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Felipe Lopez has probably never felt so much internet-love, and all he had to give in return for it was most of the money he'd probably earned with his excellent 2009. 

It is almost a boring transaction to talk about, and I say almost only because no transaction is less boring than a replacement offseason news-item; the money is so inconsequential that if he flops it is a pox not on the payroll but on our memories of the giddy days in February when Felipe Lopez was curing lineup cancer and fighting lineup deflation, etc. Nearly everyone's happy about it, and some people are ecstatic about it. 

But there's one more angle to take before we finish the last verse of "Felipe, Row the Boat Ashore." Presenting: all the areas Felipe Lopez might plausibly play—though even Felipe Lopez won't be able to play them all at once, so far as I can tell. 

Star-divide

1. Platoon Second Baseman

I got angrier about Skip Schumaker playing second base against left-handers than the average blogger—and we get angry on far less provocation than that—so I might be overstating the case by placing this first among Lopez's presumable positions, though I think that he absolutely must play there. 

Last year Skip Schumaker, who until Lugo came around was mostly on his own, hit .220/.278/.240 against left-handers in 100 plate-appearances. If you're wondering where Felipe Lopez will get the plate appearances that might eventually trip his plate appearance incentives, start with all of those. (I realize that current best-practices dictate that I regress platoon splits such as Skip's, given that he has only 250 at-bats against left-handers to this point; but since he is a minus fielder, and the Cardinals are now swimming in right-handed minus fielders, why bother? Now I can just dismiss him entirely!)

Lopez is closer to being a "true" switch hitter than most—my favorite fake switch-hitter was always Jose Valentin, who had a split (.817 vs. .593) that would be enormous for a left-handed batter—but if the difference is real it is, so far, slightly biased in favor of hitting righties. But given the Cardinals' other options (unless they plan on using this one situation as reason to keep Lugo around), he's the one. He's somewhere around average on defense, and will be a serious upgrade on the numbers Schumaker put up this year, if not the ones he might in the future. I like it!

 

2. Contingency Third Baseman

I also like this! As a third baseman Felipe Lopez reminds me of the alien version of Abraham Nunez from the first half of 2005, who hit .295/.354/.399 and extended his career by two years. This split has been just about worn out by now, but one last time—Cardinals third basemen hit .229/.292/.369, against an NL average of .261/.333/.419. Having Felipe Lopez around gives them two plausibly average third baseman and an excuse—Lopez's versatility—to hang on to both of them. 

In the ideal version of the 2010 Cardinals David Freese hits early and consistently, showing 20 home run power and hitting for a fair average. But even then Lopez will play at third—more, possibly, than he does at any other position. If Freese starts slowly we'll probably hear, from La Russa, about how mentally perfect he is for pinch hitting, and Lopez could end up with the fat side of the third base platoon. 

 

3. Fill-in Shortstop

The position of fill-in shortstop, unlike the others on the Felipe Lopez list, was filled quite adequately last year; if it hadn't been he might be starting this year. On the provisional 2010 roster this is where it becomes clear that Felipe Lopez duplicates Julio Lugo functionality in every meaningful way. Lopez, like Lugo, is a terrible defensive shortstop, but he's a different kind of bad; his is a known quantity. Lugo hovered around average for a long time, had leg problems, and then, in 2009, became a special kind of bad shortstop, visible to both the eyes and the play-by-play metrics.

It's good to know that Lopez can play shortstop, however badly, but a gambling man might be ready to see if another year away from surgery has returned to Lugo his capacity for mediocrity. Whatever the Cardinals end up doing with Lugo, Lopez allows us a better guess at what the Cardinals would look like should Brendan Ryan miss any time. The pitchers probably don't like this, but I do! Three for three! 

 

4. Left fielder I guess?

This is the one I don't like! The Cardinals spent a hundred million dollars on one corner outfielder and are more or less settled with the other. Playing a guy who just barely had the bat for corner outfield in his career year out of position makes so little sense that it probably won't happen to any appreciable degree, even if La Russa continues to talk about it. 

But a team that's brought Allen Craig and Joe Mather to camp, and one that needs to sort out its cost-controlled players as well as it can for the austere payrolls of the next few years, any at-bats for Felipe Lopez in the outfield are too many. I give Tony La Russa a lot of credit for the lengths to which he'll go to ensure that useful players keep playing, but Lopez is in no danger of sitting for more than a day or two in a row; a guy who's in two platoons already needn't play additional games in left to stay fresh. 

What's so great about the Felipe Lopez signing is that he mitigates several potential issues at once; it's like the Mark DeRosa trade in those few golden games before he became damaged goods and his ability to platoon with Ankiel in the outfield became a moot point. They're now shielded pretty well from any one of those first three positions going awry. 

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Ryan, for whatever reason, has a late surgery and up steps a replacement. Ryan never fully recovers from the surgery and ends his career as a backup for Jose Reyes.

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Mar 1, 2010 6:06 AM EST reply actions  

bite your tongue!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions  

ban-worthy!

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 1, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Lopez is a nice deal

Makes one think that Julio Lugo is trade bait at some point. If he can bring a serviceable minor leaguer, then this will have worked out well.

My only question is why didn’t 15 other teams want or need an average to above average platoon player for that price? Certainly seems like teams are really ratcheting back on payroll this year. Cards seem to be one of the big spenders now.

Now if they can bring in Smoltz or Martinez, they’ve got quite a juggernaut

Just win

by The Duke on Mar 1, 2010 6:46 AM EST reply actions  

I Think...

….they’re looking moore at Smoltzy now as a cowtingency starter, someone to go to if no one establishes themselves as our #5 this spring, or if an injury happens, and if he gets signed at all it would be sometime after the beginning of the season.

As for the FLopster, he’ll be el chupacabra-ing ABs away from Skip and Lugo, and perhaps Tastee as well, which is ok provided he can hit and field well. I don;t see him moooch in LF, except during double switches or a late inning replacement vs a lefty closer.

I’d like to point out, though , that the Brew crew now has 3 lefty starters, clearly a response to last year’s less than stellar performance against lefties.

Oh yeah, and, uhh, moo.

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 7:39 AM EST up reply actions  

moore likely

floppy to second and the cobbler to the outfield

seems possible that all the spare parts, except maybe tg, will know where to go when tlr says play===left. ss, 3rd, etc

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 1, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I read somewhere

that both Smoltz and Pedro are waiting until midseason to sign with a team…by then, when might be praying for smoltz

"Albert hits good pitches hard and bad pitches even harder. And when he gets in the batter's box, if you pray, then you start praying. And if you don't pray, you think about starting."--Brian Bannister

by VolsnCards5 on Mar 1, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I really, really want Smoltz

and it sort of seems that, in the current market (<$2m for Floppy!), we’ve got the money to get that done. If he’s keen to wait until mid-season, tbh, I’d be happy to just sign him now and let him sit on his ass for three months (I guess we could do that by signing him to a MIL contract with, say, $3m guaranteed money).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions  

sign him before Congress does!

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100228&content_id=8621772&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

My opinion, Smoltz hasn't signed because he doesn't want to yet.

No doubt we offered him money but it’s obvious he turned us down. Either he doesn’t want to be on this team or he wants to start and we want him for bullpen.

He is in the driver’s seat and he knows it.

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Mar 1, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe. . .

we think an about-to-be 43-year old coming off a season where he only pitched well against craptastic offensive teams isn’t a good bet. The Red Sox didn’t release him for nothing, after all.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

the Red Sox brought him back too early after surgery

more rest might result in more physical effectiveness

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

They released him because he cost too much

35k a day and another 500k October 4th.

Not really an issue for us.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

All of this glosses over the facts that:

1. He didn’t pitch well.

2. He’s old.

I love the guy, and hope he pitches well, for the Cardinals, even, but I don’t think it’s anywhere near a foregone conclusion, and maybe the Birds have decided it’s a poor expenditure of funds.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

He pitched just fine

Are you really going to slice and dice his record to be 3 starts against the Yankees and Rangers? Even playing that game by tossing out the Padres, Nationals and Houston he had a 4.29 FIP for us. Pitchers do worse against the best teams, we aren’t looking for a #1 starter here.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

For a team that spent $130M+ on payroll last year

$2M doesn’t seem like a lot for a guy who can still pitch. Unfortunately, he didn’t pitch very well for the Red Sox last year — that’s why he got cut, not the money.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

No

He got cut because of money and the fact that they (thought) had pitching depth that was at least as good and cheaper i.e. not the Cardinals situation.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

If he had pitched well, would they have cut him?

If John Smoltz had a 4.00 FIP in Boston last year, would they have cut him? I don’t think so, there would have been a fucking riot outside of Fenway!

If anything it was a combination of horrible performance AND money, but it certainly wasn’t money alone, and that’s what SSCF is pointing out.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Smoltz pitched like a #4 starter for them

Fortunately for the Red Sox, they thought they had a number of guys able to pitch to the 4.8 FIP he did put up there, for free. If you can get the same performance as the guy who would cost 2.6M for free, you take the free guy.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

4th Starter? More like 5th starter....

And don’t we have at least 3 guys who could put up a 5.00 FIP in the fifth starter spot? Boggs, McClellan, and Garcia all have the potential to be that good, and Lance Lynn might get there by the end of the year with a good start in AAA. So why aren’t we taking the free guy? With Beckett and Dice-K they had similar injury issues to that Cardinals current staff.

All this is missing the point. Had he pitched like a #3 or #4 starter there’s no way they would have cut him. Especially with his bullpen acumen in the postseason. Bottom line is — they thought he was done as a starter, they didn’t want to pay him that money to be a bullpen guy, so they cut him.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Not even close

1. A 4.80 FIP in the AL East is #4, not the typical #5 starter first off. #5 starters are terrible.

2. Smoltz is projected to be a lot better than any of those three. 4.01 FIP vs. a 4.6s for Boggs/Garcia by CHONE. McClellan is projected as a reliever, but I’d have a hard time believing he’d be better than 4.50 as a starter no? Scouting wise I’d say he’s much better equipped as a starter than any of them.

“Bottom line” he cost 2.6M when they thought they could get about the same production for free. We. Are. Not. In. This. Situation.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

We have a difference of opinion here, clearly

and you are playing fuzzy math with statistics.

  • 4.80 FIP in the AL East? What is that, 3 pitchers? Awfully small sample size.
  • I don’t have a fucking clue what his projections have to do with the point here, which is that the Red Sox clearly cut him for lack of performance related to his contractual situation, not just because of money issues
  • They didn’t get the same production for free, it was a huge loss for them overall. They may have mitigated their losses by about $1.5-$2M or so, but they lost service time for players like Bucholz and Bowden, who wasn’t even on the 40 man roster before the cut Smoltz. In terms of what that service time cost them, they probably broke even.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

What?

1. Awfully small sample size? The average #5 starter is going to be a lot worse than a 4.80 FIP to begin with, then you put those guys in the AL East and a 4.80 FIP is a lot better than your generic #5s.

2. A response to: “And don’t we have at least 3 guys who could put up a 5.00 FIP in the fifth starter spot? Boggs, McClellan, and Garcia all have the potential to be that good, and Lance Lynn might get there by the end of the year with a good start in AAA. So why aren’t we taking the free guy?”

3. I would imagine that if they knew what Smoltz ended up doing and what happened with injuries and whatnot, they don’t cut Smoltz even with the 2.6M.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

#3.

That’s exactly my point. Which means he was cut for performance reasons, not money reasons. Capiche?

Whether that has any effect on us signing him, I don’t know in the least. I think he would have to accept whatever role he was given (setup guy, long man, spot starter, fifth starter), and I’m not sure he’s willing to do that. If we could sign him for $2M with incentives to double that based on innings or starts, I would be fine with this — at least then we’re hedging against and injury.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow is everything black and white?

If any team knew Smoltz was going to put up a 2.73 FIP after the Red Sox, literally every team would have tried to sign him for 2.6M, that was a throwaway retrospective.

No one knew that was going to happen at the time, he was probably a 4.80 guy going forward (not done as a starter etc) at the time and the Red Sox had cheaper options that could do the same. The end.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Which means

his performance had everything to do with his getting cut, not the fact that he was making $2.5M for the remainder of the season.

/stupid, ridiculous argument

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

You really like getting in the last word

Even if it’s agreeing with something I didn’t say.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

You apparently, enjoy changing your tune

When someone calls you out on your bullshit theories.

They released him because he cost too much
35k a day and another 500k October 4th.

If that was true, then stop quoting performance statistics. You said they cut him due to money and money only. Every time you quote statistics, you make my point for me.

Just admit you made an error. Is that so hard to do? Or is your ego to big for it?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow dude

Answer the question below. Why do you take Pitcher B over Pitcher A? Money!

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

The Red Sox were also in a bind thanks to roster machinations.

They were trying to fit Tazawa, Byrd, Penny, Daisuke into that spot as well.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 1, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I just did, below.

It wasn’t about money. Period.

You keep introducing other reasons, and all the other reasons point to his shitty performance being the reason he was cut, not cash.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

man, you guys really like to argue

he pitched poorly and the performance he was giving was easily replaceable with cheaper internal options. What is there to argue about?

by mattyp on Mar 1, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

anybody beat 4?

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 1, 2010 12:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

in or cm?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want him to admit

that performance had a lot to do with his being cut. That’s all.

He’s trying to make others look like idiots by saying it was a money move only, and that clearly wasn’t the case.

His ego is apparently to big to just admit that performance had something to do with it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Not Even

all cows are black and white…

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well played

Your still the lead bovine around here.

by mob16151 on Mar 1, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Like to Think...

…I’m still da Big Moo around here…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Everybody wants to be da Cow

You’re Hugh Heffer, man.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh.

I mispelled heifer. I lose.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I Cud Be...

…Huge Heifer! With my Cow Belles!

:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

moor cowbell?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

We Always

Need moor cow belles…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

There you go

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

He's made of lead?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Smoltz's xFIP for Boston was 4.18

and he had a 3.67 K/BB ratio.

He also gave up a 15% HR/FB rate, and a .390 BABIP.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

And the BoSox front office. . .

is one of the bigget proponents of advanced metrics around, and they still released him.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

They also think Jacoby Ellsbury is a good center fielder.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 1, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

full circle!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I find it difficult to criticize this opinion.

To do so is to assume that UZR and +/- are better than Boston’s internal metric, which we know nothing about.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Consider this then:

UZR, etc. have problems that range from sample size to positioning to some problems with context, yet they universally agree that Ellsbury did not make enough plays on balls that should have been playable for him.

Theo Epstein has nothing to gain by agreeing with that assessment (it would devalue an asset he controls), and no one can verify the reasoning behind his disagreement.

Either A. Jacoby was bad. Epstein even admitted that Ellsbury has some bad habits and takes some bad routes.

B. The Red Sox have changed the data stream (because every analysis of BIS and other data set says Jacoby sucked) from which their metric derives (perhaps they have stringers watching every game of every team recording every fielder’s positioning on every ball in play), and their manipulation of this data yields better (more accurate, more predictive etc.) results regarding Jacoby’s 2009, and even though he sucked in 2009, it was because of bad positioning or bad luck (because he did suck).

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 1, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. And then he pitched really well for us

I’m by no means advocating hindsight as the only way to evaluate a decision, but it seems pretty clear that they were wrong that he had nothing left in the tank (if indeed that’s why they released him).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 5:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Does it matter?

He pitched poorly, he got cut. If he pitches well, they’re not going to cut him to save a paltry $2M!!! Ipso facto, he was not cut solely because of money reasons, he was cut because of poor performance as a starter AND salary reasons.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, going forward, yeah it matters.

If he sucked because he sucked, I don’t want him. If he sucked because of bad luck, I’d be willing to bet he can turn it around.

