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I was sitting on my sofa last night, watching the MLB Network, and Barry Larkin was demonstrating a particular batting drill. Harold Reynolds was crouching down behind the plate, soft-tossing balls toward Larkin, who would then hit the ball. As he was hitting, Larkin was explaining to the audience why this drill was so good. It helps to slow everything down, he said, rather than having you jump at the ball. It was then he said something which made me deliriously happy.

"See, it just slows absolutely everything down. That's why I like it from the back like this. I like it from the side, too, or behind."

And then Harold Reynolds tossed another.

I immediately felt my face break into an enormous grin and grabbed my phone. I texted a friend of mine, wanting to share my new joy, and she found it hilarious as well.

What's more, I found myself narrating the show the rest of the way as it should have gone. "Come on, Harold. Give him a hug. Just a little hug. Just creep up from behind, just the way he likes, and hug him. See, it's no big deal. This is all fine. Okay, now tell him what a good shortstop he was. Tell him he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame just for how good he looked in his uniform. Yeah, it's okay. It's just a drill, just a drill you guys are working on. What's that? Magrane wants to watch your drill? Well, sure, that's fine. No harm in letting ol' Joe just watch, is there?"

It was a good day.

Unfortunately, I find myself with little good today. I'm staring down what promises to be a very long and unpleasant day, and I simply don't have time for a proper Baronial posting. So I was sitting here, trying to think of something quick I could do, and it suddenly came to me. I'm going to make a list.

But not just any list. No, I'm going to make a bunch of lists, and then you can all argue over them. Sound like fun? No? Well, too damned bad. I say it's going to be lists, and lists it's going to be.

And awaaaayyyyy we go.

Star-divide

 Five pitchers I most enjoyed watching in a Cardinal uniform

  1. John Tudor
  2. Chris Carpenter
  3. Dennis Eckersley
  4. Rick Ankiel
  5. Adam Wainwright 

Five favourite pitchers, non-Cardinal division

  1. Steve Avery
  2. David Cone
  3. Scott Sanderson
  4. Mitch Williams
  5. Pedro Martinez

Three best ballparks I've ever been to

  1. PNC, Pittsburgh
  2. Coors Field, Colorado
  3. Camden Yards, Baltimore

Three worst ballparks I've been to

  1. The Metrodome, Minnesota
  2. Wrigley Field, Chicago (And not just because it's full of Cub fans. It smells awful, it's in the middle of effing Webster Groves, and I don't like peeing in a trough.) 
  3. Veteran's Stadium, Philadelphia (Oh. My. God.) 

Five best records with Dan and Al on mute

  1. "Death of a Ladies' Man" - Leonard Cohen (Seriously. Cohen and baseball just go together for me. No idea why.)
  2. "Travelling Without Moving" - Jamiroquai (Lights out, Cards on, and let the dancing commence.)
  3. "Swan Lake" - Moscow RTV Symphony Orchestra, Vladimir Fedoseyeve conducting
  4. "Snow Machine" - Snow Machine
  5. "Electro-Shock Blues" - Eels

 Six players I wouldn't mind seeing hit by a bus

  1. Al Leiter
  2. Darren Daulton
  3. Ryan Braun
  4. David Wells
  5. Howard Johnson
  6. Matt Williams

Three best uniforms (current)

  1. Cardinals Home
  2. Yankees Home
  3. Tie: Giants Home (the off-white is sweet), Tigers Home, and Phillies Home Alternate (non-pinstripe with the blue accents)

Three worst uniforms (current)

  1.  Those funny goldish Padres unis
  2. Cardinals Sunday Home (I hatehatehatehatehate those hats)
  3. DBacks Home

Four favourite ballpark vending items

  1. Hot dog
  2. Pretzel
  3. Those big drinks with fruit punch and orange sherbert in them
  4. Peanuts

Three foods I wish I could get at the game

  1. Fried alligator (possibly on a stick)
  2. Fish and chips
  3. Sushi (though I wonder about the heat. Hmm. Maybe not.) 

 Three beers I wish I could get at the game 

  1. St. Louis Peach (The city is right in the name! No, I don't care that it's made in Belgium, damn it!) 
  2. Michelob Golden
  3. Square One Agave Wheat

Five favourite baseball movies

  1. Eight Men Out
  2. Bull Durham
  3. A League of Their Own
  4. Bingo Long and the Travelling All-Stars  
  5. Major League 

And finally,

My ten favourite Cardinal moments of the past decade

  1.  The final out of the 2006 World Series
  2. Albert destroying Brad Lidge's career
  3. Edmonds going over the wall in Cincinnati 
  4. Mark Mulder staring down Clemens for ten innings
  5. The whole 2004 NLCS
  6. The whole 2001 NLDS
  7. Albert hitting three homers in Cincy on Easter
  8. Bud Smith's no-hitter
  9. Carlos Beltran staring at a curveball
  10. Getting to attend the All-Star game for free 

And that's enough of that. Feel free to tear apart my lists or make your own or just yell at each other. Whatever you like.

The Baron's Playlist for the 24th of February, 2010

"Movie Magg" - Carl Perkins

"Cast Iron Arm" - Peanuts Wilson

"Go! Go! Go!" - Roy Orbison

"Love Always, Charlie" - 7 Shot Screamers

"Serious" - Richard Hawley

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Pitcher I like watching : Joaquin Andujar
Worst Park: Wrigley by far.
Player to be hit by a bus: Mark Prior

by Riney on Feb 24, 2010 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

To be fair

Mark Prior has already been hit by a bus.

That bus? The “Tom House Pitching Mechanics Express” Coming soon to ruin young arms near you!!!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually I think the bus

had Mr. Selig’s signature on it and only impacted his elbow… still seems to have the same results though.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

no gibby?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Think he's too young to have seen him.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

get off sportsman's lawn

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 24, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I am old but not that old.

You are helping me along faster than my kids!

by Riney on Feb 24, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Favorite Cardinal Moments:

Your number 9 is my number 1; your numbers 1 and 2 are my 3 and 4. My number 2—and it’s not in this decade—is here: I still get choked up thinking about it.

by Archaeopteryx on Feb 24, 2010 10:44 AM EST reply actions  

Lol @ Whitey
“I hadn’t given up,” St. Louis manager Whitey Herzog would say later, “but I was up in the clubhouse having a Budweiser.”

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Awesome Cards memory

This pennant race was just great. I was listening to the game with a Mets fan and woke up his one year old when Terry hit that one out.

by ubeddie on Feb 24, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

great article

great times, great pond-scum-hating memories.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I was surprised Beltran only made number 9

I will forever remember Wagonmaker’s curve against Beltran. I remember that Game 7 much more than anything about the World Series that year.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

They're not in order.

Just in the order I happened to think of them.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 24, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

ah, okay... fair enough

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

i haven't read through

but there’s also sure to be a generational thing here – for instance, some of us saw gibby pitch, whereas he’s not on baron’s list for either pitchers or favorite moments.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too.

I heard it on the radio.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Feb 24, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Much as I didn't like Howard Johnson

I respect him more and more as the years pass.
I’d trade him for Keith Hernandez in a second. I still haven’t forgiven him, and his forgetting to apologize to St. Louis fans (until far after he apologized to New York fans) didn’t help.
And Garry Templeton deserves a bus mention also.
I think my second favorite Cardinals moment is game 4 of the 1996 NLCS. That was a fun game, even if the rest of the series sucked.

by chessed on Feb 24, 2010 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Plus his room-service is miserable.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Howard Johnson is right....

Reverend!!!!

sorry… a little Blazing Saddles humor.

What happened to our team?

by und3rtovv on Feb 24, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Pitchers

I’d have to put Gibson a the top of the first list. First game I ever attended as a youngster Gibson pitched against the Cubs. Billy Williams hit a 3 run homer off him in the first. He shut them out the rest of the way and the Cards won behind home runs from Gibby and Jose Cardenal.

by NCSaluki on Feb 24, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

Gibby would certainly be on my list

of pitchers that I wish I had gotten to see pitch. Unfortunately, I only got to listen to his games, still enjoyed it immensely.

Speaking of listening, my short list of favorite Cards’ moments heard on the radio:
   1. Jack Buck saying anything
   2. Final out of the 2006 WS (yes, I didn’t get to see it live, but heard it on the radio)
   3. Shannonisms
   4. Falling asleep as a kid listening to Jack and Mike from LA or SF
   5. Harry Carry singing “The Cardinals are coming, tra-la-la-la. The Cubbies are worried ha-ha-ha-ha”

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Gibby

Amen. He was FIERCE.

I also enjoyed Steve Carlton, and to be fair I liked Hrabosky when he pitched. (His mouth, not so much…)

by madridbend on Feb 24, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, how is Barry Bonds not on that list?

he’s the first person that came to my mind.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

perhaps he likes buses and doesn't want barry to hurt the bus?

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 24, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Matt Williams

I understand everyone else on that list, but what do you have against Matt Williams? If anything you should pity the guy for losing his one shot at taking a run at Roger Maris because of the strike shortened season. Granted, I’m partial because I got to see him play in my native Cleveland, and then he played for the fledgling D-backs when I moved out here to AZ. He’s a decent guy, and a good guy, so I don’t like when good guys are hit by buses. I’d substitute John Kruk for Matt Williams, or maybe Manny Ramirez.

Best parks I’ve visited:
Jacob’s Field – Cleveland (homerism at it’s best)
New Brave’s Stadium (their stadium village is really kick ass)
Coors Field (It’s just so damn picturesque)
Busch II in the last season
Petco (I liked it much better than Jack Murphy)

Stadiums I hated:
Shea Stadium (I have to go all Mr. Anderson and say what I hated most was the smell, I felt saturated by it)
Old Cleveland Municipal
Chavez Ravine – LA Dodgers: Try not to get lost if you don’t have GPS and you are not from LA. I ended up in a neighborhood that looked like it was the perfect place to shoot a film about Gang-bangers.

Favorite Cards Moments (or at least most memorable for me in addition to your list)
Suppan battling Clemens
Jimmy with the double fist pump
Pujols and the Oliver Perez batflip
Carpenter vs. Vazquez here in AZ in a 1-0 pitcher’s duel of epic proportions
Cards vs. D-backs playoff game (forget the year) where all of the big 3 go yard off of Randy Johnson and other pitchers in one playoff game. The treatment of my friend who is a cards fan during that game cemented my shift from a casual D-backs fan and casual Cards fan to not a D-backs fan and more hardcore Cards fan.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 10:51 AM EST reply actions  

I question your movie rankings

Major League should be at the top, followed by Bull Durham imo. Although, props on Bingo Long and the Traveling All-stars. it’s got so many great actors, yet nobody seems to know what it is usually.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Feb 24, 2010 11:01 AM EST reply actions  

It always seems to gets lost in the

Great Baseball Movie category.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Indeed

James Earl Jones, Lando Calriss….errr Billy Dee Williams, and a few other notables as well.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Feb 24, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it me

or is Bull Durham overrated? It has some nice moments, but watching Tim Robbins pitch is painful.

" Baseball is reassuring. It makes me feel as if the world is not going to blow up." - Sharon Olds, This Sporting Life, 1987

by Futility Infielder on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

True

but the writing of that movie is second to none in terms of authenticity. Ron Shelton played minor league baseball, so it’s by far the best informed writing of any movie about baseball that there ever has been, imo. The whole animosity toward rookies by veterans, the give and take of the pitcher and catcher relationship, life in the bus leagues, the baseball “Annie’s” (which are a whole lot more interesting the the basketball “groupies”), etc.

Bull Durham really gives you a sense of what life as a career minor league player might actually be like.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

no.

that is one of my favorite movies of all time. i watch it every year on the first day of spring training. never gets old.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That's how Major League is for me....

and good point, fourstick. I had forgotten Ron Shelton’s past….

" Baseball is reassuring. It makes me feel as if the world is not going to blow up." - Sharon Olds, This Sporting Life, 1987

by Futility Infielder on Feb 24, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll put Ron Shelton's sports movies

up there with any other sports movies ever made. Tin Cup is the best golf movie I’ve ever seen (although The Greatest Game Ever Played is pretty damn good), and White Men Can’t Jump is a fantastic basketball movie. Even Blue Chips is pretty decent. He wrote and directed Cobb and did a pretty good job of staying in the middle ground with a controversial figure. Play it to the Bone is even a pretty good movie about boxing.

The guy really knows how to write sports movies and make them entertaining. All of those movies really hold up even after 15 to 20 years has passed.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I really liked Blue Chips, a lot

always been a big Nick Nolte fan, and I honestly thought that Shaq was really, really good in that film – like, surprisingly so, and I’m not sure why his performance didn’t get a few more plaudits, in fact.

To my shame I must admit I’ve never seen Bull Durham. In general, I’m not a big fan of sports movies.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saw Tin Cup again recently.

I love that movie.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I caught the ending one day and the middle another. Hopefully I catch the beginning soon.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

"I got the shanks."

“Are you taking penicillin?”

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Not a fan of Tin Cup

The ridiculously unrealistic ending ruined it for me.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 24, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

The rest of the movie is fantastic

and it’s the only movie Don Johnson is worth a shit in. Well, maybe Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man, but that’s a guilty pleasure I think, lol.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I always get Don Johnson and Tom Berenger mixed up

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

If you're talking about the 72nd at the US Open

I actually quite liked the ending

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 24, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I just think it kinda went over the top

I think it’s great thematically — a man can’t overcome all his demons….

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

what does that have to do with anything?

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

hmmm

that’s a bit of a stretch. even so, i like it for all the baseball stuff, not all the rom-com stuff.

who the hell are you? i’m the player to be named later.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

75% of the movie was spent on baseball and tutoring Nuke

Even when he’s with Annie, a lot of that is about his baseball.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

You mean accountants sit around talking baseball and interview techniques? Ride the bus to different towns to do people’s taxes? Hang out at bars with washed up baseball pool hall owners and talk about how 1 gork a week is the difference between .250 and .300?

I think you mean theme, not storyline. The storyline is the intertwining motivations of playing minor league baseball and the similarities to that and middle age romance. Baseball is a central part of the storyline, and also a central part of the theme.

There isn’t another baseball movie out there that talks about the game literally as well as Bull Durham does.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh for fucks sake.

