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This Year's Baseball Prospectus and the Cardinals

One more Spring Training tradition: Once a year I buy the new Baseball Prospectus Annual on Amazon, where it is perpetually 40% off, and spend the next three days trying my hardest not to buy it at Barnes and Noble. The further they are from the vanguard, and the easier it is to find advanced statistics on the internet—as of sometime in 2009 it has now officially become more difficult not to find advanced statistics on the internet—the more often I find serious blindspots in their Cardinals coverage; this year it's a strangely firm conviction that Skip Schumaker is unlikely to finish the season at second, which is held everywhere except their actual Schumaker comment.

But their combination of pith and stretched literary references is, if nothing else, a foundation on which the first wave of baseball blogs was built, and I can't stop reading it. So here it is, one more yearly compulsion: the most interesting Cardinals writing in Baseball Prospectus 2010.

Best Similar Players

5. Jason LaRue: Gary Bennett. Is this the Cardinals repeating themselves, or backup catchers all being the same mid-thirties gamer who can't hit? I can only hope that if PECOTA had run similar players for Bennett it would have been Einar Diaz, and Diaz Chris Widger, all the way down. 

4. Colby Rasmus: Carlos Gonzalez, Nick Markakis, Grady Sizemore, Orsino Hill. ClemsonGirl, think fast: Orsino Hillhot or not? Less superficially, Gonzalez and Markakis both made significant jumps in their age-23 season. 

3. Matt Holliday: Dave Winfield, Vladimir Guerrero, Moises Alou, Albert Belle; Ryan Ludwick: Juan Gonzalez, Dale Murphy. The Holliday comps are awesome; the Ryan Ludwick comps are also impressive, but once you turn 31 Juan Gone and Dale Murphy become more ominous than exciting. 

2. Rick Ankiel: Jim Edmonds; Mark DeRosa: Ken Boyer. These... really should have worked out better than they did.

1. Dennys Reyes: Ray King, Steve Kline, Scott Radinsky, Scott EyrePrediction: Scott Eyre will unretire some time in 2011 and join the Cardinals.

Star-divide

Interesting Statistics

31—this is how many runs BP's new play-by-play fielding metric thinks Brendan Ryan saved over the course of last season, which cannot possibly be right but encapsulates the way I subjectively think of his glovework. Of course, they also have Albert Pujols at 23, so maybe it's better for my psyche to just accept these numbers as correct instead of wondering when they'll work the bugs out of the system.

.247/.316/.387—this is officially the new least-pleasant projection for David Freese's 2010 season. 

4.58; 4.47; 4.48—these are Kyle Lohse's SIERAs from 2007, 2008, and 2009. Can you see the breakout season?

And, From the Chris Carpenter comment: 

How good was Carpenter's comeback? In the 55 years covered by Retrosheet, it's no surprise that Bob Gibson's 1968 is the all-time franchise high in Support-Neutral Winning Percentage at .732. SNWP is BP's metric for how likely a team is to win a game the man starts. Third in Cards history was John Tudor's '85 season, at .670. And nestled between them? Carpenter's '09, coming in at .673. 

Best Player Comment

Todd Wellemeyer—When spinning some bit of waiver-wire jetsam into gold, it's important to remember that it usually doesn't remain gold. Wellemeyer's rise and fall is sort of the Bottenfield experience redux, but that's the magic: taking something ordinary, making it seem extraordinary, and producing the ilusion that convinces batters they're up against a quality pitcher. Duncan's best tricks always go back to ordinariness—it's why they're called tricks [...] From here on out, expect the ordinary. 

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The book also features an interesting essay about Tony La Russa—"Creative thought doesn't always have to involve practical, meaningful results, but creativity applied to problems produces unusual solutions"—and a prospect list that features, as was often the case in the years when BP was at its most relevant, exactly one Cardinal. 

For me, though, the fun of Baseball Prospectus has never been the Cardinals pages; it's the other teams. When I'm watching two AL teams play it is still some comfort, even though I'm rarely ten steps from the internet, to have a phonebook at hand filled with single-sentence dismissals of most of their prospects. For me, the slow descent into curmudgeonliness will start with buying this book on paper, potentially even at a brick-and-mortar store, if Amazon ever stops undercutting them, until I die. 

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Insomnia stinks

But at least I am getting to read DanUp’s post. Yeah.
There is something different about having glossy pages in hand versus staring at the LCD.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Feb 25, 2010 6:56 AM EST reply actions  

I like Colby's similar players...

I drool over the prospect of him playing a la Grady Sizemore…

I am about to enter my Calculus III Partial Exam. Wish me luck!

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Feb 25, 2010 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

Good luck!

At least it’s not Calculus II!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 25, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

oh come on

until you’ve had to deal with complex differential equations and advanced function theory, you have no reason to complain

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Until you've had to empirically prove

that money DOES, in fact, buy happiness, then you’ve never done anything of substance in your life.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 25, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Logically speaking it does not buy happiness...

It eliminates a lot of problems though, without necessarily creating more. Thus, if you are unhappy by virtue of always being stressed about money, then money will help that. I would disagree on putting a number on it.

by ADMDrayson on Feb 25, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, you are right, to an extent.

There is a direct linear relationship between the amount of money one has and their overall life satisfaction, however that relationship ends at a certain point. There is little difference between the satisfaction levels of people with $1 million and people with $10 million, but there is a lot of difference between people with $10 and $1million.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 25, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

i wasn't talking about substance

just complexity
there was a saying that went sth like that: money can’t buy happiness, but it’s better to cry in a limo/in a mansion than in public transportation/under the bridge
i personally will be happier with moar money

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

And Integration,

and differentials, and infinite sequences and second order differentials, and rotational volumes… Calc 2 is responsible for my receding hairline. Calculus III has proven to be a walk at the park after that class..

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Feb 25, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Cal 3 was like Cal 1 in 3 dimensions for me

So it was pretty easy

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 25, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I actually did better

in Calc 2 than Calc 1. I never took Calc 3 thought.

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Feb 25, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

so how did the exam go?

i have done (was forced to do) so much complex math i can only laugh at calculus. most of it we did in high school. but i am a failure in history and geography so you can now laugh at me

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I answered

4 out of 5 correctly, I think. It was a good exam, studying was worth it. On the one I missed, I relied too much on mi TI-84…

I want the Walrus back...

by Paulspike on Feb 25, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

TI-89 Titanium FTW!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Feb 25, 2010 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm amazed you're even allowed to bring in a calculator

let alone anything beyond a simple one
they’re effectively teaching you nothing

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

yeah

i want to see you solve for x without a calculator

sin x = 0.74314482547739423501469704897426

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions  

can i use a scrap of paper

or just do it in my head?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i think you're missing the point

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

then in my head it is

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

rec

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Diff. Eq. was a breeze compared to Cal 2

Sequences and series killed me

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 25, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved every minute of my single- and multivariable Calc classes.

But Real Analysis? I have NO idea what was going on there – that was a mess.

by peach concrete on Feb 25, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

analysis 1 though 4 was very annoying for me too

cause it’s so abstract
numerical math and linear algebra were a breeze
when it got to algebra though (group theory) i about cried. i will shake the hand of anybody who can follow it

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite college math class

was non-Euclidean geometry. The theorems were wild.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my students got SO mad about non-Euclidean geometry this fall.

It was really fun to see him getting so upset about what a triangle would be on a sphere.

by peach concrete on Feb 25, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

partial diff eq was the only class I got a D in

and since it was in my major I had to retake it and got an A, yay for replacing D’s in your GPA with a retake :) I am still not sure if the D was due to my Polish proffessor or me just hating 3+ dimensional diff eq

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Feb 25, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I got to reverse algorithms

and switched my major

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I switched majors

But already did so much math up to the point. I just went on a got a minor in math. Most engineers that I went to school with also got minors in math.

by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 25, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I went from Engineering to Accounting

I was able to drink a lot more with the latter

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

And still does.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Prediction: Scott Eyre will unretire some time in 2011 and join the Cardinals.

I hope that’s a joke.

by mob16151 on Feb 25, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions  

Any idea which of the BP staff wrote the Cardinals stuff this year?