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

We're not talking about going forward

we’re talking about why he got released, which was because he stunk out the joint and the Red Sox decided to part ways with him because they had no use for him as a pitcher and he was due roster bonuses every day. It wasn’t money alone — this is a team that pays JD Drew around $30,000 per fucking at-bat. $35,000 per day is not a lot of money for a team with a payroll of $140M.

It’s ludicrous to assume that they would have cut him if he was awesome just because they owed him a roster bonus, yet that’s what joker is saying: He was cut for money reasons that were entirely unrelated to his performance. That’s bullshit.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummm

Why he got released was because they thought he wasn’t better than their other options. “Bullshit”??? Smoltz was not better than their other options going forward. I cannot figure out what is so complicated about that.

Smoltz is a lot better than our options going forward so who the fuck cares about the Red Sox anyway.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

This was not your response earlier

You said he was cut for money reasons. He was not, he was cut because he didn’t perform well. They simply had better pitchers than him that alsoi happened to be cheaper last season. Although it will cost them more money in the long term because of the service time added to Bucholz and Bowden, who probably wouldn’t have been on the roster had Smoltz been the fifth starter.

They were trying to make the playoffs, not save $2M bucks.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh jesus

He was cut because the other options were about the same and cost less.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Why were they about the same?

Oh, right, because his performance was poor. Not because he was making $2.5M. How hard is it to admit you made a really shortsighted comment?

Apparently, it’s really hard.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

No it's not

Let’s see: Pitcher A is a 4.80 FIP going forward. Pitcher B is a 4.80 FIP going forward. Pitcher A costs 2.6M, Pitcher B is free.

Which guy are you going to take on your team?

Why are you making that decision?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

If so,

why the fuck did you sign Pitcher A in the first place? Oh, right, because he’s a HOF starting pitcher and had a projected 4.00 FIP.

You keep trying to make this about money, when it wasn’t about money. If his performance comes close to his projections from 2009, then they keep him. So it’s not about money. It’s about performance.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha I'm done, not that complicated but it's all good

You got in the last word, therefore you win.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If you would have just admitted that

his performance related to his projection caused him to be cut 45 comments ago we wouldn’t have to have this argument.

It’s pretty clear that his performance factored in, yet you still insist it didn’t, even after quoting all of his statistics from last year as proof that his salary was the reason he got cut.

You’re using proof of what you deny to make your point. Unbelievable.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha
“Admit that you’re wrong”
“But I’m not wrong”
“Admit that you’re wrong!!!”

The Cardinals didn’t DFA Wellemeyer. Why would the Red Sox DFA Smoltz but the Cardinals didn’t DFA a worse pitcher?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

I guess we could take two completely unrelated situations and compare them.

What’s next, comparing the color and shape of an orange to the color and shape of a banana?

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by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd have used apples to oranges that's simple enough

It’s admittedly a weak comparison, but I can’t seem to put it any other way that the difference between Smoltz and the other options was money and not that Smoltz was undeserving of a MLB roster spot.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Where have I said this?
not that Smoltz was undeserving of a MLB roster spot.

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by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Personally,

I think that it was both a cost-saving measure and a performance issue. If Smoltz had been pitching better, they wouldn’t have cared about spending the money. And even though he wasn’t as god-awful as he was made out to be, the Red Sox didn’t trust him to improve. Thus, they DFAd him. The end.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

As do I

and I’ve said so repeatedly.

Had he pitched better, he wouldn’t have gotten cut.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Key point
even though he wasn’t as god-awful as he was made out to be, the Red Sox didn’t trust him to improve. Thus, they DFAd him. The end.

That’s been my argument the whole time.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said that though.

I said his performance, coupled with his contract, was the reason he got cut.

If he had a 4.20 FIP, his CHONE projection for 2009 if I recall correctly, there’s no way they would have cut him. But he didn’t. So they did. And they saved $2M in the process, which was the gravy of the entire move, not the reason for it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

So what you're saying

Is that Smoltz was still a Major League pitcher but that they cut him because they had other guys who could do at least as well as him going forward and they could do that for free—-and didn’t cut him in the traditional sense of “this guy doesn’t deserve to be an MLB pitcher” as was implied by the original statement I was responding to?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Where is that implied here:
Or maybe. . .we think an about-to-be 43-year old coming off a season where he only pitched well against craptastic offensive teams isn’t a good bet. The Red Sox didn’t release him for nothing, after all.

He’s not wrong, not did he imply that he didn’t deserve to be on a major league roster.

By that rationale, you keep “implying” like he was the second coming of Jesus last year, that the Red Sox are cheap and don’t understand advanced metrics, and that he will without a doubt hit his CHONE projection or be better than that so that we should sign him and pencil him in for 30 starts.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Because that’s 99.9% of the time why teams cut players

Or the Red Sox do understand advanced metrics, recognized that he was probably about the same going forward as the rest of their options but cost more.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

And

I keep implying that Smoltz was the second coming of Jesus by saying he was a #4 starter for them. Keep goin with that hyperbole.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

You argue like a politician.

No basis in facts.

Sound ridiculous.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ironically

this is one of the rare lengthy arguments that appears on this board where no-one has suggested someone is using a “strawman argument”, where somebody kinda is.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Monk, you're just making a false ad hominem dichotomous pleonasm modus tollens.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 1, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That itself is a tautological corollary

It might even be a post hoc relativist red herring.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

What's even more interesting

(and not well-known) is that joker24 and fourstick are actually one and the same person. She does this to get attention.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

She?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, they are actually

a woman. Like I said, not well-known.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm kinda curious how you discovered this

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

can't believe you used the "l" word.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 1, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

i’m guessing moocow knows what baseballs are made from? it must pain him to see them struck with a stick like that.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Horsehide!

They’re made from HORSEhide!
:=8O

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm blogging from inside the house.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

guys

you can scroll the page right all you want, but this is too ad hominem for my tastes. If someone argues in a way that makes you ache to call them out on their aggravating failures of logic or nerve, there’s no benefit to be gained from arguing with them.

by DanUpBaby on Mar 1, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ad HOMOnem, I call them!

HIGH FIVE!!!! HIGH FIVE!!!!

High five?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 5:26 AM EST up reply actions  

High Five.

can’t leave ya hanging, Monk.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 2, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

He Seemed...

…to do well enough for us; why not spend a teensy bit moore and have ‘the experienced arm’ in the rotation/pen in case Garcia needs seasoning, Boggs is groomed as the next closer, and KMac doesn’t cut the mustard as a starter? Ispo…ummm, fatso.

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Given his level of performance?

Probably. They still had Tazawa, Bowden, and Byrd, and if they didn’t have Bucholz they probably still have Justin Masterson.

He stunk in Boston. Like shit. Due to bad luck or not, he was cut because they wanted to transition him out of the rotation and into the bullpen and didn’t want to pay him his roster bonuses in the bullpen. I can understand the money argument, but only in the context of horrible performance.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

No

I think they woulda ’penned him, maybe trotted him out to start in the play-offs.

Even so, I think he cud give us 1 moore year of 15-20 5-6 inning ‘quality’ starts of around 4.2 – 4.5 FIP, and gives us arm depth that the club sorely needs. It makes no difference to this cow if those 15-20 starts comes at the beginning or the end of the season, but u play to position yerself in the play-offs. Besides, poking the giant elephant in the room that no one else will acknowledge: what happens if Carp has an-udder injury? Then one of the Boggs/Garcia/KMac crowd would have to take his slot. I dunno, I have always been about keeping enough quality pitching around, especially if we’re talking less than 3 mil for 1 year. AND he’s a quality guy that everyone on the clud likes, for u intangible folks.

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought you meant to type

cud.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It was a RELEASE though, not a CONTRACT TRADE. That's not savings!

I see that there’s been a lot of argument on the subject presuming that the Sox saved something like 2M, but I don’t see how that happened

For example, see http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4405391 -

Whatever team decides to acquire Smoltz would be on the hook for the pro-rated amount of the major league minimum. In addition, Smoltz would get the rest of his $5.5 million salary from the Red Sox.

I think the Red Sox saved perhaps 100k on the contract once the Cardinals grabbed him. Given that him getting picked back up wasn’t even a lock, I don’t see an argument that money was a factor. And if I were to throw my own best guess into the mix, I’d suppose that it was done to give him a chance to pitch somewhere because it would happen rarely (if at all) on their team – for performance reasons.

by astrostl on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

that's not correct. by releasing him,

he lost the benefit of his substantial performance-based incentives.

the red sox, just by holding onto him, would have had to pay a million or so in incentives. by releasing him, they avoided that cost.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 1, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

AHHHH, ok :) I thought it was a debate based on the savings of his base remainder.

Thanks for the clarification, tom & joker.

by astrostl on Mar 1, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

It seems bizarre no-one else wanted him, really

although I suspect for that price he’d probably only want to be playing for a contender (and apparently he really enjoyed his last stint with the Cards, so maybe didn’t drive a very hard bargain). The Twins had big holes at 2B and 3B, so he seemed perfect for them (I know they signed O-Dog for 2B, but that cost more money and now they’re considering Nick Punto as a 3B option), Dodgers signed Carroll for more money, Phillies signed Polanco etc.

I sort of felt the same way about Russ Branyan; a lot of teams had DH or 1B holes this year, and, despite the injuries, his age, and his occasional lack of full-time action over the years, he still hit 31 jacks last year and is a very good hitter who ended up signing for a paltry sum.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe this is really where the economic pinch kicks in

perhaps teams are deciding they won’t go for their last trip to the bargain bin until someone is injured.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 9:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Overall,

in 2009, MLB revenues were up to a record $6.6 billion. Obviously, this is painting the economic situation with the broadest of brushes, but, given this fact, I find the lack of interest in good value free agents odd.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I've come over to the dark side of the pessimistic economic projections

For the shorter term anyway. I can understand why owners wouldn’t want to take too much risk on……but 2M for Felipe Lopez still doesn’t make much sense.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you saying

that not paying only $2MM for Felipe Lopez doesn’t make sense for cash-strapped teams? Because that’s my view.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven't looked at that yet

but I was thinking that several teams are on the hook for new stadiums and facilities. or maybe it’s the taxpayers…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Revenues can be up and profits can be down....

The entirety of the revenue jump could be explained by the Yankees winning the World Series in a brand new ballpark, while other team’s revenues declined slightly or were flat.

I bet you could find “record revenue” news items over the last five years for the US automobile industry.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 1, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That very well could be the case.

There is still revenue-sharing, though, and, if a club is cash-strapped, then doesn’t signing Lopez at only $2MM for one-year make that much more sense for the club?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

If a club is cash-strapped, then...

it’s very likely better not to spend $2MM at all.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 1, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

we'd have to pay

someone else at least league minimum for that roster spot, so i kind of mentally deduct that from the cost of lopex

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

seeing this kind of thing more often this year

makes me wonder a bit (just a bit) that the metrics many major league teams are using really singled these guys out and no one rated them that high

statistical collusion?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 1, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I'd been thinking the same thing about Lugo.

He’s actually fairly attractive trade bait, too, as the team they trade him to will reap the same salary advantages as the Cardinals have (i.e., having Boston on the hook for most of it). And I can’t see large differences between his skill sets and Floppy’s, other than that he doesn’t hit quite as well.

Thing is: who wants Lugo? What would they trade for him? It’ll be interesting to keep track of what scouts are sniffing around the ST sites where Lugo is playing or working out.

by StanTheManFan on Mar 1, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

my hope

wouid be a minor league, left-handed pitcher with some hope of a mlb future

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 1, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

would the reds take him in exchange for

The rights to jukich?

I don’t know who is backing up rolen or phillips there.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 1, 2010 12:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Maybe...

…the Mets would want Lugo?

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

to stan, their hitting

I assume you meant Lopez hits with more power than Lugo.
careers:
Lugo .271, with .182 K rate
Lopez ..269 with .209 K rate

by the Tewk on Mar 1, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions  

whart do either of those stats have to do with power?

and i don’t think either of their career numbers are relevant

chone 2010 wOBA
lugo – .314
lopez – .324

chone 2010 OPS
lugo – .689
lopez – .725

and floppy’s numbers are a product of some heavy regression which may or may not be fair. i wouldn’t be surprised to see him end the season around or north of 3 WAR. that’s a huge stretch for lugo. even if he gets 500-600 PAs

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

rangers looking for MIF depth

according to mlbtr

and they’ve got that baller farm system

get it done, mo! julio lugo for neftali feliz straight up!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

it is fair!

you can’t underestimate veteran leadership

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The death stare has got to be worth at least one win over replacement stare.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

for sure

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

5. Pinch hitter who can actually hit (hopefully)

Given all the roles above, I’m sure Floppy’ll be starting quite a few games; but when he’s not, he provides someone on the bench who might actually be an improvement over our lower lineup hitters in the late innings. Compared to the vacuous bench we’ve had of late, that sounds spectacular, at least for aesthetic reasons if not real baseball ones.

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 7:59 AM EST reply actions  

If Mather can actually come back (which I personally doubt)

I think even our bench is looking pretty solid now. Something like Floppy, Lugo, Craig, Mather, LaRue is a LOT better than last year.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

this

I have been more worried about the bench than the bullpen for some months now, and this is where I see Lopez contributing the most. On a TLR team, that’s not nothing.

As for DAR, I’m thinking we’ve broken even.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Amen

TLR likes double-switches. We’ll see Floppy subbed out for a defensive replacement when he starts and subbed in for his bat when he doesn’t. He’ll appear in a lot of games this season and log somewhere around 4 innings in the field per appearance.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Going to Jupiter next week.

Anyone have tips they want to share?

Will be there all week making sure no one is tipping pitches.

by Tom_Lawless_Bat_Flip on Mar 1, 2010 9:15 AM EST reply actions  

not a bad drive up to port st lucie

mets’ facility is fine (and beer is cheaper)!
usually hit both if there is an attractive team playing the mets

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 1, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

So, you go to ST games

when the other team has good-looking guys on it….

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Go early

and head to the back lots where the entire farm system practices on four fields at once. Hang out there and watch the future redbirds until game time.

It looks like I’ll be down there towards the end of March for some games. Hopefully you’ll have much better weather than they did last week.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're fair-skinned, a 55-gallon drum

of sunscreen is a good idea. In the Cardinals’ ballpark, there’s nowhere to sit that doesn’t put you in full sun.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 1, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Just wear a wide-brimmed hat

Preferably with a chin-strap. Last year, my hat blew off on a windy day and landed, somehow, on the head of the woman behind me.

Fortunately, she had a good sense of humor and I didn’t have head lice.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

If John Goodman is at the game

DO NOT, under any circumstances, shout Big Lebowski quotes in his direction for the majority of the game

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 1, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

coming from personal experience?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Think the deal changes the tone of spring camp a bit...
  • I thought it was a foregone conclusion that we’d start the season with 5 OF’s on the roster (with Boog healthy, that is), now we probably won’t, which means either Joe Mather or Allen Craig is going to be starting the season at AAA. I just get the feeling that it’s going to be Mather. Poor Allen Craig — the guy couldn’t catch a break if it hit him in the chest. He’s now been replaced by a veteran player who doesn’t even play his position. There would also be something to be said for carrying Shane Robinson or John Jay, as they could both spell Colby in CF if needed. Otherwise, the only guy on the roster who could manage CF other than Colby would be Ludwick, and Tony seems increasingly wary of putting him out there. I guess Greene could fill it in a pinch, but that’s assuming he makes the roster…
  • Julio Lugo literally does not have a spot on the roster now. In terms of roster flexibility, it’s a horrible idea to keep Lugo over a superior defender like Greene, who can play every position on the field except catcher (and that wouldn’t surprise me either, actually, the kid is a gamer defensively and he’ll play wherever you ask him to play). Lopez is going to take all of Lugo’s AB’s anyway, why not try and dump him for an Anthony Reyes-type prospect from another organization that needs a 4 infielder who can play both middle infield spots? Seems like the pertinent thing to do if you’re Mo. I guess it kinda depends on how Boog recovers, but how is Lugo the choice over Greene to fill in? That doesn’t make sense defensively.
  • Skip shouldn’t be seeing any AB’s against LHP now. Lopez has a .318 wOBA mark against lefties as a RHH for his career, and he had a .364 mark in 2009. If he could repeat that, we’re probably looking at a 3-4 WAR player on our hands, as well as someone who will probably be at least a type B next offseason. I’m just hoping he doesn’t have to supplant Freese full-time at 3B, if so we’d lose a very valuable platoon partner for Skip, as well as having to pretty much sour on Freese as a prospect.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 9:42 AM EST reply actions  

Possible Lugo trade:

To the NYY (who just signed Chan Ho Park over the weekend) for VEP’s favorite swingman reliever, Chad Gaudin.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Gaudin was mine before he was ever yours!