Old guy at a job mentors the new guy at the job. Both fall for town skank, old guy and skank find true love. The end.

by Mister Eff on Feb 24, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You can make any movie sound bad If you horribly oversimplify it like that

Man goes to prison. Man makes friends in prison and manipulates evil prison warden. Man escapes prison. Friend gets out of prison and meets man in Mexico. The end.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

your comment's too long for a professional pitch.

sadly that’s how they buy and sell movies.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

But if you say

“I have Morgan Freeman and Tim Robbins on board” it has a much better chance of getting made.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Well okay

Man goes to prison. Man escapes prison. The end.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

so would the pitch be "Stephen King"?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

the guys they're pitching to

may be too young to remember Carrie

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

No, that's too long

“Prison, King”?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:17 AM EST up reply actions  

And this is why I love Pulp Fiction

Hitmen get a scare. One quits because of that scare. Boxer promises to Boss to throw fight….doesn’t, flees with lots of money (and annoying whore girlfriend). Runs into now single Hitman, able to kill him. Boxer runs into Boss, proceed to fight to the death but are captured by mannapping rapists. Boxer escapes, saves Boss. Rides into sunset.

Even the chop shop version is still complicated.

Whoever invented the “two sentence” rule in Hollywood should be thrown off a cliff. We’ve already had this discussion, but I will again say that if you can give someone 2 sentences to describe a movie and then drop them in at any point and the movie would make sense no matter what, it is a bad movie.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Same with Memento

or Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels, or Snatch, or Clerks, or half of the other good movies that have been released in the last 20 years. Try summing up any Scorsese movie (Last Temptation and Aviator aside) in two sentences. Or even any Capra movie. These guys are considered greats in the business.

I do think that you can make a good two line movie if you do it the right way, though. The right way being “Not like Michael Bay”.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

The Island was pretty clearly Bay's best movie

Scarlett Johansson running around in white pants.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that all depends on the summary, doesn't it?

The Departed: two men on opposite sides of the law – an organized crime mole and an undercover informant – struggle to maintain their true identities and struggle against each other to accomplish their respective goals. Only one prevails in the end.

It’s pretty broad, but the measure of a movie isn’t a person’s ability to summarize it in two sentences.

by Ray Lankford on Feb 24, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

2 sentences to describe a movie and then drop them in at any point and the movie would make sense no matter what

You’d have no idea who Wahlberg or Baldwin or Nicholson, let alone make sense of the ending, from that. I’m talking "robots land on planet, dorky kid helps them find “life giving thing” with hot girl who he is infatuated with. Good Robots beat Evil Robots in protracted special effects sequence."

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

And that isn't a good summary from The Departed either

Because neither prevail at the end, for one, and you haven’t even mentioned Nicholson’s character or Wahlberg’s character, who have essential roles in the movie as well.

The point is, you can’t summarize that movie in two lines and do it justice. There are too many undercurrents that you can’t possibly do it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Um
It’s pretty broad, but the measure of a movie isn’t a person’s ability to summarize it in two sentences.

That’s kinda what joker and I are trying to point out.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

There's a difference between not liking a movie

and tearing it down trying to make everyone else feel the same way. I don’t do it with the Natrual, I just point out why I don’t like it. I think you’re massively oversimplifying the movie’s overall theme and plot so your point looks more valid. We get it, you don’t like the movie.

There are critically acclaimed movies that I absolutely hate, but I think Bull Durham was written very well for the audience it was intended for.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't dislike it!

I just think it’s a chick flick wrapped in a baseball movie.

by Mister Eff on Feb 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

See, again

you’re oversimplifying it, trying to make it sound like a chick flick, when most of us clearly don’t think that way. Better to let those who haven’t seen it make their own inferences on it then scream “Chick Flick” at them so they don’t watch it at all.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying you can't give your opinion

I just think that if you’re going to give your opinion you ought to at least flesh it out as to why you feel that way.

I don’t see any women going to Bull Durham by themselves OR dragging their husbands and boyfriends to see it. That’s the definition of a chick flick to me. No guy would go see “He’s Just Not That Into You” or “Sex in the City” with a group of other guys. Yet I have a group of friends that get together every year during spring training and watch Bull Durham.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

actually it sounded like you did

I liked Bull Durham (not my favorite baseball movie) but it was because I thought the same thing. My general impression of it was that it was a chick flick wrapped in a sports theme. Personally, I liked “For love of the game” which was much more obviously a chick flick wrapped in a sports theme.

You can say he’s oversimplifying it, but that’s what a generalization is. You could say you disagree with it, but the down and dirty of it, it’s a chick flick with a sports theme. Yes one or two sentences never give you enough detail to know what it’s about, but everyone’s described even the best movies quickly like this. Or if it’s more complex, you say, it’s complex like “movie A”

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Like I said, no women are seeing that movie on their own

or with other women. Thus, it cannot be a chick flick. The end.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

here, here

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Fourstick:
I don’t see any women going to Bull Durham by themselves OR dragging their husbands and boyfriends to see it. That’s the definition of a chick flick to me.

Spants:

Like I said, no women are seeing that movie on their own
or with other women. Thus, it cannot be a chick flick. The end.

HOLY SHIT EVERYONE, FOURSTICK = SPANTS!!!!!

But which is the sock-puppet account, and which is the “real” one? We demand to know!

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, I said it first.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 25, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you're getting "Chick Flick"

confused with “love story”. There are love stories that aren’t chick flicks. Would you consider Casablanca a “chick flick”? What about “Annie Hall”? “Gone With the Wind?”

You can have a love story without it being a “chick flick”. I think chick flick is a negative connotation for a contrived romantic story line.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 6:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

there it is.

that makes perfect sense. a rec for you sir.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody has any problems with you giving your opinion, but you need to back it up with stats.

If you’d said “Bull Durham is 76.89% a chick-flick” then everybody would be fine with that.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, we could just look up the film on filmgraphs.com

and the evidence would speak for itself.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW

I don’t know any other girls IRL who like that movie besides me.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Look.

No women would see that movie by themselves or with another woman unless they’re huge baseball fans.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

this.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought that was ceded to spants.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

enforcement

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Technically, so is Major League.

And Tin Cup. And a League of Their Own.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Just watched Major League the other day. There’s a lot of screen time devoted to Lynn and Jake.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

In Bull Durham,

the plot is the shaping of LaLoosh as a pitcher. A love triangle becomes part of the plot, but it’s not THE plot.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

As one of my writing professors told me in college

Good writing always has “the thing and the other thing.” Both of those elements of the plot are what make the movie so interesting, and the movie wouldn’t be good if either of them were taken out.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I wholeheartedly agree.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't agree with that...

the main plot of the movie centers on Crash Davis. How smart, heady players like Crash can’t overcome stupid but incredibly talented players like Nuke LaLoosh. How people like Crash can continue playing the game thinking they still have a shot at the bigs (and because they love it so much), while middle age women like Annie can continue sleeping with one player a season telling themselves that it can last forever, even though they’d really just like to settle down.

It’s about that middle life longing for one thing but coming to the realization that maybe your current life isn’t what’s making you happy and searching for that thing that does.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

LaLoosh's career drives the movie.

Crash is brought in to train him. Annie chooses Nuke to train him in other ways.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That makes sense....

but only if you cut off the movie after Nuke gets moved up to the big leagues. But the movie doesn’t end there. The movie ends with Crash getting Annie, then getting released, finding a way to finish the season, hanging up his spikes, and returning back to Annie at the end.

If the film revolved around Nuke, why tie up all those loose ends with the supporting characters at the end? Why do we care? Crash Davis is a projection of Shelton’s career and how he thought it should have ended. He’s said this before in interviews.

The reason the LaLoosh character even exists is to endear the audience to Crash and also to provide comic relief because these idiots do exist in the sports world and occasionally they are really talented players.

And yes, I did a critical analysis of the movie Bull Durham for a film class, in case you were wondering.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say they were supporting characters.

And I didn’t say it revolved around him. His career is what sets everything in motion. It drives the plot.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

But that's my point

he doesn’t drive the plot. If he did, the movie would end when he exits. Annie drives the plot more than Nuke. She’s the catalyst. Nuke is really just a supporting character, imo.

William Wallace drives the plot of Braveheart. The movie ends in the avenging of his death. Nuke’s career has absolutely no impact on the last 15 minutes of Bull Durham. None. I don’t see how he can drive the plot when he doesn’t factor in the ending.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think we're talking about two different things.

He is a foil. Foils drive plots. Without them there is no conflict and thus no story.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Could be

He is definitely a foil. But that doesn’t mean that movie couldn’t exist without him. I think that thematically the movie doesn’t really need him, he’s more a sideshow.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

You could replace him with a veteran pitcher who hasn’t seen Crash since his rookie year and have that guy competing for Annie.

You could flip the movie on it’s head and make it just about Crash chasing Annie and then finally getting her — even though she isn’t hooked up with someone else.

Now, try making the movie without Crash.

Good luck.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

We'll just have to agree to disagree

75% of the movie is spent on baseball with Nuke being the main part of that. The underlying love plot isn’t really his, but you can’t make that movie without young Nuke. It’s a baseball movie and he’s the baseball.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry four

But if you change Nuke to a veteran pitcher then you’ve changed the entire dynamic of the film. Someone mentioned before it takes away one of the main themes of Annie always going to another guy each year, and choosing the vet in the end over another fling. If she’s choosing one vet over another, then it ruins the entire theme of flings verses settling down, and giving up the dream and growing up, etc. which is a huge theme in the film. yes you can still make the film, but it’s an entirely different film in that case.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

True

but you still have a movie, because you still have the plot and theme, you just might have a different protagonist.

You can’t replace Crash or Annie — they are central characters to the movie’s theme: Accepting your lot in life for what it is and finding happiness there. I agree that Nuke is a sub-plot of that, but I dont’ think that he’s essential to the overall theme of the movie.

That would be saying that Robin Concorde or all of Diane’s boyfriends on Cheers were central driving forces for that TV show — they weren’t. It was Sam chasing Diane and Rebecca because he couldn’t figure out why they didn’t want him.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That doesn't make sense Four

Because you said you can’t replace Crash or Annie, but when you recommended replacing Nuke, you just replaced him with another pitcher who fulfills the exact same role (assuming you are talking about a guy who is more successful than Crash) Then you could technically replace Annie with another woman who is slightly younger, but realizes earlier that she wants to settle down so she doesn’t end up like Annie, pathetic and old without stability. Or you could replace Crash with a young catcher who maybe hurts himself and has to come to grips with the reality that he’ll never make the bigs and it changes the dynamics of his relationship with Nuke where he’s envious in a slightly different way. It changes the movie the same amount as if you change Nuke’s character and keeps the same general themes and love story working.

You can’t just say, one guy is interchangeable, when your example of the change makes it a completely different movie and story arc. Otherwise I can change Crash, have a different story arc, and claim it’s close enough to the original to say it hasn’t changed much.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Technically,

Nuke’s a blocking character – specifically (in Frye’s terms) an alazon.

Or you could pull Burke in and declare Nuke a part of the Scene.

Either way, the Nuke piece is a sub-plot: his graduation to the illusory paradise of the big leagues ironically mirrors Crash and Annie’s graduation to deeper understanding of the reality they inhabit.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Feb 24, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

How does Crash meet Annie without Nuke?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually, Crash met Annie

through Max, at the bar at the beginning of the movie, so that isn’t the issue. The bigger issue is why would Crash be in Durham without Nuke being there. Would they have bought out his AAA contract to season another pitcher?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

As I said,

Nuke is part of the Scene, the situation.

And he doesn’t ‘drive’ anything, he’s not an active character: things happen to Nuke, he doesn’t make them happen.

ceterum censeo, delendo est Joe Strauss

by alberich on Feb 24, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

That was my point.

He doesn’t get the chance to meet her without Nuke.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 25, 2010 2:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Is his equivalent character in Tin Cup

therefore the “tin foil”?

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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Annie doesn't really choose Nuke

“After 12 years in the minor leagues, I don’t tryout. Besides—I don’t believe in Quantum Physics when it comes to matters of the heart…or loins.”

“I’m not interested in a woman who’s interested in that boy.”

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

and btw,

61* is a really great baseball movie that not a lot of people have seen. that makes my top 5.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a good movie.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

despite not having seen many baseball movies

I have actually seen that one. And I agree – it’s very good.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

totally agree...

I still remember the players playing the card game TEGWAR in their downtime, it seems authentic in the depiction of what a season must be like for the players.

by kyle3776 on Feb 24, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Deniros first role!

great movie love that one

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

That was, like, his tenth movie. Granted, most of his earlier films were bit parts, and this was his first major role, but even so.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

it was pre mean streets right?

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 24, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Same year, '73.

But he was in movies going all the way back to 1965.

link

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

My favorite baseball movie

as stated waaay down the comment list.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

I like The Rookie better

Also, what? no mention of The Natural?

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah what about Rookie of the Year

and Little Big League… how are we forgetting the classics?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I do think Tim Robbins is a bit overrated

And that’s great screen name

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I agree with that

his recent career has more or less been made by playing the same character in quite a lot of his movies, too. Nonetheless, I like him.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

8 Men Out is better than either of those movies

but where is The Natural?

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Bang the Drum Slowly

 Bang the Drum Slowly makes my list, with Major League and Bull Durham.

DeNiro was awesome as the doomed half-witted catcher.

by madridbend on Feb 24, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ugh

Major League is waaaayyy over-rated. But then, I’m not generally into sophomoronic humor.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

You should come over to the dark side...

it’s much more fun over here.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was absolutely hilarious

I use so many quotes from that movie.

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Feb 24, 2010 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I strongly disagree.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

but-

are you not a sophomore?

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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:29 AM EST up reply actions  

A wise fool indeed

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 25, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Technically I'm a junior.

