter, and the ridiculously super nasty cutter.

by mattyp on Mar 17, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

point conceded

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've still got my chips on Hill

But Garcia’s making it tough. (One of them will be the long-man is my prediction).

And about Boggs: his results weren’t great late last year, but his stuff was, so it was an illusion to a degree. I’ve long been a Boggs believer, though, and think he’ll harness things and have a big season.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm finding it hard to decide between Hill and Garcia

to me it’s starting to look like Hill needs more time and that Garcia is ready

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Garcia's ready, too

Doesn’t make much sense to me to put wear on his arm at AAA when he’s capable of performing in the bigs.

But I don’t know nothin’.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

does that mean you know

something?

it seems the argument is to have Garcia in the minors so he doesn’t get hurt, but he could get hurt just as easily in the minors, eh?

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's not exactly that

it’s because in the minors his innings can be easily monitored/regulated because you’re not necessarily trying to win the game, whereas in the bigs this would be impossible to do without affecting the whole pen and throwing everything out of whack.

in memphis if he’s thrown a lot of pitches by the third, no problem, take him out, but in st. lou this is a problem.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

JAMIE GARCIA

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

you have to spell it correctly, though

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

JAIME GARCIA

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

i hope to god

that garcia is not the long man. that’s about the worst thing you could do for him

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just looked up his player page on here

to see how many innings he got with the cards in 2008 (16, with one start), and garcia is listed as 6-2, 230 – i don’t remember him looking 230.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

because

not pitching for 2 weeks at a time is not what he needs. i’d rather him be at AAA

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not sure I understand this sentiment

Did it not work out well with Waino? He started off 2006 as a middle innings multiple innings guy before he became the Beltran Buckler.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Mar 17, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

does he mean post-surgery?

not to mention, Waino started as a starter.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

post surgery, his innings need monitoring, which is why its likely he will start in AAA

not sure how having him watched and coached by the major league staff is “the worst thing you could do to him”

and Waino was in the mix (just like jaime) for a 5th spot in spring but didnt start at all in the majors that year i dont believe

by FunkeeC on Mar 17, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

zero starts in

61 games

If you see a guy open the car door for his girlfriend, either the car is new or the girlfriend is.

by cardzfanbub on Mar 17, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

not as a long man

remember brad thompson’s role last year? i want garcia getting more work than that

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he should be the fifth start to start the season

and watch him win ROY

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

good off day news?

you know you want to click me

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

or not

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone's stealing your credit cards

hold on a second.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

that last charge isn't mine

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't think

you would want an autographed ron jeremy butt plug…

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean another one

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Monday Split Squad Game

I think this will be a good indication of whether Garcia has any chance of pushing his way into the 5th starter slot. Matthew Leach blogged before yesterday’s game that TLR is considering starting Shelby Miller in the ‘Stros game. If yesterday’s performance has given Garcia a shot at 5th starter then wouldn’t it make sense for him to start the second half of the split squad game.

by realbrit70 on Mar 17, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

caption contest

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/photos/offday-reset/655712

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

if that's garcia

he’s so unfazed.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's the hal mcrae way he wears his cap

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

whoa, wait a minute

am I imagining what Ryan Ludwick did to the back of his head

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

No... Ludwick...

Ludwick! Thats enough dancing for now… Eww

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Mar 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy St Pat's Day!

I’m too the point where I’m losing a lot of confidence in having Freese start at third base. I think he needs to work some things out in AAA instead of just being handed the job. We need to see if Craig or Mather can be our third baseman, because they are hitting quite well and have a lot of potential. If they stink it up that bad defensively, Lopez can play third base and I think his defense is best there, or at 2B platooning with Skip.

I think they should just let Garcia start the year as the 5th starter, it doesn’t look like Hill will be ready by opening day (he can work on his control in AAA) and McClellan is needed in the bullpen.

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

It's spring, so I'm not sure Freese won't make the roster even if he's just awful.

The same might be true for TGreene.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, they need to see what the guy can do at the MLB level

I guess maybe they should just platton 3B for the first couple of months of the season. It looks like Mather and Craig will make the team, and Larussa likes to play guys all over the place, so it will be interesting to see how good they are at the hot corner.

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

freeze by far has the upper hand at 3b

because it’s his only position, and thus his only value, whereas craig and mather, though either could play third, could also be replacements for luddy (one day, yadi2). since we don’t have to pigeonhole them, imo this makes them perfectly suited for the cards, since either could fill either of two possible (potential) “holes”.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed on the platoon

I could care less who had the official 3B title as long as Mather and Craig get enough PAs. Freeze could be useful as a power bench bat when not starting.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Mar 17, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we just have to see if he's any good

I think Mather and Craig can hit, but how good are their defense compared to Freese? if he’s going to be stellar on defense, or even above average, he should probably start there. but if he’s only slightly better than Craig or Mather there, then I’m not sure if he has much of a place on the team unless I’m underestimating his hitting….