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 2, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Errrr, awkward, guys

Me and Chad have been dating about four and a half months now. I thought you knew about it. Sorry.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 5:29 AM EST up reply actions  

i was so hoping for a slapfight

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 2, 2010 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Unless he's traded in Spring

I’m sure Lugo makes the team. There’s just so little downside in sending Greene down to AAA to start the year compared to cutting Lugo loose.

If Ryan’s wrist looks like a real problem in two weeks, I’ll re-evaluate that.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think they'll cut Lugo

I do think they’re going to be actively looking to trade him though.

And I think there’s incredibly downside to sending Greene to AAA if one of Lopez or Lugo is going to be manning the SS position on opening day if Boog isn’t ready. That’s a pretty awful scenario if you ask me.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions  

lugo is sitting there for anybody's emergency

if no one comes calling, tg goes to aaa, but lugo will remain available from now on
sooner he is gone the better for us and for him

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 1, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

this is like the beginning of a Columbo

or the end of a CSI

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Just one more thing, Mr. Mozeliak

Maybe you could clear this up for me, I’m a little confused.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

4 vs 5 OF

Tony won’t carry 13 pitchers until the schedule gets late April when the schedule gets busy. Starting April 23rd the Cards have 30 games in 31 days. Prior to April 23rd, the Cards have 15 games in 18 days. So I see a 5 man bench.

With that in mind, I would think the team would carry a 5th OF instead of another 3rd utility IF. I think the bench will be LaRue, Lopez, Lugo, Mather and Craig breaking camp with Greene on the team if Ryan starts on the DL.

by ubeddie on Mar 1, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm thinking the other way

and hope we rarely carry 13 pitchers, if at all.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Kinda depends on who the fifth starter is though, doesn't it?

I don’t know if K-Mac can get stretched out enough this spring to throw that many starts in the month. If he has to miss a turn, we’ll need that 13th pitcher on the roster.

I actually think having Lopez on the team makes it a lot easier to carry 13 pitchers because of his utility, and I think that Tony would carry 13 pitchers all the time if he could. Not that I agree with it, I just think that’s how TLR thinks.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Hawksworth

if The Hawk is in the pen as long-man (which I expect he will be), he can always fill in for any starts anyone can’t make, Thompson-style. I don’t think it’ll kill us to give him the ball once a month.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's Hope He's Better...

…that Thompson-style…
:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

# 5 = 3 April starts

and having the starters go on normal four days rest, the fifth starter would be “needed” is April 11th, 18th & 27th. Even Tony will see that 13 pitchers to break camp is a poor use of roster space. Tony will need pinch hitters more than a 8th arm in the pen.

by ubeddie on Mar 1, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Doubts on Freese?

Although the Lopez acquisition could make Lugo extraneous, I see it more as a hedge on Freese. Ryan’s injury gives Freese the opportunity to win the position because I presume that Lopez will start at short, and Lugo will remain as the primary platoon for Skip. But I see Freese losing the position at 3B if he’s unable to outproduce Lopez by the time Ryan returns. If this occurs, Freese will be the backup and Lopez the starter, and Lugo will continue to platoon with skip.

I’m a pessimist on Freese, so I think Lujo will be staying put.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Mar 1, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

If Ryan can't go

and Lugo isn’t traded, Lugo will start opening day at SS. I fear this is exactly what will happen, unless Tyler Greene turns into Hanley Ramirez with the bat in ST.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

my 2 cents

is that lugo and floppy will get early starts at ss in order to judge how bad they really are
they know tg is better, so he’ll get more b-games and dh deals for his at-bats

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Mar 1, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

you and your damn bullet points

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting

-Lugo was worth “Chris Duncan” on the open market last year. So, no, I’m not particularly sanguine about the prospect of getting anything valuable for him a year later.

- I think Lopez’ presence makes Jay more likely to go back down to Memphis and for Mather to remain because there’s less need for a LH bench bat (this assumes Mather can play a passable CF)

- Agree that Skippy should never bat against LHP. Ever. Even if we didn’t have Lopez, Skip should not take any at bats against LHP.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 1, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If Mather can't prove he can play CF

Jay pretty much has to make the team unless we sign Baldelli. I am still not convinced Mather can even hit yet.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 1, 2010 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  

can Rocco play CF anymore?

I haven’t seen anything reliable about Mather’s health so it’s tough to say. The Lopez signing is most devastating to Ruben Gotay so perhaps the likely outcome is just a swap out for him on the 25-man, and Mather and Jay take the last two spots (leaving Craig and Greene out in the cold, assuming a 12-man staff).

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 1, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i think jay's only shot

is if mather can’t go, and that’s not ideal, with jay and colby both lefty

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

If Mather is healthy

he’ll be a fine CF backup so I would keep Craig instead of Jay. Greene is in Memphis unless Ryan is on the DL when the Cards break camp. Greene needs to keep playing instead of sitting on the bench.

by ubeddie on Mar 1, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That is how I feel also

I want Greene in Memphis getting steady playing time. I also don’t want him to take playing time away from a healthy Ryan.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 1, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i would take a chris duncan type player

for lugo in a heart beat. anything we can get back for him that’s not in an area that’s currently a logjam on the ML roster is a plus. especially a guy with the kind of upside that duncan has

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

so you would take dunc back for lugo?

that’d be…funny?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

well,

that another question. probably not because we have good outfield depth. also because of the relationship he has with daddy and uncle tony

i’d really try for a pitcher, 3B or CF

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

If we could get a Rich Hill-type (obviously not Rich Hill, but someone else who has shown some talent but basically nosedived) that'd be good

or something like Matt Capps when he was dumped by the Pirates. Just another reclamation option.

That said, I think I’d rather wait until we know Boog’s status a little better. If he’s out for a month or two we’re only one injury away from Lugo being an everyday starter, and we don’t have the Memphis depth (Hoffpauir, Barden) that we did in the MIF last year.

There’s Lugo, Greene, Lopez behind the starting duo of Skip & Boog, and then the next in line is probably Aaron Luna (who has an iron glove and may well be an outfielder in the org’s eyes now) or Donovan Solano (who is almost certainly well below replacement level) or something.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 6:09 AM EST up reply actions  

That was before his performance with the bat in St. Louis though

which was pretty good and closer to his career numbers. If someone is looking for a utility infielder that can play against LHP, he would be a good option for them.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 2, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

How is Lugo the choice over Greene to fill in?

Lugo has proven that he can get on base at the major league level.

Greene hasn’t.

It’s not a no brainer either way, of course. I, too, would shop Lugo to see what shiny bauble I could get, but I wouldn’t just throw him away on the hopes that Tyler Greene’s bat will be serviceable enough to get his defense on the roster.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 9:47 AM EST reply actions  

Let me put it to you this way.

Greene could hit at replacement level and still be worth more than Lugo playing SS. Over his last 1000 innings at SS, Lugo is a -18 defender. MINUS EIGHTEEN! That’s fucking awful. Greene is probably a +5 defender or better at both 2B and SS. Considering the bats we currently have in the lineup, I would be more than happy to fall on the sword of Greene’s offense to have his defense at SS until Boog returns.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure.

But it’s no guarantee that he’ll hit even replacement level. He could hit far below replacement level like he did last year (i.e. -5.1 batting RAR in a mere 116 PA), in which case his offensive “value” would far outstrip his defensive value.

I know Greene had a great 388 PA in AAA last season, but I’d rather he start in AAA to make sure it wasn’t a fluke before I trade away Lugo and wish that we had him instead of Greene in June. After all, we’re talking about a guy before last season whose highest wOBA above low-A ball was .339 in double-A. Not exactly awe-inspiring, that.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Why?

Lopez can be a shitty SS too, and he hits better than Lugo does. If they can get anything of value for Julio Lugo, that deal needs to be done. Lopez makes Lugo pretty much an irrelevant player. Lopez is better defensively at 2B and 3B, equally bad at SS, and offensively is probably the better player at this stage in his career. He’s also a switch hitter. Why carry two guys who can’t play SS worth a shit when you only have to carry one?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

With Lopez,

I don’t really see a good reason to keep Lugo around, either. I don’t want TLR to keep around a handful of MIFers again this season, especially when we could have decent bench bats like Mather (if healthy) or Craig.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Lugo has been horrible at SS. I read the argument that his knee was bothering him all this time and that his range is actually better now even though he is older. I’m skeptical. T. Greene has a ton of range and a gun for an arm.

by jjray on Mar 1, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not arguing that Lugo is a better defensive SS than Greene

He’s not. I am just not ready to hand the keys of prime back-up SS to a guy who might be +5 (or heck, +10 or +15, what the heck) with the glove but might also be -20 with the bat, that’s all.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

That's probably equivalent to what Lugo is, though

he’s probably -10 (or even -15) with the glove, -10 with the bat.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 6:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Reason #2 on your list

is exactly why I was hoping and praying this signing wouldnt happen!!!!

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Mar 1, 2010 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

you know TLR will be looking for any chance possible to pull Freese out and plug Lopez into the starting 3rd base spot.

Milt Thompson FTW!

by gossard56 on Mar 1, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

if he does

then we’ll need lugo to platoon with skip. i think freeze will be fine, but no one knows, and i don’t see us shopping lugo until they can evaluate how things are shaking out at 3B.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

alt link

here

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I saw that in the Fenton store the other day, lol

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 1, 2010 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hawk's grandpa brought the Olympics to BC

http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/mar/01/blake-hawksworths-blog-tribute-my-grandpa/

I gotta do some diggin round the gee-d

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:08 AM EST reply actions  

they're still impressed with Boggs

"When he came down, it was incredible," said reliever Kyle McClellan. "He was throwing 98. It was pretty impressive….I think it’s something where you are only asked to go a short period of time, so you are going to go with everything you’ve got where as a starter sometimes you feel like you have to hold back a little bit. You’re more aggressive in the bullpen because you are only in there for a short period of time. I felt like he was real aggressive last year. All in all, it was a great transition for him."

http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/feb/28/mitchell-boggs-hoping-move-bullpen-means-stay-st-l/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

There's no question he's got the juice to be an effective bullpen guy

He even has a pretty good secondary pitch. The problem is his walk rate, which can’t stay at 6 per 9 innings out of the bullpen like it was last year. He’d need to drop that by half in order to be effective. Juicing his fastball up by 3-4 mph probably isn’t going to help him harness his control any either.

I really hope in happens, because if both he and Motte could come out of the bullpen throwing gas it would be a tremendous asset to the club, as well as making Franklin a more effective closer, kinda like Todd Jones was when following Zumaya and Rodney in Detroit. I’m just not getting my hopes up.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Indeed

You can’t walk the bases loaded like he did against the Cubs. Potential yes, but not fulfilled.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m really down on the bullpen this year. It seems like (as last year), everyone’s just assuming the best-case scenario for all our pitchers. Really, our main two right-handed set-up guys are Boggs and Motte, and they haven’t proven anything at MLB level yet. On the contrary, they’ve both actually shown very worrying signs of major problems (Boggs’ BB rate, Motte’s dinger rate and inability to pitch to lefties).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm more worried about Franklin than Motte or Boggs.

"What's your favorite Chuck Palahniuk book?"

"I like the one about the alienated character who finds the socially unacceptable way of coping with modernity."

by hazel on Mar 1, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not

he’s crafty and experienced, and I think that accounts for something. He also doesn’t put unnecessary men on base as much as the other two.

He’s not going to be the 2009 version more than likely, but he’s bound to be better than the 2008 version. If he’s as good as he was for us in 2007 I will be happy.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

unless it's the end of the season

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW

I’m not convinced that he’s “bound” to be better than the 2008 version. I’d say 08 is closer to his true talent than 09 or 07, in any case (and he was actually arguably better in 07 if i recall correctly, because his BB% was a massive outlying career-low, whereas 09 was more or less built on a super lucky season of HR prevention).

That said, I too am less concerned about Franky than the other two because we more or less know what we’re likely to get – if luck remains more or less normal, he’ll be a bit above replacement level. Boggs and Motte could do anything, more or less – totally suck or actually be genuinely good.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 6:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

I have the most faith in Boggs, oddly enough

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

me too

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm almost there myself

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year I definitely was not

assuming best-case scenario for the bullpen. I was hugely concerned about it last year. This year, I’m not nearly as concerned. Maybe I should be, but I think we’re in a much better position in regards to pitching (especially bullpen) than this time last year.

by WyoCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure I agree at all

last year at this point we had two very good young arms who had spent 2008 DECIMATING triple-A hitters; Motte, in particular, was just unhittable in 08 and both looked likely to be above average. We’d also just signed two decent lefties (which we also have this year, obviously). We also had Jess Todd, who looked likely to help out at some point and went on to have a good year closing in Memphis. Also, Kyle McClellan looked like he was at least going to be a solid set-up guy, after a promising 2008.

Basically, we had some talent that we could reasonably expect to do well in the majors.

This year, Perez is gone, Todd is gone, Motte has downgraded expectations after a pretty awful start to his MLB career, and there isn’t really the depth in Memphis. Sanchez looks like the only impact arm and he’s probably not ready (or likely to help out much in 2010), and so we’re hoping Mitchell Boggs, whose velocity is interesting but who hasn’t dominated AAA like Motte or Perez did in 08, and who had major control problems ongoing throughout the last couple of years, to come straight in and be our best arm in the pen.

Add to that the fact that KMac, who may not be great, but who is at least a little bit above replacement, may be moving into the rotation, and that’s one more arm we’ve lost.

Also, we got kinda lucky last year that the pen didn’t hurt us more. Franklin (who we know about) AND ALSO Kyle McClellan (whose case is less often mentioned) both had really lucky years. If they both had neutral luck, we’d have blown a LOT more leads, most likely. We ALSO had a bunch of starters who massively exceeded expectations in terms of their run-prevention AND innings pitched, so the pen actually had less to do than we could reasonably have expected.

I am really, really concerned about the pen this year. I think it could be 2008-level bad. Our lineup and rotation should (if everyone’s healthy) be good enough to keep us in contention, but the pen is the biggest problem, IMO.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 6:26 AM EST up reply actions  

monk

do you think todd would make the roster out of camp if we still had him? the article i read on the indians lists him as bullpen depth in the minors, and the indians as the longest of vegas-shots for the world series, at 200-1 (the pirates were 150-1). now it did say, though, that the indians have a pretty good pen.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think there's a chance

I don’t think he’s ever going to be a lights-out guy in the majors, but he could have a decent career for a few years as a set-up guy. Guy had nearly a 5-1 K:BB ratio in AAA in 2009, and did enough in a short MLB stint to suggest he could end up being useful. He gets GBs (although he didn’t really do that very well in mlb) with his sinker/cutter thing, and his slider looks a decent out pitch, and he seems to have conquered some of the command issues he had as a starter. I don’t think he’ll be lights out in the majors but he’s as good a prospect as, say, Jason Motte for sure, I reckon.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Joe Mather, that devil

he likes Sleepless in Seattle

oho, here’s one for the Man Stew…

XBOX 360, we play NBA 2K10. Freese, Ludwick, Brendan Ryan, we have a team going. We are playing a season together as the Golden State Warriors. We all play on the same team and play a season against the computer. We are on game 3 this year, we just started. It’s hilarious. There is a lot of chirping back and forth at each other, pass the ball, get out of the key – there are a lot three in the key’s, a lot of traveling. A lot of chirping, it gets pretty intense. We liked the name and the colors, so that’s why we choose them.