Credits wise.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 25, 2010 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Outstanding! The MooCow Reply:

Five pitchers I most enjoyed watching in a Cardinal uniform

   1. John Tudor
   2. Chris Carpenter
   3. Dennis Eckersley
   4. Walking Underwear (Joaquin Andujar)
   5. Adam Wainwright tie with Al Hrabosky

Five favourite pitchers, non-Cardinal division

   1. Steve Carlton
   2. Jim Palmer
   3. Rollie Fingers
   4. Dennis Martinez
   5. Nolan Ryan

Three best ballparks I’ve ever been to

   1. Camden Yards, Baltimore
   2. Blue Rocks Stadium (Wilmington, De!!)
   3. Fenway Park, Boston

Three worst ballparks I’ve been to

   1. Shea Stadium, NY
   2. Wrigley Field, Chicago
   3. Veteran’s Stadium, Philadelphia

Five best records with Dan and Al on mute
n/a

Six players I wouldn’t mind seeing hit by a bus

   1. Jason Marquis!
   2. Barry Bonds
   3. Barry Bonds
   4. and also Barry Bonds
   5. Arod
   6. Carlos Zambrano

Meh, the rest don’t interest me except:

My ten favourite Cardinal moments of the past decade

   1. The final out of the 2006 World Series
   2. Carlos Beltran staring at a curveball
   3. Albert destroying Brad Lidge’s career
   4. Edmonds going over the wall in Cincinnati
   5. Albert poking out the “I” in Big Mac
   6. Albert hitting three homers in Cincy on Easter
   7. Rick Ankiel’s 2 laser throws from the outfield
   8. The whole 2004 NLCS
   9. The whole 2001 NLDS
  10. Bud Smith’s no-hitter

Back to the salt mines….
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 24, 2010 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

The mines must be tough for a cow.

No grass or anything! How do you get by?

In football, the object is for the quarterback, otherwise known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his recievers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use the shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! "I hope I'll be safe at home!"
-George Carlin (RIP)

by Taskmaster on Feb 24, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Salt mines

infers salt licks?

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

can't say i disagree with anything but,

I would add the A’s homies on the best uni list. We make to PnC every year. Going to the May 8th game.

by nybirdfan on Feb 24, 2010 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

So that's interesting

You had a sex joke associated with baseball and you texted a woman about it.

Perhaps you should marry her.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

i assumed it was that post

that elicited sdrone’s comment.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Different woman.

I should really start keeping more stuff to myself.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions  

no, no you shouldn't

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Feb 25, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah, don't worry.

I make that resolution couple times a week. Never happens.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

uhhh..

to the previous post in the thread from you, I reply “damn, screwed that one up”

to the current post…“keep doin’ what you’re doin’.”

by stlfan on Feb 28, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Is there really a Webster Groves in Chicago too?

And the camo Padres uniforms are just terrible. Why must they have camouflage uniforms? Do they think the other teams can’t see them?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

It's a tribute to the Marine

training base there. Every home Sunday is camo day. As much as I don’t like the uni’s, I respect the intent.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

That is acceptable.

I still think they would better appreciate the Marines if they had a not-ridiculous-looking way of paying tribute to them.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

They (service members) get in either free,

or super cheap as well, IIRC.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel like that should be universal.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It is.

Active Duty get a SRO ticket for free everywhere (if available).

by Mister Eff on Feb 24, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Good.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Didn't Buerhle work it into his contract that the White Sox....

…wear camouflage jerseys on the 4th of July, also?

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

huh?

is that possibly true?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I think...My friend who's a diehard Sox fan mentioned that

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I still think they would better appreciate the Marines if they had a not-ridiculous-looking way of paying tribute to them.

That. They could each wear a camouflaged strap-on dildo with “God Bless The Marine Corp” scribbled down the side and a little metal helmet on the top, and it would be a “tribute” to the marines, but I don’t think it would be terribly appropriate… Ditto the shitty unis. Actually, I think the unis might be worse…

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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Rumor has it...

the pitchers actually wear camouflaged garter belts under their uniforms. It does something with their hips or balance or follow-through, I dunno. Probably more psychological than anything else.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Anybody got any idea for a wedding gift?

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

cardinal tix?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That kinda rhymes with candle sticks

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

see, it works

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I still have to agree with Clemson

You can respect them by making one day a week, military get in half price or free without disrespecting the camouflage. The worst disrespecting of the camouflage was watching David Wells in that camou uni. He looked like a damn military pup tent.

I forgot to do the Unis part:

Favorite Unis:

Toronto Blue Jays Home whites in the 90s
The throwback Padres with the brown and yellow
Throwback 90’s Angels jerseys with the halos
Tigers Jerseys just because classy old school never really goes out of style
Rays home or away Jerseys because the revamp is so much better than the originals
Expos throwbacks

Worst Jerseys:
Indians Early Nineties with the form fitting trousers and the block lettering and stripes down the side.
The older Ugly Pittsburgh Pirates Yellow with black bottom combo they used to wear.
Any Cubs Uni because only they can make me want to punch a defenseless bear cub.
OT: All of the combinations of the University of Oregon’s football team – There motto should be over a thousand combinations, all of them teh suck!!
OT again: Yankees and Boston hats that are not the right combination of colors. If you are wearing an orange Yankees hat, you deserve to be pushed into oncoming traffic.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

But what if it's SOlid Orange Friday and you're a Clemson Tiger cheering for the Yankees....

wait, still applies.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm barely allowing

The green Boston or Yanks if you’re Irish, but it better be St. Patty’s day and you better be drunk. I could also make an exception for pink if you are fighting breast cancer, but I personally like to fight cancer the Russell Crowe way.

We can’t actually fight cancer, so we found a guy with cancer. Take that Cancer!!!

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

+1 for U of O football

just AWFUL. i guess they are dealing with yellow and green, which are terrible colors to begin with. but Oregon St. has orange and they seem to manage just fine.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Orange is an awesome color so obviously Oregon State would do fine.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

But, you have to love a team

whose nickname is the “Fighting Ducks.”

by CRay on Feb 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I've watched a lot of Pac-10 games being here in AZ

And I’ve never heard them referred to as the fighting ducks. Maybe they call them that in Oregon, but the name doesn’t catch on much around the Pac-10. We usually refer to them as the Ugly Ducklings. Ain’t no swans in this crowd though.

Are you sure you aren’t thinking about Anaheim and the Mighty Ducks?

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

QUACK. QUACK. QUACK. QUACK.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 24, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever you say, Mr. Duckworth

Quack quack quack quack Mr. Duckworth!

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Shows how little you folks know in AZ (joking)

Perhaps it’s just my memory from having attended U of O and lived in the state for five years, but that’s how I’ve always heard them referred to. BTW, what the heck is a “Sun Devil?”

by CRay on Feb 24, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

alright, maybe it's a new thing?

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Perhaps it's a function

of you not referring to a team by the nickname they like. Do you think Michigan fans refer to OSU as THE Ohio State University? I’d venture not, and so calling them the “fighting ducks” seems like a homer type nickname. Probably not a lot of people except Cards fans and baseball super-aficionados refer to the Cards as “the birds on the bat” or El Birdos.

Sun Devils are a stupid mascot, so I’ll not defend them, but like Oregon, they are at least relatively original. I just hated the colors. Maroon and Yellow are horrible. They should have gone Maroon and white/black, so it looked tougher. At least none of their unis look as horrible as those GAWD awful yellow ones the Ducks have. Great football team, horrible unis.

Plus they didn’t beat my Buckeyes this year.

BTW, if you are having trouble figuring out how that works for me. Dad was in the Navy, so I was born and raised in Ohio and moved out to AZ and went to school as ASU. Saw how badly Cards fans were treated at D-backs games when I went as a D-backs fan with my Cards fan friend, and fell in love with Cardinals. Very weird sports fan journey, but there it is.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I will admit that Oregon's uniforms

can look really bad. I don’t know if they try to do that (for some garish purpose) or someone actually thinks they look good. Even weirder, Oregon has taken to putting the athlete’s names on the backs of some of the uniforms (especially in basketball) in the same color as the uniforms – almost impossible to read. Anyway, RD it’s great to find another Pac-10 fan on here – but, we won’t talk about the current Pac-10 basketball year.

by CRay on Feb 24, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

the uniforms get talked about quite a bit

and that’s probably what nike intended

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That is what I was going to say

Half of my family went to U of O (the other half to Oregon St) and no one has ever said the term “fighting ducks” to me.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

didn't think it was new

maybe I just imagined the whole thing (or maybe I just used it with my friends)

by CRay on Feb 24, 2010 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't know if I've mentioned this before

But the Platypus Trophy used to go to the winner of the Ducks vs. Beavers match-up. Because, obviously, a platypus is a cross between a beaver and a duck.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

there's also this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhY2zsSSRO8

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

How dare you

green and yellow (gold) were my high school colors… And I think the A’s pull it off pretty well.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen

Green and gold are the colors of the institution that currently employs me so I have to stand up for them. (Plus, dark green jerseys with gold or even golden yellow pants ain’t half bad. Now their solid “gold” (off yellow) basketball unis on the other hand….)

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I could make a defensible argument

that Yankees and Red Sox fans should be pushed into oncoming traffic just on general principle….

" Baseball is reassuring. It makes me feel as if the world is not going to blow up." - Sharon Olds, This Sporting Life, 1987

by Futility Infielder on Feb 24, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

True

But I like to at least have a reason other than that so then when I enter into heaven some day I don’t have to just keep saying: “Well you see lord, he was elongating his R’s and talking about how Boston was going to be wicked good this year, so I had to push him in front of the bus.” It’s universally known that God is a small market team fan.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I cannot find a Webster Groves in Chicago.

What are you implying about Webster Groves?

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Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrigley is located in an upscale suburb of Chicago.

Think of dropping a baseball stadium smack in the middle of Webster Groves, without changing anything else, and then think of the nightmare it would be.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 24, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

There's no way that would ever get approved by my town.

Probably because they are Cardinals fans and therefore infinitely smarter than Cubs fans.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

how is Wrigley in a suburb?

it’s in wrigleyville as far as I can tell

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Wrigley isn't in a suburb

I know because I grew up in the suburb that borders Chicago to the north. Wrigleyville is very much a part of the city.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

It's in a neighborhood of the city...

full of douchebags with too much money, but still part of the city… the closest suburb is Evanston which is up the shore a decent bit.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Woot Evanston!

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I know I'm in the minority here

but I really like Wrigley, and I really like the immediate area. I am a big fan of the near-north bits of chicago.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:31 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I was confused about that too

since I live in the area.

And it’s not an upscale suburb. Wrigley is in the city. The neighborhood is even names after the park – Wrigleyville.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

That grew up around the park, no?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Si.

I really like Wrigley and Lincoln Park.

by Mister Eff on Feb 24, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Lincoln Park is nice

I have ran into nothing but Mini-Brauns in Wrigleyville.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, not sure what you mean

It wasn’t a vacant area; the city was, I dunno, “already there.”

Hmm. I wonder if I can find any pics of the area during construction; that’d be pretty interesting.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I believe they are called

daguerreotypes.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

well they did have photography back then

don’t be down on Matthew Brady and his crew

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It wasn't a yuppy neighborhood back then

as yuppys didn’t exist. The commercial/retail areas grew around the park organically, rather then to, say, level a bunch of dirt and throwing an ESPN Zone and fun house beyond left field.

by Mister Eff on Feb 24, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Precisely.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

gentrified

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Sir, I must protest!

Albert’s three home-run Easter happened in St. Louis. On my birthday. With me in the stands.

It was a good day.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Feb 24, 2010 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Whoah

Check this out…

Pujols had a .995 WPA that game. Holy crap.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder

What the highest WPA in a loss is for one player?

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still waiting for Nike to get its stuff together

And put out a high-quality, updated United Countries of Baseball poster.

(In other news, I just finished Snow Crash last night…time to resume my Murakami adventures with Norwegian Wood.)

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

just use that census site, it dynamically updates

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Snow Crash

is a hilarious book. I’m a big fan of Neal Stephenson.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty visionary book

Hard to believe he wrote it before the internet really exploded.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I was there

Glad someone cleared it up

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmmmmm

Regarding worst unis, if they switched the Sunday hats to a white cap with red stripes down the seams, the same red birdie, and a red bill, would those not be the best alternate hats out there (if someone feels the need to put this together I would sure buy one)?* There’s something I really like about white hats, yet no teams really wear them.

*except for maybe the Royals power blue alternate — anything powder blue is effing sweet (see: North Carolina’s home unis, San Diego Chargers alternate jerseys.)

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:21 AM EST reply actions  

except for the teams I guess

Maybe the powder blue is cute, but I associate them with teams with annoying fans: San Diego Chargers, UNC…

And they make Sproles look like a Smurf

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I like 'em

I don’t think that Chargers fans are annoying. The annoying NFL fans are any fans of an NFC East team and Packers fans.

You can make a case for UNC, but I hate Duke, so when they play it’s root for UNC or for some type of massive gorge to open up and swallow Tobacco Road.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I am shocked

that a Vikings fan would consider Packers fans annoying

by brackenthebox on Feb 24, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm sure it's vice versa for them...

BUT — Vikings fans don’t consider Bears fans annoying and that’s a longstanding rivalry as well, and both Vikings and Bears fans can’t stand Packer fans. So that kinda says something right there doesn’t it?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Dammit, I'm a Pack fan too! lol

I think Bears and Colts fans are unbearable… Nothing wrong with the Vikes. As it turns out, I’d venture to say they’re one of my more “supported” teams. If I can’t see the Packers make it out of the NFC North, I root for the Vikings.

They have a pretty good rep for taking GB’s formers. (Darren Sharper back in the day, Ryan Longwell, and Brett)

Still love to watch those 3 play.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm thinking you two can't be friends.

I’m a Colts fan. But only kind of because I don’t really follow pro football that much.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes we can....

Baseball is most important to me. And I do believe we’re supportive of the same team.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Kidding. :)

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

WE can't be friends....

….i dislike Colts fans as much as Cubs fans…

hehe

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

What about if I only like the

BALTIMORE Colts?

(actually, I still ‘kind of’ like them, but they belong in Baltimore)

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Loved when Baltimore and Indy played each other...

The Baltimore Ravens vs the Indianapolis Professional Football Team

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

There are always segments of a fanbase

that are fun to watch games with. I have plenty of friends who are Packer fans and aren’t annoying.

I don’t run into too many annoying Bears fans I guess. I think they, like Lions fans, hate their own team so much most of the time that they don’t have any energy left to hate other teams, lol.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree about Bears fans

My grandfather who got me interested in sports was a Bears fan. That was the only team I couldn’t root for with him. He wasn’t annoying but I have run into plenty who are. The main reason is that they are also die hard Cub fans. There is no such thing as a non annoying Bear/Cub fan. Can’t stand them. They talk just to talk never usually having anything to back up what they are saying. There are tons of them too where I live too. Almost reason enough to relocate.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions  

my brother is pretty cool bear/cub fan

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I suppose there could be a small minority

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Guy I live with is too.