/conjecture

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Beware the temptation to

make up your mind only halfway through ST. A lot can happen in the next two weeks.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 17, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

very true

the second half of ST is much more important than the first half

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

there's a saying, and i'm pissed at myself for not being able to remember it

about not drawing any conlusions about performances by players in March & September. the logic is one is spring training & everyone is just getting their work in. and the other is during expanded rosters & teams out of the races have a lot of kids up just to see what they can do.

anway, i don’t think this applies to Mr Freeze. i think that DUI did a number on his head & he’s trying to hard & cracking under the pressure. we don’t need any more headcases who crack, so i think MO should do him a solid & trade him for some bullpen help. who that would be & just how good said pitcher would be i’m not sure. but with a healthy Joey Bombs, i think we’re golden at 3rd for now. the pen freaks me the F out right now more than anything. like RB i trust no one out there but Miller

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be fairly flabbergasted if they traded freeze

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd be happy, but yeah, it's prob not gonna happy

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh that man stew of yesteryear
Cardinals Classics: Best of ’09 premieres Friday at 11 a.m. with the Cardinals 15-inning win over the Dodgers from July 29. It will be followed at 11:30 by the Cardinals Spring Training Report and at noon by a live telecast of the Cardinals-Marlins exhibition, the first of five Spring Training games on FOX Sports Midwest.

 Each Cardinals Classic game will be condensed to 30 minutes from the original FOX Sports Midwest telecast. A brief description of each Cardinals Classic game and list of air dates folllow [sic].

http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/954768.html

How will they condense that into 30 minutes?

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

there were only so many agonizing innings of LOBsters

they all kind of blurred together. Just show Razzum’s broken bat single off of Broxton, fast forward a bit, flash an image of a Hawk with a knife, then the Maching’s winnar. Easy peezy lemon squeezie

"...and pujols has given st louis the lead"
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by tgreenfield on Mar 17, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

that would cut out so much Boog

I’m against it

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

How come I can find pages for Salas and Samuel at Rotoworld

but not for Sanchez? How long has this guy been in our organization now? This is his 5th year in the organization, and rotoworld has no idea who he is.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

fixed

rotoworld has no idea

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, rotoworld was on the ball with their unsubstantiated Mark Mulder rumors.

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"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

timely and to the minute!

every day!

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

very cool

Matthew Leach mentioned that he’s listening to My Bloody Valentine, is this a page out of the baron’s playbook?

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100317&content_id=8815920&vkey=news_stl&fext=.jsp&c_id=stl&partnerId=rss_stl

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

his blog has regular music lists

so who stole from whom

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe it was just a coincidence?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

Leach has done that for quite some time.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

but My Bloody Valentine is one of my favorite bands of all time, so that helps

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well taste is subjective no?

I haven’t seen either post a Rammstein song yet.

Hey Ump!

by paposse on Mar 17, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baron has mentioned seeing Rammstein however

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

matt leach has musical tastes close to my heart.

he’s a few years older than i am but we mostly grew up at the same time and took to the same stuff. i more often see myself in matt’s picks than aaron’s – which is not a dig on aaron’s musical taste, just an acknowledgement that I’m a product of my era.

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by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

this

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm a product of a broken trojan

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by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stafon Johnson's son?

You’re kind of old, but hey, whatever

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by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't believe i read nearly that entire article

trying to figure out what the hell you’re talking about.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm the product of the birth control pills not working

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm the product of two people gettin freaky on their honeymoon

I wasn’t planned, but they weren’t exactly trying to not have a kid

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 18, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

My Favorite Band of All Time!!!!

:=8D

Oh, and the Jesus & Mary Chain. And Gang of Four. And Killing Joke. And Joy Division. And Sonic Youth. And Unsane. And….

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 17, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

MBV is amazing

at first I just liked Loveless, but then I discovered their EPs, which sound a lot different and heavier than Loveless. Basically I dig 99% of their songs. Have you heard anything about a new release? or will it take longer than Chinese Democracy lol

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got to see them Live

in Richmond last year – they were awesome – and I do really mean I was in awe!
:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 18, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, I hear they are really really freaking loud

and this comes from a guy who goes to metal shows on a regular basis. I wish I could have afforded to go (well, except that they were at the aragon ballroom here, not the best venue)

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pete Parise

Baron…

I think Parise atleast deserves a mention in the bullpen write-up. He has gotten a few inning and looked good for some of those. I am not saying he starts the season in the show, but he will see time this year.

by BigJawnMize on Mar 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

While we're taking stock

I took a look at some of the departed future redbirds from last year’s trades.

Wallace has one hit in 9 ABs, no walks, four strikeouts.

Mortenson remains hittable.

Etc.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

perez closed for injuns yesterday

two walks, two k’s, no runs

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm excited
In short, the Cardinals look to have a very strong ensemble of position players even once you get past Pujols, much better than it has been over the past few seasons.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

you do know vep wrote that article, right?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually didn't

why didn’t he give Trev some props??

