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Spring Training Storylines

I'm out of town for the next two days, so I'll be brief, but one day in we already seem to have some Spring Training storylines penciled in—

  • Four members of the St. Louis media out of five think La Russa's implicit endorsement for Kyle McClellan as the fifth starter will win out, and given the way the Schumaker story blossomed from idle speculation into Damn-the-Kennedies-full-speed-ahead. I'm not sure he won't be the best pick—he hasn't had a shoulder surgery in the last year, which vaults him ahead of Rich Hill—but I'm worried still that it's a misallocation of resources, depending on how much better they're convinced he'll be than Garcia (or Hill, if he proves intact.) Even if Jason Motte has turned into a Pitcher-Not-a-Thrower—oh, sorry, that's my next bullet point. 
  • Jason Motte. It might just because I'm watching Plan 9 from Outer Space right now, but this is what I'd imagine a Dave Duncan zombie to say, in between gurgles: "Keep it down. Good pitches are those that are down." It's more interesting to hear that he's narrowing down his breaking pitches as we speak. Neither the cutter nor the unrelated "curve/slider" seem new, but better to work on them now than last July. 
  • Mark McGwire, Mark McGwire, Mark McGwire. There's so little left to say about this that I'm sorry it's all I'll hear in national coverage about the Cardinals' spring activities. Personally, I was glad he stuck to his opinions about the way steroids changed his career—he doesn't owe a deeper bow to anyone, be it talk radio callers, ESPN analysts, or the Joe Jackson say-it-ain't-so newsboy. Of course, if dinger camp does not come off as planned I might think differently. 
  • Finally, is third base going to become a story? I hope it isn't, for my own sake—I was brought back to do the player capsules for this year's Maple Street Press annual (as well as a long piece about the moments in Cardinals history that led up to Matt Holliday taking one in the... for the team), and now that the final text is at the printers I'd hate to have another Adam Kennedy situation. But so far it seems like every St. Louis Cardinal and Memphis Redbird invited to Major League camp has his eye on the position, up to and including Undead Nick Stavinoha, who would be interesting as an emergency third baseman-left fielder-first baseman-catcher if teams had thirty-man rosters or could resist bringing seven relievers north.  
  • In the end I think it's Freese's for the duration, for the same reason McClellan might have a tough time breaking camp as a starter—Joe Mather might end up the right-handed centerfielder the Cardinals need on the bench, and Tyler Greene is the only backup shortstop who should be allowed to play shortstop, but Freese is only valuable if he's starting at third base. If Mather hits well enough to win the job, the Cardinals might not be in a position to give it to him. 

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Hey, did you guys hear that Mark McGwire actually showed up yesterday?

Also, have you heard that Tiger Woods is planning on having a press conference to discuss his problems and his future?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 18, 2010 6:08 AM EST reply actions  

I propose

we combine the two, and Tiger just has a press conference where he refuses to talk about the future.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 18, 2010 6:43 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

excellent

and he is alongside mac, right, who refuses to talk about the past – end of press conference.

brilliant, because who cares about the present!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe that would work. Cheating::cheating

andro::ambien…62::69. I guess their sordid stories really aren’t that dissimilar after all.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 8:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Just don't mix up your Ambien and Andro.

You’re either going to get a really sleepy workout or some very angry sex.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 18, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ambien: Really f'd up drug, true story

I was prescribed it for insomnia, first time I had it I took 2 on an empty stomach. Tripped balls. All the colors in the oriental carpet were swirling and melding together, the light coming from the lamp was coming out as streams of diamonds, and I thought I was at a 1920s gin party. I kinda wish I could’ve enjoyed it, but I was really just weirded out and sorta scared (having never experienced anything like that before) and I switched medications right after that.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes.

That would be crazy. Of course, I have no experience whatsoever with anything like that, so I certainly can only imagine.

I wish I were really at a gin party in the 20s.

Make way for the Homo Superior.

by the red baron on Feb 18, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

They gave my wife Ambien

when she thought she was in early labor. She wasn’t, they sent us home, she took it on the way out.

I spent the whole trip home talking her through “here’s what were’ gonna do, get undressed, get right in bed, get rest.”

Once we got home she INSISTED on getting a drink of water. I walked into the kitchen to find her calmly pouring an entire pitcher of water slowly onto the floor, holding the glass about a foot away with her other hand.

by sdrone on Feb 18, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I was joking anyway

But I find the idea of illegally buying prescriptions with my name essentially attached to any order less than appealing. Otherwise I’d have been selling adderall for beer money a long time ago (joking….ish).

To meet my required quota of baseball, apparently Viagra has supposed athletic benefits at high altitude. Wonder how many Colorado Rockies have ED?

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 18, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

How loose we talking?

(that’s what…he said?)

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 18, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

dude. how did you

do that???!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions  

DOOOD Tiger is on the Joose

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 19, 2010 3:40 AM EST up reply actions  

9:22am

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Feb 18, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Eastern Time

That’s when McGwire arrived.

Think; It's not illegal yet.

by azruavatar on Feb 18, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I wonder

if he told the media where they could go?

by swmofan on Feb 18, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

dan

your last sentence is pretty much where we’re at.

not that there’s anything wrong with that.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

There is no such thing as "season"

Just “happy” and “sad.” Joe Morgan’s voice will show you the path.

Free Melodi Dushane

by all4tookie on Feb 18, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Why did you have to bring up JM so early in the year?

We’re going to have to suffer with him for long enough as it is.

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

He'll be showing us the path of sad?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Joe Morgan IS the path of sad.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

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by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I just want to hear or watch

The crack of bat against a ball. I don’t even care if it is the Cardinals playing. I just want to watch a baseball game

by FlimtotheFlam on Feb 18, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

college baseball starts friday!!

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 18, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I can just hear the ping of aluminum.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

That sets my teeth on edge.

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

This just in:

Sports press continues to not do anything novel and just keeps following the same storylines until they receive death threats to stop.

In other news: Fire Joe Morgan still defunct.

by arch support on Feb 18, 2010 9:45 AM EST reply actions  

am increasingly worried

that the return of Rolen to the NL Central has not alleviated the Curse of Scottie.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

i'm increasingly worried that there really IS a curse.

you think someone will write a book about it?

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by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

please

we’re not cubs fans

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, but

glaus’ shoulder. freese’s car accident. mather’s wrist. derosa’s wrist. freese’s DUI.

just sayin’.

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"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah

i mean we all know
but we’re not gonna do a wikipedia page, first-person hardcover book, or three-volume box collection with foldout photos

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

we could make a lot of money, though.