Granted he can accept that his teams have faults… which is something most of that ilk cannot

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 25, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

the bears are a pretty mediocre franchise overall. they could be so much better though. it seems like the ownership doesn’t spend as much money as they could on the team

the cubs, well, I don’t know what to say about them. seems pretty much like a debacle

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

that said

I have got to see 2 superbowls in my lifetime with that team, and they won one of them (I think the superbowl shuffle is the main reason I became a bears fan in 4th grade)

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Someone's old...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 25, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

turned 34 on xmas eve

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean

as cool as a cub fan could be lol

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a Bears fan

I hate the Cowboys, Patriots, Colts, 49ers, etc

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm a 49er fan

Don’t care for the Cowboys, Packers and Bears/Cub fans.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah

I hate the Packers and Vikings too

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

49ers don't really bother me anymore btw

I used to get annoyed by them when they had the dynasty

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

That's why I became a fan

Joe Montana was my favorite athlete along with Ozzie, and Jordan to watch growing up.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Roger Craig is from where I grew up

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Davenport Central

I went to West

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I think my nephew went there

I went to Geneseo. yeah.

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Still have a hard time forgiving Craig

He fumbled in the NFC championship when the Niners were running out the clock. They lost because of that and the Giants got to edge out Buffalo in the Norwood SB.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

damn cardhawk this is a small world.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Geneseo

Claiming Davenport is a stretch. I know you guys work and travel here quit a bit but saying R.C. is from were you grew up is definately a stretch.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Cody did you catch that email I sent your way

I plan on trying to catch some of Shelby Miller’s games at Modern Woodman. Are you planning on doing the same?

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I probably will

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Should be fun

First time I’ve actually looked forward to watching someone play there. The biggest names I remeber coming throughtthe single A team are Mauer and Jimmy Edmonds.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I got to see bret wallace play there

it was awesome, he hit a home run and dove into the stands to catch a ball

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

There were no survivors.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:44 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Wouldn't feel good to have a walrus land on you

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

speaking of wallace

I remember a play of his that season where he threw the ball into the firstbase stands.The holliday trade was a sigh of relief for me.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 1:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes, thank god we got rid of him.

I just don’t think I could handle having a player on my team who once made a throwing error. Bullet dodged.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:51 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Mission accomplished.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Never heard anything positive about his defensive skills.

It could work out well for him going to the AL.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 1:52 AM EST up reply actions  

he looked all right on d the time I watched him play

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:53 AM EST up reply actions  

maybe I was a little harsh on judging him since he hadn't played

third in almost a year at arizona.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 1:54 AM EST up reply actions  

we still don't know how that will turn out

i’m a big fan of walrus

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 1:59 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I was going to film some of those games, but it seems unnecessary now that

his mechanics have been recorded throughout spring training. I still plan on recording stock’s swing though.
I didn’t go to a game at all last year, the last game I watched featured Wallace, Kozma, Pham, Chambers, and Richard Castillo. five pretty good prospects at the time and the score ended up being 18-0. It was a crazy game.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I went to one game last year

Not sure I knew any of the players. Seemed like a lot of latino’s I’d never heard of. Actually the last player I went to see play there was Ankiel and he DH’d that game. Don’t think he did much at the plate either.

"They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time."

by CardHawk on Feb 25, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

That's unusual.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

I went to the mulder game as well, my brother and I

managed to talk to the guy driving his limo, and he said mulder was a quiet guy(not that mulder would be all chatty with a limo driver though).

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 25, 2010 1:32 AM EST up reply actions  

I meant I grew up in the area

the QCA haha. have family in davenport though

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

i've never known an annoying Chargers fan

now Cowboys fans – that’s a whole different story

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Let's not forget

the Red Sox football, er, Patriot fans who didn’t know they had a team until Tom Brady showed up….

" Baseball is reassuring. It makes me feel as if the world is not going to blow up." - Sharon Olds, This Sporting Life, 1987

by Futility Infielder on Feb 24, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen

and just because Jerry Jones owns them now, we’re all supposed to automatically like them. Ugh, they’re still from Texas!!

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to single out UNC

Because everyone on that Tobacco Road is just so full of themselves. The funny thing is that I respect Coach K, but root like hell against Duke every year. Moreso with UNC because they were the reason they had to put in a shot clock in college games. G-D Dean Smith was the worst.

When you live in AZ, San Diego fans are the worst, second only to Cowboys fans because of the number of them, but there are some nice Cowboy fans that are former Texans, Most of the SD fans out here are asking to get slapped. Blah blah, Tomlinson is the greatest ever, and Phillips is an elite quarterback. Yeah go tell that to a Jets fan, cause I don’t care.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the reason I resent Duke so much

is yuppie kids bouncing around like ping pong balls in a puny basketball fieldhouse. Kinda the same reason I hate Kansas basketball as well.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i hate kansas basketball more than any other team in sports

i went to mizzou, so this shouldn’t be a surprise. however, i was talking with a georgia tech guy recently, and he was reminiscing about the final four in st. louis (’04?), and he was even saying how douchey all the kU basketball fans were.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

well, it's also kind of hard

to be a pompous douche when you’ve never won anything

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Win

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 24, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

haha .. good point

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll second that

Any cheer that requires 10 or more minutes of moving around quickly and exerting yourself is stupid. How am I supposed to drink my beer with these idiots jumping around beside me.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

You're blaming Dean Smith

for a shot clock that was put in, what, 30 years or something after he invented the 4 corner offense?

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm blaming him for the damn 4 corners

which after a long enough time and widespread usage, created a need for a shot clock. Also have you watched high school playoff basketball, You get the same stupid stall tactics with 6-7 minutes left in the 4th qtr.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

give a little blame to phil ford too

nobody ran it better.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And why wouldn't you?

The odds of the other team taking the ball away from you if you don’t shoot are relatively low. This type of thing happens in any sport with a clock . If you don’t like the tactic in the first place, then you’re gonna have to make it “first team to 50 wins” or something like that.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to sound like a stupid Joe Morgan

But that’s just annoying and no fun to watch. I know you do what you have to to win, but I don’t respect a team that wins 3 quarters and decides to sit the last one out. You see it all the time here in AZ. teams with 4 point leads hold the ball for 3-4 minutes until the other team realizes they mean to do that for the entire quarter. It can ruin a game that was an exciting 3 quarters.

Why not start it in the 3rd quarter? Why not the 2nd? Got a 10 point lead, just hold the ball and run out the clock.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Norm Stewart was a master, also

of using up time. So many of his wins were, like, 54-49.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

and those were some boring-ass games

back when that conference just did not play any basketball (to speak of, and kansas excluded)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Woah now...I'm a Die-Hard UNC fan, so I take mild offense...

…the dickhole fans you speak of are the bandwagoners who were around when we won in 05 and 09. A LARRRGE percentage of them have disappeared, especially with the way we’ve played this year. Nothin’ to write home about.

That said, true UNC fans (who see the team for what they are and aren’t blindly supportive of a surging team) aren’t annoying.

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by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

That's probably fair

Only because those are the type of fans you run into here in AZ. The occasional transplant, but mostly bandwagoners.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm just awkward.

…UNC, Green Bay, and St Louis….yet I was born and raised in Northeast Indiana…

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by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Just a quick question...

have you guys put Sean May’s magical elbow pad in your Hall of Fame yet? You know the one that made it legal to throw his elbow into the Illinois players chest and draw fouls on them. I’d suggest you get that thing bronzed…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't forget his butt

There’s no foul for putting Roger Powell on the floor!

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That game still pisses me off to this day...

God damn Ed Hightower…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Because I want to value your opinion in the future

I’m going to act like you didn’t say that…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Really he's consistent...

consistently calling fouls on big men… That’s all you can ask for out of a ref is to be consistent. For whatever reason our guys apparently couldn’t figure out how to do anything without getting a foul called and UNC could. Still even with that we only lost by 5 points… I miss that team. Time to start drinking whisky from the bottle…

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by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Cards getting swept in '04

followed by near perfection for Illinois in ’05 went from most awesome 6 months to almost most awesome 6 months. my dad died in Aug, ’05 so it always pissed me off he almost got a little extra joy before he left.

as far as Illinois this year, at least McCamey is turning into a good, verging on great pg. Hopefully his supporting cast will improve next year with another year and the addition of Jereme Richmond

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by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope he stays

If he does I think the team we run out next year can do some damage after we shed our bad case of freshman guard syndrome. D.J. is looking like he’s going to be one hell of a player and Brandon has shown some nice flashes this year. If we could only get a big mountain of a man like State seems to have more years than not I’d really like us to go deep next year… I guess we’ll have to settle for the twin balsa wood towers…

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by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Brandon Paul

has some SERIOUS talent. We need him to play smarter and we need some beef under the goal. Weber’s offense isn’t good with that kind of team. They need to run the floor more and focus on getting good spacing, instead of letting their bigs clog the lane all the time. Tisdale, Cole, Davis, and Griffey can all run and shoot a good 17 foot jumper. Take advantage of that and run the floor!!!

That, and this team is pretty lazy on defense. They don’t defend a ball screen very well at all. The bigs don’t jump the screen, and the guards are way to easy to pick.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 24, 2010 4:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Cole can only shoot when he's wide open.

running sounds fun, but for some reason they seem to struggle on advantage breaks.

DJ has turned up the defense since conference play, but the rest of the team still leaves a little to be desired.

Weber’s biggest problems next year will probably be the vegetarian diets in the post and splitting playing time between DJ, Paul, Richmond, Bertrand, & Head. can anyone besides McCamey handle the point? Bertrand maybe?

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by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

how many 3's did illini throw up that game?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

From the box score I found...

here it looks like 40… yeah how bout that… In fairness we did nothing but bomb threes that year. I remember multiple fast breaks where one of the three guards would bring the ball up and the other two would run to the wing behind the stripe and spot up… so really why change what was working for you.

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by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

i bring it up

because all through the tournament i preached to my nephews – precisely because of the fast breaks you mention -that illinois would never beat north carolina like that. hell, i didn’t think they were even a particularly good-shooting team, so to be doing that…

still, my recollection would’ve guessed 30, which is way too many, but 40…damn! i guess my point is that the illini deserve quite a bit of the blame themselves.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Wah they never should have made it past Arizona

The goofy big guy who screamed on wide open dunks like he did something had about three HACKS that weren’t called on Frye in the last 10 minutes if I remember right.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

That only begins to make up for 01

when Bill Walton did Luke’s game and called Lucas Johnson ‘the dirtiest player in college basketball’ with ‘his forearm shivers to the head and knees to the groin’ Zona earned their own karma for that crap…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

regardless, what a great game.

I watched that game the other day on the Big Ten Network…when Deron Williams hit that three, I still pumped my fist.

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It was so nice to have Deron take over games

I miss that…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

So fetch.

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by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Stop trying to make fetch happen!

It’s not going to happen!

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

But it's like slang, from...England.

SHUT UP REGINA!

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by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I can stick my whole hand in my mouth...

Wanna see?

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh wait, I can do better

They actually had a version of their uniform with shorts, back in 1976.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm contemplating

fashioning my softball team’s uni’s this way.
(men’s slow pitch)

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by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

They're ok...but they weren't the light, powdery blue

like the Royals jerseys are.

I own one, if that makes any difference…

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

50's, caps

white w/ red stl and red bill
classy

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Yah

I’d like to see that done with a little birdie or something though, just to mix things up.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

man down man down

PD photog Chris Lee playing hurt as Mather nails him with throw and Lee still soldiers on to make pics. #stlcard
http://twitter.com/dgoold/status/9580500015

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

don't hurt my Chris Lee!!

he makes me happy with every new gallery
Btw, dear Mr Lee, I will give you a bandaid and a vicodin if you take more pictures of Chris Carpenter

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

the worst ballpark ever

hands down was the old RFK stadium where the Nationals used to play. I can’t imagine any place on earth being a worse place to watch a baseball game.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

Then you haven't seen a game

In old Cleveland Muni. Football stadium where some seats were pretty much behind pillars, only not quaint like in Boston. Plus it was a nose-whiff away from Lake Erie so try cramming a plate of ballpark nachos in your gullet with that smell infecting your olfactory.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

This description also works well for Candlestick

minus the odor.

Truly an awful place to watch baseball.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You clearly never went to the Vet or the Metrodome.

The Metrodome is AWFUL. The sight lines are terrible and everything feels utilitarian. They have great fans, and I think their new ballpark will really display their fans in a much better setting.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

a much better FREAKING COLD setting

Man I would not want to play there in April.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Or in October, FWIW

I don’t know why they didn’t go the retractable roof route like they did in Milwaukee. I would guess it had something to do with cost or lack of space or something.

Still, my cousin sent me pictures of the park and it looks like a really nice place to watch a game.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Money

They had trouble getting any money approved, let along big money.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I have not.

I guess I’ve been lucky. but the thing about RFK was that it was FILTHY. and even though it was an open stadium (similar to old Busch) it was ridiculously stuffy. i was there in June when it was about 75 out and it was easily 95 with 98% humidity in that stadium. we actually moved UP to FURTHER away seats to get more fresh air.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

My brother used to work at FedEx in D.C.

so I went out and we went to a series of games at RFK when they were playing there. It clearly isn’t a great stadium for baseball, but it’s just not as hideous as the Vet (which I’ve been in once, awful, just AWFUL) and the Metrodome, which sucks all the life out of baseball. It feels like you’re watching a game in a dimly lit hospital hallway.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

RFK was fun

If people started stomping, it felt like the stadium was having a minor earthquake. The new park in DC is glorious though.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude....

Shea was absolutely the worst, even worse than the Vet.
:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 24, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

shea was not a pretty place, for sure

but i’d only attend cards games there, after division realignment, and was no problem sitting in box seats behind our dugout surrounded largely by other fans of the good guys, so i can’t work up much hatred of that place. actually yankee stadium was kind of the dregs, but i think i’ve enjoyed every park i’ve been to, though pnc for a cards game is pretty nice.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

The Vet was a piece of ish.

Shea was terrible too but you could always get in free after the game started with a military ID.

The Astrodome was the worst place to see a game. It literally sucked the life out of the game.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 24, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yadi's Game 7 homer doesn't rate? Meh, okay.

Though I agree that Beltran staring at Waino’s curve was an even better moment from the same game.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions  

I love the

Onion, but I think the time capsule is more Boog than Yadi.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 11:29 AM EST reply actions  

Speaking of Pujols' three homer games,

who could forget this game at Wrigley? Damn, those were good times.

by BTown Birds fan on Feb 24, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

Amen.