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's the best LOOGY in the game though!

lol

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think we're going to see a major regression from Miller this year

and Reyes will end the season as our most reliable LOOGY (just a hunch). Miller’s been pretty meh his whole career and I’m just not quite sure whether whatever he did last year to be an absolute shutdown lefty is sustainable or just an artefact of a decent year and a small sample size.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 18, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reyes is kinda underrated I think

I expect him to have a good year this season… you could be right about Miller, he’s gettin a little old

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was tempted to say something about Penny Pitch F/X in my comment (I'm Nick C)

But I was afraid of becoming the culprit. Or was the perpetrator found? That thread is so gigantic I am afraid to open it.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Mar 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

cody confessed

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

only after i told everyone he did it a few times

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by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the update

I did think that it was hilarious. Not often do I laugh out loud reading blog comments but the placement and timing of that was perfect.

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by indakind on Mar 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Mar 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Natinals release Elijah

Dukes was going to be their starting RF… wonder what retarded crap he pulled this time.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT reply actions  

it said the nats claim it was nothing off-field

yet at the same time it came just about a week after they allowed him his freedom (he had a babysitter before, kind of like the cowboys tried with pacman)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently he still has a minor league option year left, too

This has to have been behavior-related.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

could the cubs possibly be interested in a talented if troubled rightfielder?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

seen on twit

 dgoold Writing story about hitter who’s described as having “electric hands” a “super-live (bat) barrel” “magic” “quiet class”. Guesses? #stlcards 37 minutes ago via web

 BJRains @dgoold Allen Craig? 34 minutes ago via web in reply to dgoold

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Craig?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

no clue

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

heh

I didn’t even see the BJRains guess there

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll guess stav

ok, i’m going with craig, with bombs and klobby to place and show, respectively

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

bombs was my first guess

but then I realized he’s not all that quiet

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

"quiet dignity"

as long as his dignity is quiet, he doesn’t have to be

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

now we are splitting hairs

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh that reminds me

now that he’s back, I have to update the glossary with all the Jimmy memes.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

dgoold
  
La Russa on this player & other righthanded hitters for bench: “They all play first base and you don’t want any of them to play first base.”

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, cross colby off my list

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

they're having a slapfight now

 BJRains @dgoold seriously, this much hype for one story? Must be epic…. 25 minutes ago via web in reply to dgoold

 dgoold @BJRains Pot. Kettle. 24 minutes ago via web in reply to BJRains

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

keep us posted

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

dgoold placated him

it’s Allen Craig, btw.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

shocker

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

jay.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

CJ Beatty... not in all caps!

http://www.itsaswingandamiss.com/2010/03/17/inside-spring-training-with-c-j-beatty/

This is a cool blog, too.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

ok, now i know more about him

went to north carolina a&t to be close to family and church…but what position does he play? i’m going to assume OF.

he tweeted that north carolina should get ncaa probation for only beating william and mary by 2.

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

so does it look like boog will be able to start on opening day?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:09 PM EDT reply actions  

it's a helluva drug

must be a texas thing

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep

Managers, owners……..

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 17, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

he seems more like he's on acid sometimes

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

because of ron washington

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

why would they care what coaches do or don't snort, smoke, inhale, inject?

unless he was falling down drunk or making the most crazy double switches & pitching changes i don’t see why a team would care what recreational drugs a coach did.

oh & this crap about him only doing it once i bullshit. you don’t try blow just once. you try it a few times a night, then a few more time the next night, and a few more time,,,, i think i’ve said too much

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by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

someone needs to drug test ed wade.

but seriously, who cares if a coach wants to do cocaine? as long as he’s not driving the team bus, only his employer should care.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 18, 2010 3:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

i know you can't get hired if you fail a drug test,

can you also get fired if you fail one? i didn’t think they could do that. maybe i’m thinking of alcohol. yeah, i think i am

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

well, i think it's tought when you have guys like hamilton on the team

and you can just snort away.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta say

If I’m the owner of a near billion dollar business where a player’s individual contract can exceed 100M, I care very much whether my manager is messed up on drugs to any degree.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 18, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, i can't believe he's still manager

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

You can't work the hot dog stand...

at the circus anymore without getting tested. Reduces insurance premiums…

Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word

by guayzimi on Mar 17, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

suddenly reaction to that Hamilton relapse has a different context

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

washington's a pusher

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

y'know, a quote that goes "I've always admired Ronnie Washington's energy"

might not be the best character reference…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's BBTN

I think that’s Valentine

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He apologizes for cocaine abuse?

How exactly does one do that?

“I did Cocaine, my bad guys”

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 17, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol!

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

the only way him keeping his job

makes any sense is if a hooker/stripper was involved and the front office understood.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I need to settle a dispute with a colleague...

If Pujols doesn’t extend by the end of this year, he’ll be traded in the off-season, right? They don’t mess around and risk losing him or being low-balled at the 2011 deadline… Has anyone seen any informed opinion on this?

Six years was the hope of the herd;
Unanimous but for one who demurred;
A prescient young man;
By the name of stlfan;
He knew Scotty would have the last word

by guayzimi on Mar 17, 2010 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

huh?

better check with olney.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

It depends on the prospects for the season.