They have distinctive writing styles, particularly Christina Kahrl, but there’s been a lot of personnel turnover this year.

by StanTheManFan on Feb 25, 2010 9:25 AM EST reply actions  

The Milwaukee stuff sounded like Kahrl – snarky at its worst.

by ol Pete on Feb 25, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Low?

That’s 3 wins. UZR had him at 10.6 (or 1.06 wins) last season at SS and at 13.9 UZR 150 for his career at SS in 1300+ innings.

That’s a huge difference. Pujols’ numbers are an even bigger difference. Gosh, I hope they’re right, but I’m kinda like Dan — I’ll take the wait and see approach.

Literally, that defense would be Ozzie level good. I love Boog, but he doesn’t remind me of Ozzie when I watch him play.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait until he grows a full beard and starts doing cartwheels and backflips when taking the field...

But, in all seriousness, my eyes and heart will never believe such a thing as Brendan Ryan being as good defensively at shortstop as Ozzie Smith. If MLB were not anti-fan, I would now link to YouTube videos of Ozzie Smith making the magical plays that earned him his nickname.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Where are the numbers for Ozzie under BP's new stat? Perhaps Ozzie saved 45 runs in a year....

Maybe the stat is context dependent, I don’t know. Hopefully someone can explain how it’s calculated before saying it’s “high” or “low,” especially compared to some other stat like UZR.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 25, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

All of the historical defensive analysis that I've seen has Ozzie as head-and-shoulders above the pack.

I can’t remember what metrics I’ve read articles on, though. Maybe someone could provide some links.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that's my point...

Maybe BP’s new stat would also show that Ozzie was head and shoulders above the rest. I haven’t seen Ozzie’s numbers in comparison to Boog’s so I don’t know.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 25, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

thing is, though

if a good (but perhaps not historically amazing) shortstop is worth 31 runs above average, most of the stats used to evaluate players are way out of whack, and defense is WAY more valuable than even the current sabr analyses would suggest. I just don’t think that’s realistic, otherwise every team would be made up of 8 Boog equivalents and would be winning 90-some games a year.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, the Cardinals of the 80's did just that.

They put great gloves all over the field and won a LOT of games.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 25, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

but they also had pretty effective pitchers in most of those years (go back and look at FIP’s for Andujar and Tudor — impressive) and they were among the top 4 or 5 teams in offense in most of the years where they were good.

They didn’t win JUST with defense, although defense was a big part of it. The 60’s Cardinals were built in a similar fashion with Horner, Flood, and Gibby.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Context dependent?

If that’s the case, then they shouldn’t be using runs as a valuation, because runs aren’t context dependent. You either save a run or you don’t. You can’t value defense in a different context and then use the exact same valuation method as other defensive stats like UZR.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Since you know so much about "BP's new play-by-play fielding metric"

please let the rest of us know how it’s calculated. How did they come up with Boog saving 31 runs last year? Then those of us who know how UZR is calucated can compare the two. For example, is BP’s number an absolute (i.e, Boog literally saved 31 runs over what one would have expected the average ML-level fielding shortstop to have saved given the same game conditions last year) or is it something else entirely?

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 25, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow. YOU brought up context dependent, not me.

So you’re the one that should be doing the explaining, not me. I don’t know how it’s calculated, but if it’s calculated based on a certain context of fielding (such as range factor or fielding percentage), then they shouldn’t use runs as a valuation standard because runs are not dependent on the contextual nature of your measurement. They are independent of context.

If you have a context dependent metric and UZR is a context independent metric, then you can’t use the same valuation system because they aren’t measuring the same thing.

It would be comparing OBP (UZR) to Batting Average (BP), while using runs as your measurement standard. Obviously OBP will always relate to more runs because it has batting average as a component, so you can’t label them as giving you the exact same story, because they aren’t.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

you know I actually understand all this run vs run crap now

I am finally able to follow all this stuff and I agree with fourstick here, if you are going to say “runs” then it immediately becomes a near one to one comparison with other run based stats and could possibly be used as the defensive runs measure in RAR and WAR.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Feb 25, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't somebody

already prove that runs PREVENTED were more important for teams with good pitching and bad offense?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 25, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

i vaguely recall that discussion

i think it was at the extremes that this was slightly true

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah I remember that

there was some sort of analysis based on Pytha Win Percentage that runs prevented caused the win total to go up more for low scoring teams then adding the same number of runs scored where it was the opposite for high scoring teams.

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Feb 25, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

close, but a bit different

according to Pythag:

  • If you are a GOOD team (i.e. score more runs than you allow), saved runs are MORE valuable than scored runs.
  • If you are a BAD team (i.e. score fewer runs than you allow), saved runs are LESS valuable than scored runs.

This is a result of the fact that a fixed run differential has a bigger impact in low run environments. As such, for a fixed run differential, if you’re a good team you’d rather be in a lower run scoring environment (where your positive run differential is “worth more”). Conversely, if you’re a bad team, you want to be in a high run scoring environment where your negative run differential doesn’t matter as much.

by brackenthebox on Feb 25, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, but that's not really the point here

I run saved on defense is a run saved on defense. You can’t have a metric that calculates a run contextually dependent on certain variables and then compare it with a system like UZR which is contextually as independent as it can be and was designed to be that way.

If you’re going to do this, then you need a new name for the measuring statistic, because using runs will just be confusing.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

the question I had wasn't whether "runs" should be constant across

metrics, it was whether BP’s new stat did in fact define “runs” the same way as UZR or other stats.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 25, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

My problem

So we have Ozzie with a magical nickname absolutely built for marketing—Wizard—terific nick name.

What happens is Bredan sticks around for 15 years and plays all-star defense for his career—are we still going to call him Boog?

Side question. What would have Ozzie’s nickname had been if the interweb and VEB exisited in the 80’s?

by BigJawnMize on Feb 25, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

But he was only called "the wizard" b/c of his name

I do wonder if Boog will catch on or not. The general public doesn’t really have a nickname for him.

by Mister Eff on Feb 25, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

It would be "The Wizard."

He is tremendous person. His interviews remind me of DeRosa. The love he earned was for a reason. I confess that he was my hero growing up, but, contrary to so many professional athletes, I still look up to and respect him for his play and the way he carries himself off the field.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

if there were some better synonym for jester, I'd take it.

he’s a Puck-ish sort. maybe not quite Loki…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It's too early in the day

to post my suggestion.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

he needs a leash...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Because it reminds me of that obnoxious asshole from The Real World

instead of the obvious literary reference. Fucking MTV destroyed my brain

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 1:34 AM EST up reply actions  

He wasn't talking about Boog

he was answering the “what would Ozzie be called today” question

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Feb 25, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

dang those antecedents

i always lose track of them

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Bendin Brendan

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Feb 25, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Or

The Flying Mustache

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Feb 25, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Boog is far, far more desireable than his current clubhouse nickname

whomever is calling him Ryno in the clubhouse needs to just… omg stop, please. that nickname is taken.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe they're calling him Rhino....

….you know…’cause of his tough gray skin and enormous frame.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 25, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

the worst part is fsm is propagating it

that’s gonna have some legs since they’re the tv guys

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Let's just go punch Dan n' Al now.

Then this mayhem will cease.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 25, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still pissed that Al is back.

I had such high hopes for this year.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Al Hrabosky is a sonuva bitch.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 25, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Dan was on ESPN the other night

calling a basketball game…is he no longer with FSM?

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Feb 25, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He is

the hardest working man in Television.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

more like he has x number of kids at home under five years old...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

someone here went to h.s. with his wife, I think.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Ozzie couldn't go that far behind 3rd base

and still throw people out.

Ozzie was quick to the ball and quick to release with various awesome moves. Ryan makes up for not having that by just gunning people down.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

How old are you?

Because early in his career, Ozzie had one of the best arms and quickest releases from deep in the hole that I’ve ever seen. That was his wizardry — he could go equally well to both sides and had the cannon to throw guys out from behind third base.

If you only remember him from, say, the ’87 season on, I could see why you would make that assessment though.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Ozzie got famous for bouncing the ball

off the astroturf to speed it up on plays like that. I didn’t start watching Ozzie in ‘87. I didn’t say Ozzie did not have a good arm. I’m simply saying that it seems to me that Ryan’s arm is stronger, and that helps him on plays where he’s not as quick as Ozzie seemed to be.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

To me,

this is like criticizing a basketball player for using a bankshot instead of swishing every shot. The backboard is there, so why not use it? Same thing with Astroturf. If it’s there, giving sure true hops, why not use it? I imagine every infielder used the carpet to his advantage when he could. that said, from 1987 on assesses Ozzie’s defense in the second part of his career, the decline part. 1987 was his Age 32 season. This is like saying that Mickey Mantle couldn’t hit for that much power and basing it on having seen Mantle hit from 1964 on.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure where you get

that I’m criticizing ozzie for using the turf. I’m also not sure why you’re assuming Ozzie never used the turf before ’87.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought I saw somewhere

that he started using the turf after an arm injury.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep....

…Ozzie cud get to just about anything, and had a great arm – he developed the turf bounce and how to position himself as he got older/had injuries. But in his first few years there was almoost no cowpare.

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 25, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Or ...

Maybe Boog could do a Double McTwist with a Twist when he takes the field before every home game.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 25, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess I took this to mean that you were criticizing him:
Ozzie couldn’t go that far behind 3rd base
and still throw people out.

I took it as you saying that Ryan has a better arm than Ozzie had. You’re comparing Age 27 Brendan to Age 32 Ozzie, which isn’t really a fair comparison. I apologize for characterizing it as a criticism.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Padre days

Ozzie won his first two gold gloves playing in San Diego on natural grass. He adapted to use the astroturf later on in his career. The bounce throw allowed him to position himself even deeper.

by ubeddie on Feb 25, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

and he really didn’t start bouncing the ball until he hit age 30. That’s kinda my point. Prior to that, he threw frozen ropes from just about everywhere.

My point is that Ryan’s arm at his age isn’t stronger than Ozzie’s was at the same age. At that time, I think Ozzie had one of the best arms in game.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen both play

and I have to say, boog’s defense is pretty close to ozzie’s in my mind. maybe not quite as good, but I was amazed at more than a few of the plays he made last season. outstanding

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

ozzie was such a superior athlete

that it’s impossible for boog to come close to making some of the plays ozzie could make – literally impossible. oz probably invented SPARQ training, which just served to enhance his already god-given abilities.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Boog isn't as good as Ozzie because he's not as good as Boog.

All evidence points to a player who has the smarts and the instincts to play tremendous defense – remember that he had a hand in tutoring Skip… but whether he applies it to the field is a crapshoot. Boog’s family has essentially been training him to play since he could walk. But he’s still relying on his athleticism to pull off those amazing throws. That’s kind of like saying Carl Crawford is an amazing base stealer – what happens when he loses the speed? It’s a true statement, but it’s not based on an endless resource.

We have not seen Brendan Ryan put it together yet.

Now, what makes him amazing is that even like this, he’s got Gold Glove abilities. But as much as I like him, I’m not ready to breathe his name next to Ozzie Smith’s until, at the very least, his throws stop killing Albert.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

that too

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

heh

gold glove

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

granted, it'd be chewed off in a week

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know

start him every day and teach him how to bat, who knows how far he can go if he can keep his head in the game.

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I really don't see the comparison

Boog had a good year defensively last year. But it was just one year and he didn’t even win the gold glove. Ozzie in his prime won the gold glove and it wasn’t even a question. He not only was the best defensive shortstop, he was the best defensive player in baseball period. Ozzie very well could be the greatest defensive player of all time. Boog is nowhere close to being in that discussion.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

who gives a shit about the gold glove?

Boog had an amazing year last year, sure he hasn’t done it in other years, but if he continues how he played last season, imo he’s not that inferior to Ozzie on defense. so yeah, he’s no where close to being in that discussion because he hasn’t been playing as long, but I am VERY impressed by his defensive skills, haven’t seen many shortstops that are in boog’s league, even if he’s not quite as good as Ozzie yet.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing with Ozzie is that perhaps he gained a throwing advantage on turf,

but those grounders moved faster on turf than grass. Boog is awesome. It has been thrilling to see his defensive excellence. But he just isn’t Ozzie Smith.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 25, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

of course he's not

but I can’t think of many shortstops who are in his league

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

ah ah

Mo says Boog doesn’t have a league. he has a bucket.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I give up

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm, Omar Vizquel.

And Rey Ordonez in his prime.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 25, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Vizquel comes close...

…but Ordonez didn’t do it long enough. And Ozzie did it with flash and inspirational play (stuff u matrix folks hate to hear about) – and remember, this guy was a .230 hitter who made himself a moooch better hitter, not to mention a great batter’s eye and speed on the basepaths. And that homer off Niedenfuer, as I watched it and hoped and prayed for it, it actually happened!

Sorry, but the Oz is my fav all-time playah!

;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 25, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

he's comparing to boog, not ozzie

and another: adam everett

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I have this nightmare

that the wrist surgery is like the ninth inning in Rookie of the Year… that would be horrifying. (which I have not seen all the way through, I just consulted wiki)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

True the gold glove does not always go to the best defender.

Boog probably should have won it last year. Even with that in mind do you honestly think when boog retires he will be considered one of if not the greatest defensive player the game of baseball has EVAR seen. Ozzie is, Boog? The only comparison that can be made right now is that Boog is the best defensive player on the team but Colby is right there with him. Is he the best in baseball? Probably not. The only question left then is he the greatest Cards defensive shortstop after Ozzie?

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

as I said above

I don’t think Boog is as good as Ozzie. but name one player that is better defensively at this time.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Jack Wilson

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd say it's a wash

but yeah, he’s more proven than boog. sorry, I’m a big fan of brendan’s

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

as am I

I just want him to succeed at full boogaliciousness before we get all wizard-the-sequel on him.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know what the numbers say

but i’ve always been a fan of jason bartlett’s defense, and tulo

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

batlett is my second favorite SS besides boog

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

wasn't Utley something like +14

while O Dog was +8? I know I read that somewhere

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
/Downs Franklins

by BVHeck on Feb 26, 2010 3:24 AM EST up reply actions  

utley who?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 3:26 AM EST up reply actions  

SIERA & Lohse

FIP: 4.53, 3.89, 4.55
tRA: 5.99, 4.99, 5.12

So, can you spot the breakout now?

I think SIERA has some issues with how it evaluates walks (Tango’s thoughts here). Essentially, as isolated walks go up, SIERA goes down — that’s clearly an issue. When a pitcher reduces his walk rate by 0.5 per 9 innings and that leads to a lot of his success in a given year, SIERA is probably going to undervalue his performance. Considering that control is an actual skill, I would think this to be a very big problem for SIERA as an analytical tool. As Tango points out, it may be better coupled with other factors, but it’s probably going to undervalue the guy who has similar BABIP, HR rates, etc., but improves his walk rate considerably.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 9:35 AM EST reply actions  

Wait,

are you trying to tell us that signing Lohse to a 4-year, $41MM contract after his career year in 2008 was a bad idea?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying that really

Just that SIERA doesn’t show his peak year as well, because his peak year was created by dropping his walk rate, and SIERA doesn’t seem to measure walk rate correctly. The fewer walks you have, the worse your SIERA score is, because each walk becomes more important by SIERA’s calculations. Not saying it’s wrong, just saying it values walks differently than FIP, tRA, or Markov chains seem to value them.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

...
The fewer walks you have, the worse your SIERA score is,

I assume you mean relative to the average value of a walk. Walks certainly aren’t worth negative runs in the formula.

And the value of a walk only decreases when combined with ground ball rate (guys who allow a lot of ground balls won’t have as hurtful walks cuz of DPs). Lohse had a high-ish GB rate in 08, which would explain why SIERA is valuing him better.

by vivaelpujols on Feb 25, 2010 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

But it's not valuing him better...

It’s valuing his performance last year as exactly the same as his performance the year before. I don’t know about you, but he was clearly better in 2008 than he was in 2009, imo, so why would the metric grade him the same?

Yes, I’m talking about the average value of a walk. FIP does this wrong (it values them all the same), but that’s an inconsistency that we know about. The problem with SIERA is that it seems to value them inversely to tRA and Base Runs — which, to me, presents a problem.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 26, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this is the problem I have with SIERA

It has the potential to be very interesting because it supposedly accounts for correlating events; however, the formula has just no logic or reason behind it and it’s so hard to figure out exactly what it was doing.

With tRA and FIP we know of it’s flaws, and why they occur. With SIERA, this is not the case at all.

by vivaelpujols on Feb 26, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

We may be overpaying for Lohse

but the Brewers are paying Looper $12.5 million this year. Between the two, I think I’d rather have Lohse and his contract.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Dang.

Meant Suppan, not Looper.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

looper apparently turned down the nats

“to go in another direction” – where’s that?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Japan?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

he's a smart guy

“away from the Nats”

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

well, i think he was hoping for a dodger gig

but they say the 5 spot will be filled internally. so i guess he’s waiting on an injury, but he’s not the only unsigned pitcher either. i know smoltzie isn’t signing with the nats, but c’mon, who does looper think he is? (although one pitcher, was it taveras, compared signing with the nats to taking home the ugly girl at closing time; and another, perez iirc, signed with the nats and then, apparently realizing what he’d done, just decided not to show up)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, that was Julian Tavarez.

That has to be one of my favorite player quotes of all time.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

and we had him!

how did we ever let him escape?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 27, 2010 2:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually don't remember why we let him go; I think he became mediocre

He’s a character for sure. I remember hearing about how he punched the dugout phone in the 2004 WS, but not using his pitching hand.

Well, actually, after having looked this up I found it was the NLCS, not the WS, and that he also decked Joey Gathright and stepped on his arm in a 2006 spring training game, causing a brawl. Interesting photo essay at that link if you start from the beginning instead of the punch.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 2:47 AM EST up reply actions  

seems possible tag-team partner for carp

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 27, 2010 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Just imagine

Taveras pitching and Boog hoovering up any GBs at SS. That’s a pretty cool post-game interview double-team right there.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 27, 2010 7:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I would pay good money to see that

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember when everyone said Mark McGwire

would be a huge distraction and Spring Training would be a huge circus? Everyone are idiots.

by Mister Eff on Feb 25, 2010 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

Brother Jay's book is available Monday

Jay also gets some face time on ESPN’s outside the lines Sunday morning. This will cause a minor blip, but no distractions for the team. link to article

by ubeddie on Feb 25, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Who is this "everyone" you speak of?

You’re quoting that guy out of context.

I believe what Everyone said was that if he refused to talk about the steroid issue it would be a huge circus. He’s talked about it.

Now, what was the second half hour lead on Sportscenter last night? Oh, right, it was Jay McGwire talking about his brother’s steroid use. If you think this thing has completely gone away, you’d be wrong.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Over? No

A distraction? Also no. I don’t think the players care a bit.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 25, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I do think

it would have been a distraction had he not done the interview with Costas though. If his line had continued to be “I will not talk about the past” that would have created some issues.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

but for some reason a lot of people (the irrational) were even more upset after that interview.

by Mister Eff on Feb 25, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Orsino Hill

This Guy?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

Willie Mays Hayes?

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Feb 25, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Man, this is some good-ass cheese!

Why didn’t you tell me how good this cheese was?!

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 25, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

She's a BIG...danana...COW!!!

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Feb 25, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 25, 2010 4:31 PM EST up reply actions  

See, this is how you can tell I'm a dork

When I saw that name I didn’t think of Arsenio, I thought of Twelfth Night, by Billy Shakespeare.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

dork

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

If baseball be the food of love, play on,

Give me excess of it; that, surfeiting,
The fan in me may sicken, and so die.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

See, Twelfth Night is unappreciated

Ok, it’s not really about baseball, but still.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow. I knew it felt like a Carp start last year was an automatic win,

But better than Tudor’s ‘85? That’s impressive stuff, no two ways about it.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 25, 2010 11:12 AM EST reply actions  

auto win

before the bullpen got mixed into it..
i still can’t get over Waino’s no 20… make McC our 5SP now why don’t you… /sigh
i want smoltzi

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Can I get a summary?

I left around 10 and there are over 400 new comments now.

by Mister Eff on Feb 25, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Size 12 Mary Jane

here

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not gonna say it

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

TWJSWICE?

did I get that right?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know what that means

but damn guys, how the hell did it take you so long (here comes another twss)

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

can't stand tom hanks

so meg ryan (wonder if she’s related to brendan)

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

hang on, I'll sum it up.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I expect some sort of payment

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

While crashing drunkenly into a tree?

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 25, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

What...

…bang on a piano and sing crappy songs until u wanna puke?

:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 25, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

pay up

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2010/2/24/1324365/the-barons-big-ass-listomania-post#31344477

hmm. I’m not sure what I want from you, though. eff.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

I learned that I need to watch the sandlot

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You haven't seen that?

You’re killin me Smalls.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I will watch it this weekend yo

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

CHEESIEST thumbs-up EVER.

I blame it on Benny’s molestache.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 25, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I still love that movie

I wonder if I would have the same appreciation for it if I hadn’t seen it as a kid

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 25, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It holds up.

And it will. For. Ev. Ur.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 25, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, yeah!

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 25, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions  

also

there was a lee scratch perry to phil spector comparison that I quite enjoyed

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions  

ditto

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

prof. x though

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Right Rev. Prof. Dr. X

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

damn

I wish I could change my screen name to Rev. Prof. Dr. X

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Carp's projection

Did anyone else think Carp’s projection int he book looked out of whack? I guess they are essentially predicting that he will suffer a season-ending injury or else miss a major portion of the season due to injury? I don’t have the book here with me at the office, but didn’t they project like 7 wins for him?

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Feb 25, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

that's the problem with projection systems that involve an oft-injured player

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Is there any, ANY doubt

that he’s in the best shape of his life?

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Just like he was on Opening Night 2007?

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Flag'd.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

IIRC.....

2007 never happened, I think they canceled the season.

by kyle3776 on Feb 25, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

i have no recollection

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh

I was at that game. That stunk.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

not one iota

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

You guy's think that's bad wait till you hear this

EA sports announced today that Albert Pujol’s and Chris Carpenter are so awesome, there putting them both on the cover of madden. Hahahahahaha

by mob16151 on Feb 25, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

also make them the commentary voice

imagine that gem…
-you just have to go out there and execute.
-tha’s right mang

by d-dee on Feb 25, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

but

-i like f’in guys up
-i know mang

could be the adult version though

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

It's probably a mean

but in reality if you run the season 100 times he’ll probably be pretty bimodal – that is, he’ll either get hurt and provide limited value, or he’ll be healthy and kick ass. If you run it once (as will, erm, actually happen) he’ll be one or the other.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 27, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Franklin...

I haven’t seen this up anywhere else here, but apparently he is pondering hanging it up in ’11.

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 1:21 PM EST reply actions  

He'll be 39 at that point, right?

I doubt he’s getting a good contract at that age.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, probably looking at a Joe Beimel type contract

So not looking good in ’11

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Feb 25, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

also...

Albert on 101 “The people in St. Louis, our cardinal’s fans… dey know where I want to be.”

Regarding El Diablo… “he gave me that damn- he gave me that nickname El Hombre, there’s one Man in St. Louis and that’s Stan Musial, and that’s the way it needs to be, he deserve that respect, not me.”

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

I like the nickname

demi-gob

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

I like it too, I just found it funny to hear albert say “I didn’t give him (Strauss) the nickname El Diablo, he was the one that gave me that damn- he gave me the nickname El Hombre”

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

BADASS

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 25, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

He would have been the first 2-sport star with baseball and hockey.

Can you imagine a toothless Chris Carpenter staring you down from the mound?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 25, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Carp with a hockey stick is one of those things that goes beyond my fear horizon

doesn’t compute

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 25, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

is right

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

VexedTechie

needs to turn this into a sweet background. 1024x 600 plz. :)

"...football games always make me thankful for two things:
1. Teams that pass the ball downfield.
2. Baseball games. "
--DanUpBaby

by albrtfn on Feb 25, 2010 6:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're confused how digital images work....lol

CSI has ruined it for everyone.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 26, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not a matter of LEARNING it... I hold my own in Illustrator and Fireworks.

…it’s the fact that I’d rather not spend 5 hours on something as tedious as vector retracing.

That and it’d begin to look cartoony.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 26, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

If it looks cartoony you must not be doing it right.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright...you're the one who's supposed to be relieving my workload.