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by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

come on...

sure we’d make some money, but not like big-time sabermetrician new stat money.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Just As Long...

..as there are no goats involved, we’re ok…
;=8)

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 18, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

awesome

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by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

wrong subject

I believe it should be That’s What The Goat Said

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by Solanus on Feb 18, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions  

On Jason Motte

Here’s the deal… Jason Motte is and always will be a reliever. His greatest skill is his BIG fastball. It doesn’t move very much, but it gets to where it won’t move really quickly. If he loses velocity on it, it’s no longer an asset. 94 and straight isn’t very useful. The guy doesn’t need to learn a sinker, or how to pitch, or learn to back it off or any of that. He needs to keep throwing it hard as hell and pick up something else to go with it. I mean, he’s a reliever for Pete’s sake! He’s got reasonable control, if sometimes spotty command, so if he could learn a slider/cutter/changeup/split/knuckleball/floater/shuuto/spitball and at least make hitters guess between two types of pitch and do it quickly, he’ll be fine. So that’s that…

(walks off in a huff)

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by redbirdnation8206 on Feb 18, 2010 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

. . . and the judean people's front.

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 18, 2010 11:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   2 recs

Is his hand big enough to grip a splitter?

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 18, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I've seen a couple analyses of his pitching mechanics

—Chris O’Leary’s (thepainguy, right?) and Alex Eisenberg’s over a FR, and what I seem to take away from it is that the best (only) hope he has is to mess with the hitter’s timing via a change-up. IIRC neither seemed very confident in his ability to throw a splitter, and O’Leary basically branded his slider a failed experiment.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Well Chris is right, his slider is pretty crappy

But I think he’s overreacting calling it a failure. His pitching career has not been a long one, and because of this he’s a guy I think requires a little patience. The biggest key to a cutter/slider is getting on the outer third of the ball and finishing the pitch, at least in my experience. If he can do that consistently he can probably develop something useful. His biggest weapon is his fastball… now he just needs something to make hitters guess a little bit up there. I’d like to see him go the changeup route and be a Fernando Rodney-type, but again if he wants to go the slider route I wouldn’t give up on that as of yet.

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by redbirdnation8206 on Feb 18, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

the other advantage of the change, IMO

is it gives him something to attack lefties with. So far, MLB lefties have absolutely CREAMED him (look up his splits, they’re pretty dramatic, in a small sample size, so far). I just don’t think a below-average slider is going to help him there, because of the way it’ll move into their wheelhouse, whereas a changeup just might keep them off balance a bit more.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:04 AM EST up reply actions  

size doesn't matter, jd

and don’t let sauce hear you say that – he’s crazy, you know

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Motte needs another pitch

Everyone will know what’s coming – a fastball. If he could learn some sort of off-speed pitch – a changeup, splitter, sinker, anything, that would be good.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 18, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

well, there seems to be some kind of organizational ban

on changeups, the splitter is difficult to learn and control, and requires some natural gripping dexterity that not everyone is capable of (apparently the further you can spread your fingers apart the nastier it can be), so I guess that leaves the sinker.

imagine what a TWSS it would’ve been if “fingers” had been replaced with “legs.” *imagines scenario* although i guess fingers works too

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Motte needs to develop the Eephus

Nothing like blending a 97 mph fastball with a 45 mph floater.

by JWO on Feb 18, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

with the same release point, arm action & speed

that would be…. interesting…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 18, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Ever played wiffle ball?

It’s impossible not to swing and miss at the first eephus you see. #1 it’s never a strike #2 you have to have a completely different swing plane to hit a ball coming straight down.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 18, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder...

…how many strained/torn oblique muscles that would cause for the hitters facing him. I’m imagining Ryan Braun (for some reason, he immeidately lept into this mental picture) fouling off two 95+ mph fastballs, then ripping his side apart trying to stop his swing on the 45 mph pitch that followed.

by dronemc on Feb 18, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

And still miss it?

You're the fail to my win?
"There is not a better feeling in the whole world than knowing that you are the best team in both leagues."- Bob Forsch on winning the 1982 World Series.

by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

that's a Looney Tunes clip

all three batters struck out on the same pitch

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
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by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

There's nothing like

a powerful, paralyzing, pachydermic pitch.

You're the fail to my win?
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by MaytheForschbewithyou on Feb 18, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Sufferin' succotash!

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

appreciate some classic cartoons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheY65Y8Kmc

Boog wishes he were Bugs.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

If not Looney Tunes, maybe a montage of Rick Ankiel pitching to Dick Ankiel

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Feb 19, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

The 2 Stooges?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 19, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Who would win that battle?

The hitter will swing at everything and the pitcher will be wild, but will still K alot of batters with that uncle charlie.

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by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions  

i abhor lefty-on-lefty violence

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by cardball on Feb 19, 2010 12:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Here's hoping

Kyle Farnsworth is not ever a good comp for Jason Motte.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Farnsworth's pretty much what we might see, actually

he’s looking like a similar pitcher. I just hope he can keep his HR rate down; Farnsworth’s always had a great K rate and he doesn’t walk TOO many.

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by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope Mather contends for 3rd

like he was supposed to last year. It seems to me that the Cards aren’t going to try to sign Lopez, and with virtually no backup 3B, I feel that the Cards may have to go to Mather for that.

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by zoomzoomj88 on Feb 18, 2010 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

Backup third basemen (in the same was Abraham Nunez was a "backup third baseman"):

1) Allen Craig
2) Tyler Greene
3) Julio Lugo
4) Ruben Gotay
5) Joe Mather

I think we’re okay for now. I’m pretty optimistic that Freese will work out. Nonetheless, if he does not and Brendan Ryan doesn’t quickly return from injury, maybe something will need to be done to bolster the hot corner. Right now, I’m okay with the Cardinals’ handling of third base, though.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

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by bgh on Feb 18, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed:

Question: does this “depth” at 3B mean that Mo’s comments about waiting to see what the biggest need is for their one bullet mean that we may see a signing of a pitcher? especially if 4 out of 5 are correct and McClellan is the No. 5 SP to begin the season?

If so, is it Springer? Smoltz? MacDougal? other?

Stupid Sexy Flanders!!!

by timmycardinals on Feb 18, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

We *should* see the signing of a pitcher, IMO.