I’d actually tend to agree with your colleague- if we’re division favorites, the FO is probably more interested in a WS run than trading albert in the offseason and drawing the ire of millions.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 17, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not without Albert's approval....

after he reaches minnimum playing time for a years service time this year, he will be a 10 and 5 guy, meaning automatic NTC.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

which means we would have even less leverage in getting the best deal

so no, i dont see us trading him, even if it means risking losing him for nothing…

a deal will get done w/ albert

by FunkeeC on Mar 17, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

it just makes the phils rumor all the more ridiculous

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

there was no rumor to be honest

other than a report that 2 people in Philly’s FO talked about possibly a trade

anything else was not in the original story, its just a bad game of telephone

by FunkeeC on Mar 17, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, it's almost a rumor?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, obviously we'll bench him before he reaches that threshold

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

hard to say

but he has NTC after the season. so it’s up to him

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

no

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just finalized my internship with the Mariners for the summet

See you bitches over at Lookout Landing

…kidding! Now I gotta go and spend $120 on MLB.tv just so I can watch the Cards

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 17, 2010 4:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Nice!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 17, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

congrats

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Mar 17, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Congrats dude!

Get them to trade Ackley to us please?

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In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 17, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

tampering!

but now we can claim to be privy to internal discussions! think of the power.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have a source in seattle?

brilliant!

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

now we twitter!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pffft

Tampering charges are for those who get caught :D.

Felix Hernandez for Nick Stavinoha would be nice also

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 17, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

if he can stick at 2b that bat will look pretty good

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed, wasn't he a SS in college?

I think he can adjust easily. Plus, when you have Jack Wilson and/or Brendan Ryan, it should be easier.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 17, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

think he was pretty much an of'er

but arm issues moved him to 1st

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was moved to OF from SS

but his coach at NC said he would be great at 2nd.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 17, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

chone has that covered till he's ready

then they can move chone back to third and lopez either to first or dh, depending on what they got at the time.

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chone is at 3b.

Their only option at 2nd is Jose Lopez, who isn’t bad offensively, but isn’t great defensively.

DH they have Griffey or Bradley depending, and at 1st they still have Casey Kotchman. Bradley may play in the OF, so i guess he can DH, but if he is going to learn 2b, throw him into the fire. Don’t get him used to one position then move him to another.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 17, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're a bit behind

chone and lopex were swapped out (as i predicted after his signing chone would play second, of course thinking they’d resign beltre). and of course i’m not talking about this year, i’m talking a couple years down the line, when ackley arrives.

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by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

that;s awesome man

enjoy

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by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

the summet? when did seattle turn into a hot bed for Shakespeare?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

When SBN turned on commenting for iPhones, apparently

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

hmm...so we can get the scuttlebutt

without any trail left on the office computer.

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by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Blackberry's don't have that problem

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by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think it needs to run a script to enact the live bloggin

or something like that

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

when i'm at work

firefox always asks me if i want to install missing plugins. i can’t, but i’m assuming it’s java or something. it doesn’t happen on my pc or laptop, though, so i imagine its legit

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

can any fellow office dwellers out there recommend me a good stapler?

I’ve tried several different ones but they all get clogged, why can’t they make a good stapler. maybe I should just get an electric stapler.

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

electric is where its at

but Swingline makes some good ones, you just have to get past the basic model. my secretary has this one and its awesome. never jammed in over a year.

/office supplies nerd

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 17, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks!

that is one handsome stapler

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a Swingline

It works about as well as every other stapler that I’ve ever used, which is perfectly.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 17, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I worked in a university computer lab and the staplers were always f'd up

I have a feeling they were not using the right type of staples for each stapler though. and the ones I’ve used at my accounting clerk job always clog up invariably with time… although, I do have to staple a lot of invoices.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've had the Staples brand version of this


for over 4 years now……I like my stapler.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I might have to get one of those from the staples down the street

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

any 24 watchers

is he the one who plays the parole officer?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I investigated

Stephen Root as Bill Prady

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

not yet

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 17, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's depressing to have strong feelings about staplers, but i like the non-powered staples brand staplers.

they’re very lightweight because they’re made of plastic but work well. easy on the hands if you pick up your stapler to use it.

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by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i've never had a stray thought about staplers

i’m feeling kind of isolated in this clubhouse.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that's the same one I use......

as a side note……Bacon, pegacorns….etc I’ve come to expect, but the stapler convo is one I never expected to have. Here or anywhere else for that matter.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're old effers, RR

be glad it’s staplers and not walkers

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right....but young enough to get pissed

I couldn’t find a linki that wasn’t blocked earlier. That’s the one you want Chitown…I think it was aboot $20.
They’ve upgraded it. $23

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

souped up staplers?

sweet

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by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'll be back

just realized i’m out of beer on st. pats engaged in a stapler conversation on a baseball blog. i think i’ve had an epiphany.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the kind of situation

that makes a man sit back and do a self evaluation

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

back with the beer

suddenly the self-evaluation doesn’t seem so important anymore. give me time and i could probably conjure up impure stapler thoughts.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

enlightenment

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like PaperPro's

the Prodigy. Best stapler we’ve ever owned, hasn’t clogged, very easy to use (they claim it’s a one-finger stapler, but I never use just one finger (I know, I know, TW**)). Here’s a video on it
link

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

*drools*

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

riveting convo up in this thread

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

lettah openah of death!