That game is forever the Pujols Game to me (just to stick it to the Cubs fans who always talk about the Sandberg Game).

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know

I know they have game by game data on WPA at FanGraphs, but I don’t know if you can search it or sort it to get a list like that one.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Pujols WPA

for that game was .597. I would guess there are going to be a few higher than that one.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

per the link below

it’s not even in Albert’s top 5

by brackenthebox on Feb 24, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

This list

reminds me of why I hate WPA as a stat. LOL.

It’s all in the luck of being in the right spot at the right time and coming through.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Heh - he had a WPA of 0.995 in that 3 HR Cincy game

A link given by STLRegalia in that VEB thread goes to a FanGraphs post on WPA’s over 1. Apparently eight players did it in the last decade (not counting 2009), but Albert isn’t one of them.

by BTown Birds fan on Feb 24, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I suddenly feel important...

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by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

gone like a fart in the wind...

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by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, RB. Don't like today's post. i think lists are

1. Intellectually lazy
2. Devoid of literary character
3. Empty pandering to the masses

Kidding, obviously. Although my childhood obsession begs to differ with your movie choices. And thanks for the tip on Square One’s Agave Wheat, gonna give it a whirl when I’m in town next week. Lafayette Sq,, right?

by mattyp on Feb 24, 2010 11:40 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Re: Every 1 of your lists above:

Loved watching Juaquin Andujar.
Non-Cardinal = Mariano Rivera.
The tailgating at Miller on a Sunday afternoon is amazing.
Peeing in a trough is rather Neanderthal.
I don’t mute Dan and Al. I’ve trained myself to just not listen.
David Wells v. a bus? Wells wins.
Agree with best unis, but I’d add Dodgers home. And uniform aside, the Boston “B” hat is classic.
Worst uniform: Those alternate Rockies sleeveless. They make the Tim Gunn in me convulse in agony.
Best home ball park food: Kosher Dog with onions and kraut.
What do I wish I could get at the game? Gus’s pretzel dog.
Beer at the ballpark: New Glarus Fat Squirrel.
Baseball movie: The Rookie. Not the best motion picture in the world, but I tear up every time Dennis Quaid calls his kid and tells him that he’s going to the majors…
I cannot come up with a better a moment than the final out of the 2006 World Series. Although, seeing my father-in-law be honored on the infield after the final game of the 2005 season as one of the Cardinal employees who worked every season in the Busch 2 stadium is very close to my heart.

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

by p_lampe on Feb 24, 2010 11:45 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

rec for the wells comment better use a train

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 24, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

good luck...

by the time you got halfway into his gut you’d have one heck of a predicament as seen here! I recommend a tunnel boring machine.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Cubs fans call it

original
i call it a shithole

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm a nostalgic person

but I agree. Especially about the old Yankee stadium. It was so over-crowded – the concourses and aisles were so small that I actually spent the first inning or so pondering how much smaller people must have been in the 20’s. Seriously, the aisles to get to your seat were one-way only. (and I’m not a tremendous fatty, before you ask) Took us 30 minutes to get out of the stadium due to the crowd.

by Ray Lankford on Feb 24, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah

there was a time a few years ago when there wasn’t all this bullshit nostalgia there is that you see today; it’s just got beyond a joke. To be perfectly honest, I really long for those days.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

I like Wrigley

as long as I don’t have to leave my seat.

I think they should keep Wrigley; they’re just gonna have to shut down Clark street, etc. and re-do a lot of the stadium.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

even in your seat

the wandering vendor to fan ratio is so high
it’s like watching the game through a slow moving fan

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 24, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how I feel about Wrigley

It’s not a great viewing experience, obviously. On the other hand, the park is gorgeous in a way no modern stadium has yet replicated. It’s a love/hate relationship with me.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I am aghast...

by A League of Their Own topping The Natural on any list. For Christ’s sake, The Babe was better than A League of Their Own.

by mynameistyler on Feb 24, 2010 11:52 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Hanks was awesome in that movie though

And I hate the Natural, for reasons that I’ve posted here before. Just based on my own personal experiences talking about it with other people, if you like the book, you hate the movie, because Hobbs comes off as a hero in the movie and tragic figure in the book. Leave it to Hollywood to gum up a good noir story.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

8 Men Out

THE best baseball moovie ever!

:=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 24, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Both book and movie could've been better.

But yeah – the movie is not very good.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Got to agree

A League of Their Own = ruined by continuous replay on cable. And it’s hard to take any movie with Rosie seriously.

by Ben Hurst on Feb 24, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have to argue though

That the first time I saw it, I enjoyed it more than the Natural. Repeated replay may make it annoying now, but I try to rate a movie on how I felt the first time watching it, and it was a great baseball and relationship story. Tom Hanks at his funniest. So many classic lines, that even after seeing it 50 times because of USA or TNT, I still laugh.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Jimmy Dugan

is one of the better characters in any sports movie ever.

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by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a damn fine movie.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

the movie is perfect for geena davis, who i generally don't care for.

the role is a great fit. she plays it perfectly.

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 24, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was great but

feel like every time Rosie talks it is like puncturing my eardrum with an ice pick

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 24, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a Rosie fan either

But I liked the back and forth between her and Madonna:

You think there’s a man out there that hasn’t seen your bosoms?

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The movie was great all of the way through

I liked the sibling rivalry angle a lot and loved the Kit character, not Lori Petty’s most attractive role but she nailed it

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 24, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Glenn Close is horribly miscast.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved that movie as a kid

really got me

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

"the Natural is awful"

is direct quote out of the Little Red Book.

You’re obviously a communist.

by Willie McGee's Twin on Feb 24, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope.

I’m quite the virulent anti-communist, and I think the Natural is sub-par, too.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 24, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, communism is built on Marxist contradictions

So this actually makes total sense.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

communism would have worked

if the russians had had Kim Basinger.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Feb 28, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

League of their Own

is a far greater movie than The Natural.

Again, like Tin Cup, the ridiculously overplayed ending ruined what had been a decent movie to that point.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 24, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

For The Natural or League of Their Own?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, good. I was gonna say...

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

wow

I had no idea everyone was going to be hating on The Natural today, love that movie

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, just because I feel like it:

A story about my personal memory of Albert destroying Brad Lidge’s career. You see, I wasn’t able to actually see the game live; I was in college, and was working in the library, sitting at the front desk during the game. Luckily (or as lucky as you can be while not able to see a TV in these cases), there was, really, no one in the library, and I had basically nothing to do, so I was able to fully devote my attention to watching the Gameday feed of the game. Obviously, I wasn’t very happy going into the ninth, but I remember thinking, like many of you, I’m sure, “C’mon, guys…just find some way to get Albert a chance.” Johnny Rodriguez and Mabes strike out, and the sadness grows…but then Eck, bless his gritty little heart, gets that single, and Jimmy somehow works that walk…and I am officially on the edge of my seat, trying really hard not to yell, because I’m still in a library. And I’m watching, and waiting…and the front desk phone rings. Great timing. I pick it up…and it’s one of my buddies, and I can hear other friends in the background screaming, and he’s screaming, and all I can make out is “ALBERT!!” And I officially start losing it…and then, finally, Gameday updates to show the homer (and the ball’s nearly off the screen, of course). And, to be honest, I think it might be even better this way than if I had actually watched it in real time. Well, maybe.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

I literally stopped breathing.

I couldn’t believe it actually happened. And the way Albert acted after, like he knew he was going to do it before he did. Like he could do it any time he wanted. And the way the stadium went completely silent after being so loud was incredible.
  
You know, I wouldn’t mind seeing Brad Lidge get hit by a bus…

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in a Houston bar for that game

I’m pretty sure the entire city went silent; not just the stadium

by brackenthebox on Feb 24, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The silence was tremendous

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a stadium go that quiet, that fast. (Plus, seeing Pettitte mouth OMG was priceless)

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

someone in philly may take care of that for ya.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i think that was the moment Brad Lidge

felt as if he was just hit by a bus. why do it to him twice?

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

The funny thing about the whole thing was,

I actually COULD believe it happened. At least once Albert got up. That just seemed to be the point where everyone in the baseball world realized what Cards fans had already come to know a year or two before: when Albert Pujols is in a game, anything is possible.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

It was almost expected......

How could Albert not win the game?

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He already did

By the number 5 line East bound back to St. Louis…

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

if lidge were hit by a bus

would it be appropriate for albert to deliver the eulogy?

and i had a similar feeling – looked to me like albert blamed lidge, like “this is all on you buddy. i mean, you let little david get a hit, and then walk jimmy knowing i’m on deck – you did it to yourself, mang, i’m just the conduit.”

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Pujols Eulogy

I told heem, “Mang, dont chou hang the slider, iss not a good ideea. But he didin leesten. Poor Lidge, always wid thee slider.”

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

that's really good.

i can totally hear Apu saying that.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I was in Sweden, asleep, when Albert broke Brad.

But it’s one of my favorite memories because I woke up to the most amazing email from my father describing his emotional state leading up to and following that homerun. It’s one of the most simple, joy-filled pieces of writing I’ve ever seen – I could practically hear him jumping up and down screaming. I’ll keep it forever. So my memory of that homerun (like lots of my baseball memories) is entirely linked to my Dad.

My memory of Carlos Beltran striking out is linked to jumping around and screaming like a crazy person, and having my little brother call me to say just “DUDE. That was awesome”.

by peach concrete on Feb 24, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I was on Wash U campus in the dorms

And I jumped up and ran around my floor, yelling like a madman. Outside, you could hear yells from all over the residential part of campus. The whole place was going insane. Anyone who didn’t care about baseball surely must have wondered what the hell was going on outside.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Similar story

When I was in college the football game was out of town one Saturday. It came down to the very last few seconds, we intercepted a pass in, or close to, our end zone securing the victory. I was in the basement of my girlfriend’s dorm and it sounded like the side of the boys dorm exploded when they all yelled at once.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

That was the game that taught me to never give up on a baseball game

I was living in the fraternity house at the time; one of my housemates was a Cardinals fan (from Nashville) and another was from Houston, so obviously an Astros fan. As the game went on, it became more and more apparent the Astros had it wrapped up. I had a Biochemistry midterm the next day, so in about the 7th or 8th inning, I gave up and headed downstairs for the study room. I was going along studying, when all of a sudden I hear about a minute’s worth of loud stomping above me. I assumed the Astros had won the pennant and my Astros friend was rubbing it in, and got back to studying. A little while later, I thought, “I wonder what the final score was?” and pulled out my phone. Once I checked the score, my eyes widened and I ran upstairs. The Astros fan was still just sitting in the recliner, dumbfounded. The Cardinals fan was running around like a madman. I asked what happened, and all he could say was “Pujols! Pujols!” Of course, over the next 24 hours, I got to see the shot on replay about a million times, but I still wish I had witnessed it live.

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 24, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know how many times

during cardinal games the last few years i’ve answered the questions, “who’s winning?” or “any score yet?” with a simple, “pujols.” (and never had to explain)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ichiro.

Jason Motte.
I don’t mute Dan n’ Al, because I’m a masochist. But I gotta say… Vince Coleman!
Mmm… no opinions for several… my taste is either questionable or I change my mind.
Cotton candy.
all the games I’ve attended with my family/relatives

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

vince has a bobblehead day this year

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Fastest bobblehead ever

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Your father...

Tony would like you to be second in line at the plate for dinner this season. He thinks that doing so will give you the best shot at growing up nice and strong to play with your big brothers for years to come. He also thinks you need to get over your childish obsession with batman. He doesn’t like childish pursuits.

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

ignore this post

no idea why it showed up, all the way up here.

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

2 Quibbles, RB

First, Field of Dreams is noticably absent from your movie list. I consider it my favorite baseball movie of all time (possibly one of my 10 favorite movies of all time – I always seem to get watery eyes when he plays catch with his dad) Why don’t you like it?

Second, how can you overlook the Padres’ camo uni? Something this ugly deserves mention:

by Ray Lankford on Feb 24, 2010 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Yummy....

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

he's lost weight (to prolong his career)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Best shape of his life.

Note: Above comment may contain gratuitous amounts of sarcasm.

BOYCOTT HASS AVOCADOS

by vexedtechie on Feb 24, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't know

that may have been when he was 12 or so

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That is te best uniform in baseball.

by far.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 24, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Love the list

but as much of a Cards fan as I am, I’ve gotta give Wrigley a little respect. I can easily think of three fields I’d rather not be at, and the atmosphere there on a Cards – Cubs gameday is almost unmatched. That field FEELS like baseball season, and the fact that it’s in the middle of a neighborhood is awesome.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Feb 24, 2010 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

I don't know if this counts as a "Cardinals" moment,

but I think Jack Buck’s speech at Busch after Sept. 11 was one of my favorite baseball moments of the decade.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 12:01 PM EST reply actions  

Yes.

Also: Busch Stadium singing the national anthem a capella is another favorite non-baseball baseball moment.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Feb 24, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

damn foreigners

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

remember those World War era questions to root out spies

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

d-dee why won't you tell us where you're from?

or have you and I missed it?

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I always just assumed she was like fez

nobody knows

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Ankiel's first game back

Maybe “favorite” is a stretch given the course of things afterwards, but that’s easily my most memorable regular season game.

by brackenthebox on Feb 24, 2010 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

Couldn't agree more.

I remember reading the press release that Ankiel was retiring from pitching in order to devote himself to becoming an outfielder. Then and there I remember thinking to myself how awesome it was going to be to see him just uncork a throw home from deep in right field. I remember watching his entire first game back, with the same contented conviction that something truly amazing was about to happen that I had realizing that Albert was going to bat against Lidge. I think the thing that most made that moment for me though, was the truly gleeful reaction we saw from our crabby ass manager. It is something I will always remember, that and “those” throws (Looper’s reaction included).

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

that's it

I was trying to remember. the two throws in Colorado, and Glaus standing there, selling that there wasn’t a throw coming.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

it's even better...

because he caught him a second time with almost exactly the same throw. and there was rick on his knees just grinning.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly. and the bench just exploded.

unfortunately it’s like those throws stuck in his head for the duration.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes

He got a wow my arm is pretty effin’ sweet complex… and then he airmailed yadi and hit the backstop… from centerfield!

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

maybe the problem there

was he was throwing to a catcher?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

if only...

Larue’s wife hadn’t bought him a hunting knife for his birthday that year… wait I think I’m confused!