Kyle McClellan on card game of choice:
Rain delay?: We play cards. Texas Hold’em. I don’t play at a casino. I play blackjack at the casino but I play hold’em in the locker room.

I forgot where I left off, so I’ll start with Stav.

Nick Stavinoha
Allen Craig
Trever Miller
Kyle McClellan
Rich Hill
Joe Mather

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Rich Hill seems like a weird dude

But possibly also kinda cool.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 1, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Card holding?

KMac might regret the “I play hold’em in the locker room” remark.

"How long have you known me, Jack? And you still don't know how to spell my name."

- Yogi after receiving a check from Jack Buck made out to Bearer

by blueinmemphis on Mar 1, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you sayin' about the Man Stew?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

More importantly, what will the Man Stew say?

"How long have you known me, Jack? And you still don't know how to spell my name."

- Yogi after receiving a check from Jack Buck made out to Bearer

by blueinmemphis on Mar 1, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

this is the same Man Stew that shaves each other's hair for fun, then beat each other up after walk-offs.

It’s not like K-Mac is Matt Stairs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Lost me at Matt Stairs...

"How long have you known me, Jack? And you still don't know how to spell my name."

- Yogi after receiving a check from Jack Buck made out to Bearer

by blueinmemphis on Mar 1, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna say "google 'matt stairs pounding'"
“Not that I don’t feel like I’m part of the team, but when you get that nice celebration coming in the dugout and you’re getting your ass hammered by guys, there’s no better feeling than to have that done.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

oh boy

well, he’s canadian.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks

for the quote. Firewall would definitely have stopped the Google search.

"How long have you known me, Jack? And you still don't know how to spell my name."

- Yogi after receiving a check from Jack Buck made out to Bearer

by blueinmemphis on Mar 1, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Hawk

certainly has a talented and successful family.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

with a name like Blake Hawksworth, how can he go wrong

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

His sister

Erin… she’s a freaking hottie!

by streamman on Mar 1, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

*Googles*

Yes. Yes she is.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 1, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: anybody ever blown off a camera traffic light ticket?

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 1, 2010 10:32 AM EST reply actions  

Yes.

They key with those is whether they can see your face. Just because it’s your car doesn’t mean it was you. If you have a tinted lip on your windshield or were wearing a cap and sunglasses, you can probably fight it safely by claiming it wasn’t you.

Although, this comment can now be used against you :-)

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Why? There's been no confession on here...

…simply asking if anyone (not anyone ELSE) has blown off one.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say that there was an admission of guilt

just joking that this statement could be used against him.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

hahah

ya, i sent the ticket to TLH (rizzo and assoc) and they said they don’t do shit with them cause it’s no points. It’s “due” today but I’m at work and I’m totally not driving downtown to pay it.

it was a lame ass “rolling stop” when I was turning right on red. I’m not that worried cause I just get the overall impression it’s nonsense.

They have a little affidavit you can send in giving you the option to ID the driver…I think I’m totally going to put “unkown woman from bar”.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Rolling stop?

Stop this madness.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that's just how I roll

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 1, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i rolled through a stop sign once

next thing you know i am being handed three tickets

by d-dee on Mar 1, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i recall hearing about research on stop light cameras showing that about half the tickets issued

were for people making legal right turns on red.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 1, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure it's mind-numbing work for the cops that have to watch these videos

before (and after, I think) each shift.

The thing that makes me most irritated about the red-light cameras is how the yellow lights have gotten so much shorter. I know there is no across-the-board standard, but there’s not even a standard within a mile stretch of road.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

It's generally outsourced to a private company,

frequently not even located in the state in which the cameras are located. A retired police officer reviews the tape and makes the final determination on whether a ticket should be sent. In many cases, the video is not even reviewed by an active police officer in the jurisdiction where the footage was shot.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I read an article on this

that quoted a city police officer saying he had to review video at the beginning (and I think end) of his shift.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

the length of a yellow technically shouldn't matter

as I understand it, a yellow means “stop if you can”

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I think what spants is saying,

is that the cameras get you when the light turns red, which catches people in the inersection who decided that they could not safely stop for the yellow light as having run a red light.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and if you do try to stop and end up way in front of the line,

they’ll give you a red-light ticket. It happened to a friend of mine.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I know a little bit about timing the yellow

I think the “shortening” the yellow to give out more tickets is totally made up. I don’t disagree that there is always potential for a conspiracy. But in general, the traffic engineer times the yellow and all-red phases to eliminate the dilemma zone (i.e., a person can’t stop in time, or go safely across the intersection). Enforcement is done by the police, or a company contracted to operate the camera. Technically, it is possible for the traffic engineer (public works) to collude with the police into doing something dishonest. But it is highly unlikely. I would guess that no sane city manager would allow such a behavior knowing the liability associated with shortening of the yellow to be unsafe.

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by totalloser on Mar 2, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess not. It's just that I've likewise heard

these rumors, but no one has ever mentioned an actual instance where this has happened, e.g. intersection x, where yellow was previously 4 seconds pre installation and is now 3.5 seconds after installation.
But I don’t want to come across as totally advocating these things. I think there are trade-offs in safety benefits: reduced angle crashes but increase in rear ends.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Mar 3, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, the next time I hear in advance where

a camera is to be installed, I will go personally measure the yellow lights in the intersection. Then I’ll measure them post installation of said camera. I shall compare notes. If there are any discrepancies, will that suffice?

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 3, 2010 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

you are a true engineer

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Mar 3, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought

as long as you had penetrated the intersection by the time it turned red, you were ok

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by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

that's what...

wow. I can’t go there.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

good thing

they don’t have those in Decatur, IL then, because that has never been my understanding of the rule.

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by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks Jesse White

Illinois rules of the road

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by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It says

“Yellow light – The yellow light warns that the signal is changing from green to red. When the red light appears, you may not enter the intersection.”

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by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

so as long as I enter it before it turns red, I'm ok, right?

(no snarkiness involved with this comment)

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by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Depends on the cop, I guess.

I mean, if it’s been yellow for two seconds and you gun it to get into the intersection, I’m pretty sure you could be ticketed.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

if they really wanted to

then they could just say they did so because of speeding or reckless driving. Thankfully the cops in my town don’t seem to care about traffic incidents too much. must be all the drugs and violence…I love Decatur.

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by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

When I still lived in Neoga

I could smell Decatur if the wind was blowing the right way

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by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 1, 2010 11:24 PM EST up reply actions  

the smell of money

(what my grandpa said since he was an engineer at Staley’s)

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by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Better than the smell of money around Neoga...

manure!

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by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 2, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats where red light cameras are good

there is proof you were not in the intersection when the light changed.

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Good...

more people need to drive like they have somewhere to be. That cop should get an award for that.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 1, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

They should write tickets for not paying attention at stoplights

There is nothing more maddening during traffic time than being 10 cars back and everyone taking 5 seconds each to go. You know the people in front of you are at some point in the near future going to accelerate: act like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Q: What's the shortest amount of time in the world?

A: The time between the light turning green and the guy behind you honking his horn.

My mother told me this joke about 40 years ago, before I could even drive. It’s stuck with me ever since; I’m always ready to go as soon as the light turns green.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 2, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I for one appreciate the effort.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I've always admire people who

“drive like a champion” as Carolla puts it… There have been several times I’ve driven around people who couldn’t figure out how to navigate the intersection… it’s a very freeing experience. 6ly you feel like you robbed a bank got away then nailed the mayor’s wife and he’s none the wiser when you drive around those idiots…

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by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

is this st louis

i’ve always driving in st louis to be nice. surprisingly good drivers

better than columbia, houston or austin, at least

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by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Nah mostly around Chicago...

I drive like a maniac around here… I think you have to sideswipe a cop car then give him the finger to get a ticket around here. And Missouri drivers are idiots… This is an undebateable truth.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely

St. Louis drivers don’t have a goddamn clue what’s going on around their car. Not to mention they’re insanely inconsiderate (e.g. stopping in the middle of intersections, etc.). It’s a joke how bad the drivers are in the Lou.

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by mojowo11 on Mar 2, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions  

that was the bait...

This was a week after the same cop wrote her a ticket from “running” a red light when she was already in the intersection before it turned red.

The judge let her off on both tickets. She had to be at court for both of them on the same day.

by Evilfrog on Mar 1, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

that is the law in arizona.

i believe states/cities have different laws about this.

in oregon, you can get a ticket for running a yellow light.

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by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The rule I have always gone by

Their is normally solid white lines defining the lanes coming up to a traffic light. If I am in those solid lanes when it is yellow than I go through the light. If I am not than I stop at it.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 1, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

if it's icy conditions and i'm not tailgating

it’s safer to go through the yellow. i’d rather get a ticket than skid out in an intersection

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The fun is when you go from a town with mostly 5 second yellows

to one with mostly 3 second yellows or vice versa… makes for some interesting intersection navigation.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 1, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The speed limits are high enough that it doesn't matter

You really don’t want to be going more than 60 on Providence anyway.

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by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

south of stadium

i’d usually go 65-70 on providence

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by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i used to love driving Rock Quarry

With its super windy roads in my little CRX with upgraded suspensions. It was like driving a super fast golf cart.

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 1, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i had to take that to get to work

it was fun to fly down

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by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Lucky.

They’re rampant here. And they really like to come out the weekends they know all of the out of town parents will be here. Welcome to Clemson y’all! here’s a ticket!

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by ClemsonGirl on Mar 1, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Not according to Starman

“I watched you very carefully. Red light stop, green light go, yellow light go very fast”

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually there is a an across-the-board standerd

There’s an equation (that escapes me) that determines the amount of yellow. examples would be something like: 30mph = 3sec, 40mph = 3.5 sec.

A math nerd buddy of mine got ticked for running a red light (in Kansas City) and felt that the yellow was to short. So he found out the equation, and did the math. Turned out the yellow was to short, so he brought the evidence to court, and got out of the 80$ ticket.

He makes like 300k a year and all the work to get out of the 80$ ticket must have cost him 10hrs. Not even close to being worth his while.

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by YesWeOquendo on Mar 1, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

There is not a universal standard.

I was just reading about this the other day. Let me see if I can find the article.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I can't find it right now.

There is a window. IIRC, the window for yellow lights is 2-6 seconds. That’s a wide variance in terms of driving. And if there was a legally enforceable standard, then why have yellow lights at intersections with red-light cameras gotten shorter? Your friend may have had his ticket thrown out, but they didn’t fix that light, I promise you.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

In Illinois

The minimum yellow time you can have is 3 seconds… Typically that is the base you work off of when doing signal timing unless it’s a really wide intersection or rather busy intersection in which case it’s not uncommon to see a 5 second yellow to help calm the traffic at the signal down. I could go into more about this but I’m sure no one really cares.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 1, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

All I know is that

the yellows on Kingshighway got shorter when they installed cameras. Chippeway and Hampton, too.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

My wife

has lost us a lot of fucking money at the intersection. Damn it to hell.

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That light is jacked up. I try to avoid that one

and Chippewa-Kingshighway.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah. Just take side streets.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, I wish.

My street dead ends one block from Hampton and goes one-way in the wrong direction three blocks from Kingshighway. It’s pretty much impossible for us to not go through those two intersections a few times a day.

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That really sucks.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

They probably reoptimized the controller

when they were out there doing other work.

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by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I have two in STL

got them and threw them in the trash, thought it was total BS. Got a letter or two from the city , which for awhile wasn’t even pursuing them. Some city official came out and said they basically didn’t have the resources to enforce them, and only about 1/3rd of the people actually paid them, so they just took the,money from those suckers and called it a day. However, more recently, I think the city turned the unpaid tickets over to a law firm that is now handling the matter. I got two letters maybe, and then they stopped. Haven’t heard anything since. The tickets don’t show up on my driver’s record and as far as I know they haven’t affected my credit. That being said, I’m not advocating this way of dealing with it. If I really had the time, money, and inclination to raise a fuss, I’d be down at the city courthouse contesting the tickets right now on a constitutional defense of a violation of my 14th amendment due process rights. But I’ve got a hot pcket in the microwave, so…eh

by mattyp on Mar 1, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I just pay them.

Considering I break like 9000 laws every day driving, I think of it as karma for never getting pulled over.

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

well i'm not all about fighting the good fight

A judge already took on that task…donno whatever came about it.

generally speaking I HATE red light runners…those fuckers that smoke the red light in the middle of rush hour traffic so “generally speaking” i support them, HOWEVER, when it’s 3am not a car in sight and someone makes a legal right turn on red…or those lights that never change at 3am…those piss me off too. like road rage piss me off.

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by rocKStark5 on Mar 1, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, the constitutional defense has been raised a number of times

and in the past it’s usually been rejected. However, a circuit court judge (fed. court of appeals) in Florida just ruled them unconstitutional. That’s actually a pretty big deal. From there it can appealed to the Supreme Court, although it doesn’t mean they’ll decide to review it. But the constitutional defense does have its merits; There is a presumption of guilt that effects a kind of inversion of the burdens of proof. You don’t know if the camera was faulty that day, you don’t really have the means to prove it was, you usually aren’t even congizant of the fact you’re doing something wrong (I got two and never knowingly ran a red light) so by the time you get the ticket you’re pretty much clueless as to the circumstances surrounding the alleged violation. What it basically amounts to is a de facto presumption of guilt that you have very little means to contest.

by mattyp on Mar 1, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

just out of curiosity
you’re pretty much clueless as to the circumstances surrounding the alleged violation

how is the situation different from long term surveillance (of the type that one sees regularly in movies/tv, and I assume happens, if infrequently, in real life). Wouldn’t all the same problems about being able to contest specifics on a particular day months earlier come into play there.

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm...good question

I’m sure there isn’t a bright line delineation, but I assume those surveillance methods hold a lot more weight and are more valid because they can establish a pattern of behavior. Also, just pragmatically, if you’re engaged in the kind of conduct that warrants sophisticated surveillance, I think the presumption is a lot stronger that you knew what you were doing. I’m more likely to remember that sale of 4 kilos of coke two months ago than the time I missed that no right turn on red sign.

by mattyp on Mar 1, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't there also

some question as to the validity of the issuing authority sending you a ticket and essentially telling you that the burden of proof (in terms of identifying the offender) lies with you. I mean they have no real method of proving who the driver actually is right?

by streamman on Mar 1, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

the burden of proof is still on them...just plead not guilty on the ticket.

when the prosecutor shows the vehicle speeding (or whatever) and claims it was you, you can testify (truthfully, of course) that it wasn’t you and the jury can make its determination whether the prosecution has proved its case.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 1, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Cities in some states have tried to avoid constitutionality issues

by declaring the citations to be “civil,” which means that they don’t even have to clear that high of a burden of proof hurdle.

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by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Even in a civil case

the burden of proof still has to reach an outcome of “a preponderance of the evidence”, as opposed to “beyond a reasonable doubt” or “clear and convincing evidence”. To put it in terms of percentage, more than 50% likely that you’re guilty.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes,

but there isn’t a prosecutor and there isn’t the highest burden on the government in proceedings over a civil fine. They still have the burden, but the “I wasn’t driving” defense seems to me to be less formidible in the civil setting.