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

recarific

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

except the HoF picks your team

because of boggs

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I know he hit 98 from the pen last year

but isn’t that a LITTLE bit presumptuous?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 18, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

ha. just a little.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT: To go along with your wolf urine...

http://www.wildlife-traps.com/godzilla.html

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 17, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions  

"superior fictional monster retention"

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

TLR, Cox, Torre

http://baseballhall.mlblogs.com/archives/2010/03/managing_greatness.html

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Miller & Garcia

Does anyone envision the following scenario?
Miller becomes part-time closer(depending on match ups and Frankie use) and LOOGY extraordinaire.
Garcia becomes part-time LOOGY that can handle righties (so not really long relieve to limit use).

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Mar 17, 2010 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Garcia = 5th starter (imo, at this time)

but I like the idea of the franklin – miller duo for closer (unless we trade for someone)

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Jaime is in the pen at all.....

I say late season Waino role, except make him the closer. Which will never happen because a closer on the Cards has to have veterany experience to get the role out of spring.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

veterany!

mmmm

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

jason motte disagrees?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

and if you recall......

there wasn’t a named closer coming out of spring…I believe it was Motte gets first shot, and the leash was obviously short.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

jus sayin’ if the rookie is given the shot and does well, he sticks

too bad we have an “official” closer

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think,

that if he is in the pen, he looks to me like he’d be the most dominant arm out there, as Waino was once Izzy got hurt. Don’t waste it.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have no problem with him in the pen

might be a good idea to keep his work load down. but not as a long man

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

i joked earlier about whether the cubs would be interested in dukes. bcb has a fanpost up with a poll. when i voted, “why not?” was winning.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

you'd think they'd be worried about another MB situation

Dukes is a pretty good player, but why would they need him? I think Marlon Byrd will do well for them, Fukudome is a solid player, and Soriano is paid so much you can’t really just bench him, even if Dukes is slightly better imo

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

MB is the point

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

woh

I just noticed they replaced one MB with another MB

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

life is funny like that sometimes

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

yah

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, and their front page photo today is of albert crushing one

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't tell them that it's labeled

a strikeout

I don’t buy it, it looks like Albert made contact.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is?

i just glanced at the photo – looked like liftoff was about to occur.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

AP can be on the drugs

and I don’t mean Albert

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

one of the commenters says

lee/ramirez/byrd is just as formidable as pujols/holliday – so are they counting apu as two players?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

they can't seem to fathom

that Ludwick is also a good hitter, and that Rasmus will probably be better than last season. and Lopez’s on base skills should help score a few more runs

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's not tell them

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

they'd probably just say his '08 was a fluke anyway

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

the loss column!

…wait.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you're saying there's a chance

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wth, sbn?

why do you hate me?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've almost done that a thousand times

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

YA....It's really fun after a couple of beers

and the comment box is off screen…..

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it would look like I was bored or something lol

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

is that twitter-talk for, "i just yawned"?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, it's when this happens to you

link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

clever

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

best tweet,

or best tweet ever?

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec

let’s make this green

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

good call

glad to help

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's green now

Happy St. Patty’s Day VEB!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 17, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's better than a shamrock

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

not the one i saw a few hours ago

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

could it have been like this huge rabbit i once saw?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

i doubt a smoking hot lassy would have a huge shamrock tattooed on her body

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

f'in gdm

a huge rabbit tattooed on her body

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was digging up an old link

and discovered that Sugar Shane has this:

"Got to add a little trick to my bag," said Robinson, 25. "I’m just trying to get the basics (of second base) down."

is he actually a leprechaun?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

i bet he's drunk as hell today

leprechauns drink, i assume.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually I think he's with the guys who took batting practice

scroll up to the goold has the dirt comment, I gotta unload this link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

freezer was there

would it be wise to make him the designated driver?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone think

miller has a chance to start above A ball if he continues to impress? word on the street is tony is planning to give him a start during one of these double headers

can he force himself into the AA rotation?

i have visions in my head of him blazing through the high minors the season and being an above average big league starter for the 2011 cards. somebody give me a paper bag

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

I better go see him in the quad cities before he moves up

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was my hope as well.

Well, not in Quad Cities, but whenever the River Bandits come to So. Bend.

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

strauss tweeted a day or so ago that he would start at palm beach - high a is a huge step for a first full year.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

it is

but if he’s putting away big league hitters better than todd wellemeyer can, AA doesn’t seem out of the realm of possibility

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

would not be surprised to see him in springfield by august.

i hope he gets a good chunk of the season to work in high a, though.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

the cards may be hesitant about psychologically destroying a young pitcher, though

can’t imagine why

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, I'm as impressed by his stuff as anyone

the mental adjustment to the pro lifestyle might be included in the seasoning

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think they'll let him skip any stages

he can move quickly, but i’m sure the system is set up to provide different “seasonings” at each stop.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

putting him in high a seems aggressive but not crazy.

depending on his progress, a springfield promotion at mid-summer seems the same to me.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotcha

and he should see a bass pro shop, too

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see your point,

but it does appear the Miller’s background is a wee bit more stable than that of, say, oh I don’t know, Ankiel.