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that's my favourite Ankiel moment

(well, two of them – i think the Taveras one was especially sweet, because of the reactions to it). Probably actually the recent Cardinals moment I’ll remember for the longest time, with the exception of the ’06 title run (and the NLCS particularly).

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm surprised that

Neither Field of Dreams nor The Natural made your list. Both were flawed films, but there was also something hauntingly beautiful about each of them. Ah well, to each his own.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

i like Fever Pitch too

was just afraid to say it out loud

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I categorically refuse to watch it.

At least until I’ve made things right for the memory of Old Busch by punching Jimmy Fallon in the face repeatedly. (Drew Barrymore gets a pass because she’s Drew Barrymore.)

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think I object

To actors who star in movies about their favorite team. Seems like that makes them impartial, and would take away from the performance.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought Fallon was a Yankees fan

I heard Sox fans were none to happy with the casting. Maybe I’m making crap up again…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

isn't affleck doing a yankees movie?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm sorry but I can't agree with you

Any movie that is staring the horribly untalented Jimmy Fallon should not rate at the top of any list unles the list is worst something. Jimmy Fallon could seriously make a top 10 list of reasons to hate the city of Boston he’s F-ing horrible. He ruined every SNL skit he was ever in, and he’s not even funny in standup/late night. Sorry to go off, but that guy is like Jason Biggs to me. Not attractive, not funny, how the F***** does he keep getting work?

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i didn't say top of any list

or that the acting was great
just said i liked it

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

except the cowbell skit even he couldn't suck the awesome from that one

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 24, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Although he tried to by laughing through the entire thing

you’d think with all the improv training the people who make that show generally have he’d have learned how to keep a straight face through the jokes…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I know he laughed through most of his skits

But at least with the cowbell skit, EVERYONE was laughing (except Ferrell and, I think, Walken)

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He was the only one I noticed

probably because I was looking for it…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

And Chris Parnell

Who I think could remain in character if a nuke went off. That man has military level bearings.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Literally,

the only thing Jimmy Fallon has ever managed to get through without laughing and fucking it up was his Neil Young singing Fresh Prince bit. Best thing he’s ever done.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, that was a little creepy it was so good.

I couldn’t believe that was Jimmy Fallon.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

+1000000

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

How that good of a book

could become that bad of a movie, I will never know.

by Mister Eff on Feb 24, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

UGH!

The biggest problem I have with Fever Pitch is that they used the same fucking name while ripping off an impeccable Nick Hornby movie and book about English soccer to turn it into a crappy movie about American baseball. So now when someone says Fever Pitch, they think of that shitty baseball movie instead of the great soccer movie the came seven years before it. BLASPHEMY!!!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The worst scene in that movie

(american) is when he’s trying not to hear what happened in the game. As D. Barrymore’s father, the appropriate reaction was to stand up and sock him one in the face. You can tell by his b*tchy face that he’d go down like a sack of potatoes. Then while he’s dazed on the ground, you tell him about the game and proceed to explain that the Red Sox suck. At least that’s how I fantasized it.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

well if everyone seems to feel so strongly about it

i should maybe stream it live and everyone can bitch in real time
wouldn’t that make for a fun thread

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually

That would make for a fun thread. Let’s make this happen!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yes, like in that Community episode where they watch all the bad movies

and make fun of them.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to go MST3K on that movie

I’ve always fancied myself the cleverl crowe type, but I know in reality I’m a lame pun-making servo type.

by RDCardsfan on Feb 24, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

That movie caught a bad rap because

it took the name of, but none of the charm of one of the greatest books written in the last twenty years

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

If by "caught a bad rap"

you mean “sucked and made me relive 2004 you jerks.”

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   3 recs

rec'd

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

That is why I won't see that movie.

Also because Jimmy Fallon annoys me and Drew Barrymore annoys me.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

its really sad because I've always loved Drew Barrymore.

and she has my name in that movie which made it even worse, because finally there was a character in a movie with my name and she was an idiot who didn’t understand baseball!

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions  

That's weird.

I don’t remember her being named IHeart in that film.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

obviously you weren't paying attention, then.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 25, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

That is entirely possible.

I get distracted very easily.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

especially while watching that piece of crap

you were probably looking for a distraction.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 25, 2010 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

That movie

was so bad I couldn’t even picture Drew Barrymore naked and just sort of shut the rest of the brain off. It’s how I often get through awful films starring attractive women, but somehow that one just kept drawing me back to full consciousness in order to torture me further.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:40 AM EST up reply actions  

It was like torturing and killing someone,

then resucitating them only to torture and kill them again. It was awful.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Field Of Dreams is fantastic.

I really didn’t like The Natural.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Natural was flawed

But it had elements of brilliance to it. That beautiful score makes the hairs on my arms stand up. And of course there’s the pirceless moment where Redford crushes the Cubs scoreboard.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh,...

found it cowtrived and predictable…
:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 24, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch it cow

That’s a piece of americana you’re talkin’ about. Don’t make me carve up a steak. >:-(

(just kidding)

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

IMO

8 Men out was a billion times better.

:=8P

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 24, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I was bored.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I loved the book

and liked certain things about the movie, but let’s face it, Redford was too old to play that role, and Glenn Close was horribly miscast. Changing the storyline to have her as a childhood sweetheart really annoyed me, too. Still, I thought Brimley and Farnsworth, and Basinger, McGavin and Duvall were all excellent.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

i could go with that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 9:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I mentioned it above

well, mentioned Wendy Peffercorn, anyway

by mattyp on Feb 24, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

We’ve been going about this all wrong. I blame myself.

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

how did that slip my mind until now?

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: anyone subscribe to Bloomberg Sports?

I don’t really care about the fantasy draft kit, but the interactivity and graphical nature of the place are right up my alley:

Free Melodi Dushane

by all4tookie on Feb 24, 2010 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

I may actually need a paper bag now.
La Russa downplayed former Cardinals Jason Isringhausen and Russ Springer as possible candidates. Springer and Isringhausen are available free agents. Springer has indicated a willingness to play a third time for the Cardinals, this time for minimal salary. Isringhausen, the Cardinals’ all-time saves leader, hopes to catch on somewhere this spring.

La Russa noted that Springer and Isringhausen get "extra credits" because of the club’s familiarity with them and what they have offered previously. "You just don’t judge it on the baseball side," La Russa said. "With other guys, you think, ‘Can they help us? Do they fit?’"

La Russa said any candidate must be willing to pitch multiple innings, a trait that made McClellan an obvious candidate to compete for a starting role. "And that’s not really what Izzy and Springer do best."

Who even considered this?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

but Izzy?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Same as everyone else;

Springer: Yes.
Izzy: A googol times, no.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

My short lists

Agree on Tudor.

Fav non-Cardinal pitcher (fav pitcher, period): Greg Maddux

Best new ballpark: Coors
Best old ballpark: Old Comiskey

Worst ballparks: Riverfront, Metrodome, Astrodome

Hit by a bus: Manny, Arod, any ’86 Met

Best uni: Cards, Yanks, Red Sox, Dodgers, Tigers
Best uni for a relatively new team: Rockies (not the black vests, though)
Worst Uni: Astros

Movies: I’ll continue to tout one that most people haven’t seen: Long Gone, made for HBO in the late 80s and available only on VHS. I keep hoping it’ll appear on DVD someday. From a Paul Hemphill book, about a minor league team in the Deep South in the ’50s, starring William Petersen and Virginia Madsen.

And I think Sugar, which came out last year, needs to be under consideration. Great movie.

Others: 61* (very underrated IMO), Bull Durham (which I like less over time), Sandlot, Eight Men Out, The Rookie. I’ve never cared for The Natural, mostly because they completely reversed the ending of the book and thus the whole point.

by Perry on Feb 24, 2010 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

Sugar is a really good movie.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

bought it the other day on amazon.

Haven’t watched it yet. If I have a boys’ night in with my flatmate at some point in the near future I’m hoping to, though.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Loved Long Gone

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

And like it even more

because Teller talks in the film, tho as his character, not as Teller.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I might have seen Long Gone on cable before...

Do they pretend a black guy is Puerto Rican or something? And doesn’t a character lose a starting gig in the majors to Stan Musial? I might be thinking of a different movie or movies.

Albert Pujols does not have "down" years. He has "~6 WAR" years.

by mattybobo on Feb 25, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan F. Ludwick

may just remove that stick

also, he may keep the hair. er, moss.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

Luddy is now on the air.

he has handegg opinions.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Luddy is going to save the Rams, now.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a good interview

nothing new, it’s fun to listen to ’wick.

here’s Luddy saying Colby’s more relaxed.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

The bit about McGwire having already analyzed Luddy's swing is nice to hear

Maybe Big Mac will fix this team’s offense after all… [/spring optimism]

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually more concerned that he'll over-manage

start hovering. maybe not Dave McKay style, but hovering nonetheless.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think so

I think he’s got the right balance of not talking too much, so that what he actually does say has more meaning. Anything is better than what we had, which was a lot of staring blankly from the dugout and talk about “aggression”.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i heartily agree with the latter

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Hal McRae

should teach poker, not hitting. Those seem to be essential tools for playing solid poker.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmmmmm...

You don’t think that Holliday’s big leg kick is a problem mechanically? I sure do, and I know The Pain Guy does, and he studies this stuff for a living. I think it will be come an issue for him later in his career.

Just because Holliday wasn’t comfortable and couldn’t execute it well doesn’t mean it was a bad idea. Just one that didn’t fit for the player. Everything I see Mac talking about falls much more in line with what the team should be doing offensively at each at-bat than anything Hal McRae has said for the last 4 years.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Point being "doing something" can result in worse than just "aggression!!@#@!"

We have no idea how good a hitting coach he’s going to be really.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

That's true

the results will show if we’ve made progress at all, because we’re the same team we were last year for the most part. I do think we have a reason to be optimistic, though, because what he’s saying seems to be making an impact with the players.

I think how Ludwick comes out of the gate will give us some idea of the “Mac effect”. In fact, I bet Azru on it.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean I like his attitude

But I don’t really know what he’s saying and no one here does and that’s what really matters.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Mostly kidding. . .

I am actually very excited about Mac’s abilities as a hitting coach:

- he seems to have a really strong grasp of the mechanics of the swing, which to me is much harder to understand and teach than the mechanics of the pitching motion, FWIW

- everything points to the fact that he has had some success (albeit of the relatively low impact sort) with Skip and Boog

All that being said, however, his one high profile miss, thanks mainly to a violation of the old ‘if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ rule, does give me some pause.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 24, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you referring to the leg kick?

If so, Holliday approached Big Mac about trying to fix it, not the other way around. They nixed it when they noticed that Holliday’s head was much stiller when he had the leg kick

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Feb 24, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

colby's leg kick looks bigger now

at least in the photo i saw

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you make your worth as a hitting coach

having successes of the “low impact” sort. I don’t think you can expect to turn everyone into Tony Batista by having him stand in a wide open stance. Don’t meddle too much, just put the focus on them doing things better in the box, get the prepared with a plan, and make minor mechanical tweaks if you think things are out of whack during a slump.

As a hitting coach, you don’t mess with guys like Albert and Holliday much, they have great talent and have a good plan when they go to the plate. You focus on guys like Ludwick, who seem to be streaky and, as O’Leary pointed out, it may have more to do with his swing mechanics than anything else. You try and calm down Boog and Skippy in the box and in between pitches and get them to focus and think about the at-bat instead of all the little things they do during and in-between the at-bat.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

beautiful words:

“He said he is focusing on remaining quieter at the plate by reducing the waggle that left his head in motion during a pitcher’s delivery.”

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Feb 24, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Who bats second

Random OT question. The P-D is discussing Rasmus and whether he fits in the order’s 2-spot. Has there ever been talk or discussion about using Molina in that position on a regular basis? Consider that he has a high OBP of .366, and has gotten much better at selecting pitches the last year or so. He even has demonstrated some deceptive speed (9 SBs last year). Could he hit #2?

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

I took yer bet, but that's not deceptive speed

that’s timing the pitcher better than anyone else (besides Albert)

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

GIDP

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Against left-handed pitching, yes, I think so

his OBP is much better against them – looks like a .390-odd OBP is possible. I don’t see him OBPing much beyond .350 against righties in any decent sample, so his slow speed probably means I’d rather have Ludwick in the 2 slot against them.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I always thought

that Freese might be an interesting choice for #2 – he’ll get good pitches to hit in front of AP and Matt, will break up the lefties in the batting order, and allow Rasmus to be in a better RBI spot

by CRay on Feb 24, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

the rest didn't post

I tried to say that I have always thought Freese would be an interesting choice for #2, He gets to hit in front of AP and Matt, breaks up the lefties, and pushes Rasmus to more of an RBI position.

by CRay on Feb 24, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Freese only has a 8-9% BB rate in AAA

that probably won’t translate to walking more than 5-6% of the time in the majors. He has a pretty regular platoon split, so maybe you’d expect that to be higher against lefties, but I’m still not convinced he’s likely to OBP much more than .330, .340 in the majors in his first year (which is only about average). I suppose you’re leveraging Yadi’s extra GIDPs and high OBP against Freese’s lower OBP and fewer (probably) GIDPs. I still like Yadi, and I’d wait for Freese to show peripherals that suggest a .350+ OBP against lefties is probably his true talent level before I’d plug him in at #2.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 5:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't like Molina, Luddy, or Freese there

Raz needs to get on base more before he can hit there.

I guess the solution is to bat Felipe Lopez there…

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Some 3B against RHP, some 2B against LHH

And anywhere else, as needed.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

jah

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I want Freese on the club, obviously

Doesn’t mean Floppy wouldn’t have value as a super-sub-starter. We could use the on-base ability in our lineup.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

and the answer is

(or should be) floppy

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 24, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

i am going to rec every post that says we should sign felipe.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

nice try

luckily for me, you have not actually said we should sign him. just that we should sacrifice babies to appease the gods. and you didn’t mention what kind of babies. i’m all for sacrificing baby scorpions.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

what do you have against baby scorpions

they don’t even have armor. they’re tiny and defenseless.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

but they grow up to be real assholes.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

touche.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i read a quote from an "executive of one of his former teams"

(i’m guessing it had to be d-backs or brewers) – said that lopez stayed out too late and didn’t always give 100% on the field (hungover?) but, that said, he’d have no problem taking him back because he was really great in the dugout helping the younger players with their games. seems we will have a pretty young team…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I wasn't trying to overhype the speed thing

But he DOES have a solid OBP. 3rd highest on the club last year (2nd, if you ignore Holliday’s mid-season appearance). Why not hit him second?