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--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't put a specific burden of proof...

in my first post because I didn’t actually know how it was treated in whatever jurisdiction we’re talking about (Is it St. Louis? I don’t live there anyway so it wouldn’t matter…)

But in any event, perhaps the “I wasn’t driving” defense is “less formidable” because it is a pretty crappy defense in most cases. And if it’s a civil case, you can always bring in the third-party defendant who was driving your car and pin it on them. Fuck’em.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Mar 1, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I imagine a father doing this to his child,

and I find it pretty funny.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Oversight?

I think it’s mentioned briefly elsewhere here, but long-term surveillance may often be preceded by a warrant. Also, doesn’t the fact that a charge based at least in part on long-term surveillance is usually supported by either an arrest warrant or an indictment? I would think this level of scrutiny is far greater than in a red-light camera case.

Also, I’m not sure that traffic violations are actually “criminal” violations in all jurisdictions, in the sense that rules of criminal procedure or typical rights of a person charged with a crime attach. I may be waaaaaay off on this one, though.

by sivadds on Mar 1, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that type of long-term surveillance requires judicial authority.

At least, that’s what I learned from watching The Wire.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

When an officer sees you himself, it's one thing.

But when there is electronic monitoring involved, it’s another.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

I’m in the middle of re-watching the series, and my husband is watching them for the first time. He got a kick out of Fuzzy Dunlop.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you know

That Avon Barksdale is a real person? The even have a documentary out about him called “The Avon Barksdale Story: Legends of the Unwired (2009)”

by FlimtotheFlam on Mar 1, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

ya, but the character was actually a composite of several late 80s early 90s drug guys

so while the name may be real, his story and the series wont match up.

but one of the guys the character avon is based on played the deacon who helps out cutty and bunny starting in season 3

by FunkeeC on Mar 1, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i rewatch the series periodically

currently at the end of season 3, so much stuff that i notice stuff ive missed on rewatch 3 and 4

by FunkeeC on Mar 1, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I just started my epic journey

I’m two episodes into season one. Luckily, my friends are obsessed, so I can just borrow the DVDs from them.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 1, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I want to buy them,

but it’s been a long, cold winter which means business is halted. Spring is coming soon, I hope.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

and i say

it’s alright?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

wut

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by spants on Mar 1, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

just wait

someone else is bound to get it

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by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

...say wut again.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

beatles

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah...

We use our landlord’s internet. He received a letter from Charter via HBO, so we don’t do that anymore.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

my public library has it

for a dollar a week, I can check out an entire season. makes for some intense watching that way!

by baked mcbride on Mar 1, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

That is awesome.

Yeah, with Josh not working much, we’re tearing through the seasons.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

i just watched that episode last night

working my way through for a second time

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Where does Robocop fit in?

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by ducttape16 on Mar 1, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about St. Louis

but in Chicago red light tickets are a massive source of revenue. If you don’t pay, your car is eventually booted/impounded.

It does’nt matter if the camera has your face. They aren’t moving violations. You are responsible for your car.

by sdrone on Mar 1, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

In St. Louis,

red light tickets are in conflict with other laws. That’s one reason why the city cannot come after you for not paying.

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by spants on Mar 1, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

in soviet russia you give traffic lights camera tickets.

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by rocKStark5 on Mar 1, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

One of my favorite stories about the Soviet Union...

The black market was huge obviously, because that was a way to get stuff without bribing someone. But apparently there was a black market for burnt out light bulbs.
Why the demand for dead light bulbs? Well, you couldn’t ever get a new one on your own. But you could switch out the dead one for one at work. The gov’t replaced its own bulbs no problem, but you had to have a dead one to switch with or else it was obvious that you stole it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

so,

what did they do with the light bulb that went out in the first place that required them to need a new bulb? Did they throw it out and curse their luck that they had to go buy a new burnt out bulb?

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by scoot on Mar 1, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I've always wondered that myself

Maybe it was just to stock up on them when the stores ran out?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

the quality control guys in lightbulb factories

are your suppliers. the end-consumer wants to end up with two working lightbulbs.

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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want to know how these cameras ever got put up.

Doesnt’ the government in theory work for us? Who out there thought we needed these cameras and was beating down the door to city hall demanding they be put up? Shouldn’t there be some way we can petition to get them taken down and tell the city if they want a fund raiser to hold a policeman bikini car wash… ok maybe that’s a bad idea, but you get the point…

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by ducttape16 on Mar 1, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

There are major $ deficits in local gov'ts,

often because of the increase in costs in pensions for police, firefighters, and other gov’t employees. Cities are trying to make up the difference. I have lots of other thoughts on this matter, but I shall no bite my tongue.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

haha. yeah

we’re getting close to politics here, so I’ll desist, but I thought “eff those GD red light cameras” was one area we all could agree.

by mattyp on Mar 1, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Which is the point I was trying to make...

Once again I suck at wordsmithing…

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by ducttape16 on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh I hate them.

But I understand, too. Meh.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

presumably, the cost of a ticket includes the probability of being caught

if you’re going to dramatically increase the likelihood of being ticketed, it seems like there should be a commensurate decrease in the penalty.

Personally, I don’t think we should have laws/regulations that we can’t/don’t enforce, so I support the idea of this type of system, but only once it reaches the (presumed) cost equilibrium.

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

There is a decrease in the penalty.

If you’re caught by an actual police officer, it is a moving violation, which means points, or lawyers and fines. If you take the points, your insurance can go up and you could eventually lose your license.

If you are caught by a camera, it’s a non-moving violation. There is a $100 fine across the board, no matter how many of these tickets you get. No points, no insurance issues. And on top of those reductions in penalties, the City of Saint Louis cannot force you to pay. (But the county and assorted municipalities can, so don’t mess around, people!)

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

ah, good to know

happily, I have been without car for the last 6 years, but I’m sure that’ll change before too long.

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

In Memphis they put them up at locations where red-light running is rampant

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by blueinmemphis on Mar 1, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

New competition for catcher?!?!

Boooog?!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 11:13 AM EST reply actions  

he allegedly has a pitch, too, y'know.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Boog is the next Miles?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

he's friends with Miles

he’s been plotting for years

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

GRIT + Cheesy Mustache = New Miles.

Well, maybe half a mile. He’s still need to beat up a thug to go the full Mile.

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

....he's a lover not a fighter?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's hopin' he doesn't love a thug.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Thug Love...

…sounds like a scary alternative website…
:=8.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

it depends

is it Thug Love or Thug Luv

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

…I just went to a scary visual place…

:=8.

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Thuuuug Luuuuuuv

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm stunned you found a SFW one.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Searched with "luv", not "love"...

Also didn’t realize “Thug Luv” is a Bone Thugs ’n Harmony song…

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I enjoyed

how in concert they still played the song, with Tupac’s part on tape

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

?

what’s poppin Yadi
put your mother-truckin hand on your strap yadi
Thug Luv Yadi we can do this like gangstas
and slug it out or be like punks and punk it out
pull your strap on me Yadi and you better kill be thug life baby

I’ll probably be punished for hard living blind to the facts
Thugs is convicts in gods prison hand on the strap
Praying to father please forgive me police be rushing when they see me
I flaunted America’s most wanted live on TV life
Pleasure and pain stuck in this game holler my name
We all gone die we bleed through similar veins
You’re explain to me now don’t panic when my gun burst
Heard the last jam Yadi this ones worse
My XXXX bone held the chrome till I came home
Thug Luv players tell these bitch Yadis bring it on
I caught a plane out to Cleveland late last evening
To help my yadis clean up some yadis no longer breathing now
Who you believe in hit the weed and breathe it’s a
Cold ass the world them yadis kill you in your sleep
Until they stop me bury murder me or drop me
I got Thug Luv for my nationwide posse feel me

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I Think...

…I’m going to pull all of my arms and legs off now…

:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

you have arms?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

victory is mine!

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

For those who haven't seen yet....

MLB Network’s “30 Clubs in 30 Days” will be showing the Cardinals on Saturday, March 13th at 5:00, 9:00, and 10:00 EST

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 11:26 AM EST reply actions  

That's my birthday!

Too bad I don’t have MLB network.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Mar 1, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Anybody else watchin' the Pine Tar Game?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

watched it saturday

btw Lou Pinellia and Hal McRae as players cracked me up

by _pistol_ on Mar 1, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

OT

For those who are interested in MLB At Bat, it should be available tomorrow!

Bought it last year, and it was worth every penny of the $10. (cheaper than a gameday audio subsctiprion).
 mid-season free video was a bonus

by _pistol_ on Mar 1, 2010 12:06 PM EST reply actions  

I bought it last year as well

And it was worth every penny.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Mar 1, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

post this tomorrow plz

so i don’t forgets.

k.thx.bai.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on Mar 1, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Gameday Audio

I’m pretty ignorant about this. Do blackout restrictions apply to Gameday Audio?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No blackout restrictions on the audio

Only on the video. I suspect that we may see a change in the video blackout this year. I thought I heard that some teams have already green lighted MLB to allow mobile users with the app to view the home team for a price. Seems logical to assume that a mobile device is not in competition with the local TV rights holder and this is a way to generate more revenue. I am hopeful that this is the way that this is headed.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Mar 1, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

good.

maybe this will finally be the year i’m not blacked out of padres games in phoenix, arizona.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not blacked out of Royals games in St. Louis,

but my friend in KC is blacked out of Cardinals games.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in Boston and was blacked out of Cardinals games last year

before calling them and relaying my IP address to a rep over the phone so they could manually enter it into their database. Reminded me of the Seinfeld moviefone episode. “Why don’t you just tell me…where you want to watch the game from.”

by mattyp on Mar 1, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

that's ridiculous.

and entirely not surprising.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Makes sense I guess

there are a lot more Cardinals fans in KC than royals fans in StL.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Mar 1, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but it's still bullshit.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i assume that you cannot watch KC games on TV from STL

and vice-versa?

it makes sense if KC gets FSN Cardinals. I mean, it’s still BS, but it at least makes sense.

They do not broadcast padres games in Phx.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I got expanded basic at the end of last season.

Not sure if digital would make a difference in terms of what FSN has to offer.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

mlb's blackout policy is my favorite...

I enjoyed living in far southern Arkansas and not having the games aired on t.v. and being blacked out on the gameday video feed because I was in the home market. When I was in college in central Illinois I tried to watch a cards cub game online with gameday video (because the local fox affiliate thought I would rather watch the giants and dodgers) and was of course blocked out on both the cubs and the cards feed… when I called mlb about trying to get it unlocked for my ip address they informed they couldn’t / wouldn’t because I was in both markets even though they confirmed my local affiliate wasn’t showing the in market game.

by streamman on Mar 1, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

what kills me

is that mlb.tv has been around for a really long time. i mean, i remember getting it on my computer when it was streaming in like 56k. it was terrible. so, after all this time, they STILL can’t work something out with the networks?

i blame bud selig entirely.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info on audio.

I seem to remember some scuttlebutt about changing the blackout restrictions policy last offseason, but the owners then killed any reform. Disappointing but not surprising. I wonder how they can differentiate between a laptop and a smartphone. Presumably, you register at a set address for each and both are readily portable.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

They use IP addresses for laptops.

Unless you’re connecting to 3G or something. Otherwise, I’m sure they use cellular tower data to figure out where you are.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

Or the GPS tracker in your phone, if it’s enabled. And that’s my point. How can they lift the restrictions for smartphones only and not laptops? It’s not hard for them to know where you are with either device.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheers for proxy servers on laptops

What I don’t get is if you are “In market”, why don’t they just provide the FSN broadcast AND commercials and whatnot. They please the FSN people and then please customers with MLB.tv service? How hard could this be if they are already providing the feed?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That is an excellent point.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

pretty sure it doesn't work like that

if it did, Hulu would be raking in money. For some reason, advertisers aren’t yet willing to pay as much for online video ads.

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Hulu is making money.

Joker set me straight last time. And, they’re going to go towards a subscription-based model for access to older videos.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Hulu is raking in money

But even still that seems short sighted of FSN even if they are getting less money. Who are the people who are watching MLB.tv in market? People at work, people out…..people who can’t watch the regular broadcast anyway. No one is going to choose a laptop over the TV. This seems like a very easy “value creation” strategy.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It's just a part

of the overall antiquated ideas media outlets still bring to new media. Sure, there are plenty of ideas we can discuss like that which make perfect sense and would totally work, but that’s not the viewpoint these companies are coming from. It’s why they’re doing so poorly.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 1, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

they'd have to reach an agreement with advertisers to get paid for online views

and none of the media outlets want to set a precedent of accepting less for viewing the same ad on a computer screen than on a television.

Basically, what baron said above.

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha yeah

“We can give you more viewers without cannibalizing your current market at all”
“Well we could reach an agreement with advertisers to make more money, but we don’t want to do that.”

Anyone know why advertisers won’t pay more for the same ad on TV as on a computer?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Not everyone has cable

or satellite, so having their content streaming on MLB could cut into their subscriber market. (It would be essentially a small step towards a la cart cable programming, which I doubt FSN would be against.)

That’s the only reasonable problem I’d see. It’s far easier to change the channel on the TV than on MLB.tv, and even if you switch tabs or something while the ads are on, you’re still hearing the audio, so streaming advertisments are better for them than ads on TV.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Except what is weird is that MLB

usually advertises itself during commercial breaks. Sometimes last season I’d see an Ace Hardware ad. But usually it was just MLB Shop ads. Or the ad that started “Hey ump!” I can still hear that ad in my nightmares.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Or the one with all the MLB players pushing MLB tv

or the stock market one with the babies (though I actually quite liked that).

I basically watched about 100 games last year on mlb tv, so I pretty much know them all word-for-word.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 6:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Also

another irritating thing about mlb tv –
because I watch a lot of the games after they’ve occurred (i.e. quite often the next day), this really irritated me. Basically, they don’t cut out ANY of the break between innings, and there’s no easy way to skip between them. Seriously, especially given there’s virtually no commercials, how hard would it be to just erase all the 2 minute sections where the screen is just blank, for people watching the game retrospectively?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 6:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually really surprised that google isn't in on this yet

It seems like a perfect analog to their adwords model. If a third party handled the price negotiations with the sites and the advertisers, it would let everyone take advantage of the existing market without locking themselves into any pricing scheme. Eventually, the bigger sites would still have their direct deals (the way that, for example, big blogs do now).

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

google doesn't believe in baseball

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

well it better change its tune

if it plans on taking over the world.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I imagine that they view a laptop as competition for TV viewers

Whereas the 3in screen on your smartphone is not really considered competition. I don’t have any insider knowledge that this is the case, I just think that is the direction it is trending.

"I learned a long time ago if you keep checking your stats all year, you're going to end up in the toilet." - Chris Carpenter, 2009.

by indakind on Mar 1, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yet

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Right.

I have GPS in mine, but I turn it off because it creeps me out.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you like carry it around in your pocket or what?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

right next to the lock picks

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

actually...

from the site:

Please note: MLB.com At Bat™ live game blackouts are determined using multiple reference points, including GPS.

by _pistol_ on Mar 1, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I was at a meeting for work a couple weeks ago...

and they showed us how accurate the GPS system in our phones and corresponding satellite/aerial photos are, they could tell if I was taking a dump at target or sitting at the drive thru at Taco Bell

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 1, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

dexter could have used one in that episode I watched tonight

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

which one was that?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

you shitting me?!

have you actually seen dexter? it was a pretty pivotal point in the season series

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

the one where layla uses his gps to go find dexter

and then sees dokes in the house in the everglades

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

wait

are you shitting me?

that is definitely not the worst that dexter has been burned by gps. and a gps blocker wouldn’t even have helped him then! that was his own navigation system!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

it was the episode I watched tonight

what more do you want from me

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

this!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a tard

sorry, the gps thing getting stolen was the first thing that popped into my head

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I know nothing of these blockers

if they want to know where I am, they can just ask politely.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

what?

I thought you had watched all of it!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

at least none of this stuff is in season 1

just drink a few extra franklins to erase this information

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

it took me a week to get through all the episodes

warning season three is perhaps the worst of the four.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

by far the worst

but the other three are awesome enough to make up for it. my favorite show, btw

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:39 AM EST up reply actions  

mad men is quite good also

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

have not seen it

i will look into it

looking for something for after i finish the wire

was thinking about going with the shield. have heard good things. what say veb?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm obsessed with the red head from Mad Men

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 2, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Never seen that show

But I think that actress was YoSaffBridge from Firefly.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 2, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Her name is Christina Hendricks,

and that was her on Firefly, too.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

Maybe “obsessed” isn’t the right word if I can never remember her name. She’s quite a looker though.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 2, 2010 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

not sure if you need to know

her name to be obsessed, but you’ll definitely need it if you want to be a stalker.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

The Shield is must see.

Don’t question it…just watch them all…..

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 2, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Mad Men is way better than Dexter.

Michael C Hall, I think that’s his name, carries Dexter through some pretty uninteresting plot lines sometimes. Mad Men is great through out.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Mar 2, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

not having seen dexter season3

I wouldn’t say mad men is way better, but yeah, that show is amazing

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

doh

that’s the next one I’m going to watch… I thought season 1 was probably better than 2, but season 2 was easier to watch straight through

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

it's really

not that bad. only when compared to the rest

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:42 AM EST up reply actions  

if you ever want to have fun...

install google maps on your phone and then check out the level of clarity and accuracy you can get with the aerial photo.

This past fall while I was out doing some preliminary environmental compliance work and optimizing the locations of each wind turbine for a wind farm in north central Missouri with a surveyor, we came to realize that the data he had been provided for the locations we were going to was in the wrong projection (showing up in the wrong spot on the map). The data I had on my maps was in the correct projection. Using my paper maps and google maps on my phone I was able to navigate us to within 5 feet of where we needed to be each time.

And all the while, if my boss really wanted to he could have been following our progress quite easily on google lattitude.

by streamman on Mar 2, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI......

MLB Audio is 14.95, Cardinals Nation is 19.95 and it includes MLB Audio and premium Game Day functionality, and 2 tickets to a game.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It's probably a result of finishing 4th in the division,

but I do not recall Lopez’s time with the Cardinals in 2008 at all. How did we use him then? What were the circumstances of his signings? Was it mostly MI work, filling in for Izturis and Kennedy?

Speaking of not remembering 2008, looking at the roster for the year, I also do not recall Josh Phelps or Mark Johnson. I assume Johnson was LaRue’s backup after Yadi was laid out.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Mar 1, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

released by the Nats

signed by us in August. Did very well, playing all over the place.

Phelps was awesome in Memphis that year, if I recall correctly.

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Fangraphs->Felipe Lopez->Show Partial Seasons

here. That will show you his offensive numbers (damn fine) as well as positional defensive numbers (middling) and # of games at each position.

by mattyp on Mar 1, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Aha. Thanks.

It’s all coming back to me now. (nooge)

I don’t know if it’s just a matter of playing for a better team, but his basic offensive numbers were on a downhill slide with the Nats and then climbed upward after signing with the Cards.

Damn. He hit .234 with the Nats and then .385 with the Cards. That’s a wider gap than what Lego did last year (.286 vs .353)

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Mar 1, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

dude was on fire

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess you missed the discussions here

but lopex got the nickname flop in dc for his lack of effort on the field (he was disgruntled there, iirc, by guzman replacing him at ss). coming to stl was a breath of fresh air for him, or an eye-opener, or some of both, and he performed very well, at least offensively.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Free Allen Craig

I don’t know if this has already been posted, but Craig worked out with the infielders Sunday, according to Leach:

Allen Craig worked out with the infielders today, which was a bit curious. TLR said, though, that Craig’s best opportunity to make this team remains as an outfielder. That’s truer than ever, of course, with the addition of Felipe Lopez.

“He’s throwing from the outfield, and he takes infield during infield practice, then he goes to the outfield for the popup drills that we’re going to do today,” La Russa said.

“I think there’s more opportunities for him in the outfield.”

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

That last line

is either encouraging or a cruel tease.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

He continued
"I think there’s more opportunities for him in the outfield. Aaron Luna, Daniel Descalso, Mark Hamilton and Ruben Gotay have basically got the infield covered in Memphis"

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 1, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I link-dumped it somewhere

but no one knew who he was, so…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

poor Julio

the guy really doesn’t have much to offer the team anymore, unless his offense is somehow unbelievable this year, which most likely won’t happen. but maybe the glare will intimidate the pitchers…. as tom mentioned the other day, I’d rather have tyler greene as backup shortstop, which seems to be the only place the Lugo fits right now.

as for FLopez, I will be mad if TLR doesn’t start him every game vs. LHP, Skip is really that bad at hitting lefties. heck, maybe Skip is the guy that Lopez should be displacing? he certainly has been the better hitter in recent times. also, Lopez Mutual takes the pressure off of the management in case Freese melts

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

I think Skip is somewhere in a corner, rocking back and forth.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I have a sad for Skip

after all that work to become a 2b, floppy is better in almost all respects – switch hitter, can play multiple positions, better base stealer…

unless, UNLESS freese doesn’t work out.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't feel sorry for Julio.

He’s getting $9MM (or, has he already received his check from Boston?) for the 2010 season.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I noticed that last night and did a double take

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Brendan Ryan's stalker has news!

I mean, dgoold.

Brendan Ryan makes 40 throws, takes 30 swings and some of the worry about his wrist melts away, he says. Still easing into rehab. #stlcards 8 minutes ago via web

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Ah

Now that is welcome news.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 1, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

this just in: Boog is the most interesting man in the world
In recent workouts, Ryan has been a self-described "nomad", roaming from drill to drill and doing as much as he could without using his right wrist. During groundball work, he would field the ball with his glove and then use the glove to throw the ball in, Jai-Alai style.

link

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He's no Skip...

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That's some nice PS work

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That's so last year.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

This may be true, but it doesn't turn a year old until July 19th.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Which would subsequently mark my first anniversary as resident Photoshop Bitch

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

This was your first PS work for the comment section?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yessir.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

it was when we tricked him into making something, and it was awesome.

now he’s on the bench. though now that Lopez is here…..

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Tricked?! I was a willing participant, foo.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

F...

OT: Do they still make corn nuts?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I saw some a few months back at Meijer...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 1, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I went to the gas station tonight....

….they didn’t have them. I settled for Gardettos. Plus-side…it was a bag filled with ONLY rye chips.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Is there a reason

they put anything but the rye chips in there? Would anyone be angry if they did away with the mix and went to the straight rye chips…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I blame that on the extra x chromosome...

The rye chips are the only story…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

In fairness I focus

on the one thing that is really good.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that's what all the marks say

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

if anyone is a fan of The Cat

most of the Top Videos are the Cardinals players finding out they have to talk to this guy all season long
http://foxsportsmidwest.com/pages/stlcardinals

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

No worries about Lopez in the outfield

Because Lopez can play 2b and the Cardinals move the outfielder-turned-2b into the outfield. It’s like a Twist-O-Plot book authored by TLR. Plus, when Ryan is deemed good-to-go, Lugo can be traded to a team-in-need for minor league parts. As The World’s Best Boss would say, this is a win-win-win.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Mar 1, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

go Mo!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

You spelled Lopex wrong.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, appropriate Office reference there...

I just don’t want to wear any baby shirts.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if we kept the right one of these three prospects: Motte, Perez, Todd

I guess this season we will be able to tell… well, it will probably be a storyline for the next 2 seasons I guess.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

todd i didn't care about once he was moved to the pen

that said, i was hoping he wasn’t the ptbnl just because i was hoping to pay less of a price than that. and, at the time, i was definitely hoping it was perez and not motte as the marquee guy – we’ll see how it goes.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd much rather trade a guy with a flat, straight fastball.

To me, Todd with his sinker and Perez with his movement were both more promising pitchers. That said, I’m really pulling for Motte.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Mar 1, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

p-d needs to edit their articles

I was reading the lede on Bubbles and there was this huge blank in the first paragraph.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

Felipe Lopez is next up on Bernie's

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

he doesn't sound real enthused.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

on Boras

“You know when someone does something to you, and you tell (warn?) them not to do it, and they keep doing it and keep doing it… you have to make a decision.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

apparently he was not informed of anything

“and especially in free agency, you want to be on top of everything.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

He just sounds really chill.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

he got a spike when Bernie mentioned playing with the likes of Pujols

get on the bandwagon, it’s leavin’ the station

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

though good answer

he’s not playing favorites in the Man Stew

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

In the audio from the Globe-Democrat,

he said “I knew where I wanted to be.” He wanted to be a Cardinal all along.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd get rid of the stav infection now

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

the downside of the Man Stew

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Something I just thought of

Does Mark DeRosa get a standing ovation in his first AB for the Giants in St. Louis this season?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 2:42 PM EST reply actions  

they don't stand unless it's for the Wave.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that's a bit overboard

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

we won't find out till August 20

if anyone is at that game, they might not remember his stunning good looks.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

on the other hand, the one and only Troy Glaus will return

April 26

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Santa's coming back!!!!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

so be good for goodness sake.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

the all-Jocketty team returns April 30

the ex-pitchers, I mean the Brewers don’t have a St. Louis game until June 4.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

did rolen play last year when cinci was in STL?

i can’t remember if he got a standing O or not…he should have, IMO.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

he was on the DL, and hid in the clubhouse

I saw one of the games.

there was also the not-reconciliation with Tony. he cleared the air, but did they make eye contact? photo evidence says no.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

so i guess the question is,

will he get one on April 30?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't see why not.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean, none of these guys are So Taguchi.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

allegedly

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 1, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe a slightly enthusiastic clap?

probably more for him leaving the cubs and their downfall than for him playing for the cardinals

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw a demo of god of war 2 at a friend's house friday night

it looked very over the top… this one character was freakin huge

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

whoops, heh

I don’t play video games, didn’t know haha. looked pretty damn cool though when I was drunk.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Junior believes in man stew

sounds like fun

i’m kind of glad the national media hasn’t wrung our man stew of its nuttiness. it’s one of my favorite parts of the game, but WWL has a way of turning everything into a postcard.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:13 PM EST reply actions  

junior's given name is george?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

they do

their gm deserves some kind of medal. to me, they are favorites in the al west

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Jack Z is a monster

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Daddy Warbucks

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not sure they are favorites

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

You're telling him what his opinion is?

They aren’t favorites to sports writers. But Chitown is picking them.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry

missed some punctuation there

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I’m just saying that to me they are…. great pitching, very solid defensively at least on the SS and 3B side…. I think Milton Bradley will kick ass this year too. just sayin, it’s my opinion that they will be hard to beat.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you.

If they don’t finish first, they’re probably second.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Angels missed their window

The A’s, not gonna do a whole lot probably… can’t even remember what the other team is heh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Rangers.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah

actually they will probably be pretty good too. but they never seem to be able to put it all together.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, with four teams

and one being the A’s, i like the mariners chances to finish in the top half

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

explain why the mariners can't win the division...

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

i think they'll finish first or second

so i think they can win the division, and i’m in fact rooting for that outcome. i just misread your initial post by a comma and a period. i believe the angels are the favorites, though.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I guess so

but no one really sticks out to me that much on that team, I always think of them as kind of overachieving

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Mariners sign Wes Littleton! they're goin all the way

(MiL)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

I’ve mostly read that the Strangers are the faves for the division. But, it’s not like they have a history of success.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like it will be a fun division to keep an eye on

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

for the first time in a loooong time

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I was just thinking about how usually I don’t give a rat’s ass about the AL, but all 3 divisions look like they could develop into good races down the stretch

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i could see a three-way battle

and the a’s offering (a healthy) sheets to the highest bidder of the three.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not convinced the Angels are very good

you could make a solid argument for them being the WEAKEST team in that division. They’ve out-performed their pythag quite a bit in the last few years, and they’re definitely worse in 2010. I think the Mariners and Rangers will be the teams to beat, but all four have some sort of chance. A’s might suck on offense (which’ll probably derail them) but they’re probably the best team in the division at run-prevention.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 6:49 AM EST up reply actions  

is that last line because of the a's pitching?

because i thought the mariners were considered a defensive juggernaut.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Arguably the best bullpen in baseball

and a pretty solid starting rotation with LOTS of depth (i.e. they’re more resistant to injury than most). So, yeah. You’ve also got to say that their defense is pretty awesome, probably as good as Seattle’s. Their entire outfield is basically made up of centrefielders.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i guess i'm still thinking of them

as full of lumbering dh types, whereas there’s been a makeover – even have rickey in camp teaching basestealing, not exactly a tenet of recent-past A’s teams.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The A's might surprise you

They’re got a lot of good young pitching (Brett Anderson is a STUD), Ben Sheets seems to be healthy, and their lineup ain’t half bad.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 1, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

En multaj lokoj de Ĉinio estis temploj de drako-reĝo.

 Dum trosekeco oni preĝis en la temploj, ke la drako-reĝo donu pluvon al la homa mondo. Tiam drako estis simbolo de la supernatura estaĵo. Kaj pli poste, ĝi fariĝis prapatro de la plej altaj regantoj kaj simbolis la absolutan aŭtoritaton de feŭda imperiestro. La imperiestro pretendis, ke li estas filo de la drako. Ĉiuj liaj vivbezonaĵoj portis la nomon drako kaj estis ornamitaj per diversaj drakofiguroj. Nun ĉie en Ĉinio videblas drako-ornamentaĵoj, kaj cirkulas legendoj pri drakoj.

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Mar 1, 2010 3:41 PM EST reply actions  

are you getting Esperantmoo on us?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yes,

I enjoy imported beef as well

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Enlish MF'er

Do you speak it?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

it's something about a dragon

dude, the harry potter thread was yesterday

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm watching Harry Potter right now!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 1, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

google translate:
We are not yet able to translate from Esperanto into English.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

(actually it's in wikipedia. I do actually know what it says.)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

kill the pear!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

It'd be better if it were a MF'in avocado.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

absolutely!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That's fantastic.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

good work

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

the ceiling for recs is around 100.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

personally

i’d like to see a hole in that avocado. (i hear avocado brains look a lot like guacamole.)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

it's one of those things

where you just nod and move along

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

NLDS.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

First rule of Hass Avocados?

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 1, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

F*ck 'em.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

nice

might be nice to have a little hass logo on the side, but good work

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesn't need one.

Non-hass avocados look different.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it was determined

that hass is a type of avocado, not a brand

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

all I know is that I really like guacamole

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

¡Diga <> otra vez!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoa

Apparently stuff does format in the subject line

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

22+ recs?!

Wow….thanks guys!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

23, bish

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

sellout.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Jealous, much?

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't stoop to shit-talking Cody.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

You're right. Redacted.

I apologize to the community.

(he started it)

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions  

you started it along time ago vexed.

so long ago, there is no records of it.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

im sure Y2 could come up with something

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
/Downs Franklins

by BVHeck on Mar 2, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

quiet, they're about to pay me off

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 2, 2010 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

you know what spants, I could respond to this in a flippant manner

but I fear for my life, so I ’m just going to compliment your sig.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

recs are fascist .

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't see what you posted....