STAB STAB STAB

by spants on Mar 17, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, twas tongue-in-cheek

or something like that

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Craig and Mather

…are healthy and hitting, what is the use of having Stavinoha around at all? He’s a lousy hitter who can’t play a position. Craig’s defense is a question mark, true, but he can swing it. Mather may be able to fake third and can play two of the OF positions well and could fill in CF if disaster struck. They really ought to just stuff the man in Memphis or release him.

Lugo also has no role on this team either. He seems a worse version of Lopez, and he really can’t field much. Lugo can’t even really fake SS… though I’d imagine that’s why he’s still around. He’s played there before and TLR just fells more comfortable with a former SS at SS, even if that guy can’t play SS anymore. Lugo is likely Boog insurance. Unless, of course, the decision-makers around plan on sending Freese off to pasture, playing Lopez a lot, and using some kind of Mather/Craig/Lugo mashup to fill in the holes.

You see, if there’s one thing I hate. Unnecessary redundancies. If you bring nothing new to the table, whether that be positional versatility, a better bat, a better glove, or maybe even more speed, then you don’t need to be around. Unless you tell a mean fart joke, of course.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Mar 17, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I really really hope Stavino doesn't make the team

not to be super negative against the guy, but he is of very limited value to the team

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 17, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's a 25-man roster until sept.

i really wouldn’t worry about stav heading north.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

stavinoha's around

because someone needs to have his own memphis bobblehead day.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 17, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

is this true?

if so, i might trek to memphis…or just get one on ebay.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

must be a DC team
The other thing is, you came a bunch of times to baseball games last year, and we have a lot of flex plans that I think would be good for you, because they are buy four games, and you get one free, and you already came to four games last year. So right off the bat, we’re saving money, and as an economist, you’re well aware of things like that.

http://econtricks.blogspot.com/2010/03/washington-nationals-are-spying-on-me.html

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

that is creepy

very creepy.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's coming from inside the basement

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, I wonder if the CIA laid someone off

and they had to get a job to keep their apartment…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

this guy from the phils site knows the deal

Traffic over at

VEB is incredible. A lot of stories hit 750+, I would say average would be 500+ in a single day. I can’t even read everything in a day.

by Riney on Mar 17, 2010 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

that’s clipped from their most commented post (by far), the Pujols-Howard fiasco. It has 142 comments.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

sometimes it's better if they don't read all of it

but eh, we’re in spring training form. lots of the regulars are chillin’.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness

At least half of our comments in the off-season are non-baseball related. For example, does anyone know if this way of making Lamb is how they make restaurant style Gyros?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i do believe so

but to your first point, nobody is stopping the phils fans from making their own non-baseball-related comments. one of their front-page posts had 10 comments – 10! and only the one i cited had over 100. i’d say average is about 50.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You've been nexdef'd.

I chronicled this in the 1650 pot thread that everyone is afraid to enter.
Also, I loves me some gyros…..I haven’t been able to convince myself that this recipe will turn out well.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a lot of free time on my hands

I have one class at 12:30 tomorrow and no class on Friday. I’ll probably be giving it a shot tomorrow or Friday unless someone steers me to a better one.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definately

Alton Brown is my culinary guru. I’ve wanted to try that recipe, but haven’t gotten around to it.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do the pretzels.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The pretzels.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an afternoon,

and yes, they were worth it. I also used some of the dough and made pretzel wrapped brats, which were awesome.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

dough will also hold the bacon on the brat

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was it to the comment

that said we don’t talk aboot baseball on the internet? I had to bite my tongue…I’ve only had one other comment over there, and it was aboot lasers.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

on sharks

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was on dolphins

the ones who were locked and loaded, and swept out away from the coast by Hurricane Katrina?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I felt it necessary to point out

the double standard, as they were yapping aboot the Hawaiian getting doused with beer by classless fans.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

the most amazing part of that

is that no one in the entire section ratted out laser-perp

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

*’s

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes

and sorry about nexdeffing.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

we'll let you off with a warning

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You oughtta be,

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

VEB is definitely one of the most active SBN baseball sites

McCovey Chronicles gets a ton of comments, BCB usually does once the season starts up. Never really checked out any of the AL sites

by mattyp on Mar 17, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lookout Landing as well

but they are mostly a bunch of pretentious jerks…

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 17, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

and with such words, the great interblog war of '10 was started.

not since “who is going to miss one archduke anyway?” has one statement spawned such conflict.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 17, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions   5 recs

let it be known,

that mattyfrommo cast the first stone.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you bailing on your brother?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no...I'll throw down.....