I write “should” because I believe that a club can never have too much pitching. And, as the FAs go unsigned later into February, I would think that their asking prices will drop quite a bit. If you can bolster your staff at a low cost, I think that you do that, especially with the number of people we have who could play third. I’ve long thought that Smoltz was the best option of the FA pitchers because he has established that he can be an effective starter or reliever. If not Smoltz, my preference would be Kiko Calero. I would also note that signing Calero would not preclude signing an additional, cheap FA bat.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 18, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It's possible that

one of the starters develops some arm problem in ST (tho we all certainly hope not). That’s certainly the area where the Cards are potentially very good but also the area where an injury would hurt the most (IMHO). Any injury here would probably cause the Cards to run out and sign Smoltz. Still I like the idea of signing Lopez as a supersub, plus he gives us a bat on the bench that can swing left-handed. Gotay just doesn’t do much for me – too little pop in his bat.

by CRay on Feb 18, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Problem is

I don’t think lopez wants to be just a supersub. Although realistically, he could fill in at Left, 3rd, and 2nd, which would give him plenty of PAs. Maybe he just doesn’t see it that way, or maybe the Cards just don’t want him, or maybe they’re just trying to wait it out a little longer. Who knows…

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

problem for floppy

is his long term earning potential takes a major hit if he does the utility thing, regardless of cash this season. i think that is what bouros was trying to do, but wasn’t willing t sacrifice salary to do it, and flop got frustrated. in the end he may have to take a sub role, and i suspect that would be with the cards if it happens, and for less $$$ than he hoped

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by sportsman on Feb 18, 2010 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

so everything's

comin’ up Millhouse Cards? Works for me.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the thing that people don't always take into account

when they talk about “glue guys” like Robert Horry. It takes a special kind of player to realize his limitations and accept a lesser role on a good team in order to win.

If I was in Lopez’ situation, I would probably take a $1M deal with incentives for PA’s from the Cardinals for one season and then go out and proceed to tear it up while playing three positions. I don’t see how that hurts his long term earning potential — it would probably lengthen his career. A .340 wOBA player who can play 4-5 positions at an average level is worth a LOT more than that same player who can only play one position — like Orlando Hudson.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The thought of Lopez taking a $1M deal is insane

The guy was a 4.6 win player last year. His value might have come down in the market, but $1M? That would be an incredible steal.

by purple_haze on Feb 18, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

You're right, it would be

But do you think he’s getting more than Orlando Hudson got? I highly doubt it or he would have signed by now.

If we were to offer him $1M with incentives to get the deal to $3M based on 500 PA’s, and the Pirates offered him $3M guaranteed, what should he do? Teams are questioning whether he really gives a shit — and I think they probably have the right to do that given how awful he was with the Nationals.

You know what’s a good way to show you give a shit? You sign for less than market value and bust your ass for a winning team by playing all over the diamond and getting as many PA’s as you can get.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 6:00 PM EST up reply actions  

though he's only going to get a one-year deal

perhaps he’s looking for an option year or two that kicks in at some point? because i don’t think we’d be able (or willing) to do that.

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by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

He doesn’t deserve what Hudson got, in any market. Last year was a personal best for Floppy, but nobody should expect that kind of performance again. In his career, he’s only posted WAR above 2.0 twice – last year (4.6) and 2005 (4.5).

Hudson hasn’t dipped below 2.0 WAR since 2003. Between the two of them, I’d favor Hudson for the breakout in 2010. I wouldn’t want Floppy if he asked for any more than $2 mil guaranteed.

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by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions  

look what Jeff freakin' Weaver

got for nothing more than a handful of playoff appearances. Though I’ll concede the market has changed, probably due in no small part to GMs saying, “Hey, that Jeff Weaver really sucked a big one after that contract, huh?”

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

fixed

Jeff freakin’ Weaver Suppan

His contract was worse than Lohse’s. If I were a Brewers fan, I’d be furious… If I could see through the cloud of smug hovering over the home dugout.

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by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think he's a better player than Hudson at this point

I don’t even think that’s a debate, actually. He’s a better defender, he was better offensively last year, and he’s got a better health profile.

He SHOULD get a deal similar to what Hudson got. Sure, O-Dog hasn’t been below 2 WAR in any of those seasons, but he’s missed a lot of games the past three years, and he can’t play 3B. Lopez hasn’t missed many games at all in his career and he can play 3B and play it at an above average level according to UZR (admittedly, SSS).

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He's also 2 1/2 years younger.

I don’t see Hudson having a “breakout” year at the age of 32.

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by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions  

but

he clearly has a fly in his ointment

floppy seems to move around a lot, and that is not likely to be coincidence at this point

just opinion, if he takes the non-starter-fixed position gig, i believe he does hurt his long term earning potential. hard for him to do 4.6 under those circumstances

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by sportsman on Feb 18, 2010 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

the nickname certainly can't help his rep

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

FWIW

I’d be very surprised if Hudson can’t play 3B; as long as you have a decent arm, I don’t think a transition from 2B to 3B should be that complicated. I actually thought that there was a chance the Twins might give him some time there this year, though I could be wrong.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't think his arm is good enough to play over there

and he really struggles going to his left, which is required at 3B.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 19, 2010 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

2B's don't ever have to go left??

You might be right about the arm thing, though.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 22, 2010 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not arguing with you...

I’m just saying that I think the reason he’s still around:

  1. Has a lot to do with his representation. If Rick fucking Ankiel can get a deal like that after his 2009, why in the hell is Lopez still sitting out there, Scott?
  2. He overvalued himself initially as a DeRosa-type…..
  3. …physically he is, but mentally everyone thinks that he’s a quitter because of his numbers in Washington, and that’s a really hard reputation to shed.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with all this.

But I think one of the reasons Hudson’s not available today is his consistency, which also means a lot to teams looking for solid middle infield help. Sure, he’s missed a lot of games, but if I were a GM, I’d see what he was able to do with the at-bats he got. If he puts it all together this year, then it’s an added bonus.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I think people either see him as a 5th-wheel type in the IF

or a high-risk, high-reward guy. People (especially playoff contenders like the Twinkies) are still paying reasonable money for guys like Hudson who put in league-average seasons year-in, year-out.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't know much about what happened in washington

what’s your take – was getting cut a wake-up call where he said oh shit i just got cut by the frickin nats, i better get it together type of thing, or was he not sleepwalking at all but rather consciously not giving any effort? i guess that somewhat matters to me.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

iirc,

he was playing on a 50 win team, and didn’t give a shit.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

trying to find out what happened in Washington

is like that tree falling in a forest question. who was watching?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

bucky beaver?

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 18, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know...

and neither does anyone else. If I had to guess though, I’d say he was dogging it. Look how he’s played both before and afterwards.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

from what I've heard here and there as regards his attitude

I think it’s a reasonable assumption that he was dogging it in Washington, especially towards the end of his time there.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:16 AM EST up reply actions  

He lost his SS job

each time Cristian Guzman returned from injuries which might have contributed to his attitude. He went from Cincy’s all-star SS in 2005 to the Nats 2B and second choice at SS. Maybe after 2009’s success, he sees himself as a 2B now and doesn’t want to play second fiddle to a LF/2B

by ubeddie on Feb 19, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

He has publicly admitted to sucking so that he would get cut because he didn't want to play on a shitty team anymore

I can’t find the article/source anymore.

I created the first #BrendanRyan hashtag on Twitter
"She gone! Airplane time! Airplane Time!! AIRPLANE TIME." Boog

"I think those scorers must be from Mars or Venus. Or maybe they're just from that book." --Mike Shannon, 7/09/2009

by andi_k on Feb 20, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Thus, Gotay could be useful

as a pinch-hitter to lead off innings but not someone who can deliver a big hit with men on base. Useful but not what I want given the other probable members of this year’s bench. This even assumes that he would get the walks in the bigs.

And, mattyp, I agree that Lopez wouldn’t want this role, but his other options seem limited. And, one thing about playing for TLR is that he plays his bench, sometimes as we all know to extremes. So, I could Lopez getting a lot of at bats, even tho this year’s lineup seems more set than usual.

by CRay on Feb 18, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

right

this is exactly what you want from a guy pinch hitting for the pitcher, ie, just get on base!!

I may be in a rut, but at least I know where I'm going

by sportsman on Feb 18, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

I just have very little faith in Gotay

that AAA walk-tastic season just came out of nowhere, and I think it’s reasonable to question whether he can do anything like that in MLB, given he’s never done it before and has been around a while. Sure, he might be a late-ish bloomer, and he’s younger than you might think, but I think it qualifies him as “interesting”, rather than directly useful. He’s a lottery ticket, and I’d rather not see much of him this year unless he carries on in the same vain in memphis.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Free agent pitchers still on the market (and not "retired")

.
RHPs
Chad Bradford
Paul Byrd
Kiko Calero
Chad Fox
Livan Hernandez
Jason Isringhausen
Braden Looper
Mike MacDougal
Pedro Martinez
Tomo Ohka
Chan Ho Park
Jason Schmidt
John Smoltz
Russ Springer
Brett Tomko
David Weathers

LHPs
Joe Beimel
Alan Embree
Mike Hampton
Ron Mahay
Eric Milton
Jarrod Washburn

Still a fair amount of interesting names out there

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

whatever became of Jason Schmidt?

Blaine Matthew Burns: Albert Pujols' biggest fan (his first words will for sure be "Albert Pujols is RIDICULOUS")

by STLRegalia on Feb 18, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Schmidt started 4 games last year

as a Dodger, finished with a 5.60 ERA, a 1.58 WHIP, was put on the DL in early August with problems with his surgically repaired shoulder that he was trying to come back from. He was transferred to the 60-day DL later in the month, which ended his season. He’s not planning to pitch this year, and probably shouldn’t even be on that list above, since he’s already talking about retiring.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm, assuming that Livan

is still doing his make innings disappear if you’re not concerned with runs against routine?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Surprised to see Brett Tomko on there

after his nice run with the A’s. He could be somebody’s Kyle Lohse (circa 2008) this Spring.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Feb 18, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

MacDougal just got signed to a mlc by the Marlins.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd have done that, I think

possibly with incentives. He could be Motte mk2.

Grab MacDougal, sign Beimel, and go with an all-specialist bullpen; Beimel, Reyes and Miller vs lefties, MacD, Motte and Franklin against righties, Boggs as long-man/multi-innings guy.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:20 AM EST up reply actions  

i kinda like that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 19, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Gotay can play

Craig could probably play. I know that may not exactly inspire the most confidence (especially with Gotay, and I’d rather see Craig in the OF), but its something.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

F-in' Quintana.

.. that creep can roll, man

Dots Miller for HOF. 'cuz a name means everything!

by Oedipa Maas on Feb 18, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You got a date on Wednesday, baby

"But as the leadoff guy that inning, my job is to get on base and let guys drive me in." - Albert Pujols 8/20/09, base-clogger.

by lightbulb on Feb 18, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

So Mitchell and Ness has the rights to Roger Maris now

To make things easier for all of you, yes…you can buy me a 1967 Cardinals Roger Maris home uniform when they release it. In the flannel 60’s throwbacks, I prefer a size 48.

Thank you all in advance!

by Hardcore Legend on Feb 18, 2010 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

Even the pants?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched MLBN for a short bit last night

They, of course, only talked about Mac being there instead of any other Cards’ news. However, they were more taking the approach that the Cardinals hitters must be excited to start working with Mac, etc. I was pleasantly surprised that they were talking more about his possible baseball impact rather then steroids.

by ArkansasTravs on Feb 18, 2010 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

That's refreshing.

Thank you for sharing that. I don’t get the MLB Network, so I’m in the dark as to how their coverage is going this year.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 18, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

MLB Network is very pro-Cardinals

with Costas a contributor, Joe Magrane a commentator and HUGE Cardinals fan Greg Amsiger as one of their lead hosts, the Cards get tons of DAP during stuff like Hot Stove.

Things like Baseball Seasons, not so much.

Of course, there is still Matt Vasgersian on there…who must be the most awkward man in baseball.

by Hardcore Legend on Feb 18, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

awkward vasgersian

 i forgot about this fiasco from last year.
Scroll down through the comments. he apologizes.

by _pistol_ on Feb 18, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

To be fair

That guy does look like Donovan McNabb

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 18, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I watched a Burn Notice re-run last night,

and Sam did a sunglass routine (either in the show or a preview – can’t remember). The only thing missing was the “YEEEEEEAAAHHHHH!”

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

When retired ballplayers are taken aback by how idiotic what you are saying is,

you know it was wrong to say. It’s awkward to watch for me because it’s so ridiculous. Can we just stick to highlights with the occasional joke? I don’t need cutting edge humor on my MLB highlight show.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 18, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry man, it's not MY FAULT!!!

If I had some dirty pictures of someone high up where I work, you can bet your ass that we’d have MLB Network.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions  

you just need any pictures of someone high up where you work

what do you think vexedtechie is really here for?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Feb 18, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions  

someone was asking about the status of the Panda?

http://tweetphoto.com/11701613

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 12:04 PM EST reply actions  

That shirt is the colors of pandas.

"I'm gonna throw the nastiest curveball I have ever thrown...if he hits it, I'll tip my cap, but if not we're going to the Series."

--Adam Wainwright on the final pitch of the 2006 NLCS

by bgh on Feb 18, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he lost 5 pounds?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm glad there are some open competitions

Having 3B and that 5th Starter Spot in play makes for a more interesting Spring Training. It also pushes the young guys to play harder. Much more entertaining.

by JWO on Feb 18, 2010 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

dance, monkeys, dance!

…sorry. haha.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

McGwire!
La Russa said McGwire flew to Texas to work with Ludwick and Holliday.

to make the team, he knew he had to get in good with The Ryan Ludwick.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

the Cards have a psychologist?

http://stlcardinals.scout.com/2/947301.html

wonder how he did with Khalil

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Note that article also answers the question about the Cards having a strength

coach that has come up here a few times in the past couple of years.

by sdrone on Feb 18, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

did someone say something about scorching?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I have just ordered my MSP

I did not get one last year, but now I have a paying job, so I’ve basically got no choice.

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 18, 2010 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

John Mozeliak,

Zen Master.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 12:58 PM EST reply actions  

nice

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 18, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: whoa, I cut off for lunch and find stuff on CNN

Austin TX

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

probably isolated crazy dude.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

if the Utah diverted plane is unrelated,

that’s almost scarier. that just means there’s crazy in the water.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

this is how

we keep asutin weird

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 18, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

shit just got less funny
Update: Stack’s car has been found at Georgetown airport. Unconfirmed reports state that investigators found a note, indicating that there is a bomb at the airport. The Georgetown airport is now on lockdown while police search for the alleged bomb.

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 18, 2010 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

georgetown

is a very, very small airport. georgetown is about the size of, i dunno, booneville?

probably no need to worry

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 18, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I like that the second comment is tl;dr

that… kind of beats a t-shirt?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not real excited about the prospect of McClellan as 5th starter

realistically, shouldn’t Garcia be ready after a year off? I know it’s a major surgery, but it seems like a lot of people are just assuming he won’t be ready to be the 5th starter. heck, I think I’d rather have Rich Hill be the 5th starter than McClellan, I think he should stay in the ’pen

I'm gonna need a whole lot more franklins if Franklin is our closer this year

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Feb 18, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

he can't blow someone else's win...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

And Waino will get his 20 wins.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

when it all started to unwind...

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I was also there that night.

I doubt I ever forgive McClellan. Or, to a much lesser extent, TLR.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

nah, you're thinking of

Wind-up Todd Wellemeyer Doll night. That piece of crap could only get through about the first inning before it totally unwound and became useless.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

at this point in the (pre)season

who cares, give him a shot. But yeah, every year he’s seemed to wear out down the stretch as a reliever. Why the organization sees that as translating into good starter potential, I don’t know.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

See Erik's post at PAH9

he actually hasn’t; last year he sucked in (I think) July or something and then came back pretty OK in the last couple of months.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:24 AM EST up reply actions  

He can be the starter for April.

And then Jaime can step in.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

He's ready to start yes

He’s not ready for 180 innings or whatever IMO. I’d rather have John Smoltz than anyone.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 18, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap!

Is that a…a smile?

I need your discipline / I need your help / I need your discipline / You know once I start I cannot stop myself...

by mojowo11 on Feb 18, 2010 1:48 PM EST reply actions  

That's a very nice picture.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 18, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

my sig is sometimes true

http://stltoday.mycapture.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=28057229&event=946597&CategoryID=38580

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

remind me to update the delicious links on the facial hair watch.

just for scientific observation

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

there's a Tipping Pitches Watch!

here’s Frankie doing his part.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 1:57 PM EST reply actions  

who are the catchers in that pic?

Anderson & LaRue?

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

dgoold has the dirt!
  1. #Cardinals going to expand Mike Matheny’s duties within organization (read: front office role) http://bit.ly/club5L #stlcards 14 minutes ago from bit.ly
  2. McGwire said he was close enough to hop on a plane for interview w/ #Rockies; turned down chance with #Mariners to be with family. #stlcards 15 minutes ago from web
  3. McGwire had two previous offers to be hitting coach – from Colorado and Seattle. #stlcards 17 minutes ago from Tweetie

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

early conclusion: Jack Z is a monster

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Mike Matheny!

Wonder what John Mabry’s role with the organization will be this year.

Guys like Bradley are exactly why we can't have a pumpkin patch anymore.

by liam on Feb 18, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions  

What About....

BO HART!!!
:=8D

Big McLargehuge!
:=8O

by The MooCow on Feb 18, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

apprentice to secret weapon?

or at least a batboy.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

O/T: Anybody ever bought from a foreign ebay, like through the actual foreign site

I’m trying to buy a Mondaine watch:

They’re somewhat uncommon in the US, but I guess they’re pretty common in Germany and Switzerland. Anyway, they’re cheaper to buy through ebay.de (germany), even with shipping. I’m willing to take a gamble on whether they’re fakes or not, but I just want to know that paying through paypal will be safe enough (in terms of identity theft, and whether I can get my money back if they send nothing

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 2:11 PM EST reply actions  

Nonsense, it's a very nice watch.

Now you’ve got me thinking about buying one.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I've had a paypal account for 10 years.

Never had any trouble.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Feb 18, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I was able to get money back for something

that didn’t get delivered after paying with paypal and getting it through ebay. Granted it was American ebay, but it was a painless process if it comes to that.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I've bought a Seiko

from a guy based in Asia. It takes longer than you think. I used ebay.com, not ebay.de or another foreign ebay site. Just do the usual – email him with questions, check his feedback and be sure it’s real, etc. Paypal should be OK.

by sdrone on Feb 18, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I like it.

It’s simple and clean and elegant.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

experience with ebay.de

I have bought several things from the german ebay site before. 2/3 of the time it is no trouble. 1/3 of the time there are issues. Mainly this is with payment, because Germany (along with most of the world) uses bank-to-bank transfers as a standard method of payment, but this is normally very difficult to do in the US. So it is good to confirm payment options before you buy. Paypal or credit card shouldn’t be any trouble. In fact paypal is quite easy since you can pay in any major currency. Communication with the seller can also be a problem, of course, but you can usually get by on that these days.

by apack on Feb 18, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

thank you

I have paypal, confirmed address, etc so that shouldn’t be a problem. Seller is a member since 2001, over 10,000 feedback, responded to my questions and in english, so I don’t really see a problem. Gonna go ahead with it if the price stays so low.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

was it the yogurt, Colby?
Colby Rasmus, who pulled in camp today and will be working out with the other hitters this week, was asked why so many position players have reported early to spring training. Of the potential starting lineup, only Holliday, Albert Pujols and shortstop Brendan Ryan (injured) are not in camp. Said Rasmus: "I think last year left a little sour taste in people’s mouths. We could have done better than we did."

was it avocado flavored?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 3:14 PM EST reply actions  

OR...

dirty diapers suck… I got out of there as soon as I could.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 3:26 PM EST up reply actions  

If it was avacado flavored,

we know they were avacados made by Hass. That’s what the playoffs on TBS taught me last year.

Writer and editor for sprayahen.com

by Briannnn on Feb 18, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

(we're against avocados for that reason, btw)

I guess I better stick that one in the glossary.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

you remember how we hated TBS showing nonstop Frank Caliendo during the playoffs?

no Frank this time, just Hass Avocados. during the NLDS. hence.

would you like some nuts with that?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

wow.

i can’t believe i didn’t realize there were so many avocado commercials. how is that possible? i definitely remember Frank fucking Caliendo.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

remember the boycott hass avocados sig?

maybe it still exists – forgot who had it.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

vexedtechie i think

i remember. i didnt know it was VEB-related

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it was spants?

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

it's vexed

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 18, 2010 9:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i win!

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 9:49 PM EST up reply actions  

+100 internet dollars

now don’t go spending that on some fancy record player.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 18, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Boss 808 baby!!!

Cuz nothin sounds quite like the 808

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 19, 2010 3:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I would never boycott the avocado.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 10:00 PM EST up reply actions  

not sure how to take that

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i think as long as you don't get the hass ones, you're okay

i have two in my fridge right now…just don’t tell anyone…

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

reserve one to shoot

with something from your handy gun rack

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate avacados by themselves

But love them as a base flavor for guac and the like. Makes no sense.

Not afraid to nitpick

by joker24 on Feb 18, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Man, I love me some avocado toast in the a.m.

as do my kids. Just spread a 1/4 of a fresh avocado on toast, and voila!, morning protein.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

but have you ever tried it with peanut butter?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Avocados and peanut butter?

nope

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions  

avocados and peanut butter?

that sounds disgusting. obviously i was talking about peanut butter and toast!!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

of course. Who hasn’t? I mean, c’mon. Now, have you had a scabana-nut sandwich? Peanut butter, pasty white bread (think WonderBread) and bananas….yummmm.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

had a few at graceland

they were out of a machine though, so freshness was kind of an issue.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

I visited Graceland

while waiting in line for Elvis’ airplane, they were playing Elvis music as you would expect. One of the workers there was a black woman. This obviously Southern white guy walks up to her and says, “I bet you wish they’d play some of that there rap music all day ’steada this.” He then walked away with a contented smile on his face, like he had just made the folksiest, most elbow-rubbingest comment anyone had ever made. I just looked on, bewildered. The South is one odd place.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

could've been a pickup line...somehow.

who knows? i’m bewildered hourly in new orleans.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Speaking of Elvis

I bet young Elvis would have looked pretty good in a suit and cowboy boots.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

He'd look good in anything.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

not in a cubs uniform.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 18, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Very funny.

But also untrue.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

they are good in sushi.

actually had a fantastic eel roll tonight with avacodo, cucumber, and seared unagi all wrapped in a seaweed roll…

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Feb 19, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

that sounds awesome.

<3 sushi.

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

People, people, people!!!!! Hass isn't a brand!

It’s a type of avocado (the most common in the US, the one you see all the time). All the commercials were subsidized by farmers and the like (much like Beef, its what’s for dinner, Got Milk?, etc.).

Free Melodi Dushane

by all4tookie on Feb 18, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

well, well. who died and made you the avocado expert?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Sounds like the

green police are on the case… get it get it… yeah I should probably stop reaching for jokes.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldn't want to mess with those boys

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If you haven't seen some of the PSAs on youtube

give em a look. Good stuff.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Fredbird... i'm not sure that's spring-ready

http://pikchur.com/mpl

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

I first read that as Freebird

then remembered who you were and where I was and got disappointed. Stupid Fredbird ruining everything.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

so you're saying you have to double your dose?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions  

it's never too late

to come in ahead of pitch fx

/shouldn’t talk seeing as there’s about 3 posts owed…

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay.

I posted it.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 18, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

In honor of CG and AndiK's handsome baseballers

anyone know if Nomar has hung ’em up yet?
maybe snag him on a minor league deal (or a deal like Hollywood got (weeps a little))?

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 18, 2010 6:24 PM EST reply actions  

He's still available

but I don’t think he can do anything for us other than pinch hit.

by Mister Eff on Feb 18, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Free agent position players still available (and not "retired", though some are thinking about it)

.
C
Paul Bako*
Rod Barajas
Jose Molina

1B
Rich Aurilia
Hank Blalock*
Aaron Boone
Russell Branyan*
Carlos Delgado*
Nomar Garciaparra (DH)
Greg Norton#
Dmitri Young#

2B
Felipe Lopez#

3B
Joe Crede

SS
Ramon Martinez

OF
Garret Anderson*
Rocco Baldelli
Johnny Damon*
Jermaine Dye (DH)
Darin Erstad*
Jonny Gomes
Gary Sheffield

Again, some intriguiging names out there, gets your juices flowing about what could still happen with $7 mil lying around.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Russell Branyan kill Bud Selig's cat or something?

How does a guy who hit 31 homers last year not have a job yet? Why haven’t the M’s or White Sox or Giants signed him?

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

A few of these guys will likely sign by the weekend

Barajas is said to be set to sign a minor league with the Mets or Rangers, lots of rumors flying about Damon, the Tigers and a 2-year, $14 mil deal, and Branyan has two serious suitors in the Rays and Indians.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The Rangers are also talking to Jose Molina.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions  

if he killed a cat

chances are tony doesn’t want him around.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

rumor was he was wanting $30m over 3 years

that’ll probably put you off a 30-something 1B with two dodgy knees…

RELEASE THE CENTIQUID!!!!

by Felonius_Monk on Feb 19, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

and a bad back

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 19, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

barajas is going to the mets on a minor league deal iirc.

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 18, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Tony likes him some Joey Bombs. Per Goold:

Joe Mather does factor into the third base competition, La Russa said, and he is an option as a backup, right-handed-hitting center fielder. “Absolutely,” La Russa said. “This guy’s a player.”

Mather in CF? umm….

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

This has already been discussed

earlier this month (or maybe late last month?) Apparently, Mather has a fair amount of speed, is definitley considered faster than Ludwick, and might be as fast as Rasmus.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

he also might be tall enough to be a third baseman

/meme. get well soon, No-Wrist.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions  

i hear word got to him

and he was stretched 2 inches on a rack in the offseason.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

not the hair...!

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions  

the guy is a frikkin athlete

you think he’s not able to play center? (just trying to understand the “umm…”)

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

He can play CF

He’s done it in the minors and he did for a week or so in 2008. He’s not going to be a superstar defensively in CF like Rasmus, but he can field the position and not look like an embarrassment out there. I don’t know if you’ve seen him run at all, but the guy can really fly when sprinting full out.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

i'd put my money on him

in a cardinal decathlon.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Just going off FanGraphs

his time in center in ‘08 wasn’t good. In fact, it was his worst position at -1.7 UZR. He only saw 67 innings there, so I’d have to see his stats from the minors to see how much better he did at other levels.

My impression of him thus far has been that he’s talented but hasn’t caught a good break. I haven’t seen him run, but the consensus seems to be that he can succeed in center. I’d love to see that, because we need a right-handed backup there who isn’t named Ludwick.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions  

That is an extremely SSS as far as defensive metrics are concerned.

He would be backing-up Colby, but hopefully not taking all PAs against lefties. I think Mather would do fine in this role, and it achieves the main goals of keeping Ludwick and Schumaker out of CF.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

B-R says he spent even less time in center in the minors over three seasons

than he did with the big club in ‘08. So it doesn’t look like there’s a reliable sample in the stats to see how he would fare as a backup to Colby.

Link.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

he can run and throw well

and we drafted him as a ss

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Granted,

for a lot of his time in the minors, Colby was his teammate. He wasn’t going to see much time in center with Colby around. I’m all for giving the guy a shot, (it is ST after all) but I guess I’m more hesitant than others.

Heaven has brick walls and St. Peter is a red bird.

by EinFesteBusch on Feb 18, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

"This guy's a player"

That’s probably the most praise TLR can give a guy

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Feb 18, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

false

remembering his name means he’s made it.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

He gave him #7 last year......

granted they took it away this, I honestly think TLR really does like the guy.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

TLR also really liked Joe Thurston...

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but now he's #22.

That’s reserved for the scrappiest guys and biggest rednecks around!

Gallego, Mike
Green, Scarborough
Bragg, Darren
Clark, Will
Matheny, Mike
Eckstein, David
Lopez, Felipe
Thurston, Joe
Matheny, Mike
Mather, Joey Bombs

by Mister Eff on Feb 18, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Matheny was listed twice

because he is both a scrappy guy AND a redneck?

Lighten up, Francis - Sergeant Hulka

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Feb 18, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

redneck questions

can chris carpenter be a redneck, being from new hampshire? and do you have to shoot guns, and if so, does it matter what you shoot – say, skeet instead of deer?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Chris Carpenter played hockey

it’s probably more badass than redneck. it’s kinda like Steve Nash.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't own A gun

let alone many guns which would necessitate an entire rack. At least that’s what I assume.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

let's just say

LaRue does, and he lives in awe and fear of Carp.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

what am i gonna do with a GUN RACK?

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

If you're not careful

you’re gonna lose me.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

i lost you six months ago!

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Even a redneck

could look good in a $5000 suit.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks jerk

saw this picture and had to watch the episode. Should be studying, instead I was laughing about “brownie” jokes.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Improved, but not necessarily good.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I'm related to a lot of rednecks.

They look fucking awful in suits. A lot of weddings and funerals are downright embarrassing.

by Mister Eff on Feb 18, 2010 10:35 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

probably because there are redneck suit

wearers, but no redneck suit tailors. Obvious advice: If you buy a suit off the rack, get it tailored.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh yes you can.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 18, 2010 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Suuuuuure...

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 18, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You can look good in a suit if you are redneck.

I see it all the time here.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 18, 2010 10:34 PM EST up reply actions  

sure

they can, but that is like a one in a million shot.

They’ll probably fuck it up with a tin of dip in their coat pocket or a camo hat.

by Mister Eff on Feb 18, 2010 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Whoosh.

That’s the sound of this thread going over my head.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Carp's not a redneck.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Someone was asking if he was.

Then Mister Eff said he couldn’t be because he looks good in a suit. I assumed he was referring the GQ (I think) picture that has been posted several times as evidence of him looking good in a suit.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 18, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It was from Alive magazine.

And all I know is that Carp isn’t a redneck.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he is either.

Who needs affection when you can have blind hatred?

by ClemsonGirl on Feb 18, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

you better know he's not.

otherwise, WATCH OUT!

/flying luggage

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Or cowboy boots.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Some people can pull it off.

Not me, but some people.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Like who? Kenny Rogers?

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

pre- or post-surgery?

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

There are exceptions to the rule.

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

he's a cheater.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that pinetar on his hand was complete BS.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 18, 2010 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

MMM Racoon Brains

Belief that success is inevitable is as likely to hold you back as a belief that it is impossible.

by TomCat009 on Feb 19, 2010 5:32 AM EST up reply actions  

the wrist must be functioning

if so, there’s nothing to not like about him

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

# of games played in ST so far: 0

the quantity of ST commentary that is overhyped BS: 90%

let’s wait till he plays a full ST to declare him healed.

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 18, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

it might break apart again

but sounds good so far.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

do we even know if tony has seen him swing a bat yet? all he said is that he's in the equation.

that doesn’t reflect at all on his health.

"It doesn't have to be terribly prolific! Just so that it isn't childish and silly." She reflected. "I prefer stories about squalor." J.D.S.

by tom s. on Feb 18, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

i just don't think he'd be in the equation

if he wasn’t deemed (presently) healthy. that’s all i’m saying.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Does it matter?

Mike Gallego swung a bat like he had a broken wrist for his whole career and Tony still thought he was a “player”!

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 18, 2010 9:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saw the video Jaime Garcia's warmup

from Tuesday. What’s not to like about that delivery? Smoooooth.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

JAIME GARCIA

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions  

you're trying really hard to get that meme going.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 18, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

not really

that was one that caught unintentionally. I was hoping to be exclusively using it, since sometimes that’s my best contribution to a thread. haha.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 19, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

also it gets people to spell his name right

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 19, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are you yelling, buddy?

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not your buddy, guy.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

i don't think he was talking to you, pal.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not your pal, friend.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

damnit.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

you stole that from below

no fair.

i quit!

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah

Saw IHB’s reply fail after I posted.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 10:46 PM EST up reply actions  

so you are a thief AND a liar.

i suppose you’re gonna cheat next, right?

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

20 minutes later?

hmmmmm.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 18, 2010 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

if you are z'ing

through the comments…that makes complete sense. IHB’s fail would have been off the screen, buddy.

* is an Asshat
Also, Dave Concepcion.

by RiverRat on Feb 18, 2010 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

hi

"Moneyball: It's kind of like communism."

by prophetjohn on Feb 18, 2010 11:01 PM EST up reply actions  

well I was just messing around anyhow.

its not like it was a real original response I had.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he's not your pal, friend

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

epic reply fail.

i have a sad.

SIGN FELIPE LOPEZ

"I knew they were up to shenanigans." --TLR

by IHeartBoog on Feb 18, 2010 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

He's not your fiend, yug.

/fixed.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 18, 2010 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

hmm...

Forget it, spants. It's Chinatown. - tom s.

by spants on Feb 18, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

interesting

Willie Mays is the guest on the daily show

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 11:00 PM EST reply actions  

So that's the one they're replaying tonite...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

no I won't go back

spring training is here and that dark period in my life has passed.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 18, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions  

but the cable guide says "new"

damn you comcaaaaastttt!!!!! I ended up watching the original Frost/Nixon interview anyway. Nixon was a kind of a dick. And a Dick! But seriously, a dick.

by mattyp on Feb 18, 2010 11:29 PM EST up reply actions  

OT: Could someone explain to me

why men’s figure skating is the top story on WWL.com. Is that really what their target demo cares about?

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 18, 2010 11:31 PM EST reply actions  

they also have a spelling bee and an unusually fascination with fantasy

"There's a lot of things we say that don't make sense to our viewers. Okay, primarily me." ~Al Hrabosky~

by YesWeOquendo on Feb 18, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

At least the spelling bee

led to some awesome episodes of Cheap Seats.

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 19, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

The stuff those guys can do on skates is really effing impressive,

especially in the short routines, but I get bored after like three minutes of watching.

by Mister Eff on Feb 18, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

i was watching curling today

and I’ll de damned if it wasn’t gripping. Didn’t get to see the end, though. Please don’t tell me we lost to those beclog-ed dutch assholes. .

by mattyp on Feb 19, 2010 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

If by Dutch you mean Danish I have bad news...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 19, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm talking about people man

Not donuts! Come come back when you’re ready to have a serious conversation.

P.S…my bad, I really do know the difference. Danish=Hamlet, Dutch=earless artists

by mattyp on Feb 19, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

I assumed you did

since it’s hard to miss the Dutch rocking the orange…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 19, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions  

you know, mattyp

it really is.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 19, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions  

First Gold Medal for the US in the sport

in 22 years. That’s pretty important, imo. Would this be the same gripe had the Denver/Cleveland game been the top story on the WWL too? Two top 5 NBA players head to head in an OT game, both go for 40, one in his team’s win, the other puts up at triple double and plays 47 minutes. Best game in the NBA this season, bar none, yet it’s still not 22 years of gold medal drought.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 19, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

was watching KMOV

and I’ve had a long day, okay, but I just made an undignified sound at the sight of Matheny talking to Yadier. so awesome.

Lick that shoulder—you're in the doghouse now.
"But listen, and understand: more Molinas are out there..." - THT

by Yadi2Second on Feb 18, 2010 11:37 PM EST reply actions  

Field of Dreams is on CMT...

that could help with the long day…

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 19, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I've played on the field before, it's pretty small.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i mean in my softball game there were five homeruns

I had a double and a homerun.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

of course we had some rule where my homerun counted as an out.

so that sucked for me.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

well at least that means you're not mentally handicapped

if you were, they probably would’ve given you the homerun. You gotta learn to look on the bright side of life.

by mattyp on Feb 19, 2010 1:08 AM EST up reply actions  

you're so wise mattyp, tell me moar.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

ok

if you go into an alehouse you used to frequent, and tell the landlady your money’s all spent, just say “No, Nay, Never…No nay never no more,” and play the wild rover no nay never, no more.

by mattyp on Feb 19, 2010 1:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Brilliant!!

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

You should be charging for your advice, you'd make a killing.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

but they can't really take that homer away

they only thought they could – see, because now it’s back to being a homerun.

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 19, 2010 1:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn ghost players in the outfield...

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." - Bob Gibson

by ducttape16 on Feb 19, 2010 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Cheaters... all cheaters I say.

I"m looking at you shoeless joe.

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:23 AM EST up reply actions  

*356 BA

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

or are you talking about his average in the WS that year?

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

well now you've challenged wikipedia

which would make you an American of roughly average intelligence. Are you sure you’re ready for the responsibility that comes with that?

by mattyp on Feb 19, 2010 1:31 AM EST up reply actions  

no

I am the Batman .
I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal.

by CodyG on Feb 19, 2010 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

just think if he was trying

"Some days I feel like the hypotenuse in a love triangle; others as if my lucky number is pi."

by cardball on Feb 19, 2010 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

so...since the O/T thread is so bereft of activity ...

I’ll ask here: Bobby Darin: Better than Sinatra? This besotted audiophile says yes.

by mattyp on Feb 19, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions  

disagreeing here

“only the lonely” and “in the wee small hours” are the only positives that come with being rejected.

by DanUpBaby on Feb 19, 2010 4:45 AM EST up reply actions  

"The Best Is Yet to Come" ftw!

I used to use this song on occasion to end my free-form radio show in the 80’s. Also, “The Way You Look Tonight”, the upbeat version, the one without the angelic chorus.

"Have you ever thrown a ball 100 miles an hour? Everything hurts. Even your ass hurts. I see pictures of my face and say, 'Holy shit', but that's the strain you feel when you throw. I had one of those faces you look at it, man, and say, 'Man he's an ass-hole.' Could be, depends on if you pissed me off or not." - Bob Gibson

by ISawGodInGibby'sRightArm on Feb 19, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Just, no.

Can Colby round out our new MV3?

by fourstick on Feb 19, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

1,621,074 (!!)

good lord. I was excited just to break 50K.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he would drive down the street in his El Dorado... -the modern lovers

by SleepyCA on Feb 19, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions  

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