Get to it. Use Inkscape, Mr Linux.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 26, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I imagine there's gotta be a Raster to Vector conversion tool out there.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 26, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions  

rescaling to the same scale

a classic

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it was for comparison.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:12 AM EST up reply actions  

i thought you were trying to be funny

i think it looks pretty cartoon-y

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

what do you mean try, I don't need to try?

maybe you’re right, It does kind of suck compared to those that take four hours.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't know anything about it

i can’t even do basic things in photoshop

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

there are plenty of youtube videos if you want to learn

I suggest this series of videos because aside from teaching you, it’s really funny.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

it has that basement feel to it that we are so accustomed to.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

"But I bcame Chris Carpenter instead," Carp said, and then slapped me and called me a bitch.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This made me laugh more than it should

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i'd like to see pronger dig in against him

which is likely was carp was thinking…and then, “bitch”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

If ever there was a comment that deserved to NOT have a subject line

This is the one. What a BAMF.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 25, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That's a great article

As someone who’s done the long-distance thing for the last 3 years through college, I can sort of relate

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Feb 25, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Doug Glanville is on the list of major league players who went to Ivy League schools

He went to University of Pennsylvania.

Nicely written.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

index?

does this year’s Baseball Prospectus have an index of players? last year’s was missing an index and it was rather unfortunate.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps. | Cards on Cards

by madding on Feb 25, 2010 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

If I remember correctly

the BP staff posted about this about a month ago saying that it would have an index this year and that they had switched companies because of that mix up last year

"Come test me every day if you want," says Pujols, "Everything I ever made in this game I would give back to the Cardinals if I got caught."

by StLHugo on Feb 25, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: Short Film

This is one of the most well-made, interesting short films I’ve ever watched (It’s animated). Basically, a guy gets hit by a meteorite and from then on, exists exactly 91cm from his physical body. If I didn’t explain that well, you’ll figure out what I mean like 30 seconds into the movie.

I’ll warn you, it’s long (13 minutes), but definitely worth it.

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Feb 25, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions  

wow

very interesting

"Franklin has no patience for bloggers who believe because he pitches to contact, his start last season was something of a fluke."
/Downs Franklins

by BVHeck on Feb 26, 2010 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

pretty damn sad

maybe he could come back as a pitcher?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy in the cube next to me

Just came in to see what the hell I was laughing so hard at. Thanks, I needed that today. ;)

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

well

at least he has lots of $

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

It's always screwed with me

if I leave my computer @ home logged in and open in a thread. What’s it doing?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

got a link?

I’d like to save the image.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I finally started my box of Albert Pujols cereal

this morning. It’s waaaaaaaay more sugary than the stuff I usually have for breakfast, but No. 5 commands it. It must be done.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 25, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't know he had one

i have a box of ecks o’s, i think they are called, and a box of i believe wheaties with carp on the front – i’d look, but they are in chicago and i’m not

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

just finished off my box this morning

I couldn’t figure out why my urine was neon yellow, until I remembered that that cereal is choked full of B-12

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I typically eat

this organic granola stuff with pumpkin and flax seeds, so it was quite a change. I don’t think I’ve taken a piss today … now I’m afraid to.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 25, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

it freaked me out for a few days

as mentioned below, I drink a lot of water every day so when my urine stopped being clear I freaked out a bit. thankfully google saved the day.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

My SO bought a box of the Pujols Wheaties

then cut out the cardboard image of Albert’s head and taped it to a popsicle stick so he can wave it at me like a puppet and speak in his Albert Pujols voice.

Umm…I guess I didn’t describe that very well because it sounds weird, but I find it funny, and now Albert’s almost-smiling face greets me every morning in the kitchen.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 2:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I think my husband needs to read this.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 27, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

For an example of what to do, or what NOT to do?

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 2:49 AM EST up reply actions  

i think she's likely with you

but what do i know.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 27, 2010 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

What to do.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 27, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I know, I was just joking

because my SO is obviously both weird and crazy

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll look

i just have the actual magazine

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah and on the espn the magazine site

they still have the last edition’s cover up

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

a'ight, now that I'm done bowing to Mr. Eff's every whim

my usual dig-through…

Mac made sure Boog, Mather, and Freese were fed last night.

“Fries or Onion Rings.” D. Reyes said he does neither in spring training. Much laughter. – strauss

they’ve cloned Michael Eruzione

Big Mac getting emo about his brother’s book. sad sitch all around.

Cards continue to traffic in teens (ehehe.) sub needed

Albert did a 330 foot one-hopper and banged Mo’s car. No word if Mo cringed.

The Cards ads guys arrived this morning to film.

Carp and Penny’s bullpens v. impressive.

More g-d
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/feb/24/cardinals-chatter-q-allen-craig/
http://www.globe-democrat.com/news/2010/feb/24/cardinals-chatter-q-nick-stavinoha/

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

mather is getting paid alot of attention

could bode well for bombs’ fans like myself

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

hope he makes the team

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I really wish

I’d gotten a Joey Bombs t-shirt when he was in Springfield a few years ago.

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 25, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

well, he and Boog are BFF

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

boog will need a buddy

when he’s inevitably in the doghouse

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:25 AM EST up reply actions  

someone to take him on walkies

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 26, 2010 7:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Your mistake isn't crumbling under pressure

Your mistake was giving up the caffeine. Don’t do it.

If you’re my age, just do a few extra sittups while watching TV or something. hahah. Now excuse me while I grab a Dew.

which reminds me, Dew Throwback is out, gotta hit the store.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

The throwback is horrible!!!

It tastes flat. I exchanged my unopened case and I’m trying to figure out how to get rid of the last ten cans I can’t force myself to drink.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

BBQ Sauce

seriously use it to spice up some store bought bbq sauce.

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

no man

I’m serious. I used to work at a Boy Scout Camp as a counselor every summer. The best part of it was Big Sister Night (err family night). The camp cook (an old Army Sergeant / Mess Officer) would make pork steaks with his special sauce and his secret ingredients included none other than Mountain Dew and Cigars. And it was splendid.

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but he did make the best peanut butter pie. Now if there is anyone that went to this camp they will know exactly what camp I am talking about. Guesses?

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I was on a mission trip to the Gulf Coast

a few years ago and we had this old retired Air Force guy from Kentucky in the group. He made up this chocolate pecan pie on night that everyone really liked. Several people wanted the recipe, so he wrote it out and titled it KY Chocolate Pie.

Delish!

@aaronjscott

by musialsuspects on Feb 25, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

nobody guessed

care to say?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Well Of Course

It was Camp Sunnen in Potosi, MO. The man of whom I speak is the venerable Al Sanders.

by streamman on Feb 26, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

coca cola is a pretty common ingredient

in homemade BBQ sauce. no reason you couldn’t use other carbonated stuff.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Beer

and bourbon of course being the best combo!

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Beer somewhat rarely

When you boil it it gets flat and lends an odd taste . Often you just baste with it during cooking.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

that's very odd

It should actually taste less flat than Dew with corn syrup. Do you drink diet? Maybe you’ve gotten to used to that?

The other thing you could do is buy the 20oz bottles. I don’t think they were available last year, but I’ve seen ’em around this year in Throwback versions.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Never drink diet

Just did not like the taste of the throwback at all. I have generally avoided drinking soda with caffeine in it over the years but I go threw phases where I do. It’s been a long winter for me and I can use the caffeine boost to get threw it. I’ll stick to the dew with corn syrup thank you.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

soda is the devil

regular is just sugar and empty calories, while diet soda makes you want to eat a whole bag of chips.

I’d rather have a beer

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

and it removes any stain

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

the hard way

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially blood.

Now, if you need to get rid of the body the blood came from, you’re always gonna have problems lifting a body in one piece. Apparently the best thing to do is cut up a corpse into six pieces and pile it all together…And when you got your six pieces, you gotta get rid of them, because it’s no good leaving it in the deep freeze for your mum to discover, now is it? Then I hear the best thing to do is feed them to pigs. You got to starve the pigs for a few days, then the sight of a chopped-up body will look like curry to a pisshead. You gotta shave the heads of your victims, and pull the teeth out for the sake of the piggies’ digestion. You could do this afterwards, of course, but you don’t want to go sievin’ through pig shit, now do you? They will go through bone like butter. You need at least sixteen pigs to finish the job in one sitting, so be wary of any man who keeps a pig farm. They will go through a body that weighs 200 pounds in about eight minutes. That means that a single pig can consume two pounds of uncooked flesh every minute. Hence the expression, “as greedy as a pig”.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

there is never not a right time for bricktop.

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 25, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm, I didn't know that club soda

didn’t have added sugar. I’ll have to try it with Jack and see how it tastes.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

some knob creek and club soda on the rocks sounds awesome

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

mmm, knob creek

no club soda, though. rocks optional. i’d rather go straight or a little water

yeah, baby

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

usually on the rocks

but I’d rather have it with club soda than water. woodford reserve is best though

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

…it tastes like carbonated wet nothing…
:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 25, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

It's also a diet suppressant

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Feb 25, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

caffeine may not be bad for you at all

More and more research is piling up that coffee really helps men avoid some heart problems. At this point, the assumption is that it’s the caffeine, but that’s not definitive yet.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I've heard that

although I’d imagine if you drink too much of it, it’s bad for you like everything else

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

10 days caffeine sober for me

I just drink 200 oz or so of water every day, and the constant trips to the bathroom keep me awake

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm reading Goold's article and I'm wondering about Lud hitting 2nd

What, then, would the 4 5 6 spots look like?

Holliday
Rasmus?
Freese?

Maybe we assume Freese hits well and it’s
Holliday
Freese?
Rasmus?

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 3:59 PM EST reply actions  

rasmus 5

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

does TLR still like to rotate L-R as much as possible?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 25, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

My batting order:

Skip
Holliday
Pujols
Ludwick
Rasmus
Freese
Yadi
Boog/T-Greene
Pitcher

We signed Holliday to protect Pujols, so let the .380 OBP guy protect Pujols by getting on in front of him.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I think it'd be great

if TLR had the guts to try that lineup. I don’t think he will. Which is why Lud’s big OBP in his (SMALL SAMPLE SIZE) at bats in the 2 spot were interesting. I think Pujols followed by Holliday is pretty much guaranteed.

by sdrone on Feb 25, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right.

Pujols-Holliday will be the order in 150+ games.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 25, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

woohoo!

MLBSTLCardinals 2010 Play Like A Cardinal TV spots being shot today in Jupiter – Photos coming soon. #stlcards

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 4:26 PM EST reply actions  

you will be thrilled to know that the beards spot has a part II.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

oh please let me quote the Hawk
I came into the locker room after practice and Ryan Franklin said, “Get ready, we’re doing a commercial.”

Basically, Franklin was giving some of us younger relievers an inspirational speech by mentioning closers in the past here. He said you have to have a huge beard to pitch like Bruce Sutter and then a mustache for Dennis Eckersley. Then he like ripped off the fake facial hair and said you have to have the fine looks of Franklin. We had a small dispute over Jason Isringhausen. He tried to sneak his name into the commercial but they weren’t having it.

Jason Motte, Mitchell Boggs and myself were sitting in the bleachers and he was like standing over us. Our job was to just sit there and nod our heads. It was my first commercial and it was a lot of fun. I was amazed at how serious the people that were filming it made it seem. They were yelling at each other out on the field. It was kind of funny.

the man’s eloquence is stunning.. but funny

by d-dee on Feb 26, 2010 9:23 AM EST up reply actions  

security is so tight, they won't let Waino in without extra credentials...

http://pikchur.com/NhG

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:05 PM EST reply actions  

these might be ads spoilers, btw.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

that's great

had forgotten about it. now he gets to sport a glove like apu and yadi.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

and when one of them has to pitch, he can lend them his glove.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

i pray it's yadi

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd be cool if it's Albert

left-handed.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i had a kid i coached

could pitch right or left. this was little league, so the limit was 6 innings per week – as the rule stated, to protect the arm. so i pissed them off, pitched him 4-5 innings each arm one week (just to hear the bitching, because he was only my number 3 pitcher)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

lul

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Skip feature

Adam is a giggler.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:29 PM EST reply actions  

Colby

on wasting away. (Bernie)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

watercooler on impact players

including a comparison of Grady and Colby

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

and a small batch of photos

http://stltoday.mycapture.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=951540&CategoryID=38576&ListSubAlbums=0

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Brad Penny with stirrups?

I like.

Also, A.J. levitating or flying or something

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 2:17 AM EST up reply actions  

well, well, well.

I haven’t watched it, but my facetious comment of yore is now a video.

Greinke and Ankiel discuss the past.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:49 PM EST reply actions  

when k-bot comes back as a pitcher

i now realize, it will be with kc

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

avocado warning
This is a team that was devastated, embarrassed, shocked – the players’ words, not mine — by being swept in a flash by the Dodgers. Many have told me they thought they were going to the World Series with that club. But it didn’t happen. A team that limped through September, hoping they could turn it back on, did not.

From the manager to any player who sat on the bench for that somber ending, they all have vowed it will not happen again.

some FSM guy jinxing us

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Motherfu.....

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 26, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I have realized a conundrum...

our pitchers are tall enough to play third base.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

so is mather

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

so he can pitch?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

if Aaron Miles or Jose Oquendo can...

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

the more competition for freeze, the better

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

keep freeser on his toes

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

How tall is the Penguin? Has to be the shortest 3bman to play in the ML.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions  

From Matthew Leach's blog:
* Hanging in Brendan Ryan’s locker this afternoon was a t-shirt that had been made especially for him. It read, “Growing old is manditory [sic]. Growing up is not.” Let’s just say it’s a perfect fit for Ryan.

So it’s a small?

Lou Brock loves Lamp.

by birdjam on Feb 25, 2010 6:13 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Lawlz, "manditory"

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

must have been the work of larue (maybe colby?)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think Colby has ever heard the word "mandatory" or even knows what it means

Quick, Colby, use it in a sentence

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

got me there

larue then – his kids probably used the word in front of him, or something

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 27, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

those darn kids. what are they teaching them

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 27, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Sure he has.....you just have to think like a redneck.

To Larue: “Mandatory was great.”

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 27, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

so USA is playing Canada again in hockey right?

when does that take place?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

the women play tonite for gold

apparently they do not like each other either. i will have to check some out, as i’ve never seen women’s hockey, and maybe they drop the gloves.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Warning: Body checking is illegal in women's hockey...it's pretty low-contact

It’s kinda weird and I find that I can’t really watch it. (Not a knock against all women’s sports, just hockey.)

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

as far as body checking

any of them hot, or are they toothless?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure some of them are quite attractive

They are in tremendous shape, after all. That said, it’s pretty hard to tell given all the gear.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions  

actually

a lot of them are hot. some are pretty butch as you might expect, but i was pleasantly surprised by the overall hotness of the hockey women.

by muidomi84 on Feb 25, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Great day today

went to the LA Angels of Anaheim spring training site, and checked out all of the fields with my 2 sons. Vancouver universities were shut down for the duration of the Olympics to free up accommodation, so a bonus 3 weeks with the boys. My son greeted Torii Hunter, who responded amicably. He seems like a really loose, cool guy, talking with fans on the side and having a good time. His batting group included Bobby Abreu and Hideki Matsui. There were a ton of Japanese media covering Hideki in BP. Also saw Hainley Statia, a Curacao NRI SS for the Angels that my son pitched against in the 2002 Little League Senior World Series in Bangor, Maine. Ended the day in a bar watching the Canadian women win gold against USA. Tough rivalry. Also a Canadian win in women’s curling. Good Olympics for North America. Next question, the Mariners, Dodgers, or Giants camp on the weekend?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Feb 25, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

excellent

curacao is a staple in maine, right, as in williamsport?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions  

They are

at every level. LL as in 11-12, then junior 13-14; senior 15-16; and big league, which plays out in SC or NC every year.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Feb 26, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Jair Jurgens

was a position player and pitcher in the same 2002 senior series. Fun watching them progress.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Feb 26, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

who?

it sounds alot like that guy from starwars/

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Huh?

Are you serious? He is an Atlanta frontline pitcher. But, you have to understand Curacao. Maybe everyone on the island has a starwars name. I have hung out with the rabid, and friendly parents, who speak an incredible creole language of dutch, spanish, african, spanish, or whatever else. As a speaker of pidgeon Nigerian, it was still a mystery to me. Anyhow, they produce an incredible line of players, Andruw Jones, etc etc. Must go down there for a baseball holiday sometime. Starwars lives in Curacao!