I may not agree with the fight, but I gotta back my boys…that’s just how I roll.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

the bay area destroys the comment competition. MC & AN don't mess around

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

not that there's anything wrong with that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's pretty nice, for sure

i spent a summer in san fran in a summer pro league (basketball)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

doesn't Riney post over here occasionally?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 17, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't know

but he reads over here, according to him

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 17, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

upon review, he's most recently

infiltrated posted in the tagline fanpost.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 17, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

well I'll leave this OT out there

I know there’s got to be some classic film buffs out there…

any recs from pre-1950s films? I for one am willing to brave subtitles. My silent film list is pretty spare, too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 17, 2010 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Bicycle Thieves?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

I saw the OP and knew someone was going to mention that. No offense, but I watched that and I was so bored my eyes almost ate themselves. As for recs, City Lights for sure (obvious, I know) and anything else Chaplin, as well as anything Fritz Lang (at least Metropolis)

by mattyp on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I completely agree

I’m no film buff, but I had to take “From Neorealism to Reality TV” as a GE a few semesters ago. I was bored out of my MIND for 99% of the class… we went through Bicycle Thieves, La Dolce Vita, etc… Just doesn’t agree with me

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

citizen kane, yo

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

also

no harm in just going through this list and watching everything pre 1950. or everything, really

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

GREAT CHOICE

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

In that same vein (sort of), I recommend All About Eve, also from 1950

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pygmalion

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Book is probably better than the movie.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 18, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's the case most of the time

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Metropolis

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 17, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

beat ya

see above. Fritz Lang was awesome

by mattyp on Mar 17, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also: Murnau

Faust is fantastic.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 18, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

BTW- It looks like Kino is starting to ramp up to promote the new, new restoration.

http://www.kino.com/metropolis/

Hopefully we’ll see a version with the footage recovered in Argentina sometime in 2010.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 18, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

generic screwball comedy recommendations

The Thin Man, Bringing Up Baby, His Girl Friday, The Philadelphia Story, It Happened One Night, Holiday, The Palm Beach Story… there are a lot of less-cliched suggestions to be made from the genre, but those are my favorites. I’ve also watched and loved all the various Marx Brothers and Astaire/Rogers movies, and if you love one of those you’ll like the rest.

I watch less classic drama (clearly) but I’m fond of The Best Years of Our Lives and Only Angels Have Wings, and I’m a sucker for all the Frank Capra good-guy-makes-good-eventually movies. The Maltese Falcon and the Big Sleep were great, but I wouldn’t recommend watching them as close to one-another as I did if you want to remember which scene was from which.

As for silent stuff, all I’m really familiar with is Buster Keaton and Harold Lloyd. They’re great, of course.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 18, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

O M G. i love love love love The Thin Man movies

come on, you’re really like 65 aren’t you?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

it just blows my mind someone you age can have such good taste

in a good one. it’s really awesome man,it really is. if more early 20somethings were like you, this world just might have a chance

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

better read your sig again

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

i said IF, sadly our dan is one in a trillion

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 4:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marx Bros!

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 18, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Night of the Hunter doesn't meet your specifications (1955),

but everyone should watch it anyway.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read the book before seeing the film.

The book was so intense that it made the film seem comical.

STAB STAB STAB

by spants on Mar 18, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh--I didn't realize that was a book as well

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

excellent movie

"If you don't have outstanding relief pitching, you might as well piss on the fire and call the dogs." -WH

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 19, 2010 3:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a huge Katherine Hepburn fan

Anything with her and Cary Grant is gold, especially Philadelphia Story and Holiday (I think the former has aged better). Cary Grant on his own is a little more hit-and-miss, but Arsenic and Old Lace is fantastic, and so are His Girl Friday (who wouldn’t like a slapstick comedy partially centered on the possible execution of an innocent man?) and My Favorite Wife. Also his Hitchcock movies (Notorious is awesome; I’m sure there’s another one pre-50s but it’s slipped my mind). And since you’re also kind of into baseball, what about Pride of the Yankees?

by BTown Birds fan on Mar 18, 2010 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

"since you're also kind of into baseball"

LOL

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we're still doing this

It’s a Wonderful Life, obviously, is required viewing (especially at Christmas). I’m also quite a big chaplin fan – Modern Times and The Kid remain my favourites, City Lights is very good too.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 5:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8BJNzrFNJA&feature=related

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just letting veb know about my less than heterosexual moment

but i guess i set something off

and i think you broke it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNsrK6P9QvI

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 18, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

meme

that’s what we do here

there is no meme in theme

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes I wonder what happens to commenters.

I was thinking back to this picture comment and realized that ilrosso hasn’t been seen in a long time.

Curious.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Mar 18, 2010 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

lol...tiny chef....

I’d say April 5th would be a good time to start gauging these things.

Asshattery: it's an epidemic.
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 18, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was a time I thought Solanus had left as well

but I’m usually able to summon him if I try.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Mar 18, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

This was one of my favorite comments

before it was ruined by SBN 2.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Mar 18, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

How are there 669 comments

if Solanus was 666?

STAB STAB STAB

by spants on Mar 18, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

3 people commented after him

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Duh, spants.

I’ve become stupid tired.

STAB STAB STAB

by spants on Mar 18, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

anywho

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

well the f'in red baron posted the comment above that one

three minutes later. He probably made 668 & 669 as well.

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 18, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh wow

so valatan being a mod isn’t something new?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 18, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

not all at newbie

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

so that's why i never got an email from you

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 2:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

she said often

you, she knew was missing. she just didn’t care.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

that's not true! no! it can't be! i don't believe it!

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not you

it’s me

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's all me baby

it’s always me

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's complicated, it's still complicated

things are very weird up here right now. it was nice to know i was missed though. i honestly never expected that from anyone

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you try to summon him now?

Because he’s commenting in the fanposts.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 18, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

speak of the devil

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

he lasted less than 3 months

shooting star.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

fun fact from poz

as we know, the pirates haven’t had a winning season since 1992, an mlb record for consecutive losing seasons. during that time, the royals won 2 more games than the pirates..

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 1:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I know this has been asked a couple of times, but I just want to make sure

Nobody’s run into problems with sharing an mlb.tv account, correct? Seeing as my internship is going to be unpaid, there’s no way I can afford the $100/$120 by myself for the service

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 18, 2010 1:53 AM EDT reply actions  

no problems for two years

knock on wood

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Today - I deem it a success.

…8:30AM-1:30AM

Drink drink drink

17 hours…no midday nap…cross-town bar crawl.

Ended the night by karaoke’ing Eagles – “Take it Easy”

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 18, 2010 2:01 AM EDT reply actions  

not bad, but you missed a discussion on staplers

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit....Mildly upset now?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 18, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

it's not healthy or productive to have regrets

just realize your mistake and move on.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truth. Success indeed....

….f’n beerfarts are kickin’ in hard, though. Haha

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by vexedtechie on Mar 18, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

there is always a price to pay

remember this, vexedtechie.

on the other hand, it is said that the best things in life are free, so i guess it’s just a matter of figuring out how to get them without paying.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

ah, i remember those days

actually, no, no i don’t really remember those days

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

with the tourney getting underway

this is a quick, interesting read on calipari. my favorite is paragraph 8, beginning, “Calipari has done the most remarkable coaching job…”

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_rosenberg/03/17/calipari/index.html

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 2:12 AM EDT reply actions  

ot - the post-dispatch website has the worst ads of all time.

first, there was the plastic surgery ad where the before picture looked like the catatonic psychic from carnivale and the after picture looked like john travolta in drag.

then, they were running an ad for a car dealership with a female salesperson who had what may have been the world’s ugliest haircut.

now, they have an ad up for blues tickets for “free food day, brought to you by Tums™.”

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 18, 2010 3:18 AM EDT reply actions  

firefox ad block for the win

i don’t know how people live without it

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 3:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is perhaps the best invention in browsing technology

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh not my problem..

Shouldn’t you be sleeping at this time of nite mister? You know gdm and I are the ones who hold down the graveyard shift.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you and gdm have it covered i'm gonna mosey across the street

to the 24-hr. bar.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'd like to be the proprietor of one of those one day

at least a cool 24HR diner. that’d be awesome

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would be fun to have a 24 hour place like that

the types of stories you’d get from a place like that would be well worth it.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

it would be epic

i have no idea why, but i’ve always wanted to be short order/diner cook. it’s totally weird but even as a kid i used to stand in the kitchen & yell out stuff like “two black eye susans, hold the fernbellies & extra gun racks!” while i was making a sandwich.

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you don't own A gun

let alone multiple guns which would necessitate an entire rack.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 4:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

So you reside in heaven?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

the bloggings coming from the great beyond?

Hope is the worst of all evils, for it prolongs the torment of man

by gdm426 on Mar 18, 2010 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

new orleans at the present

and i really am going to the bar before 4 – there will be some nutjobs there, believe me.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I shouild look into moving down there...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 4:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

some of them will just be getting started, too

bartenders from other joints, various vampires – couple days ago i partied in there with this chick wearing some kind of big wings and a top hat. this little cat i leave the back door open for shredded one of these huge wings made of real feathers. oh darn.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like every episode of Insomniac

spun into one bar…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

i'm pretty sure there's a reason anne rice lives here

guy walks in the other day, buck naked, orders a shot of jack, downs it, and we watch him head down the street to the next bar, trailed by three guys in a car laughing their asses off. dude obviously lost a bet, but thing is, there was no question of him getting served no questions asked.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 4:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must be nice to live in a city that lets you be an adult...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 18, 2010 5:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

haha

only been here a couple months, but found a good mentor for all things new orleans, and it’s on his advice that i’m leaving right now to the bar – he hasn’t let me down yet. dude has every date and occasion like st. pats down to a science as far as where to be and when to be there. so…gotta run.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

it could only be better if it were specific:

free pizza hut brought to you by tums.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i've been thinking

which is sort of a caution warning, but, when it comes to fifth starter and bullpen, should we pay attention to who is doing the catching when these guys pitch? with a birds-eye view and the full trust of the coaching staff, certainly yadi is debriefed on each guy’s stuff, so from here on out wouldn’t they have him catch the guys that are seriously in the running for any spots?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 3:44 AM EDT reply actions  

my own form of kremlinology

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 5:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aim high.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 18, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

aim wide

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 18, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Mar 19, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

gracias

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the above two posts

are the tenets by which Francisco Samuel continues to live.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 19, 2010 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

laugh and be polite?

hey, that’s my life philosophy too.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 19, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

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