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 1:13 PM EST reply actions  

Because he leads the

world in GIDP. Do you want that in front of APu? Personally I want to see RFL in the 2 spot and Clobby @ 5.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

that too

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

but what about vs lefties?

we can’t realistically hit Colby 5th then, can we?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That's when Lugo

is in center, of course.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

this one’s for the girls here.
i still don’t get it

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

There's only one girl here who is into him.

I don’t think any of the women are.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Spants is calling it true

I’m pretty sure that the Rasmus girl is the only one that is “in” to him. Although I do like watching him patrol the outfield.

Don't ping my cheese with your bandwidth.

by RosevilleRedbird on Feb 24, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, forgot about her.

I was referring to ClemsonGirl.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

aha!

that makes 2, so plural is right

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

better to burn out than fade away?

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 24, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

she burned all her bridges?

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, it's not me.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I dunno

At least the socks are sexy

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 24, 2010 1:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Those socks are awesome.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?
Evan Lysacek: 2010 Olympic Gold Medalist ♥

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 24, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

JAIME GARCIA

on the air.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

I must say

I’m sad to see so little mention of Matty Mo in this thread. I always loved watching him pitch for the Cardinals. He was only truly dominant for a couple years, but he was a Cards starter with a knee-buckling curve before Carp and Waino had even thought about becoming Cardinals starters with knee-buckling curves.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

and, from a bit earlier, Ken Forsch was always one of my favorites. Maybe because his uni # was the same as mine (handegg, but, same # nevertheless)

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: March is made of awesome

Turner Classic Movies is going to show 25 movies through out the month to celebrate the 100th Anniversary of the birth of Japanese filmmaker Akira Kurosawa. He is my favorite director of all time.

For the full list check this out

by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 24, 2010 1:42 PM EST reply actions  

Oh wow.

’scuze me while I go program the DVR.

I never would slip you Mickey! It is merely rhinoceros horn. This makes the champagna bubble.

by The Continental on Feb 24, 2010 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my all-time fave movies

which is hardly ever on anyone’s list of fave Kurosawa films, is Kagemusha, The Shadow Warrior.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

what do you think of bunuel films?

and since everyone here knows more music than me, anybody ever heard of lee scratch perry?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions  

well, bunuel has the funny n

spanish director, maybe their orson welles – b&w era

not a film historian, but perhaps he’s a precursor to fellini, perhaps an influence to almodovar. i think you would probably enjoy him.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

also

lee scratch perry presently resides in switzerland, but i came across him here in new orleans, and in fact bought a painting depicting him. anyway, he is an old dude, jamaican, and discovered/produced bob marley. he has a lot of music out himself though.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

he pretty much invented dub reggae

which uses a 4 track reel to reel deck, he innovated like a madman. his studio was basically a grass hut in jamaica for a while

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, in his backyard

till it burnt down

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions  

I have some lee scratch perry songs

got a double disc set

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

and?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I dig it

I think I like King Tubby a bit more, or Mad Professor, but Lee Perry is like the granddaddy as far as I remember

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually studied sound in college

we had classes about this shit

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

good to hear

i was in a coffeehouse after an all-nighter and found myself intrigued by this painting on the wall. inquired, and the owner busted out an album, broke the cellophane, and popped it on the turntable. i ended up buying the painting off the wall, and have since heard him played regularly on wwoz here – before this i had never heard of the cat.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

he is quite historical in the music realm

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Lee Perry?

As in the dude who invented dancehall and then burned his studio to the ground Lee Perry? Name checked in Beastie Boys songs Lee Perry? Is that the guy you mean?

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

apparently that's the one.

you like him?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

As someone pointed out above, he basically created everything that became dub and dancehall music. As influential a producer as there’s ever been. Crazy as shit, though. He’s basically a Jamaican version of Phil Spector, come to think of it.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

nice correlate

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Grazi.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions  

what is it with genius music producers

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't limit it to just that

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

He likes to kill people???

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 25, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't know.

He is an arsonist and has been accused of various other criminal activities, though.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions  

he is pretty out there

no doubt about it

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions  

i was going to make that comparison

but i definitely don’t know enough to do it

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 12:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Looks like the Cardinals signed someone
The Cardinals signed Dominican right fielder Amauris Capellan in November for $450,000. Capellan, who is 6-foot, 190 pounds, has a plus-plus arm and is an advanced righthanded hitter for a 17-year-old, though he doesn’t project to have tremendous power.

Source

by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 24, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

sounds promising.

Always happy to see another potential prospect added to the farm…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

So

How’s his changeup?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Shelby Miller interview on

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

he's trying not to let the Duncan freak him out.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like a good kid.

all-business.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

this Feldman guy is hopped up on uppers

he acts like the house is on fire with casual sentences

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Lee Smith was my favorite Cardinal pitcher to watch

-I think the Cubs unis are the most ugly.
-The Natural is my favorite baseball movie (yes, it’s cheesy, but I have a nostalgic value for it)
-Cards have the best uniforms (duh)
-have only been to Busch II (in both its incarnations, 80s and the redone version) and the new Busch stadium, and Wrigley. I think I like the renovated Busch II the best still
-Lincecum is my favorite non-division pitcher to watch
-not sure what music is my favorite music to play over the announcers, but I do it pretty often (I have over 1000 albums)
-I wish they had more affordable beer at the stadium, and a wider more diverse selection, but that ain’t gonna happen ina million years
-I forgot what else was on the list heh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:01 PM EST reply actions  

The logo on the Cubs away pants

is quite possibly the most ricockulous crap I’ve ever seen…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I just think the whole thing looks really generic

from the primary color blue to the generic C to the dumb bear, the color scheme is red white and blue, I just find the whole thing annoying lol

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I really like their older uniforms.

And I don’t think their unis are garish or anything. They’ve stuck to a classic style for a long time. I can appreciate that.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

that's cool

I will remain very annoyed by them and their uniforms for a long time then haha

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

that and their uniforms look lame to me

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

they weren't always that

it’s mainly the primary color blue and the font of the C that bothers me the most btw

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah.

And no, they weren’t. But blue has been a part of the scheme off and on for decades.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't have an issue with the cardinal shade of blue

I like the darker shades of blue better

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

which reminds me

I wonder if there’s some kind of color psychology that happens, like red means you win more and blue means you can never win a world series, maybe they need to keep those colors lol

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

The Dodgers haven’t won in a long time, either.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I think so

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmm...

Someone should look into this.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I’ve had this idea for years, I don’t think I’ve ever brought it up til now. I wonder if there are any designer into color psychology… I know a little about it, but not very much

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Nope

Blue Jays in ‘92-’93, I think.

by Perry on Feb 24, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

the rays almost won it all too

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

and anyway, i dispute the royals won

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah.

DUH SPANTS.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

and those toronto unis were pretty terrible, IMO

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

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by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

The Yankees would disagree with this sentiment...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

He's talking about a brighter blue.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 24, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Ah I just read blue

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

There was a study done

on that very topic a couple years ago, with emphasis put on the differences in warm colour vs cool colour teams, the idea being we know warm and cool colours affect mood and energy level and the like differently; ergo, there should be some noticeable effect on teams wearing certain colours.

Honestly, I think there was a mild correlation found, but not nearly strong enough to overcome the inherent differences which already exist between the various teams. Thus, inconclusive.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions  

figured as much

I don’t think the effect would be that great, if it is it would have to be a really subliminal effect. but I guess it would explain why players do better after they leave the cubs

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

put apu all pretty in pink

he’s still gonna rake…maybe even harder.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

well

that would be a warm color so it would make sense with the hypothesis. but yeah, I think it doesn’t matter a whole lot

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 25, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

There's a decent literature on this, I believe.

Most focus on red vs all or red vs blue in particular. One centered on individual combat sports actually made it’s way into Nature. And it has since been extended to team sports such as soccer. It’s also been found in online gaming.

by brackenthebox on Feb 25, 2010 6:44 AM EST up reply actions  

what the hell is that?

it looks all shades of awesome.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Only one of the best stupid movies ever made.

Strang Brew
/I would link you to a YouTube clip, but I’m not able to at work.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

According to Pat Hughes...

the Cardinals wear black road hats…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions  

are you serious?

i have always wondered this, because their road batting helmets are SOOO dark. thought maybe i just needed a new tv.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

It's amazing the things you learn

listening to the Pat and Ron Show…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

sutter, among redlievers

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 24, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

PAC BELL/ATT

or what ever the hell it is called in San Fransisco is probably my favorite stadium thus far. Coors and Petco are pretty cool, but the SF stadium is pretty amazing right on the bay.

What happened to our team?

by und3rtovv on Feb 24, 2010 2:04 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, the park out here in SF is pretty gorgeous

I haven’t been to PNC, which is supposed to be stellar, but AT&T is definitely my favorite that I’ve been to so far.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been to both PNC and Pac Bell

both beautiful stadiums and I would go to either again, though I think I liked PNC a little better.

by CRay on Feb 24, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

PAC BELL/ATT

or what ever the hell it is called in San Fransisco is probably my favorite stadium thus far. Coors and Petco are pretty cool, but the SF stadium is pretty amazing right on the bay.

What happened to our team?

by und3rtovv on Feb 24, 2010 2:05 PM EST reply actions  

You can say that again

Of all sad words of tongue or pen; the saddest are these: 'It might have been!'

by mysterui on Feb 24, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Holliday's on

he likes the man stew. impressed with the general attitude of caring, starting pitchers rooting guys on in the dugout, bought some tvs for the place.

he likes to goof around.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:10 PM EST reply actions  

whoa there Matty, Albert went to h.s. in KC

but in any case, Albert was tossing the handegg with Yadi, and Yadi broke a tv, had to replace it. oops.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i do not like the idea of albert throwing a football.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

it's okay

he throws like a girl apparently

by Evilfrog on Feb 24, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

what evilfrog said

lego said “I guess they don’t have that in Latin America”
and I was like, whoa buddy.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

would've loved to see ank let loose on a football

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a group of guys making 100M a year

You’d think they’d throw in to buy like 100 LED TVs to hang everywhere.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions  

apparently Matt was the first guy to think of it

his big head is good for something

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be the 2nd thing I'll buy when I win the lottery

#1 is this bad boy. Then I would proceed to place as many TVs in my house as possible. #3 would be about 4000 universal remotes so I wouldn’t give a shit if I lost one.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

how big is your effin house?

i can barely lose one remote in mine, let alone 4000

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

build the house out of remotes.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

currently Bernie is marveling how big Matt Holliday is.

uhm.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

that was Colby

gah.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

or built-in remotes

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

in your brain!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

my dog eats them if I leave them on the couch....

i buy them 4 @ a time off of Ebay.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions  

No, he's an *.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

My couch, shoes,

no pants yet.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

right, like I haven't thought of that.

I literally trip over all the crap he has to chew on, but he’s a lab. They just assume they are supposed to chew on everything.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i got two

all they chew on is toys and plastic bottles – they enjoy those alot. tried that?
i do consider myself lucky though, that there’s no chewing going on in my house. also, not alot of listening to me either..

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

I have two labs too. They love water bottles, gatorade bottles, whatever put the cap on it and watch them flatten it.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

yours try to eat the plastic too?

you let mine have the bottle too long, first goes the cap, then the bottle is flat, and then they start taking it apart piece by piece. sometimes they’ll swallow that crap if you don’t watch them

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah they love it. same story – bottle, cap, flattened, de-labeled, shredded.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I will give him one and see what happens....

he absolutely destroys squeak toys, isn’t too interested in his kong, and loves to swing his rope toys, which can become dangerous for anyone near him.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

the only downside is...

if you don’t convince them that it is only ok to chew on bottles that you give them… they could end up at your parent’s house being very happy to find a 20 oz bottle of coke on the coffee table and going to town.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

this problem has been rectified though.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

teee heee

i hope your parents don’t have carpet

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

oh...that's the other thing....

if he gets bored and I’m not watching, he destroys my berber. pulls it out one strand at a time.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

that sounds... eeeevil.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

sounds like he maybe needs some exercise

training and smacking on the nose
and you sound like you have some real patience – i applaud you. i, on the other hand, yell a lot. they know what’s up then, stop for 10 seconds and continue when i’m not looking

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yes....

the training is coming along slowly, and he’s really over due a good thrashing…lol As it is staying light longer and warming up, we will be spending a lot more time working together. He just has a problem differentiating work time and play time right now.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

the berber carpet is something the oldest dog did when he was young… ended up with a bald spot on the carpet. We had the same problem differentiating play time and work time. But I started giving him about 30 minutes of attention and playing everytime I came home and then sitting on the couch with him after to calm him down. With that he started to learn when play time was and when relax time was. If he starts to go hardcore on the carpet during relax time put him in his crate (no yelling or smacking the nose… just in the crate to be quiet).

by streamman on Feb 25, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

also

try filling your kongs with a SMALL QUANTITY of peanut butter and sticking it in the fridge.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

see, that doesn't work for me

they couldn’t care less about pb. what’s whong with them?
btw, what’s a kong?

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a Kong

link. My current dogs are not chewers, have no interest in their dog toys (including the Kong), but my dalmatians and weimaraner were, and they went to town with them, especially when we stuffed them with dog biscuits.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

My Ex

absolutely hated my dog eating holes in her “things”. In all reality he was just trying to tell her that she just didn’t need wear those when she came over.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions  

“things” = undergarments

sorry crude joke!

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions  

wel...

he was fond of finding them on the floor.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

you let him watch while you play with her

instead of with him, no wonder he’d want revenge

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions  

what are you trying to say about his dog?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

nothing really

i always side with the dog

by d-dee on Feb 24, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

the door wouldn’t / couldn’t latch shut, but no he typically didn’t watch, just found the aftermath. In all fairness she was their on a regular basis, she just didn’t “live” with me for her mother’s sake.

by streamman on Feb 24, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

is an is an asshat

Having a stuttering issue today are we?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 24, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Indeed.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 25, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

indeed indeed

a missed opportunity

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 25, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

apu

went for the lambo

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 24, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Bought a massage chair for my wife in 1991, we still use it

one of the best values I’ve ever bought. In nearly 19 years of ownership, it’s never been oiled, never broken, and still gives a great massage.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 24, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

in case you missed the lovefest with Kurkjian

albert and mac

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2010/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=4940899&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

I love this

“The first day, McGwire took 15 swings, 11 of which were home runs. A few days later, he got in the box again, took roughly 20 swings and hit another 12 out of the ballpark.”