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Feb 26, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you me Jurrjens?

I thought you were talking about jar jar binks.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

*mean

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions  

i remember the two brothers

SS/pitchers from williamsport – one of them just signed i believe as a 16-yr old. if you said the last name i would know, but profar of something like that comes to mind.

i’d go to williamsport every year. last year was cooperstown, though.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't find any reference

but I read about Profar as a prospect for an AL West team this week. he adolizes Andrus, the Venezuela Texas SS at 20.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on Feb 26, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, i found it

jurickson profar signed last year with the rangers for 750,000 as a ss/p.

his younger brother is juremi profar.

both starred for curacao as ss/p at LLWS for two years each (11 and 12)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 1:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Rich Hill thinks things feel good

Link to article and interview audio

I’m trying really hard not to get my hopes up here, but…well, the idea of K-Mac in the rotation terrifies me.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

yeah

I’d rather take a gamble on Rich Hill in the rotation than Kmac

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Not me.

I’ve seen Rich Hill pitch in the last two years — it hasn’t been pretty.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen McClellan pitch in the last two years

Not exactly pretty, either…

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i think they could both be adequate fifth starters

hill having more upside. he has injuries as an excuse

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah hear there's some guy out thar

who ha’n’t even signed yet, with some upside to him…can’t fer the life o’ me ‘member his name. Hear tell he’s some kinda seasoned vet…wonder if he’d wanna pitch fer us?

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

mcclellan and hill

are both much more likely to pitch 150+ innings

and neither cost $5MM. if we’re throwing around that kind of cash and it’s not for felipe lopez, i will be upset

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

smoltz is now looking for 3M i believe

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

it would be oh so sweet to sign the two for 6M total

even though I know we’re done signing pitchers.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess

i’m just not as high on smoltz as some people. i think he’s holding out till midseason anyway since he’s realistic about how many innings he can pitch. now if hill/garcia/kmac all fail to be adequate and it’s the all star break and smoltz is ready to sign…get ’er done, mo!

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions  

When did he say something about how many innings he can pitch?

some people assume this of pedro martinez as well, but he wanted to pitch all of last season it just wasn’t until midseason that the phillys signed him. Just because no one wants to sign smoltz, it doesn’t mean he’s taking the Roger Clemens route. I don’t find it impossible to believe that smoltz could pitch 150 innings, not that he would.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

he didn't make mention of # of innings pitched

but there were plenty of reports of him strongly considering going the clemens route (not steroids)

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was speculation, which is why it annoys me.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

it probably was

who knows, though

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

he wasn't considering it himself

others were considering it for him. in fact, he explicitly said he didn’t know where that was coming from, but it wasn’t coming from him.

one thing he did say, he wants to start, but if he ends up signing later in the season then he would consider the bullpen

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

that's what I thought was going on.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

It's been a whole lot prettier than Rich Hill

McClellan’s only real problem last year was a walk rate that was bordering on out of control. But he didn’t have those issues in 2008 or in the minor leagues, so I would expect he’ll regress back towards 3 walks per 9 innings, which would be find for a fifth starter. FWIW, Rich Hill has walked over 7 hitters per 9 innings since his fall from grace with the Cubs.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 26, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

i wish

the links were set to open an new tab by default. instead of having to check the little box

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm in the habit of clicking all links with the scroll wheel button on my mouse

So I hadn’t really given it much thought. But from now on I’ll try to remember to check the box.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, thanks!

i had been right click > open link in new tab-ing

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too

Otherwise, it screws up the “new comments” thing if it doesn’t open in a new tab.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Word

Some other options:

  • Holding shift when clicking a link also generates it in a new tab (shift for a new window).
  • If you have a mouse gestures extension like this one, you can also gesture to open a link in a new tab (e.g. draw a straight line upward through a link to open it).

I highly recommend using mouse gestures, it will change the way you browse.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

COULD USE AN EDIT BUTTON HERE SBN

Control button + click = new tab
Shift button + click = new window

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

with my lap top

i just click both buttons to open the link in a new tab. its kinda cool till i use i different computer

by muidomi84 on Feb 25, 2010 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

"Throwing to a group of hitters that included Julio Lugo, Ruben Gotay and Shane Robinson"

Pretty moooch the low-hanging fruit, no?

:=8/

When he strikes out Albert or Holliday with that curve, lemme know, and THEN I will get excited!

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 25, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

manny being manny

endorsing an energy drink called Sum Poosie

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Has anybody seen the weird new bat that Albert is using?

It’s in this photo from the P-D. Weird, huh?

(Inspired by this)

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 7:56 PM EST reply actions  

that one dude was definitely not wearing a cup

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 8:08 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Alright

I’ve decided those warm-up shirts the players are wearing in these pics are the bee’s knees. Does anybody sell these?

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

they’re the bp jerseys

i imagine they’d sell them in the mlb.com shop

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

And hey

who thinks Descalso looks 23? “Son, it says here you’re twenty-seven, but that’s impossible – you look like you could be forty-five”

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 25, 2010 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about age

But he sure looks Italian as hell.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 25, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

those were my thoughts

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

He looks much older than 45.

Hell, he looks like he should have died in about 1960 after a Hall of Fame career in the deadball era.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 26, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

aw.

Ham fall down.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 8:51 PM EST reply actions  

didn't know this was kemp's girlfriend

http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/22/rihanna-lap-dance-birthday-party-video/

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

if you'd read the good-look a.s.t. post

you wouldn’t have had to resort to tmz…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

^looking

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

ha, didn't even know it was tmz

have never read it, though i guess now i have. that was a link from a link of a link that i believe began on sbn.

and i’ve read the whole good-looking post but don’t recall kemp making it – perhaps it was a comment? and was this video also linked? if so, sorry.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

the video wasn't linked

but Matt Kemp got his own spread in comments, plus a mention of his gf.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

but you're the keeper of the scrolls

i can’t catalog all that in my mind – it’s like a sponge: soaks up everything, yet full of holes.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

secret:

so’s mine. that’s why i gotta write everything down.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Here ya go

first link in comment

but no video.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 27, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions  

aha

well, i collapse every picture of men not in baseball unis, and don’t read the text

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 27, 2010 2:42 AM EST up reply actions  

mlbtr is intriiiiiggguuued by Kiko

featuring an Erik Manning typo…?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

rofl

apparently belliard’s contract has an option that vests upon him not being belly-lard

If Belliard weighs in at 209 pounds or less at any point during the spring, the $825K contract he signed last month will become guaranteed.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/02/dodgers-notes-ramirez-belliard-belisario.html

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

well

upon paying attention while reading it, it turns out it’s not an option, but you get the point

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

ok so i gave in

i finally watched a little ice skating. I’m not gonna pretend like i know anything about it, but that korean girl was amazing.

by muidomi84 on Feb 25, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

i'll be taking your mancard

thank you

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sorry you're missing out on all the full extensions and the skimpy outfits.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen.

but the outfits aren’t as skimpy as they appear…. stupid nude colored fabric ruining my dirty fantasies…

by muidomi84 on Feb 25, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

stop watching in hd, and it's all a blur

skaters look more mature than gymnasts, too… there’s some pedobear goin’ on with those tiny girls

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 25, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

gymnasts kinds gross me out

like you said they’re so young, plus they have freakishly strong man legs

by muidomi84 on Feb 25, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

not nastia liukin

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions  

take mine too, then

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

She really is just on a whole other level.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 25, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

it all looks the same to me.

unless they fall i couldn’t tell you if one routine is better or worse than the next. but i could tell with her.

by muidomi84 on Feb 25, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions  

the last girl, an american

was top of the next level, but i don’t mind she got jobbed – i wanted the canadian girl to make the podium

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

She didn't get jobbed.

That was a great score for her. Next Olympics she’ll be the one to beat if she continues like this. Rachael Flatt got jobbed. She should be higher than 7th.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 26, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

the one to beat next olympics (and the next) is the 19-year old korean

who was best in the world 4 yrs. ago but too young to compete.

i watched a foreign broadcast, and they all agreed that the last american had the second best long program but wasn’t scored that way.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

and the other american girl

is technically very good but was not born for the aesthetics of the sport.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

what sport is this?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

it's not a sport

it’s a competition

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I know this, you said sport and you confused me.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

aha, i see that now - apologies.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree with them.

She may have performed her program the best but she started at a lower score because her tricks weren’t as difficult. Girls don’t generally do triple axles so doing two in a program (Asada) gives you a lot of points. Joannie’s program may have been a little overscored because of her story but it was much more mature in my opinion, which is to be expected since Mirai is 16. Her highest score in that program before was 106 something I think she got 128 something last night? That is a ridiculous jump.
And I should have said Mirai’s the one to beat if Yu-Na doesn’t return for whatever reason. SHe will be 23 which isn’t implausible especially with her conditioning so I guess she may come back. I just selfishly hope she doesn’t so Mirai has a better shot.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 26, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

And that is why it is not a sport.

Because both opinions are probably valid. I think she was pretty fairly judged, I maybe would have given her a few more points because I love her spins and think they are gorgeous. I really think I was disappointed in her short program score if I remember right though.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 26, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

gotta admit, joe, you got a chuckle out of me
saytreykid: Joe,

Enjoy your insights into the Cardinal scene — the Cardinals are in a good position to wait on veteran players by waiting to see how their youngsters develop

e.g. Boggs as a strikeout setup man – Craig/Mather as bench bats,

but doesn’t it make sense to have at least one more versatile veteran bat for the bench and or a veteran who can get on base consistently in front of Pujols and Holiday — e.g. Lopez when the Cardinals are facing a tough lefty where Schumaker and/or Rasmus won’t give them a good leadoff tandem?

Which young player has created the most buzz so far in camp?
Joe Strauss: Samuel created quite the stir with his wild bullpen session. First round draft pick Shelby Miller was compelling for different reasons Tuesday. It’s hard to make proclamations based on workouts. As savant Allen Iverson is fond of saying, “Practice? You’re talking about practice.”

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 11:44 PM EST reply actions  

aaaaaaaaaaaaand revoked
Krazyhank: As a long time fan I sure would like a “where are they now” feature on x-players

Joe Strauss: I hear you. But I don’t cover the X Games.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 25, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions  

what does he mean by "wild"

good or bad?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions  

well that's not good.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions  

never mind somehow I got samuel and Sanchez mixed-up

I now remember samuel is marmol-Esq when it comes to control
and sanchez is really good.
And Salas doesn’t help with my confusion as well.(too many s names)

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions  

upside -- nobody is digging in against this guy.

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 26, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

i had to laugh

when someone asked tony in an interview if he’s choosy about what players get to face these wild pitchers and he was like, “uhhhhhhhh, yeah”

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions  

or should I say 97ish MPH heater?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions  

but does he have a killer curve?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

The only other pitch I know he throws is a slider.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

it was a rittoricle queschin

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

spellcheck much?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

allwayes

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I really wish Salas would get more attention, his '08 numbers were even better than

sanchez’s from last year.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions  

he doesn't look the part

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

what part?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

intimidating

he’s kinda dumpy, not even lean and mean like the young kid, like pedro

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I would rather have Salas in the pen this year than the hawk.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:26 AM EST up reply actions  

i doubt that will happen

in fact i could see salas traded

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions  

come on, salas is one of my favorite prospects

My dream of a Samuels-Salas-Sanchez setup needs to come to fruition.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

no way tony could get the names straight

somebody has to go.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions  

then make it samuels, I have never been a fan of his.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions  

well, all we know

is it won’t be the other one.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I would hope not, can you imagine if the future pen achieved their potential

Motte
Boggs
Samuels
Salas
Sanchez
that would a set-up where everyone could throw 95.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 12:42 AM EST up reply actions  

what's a bad idea?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

what fang?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

i'll bet some athletes are stockpiling

to take back to georgia, uzbekhistan, etc.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 1:46 AM EST up reply actions  

http://eightsolid.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/18.jpg

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that'll work

patch it like a bike intertube

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Well,

I know what I have to write about tonight now.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 26, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

apparently the summer Olympics was the same way

Olympic athletes have to display an unnatural level of self-discipline in the build-up to big competitions. How else is this going to manifest itself than with a volcanic release of pent-up hedonism?"

by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 26, 2010 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you know how much energy you have when you're tapering (which is what you do right before competing)?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 26, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a sudden desire to become an Olympian

I could probably get that good at curling pretty quick, right?

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 26, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

and the curlers likely use (get) the most

so yeah, definitely curling

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:02 AM EST up reply actions  

and rec'd

just for general purpose

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Feb 26, 2010 3:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I have a weird nostalgia for some wcbw

not sure why. our drummer just got a gong though, and he has 4 different sized mallets which produce different tones on the the bastard. you’d be surprised how much dynamic range it has volume wise. we are playing with some band that uses face paint tomorrow night, that should be pretty funny. I wish spring training games were starting soon.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 1:57 AM EST reply actions  

yeah

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

he was before my time

but i’ve caught references. what’d he do?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

he would simply blow your mind

in a couple of odd paragraphs

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

and he got banned for that?

at least it sounds like he was banned.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

he kept doing some weird passive aggressive conspiracy shit

hard to explain

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

He was banned

because he would cause trouble by posting very cryptic, odd statements about things and then be very condescending when people would argue with him. Larry finally got tired of his antics and tossed him.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 26, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions  

was he actually a cardinal fan

do you think?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I think he was

he would post on other forums too. I dunno, email one of us and we’ll try to fill you in on the legend heh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions  

No.

Well, sort of. He was related to Kyle Lohse and so showed up here right around the time Lohse was signed originally. Problem was, he would get little snippets of clubhouse stuff from Lohse, then post bits and pieces here but refuse to explain what he meant. It was very odd.

For what it’s worth, I corresponded with him via email a couple times and actually liked the guy. When Lb left, WCBW petitioned me to unban him. I took it to the other mods, and it was collectively decided it was more trouble than it was worth.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 26, 2010 2:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I don’t read the forums there all that closely. Does he still do………..this?

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 26, 2010 2:16 AM EST up reply actions  

i wonder if writer-director theroux

is related to paul. i know salinger’s son was in hollywood, maybe still is…counting his money.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Ben Stiller

has officially run out of ideas.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 26, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Tropic Thunder was a pretty fucking epic idea

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 26, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

That was horribly executed

with the exception of Tom Cruise and Robert Downey Jr.

Seriously — Stiller and Jack Black are TERRIBLE in the movie.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 26, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

of only it was made with Ferrell instead of black.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 26, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

well, lohse is from nocal

and native american, so that could explain a lot (i’m 1/8 to 1/4 injun myself)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:21 AM EST up reply actions  

As crazy as WCBW was

He never produced anything I found quite as cryptically fascinating as “evident the wash.”

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 26, 2010 2:58 AM EST up reply actions  

mother of god

i was fascinated myself. i kept scrolling down to find another post from him…what a joy. the first person i recognized thru it all was gdm, and then a little later hardcore legend and valatan. didn’t know the others, but everyone sure got a kick out of it…ken kesey and the merry pranksters!

should get yadi2 on this, but veb should have a HOF of comments, and that is not only first-ballot, that is inner circle, fucksakes.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 3:10 AM EST up reply actions  

and where the hell is southern redbird?

great suggestion by someone, the veb t-shirts with “evident the wash”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 3:14 AM EST up reply actions  

I'll take a splint anyday!

Goin home to glory!

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

no effing way

I’m crazy but I’m not that crazy

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 26, 2010 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

where's your patriotism?

do it for albertofstan!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember there was some guy who we thought might be wcbw

but it turned out not to be, wasn’t quite………… weird enough

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

are you rambling again?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 2:03 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 2:04 AM EST up reply actions  

spring training games are starting soon

one week, right?

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 26, 2010 2:05 AM EST up reply actions  

bring on march woooooo

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 26, 2010 2:06 AM EST up reply actions  

canadian hockey girls gone wild

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/olympics/2010/02/26/behavior.hko.ap/index.html?eref=sihp

they don’t say what or who prevented the chick from taking the zamboni for a spin.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 26, 2010 5:51 AM EST reply actions  

HAHAHA

ESPN thinks we acquired Rich Harden. Mike&Mike graphic showing releases and three acquisitions believes cubs are all the same.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 26, 2010 7:38 AM EST reply actions  

those *bastards*

Golic gets chocolate-covered bacon in chocolate pudding

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 26, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

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