F’n work firewall.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

it's the say wut pear and Sam L.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

To which he says "Say 'wut' again"

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I must say

it is pretty funny. Jules is pointing a gun at that pear that says wut all the time

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

we've gone round the twist now

we’re live-blogging the blog.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

nice

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

and 2012 is just around the corner

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

try this

http://web.mit.edu/bking/Public/wutpear1.jpg

unless your firewall doesn’t let any images through which would frankly be amazing.

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

no....it's just hosting sites

photobucket, imgur, etc.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

also,

that worked. Thanks.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

i think it's rumanian. something about a dragon king.

the figure in cinema symbolizes the absolute authority of the feudal empire.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 1, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: propehtjohn.....

can you repost you’re links to the BR and VEB search ad on for FF?
Thanks.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 4:12 PM EST reply actions  

I had the fg one, but I thought you

coded the BR and a VEB one.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 4:48 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, the VEB one!

i misread

i’m not at home now, but i’ll upload it when i get home

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a VEB one? that's the only one I'm missing.

maybe one for minorleaguesplits as well would be cool.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i dunno

if i can do minor league splits

i’ll look at it when i get home and see if i can figure out how there search function works

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

that would be awesome if you can get it to work.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

it would also be cool

if i knew basic grammar apparently

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

here's veb

go to start > computer > c:\ > programs files (x86) > mozilla firefox > searchplugins > then just drop the file in there and restart firefox

not sure about minorleaguesplits. they use some kind of script, so i need to figure out what that actual url is when it’s searching a name before it gets translated to pl=##### or whatever

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

thanks

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

okay

looks like the best i can figure out at this moment would be a last name only player search for minorleaguesplits.com

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

ha!

i think it got it. let me code it and see if it works

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i don't know how to do this

it’s weird because they have a separate box for first and last names. no way that i know of to separate the first and last name to get it to work

as far as i can tell, with their search algorithm, the best that can be done is last name only search

want?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I guess that'll do.

thanks again.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's better:

Works great for Firefox.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

it doesn't work for my firefox apparently.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

works for me...

right click, then select add too search bar.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

that's cool

looks like you can still only do one search term for minorleaguesplits, though

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I made one several years ago for minor league splits if you want it.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nevermind

It’s broke.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 1, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

oh =(

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

mainly i’d just like to see the code to see how it works

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Here's the broken code

http://liam-moran.com/tools/minorleaguesplits.html

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Mar 2, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

hey PJ do you know if this <a href=“http://labnol.blogspot.com/2006/09/learn-to-create-firefox-search-plugin.html >”hack"" works?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

*hey PJ do you know if this hack works?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

no idea

give it a shot!

i do know that there was a lot more code to it than that for the ones i did

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

that's just a shortcut to a google search

it seems likely to work pretty well with quotes:
“David Freese”

but might get you more results than you’d like without them:
David Freese

by brackenthebox on Mar 1, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah I found if you use "'m feeling lucky" it might work, but I don't know how to set it up.

Joe mather example
http://google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&btnI=1&q=“joe mather” site:www.minorleaguesplits.com+%s

for some reason the whole link won’t work for me though, but you copy and paste url it will work.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ozzie is on the air! 101

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

almost shit myself

when i got a mlbtr tweet sans context saying that “gaby hernandez” has been released

not knowing about this guy, i was pretty angry to find out that the cards had inexplicably released my low minors pet prospect

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

Is his first name really Grabiel

or is that a BR typo?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 4:39 PM EST up reply actions  

That's correct

GRABIEL!

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 1, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

is that spanish for mike?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

So his nickname must be

Grabby?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

it's really grabiel

but it’s pronounced like gabriel

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions  

first rule of prospect appreciation: don't fall in love with someone based on performance in the DSL or VSL.

"We were men - flesh and blood - and we played baseball in the sunshine. We hit doubles off the wall, slid hard into second base. We had fights, and we made love. We sang songs and prayed on Sundays. . . . We felt pain. And we felt joy. There was a lot wrong with the world. But we weren't sad, man. We had the times of our lives." Buck O'Neil, from "The Soul of Baseball: A Road Trip Through Buck O'Neil's America."

by tom s. on Mar 1, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

a girl can dream, no?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

today i'm discovering

that there are more women on this site than i thought

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was

tinstaapp?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 2, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

second rule of prospect appreciation

never release a 17yo SS with a .392 OBP.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Mar 2, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

who switch hits and steals bases.

he’s like the second switch hitter in our system.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I know I missed the Smoltz discussion, but here are some interesting numbers.

ERA Last Year: 6.35

Underlying Performance Estimators
FIP: 3.87
xFIP: 3.84
SIERA: 3.48

ERA Projections* for 2010
Chone: 4.58
Marcel: 4.46
PECOTA: 5.05

*Chone and Pecota have him as a starter (at least primarily in Pecota’s case), and Marcel does not specify.

Personally I think if he’s healthy he puts up something close to his underlying FIP/xFIP/SIERA. The question, for me, is not concerning his performance, but rather how many innings he can put up and whether or not they will be enough to justify his contract.

"And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is ALBERT when I lay my vengeance upon thee." -The Bible

by Cardinals645 on Mar 1, 2010 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

tRA

bos – 5.28
stl – 2.26

in’resting

and whoa anyone notice that fangraphs replaced tRA with tERA?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

StL seems to give a good kick in the ass to players

Lopez (in ’08), Lugo, Holliday, Smoltz…. hmmm

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I suddenly feel like some pie.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

They're just scaling it to ERA now instead of RA

Because more people are familiar with ERA generally speaking than RA.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 1, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

huh

5 recs, and no color change, wtf?

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 1, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

6 required to go green. And I did it!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

This needs to die.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

NEVER!

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

you can't be serious!!

/john mcenroe

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

you can't be 6!!

/john mcenroe on veb

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm disappointed that none of you remember

it’s “cannot”

what were you, babies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

In 1981?

I was just a gleam in my dad’s eye

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that explains it

watch some classics, it’s good for you

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't even think I was that.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 1, 2010 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I was, uhhh....-6.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I was a year out of college.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 2, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

there

I made it double green

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i think the nickname needs to die, though

considering he was “flop” in dc, and it wasn’t a compliment

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

it can be a 2008 Felipe ode.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

We could call him

Ocho, as long as he’s wearing #8.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 2, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

kinda funny

since after ocho would bat cinco…or not.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 1:49 AM EST up reply actions  

probably

and the siete and then cuarenta y siete and then veintiocho

but who then?!

cuatro?

whatever freese’ number is?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

despues ventiocho , cuatro.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

i dunno

if freese is like a .270 20 HR kinda guy, i could see him being 7th aheaad of yadi

20 HR pop from 3-7 would be pretty cool

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I've always hated that nickname

I like Flopez or Lopex

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Mutual.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that too

or maybe the Policy

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Flip Lopez

even though that’s what strauss calls him. but it makes me think of turning double plays.

i sort of came up with an alternative one using Flip and discussing how we don’t need skip anymore. but it was sad. this signing should be a happy occasion!

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

...I think I'm gonna go drive down to Parkview Field and shoot some pics.

…later y’all!

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by vexedtechie on Mar 1, 2010 4:49 PM EST reply actions  

it's all fun and games till someone gets drilled

Leach’s blog
fake blockquote

One of the more entertaining sessions of camp so far came on Field 6 this morning.

Kyle Lohse was throwing live batting practice to the heart of the order: Pujols, Matt Holliday, Ryan Ludwick and Colby Rasmus.

Early in the session, Pujols hit a chopper up the middle that likely would have gone for a soft single, and said quite audibly, “That’s how you hit .300.”

Lohse shot back a comparison of Pujols to Ichiro, which drew a threw laughs — but perhaps wasn’t forgotten. The next time Pujols came up, he drilled a home run to left field, though he didn’t say a thing this time.

In line after Pujols was Holliday, who took a strike early in his ‘at-bat.’ Lohse playfully asked, “How do you take that?” Holliday didn’t say a word, but answered with his bat — he scorched the next pitch up the middle, a very hard-hit line drive that quite surely was a base hit.

Holliday still said nothing, but now Adam Wainwright piped in: “It’s a new year, Kyle. Last year that would have hit you!”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Just curious...

Why don’t you use actual blockquotes?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I do

but a longer chunk of text with black on dark gray — harder to read. loses the whole “highlighting a quote” function. the blockquote is there for citations, which I generally do. also the real blockquote and the fake blockquote are equally searchable on SBN.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I see. Thanks.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Also,

Wainwright is hilarious.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

that cracked me up too

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

poor Bubbles.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

over my head

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

dang yo.

meme q&a as a stopgap…

oh look, it’s actually in today’s p-d

Looking to change his luck, Lohse once walked into the clubhouse with bubblewrap covering his various bruises and ailments.

there’s also audio on one of the radio shows. hence: Bubbles.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

ah

poor Lohse, I hope he can be like ’08. maybe the even years like him more than the odd

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

really?

everyone done?

i was just joking about the bullet points, jeez

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 6:46 PM EST reply actions  

heh

I had to ride the CTA, now I am home. gotta do dishes though

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

f'in dishes

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Did mine last night......

What does it say when there is one plate and the rest were beer glasses?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

it means

you are doinitrite

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

it says awesome

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

well, the gee-d does have Skip

lookin’ hot. as usual.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Skip is the number one reason the Man Stew can't be discounted

He did so much work with the coaches, the other infielders, and the pitchers.

After booting routine grounders in spring training and making some believe the switch would never be successful, Schumaker started to feel comfortable at second base around the All-Star break. He went from a well-below average defender to a dependable commodity.

The difference? He started having fun.

"I’d watch Brendan Ryan just have a blast out there and I was so serious and thinking about everything that could happen instead of just relaxing and playing the game and having fun with it," Schumaker said. "I think once you start having fun and not thinking, that’s when everything is starting to work.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

if Skip becomes a great defensive player

I will be so proud of him

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

did you jump in the man stew and help him out?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Rangers looking for Infield help

Mentioned on MLBTR, and Julio Lugo was listed as one of the options. Anyone have a decent understanding of their system to see what we can get?

I think Neftali Feliz is a good starting point…. :)

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 1, 2010 7:16 PM EST reply actions  

fire up the van!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i wouldn't let him go

for anything short of feliz and andrus

also, pretty sure we posted the same thing at the same time

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha!

I beat you by 1 minute.

Mwahahaha

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 1, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

the glare has special powers

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

when are we getting an mlb.tv spring schedule?

my god

what am i gonna be able to watch? it’s three days away. figure it out

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions  

oh

i guess these are the games that are gonna be televised

http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/schedule/index.jsp?c_id=stl&m=3&y=2010

so at least 9 games

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I hear mlb network is going to have almost 80 games this spring

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions  

My apologies if this was discussed somewhere above....

but MLB Traderumors is reporting that the Rangers are looking for infield depth and that Julio Lugo makes some sense.

Any one familiar with the Rangers’ relief corps/minor league arms? I am wondering here if they have an “intriguing” arm to match up with us on a trade. This seems to make some sense…..

by stanchar on Mar 1, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

his name

is neftali feliz

someone photoshop tits on feliz, plz

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:10 PM EST up reply actions  

neftali!

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions  

is Lugo a Ranger yet?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

go go power mo?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

my Viva El League team is going to be dated pretty fast if this happens

but The Glare will live forever

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

more middle infield

who’s in the back?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

kozma

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions  

ahh

I’m getting TLRish with all the Young Hitters

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

just call him

young infielder and call it a day

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

good call

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

caption contest

http://stltoday.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=28206630&event=952134&CategoryID=38580&picnum=37&move=F#Image

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:23 PM EST reply actions  

"Who da man?"

“You da man, Jose”

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

he's also a secret weapon

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

"yo beard is weird, SW. yo stache is trash"

“yeah, why don’t you suck on this, brendan?”

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice to see AJ

got rid of the aluminum bat.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

...

here

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe it's painted?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

nope

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It's okay.

He’s still very young. Besides, his swing will be nearly flawless.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Why's AJ drillin' his dad in the junk?!

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

inheritance

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Definitely looks like it could be aluminum.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

did he perhaps

eliminate it?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan: Seriously top it, Jose, you're scaring me.

Oquendo: I’m telling you Brendan, once you stop playing you’re gonna get fat, like me. It even happens to scrappy infielders, there’s no escaping it.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

top = stop

FML

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, run your own caption contest, buddy

and in answer to yours.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not your buddy pal

/obligatory

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

... and then there was this one girl in LA, Brendan.

She was fiiiiiiine.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 1, 2010 9:08 PM EST up reply actions  

the more I look at it

the more it fits

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

ooh photo day

http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/950255.html

AAAAHHHH they’re scary.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

what the hell is tyler greene doing?

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Mar 1, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish the photog would give better directions

this is mostly his fault

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

so like colby.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

very awkward

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

he just looks sad

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

he's got diaper duty in five minutes

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

his bill is too flat

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

someone needs to tell Colby this isn't the 18-freakin-hundreds

you can smile in pictures nowadays

dangolphotgrahpersaiditwasadingodangoldaguerreotype

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 1, 2010 9:09 PM EST up reply actions  

hey matty

I noticed last night that we joined VEB on the same day, march 23rd 2008

high five

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that is when SB Nation did the transfer

I am pretty sure I suffered through part of 07, I think you did too, but….HIGH FIVE

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 1, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I think I started in march '08

I remember briefly the old format, they changed it right after I joined pretty much

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

6/23/07 for matty.....

look at his blog membership. I think the new format rollout was 3/15/8….the day I joined. We talked about this during the season last year when discussing UID’s, but I can’t find it.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Mar 1, 2010 9:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I sorta went awol last season

missed a bunch of stuff

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:37 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not even that. It's the lighting.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

hoping like hell he makes the team

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

but yeah

that pic is a freakin intense… maybe he is trying to impersonate the Glare. the first 3 pics look like Luddy, Boog, and Skip are trying to look cute or something

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

scary, no?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Should I rec something that's sure to devour my soul?

Hmm.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 2, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

has he been hanging out with maryanne from true blood?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we

read into which players have photos here?

by WyoCardsFan on Mar 1, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i think they do it in batches?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

better yet

can we read into which side floppy took his pic from?

swinging from the right side…interesting….wait. this can only mean one thing! right…like right wing. like conservative! no! mo is not going to spend anymore money and this is his way of telling the fans no smoltz. =(

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

he is

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

that's why he's always laughing

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Boog isn't cut out for "steely glare".

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 1, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

what is that facial expression

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he looks bloated

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i mean constipated

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

he definitely doesn't look very happy

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

flu-like symptoms.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:49 PM EST up reply actions  

this was taken after he found out that Creed is one of the lamest bands in the world

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

so it's a sadface

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess money doesn't buy happiness?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions  

best of creed, on the other hand...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I was trying to think of any of their songs to make a joke

but all I can think of is a bad eddie vedder impersonation

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:54 PM EST up reply actions  

can you take me higher

i don’t know the name, but i know the song

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Scott Stapp

sounds like a gravelly, male version of Cher.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

so..... drag queen?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

for some reason this always cracks me up

http://www.billboard.com/news/311-brawls-with-scott-stapp-in-baltimore-1001612951.story#/news/311-brawls-with-scott-stapp-in-baltimore-1001612951.story

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

sunuva

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/8901746/scott_stapp_and_311_brawl

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

When I think of Creed

I think of this

You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the goddamn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all.
-- Earl Weaver

by Smokin Turkeys on Mar 1, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think of Scott Stapp singing God Bless America during the 04 World Series

And not finishing off the word “foam”. “To the OCEANS WHITE WITH FOOOOOOOOO”

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Mar 1, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

just came back from a spurs-hornets game

they put the words to national anthem on the scoreboard, but words like “watched” were spelled “watch’d” – is that normal, or do they think these are contractions in new orleans?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 1, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that is how the song's lyrics were originally spelled

back in the 1800s when it was first written. i think.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

O'er is generally used instead of over,

but that’s the only oddish contraction used that I know of.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 2, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I haven't laughed that hard in like a month

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

that is some funny shit

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

me and my roommates sing every song we think of randomly throughout the day

in an Eddie Vedder/Scott Stapp voice

Creed songs in Eddie Vedder voice are a favorite

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
/Downs Franklins

by BVHeck on Mar 2, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the reason Creed got such a terrible rap was because of Stapp...

….Mark Tremonti, Scott Phillips, and Brian Marshall, however, played some DAMN solid music. Specifically, I loved the way Tremonti played guitar. And it’s for the music, that I can safely say I, too, was a Creed fan. Then again, the reason I’m a fan of certain bands over others is because of the music, not the vocals or lyrical content.

Also, Alter Bridge was a pretty good side project that Tremonti and Creed-sans-Stapp put together.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I heartily endorse this statement.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 2, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

they just suck all around

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions  

although

at least they can play instruments and don’t do vocal loops over a 4/4 beat over and over, as much of pop music seems to me lately

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Are you referring to the CD that had "With Arms Wide Open"

and “Higher”? Human Clay was commercial and just miserable. They failed to follow up anything with Weathered.

My Own Prison was far and away their best CD, and their first… It was downhill from there. But I still enjoy the earlier songs.

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

LEGO SMASH

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Luddy with the "Oh no you didn't!" look

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, the posture makes no sense

bad photographer directions

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Lopez looks like he wants to be a jedi.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 1, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe this is his year

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Best bunt ever.

Just cut the ball in half. Yadi would probably be the only catcher to make that play.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 1, 2010 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard his mitochlorion count was running a little high this year

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you can never have too much biology

ifyouknowwhatIamsayin’

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Mar 1, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

skip looks hot

matt holliday’s head has never looked more square.

ludwick reminds me of when i try to take a picture of my cat and she sticks her face in my camera.

colby LITERALLY looks like he’s wasting away.

felipe looks kind of sexy..yes?

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

A Cardinals jersey would make the Elephant man look sexy

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Jack Wilson came up in our system...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Take it back, JD! Take it back!

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes he does look like kind of sexy.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 1, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

he looks a little like ryan spilporghs

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

flagged.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

okay, fine.

i see the resemblance. but the difference is that skip is hot and spilborghs really is not.

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean there is a resemblance.

But Skip has a better jawline and hotter eyes. And is just hot.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 1, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions  

How can you possibly claim to know the location of Spilborghs' jawline from that picture?

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Mar 2, 2010 2:10 AM EST up reply actions  

gps

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

full circle!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 2, 2010 8:11 AM EST up reply actions  

That's why Skip's is better.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 2, 2010 7:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I was referring to Felipe and no Skip does not look like that man.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 1, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Skip → Ryan Spilbourgh → Jason Lee

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

haha yes on spilborghs = jason lee

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 1, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

therefore

Skip→ Jason Lee?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Not exactly.

I was just riffing.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Spilborghs kinda looks like Jason Lee there

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 2, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

No shit?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

ahahahahaha

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Mar 2, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Look, it's Bluto from Popeye!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 2, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

But Jason Lee is probably closer

In fact, it’s a little creepy

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 2, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

how many innings does he need at SS to qualify for the all hot team?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Mar 1, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah he didn't do us any favors with that pic did he

I guess he’ll have to make up for it by jacking 30 dongs, getting on base at a .375 clip, and playing Willie Mays-style defense

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Now I'm curious as to who would be considered the 2nd best CF in AL history

After briefly scouring this incomplete list, no name jumps out at me. Of course, I don’t know 60-70% of those players. And Colby’s not even mentioned!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Then who do you think is the best in Alabama history?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure I would call him a CF'er

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

If the question is about Alabama sports,

the answer is Bo Jackson.

Or maybe the south really has dangole changed.

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

But the question was about Alabama CF’ers. I went to Bo Jackson’s f’ing school! I talked in his direction one time! Don’t lecture me about Bo Jackson! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:38 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

when is first spring training game?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:40 PM EST reply actions  

Thursday

liam went and made a nice schedule with gameday links here.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

does one need to purchase mlb.tv for march to watch them?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm sure

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

but the opener is on mlb network

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

dammit

I need to get cable.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

that is absolutely not where i meant to type that

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrong forum entirely, eh?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

supposed to be the chat window

for my “team” at work

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

HI TEAM IN THE TRUCK

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

this is the first quote of Boog's that sounds like him

The rest of them sound like lawyer-Mo talk. Even the hamburger anatomy quote.

After the work, Ryan was all smiles.

“I didn’t know what was going to happen,” he said. “I didn’t know. It was good.”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 PM EST reply actions  

link

mothership

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

so I am getting caught up on watching Dexter

almost done with season 2… hey spants, which character was it that you said was the most annoying character in tv history? I can’t figure out if it’s Rita’s mom or that english freak

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

btw I have 2 episodes left to watch....

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think I said that.

But the English freak is the one.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 9:10 PM EST up reply actions  

oh

musta been someone else, there were several of us talking about dexter. I dunno, rita’s mom is pretty damn annoying though

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

That she is.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I said it

yeah, it’s Lyla.

“Oh, paaaaardon my tits”

Fuck off.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 7:11 AM EST up reply actions  

u mad cos she hot

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

she's all conniving and shit though

she freakin framed Angel! I’m pissed

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

she's a bitch

she needs angry sex

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

what's really creeping me out about season 2 though

is dexter’s sister sleeping with the fbi agent. blech

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Or the fact that Dexter and his sister are married in real life?

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 1, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

weird!

didn’t know that, huh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I wasn't the one who said it!

It was a guy who said it, btw.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

this guy

boo-yah!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 7:12 AM EST up reply actions  

ok. I can't remember season 2 BUT

if he’s dating Rita (I think that’s her name, the woman with 2 kids) for god’s sake catch the last 2 episodes of Desperate Housewives.

Sometimes I’m just being nice about watching TV wtih my wife, sometimes it’s about the hotties and the odd lesbian joke.

by sdrone on Mar 1, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Rita is quite hot

which is very odd for me to say, since that’s my mom’s name.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I haven't seen any episodes of Dexter

tho my wife has watched the first 2 seasons on Netflix online, but yeah, Julie Benz (Rita) is very hot. I remember her as Darla from “Buffy” and “Angel”.

"I actually used about nine pitches--two different fastballs, two sliders, a curve, a changeup, knockdown, brushback, and hit-batsman" - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Mar 2, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

still haven't watched that show yet

I am not going to either, just to annoy people who watch it. no offense, flim, heh

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

huh

this is weird http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100222&content_id=8113864

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. I had no idea.

It will be interesting to see what happens, though.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

it’s weird that he might go into the military after his mlb career is over…

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

unless he wins a gold medal, wth

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Right!

Because whether they win is all up to Choo.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Only Choo can go all the way.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 1, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The Korean military Choo Choo Chooses him

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

luckily he is not from North Korea

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I bit my wookie!

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

What's a diorama?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Ralph Wiggum is on Twitter now:

http://twitter.com/ralphwiggum

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He hasn't updated much since 2007.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I did not know Twitter was around in 2007

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

haha

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what it says about me that

I was a relatively early adopter.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I signed up for it really early

then didn’t use it until recently. I did the same thing with myspace back in the day

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

My cat's breath smells like cat food.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 1, 2010 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hi Super Nintendo Chalmers!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What is your fascination with my forbidden closet of mystery?

by Mister Eff on Mar 1, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.

I hate myself!

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Mar 1, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

join the club

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I know CGirl has brought it up before.

She’s pretty bummed about it.

My guess is that he tries to become a citizen.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 1, 2010 9:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't get it

do all south korean males have to go through military service?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

on a related tangent

Korean bbq is some of my favorite food ever

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

michael jordan doesn't like it

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

too bad for him

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

too bad for charlie sheen

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
/Downs Franklins

by BVHeck on Mar 2, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions  

i have a friend

who is doing ESL in korea

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Manny Acta implied once that he was already going through the process of becoming a citizen.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Mar 1, 2010 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

wagner mateo is still unsigned?

i thought the twins or something signed him

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

nope

everyone is seeing problems with his vision…. even though he isn’t. heh.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Giants were rumored to sign him

but it didn’t go through for some reason. Any chance we sign him for less money or is that somewhat illegal after the contract dispute?

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Mar 1, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think it's illegal

the first contract was voided due to a failed physical. They can sign another one. But there may be some bad blood.

by Evilfrog on Mar 1, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

is there a knife fight?

with singing?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

not surprising… I wonder though, how he would stack up against skip at 2B or Freese at 3B. that, however, would be exceedingly difficult to quantify

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

p-d getting lazy on the pics

c’mon ,guys!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:30 PM EST reply actions  

hey, bj rains

i don’t care about the fact that you are watching wwe raw and really enjoying it. stop. now.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 1, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions  

So who's watching Jay Leno tonight?!?!?!!!!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Mar 1, 2010 11:04 PM EST reply actions  

bleh

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions  

ewh

Leno

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 1, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

After his prime time show was responsible for the cancellation of Life

I will never watch Leno again. Not that I did much before, but never again.

I crawled the earth, but now I'm higher, 2010 watch it go to fire!

by First mammal to wear pants on Mar 2, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

This comment is funnier

if you don’t know there’s a show called Life. Strangely, though, it still feels accurate.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 2, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know what happened here

but it sure sounds funny

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously.

If anything were to ever be found responsible for the cancellation of life, don’t you think Jay Leno would probably have at least a hand in it?

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 2, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I think he has his finger on the button as we speak

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

that's the only explanation

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree.

I think giving him back his show was simply the fulfillment of a 2,000 year old prophecy.

We all have ways of coping. I use sex and awesomeness.

by the red baron on Mar 2, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions  

his chin did it

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Can I rec this?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

well, you probably are capable of doing so, but I'm not sure what message you would be sending

’tis complicated when you appreciate the post but disagree with the sentiment. it requires a +1/2 or something like that

by peach concrete on Mar 2, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I recommended it because it was funny

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

to be safe I'll rec it, unrec it, then rec it again.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

well you could wait till midnight

or whenever the new post-dispatch goes online with a Carpenter article.

what’s that I hear… unicorns, perhaps….

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Mar 1, 2010 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

I heard carp added a knuckleball to his arsenal.

of course a unicorn didn’t whisper it into my ears so the validity is in question, that or I made it up.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 1, 2010 11:15 PM EST up reply actions  

despite my signature about frankie

I am more optimistic going into this season than any I can remember for at least 5 years

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:00 AM EST reply actions  

Mmmmm

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BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

heh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Mar 2, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's a small grouping of the photos I took earlier today...

Alternate Link

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 1:29 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

They have a nice stadium there.

Hammond’s Field in Springfield is nice, but Parkview looks even better. Looks to be in a nicer setting too.

Excellent pics, vexed. Thanks for sharing.

The Tincaps? Heh. They used to be the Wizards, right?

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 2, 2010 1:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Used to be; renamed last year with the new stadium

Ended up winning the MidWest League with a record of 94-46

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

nice

used to be a twins farm, right? is it still, or what affiliation?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Used to be Twins, yeah; now with the Padres.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I like,

but you should run a high pass over those. Your camera has some fringing going on, and the high pass will really make your focal points pop.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 1:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Thank you; I've got a Konica Minolta Dimage Z6...

…nothin’ special, but I’m definitely saving up for a decent camera. They say the camera doesn’t make the photographer, but it surely doesn’t hurt.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh it makes a big difference.

Especially if there’s glass involved.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Never been huge on the post-processing...

Usually just limited to levels and cropping (and stitching to get the panoramics)

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Eh

It’s almost necessary with digital.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're getting a better point-and-shoot,

I’d recommend a Canon with IS. Good little buggers.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm shootin' for a DSLR in a while

I never carry my camera unless I’m certain I want to take a lot of photos. Point and shoot isn’t really my cup’o’tea

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by vexedtechie on Mar 2, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a film SLR.

No dSLR. YET.

Incorrigible.

by spants on Mar 2, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I've got a nikon d40

If you go the DSLR route, I’d really recommend you get a low-end model and go for the best lens(es) you can afford, as opposed to vice-versa. Getting a really good multi-purpose lens is a good investment; I got an 18-50mm and a 50-300mm with mine, when I really should’ve just spent more to get an 18-300, and then added any specialised ones later.

I really want a fisheye lens but I don’t think I can justify spending £500 on basically a novelty toy…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Mar 2, 2010 7:24 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah my 400*400 resolution camera is awesome.

just look at this picture of albert I took

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I expanded and cropped it so it would look way cooler.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

you did a pretty god job

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions  

at least my work receives the appreciation it deserves.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Mar 2, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Coolness

I grew up in Parkview. Not the stadium though.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 2, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

not really politics

but the missouri senate voted unanimously to rename big mac hwy mark twain hwy?

and john smoltz has been approached to run for a senate seat being vacated…this summer?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

the main thing is he's dead

i believe it’s part of the resolution, to name stuff only after dead people in the future so you don’t end up having to rename it later if somebody screws up.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Wasn't it the Mark Twain Highway

before they renamed it the first time?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

that would seem odd

there are apparently so many strips of highway to name, and so many dead people – unless rumors of his death were exaggerated?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Mar 2, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Nice

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Mar 2, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

theres lots of highways the politicians could have named after Mark Twain

OTOH, there’s only one highway named after 70 dingers.

They could call it the pi = 4 highway, if they wanted, but to me it’ll always be I-70.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Mar 2, 2010 2:20 AM EST up reply actions  

wow

i never made the connection

i-70 because he hit 70 HRs

that’s clever

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

no, i'm genuinely an idiot

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Mar 2, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh I meant that at whoever came up with the idea.

I had to have someone point that out to me too.

(Insert Your Own Joke)

by AWolfAtTheDoor on Mar 2, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't move to Chicago...

we refuse to call them by the number. It gets very frustrating. I like how it’s done in LA… The 5, The 10, The 101. Much better than The Kennedy, The Ike, The Tri-State… stupid really stupid…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:23 AM EST up reply actions  

actually it's awful in LA

You have the Harbor freeway (which harbor? wtf direction does it even go? oh, both? sweet!), the santa ana freeway (I-5), the golden state freeway (I-5), the san diego freeway (I-5), the san diego freeway (I-405, confused yet?), the santa monica freeway (I-10), the San Bernardino freeway (I-10), the San Bernardino freeway (I-215), etc. Not to mention the pacific coast highway, which is about 17 different highways over 50 miles, etc.

and that’s just stream of consciousness, there’s probably a dozen more silly contradictions. There’s a reason why traffic gets backed up all the way to phoenix on thursday afternoons.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Mar 2, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

His point is that nobody actually calls them by name

We just say “The 10 East” or “The 101 North”

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 2, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep that's what I was going for.

The traffic reports here are given in Ike, Kennedy, etc form… I pity outsiders who hear one and try to figure out what’s going on. Granted traffic reports are stupid and should just be abolished anyways, but still.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Mar 2, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

but the exits say "santa ana freeway",

while the maps say “I-5” with the cool red, white and blue “insterstate x” sign. It’s shockingly hard to navigate if you don’t actually know where santa ana is, or san bernardino, etc.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Mar 2, 2010 2:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, but driving the highways in LA is another story

I literally never know what time I’m going to get somewhere

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Mar 2, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions  

It isn't even 70

it’s just a tiny stretch of 70 that goes through downtown. It’s all ceremonial anyway. No one in St Louis ever referred to “The Mark McGwire Highway” outside of the naming of it. No one will call it “The Mark Twain Highway” either.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Mar 2, 2010 2:32 AM EST up reply actions  

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