Now because I want to see him play. But because a good swing is beautiful and I wish I could do it, let alone do it years after I retired.

by sdrone on Feb 24, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

that is so freaking awesome.

I mean, seriously impressive. i’d like to see a jamie moyer-mark mcgwire match up just once this season.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

oquendo can play all the infield

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

still?

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 24, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

do you doubt the Secret Weapon

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

McGuire will get between 1-5 PAs this year

Don’t know when or where. And yes, I know the Cardinals staff all deny it. But you can smell the awesomeness wafting off this idea. My vote would be the Labor Day weekend against the Red Legs. McGuire spells Pujols at first for one night, or just pinch hits for the series.

Watching Mark hit the “Big Mac” sign would be… amazing.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

no, spelling

and apparently reality, also

mac will not be added to the roster

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 24, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I find your lack of faith disturbing

There are a number of good reasons this could happen. Is it likely? No. Is it possible? I say yes.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

would it start his clock over

for HOF?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the answer is yes

But that’s probably not why he would do it.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

just curious

because if he got in on the first ballot in five years, would he be a first-ballot HOF’er?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is one of those weird theoretical questions

Makes me think of the “Tuck Rule” in football. I’m sure there’s an answer. But my head hurts trying to figure it out.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

iirc,

It would start the clock over, in that he couldn’t go back on the ballot for 5 years, but the time he’s been on the ballot still count towards the total # of years he is eligible to be on the ballot.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 24, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions  

aha

that sounds reasonable, and is also something i was wondering, as far as a do-over on years eligible

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Interleague? DH?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Caption Contest #2

Pic

“There is literally no hope for this man to hit dingers in the show. No hope at all.”

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

he better watch his fingers

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Indiana Jones was fighting Russkies at 60

Why can’t Mark come back for a few games and hit some dingers?

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Infection?

looks like we have another candidate for “best shape of his life”

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 24, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I know I'm not supposed to put my fingers through the fence

but what are the odds of aaron miles hurting two people with foul balls.

"Baseball is like Church, many attend, few understand" - Wes Westrum

by scoot on Feb 24, 2010 10:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Two of mine...

Bus List:

1) Carlos Zambrano
2) Barry Bonds
3) Roger Clemens
4) Oliver Perez
5) Manny Ramirez

Cardinal Pitchers

1) Chris Carpenter
2) Adam Wainwright
3) Matt Morris
4) John Tudor
5) Woody Williams

Non-Cardinal Pitchers

1) Randy Johnson (afterall, you never know what he’s going to go bird hunting)
2) Mark Buerhle
3) Tim Lincecum
4) Barry Zito (but like, back in 2002 or so—that curveball was sick and I remember when he used to not have an 84 mph fastball)

by mtalken on Feb 24, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

counting fail.

I wasn’t going to do a Non-Cardinal list and then changed my mind…

by mtalken on Feb 24, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll add one for you

pedro – at his best, i never saw anyone better. and so he was my favorite to watch.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I always liked watching Daryl Kile pitch

Carp and Waino are also insanely good

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I wish the caption things would work for the filers in Jupiter

I’m guessing Boog is off-camera

who’s number 11?

Skip had a good fielding pic the other day; 27 is pretty good too.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:02 PM EST reply actions  

11 is Kinney

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 24, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

aha, now I see the beard

I was confused.

I’d be the one who can’t work out who Clark Kent resembles.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

My Additions/Lists

Cardinal Pitchers:
1. Andujar (shame he was run out of the league)
2. Bob Forsch (the cagey one, after he ran out of stuff)
3. Carp
4. Jose DeLeon (I’m a masochist, what can I say)
5. Tudor
6. in-his-prime MattyMo
7. Daryl Kile
8. Lee Smith (but more for his amble from the bullpen to the mound than anything else)

Non-Card pitchers:
1. Nolan Ryan
2. Nolan Ryan
3. Randy Johnson
4. Greg Maddux
5. Any knuckleballer

Best Parks (and I agree with all of the Baron’s – this is an addition):
1. The Jake, in Cleveland is the best of the new parks by a long shot, IMHO.
2. old Tiger Stadium
3. Kauffman in KC is a very nice place to watch a game

Worst Parks:
1. Candlestick I mentioned above
2. Enron/Minute Maid – How can you screw up the sight lines in a new Park? Too kitschy, too.

As an aside, the sushi in Petco is better than I expected. The Park is middling, to be honest.

by SouthsideCardsFan on Feb 24, 2010 3:05 PM EST reply actions  

Glad to see the reference to knuckleballers.

My non-Cardinals pitching list was going to be:
1. Randy Johnson
2. Tim Wakefield
3. Charlie Hough
4. Phil Niekro (I never saw Joe)
5. Tom Candiotti

My wife insists that I try to make room for CC Sabathia, after we watched him literally fall off the mound in a game at Coors a few years ago — you could about feel the earth tremor up in the stands — but knuckleballs just have a charm all their own.

by StanTheManFan on Feb 24, 2010 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh, and because I forgot to mention it earlier,

And since I don’t feel like checking back through what I’ve missed to see if someone mentioned it, I’ll just assume that I’m the first, and I’ll let you know, RB, that at least someone got the picture joke. I’ll play a Hungarian Rhapsody for you later (on CD…lord, I’m nowhere near good enough to play it on piano).

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Hooray!

I’m sooo happy now.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 25, 2010 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

who is that pic of in today's post?

he looks like jon stewart with my haircut

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

That would be

the immortal Franz Liszt. Get it?

"But I’m still hungry. I’ve got 10 fingers. There’s one that’s busy and I need nine more."
- Albert Pujols

by splhcb67 on Feb 24, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

now I do

didn’t know who it was though heh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

recap just in case

this is tldr

K-Mac lost 18 lbs in the offseason.

Confirming many mixtape suspicions, Lohse says Cards are now open for a new postgame DJ after Welley’s departure.

Ludwick’s gonna play it cool, be consistent, and not worry about stats.

Wainwright thought we were gonna go all the way.

Reconfirmed:

Jason motte really has no idea what hes doing on the mound (meaning when he sees video talkin to the ball or jitters, he doesnt remember it

Carp on his ink, LaRue on his hair, Skip on sharing, Stav workin’ hard: http://foxsportsmidwest.com/pages/landing_stlcardinals/?blockID=183692&feedID=5227

Frankie says even the Dodgers were avocado’d
http://foxsportsmidwest.com/pages/landing/?blockID=184052&feedID=3713

the next day was already linked

Izzy is still looking for rookies to haze; team enjoying presence of Penny’s dog and girlfriend; they’re still calling Boog “Ryno” which is wrong, so so wrong
http://foxsportsmidwest.com/pages/landing_stlcardinals/?blockID=185122&feedID=3617

Skips daily routine is to ride his mountain bike into camp, every day at 730am
Matt holliday has bought 3 new flat screens for the clubhouse down here. They replace the one ten inch tv atop jason mottes stall

Video of:
The Cat and Hawks talking about green screen graphics
Pujols and Holliday arrive at the same time
TLR
Pujols
Boog on the new hairstyle
Mac
Trever Miller, Olympics expert

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions  

Penny's companion

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

hooray bernese!

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 24, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

see, this is why I am skeptical about Boog staying off that wrist
9:20 am-CT
Brendan Ryan is a bit stir crazy as he is not participating in a hitters group. He’s itching to do something baseball related. He is shagging balls for bench coach Joe Petini who is working the fungo bat

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:31 PM EST reply actions  

I love random Boog sightings

Love him or hate him, he keeps things interesting.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Cusamano hooked up David Freese with Scott Cooper

hitting coaches – talk of t-shirts (back in the day) “Keep Your [bleepin’] Head Down”. I think it was Wade Boggs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:44 PM EST reply actions  

they are assured by Freese that he's staying out of trouble

he is, however, addicted to the cold tub
and his condo is right next to the stadium… no cars

this is hilarious to listen to

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting perspective of his growing up in St. Louis and now working with Mac

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Freese just said that Albert said

He was just here to make the team.

RIDICULOUS.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

true, but make has a different connotation

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

that darned language barrier

hahahaha well played.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions  

BP up with prospect list

Can’t say I really understand the logic that we have a bad farm when we are about to put a starter at 3B and have farmhands competing for a number 5 slot in the rotation. If you look back and count Boog, Schu, ludwick, colby, wainwright, hawksworth and throw in Holliday at the cost of Wallace that’s a pretty productive farm system. Plus you have tyler Greene, allen craig, john jay all competing for spots on the team. I’m sure I’m probably missing a few as well.
And we have a few nice draft picks this year. I’m not awed by the shelby miler’s of the world. I like that we bring people like boog and freese and hawksworth into key roles every year.

Just win

by The Duke on Feb 24, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions  

Because it's relative!

Just about every team has a projects-to-be-average MLB ready prospect and a couple decent prospects. It’s about stars and we don’t have any in the system outside of projecting our 2009 draft pick who hasn’t played pro-ball.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

We also just got done emptying the system

With a lot of guys having injury or down years in 2009. I am not worried. I thought we had a strong draft last year

by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 24, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not worried

But it’s a shit system right now in a vacuum. There’s a lot of MLB talent, that’s what matters.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

What joker said

but also, once we graduate our should-be-just-about-average MLB guys this year (Craig, Freese, Garcia, maybe Lynn), there’s not even a lot of role-player prospect depth. The mid-levels of the minors are full of players who, for one reason or another, seem unlikely to make it, and there’s just not as many guys at AAA (once those four are discounted) who look like they’re likely to come up and contribute, especially in the infield.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 25, 2010 6:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta put Jim Abbott on the Non-Cardinal List

To do what he did, at that level, is friggin’ impressive.

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Feb 24, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

[collapsing thread]

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

justice

what punishment better fits the crime of dropping that ball than being hit by it in the tallywhacker on nat’l tv. 2 kinds of serious pain. ……that was a bad day

by colinmc82 on Feb 25, 2010 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

I can't find any audio of Jason Motte talking to Burwell and that guy

and man, I do not want to listen to Burwell just to get to that interview. anyone find it?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

I'm there

I didn’t see anything with Motte’s name … maybe I missed it. I don’t want to listen to their rants in-b/t

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Quote from will carroll at BP

“A couple years ago, people were panicked about Pujols’ elbow. He was fine. Last season, he had elbow surgery that looked more major than it is—even the scar was suspicious, but everything checked out in the end”

I don’t remember rumors that pujols surgery was more than was let on last year — was there some thought that he had more major surgery?

Just win

by The Duke on Feb 24, 2010 3:58 PM EST reply actions  

Well

it was basically 50/50 that he’d need TJ surgery after this winters surgery, so I guess you could say it’s getting pretty serious.

by Mister Eff on Feb 24, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

There were observations

that the resulting scar was unusually long for a translocation, and more the size of what usually results from TJ. I don’t think anybody took them too seriously.

by StanTheManFan on Feb 24, 2010 9:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I would not have been surprised if it was TJ

the Mang heals faster than what seems humanly possible

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Feb 24, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

that's great

i’m assuming knuckleballers arrive at spring training sort of ready to go all out?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

bringin' the heat?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Notice anything about the first part of that clip?

No leg kick, in favor of the Jimmy Edmonds tap touch with the front toe.

Then he was back to the kick in live hitting.

Interesting.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 24, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

did not notice that

nice catch

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 24, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Question is...

is that what he was working with Mac on last year? Or did he add it as a timing device this spring.

I think that his problem with the switch last year was the lack of any kind of timing device with his front side to replace the leg kick and stride that was his timing device up to that point.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 25, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Very interesting.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 25, 2010 2:35 AM EST up reply actions  

USA outshooting the Swiss 32-8

0-0 score. A goal went in at about 0.1 seconds after the end of the 2nd period too.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 24, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

anybody watching the hockey?

yikes!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

finally scored, eh?

those swiss got some D

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

my inflection even sounds canadian

at least, that’s what people tell me, eh

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Parise's doing well.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 24, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

that guy really came out of no where

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

US advances

We’re that much closer to a rematch with Canada. That should make for good viewing.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought we already beat canada

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

We did

But the brackets are set up so that if Canada gets by Russia and the following round, they play the US for the gold medal. May not happen, but it would be pretty entertaining.

by JWO on Feb 24, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I might actually watch that if that happens

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 24, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

you probably won't be able to watch it live, though

stupid nbc

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

i've watched it all online

atdhe.net – gotten all kinds of different feeds: canadian, australian, etc., including some language i have no idea what it was.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

hey, you're in new orleans right?

if you don’t mind me asking, what do you do here? I’m a law student at Tulane.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

just sort of getting away for awhile

go to any tulane games? i went friday to the opener against bc but couldn’t make the sat or sun game. i know they play uno in about an hour, but i’m watching canada-russia and then trying to make a movie at the prytania.

tulane’s manager is bud’s with larussa. i’m sporting a bird on bat hat, but the bird is a pelican in a tulane shirt. some elements of their uniform are also modeled after the cardinals.

i think i get free tickets for zephyrs games. memphis is in town for two series, both in the same month, which i believe is july but i’d have to recheck the schedule. i’ll surely make one series and most likely be out of town the other.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm planning on going this friday

to the tulane-lipscomb game, but i haven’t been to any games prior to this one.

i’ve yet to go to a zephyrs game, either, but i have been out to the park. i interviewed w/ them last year, but ended up working for a minor league team in augusta, ga.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions  

been to any hornets games?

planning to go march 1 vs. spurs.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i've been to a couple this year

it’s too bad chris paul is hurt right now. he’s unbelievable to watch. i’m helping organize one of his camps this summer, so i’ll be doing promotional stuff at the arena sometime soon.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, wanted to see paul vs. parker

might see neither.

main thing was to see duncan in person though (and manu and pop). if they have a home game left with utah, will check that out too (williams, ak47, sloan).

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

i'll let you know when i go to tulane games

like i said, i’ll be there friday. maybe we’ll run into each other.

"I think he's the best hitter of all time. I think there has never been a better hitter than him. And I know I didn't see them all, but I just don't think there could be." - Adam Wainwright on The Mang

by bmorgan on Feb 24, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions  

i might go friday

but won’t know till friday

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

who does usa play next?

let’s not count our chickens…

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 24, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions